The Daily Zeitgeist - Drake > Beatles? Sacha Baron Cohen: Enemy Of The State 7.11.18
Episode Date: July 11, 2018In episode 187, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Alex Schmidt to discuss Sacha Baron Cohen's new show with victims like Sarah Palin, different ways you can die in a heatwave, how Fox New's Kimber...ly Guilfoyle's relationship with Trump Jr. is a conflict of interest, Trump attempting to blow up NATO, plus his behavior resembling that of a cult leader, how US capitalism hurt Haiti, world cupdate, Johnny Depp attacking crew members on the set of his new movie, Drake breaking Beatles records, and more! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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I've always been curious what, like, does Dick Bandit mean he goes around stealing dicks?
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Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the host of the Cracked Podcast,
one of the funniest dudes out here, Mr. Alex Schmick, a.k.a. Too Nice Shakur.
Got that hug life tatted on my chest.
Hug life?
Man, I was about to say I didn't have a musical intro, and I guess I do.
There you go.
Oh, it's brilliant.
Hey, man.
It's good to have you.
No, thank you for having me.
It's great.
Yeah.
How have you been?
I am good.
I traveled recently to Barbados, which was very, very nice, very exciting.
Very cool.
And yeah, otherwise, just enjoying the time.
Is that where Rihanna's from?
It is, yes.
Yes.
That's how I know of it.
I've never heard of it.
Their airport has welcome banners of famous Barbadians, and she's one of the three.
Oh, nice.
Welcome to Barbados.
Who else do we have?
Who else do we have?
Who else do we have?
Brianna.
Cricketer and horse jockey.
Okay.
All right.
So she's in good company.
Yeah.
Damn.
Well, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment, but first we like
to tell our listeners what they're in store for.
We're going to talk about the hottest story on the right,
which is
Sacha Baron Cohen's at it again, guys.
Beware. Look out.
We're going to talk about
the fact that Kimberly Guilfoyle
of Fox News is dating
DJT Jr.
Is that a conflict of interest?
At this point?
I can't say that with a straight face almost said
it with a straight face but uh and then we're going to talk about all the weird ways that heat
can kill you uh we're going to talk about how the president tried to blow nato up this morning
we're going to talk about whether donald trump is a cult leader technically uh we're also going to
talk about haiti yeah and just all the ways that the Western
world has fucked Haiti. We're going to talk World Cup date. We're going to talk about how a sad
turtle had his feeding time interrupted. We're going to talk about Johnny Depp punching a crew
member while shit-faced on set. Drake breaking Beatles records.
We might check in with our millennial beat.
We got a lot to cover today, guys.
But first up, Alex, we like to ask our guest,
what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are?
My most recent thing is The Office Silent Streak.
I just finally caught up with A Quiet Place,
which is as good as everyone says.
It's really a great movie. And then I was reminded that there's a cold open on The Office where they
have a silent streak going in The Office. And so I watched that clip. It was great. Really good.
Who broke it? It was Kevin broke it because he ate a candy bar.
And goes, that's good. Yeah. They were like, you don't have to say that every time you take a bite.
And he was like, I totally do. And then he takes a bite and does it again immediately.
And it's great.
Yeah, yeah.
Just an incidental silent streak.
Like, not everybody knows about it, but they're just like, yeah, nobody's talking today.
No, they're timing it.
No, they all knew, yeah.
Oh, they're timing it.
Everybody's on board.
And just can't resist himself.
Yeah, yeah.
And the interview chair, Jim, is writing notes just saying, we're on a silent streak for 15 minutes and we're going.
And I had just watched him save his family, you know?
It was great.
Seriously, John Krasinski.
What is something, maybe that's where he got the idea for the movie.
Wasn't it written by him, too?
It sort of feels that way.
Holy shit.
He co-wrote it.
Because my girlfriend saw the movie at the Alamo Drafthouse
where they have fun things playing beforehand that are custom made by the staff.
And so they played that clip.
Oh, really?
And so she was like, you should watch this clip too because it's just like a fun thing
for men.
And does a guy ruin?
Yeah.
Does a guy get killed by being like, oh, this is good.
This is good.
And the aliens come and eat the whole family.
That's how Emily Blunt talks in the film.
Yeah.
Oh, that's good.
Our kids are in danger.
What's something you think is overrated, Alex?
I love baseball, and I think the seventh inning stretch is overrated, and we should eliminate it.
And I think we should do it because baseball, in the community of the sport, there's kind of a crisis going on where people running it keep saying they need to shorten the games.
And so they keep pitching these crazy things like, what if extra innings starts with a guy on second and one out?
Like there's some kind of power up somebody activated or something.
Right.
And then in the meantime, we have like celebrities drunkenly singing for 10 minutes at Wrigley Field.
We could cut that out.
Let's just eliminate that.
And then we keep the whole baseball game.
It's great.
But I love the seventh inning stretch.
I like taking me out to the ballgame.
Yeah.
That's the only time I – sometimes games are so boring, that's the only time I will engage.
Like where it drums up
like, here we go!
Take me out to...
Yeah, I'm that drunk at a game.
I guess not everybody views trips to
Dodger Stadium as an audition
for the music industry.
Right, right. I look around. I take a quick
scan. It blows around. You blow a tone.
A pitch pipe. And I'm like, the organist fucked me again.
I said, be fun.
Just found the sixth putting together a drum kit really quickly.
Yeah, just really quick.
Hey, man, you a guitar tech?
All right, forget it, forget it.
Can you just do the drop D?
Whatever.
Yeah.
It is funny, though, that baseball would have a long break built into it.
Already, right?
At all, yeah. Baseball is a long break. It it. Already, right? At all, yeah.
Baseball is a long break.
It's people standing around for the most part.
And then, yeah, that's about it.
It's one of the few professional sports
where cardiovascular fitness is not that big of a deal.
No.
Yeah.
Like pitchers run and it's purely for leg strength.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A guy once pitched a perfect game shit-faced.
So, yeah. Yeah, America. It's great. America. Yeah. A guy once pitched a perfect game shit-faced. So, yeah.
Yeah.
America.
It's great.
America is great.
What is something you think is underrated?
I think deleting the Twitter app is way underrated.
I think use Twitter, keep doing it, but eliminate it from your phone.
It's very distracting.
It's very hard to, like, do anything or function.
Like, keep it a desktop thing.
Yeah.
Keep it a desktop thing.
Like, compartmentalize your use of the service.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's great.
What if you just have, like, a fire take out in the wild?
And your ego can't rest until it gets that sweet, sweet validation of life.
Do you have to write it down on some leaves or something?
In your poo?
What do you do?
Yeah, I mean, legally you can steal a computer at that point.
Ah, yeah.
The theft is a lie.
That's true.
I've got a fire take.
Get the fuck out my way yeah citizens arrest
wait what i'm commentarying this this car um yeah i think about that a lot too because uh yesterday
i got home and i was looking at twitter and i put it down to go start laundry and then i thought of
something to tweet and i picked it back up and then i got pulled back in into just scrolling
and i was like oh yeah because prior to this show I wasn't really active on Twitter because I didn't really like my
other work I didn't really have time to tweet but now that I'm more like interactive with social
media for sure I'm it's starting to like I'm starting to get that thing where I'm like oh
shit yeah this is really a distraction yeah I mean in a cesspool before I do anything, I ask myself, what would Twitter think?
