The Daily Zeitgeist - Millennials Ruining Exhaustion, Mike Pence School Of Bad Improv 1.9.19
Episode Date: January 9, 2019In episode 305, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Megan Gailey to discuss the burnout generation, Trump's lack of knowledge about how the government shut down goes who it impacts, the continuous p...ush for a border wall by the right, the lie Trump told about Syria, Kevin Spacey's delusional come back plan, pizza math, and more! Plus Behind The Bastards Robert Evans and super producer Anna Hossnieh join to discuss the story of the young Saudi woman trying to escape her family.FOOTNOTES: 1. How Millennials Became The Burnout Generation2. My Family Abducted And Tricked Me Into A Forced Marriage3. Saudi teenager who fled her family allowed to stay in Thailand for now4. Flying without a man: The mysterious case of Dina Ali5. “Which former presidents told President Trump, as he said, that he should’ve built a wall? All their representatives have denied that that was the case.” @halliejackson to @VPMike Pence6. OH: TRUMP DIDN’T REALIZE A GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN WOULD SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT7. Millions face delayed tax refunds, cuts to food stamps as White House scrambles to deal with shutdown’s consequences8. Delta, United, and JetBlue pilots are warning that flying will become more dangerous as government shutdown continues9. To build the wall, Trump is sacrificing airport security during the government shutdown10. ‘No different from my original statements’: Trump denies changes to Syria exit plan11. Fox News host fact-checks Sarah Sanders12. Kevin Spacey pleads not guilty in Nantucket court to indecent assault13. Kevin Spacey pulled over for speeding hours after appearing in court14. Kevin Spacey is plotting a comeback — and ‘is still getting acting offers’15. An 18-inch pizza has more pizza than two 12-inch pizzas, and people are losing it16. WATCH: Saba - SIRENS ft. theMIND (Official Video) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 64, Episode 3 of
The Daily Zeitgeist!
The podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness
using the headlines, box office reports, TV ratings,
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It's Wednesday, January 9th, 2019.
My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jack on Track,
which is what we are now that we are once again joined
by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray!
Bermuda, McDonald's, come on, little Donald.
Mar-a-Lago What ego
Baby why don't he go down to smoke a bowl
Derzeit podcast
And then we'll make you woke
Miles said he's down to roll
Up one
Come down and smoke a bowl
Wait do you smoke weed?
I've tried it
I tried it for the first time in Japan
That's crazy, man.
The weed there is very strong.
Is it?
So strong that I quit weed right after that.
No, you don't want to smoke weed in Japan.
It's the laws.
They fucking almost banned Paul McCartney's ass for life.
Drugs are a big deal in Asia.
Yeah, well, it's funny because there's loopholes, too.
Like MDMA, if you cooked it up in your house, you could sell it on the street.
And then only seven or eight years ago, they tightened that up.
Like you could walk on the street and some dude had a suitcase.
It's like, yeah, MDMA.
Oh, really?
But just MDMA.
Well, I mean, yeah, ecstasy, like as long as it was ecstasy.
But they were like, we like ecstasy.
Well, they didn't realize that like there was a way to.
They didn't know what it was.
Yeah, yeah, like psychedelic drugs, like were kind of, they tightened a lot.
They were like, what does that tell?
Yeah, yeah. Anyway, that was, were kind of, they tightened a lot. They were like, what does that tell? Yeah, yeah.
Anyway, that was from just TDZAKA's.
First person put in fucking work.
I know, man.
I got to start digging into those.
But Super Producer Nick Stumpf was like, hey, maybe we don't sing the AKAs this year.
Put me in my head because I'm a bad singer.
But Miles just tore his shirt.
All right.
Well, we are thrilled to be joined in
our third seat by the hilarious
stand-up comedian you know from Crooked Media's
Hysteria and Love It or Leave It
and the NFL's Twitter show that
checked down. She is
the hilarious Megan Gailey.
Hi. I thought you were going to add Blue Diamond
on. Oh, yeah. You know what?
Your sound guy had to hear me have a conversation
on the phone earlier.
And it wasn't even about Blue Diamond Almonds.
The Blue Diamond Almonds came up.
Oh, really?
Oh, yeah.
People bring it up to me.
Oh.
Call you Blue Diamond Phillips.
Well, yeah.
There was a man at like a bagel store staring at me.
Just like staring, staring, staring.
And I went up and I was like, almonds.
And he's like, I don't know what you're talking about.
I thought he was a fan of my work.
Maybe he was just a fan of my face.
Very symmetrical.
Thank you.
Actually, I feel like I've got a crooked eye.
All right.
Do you?
Shout out to the rapper Crooked Eye.
Maybe there's an eye lower.
I don't know.
There's definitely photos where I'm like, that eye is going somewhere.
Not like looking. Going places? It's like where it's placed. No, your face is perfectly I'm like, that eye is going somewhere. Yeah. Not like looking.
It's like where it's placed.
No, your face is perfectly similar.
I think that eye has a career.
And that's why I say that eye is going somewhere.
Do you even know which eye I'm talking about?
Fuck no.
I think it's my right eye's lower.
Obviously, we are our own worst critics when looking at pictures of ourselves.
Yeah, true.
Oh my God, that's my fucked eye.
Oh my God.
I like a bad picture of me.
Oh yeah.
From time to time though.
Let the people know. Listen, I'm like bad picture of me. Oh, yeah. From time to time, though. Let the people know.
Listen, I'm like you.
You're like, yeah, human.
I'm not beautiful every day.
Most days.
Just 99% of the time.
Most days, yes.
Most days.
Is that a prince hat?
No.
Oh, okay.
I don't mean Prince the Singer.
I mean Prince the Tennis Rack.
Yes.
No, it's not Prince.
But it looks just-
The P does look like that, yeah.
It's a company called Palace.
Oh, okay.
All right.
Hello, Palace.
Hello.
Hey, guys. How you doing? All right. Hello, Palace. Hello. Hey, guys.
How you doing?
All right, Megan, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today.
We're talking about that burnout article by Anne Helen Peterson from BuzzFeed that a lot
of people are talking about.
It's about the millennials being the burnout generation.
And yeah, we're just going to dig into that, talk about our feelings when it comes to being burnt out.
We're going to have a quick check-in with Robert Evans,
host of Behind the Bastards,
about the story of the Saudi 18-year-old
who fled her family to Thailand.
And Super Producer Ana Hosnia is going to come on
because we wrote an article back at Cracked
about a young woman who had to flee her family
when she visited them in Pakistan,
and Super Producer Anna Hosnia was talking about
how this is a thing that happens a lot,
people having to, you know, escape their home country,
which is crazy.
So we're going to talk about that.
We're going to talk about just the general clusterfuckery in the White House, Mike Pence,
and nonstop being caught in lies.
We're still decompressing from the wild press conferences that happened last night.
So we won't talk about those, the addresses to the nation.
Or maybe they haven't happened yet.
Right.
Or maybe they haven't happened yet. I was like, where are we? And yeah, we'll talk about those, the addresses to the nation. Or maybe they haven't happened yet. Right, or maybe they haven't happened yet.
I was like, where are we?
And yeah, we'll talk about the wall.
We'll talk about Kevin Spacey, all of that and more.
But first, Megan, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Well, you know what?
I just got engaged.
Congratulations.
Congratulations.
I was going to say.
Thank you.
I was blinded by the light coming out of your finger.
Thank you.
You know what?
It's beautiful.
We're all a little rude when we get engaged, I think, because he was like, is it big enough?
I go, well, it could always be bigger.
But that's not nice.
But that's not what I meant.
I mean, that's how I feel about sandwiches.
That's right.
Yeah.
But now I'm like, yes, I don't want to be on stage.
