The Daily Zeitgeist - Prestige Casting! 2023's Most Underrated/Overrated TV

Episode Date: January 2, 2024

In this special episode, Jack is joined by Supers Producers Anna, Becca, Victor and writer JM to discuss their favorite TV shows from 2023!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties
Starting point is 00:00:12 you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:00:30 I'm Jess Costavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:00:56 or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeart on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast presented by capital one founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to this very special year-end holiday prestige casting episode of their daily life guys a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into american shared consciousness and our team is now uh taking a little break so we are uh recording year-end episodes way back in we're recording this one on december 11th
Starting point is 00:02:00 little peek behind the curtain and miles isn't feeling well, but, uh, we've got an amazing roster. Uh, my name's Jack O'Brien and I'm thrilled to be joined by today's special guest co-host super producer, the inventor of prestige casting, the inventor of on a streaming corner. It's on a hose.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Yeah. Hey, hi, hi. So good to see you. Yeah, great to see you too. We're also thrilled to be joined by Super Producer Becca Ramos, Super Producer Victor Wright, and the writer of our show, Mr.
Starting point is 00:02:44 J.M. McNabb! Hello. Got like a spooky thing happening in my voice. Scrooge! And the writer of our show, Scrooge! So, this is the story of streaming. This is the streaming app where we look back at the year in TV shows that I did not partake in. But super producer on a hosier is always on this shit and telling me why I'm a fool for watching.
Starting point is 00:03:28 watching i tend to if i have a free moment i will watch a film instead of a uh streaming show because streaming shows take longer uh a lot of people complain about movies being too long have you seen these fucking streaming shows man since take like fucking 13 dang hours some freaking times anyways uh but there's a lot's a lot of fun stuff TV can do that streaming cannot. And so, Anna, I will turn it over to you. What happened this year in streaming? I would say we had a lot of great shows come out this year. I would say we had a lot of great shows end this year as well.
Starting point is 00:04:03 So, you know're we're in a bit of a a renaissance of the tv era which you know could mean anything that literally means anything it could also mean nothing at the same time isn't it incredible how like you can just say whatever you want anyway um i so i actually want to go through my list of just great shows that ended this year. And then we can maybe talk about what you didn't watch, which is everything. Yeah. Basically everything. Except for, uh, succession.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Have you guys seen succession? Have you heard about this? I want to talk about succession because, you know, everyone said season three or no, excuse me, season four was, it started off so slow. And then we hit episode three. And I just want to say episode three of Succession season four, which was the last season, was a real feat in television making. I got to say it was one long sort of consecutive shot for the most part. Or at least how it was presented in the
Starting point is 00:05:08 edit but it was a devastating episode i'm not going to spoil it if you guys haven't seen it but season season four episode three is i think the pinnacle yeah of television filmmaking hey guys incredible time am i right or 2023 Of television filmmaking. Hey guys. Fuck off. Time? Am I right? Or 2023? Fuck off. for most of time. Incredible television.
Starting point is 00:05:33 And also it ended. That was sad. Oh God. I loved Succession. It was so fun. It was so fun until it fucking wasn't.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Dude. Yeah. It had us by the neck. And what did it say to us? What? Succession? When it had us by the neck? It said fuck off! Okay we get it. Alright. You're a
Starting point is 00:05:56 real Brian Cox we get. Okay. Alright. I just you know I did an amazing spot on impression and nobody said anything! Go ahead say it again no that's all right i got it um let's let's move on i have some impressions of barry's catchphrases uh also yeah so barry ended i will say barry is a completely different show from when it started to when it ended yeah i did watch this one too holy shit man was that the impression
Starting point is 00:06:25 yeah that was my impression like what was that that was that was my impression of me watching it and saying this is bleak oh you said bleak i just said yeah i just think it's fun to say bleak in a high-pitched voice to you know yeah yeah mean, I felt like the first season was relatively grounded as grounded as you can be when, uh, an assassin is trying to make it in Hollywood. And then the show just kept getting weirder and weirder and more esoteric. Like he'd have these dream sequences on the beach and everything.
