The Daily Zeitgeist - Louis C(old ta)K(es), Twinning App Makes Dystopia Fun 1.3.19
Episode Date: January 3, 2019In episode 301, Jack and special guest host Ever Mainard are joined by comedian Jenny Zigrino to discuss Kanye West and Kim Kardashian expecting baby number four, Kanye's anger at Drake, Louis CK's ne...w problematic comedy set, Popsugar's Twinning app leaking people's photos, Trump's pseudo-press conference, Mitt Romney's op-ed in The Washington Post, what movies predicted about 2019, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Kanye West Slams Drake (Again) for Following Kim Kardashian on Instagram: ‘I Feel a Public Apology in Order’2. Kim Kardashian West is expecting baby No. 4 via surrogate3. Louis C.K. Mocks Parkland School Shooting Survivors in Recent Set4. Yes. Every idiot saying “Uh, this is what Louie’s material has always been like, he’s not doing anything different now” is missing the point.5. Popsugar’s Twinning app was leaking everyone’s uploaded photos6. Trump's chaotic post-midterms press conference – video highlights7. Poll: Iowa Republicans Would Reelect Trump, But They’d Also Welcome a Primary8. Trump’s International Ratings Remain Low, Especially Among Key Allies9. Mitt Romney: The president shapes the public character of the nation. Trump’s character falls short.10. 'They're coming:' Flying cars may appear in urban skies by 202311. Sheep-Human Hybrids Made in Lab—Get the Facts12. 6 THINGS MOVIES PREDICT WILL HAPPEN IN 201913. The 2020 Tokyo Olympics Were Predicted 30 Years Ago by Akira 14. Bob Einstein Dies: ‘Curb Your Enthusiasm’ Actor Who Also Played Super Dave Osborne Was 7615. WATCH: Amber Mark - Lose My Cool (Franc Moody Remix) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello, the Internet, and welcome to Season 63, Episode 2 of Der Daily Zeitgeist,
the podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness using the headlines, box office reports, TV ratings,'s trending on uges and social medias it's thursday january 3rd my name is jack o'brien aka on how stuff works there
is a podcast called daily zeitgeist it's second rate easily forgot if not for jack and miles
uh there's another part of that but we're just gonna cut it off there thank you christopher forgot, if not for Jack and Miles.
There's another part of that, but we're just going to cut it off there.
Thank you, Christopher Lang.
I'm thrilled to be joined
by my special co-host ever,
Maynard!
Hello! Good to be back!
Hey, it's great to have you here.
Thank you so much.
Alright.
I love it. I love it
I love doing podcasts
Yes
Well we are thrilled to be joined
In our third seat
By the hilarious comedian
Jenny Zagrino
Hello
Zeitgang
Zeitgang
Zeitgang
Yeah
It feels bad to say it
It does
Am I saying?
Is it a German word?
It's like, uh-oh.
Zeitgeist.
Zeit.
Yeah.
I lean fully in and just say it like an angry Nazi.
Well, anyways, Jenny.
Yeah.
It's great to have you.
Happy to be here.
Your hair looks great.
I wish our listeners could see.
Oh, thank you.
I got one of those Balazs shoes.
It looks good.
You can tell.
What is that?
Rick Bayless?
Isn't that Littlefinger's name in Game of Thrones?
I got a Baylish, John.
It sounds like a meatloaf.
Right.
Like a meat dish.
What is it?
I don't know how to pronounce it.
It's a hair thing.
A hair thing where it goes dark to light.
I just assumed you had gray hair.
It's not called an ombre, though.
I had a t-shirt that did that.
Yeah.
Gradient.
Is your t-shirt single?
Hey.
Hey, Jenny.
We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment, but first we're going
to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today.
going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today. We're going to check in with Kanye West, see what he spent his holiday break doing. Also, Louis C.K. Also, we're going
to talk about the twinning app that all the kids are talking about. It's all the rage. And we're
going to talk about that wild ass press conference, not really a press conference, sort of televised
meeting that Trump had,
and many, many other things. We're going to be talking really fast today. But first, Jenny,
we'd like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that is revealing about
who you are? Oh, well, I searched flu symptoms for dogs. Oh, no. Can dogs get the flu? Dogs can get the flu. Okay.
Yeah.
Did you know that?
Now you do.
I guess I didn't.
No.
I didn't know until earlier today.
So that's the kind of person I am, just looking up dog symptoms.
Okay.
And you have a dog, I'm assuming?
I do have a dog, but actually I wasn't even looking them up for my dog.
It was for someone else's dog.
Oh, really?
So I'm a caring person.
What are the symptoms of dog flu?
Just sick, stuffy noses. Oh, really? So I'm a caring person. What are the symptoms of dog flu? Um, just sick, stuffy
noses. Oh, really? Do we want
to go over? They're pretty much the same
symptoms. Right. Well, but like, what is a dog
with a stuffy nose? Some people may not know, Jenny.
The dog's gonna shit,
dog's gonna vomit. Dog's gonna
shit either way, though. Yeah. I thought. But like,
a special kind. In my experience, dog's
gonna shit. Do they drool a lot when they have the flu?
Or like, you know?
Like panting?
Well, they can't breathe, so yeah.
Lethargic, they're tired,
they just want to watch Netflix all day.
I think my dog has had the flu
for his entire life then.
What do you have, a pug? No.
I have a cavalier.
Oh, right. A soft dog. have a cavalier. Oh, right.
Soft dog.
Bragging over here.
Uh-huh.
I think you might have heard of him.
He's Cavalier King Charles. Oh, my God.
But he is not energetic.
He's dead?
Yeah, yeah.
But he's 12 years old and mostly, yes.
Jenny, what is something you think is underrated?
Okay, this is very important to me.
I think that back scratches are underrated.
Okay.
Okay?
Because, okay, I really like, thank you, ever.
Appointed.
She pointed at me and we felt it.
The connection, it was vibrant.
Sparks flew from her fingertips.
But at every massage place you go
to, you can always get like
massages or like hot stones
or all this crap, but no one's ever like
back scratching.
