The Daily Zeitgeist - R&B Predator(s?), More like Bohemian Crap-City 1.8.19
Episode Date: January 8, 2019In episode 304, Jack and special guest host Laci Mosley are joined by comedian Casey Ley to discuss the R. Kelly docuseries, Cynthoia Brown being granted clemency, the video of Drake bringing an under...age woman on stage, the sonic attacks in Havana, the Golden Globes, Kevin Hart's lack of an apology, motherfucker-like insults from around the world, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Surviving R Kelly: what we can learn from the shocking new series2. Gov. Haslam grants clemency to Cyntoia Brown, to be released Aug. 73. Drake Kisses, Caresses 17-Year-Old Fan Onstage In Newly Surfaced Video4. 'Sonic attack' on US embassy in Havana could have been crickets, say scientists5. The Best and Worst of the Golden Globes6. Where Are Kevin Hart’s Past Apologies? An Investigation7. Kevin Hart Responds to Don Lemon’s Comments Over ‘Ellen’ Interview8. The 9 Most Devastating Insults From Around the World9. WATCH: LA Priest - Oino (Official Video) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 64, Episode 2 of Dare Daily Zeitgeist,
the podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness using the headlines, box office reports, TV rating, what's trending on Google and social media.
It's Tuesday, January 8th, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Dr. Jackal and Mr. O'Brien.
And I'm thrilled to be joined today by my special guest co-host Lacey Mosley. Hey it's me Lacey Mosley aka
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Scare me, Lacey, one more time.
Wow.
That was the first AK that was actually a better vocal performance than the original.
That was very...
I love Renee.
That was wonderful.
Thank you so much for being with us.
It's so great to see you again.
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We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious comedian, Casey Lay.
It's live, but hey, thank you.
Casey Lay.
It's all right.
I got that right.
It's all right.
Last time.
Happy to be here.
Yeah, you know what?
I deserve credit for that
I appreciate it
It's been
And look
The last time I was supposed to be here
I had plane trouble
So I didn't show up
Yeah
So you know what
I owe you
You own a plane
Payback's a bitch
Yeah yeah yeah
I own a plane
You're paying for a plane
My plane was broken down
It can only take off
In perfect conditions
Because it's a huge piece of shit, but
I have a plane.
Okay?
That would be great. Like a corner-cutting
private jet.
It's still a jet, though.
It's a hammy, hammy, hammy, hammy, hammy, hammy,
hammy down.
It's still a fucking plane.
Alright, Casey Lai. We're going to get to
know you a little bit better in a moment, first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking
about today we're gonna uh continue to talk about the r kelly series uh and also just you know sex
trafficking since that is a related topic unfortunately and uh can't wait the story of Cyntoia Brown,
and there's also that Drake thing
that is somewhat related.
We're also gonna talk about more shit
I was right about with the Havana story.
We're gonna do a quick look back at the Golden Globes,
the globes, you guys, the night the stars come out to shine.
I'm gonna correct myself on the Kevin Hart thing.
We're going to talk about just all the shit that the president seems confused about these days.
But first, Casey, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
I think the most revealing thing that I was just looking at in my search history is that I was looking for WeHo late night
dance parties.
For those of you who don't know, WeHo is
West Hollywood, aka the gayest
place.
I have been
staying, I've been house
sitting on the west side. Usually I live on the east side
and I never go out in WeHo.
I just think it's probably pretty apt
definition of Casey
is Googling at like 2.45 a.m. on a Friday night, late night WeHo dance parties.
And there was only Mickeys and it was terrible.
So anyway, just letting you know that if you have questions on late night dance places
in a lot of Los Angeles, hit me up.
Casey, L-E-Y.
Live.
On Twitter.
So you just had a really strong urge to dance?
I mean, I was hanging out with friends,
and it was one of those things where I was like,
I'm not going to be in WeHo again for a while.
Because you live in East Hollywood,
and that's just too far away.
I mean, I hate to say yes,
so I've been staying in Westwood,
which is further west than West Hollywood,
and I haven't seen friends in a month and a half.
Oh, no.
It is crazy.
Now, is this a nice house?
Because I always hear house sitting.
I'm like, I've never had to let anybody sit in my raggedy-ass house.
It's just not nice enough to need people to sit in it.
Well, this person does better than you, and I have a plane.
Well, actually, it's my ex's house that he shares with his new boyfriend.
Oh, my gosh.
Button for punishment.
No, no, no.
But they're in Europe, and they have my dog that my ex and I used to have.
And my ex and I are good.
His new boyfriend is 21, but that's an ish.
And at least one of us is living that Hollywood lifestyle fantasy
that we've always wanted.
Are you there, like, moving shit?
That's the biggest thing you can do to fuck with someone.
I did that with two of my ex-boyfriends.
Yeah, I learned that in a Dane Cook comedy special.
You just move shit around.
I put his watch in his sock drawer
and, like, his remote control between his mattresses.
Here's the thing is, like, I know it know it's like a tenuous position because the boyfriend
is a little wary of how close
the ex and I still are. My ex and I still are.
Well, because he's a child.
And I'm sorry. I don't want to talk shit.
It sounds like I'm bullying a child, but I'm not.
I'm not. He's taller than me.
He has abs. He has way more Instagram followers.
He's going to be successful
when he grows up one day.
I can't believe I'm saying this. This is so mean.
I can't believe I'm doing this. No, you're wonderful.
Anyway, so I'm there.
Apart from these mean things that I'm saying,
and actually he is a really nice person, I don't want
to not be invited back to hang out with
my dog. So I'm trying to
obey the rules. Keep it chill. The only rule
was don't have sex in their house while they were gone.
Oh, that's mild. It was weird
enough to be there already.
I was like, I'm not going to bring home boys
and be like, oh, cool place.
Well, it's actually my actress.
Long story.
And this is my dog.
Dig in.
What is something you think is underrated?
So I think I'm just going to go with Golden Globe themes here.
And for a show that was nominated for Golden Globes,
it's hard to call it underrated,
but it struggled to get a new season
because of people watching it.
That show is Pose.
Okay.
FX series Pose about trans gay performers
in the, trans queer performers in New York in the 80s.
And it is a fascinating show. in the trans queer performers in New York in the 80s.
And it is a fascinating show.
And it's underrated because no one's watching it.
Not enough people are watching it.
Yeah, we're watching it.
We're watching it.
We are somebodies.
We are somebodies for sure.
And it's a Ryan Murphy joint.
And I feel like the wrong Ryan Murphy joint won awards last night because Pose has,
the actors in it are queer and trans
and they portray queer
and trans people unlike a lot
of other shows. Darren Criss
isn't even gay, right?
Yeah, that's what I've heard.
Also, remember when Transparent came out and they just
let it fucking clean up?
I mean, and here
I love Transparent.
Transparent got problematic
at the end
because of Jeffrey Tambor,
you know,
which, like,
and which is,
which is the issue.