And, you know, like parenting anything.
Yeah.
Would this be good for some likes?
If you look at your drafts, it's all surveys.
You're about to do polls that you're about to tweet out.
What would Twitter think of this?
Finally, Alex, what is a myth?
What's something people think is true that you know to be false?
So I heard a prior episode of this show with a wonderful guest named Soren Bui, who is
a great fella.
Really, really like him.
Oh, that clown.
But he is not handsome.
Enough with the myth that Soren is handsome.
No, just joking.
Well, so he's wrong about breakfast.
Breakfast is great.
All right.
It's fantastic.
In your face, Soren.
Wait, what he said?
Breakfast wasn't great?
He said it was not the most important meal of the day.
It's overrated.
It may not be like in terms of like your nutrition,
but like in terms of what a breakfast can be,
those foods are A1 number one top shelf foods for me.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Eggs, love them.
I was going to, eggs is the best.
Corned beef hash and eggs is one of my favorite gross truck stop breakfast things.
Oh, yeah.
Corned beef and hash.
Corned beef hash and hash corned beef
hash yeah i love it it's delicious especially like i go to bob's big boy the old like the old
one in burbank and it just tastes like dog food but i love it it's like that dog food like that
shit yeah you just ruined corned beef i for whatever reason i'm like yeah because there
i don't know when i was a kid i had a fascination with dog food. I thought it would always taste good when I would try it. It's never good.
No. Apparently just for dogs.
Well, I had cakes for breakfast this
morning. I had pancakes, but I
like to remind myself I was just eating cake,
and I'm fine with that. They were delicious.
You made pancakes?
I did not personally make pancakes,
but my son loves pancakes, so
my wife made pancakes.
In fun shapes for him?
With bananas.
He doesn't need the fun shapes.
He just gets in there.
Oh, he's not here to fuck spiders, am I?
Yeah, exactly.
That is a saying among the Australians.
Yeah, that, shout out to, I forget who it was on Twitter, who was like, you might want
to know that we're not here to fuck spiders is a commonly used phrase in Australia.
Now, some people might weigh in and be like, this dude just lied to you.
But I love it nonetheless.
Like, we're not here to fuck around.
They say it now.
The Zeitgang says it at least.
I'm glad you repeated it,
because when you said it the first time,
it ran together in a way in my head,
where I was like, it's something about spiders.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Yeah, right.
We're not here to fuck spiders.
So true. Yeah. We're not here to fuck spiders. So true.
Yeah.
We're not here.
I've been saying that forever.
It sounds like also like a good environmental advocacy group who's like, you know, we're not here to fuck spiders.
Right.
We're here to save the planet.
All right.
Let's get into the stories of the day.
Let's get into the stories of the day.
Right now, still at the top of the Drudge Report front page is just this panic.
Panic.
Over the fact that Sacha Baron Cohen has a show coming out.
Yes. And the right is triggered.
They're going full snowflake on this one.
Panic at the Reichstag.
Yeah.
They are going full snowflake on this one.
Panic at the Reichstag.
Yeah.
It's Sacha Baron Cohen pretended to be a wounded vet for interview.
Tell sick CBS Showtime to donate proceeds.
I guess they're talking about Palin.
List of victims grows.
CBS shocks.
Sacha Baron Cohen mocks disabled vets.
Comedy prank show spirals out of control.
And when you click through to any of these stories,
like they're just completely off base.
He's just, Matt Drudge, I think,
either he got caught in a Sacha Baron Cohen interview or he's just really scared of being caught
in one of those.
Because they went after most people,
like big names on the right and small names.
Yeah.
And on the left, like Bernie.
Yeah, I think Bernie got caught.
He showed up at the Women's March
and did something silly.
But yeah, this is apparently a very tender spot for the right.
You know why?
It's because that culture war thing where they like on the right, there's such a lack of creativity and empathy that they couldn't possibly come up with content like this.
And I think that, you know, the whole thing with like, we need our own Saturday Night Live.
Right.
with content like this.
And I think that,
you know,
the whole thing with like,
we need our own Saturday Night Live.
Right.
Like when they see shit like this,
they're like,
God,
what if we could do that to Joe Biden
and get Hillary to admit
she's a Russia,
you're a fuck.
Yeah.
And also,
fucking miss me with this like,
oh,
how dare they,
you know,
disrespect veterans
when your president is out here
doing that constantly and you don't have shit to say?
Right.
Yeah.
It was one of the drudge right above it was one of the bullet points list of victims grows.
Yes.
Victims.
Holy shit.
There's so many things with victims right now.
Are you kidding me?
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
The only victim is democracy. So the focus, because the most detail that we've gotten is from Sarah Palin, because she's just pissed, is from this interview where he posed as a veteran, a disabled veteran, and interviewed her.
We don't know the content of the interview.
But it's weird because the angriest part of her retelling of the story is that after the interview,
they dropped her off at the wrong airport.
She's like, they did that on purpose.
They knew I wouldn't be able to get a flight out.
It's like, what?
No, they didn't.
It's like when you read an angry Yelp review
and it has nothing to do with anything
and then you're like, oh, this is what happened.
You fucked up as a parent on your birthday
and the bakery didn't have the cake you tried to panic buy.
Therefore, they're a shitty bakery.
Whereas this was like, I missed my flight.
Right.
Yeah, you got that.
It doesn't necessarily sound like she knows it was Sasha Baron Cohen or anything.
She's just mad about this other thing.
Right, right.
Well, what was the cool nickname she came up with him?
Oh, yeah.
She said, here is my challenge, shallow Sasha boy.
And that was like written and you know what why isn't msnbc writing about this how dare she say something like that shallow sasha boy sasha boy oh my goodness um that legitimately clutched
it sounds like his next character yeah shallow sasha boy yeah we'll go see that oh yeah i'm in
the the whole i mean just like
when you hear about the shit that he was able to pull like get dick cheney to sign a fucking
waterboard kit right of like a one gallon water jug and a rag and you're like oh no you know he
did his same thing where he comes in fully pretends to be on the side of whatever dark character he's
talking to,
and gets him comfortable.
And then that's when you pull out the best shit from him.
So you know he was probably in there with Dick Cheney, like,
I have to thank you so much for waterboarding.
You saved this world, and blah, blah, blah.
He's like, yeah, thank you so much.
He apparently plays an Israeli Mossad agent in his interview with Cheney
and two other Georgia GOP people.
And he plays a German homosexual in an interview with Sheriff Joe Arpaio, which I just can't
wait to see how that goes down.
He had new characters for the other people, but Sheriff Joe doesn't know Bruno, so he's
just like, you know, I can do Bruno.
Right.
And he'll still be like, I don't know who this person is.
Right.
But yeah, it is, I don't know.
I find it psychologically interesting there's just
this much open panic it suggests that there's like because you know how trump's big thing is
like they're laughing at us everybody's laughing at us and that's like one of the big issues for
all narcissists is being laughed at it suggests that maybe it's not just narcissism that there's
like something deeper with trump and his culture ministers that
they just can't stand being laughed at.
Well, they're taking L's left and right.
Yeah.
They eke out these weird little culture war wins, but on the main stage, they're getting
laughed at pretty regularly.
Right.
And that is their greatest fear.
When he closes his eyes, he just sees people laughing at him.
Well, didn't he tweet famously, he's like, I'm the first person to, like, immediately
walk out of my Ali G interview or whatever.