And it is the best.
I've gotten to the point where like,
if I'll have a one night stand and I'm not having a good
time, I'll just be like, stop what're doing and scratch scratch my back for like 20 minutes
and they're more weirded out by that request like they're like that's too intimate and i'm like
you're awful yeah just get on the back so you were uh making fun of me for being highfalutin
but then you were referring to humans as back scratchers.
Most of it.
Yes.
I was picturing the handheld device.
No.
You're just like, I have back scratchers.
Yeah.
People who scratch my back.
Well, if I didn't come, then I want a back scratch.
Okay.
That's fair.
That's a fair trade.
It is totally fair, and I love getting my back scratched.
Yeah.
I love to come.
Everyone here loves it.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
That's my favorite part.
That's crazy.
Isn't that part great?
No, I feel like that part's like, you know, it feels selfish.
Right.
It's too much.
I want them to be part of it.
Right.
Yeah, so get those back scratches.
Get that back scratch in.
I just feel like everyone likes their back scratched.
Yeah.
But no one is like, this is an untapped market.
Mm-hmm.
Just, you know.
Dog, we can all be involved. This is an untapped market. Just, you know. Dog.
We can all be involved.
What if, you know, there's like ASMR and that like porn stuff with feet.
What if we did like a back scratch?
Yeah. And really tap into it.
But how can a YouTube channel scratch your back?
Yeah, they just watch.
Oh, you just watch someone scratch their backs.
I don't want to do that.
Back scratching is a very tactile yeah it's fine
you know weird stuff we're friends did you do you want to watch this back scratching compilation i
made that's all my back yeah you were asleep when i did it it already exists I can just already say that it already exists. What is something you think is overrated?
Fast food hip burger chains.
Fast food hip burger chains.
Yeah, so like In-N-Out and Shake Shack.
I think they're highly overrated.
Oh, okay.
In-N-Out has terrible french fries.
They do.
Shake Shack has tiny burgers.
Long lines.
Yeah, long lines for what?
Long lines for what?
That's so funny.
That's how that song goes.
And finally, what is
a myth? What's something people think is true
you know to be false?
If you pee on a
jellyfish sting,
it helps it, it doesn't.
What? People just out here trying to pee
on people.
We could also make those
videos.
Those videos are made.
I just troll beaches looking
for someone who needs to get peed on.
Hey.
You got bit by a jellyfish. No I didn't.
Come here.
Did that happen to you? No.
I don't let people pee on me.
But how do you know it's not true?
Because it's a myth.
No, because they did it on Google.
Oh, do you live your life by friends?
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
It still holds up.
It does not hold up.
It does not.
It does not hold up.
Yeah, that is a myth, and that is a really good question of how that particular myth got started.
Some dude was just like, oh, I know what I'll do.
Uh-huh.
This person's in pain.
I think I'll just pee on him.
Yeah.
That's what I think.
That's how dudes be.
Oh, yeah.
No, no, no.
I read in a book that it helps.
Right, right.
Don't worry about it.
Yeah.
You come in here tomorrow.
Yeah.
You're going to get peed on again.
Uh-huh.
That's what tomorrow? Yeah. You gonna get peed on again? Uh-huh. That's what happened.
Yeah. And I bet
partially it was like someone got
caught peeing on themselves or something.
And that was the
explanation they gave. I think there are
actual things that
you're supposed to pee on.
Is that correct? Maybe they got
confused. Sticks? Sticks.
Sticks. Toicks. What?
Toilets.
Oh, those kind of things. I thought you were saying clever.
A bundle of sticks.
Yeah.
We did that for sport in the South.
We were just like, hey, man, come pee on these.
Yeah.
I feel like that kind of defeats the purpose of gambling.
Well, you start with one stick, and then you see how many sticks you can pee on, and you
just keep...
This is disgusting.
Is someone there feeding the sticks?
It's a family game.
All right, guys.
Let's get into the pressing news that we've been missing out on over our holiday breaks.
How was everybody's holiday, by the way?
Good?
Great?
Fine.
Wonderful?
I had a good time.
Good.
I was not allowing any negative stories there.
I was just like, it was good, right?
Yeah.
I think everyone's here.
Yeah.
Everybody seems relaxed.
Yeah.
Well, Kanye has been volatile, believe it or not.
What?
Stop it.
He's been hot and cold, you would say.
So this is actually a good example of why we stopped doing a segment of the show we used to do called Bloid Watch,
where we would look at the covers of tabloids and talk about, you know, the news contained therein and whether we thought it was true.
Because sometimes tabloids do get
things wrong. But they literally have two baseless claims that they make about celebrities, either
that they're getting divorced or that they're pregnant. And they guessed exactly wrong with
Kim and Kanye, because they've been saying they're getting a divorce for the past year. And it turns out they're intentionally pregnant via a surrogate.
So they're actively family planning when they were supposed to be trying to divorce one another.
But that's big news in the world of Kanye and Kim.
They're getting a surrogate?
Well, I think all their kids have been.
I'm very excited to be carrying their baby.
They all have not been.
I bet you're making a shit ton of money.
Look, touring was fun.
They're like, what's up, Bronnie?
Do you want to carry this baby?
I would be like, yeah, how much?
And then I would be like, do you want me to sign this contract?
I'm going to give it to you.
No, I wouldn't hold a baby hostage.
I would. I'd just go to Canada. Actually, I wouldn't hold a baby hostage. I would.
I'd just go to Canada.
Actually, maybe I could.
Be on the run.
Is that the kind of person we are?
I don't know.
Money changes everything.
Just for fun.
I would do it just for the story.
Just for the bloid.
Just like in 40 years, tell my grandkids, like, yeah.
Your parents are crazy.
Give me a hand.
We're going to talk a little bit later.
I'll run away with that baby.
We're getting off track, OK? Come on. Well, no. We're going to talk a little bit later. I ran away with that baby. We're getting off track, okay?
Come on.
Well, no.
We're going to talk a little bit later about things movies have predicted for 2019.
And I honestly think that that is probably a more, like, for instance, Handmaid's Tale.
