The Daily Zeitgeist - Drake > Beatles? Sacha Baron Cohen: Enemy Of The State 7.11.18

Episode Date: July 11, 2018

In episode 187, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Alex Schmidt to discuss Sacha Baron Cohen's new show with victims like Sarah Palin, different ways you can die in a heatwave, how Fox New's Kimber...ly Guilfoyle's relationship with Trump Jr. is a conflict of interest, Trump attempting to blow up NATO, plus his behavior resembling that of a cult leader, how US capitalism hurt Haiti, world cupdate, Johnny Depp attacking crew members on the set of his new movie, Drake breaking Beatles records, and more!  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:27 Dick Bandit. That part wasn't really about the AKA. That's courtesy of Taylor T. Fleming on Twitter. I've always been curious what, like, does Dick Bandit mean he goes around stealing dicks? Or that his dick goes around stealing things? Like, if you had a prehensile penis, that would be the ultimate shoplifting weapon. Anyways, I'm thrilled. The only steals don't.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Yeah, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Miles Love, do you ever dream of candy-coated gray drops? Had to do the fade out. Thank you so much to Monty at Hatcha33. Hatcha. AKA. Shout out to Zay King. We sent out a flare. We're like, yo, getting light on the AKs and a torrent of them came in.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Almost like they were just waiting for us to ask that. Oh, yeah. We'll show you. And don't worry, Travis, American Butcher. I got you, man. I saw you hit me with some stuff on IG. I got some for everybody. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the host of the Cracked Podcast,
Starting point is 00:03:46 one of the funniest dudes out here, Mr. Alex Schmick, a.k.a. Too Nice Shakur. Got that hug life tatted on my chest. Hug life? Man, I was about to say I didn't have a musical intro, and I guess I do. There you go. Oh, it's brilliant. Hey, man. It's good to have you.
Starting point is 00:04:04 No, thank you for having me. It's great. Yeah. How have you been? I am good. I traveled recently to Barbados, which was very, very nice, very exciting. Very cool. And yeah, otherwise, just enjoying the time.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Is that where Rihanna's from? It is, yes. Yes. That's how I know of it. I've never heard of it. Their airport has welcome banners of famous Barbadians, and she's one of the three. Oh, nice. Welcome to Barbados.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Who else do we have? Who else do we have? Who else do we have? Brianna. Cricketer and horse jockey. Okay. All right. So she's in good company.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Yeah. Damn. Well, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment, but first we like to tell our listeners what they're in store for. We're going to talk about the hottest story on the right, which is Sacha Baron Cohen's at it again, guys. Beware. Look out.
Starting point is 00:04:51 We're going to talk about the fact that Kimberly Guilfoyle of Fox News is dating DJT Jr. Is that a conflict of interest? At this point? I can't say that with a straight face almost said it with a straight face but uh and then we're going to talk about all the weird ways that heat
Starting point is 00:05:10 can kill you uh we're going to talk about how the president tried to blow nato up this morning we're going to talk about whether donald trump is a cult leader technically uh we're also going to talk about haiti yeah and just all the ways that the Western world has fucked Haiti. We're going to talk World Cup date. We're going to talk about how a sad turtle had his feeding time interrupted. We're going to talk about Johnny Depp punching a crew member while shit-faced on set. Drake breaking Beatles records. We might check in with our millennial beat. We got a lot to cover today, guys.
Starting point is 00:05:53 But first up, Alex, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? My most recent thing is The Office Silent Streak. I just finally caught up with A Quiet Place, which is as good as everyone says. It's really a great movie. And then I was reminded that there's a cold open on The Office where they have a silent streak going in The Office. And so I watched that clip. It was great. Really good. Who broke it? It was Kevin broke it because he ate a candy bar.
Starting point is 00:06:17 And goes, that's good. Yeah. They were like, you don't have to say that every time you take a bite. And he was like, I totally do. And then he takes a bite and does it again immediately. And it's great. Yeah, yeah. Just an incidental silent streak. Like, not everybody knows about it, but they're just like, yeah, nobody's talking today. No, they're timing it. No, they all knew, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Oh, they're timing it. Everybody's on board. And just can't resist himself. Yeah, yeah. And the interview chair, Jim, is writing notes just saying, we're on a silent streak for 15 minutes and we're going. And I had just watched him save his family, you know? It was great. Seriously, John Krasinski.
Starting point is 00:06:50 What is something, maybe that's where he got the idea for the movie. Wasn't it written by him, too? It sort of feels that way. Holy shit. He co-wrote it. Because my girlfriend saw the movie at the Alamo Drafthouse where they have fun things playing beforehand that are custom made by the staff. And so they played that clip.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Oh, really? And so she was like, you should watch this clip too because it's just like a fun thing for men. And does a guy ruin? Yeah. Does a guy get killed by being like, oh, this is good. This is good. And the aliens come and eat the whole family.
Starting point is 00:07:17 That's how Emily Blunt talks in the film. Yeah. Oh, that's good. Our kids are in danger. What's something you think is overrated, Alex? I love baseball, and I think the seventh inning stretch is overrated, and we should eliminate it. And I think we should do it because baseball, in the community of the sport, there's kind of a crisis going on where people running it keep saying they need to shorten the games. And so they keep pitching these crazy things like, what if extra innings starts with a guy on second and one out?
Starting point is 00:07:45 Like there's some kind of power up somebody activated or something. Right. And then in the meantime, we have like celebrities drunkenly singing for 10 minutes at Wrigley Field. We could cut that out. Let's just eliminate that. And then we keep the whole baseball game. It's great. But I love the seventh inning stretch.
Starting point is 00:08:00 I like taking me out to the ballgame. Yeah. That's the only time I – sometimes games are so boring, that's the only time I will engage. Like where it drums up like, here we go! Take me out to... Yeah, I'm that drunk at a game. I guess not everybody views trips to
Starting point is 00:08:15 Dodger Stadium as an audition for the music industry. Right, right. I look around. I take a quick scan. It blows around. You blow a tone. A pitch pipe. And I'm like, the organist fucked me again. I said, be fun. Just found the sixth putting together a drum kit really quickly. Yeah, just really quick.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Hey, man, you a guitar tech? All right, forget it, forget it. Can you just do the drop D? Whatever. Yeah. It is funny, though, that baseball would have a long break built into it. Already, right? At all, yeah. Baseball is a long break. It it. Already, right? At all, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Baseball is a long break. It's people standing around for the most part. And then, yeah, that's about it. It's one of the few professional sports where cardiovascular fitness is not that big of a deal. No. Yeah. Like pitchers run and it's purely for leg strength.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Yeah. Yeah. A guy once pitched a perfect game shit-faced. So, yeah. Yeah, America. It's great. America. Yeah. A guy once pitched a perfect game shit-faced. So, yeah. Yeah. America. It's great. America is great.
Starting point is 00:09:09 What is something you think is underrated? I think deleting the Twitter app is way underrated. I think use Twitter, keep doing it, but eliminate it from your phone. It's very distracting. It's very hard to, like, do anything or function. Like, keep it a desktop thing. Yeah. Keep it a desktop thing.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Like, compartmentalize your use of the service. Yeah. Yeah. It's great. What if you just have, like, a fire take out in the wild? And your ego can't rest until it gets that sweet, sweet validation of life. Do you have to write it down on some leaves or something? In your poo?
