The Daily Zeitgeist - Melania “Hot Take” Trump, These 100 Companies Killed The Planet 10.11.18
Episode Date: October 11, 2018In episode 250, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and Reality Bytes co-host Sofiya Alexandra to discuss Hurricane Michael, Melania Trump's comments on the #metoo movement, Trump's mis-leading op-e...d on Medicare-For-All, the right fearing for their lives cause of liberals, Trump's behavior leading to the more corrupt behavior across the world, why stocks are dropping, scientists studying the flipping bottle trick, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Hurricane Michael makes landfall: Florida homes fully submerged – live2. Melania Trump weighs in on the #MeToo movement3. Donald Trump: Democrats 'Medicare for All' plan will demolish promises to seniors4. Democrats seize on cherry-picked claim that ‘Medicare-for-all’ would save $2 trillion5. ERIC HOLDER: WHEN REPUBLICANS GO LOW, ‘WE KICK THEM’6. Hillary Clinton: You 'cannot be civil' with Republicans, Democrats need to be 'tougher'7. Watch Tucker Carlson bumble and stumble and change the subject when he tries to paint "The Left" as a violent mob and his guest brings up Dylann Roof and Charlottesville8. Rand Paul on political climate: 'I really worry that someone is going to be killed'9. Turkish officials say a Saudi murder squad is behind journalist's death10. Bond yields rise to 7-year high. Time to worry?11. Dow falls 832 points in third-worst day by points ever12. Just 100 companies responsible for 71% of global emissions, study says13. The Carbon Majors Database14. Physics holds the key to performing the flipping water bottle trick15. WATCH: Tajima Hal - For A While Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 52, Episode 4 of The Daily Zeitgeist!
For Thursday, October 11th, 2018, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a.
Zeitgeist is the greatest daily podcast show with Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Zeitgeist is the greatest daily podcast show with Jack O'Brien and Miles.
Yeah, you know, Michael Barbaro has got nothing on this.
I don't know the rest of it.
Andrew Thomas, thank you. And I'm
thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host
Mr. Miles Gray!
Cause it's just a sweet, sweet
sad ghost, baby.
When I close my mouth,
you come in a gray
man. Thank you so much.
What am I still doing here at
Sort of Profound for that
Mariah Carey-inspired AKA?
Because, yes, I don't know her, and she gave us that wonderful one.
So thank you for that.
Which Mariah Carey song was that?
Fantasy.
Oh, okay.
Not clear.
You hit that falsetto.
That was good as hell.
You know, that's all I have in my life is just that falsetto.
Just falsetto.
So thank you so much.
We are thrilled to be joined by the voice you just heard.
She's a writer, comedian, co-host of the Reality Bites podcast, Sophia Alexandra.
Hello.
Thank you for having me.
Thank you for being here.
So you're liking the vibe in here?
I'm glad you like to sing.
That's an auspicious start.
Yes.
Women coming in looking for keys.
Yeah.
Everybody.
Troubled men looking for keys.
Wayward young men.
Yes.
Well, Sophia, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're going to be talking about today.
We're going to be talking about Hurricane Michael.
We're going to be talking about the power couple of modern politics, Melania and Donald Trump.
It shouldn't be ironic to call them a power couple since he is the president.
And she's the first lady, right?
I think it's funny that they both had these big statements that they made.
She went on ABC News.
He dropped an op-ed in the most serious journalistic institution in America, USA Today.
We're also going to talk about how shook the right is.
They're very concerned that the left is going to come for them.
And we're going to talk about that in the context of history.
All that and plenty more.
But first, Sophia, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are?
Well, when I was trying to answer this in preparation for the podcast,
I looked up all the pages open on my phone.
Okay.
And a lot of them were just finding out when a bakery closes near to where i am okay
what kind of bakery so i mean i'm into the good shit okay i mean so what's that gelson's or above
victor bennett yeah victor bennett at the very least um what do you get there yeah what do you
get those chocolate meringue hazelnut cookies oh yeah yeah and so what do you get? What's your poison? I get those chocolate meringue hazelnut cookies.
Oh, yeah.
Those are the fucking business.
So were you just like at the buzzer and you're like, damn, is Victor Benes or is this bakery still open?
I mean, yeah, that's pretty much my life.
I'm like, is it 9.50?
Like, I gotta go.
Is there a bakery open at 9?
No, right?
Yes, bitch.
A lot of bakers are open until 10.
This is why I have to look things up because it is important
in my mind a baker is like hours are like four like three in the morning right six at night or
something and then they got to like recharge i mean that's a mistake because when you mostly
want dessert is at night right during the day you're doing shit but you're saying there are
bakeries that are their hours are until 10 or it's a bakery within another within another business
yeah a lot of thinking so it's all been baked earlier.
It's not fresh baked.
It's baked that day, Jack.
Well, I only like stuff when it's coming straight out of the oven and directly into my mouth.
Burning your mouth.
Without touching a hand in between.
That's why your lips look all burnt up.
Yes.
No, I have sores all over my face and mouth.
That's why you're so thin.
That's right.
I eat food that's too hot to eat.
I have to spit it out mostly.
What is something you think is overrated?
This was hard, but I do think it's crystals and texting.
Crystals and texting.
So crystal is somebody-
The hot sauce.
Okay.
Yes.
Crystal hot sauce.
Or crystals the fast food joint in the South.
Just every woman named Crystal.
Every woman named Crystal.
No.
I feel like this might be an LA problem, but like a lot of friends of mine and like
just people I know, women I know, I guess, are really into crystals.
Sure.
And it's like really hard to keep trying to have a straight face during these conversations.
Yeah.
When like people are telling me that like rose quartz is going to like bring peace into
my fucking life or whatever the fuck.
Or they're like, do you have a Himalayan salt lamp?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm like, bruh, I don't know.
I barely just learned how to change light bulbs.
I can't deal with a...
I mean, they say there are benefits,
and I'm sure if you believe it, then more power to you.
But yeah, I can't.
Also, these are the same bitches that I see complaining about having no money
being like, oh, Venmo me $5.
If you love me I'm like um
I don't love your dumb ass habit
I'm not supporting it
you got money for that opal
you got money for lunch bitch
that is how that works
you can't give them money because they'll just blow it on crystals
so you have to just buy them a meal
I would respect it if it was
I would respect it if it was for drugs.
Right.
Yeah, exactly.
You know what I'm saying?
So much more.
Is that a job, just begging for money
for your crystals on vent?
What platform do you use, Twitter?
Or text you, like, hey, can you vent more really quick?
No, these are statuses people put up on Facebook.
Wow.
And I'm like, also, I know that you just posted
about spending money at a crystal store.
I'm just like, I don't.
Trying to get those crystals for free.
I think I'm more tolerant of spending money on things, even if they're bad, if like, you know what they are.
You know what I mean?
If they're like a real thing.
Like if you're spending money on weed, I'm like, we know what that's going to be for you.
You can consume it.
Yeah.
It has an effect.
I can see it happen.
I'm like, good, good on you.
I'm sure somebody who listens to the show is out there.
So mad at me right now?
Well, not that they're mad, but most people don't get mad.
Sometimes.
No, crystal people get pretty mad.
I don't know.
I feel like if they are, then they've betrayed their whole crystal vibe.
I know, right?
A crystal person should be like, you're actually very incorrect.
And I would love to open your eyes to the powers of these stones.
They are very powerful.
If they're mad, I'll be like, oh, I guess you're not carrying that amethyst around like
you said you were.
It's not doing what you said.
Are there crystals that give you more energy?
Or is it all just shit that's like, oh, this connects with my-
Yeah, no.
You can make up anything.
Right.
Okay.
So you could just get amped up on crystals.
Yeah.
Well, there's one for energy protection.
Okay.
I mean, if you look down, there are seven crystals that give you energy.
A ruby can increase your blood flow.
