The Daily Zeitgeist - Susan Collins: Feminist ICON, Hooters Going Extinct 10.8.18

Episode Date: October 8, 2018

In episode 247, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian, writer, and You're Making It Worse podcast co-host H. Alan Scott to discuss Russian bots entering the culture wars, Krispy Kreme coming to Irelan...d, the film A Star Is Born with super producer Anna Hossnieh, Susan Collins decision to vote for Kavanaugh or not, Hooter's starting to lose steam, bloidwatch, and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. Weaponizing the haters: The Last Jedi and the strategic politicization of pop culture through social media manipulation.2. BRETT KAVANAUGH HAS HUGE OPPOSITION IN THE U.S.—BUT RUSSIAN STATE PROPAGANDA LOVES DONALD TRUMP'S NOMINEE3. Krispy Kreme closing overnight 'Drive-Thru' after residents share extraordinary footage of 'honking cars'4. I Was Brett Kavanaugh’s College Roommate5. Brett Kavanaugh: Susan Collins announces decision as hundreds protest – live updates6. Hooters is closing restaurants. Is its offensive uniform to blame?7. WATCH: Sixtoo - "Boxcutter Emporium Pt. 3" Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:18 Welcome to The Daily Zeitgeist with Miles and Jack OB. We check in with Lloyd Watch and the Mangazi. Hey, Sublime. That is courtesy of James Rainey on Twitter, Marine Against Hate. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Well, allow me to one-up your Sublime with, Hey now, you're a Zyce star. Get your miles on.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Go gray. Hey now, you're O'Brien star. Get your jack on. Get paid. Hey. Now, all that glitter actually is gold. I don't know if you know that, but only shooting stars break the mold. Thank you to Jake Rumski at J. Rumski for that one.
Starting point is 00:03:04 I didn't recognize that you didn't say the name of the band afterwards. No, you know, some people don't know that song, I realize. Yeah, yeah. It's an obscure hit. Deep cut. Well, we're thrilled to be joined by a comedian, a writer, podcast host of You're Making It Worse, and Golden Girls the podcast, and somebody who Oprah has said his name, we're thrilled to be joined by H. Allen Scott.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Yes, hi. That is the coolest thing I think we've ever said about somebody. Really? That they're a podcaster? Yeah, that they're a podcaster. I was born to the Oprah thing. He said your name. How'd that happen?
Starting point is 00:03:41 How'd that go down? A couple years ago, I was doing jokes in New York about Shirley MacLaine and a Harpo. Yeah, I know. I love it already. If you couldn't tell, this is a gay homosexual moment. And I got a Harpo producer, this is when it was still on the air,
Starting point is 00:03:56 saw my set and then a year later Shirley MacLaine was coming on the 25th season, the final season of the Oprah show, to promote some book and they thought of me and they wanted to fly me out to be a part of it. And they changed everything in the episode
Starting point is 00:04:11 because then Elizabeth Taylor was dying that week. So they didn't want to be too funny. So they just had me ask, sure, let me claim a question. But then they let me open for the show, for Oprah, for the audience. Like you were the warm up? Yeah, totally my demo.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Like gay men and middle-aged women. It was perfect. And I was doing all up? Yeah. Okay. Totally my demo. Like gay men and middle aged women. Right, right, right. It was like perfect. And I was doing all these jokes and I got them saying my name. And so when I stood up to say my line, the whole audience went H. And then Shirley MacLaine said, what's H? And then I said H. Allen Scott. And then Oprah said H. Allen Scott.
Starting point is 00:04:40 H. Allen Scott. Oprah said my name. Do you have that just a sound bite? Yes, I do. Okay, cool. I would do that too. But I can't. I uploaded it once and I got in a lot of trouble. Oprah said my name. Do you have that just a sound bite? Yes, I do. Okay, cool. I would do that too. But I can't. I uploaded it once and I got in a lot of trouble.
Starting point is 00:04:49 So I can't do that. Yeah, don't fuck with Harpo. Do not fuck with Harpo. Oprah's voice is powerful and magical. You cannot just use it to your own devices. And every talk show I've ever been on, Oprah's been involved in. Oh, wow. So like I did Rachel Ray once and Oprah produced that.
Starting point is 00:05:03 And then last year I did Ellen's like coming out anniversary. And they had like a montage of people talking about their own coming out stories and how Ellen impacted them. And Oprah was on that episode. I was on. Oprah's been in every talk. Damn, what's next for you? I don't know. Oprah, hopefully.