Starting point is 00:09:37 What do you do? Yeah, I mean, legally you can steal a computer at that point. Ah, yeah. The theft is a lie. That's true. I've got a fire take. Get the fuck out my way yeah citizens arrest wait what i'm commentarying this this car um yeah i think about that a lot too because uh yesterday
Starting point is 00:09:53 i got home and i was looking at twitter and i put it down to go start laundry and then i thought of something to tweet and i picked it back up and then i got pulled back in into just scrolling and i was like oh yeah because prior to this show I wasn't really active on Twitter because I didn't really like my other work I didn't really have time to tweet but now that I'm more like interactive with social media for sure I'm it's starting to like I'm starting to get that thing where I'm like oh shit yeah this is really a distraction yeah I mean in a cesspool before I do anything, I ask myself, what would Twitter think? And, you know, like parenting anything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Would this be good for some likes? If you look at your drafts, it's all surveys. You're about to do polls that you're about to tweet out. What would Twitter think of this? Finally, Alex, what is a myth? What's something people think is true that you know to be false? So I heard a prior episode of this show with a wonderful guest named Soren Bui, who is a great fella.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Really, really like him. Oh, that clown. But he is not handsome. Enough with the myth that Soren is handsome. No, just joking. Well, so he's wrong about breakfast. Breakfast is great. All right.
Starting point is 00:10:59 It's fantastic. In your face, Soren. Wait, what he said? Breakfast wasn't great? He said it was not the most important meal of the day. It's overrated. It may not be like in terms of like your nutrition, but like in terms of what a breakfast can be,
Starting point is 00:11:12 those foods are A1 number one top shelf foods for me. Oh, yeah, for sure. Eggs, love them. I was going to, eggs is the best. Corned beef hash and eggs is one of my favorite gross truck stop breakfast things. Oh, yeah. Corned beef and hash. Corned beef hash and hash corned beef
Starting point is 00:11:25 hash yeah i love it it's delicious especially like i go to bob's big boy the old like the old one in burbank and it just tastes like dog food but i love it it's like that dog food like that shit yeah you just ruined corned beef i for whatever reason i'm like yeah because there i don't know when i was a kid i had a fascination with dog food. I thought it would always taste good when I would try it. It's never good. No. Apparently just for dogs. Well, I had cakes for breakfast this morning. I had pancakes, but I like to remind myself I was just eating cake,
Starting point is 00:11:55 and I'm fine with that. They were delicious. You made pancakes? I did not personally make pancakes, but my son loves pancakes, so my wife made pancakes. In fun shapes for him? With bananas. He doesn't need the fun shapes.
Starting point is 00:12:08 He just gets in there. Oh, he's not here to fuck spiders, am I? Yeah, exactly. That is a saying among the Australians. Yeah, that, shout out to, I forget who it was on Twitter, who was like, you might want to know that we're not here to fuck spiders is a commonly used phrase in Australia. Now, some people might weigh in and be like, this dude just lied to you. But I love it nonetheless.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Like, we're not here to fuck around. They say it now. The Zeitgang says it at least. I'm glad you repeated it, because when you said it the first time, it ran together in a way in my head, where I was like, it's something about spiders. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Yeah. Yeah, right. We're not here to fuck spiders. So true. Yeah. We're not here to fuck spiders. So true. Yeah. We're not here. I've been saying that forever. It sounds like also like a good environmental advocacy group who's like, you know, we're not here to fuck spiders.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Right. We're here to save the planet. All right. Let's get into the stories of the day. Let's get into the stories of the day. Right now, still at the top of the Drudge Report front page is just this panic. Panic. Over the fact that Sacha Baron Cohen has a show coming out.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Yes. And the right is triggered. They're going full snowflake on this one. Panic at the Reichstag. Yeah. They are going full snowflake on this one. Panic at the Reichstag. Yeah. It's Sacha Baron Cohen pretended to be a wounded vet for interview.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Tell sick CBS Showtime to donate proceeds. I guess they're talking about Palin. List of victims grows. CBS shocks. Sacha Baron Cohen mocks disabled vets. Comedy prank show spirals out of control. And when you click through to any of these stories, like they're just completely off base.
Starting point is 00:13:48 He's just, Matt Drudge, I think, either he got caught in a Sacha Baron Cohen interview or he's just really scared of being caught in one of those. Because they went after most people, like big names on the right and small names. Yeah. And on the left, like Bernie. Yeah, I think Bernie got caught.
Starting point is 00:14:02 He showed up at the Women's March and did something silly. But yeah, this is apparently a very tender spot for the right. You know why? It's because that culture war thing where they like on the right, there's such a lack of creativity and empathy that they couldn't possibly come up with content like this. And I think that, you know, the whole thing with like, we need our own Saturday Night Live. Right. with content like this.
Starting point is 00:14:21 And I think that, you know, the whole thing with like, we need our own Saturday Night Live. Right. Like when they see shit like this, they're like, God,
Starting point is 00:14:28 what if we could do that to Joe Biden and get Hillary to admit she's a Russia, you're a fuck. Yeah. And also, fucking miss me with this like, oh,
Starting point is 00:14:39 how dare they, you know, disrespect veterans when your president is out here doing that constantly and you don't have shit to say? Right. Yeah. It was one of the drudge right above it was one of the bullet points list of victims grows.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Yes. Victims. Holy shit. There's so many things with victims right now. Are you kidding me? Yeah. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:59 The only victim is democracy. So the focus, because the most detail that we've gotten is from Sarah Palin, because she's just pissed, is from this interview where he posed as a veteran, a disabled veteran, and interviewed her. We don't know the content of the interview. But it's weird because the angriest part of her retelling of the story is that after the interview, they dropped her off at the wrong airport. She's like, they did that on purpose. They knew I wouldn't be able to get a flight out. It's like, what? No, they didn't.
Starting point is 00:15:34 It's like when you read an angry Yelp review and it has nothing to do with anything and then you're like, oh, this is what happened. You fucked up as a parent on your birthday and the bakery didn't have the cake you tried to panic buy. Therefore, they're a shitty bakery. Whereas this was like, I missed my flight. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Yeah, you got that. It doesn't necessarily sound like she knows it was Sasha Baron Cohen or anything. She's just mad about this other thing. Right, right. Well, what was the cool nickname she came up with him? Oh, yeah. She said, here is my challenge, shallow Sasha boy. And that was like written and you know what why isn't msnbc writing about this how dare she say something like that shallow sasha boy sasha boy oh my goodness um that legitimately clutched
Starting point is 00:16:19 it sounds like his next character yeah shallow sasha boy yeah we'll go see that oh yeah i'm in the the whole i mean just like when you hear about the shit that he was able to pull like get dick cheney to sign a fucking waterboard kit right of like a one gallon water jug and a rag and you're like oh no you know he did his same thing where he comes in fully pretends to be on the side of whatever dark character he's talking to, and gets him comfortable. And then that's when you pull out the best shit from him.
Starting point is 00:16:50 So you know he was probably in there with Dick Cheney, like, I have to thank you so much for waterboarding. You saved this world, and blah, blah, blah. He's like, yeah, thank you so much. He apparently plays an Israeli Mossad agent in his interview with Cheney and two other Georgia GOP people. And he plays a German homosexual in an interview with Sheriff Joe Arpaio, which I just can't wait to see how that goes down.