But, like,
I do feel like
it was that point
where it was,
the story was good
and it was acting
and I did kind of
have this idea.
I was like,
you know,
people are allowed to act.
You know,
it's acting.
Yeah.
That being said,
now knowing how many
talented trans,
gay,
like, everyone out there is capable of doing these roles.
To me, if you're not at least really trying to find someone super talented
who owns the experience, it's like on The Crown,
Peter Morgan, who directs The Crown, which is my other favorite show.
I'm gay, by the way.
He's like,
a middle-aged woman
needs to play a middle-aged woman
because she can bring the experience
of a middle-aged woman.
That's why he changes the queen.
He's going to change the queen
every two seasons.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yeah, yeah.
So Olivia Colman is going to play the queen
in the coming up seasons.
Oh, shit.
Where Clara Foy played it before,
and I'm super psyched about that
because the only person
who could play it after Clara Foy is Olivia Colman. I'm super psyched about that because the only person who could play it after Claire
Foy is Olivia Colman.
I have a lot to say about all of this.
Anyway, long story short, it's a great show.
It's emotional and it's super entertaining.
If you've seen Paris is Burning, the documentary about ball, drag ball culture in the 80s and
90s in New York, this is what that is about
got it
and it's glittery
fantastic
and super enjoyable
and Billy Porter
is a national gem
and he should have
won a Golden Globe
oh my gosh
he really should have
he was amazing
he told me I was cute
one time
that's all I needed
that is the most
validation that anybody
needs
best performance
by somebody
who called me cute
what is something
you think is overrated
and I'm going to stick with the Golden Globes and I'm sorry to say I think Bohemian Rhapsody Somebody who called me cute. What is something you think is overrated?
And I'm going to stick with the Golden Globes.
And I'm sorry to say, I think Bohemian Rhapsody is overrated.
And I didn't think this was going to be an issue because it didn't really get the reviews,
the good positive reviews.
And so I wasn't worried.
It made a lot of money.
I'm happy when anything makes money.
You know, that's great.
Make that money. But the problem was it shouldn't have won the best drama.
Put it in the musical category first of all.
Right.
Okay.
I was confused.
I had to like check.
I was like, oh, they mistakenly put it in the best drama category.
Those categories are such trash.
Like make up your mind.
Seriously.
Seriously.
Especially the comedy music.
Just we don't throw anything over here category.
There's like one like actual musical produced a year now.
Yeah.
And then you have A Star is Born and which is a drama, sure, but it's also a musical
drama.
Yeah, it's a musical.
And then Bohemian Rhapsody, which is basically just a concert film, like a CGA concert film.
Then that's a musical too.
But the issue for me is that as a gay hiv positive man uh working in this uh society
to have the icon of queer hiv positive representation whether he was out at the time
or not he is like very much associated with it you know that's like it's like making a movie
about keith herring without including any of the gay sex or the HIV. Like they allude to all of it a lot.
There is there.
They treat Freddie's homosexuality as like a curse that brings him down.
Right.
They treat it as like the thing that ruined Queen, you know.
Right.
And I just am like, I just couldn't believe that's the direction they went with the movie.
No, I can believe that that's the direction they went with the movie.
But I can't believe it's being honored.
You know, like this makes us feel better when literally like all the homosexuality
that is portrayed in the movie is like passing glances at like dirty
cock sucking bars, you know?
You know, the good old dirty cock sucking bars.
It's just all like dark temptation, right?
And then he ends up.
They treat it like it's a heroin addiction or something.
And it's not.
It's what made his music what it was.
It's who made him who he was.
It's a part of who he is.
And yeah, I know exactly what you mean by that.
And they're like his poor suffering wife.
And it's like, sure, but also like that's not the reality of their relationship.
They also fucked with the timeline hard. So like it's not that's not the reality of their relationship they also fucked with the timeline hard
so like
it's not even a true
like true story
it's like
based on
inspired by
the life of Queen
and then
and then fucking
the rest of Queen
well only two of them
I guess John Deacon
didn't okay any of
and didn't like
sign off on all of it
but the
but the other two
Brian May
Brian May
and Drummer
yeah he they were they were But the other two, Brian May and Drummer,
it seems like they wanted to save the legacy and not make Freddie out to be the fucking flamboyant,
proud motherfucker that he was.
He was a peacock.
He was a peacock.
Right.
And you saw the peacock part,
but you didn't see the things that made him a peacock.
Right.
Right.
Why he loved peacocks so much.
So overrated Bohemian Rhapsody.
I mean, Golden Globes, whatever.
Yeah.
And finally, what's a myth?
What's something people think is true you know to be false?
Something that people think is true that I know to be false.
What did I write down?
Oh, this was the thing.
I kind of fucked this up,
because I worked on this for something else,
but I would say the thing that I think is true
that people don't know is that
this is related to the queen thing.
Princess Diana, no one realized,
but she was a real cool party animal.
Really?
Yeah.
And I know this because she went to a gay bar
with Freddie Mercury disguised as a man
and I was reading this whole
story about the entire thing
she just was a cool person who wanted to have fun
and so
I don't think it's a myth to be like
Princess Diana was like
a bitch
but I just
kind of thought it was crazy
that Freddie Mercury took Princess Diana
in the late 80s to a gay bar in London, incognito,
and nobody knew who she was.
Yeah, Lady Di liked to turn up.
Yeah.
I like that.
And I love that it was like all of these,
because Freddie went to all the gay fetish bars.
She went to like a gay fetish bar.
Oh, so she was like some wild shit.
Let's not even know regular shit.
You know, you're like,
oh, a gay bar.
We can have flirt TV.
No, she was at...
Everyone thinks fucking Meghan Markle
is the coolest princess.
No, that's the myth debunked.
It's Princess Diana.
She's still the coolest.
Meghan Markle, go to a leather bar.
Come down to fucking the Eagle
in Silver Lake,
and then we'll talk about
who's the coolest British royal.
Hell yeah.
All right. Let's get into about who's the coolest British royal. Hell yeah. All right.
Let's get into the stories in the zeitgeist.
So the R. Kelly series, Lacey, you were saying it concluded over the weekend?
Yes, it concluded over the weekend.
And this is a docu-series, a six-part docu-series about the victims of his systematic sexual
abuse.
It's honestly shocking.
Obviously, R. Kelly peeing on people
has been in the cultural zeitgeist
since Dave Chappelle said this.
But I think that we all kind of,
because of the media and how it was treated,
took his behavior lightly.
When I watched this six-part documentary
with countless victims,
also, no one was paid in this documentary these people came
forward and told their personal business for free and you could say like some people would want fame
or recognition but if you watch these women talking you're like no they this is from a
different place there was just an earnesty and a sincerity from everyone who was speaking in this
documentary and also from the people who were helping this motherfucker get away with these damn
crimes.
His assistant speaks in this.
And I was like, if I was his assistant, I would have been under that little black curtain.
My voice would have been talking like this.
She would have never known to watch me.