I don't get scammed, is what he said.
He was like, but then he said, I would like to punch him in the face.
Yeah.
It's like, oh, so it sounds like he didn't get to you at all.
No.
Yeah.
Even though you, it sounds like there was a good amount of the interview that I've seen.
Didn't sound like you just walked out immediately.
Right.
You got pulled in, my man.
Didn't he fall for a prank call recently, too?
Yeah, Stuttering John called him from the Howard Stern show.
And it wasn't even that great of a prank.
Mild even suggests some hint of shenanigans.
This was just a call, basically, with the president.
Well, because Sacha Baron Cohen is brilliant at what what he does and i feel like me and almost anybody else
who was trying to do a prank like that once you actually get through to the president i'd be
completely off my game yeah i forget what i was gonna do we're really are you having a good day
okay thanks yeah i bet you are okay mega bye um anyways this show premieres on showtime fuck this
is the second time that I've said
I'm going to have to get Showtime
They've done it, they've succeeded
Because they also signed Jesus and Mero
So
I guess this is our future
We all have to get Showtime
Or we just need one login
Like we do
Because we're millennials and we don't buy shit
Yeah, but it premieres on Sunday, so we'll see how it turns out.
I'm watching the shit out of that.
Yeah.
I know it's going to, man, I hope it's good.
It would also be funny if it fell totally flat.
If it was just terrible.
So let's talk about all the weird ways that heat can kill you.
This is just more of an anecdotal thing,
but there's been helicopters and sirens everywhere.
You turn in Los Angeles the past week.
Well, I don't know.
You've been saying that.
They're everywhere, Miles.
No, I don't know.
My neighborhood was full of helicopters and sirens last night.
There was a fatal car accident that I passed today on the way to work.
And a 2015 study found that heat waves contribute to the likelihood of car accidents because
people don't sleep as well in the heat.
And crime also goes up with increased heat.
But yeah, the car accidents thing is surprising to me that it's as pronounced as it is because
you would think that winter would still be deadlier because there's more ice and conditions
on the road.
But the 10 deadliest days of the year to drive historically are July 4th, which makes sense,
and July 3rd because those are holidays.
Everybody's drunk.
Then December 23rd, which makes sense,
because weather and Christmas.
But then August 3rd, January 1st, which makes sense.
Then August 6th, August 4th, August 12th, July 2nd, and then September 2nd.
So it's just really hot days.
What's going on in August?
Yeah, I think it's just heat
right cause that's yeah usually
gets the hottest in August wow
when you have
less sleep you're
essentially like a couple drinks
drunk like
for every lost hour of sleep
oh right cause that also ties into what you were saying
with like daylight savings too right how that
fucks people up too. Yeah.
Exactly. Because of sleep too. Yeah, and it's
one thing for one
person to have a couple drinks, but
if literally everybody in the city
has had a couple drinks and is driving around,
then shit gets a little bit more
dangerous. Then you just
throw a block party at that point. Right, exactly.
Just stop and hang. Yeah.
So, yeah, just be safe out there, guys. Go get your slurpees, your free slur point. Right, exactly. Just stop and hang. Yeah. So, yeah,
just be safe out there, guys.
Yeah.
Go get your Slurpees,
your free Slurpees.
Oh my goodness.
I am...
Thank you for the reminder.
I am, yeah.
That's what we're here for.
Honestly,
the people who are hearing this now,
it's probably too late.
But actually,
if you're listening now,
you probably,
7-Eleven is 24 hours,
so get your ass to Home Depot,
get one of those orange buckets,
get two of them,
and fill them the fuck up.
The ones that plumbers use for leaking toilets?
Yes, I used to do that in college, and the dude hated me.
Because my friend's like, dude, you're not going to do that.
And I'm like, watch how shameless I can be to a faceless corporation.
But yeah, you were saying, Miles, that crime also statistically goes up.
They say, yeah.
I mean, I've read mixed things some
people say that like it's a hazy connection but a lot of a lot of people do see that there is an
uptick in more like violent crime uh with heat waves yeah but i don't know if it's yeah if it's
uh sorry yeah emily blunt's over here man tell you what yeah but yeah it could uh as it gets
hotter i mean it people just you know
they're outside more they're a little more bothered it's people just become a little more
agitated and stressed um so yeah i wonder how much of that is sleep too that like people
are just you know you have less willpower the more tired you are less resistance to urges like i'm
worse at like watching what i eat the later in the day it is, the more tired I am.
So if you're starting the day out, like sleep deprived.
If you're sleep deprived and tired, I mean,
imagine doing any kind of like project, like manual labor in the heat,
like building something.
Right.
Like I've been doing.
And I will, it'll be so hot that I will just end up,
it'll end up looking like the birdhouse Homer made in The Simpsons
where I'm just like, fuck it.
It's done.
And I can't, because I don't have the willpower to endure the heat and do it properly.
It just sort of puts you in a much more stressed out, like you just don't have patience.
And as I was rotting away in my home without AC over the weekend, I had the will to do nothing.
So in a way, it made me less of a participant in society.
There you go.
Maybe we need
adult summer breaks.
Maybe jobs should just
start building that in.
Seriously.
Well, like in New York,
when I worked at
Condé Nast,
it's like a New York-based company,
they had like summer Fridays
where they're like,
hey,
because they want to give
their employees time
to get the fuck out of the city
to at least enjoy the weekend
rather than just staying
in town or whatever.
So I proposed
that we have summer Fridays.
That's how other countries tend to work too.
Really?
Well, I feel like they get so much more vacation.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Like during really hot weeks, it's like everybody's on holiday.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've seen like German travelers being like, oh, you have to take at least three weeks
off to fully enjoy Colorado.
Right. And you're like, wait, so you get you've been working at your company for seven years to accrue three weeks off.
Right. Like, no, I just got hired. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back.
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I want you back in my life.
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All you need to do is record everything like you always do.
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KGB explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends
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A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian,
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And so a quick update.
Kimberly Guilfoyle of Fox News, one of the five, is that what they're called?
The something five?
The five? No, it's the four horsemen of the apocalypse.
Oh, right, right.
My bad.
She is dating Donald Trump Jr.
CNN was asking if this is a conflict of interest, which would be a valid question in any other version of the universe.
But it seems almost hilarious in this age when Fox like so completely in the tank for the Trump administration.
Also, come on, CNN.
Is this a problem?
Like asking it like that?
No.
Just come out with it.
Right.
That's the other thing where I don't understand why some of these other outlets like want to dance around the idea that Fox just isn't this like total mouthpiece of the RNC GOP.
Like why even pretend that they're
not they're they're pretending that they're objective but you know to everyone else like
you guys are hacks so they should just call it what it is and like yes they're now they're
literally in bed with the trump family and now they're literally in the white house in the form
of bill shine with x fox news, like, I don't know.
Yeah.
Is it?
Yeah, even asking if it's a conflict of interest suggests that they're still objective journalists or, like, even aiming for that.
And there are some there.
You know, like, Shep Smith comes through every now and then.
You're like, oh, look at you, Shep.
But, like, for the most part, like, they're big.
They're main shows. I'd say 40% of their on-air talent behaves as though they're either already related to the Trump administration or actively having sex with the president.
Sean Hannity, it has been noted, fills the position of a presidential advisor and spouse because he has his decompression conversations
with him at the end of the day.