Starting point is 00:05:17 I know. Most people don't realize that Oprah is the executive producer of the Daily Zyko. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's amazing. She's like one of the more silent showrunners. Shout out to you, Oprah. Only thing she's silent about. All right, we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment, but first we're gonna tell our listeners what we'll be talking about today. There is a new report out that Russian bots have been in the
Starting point is 00:05:40 culture wars, not just on the Trump and political side, but on The Last Jedi. We'll get into it. But The Last Jedi has been a battleground for Russian bots for a long time. Ireland just doesn't know what to do with itself because they just got their first Krispy Kreme store. That's fair. We're going to talk A Star is Born. We are currently, Miles and I are sharing the studio with 50% of the people in the studio
Starting point is 00:06:04 have seen A Star is Born. So we're going to ask you guys for thoughts. There's no spoilers. I want to know if she was actually born. We're going to look at just last week in the Kavanaugh hearing, just in summation, it was a weird week. We're going to talk about restaurants. Hooters is dying slowly. But first, H. Allen,
Starting point is 00:06:27 what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Oh, God. It usually involves either the word naked or like a misspelled word. Okay. That's often, like, oftentimes, you know, I want to see everybody naked.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Sure. Yeah. And so, like, if I see someone, I'm like, oh, I wonder if they have, like, a naked picture out there. I'll just put naked behind their name. And it's really fun to do and I'm like, oh, I wonder if they have like a naked picture out there. I'll just put naked behind their name. And it's really fun to do it with like old people. Like historical.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Yeah. Yeah. And that hasn't come up yet. I'll look for that. But yeah, I put naked a lot. And then also just a shit ton of misspelled words. I once looked at my search history and it was just like the saddest words ever. I should know how to spell like access.
Starting point is 00:07:06 And yet I put that in there. But see, you're thinking of it too. So it's not- Two Cs, two Ss? Yeah, see, but it's hard. But it is, yeah. Do you have words that you always fuck up in your head? Like even to this day, you're like-
Starting point is 00:07:17 Yeah. There's like- Coach. When I remember in third or fourth grade, it was Miss Stevens. I misspelled the word couch as coach, and the whole class made fun of me. Oh, really? To this day, those two words are such a trigger for me.
Starting point is 00:07:34 It just got frozen in your mind as a moment of trauma. I will always be like, it's coach, couch, you. I always fuck up spelling separate. I always do ER, because I think in the back of my I always do E-R, because I think in the back of my head, I think of offspring, and think you got to keep them separated. Perrated.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Really straight. Rather than separate. You guys are really straight. Yeah, I'm just from the valley, though. Offspring was like the soundtrack. Offspring, bro. You don't fuck with offspring? I don't know anything about offspring. Yeah, that's like one word I always fuck up.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Jack, you're a perfect speller. No, I'm a terrible speller. Oh, really? I fully, you know anything about spring. Yeah, that's like one word I always fuck up. Jack, you're a perfect speller. No, I'm a terrible speller. Oh, really? And I fully, you know this, Miles. We put the doc together, we put the doc together like on Google Docs. Miles and I are on it and I will just write something down knowing I'm misspelling the word and then just see the Miles Gray cursor hovering over the misspelled word. And I'm like, dude, okay, I'll get to it.
Starting point is 00:08:24 That's a lot of stress. I know, it is. I'm just helping you. It's more for my own shit. I'm like, dude, okay, I'll get to it. That's a lot of stress. I know, it is. I'm just helping you. It's more for my own shit. I'm like, don't look at me. It's not a judgment thing. It's like a mess. I write like that too.
Starting point is 00:08:31 I'll write the word however I think it's spelled and then I'll come back to it. For sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, I don't want someone looking over my shoulder. Yeah, yeah. Wait, was there a word specific, like separate for me is one,
Starting point is 00:08:41 couch clearly for H. Allen? It's a lot of them. Couch or coach. I can't think of any in particular. Jack, spell 10. Miles. One zero, okay? H. Allen.
Starting point is 00:08:58 What is something that's overrated? Overrated. I mean, live concerts, live music. I hate live music. Wow. You mentioned this. What do you mean you hate live? I just hate Live music I hate live music Wow You mentioned this What do you mean you hate I just hate the whole experience
Starting point is 00:09:09 Of live music I think it's a waste of time I think you can get The perfect experience With your earphones Walking around In a beautiful setting Wow
Starting point is 00:09:15 Or at home You know I just think live concerts Are the biggest waste of time Now If you could alter What a live concert was like Would you be more inclined to go
Starting point is 00:09:24 Like if it was just you and three people? I don't want to be around thousands of people. So less people. What if it was an intimate show? Yeah. That's even weird. Have you ever had someone sing for you in a small setting alone? Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:09:34 It's awkward. I hate that shit. It's boring. And I can't look them in the eye. We do that every day. I know. That's why I never- At the beginning of the show.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Yeah, but we only look down though, Jack. You know how we have our shame when we do that. I just think concerts are bullshit. Like, I mean, just the people, the band playing, the band. I mean, I get the whole, like, I understand as a stand-up the need for like an audience. But even then, half the time, I don't want the fucking audience there. Like, I would love if people were just live streaming it and just watching me talk in my living room or something. I just, I mean, but I am also very much an antisocial person.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Like, I'm a talkative social person, but I'm antisocial. You're a little shut-in kind of. I don't want to be doing anything. Right. Yeah. What's your favorite musical act or performer? Oh, that's hard. I guess, I mean, I guess Robin?
Starting point is 00:10:15 But we would never find you at a Robin show? Well, I went to a Robin concert when she first sort of, like the last album was really big. It was at Radio City. I went with LA Glazer past guest on this podcast and his sister Alana and we were there
Starting point is 00:10:30 in the like up the balcony at Radio City and it was one of the coolest moments in that like they built like stairs from the stage
Starting point is 00:10:37 up to the first mezzanine and she ran up in those platform shoes and like danced for the mezzanine up there now that was cool see that was really cool.