Starting point is 00:07:01 And then in a weird way, the final episodes did go back to that grounding in a very dark way and i'm like oh i wasn't really on board with a lot of the dream sequences but i kind of wish we would go back because this is making me very very uncomfortable but it is like very prestige television for me yeah yes it's very very uh dark um you know it's interesting i saw more of like what's his name uh what's the name of the guy in barry hater barry phil hater barry uh was like wait a second this this could be miami and then was just like, should we just put on the pedal
Starting point is 00:07:48 no looking back? Yeah. And then, you know, they were like, yeah, sure, whatever you want to do. Had he not won an Emmy yet? Or this could be the Emmy to end all Emmys. I think this was the sort of Emmy
Starting point is 00:08:04 to Oscar dream pipeline in a way. and all Emmys. I think this was the, the sort of Emmy to, uh, like Oscar dream pipeline in a way. Cause he was like, all of a sudden like, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:08:11 no, no, no, no, I'm a serious actor and director. I hope he directs a film film, uh, soon because I feel like there's a lot of heat,
Starting point is 00:08:23 a lot of anticipation around what he would do with a film. Um, I, I just, I recently saw the Mr. Robot guys first film, I think, uh,
Starting point is 00:08:35 which I think I remember there being a lot of anticipation around that one. And, uh, this one might as well not exist. Like Mr. Robot guys. Sorry. Sorry to take it back to film.
Starting point is 00:08:45 That was the last episode we recorded. But yeah, I don't know. I feel like he would direct a really good action movie. Yeah, no, no. I agree with that. I think he would do a great job. I'll give some... Oh, you know what?
Starting point is 00:08:59 Reservation Dogs also ended this year. I want to say the final season of Reservation Dogs was very beautifully done. If you haven't seen it, I really recommend checking it out. It was just so, it was just beautiful. You know, it also sort of departed from its original sort of format, I guess, if you will, which was a little bit more sort of like, look at these sort of kooky characters in this reservation who are trying to make it and survive and and deal with what life has handed them and the experience of the native american in this country uh and then i would say the final season was more introspective than ever before i thought it was just like really well done uh looking at like the different characters and their lives and their backgrounds and how the older sort of elders of the group on the show came to be and i thought they did a really great job of ending that show
Starting point is 00:09:51 even though in my opinion it shouldn't have ended but you know what this industry's like i do i actually watched a lot of tv this year now that i think about it for compared to what i thought heading into this episode uh you've got white lotus that happened here right yeah yes watch that shit count it swish from downtown you watch the other two which also ended this year which ended this year that was good though man that was what a what a season that it ended yeah yeah that was good though man that was what a season sad that it ended yeah that was I would say season three of was it season three or whatever I can't remember
Starting point is 00:10:30 it was a four I forget but that final season of the other two was also a great feat in television filmmaking because once again they were able to sort of do what they wanted while at the end of the show having a hit piece come out about them. So, I mean, honestly, great job.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Great job. All around. You get a hit piece, you put out an incredible season of television. That's how you want to go out. Your season of television was so damn good that they were scared of you. Your season of television was so damn good
Starting point is 00:11:02 there were HR complaints, you know? Like, it's too fucking good, man. Yeah. Making Zaslav scared. Like, the creators are becoming the characters. Television, baby. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Or they were just mean to people. But, um, I don't know. Or maybe the show was so real that they themselves were the other two and thus the characters are manifest manifested from a very deep place of insecurity and why the show was so good and nailed every single aspect of being sort of like a a uh sort of societal and industry reject so anyway your show was so good i i stuck around and watched you guys get interviewed and talk about the show after every episode.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Uh, and so therefore I cannot believe you would be mean to people and love you. Love, love the show. That's why the show was so good. It's because they were just playing themselves. Hmm. But it wasn't,
Starting point is 00:11:56 they were just writing themselves. It wasn't the actor. Yeah. Yeah. It was the, no, but if you look at photos of the creators, you're like,
Starting point is 00:12:02 this is just them. Yeah. You know? Yeah. All right. Um, what are, what are the other ones? look at photos of the creators you're like this is just them yeah you know yeah all right um what are what are the other one like the idol was a big story this year for just being offensive and bad but what here's the thing though like how bad was it really because you know the weekend did donate a bunch of money to gaza so i'm not here being like I don't know maybe the idol was good. I'm not actually here to complain about the idol. What am I mad at? I watched it.