Like, bitch, I'm not about to be out here with my whole face on television telling people
that I ate it in bed and this goddamn child molester sicko.
Yeah.
And it was like very systematic.
Oh, absolutely. damn child molester sicko. Yeah. And it was like very systematic, right?
Oh, absolutely.
So there were some words that kept reappearing that really kind of solidified for me
the truth of this story,
which were words like training.
Like R. Kelly would tell these girls,
he would target them at concerts.
He had a whole, first of all,
this motherfucker had a whole system now.
You know when he, first of all,
before I get to the first of all,
all you artists need to stop bringing regular people up on stage get plants like donald trump
does at his rallies don't be out here with real motherfucking people on your stage stop doing it
it's whack and then don't pee on them exactly don't be on them after donald trump at least pays
for it right but like and even the things that we used to joke about like watching this documentary and
watching all of these black women it was honestly very cringy for me because black women get the
burnt end of the stick so often no one protects us not even our own men sorry i'm still saying
it because it's true but y'all can add me on twitter the black men love to fight with me on
twitter uh i'll be where i'm always at on my timeline so come catch me catch me on my timeline
but
to be honest
it was amazing
how much he's gotten away with
simply because his victims
were women of color
and also
the systems that he had created
that were functioning
and have been functioning
for 30 plus years
at his concerts
he would bring the girls on stage
and you know
sing to them
or whatever the fuck
and then instead of letting them go off stage the way they came they always had to go backstage
and through the backstage so he could get his people on them and get their numbers and target
the ones that he felt like were weak enough to manipulate like he had a whole fucking system
this motherfucker was always at the high school i thought that was a joke he was at the high school
literally went to high schools hanging Hanging out at high schools.
And also the mall, which I will bring up later.
But he would go to the mall and he would target young women at the mall as well.
Just like incognito or like, I mean, I haven't watched this yet.
So his system is he would walk past and then his henchmen, who some of them, one of them had the decency to cover his goddamn face and mumble his voice.
But the other one is out here just kiki-ing and laughing about how he fucking forged some documents for Aaliyah's marriage, making her 18 when she was really 15.
That's a story I know.
Yeah.
And he reflects on it.
He was like, yeah, she kind of looked at me like she wanted help.
And I guess I should have tried to help her.
Yes.
I mean.
And we all thought.
And what's so gross is we thought.
Because I remember the Aaliyah thing. I was quite young. But we thought because I remember the Aaliyah thing
I was quite young
but we were like
oh Aaliyah 15
that's kind of old
15 is not old
no it's not old
to us at the time
at the time
it's like the Lewinsky thing
and she was a beautiful girl
they put makeup on her
175 years ago
right
and like on the wagon trail
right
you know that's a different story.
A creepy different story.
Right.
But that's the past.
Now it's not okay.
And I feel like that's insane to me.
And also just the network.
This is what terrifies me and is no longer surprising is in all of these stories, there are, it's not just a predator,
especially these predators who get away with it
for so long
who are famous.
It is a network
of their supporters
and their enablers
and their money people
because they're the money train.
Yeah, RCA still has R. Kelly signed
and I just signed a petition last night
to drop him from the record label
because he's still making money.
And he's still guesting
on songs all over the place.
And writing songs.
He wrote basically the whole soundtrack to Sparkle.
We were talking.
Yeah, that's the thing.
The last movie I cried to, On a Plane.
On a Plane.
On your plane.
On your own plane.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's why I was late.
That's why I couldn't make it that last time I was bawling to Sparkle.
It's crazy because I think we all thought it was isolated.
Like, oh, Aaliyah's beautiful and mature. That's why. This't make it that last time I was bawling to Sparkle. It's crazy because I think we all thought it was isolated. Like, oh, Aaliyah's beautiful and mature.
That's why this was just an isolated incident.
But it's like he has crafted a system.
Trained kept coming up.
That word was very operative in the documentary series of like R. Kelly would tell the girls that he would train them on how to have sex and know, be whatever kind of woman he wanted in captivity.
And then eventually his system was so advanced that he had a woman who he had broken down so much that she was the trainer.
So she would be incepting these women when they came in and training them on how to behave and how to, you know.
So were they living with him?
I mean, I got to watch this because I feel uninformed.
He has women living with him in several different states.
Some would be living in Atlanta.
Some would be living in Chicago.
Some would be holed up in hotels in Los Angeles so that when he visited Los Angeles, he would
go see those women who were in hotels.
And they weren't allowed to leave.
They weren't allowed to eat without asking him.
They're not allowed to use the bathroom without asking him.
He was physically abusing all of these women.
I mean, it's-
It's crazy.
And they're so-
We have to see Monsters in the Mists. Many. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm looking at the all of these women. It's crazy. And there's so many. Monsters in the midst.
I'm looking at the cover of her album.
Her album, Age Ain't Nothing But a Number.
Which this motherfucker told us the whole time.
That's also what's crazy.
She's in the foreground.
He is leaning against the wall like a pedophile,
looking at her like blur.
He's like blurry in the background.
Leering.
Yeah, leering with a vest and no shirt underneath. which i guess was kind of a wave at the time but still but also is very creepy
yes he's also told i think a huge argument for r kelly and a reason he's lasted so long as the
whole separate the art from the artist but r kelly's art is yeah this. The R in R. Kelly stands for right.
He never told us
it stood for Robert. He called himself Uncle
R. He called himself
the Pied Piper of this R&B
shit. The Pied Piper
of this R&B shit.
Meaning I play my pipe
and children follow.
He told us this whole time age
ain't nothing but a number.
Trapped in a closet.
He had women trapped in the closet.
Everyone's like, he's gay.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
It's women trapped in the closet.
Don't bring us into this, okay?
Right, right.
Yes.
No, so he's told us.
He's been a monster hiding in plain sight all this time.
And because of money, and because also, I think think of society's unwillingness to let go of
things that have impacted our lives personally because it feels like if we say mute r kelly
then we have to mute every moment that was involved with r kelly we all sang at five years
old at least at the black schools we all sang the little um i forget which i'm not trying to be rude
that's what oh no we sang sang the positive one that was like,
now I can believe I can fly.
Oh, I believe I can fly.
It might be
I can believe I can fly.
There's one little song
that I can't remember
but as a five year old.
I believe I can fly
is a,
I'm not even gonna,
it's a real heartwarming song
written and sung
by a monster.
Yeah.
What's your favorite song
written and sung
by a monster?
Yeah,
Total Monster.
There's a lot.
There's a lot of songs. There's a lot there's a lot there's a lot
well that's what i was gonna say i mean it's like it is it's we um have to accept the fact that if
we you know if we start accepting all this which we should it's that we really have to go back and
call it out and it's not about separate michael jackson i believe was a predator. You know? I mean, I think he was super fucked up.
You know?
And I'm not...
He's dead, which is the only thing I feel like
that makes it more convenient for all of us.
Yeah, it helps.
It helps.
And he means so much to all of us.
And I mean, like, I don't know.