Starting point is 00:17:12 He had new characters for the other people, but Sheriff Joe doesn't know Bruno, so he's just like, you know, I can do Bruno. Right. And he'll still be like, I don't know who this person is. Right. But yeah, it is, I don't know. I find it psychologically interesting there's just this much open panic it suggests that there's like because you know how trump's big thing is
Starting point is 00:17:30 like they're laughing at us everybody's laughing at us and that's like one of the big issues for all narcissists is being laughed at it suggests that maybe it's not just narcissism that there's like something deeper with trump and his culture ministers that they just can't stand being laughed at. Well, they're taking L's left and right. Yeah. They eke out these weird little culture war wins, but on the main stage, they're getting laughed at pretty regularly.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Right. And that is their greatest fear. When he closes his eyes, he just sees people laughing at him. Well, didn't he tweet famously, he's like, I'm the first person to, like, immediately walk out of my Ali G interview or whatever. I don't get scammed, is what he said. He was like, but then he said, I would like to punch him in the face. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:16 It's like, oh, so it sounds like he didn't get to you at all. No. Yeah. Even though you, it sounds like there was a good amount of the interview that I've seen. Didn't sound like you just walked out immediately. Right. You got pulled in, my man. Didn't he fall for a prank call recently, too?
Starting point is 00:18:28 Yeah, Stuttering John called him from the Howard Stern show. And it wasn't even that great of a prank. Mild even suggests some hint of shenanigans. This was just a call, basically, with the president. Well, because Sacha Baron Cohen is brilliant at what what he does and i feel like me and almost anybody else who was trying to do a prank like that once you actually get through to the president i'd be completely off my game yeah i forget what i was gonna do we're really are you having a good day okay thanks yeah i bet you are okay mega bye um anyways this show premieres on showtime fuck this
Starting point is 00:19:04 is the second time that I've said I'm going to have to get Showtime They've done it, they've succeeded Because they also signed Jesus and Mero So I guess this is our future We all have to get Showtime Or we just need one login
Starting point is 00:19:20 Like we do Because we're millennials and we don't buy shit Yeah, but it premieres on Sunday, so we'll see how it turns out. I'm watching the shit out of that. Yeah. I know it's going to, man, I hope it's good. It would also be funny if it fell totally flat. If it was just terrible.
Starting point is 00:19:38 So let's talk about all the weird ways that heat can kill you. This is just more of an anecdotal thing, but there's been helicopters and sirens everywhere. You turn in Los Angeles the past week. Well, I don't know. You've been saying that. They're everywhere, Miles. No, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:59 My neighborhood was full of helicopters and sirens last night. There was a fatal car accident that I passed today on the way to work. And a 2015 study found that heat waves contribute to the likelihood of car accidents because people don't sleep as well in the heat. And crime also goes up with increased heat. But yeah, the car accidents thing is surprising to me that it's as pronounced as it is because you would think that winter would still be deadlier because there's more ice and conditions on the road.
Starting point is 00:20:37 But the 10 deadliest days of the year to drive historically are July 4th, which makes sense, and July 3rd because those are holidays. Everybody's drunk. Then December 23rd, which makes sense, because weather and Christmas. But then August 3rd, January 1st, which makes sense. Then August 6th, August 4th, August 12th, July 2nd, and then September 2nd. So it's just really hot days.
Starting point is 00:21:02 What's going on in August? Yeah, I think it's just heat right cause that's yeah usually gets the hottest in August wow when you have less sleep you're essentially like a couple drinks drunk like
Starting point is 00:21:17 for every lost hour of sleep oh right cause that also ties into what you were saying with like daylight savings too right how that fucks people up too. Yeah. Exactly. Because of sleep too. Yeah, and it's one thing for one person to have a couple drinks, but if literally everybody in the city
Starting point is 00:21:33 has had a couple drinks and is driving around, then shit gets a little bit more dangerous. Then you just throw a block party at that point. Right, exactly. Just stop and hang. Yeah. So, yeah, just be safe out there, guys. Go get your slurpees, your free slur point. Right, exactly. Just stop and hang. Yeah. So, yeah, just be safe out there, guys. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Go get your Slurpees, your free Slurpees. Oh my goodness. I am... Thank you for the reminder. I am, yeah. That's what we're here for. Honestly,
Starting point is 00:21:55 the people who are hearing this now, it's probably too late. But actually, if you're listening now, you probably, 7-Eleven is 24 hours, so get your ass to Home Depot, get one of those orange buckets,
Starting point is 00:22:03 get two of them, and fill them the fuck up. The ones that plumbers use for leaking toilets? Yes, I used to do that in college, and the dude hated me. Because my friend's like, dude, you're not going to do that. And I'm like, watch how shameless I can be to a faceless corporation. But yeah, you were saying, Miles, that crime also statistically goes up. They say, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:23 I mean, I've read mixed things some people say that like it's a hazy connection but a lot of a lot of people do see that there is an uptick in more like violent crime uh with heat waves yeah but i don't know if it's yeah if it's uh sorry yeah emily blunt's over here man tell you what yeah but yeah it could uh as it gets hotter i mean it people just you know they're outside more they're a little more bothered it's people just become a little more agitated and stressed um so yeah i wonder how much of that is sleep too that like people are just you know you have less willpower the more tired you are less resistance to urges like i'm
Starting point is 00:23:01 worse at like watching what i eat the later in the day it is, the more tired I am. So if you're starting the day out, like sleep deprived. If you're sleep deprived and tired, I mean, imagine doing any kind of like project, like manual labor in the heat, like building something. Right. Like I've been doing. And I will, it'll be so hot that I will just end up,
Starting point is 00:23:20 it'll end up looking like the birdhouse Homer made in The Simpsons where I'm just like, fuck it. It's done. And I can't, because I don't have the willpower to endure the heat and do it properly. It just sort of puts you in a much more stressed out, like you just don't have patience. And as I was rotting away in my home without AC over the weekend, I had the will to do nothing. So in a way, it made me less of a participant in society. There you go.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Maybe we need adult summer breaks. Maybe jobs should just start building that in. Seriously. Well, like in New York, when I worked at Condé Nast,
Starting point is 00:23:51 it's like a New York-based company, they had like summer Fridays where they're like, hey, because they want to give their employees time to get the fuck out of the city to at least enjoy the weekend
Starting point is 00:23:59 rather than just staying in town or whatever. So I proposed that we have summer Fridays. That's how other countries tend to work too. Really? Well, I feel like they get so much more vacation. Oh, yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Like during really hot weeks, it's like everybody's on holiday. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen like German travelers being like, oh, you have to take at least three weeks off to fully enjoy Colorado. Right. And you're like, wait, so you get you've been working at your company for seven years to accrue three weeks off. Right. Like, no, I just got hired. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months.
Starting point is 00:25:02 These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman.
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Starting point is 00:27:42 or wherever you get your podcasts. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County rebels with the image of...
Starting point is 00:28:07 It's right here in black and white in print. A lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch is a leader. You choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team? I'd just take all the other stuff out of it.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Segregation academies. When the civil rights said that we need to be the losing team? I'd just take all the other stuff out of it. Segregation academies. When the civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools, these charter schools were exempt from that. Bigger than a flag or mascot. You have to be ready for serious backlash. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back.
Starting point is 00:28:53 And so a quick update. Kimberly Guilfoyle of Fox News, one of the five, is that what they're called? The something five? The five? No, it's the four horsemen of the apocalypse. Oh, right, right. My bad. She is dating Donald Trump Jr. CNN was asking if this is a conflict of interest, which would be a valid question in any other version of the universe.
Starting point is 00:29:18 But it seems almost hilarious in this age when Fox like so completely in the tank for the Trump administration. Also, come on, CNN. Is this a problem? Like asking it like that? No. Just come out with it. Right. That's the other thing where I don't understand why some of these other outlets like want to dance around the idea that Fox just isn't this like total mouthpiece of the RNC GOP.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Like why even pretend that they're not they're they're pretending that they're objective but you know to everyone else like you guys are hacks so they should just call it what it is and like yes they're now they're literally in bed with the trump family and now they're literally in the white house in the form of bill shine with x fox news, like, I don't know. Yeah. Is it? Yeah, even asking if it's a conflict of interest suggests that they're still objective journalists or, like, even aiming for that.