Oh, I thought you meant really a spouse.
Oh, man.
I was terrified for a second.
Where are you, Sean?
You're late for dinner.
Don't keep me waiting.
The food's getting cold.
Yeah.
It's been extra chilling going online
and seeing occasionally there are just clips
of a Fox show where the person on the show just starts speaking directly to camera because they know the president's watching.
Right.
And they just say, hey, Mr. President, I know you're seeing this.
It's a good idea.
Right.
And then straight back to the thing.
Right.
And it's like, oh, right.
Hell, this is it.
Cool.
Yeah.
Cool.
Great.
Got it.
Got it.
Well, wow.
This channel isn't even for people.
It's just to talk to the president.
Right.
And the other ones are like, we have to be news unlike them.
And so they just ask things
that are objective.
Right.
Is that strange when they
address the camera?
Is it strange that
these Republicans went to Russia
and then came back
and were like,
nah, Russia's be cool, be chill.
No threat.
Nothing.
Don't worry about midterms.
So let's talk about that.
Trump this morning
had a very, you know, temperamental breakfast, which is something we're all familiar with.
Yes.
If you have children, sometimes they're a little grumpy.
They wake up on the wrong side of bed, start flinging their food about.
Trump at his diplomatic breakfast with NATO, with our allies, just started talking open shit to Germany.
But it was a pretty well-reasoned argument. Let's listen.
But Germany is totally controlled by Russia, because they were getting from 60 to 70 percent
of their energy from Russia and a new pipeline. And you tell me if that's appropriate,
because I think it's not. And I think it's a very bad thing for NATO, and I don't think it should have happened.
And I think we have to talk to Germany about it.
On top of that, Germany is just paying a little bit over 1 percent,
whereas the United States in actual numbers is paying 4.2 percent of a much larger GDP.
So I think that's inappropriate also.
You know, we're protecting Germany, we're protecting France, we're protecting everybody,
and yet we're paying a lot of money to protect.
Now, this has been going on for decades.
This has been brought up by other presidents, but other presidents never did anything about it
because I don't think they understood it or they just didn't want to get involved.
But I have to bring it up because I think it's very unfair to our country,
it's very unfair to our taxpayers. It's very unfair to our taxpayers.
Germany is a captive of Russia because they supply.
They got rid of their coal plants.
They got rid of their nuclear.
They're getting so much of the oil and gas from Russia.
I think it's something that NATO has to look at.
I think it's very inappropriate.
You and I agree that it's inappropriate.
I don't know what you can do about it.
He's talking to himself.
You and I.
It makes sense that they bring billions of dollars to Russia,
and now we have to defend them against Russia.
Okay, asshole, what are you saying?
Oh, they're controlled by Russia.
First, look in the fucking mirror, my man.
I think that's where this is coming from, right?
Of course.
Just take the thing that's true about you and be like, no, you're Russia.
Yeah, and that's not a NATO concern, who their energy trading partners are.
We get so much energy from Canada.
We're not controlled by Canada, are we?
By that logic, right?
If it's about energy being traded.
If we are, that's fine.
No, if it was, we'd be a lot better.
We'd be a lot better off, I think.
At the very least, we'd take basic care of our people.
Yeah, that just rings so hollow.
I don't know why he went there to come at Germany full throat.
I mean, unless this is a prelude to him trying to justify pulling troops, our troops out of Germany or whatever.
But, you know, this whole idea of like,
you know, we're paying four point four percent or four point whatever the figure was of our GDP, like the whole idea that when he keeps talking about NATO not paying what they should be,
is this agreement that Obama brokered that it's like, look, by 2024, all the member nations will
be spending two percent of their GDP on defense because collectively when NATO comes together, that means, okay, everybody's invested in their own defense capability.
So when NATO has come together, like, okay, you bring your trucks, you bring your planes, you got that.
Good.
Everybody.
So we don't have to.
So you're saying that a former president actually did something about it?
Yeah, he did.
And the deadline is in 2024.
And most countries are on track to reach that.
I think the UK has already hit their 2% goal or whatever.
And also, it's not fair to compare what we spend on defense because we have.
Have you heard of the military industrial complex, my man?
Like we're out here trying to spend as much money as possible on defense to keep these
companies rich.
And of course, you're going to demand other people spend more too because that's good business for a lot of American companies too
at the end of the day.
Right.
So it's just so lame, like trying to blow NATO up
right before he has to meet with Putin too.
It seems like scripted.
He has to go in there and be like,
let me try and shake this alliance up as much as possible.
Come on, my man.
It's not going to happen.
Yeah, he's got to knock out a big project before his performance review.
Right.
That's how it goes.
You've got to bring that into the media.
Yeah, and Putin's like, well, you signed that agreement, though.
I know, but I had to.
I had to.
I'm sorry.
So he did, after this, sign a bill condemning the annexation of Crimea or a joint statement
with NATO.
So presumably because he knew
he was going to have to do that,
he had like a little temper tantrum
ahead of time to be like,
I don't really like these guys,
just so you know.
Right.
I may be sitting with them now,
but we're not friends,
bloody, bloody poots.
Yeah, it's,
he fails to like realize
how important NATO is right I mean like
World War two happened because like we didn't get our shit together after World
War one and also this kind of shit speaking of World Wars one and two
there's a reason that Germany doesn't have a standing army like that we're all
very happy with them not having a standing army like and relying on us for
military support but yeah that again not every president can have
the complex intellect well they have an army right since right but not 1950 in the 50s right
there they rely on us to yeah of course a large and also they pay they pay to have our soldiers
on their land like a lot of these bases in europe like which is really america's first
line of defense over there already right if what so now we're gonna foot because that's another
thing it's not like we're gonna start paying to keep these bases operating over there like a lot
of these host countries where the bases are they pay a good share of like of having those soldiers
there so we're gonna you know, the math of it all is,
he doesn't get math,
he doesn't get NATO,
he doesn't get alliances,
he doesn't get friendship,
he doesn't get basic fucking.
He gets conflict.
He wants conflict,
he wants things that he doesn't have and he doesn't give a shit
about the things that he actually has.
That was a,
there was some really good analysis
from Mike Peska on this from a slate
where he was just saying that like you know all you have to understand is that he wants the things
he doesn't have and like actively despises the things he does have which is like you can say
that you can look at his marriages and see that but you can also look at all of his policies like
the actual trade partnerships that are working well for America.
He just shits on them.
But like, you know, and also when it comes to power, like the leaders who have his sort of power, which is like democratically elected, he doesn't respect them.
But strong men who have powers that he can't have, he like gets horny for them.
Right.
Yeah.
It's all very interesting.
It's all part of the whole cult of Trump.
Yeah.
So this is an interesting question.
Bob Corker of Tennessee raised the question.
He was like, we're in a strange place.
I mean, it's becoming a cultish thing, isn't it?
And it's not a good place for any party to end up with a cult-like situation as it relates
to a president that happens to be of purportedly the same party now that's an actual quote that's that's bob
corker who is a democrat no no republican oh a republican weird but who well and also only found
his backbone once he retires right he's retiring so he's no longer afraid of his base.
And so he now feels free to say
what he sees going on in front of him.
But also not do anything about it either, though.
Right.
He's a funny character, that one.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I still don't know why these guys run.
Like, why do they even want to...