And people be like, why is she doing stand-up? She's obviously a sultan. So I'm happy yes I don't want to be on stage and people be like why is she doing stand up
she's obviously a sultan
so I'm happy
it's more modest
I've been looking at
it's not that modest
lots
I know
I was going to be like
as a man I must speak up
for your fiance
I know it's really sad
no and I've put it
next to other people's
rings
graves
and they're like
what the fuck
so it's a lot of wedding
a lot of wedding dresses right now.
Oh, nice.
I'm going wedding dress shopping.
Traditional?
You do something traditional, something modern?
What are you feeling?
I think it'll be pretty traditional.
I mean, there was a lot of, your listeners are probably not care about this.
For a long time, it was strapless sweet heart cut.
I hate that.
And I hope I never see it ever again.
So I'll be
doing a little spin on
whatever. Like lots of straps.
Lots of straps. All
straps. But no, I'm not going to have
a suit or a cape.
I'll be in a dress.
I mean, it wasn't a dress like
every, and it was like fitted. A lot of
people had a bedazzled belt.
But it is, I mean, you're married. I am. So you've gone had a bedazzled belt. But it is...
I mean, you're married.
I am.
So you've gone through the process.
I have.
They lie to you.
Some of these people are liars.
What do you mean?
Some of these women are liars.
Like that they're happy for you?
No, they're not lying to you.
They just tell you things.
They tell you it looks great when it doesn't.
I've started...
Oh, okay.
Well, no, actually, I want a show where I tell people it doesn't look good.
Because I've been at bridal appointments now and people are trying on dresses.
And I'm like, please don't get that dress.
Like, I don't know them.
I don't know who these friends are.
Excuse me, ma'am.
I'm looking at their friends, what they're wearing.
I'm like, why are you listening to this person?
That would be a show called That Ain't It.
Say no to that dress.
When you come out of the door, you go, uh-uh, honey, that ain't it.
No, and I'm here to help.
I mean, just lost souls.
That ain't it. No, and I'm here to help.
I mean, just lost souls.
My wife, when my first job out of school was working at ABC News,
and they had that show, What Would You Do?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I think it's still on.
Yeah, it's still on sporadically.
But they cast my wife to do one of the hidden camera things
where she went wedding dress shopping and just put on wild, ugly dresses
and then would see if her friends were honest.
Oh, it was even her friends.
Yeah, it was her friends.
Not even strangers.
Oh, if your friends are not honest, then.
They were like, well, if that's what you want to do,
because it was a pantsuit.
Because she was saying she loved it.
Yeah, she was like, you guys, I found the dress.
This is what I want to do.
And it was a pantsuit. Yeah, she was like, you guys, I found the dress. This is what I want to do. And it was a pantsuit.
Yeah.
Yeah, they were.
They were being respectful of her wishes.
But in a way that, yeah, if she was being real,
she would have realized they were not fans.
I've only gone dress shopping once,
and the woman was like, it was the day after we got engaged.
I got so drunk the night we got engaged, I puked my bed.
And then went drunk.
The woman was like, do you have a Pinterest board?
I was like, oh no.
I'm not even alive right
now. Right.
I also got very sick the night I
got engaged. Sick
drinking. I think it was
but then I had the flu for like 48
hours. Oh no. I think we also
right after we got engaged, I had a
limo. went and uh drank
champagne out of cups that it was pretty clear we're not clean oh and i was just like yeah but
what's the worst that can happen we're engaged kills it yeah yeah what is that a tadpole
whatever man fuck it i've said alcohol kills it so so oh yeah yeah yeah Truly famous last words. And champagne, no.
Maybe like Everclear could sanitize.
Proper grain alcohol.
A limousine glass?
Yes.
That is...
Ecolab couldn't even...
I mean, there could have been like semen in that.
Oh, for sure.
There for sure was.
And I had the effects.
I got very sick.
And now have the unquenchable thirst.
I made her take me up on the sickness and in health thing.
Yeah.
Before she made the promise.
She was like, I'm rethinking this.
Yes.
What is something you think is underrated?
I think the Indianapolis Colts.
Oh, that O-line though.
But you know what?
I don't want them to be rated because the best thing you can do for any team, and I'm
not even saying this as my own team, is ignore them.
That really lights a fire under them.
Yeah, that nobody believed in us.
So when you start talking about them, that's bad.
Right.
Because you want them on their worst behavior.
So I actually think they're rated correctly.
Okay.
Okay.
But you know what I mean.
Their O-line is amazing, though, and Andrew Luck is...
And their defense!
Yeah, their defense was very underrated.
And the first round of the playoffs.
Shout out to the Indianapolis Colts.
God, I've really made this segment a lot about me.
Well, that's the whole point of this session.
Okay, you're right.
What is something you think is overrated?
Birdbox.
Listen, I haven't seen it.
I'm not going to see it.
I haven't seen it either.
Not going to see it.
I don't like the way it's being marketed to me.
Okay.
I don't think Daquan wanted to make memes
about it. I don't think the internet
or like Netflix, you've got some dirty
money in some dirty places and you
are forcing it down our throats
and that's making me boycott
it. Oh, so you think they put Daquan
on to make those memes? Yes! Oh, I think all
of them. Bird Box Challenge, you think that
just like, no. This shit is
fabricated. They made it up.
I would have found this movie on my own
and now I am actively avoiding
it because I think
they tricked us into something. Remember when
everybody was like
putting their pictures up to see what, well,
twinning is happening now, but then to
see what renaissance painting they were
and then people were like, this is actually, so they
can scan our face so they can find where we are at all times.
Right.
Bird Box, you're up to something.
Right.
Oh, wow.
For sure.
I don't like it.
Yeah.
I haven't seen it.
I'll probably watch it
just because I've heard about it.
Yes.
But what is funny,
like when I was in Japan,
they were marketing it
and like I was in this part of Tokyo
where there was like this huge screen
playing like a trailer for it
and it starts off with like her screaming and like a child crying.
And like if you're just out and about.
You're going to like twist your neck and be like, what the fuck is this?
Yeah.
And it worked because you thought some shit was going down.
And then you watch and it was like Bird Box.
And I was like, wow, they really, they know how to prey on people's fears.
But that's like songs that have sirens in them.
Right.
Because you'll hear it and be like, what? If you're driving. Yeah. That's like songs that have sirens in them. Right. Because you'll hear it and be like, what?
If you're driving, that's dangerous.
Like, I don't, when I'm in a large place outside,
like Tokyo with thousands of people around me,
I don't want to hear Sandra Bullock screeching.
Yeah.
Because you don't know it's Sandra Bullock.
No.
And it could be.
If you go, hey guys, this is Sandy.
Right.
I go, okay, I'm not afraid take a breath but i think
it's a woman yeah have you ever i've heard of i there was a mother in a train station in milan i
was i was like stopping there on the way and she was your diamond ring i was i was going to mine
for conflict-free diamonds um wait where where do you go wedding dress shopping?
Oh, obviously.
I mean, Milan has become so gauche.
I think I was 18 and was like trashy and trying to like steal weed across the borders.
I was not.
This was not on like a, it was very like broke down palace trip.
But there was a woman screaming her son's name like bloody murder
and that like
makes me never want to go
to Milan ever again
like I'm scarred by
I don't know if she found her son
like she lost him
in a crowded train station
it was
I mean that is like a terrifying
so yeah
to just be playing that
as like
it's weird
because everyone
I saw everybody's head turn when that
happened because everyone was like you know it was like mall music and then like oh no like you
just hear that shit and i was like what the fuck maybe i was like hey bird box maybe in the 70s i
mean i know japan doesn't have a mass shooting issue like we do here but it's like we're living
in a time where like being out in public is sometimes very frightening for people i get
scared going to the movies i was in mary poppins like i hope i don't go out like this you were in
mary poppins the movie no no no no i was just in the theater i was just sitting there actually the
man next to me 30 seconds into the movie turns to his girlfriend and goes it's a musical
and then and then was Stayed in the movie,
stayed in the theater,
clutching his jacket.