Starting point is 00:30:15 And there are some there. You know, like, Shep Smith comes through every now and then. You're like, oh, look at you, Shep. But, like, for the most part, like, they're big. They're main shows. I'd say 40% of their on-air talent behaves as though they're either already related to the Trump administration or actively having sex with the president. Sean Hannity, it has been noted, fills the position of a presidential advisor and spouse because he has his decompression conversations with him at the end of the day. Oh, I thought you meant really a spouse.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Oh, man. I was terrified for a second. Where are you, Sean? You're late for dinner. Don't keep me waiting. The food's getting cold. Yeah. It's been extra chilling going online
Starting point is 00:31:02 and seeing occasionally there are just clips of a Fox show where the person on the show just starts speaking directly to camera because they know the president's watching. Right. And they just say, hey, Mr. President, I know you're seeing this. It's a good idea. Right. And then straight back to the thing. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:14 And it's like, oh, right. Hell, this is it. Cool. Yeah. Cool. Great. Got it. Got it.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Well, wow. This channel isn't even for people. It's just to talk to the president. Right. And the other ones are like, we have to be news unlike them. And so they just ask things that are objective. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Is that strange when they address the camera? Is it strange that these Republicans went to Russia and then came back and were like, nah, Russia's be cool, be chill. No threat.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Nothing. Don't worry about midterms. So let's talk about that. Trump this morning had a very, you know, temperamental breakfast, which is something we're all familiar with. Yes. If you have children, sometimes they're a little grumpy. They wake up on the wrong side of bed, start flinging their food about.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Trump at his diplomatic breakfast with NATO, with our allies, just started talking open shit to Germany. But it was a pretty well-reasoned argument. Let's listen. But Germany is totally controlled by Russia, because they were getting from 60 to 70 percent of their energy from Russia and a new pipeline. And you tell me if that's appropriate, because I think it's not. And I think it's a very bad thing for NATO, and I don't think it should have happened. And I think we have to talk to Germany about it. On top of that, Germany is just paying a little bit over 1 percent, whereas the United States in actual numbers is paying 4.2 percent of a much larger GDP.
Starting point is 00:32:40 So I think that's inappropriate also. You know, we're protecting Germany, we're protecting France, we're protecting everybody, and yet we're paying a lot of money to protect. Now, this has been going on for decades. This has been brought up by other presidents, but other presidents never did anything about it because I don't think they understood it or they just didn't want to get involved. But I have to bring it up because I think it's very unfair to our country, it's very unfair to our taxpayers. It's very unfair to our taxpayers.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Germany is a captive of Russia because they supply. They got rid of their coal plants. They got rid of their nuclear. They're getting so much of the oil and gas from Russia. I think it's something that NATO has to look at. I think it's very inappropriate. You and I agree that it's inappropriate. I don't know what you can do about it.
Starting point is 00:33:22 He's talking to himself. You and I. It makes sense that they bring billions of dollars to Russia, and now we have to defend them against Russia. Okay, asshole, what are you saying? Oh, they're controlled by Russia. First, look in the fucking mirror, my man. I think that's where this is coming from, right?
Starting point is 00:33:40 Of course. Just take the thing that's true about you and be like, no, you're Russia. Yeah, and that's not a NATO concern, who their energy trading partners are. We get so much energy from Canada. We're not controlled by Canada, are we? By that logic, right? If it's about energy being traded. If we are, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:34:00 No, if it was, we'd be a lot better. We'd be a lot better off, I think. At the very least, we'd take basic care of our people. Yeah, that just rings so hollow. I don't know why he went there to come at Germany full throat. I mean, unless this is a prelude to him trying to justify pulling troops, our troops out of Germany or whatever. But, you know, this whole idea of like, you know, we're paying four point four percent or four point whatever the figure was of our GDP, like the whole idea that when he keeps talking about NATO not paying what they should be,
Starting point is 00:34:34 is this agreement that Obama brokered that it's like, look, by 2024, all the member nations will be spending two percent of their GDP on defense because collectively when NATO comes together, that means, okay, everybody's invested in their own defense capability. So when NATO has come together, like, okay, you bring your trucks, you bring your planes, you got that. Good. Everybody. So we don't have to. So you're saying that a former president actually did something about it? Yeah, he did.
Starting point is 00:34:59 And the deadline is in 2024. And most countries are on track to reach that. I think the UK has already hit their 2% goal or whatever. And also, it's not fair to compare what we spend on defense because we have. Have you heard of the military industrial complex, my man? Like we're out here trying to spend as much money as possible on defense to keep these companies rich. And of course, you're going to demand other people spend more too because that's good business for a lot of American companies too
Starting point is 00:35:27 at the end of the day. Right. So it's just so lame, like trying to blow NATO up right before he has to meet with Putin too. It seems like scripted. He has to go in there and be like, let me try and shake this alliance up as much as possible. Come on, my man.
Starting point is 00:35:43 It's not going to happen. Yeah, he's got to knock out a big project before his performance review. Right. That's how it goes. You've got to bring that into the media. Yeah, and Putin's like, well, you signed that agreement, though. I know, but I had to. I had to.
Starting point is 00:35:56 I'm sorry. So he did, after this, sign a bill condemning the annexation of Crimea or a joint statement with NATO. So presumably because he knew he was going to have to do that, he had like a little temper tantrum ahead of time to be like, I don't really like these guys,
Starting point is 00:36:14 just so you know. Right. I may be sitting with them now, but we're not friends, bloody, bloody poots. Yeah, it's, he fails to like realize how important NATO is right I mean like
Starting point is 00:36:26 World War two happened because like we didn't get our shit together after World War one and also this kind of shit speaking of World Wars one and two there's a reason that Germany doesn't have a standing army like that we're all very happy with them not having a standing army like and relying on us for military support but yeah that again not every president can have the complex intellect well they have an army right since right but not 1950 in the 50s right there they rely on us to yeah of course a large and also they pay they pay to have our soldiers on their land like a lot of these bases in europe like which is really america's first
Starting point is 00:37:05 line of defense over there already right if what so now we're gonna foot because that's another thing it's not like we're gonna start paying to keep these bases operating over there like a lot of these host countries where the bases are they pay a good share of like of having those soldiers there so we're gonna you know, the math of it all is, he doesn't get math, he doesn't get NATO, he doesn't get alliances, he doesn't get friendship,
Starting point is 00:37:32 he doesn't get basic fucking. He gets conflict. He wants conflict, he wants things that he doesn't have and he doesn't give a shit about the things that he actually has. That was a, there was some really good analysis from Mike Peska on this from a slate
Starting point is 00:37:45 where he was just saying that like you know all you have to understand is that he wants the things he doesn't have and like actively despises the things he does have which is like you can say that you can look at his marriages and see that but you can also look at all of his policies like the actual trade partnerships that are working well for America. He just shits on them. But like, you know, and also when it comes to power, like the leaders who have his sort of power, which is like democratically elected, he doesn't respect them. But strong men who have powers that he can't have, he like gets horny for them. Right.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Yeah. It's all very interesting. It's all part of the whole cult of Trump. Yeah. So this is an interesting question. Bob Corker of Tennessee raised the question. He was like, we're in a strange place. I mean, it's becoming a cultish thing, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:38:39 And it's not a good place for any party to end up with a cult-like situation as it relates to a president that happens to be of purportedly the same party now that's an actual quote that's that's bob corker who is a democrat no no republican oh a republican weird but who well and also only found his backbone once he retires right he's retiring so he's no longer afraid of his base. And so he now feels free to say what he sees going on in front of him. But also not do anything about it either, though. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:15 He's a funny character, that one. Yeah. So, yeah, I still don't know why these guys run. Like, why do they even want to... I feel like I would want to be in Congress to make some kind of decisions about something at some point. And these guys just seem to want to have like a place in Georgetown and some sort of car that drives them around. Yeah. And that's about it, I guess. I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:39:34 That's why it's Hollywood for ugly people. Whereas like in Hollywood, you get a role to be relevant. In D.C., you get an office. And then from that point, once you get on, you do whatever it takes to stay relevant. And in the case of Capitol Hill, it's to stay in office. And that's how you stay relevant. In Hollywood, it's take whatever gig you can get, man. Do reality, whatever. We got to get this money flowing in. So yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Now, Donald Trump Jr. did have a very well thought through rebuttal to that criticism. He said, if it's a cult, it's because they like what my father's doing. So he's just basically being like, well, if it's a cult, it's because they love him so much. That's why Scientology is good, because L. Ron Hubbard deserves all of the adulation. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, there's all sorts of details that kind of line up. And, you know, legions of worshipers who wear uniforms with, like, the red hats.