Starting point is 00:12:30 I was definitely like holy shit what is happening on screen? It kept my attention so you know what? Idol? You're back baby. I'm willing to go back. I'm willing to go try it. I was in. I'm not mad at it. Maybe pro. I don't know. Also I just want to give a quick shout out to how to with John Wilson,
Starting point is 00:12:47 which ended. I thought that was a great ending for a show. I watched the first time the penis enlargement episode that obviously didn't come out this year, but, uh, Oh no, that's a different, is that,
Starting point is 00:12:59 is that how to with John Wilson? Yeah. I don't, I don't recall that episode. So it must have just a pop up ad on your browser. Yeah. Maybe we should tone it down a little. It was,
Starting point is 00:13:16 it was the one that was like about furniture, like where it's following people who keep their furniture in wrapped in plastic. Yeah. How to cover your furniture how to with john wilson and then it takes a turn into a guy who's like obsessed with uh penis enlargement and then you're just seeing him laying laying on his bed with uh a weird strap on his penis um no it's that show really takes you places it really takes you places like holy shit how to with john wilson is an incredible work of art it really is and like when he's at the
Starting point is 00:13:52 emmys and he's not even on the list for the uh hbo after party even though his name is literally like on his show incredible stuff like the absolute disrespect for that show. Yeah, that's insane. Good for him. He created incredible television. They couldn't handle
Starting point is 00:14:11 the truth. So, loved it. As a father of children, I gotta give a shout out to Bluey, which continues
Starting point is 00:14:20 to be great. I don't even know if they had new episodes. This is, uh, you know, it's relevant.
Starting point is 00:14:29 I think, I think they just dropped some new. I mean, I've heard wonderful things about Bluey. Bluey fucking rules. It's, you can watch it with your kids and they don't like, like a lot of the shit that they watch,
Starting point is 00:14:40 they, they're just like a little bit worse after you watch it with them. Like, ah, your soul has like been corrupted by whatever you just watched and then bluey it's like paw patrol paw patrol yes very bad they love cops or caillou i'm not we're not we're not a caillou family had to pet sit a dog named Caillou over the holiday. But the family spelt it C-A-Y-O-U with an accent over the U. So interesting choice was made there.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Ana, what are some other shows from this year that you feel like people might have missed? Yeah, some shows that haven't aired in a minute. Not me, because I watch everything. Right. They haven't aired in a minute, so you may have forgotten about them. But like, excuse me, White Lotus, like you said before, Yellow Jackets, Queen Charlotte, if you're a sort of a horny Shondaland fan. Oh, that was the queen from the other.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Bridgerton, yes. Yes, yes. Yeah. She was hot. That was interesting. Some other. Oh, remember Beef? Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Beef got buried hard. Yeah. Beef got buried hard, unfortunately, due to the controversy. The David Cho of it all. Yeah. Which is unfortunate because I did really enjoy that show, but you know. Yeah, I felt very conflicted watching it because I did really enjoy it, but I felt like the cloud of David Cho could not not ruin it for me. They did in a way curse themselves
Starting point is 00:16:28 by casting David Cho, but... What do you know? Hey, you know what? You make your choices. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come back and continue to talk about shows that took the streaming world by storm. We'll be right back.
Starting point is 00:16:51 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary
Starting point is 00:17:34 perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jamee Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is
Starting point is 00:18:10 my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black.