You just described Handmaid's Tale, except instead of being hunted by, like, the dystopian government, you're being hunted by kim and kanye isn't that
the same thing yeah basically yeah wait you mean the kardashians isn't a spinoff of the
handmaid's tale right it's very similar in many ways yeah it's the aura boris uh also kanye is
crazy again like he's back off the wagon he claims he loves trump again all day he said uh
and we'll be rocking a mega hat on stage and then he also got mad at drake for following his wife on
instagram even though uh she has 109 million followers on instagram wow uh he said i never
knew till this morning that drake followed my wife on Instagram back in September.
Had to bring this up because it's the most fucked up thing of all.
Imagine having a problem with somebody and they follow your wife on Instagram.
We truly wish this man the best and pray that he will find the same happiness that we have.
What?
Yeah, it's somewhat confusing.
Oh, my God.
I can't wait to be this rich and delusional.
Yeah.
Pajama rich, as he would say.
So they have beef?
Yeah, they have beef.
There was all sorts of...
Drake thought Kanye told Pusha T about his secret child.
I forgot about that.
Yeah.
And they both are acknowledging that it's wrestling stuff and it's all fake.
Like they keep referring to it as like a wrestling feud.
But then like you can tell their feelings are actually hurt by each other.
Yeah.
They should just hug it out.
Yeah.
I will ask, is Drake like a dangerous guy?
Because he talks about it.
He raps about it.
But he seems like the safest of them all.
Yeah. He seems like a college undergrad you know he's like they are not the safest of them all i know especially not at baylor what's up you rapist sorry i just came back from texas so
yeah there's a lot of texas material making its way in here. I'm really angry. They all got away with it.
Anyways, they always do.
Anyways, back to comedy.
Back to comedy.
Back to Drake.
Yeah, I mean, when I see Drake, I'm like, here's a safe man with a beard who acts tough.
But is he dangerous?
It's all an act.
He's got a bubby.
He has a bubby.
Come on.
I feel like Drake has some sense that he doesn't come off.
He's always trying to meet the hardness and anger of rap in some way,
but because he doesn't have anything to be angry about
and he's kind of a soft dude like
he just ends up being like mad about
really stupid shit
he's the dance mom of rap
he's just like real upset
and sensitive
and that's okay to be sensitive
I think it is
we're allowing other people to express their feelings
and be sensitive we have to also
extend it to
rappers right they have feelings too yeah but he does seem to spend a lot of his time in paying
homage to the original values of rap like being like yeah but i have friends who will kill you
so that's makes me tough we all have that right if i was yeah all right drake yeah uh let's talk about lewis ck
getting all the hits today yeah yeah speaking of men getting away with it he just did 49 minutes
of stand-up somebody recorded it uploaded it to youtube and it i don't know. It's not great. It makes fun of non-binary people.
It makes fun of the Parkland kids.
He says that he doesn't think surviving a school shooting
makes you inherently interesting.
But it just, I don't know.
I started listening to it.
I'll listen to the whole thing and report back on tomorrow's episode.
But it does seem like he has taken the like he starts out
talking about what a bad year he had and it seems like he thinks the year happened to him like that
he doesn't he didn't do anything and dana gould former guest dana gould was saying like when
richard pryor came out to do stand-up after you know
lighting himself on fire freebasing he knew he had to like make himself the butt of the joke
and acknowledge his part in the problem that he had just become famous for having and it seems
like Louis CK is instead just like man that was a bad thing that happened to me, huh? And then kind of, and moving on, just trying to,
like some people are defending him as,
oh, this is what his jokes have always been like.
And I think that's kind of the problem
is that like his old material doesn't really work.
That he hasn't evolved at all.
Right, yeah.
I mean, I don't care that he came back to stand up,
but yeah, he's not addressing anything I mean, I don't care that he came back to stand up,
but yeah, he's not addressing anything that we all kind of want him to address.
Right.
Yeah.
And then he says dumb shit.
Right.
Which like when he talked about, you know,
punching a baby deer in the face,
we're just like, oh, that crazy guy.
And now it's like, oh, who are you trying to punch down to?
Right.
I mean, he's always been,
part of his thing has always been being able to get people
to give him the benefit of the doubt via his performance.
That was a large part of,
and then he would say incredibly fucked up things,
but you would just let him because of, I don't know,
his stage presence or whatever.
But now that doesn't work as well when you're revealed
to not deserve the benefit of that doubt, I guess.
Well, it's been revealed that he's not a good person.
Where in the past it'd be like,
oh, you're a normal person that has these thoughts
that some of us always have.
Right.
You're reflecting that.
And now it's like, oh, you're just trash.
And the shit about like,
I have to listen to these Parkland kids.
Like you pushed a fat kid out of the way.
And then just like, what the fuck?
Like that's number one, not even a good joke.
It's not a good joke.
It's open mic stuff.
I was talking to someone about this earlier.
It's kind of like he's just, maybe the left has now been like, bye-bye,
but the right who will probably enjoy those jokes and be like, yeah,
he was wrongly whatever, and now he's talking about stuff I want to talk about.
Yeah.
Go get an audience.
Well, he lost, what, $43 million in 30 minutes or something?
What was that complaint?
Something like that.
That was his first thing, that he lost $35 million in one day.
Yeah, but you masturbated in front of some people that you and I know.
Right.
Yeah.
It wasn't like a bad day on the stock market.
Yeah.
It's like, oh, shit.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, guys, we're going to take a quick break.
We'll be right back.
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questioned of the, would they say this to a man? No, they would not. Like why? That was one of
those moments where you're just like, oh wow. It was a bit shocking, but it didn't take any steam
away or anything like that if anything
it was more of the okay i'll show you no worries listen to the bright side from hello sunshine on
the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and uh the app that's driving everybody crazy this uh week i don't know
uh yeah it's been a long time off guys uh yeah so uh twinning have you guys done the twinning. Have you guys done the twinning app? No.
No.
No.
No, I thought it was like a bad tweet that everybody was trying to mimic.
You know, everybody tries to do a meme.
I didn't realize it was an app.