Amber can give you all the inner power.
Amethyst can help you power through an emotional exhaustion.
Crystal meth.
And any of the money you spend on any of those would help you have a better life.
Right.
Yeah, I mean, or just save up.
Rather than buying the most brolic wild crystal ever, maybe
do one therapy session.
Yeah.
Right.
Maybe like, why do I need this crystal though?
Maybe I just need it to journal.
Is it just filling the spot in those people's lives that religion used to fill for people
or still does for religious people?
Do you think?
I don't know.
I think people I know are like into it for like the holistic aspect of it.
Most people who I know are on that crystal wave
are very much all about natural products.
I think it's, to me, it's like a pseudoscience thing.
Yeah.
You know, I think it's like people who are into crystals
are into other pseudosciences.
And I think people who are into pseudoscience get mad
when you're like, okay, well, there's studies
that prove that this is nothing.
That this is a rock.
Yeah, and then you're just like telling them something, there's studies that prove that this is nothing. That this is a rock. Yeah.
And then you're just like telling them something that is a fact, but they're perceiving it as something that you're taking away from them, even though you're like, and you are,
I guess, in a certain way, you're just like, can you shift your energy to something more
valuable?
You know, like I think religion is not like my tip, but churches do great work sometimes.
So do synagogues, so do mosques.
Like if you're actually using church or religion to better yourself and your community and your environment, like more power to you.
I think that's wonderful.
But I just think crystals, you're not doing anything for anyone.
This isn't a real thing.
And the person who charged you $15.
Yeah.
And if you're really trying to do something for yourself, I think you're right.
Therapy or going for a walk or whatever, all of that is more valuable.
Spending that money on an experience.
Yeah.
Well, because I had a friend who was almost using crystals to not have to actually confront issues in their lives.
They're like, I'm so exhausted.
But they're like, you should go to the doctor because your health all fucked up.
Nah, nah, nah.
I need this crystal.
Yeah.
I'm like, you have a real reason to not go to the doctor
aside from maybe you'd rather just kick the can
down the road and say I'll clutch this green
rock for my energy
and my blood flow
I got more crazy about pseudoscience
because I'm a breast cancer survivor
and I had cancer like a year ago
or something so the number
of people that posted really fucked up
stuff on my like wall
who aren't even like real friends who just be like you gotta watch this video this yogi cured
his cancer with beans oh no are you looking at this magic bean option right right i'm like
if i fucking die are you gonna come over and pay for the funeral are you gonna hang out with my mom
like what like what who's taking the responsibility for that on themselves to hang out with my mom? Like what? Like what? Who's taking the
responsibility for that on themselves to be like, no, no, no, please do this fake thing that doesn't
affect me at all. Have you tried CBD? Yeah. Right. Have you tried CBD is the answer to all life
sales. But I think Steve Jobs actually tried to cure his cancer using all sorts of holistic
things. And that was actually something that stood in the way of his recovery.
Dude, Steve McQueen died from esothelioma because at one point when he like could have
had actual treatment, he decided to go to Mexico to one of these charlatan people that
say like, they'll cure your cancer with, you know, herbs and hanging out on the Mexican
beach.
And then like he died because that doesn't work.
But honestly, if you don't have a medical degree.
He died during surgery because the surgery was, like, too late for.
Right.
Anyway.
If you don't have a medical degree, do not talk to people who have cancer about what they should do.
If you are scientifically fucking illiterate.
Right.
Please shut the fuck up.
Yeah.
Also, I think a good rule to go by is if no one fucking
asks you right shut the fuck up especially if it's a dire situation a serious situation
if someone's like hey this dress or that dress or like exactly this place or this place for dinner
sure but if it's like hi i'm going through something medically or i have an issue in other
ways oh uh i know what's best just express support say, I'm here for you if you need anything.
Or a safety pin.
Or another good rule is if goop is caping for it,
just throw that shit out.
Just throw it out.
A good rule is if Gwyneth Paltrow is telling you
to put anything in your vagina or do anything to your vagina,
don't do it.
I was going to say, I was going to talk shit about goop,
but this crystal that I have in my ass right now
is actually taking me through this day.
Just aligned your chakras right now.
Your forehead, it really does look much smoother
as a result. You're lighting up like a
Christmas tree over here.
What is something you think is underrated?
So this is like a list
because I love stuff.
So there's some
TV that I think is underrated.
One of them is a show called The Rap Game where children compete for a recording contract on a chain from Jermaine Dupri.
And it is the fucking best.
It is?
Dude, it's so good.
If you want to see children and teens rap against each other and struggle to define their style and have photo photo shoots, and their parents living with them.
It is honestly the fucking best.
And the parents are like wacky stage parents
that are doing too much?
Some of them, yeah, but some of them are honestly,
you're like, oh, they grew up
in a really fucking tough environment.
These kids are super talented,
and the parents are trying to give them what they never could,
which is like pursuing an art.
What a fucking gift.
I'm an immigrant, and it took me
until I was in my late 20s to be like,
okay, well, you don't have to be a lawyer because you're a comedian you should just be a writer and a
comedian because you know it's ingrained in you like you can't do anything that is like an art
or anything that is pleasurable yeah or more self yeah i'm ukrainian like i grew up in the
ussr like yeah russian people don't tell their kids like you can grow up to be whatever you
want that's very american they're like no you should grow up to be something sensible that makes a good amount of money
grow up so i can work less that's great so yeah so i don't know are the kids good good rappers um
some of them are awesome yeah and you're just like blown away you're like you're nine yeah like a
serious flow what is going on right and some of them what's cool is you'll be like oh you're like
a mini missy elliott or you're like oh i cool is you'll be like, oh, you're like a mini Missy Elliott.
Or you're like, oh, I can see you could be like a Kid Cudi.
I love seeing stuff like that. Yeah, yeah.
I like seeing kids competing in like good things instead of like.
Death matches.
Well, I mean, I would love that.
Battle Royale.
Battle Royale.
Yeah, it's your favorite movie.
Classic.
Children's Fight Club.
Yeah, Children's Fight Club.
Who doesn't love that?
Right.
No, but I feel like I don't like, I mean i mean i like trash tv but i don't like certain
kinds of trash tv like i'm not a real housewives person like i just don't want to see women being
like dumb and like hitting each other or just like whatever i don't know i don't care about
that the rap game i think it's lifetime oh wow oh blew your mind didn't i what's up it's not
your grandma's lifetime they've really done they've really tried to change their programming
around so um yeah the rap game is amazing.
And they also try to do a version called the pop game,
where it was Timbaland,
the king pop singers.
Not as good,
just too similar,
like the voice and shit like that.
It's between Timbaland and Jermaine Dupri.
If the two of them were doing the rap one,
I'd be like,
uh, yes.
These people fucking make star rubs.
But they have guests come on,
like Latifah,
and like a lot of really cool people.
Okay.
So,
the rap game, you guys. What else?
Do it up.
Okay.
Also, I mean, a lot of the list was food, so I had to delete it.
I'm like, Sophia, are you just hungry before you're coming to this podcast?
We're going to just have you go through your whole list.
No, just me quick.
And then we'll ask about the ones we have questions about.
Great.
Go.
Go through the list.
Fire for this now.
Underrated movie, Fish Called Wanda.
I would have to say
my favorite comedy people don't talk about it um another thing i know this is food sorry it's okay
making a cake in a fucking mug underrated because you don't have to go out and get a whole cake or
make a whole cake make a little tiny cake in a mug in your microwave in five minutes wait what
about with the with the batter for that you just make do you just buy the whole sheets worth and then just make a little bit on the side?
No, no, no.
You like have.
Or they have mug cake packets.
No, you make your own.
So it's like two teaspoons of flour or whatever.
One teaspoon of sugar.
One egg white.
Okay.
Vanilla, whatever.
Stir it up.
Put it in the microwave for like a minute 30.