It's just...
It's hard to...
The question is, can you separate the art from the artist?
I mean...
Not in R. Kelly's case.
His music is literally about attacking children.
Do you know the song You Are Not Alone that he wrote for Michael Jackson is about a young woman that he got pregnant and then had, like, get an abortion?
I did not know that.
Wait, really?
Yes.
That's fucking awesome.
The woman is in the documentary.
Like, she chose to have the abortion.
It's not like he forced her, but it's about her.
Jesus Christ.
And this is also a woman that he gave a very almost deadly disease to.
Yeah, it's crazy.
But also, now that I think about it, I can do without R. Kelly's music.
Yes, you can.
You know, what does he have?
Feeling on your booty?
I don't need to sing Feeling on Your Booty no more.
I Can Believe I Can Fly is basic as shit.
Yeah, yeah.
It'd be hot and fresh out the kitchen.
That's the one that is. It's a hot and fresh out the kitchen. God damn.
It's a good one.
That's a tough one to let go, but I think we have to.
Listen, I can.
There's so many other songs about cars, thanks to heterosexual men.
Thinking that that is an amazing metaphor.
For a woman that they just thought of.
Ignition.
So the key goes in the...
The key is the penis.
But we need a new place to go after the after party
because we can't go to the hotel lobby anymore.
Damn, we sure can't.
We have to find a new place.
And we were talking about Omarion came out
and was saying that he wasn't going to perform
any more of the songs that R. Kelly had written for B2K
because that's the other thing R. Kelly wrote
for a lot of very popular musicians.
Listen, B2K is coming back out.
All right, all right, all right, all right.
I'm selling B2K starter packs for y'all out there, okay?
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Boots with the Furs, okay?
Oh, I didn't remember that song.
That was a good song.
So we can go to the B2K concert,
but R. Kelly wrote Bum, Bum, Bum.
I'm gonna have to Bum, Bum that off my playlist.
I actually, I'm gonna need to go through
and I just wanna find out all songs written by R. Kelly so I can but that's the thing can you
can you if it if it wasn't like him performing it you know he's writing him and if it's not about
um peeing on people and uh locking them in a way like if like if it's about I don't know
that's I guess it's all he sings about right so it's just crazy that it's about, I don't know, I guess that's all he sings about. Right.
It's just crazy that it's taken us 30 years to cancel him with all the information that's come out.
But I mean, Cosby, you know,
I mean, Cosby was more intertwined
in our hearts and in our lives
and in media and culture,
and that just happened.
But it did happen, you know?
And that's another guy who had all these enablers.
And the last thing I have to say about this
is directed especially at people
who believe that the attack of R. Kelly
has to do with his race
is that this is not a race issue, okay?
I'm sorry.
Creeps are creeps
and I don't give a fuck if they're black
and I know it's harder for black people
but listen, black folks shouldn't be out here
trying to bolster up creeps
simply because they're African American and y'all need to quit that shit yeah thank you and i think your point
about you know the race of his victims having something to do with the fact that the culture
was able to overlook it for so long is probably the more apt absolutely and just one more call
back brian singer helped direct fucking bohemian Rhapsody so it's a gay problem too
and let's not whitewash that part
and also
another reason why
we should just cancel
Bohemian Rhapsody
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And unfortunately, this is going to be a bit of a theme across the first half of our episode. So, I mean,
not unfortunately in the respect that Cyntoia Brown, who was serving a life sentence for
murdering a man who was paying to have sex with her when she was 16, was just granted clemency,
which a lot of people were pushing for for a long time. She was a victim of human trafficking.
And when she was first convicted,
they just didn't take into account that she was underage,
that she was being sexually abused,
that she was a victim of human trafficking.
And human trafficking is actually,
it's between a $10 billion and $ 32 billion dollar worldwide industry which to put that in
perspective 10 billion is four times the entire burger king chain and 83 percent of sex trafficking
incidents in the u.s involved victims that were u.s citizens it's estimated that right now 300,000
kids are in that situation by the fbi and you know the the FBI freed in June of 2014, they freed 168 kids who had been sold into
sex slavery since 2008, at least 4,000 kids.
So it's a problem that I think just in general, we don't like to look at it, whether it's
R. Kelly or, you know, uh,
just somebody in our, in our city. And I think it's one of those things that we tend to hope
that when we see somebody in a really unfortunate circumstance, that it's not as bad as we might
think, or it's, you know, that, that they did something to deserve that or some shit like that. And it's just, you know, there are victims all around us
and more of them than we might think.
Thanks for bringing me on to a super light show.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
I think this is something that I'm going to say
and I'm just, whatever.
People want to fuck kids. And it's something that we don't say and i'm just whatever people want to fuck kids and it's a and
it's something that that we don't talk we don't talk about sex as a society and as a result of
that we allow these um systems of bad unhealthy uh exploitative sex to exist and that's a very
basic understanding of it but um like i don't want to defend Roseanne Barr too much, but she used to talk a lot about how Hollywood is full of pedophiles.
And it becomes clearer and clearer that that is real.
And it becomes clearer and clearer that that's real throughout society.
And so it's a crazy thing to say, but it's real.
And we need to talk about weird stuff more openly as a society.
I don't think that's going to happen,
but like,
like that's why like this secret industry of $10 billion,
you know,
we could open up the government with half that.
Okay.
And,
um,
it's a lot of fucking money.
And,
and I,
you know,
I don't,
I don't really have anything intelligent to say beyond like,
like people are,
humans are,
are crazy.
And,
and,
and kids are, kids are often, you know, the ones who are dealing with the things that fucked up adults do.
Yeah, I mean, I think you're absolutely right.
I mean, honestly, also speaking of crazy.
Shout out to Kim K.
She put a lot of her celebrity behind Centoya Brown and behind the publicity behind you know what essentially
freed this black woman
this is the second
black woman
that Kim Kardashian
has helped get out of jail
and I just
I can't say nothing
about her ass no more
I might have to go out
and get some of this
KKW beauty
god damn bitch
listen
I used to be like
oh Kim K got that butt
from us
listen you earned
that booty child
okay
thank you so much
and I'm thinking about
there's a woman
who used sex to her advantage
openly and unashamedly.
Right.
And now is doing good things
with the benefits she's reaped.
And everyone wants to call her a slut.
Yeah, but she's doing social good work.
Oh, yeah, and I never called her that.
Yeah, but people did.
I know.
I'm very happy to see a woman get paid
from some damn sex shit.
Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
It's honorable to give out your pussy for free.
But sex, you want some coins on that nice thing, and then it's a problem?
And let's be real.
Look, who hasn't?
I don't know you guys that well, but I for sure have sent my fair share of questionablely accepted pictures of various states of undressing things.
And as someone who wants to become more famous, thank God for Kim Kardashian and Paris Hilton
putting sex out there in the beginning.
So when I do become famous and maybe my penis or butthole becomes open onto the public imagination,
who cares?
Who cares?
Okay?