Starting point is 00:19:28 I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network,
Starting point is 00:19:51 iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. And we are thrilled to be joined by our resident suits expert, super producer, Becca Ramos. Yes. Did you watch suits? Remind me,
Starting point is 00:20:11 did you watch suits when it was first on? Yes. Okay. So I, my TV journey is that I think I used to watch a lot of TV when I was younger. And now I kind of share the same opinion as Jack is that if I'm going to have time for something, I'm going to watch a movie. I'm not going to watch a TV because I think I get overwhelmed by there's so much TV now with streaming and like there's a zillion seasons
Starting point is 00:20:36 and things are super long and binging and it's too much. And I just need if I'm going to watch TV, I'm zoning out. I'm watching a syndicated television i'm watching house i'm watching suits i'm watching law and order svu okay you can catch me watching station 19 i if it is syndicated i'm watching it and or i am watching reality tv so when suits came back into popular demand what was it the summer i think on netflix because it dropped on netflix i re-watched that bad boy and i was like this shit is wild i came on to tdz i remember to talk about it it was fun i actually kind of did give up on it a little bit quickly in because i just felt like the tension between mike and um our yeah i was like our Duchess Meghan Markle. The people's queen.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Our people's queen. Um, I felt like it was too much for me. I was like, I just hate that they're fighting. And I stopped watching. Because he was, I think I quit right after she was mad that he wouldn't cheat for her on her LSAT or her whatever log, Sam. That tracks based on the 15 second trailer that I saw over and over every time I turned on Netflix they were like you really
Starting point is 00:21:49 might want to try out suits I think you're gonna like suits yeah but that seemed to be like there's a non-linear thing happening where it's like not only are people like not watching whatever is on tv at
Starting point is 00:22:07 the moment like on cable tv or linear tv people aren't watching things that came out this year like the number one show seemed to be suits every time i looked at the ratings um and yeah i talked before about how that dinosaur show that came out last year that was like a david attenborough uh show it came out on apple tv and it just like didn't exist because it came out on apple tv they're just like no wait what shut the fuck up no nobody like that then netflix did the basically the exact same thing used a david attenborough like production team but gave the voiceover work to morgan freeman it was like a competing project and it like the new yorker wrote a profile on it it was like this massive hit because it was on netflix so it's just i feel like being on netflix
Starting point is 00:23:00 give is giving shows like a whole second win like it's like yeah it's like that oh your show doesn't really exist until it comes out on netflix i feel like it's been like that for a while though yeah i feel like netflix because what they'll do is just like serve it up in that new i think they re-changed their i don't know what to call it their home page um yeah i think they changed the format of their home page recently the way it serves you things so then it's just like yeah you gotta watch suits even though the show super old 2007 you gotta watch suits uh and i don't feel like hulu you get that as much but maybe because i'm watching svu right now i've been getting a lot of ads on hulu specifically it's like you want to check out CSI New York?
Starting point is 00:23:46 Like, you know that really old show, CSI New York? Watch that. It's now on Hulu. Our numbers say you do. So we're going to just... I was like, you're not wrong. Yeah. Goddamn, they are really...
Starting point is 00:24:00 It's hard to find the Nielsen ratings for the most streamed shows of the year. I know I was trying to find something before we got on and even if it was like Rotten Tomatoes or something but it just kept giving me premiere dates like of episodes or shows and I was like no I'm looking for
Starting point is 00:24:18 like what were the top shows this year. Because does Nielsen track like streamers like Netflix and Max? i think they do now yeah it does but they're like keeping it a secret yeah that's weird fucking wild uh yeah i mean there were when i was looking up what tv shows were this year for this episode there were so many shows i'd never heard of and then there were also like shows i'd watched half of that i'd completely forgotten like I honestly forgot I'd watched them
Starting point is 00:24:45 until I saw it today Googling it. That Seth Rogen show that was on Apple, Platonic. Oh, yeah. I have a list of great Apple TV shows that were slept on. Yeah, it was a good show. I just forgot about it