At one point,
hands on his head.
Oh my God, really?
And I'm like,
sir, how did you not know?
It's Mary fucking Poppins.
What do you think?
And even if it,
even if you didn't know it was a musical,
like what,
Lin-Manuel is in it.
Right.
You think we're picking him
for his acting?
Right.
Although that was false advertising
because I thought,
I assumed that it was like Moana.
Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.
Yeah, yeah.
Like he was going to be,
you know,
having the rhymes
and instead it was not written by him at all, right?
He had like a little rap breakout
in one of the songs.
Okay.
I think he did.
Yeah, he had a rap segment.
I just like the idea of this dude being so mad at his spouse or partner or whatever,
being like, oh, it's a musical.
And it's like, you know that woman.
Who hates me?
Damn it, Karen.
That woman has sat through every fucking adventure.
Right, right.
And has probably done it with a smile and been like, oh, yeah, I liked when they disappeared.
I love when they noticed that.
Yeah, she's probably being supportive.
And it's like, this is the one thing she wanted to see because she watched it with her grandmother
who's now passed.
Right, right.
And now you're like.
And you're going to shit on it?
I'm going to pull out my hair transplants over this.
That's terrible.
Take a spoonful of sugar.
He's like, you owe me sex after this.
Yeah.
I got some real toxic masculinity.
Yeah.
What is a myth?
What's something people think is true you know to be false?
Something that I know to be...
I think bread is fine for you.
Okay.
I think you can eat bread.
Yeah, bread is wonderful.
I don't know when bread became the enemy.
I love bread.
I eat bread all the time.
Yeah.
How long could you go without bread?
Is there a more meaningful starch to you?
Because some people are like, I could not eat bread forever.
Just I have to have rice or like I have to have potatoes.
I honestly think of them as the same.
Like that part of the pyramid is all lovely to me.
I could probably go without pasta for a little bit.
A little bit.
A little bit.
I could not have a noodle for like 10 days.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Is that a long time?
No.
That sounds like you roll heavy with the noodles.
Yeah, I love a noodle.
I love a rice.
I love bread.
I mean, it's just hard to just do no carbs.
I think that's the myth.
It's like, stop.
I mean, I'm sure there is.
Yeah, look.
I mean, there's science to back up certain things.
But at the end of the day, look, if you're happy, you know, that's all that matters.
Yeah.
And some people are like, well, you know, I don't have braai when I go out to restaurants.
And I'm like, I do.
Yeah.
I ask for more.
It's free right there.
I get more.
I always ask for more chips.
I'm like, keep the chips coming.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Free starts is a wave.
Everything in moderation, you guys.
Including smoking, guys.
Like, let's get over it.
Smoking is fine for you.
Smoking is fine. Tobacco. Just don't shoot up the meth. Including smoking guys. Let's get over it. Smoking is fine for you. Smoking is fine.
Just don't shoot up the meth.
Right. Speaking of
shooting up the meth, that Democratic
donor. Oh God.
The second black man to die
in his apartment in the last two years.
So listen, I watched
the LA news story about it
last night. His lawyer was on.
Now his lawyer is saying
that he
first of all they kept saying a house and then they showed it
and I was like this is an apartment
that doesn't even have central air.
I'm seeing a window unit poking out
and this man's a gentleman. I want more for him.
First of all. I know.
That is definitely not his main residence.
That's where he probably
shoots people up with meth.
His lawyer was saying that he has like opened his doors to people that are like hard on their luck
and part of the like side effects of that is sometimes people od in your house and like i
don't know well they found one of the people the first person who died jamel moore the woman who
is the lawyer for his family like they have like his journal entries.
And he like graphically describes how this dude got him hooked on to meth.
No.
Yeah.
And is he on meth?
No, I don't know.
His fantasy could just be like having these like people get into like a fiend state and just trying to like the power play of giving them the drugs and then having sex with them.
It's it's really dark.
It's really like traffic.
Scary.
It's it's on some like like there are people outside saying like this is on some get out type shit.
Yeah.
Like if you see somebody going in there, warn them about this person.
And a lot of their people, other people have said like, you know, he's kind of known to want to like party and play.
Is he openly gay yes okay because i i saw that there was like a demonstration out there and they were
like yelling at the neighbors like you're complicit and this woman's like what i like live for
stories away from him like i don't know what the fuck is going on in other people's homes
but for people who don't know edward buck is a big
democratic donor who a lot of candidates have had to give his donations back to him because he
had somebody to have a drug overdose in his apartment uh two years ago that person like
miles said had a journal entry that was like this is the dude who got me hooked on drugs he actually
injected them and now very recently another young black black man was found dead of a drug overdose.
Well, this man was older.
Yeah, but they were saying, like, who cares?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But yeah, it's just one of those things, too, where the first person who died,
his death wasn't thoroughly investigated despite a lot of information.
And now there's another.
You think one person dies in your house.
You're like, guys, we got to clean up our act.
Or move.
Sex and drug thing, people like that can't help themselves.
And wealthy white man.
His lawyer looked like a Disney villain, too.
His hair was like, and he had a crazy name.
I just was like, this lawyer's bad.
He's good.
I would hire him, but he bad.
He's so bad.
He's like, I will defend Satan in court. Yeah, absolutely. He would hire him, but he bad. Right. He's so bad. He's like, I will defend Satan in court.
Right.
Yeah, absolutely.
He'd be like, listen, he likes heat.
Right.
And red is his favorite color.
He looks good.
Right.
All right.
Let's talk briefly about this burnout article that people are talking about.
Were you guys familiar with it?
Did you read it?
Yes.
You guys see this?
And I've been seeing lots of millennials reacting to it as well.
Right.
About how we as millennials are, we're in a constant state of being burnt out, essentially.
Yes, because we're always on the clock.
We need to be reachable by mobile phone.
There's also the, like, you always feel like you should be tweeting or doing something on social media to build your brand. brand and that that just leads to this feeling of burnout that I don't necessarily know is specific
to the generation as much as it's just specific to the world now. I know a lot of people who are
older than me who live this life and are also burnt out.
Well, but I think the thing that might be a little more specific to us generationally is
the lack of security in terms of careers and other things, because we were coming out like we're joining the workforce on either side of the financial crisis.
Right. Where we had limited opportunity.
living now that are purely like new things for our generation where our parents are like hey uh i was able to go to college this that in the other way and also provide for a family coming up the
economy was strong and now it's just like a lot of young people having to balance many different
things and not making and making sure that all of the bills are paid it's uh yeah yeah you know
yeah i generationally i agree it's like the middle class is shrinking no matter what age you are.
Right.
And unfortunately, a lot of people who are post-college tend to be middle class because
you are having to pay off debt and you're also trying, like, you know, I'm 32 years
old, about to be 33.
I can take trips.
I can, you know, I can live freely.
Could I buy a house?
Fuck no.
You know, and part of that is I live in Los Angeles.
I could buy a house in like Topeka.
But we're also fleeing sort of the center of the country a little bit too.
So a lot of millennials have choose to live in more expensive places.
So some of it is sort of just environmental.
Some of it is societal.
But yeah, is it the internet?
Probably.
Yeah.
It seems like it's a lot of factors.
People really want to like, you go on vacation.
Those are the times you're like really, or you're just over the holidays.
But like everybody is on their phones more.
Right.
It's like more Instagram stories about your nieces.
Right.
Look at these palm trees where I'm laying out. Like you almost need to have rules if it's something that stresses you out to be like,
you got to unplug at some point.
Yeah.
That was the thing that really resonated with me.
She wrote everything good is bad and bad is good.