I feel like I would want to be in Congress
to make some kind of decisions about something at some point.
And these guys just seem to want to have like a place in Georgetown and some sort of car that drives them around.
Yeah. And that's about it, I guess. I don't get it.
That's why it's Hollywood for ugly people. Whereas like in Hollywood, you get a role to be relevant.
In D.C., you get an office. And then from that point, once you get on, you do whatever it takes to stay relevant.
And in the case of Capitol Hill, it's to stay in office.
And that's how you stay relevant.
In Hollywood, it's take whatever gig you can get, man.
Do reality, whatever.
We got to get this money flowing in.
So yeah.
Now, Donald Trump Jr. did have a very well thought through rebuttal to that criticism.
He said, if it's a cult, it's because they like what my father's doing.
So he's just basically being like, well, if it's a cult, it's because they love him so much.
That's why Scientology is good, because L. Ron Hubbard deserves all of the adulation.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, I mean, there's all sorts of details that kind of line up.
And, you know, legions of worshipers who wear uniforms with, like, the red hats.
He puts paintings and photos of himself, like, everywhere.
Stripped of context, Maga sounds kind of like a giant lizard overlord.
But, yeah, according to Dr. Janja Lalek, who is the director of the Center
for Research on Influence and Control, she's a professor emerata of sociology at California
State University, Chico. She says, basically, there are four characteristics of totalistic cults,
and they are they espouse an all-encompassing belief system exhibit excessive devotion to the
leader avoid criticism of the group and its leader and feel disdain for non-members there's also a
bunch of like weird parallels with trump and l ron hubbard if you actually look at it in addition
to them being like weird gingers who feel like they are God's gift to all women.
He was always like bragging about like just completely made up things and seemed to have
like just lack any shame about just being like, yeah, I was one of the greatest naval
officers of all time.
And they're like, dude, you failed out of the military because you like refused to do
anything and just like sat in the infirmary.
Oh, and he really was trying to, he puffed his chest up like,
I am the naval gift of the gods.
He claimed to be one of the greatest nuclear physicists,
geniuses of nuclear physics, and had just read a single book on it.
Right.
Yeah, so it's all just like when you read that book Going Clear,
book on it.
Yeah.
So it's all just like when you read that book Going Clear, like the stuff about Hubbard really kind of rhymes with a lot of the behaviors you see from the president.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, Trump University was almost Scientology, right?
Yeah.
It was just kind of the same approach to an organization.
Yeah.
Where you just take people's money.
Right.
Right.
And promise them the world.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You pay me now and then later on you will be delivered from all of your worldly troubles and get untold riches.
Work for free for me now, and I will get rid of your insecurities.
Or whatever they promise at the celebrity centers down the street.
Yeah.
They both released books on how to improve yourself.
They both scapegoated the one industry that could like clearly expose that they were full of shit
uh with l ron hubbard was like you know psychiatry is evil because he wrote a book that like claimed
to have all these rules for psychiatry and psychiatrists were like no that's not how human
behavior works oh it is at all wait till i tell my brainwashed freaks. Right. And he was like,
you're a suppressive person. With Trump, it's the media, obviously. Just everything is a lie.
There's even David Miscavige, who was the leader of Scientology for the past number of years,
is always lying about crowd sizes. And when you look at Scientology's membership it's actually a really
small organization but they just like make a point of always making it seem like oh we're like huge
we're basically the new Christianity and it's like no you're like a weird little club yeah but
not that many we're the new Christianity right after Christ died right and those few apostles became christian five of us right now yeah i mean
it is that same thing of like because trump definitely promised the world to vulnerable
people in his campaign you know what i mean and promised to right the wrongs of the world
to be like you can trust me i got you and then he up and does the opposite yeah but if you're
willing to just be like purely cynical about human behavior, you can get
a long way just being like, yes, I will solve all of your problems.
Yeah.
There's also the connection that the Trump Organization, you know, his little charity
that was just a front for taking money from people.
The Trump Organization only donated to one 9-11 charity in the aftermath of September 11th.
So the firefighters?
Yeah, they donated $1,000.
Oh, wow.
Buckle up.
Huge money.
With three zeros?
Yes.
Let me count them.
Yep.
Three zeros.
Well, five if you count after the decimal point.
He donated this money to the, quote, New York Rescue Workers Detoxification Project.
Now that detoxification word is a little,
hmm, what might that mean?
It was a clinic co-founded by one Tom Cruise
in which rescue workers were treated
with L. Ron Hubbard's pseudoscientific book
Clear Mind, Clear Body.
Like what, they just put the book on them?
No, they would put them in saunas to try and cure their breathing troubles.
And the problem was actually that they were breathing poison all day
because Rudy Giuliani refused to clear out Ground Zero and was just like,
no, we're going to keep people down here because it's good photo ops. And, you know, all these people ended up getting horrible cardiovascular, you know, diseases from their work at Ground Zero because he essentially lied to people, Rudy Giuliani.
Project got a hold of these firefighters,
they would, when doctors weren't around,
stick a firefighter in a sauna,
which led to them having even more trouble breathing.
Wow.
Because it's hard to breathe super hot, dry air. And also, it's not fucking science.
Right.
I had no idea.
That's incredible.
Yeah.
So there's all sorts of weird connections.
How did he get duped into giving money to that charity?
Well, the one thing he respects is celebrity, right?
And fame.
So you think Tom Cruise is like, hey, man, you should give money to me for like, give me a thousand bucks.
Like a thousand dollars is nothing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm also a little bit surprised he gave any money at all because he just doesn't.
He just laughs by the sound.
Right.
He generally doesn't. Yeah. Or asked another organization for money and then was like money at all because he just doesn't. He just lost by the sun. He generally doesn't.
Yeah.
Or asked another organization for money and then was like, oh, here's your half a million
dollars that I got from this other person.
But it's from me.
The check is from me.
Money's from this other person.
Right.
There's also, and L. Ron Hubbard has Tom Cruise kind of indirectly.
And then so Donald Trump has Tom Brady, maybe?
Is that his cruise?
Is that his guy?
Oh, yeah.
Is that his?
Yeah. We'll see if like- Famous Tom? Yeah. If there's any trouble in Brazil, I mean, there is, but like he could help. Is Tom Brady, maybe? Is that his crew? Is that his guy? Oh, yeah. Is that his?
We'll see if there's any trouble in Brazil.
I mean, there is, but he could help.
I wonder if Tom Brady would be like, on behalf of me and Gisele, Mr. President, could you do something?
We'll see.
We will, unfortunately.
All right.
We're going to take another quick break.
We'll be right back.
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And there's some news coming out of one of our shithole countries.
Yeah.
A shithole that is of France and the U.S.'s creation, basically, and a lot of the Western world, but namely France and the U.S.
In Haiti, I don't know if anyone's seen the news.
I don't know if you guys have seen this.
Over the weeks.
You guys see this?
You guys hear about this in Haiti?
Haiti basically erupted into violence over the weekend once the government announced a price hike of around like 38%, somewhere between 38% and 51% in some areas on fuel.
And this is in a country where gas is like $4 a gallon already there, and people are living off around $3 per day.
So you do the math when there's a fuel hike.
These people are eventually at a breaking point.
And yes, it turned into huge demonstrations and protests and people blockading the streets and stuff.
huge demonstrations and protests and people blockading the streets and stuff.