I just thought my friends were making bad memes.
It's not even an app.
It's a web page.
I'm just mad because they said I looked most like a bachelor, a former bachelor.
Cool.
I look like a former bachelor when not smiling.
When I have glasses on, I look like Rich Sommer from Mad Men.
Notably, we have the exact same glasses.
So that was, I think, the only similarity. Was he the one that became like a Hare Krishna for like a minute?
Did he?
No, he was the one.
He was hairy.
He was just always like a sour dick.
I can't remember.
All those angry white guys in the 60s.
Yeah, yeah.
They all tend to bleed into one.
Poor guys.
But anyways, none of the three people that I supposedly look like
look like each other.
So I don't know.
Just objectively as an online experience,
So, I don't know.
Just objectively, as an online experience, the Google app is that told you what piece of art or character from a work of art you looked like is just a better experience objectively.
Like, it seems like it actually found someone who looked like you, whereas this is just like looks for superficial similarities.
Wow, are you okay about this?
He's having a real hard time over there.
I'm fine.
We just have matching glasses.
I'm not a former bachelor.
Okay.
The other thing that is not great about this app is that they leaked people's,
like there was just like zero security
from the start and so there was just a a folder anyone could get to that was holding all of the
images that people were uploading to the web page so it's pretty horny yeah just it's pretty horny
yeah just some developer just clicking through photos. Right. Yeah, yeah. What about them?
Oh, this is my new avatar.
Hello.
I'll be friends with you.
The grossest sound ever.
Yeah, that is such a gross sound.
Well, I'm glad I didn't do it.
I'm glad I didn't fall into the trap.
I know.
We were like, oh, have you done it?
No, you should check it out.
And then explain to you what the problem was.
And this was a pop sugar dot com thing it was a pop sugar.com did they close the most trusted name in news um i think they did not because after the whole story about them leaking things
broke i then uploaded my own picture uh do you think that was a conspiracy thing?
Like users are starting to dip.
So PopSugar was like, now tell them it's not secure.
And then people went to it again.
Probably.
Like, you know, one of those like marketing, like we'll create a disaster and people will
want to see the car wreck.
No, I'm sure it was a disaster.
I'm sure there were a bunch of dummies or just like, whatever.
I mean, I feel like PopSugar.com and I need to have a great talk.
You know what it feels like?
Did you ever see the John Oliver?
He had that show a long time ago that was really horrible about like, I'm going to stop
fat people from existing.
What?
Wait, what?
He went to like the fattest city in America and was like, I'm going to stop everyone from
being fat.
And it was gross.
But he did do this thing with like a bunch of kids where he showed them how chicken nuggets were made
where he stripped down a carcass,
grinded the bones up,
then just showed them how awful it was.
And at the end he was like, now who wants one?
And they were all like, me!
I love chicken nuggets!
Right, because they're delicious.
You just can't, as bad as stuff is, people are like, not John Oliver.
Wait, Jamie Oliver.
Oh, okay.
That makes a lot more sense.
I wish it was John Oliver.
Right.
I was so sad.
He'd be so awkward.
What?
That John Oliver was.
No, it was Jamie Oliver.
Sorry, everyone.
Everybody is bad.
Jamie Oliver.
Celebrity chef Jamie Oliver.
Yeah.
Okay.
Not to be confused with celebrity, anxiety-ridden human John Oliver.
But I feel like this is one of those examples of the fun face that we're putting on the dystopian nightmare that we're sort of being slowly lowered into.
What do you mean slowly right well it's yeah but it's something that it's not like oh my god and then Skynet became
self-aware and like launched all the nukes at the same time it's like we're slowly just
walking down the steps into the dystopia but because they're like fun things like, ah, you look like Tom Cruise.
That it's just like-
I do look like Tom Cruise.
Yeah.
Tom Cruise was on there when I smiled.
We'll tell you what celebrity you smell like
if you give us your last four digits of your social.
I gotta know.
I gotta know.
That's a goop.
I know I shouldn't do it.
Oh, yeah. Oh, Gwyneth. that's a goop like no I shouldn't do it yeah
witness
but yeah I mean
so like the
facial recognition
thing is
London
London's police force
just
hey
so oh we're joined
by one of the
Bobby's
himself
hey officer
Crumbleton.
Hey.
Boy, go ahead.
So they were using facial recognition and facial scanning technology to scan the faces of Christmas shoppers in London.
Catch those thievery boogers.
I think they were worried about, you know, terrorism,
but also shoplifting, I'm sure, was at the top of their list.
They saw Home Alone and were like, God, not on my watch.
Yeah, it's Christmas time.
Right.
But, you know, it's, China's really good at it
because they have, like, all of their citizens' faces in a database.
And so they've been able to algorithmically just figure out how to match facial technology.
But I think in the West, we're still not great at it because a whopping 98% of the matches used by the technology were mistakes.
In the case of the London Police Force.
Oh, yeah.
Remember David Schwimmer?
What happened with David Schwimmer?
Well, it was fake David Schwimmer.
It's not a facial recognition thing,
but the dude got caught on the security camera
like stealing beer.
Oh, right.
Yeah.
He looked like David Schwimmer.
Yeah.
Ross, David Schwimmer.
Yeah, I know.
You keep saying his name.
Yes, I know David Schwimmer.
Wait, who was it? David Schwimmer. Wait, who was it?
David Schwimmer.
Oh, Schwimmer.
If you say it enough, is he going to appear?
Is that why you're doing it?
Rachel.
Hey, guys.
We were on a break.
Still holds up.
He does have like a vague Texas accent too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I will say towards the end of the season,
because my roommate and I were like watching it.
Yeah.
And he started getting kind of buff.
Oh, yeah.
Well, once they're like.
It's like Ross.
What are you doing?
Yeah, I feel like that happens sometimes
because they see themselves on camera.
And so as they're becoming more seen by more people, they're also like having less touch with reality.
And fewer and fewer people tell them like, no, your job is not to look awesome on camera.
It's to play the role of this insecure paleontologist.
Yeah.