Delicious cake.
I mean, I'm missing some ingredients, but guys follow me.
So people should take that as exact ingredients.
Yeah.
Just make it with three things.
No,
that's don't do that.
Um,
all right.
My cake.
Very exciting.
Also,
um,
this is like for LA people,
but the observatory in the OC has a lot of really great shows.
Yeah.
The venue.
Yeah.
A lot of really good hip hop people come through there and it's pretty small.
And I like in the last couple of years I've seen like Big Boy Fiasco.
Big Boy came through there and was amazing.
And people don't go there because it's in the OC.
Because you're like, who wants to go to the Orange County?
Yeah, it's a cool place.
But it's worth the fucking drive.
And the tickets generally are pretty cheap.
And the crowd there is like college kids because it's around there so you'll feel like definitely like the oldest person there but not in a bad way where
you're like everybody here is dumb as fuck and i'm awesome my friends are awesome i played a show in
the constellation room which is the smaller venue on the other side of it the same day riff raff had
a show oh no and that crowd was wild like it was college kids but like
all the dudes
were dressed like
problematic
ultimate warrior
and like
all this other stuff
but it was
it was funny
to watch that show
but yeah
there's always
really good access
really awesome
good shows
I would say
get on their
mailing list
yeah
full disclosure
I work for them
no I joke
I work for
Mug Cake Company
Betty Crocker actually i'm sponsored by flower big flower
um big flower yeah um all right and then more tv that is underrated which is 90 day fiance
oh yes are you obsessed with 90 day fiance fuck with 90 day fiance before the 90 days
fuck with every iteration of 90 Day Fiancé.
Wow.
Okay, who are you trying to talk about?
This is the most connected I've ever felt to anybody.
Honestly, I've not watched it,
but the most excited and animated I've ever seen Miles and the most connected I've seen him with guests
is when they talk about 90 Day Fiancé.
It's hard to find other fans.
It's wild.
I was hoping when you were like,
I don't watch trash.
I'm going to co-sign this underrated.
Please don't say 90 Day Fiancé.
No, that's the best.
Are you kidding me?
The show is wild because people are so desperate to be in a relationship other people are either so desperate
just to have a partner other people are so desperate to move to the united states and other
times people are really legitimate couples and that warms your heart you sound like me this is
literally my pitch but then sometimes you see these whack people you're like y'all deserve all
this chaos you're a mess you're like fuck you you're a bad person explain the premise okay so the premise is there's such a thing called the
k1 visa which is the fiance visa so like these people fall in love with people who don't live
in america and then they go over there and that's one before the 90 days happen sure and then for
the actual 90 day fiance they come over and they have 90 days to decide whether they want to get
married or the other person goes back to their country wow and it is heavy and some of it is
like ridiculous that one dude the woman who's with michael in nigeria boy he was playing her
like a fiddle he's all like 800 from your account i don't know what you're talking about yeah she's
like why you got all these white women on your phone and he's like well and how come you don't have my picture he's like well if the police catch me
they won't think i'm a scammer like he has a finesse excuses for everything dude and she's 55
and he's like 30 she's giving up everything and i'm like girl what are you doing like you know
he's not he's not interested in you but she's again but this this is what's also heartbreaking
too because you're like i understand though for this she just needed companionship she found it online
and then just these people end up throwing all of their eggs into a basket here's my point though
i don't think that she was looking for love sincerely i think people like her the reason
i don't feel bad when she gets scammed is these are people who are looking for transactional
relationships okay she's looking to purchase somebody's affection and time right right she's
not looking to like oh should i meet a man who's also 55 who maybe you know understands my life a
little bit lives where i'm at whatever she's trying to live out her problematic fantasy
a fucking yeah hot black man who's 25 years younger. Right. And then for just very little money, I can own him.
And I'm like, dude, that's fucked up.
So I don't mind when you get fucked because I think your view on it is really problematic and shitty.
Because I don't think it's sincerely like putting in any of the work that you put in when you're actually trying to pursue a real loving relationship with somebody.
That's fair.
All right. We need to move on to your myth. loving relationship with somebody. That's fair. All right.
We need to move on to your myth.
And then we'll talk about Darcy and Jesse later.
Darcy and Jesse are the best.
I'm sorry.
I want to watch them fight every day of my life.
If that was a show, I would tune in every day to watch them fight.
I watch a live stream of them in the house.
I'm sorry.
We digress.
His weird accent.
I'm sorry, Darcy.
Yeah, he's a Dutch guy.
Do they stay together?
Hell no.
Fuck no, and it's great.
Well, she had to go back to the US, and she's like, yo, the bank says I have no money in my account.
I gave you my ATM card when we were in Nigeria.
And he's like, I don't know what you're saying.
He's like, what are you trying to say?
She's like, I'm saying I have no fucking money.
It's so good.
All right.
Myth.
Myth. Sorry. What right. Myth? Myth.
Sorry.
What is a myth?
What is something people think is true you know to be false?
I have four things on the list.
Welfare, Russians being cold people, communism, question mark, and cancer.
I'd like to know about Russians.
Russians are really hot in this country.
Yeah, I'm going to hop on that then.
That Russian people are cold.
Yeah, I think the impression is that russian people are
like kind of soulless ghouls right nothing going on yeah like you know like melania style you know
and i think the the misunderstanding is is that we don't have emotions or we're like not emotional
people unless we're like mad at you and then we're like very emotional and i think what the
misunderstanding is is our culture doesn't thrive on like small talk and things like that. We're very economical and we're very literary.
So I feel like people in America are very conversational and not very literary. And
the difference I think is, is like, well, when I first moved here, it was so crazy. Everybody's
just like, hi, how are you? And it was so confusing and strange to me.
I found it really off-putting because I'm like, I don't know you.
I don't know any of you.
This is so strange.
I'm in a store or I'm out or whatever.
And strangers are asking me how I am because we take that really sincerely.
I'm like, well, do you want me to tell you that my grandpa has dementia?
And I'm like very sad because I just visited him.
And I'm like, life is really transitory and we're all dying.
Because that's like essentially what every Russian is really thinking.
Meanwhile, it was someone just saying, how's it going?
And you're like, okay, so you've asked.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Here it comes.
Yeah.
And so there's a misunderstanding because either we share nothing or we share too much.
And then people are like, okay, you're a weirdo.
And we're like, well, you fucking asked right yeah yeah so we'd rather not do it so a lot
of times sometimes people would be like my russian neighbor has never said hi to me or like you know
and i'm like it's not what you think you know but if you've ever had an actual conversation with them
about something they'll say hi to you oh yeah on. But if you're just like, hey, how's it going?
Nope, that's not our style.
We don't do that.
So that's, I think, a misunderstanding.
And also, our language is very, very rich.
It has a lot more words for things and shades of meaning.
And shades of blue.
You have two words for blue.
I mean, I have a tattoo that says Tascar, which is like a word that doesn't even exist in English. It's a certain kind of like ennui or missing of a person or a thing that might not even exist.
It's like such a Russian word.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But yeah, we have so many things that are very like deeply emotional and nuanced that are in our written language.
So if you like read our literature, the reason our literature is so popular and like people really put it on a pedestal, put that pussy on a pedestal.
And by pussy, we mean the book Lolita.
Yes.
Just that book.
Only that one.
No, the reason people jizz themselves over Russian literature, it is that good.
It is that nuanced.
There's a lot of words and shades of meaning.
And language is very important, but I think we express ourselves more written and less like verbally.
And it takes a little bit to like get past the outer shell.
But then if you establish an actual genuine connection with a Russian,
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I grew up playing hockey.
So I had a lot of Russian Armenian and Russian like teammates.
And I learned very quickly.
I was like, no, this is a good time over here.
Well, I'm just glad that you've explained why you're so closed off and emotionally unavailable.
I was like, yo, Sophia, what's going on?