Starting point is 00:25:03 because I never turn on apple tv this whole streaming world like makes no sense uh bluey is at number one as we speak and but it's like hasn't released new episodes and forever it's just people are like i don't know they're at home with their kids it's just like it's not a suits is continuing to be in the top 10. They haven't released episodes in seven years. It just, it's not a event based thing anymore, which seems like it sucks.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Like it seems like it sucks for the industry and they should be, I'm not saying they should like bury the shows that people actually want to watch. And I'm sure that's like more cost effective, but it does feel like you would want to like make shows coming out and being watched by a bunch of people uh an event that people like paid attention to and like marketed but instead they're just it's all kind of in this weird between area where it's like yeah well if it comes back out on netflix or like it hits the
Starting point is 00:26:02 netflix algorithm again uh it will kick back up i feel like they do that for things that they could turn into like an amusement park like i know last of us got so much shit and just recently in like halloween horror nights there was a last of us maze i don't know how you could do like a horror maze of beef or something you know or the rehearsal it just doesn't fit that way and therefore they can't market it in that way the beef needs to like turn into a fast and furious style thing where it's just like road rage the tv show road rage the ride that's true the last of us was huge that was a huge show this year. Was that this year? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:47 That can't be true. You guys are all wrong. Because it was in the summer. I remember because my partner's sister was staying with us this summer and she was loving or not. She's a big fan of the show. She was checking in every week. Huh. I'm going to continue to not believe you.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Anna, you said that Apple TV had some hits that people are sleeping on? Yeah, I mean, I thought so. Like Jam said, platonic. Then there was shrinking. The big door prize was really fun. That's just a random assortment of words. That's not the show. Hello Tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:27:26 What is the big door prize? I literally was Googling it. It's the Chris O'Dowd show that was really interesting, kind of sci-fi-y, but also really funny and well-written. I really enjoyed it. I thought that was going to be a game show,
Starting point is 00:27:44 but instead it's like, is it about a game show? No, it's like because that i thought that was going to be a game show but instead it's like is it about a game show no it's about this like machine that shows up in this small town and it like the machine if you put your information in it it prints your like destiny and so it like throws this small town for a loop because all these different people learn like what their destinies are. And it's very interesting show. I really enjoyed it. That sounds great. And truly, I can't believe it exists.
Starting point is 00:28:13 That's so weird. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm telling you. There's a lot of great Apple TV shows that were slept on. Are they doing it on purpose? They just like don't want people to. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:23 But I think people just don't have Apple TV. Yeah. I think a people don't want people to i don't know but i think people just don't have apple tv yeah i think a people don't have apple t i'm very intrigued by this trailer just because i feel like every trailer for an apple tv show looks the same now like am i like they have like a house style yeah yeah which i'm sure is part of Apple's branding, but I just realized how formulaic these trailers are looking coming out of Apple TV. It's a lot of people on nice couches FaceTiming other people. Well, it's like the camera angles and the coloring, because I was watching this one on mute
Starting point is 00:28:57 as we were talking, and it reminded me of the Midnight Shyamalan show that was on Apple TV too, even though it's a wildly different genre. Yeah, I watched that show too. Which one? I don't remember what it was called, but it was like that baby that was like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Oh, Servant. That was weird. Severance didn't come out this year, right? What? No, no. No, okay. But like that might as well have come out this year if The Last of Us came out.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Again, I don't believe that it did. I feel like the only thing I finished this year was Netflix's House of Usher. The fall of the House of Usher? Yeah, the fall of the House of Usher. The prequel, just the House of Usher. Yes, the fall of the House of Usher? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The fall of the House of Usher. The prequel, just the House of Usher. Just the House of Usher.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Yes, the fall of the House of Usher, the Mike Flanagan thriller, horror thriller. He has done it like the past few years. He's had like four, I think, with Netflix now. But I felt like it was kind of mid in comparison to his other, I love a Mike Flanagan project, but I felt like in comparison.