Starting point is 00:10:46 But I could have done without everybody else. Right. And I could have done without the noise. I don't like noise. I don't like sudden loud noises. I don't like dumb young people. I don't like a lot of white people. I'm white.
Starting point is 00:10:59 But I don't like a lot of white people. You'd like to be the only white person in a room. Yeah. I mean, which, and even in my relationship. I mean, he's Mexican. In many situations, I am the only white person in a room. Yeah, I mean, which, and even in my relationship, I mean, he's Mexican. In many situations, I am the only white person, and that is good. That is. Yeah. I concur.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Can't stand the fucking people. Love some people's music. I will show myself out. Robin's performance of Dancing on My Own is, I think, I still hold, controversial statement, the greatest SNL live performance ever. Oh, it's pretty great. It's so amazing.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Pretty great. I always say it was Puff Daddy, Come With Me, when the Godzilla soundtrack came out in 1997. Da-na-na, da-na-na. Oh, my God. Close your eyes. You're just no surprise. Come with me.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Strengthen up your straight credentials even more. Hell yeah, dude. It was from Godzilla? It was from the Godzilla soundtrack. Puff Daddy's sick. Led Zeppelin's sick. I think like, what's that band,
Starting point is 00:11:50 that Armageddon song, Aerosmith? Yes. Yeah, that I wanna close my eyes. Wait, no, don't close your eyes. I literally just sang I wanna close my eyes.
Starting point is 00:11:58 That's probably my reaction to the live show. I wanna close my eyes and go home. And I wanna miss everything. What is something you think is underrated? You know, I think politics. Because I find like in the current climate we're in, a lot of people are using sort of like, of course, they're disgusted by the politics and the way it is right now, which I think is, you know, people are okay with feeling that. But I also think they're taking their passion too far in dictating how they're approaching politics.
Starting point is 00:12:28 And it's causing, like, global PTSD. And it's like, you sit down, think with a little bit of nuance about what's going on. Look at history. Like, let's calm the fuck down. Does that fall under underrated? Yeah. Can you give a specific example of like somebody who is taking their response to politics in a weird direction? Yeah. Well, the best guest, Elie Glaser.
Starting point is 00:12:53 No, he's not. He's not. He's a great person. He'll be the first to say. He's not like politically aware all the time and he's not as invested in the news as I am. And he sometimes, you know, just he's like, it's insane. It's crazy what's going on. This has never happened before. I don't understand what's
Starting point is 00:13:07 going on. And it's like, slavery. Like, there was a time in this country where the country was torn. Like, we've had periods in our history where there were really scary things going on. And yeah, people thought it was insane. But like, we used democratic methods and
Starting point is 00:13:23 sometimes war to get beyond whatever problem there was at the time like calm the fuck down do you really think Abraham Lincoln every single day in the White House was like this is insane what's going on I mean when you look at how rapidly he aged I believe that maybe he was
Starting point is 00:13:39 but I think that was mostly his wife she was insane too yeah and that lays waste to the theory that Kanye West put posited that he may have been black. Right. But that Abraham Lincoln. Abraham Lincoln. A lot of people think that. They also think he might have been gay.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Right. Which is ridiculous. He was not gay. Not with that style. And finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true, you know to be false? Yeah, that concerts are good. No.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Just stick on that. My biggest myth is that a lot of times I find, and this is the whole gay straight thing, so I was thinking about it. I had a different one, but I'm gonna go with what I said, because you guys are so straight. Yes. I find straight dudes in the current climate we're in about sort of like acceptance and
Starting point is 00:14:27 like different sexualities and people coming out as pansexual and gender non-binary and all everything that straight dudes of all classes, you know, white, black, Hispanic, everything, they are going out of their way to be like very accepting of everybody and being like liberal and talking about how like straight dudes say they're queer or that they're trying to co-opt a narrative, I think, in a way that is ridiculous when it's like, it's okay for you just to be straight and you don't have to treat me or women or anybody in like a different way just because you feel guilty or whatever. It's like, it's a myth. You can actually just be a straight dude and that's okay.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Just be a straight dude that isn't like a dickhead and that's accepting and doesn't treat other people differently just because they're different from you. Because the world is not all straight dudes. So like, chill the fuck out and don't think you have to talk about RuPaul's Drag Race with me just because I'm gay.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Or talk about random shit. Like, I also like to, I mean, I don't understand the Godzilla reference you were talking about earlier, but I understand, you know, Led Zeppelin. Because when I was a kid, I used to like put my Bette Midler CDs in Led Zeppelin covers so that people wouldn't know I was gay. And so I know Led Zeppelin. You know the album covers for sure. That's funny. I was gay. And so I know Led Zeppelin. Yeah. You know the album covers for sure. Uh-huh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:45 That's funny. It's the same thing like too being black, like when people are like, yeah, man, like I fuck with this rap album or something like that. I would have voted for Obama a third time. Yeah. Like that kind of shit. The overcompensating of like, yo, it's chill. My interests aren't limited to hip hop, basketball and like drug references or whatever.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Like I fuck with politics. We can talk about video games, whatever, anything. But yeah, I talk about Jack in the box, which is an incredible establishment. You've met straight men who are like putting on an air that they might be more gender. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:13 There's so many dudes right now. Like one time I kissed a guy. Not even that. Not even that. There are so many because they, they've never had any same sex interaction in a sexual capacity whatsoever. And I, I applaud them having the openness to be able to talk about the possibility of sort of, you know, the fluidity of sexuality.