Yeah, she is quiet.
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And Michael, the Hurricane Michael
just kind of jumped up out of nowhere.
Oh, not the John Travolta movie?
Not the John Travolta movie.
Although that one really jumped out of nowhere. Oh, not the John Travolta movie? Not the John Travolta movie, although that one really jumped out of nowhere
to find a place in my heart.
But Michael, the hurricane started out as a storm.
It sort of had the opposite trajectory
of the other big hurricanes from this hurricane season.
Florence.
Yeah, Florence.
It was like, you know, as it was coming towards land,
they were like, this is going to be the biggest storm ever.
And then it sort of, I mean, it was still really bad, but it wasn't historic like the news was talking about.
Michael was a tropical storm.
And then in the night before it made landfall, it suddenly became one of the worst hurricanes.
It's apparently now the strongest hurricane to hit the United States since Andrew.
Hurricanes, men, and storm. Hurricanes, men, and storm.
Hurricanes, women, and storms, men.
No, I think it depends on what part of the sea or which sea they originate from, right?
I don't know.
Because Katrina was also coming up the Gulf Coast.
I think it's just-
How do they decide the gender?
I thought it maybe went every other.
It's because male versus female.
Isn't it so weird we have to gender our weather?
Yes.
Let's have a gender reveal party for this hurricane.
For this hurricane.
That's a good idea.
But yeah, it's interesting because I feel like this is something I've just noticed in general.
That like even on the local news how big the previous storm
was determines how big the coverage is going to be for an upcoming storm more than anything about
the storm because they just know that people if you just lived through like a big blizzard or
hurricane you're going to be paying extra special attention to like weather reports the next time
one of those is coming so they just just really play it up for you.
And I think we got the opposite of that with Michael
because Florence was touted as the storm of the century,
and then it ended up being tons of rain, tons of flooding,
but it wasn't this crazy news event.
And so they just kind of soft-played it,
kind of slow-rolled the coverage a little bit.
And it is, yeah, it's worse than all the other ones that we've been reading about year after year for the past, I guess, 20 something years.
I figured out the naming thing.
Okay, Miles.
It started off that storms that originated in the southern hemisphere, like they were giving male names for that.
Then they standardized it.
And now by 1979, they used men and women's names.
And now they just have a list that you just burn through each year.
Okay.
So in 2019, right now we're in 2018.
So it's Leslie, Michael, Nadine, Oscar, Patty, Raphael, Sarah.
Then 2019, they started the A's again.
Andrea, Barry, Chantal, Dorian, Aaron.
So now they have six lists, apparently, that they just rotate. They always start at the A's again. Andrea, Barry, Chantal, Dorian, Aaron. So it's just, you know, now they have six lists, apparently, that they just rotate.
They always start in the A's.
They don't just pick up where they left off.
So, like, Hurricane Xavier is never going to happen, or it will, like, once.
I don't know.
I think maybe they start at the A's once again.
They just go back to A.
Got it.
Yeah.
Well, that's solved that.
I know.
And first, when we were first doing, like, dry runs of the show that we didn't put out,
I think we did a whole segment when we were kind of talking about that and sort of the
naming convention, how initially it only had women's names first because they felt like
more men, like people would just pay attention or something.
Right.
Or then they gave it men's names because people were being dismissive of female-named hurricanes.
That's one of those facts that is really cute,
and I don't know if it's true.
I think I've looked into it before.
Well, I got this tattoo based on that.
Right, sorry.
But I've read that people are more likely to die in a hurricane
that is named after a woman because they're less scared of it
because of gender convention.
In addition to the fact that female hurricanes make 75 cents on the dollar.
Come on.
75 wins per the hour.
Right.
So they prepare less for them and therefore die more.
With this one, too, people have a lot of the,
I feel like Rick Scott was saying not as many people have evacuated
as they would have liked because things just kind of snuck up on everyone.
Yeah.
That's a little concerning.
And that puts the lie to the idea that names have anything to do with it.
For sure.
Because Michael is like, you got Jordan, you got Jackson, Tyson.
Tyson.
Come on.
Shannon.
Right, Michael Shannon.
Most importantly.
Dude, Hurricane Michael Shannon, everyone would evacuate.
I'm coming to destroy your seacoast.
I'm scared right now, but also a little turned on.
Yes.
Michael Shannon's confusing to me.
I agree.
You're telling me.
My energy is.
He's a complicated man.
Yeah, he is complicated.
And nobody understands him except the bartender serving him.
Except Mrs. Shannon.
Is he married?
I don't know.
But I invented a Mrs. Shannon right now and made you believe her.
What would she look like? What would she be like? Is he married? I don't know. But I invented a Mrs. Shannon right now and made you believe her.
What would she look like?
What would she be like?
I would hope that he's just with an amorphous god. Picture him with a wig.
Oh, and it just blew my mind.
Molly Shannon?
Oh, no.
Of course.
Wow, drop the bomb.
Drop the fucking bomb.
Well, speaking of power couples, guys.
I was thinking like tim burton's ex
helena bonham carter oh yeah be like i would get that couple i also see him that couple could get
it i just see him like kneeling before like an altar of energy right being like you are my wife
i would not be surprised if like we found out that he'd been playing a character this whole
time right yeah like michael shannon the person is just entirely different from what we've known
yeah i really want to be okay guys so i really enjoyed this it's been a super fun couple
decades i really love it i feel comfortable with myself and To let you guys know, this is who I am. His wife is a conventionally beautiful woman named Kate Arrington.
So there you go.
Is she British?
I have no idea.
Just saw a picture of her.
Is she related to LeVar Arrington?
I don't know.
Maybe a little British.
She's British-y.
One of the most convincing parts I've seen Michael Shannon in was as a stoner.
In Mud.
Have you seen that movie?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He just like, it's not what you would expect from him, but you can also totally buy it.
He's just a good actor, man.
Yeah.
He can bring it.
He can bring it.
Oh, acting.
Oh.
Okay, now I get it.
I love the idea that he's like, I was bowing into acting because I wanted to be an improv comedian.
Get this instead.
Sorry, you guys ruined a great segue earlier.
I know, yes.
Speaking of power couples.
Speaking of power couples, Melania and Donald Trump.
Whoa, drop the bomb.
It wasn't as good as I remembered it.
So Melania came with the ABC News interview where she said,
I do stand with women, but we need to show the evidence.
You cannot just say to somebody, I was sexually assaulted or you did that to me because sometimes
the media goes too far and the way they portray some stories, it's not correct.
I support the women and they need to be heard.
We need to support them and also men, not just women.
So strong take, very well thought out.
It's literally exactly the kind of meandering nothingness that her husband says.
Right.
Yeah, it's just such an easily taken down opinion.
But tell me, what evidence do you need?
It's not even an opinion.
Yeah.
It's just a bunch of words thrown together.
I think there needs to be evidence.
Oh, like people saying, yeah, Brett Kavanaugh was a pretty weird dude
and the stuff with the thing we all
are into this and evidence
and I believe me too
it's the all lives matter of
you know sexual assault
I support women
and men
well good because they need your support
but also imagine that statement flipped and being
like you know I support men who are complaining about sexual abuse but Well, good, because they need your support. But also imagine that statement flipped and being like,
you know, I support men who are complaining about sexual abuse,
but, you know, so we do need to show evidence,
and really I support their abusers also.
People would never say that. Right.
It's such an odd thing to say, but, hey, you know,
that's sort of what the new culture war is right now.
What about the men, though? But imagine,
yeah, seriously, imagine it was priests.
Like, the priest abuse scandal.
Like, just be like, yeah, well, we have to think
about the priests, too. Right, right.
They did, yeah. They did think about
the priests. Right, hey, you're good, man. They did for
30 years, and now we're like, yo, that was...
Would you love a new boy to love
in another state? Right. I mean,
that's literally what they did. Yeah. We'll send you to a town that's never heard of you or the love in another state. Right. I mean, that's literally what they did.