Wait, he was a paleontologist yeah or like
a paleontology yeah you know handsome buff uh paleontology professor i don't know that's
probably i'm sure i'm fucking up some details i'm so happy i never watched friends ever
um but yeah and then once you get to the peak of your fame, you stop changing everything about yourself, which is why Michael Jordan still dresses like it's 1996.
Yeah, well, it caught up eventually.
Yeah.
Now he's the pinnacle of style.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, it did come back around, didn't it?
Yeah, just keep dressing the way you're dressing.
It'll show up again eventually.
stressing it'll show up again eventually.
Amazon has patented a new doorbell camera that would be equipped with technology that allows the device to gather data and identify people considered to be, quote, suspicious,
which is scary.
Does it also squirt water out of it and people ring it?
Gotcha.
That would be, again,
that would be like the fun version of this
is that it would like have, you know,
a viral video of somebody getting squirted in the face.
Isn't this a Tom Cruise movie?
About facial recognition?
Yeah, where he goes and he like kills
or arrests people before they do something bad.
Yes, yeah, That is identity.
Report?
Nope.
Minority report.
Okay.
Yeah, but they have facial scanners and retina scanners all over the place in that one.
Yeah, so we're getting there.
We're getting there.
And he's going to commit.
Yeah.
A murder.
All right. Let's talk once again about I've been missing him because I chose not to pay attention to the news as much as possible over while we took some time off.
But he's back, our president.
Back and better than ever.
Yeah.
He's still doing it.
He's still at it, you guys. President Donald Trump had a sort of half press conference,
like televised meeting yesterday full of just a lot of comedic highlights.
He was surrounded by people who I didn't recognize.
And then producer Nick Stumpf pointed out that that was his cabinet.
And it's just you don't recognize any of them because he's like fired all of them
or they've all quit in the past week. all like their subordinates yeah it's all just yeah people people
who are in the hallway uh who were willing to come in uh did he finally hire that a kid mowing the
lawn yeah i think he did so here just a quick uh highlight reel he boasted he would have been a great general
uh he insisted his generals were better looking than tom cruise and stronger you mean our five
star general tom cruise right he complained uh that he spent christmas all alone at the white
house quote except for all the guys out on the lawn with machine guns, which sounds like a crazy, like I get what he was saying
because there are snipers everywhere,
but it sounds like a confused old man
who just like was looking out the window of the White House
and was like, oh.
Sounds like the start of a Sinbad movie.
Right.
Sinbad home for Christmas at the White House.
Yeah.
Old man president's not having a good time.
What?
But Super Producer Nick Stump just pointed out that he did specify that they were the nicest machine guns he'd ever seen.
And I think that he waved to a couple of the guys with the machine guns.
So there was a particularly confused moment.
The Tom Cruise kind of ramble was particularly uh weird so he said
i had a meeting at the pentagon with lots of generals they were like from a movie better
looking than tom cruise and stronger laughs alone nobody else is laughing everyone's like uh
and i had more generals than i've ever seen seen and we were at the bottom of this
incredible room
is this a dream he had?
doesn't it sound like it?
is this our military, Ginny?
have some fucking respect
yeah, exactly
I said
and then my dad was there, but it really wasn't my dad
it was actually a gun
doesn't it sound like it?
okay, this is I'm continuing to read this quote I said, this is the greatest room I've ever It was actually a gun. Right. Doesn't it sound like it? Okay.
I'm continuing to read his quote.
I said, this is greatest room I've ever seen with more computer boards than they make today.
That's great.
Our military should be ahead of its time.
Computer boards.
More computer boards than they make today.
What the fuck does that mean?
We don't even make them.
That's how many we have.
Yeah. We have one computer
board. He's got a great collection. Our military
is strong, powerful,
and technical. A bunch of those
iPhone
chargers just lined up.
And it's almost as
if they're just
intending to make great comedic
videos, and maybe that's what's happening everybody
around him have just decided we're gonna make this presidency as funny as possible because
at the end of the press conference they panned out to reveal that that game of thrones inspired
meme where it was like trump looking and it said uh sanctions are coming and he retweeted it
he just had a poster sized version of that meme on the table in front of him.
No, he didn't.
Yeah.
He didn't.
Our tax dollars paid for this.
All of this.
He's just.
All of this.
I'm getting fucked on taxes so our president can print a meme.
Can print out a meme.
Was it?
I really hope it was a meme that was like just regular printer but tile.
Yeah.
Right.
Get me a printout of that.
Imagine being like the fucking intern or like his son.
And he's like, what?
He would like have to go to, you got to go to like FedEx and print that out on cardboard.
And someone's going to be like, what is this?
It's like, this is for your president.
Is this for your 14 year old? They'd is this it's like this is for your present like oh is this is this for your 14 year old they'd be like no this is for the president
it does make it hard to take seriously i feel like maybe it's maybe that's the goal it's so
depressing but the people who this resonates with it makes total sense. It does. But especially like, you know, a lot of uneducated people
or like older people.
Right.
And then also weird rich people that are educated and smart.
Right.
Yeah, but they're also like isolated.
It does sound like an elderly person without any context
walking into a modern workplace.
Just being like, there are computer boards.
I'm the boss.
And this guy, he's as handsome as Tom Cruise.
This is almost like when you work for a streaming service in production and it's so easy.
You just upload something to like Content Hub or Google Doc
and then you have older executives
who don't know how to use a computer
so you have to print out a DVD and slide it under the door
and they don't even watch it. You can hear
anyways, I have just
some work stuff coming up.
Just some shade
at old
producers. You know
who you are. Old ass
fucks. Hey, well
speaking of old ass fucks,
old ass fucks,
Romney, baby.
Yeah, that hair.
The new leader of the resistance.
Imagine him going down.
Imagine him going down.
Are you Mitt Romney?
Mitt Romney going down on me?
Because I was going to comment about that.
Is he going to scratch my back?
I'm fine with that.
Mitt Romney has never.
If Mitt Romney scratches my back, literally he could do anything.