But I just wanted to like bring people's attention to Haiti and sort of understanding again, because just sort of like when we were talking about MS-13, I kind of briefly touched on the U.S.'s hand in El Salvador and things like that.
And it's important to know what the U.S.'s history is in Haiti as well.
You know, Haiti is a very unique nation in that it was the first nation to be started by former slaves who basically took back their own freedom from the slave owners.
So after, you know, being inspired by the writings of like Thomas Paine and the French and American revolutions to Sainte-Lovretour, he led a slave rebellion to take control of the island from the French.
And he did successfully.
And he did successfully in France because they wanted like their very own colony, you know, paradise for white people.
They sent Napoleon to go fucking take the island back.
And he failed. And America defended them, right?
Because it was based on their ideals.
So they were super great.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
No, my goodness.
Southern plantation owners were like, don't let this happen here.
Don't even tell
anybody about that this happened. They were scared that the exact same thing would happen.
And so and you can tell in just sort of the way they basically financially ruined Haiti from the
beginning. So in just the most it's the manner of fuckery is is on a whole other level. So since
the French couldn't take the island back by force, they basically, like within two decades after Haiti gaining independence, they demanded that they get reverse reparations.
Basically saying Haiti owes us 150 million francs because all the slave owners lost all that money when the slaves freed themselves.
You owe us that money was the reasoning behind it.
Yeah.
All those small business owners.
Yeah, exactly.
And so the U.S. supported these demands and basically was told other countries,
like, yo, don't recognize Haiti until they pay all this money back.
So Haiti's only option was to basically go along with this extortion scheme by the French.
And when they couldn't make payments, they had to borrow.
And French banks were more than happy to give them money. And, you know, really, really fair interest rates, too, and no
fees and things like that. And basically put them in a hundred twenty two year period of debt
where they basically like, you know, 150 million francs is the equivalent of 21 billion dollars
now. By the time Haiti made their last payment in 1947, 1947 was their last payment,
they were basically paying that money to a U.S. bank that bought all their debt from the French.
Now you might say, what bank is this? Well, at the time it was called the City Bank of New York,
and it was founded by Moses Taylor, who made lots of money smuggling slaves into Cuba when slavery was outlawed in the United
States or the slave trade was outlawed. That's where this man made all his money. This bank is
now called Citigroup or Citibank. Just so you know where all that money, if you bank with them,
read up on their history because I don't know if, like most of Wall Street, was built on a lot of
slave trading. So basically, the fact is, this whole scheme of
paying back these reparations put Haiti in a very impossible situation to get on their feet. And a
lot of times, like, well, look at all the corruption over there and blah, blah, blah.
This was by design to keep the country from developing. And that gives way to things like
governmental corruption and things like that. So when you attack these countries or look over
there and be like, oh, I don't understand what happened, you have to look a little bit further back and say,
this was a country that was basically made an example for taking their own freedom back from
their oppressors. And they were punished basically financially from the beginning.
So I just wanted to bring people's eyes to that because as this unrest is going on and Haiti could
become another group of immigrants
that need to come into this country,
even though in the 90s we were really not kind to them,
I just think it's important to know
what the historical sort of context is
for a lot of this unrest.
And this is just sort of like,
it's the most ironic thing.
It's like their whole thing,
they freed themselves from slavery,
and then the French came
and said, you got to pay us back for all y'all freed yourselves. Well, that's here's your bill
for freeing yourselves. The modern equivalent of $21 billion. Yes, exactly. Is what they were
forced to pay back as a just completely starting from scratch country. Yeah. It's to city bank.
Yeah. Like I think 80% of their revenue at times was being just going straight to service their debt.
Right.
So it's hard to create any infrastructure or invest in your people when you start off basically in debt.
It's like being a college kid now where you're like, hey, man, why aren't you doing better?
It's like because I have all this college debt that I got into.
Of course, it's going to be hard for me to start establishing things when all of my money is going to servicing my debt.
Now, put that in the context of some countries, and you're looking at this kind of unrest.
So, guys, just read up a little bit.
And I just want to point that out because it's a really terrible situation over there.
And this is kind of how things move in this country and other countries.
So, yeah.
Yeah, any Americans judging Haiti or Haitians is bonkers. It just doesn't make any sense. Yeah, if you look at it, yeah, like when you really read into it, it So, yeah. Yeah. Any Americans judging Haiti or Haitians is bonkers.
It just doesn't make any sense.
Yeah.
If you look at, yeah, like when you really read into it, it's, yeah.
They haven't like Googled history.
They haven't, like the U.S. military occupied Haiti for 20 years.
Yeah.
And then we propped up Papa Dr. Vallier, who's terrible.
And it's our fault, basically.
Yeah.
So if it's a mess, it's our fault plus an earthquake.
Like it's not anything they did or anything they yeah it's uh yeah and just to know just kind of like god like it's the irony
of a bank that makes its fortunes off of illegal slave trade then buys the debt up from a country
that like freed itself from slavery it's like oh god anyway so that's a quick history check-in this episode brought to you by
city bank yeah the new city bank mastercard no uh all right guys it's time for a little
check-in with the world oh sports it's time for world cup date oh what's that oh there it is
where's my glow stick where's my glow stick oh jack whoa finger tutting over there wow got the
light up led finger gloves uh yes so the world cup uh right now england and croatia are playing
in the other semi-final uh and they will face france who beat belgium yesterday uh and now this
could be of i don't know what's happening and you know as we record the game is happening but i just
want to point out that either way like i to me i think the final will be france and england and
even if it isn't uh the winner is nike and i'll get to that in a second but uh when you look at
just sort of the diversity on these squads right now like belgium france and england are great
examples of the diversity in these european countries contributing to like hey look at that
you uh you welcome your populate your immigrant population to participate in your national team sport,
and you're much stronger for it. For France, 12 of their 23 players on the squad are of African
descent. And England, they've incrementally become more and more diverse, but now they're at 11 of
their 23 players being black or mixed. And even people like Harry Kane, he's Irish.
He comes from Irish lineage.
So there is a lot of diversity going on in the World Cup.
But like I said, no matter what, no matter who wins these semifinals or the final,
the winner is Nike.
Because at this point, it is going to be a Nike-sponsored team versus a Nike-sponsored team.
And that's what we call visibility.
Adidas has pretty much a stranglehold in terms of the branding of the World Cup
since I think the 70s, and I think their contract runs into like 2030 or something.
So the balls are obviously Adidas.
You see all their graphics around that, like signboards around the pitch.
A majority of teams in the tournament are Adidas-sponsored teams,
but now it's Nike. They're down in there. It's going to be two Nike teams and some of the
biggest stars of the tournament, like Harry Kane and Kylian Mbappe, both sponsored by Nike.
So yeah, in terms of NASDAQ and stock markets, Nike's a big winner for this World Cup.
Yeah. I never thought of it like the way NASCAR kind of works, where it's Ford and
Chevy fighting each other. I never thought of it that the way NASCAR kind of works, where it's Ford and Chevy fighting each other. Right.
I never thought of it that way, but yeah, it's Nike
making a run. Yeah, and Nike was kind of late
to the football game,
but now they're in every league,
except for the MLS, but they're in most
leagues at most levels, and
yeah, they're becoming
a force to be reckoned with.
Guys, I'm Team Adidas. I think creativity
is the answer.
Like that ad says.
Is that an ad?
Yeah, there's this ad.