Yeah.
We'll send you to a town that's never heard of you or the crimes you've committed.
Yeah.
And Trump put out a similarly cogent and just well-reasoned argument in the auspicious pages of the USA Today.
On October 10th, he dropped a op-ed about Medicare for all because that is becoming very popular in America, the idea of giving universal health care in the United States.
That being able to live is a right, not a luxury good.
Right.
Not a luxury good.
That's crazy talk.
What are you even saying?
in Post who has their fact checking team, like a team that is just dedicated to pointing out when he's lying, said in his op-ed, almost every sentence contained a misleading statement
or a falsehood.
So that's impressive.
Wow.
That's an impressive feat of lying that you would be able to just fit a lie in every sentence.
Well, because the argument for universal healthcare is so strong and hard to take down that,
yeah, of course, you'd have to just be like, I mean, it's going to lead to healthy people.
What else are you going to say?
And then all you can do is just raise the specter of radical socialists.
Yeah.
But yeah, sure.
socialists yeah but yeah sure there's a trend going on on the right where like on drudge on fox news they're covering this new trend where they they're worried that the left is going to
kill them rand paul has uh said that his wife sleeps with a gun under her pillow because she's
afraid that liberals are gonna come and try and murder her in her pillow because she's afraid that liberals are going to come
and try and murder her in her sleep.
That's the first good news I've heard in like weeks.
But it's not pointed at her.
I think it's under her.
I mean, it's easier to shoot yourself in the face if your gun's under your pillow than
at any other time.
It's hanging on a mobile above the bed.
Yeah.
She's like, I don't understand metaphor. And Drudge is conveniently
pulling little pieces of quotes. He has one of his headlines is Eric Holder, when Republicans go low,
we kick them, which is just like him doing a play on the when they go low, we go high thing.
A Hillary time for civility is over is also a quote that they're putting all over the
place.
It's just crazy to me that and they're trying to act like there is a violent uprising on
the left that is coming for the Fox News viewers of the world.
So Tucker Carlson was covering this coming wave of left-wing violence. Also, you will see them talking about civil war being an inevitability all over the place, and that's rarely discussed on the left. and the idea that Antifa is going to kill all the Christians in the world or whatever.
And his guest made a very valid point, and we'll hear how he deals with that point.
The violence that we're seeing across the country isn't really coming from the left,
but actually from the right.
You could show clips tonight of D you know, Dylann Roof
preparing to kill people in a church in Charleston or clips of many of the other white supremacists
who've gone on and killed people, like in Charlottesville last year with Heather Heyer.
But on both sides. No, no, you're owning me in this. I can't let this happen.
So right now, well, actually, yes, you heard Maxine Waters say get in people's faces in restaurants and gas stations.
Tucker, that's not violence.
She's calling for a peaceful protest.
Well, actually, if you scream at someone to the point where they have to leave the restaurant, that is, I don't know, violence.
That's an act of wild aggression, I would say.
Oh, and we're the snowflakes?
That's the best they could come up with?
It's always so annoying when the right categorizes
the left defending as offending.
It always just blows my mind.
It's like people saying, oh, when we don't want
to make a cake for gay people, that's fine.
But when we don't want to serve you in for gay people, that's fine. Right.
But when we don't want to serve you in a restaurant because you're putting children in cages, you're violent for saying that.
That's ridiculous.
And all the left ever does is say things like, it's time to end civility.
And they're like, you're so violent.
I'm like, we just said that.
We didn't do anything.
We just said that we were not going to be civil.
That's as much as we ever do.
I wish Democrats were more violent.
I think there's an inherent.
I mean, I don't mean.
Yes, I know what you mean.
But yeah, this is going to be on the front page.
CIA, FBI, please flag this.
No, I specifically mean we should be more offensive in our political tactics.
And I don't think that we should feel bad. But that's a sort of violence.
Being offensive is a sort of violence.
If you listen to Tucky Carl babies.
Yeah.
I went to GW and I've been to Crossfire and watched him live.
And watching a little boy feel like a big boy.
Yeah.
It's wild, man.
I mean, it's all in self-preservation, though.
That's the only way they can frame their actions is to be like, well, if we're completely infallible and right, then that's the only way I can protect myself from these people's valid criticisms and takedowns of my actions.
But I think there's also a deep and inherent right-leaning ideology at the core of American values.
of American values. And that's why, like, I don't think people like the fact that the Oklahoma city bombing was a right wing person who like right wing militia member, like if that was any other
cause, that would be what we remember it as the, you know, right. Left wing communist bombing or
the, you know, whatever the Islamic attack, but because it was right wing, we just like view it as like a one off, like a lone wolf
guy or whatever.
Well, yeah, because I think that's what even with Kavanaugh, we've realized we look at
the actions of white men and be like, oh, he's just being a boy or like he's just being
a domestic terrorist.
They get to fail up.
Yeah.
White men get to fail up.
And we talk about this a lot, too, about how, you know, there are dudes who are taking bombs to airports,
like white men who are trying to make their own improvised explosive devices and booby trap shit,
or people trying to hop on Amtrak trains with knives and shit.
But I think in general, it's quick to just put those back there and like, of course, yeah, it's America, guys.
Right.
There's going to be crazy conservative people who do wild shit.
Right. Can we move on? But we just forget about it. Because this black kid had a hoodie on. Right. yeah it's america guys right there's gonna be crazy conservative people who do wild shit right
can we can we move on but we just forget about it because this black kid had a hoodie on right
and that's what we need to talk about yeah and you see it in everyday stuff like police shootings
but that ends up getting blown up to the level of being written across our history we just you know
we remember the oklahoma city bombing is the work of some lone lunatic with a buzz cut. And we remember
the shooting in the church as being just like some random racist and not connecting it to this broad
right wing ideology that is, you know, becoming more violent and more extreme in America.
I mean, I think the one point would be the guy who shot Steve Scalise. I mean, like he he was,
I get like on his things, he was saying, like,
we have to bring Trump down and company
or whatever. He definitely had.
I mean, I'm surprised Tucker Carlson didn't
bring that up. That would have been the closest thing he had
to try and validate his point there.
But yeah, even with Rand Paul,
there was that tweet that was going around that everyone
had the same take on when it was like,
Rand Paul, I'm worried that, quote, someone
is going to be killed because of political climate. I'm worried that, quote, someone is going to be killed
because of political climate.
And everyone's like, yeah,
her name is Heather Heyer.
Like, what the fuck are you talking about?
When I was in college,
I was illegally arrested at a protest
and then became part of a class action lawsuit
against the Metropolitan Police Department
for the way they detain people and stuff.
Like, they had us hogtied
right hand to left foot for over 12 hours stuff like that and um it's interesting because i feel
i feel like sometimes we have short memories and we think like oh this is like happening and it's
terrible and it's for the first time and when i remember how bad and like bleak things were during the Bush administration
I mean I'm like I think it's just we were so traumatized we forgot that it was as bad as it
was and now it seems charming because he's like an old man who's playing with his raincoat you
know outside because he probably has dementia but it's not you know it wasn't charming then
and I think like we forgot the Patriot Act. We forgot like how terrible and scary it was. At that point, I was just a resident like legal alien instead of a citizen. And I was like, oh, I could get, you know, literally from this arrest, they could get bad like this again. But I do think that we have to keep in mind
that what you were saying about the right wing agenda, all that stuff is connected over years
too. Those people who were active during the Bush administration that came out, we saw a bunch of
skinheads and stuff that would come out to protest to try to like mess with us and try to beat us up. And, you know, they always get bold and more active when the general feeling in the country is that this is more permissible.
Yeah, absolutely.
And we shouldn't forget that like that Oklahoma bombing and Dylann Roof and the skinheads that came out during Bush and, you know, the National Alliance, all those people, they are all the same.