Mitt Romney clips his fingernails every morning. That's dope. Every morning? I'm going to make some Mitt Romney has never... If Mitt Romney scratches my back, literally he could do anything. Mitt Romney clips his fingernails every morning.
That's dope.
Every morning?
I'm going to make some Mitt Romney...
Maybe he's like superhuman.
Fan erotica for you guys.
Romney fan erotica.
I would look at that.
I don't think I would look at Trump fan erotica.
I want to make me erotica of Romney fighting Joe Biden.
Oh.
And then as they're rolling on the ground, a gentle kiss.
Okay. Sounds like you're writing one of your own. fighting Joe Biden. Oh. And then as they're rolling on the ground, a gentle kiss.
Okay.
Sounds like you're writing one of your own.
So Mitt Romney announced
that he would be the new leader of the resistance
with an op-ed in the Washington Post
where he criticized Trump on manners, basically,
it seems like,
which is something you see a lot with people who oppose
Trump, who are still sort of part of the mainstream political elite and the mainstream media even is
that their complaint with Trump seems to be more based on, you know, the fact that he doesn't show
respect for these institutions. And it's, you know, because the things that mainstream Republicans are for are still pretty
monstrous.
Like the places that they differentiate themselves from Trump are just, you know, that he makes
it sound as bad as it is in a lot of cases.
He's like, doesn't try to sugarcoat things that much.
cases he's like doesn't try to sugarcoat things that much i mean i think there is some validity to the complaint that like the whole he's not politically correct thing is bad because you know
racism has continued to become more public and acceptable among racists and hate crimes are more
common and uh you know there's something to be said for that. And he also pointed
out that in 2016, Pew Research polled 84% of people in Germany and Britain and France and Canada,
saying they believe the American president would do the right thing. And one year later,
that number had fallen to 16%. So that's not great, because we're at a time in history
where you kind of need somebody
to be a
leader
Merkel is the leader now
Germany is the world leader
right
and she's on her way out
came back onto this podcast
reading these quotes
Germany is the leader
welcome to the daily zeitgeist yeah this will be in German Merkel Germany is the leader. Welcome to the daily zeitgeist.
Yeah, this will be in German.
And Gilecki Merkel, she is our leader.
I don't know.
He still structures his entire critique on the subject of civility
and that Trump shows poor character and that we need a leader
who is a man of character.
And some people are speculating that
this is the first step in romney's plan to primary trump in 2020 um i'm gonna have to use that yeah
you're gonna primary trump in 2020 no in the erotic fiction oh yeah
he's just so robotic and in like when what his favorite meat was, he said hot dog.
And when asked what his second favorite meat was, he said hamburger.
Would he know how to nibble?
Does he know that Tim and Eric song?
He probably eats people.
That's the thing.
He's so rich.
He probably eats people. That's the thing. He's so rich, he probably eats people, and that's his favorite.
Have you guys talked about that rich guy in Florida?
He didn't eat people, but he was a child pedophile.
Did we talk about this?
We have, yeah.
The guy who's a billionaire who was recruiting child sex workers from Mar-a-Lago.
Yeah.
Yeah. What. Yeah.
What?
Yeah.
A lot of people don't know that.
Yeah, it kind of got hushed,
but the Miami Herald had this huge expose about it.
A lot of people were like, whoops,
but the guy who, he's friends with this guy,
but a lot of people that he serviced
were so powerful that they just shut it down.
Oh, so he would go to Mar-a-Lago and be like,
hey, everybody.
Well, he also had a private island and a private jet
where a lot of these things happened.
Real monster.
Yeah, it's like straight up the stuff you see
in a Hollywood movie with a Tom Cruise.
Tom Cruise, who's trying to save him?
With a Kevin Spacey.
The guy's name is Jeffrey Epstein and people should check out the Miami Herald shit about him.
But anyways, it seems like.
Now I know what I'm doing with my evening.
I think there was a poll that said that a large portion of Iowans would approve of somebody trying to challenge Trump in the primary.
And Iowa's obviously randomly important when it comes to presidential primaries.
I feel like people are getting tired of him.
Yeah.
Yeah, it seems like that might be happening.
The government shutdown doesn't seem like it's playing well with his base,
according to the 538 Trump popularity-o-meter things.
See, I think his base would still be like, it's the Democrats.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're the reason because they won't give our leader his money.
That's what I assume.
But I always assume they just would be that on all things.
And for whatever reason, his approval rating is going down and his disapproval rating is
going up over the past like five days.
And that seems to be the thing that changed.
Like usually it takes a week for the news cycle to filter down into opinion polls.
And that seems like it's the thing that people are reacting to.
But who knows?
Maybe it was the fact that he clearly has no concept of Christmas, hates Christmas, and is a Christmas movie villain.
There are so many things.
It's very hard to figure out.
Actually, literally, he's not really a villain.
Best machine guns.
Yes.
Just the best you've ever seen.
All right.
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And I wanted to take a look at what movies have predicted for this year of our Lord, 2019, because this was actually a pretty significant year in dystopian movie history.
Blade Runner takes place in 2019.
Classic. takes place in 2019 classic they predicted flying cars uh lifelike human replicants
and everybody would still smoke inside government buildings uh which but yeah i i guess flying cars
is something that people are making progress on but it's looking more like a 2035 thing
so they were only 16 years too early. But I guess with drone technology and...
Well, the replicants are real.
Are they?
Mitt Romney?
Haven't you seen that robot that can jump over boxes?
Yes.
Have you seen that with the legs?
The Boston Dynamics?
You know what's up.
Oh my God.
Big Dog or whatever.
It's scary.
It's scary.
I think the robot war is coming
and they're all going to look like Sophia. It's scary. It's scary. I think the robot war is coming,
and they're all going to look like Sophia.
Or what's Sophie?
Who's now a Saudi Arabian citizen.
What?
Who's Sophie? The robot.
I think her name is Sophie,
who's a Saudi Arabian citizen.
Wow.
Hope she's not a journalist.
Zing.
She can be reprogrammed.