It's like the most cynical fucking ad.
You haven't seen that?
Where it's like all the Adidas people.
It's like Pharrell and like different-
My mind turns off to the messaging
because I'm just like, okay, this is a bunch of celebrities.
It's so whack.
It's like, they're like, creativity is the answer.
And they're like kicking the soccer ball
and then they start playing volleyball with it.
And then everybody starts like jumping rope.
And it's just like the most lit millennial party ever.
You know what's so funny?
Even when that commercial comes on, I tune out the words.
Because then I just started like, oh, cool.
I'm like, whoa, who's that in the background?
Yeah.
Is that James Harden?
Yeah.
It's pretty brutal.
Yeah.
You guys, Johnny Depp's not doing well.
What do you mean?
He's, I think, the lead or one of the leads in this new movie, City of Lies, which was written by me when I was 13 and a goth.
Yeah.
That sounds like such a stock poster behind us in a movie about Hollywood.
Right, right.
Or anywhere.
Yeah.
D.C., L.A., New York.
Never dead.
I don't believe in your city of lies.
It's actually about the murder of Biggie Smalls in Los Angeles and also with some tie-ins to the murder of Tupac, which those tie together more closely than I even realized.
Shout out to last podcast
on the left. They just did an episode about
the two murders and what actually
happened, and spoiler alert,
they're both pretty much solved.
But go check that podcast out if you're interested.
But the dude is dead, though,
right? Yes, they're both. They're both dead, right?
Both of the people who pulled the trigger are dead.
What's that mean? So, Super anahosnia is shaking her head no they're not dead and i think she's
referring to the fact that tupac is still alive oh yes uh which of course because she claims to
be tupac and i still don't believe you johnny depp in this film is playing uh the detective
who like put it all together figured it out uh, of course, we need some grizzled old white cop
to save the day in this story.
I hope he's playing all the guys from last podcast on the left,
like an Eddie Murphy kind of role.
That would be awesome.
Norbit that shit.
But he was apparently on the set of this movie
just drunk a lot of the time which as we
found out he's spending you know hundreds of thousands of dollars on wine
every month there was a profile of him that we went over in Rolling Stone last
week or the week before that was truly bleak and just almost like it was, he is the physical embodiment
of the corrupting influence of fame in Hollywood.
He's literally like turning into a vampire.
Like he doesn't come out during the daylight
and is drunk and stoned at all times
and just cracking himself up
while his bodyguards and professional chef
are just like, you're the man, Johnny.
And anyways.
That sounds like the movie.
Right.
That's the story you tell.
That's the movie.
Yeah.
But anyways, they were filming and a location scout tried to shut down the shooting because
they weren't permitted to go any later.
He had already extended the shoot by an hour.
The director was like, yeah, why don't you try
and tell Johnny Depp that we're not going to shoot
because he's crazy and presumably wasted.
So the location chief then went over to a cop
and was like, hey, I don't want to fuck with Johnny Depp.
He's crazy, but can we shut this down?
Johnny Depp overheard and just ran up and started beating the guy
and screaming at him, punched him in the ribs a couple times,
and then offered him $100,000 to punch him back.
Like, here, here's $100,000.
Punch me back, man.
What, did he go to the four-year-old school of fucking mediation?
That's like the shit you do when you're a kid where you accidentally make your little cousin cry.
And you're like, okay, hit me, hit me, hit me.
And then it's all good.
It's all good.
Shut the fuck up.
Don't tell my mom.
Yeah.
Also, there are emerging details about LeSean McCoy that we'll probably get into another day.
But there might be some serious Benghazi shit going on with that dude.
But we'll update that at a later time when more of the details are official.
Drake has broken a Beatles record.
He now has seven top ten songs at the same time.
I think the Beatles record was five,
and he now has seven of the top 10 songs.
Take that, Paul.
Yeah.
I mean.
This raises a question.
Going into this culture,
once we saw that streaming was happening,
I think the assumption was that our music tastes and music success was
going to become more fragmented and niche because everybody can just get whatever music they want
at the drop of a hat. And, you know, I think people assumed similar stuff about businesses,
like small websites could succeed or small, you know, businesses could succeed by throwing their business up on eBay.
And instead, we're trending toward a world where Facebook, Google, and Amazon and Apple own everything
and everyone listens to the same music.
It's weird that a lack of barriers to entry make it so that everyone is all about the same stuff.
Yeah.
I mean, to me, I know a lot of people are like,
does this mean that Drake is bigger than the Beatles?
No, I don't think so.
I think Drake is in an era where the nature of the music business
and how the charts work benefit him greatly.
Because even when you look at the songs that are on here,
like Nice For What, Non-op, God's Plan, In My
Feelings, I'm Upset, Emotionless, Don't Matter To Me
those aren't even the best Drake songs
from his catalog.
They're not even the
best songs on that album.
I'm Upset is the worst song on that
album. But it's just he released it
first as a single and it has
a Degrassi video and so everybody's
like, oh, it's cool. Right and then part of
what people don't realize is like streams count
like towards the billboard charts too
and that can come from YouTube or whatever
so you have a video that's like a
Degrassi reunion and a lot of people
start watching it that's gonna help the fucking
chart performance. You should be embarrassed that
I'm Upset is on there because
like if Weird Al was to make a
song parodying Drake like I feel like it would be called I'm Upset is on there because if Weird Al was to make a song parodying Drake,
I feel like it would be called I'm Upset.
It would be a sensitive guy rapping
about how his feelings are hurt about stuff.
What do you think,
Alex? It does
seem like the Beatles were in an era
where they needed to get people excited about the
music and I feel like statistically, Drake
can run up all these listens on just
the entire planet
saying oh there's a new Drake album and like listen to it at least once and then that does it
that's all it takes like yeah yeah the Beatles are like Michael Jordan like they're they're the best
even if people with objectively bigger stats come along they're just the best oh that's it okay so
you're taking shots at LeBron right now I like him a lot and I like Jordan more but more. But I was raised on it. You know, it's my way.
Are you from Chicago?
You said that very diplomatically, like you and LeBron
are tight outside of
recording.
He almost went to my Blaze Pizza. It was very
exciting. Oh, yeah.
I was looking at the pictures of people lined up
and I was like, that's my bank there.
What? Yeah. So he didn't show up?
He didn't show up, though.
Of course.
That must have made him feel good, though.
Just responding to a tweet with emojis
and people like,
LeBron might be there.
Yeah.
It would be stunning if he went to that blaze.
It's not even freestanding.
It's surrounded by stuff.
Anyway.
What are the five Beatles songs
that were in the top five?
The top five are,
now brace yourself,
you may have never heard of these songs
and they probably haven't been played since.
Can't Buy Me Love.
I've never heard of that.
Twist and Shoot.
Shout.
Shout.
Shout.
She Loves You.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I Want to Hold Your Hand.
Okay.
And Please Please Me.
Okay.
Never heard of any of those songs.
Yeah.
So, in a way, I think Drake, you could flex up on the Beatles.
Right.
And these are songs that were recorded and released years before any of us were born.