It's that same wave of hate and xenophobia that just gets to come out more when someone
is in charge who condones it.
And meanwhile, the right, if somebody who is Muslim attacks a country, they're just
like, well, we can go to war with Iraq because that country also is majority Muslim.
And there are a lot of contracts to be added.
Yes, but they're, you know.
Yeah, I mean, all they just need is that justification.
They'll connect anybody who has the same hair color.
It's also the same in entertainment, right?
It's like if a movie comes out that is fronted by women or directed by a woman
and everybody touts that and the movie's not good,
it's like the movie is bad because it's woman-oriented.
And it's like if the same happens if a movie is like a quote-unquote black movie.
And it's like, oh, well, a black star didn't bring in the box office.
People don't care about watching black people.
And that's not really the case, obviously.
Right.
So, Miles, you were making the point earlier that there's sort of a knock-on effect happening with our authoritarian president and the rest of the world.
As we were talking yesterday about the journalist Jamal Khashoggi going missing, basically, at the Saudi consulate in Turkey.
Going murdered, probably. missing basically at the uh saudi consulate in turkey going murdered yeah and then like now
we're finding more out about how this was pretty much like the u.s even like intercepted communications
where they're like let's figure out how we're gonna get this guy back to saudi arabia i just
i'm just remembering all these other stories right like russia is out here just trying to
people on foreign soil uh you have the Chinese detained their former chief of Interpol
on some weird corruption charges that no one can really quite explain.
And now we have this with Mohammed bin Salman acting real wild
because I'm sure Jared Kushner was like,
it's all good, baby, look, we got this, do whatever you want to do.
And even if he didn't specifically or explicitly say it,
it's like they understood.
Yeah, they're working together.
And we have this really sordid relationship with Saudi Arabia where we're willing to just completely turn our backs to everything they do.
But I just realized, you know, with past presidents, at the very least, there was some semblance of trying to at least have the appearance that they're trying to stand for people's freedoms.
And then, you know, punishing countries or people, the transgressors
saying, uh, no, like here's a Magnitsky act for you. Like now, now try and handle that because
you're acting out of pocket. How about we sanction you or this and that? And with Trump, he loves
strong men and he's an absolute novice at diplomacy that now all these other strong men, like leaders
are just like, oh shit, it's open season. So now everyone's just doing the most like really aggressively to have like,
you know, I'm sure obviously many of these countries have been suppressing
dissident voices from forever.
But I think now when we have such aggressive or out in the open,
just sort of acts like this, it's really just showing, oh, wow.
America, like America is no longer perceived as the person who's going to be
like, I don't i mean we've been demoted from the world's policemen to the world to the world's malls
security guard we've just abandoned it we're just snapping outside the mall we're not doing shit
no if anything we're at the food courts just watching shit like oh shit just encouraging
people's fighting yeah like get that world star whatever it is we're just we're the enablers now
and it's just interesting like when you sort of look at everything star whatever it is we're just we're the enablers now and it's
just interesting like when you sort of look at everything that the the effects we're just not
feeling it in this country too right we're we're seeing these authoritarian regimes get a little
more just a little more confident and a little more intense with their tactics and yeah just
shows you like granted we have our own domestic issues that we're always kind of like lamenting about.
But then there's this other thing too
that now that we've sort of just completely,
you know, totally abandoned the role
as even pretending to be the fighters of,
defenders of freedom or whatever,
that yeah, we have all this kind of stuff going down.
And the details now that are coming out
about the Saudi journalists kidnapping is wild.
Like there was a 15 man hit squad sent from saudi arabia on private jets to turkey and they they weren't even in
country for like 24 hours like they got there tuesday morning and they were like on a plane
back later that night and one of the people that turkey they're saying like they have footage of
these people coming into the country or whatever and they say they've ID'd most of these people. They're saying one guy was a forensic scientist who was carrying a bone saw.
What?
That was his luggage into Turkey.
And you're like, what kind of dark shit?
And they're saying that was to probably dismember his body.
Right.
So he could be taken out in bags.
Right.
Because he went into the consulate and never came out.
Exactly.
And now we don't know.
And now since we have this presidency where Jared Kushner is meant to be like, hey, you and Mohammed bin Salman figure out the Middle East.
Secret genius.
Yes.
Hidden genius.
Hidden genius.
Hidden genius.
Jared Kushner.
And everybody in the administration is humming and hawing when journalists are asking like hard questions about this.
Like, yo, what is going on?
Yeah.
Are you going to do something?
It makes me really nervous because like one thing that was scary about like growing up, you know, in the USSR was like you always knew and heard that like, you know, people who were considered the voice of the people like eventually like generally get murdered or they like escape.
And one thing that was always like, you're like, this can't get better because the country's kind of ruled by this greed and desire for money at the people at the very top. That's like how Russia's functioned for a while.
And Putin is like the classic money hungry president that will say and do whatever to just keep profiting.
And I think before, when we didn't have Trump in office, people around the world who are like shady political people that, you know, use politics to make money were like, OK, well, it's only decent to make this much money.
And it was like, you know, it's still a crazy amount.
But they were like, no, let's cap it at this many billions.
You know, yeah, let's like let's not let's not look like we're just really pillaging the earth for this. And I think ever since Trump's come into office, they've realized he has no respect for anything. And he's so money driven, having been bankrupt for so long that he's willing to sell anything
out.
And then they realize like, oh, it's open season, like what you were saying.
But I think it's like open season on greed.
Like you don't have to pretend politically anymore.
You are now just like, oh, straight up.
We're in politics to make the most amount of money through however many corporations can help us do that.
Yeah, I think that's an underrated aspect of Putin is that he's I hadn't realized this until I was like reading an article on the Panama Papers that he's believed to be like illegitimately, but in terms of all
of his assets, he's probably the richest man in the history of the world. He just stores his money
in his friends. Yeah. I think it's at least you can partially point the finger at Trump,
but I also think it's possible that Trump and all the other strongmen are rising up from sort of this destabilized condition of,
you know, we exist in a new atmosphere with social media and, you know, the economy is
totally changing. And I don't know, like partially I think it's that we have a strongman
in the lead of a country that used to be the lifeguard who was like kind of watching out.
But also I think the same stuff that's causing all these other strong men in other countries is what caused Trump,
you know?
Sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If it's wet and swampy everywhere,
there's going to be mushrooms all over the place.
What a beautiful metaphor.
Yeah.
Russian people love mushroom metaphors.
We have like a thousand mushroom sayings.
Yeah, because mushrooms are a big part of the food culture.
Yeah, it really is.
Yeah.
All right.
We're going to take another quick break.
We'll be right back.
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What was that?
You didn't figure it out?
I think I need to hear you say it.
That was live audio of a woman's nightmare.
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One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson.
I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman.
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And we're back.
And the Dow fell 800 points today, guys.
And I don't know what that means.
And nobody can explain in plain English why it's happening.
This is actually, so trying to figure out why the fuck this this is happening and why it matters at their job, like a monkey who throws a dart at a dart
board can do just as well as them. And I just wonder if the whole financial sector is so opaque
and just convoluted because they're trying to obscure the fact
that their job is completely meaningless and pointless.
I mean, there's a lot of, like, I'm not making up the idea that the market is random.
There's, like, famous books, like, fooled by randomness and shit.
Would you just kill yourself, though, if you finished your MBA?
You got that coveted job.
You're like $100,000 in debt.
And like you're schooling.
And then you're like, oh, my God, there is no rhyme or reason to this.
I mean, I think I would just jump out on one day.
I got a master's in Dothraki.
Yeah, essentially.
So there's a CNN article that had the subhead, why stocks are plunging.
And I just wanted to read from it for you guys.
Tech is taking its lumps because bond yields have climbed in recent weeks, hovering at a more than seven-year high.