Starting point is 00:40:32 He puts paintings and photos of himself, like, everywhere. Stripped of context, Maga sounds kind of like a giant lizard overlord. But, yeah, according to Dr. Janja Lalek, who is the director of the Center for Research on Influence and Control, she's a professor emerata of sociology at California State University, Chico. She says, basically, there are four characteristics of totalistic cults, and they are they espouse an all-encompassing belief system exhibit excessive devotion to the leader avoid criticism of the group and its leader and feel disdain for non-members there's also a bunch of like weird parallels with trump and l ron hubbard if you actually look at it in addition
Starting point is 00:41:20 to them being like weird gingers who feel like they are God's gift to all women. He was always like bragging about like just completely made up things and seemed to have like just lack any shame about just being like, yeah, I was one of the greatest naval officers of all time. And they're like, dude, you failed out of the military because you like refused to do anything and just like sat in the infirmary. Oh, and he really was trying to, he puffed his chest up like, I am the naval gift of the gods.
Starting point is 00:41:50 He claimed to be one of the greatest nuclear physicists, geniuses of nuclear physics, and had just read a single book on it. Right. Yeah, so it's all just like when you read that book Going Clear, book on it. Yeah. So it's all just like when you read that book Going Clear, like the stuff about Hubbard really kind of rhymes with a lot of the behaviors you see from the president. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Yeah. I mean, Trump University was almost Scientology, right? Yeah. It was just kind of the same approach to an organization. Yeah. Where you just take people's money. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:20 And promise them the world. Yeah. Yeah. You pay me now and then later on you will be delivered from all of your worldly troubles and get untold riches. Work for free for me now, and I will get rid of your insecurities. Or whatever they promise at the celebrity centers down the street. Yeah. They both released books on how to improve yourself.
Starting point is 00:42:40 They both scapegoated the one industry that could like clearly expose that they were full of shit uh with l ron hubbard was like you know psychiatry is evil because he wrote a book that like claimed to have all these rules for psychiatry and psychiatrists were like no that's not how human behavior works oh it is at all wait till i tell my brainwashed freaks. Right. And he was like, you're a suppressive person. With Trump, it's the media, obviously. Just everything is a lie. There's even David Miscavige, who was the leader of Scientology for the past number of years, is always lying about crowd sizes. And when you look at Scientology's membership it's actually a really small organization but they just like make a point of always making it seem like oh we're like huge
Starting point is 00:43:31 we're basically the new Christianity and it's like no you're like a weird little club yeah but not that many we're the new Christianity right after Christ died right and those few apostles became christian five of us right now yeah i mean it is that same thing of like because trump definitely promised the world to vulnerable people in his campaign you know what i mean and promised to right the wrongs of the world to be like you can trust me i got you and then he up and does the opposite yeah but if you're willing to just be like purely cynical about human behavior, you can get a long way just being like, yes, I will solve all of your problems. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:11 There's also the connection that the Trump Organization, you know, his little charity that was just a front for taking money from people. The Trump Organization only donated to one 9-11 charity in the aftermath of September 11th. So the firefighters? Yeah, they donated $1,000. Oh, wow. Buckle up. Huge money.
Starting point is 00:44:34 With three zeros? Yes. Let me count them. Yep. Three zeros. Well, five if you count after the decimal point. He donated this money to the, quote, New York Rescue Workers Detoxification Project. Now that detoxification word is a little,
Starting point is 00:44:50 hmm, what might that mean? It was a clinic co-founded by one Tom Cruise in which rescue workers were treated with L. Ron Hubbard's pseudoscientific book Clear Mind, Clear Body. Like what, they just put the book on them? No, they would put them in saunas to try and cure their breathing troubles. And the problem was actually that they were breathing poison all day
Starting point is 00:45:15 because Rudy Giuliani refused to clear out Ground Zero and was just like, no, we're going to keep people down here because it's good photo ops. And, you know, all these people ended up getting horrible cardiovascular, you know, diseases from their work at Ground Zero because he essentially lied to people, Rudy Giuliani. Project got a hold of these firefighters, they would, when doctors weren't around, stick a firefighter in a sauna, which led to them having even more trouble breathing. Wow. Because it's hard to breathe super hot, dry air. And also, it's not fucking science.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Right. I had no idea. That's incredible. Yeah. So there's all sorts of weird connections. How did he get duped into giving money to that charity? Well, the one thing he respects is celebrity, right? And fame.
Starting point is 00:46:12 So you think Tom Cruise is like, hey, man, you should give money to me for like, give me a thousand bucks. Like a thousand dollars is nothing. Yeah. Yeah. I'm also a little bit surprised he gave any money at all because he just doesn't. He just laughs by the sound. Right. He generally doesn't. Yeah. Or asked another organization for money and then was like money at all because he just doesn't. He just lost by the sun. He generally doesn't.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Yeah. Or asked another organization for money and then was like, oh, here's your half a million dollars that I got from this other person. But it's from me. The check is from me. Money's from this other person. Right. There's also, and L. Ron Hubbard has Tom Cruise kind of indirectly.
Starting point is 00:46:38 And then so Donald Trump has Tom Brady, maybe? Is that his cruise? Is that his guy? Oh, yeah. Is that his? Yeah. We'll see if like- Famous Tom? Yeah. If there's any trouble in Brazil, I mean, there is, but like he could help. Is Tom Brady, maybe? Is that his crew? Is that his guy? Oh, yeah. Is that his? We'll see if there's any trouble in Brazil. I mean, there is, but he could help.
Starting point is 00:46:54 I wonder if Tom Brady would be like, on behalf of me and Gisele, Mr. President, could you do something? We'll see. We will, unfortunately. All right. We're going to take another quick break. We'll be right back. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months.
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Starting point is 00:49:14 where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? I mean, the Boone County rebels will stay the Boone County rebels with the image of the biscuits. It's right here in black and white in print. They lying. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch. As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team? As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team?
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Starting point is 00:50:55 Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And there's some news coming out of one of our shithole countries. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:24 A shithole that is of France and the U.S.'s creation, basically, and a lot of the Western world, but namely France and the U.S. In Haiti, I don't know if anyone's seen the news. I don't know if you guys have seen this. Over the weeks. You guys see this? You guys hear about this in Haiti? Haiti basically erupted into violence over the weekend once the government announced a price hike of around like 38%, somewhere between 38% and 51% in some areas on fuel. And this is in a country where gas is like $4 a gallon already there, and people are living off around $3 per day.