Starting point is 00:16:33 That's good. But you don't have – and it happens in mainly urban areas. A lot of times if I'll do a college show or something, like young straight men will come up to me and be like, young straight men will come up to me and be like, yeah, I'm queer. And I, I identify as queer because I don't think that sexuality needs a, a label.
Starting point is 00:16:51 And it's like, have you touched a dick? Right. You sucked a dick. You into dick. Have you, are you into dick? Have you took a dick?
Starting point is 00:16:58 If you haven't answered any of those questions, I don't feel like you can call yourself queer. Got you. That might be controversial. Right, but I guess from the perspective you're saying is it comes off to you as somewhat overcompensating for some kind of... It's disingenuous, yes.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Disingenuous, right. You don't have to... I mean, it's okay for you to think that, but you understand that I've actually taken a dick. Right. And so I can say these things, and I don't need you to say these things to make me like you any better. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Or to accept you or to whatever. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. But it's the same thing I think. Yeah. Because we live in an era where there are people who feel straight white man is like a slur.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Yeah. So then they're having to overcome that. That's the biggest insult there is. Yeah. Wasn't that like a Fox News story? It's very violent. Well, I also have like straight friends who, you know, they'll treat gay male friends differently than they will straight male friends. Even in terms of just like how they communicate by text and stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Like the jokes they say and the things. And like it's shitty because it's like I like a dumb dick joke just as much as the next dude. I like a stupid joke just as much as the next dude. You can include me in this just because I'm your one gay friend doesn't mean I have to be excluded from that sure sure yeah makes sense hell yeah all right let's talk about other cultural things the culture war in particular so this is a story that was sort of in my peripheral vision the whole like controversy over the last Jedi that was taking place like as that movie came out and i thought it was i wasn't like a huge fan of it but the response online seemed to be
Starting point is 00:18:33 just all-out war from men's rights activists and it seemed like it was the most controversial movie that's ever been released and somebody did a study where they looked at the tweets that the people who quote at Rian Johnson, the director, and expressing dissatisfaction. And more than half of them were bots, like troll sock puppets or political activists. And Russian bots were getting involved in Russian activists. And, you know. So there's covert culture war shit going on in places that you would think are too stupid for that sort of thing. Right, right, right. I think it kind of makes sense. It does.
Starting point is 00:19:16 It just seems like such a waste of their resources. But I guess it's not. I guess when the endgame is to cause as much chaos and we're a country where all of our deficiencies are so transparent, like whether it's like misogyny, white supremacy and all these other issues that it's like, oh, yeah, we'll hop in on the NFL thing. Because that was another thing, too, that there was Russian activity around the like kneeling. I don't think it really has anything to do with the actual thing they're hopping on. I think it has everything to do with these people who are doing this are like hackers. on. I think it has everything to do with these people who are doing this are like hackers. They're like computer experts and they understand
Starting point is 00:19:45 the internet and how the internet works in a way that they're paid to know and to understand and these are trending things. People talking about the Jedi shit becomes a trending thing on Twitter so of course then Russian bots are going to do it to like create havoc and create all these articles and these clicks and all these things. But how come they're not jumping
Starting point is 00:20:01 in on the mayo chup debate? That was trending. You know what I mean? Right. I guess it has some sort of societal political thing. It has to be some sort of cultural war thing that they can put into it. They're like, we can only go so far. Yeah, they're like, whoa, we're not talking about that. That shit is-
Starting point is 00:20:14 We're not going to talk about that. That's a third rail. But yeah, and then you also see this too with Kavanaugh's nomination also, that in just the last 48 hours, they were saying there was an uptick in like accounts they identified as being russian troll accounts or whatever using like more confirmed kavanaugh hashtags and things like that so right yeah you know they do whatever they can and like rt and sputnik also like went all out to promote the boy brett as much as possible so it's right it's the whole Kavanaugh thing and they're not creating the you know Kavanaugh backlash or the the last Jedi there's ample fine yeah they're
Starting point is 00:20:52 just they're taking it to you and then the sad thing is that media outlets especially like a lot of these blogs and these smaller websites will see the activity and because of SEO and because they want to get those clicks and the traction they'll pick these things up and then write articles about it just pushes it even farther right it's like, we're pushing this fake shit that Russians are pushing up just to create more drama. Yeah, exactly. Just get the message loud enough that CNN notices on there like, what's trending today? Anyways, another thing that's trending today is we're just as bad as CNN. So Ireland just got Krispy Kremes.