But also, shout out to all this news that seems to be putting the subjugation of black
women in the forefront.
Yeah.
Because it's really important that we talk about it and that we help change it and help black women so yes there's also the drake thing that broke over the weekend where it's a old video of him
at a concert where he's 2010 from 2010 where he is you, kissing and dancing with a girl who he then finds out is 17 and then continues kissing and groping her.
And quotes like, oh, you're 17.
I don't want to go to jail.
I really enjoyed this.
I hope that's not bad.
I really like the way your breasts feel against my chest.
This is the audio.
This is the audio from This is the audio.
This is direct audio from that video.
Drake, this is not what I thought you meant by sicko mode.
Drake, come on now Aubrey.
I can't be listening to you if you're gonna be out here touching on little kids.
The thing that I wanted to bring up in comparison with R. Kelly is in that documentary they talk about kind of the system that he had.
He would go to high schools. We talked about that.
He would also go to the mall.
And you know where Drake goes to meet lots of his women?
The mall. How does Drake
just go to the mall?
It's in the same fashion. He goes to the mall,
walks around, shops a little bit, and has his
entourage give information
to specific women that he finds
attractive or whatever. i've also been
to drake concert i love drake and i hope that he's not out here touching on his little children
but i've been to drake concerts and been asked to go backstage when i was younger and win and
nothing bad happened so i was like okay hopefully he's not out here creeping but also that thing
with millie bobby brown right so this is out of it i know i'm sorry the the thing with Millie Bobby Brown. Right. So this is... I'm so out of it. I know. I'm sorry. The thing with Millie Bobby Brown
is just that he has a very advisory relationship
with her where she's like,
he always gives me advice on who to date.
And we text.
That's called grooming.
Right.
It's just a weird thing that he was also dating
a girl who was close to underage,
if not underage,
at the time that that news broke.
And so on our Looking Forward 2019 Predictions episode
that Lacey co-hosted, we talked about, we were like,
we hope that this Drake thing doesn't develop
into a full-fledged trend,
and then this news breaks a week later.
And just for legalistic terms like
in certain places 17 is the age of consent for certain things is this a video of non-con is this
a video of like aggressive no consensual it's completely what happens at a lot of concerts
which is like a fan comes up and i'm sure the girl looked like she would have it was having a
good time but it's just that, that is the age of consent.
But I guess, what, nine years ago, Drake's 32 now.
He would have been, he was kind of young.
He would have been like 23 in that video.
And it's like, and look, so far, I don't want to,
just because the other two things have been so intense,
I don't want to like lump it in.
No, and we don't either.
I just said I love Drake.
And I really hope that he calms his ass down
because I don't,
I don't want,
look,
getting rid of a Drake catalog
would actually be
very, very hard for me.
Yeah, that would be difficult.
And the other thing though
is like,
if he knows this is out there now
and he can't,
be like,
you know what,
maybe I'll leave the 17 year old.
19's acceptable,
you know?
Like,
if you can't do that,
then you got a fucking problem,
Jake.
Right, exactly.
And also, this might have just been
a couple of errors in judgment.
I think we all say and do inappropriate things
from time to time.
This was the thing we were raising our eyebrows at
on the Daily Zeitgeist,
and it seemed to enter the general Zeitgeist
this past weekend with this video.
So we at least wanted to bring it up.
There's also the Havana thing
that we were
talking about a lot on the daily zeitgeist that i thought it was mass hysteria then there was a
new yorker article that made me think maybe i was wrong well now scientists have come out and said
that the sound that was recorded that was supposedly the sonic attack was actually the
indies short-tailed cricket. Wait, really?
Yeah.
It wasn't Russian meddling with American brains?
At least the sound that they got on recording.
And I went back and read the ProPublic article
that kind of did a beat-for-beat breakdown
of how the story came together
and how everybody started reporting this.
One of the key factors that made people start thinking something
was up was this sound and like so one guy reported that he was like feeling headaches and nausea
and uh he did have inner ear damage and so they were like this guy definitely has something and
then he went over to somebody else's house and they heard that sound and he was like that's the
sound i've been hearing and then they recorded it and it was a cricket and it was just a cricket that they weren't
used to this is the remake the cricket remake right it's just a type of cricket well the guy
specifically says in his quote as he's like at first i was just like it's probably we're in a
foreign country that i've never been to it's probably like a type of insect i've never heard
and yes that was what it was but you just like turned it into this whole and a lot of it is like the Trump
administration getting out in front of the story trying to make it a thing because they wanted to
blow up the whole Cuba Obama thing and they said it was a bunch of people too and I imagine that
like one person says they have symptoms of something and then that could like whatever
that effect is I'm sure that that was part of it as well and some people have like they've looked at their brains and say that there was like concussive
damage of some sort strong cricket right brain yeah right brain stuff is also very foggy and
we'll see how it develops maybe there was an attack that was going on and then it was like
you know everybody's attention was thrown off because of this weird cricket sound.
We'll see.
But let's move on to the Golden Globes, you guys.
We've given it the necessary day
to decompress from the Globes.
I think the day after the Globes
should be a national holiday,
where we just get to, you know.
At least in LA.
Right, right.
A city-wide holiday.
That's what people say in the rest of the country
after the Super Bowl,
so I thought it would be really out of touch
for me to say that after the Golden Globes.
Oh, right.
But, so what'd you guys think?
Any takeaways?
It seemed like it was sort of a light on events,
an uneventful, I it was a dry humans put that
yeah because they're like there was the actress from this is us potentially calling allison brie
off mic or on like on a hot mic and that was like the main story that came away from it and it turns
out she wasn't probably calling it's for sure not true I know the
guy who was interviewing so weird brag no but I wish it was true because then
it would have been more lit also shout out to Chrissy Metz girl you better
absorb this minute cuz I only knew you from you know the girl who was making me
cry every goddamn week you know get out here and get you some coins girl get you
a commercial going splash some Neutrogena on your faces this show
moment but it was dry other than that like they even had to fabricate
that drama by design i am imagining like they just wanted not to stir any pot i mean that i feel i
feel that way i mean like the opening you know it was good it was solid and there were some laughs
and there were some moments,
but it was not like Sandra Oh and Andy Samberg did a super acceptable job, you know?
Super acceptable is shade.
Yeah, sure.
It is.
It was just weird.
Everything got spread around.
I was upset with some of the awards,
but overall it was like I put on a little bit of delay
so I could fast forward through the commercials.
And in the end, I found myself fast forwarding through the acceptance speeches too too, because I was like, no, I don't care about anything.
I don't care what anyone's going to say.
It kind of set that tone.
And then a shameless brag about a connection to my future second cousin in law once removed, won a Golden Globe last night.
So, Lady Gaga, if you are listening, I know we haven't met yet, but I am.
That could have been anybody.
I thought you were going to say Regina King.
I was like, that many distance.
Stephanie Gaga.
We're taking her last name, all of us.
I don't feel like she was robbed in the acting category because Olivia Colman was the deserved winner of that.