Starting point is 00:51:52 So you do the math when there's a fuel hike. These people are eventually at a breaking point. And yes, it turned into huge demonstrations and protests and people blockading the streets and stuff. huge demonstrations and protests and people blockading the streets and stuff. But I just wanted to like bring people's attention to Haiti and sort of understanding again, because just sort of like when we were talking about MS-13, I kind of briefly touched on the U.S.'s hand in El Salvador and things like that. And it's important to know what the U.S.'s history is in Haiti as well. You know, Haiti is a very unique nation in that it was the first nation to be started by former slaves who basically took back their own freedom from the slave owners. So after, you know, being inspired by the writings of like Thomas Paine and the French and American revolutions to Sainte-Lovretour, he led a slave rebellion to take control of the island from the French.
Starting point is 00:52:39 And he did successfully. And he did successfully in France because they wanted like their very own colony, you know, paradise for white people. They sent Napoleon to go fucking take the island back. And he failed. And America defended them, right? Because it was based on their ideals. So they were super great. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:58 No, my goodness. Southern plantation owners were like, don't let this happen here. Don't even tell anybody about that this happened. They were scared that the exact same thing would happen. And so and you can tell in just sort of the way they basically financially ruined Haiti from the beginning. So in just the most it's the manner of fuckery is is on a whole other level. So since the French couldn't take the island back by force, they basically, like within two decades after Haiti gaining independence, they demanded that they get reverse reparations. Basically saying Haiti owes us 150 million francs because all the slave owners lost all that money when the slaves freed themselves.
Starting point is 00:53:41 You owe us that money was the reasoning behind it. Yeah. All those small business owners. Yeah, exactly. And so the U.S. supported these demands and basically was told other countries, like, yo, don't recognize Haiti until they pay all this money back. So Haiti's only option was to basically go along with this extortion scheme by the French. And when they couldn't make payments, they had to borrow.
Starting point is 00:54:03 And French banks were more than happy to give them money. And, you know, really, really fair interest rates, too, and no fees and things like that. And basically put them in a hundred twenty two year period of debt where they basically like, you know, 150 million francs is the equivalent of 21 billion dollars now. By the time Haiti made their last payment in 1947, 1947 was their last payment, they were basically paying that money to a U.S. bank that bought all their debt from the French. Now you might say, what bank is this? Well, at the time it was called the City Bank of New York, and it was founded by Moses Taylor, who made lots of money smuggling slaves into Cuba when slavery was outlawed in the United States or the slave trade was outlawed. That's where this man made all his money. This bank is
Starting point is 00:54:50 now called Citigroup or Citibank. Just so you know where all that money, if you bank with them, read up on their history because I don't know if, like most of Wall Street, was built on a lot of slave trading. So basically, the fact is, this whole scheme of paying back these reparations put Haiti in a very impossible situation to get on their feet. And a lot of times, like, well, look at all the corruption over there and blah, blah, blah. This was by design to keep the country from developing. And that gives way to things like governmental corruption and things like that. So when you attack these countries or look over there and be like, oh, I don't understand what happened, you have to look a little bit further back and say,
Starting point is 00:55:27 this was a country that was basically made an example for taking their own freedom back from their oppressors. And they were punished basically financially from the beginning. So I just wanted to bring people's eyes to that because as this unrest is going on and Haiti could become another group of immigrants that need to come into this country, even though in the 90s we were really not kind to them, I just think it's important to know what the historical sort of context is
Starting point is 00:55:56 for a lot of this unrest. And this is just sort of like, it's the most ironic thing. It's like their whole thing, they freed themselves from slavery, and then the French came and said, you got to pay us back for all y'all freed yourselves. Well, that's here's your bill for freeing yourselves. The modern equivalent of $21 billion. Yes, exactly. Is what they were
Starting point is 00:56:15 forced to pay back as a just completely starting from scratch country. Yeah. It's to city bank. Yeah. Like I think 80% of their revenue at times was being just going straight to service their debt. Right. So it's hard to create any infrastructure or invest in your people when you start off basically in debt. It's like being a college kid now where you're like, hey, man, why aren't you doing better? It's like because I have all this college debt that I got into. Of course, it's going to be hard for me to start establishing things when all of my money is going to servicing my debt. Now, put that in the context of some countries, and you're looking at this kind of unrest.
Starting point is 00:56:49 So, guys, just read up a little bit. And I just want to point that out because it's a really terrible situation over there. And this is kind of how things move in this country and other countries. So, yeah. Yeah, any Americans judging Haiti or Haitians is bonkers. It just doesn't make any sense. Yeah, if you look at it, yeah, like when you really read into it, it So, yeah. Yeah. Any Americans judging Haiti or Haitians is bonkers. It just doesn't make any sense. Yeah. If you look at, yeah, like when you really read into it, it's, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:09 They haven't like Googled history. They haven't, like the U.S. military occupied Haiti for 20 years. Yeah. And then we propped up Papa Dr. Vallier, who's terrible. And it's our fault, basically. Yeah. So if it's a mess, it's our fault plus an earthquake. Like it's not anything they did or anything they yeah it's uh yeah and just to know just kind of like god like it's the irony
Starting point is 00:57:31 of a bank that makes its fortunes off of illegal slave trade then buys the debt up from a country that like freed itself from slavery it's like oh god anyway so that's a quick history check-in this episode brought to you by city bank yeah the new city bank mastercard no uh all right guys it's time for a little check-in with the world oh sports it's time for world cup date oh what's that oh there it is where's my glow stick where's my glow stick oh jack whoa finger tutting over there wow got the light up led finger gloves uh yes so the world cup uh right now england and croatia are playing in the other semi-final uh and they will face france who beat belgium yesterday uh and now this could be of i don't know what's happening and you know as we record the game is happening but i just
Starting point is 00:58:24 want to point out that either way like i to me i think the final will be france and england and even if it isn't uh the winner is nike and i'll get to that in a second but uh when you look at just sort of the diversity on these squads right now like belgium france and england are great examples of the diversity in these european countries contributing to like hey look at that you uh you welcome your populate your immigrant population to participate in your national team sport, and you're much stronger for it. For France, 12 of their 23 players on the squad are of African descent. And England, they've incrementally become more and more diverse, but now they're at 11 of their 23 players being black or mixed. And even people like Harry Kane, he's Irish.
Starting point is 00:59:06 He comes from Irish lineage. So there is a lot of diversity going on in the World Cup. But like I said, no matter what, no matter who wins these semifinals or the final, the winner is Nike. Because at this point, it is going to be a Nike-sponsored team versus a Nike-sponsored team. And that's what we call visibility. Adidas has pretty much a stranglehold in terms of the branding of the World Cup since I think the 70s, and I think their contract runs into like 2030 or something.
Starting point is 00:59:36 So the balls are obviously Adidas. You see all their graphics around that, like signboards around the pitch. A majority of teams in the tournament are Adidas-sponsored teams, but now it's Nike. They're down in there. It's going to be two Nike teams and some of the biggest stars of the tournament, like Harry Kane and Kylian Mbappe, both sponsored by Nike. So yeah, in terms of NASDAQ and stock markets, Nike's a big winner for this World Cup. Yeah. I never thought of it like the way NASCAR kind of works, where it's Ford and Chevy fighting each other. I never thought of it that the way NASCAR kind of works, where it's Ford and Chevy fighting each other. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:06 I never thought of it that way, but yeah, it's Nike making a run. Yeah, and Nike was kind of late to the football game, but now they're in every league, except for the MLS, but they're in most leagues at most levels, and yeah, they're becoming a force to be reckoned with.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Guys, I'm Team Adidas. I think creativity is the answer. Like that ad says. Is that an ad? Yeah, there's this ad. It's like the most cynical fucking ad. You haven't seen that? Where it's like all the Adidas people.