Do we think that kids who are born 10, 15 years from now will be making those same jokes
about, I'm upset, the all-time classic yeah the Degrassi reunion video right nobody gives a
shit you're like my they're like I got you know I wanted to do my first dance at my wedding to my
dad's favorite song nice for what that's what I did I like nice for what come on I mean that's a
fun song what I'm saying is like even for Drake like those are some great Beatles songs you know
and these are kind of like ones that I would be like yeah I mean that's that's those are some great Beatles songs, you know, and these are kind of like ones that I would be like, yeah, I mean, that's,
that's,
those are some,
there's,
they're okay Drake songs,
but yeah,
I guess Drake is like,
sort of like the iPhone of artists,
you know,
like a lot of people love it because like,
it's just cool to have.
And if you're really passive about it,
you can just kind of gravitate towards it because it's so popular.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Not to say that I don't fuck with Drake.
I mean,
I like some of his songs.
So,
I mean,
ultimately,
uh,
I think you asked,
is Drake bigger than the Beatles?
But what do we mean?
Is he better?
Is he bigger?
Do more people know him?
Right.
Like the population of the world is currently 7.6 billion
back around the time that the Beatles were making music.
It was like 3.1.
So maybe more people know about him on a per capita basis.
That would be really interesting.
That'd be, yeah, somebody needs to do that study.
Hey, who's in the Zeitgang, if you're a statistician or just numerologically adept, that doesn't
make any sense.
Yeah, don't use numerology.
Math math.
Yeah, well, no, I like numerology.
sense but yeah don't use numerology math yeah well no i like numerology if uh if you fuck with terryology uh terrence howard's math philosophy uh let us know how that works but yeah i wonder
like how what would the metric be like if we take into account population growth like have heard
a drake song or have like intentionally played a drake song how about that okay but there's there
is there any way to know who knows knows? Yeah. And be sure to wait
it for how cool of outfits the Beatles fans
were wearing. They were either in Mad Men suits
or very flowery pants.
That's pretty cool. Waited for coolness
of outfit. But yeah, I mean
just based on the fact that
technology is so much
better at delivering culture
around the world. I feel like maybe
Drake has the edge.
All the way from whether he's-
Six, six, six to-
Relivable.
Somebody needs to also do the gray album for this Drake album now that this conversation-
Yeah, but this album isn't on the level of the black album.
Certainly is not.
So I don't think we need that yet.
It's way above it.
Didn't you just hear the conversation we just had?
Yeah, right.
It's the greatest album of all time.
Because a lot of those Drake songs are songs that I think are not as good as their videos.
Like God's plan, the video is just such a thing, you know?
And then the song is like, fine, it's okay.
But so he has that video advantage where you can just be like, oh, there's a new Drake video.
Just pull it up, you know?
So the video is where he goes around giving money out to people yeah right right yeah well and even even
the nice for what video is even better than that good song you know right it's great yeah yeah no
that's a really good point um yeah i guess it's just everybody has, when you think about the difference between now and even eight years ago, like when you're standing in line, everybody's looking at their phone.
So everybody just has these culture delivery mechanisms just like hooked to their eyeballs at all times.
And so maybe this is just like the culture and the people who, you know, do media are getting that much more sophisticated.
Right.
And so that's why they're able to like capture us with whatever big event they want to.
Because, I mean, you can just passively chart like especially with Drake, like because the way Spotify and Apple Music where all these streaming services have these playlists that you can just be like, oh, let me put this playlist on passively.
And boom, you've racked up 50 Drake spins in one thing that contribute to the chart performance.
I think there's also something with us.
Because we're all on our phones, we lack human interaction, and so we crave these shared experiences of the In My Feelings dance challenge and stuff like that which I know people are like the internet already ruined in my feelings
but I think that dance
challenge only enhances in my
feelings guys stay tuned for Jack's
in my feelings challenge video
it's going to
be amazing he blew his knee
out trying to do the shoot dance
and
that's gonna do it for today Alex
it's been a goddamn pleasure
having you man
thank you so much
it's always good
yeah
where can people find you
and follow you
and what is a tweet
that you've been enjoying
oh
I don't know why
I keep coming back
to this tweet
but it's somebody took
the Wild Thoughts music video
with Rihanna
and then they swapped in
Waluigi noises
for the like,
wah part of it.
Yeah.
And it's a good song.
I don't,
I'm not like trying to make fun of the song or anything,
but it really,
really works.
Wow.
It's great.
Yeah.
Wow.
Uh,
I don't know why I like it so much.
And,
uh,
yeah.
And then my website's alexchmitty.com.
I'm on the cracked podcast.
And,
if you're in LA,
I'm doing standup on Sunday at the clubhouse.
Awesome.
Nice.
Nice. Nice.
Miles, where can people find you?
You can find me.
Follow me.
Contribute to my ego on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey.
And a tweet that I like.
I think that's the next part we do.
This comes because we're talking about the Sacha Baron Cohen thing.
This is actually from Demi Adijuibay, who was on our show a few weeks ago.
He was tweeting a link to the trailer
for the new Sasha Baron Cohen show,
and he said,
I worked for a little bit as a creative consultant
on the development of this show.
I haven't seen the final result,
but all the parts you like were my idea,
and all the parts you hate were someone else.
Enjoy!
That's amazing that he worked on that.
Always undercover.
Tweet I've been enjoying,
Chris Fleming,
at Chris Fluming on Twitter,
said,
love when the internet's down
and Gmail says,
something's not right.
Like a dinosaur hunter.
And you can follow me on Twitter
at Jack underscore O'Brien.
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Where we link off to the information
that we talked about in today's episode
as well as the song that we ride out on
miles. What song am I gonna sing?
Today's ride out song is coming to us from
super producer Anna Hosnier. Anna, what do you
got? Hi.
Hi.
So,
I don't know if you guys remember that song Fuck It I Don't Want You Back by Iman
Yeah it's a classic
But anyway I've been listening to his new album
Because guess what he's back and he's in love again
And so I wanted to play this one song
That I've been really enjoying by his
Because I think he you know
Sometimes you know love brings you down
And then it gets you back up 10 years later
with a new single.
So it's called You and Only You by Iman.
I'm probably saying his name wrong,
but I love you.
You just said that to Miles
while locking eyes with him.
Please don't cry.
You said that too.
All right.
Well, we're going to ride out on that.
We will be back tomorrow
because it is a daily podcast.
Talk to you guys then.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye. The shame I'm holding on to The habit I desire
This long and winding road
Left me alone
All alone
This feeling that I want to dive up
This heaven guide
The soul and spirit know
The heavenly
The heavenly
My mind has led me wrong
Give me something real
Give me something real
Some hope is what I long
I just wanna feel
I just wanna feel
You and only you
And you and only you You and only you, and you and only you
You and only you, and you and only you
You and only you, and you and only you
You and only you
The guilt that pounds my chest
The suffocations like I never get the chance to breathe
The tears just run away
I get no relief
There's never peace
My mind has led me wrong
Give me something real
Some hope is what I long
I just wanna feel
I just wanna feel
You and only you You and only you, and you and only you
You and only you, and you and only you
You and only you, and you and only you
You and only you
When I'm all alone and I got nothing left inside You and only you When I'm all alone and I got nothing left inside
All I want is you, you
I got nothing left, no, nothing left but
All my thoughts, I got all my thoughts on
You and only you and you and only you You and only you and you and only you
You and only you and you and only you
You and only you
I got, I got, I got nothing but you and only you
Ain't nobody make me feel the way you do
You and only you
I woke up this morning with you on my mind
You and only you
You and only you is all I need to make it through
You and only you You, you, you, you
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