Yeah, and then
and then Japan now
has a hotel
that's completely run
by robots
robot cafe
but those robots
are fake
because they're like
on a track
it's not like
yeah
it's more like
for now
yeah
you don't know
that robot
could be having thoughts
Westworld was a documentary
I feel like you're
trying to challenge me
right now
and I don't know
why
she is the co-host okay you why. She is the co-host, okay?
You do not disagree
with the co-host.
Guest.
For now.
Replicants come.
The other thing Blade Runner clearly got right is that
Atari is our biggest corporation.
Atari
runs everything, as does Pan Am Airlines.
Those are two of the big logos you see everywhere in the Blade Runner universe.
But yeah, they generally predicted the fact that the world would be a lot of lights and weird simulations and people distracting themselves.
Well, that was right right yeah they they kind
of nailed that the running man uh which is an arnold schwarzenegger vehicle uh in which he is
framed for murder and then has to fight slash run his way out of a murder game show sounds far-fetched
but jenny as you pointed out,
they have very specific deep fake things
that they called.
Didn't it also have two governors in it?
Did it?
Was Jesse the Body Venture in it?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, two governors in that movie.
Yeah.
It was...
A lot of people have referred to The Running Man
as a launching pad for politics,
for a lot of great political careers. Obama got his referred to The Running Man as a launching pad for politics, for a lot of great political careers.
Obama got his start in The Running Man.
Yeah.
But yeah, deep fakes, like they're able to just manipulate videos in a way that is, it's pretty impressive that they got it as right as they did.
they did because when you look at what they thought digital media was going to look like,
or like special effects or any technology,
like a escape from New York,
they have like,
everything is still in like a three dimensional,
like green and black matrix.
So the fact that running man knew that we would be messing with the ability to
like put someone into an actual video
or remove them is pretty impressive.
And yeah, I mean, it's a really cheesy game show host
is incredibly influential in that movie's 2019.
Also, so when the girl goes through the shoot,
I remember one of her, the reason, what is it called where she did a bad thing?
Her crime?
One of her crimes.
Thank you.
Her sin.
Her sins.
One of the sins was that she had premarital sex.
Oh, really?
Have you listened to it?
I remember watching it and they were like, you love this movie.
I've never heard of it.
Yeah, you're really into this movie.
I watched it very recently
okay
wait they say
premarital sex
it was either like
premarital sex
or she had sex
with more than one person
oh really
like
at the same time
yeah probably
cool
but I was just
listening to that
and being like
oh
that was considered
bad in 2019
yeah
they
I mean that is
she was a hottie, too.
I'm just going to put that out there.
I haven't seen it.
That's the girl who Arnold Schwarzenegger is incredibly violent towards at the beginning and ends up kissing him at the end.
Yeah, doesn't he hit her?
Yeah, basically.
Wow.
Just throwing her around like a rag doll.
Takes her as a hostage, uh she ends up being into him
but yeah i mean that is kind of a wild love bad boys uh you hear that guys no don't do that please
that is kind of like i i know that for a lot of my childhood i thought that history only went in one direction, that things got better or more
progressive, I guess. And so for a movie where everything is all future-y, but people have
more conservative morality, that's kind of a challenging idea for an Arnold Schwarzenegger
action movie to be like, yes, and they will view premarital sex
as a sin punishable by running man death.
Yep.
Yeah.
The Island.
Now we're getting to the classics.
Michael Bay's The Island
tells the story of a island
that's supposed to be a utopia,
but all the people,
spoiler alert, guys,
all the people are actually clones who are just there to provide rich people with organ.
I've never seen this either.
It's actually not a classic.
I was being sarcastic.
Do the clones, do they become aware that they're clones?
They do.
And Ewan McGregor breaks out.
What?
So he's a clone and finds other-
He's a clone, and he and another woman clone,
they decide to break out once they realize that they're just-
Meat?
Yeah, just meat, just organs for their-
How do they find out?
I don't know.
I actually-
Somebody has a smart phone, which is a real dumb idea.
No, they don't.
They do.
You've seen it?
No.
Oh, I'm going to have to Wikipedia this.
Daybreakers, an Ethan Hawke movie.
Cigarettes.
It's about cigarettes.
Daybreakers.
Daybreakers, cigarettes for men.
That's what that sounds like to you?
Sometimes cigarettes are just too girly.
Daybreak.
Just enormous cigarettes.
They're just like real big and phallic cigarettes.
Don't worry.
It's not like you're sucking on someone else's dick.
It's your own.
Don't worry.
It's your dick.
Cigars. Don't worry. Just pretend it's your own don't worry it's your dick cigars don't worry just pretend it's your dick um anyways this movie uh is actually about a plague that turns a large portion of humanity
into vampires so i hope it doesn't happen am i right guys no that's probably not gonna happen
and unless we're speaking metaphorically
in which case it's already happened this is going in the mitt romney yeah on goop.com you can get a
psychic vampire spray is that true yep what the fuck does that mean uh maybe there's a psychic
vampire in your life you're an emotional vampire you know sucking the emotions out of you. And you spray them. You spray yourself.
Oh, and it keeps them off.
It's like off for emotional vampires.
Yeah. Got it.
Well, I'm going to go invest.
If you had like 30 bucks and you didn't want to shit
on it, just buy that
stuff. Did you?
You seem defensive about it.
Guest.
Oh yeah?
Ex-co-host.
Anyways.
Tell me about Daybreakers.
So Daybreakers,
I mean,
it was just a vampire movie.
Oh, who cares?
Boring.
It's like a vampire movie
with a zombie movie premise.
Everybody gets turned
into vampires
via a zombie plague.
and she's like,
turn me into a vampire.
Who's like that?
Kristen Dunst in that movie.
Oh, when she's a child?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That's weird.
Interview with a vampire.
And then she's like, I'm a kid.
I don't want to be a kid anymore.
Yeah, it's like, well, guess what?
You became a vampire when you were seven.
Now we're on Akira.
And Akira is...
Akira!