Starting point is 01:00:33 It's like Pharrell and like different- My mind turns off to the messaging because I'm just like, okay, this is a bunch of celebrities. It's so whack. It's like, they're like, creativity is the answer. And they're like kicking the soccer ball and then they start playing volleyball with it. And then everybody starts like jumping rope.
Starting point is 01:00:47 And it's just like the most lit millennial party ever. You know what's so funny? Even when that commercial comes on, I tune out the words. Because then I just started like, oh, cool. I'm like, whoa, who's that in the background? Yeah. Is that James Harden? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:01 It's pretty brutal. Yeah. You guys, Johnny Depp's not doing well. What do you mean? He's, I think, the lead or one of the leads in this new movie, City of Lies, which was written by me when I was 13 and a goth. Yeah. That sounds like such a stock poster behind us in a movie about Hollywood. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Or anywhere. Yeah. D.C., L.A., New York. Never dead. I don't believe in your city of lies. It's actually about the murder of Biggie Smalls in Los Angeles and also with some tie-ins to the murder of Tupac, which those tie together more closely than I even realized. Shout out to last podcast on the left. They just did an episode about
Starting point is 01:01:49 the two murders and what actually happened, and spoiler alert, they're both pretty much solved. But go check that podcast out if you're interested. But the dude is dead, though, right? Yes, they're both. They're both dead, right? Both of the people who pulled the trigger are dead. What's that mean? So, Super anahosnia is shaking her head no they're not dead and i think she's
Starting point is 01:02:09 referring to the fact that tupac is still alive oh yes uh which of course because she claims to be tupac and i still don't believe you johnny depp in this film is playing uh the detective who like put it all together figured it out uh, of course, we need some grizzled old white cop to save the day in this story. I hope he's playing all the guys from last podcast on the left, like an Eddie Murphy kind of role. That would be awesome. Norbit that shit.
Starting point is 01:02:38 But he was apparently on the set of this movie just drunk a lot of the time which as we found out he's spending you know hundreds of thousands of dollars on wine every month there was a profile of him that we went over in Rolling Stone last week or the week before that was truly bleak and just almost like it was, he is the physical embodiment of the corrupting influence of fame in Hollywood. He's literally like turning into a vampire. Like he doesn't come out during the daylight
Starting point is 01:03:14 and is drunk and stoned at all times and just cracking himself up while his bodyguards and professional chef are just like, you're the man, Johnny. And anyways. That sounds like the movie. Right. That's the story you tell.
Starting point is 01:03:31 That's the movie. Yeah. But anyways, they were filming and a location scout tried to shut down the shooting because they weren't permitted to go any later. He had already extended the shoot by an hour. The director was like, yeah, why don't you try and tell Johnny Depp that we're not going to shoot because he's crazy and presumably wasted.
Starting point is 01:03:55 So the location chief then went over to a cop and was like, hey, I don't want to fuck with Johnny Depp. He's crazy, but can we shut this down? Johnny Depp overheard and just ran up and started beating the guy and screaming at him, punched him in the ribs a couple times, and then offered him $100,000 to punch him back. Like, here, here's $100,000. Punch me back, man.
Starting point is 01:04:20 What, did he go to the four-year-old school of fucking mediation? That's like the shit you do when you're a kid where you accidentally make your little cousin cry. And you're like, okay, hit me, hit me, hit me. And then it's all good. It's all good. Shut the fuck up. Don't tell my mom. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:37 Also, there are emerging details about LeSean McCoy that we'll probably get into another day. But there might be some serious Benghazi shit going on with that dude. But we'll update that at a later time when more of the details are official. Drake has broken a Beatles record. He now has seven top ten songs at the same time. I think the Beatles record was five, and he now has seven of the top 10 songs. Take that, Paul.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Yeah. I mean. This raises a question. Going into this culture, once we saw that streaming was happening, I think the assumption was that our music tastes and music success was going to become more fragmented and niche because everybody can just get whatever music they want at the drop of a hat. And, you know, I think people assumed similar stuff about businesses,
Starting point is 01:05:38 like small websites could succeed or small, you know, businesses could succeed by throwing their business up on eBay. And instead, we're trending toward a world where Facebook, Google, and Amazon and Apple own everything and everyone listens to the same music. It's weird that a lack of barriers to entry make it so that everyone is all about the same stuff. Yeah. I mean, to me, I know a lot of people are like, does this mean that Drake is bigger than the Beatles? No, I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:06:13 I think Drake is in an era where the nature of the music business and how the charts work benefit him greatly. Because even when you look at the songs that are on here, like Nice For What, Non-op, God's Plan, In My Feelings, I'm Upset, Emotionless, Don't Matter To Me those aren't even the best Drake songs from his catalog. They're not even the
Starting point is 01:06:33 best songs on that album. I'm Upset is the worst song on that album. But it's just he released it first as a single and it has a Degrassi video and so everybody's like, oh, it's cool. Right and then part of what people don't realize is like streams count like towards the billboard charts too
Starting point is 01:06:49 and that can come from YouTube or whatever so you have a video that's like a Degrassi reunion and a lot of people start watching it that's gonna help the fucking chart performance. You should be embarrassed that I'm Upset is on there because like if Weird Al was to make a song parodying Drake like I feel like it would be called I'm Upset is on there because if Weird Al was to make a song parodying Drake,
Starting point is 01:07:06 I feel like it would be called I'm Upset. It would be a sensitive guy rapping about how his feelings are hurt about stuff. What do you think, Alex? It does seem like the Beatles were in an era where they needed to get people excited about the music and I feel like statistically, Drake
Starting point is 01:07:22 can run up all these listens on just the entire planet saying oh there's a new Drake album and like listen to it at least once and then that does it that's all it takes like yeah yeah the Beatles are like Michael Jordan like they're they're the best even if people with objectively bigger stats come along they're just the best oh that's it okay so you're taking shots at LeBron right now I like him a lot and I like Jordan more but more. But I was raised on it. You know, it's my way. Are you from Chicago? You said that very diplomatically, like you and LeBron
Starting point is 01:07:50 are tight outside of recording. He almost went to my Blaze Pizza. It was very exciting. Oh, yeah. I was looking at the pictures of people lined up and I was like, that's my bank there. What? Yeah. So he didn't show up? He didn't show up, though.
Starting point is 01:08:05 Of course. That must have made him feel good, though. Just responding to a tweet with emojis and people like, LeBron might be there. Yeah. It would be stunning if he went to that blaze. It's not even freestanding.
Starting point is 01:08:15 It's surrounded by stuff. Anyway. What are the five Beatles songs that were in the top five? The top five are, now brace yourself, you may have never heard of these songs and they probably haven't been played since.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Can't Buy Me Love. I've never heard of that. Twist and Shoot. Shout. Shout. Shout. She Loves You. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:33 I Want to Hold Your Hand. Okay. And Please Please Me. Okay. Never heard of any of those songs. Yeah. So, in a way, I think Drake, you could flex up on the Beatles. Right.