Like feeling like you're fucking up when you're supposed to be relaxing because you're not
working and then only feeling okay about yourself when you're
working your ass off it's like because you're like oh i'm justifying my existence right exactly
i was um like deathly ill i mean not deathly that's an over-exaggeration but you you can hear
from my voice i probably over-exaggerate in times of like when i want pity but i was really really
sick couldn't get out of bed for two days and i was like, I feel like such a piece of shit.
And it's like, I can't do anything.
Yeah, right.
I'm gross.
What are the rules in which it's okay to be incapacitated?
Yeah.
And so you sort of almost have to like embrace being sick.
Like, oh, I'm going to watch seven episodes of 90 Day Fiance.
And that's fine because I can't go anywhere.
Those who disobey the queen will die.
Oh, my God.
Larissa.
Larissa. Did you see the finale? So I've seen the finale. I just disobey the queen will die, you know? Oh my God, Larissa. Larissa.
Did you see the finale? So I've seen the finale.
I just haven't seen the tell-all yet.
Ooh, it gets spicy.
I can't wait.
I mean, she needs a spinoff.
She needs her own show.
She is TV gold.
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Don't worry.
That's why I'm about to spinoff.
And Colt, his body is the craziest.
I've never seen a man
shaped like that.
Colt?
Colty?
Yeah.
Colty.
Colty is...
He's unique.
In a good way or a bad way?
In a bad way,
but it's...
You know when you see
a pear-shaped man
and you're taken aback?
Yes.
I think that's why
Washington was able to be
our first president.
If we had been living
in an era with technology
where we could see photos,
you'd be like,
I don't know if a man
with wide set hips
like that can be.
Wait, Washington
has wide set hips?
Washington was pear shaped.
He had a very feminine body.
Oh, look at that.
He had that junk in the trunk?
Yeah.
The other place
where the argument
about it being
a generational thing
came into focus
is in the discussion
of 90 Day Fiance,
which actually takes up most of the article
no it's uh just the other generation and media's uh version of millennials being lazy and unreliable
or late for things or unable to accomplish basic tasks and it's like we're like coming into a
shitty economy the workplace is like a more hostile place than it's ever been.
And technology has made our lives more difficult than they've been in your experience.
Yeah, the errand paralysis thing was really kind of what struck me, too, was sort of like the idea that like, yeah, they were talking about there was that piece that came out where a bunch of money was like, I don't know if I can vote in the midterms.
Like, I don't know if I can handle it. Andterms like i don't know if i can handle it and people were like oh my god can
you believe this whereas they're also looking at how increasingly like millennials like we've found
ways to do things more efficiently right but things that require like mailing shit in and
those other things just like we just freeze up like they were talking about one person had like
hundreds of dollars that didn't of clothing that didn't fit because they couldn't just get their shit together enough to do it.
Because these are tasks that require a lot of energy but low payoff.
I'm wearing a bra right now that does not fit because I was like, I don't know how to send it back.
So I'm like, I wear it.
I own it.
I wear it every day.
It does not fit.
It isn't comfortable.
But I'm like, you know what?
It was sent to my house.
It's mine.
Venmo Megan some money so she can get new bras.
I need a new
and a new ring. I do think
that if there had been the internet
30 years ago
there would have been articles about like baby
boomers. Oh yeah.
I think it's just we're so
insulated in our
we just analyze things so much
more and I think a lot of it to a
fault. And by the way there were articles about how baby boomers were a piece of shit.
Yeah, and there are now.
It was just different arguments.
Yeah, because they were dumb hippies.
It turns out they were right.
Look at these fucking hippies.
It turns out those articles were right.
Sorry, baby boomers.
There's just this job posting in an article about this article that I wanted to read that
I think gets at something, sort of the mindset that caused the problem we're describing.
This is meta.
Yeah.
So there's someone posted this job posting, a 28-year-old entrepreneur is detailing the
requirements to be his part-time assistant.
He says, if you want to clock in and clock out of your job, this isn't for you.
And reminds people that high performers work until their tasks are done, not just until
the clock runs out.
I don't know. Yeah. Well, you know, I until the clock runs out. I don't know.
Yeah. Well, you know, I understand that to a point and I don't, right? Because like,
I see people, younger people too, have just terrible work ethic in general. And I think maybe that's what they're getting at. But the idea that it's like, you are not allowed to separate
your personal time from your work time is an absurd thing to sort of ask of someone and
just to be someone's assistant
28 year old entrepreneur.
But I also see people who are like at other jobs I've worked at where young people are
like wildly like just like trying to run the clock out.
Yeah.
And then be like, all right, got to go.
Don't call me.
Don't can't do anything.
But maybe they're just taking care of themselves.
I have not seen that as much.
This 28 year old is just a dickhead.
Right.
You know, like I've seen, you know, we live in LA.
We've met assistants of very, very famous people.
And some of them I would say are really, really happy.
And they're like, they're, listen, is it 24 hours?
Yeah.
But are they going to text me at 2 a.m. and be like, I want a milk bar crack pie?
No.
They're like respectful, normal human beings that understand boundaries.
This sounds like he wants to do it for the sake of like,
I work hard.
You were,
and this is a work hard,
play hard.
Yeah.
Yeah. Fuck off.
Or just kind of like a,
I'm going to fucking just boss you the fuck around.
And that's all I need.
I want to be able to yell at somebody.
And what is his business?
He probably makes like silly swim trunks.
Right.
Yeah.
And check out the article,
the burnout article.
If,
if any of this resonates with you.
I will say the first person they interview is a millennial talking about how he can't vote.
And he was the least relatable of all the complaints.
So don't get too slow down.
The person who let the clothes rot in their closet, I was like, bro, I'm so bad at returning shit.
I'll just be like, I'll make it work.
My dog will eat fucking mouse food. By the way, it's worth going through this whole article
and thinking about which of these things are good for corporations
and which of them are bad.
Every single one is good for corporations.
They get more out of us.
Yeah, they get more like we keep the shit
because we don't want to return it.
And also we're like the perfect worker bees.
It's all just America buying more and more into the, you know,
corporatocracy.
We've got to get a work-life balance.
We've got to look at these Denmarks and, you know,
these Nordic countries that, listen,
do they have the highest rate of alcoholism?
Sure.
Do they have the most vacation days?
Yes.
You know, like, come on.
Well, they'll say that's why another reason why democratic socialism
is becoming more popular amongst millennials is because all this all these pressures of having to
like provide your own health care and like going bankrupt has got people being like hold the fuck
up man this is stressing me the fuck out why why are we the only fucking country where i have to
worry about this shit right and so i think that's like you know i think as part of the self-care is
realizing the things that we actually shouldn't be responsible for and what, you know, the corporations or employers and government needs to actually step in.
Well, and I think women, you know, women talk a lot about there was a British article that came out about safety work.
And so women are having to do even added number of like, I have to go this way so I don't get fucking killed.
even added number of like,
I have to go this way so I don't get fucking killed.
There's all these extra things.
We're just like,
Oh,
I'm going to try and survive.
Truly,
truly.
Like I can't live certain places,
walk certain streets. You're talking about that in like New York,
right?
Like the commute,
they called it like the woman's commuter tax about how women have to be more,
more considerate or not considerate,
but have to consider the risks of the modes of transportation they take,
or the way they get to somewhere.
I would pick apartments in New York where I was like, listen, this place is more expensive,
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What's up, guys?
Hey.
Hi. How's it going?
So I wanted to talk to you guys
about the Saudi teenager, Rahaf Alkanan,
who basically ran away from her family,
barricaded herself in a Bangkok airport hotel room
to prevent officials from sending her back to her family.