Starting point is 00:30:04 What else did he make? He did The Haunting of Hill House, The Haunting of Bly Manor, kind of mid in comparison to his other i love a mike flanagan project but i felt like in comparison he did uh the haunting of hill house the haunting of blind manor uh he did midnight mass uh i think he did this other one that's like um i don't know it was more of like a kids thriller or not kids midnight club oh yes midnight club i was like it was another version yeah it all has to be named after like a house of some sort or like a building but i feel like haunting a hill house will always be the best like i feel like it was top tier it was like story element script acting it was like the best of the best of all of the pieces i feel like it was the most intense in terms of like connection and it felt very like vibrant and sad but the rest of the best of all of the pieces. I feel like it was the most intense in terms of like connection
Starting point is 00:30:45 and it felt very like vibrant and sad. But the rest of them have been kind of like up and down campy. They're all fun and enjoy. And if you love like a Halloween-y, spooky thriller type of thing, all a fun watch. But I felt like this one kind of fell flat
Starting point is 00:30:59 if you're thinking of like Haunting of Hill House and Midnight Mass to me were his top two. But it's the only project I didn't... I don't even think I finished Beef. I didn't finish Bear. I didn't finish Daisy Jones and the Six. Even though I enjoyed all those things, I got overwhelmed. Yeah, it was the only TV, scripted TV.
Starting point is 00:31:16 I watched a lot of unscripted television this year. American Horror Story, I watched Kim Kardashian's American Horror Story. Kim Kardashian's. Fun. I think she kind of ate, not going to lie, but don't like that she was a scab for it. So had to reevaluate myself after realizing that
Starting point is 00:31:35 when I was watching it. Wow. I know. I didn't know until I was like halfway through the season. So then I stopped watching. All right. Let's do one more break and we'll come back and give our final thoughts on the year and streaming. We'll be right back.
Starting point is 00:31:55 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members and others whose lives and careers have been impacted just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration.
Starting point is 00:32:42 It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jimei Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed?
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Starting point is 00:33:34 Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it, like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
Starting point is 00:34:11 I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on.
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Starting point is 00:34:56 Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. And Ana, do you have like a top three shows of the year that you want to shout out that you feel like people oh for sure it sounds like you don't it's literally me have you met me yeah no. Have you met me? Yeah. No question. Have you met me? Mm-hmm. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:27 So then how dare you ever question that I would have a top three shows I would recommend? Top shows of the year, I would say one, Jury Duty. Yeah. Incredible television. Fuck, I forgot that came out this year. What a blast. Oh, a joy. A joy.
Starting point is 00:35:48 I also, I would love to give some love to righteous gemstones they're not doing it like they do it on righteous gemstones let me tell you who's not doing it like they do anyone like okay no one no one's doing it like uh danny mcbride is doing it facts and i don't just say that because i like work with Adam Devine all the time because I would say like he's fine in the show. Like it's all about like Judy. Judy Gemstone. Let's give some love to our girl Edie Patterson.
Starting point is 00:36:16 I do feel like they're the show I really love. Two of the best characters of all time. And I've never tuned into it. As someone from the south and loves comedy. Yeah. It's a great show. And then I then i you know of course i have to give absolute love to abbott elementary at yeah 100 great television great television so three those are my top three right now and then you, just some quick love to The Curse, The Bear, Ahsoka, This Fool, Only Murders in the Building, Monarch, That Monster Show. I actually have enjoyed The Buccaneers. If you want a sort of a Bridgerton adjacent style show.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Look, there's so much great television out there, you know? You could be watching if you weren't jack you know i actually ended up watching more than i thought i watched the bear uh which i enjoyed jury duty uh jury duty and the bear probably near the top of my list and yeah let's go with come back to me for the third one anybody else anyone want to call out a show season 3 the other two oh the other two always incredible
Starting point is 00:37:32 yeah let's throw succession in there instead of the bear I would like to give a shout out to the new Scott Pilgrim show I've heard really good things yeah it's great it's i've heard from a lot of people that didn't watch it because they thought
Starting point is 00:37:50 it was just going to be like a remake of the that's literally why i didn't watch it yeah but it's so different and uh it's really interesting it's not quite a remake it's not quite a sequel it's kind of a reimagining but there's like a narrative reason behind that and uh yeah it's not quite a sequel it's kind of a reimagining but there's like a narrative reason behind that and uh yeah it's basically it's also just an interesting thing because it's clearly they went back to uh brian leo malley who wrote the original comics and it's you know it's the product of like when you ask a guy who's older now to go back and work on the story that he wrote when he was, you know, in his twenties or however old he was, it's you're not gonna have the same perspective on that.