Starting point is 00:21:26 I think this is bad for my brethren because they do not know how to act. There is a video of- They don't know how to act. They don't know how- To be fair, this is how everyone acts when a Krispy Kreme opens up when you never had it. So there's one open in a town in Ireland and there's video of this parking lot where it looks like
Starting point is 00:21:48 Miles, you were saying it looks like a ferry. Like if you've ever taken a ferry that takes cars or whatever and like in the ring. Yeah, exactly. Right. Exactly. But just that stack of cars waiting to just get on a gigantic like transport ferry. It looked like that kind
Starting point is 00:22:04 of congestion and also just honking and shit. And it's at midnight. They're all honking at each other. They're like, I fucking need it now. Krispy Kremes, they have those signs in the Midwest. I don't know if they still do, but I'm from Missouri. And whenever they would have fresh donuts, they would always put the blinking sign,
Starting point is 00:22:20 fresh, hot, now. And you would know to go there for that. Yeah, because I remember, you know, Krispy Kreme only came to LA, like, I think in the late 90s or 2000, and the first one opened, like, in Van Nuys, and I remember fucking, it was an event. Yeah. Like, every news.
Starting point is 00:22:35 They're not that good. I know, because they just got the good glazed donut. That's, like, their one thing, and it's not, like, it's great. It's a great donut. It's a donut. But it's, you know, how transformative can a donut be? again i'm speaking for myself the simpsons donut at universal studios or a 7-eleven when they were doing 7-eleven for a minute oh yeah i think they still have it i think they do yeah and i always buy it is it glazed plus iced or just iced what do you mean no it just has
Starting point is 00:23:00 the pink or the pink stuff but they have other types. Me and my boyfriend literally got season passes to Universe Studios almost primarily for the donuts. For that donut? Just to go to the Simpsons. The donuts and the Harry Potter shit. Yeah, that's funny. Well, because you buy a day, you get a year. Yeah, exactly. And then you're like, let's click it.
Starting point is 00:23:14 It's only like 20 bucks more than the ticket. We go back all the time just for the donut. I did the same thing with Her Majesty, my girlfriend. And we went first just to go to the Harry Potter thing. And then we ended up being like, I think the Whoville Christmas thing thing opened up let's just pop in for 20 minutes like we just did okay i'm like better get that churro it's the best thing ever yeah it is an interesting way though like to engage with it as a local yeah and just be like i'm going there for 45 minutes yeah right and that's it you can take the subway there you know what i mean go to moe's get a flaming mom
Starting point is 00:23:42 yep oh i mean which is just dry ice and a fucking orange soda. So good. So I've never had a fresh Krispy Kreme donut. Oh, ever? Yeah, never. I view it the same way I view heroin, that I just have never tried it because I don't think I deal well with it. I think I like it too much. Well, you also seem like you're wearing athleisure right now.
Starting point is 00:24:01 I know. I rarely wear athleisure, but I do. That probably is why. Yeah. That probably is why. Yeah. That probably is why. I mean, the reason the first one's good is because it's warm, and the glaze hasn't fully turned rock hard around it. It's an experience. My mom made a bread pudding with Krispy Kremes once.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Oh, shit. It was like, I mean, we're an obese family. I love that shit, though. Yeah, but my mom was a baker, and she did that one. Oh, wow. That sounds incredible. Creamy bread. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:29 I know what I'm doing. Talk about death. Yeah. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who, on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate.
Starting point is 00:24:55 My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks Everywhere starting September 25th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In a galaxy far, far away.
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Starting point is 00:28:36 who have seen A Star is Born. Super producer Anna Hosnier is joining us. H. Allen, you saw it a while ago, right? Yeah, well not like a week ago. I mean, that's an eternity and a star is more in time. So, let's hear it. What did you guys think?
Starting point is 00:28:52 Well, I'm going to do the entire interview in Bradley Cooper. Okay, I can't do it. Does he do a voice? He does. He does a voice. Like an Adam Sandler voice? I just wanted to see you smile. I just wanted to take another location. You kind of sounded like Little Nicky.
Starting point is 00:29:10 You do sound like Little Nicky. Bradley Cooper is such a joke. Is he? Literally, he is, like I said to you guys before, but I'll say it again. He's that straight dude, and I do believe he's straight, that straight dude who was popular in musical theater in high school.
Starting point is 00:29:27 And he loved the attention he got from all the gay dudes because he was the one straight dude. And he still thinks he's that popular. He's that guy. So he's riding that wave. He's riding that wave. To the end. Wait, but what about the movie? His voice?
Starting point is 00:29:44 Okay, so I believe he's doing Sam Elliott's voice, who also plays his brother in the movie. So it's kind of a weird thing where you're like, okay, there's already two of you in the movie. His siblings can have different voices. They can also be 30 years apart? Yes, it's complicated. I think he's meant to be playing older.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Oh, Bradley Cooper? I think so. Did they say his age? I feel like Lady Gaga's like 30 and Bradley's like late 40s. Yeah. There's a vibe there. And his brother's 80?
Starting point is 00:30:11 Which is the original too. I mean the original, or not the original, but the Barbra Streisand one is like that as well. Yeah. Where she's much younger than Kris Kristofferson,
Starting point is 00:30:17 even though I don't think she was. Oh, interesting. Oh, Barbara. Yeah. How is Lady Gaga? I think she's great. I think, I mean, like, basically it's the Lady Gaga show, and Bradley Cooper is unfortunately a part of it.