Starting point is 01:08:47 And these are songs that were recorded and released years before any of us were born. Do we think that kids who are born 10, 15 years from now will be making those same jokes about, I'm upset, the all-time classic yeah the Degrassi reunion video right nobody gives a shit you're like my they're like I got you know I wanted to do my first dance at my wedding to my dad's favorite song nice for what that's what I did I like nice for what come on I mean that's a fun song what I'm saying is like even for Drake like those are some great Beatles songs you know and these are kind of like ones that I would be like yeah I mean that's that's those are some great Beatles songs, you know, and these are kind of like ones that I would be like, yeah, I mean, that's, that's,
Starting point is 01:09:25 those are some, there's, they're okay Drake songs, but yeah, I guess Drake is like, sort of like the iPhone of artists, you know, like a lot of people love it because like,
Starting point is 01:09:33 it's just cool to have. And if you're really passive about it, you can just kind of gravitate towards it because it's so popular. Yeah. Yeah. Not to say that I don't fuck with Drake. I mean, I like some of his songs.
Starting point is 01:09:43 So, I mean, ultimately, uh, I think you asked, is Drake bigger than the Beatles? But what do we mean? Is he better?
Starting point is 01:09:51 Is he bigger? Do more people know him? Right. Like the population of the world is currently 7.6 billion back around the time that the Beatles were making music. It was like 3.1. So maybe more people know about him on a per capita basis. That would be really interesting.
Starting point is 01:10:10 That'd be, yeah, somebody needs to do that study. Hey, who's in the Zeitgang, if you're a statistician or just numerologically adept, that doesn't make any sense. Yeah, don't use numerology. Math math. Yeah, well, no, I like numerology. sense but yeah don't use numerology math yeah well no i like numerology if uh if you fuck with terryology uh terrence howard's math philosophy uh let us know how that works but yeah i wonder like how what would the metric be like if we take into account population growth like have heard
Starting point is 01:10:36 a drake song or have like intentionally played a drake song how about that okay but there's there is there any way to know who knows knows? Yeah. And be sure to wait it for how cool of outfits the Beatles fans were wearing. They were either in Mad Men suits or very flowery pants. That's pretty cool. Waited for coolness of outfit. But yeah, I mean just based on the fact that
Starting point is 01:10:58 technology is so much better at delivering culture around the world. I feel like maybe Drake has the edge. All the way from whether he's- Six, six, six to- Relivable. Somebody needs to also do the gray album for this Drake album now that this conversation-
Starting point is 01:11:17 Yeah, but this album isn't on the level of the black album. Certainly is not. So I don't think we need that yet. It's way above it. Didn't you just hear the conversation we just had? Yeah, right. It's the greatest album of all time. Because a lot of those Drake songs are songs that I think are not as good as their videos.
Starting point is 01:11:33 Like God's plan, the video is just such a thing, you know? And then the song is like, fine, it's okay. But so he has that video advantage where you can just be like, oh, there's a new Drake video. Just pull it up, you know? So the video is where he goes around giving money out to people yeah right right yeah well and even even the nice for what video is even better than that good song you know right it's great yeah yeah no that's a really good point um yeah i guess it's just everybody has, when you think about the difference between now and even eight years ago, like when you're standing in line, everybody's looking at their phone. So everybody just has these culture delivery mechanisms just like hooked to their eyeballs at all times.
Starting point is 01:12:17 And so maybe this is just like the culture and the people who, you know, do media are getting that much more sophisticated. Right. And so that's why they're able to like capture us with whatever big event they want to. Because, I mean, you can just passively chart like especially with Drake, like because the way Spotify and Apple Music where all these streaming services have these playlists that you can just be like, oh, let me put this playlist on passively. And boom, you've racked up 50 Drake spins in one thing that contribute to the chart performance. I think there's also something with us. Because we're all on our phones, we lack human interaction, and so we crave these shared experiences of the In My Feelings dance challenge and stuff like that which I know people are like the internet already ruined in my feelings but I think that dance
Starting point is 01:13:08 challenge only enhances in my feelings guys stay tuned for Jack's in my feelings challenge video it's going to be amazing he blew his knee out trying to do the shoot dance and that's gonna do it for today Alex
Starting point is 01:13:24 it's been a goddamn pleasure having you man thank you so much it's always good yeah where can people find you and follow you and what is a tweet
Starting point is 01:13:31 that you've been enjoying oh I don't know why I keep coming back to this tweet but it's somebody took the Wild Thoughts music video with Rihanna
Starting point is 01:13:41 and then they swapped in Waluigi noises for the like, wah part of it. Yeah. And it's a good song. I don't, I'm not like trying to make fun of the song or anything,
Starting point is 01:13:49 but it really, really works. Wow. It's great. Yeah. Wow. Uh, I don't know why I like it so much.
Starting point is 01:13:55 And, uh, yeah. And then my website's alexchmitty.com. I'm on the cracked podcast. And, if you're in LA, I'm doing standup on Sunday at the clubhouse.
Starting point is 01:14:03 Awesome. Nice. Nice. Nice. Miles, where can people find you? You can find me. Follow me. Contribute to my ego on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey. And a tweet that I like.
Starting point is 01:14:16 I think that's the next part we do. This comes because we're talking about the Sacha Baron Cohen thing. This is actually from Demi Adijuibay, who was on our show a few weeks ago. He was tweeting a link to the trailer for the new Sasha Baron Cohen show, and he said, I worked for a little bit as a creative consultant on the development of this show.
Starting point is 01:14:33 I haven't seen the final result, but all the parts you like were my idea, and all the parts you hate were someone else. Enjoy! That's amazing that he worked on that. Always undercover. Tweet I've been enjoying, Chris Fleming,
Starting point is 01:14:45 at Chris Fluming on Twitter, said, love when the internet's down and Gmail says, something's not right. Like a dinosaur hunter. And you can follow me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.
Starting point is 01:14:57 You can follow us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song that we ride out on miles. What song am I gonna sing? Today's ride out song is coming to us from super producer Anna Hosnier. Anna, what do you got? Hi. Hi.
Starting point is 01:15:24 So, I don't know if you guys remember that song Fuck It I Don't Want You Back by Iman Yeah it's a classic But anyway I've been listening to his new album Because guess what he's back and he's in love again And so I wanted to play this one song That I've been really enjoying by his Because I think he you know
Starting point is 01:15:42 Sometimes you know love brings you down And then it gets you back up 10 years later with a new single. So it's called You and Only You by Iman. I'm probably saying his name wrong, but I love you. You just said that to Miles while locking eyes with him.
Starting point is 01:15:58 Please don't cry. You said that too. All right. Well, we're going to ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Talk to you guys then. Bye.
Starting point is 01:16:08 Bye. Bye. The shame I'm holding on to The habit I desire This long and winding road Left me alone All alone This feeling that I want to dive up This heaven guide The soul and spirit know
Starting point is 01:16:54 The heavenly The heavenly My mind has led me wrong Give me something real Give me something real Some hope is what I long I just wanna feel I just wanna feel
Starting point is 01:17:20 You and only you And you and only you You and only you, and you and only you You and only you, and you and only you You and only you, and you and only you You and only you The guilt that pounds my chest The suffocations like I never get the chance to breathe The tears just run away
Starting point is 01:17:56 I get no relief There's never peace My mind has led me wrong Give me something real Some hope is what I long I just wanna feel I just wanna feel You and only you You and only you, and you and only you
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Starting point is 01:19:14 You and only you and you and only you You and only you I got, I got, I got nothing but you and only you Ain't nobody make me feel the way you do You and only you I woke up this morning with you on my mind You and only you You and only you is all I need to make it through
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