Starting point is 00:38:31 And I think it was actually a really interesting show as a result. I'm definitely gonna check that out then. Twizen. Yeah. Cause I love the original Scott Pilgrim. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's, you should definitely check it out.
Starting point is 00:38:44 It's great. And yeah yeah like uh honest that the curse is uh is very good i actually saw the beginning of it in the in a theater and seeing it with an audience just like like literally cringing in their seats going oh like audibly reacting to the discomfort was uh was pretty special i can imagine i know the scene where you could feel how uncomfortable everyone was in that episode so um i'm the opposite of jack i realized that i watched almost no television this year all of my picks were like better call saul which came out last year and then the rehearsal, which came out last year. And then the rehearsal, which also came out last year. So I'll just give a shout out to the curse also because, oh, and Fargo. Fargo is
Starting point is 00:39:32 back this year and I didn't really like last season, but it's really coming back pretty hard. Is it? I go so in and out with Fargo because I'm like, what are we doing here? Are you good this season or are you not good this season? Make up your mind! It feels like it's going back to its roots and especially the first
Starting point is 00:39:54 shot is the definition of what Minnesota nice is. And so they're really leaning in hard with the extreme violence mixed with the aw heck of it all you know so yeah so i'm i'm really enjoying it so far i'm a little behind and not to spoil but there is like an r-rated version of home alone just in the middle of the series so it's pretty fantastic oh is that what that like clip of like macaulay culkin that goes viral is
Starting point is 00:40:26 about no i don't know it's not it's just like somebody home alone okay i was no it's just somebody defending their house with violence yeah it is like a bunch of like traps but they show what the real world effects would have been yeah Yeah. And it's pretty, it's pretty special. I love it. Yeah. Every once in a while, like a, some like guy in the middle of nowhere will home alone his house, but with like real weapons and it's frequently a disaster.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Oh, and poker face came out this year too. Once mentioned poker face come out this year. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A long year. Poker face came out this year too. I wanted to mention Poker Face. Did Poker Face come out this year? Oh yeah, it did. Yeah, it's been a long year. Poker Face was a lot of fun. One of my favorite first episodes of a show. Like, first couple episodes of the show
Starting point is 00:41:12 were really great. Great performance, great. We talked about how Columbo was getting a lot of flowers from people this year. And this show felt specifically indebted to Columbo in a lot of ways. But yeah, Poker Face is awesome. Did people watch Columbo this year?
Starting point is 00:41:35 That was the thing that happened, right? I'm not making that up. Yeah, but I didn't know anyone else did. Yeah, I heard a lot of people talking. There was a thing where someone was talking about how they're the family tree of like the best tv writing that ever happened like you can trace it all back to colombo like it all like all the people who made the greatest prestige tv of all time were people who either worked on colombo or worked for people who worked on Columbo.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Because they all quit because Peter Falk was a maniac and went to different shows. I think he was very controlling of the character. Yeah. Actually, that was my favorite TV of the year was by far watching DVDs of Columbo with my son when we all had COVID. And he wasn't able to sleep so it's like sure you can watch this with us so we all watch colombo and uh yeah
Starting point is 00:42:33 because i was like i guess it's appropriate for kids you know there's no blood or swearing and yeah it was great that's gonna be the number one show of 2024 colombo people are gonna be like have you guys seen this fucking thing Columbo alright Anna any final word before we yeah you know
Starting point is 00:42:55 I really enjoy television and I'm excited to see what's next year because with the strikes anything can happen. Yeah. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:12 All right. Well, thank you guys so much for joining us. That is going to do it for this episode. We've got another year ender coming tomorrow and then back the following day with an all new episode of the Daily Zeitgeist. So we'll talk to you all then. And thanks for listening. Bye. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career.
Starting point is 00:43:51 That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jess Costavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
Starting point is 00:44:19 And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil.
Starting point is 00:44:53 I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

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