She killed it.
It's amazing.
It's so good.
I never saw it.
It's good.
Sorry. I saw Emma Stone was in it it and I was like, no thanks.
And she, in my mind, she's good in this
but she is the weakest link of the three main stars
in all of that.
But they're all really strong.
They're all really strong.
Rachel Weisz is so good in it
and I feel like she didn't win supporting
because they split the ticket on it.
But so Lady Gaga, my family member, future family member,
she won the best song and she looked amazing
like we do in the family.
God.
I'm really proud of her.
Family resemblance.
Your cousin's engaged to her.
My second cousin, once removed, is engaged, Christian Carino.
He's like a big super agent at CAA.
And I couldn't talk about this forever
because it was kind of a secret. Family secret secret and so we're all just very excited my mom was
feeling pretty sick yesterday and then she called me and couldn't stop talking
about archives and she calls her Steph and I'm like just yeah she knows what
she asked more questions about Lady Gaga than she does about my career and all that,
and she really shows what her priorities are.
I didn't...
God, it was just so dry.
For people who aren't from Hollywood,
I feel like the Golden Globes is good
for making you hate Hollywood,
like focusing your hatred.
I thought that Jeff Bridges' speech
was really a peak moment for that
where he like droned on about stuff that occurs to you when you get really high for the first time
and then like made life into a tag metaphor where being it means you are like supernaturally
blessed by god to have everything go really well in your life. And it's just like a way for him to understand
the insanely good fortune.
Like, he's a talented dude.
It's like that Beyonce video.
I love a lot of his movies, but it's just like...
Why did God make me this talented?
Right, exactly.
Why am I so beautiful?
Right.
Jeff Bridges got up and did that.
Yeah, just his way of explaining
why the universe is cosmically conspiring
to make everything awesome and revolve around him.
And then you behave as though it does.
And then, I don't know, Hollywood believes you because it's a weird town that's controlled by power brokers.
Yeah.
And, yeah.
And in that role, in the last two years, wasn't it Meryl and Oprah who, like, both, like, boots the house down the entire time?
Right.
Yeah.
Like, they just brought it up
because like
they were like
we need a white man
to come up here
yeah
are we resetting
was this like
Trump's golden glove
what else
well no
it was all about like
diversity and nominations
like you know
and they drove that home
but in the end
like winning wise
it was like
alright Marvelous Miss Maisel
I guess gets it again sure sure you know likeous Miss Maisel, I guess, gets it again.
Sure, sure.
Right.
The Kaminsky Method.
The Kaminsky Method gets it.
They dug that shit up.
I was like, the Kim Cahoot?
The what?
I was like, which ain't nobody.
I had to look it up because I thought it was some kind of scandal.
Yeah.
I was like, why didn't Atlanta win?
And then I realized Atlanta wasn't even nominated.
The Good Place, Barry, both probably were shows that I know people who watch and like.
The Comiskey Method just seemed like it was one of those things where it was specifically targeted for the elderly people who vote on this award.
My parents loved it and they're in their late 60s.
Which I will say is the only thing that I try not to say to old people people Cause I know I'ma be An old ass bitch one day
You know
I'm out here
With my bejeweled walker and shit
And I still wanna be poppin'
I still wanna be
One of the girls
You know what I mean
Like at first
When I saw Viola Davis
Get her box ate
And had to get away with murder
I said I don't wanna see
My auntie get her box ate
Then I thought
I'ma be an auntie one day
And I'ma be trying
To get my box ate on television
So I can't
Yeah old people fuck
And I'ma be an old
Motherfucker fucking Yeah me too So I can't. Yeah, old people fuck. And I'm going to be an old motherfucker fucking.
Yeah, me too.
So I can't shade too much of the older television
and the older actors getting their little dude.
Just because I'm like, when I'm old as shit,
I hope that somebody will still be trying to, you know,
let me climb on that stage real slow
and talk for 30 minutes.
Yeah.
Well, Carol Burnett was great.
Yeah.
Yes.
That retrospective was awesome
green book is sandra oh shout out sandra oh was awesome green book now jack green book i was not
putting that out there as something else that was awesome i was saying that is this year's like
white savior right you know every year we need one we need a banger we need one white savior
banger and this year it was green book that shit i did not see it
i won't see it i'm done seeing slave movies um and i'm done seeing nice white people movies where
they we drive around in cars and shit we did that driving miss daisy we seen that and then i'm just
like what i i know nothing about this movie but not a single one of the previews have i been like
now that's a groundbreaking movie of something right It's just like two, it's like
musicians in a car driving around together
and I don't, it's like,
that's a podcast or a vlog
that's not a fucking award winning
movie in my mind. But, you know,
maybe I'm missing something. It's just the movie that makes
white people feel good. And I
get it. White people, now that you have to have some kind of
introspection on how horrible you are. We need that.
Y'all need y'all's feel good movie.
You need it.
What's our part in overcoming racism?
Other than being the racists.
What's our part?
And this is it.
How are we the heroes?
We were the nice guy in the car.
Nice guys in cars, you know?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Getting coffee.
Right.
I.
Now listen, if I get offered a role to be in one of those you best believe
my black ass would be up
and they're like
oh Mr. White Man
your shoulder is going to me
ooh child Mr. White Man
okay
and I will deny this
I will deny this podcast
that's so funny
yeah
I mean if R. Kelly
needs a new singer
I mean
no
I just
my career's not where
I wanted to be
no
I'm just kidding.
Sandra Oh was great.
Amazing.
I feel like a lot of people are seeing her in a new light after her hosting gig.
She has been working forever.
I know.
Sandra Oh been out here pounding this damn pavement.
Yeah.
Decades, honey.
She's been in the game.
And I did appreciate that shade that she threw at Emma Stone.
Yeah.
That was great
what was that one
so she talked about
how Asian
before
before Crazy Rich Asians
how many Asian women
had been
what was it
leading roles
yes
leading roles
besides Aloha
and Ghost in a Shell
and then Emma Stone
was like
I'm sorry
from the audience
yeah
and that was
I mean
yeah it's crazy and then I just was reading that I'm sorry from the audience. Yeah. Yeah. And that was a fun. I mean, yeah, it's crazy.
And then I just was reading that Scarlett Johansson is playing another like.
Scar Jo.
Miss raced like character.
And it's like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Also, Crazy Rich Asians was great.
And also, I was going to say that Sandra Oh did a thing.
Ah, fuck it.
I forgot it.
Sorry.
Oh, her parents.
That was super adorable.
It was so adorable.