Although that's largely because the U.S. economy is so strong, the spike in rates for the benchmark U.S. 10-year treasury has investors wondering if the near decade-old bull market may finally be ending.
Ending.
Spending.
Right.
That was a weird summary because it was like things are great, but probably are going to end terribly.
Yeah.
And like I know what a couple of those things mean, but they were like this positive indicator is the reason that this market is going down.
This market is going down and it's just like, I feel like it's a lot of people who like are trying to, and also I don't know shit about this part of the economy.
The zeitgeist. And there's plenty of smart people who work on that shit.
But I just feel like if it actually made sense, then why wouldn't you talk about it in English?
There's a person in the video that they have like excerpted in that article.
His advice is move forward, but with caution, which what was the.
First of all, that's like the terrible fortune cookie that you open.
Well, this isn't a fortune.
This is just advice.
That always makes me so mad.
It's just vague advice that like is vague enough to be true every time.
Right.
Yeah.
As opposed to freezing time and being reckless, that would be the other option.
Yeah, it's like a horoscope.
It's like some things are changing in your life, then things are remaining the same.
Boom.
Wow.
They really know me.
And you're a psychic?
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
I'm a psychic.
Something I was not aware of until my good friend Adam Johnson NYC on Twitter
quote about it yesterday was that there was a Guardian article back in July of 2017
that I guess it was about a study that said that 100 corporations are responsible
for 71% of global greenhouse gas emissions.
I saw that.
That made me so depressed.
That's fucking...
Well, it makes me less depressed
because when you think that it's like,
well, it's just all of us
and we can't change our shitty behavior
and so there's no hope.
That's one thing.
But when it's just 100 companies
that are just fucking causing
all of these problems for us,
it's like, why can't we do something about that?
That does seem like something that you could rein in.
Granted, these are multi-billion dollar companies
like ExxonMobil, Shell, BP, and Chevron, but...
You would need a team of superheroes legitimately to shut that down.
I have less hope in that than I do.
Like every person in America recycling every day.
Right, right.
But I mean, Adam tweeted this in response to somebody.
I think it was CNN tweeted an article that was like,
scientists say that global warming could reach
disastrous levels within 20 years.
Here are four things you can do to stop it.
And it's like, stop using plastic straws
and shit like that.
Oh, okay.
And he was like, actually,
this is the only thing that would actually change things if
we start regulating corporations.
See, but at least this news kind of makes sense and makes you feel like you learned
something.
Or is like the news right before that about the financial situation.
Imagine if you went to the doctor and the doctor was like, things are going great, but you will probably die soon.
Yeah.
What?
Be optimistic.
I don't know what to do with my life now.
So I feel like at least when we're learning about the corporation thing, it's like, oh, okay, well, then it's just fucking regulation and voting and I don't know what else.
Hoping that there's fewer Trumps than there are Obamas.
Right.
This list should be like fucking Arya Stark's list that people just read in their minds every day.
That's just like China's coal, Saudi Arabian oil company, Gazprom.
Yeah.
I mean, I think the one thing, like you say, it's good to know that we can sort of bring a little more focus onto like,
here are a hundred entities that need to actually sort their
shit out not fucking somebody who is telling you to use a metal straw or reusable bag or twisty
light bulb and shit like that but like looking at these companies and then yeah what do we we
boycott we divest we need other people to step in the fold to so we can rely less on like traditional
uh fossil fuels right i mean yeah
it's really mind-blowing to know that in this list from uh carbon emissions from 88 to 2015
china is like blowing everybody out from the coal burning but i know they've trying to get a lock on
that but my goodness yeah and i mean even the idea of boycott and divest is the sort of thing that if there's not any...
Alternative.
Yeah, and if there's not any corporate level regulation, then that just puts you at a competitive disadvantage.
Because you're just having to be like, well, I'm not going to drive.
I'm going to walk to work today and wear my ass out while somebody else is going for that same job is able to drive to work
because they don't give a shit.
And like,
eventually that sort of thing doesn't work on an individual by individual
basis.
So you need to,
you need to actually do like big swings.
I think voting is like probably.
Yeah.
And just knowing when politicians start talking that dumb shit,
like,
well,
you know,
the science is I'm like,
no, get the fuck out of here. Clean coal. Right, you know, the science is. I'm like, no.
Get the fuck out of here.
Just clean coal.
Right.
Just slap them right in the face.
That's what I'm just saying.
What scientists need to do, the end game should be identify like what parts of the globe will be least disturbed by global warming and the parts that will be worst hit.
And everybody registers if you're a believer or non-believer.
And if you don't believe it, we ship you off to that shitty part of the world
so you're not bothering us,
the people who bother to give a fuck
about the future of the planet.
And y'all can be so confident
in the fucking burning desert.
That sounds awesome,
but how do we make all the tsunamis go there?
Yeah, I don't know.
Tsunami Island.
I'm just getting ready for a water world.
New on Fox, Tsunami Island.
When the world is ending,
can you find your other half?
What side are you on?
Are you a voice actress?
That was really good.
Thank you so much.
Yeah, that's great.
Fox, call me.
Yeah.
But otherwise, I'm just investing in jet skis.
Yeah, Waterworld would be dope, and I will learn Portugreek,
which is the language they spoke in that weird interview.
Yeah, they're like saying, I just remember Kevin Costner's like,
it's Portugreek. And I was like, that's not a language I like that your Kevin Costner is the same as your Donald Trump yeah it's
Portugreek I remember watching that movie at that Magic Johnson Theatre with
my grandpa and he's an older black man.
Have you seen Waterworld, the Universal Studios show?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fuck yeah.
I remember afterwards he would be like, yo, that would be scary, huh?
I remember as a kid, it was like in the 90s.
And we're like, yeah, that shit ain't happening.
And then we're like, oh, okay, it's a version of this for sure.
It's just coming clear.
Yeah.
And I mean, the reason that this is in the zeitgeist right now
is because there was
that terrifying report
from the UN
about how we are all fucked
within our lifetimes.
You know what though?
Waterworld did have
a tremendous impact on me though
because I really thought,
God damn,
the polar ice caps could melt
and everything's water.
Yeah.
And I actually had this anxiety
in the back of my head
for many years as a kid
until I read like some takedown of a scientist and be like, that's not what would happen. Right. And I actually had this anxiety in the back of my head for many years as a kid until I
read like some takedown of a scientist to be like, that's not what would happen.
Right.
And I was like, all right, we're good.
I love that your biggest worry was water world.
Yeah, it fucked me up for a little bit.
I was like, damn, because I hated swimming.
So I was like, yo, that's my worst fucking nightmare is being in a fucking water world.
A lot of cities are going to be underwater though.
Yeah.
Oh no, for sure.
Water world. But like, not that the cities are going to be underwater, though. Yeah. Oh, no, for sure. Water world.
But not that the entire earth would then be covered in water.
But New York and Miami, there are going to be a lot of beachfront properties that you'll
have 500 yards off and into the ocean are big skyscrapers because there's going to be
a lot of weird shit in our future.
Hey, speaking of science, guys, physicists have unlocked the mystery of the water bottle flip.
Yes.
Explain this to me, Miles.
I'm just so glad that the scientists at the University of Twente in Holland-
Took the time.
Shout out to FC Twente.
They took their time to understand the bottle flip
because for people
who don't know,
now if you're one
of our older listeners,
the bottle flip
was that dumb shit
you saw kids doing
back in 2016
where seemingly
people were just
throwing trash in the air
and seeing if the bottle
would land right side up
after one flip.
A lot of people
were used to do it
but then there was
that one clip
of a kid doing it
at a talent show
and the whole auditorium
losing their shit that that really kicked off the trend a kid doing it at a talent show and the whole auditorium losing their shit.
That really kicked off the trend of people
using it as a bit.
The sweet, sweet
entertainment of 2016.
Weren't those simpler times?
That Lord Vader video.