Akira got kind of the most
hard to call detail right
in that they predicted the 2020 Olympics
would be in Tokyo
which is pretty crazy it was a movie that came out
in 1982 or I guess
it was the manga
appeared in 1982
I'd say out of all the movies you named this is the best one
yeah
well I saved it for last
doesn't it have a killer teddy bear in it again half remembered movie I'd say out of all the movies you named, this is the best one. Yeah. Well, I saved it for last.
Doesn't it have a killer teddy bear in it?
It's got a cool motorcycle. Again, half-remembered movies.
Yeah.
Don't you remember that?
It's like dope as fuck, man.
I'm going to watch it when I go home.
But there's also like a-
You know what?
There's probably some fucking piece of shit old ass producer.
Akira, can you get that on VHS for me?
Akira.
You piece of old shit.
Ak-a-what?
Sounds dumb.
Let's buy it.
But they also get the fact that the Olympics is like a great way to justify your police state correct which was
a take that everybody on the internet was making like around the 2012 olympics so again ahead of
their time and yeah those are the movies that take place in 2019 so thanks some of those dystopias
sound better than what we're going through because at least
then you can like be mad at the dystopic government that is like holding the people
down via force whereas like we talked about earlier we're just all kind of doing it to
ourselves which one would you rather be cute apps uh i still like the cute apps personally so you know of the movies oh probably
probably the running man
running man
yeah
cause
what about you
well I've only really seen Akira
so
I guess that
oh okay
what about you
I don't know that Daybreaker
sounds pretty good
yeah
yeah
Ethan Hawke
yeah I mean you're just
turning into a vampire
vampires are like sexy and stuff.
All vampire movies are just sponsored content
for cigarettes anyways.
Daybreaker cigarettes!
You can live forever, so who gives a shit?
Sucking your own dick.
Dick breakers.
Dick breakers.
That's the...
That's my wrestling name?
Dick breaker? That's a great wrestling name wwe speaking of
wwe we have two sad uh passings that happened yesterday mean gene from the wwe the announcer
and then bob einstein aka super dave aka funkhauser from... Oh, he was Super Dave.
Yeah, Super Dave Osborne.
Oh, that's so sad.
So, yeah, two greats that were lost yesterday.
Bye.
Yeah.
And I say that with sadness.
Wow.
That's such a great delivery.
Maybe you don't have emotion.
You were right.
I am a vampire.
Well, Jenny, it's been a pleasure having you is that how i'm going out that's how you're going out and i'm not gonna let you say anything else
no uh what is uh where can people find you and follow you oh you can follow me on uh
instagram at jenny zagrino j-e-n-n-y z-Z-I-G-R-I-N-O. I don't use Twitter, so don't do that.
Swing your face, losers.
Yeah, and I'm slowly trying to get rid of Facebook.
Is there a piece of social media,
or we usually ask people if there's a tweet they've been enjoying,
but since you just said that you don't use Twitter.
Don't use Twitter.
Is there anything you've been enjoying?
I just, on Instagram, if I'm feeling down, I'll just go to Chill Wildlife. Chill't use Twitter. Is there anything you've been enjoying? I love, I just,
on Instagram,
if I'm feeling down,
I'll just go to
Chill Wildlife.
Chill Wildlife?
Do you know there?
No.
Oh my,
it's just fun videos
of animals.
That sounds amazing.
Yeah,
that brings me so much joy.
Chill Wildlife.
All right.
Yeah.
Check it out.
And then just follow me,
please.
Ever,
where can people find you?
You can find me on all social media
I am no longer on snapchat
but maybe I'll get on there but whole snapper 69
I don't think anybody's using it but I wanted
to say it on I wanted to say it
on air
ever Maynard E-V-E-R-M-A-I
N-A-R-D at Twitter
and Instagram
is there a tweet you've been enjoying
well yes I actually really liked Miles Twitter and Instagram. Is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Well, yes.
I actually really liked Miles' tweet.
What was it?
I'm forgetting it word for word, but he used Japanese characters.
And he was like, translation, my grandma said I've gained weight.
Because that reminded me of my grandmother.
And also, my favorite thing is, you, when you have a nemesis,
I'm right here.
Then you saw my tweet,
bitch.
Some of my favorite tweets are just sub tweets.
Nothing in particular,
but all right.
Anyways.
Well,
a tweet I've been enjoying is Jason O.
Gilbert tweeted,
wow,
brave op-ed from Mitt Romney.
And it was a fake headline that said,
Mitt Romney, Mr. President, sir,
I'm going to vote for every single one of your bills,
but I will be frowning.
Wait, can I go back to?
Yes.
Caleb Sinan has that tweet, I am 16 going on 17.
And then it says, dash, the Iraq war. I'm 16 going on 17. And then it says, dash, the Iraq war.
I'm 16 going on 17.
Bam!
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
But it's funny because it's true.
Yeah, it's so sad.
You know, it's so sad.
Anyways.
But cute.
Sad but cute, which is the theme of today's episode and our dying world.
You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.
You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist.
We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.
We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com,
where we post our episodes and our footnotes,
where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
as well as the song we ride out on.
And Anna is playing an a air is this thing on
hi and we are joined by super producer anna hosnier hey how was your holiday it was great
you know whatever uh today i'm going to recommend amber mark maybe you've heard of her maybe you've heard of it um i found out
from her about her from a way that i will not talk about it because it upsets me but um starbucks
yeah i was at starbucks and i found a cd and now i can't go back there uh no so amber mark this is
her song lose my cool Cool But hey Slow down
It's not just the regular
Lose My Cool
It's the Frank Moody remix
It's poppin'
I've heard it like 15 times
At every Urban Outfitters
I fucking go and do
Oh that's where it was
No I'll tell you afterward
How I found it
It's not
It shouldn't be public information
Wow
Now everybody was gonna wanna know
Was it a crime? Put it in the footnotes I heard it while I was murdering It's not. It shouldn't be public information. Wow. Now everybody was going to want to know.
Was it a crime?
Put it in the footnotes. I heard it while I was murdering someone.
I was like, ooh.
Siri, what's this song?
All right.
Well, we're going to ride out on that.
We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast.
We'll talk to you guys then.
Bye. Bye.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye. I was so full of pain just stuck in my head
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