Yeah. Scarlett Johansson is about to remake uh malcolm x and shit well i'll be i'm gonna go see it i'm gonna go see it because she's good at that she's gonna make some strong choices
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uh just wanted to acknowledge both the point that miles is making uh about so the ellen
degeneres kevin hart interview that happened at the end of last week so he did apologize when he was backing out of the Oscar hosting role in a tweet. But during the Ellen interview, he kept referring to the fact that he had already, even before the controversy, he had already dealt with the joke and apologized for that. And I kind of took him at his word that he had done that in the past prior
to the controversy. And that doesn't appear to be the case. And there's a really great segment
on the Don Lemon show where he addresses why he needs to apologize, like how he can actually you know make amends for his jokes in the past and
again he continues to you know kevin hart's response to that segment even was to say we all
need to learn and acknowledge that we all need to learn and you know let's try and remember that in 2019 like so again like people
are being too mean to him was
his takeaway
I've never seen somebody double down on being
problematic as hard as Kevin Hart
he's done it multiple times with the
Cowboys and Indians party just really
coming out and just doubling down on being
ignorant as fuck and also on this
homophobic thing like come on now man
we saw your tweets.
Yeah, everybody tweets bad shit.
Delete your tweets like a smart person.
But also, just apologize.
I also didn't like that Ellen DeGeneres
came out here trying to be the voice
of all gay people.
I just thought that that was annoying as fuck.
Girl, please stop.
Please stop that.
And also, shout out to Don Lemon,
who I now call Don Lemon Pepper,
which I've told y'all that
because he's woke as fuck out here we dragged him for a solid 10 years on Twitter and he finally got
his shit together and he's right Kevin Hart doesn't realize that jokes aren't just jokes
because people who laugh at these jokes also think it's okay to assault gay people which they do every
single day and they continue to do and we need to take responsibility for that if he was like
gay people are like this wonka wonka wonka that wonka. That's a joke that you can be like,
you know what, I said a thing.
He was like, I'll hit my kid if he's gay.
I mean, it's like real funny joke.
And that's the issue for me.
It's like, if you can't realize that the joke
is perpetuating hate against a group of people
and that you can't just apologize for it,
then don't host the Oscars or host anything else.
I'm not going to go see your movies too.
I mean, look, I haven't seen a Kevin Hart movie in a long time.
I'm not that worried about it.
But I do think that we can get over things that you said
as long as you show a little bit of fucking...
And it's not that hard.
It's not that hard.
Fake it! You're an actor, goddammit!
That's the thing that sucks.
Yeah.
Which is going to be harder to take out of the rotation,
Remix to Ignition or Central Intelligence?
I do love The Rock.
I smell what he's cooking.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right.
But let's move on.
We've talked enough about Kevin Hart over the past two shows.
Let's talk about the word motherfucker.
Ooh, yeah.
Just in honor of the continued outrage
over the freshman congresswoman's
calling the president a motherfucker,
I wanted to look back at something
a writer named Ian Cheeseman wrote for us
when I was back at Cracked
that reviews the best idiomatic insults
around the globe
because a lot of attention is being paid to
motherfucker as if
it's like an incredible
insult
and I've always found it
to be a little bit wanting because it's
not specific about like
whose mother the
person is fucking and
that could be almost like a
compliment like it just means you're having
sex with a woman who's had children like i love you too mama tambien right exactly like i love
i love my dad and he's a motherfucker so right yeah true that so uh we actually went through
other countries and cultures with better insults and i just wanted to run through a couple of them
for you guys and get your reactions.
So,
a few Spanish speaking cultures have suck butter from my ass.
Stop!
Oh.
I shit on your dead
and I shit in your mother.
Oh, wow.
Oh.
Yeah.
I would feel uncomfortable
saying that one.
Yeah.
The sucking butter
out of a butthole,
is that what it is?
Yeah.
Sucking butter out of
I'll suck butter
from my ass.
Oh, you suck butter out of my ass.
I got it.
As a woman, I feel like too many men would like that if I said that to them.
I'm like, sure, anytime.
That one would really backfire.
But shit in your mother, that's complicated.
Shit in your mother will cause infection for sure.
Oh, for sure.
My dick in your mother's rib cage is an Arab one.
Damn.
These are all very mother-centric.
Yeah.
At least it's specific with regard to who is sticking their dick in whose mother.
It's very specific, yeah.
I love that every region, every culture has a fuck your mom.
Right.
Put something in your mom.
I think it's because dads are too waifu.
Dads in every culture.
Everyone's like, fuck your dad.
Don't care about your fucking dad. Fuck your dad. But your you know, dads in every culture, you know. Yeah, everyone's like, fuck your dad. Right.
Don't care about your fucking dad.
Fuck your dad.
But your mother, you know.
Your mother's more likely to stick around.
Your mother's more likely to have a good relationship with your mom.
Yeah.
I'm going to go for her.
Icelandic culture has grandfather fucker, uncle fucker, and sheep fucker, which are.
They respect women.
Right.
Cool, Iceland.
Cool.
While Bulgarians say your mother sucks bears in the forest.
That sounds about right.
Yeah.
That's so good.
Your mom is brave, though.
That's so good.
I'm not just sucking bear dick.
She's just so desperate to suck a dick that she's sucking a bear dick in the forest.
Hey, look, mom, you don't have to go to the forest to suck bear dick, okay?
Just come on down to the Eagle.
You know, blah, blah, blah.
So Romanians were the number one on this dude's list with just more like shampoo my dick hair
with your saliva, like gross shit.
Brush your teeth.
My dick will soon be inspecting.
But Serbians have just like the, all right.
So they have a particularly brutal, I guess, salutation slash the worst wedding toast ever.
May God give you to search for your children with a Geiger counter.
And then may your house be alive on CNN.
What is a Geiger?
It's a radiation detector.
So this is a post-nuclear age insult, I would imagine.
And that's very Yugoslavian, I would imagine.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you never want your house to be loud on CNN.
Is there like a snappy-
Unless you live in Times Square.
True shit.
Is there a snappy-
I guess the language and translation
is probably way more slappy in their language.
Yes.
Now do it in Serbian.
Do it in Serbian.
My accent is all fucked up, so.
That's fair.
Yeah, also, I just,
the outrage on that is just so hilarious.
And I love her for not backing down,
and I love Pelosi for not backing down on it.
Just being like, I'm sorry,
that's not the language I would use,
but have you heard the president's
dirty fucking filthy mouth?
Right.
That motherfucker's a fake fucking mouth?
Right.
So, you know,
we've got some stars in this new group of members.
And it's all lumped in with them being outraged about AOC dancing.
It's like, yeah.
She's a freshman in Congress.
Like, you never see, like, Republicans are hating on her hard.
They're scared of her.
They're scared of her.
Oh, I'm sorry.
This, like, super smart, super brassy, super baby, like a babe.
Not that her looks matter,
but she's this total package of things.
Yeah, but that's the thing.
Hollywood for ugly people.
Yeah, for sure.
Well, I think that is part of their fear, right?
It's like how they're attracted to her
and they don't know how to deal with it.
Sure.
She's got that Obama je ne sais quoi.
She does.
She's smart, she's easy on the eyes,
and she's, you know, woke as fuck.
And she knows how to use Twitter
better than I think any.
Like she,
Chris Saliza,
like tweeted some
half quote from her
and she was like,
here it is in context
and just said the rest
of the thing she said.