And Robert, I wanted to get you on specifically because we kind of covered a similar-ish story
of a young woman having to run away from her family in Pakistan, basically, and using a hotel as sort of an underground railroad a while back
yeah yeah we had we had that woman talk to us about her family essentially like trying to force
her into marriage and needing to escape through this hotel and they kind of this Pakistani hotel
like already had like situate like they had plans in place for this sort of thing because it happened
often enough and we did another article a couple
of years earlier
uh
With a woman who lives in or lived in denmark, uh, and so grew up in you know
a pretty pretty western nation, but whose family was very fundamentalist and who
Was afraid of essentially being murdered for the fact that she wasn't
religious and that she was dating guys and you know doing all these things that her family had forbidden her from doing.
And her fear was that she would go back home to Pakistan on vacation at some point and
essentially never come back, which happens to a number of women who are in that sort
of situation.
So we've dealt with, or we dealt with back at Cracked, a couple of different women coming
forward with stories of this sort of thing.
Yeah.
And Anna, you were saying that you're familiar with.
Yeah, it happens all the time where, you know, like the Dubai, the king of Dubai's daughter,
Sheikh Latifa bin Mohammed al-Muhtum tried to escape because she was basically being held in a hospital,
just drugged because she was considered too wild by her father.
And, you know, there was another story of a woman.
This was last year.
She was trying to get to Australia from Kuwait
and she was held up in the Philippines airport
and basically sent back to Saudi Arabia
and has not been heard from since.
Jesus Christ.
So those are the stories of when this doesn't work out well
or doesn't work out for the person trying to escape.
It sounds like Rahaf did all of the things
she would need to do to ensure
that that couldn't happen to her.
Like, she learned, her English was good enough
that she was able to get across the details
of her situation in, like, the videos,
and she was smart enough to, like,
she had a really, I think the smartest thing she did
was record herself in that barricaded hotel room
because the visuals of that were just so, like, of course going to to take off and like once you get I think she got
something like 45,000 twitter followers in a couple of hours which is like if you're a young
woman in her situation that's the only thing that's going to protect you is creating uh enough
of a media spectacle but they can't just send you home right does this I, it does it ever happen to sons? I mean, it must, but it tends to happen more and more to women and daughters.
who were in the closet and, you know,
having to hide that from their family and had often had to consider, you know,
running away from their home country because, yeah,
again, it's a situation where you're fighting for your life.
It's not, you know, I want to be able to go to the mall.
It's like, Jesus, these people will kill me.
Right, for being who you
are yeah but they have the men in these situations have a lot more options i met a young saudi
arabian male couple when i was in the airport in amman jordan uh who had been living in san francisco
for most of the time uh and who something was clearly going on but came back to Saudi Arabia every couple of
years to go see their families and it seemed like the situation was you know their families had
enough money that they could pretty much do what they wanted and it was better for everyone if they
just did their thing you know outside of Saudi Arabia and came back every couple of years to
keep up appearances like and I don't think someone like Rahaf would would have that opportunity even though she comes from that prominent
and wealthy of a family.
No, I feel like the men get to go on,
they basically get to go on vacation
and then if a woman tries it,
it's like, no, you're a woman.
You need to understand your place.
You can't just be running around with anyone.
Your place is in your home with your family
until you're basically arranged
to be married to someone.
Right.
Yeah.
So now, Thailand, are they keeping her at the embassy or is she going to be what what's what's her fate so far i mean she's been
handed over to the care of the united nations and she's somewhere in bangkok with them right now uh
and i think from what i've read it could take five to seven days to get a decision it sounds like
they're going to basically put her plea of asylum status over to the Australians in sort of a formal way
and it sounds like from what Australia said if for no reason other than the prominence of this
story they're probably going to grant her asylum status so that would be my guess is that she winds
up living living down under mate oh wow so for wow. So for her, a happy ending,
an ending where she survives,
but for many, if you don't go viral,
you're sent back.
Yeah.
I mean, one of the girls I was talking about last year
who got caught up, Dina Ali,
she didn't have a chance,
and she was trying to go viral.
There was a hashtag, save Dina Ali,
and yeah, she couldn't do it,
and she got sent back, and she hasn't been heard from since.
She had videos posted where she didn't show her face because she didn't want anyone, you know, to like actually report her if they saw her.
Right.
Right.
But if she if this woman gets sent back, there is a chance she will be killed.
Yeah.
For her behavior.
Yeah.
So.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, thanks for joining us, Robert.
And obviously it's a horrible story,
but I think one that a lot of people aren't aware
is happening in the world,
like in the modern world.
And yeah, thanks for joining us, Anna.
I mean, you hope they become activists.
Like the more that can get out,
the more that they can share their story
and be like, no, this is what's happening.
I know where this girl lives, this girl lives, this girl lives.
Because if there's no survivors of it, then there's no one to carry on this horror.
Well, and then if there isn't enough international pressure, because, you know, like.
Yeah, it's on.
I mean, us.
Are we even a part of the UN?
I mean, on. Are we even a part of the UN? I mean, on paper.
Right.
Well, that brings us back to our totally woke government here in these United States.
So there's just a total clusterfuck over the government shutdown.
Yeah.
Basically, there was a deal the Republicans and Trump was willing to take. And then Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter, who apparently run our government, made fun of Trump and he decided not to take it and shut down the government.
So there's just all sorts of, you know, it's more of this administration just living in a separate reality.
Yeah.
Well, this is like the thing where they clearly thought, okay, we'll shut the government down.
We'll have the Democrats by the balls.
They're going to collapse and then we'll get our racist monument erected.
Right.
And what's just sad is like the logic around it is so transparently flawed about just
manufacturing a crisis that there is this crisis at the southern border.
And everyone, everyone, ask anyone.
That's like their vibe.
Ask everyone.
They say we need the wall.
Everyone agrees.
It's 95%.
It's more effective than a condom.
All the last presidents?
All the living presidents.
Trump was like, they told me we need this wall.
And then cut to all the spokespeople for these presidents be like
fuck out of here we've no one ever said this to him yeah we don't even talk to him right
which was funny because on uh monday night uh mike pence did an interview with hallie jackson
from msnbc and she just pressed him in the best way possible over the like oh some presidents
which ones yeah so listen listen this full court press from Hallie Jackson.
Which former presidents told President Trump, as he said, that he should have built a wall?
All their representatives have denied that that was the case.
Well, you you I know the president has said that that was his impression from previous administration, previous presidents.
I know I know I've seen clips of previous presidents talking about the importance of border security, the importance of addressing the issue of illegal immigration.
Everyone stinks at telling the president, though, right?
But look, you know, honestly, the American people.
I didn't know he was allowed to sit with this lady.
Yeah, I know.
I thought that wasn't allowed.
I'm sure mother is just off camera.
She's EPing it?
Yes. She's like, OK, I'm going to be a PA on allowed. I'm sure mother is just off camera. Oh, she's EPing it? Yes.
She's like, okay, I'm going to be a PA on set today so he can sit and talk to you.
She's running sound.
He fucked this up from the get-go, though, because it's always been Mexico's going to pay, Mexico's going to pay.
And it's like, honey, if you're going to say that, you've got to vet that.
And the president has, since the beginning of this time, the Mexican president was like, we are not paying for it.
And under no circumstances.
And so then he's doubled down with this shutdown.
Been like, I wanted the shutdown.
I'll keep the shutdown going.
I'll be proud.
I'll be happy to do it for years.
And it's like, that's so, you've now been incorrect, caused this like financial catastrophe for thousands of people, made a huge issue about something that isn't a pressing issue right now.
Yes.
With all of the other issues going on. And then I wonder, do Anne and Rush, like, are they like happy when he reneges on something because they made fun of him?
Like, do they count that as a win or do they not?
I'm sure.
Just saying, like, with, like, someone on Twitter to be like, yo, I clapped back at this person and then they took it back.
Ah, I feel power.