Starting point is 00:30:32 And it's, I mean, she shines. She's amazing. She's a real talent, whereas Bradley Cooper, like, midway through the film, he's interesting in the beginning. I think the beginning part is really interesting. But then midway through the film, it becomes this weird moment of Bradley Cooper. Right. You know?
Starting point is 00:30:49 That's an appropriate review. Was his performance good? If you could divorce yourself from the fact that you think he's whack and shit. No, I don't think he was good. Oh, so you don't like his performance either. I think it's like that weird voice and he's trying to do this thing come off in a certain way when it's like, just be fucking Bradley Cooper, dude. You don't need to do any of this. Well, from what we know,
Starting point is 00:31:08 he's Bradley Cooper talking like Sam Elliott pretending to be Eddie Vedder. Right, yeah. From all the interviews that we've heard from where he was pulling from. I think his performance was fine, but Lady Gaga stole the show. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:20 And I think they do a really good job of portraying how the music industry will completely wash your life away and make you a different person. That portrayal is really good. I was like, oh, my God. And she's a great person to do that. Yeah. Because it is a weird thing because she used to play the piano and got no fame.
Starting point is 00:31:39 There's all these videos of her online trying to be herself. Tori Amos thing? In the scene from the trailer which is the only reason i'm gonna go see yeah that part that part yeah i can't even do that how was that when you saw it did that was it any different was the film just like okay that happened the build-up to that moment like i don't think there was not a single thought in my head there was there was nothing like there was no one around me yeah like I was completely
Starting point is 00:32:10 just on the screen and then actually this pulled me out because a guy got up to go to the bathroom right before that scene was happening and my blood boiled like I was like are you fucking out of your mind do you not know the impact of this moment piss yourself yeah I was like gonna scream at him but I was like I did that during Dreamgirls Are you fucking out of your mind? Do you not know the impact of this moment?
Starting point is 00:32:26 Piss yourself. I was going to scream at him. I did that during Dreamgirls. Oh, wow. Yeah. I actually pissed myself. Just straight up in the seat? I pissed myself a little bit during the show because I was so ready and I had to wait for the scene. I was just like, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:32:40 And then I felt it coming that I literally got the scene I wanted the scene I wanted, and it started to come, and I ran. Wow. Yeah. I would have done the same for that moment in Star is Born. And so it was beautiful. So I guess in the end, will you recommend people to see it? Of course. You have to see this.
Starting point is 00:32:56 You have to. It's like the— Hey, Talon, I felt like we were—it was almost—Bradley Cooper's wackness was too much to overcome. I mean, Bradley Cooper is wack, but it's like the Super Bowl halftime show, you know what I mean? Even if you don't like Lady Gaga, she's such a spectacle that you have to see it. You have to see her. She's one of those, and those type of
Starting point is 00:33:14 performers don't come along that often, like where you just gotta see what they're gonna do. Yeah. Okay. And you just also gotta see what Bradley's up to. Yeah, it's a fun it's a fun shit show to watch and shit on bradley like i do love hate watching shit a lot so right i would see it just to hit on bradley a part of me was like is bradley cooper gonna become an alcoholic
Starting point is 00:33:34 after this film i don't know why i was like i don't know you would probably do it as like a method yeah people keep talking about his alcoholism is it like that movie flight where you think it's gonna be about somebody doing an amazing thing with a plane and then it's just a gritty, sad drama? His depiction of alcoholism. His side of the story is, yeah, that's kind of exactly what it is. I'm waiting for Bradley Cooper to be like, my next role is, I'm playing Caitlyn Jenner. And he's going to dive in so deep to it. Self-directed. to it self-directed
Starting point is 00:34:06 I directed it on my iPhone yes, hi rec go see it, cry yes, you will cry a lot Lady Gaga will make you cry every five minutes Brad directed it big Brad
Starting point is 00:34:22 and he did a good enough job that it made you cry? Dave Chappelle's in it for five minutes makes one joke. I also don't think Bradley actually directed it. Oh, really? I think he's one of those actor directors. Oh, ghost directing? Yeah, that had a lot of assistant directors with him actually shaped. Because the production has legit producers on it.
Starting point is 00:34:42 So I have a feeling this dude was coddled to the point of like maybe you should make the camera go like this just an idea right i'm drunk the cinematography is really well done yes right yeah like when they have access they had in the film to all these venues and shit so when they're actually when he's like performing that's actually probably one of the greatest parts of the film is when they're both performing like you feel like you're like on their shoulder watching it was like at Coachella right Coachella I think I felt for one second that they were at the Hollywood Bowl but I don't
Starting point is 00:35:12 know I couldn't really tell like it's really cool that I felt like aesthetically was done really well like you felt like you were there and you were like breathing like you were the rocks honestly I was the star that was born did you ever see the rose I have not that is one of the best concert films like which one You were the rockst. Honestly, I was the star that was born. Did you ever see The Rose? The star was born in your heart.
Starting point is 00:35:27 That is one of the best concert films. Wait, which one? The Bette Midler's The Rose. It was before she became sort of the Bette Midler we know today. She was basically playing Janis Joplin. And the concert footage in it, Mark Rydell directed it. The concert footage in it is incredible. It's so good.