And it was like,
took everything
that he was trying to do
out of it.
She's good.
It's going to be really
interesting to see.
Although I will say
she got,
when she was quoted as,
or someone was quoted anonymously
as saying that she was going to actively
try to remove Hakeem Jeffries,
who's one of the new members of leadership,
she attacked Politico for saying
that they used anonymous sources as news,
and everyone on the liberal side was like,
you can't do that,
and this is the only thing I'm going to say about it.
That's like, whenever there's an anonymous source about trump we're like that's
the realest thing in the entire world so it just goes to show you the news media is just like super
fucked up and everyone and everyone kind of hates it and i'm just like let's let mueller do his job
impeach the motherfucker and then we done yes yeah and then lastly as we're entering the awards
season i talk a lot of shit about the Oscars. I have long said
that I think
they should give the Oscars out
five years afterwards
and everybody,
Seth Rogen,
I guess,
tweeted the same idea
and people were like,
oh, he's stealing it from you.
It's like, no,
that's just a good idea.
He stole your idea.
Yeah,
but,
so I do think Oscars
get a lot of shit wrong,
but there was something
that someone tweeted out
from Metacritic
that is the lowest scoring Oscar Best Picture nominees that I thought is a good illustration
of the value of award season in that they kind of give some sort of critical relevance to movies
that were otherwise like maybe not appreciated at their time like ghost was a poorly reviewed movie a few good
men was a poorly reviewed movie or just like not well reviewed yeah rain man the sixth sense
and then because hayley joe osment right they gave whoopi her backup oscar for ghost because
they know they owed her that shit for the color purple so they gave her her leonardo they're like
here you go, sis.
Sorry we missed you last year.
Right.
Like Julia Roberts and Erin Brockovich.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah.
But those are movies that, I don't know,
I assumed were well-reviewed, I think,
because they got Oscar recognition,
and they're just widely and generally perceived as classics now.
Scent of a Woman and Field of Dreams
were both kind of poorly reviewed.
They don't really hold up for me, but a lot of people love them.
So those are movies that I feel like, I don't know, the Oscars did their job by being like,
these are actually good movies, even though critics weren't feeling them.
I just get upset when literally the movie that I think is like, whenever there's a movie
that's like clearly the best movie in my mind doesn't even get touched or talked about, whenever there's a movie that's clearly the best movie,
in my mind, doesn't even get touched or talked about,
then I get upset about that.
And that movie this year would be First Reformed,
starring Ethan Hawke.
Oh, yeah.
And yeah, it's an environmental movie
that also brings religion into the whole thing.
And it is just like, he's so good.
And the fact, like, what do you have to do?
You know, take your shirt off and dance at a Live Aid concert,
and then you can win all the awards,
but you can't do, like, real, like, deep, emotional acting
and get an award in this day and age.
Right.
I mean, you can if you're Daniel Day-Lewis,
and you're in a movie that nobody ever wants to see again,
but you're good.
That's true.
That's true.
Although, Black Lantern was my favorite movie,
and it got nominated and didn't win anything.
That was my other favorite movie of the year.
I mean, Spike.
Entertainment-wise. It was slow for me. Oh, really my other favorite movie of the year. I mean, Spike. It was entertainment wise.
It was slow for me.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
But, you know, I love old Spike.
Yeah.
I felt like it was like the I, Tonya of this year, like kind of entertaining and very like
stylized.
And I liked it.
It didn't, you know, it might not be the best movie, but it was like one that I really enjoyed.
Right.
I like the story a lot.
I agree with that.
Yeah.
There's no, I feel like everything's going to be boring this year because there just aren't any like cool controversial interesting
movies like where is the fish fucking where's the you know where's the things that i want to talk
about oh you haven't seen vice i didn't like vice as much as it yeah yeah and that yeah i mean that
again it was just like the big short with like with a with another monster kind of scenario but christian bill was dick cheney in that i will say right so oh he's a monster yeah he's a monster yeah
christian bill a lot of people were surprised that he is not american so yeah i was too i've
never heard him speak in his own accent yeah i'd heard it a couple years before when he accepted
some award and i was surprised then. And it seemed like
he has gotten more cockney since then.
Yeah, that's what everyone said.
He's like,
thank you so very much, everybody.
Gov?
May I have some more porridge?
Like, what are you talking about?
I feel like everyone drinks
at the Golden Globes,
so maybe at that point
he was a little sauced up.
That's a great point
because my country,
when I started drinking
and I started saying
I need more country, I don't sound that way. This is how I point because my country, when I started drinking and I started sounding more country,
I don't sound that way. This is how I normally talk.
Okay, yo, that's a really good
point. Probably. Otherwise,
Christian Bale has made it his whole career without ever
talking to us. Very true.
I don't remember. I never knew he was
British. I forgot he was.
I mean, I just think of him always as the boy
from Newsies, so I don't know if he's British,
but boy, can he sing and dance.
Well, guys, this has been and dance. Mm-hmm.
Well, guys, this has been so much fun having you here.
Casey, where can people find you?
You can find me on Twitter, Casey L-E-Y, L-I, and on Instagram, Casey W-L-E-Y.
I'm sorry, that was backwards.
Casey L-I on Instagram.
Just go there.
That's all that matters.
Right.
And then I'll be in San Francisco
coming up this week
I'll be at the Punchline
in San Francisco
Tuesday through Thursday
and I will be
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I'm opening for Nico Santos
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Casey is an amazing stand up
go check him out
is there a tweet
you've been enjoying?
I forgot that I was going to do that.
And yeah, sure, I'll just do one of my own.
Oh, yeah, this one's funny to me.
Ugly people hate Nancy Pelosi because she's hot.
I'll just do that one.
I love Nancy Pelosi right now.
Hell yeah.
Lacey.
Ooh, okay.
Thank you so much for being a wonderful guest co-host.
So happy to be here.
Where can people find you?
Okay.
Y'all know y'all can find me on the interwebs.
Instagram at divalaci, D-I-V-A-L-A-C-I.
Also Twitter at divalaci, D-I-V-A-L-A-C-I.
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Y'all know where to find me.
And then my favorite tweet right now
this is actually my tweet
but it's that
if we keep ousting all these
male
creep musicians, Jackis will
be the king of R&B
at this rate
he's going to be our king
we should all just accept it
you can find me on Twitter Jack underscore O'Brien He's going to be our king. We should all just accept it.
You can find me on Twitter,
Jack underscore O'Brien.
A couple tweets I've been liking.
Matt Binder tweeted,
so Kaya Jones tweeted,
how would you feel about your child using this bathroom
and took a video of a gender neutral restroom
that's like zoom in, zoom out, zoom in.
It was like real erratic camera work
and Matt Binder tweeted,
I'd tell them to watch out for the weirdo filming the bathroom outside.
Joe Randazzo tweeted that Americans look set that their $11 million earned
might be taxed at a higher rate.
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