They trolled the troll into trolling a million government.
Because Anne doesn't want the wall.
She's, like, very against the wall from.
She's just, but her thing was thing was like you campaigned on this.
Yeah. You're not going to deliver it. Oh that's the end of your presidency. Oh and that's hilarious
and true. Right. Either way. Did you not know that. Is no one telling you that. It's weird.
It's one of those things too where it's like you're saying it's causing a lot of problems like
you know you have hundreds of thousands of people who's getting paid who aren't getting paid and
then you have people who are at risk of losing their federal assistance for food stamps or if they're in housing programs that are just going to lapse because the government isn't running.
And I think now you're seeing like even Republicans starting to really get tired because they're like, look, you tried you tried to do it with the wall or whatever.
It's not it's not happening, fam.
So let's move on.
And Sarah Sanders went on to what's, what's the boy's name?
Chris Wallace's show on Fox.
And even he was like having to check her on these like really bogus talking points because
even to the right, it's starting to get tired about like, this isn't like you're just saying
this about the wall and you're trying to act like it's about border security.
But let's be real.
This is the wall is only about the wall.
This was like an interesting exchange between chris wallace of fox news
uh and sarah sanders getting into it over you know some really bogus statistics they've been throwing
around roughly nearly 4 000 known or suspected terrorists come into our country illegally and
we know that our most vulnerable point of entry is at our side i know this statistic i didn. I didn't know if you're going to use it, but I studied up on this.
Do you know where those 4,000 people come or where they're captured?
Airports. Not always, but certainly a large number. The State Department says there hasn't
been any terrorists that they found coming across the southern border from Mexico. It's by air,
it's by land, and it's by sea. It's all of the above. But one thing that you're forgetting is
that the most vulnerable point of entry that we have into this country is our southern border.
And we have to protect it.
And the more and more that individuals know that it's going to happen, they're coming and they're being stopped at airports.
They're coming a number of ways.
There are eight examples.
She's been saying 4,000.
So it's eight of the 4,000 were people who were suspected of terrorist activity on a watch list that were stopped at the southern border.
All the other thousands, like Fox News is Chris Wallace, that are coming through the airports.
And you know who's not getting paid now that the government is shut down?
TSA.
Yeah.
So the idea that they are worried about, because everybody's worried about American security. Nobody wants to be killed. Nobody wants to die. I don't mean to, I mean, she's not going to get
voiceover work when this is done.
It's like very,
like when I heard it,
I was like, wait,
is that Chris Wallet?
Like, it's like,
it's a bad,
it's like you got to,
she needs to,
she got like a froggy in there.
Okay.
Now,
there is a chance
to give them the benefit
of the doubt.
There is a chance
that they did not know
TSA was not going
to be getting paid when the government was shut down because there's increasing evidence they didn't know what a government shutdown was.
Yeah.
Like what it would mean.
I guarantee they didn't know.
Well, like quite literally, there's like in a Washington Post article, they're saying this is a quote from the Trump administration, which had not anticipated a long term shutdown, recognized only this week the breadth of the potential impact, several senior administration officials said.
The officials said they were focused now on understanding the scope of the consequences and determining whether there is anything they can do to intervene.
They're only now starting to look at the consequences of shutting government down, like three weeks into a government shutdown?
I bet he thinks, because they did this, it was like the day after Thanksgiving. to look at the consequences of shutting the government down like three weeks into a government shutdown?
I bet he thinks.
Because they did this, it was like the day after Thanksgiving.
I think he was like, listen, everybody's on holiday break.
We'll shut it down.
He doesn't know that the government has to run every day,
that there's not a snow day.
Everyone takes those two weeks off.
Kids aren't in school.
Barron, I haven't seen Barron in a year. So he's off. So I guess we don't need the government takes those two weeks off. Yeah, kids aren't in school. Right. Barron, I haven't seen Barron in a year.
Right. So he's off.
So I guess we don't need the government for like two weeks because it's Christmas time
and everybody celebrates Christmas.
I made Starbucks tell everybody they had to celebrate Christmas.
Right.
So we'll shut it down.
And now it's like, hey, boo, we're back and we need the government again.
Right.
Right.
Well.
We're coming off of a holiday where you're supposed to spend a bunch of money and we're not getting our first paycheck.
And this is also.
Oh, yeah.
This is a tough time financially.
It's the danger, too, of having people who work at this at these high levels who can't advocate for these people who are going to be most affected by this.
Yeah.
Or like I'm sure for Steve Mnuchin, how the fuck is he going to care about people's SNAP grants? Or like, oh, food stamps?
Right.
Oh, those run out?
Yeah.
We almost need to put like one smart person in the administration, just as like a spy.
Not even reporting back to us, but be like, you got to, listen, you got to help them.
Like we, they're fucking with us now.
We need one little, who is the smartest one?
Undercover smart person?
I don't know.
They all leave.
That was supposed to be Ivanka.
Where is she?
She going to jail.
I know.
And this pisses me off, too, because it's like, I want to be talking about Russia.
I don't want to be talking about this wall.
I want to be doing a countdown, like the ball drop, for Russia indictments.
I'm having fun with that.
You're distracting me.
I want to be talking about the substance of what AOC is saying, not her dancing videos
and not this made up wall issue.
This Whoopi story is a mess too.
Oh, God damn it, Whoopi.
I mean, this is sort of, I guess this should be filed under no shit because even in 2016
when Trump was like becoming the nominee, he didn't realize that he had to by law have a
transition team in place to figure out how to prepare to run the federal government and first
he had Chris Christie put some people together and then he like blew that up because he's like
they're stealing my money is what Trump thought these people were doing they were getting paid
because they were getting paid to figure out how to transition but why does he need a transition
team he's just gonna keep all of Obama's people, right?
That's literally what he thought.
He thought they just worked there
and he pulls up and he's like,
I'm the new boss.
And they're like, no, my man.
You have to put a transition team together
to figure out how you are going to change this total,
not the torch being handed over to you as president.
He thought he just, he inherits Obama.
I mean, in his defense, I didn't know that either,
but I didn't fucking run for president.
You know, I'm at home brushing my hair.
Right.
So is he.
How many brushes do you do?
Actually, I really don't brush my hair.
I said that.
I brushed it to come here because it was looking a mess.
But this is the first time I've had makeup on in a while.
And I ran a brush through
my hair for you guys so that was my transition team so much um you do con air yes or uh frederick
fakai isn't that another fancy hairbrush con air no frederick there's like a fakai one i don't know
yeah yeah there's a bald person i like to fantasize about using hair products it's just
wild that there's a brush and an iconic movie with the same name.
I hadn't even thought.
Wait, what is it?
Con Air?
Con Air.
And then Con Air.
And Con Air.
I never even looked at it and was like, Nicolas Cage, you know?
I guess I was just like, I got to blow.
Oh, shit.
I wonder if they were just like, that idea was incepted into their head.
Michael Bay was just like doing
his way the other way
cons on an airplane
wait a second Johnny 23
you know air that's one way the terrorists get in
boom sea land air
and segway scooter
and zip lining
zip lining and zip cars
so the other thing that they don't seem to be able to get
their shit together about is the withdrawal from Syria.
Trump announced on December 19th, our boys, our young women, our men, they're all coming back and they're coming back now.
We won.
And then on January 7th, he said we will be leaving at a proper pace while at the same time continuing to fight ISIS and doing all else that is prudent and necessary.
And then when people were like, that wasn't what you said before. while at the same time continuing to fight ISIS and doing all else that is prudent and necessary.
And then when people were like, that wasn't what you said before.
Why are we fighting if we won?
Right. He said, the failing New York Times has knowingly written a very inaccurate story on my intentions in Syria,
no different from my original statements.