Starting point is 00:35:45 I have a good story about bett midler my uh former boss was uh sarah jessica parker's stand-in for many years they look exactly the same and she was the stand-in on hocus pocus and bett midler any time her husband who was like on set spoke to any woman bett midler would make that woman's life hell. Oh, yes. I love it. She'd just be like, you bitch. And then apparently when she turned around to be like, I put a spell on you,
Starting point is 00:36:11 she turned and looked exactly at my former boss, pointed directly at her and said, I put a spell on you. And the boss was like, okay, yeah. Just because she saw her very casually speaking to her husband, I guess just in passing.
Starting point is 00:36:24 And then her hair fell out shortly after. Yeah, and her career was over. Like the crash. And she was only allowed to just be my boss. Of what? She ran the LA Jewish Film Festival. Okay, I thought at that point you were like, I'm working on a film that's going to be in that.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Oh, really? I thought her role was so big as Sarah Jessica Parker's stand-in that she too needed an assistant or something. And here's my assistant. I'm the assistant to the assistant to the assistant of Sarah Jessica Parker's stand-in. Well, it seems like you have to see this movie if you want to know what other people are going to be thinking and talking about for the next couple months. Or just see Lady Gaga probably get an Oscar nomination. Also, The Shallows available on iTunes.
Starting point is 00:37:05 $1.29. Purchase that shit. Sing it all day, every day on Twitter. Streaming. It's streaming as well. You can do it on Spotify. I thought you were talking about the Blake Lively movie about the shark. That's The Shallows.
Starting point is 00:37:16 How dare you bring that up? What did you say? I remember that. The Shallows, the name of the song. Use it on your Instagram. You know, when you go live. Connect with your Spotify so you can flex on your IG posts. Oh, dang.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Yeah. All right. Well, thank you guys for that glimpse into. And Super Producer Anna Hosnier will be doing that for the rest of this episode. Yeah. So briefly, we just wanted to sit back and reflect on the week that was of the Kavanaugh hearing. What a non-roller coaster ride it was. It was just there was an FBI investigation that revealed nothing.
Starting point is 00:37:56 And didn't even talk to half the people making accusations. It was a quote unquote investigation. It was a background check. And I think that's another misnomer too that people use that even clouds our perception of what happened. The Republicans said, talk to these four people and that's fucking it.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Right. And you can only talk about these things. So they talked to a total of 10, but failed to interview people who said that they were contacting the FBI with evidence that he was lying under oath. People who one woman who went to a house party with Renata from the Renata Alumni Club and made up word that and was told by another woman there not to go upstairs where the bedrooms are and where Brit was hanging out because it could be dangerous. People who said that like boofing and devil's triangle were most certainly sexual terms.
Starting point is 00:38:51 And people who drank with him and said he was like known to black out all the time. Like all these things that would prove that he lied under oath, they just kind of didn't even touch on, which again, these all seem like, okay, what are we prosecuting a guy's high school behavior? But they're important when it comes to what he was like as a teenager. And that's what this entire issue is about. And also what he's like as a person. I mean, we thought we thought Bill Cosby was a nice dude for years. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:23 All that shit happened. So like it's like your personal life in a lifetime appointment in a situation like this does matter. And Republican Neil Gorsuch was able to get through and no woman came out saying that he assaulted her. You know, like, I mean, it's not like this is a partisan thing. This is literally, like, what type of temperament do you have to be a judge? And are you capable of doing it and is there something that possibly could impact your decisions or your your job right yeah like if you were a juror on a case that involved republicans and democrats like you could get out of jury duty
Starting point is 00:39:58 by like telling people that what happened to brett kavanaugh happened to you or like acting like Brett Kavanaugh, just like acting like you had like a blood oath sworn against one side. Yeah, it seemed like he he came out. But anyways, the Republicans kind of played it better, or at least Republican voters and Republican senators kind of the way the story ended up playing out is the Democrats went all in on this FBI investigation. And then when Flake said, yes, let's do an FBI investigation, the Democrats were like, good, OK, we got what we wanted. But it was like they didn't get anything.
Starting point is 00:40:37 There was they failed to take into account that saying that they were going to do an FBI investigation. They got some papers that said FBI investigation. Right. And they said, you have 60 minutes to read these. There's one copy. Now, fuck off. Okay, can we vote?
Starting point is 00:40:48 So it was just, you know, they steamrolled it through like we thought they would. And I don't think, I know for a moment the week before when Jeff Flake came out and was like, look, I'll vote to get him out of committee, but we have to have an investigation or I'm going to be of no. There was a, for a moment, you're like, oh, maybe.