Oh, the job interview?
Whoa, if y'all want to see a dramatic
bottle flip video, King Vader, do you have
any special skills, is the name of that video.
Yeah, King Vader is a genius.
Just everybody should be checking him out.
So anyway, these scientists were like, let's figure out what the secret is.
And they kind of did it.
So apparently the consensus is that the motion of the bottle through the air causes the liquid to climb up the sides, duh, thereby redistributing the mass and increasing the bottle's moment
of inertia.
That has a damping effect on the rotation, slowing it down just enough in time to stick
the landing.
Of course we knew that, motherfucker.
But what's the secret?
How do I start hustling people for money like this because I have the scientific actual
key?
Right.
Now, they don't really know that part.
But they do have a good tip for you of how much to fill your bottle.
And that is between 25 and 33%.
Oh, interesting.
That's the sweet spot of the fluid in the bottle.
They didn't really talk about shapes or anything like that, but I'll take it.
Does this end with an ice bucket challenge?
I wish it did.
And then Kylie Lip Challenge.
Kylie Lip Challenge.
Just let's jam all of it together.
Can you do all of these yeah and then uh
what was the one the super dance one that had all the fucking dances in it oh yeah evolution of the
dance no no that like it came in where like you you hit the folks you hit you every like dance
move was in it like you whipped you nayed man oh that was like a challenge it was a challenge that
was like 2017 i might be off my game a little bit, my meme game.
But anyway, look, in case you are someone who has a time machine,
and you can go back in time to 2016 when people gave a fuck about bottle flipping,
please use this tip to your advantage. This is an example of the science world and the humanities world
just not being connected at all,
because it's the scientific
world being like hey a meme cool let's like examine it and the thing they found out is like
so fucking boring i'm just like the explanation is like yeah no shit like all you did is just put
that into like science speak and like you just said the water climbed down the sides and made
the bottle wasted two years of your life well Well, but now I got a PhD.
Right, exactly.
Why are those scientists not working on global warming?
Seriously.
I'm sure they probably did it very quickly.
They're like, let's take a quick break from humanity's death
and find out what's up with this bottle.
Could you imagine that they began this study in 2016
when that video came out?
They're like, we have to figure this out.
And we finally figured it out.
Fill up the bottle between one-fourth and one-third.
Sophia, it has been a pleasure having you on this podcast.
Where can people find you?
People can find me on Twitter at TheSophia, T-H-E-S-O-F-I-Y-A.
And I have a podcast called Reality Bites, Bites with a Y.
And an episode just dropped today with your lovely producer, Anna.
Yeah.
And Shereen from Ethnically Ambiguous.
And it's one of our favorite, actually, episodes ever.
What do you guys get into?
We get into being foreign and being queer.
And it gets kind of really emotional.
Okay.
In like a great way.
I don't care for emotional.
Yeah.
You're going to hate it, Jack.
He just listens to Static.
Yeah.
It's his favorite podcast.
Nice and dry.
You just saw Stars Born and now he's just dry.
Yeah.
He's done nothing.
He doesn't know what to do.
I tried to cry after that and just couldn't.
And is there a tweet you've been enjoying?
Yeah.
There's two.
One, I want to give support to Ariel Dumas' tweet.
She's that Colbert writer that got all that
heat for tweeting glad we ruined brad kavanaugh's life which was obviously sarcastic considering
he's a supreme court justice but people got really mad at that and she apologized for it and i just
want to say don't apologize you were awesome fuck them it's a great joke yeah you heard me
literally just a sarcastic joke from a Colbert writer.
And people got mad at her?
Yeah.
What did she say?
She said, I'm glad we ruined Brat Kavanaugh's life,
which was clearly, again, sarcastic.
Yeah, and also, he ruined his own life, if anything.
His actions caught up to him.
He ruined multiple women's lives.
Stop acting.
That's the other weird thing of like, you ruined him. It's like, nah, karma caught up to him. You ruined multiple women's lives. So stop acting. That's the other weird thing of like, you ruined him.
It's like, nah, karma caught up to him.
He just got a lifetime job.
How did we ruin him?
She can't return to her home still because of the endless death threats.
Anyway, so that's fucked up.
And then this tweet by Aparna.
Aparna Nancherla.
Everyone who thinks climate change is a hoax.
Who exactly do you think benefits from decreasing pollution?
Big everyone?
Yeah. I love that one too decreasing pollution? Yeah. Big everyone?
Yeah.
I love that one too.
I love that. Big everyone.
Miles, where can people find you?
You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray.
Now, a tweet that I like is, you know, usually I just love reductress because they're so
efficient with their words.
And there's two that I like.
One is because I really identify with this.
You know how you get reusable bags and them shits just add up?
Yep.
So this is a reductress one for people out there with a lot of tote bags.
It says, plan for the future now by determining who to bequeath your tote bags to.
I have a fucking cabinet that literally just spills out.
Same here.
It's too much.
And I'm like, why do I keep grabbing?
Even if they're free, why do I even take them?
I'm like, bitch, put them in your trunk so you have them when you go grocery shopping.
And I think this is actually an old one.
I'm not entirely sure, but I feel like it is because the construction is very similar.
And it is, you're not my type, says man whose dream is to fuck a cartoon.
That's good.
You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.
Shout out to Bechdelcast,
which just published its 100th episode,
and they are doing Just a Jamie and Caitlin episode
where they're doing Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Yeah.
Where they're 100th ep.
Such a good show.
It is growing out of control.
There won't be many episodes left for you guys.
It's so popular.
So hurry up and get it now while you still can.
Because the downloads will vanish.
They will vanish if you're not quick.
A couple tweets I like.
David Roth quote,
two nights ago during the Red Sox-Yankees game,
he said,
every crowd shot at Yankee Stadium has two different alternate universe
AJ Sopranos in it.
It's beautiful.
Which is so fucking true.
And Steph S. Stone, or Steph Stone, quote,
I knew while it was happening that laughing too hard at that waiter's joke
today was going to haunt me in the night.
You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.
We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.
We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com,
where we post our episodes and our footnotes.
We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode
as well as the song we ride out on.
That information is also in the show notes.
Miles, what song are we going to ride out on. That information is also in the show notes. Show notes. Miles, what song are we going to ride out on?
Oh, well, first, I think we need to give a big thank you to James at Yemis.
The man came through today to help us celebrate our one year anniversary with some of the
greatest pizza I have ever had.
And I will continue to say that is some of the best pizza I've ever had.
It's real good.
One of her teeth fell out, I think.
She has
bacon from the pizza.
Bacon in your polo shirt.
We only work with professionals here.
Also, that LA Times food critic.
Also, that's the name of my band.
That LA Times food critic
Jonathan Gold, who just passed away,
he called this the best pizza he's ever had.
And we stick by it.
That's our number one, okay?
And when our pockets are a little bit lighter, that's when I go to Domino's.
But you know what?
If James keeps coming through, then I'll eat it.
But, yes, thank you, James, so much.
You made this feel very special.
The song that we're going to go out on is by an artist called Tajima Hall.
And it's called For A While.
And again, just a nice laid
back kind of groove just to get
you in the mood. Is it that song?
It's been a while. No.
Since I could pull my head
up high. It's been a while.
Okay. I wish I did
It's been one year.
Yeah, for our one year anniversary, but I didn't.
Oh, no.
I'll just live with that till I die.
All right.
We are going to ride out on that.
We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast.
We'll talk to you guys then.
Bye.
Bye. Listen for a while Listen for a while
Listen for a while Thank you. Bye. Listen for a while
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Kay hasn't heard from her sister
in seven years.
I have a proposal for you.
Come up here and document my project.
All you need to do is record everything like you always do.
What was that?
That was live audio of a woman's nightmare.
Can Kay trust her sister, or is history repeating itself?
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One was the protege of Charles Manson.
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The other, a middle-aged housewife
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