Okay. So this is one kind of important or, I guess detail is you know his main national security dude now
is john bolton and trump consistently calls him mike like michael bolton he thinks i think again
it's like a case of inception where he constantly is looking at a picture of Michael Bolton wishing he had his hair,
and he can't get John Bolton's name right.
Well, they say in the article that on more than one occasion
in front of aides refers to him as Mike Bolton.
I mean, Michael Bolton can't be happy about this.
No, no.
You know, you don't play a saxophone with that type of love
and vote for this man.
Does he play saxophone? I don't know what he does. What's he sing?
I'm thinking Kenny G.
See, I confused Kenny G and Michael
Bolton, and I didn't know about a transition
team. Maybe I should be president.
Yeah, circular breathing, Kenny
G can do. He played like the longest note ever, I think.
Did they ever duet, Michael Bolton and Kenny
G, with their long curly locks?
I'm sure some record A&R guy was like, you guys should really, I'm telling you, man,
this is a fucking dunkaroo.
You guys do a fucking Christmas album, man.
It's a slam.
But Bolton's got short hair now, right?
Yeah, he's got short hair.
Oh, yeah, and he's aged well.
He looks amazing.
I worked with him on a video last year.
We had him play a barista at Alfred Coffee, and he sang people's orders out.
And he was just a super nice guy was he yeah just like really down for like the stupidest bit where he's like do like when a man loves a latte yeah and he like did it and i was like i died
inside yeah no i know he totally does he totally does he's like pissed about this john bolton
situation yeah yeah so anyway that's serious thing also it's just a mess, too, in the sense that every fuck up just we go one rung lower on the fucking the ladder of power in terms of people being able to trust that our foreign policy is coherent or even consistent or reliable in any way.
Because if you have one on one side, hey, we're pulling the fuck out of Syria.
And then the next one like, oh, I never said that. Right. Oh, we're going to do that the right way. And also pulling out of Syria
as quickly as he was talking about doing it
would just leave an entire people to be slaughtered.
The Kurds who've been helping us fight ISIS all along
would just be left to be murdered.
This is one of those things that's like not talked about as,
I mean, I know we talk about Syria,
but it's not talked about as much as the wall
and Russia and things like that.
It's like this will have, we will be able to point back at this moment in decades and go, this is why this happened.
This is going to have negative, catastrophic ramifications as much of this presidency will have for decades to come because he's fucked us up on so many levels.
Yeah. I mean, Syria is like if if you were gambling on where the third world war
was going to come from,
Syria has all the ingredients.
Does Vegas have that?
They do not.
We are opening a betting market.
Pull up to Caesars.
Hey, y'all taking action on World War III?
Yeah.
How will-
We're trying World War Z.
But yeah, you got Russia, you got Iran, you got everybody there.
North Korea.
North Korea.
They're probably a dark horse.
Yes.
All right.
We're going to take another quick break.
We'll be right back.
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And Super Producer Ana Hosnier was pointing out
that in addition to TSA air travel
is now just less safe because the people who actually do the checks on the planes also air
traffic controllers you know they're all pulling double shifts they're not getting paid so on the
one hand that's really dangerous for people who are traveling by plane but on the other hand I
mean since most of the terrorists are coming in through that way,
maybe some of them get killed.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah.
Holy shit.
You know,
the Republicans have always said
they wanted smaller government
and now they have no government.
Right.
So they really,
I mean,
2019,
check,
check,
y'all.
Boom.
The amazing thing about the wall
is that,
first of all,
not only do most people,
like the majority of Americans
don't want it, but also like border most people, like the majority of Americans don't want it,
but also like border patrol people,
like the head of border patrol is like,
no, dude, that would do nothing.
Like we need cameras.
We need-
He's like, you don't know who we're dealing with.
These guys are funny.
They got tricks.
Right.
He's like a technological wall
would be maybe something to talk about,
not a wall wall.
Like a sea to shining sea wall is what they're saying.
He wants like a great wall of China.
I bet he looks at that every night and he's like, that's what we need?
Hey, wait, do the thing where you go from space.
You can see it from space.
Look at that.
Mike Bolton, you got to look at this.
Mike Bolton, get in here.
All right.
Let's talk about another one of our faves, another popular sex crim out here doing his thing besides the president,
Mr. Kevin Spacey. So he showed up in court on Monday to plead not guilty,
immediately got pulled over for speeding after his trial. Just, you know, he can do no right.
No ticket.
No ticket. Yeah, of course.
He did a monologue.
Yeah, he did. no right. No ticket. No ticket. Yeah, of course not. He did a monologue. Yeah.
He did another video.
I bet you're wondering what I'm doing here, speeding in this here car.
No trial.
Spacey himself didn't speak at the arraignment, which is probably for the best since he would have just tied a web of lies together using names pulled from items scattered around the
courthouse.
But he, yeah, I don't know what is happening in his head,
but also around him.
He is another white man who has been gaslit
by his own fucking privilege.
He really thinks this is how he's going to come back.
Right.
All this shit, he has no remorse.
Yeah.
That wild video on Christmas Eve.
That's the thing.
So people are pointing out that video was well lit
like it wasn't like he just set up oh you're like there was a production i don't know i i don't like
the way it was lit i think it sounded terrible okay sorry well he was loved you know like there
was a boom it was produced it was not him doing a selfie video but it was like no self-respecting
even like the camera moves
were a little whack,
a little amateur to me.
But you know,
I'm not here to critique
Kevin Spacey's defense videos.
But yeah,
definitely people came through
to be like,
yeah, okay,
we'll put the light here
and then you can
just weird us all out.
We're going to leave.
Just text us when you're done.
And I'll come back
and I'll hit stop.
And then you said you have iMovie on your laptop and then you cut it.
Okay, great.
Well, that's what I would like to believe happened.
But people who are as famous as he is have, you know, we've talked before on the show,
they have basically an entire company's worth of people who rely on them for a paycheck.
Right.
And, you know, those people are all now full-time looking for new jobs
and also trying to come up with strategies
for how the spaceman is going to get back in the game.
You think so?
Yeah.
I think in the world of delusion,
and especially in the industry that he was a part of,
there are people in his phone book that he can point to and go,
they did X,
Y,
Z.
And I saw them at the golden globes the other night.
You know,
like we haven't taken everybody.
So it's like,
I bet space.
He's reading these Louie articles.
Like,
it's like,
why me?
Why,
why do I have to go away when I know there's 15 other?
So it truly,
it speaks to,
we got to get them all out because once they're all out and we put them on an
island and we make that a reality show where they just see who they harass the
best, we're not going to, I think that we still have some of these pieces of shit.
And so that gives them hope.
Right.
Where they're like, well, maybe I'll just start my career somewhere else.
And they're bitter.
Right.
Isn't he getting offers?
Or like there's rumors that he has offers to work elsewhere in the world?
Yeah, Europe and Russia.
What?
Yeah.
I mean.
To do American, but to do Russian films?
Probably.
Probably, yeah. With Steven Seagal.
I mean, also, I don't understand some of these people.
It's like, you have enough money.
You don't need to come back.
Louis, you have enough money.
You don't need to go on tour. Kevin Space like, you have enough money. You don't need to come back. Louie, you have enough money. You don't need to go on tour.
Kevin Spacey, you have enough money.
You don't need to stay away from us.
Just stay in your fucking mansion.
I would love to stay in a mansion
and never have to do anything again.
That'd be incredible.
Right.
That's what he's been doing.
The industry that is most famous for having people
who just can't quit are boxers.
Who like, you know, their ego is so accustomed to the adulation that they come back and their job is getting the shit beat out of them.
So like imagine.
I'm facing brain damage.
Yeah.
And they still come back.
Maybe that's the reality show.
They just box each other.
Oh, that would be.
You know, we do them by weight class.
Harvey, I don't know who goes up against him.
He's a big fella.
Spacey did rock a retired since 2017 hat as he delivered a medium cheese pizza to the
Daily Mail paparazzi camped outside his home.
Wow.
See?
And again, like just the whole flippant attitude from that video to rocking a hat like retired
since 2017.
Yeah.
Like, come on.
It's a goof.
Yeah, to him it's like, oh, yeah, fine.
Has he always been crazy?
Did this make him crazier?
Because he was one that I definitely loved his work.
Was like, oh, if I saw him at a restaurant, you'd be like, hey, he seemed cool.
Yeah.
And now it's like, were you always this insane?
I'm sure.
I mean, with anything, you you know his world is spinning he's on that ride and then it suddenly stops spinning he's gonna keep you
know it's it takes a big adjustment for him he's gonna keep going thinking that everything's the
same everyone's gonna find him continually as charming as they always have because that's just
his reality that's what how he existed
also according to the daily mail those photographers who he delivered pizza to they
snap pictures of spacey spending time in his mansion watching news coverage about himself
and reruns of his movie no so that's a fucking bummer isn't there like a movie like this from
the from the old timey days of like some actor who like yeah
sunset boulevard right silent film actress who is like basically a screenwriter crashes his car
and like has to ask for help at this like old dilapidated mansion and it's like the biggest
star from the silent film days and she basically like i don't know her ego like swallows him up in it and he ends up getting killed
is it a horror movie?
sort of I didn't know that
it's a great movie
I thought it was all like drinking and dancing
that's what I think about Sunset Boulevard
so there's like really funny moments too
but it's like
it's darker the apartment
which is a great
movie also.
Let's talk about pizza, you guys.
Let's leave it in a happy place.
Right.
Math has informed us.
Something that surprised me a little bit.
Yeah.
Well, this was a viral tweet that went around.
Can I see this? From Fermat's library, where basically they're just using math, right,
of how to calculate surface area of a circle.
And what they discovered, which was this information was available to us forever,
but that one large pizza will yield you more pizza, more area of pizza than two smalls combined.
One 18-inch is bigger than two 12-inches.
Yes.
So with one 18-inch pizza, you get 254 square inches of pizza.
With two smalls, you get 226 square inches of pizza.
Okay.
I have to, I don't think people are getting two smalls because they think it's more.
I think people are getting two smalls because they're like, I want pepperoni.
Right.
I want mushrooms.
Right.
But that's what they're saying is like, if that's the case, yo, just split the thing
in half unless there's not like some wild dietary restrictions.
And be like, yo, we're both getting 14 more square inches of pizza.
Right.
Well, and that's a lot.
Yeah.
That's a foot.
You don't got to tell me that.
This has changed everything.
Well, it's just funny.
That was one of those things.
I think that's what's so funny to me is this tweet is purely just doing math.
Like these are things we learned like in just school right yeah wasn't this a problem on one
of our tests yeah like if how much pizza will you get if you order i swear i did this in high school
yeah yeah multiplying pi by the square of its radius great uh geometry question just went viral
right and then just be like oh oh, that's right, dude.
You get more pie, dude.
And the pun is intended when you get the large.
A large just looks cooler, too.
A small pizza, you're like, did I read a book and I got this as a present?
Like, it's just not enough.
Wait, were you talking about like the book fair?
Yeah, Book It or whatever?
Here's a free pan pizza from Pizza Hut.
Yeah, which delicious, love it.
But then once you see a large one, you're like, get out of here.
I want this big daddy.
Also, yeah, back when they had March Madness promos for Pizza Hut.
I thought it was canceled.
No, no, no.
Yeah, back when they had March Madness.
Remember that?
They used to have a themed basketball every year that Pizza Hut would make for the Final Four tournament.
And I remember I would always have to beg my parents.
Like, yo, we got to order the large, though, or else we don't get the basketball.
You would get a basketball if you ordered a large?
Yes.
That is a deal.
Yeah.
It was a terrible like rubber ball.
But like if you're playing outdoor and you're just like a kid just shooting around in the street,
perfect ball.
All right.
They should bring that back.
They should.
Megan,
it's been such a pleasure having you.
Where can people find you?
On my Twitter, Megyn Gailey.
Better Megyn Gailey is my Instagram.
I have a website.
I don't update it.
Don't go to it.
But there are cute photos.
And then, yeah, I'm going on the road again at some point.
We will be doing live Love It or Leave It shows in the next few months
and live Hysteria shows all throughout the country.
I saw the Pod Save Boys on Sunday at the HBO party.
Oh, wow.
I didn't say hi to them because I'm a second-rate podcaster.
I just rented a tux from the Black Tux.
Yeah, but they're just podcasters too.
I know, I know.
I looked, you know, I was at the awards though, fam.
You were?
Yeah, but they weren't.
Was dinner good? Dinner was all right. There was a sweet potato soup that was cold, awards though, fam. You were? Yeah, but they weren't. Was dinner good?
Dinner was all right.
There was a sweet potato soup that was cold, but that's fine.
It was meant to be served cold.
It was supposed to be cold.
And it was all right.
And then the entree was sea bass.
Chilean sea bass.
Ooh, I love sea bass.
On black rice.
Ooh, that sounds good.
With some vegetables.
Yeah, yeah.
Did you get drunk?
Not too much.
I was wildly jet lagged, and I still kind of am because I just got back from Japan.
Okay, gotcha.
Wow.
Japan to the Golden Globes.
Just jet setting, you know?
What a man.
Life of a podcaster.
Seriously.
Living the life Kevin Spacey wish he has.
Is there a tweet that you've been enjoying?
Just the overall Twitter of Lori Kilmartin.
She's one of my favorite follows on Twitter.
She's so funny. It's one of my favorite follows on Twitter. She's so funny.
It's 95%
funny, 5% mean.
That's a good breakdown.
Miles, where can people find you?
You can find me and follow me on Twitter
and Instagram at miles
of gray.
A tweet I like is from Kyle Ayers.
It says, see his music festival
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Ah, yeah.
Couple tweets I've been enjoying.
Jamie Loftus
from the Bechdel cast
tweeted a little preview
of her analysis of
what women want from the year
2000. She said
the uncanny value of everyone
acting like Mel Gibson is hot
is worse than the Polar Express.
I can't look at him wire his
teeth so far into his mouth.
Get the teeth closer to the lips, you dumb
asshole. I had never noticed that, but that is for sure true. I haven't noticed that mouth. Get the teeth closer to the lips, you dumb asshole. I had
never noticed that, but that is for sure true.
I haven't noticed that either. His deep set teeth?
Deep set teeth. Because he's wearing a skin mask.
Garth Reynolds from the Dollop tweeted,
do more mushrooms, use less plastic.
In 2019, they also had
a really good episode about George H.W.
Bush that everybody should check out.
And then Karne Asada tweeted
the picture of Lady Gaga
in her giant gown with the long-ass runner,
and she said,
me when I bring my comforter out to the couch.
Which is the closest I get to feeling like that.
You can follow me over there on Twitter at jack underscore o'brien.
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Yes, and you are.
Are you going to sing along?
Uh-huh.
You love to sing.
Now look.
Oh, yo, you should have seen me in Japan, though, at the karaoke places.
They already have Shallow, the song from fucking Star is Born, programmed in the thing.
And I was like pulling up every time.
I'm like, I got to sing this.
Right.
Did you kill it?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
And you did Lady Gaga's parts as well.
Oh, well, it's meant to be as a duet, and I sang it with a woman.
And then at one part, I had to just get the...
Because she wasn't bringing it.
You know what I mean?
She was up there.
She was up there, and I had to be like, I'm sorry, I'm about to...
You took the mic away from her?
I have my own mic.
I just turned it up louder.
Because I'm a petty queen.
We are going to ride out on saba
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