Starting point is 00:41:06 But then you realize that Chuck Grassley and Mitch McConnell, they're going to do everything they can to make sure that nothing resembling the truth will emerge around this person's nomination. Yeah, right. I mean, it still comes down to the fact that there is somebody who, literally everybody who witnessed her testimony claims was credible, except for, well, Trump at the time said that she was credible. But then after a week of watching Fox News decided to attack her publicly and then Lindsey Graham.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Those are the only two people who seem to question her credibility. She said with 100 percent certainty that she was sexually assaulted by Brett Kavanaugh. Which, I mean, she's – this is her field of study. Like victims of sexual assault. Psychologists. People know that, yeah, details are murky in the surrounding area
Starting point is 00:41:52 of a sexual assault, but certain details of the actual sexual assault are part of what triggers the person in the future to remember those details. It's part of, you remember the laugh,
Starting point is 00:42:03 which she talks about. Those type of things then haunt you for years. Even, I mean, I had cancer a couple years ago and there was, at my chemo center, there was this orange soap,
Starting point is 00:42:12 this dial orange soap that I never thought about and I had to wash my hands all the fucking time and I never thought about it at the time, but now I can't even be, the smell of that orange soap
Starting point is 00:42:22 is like so triggering for me and it sends me into a depression. And it's true. These things. And that's nothing compared to what she suffered. I mean, it's, yeah. Yeah, just the way they treated that and not even acknowledging that that's a, you know, the whole thing was just very, it was a terrible situation. And then we get to finding out, you know, Lisa Murkowski voted no.
Starting point is 00:42:42 So we're like, oh, okay, that changes the math a little bit, which put more pressure on Susan Collins and Joe Manchin. I don't know why Joe Manchin voted yes, considering he's up in his own race in West Virginia. But again, you know, red state Democrats, we get it. And then Susan gets it. Also, it could shift. I mean, 1992 is a great example of how quickly political tides could shift before an election, just six weeks before an election. I mean, so Manchin could have been in trouble with his vote. I do think it could have shifted.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Sure, sure. And I think, and again, I think that my beef is more, probably more so with the DNC who, you know, they'll still back Democrats like this, who are going to completely just blow up the Senate math like this. But then, yeah, so Senate, so it all came down to Collins and, you know, everyone was so invested and there was high drama. What is she going to say? She took the Senate floor and just did a very long-winded version of like, well, let's see.
Starting point is 00:43:32 He's got a good record. He convinced me that he's not going to blow up same-sex marriage or Roe v. Wade. And the FBI investigation showed there's really no corroborating evidence so I'm going to have to believe our man Brett and it's going to be a yes for me, dog. It's such a shitty thing because it's like we vote on presidents and we take the full picture into consideration. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:43:56 I mean, for better or worse, we as voters and people vote on the fact of do we like this person? Do we trust this person? Do they have the, of course, record that they should be elected president? And like, we decide decisions on that. And the Supreme Court is, I think, a very similar thing. If you have doubt in somebody, if there's doubt about somebody's temperament,
Starting point is 00:44:16 about somebody's background, about someone's resume, you shouldn't vote for that person. And like, there was no doubt in Neil Gorsuch. Neil Gorsuch has a great record and Kavanaugh has a great judicial record. Right. He has,
Starting point is 00:44:28 for the 12 years of the judicial record, is great. There's doubt in some of his Bush years, but like, he has a good judicial record, but that doesn't mean
Starting point is 00:44:35 that there can't be doubt about who the person is that you're appointing to the Supreme Court for a lifetime. Yeah. At the very least, it should be like,
Starting point is 00:44:43 if there's doubt, that should be disqualified. It's like a surgeon, right? Yeah. You're about to get surgery and the doctor has a bunch of Cheeto dust all over his face and finger. He's like, yeah, what are we doing with you today? Unless it's the super hot one.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Yeah. Unless it's the super hot one. Then, yeah, by all means, get some Cheeto dust all over me. Yeah. But like, yeah, you know, at that point you'd be like, oh shit, I don't know about this doctor. Yeah. And you would be like, yeah, I don't know if I want to put my life in this person's
Starting point is 00:45:01 hands. Yeah. And the same thing should be for someone who has, who can shape the legal future of this country for years ahead. If you have any doubt, that's just like, come on. Like you want people who you're going to feel confident that they're going to be impartial and not emotional. And at the very least, not some kind of sex crim.
Starting point is 00:45:17 And the bullshit accusations of her saying that I believe that he'll uphold same-sex marriage and Roe v. Wade and all these things. When history shows us that Supreme Court justices, when appointed to the Supreme Court, when they actually get on the seat, change over time, shift their judicial record over time. Look at Ginsburg. Look at Roberts. Look at... I mean, Earl Warren's a great example of someone who, as a judge in the state of California... Earl Warren from the 1950s, as a state in the state of California, Supreme Court justice or the chief justice of the Supreme Court in California. He was very conservative for California in the 1950s. And then Eisenhower appoints him to the fucking Supreme Court.
Starting point is 00:45:56 And he's thinking, I got my conservative Republican dude in there. And the dude turns into the most liberal chief justice of the Supreme Court in probably the last hundred years. And he's the one who oversaw Brown v. Board of Education. And landmark cases, it's just so – how can you even – that shouldn't even be a factor really. Right. On like predicting which way he'll go on things. Yeah. He could change in a second.
Starting point is 00:46:22 I mean look at the Civil Rights Act. he'll go on things. Yeah, he could change in a second. I mean, look at the Civil Rights Act. I mean, you would expect like, you know, Justice Roberts
Starting point is 00:46:27 to uphold the Voting Rights Act and uphold the case, but instead they just let it go. Right. It's, yeah. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:36 So, I mean, as we record this, he hasn't taken the oath of office or anything, but pretty much looking at a new Supreme Court justice
Starting point is 00:46:42 in Red Cavanaugh. Yeah. So, with that pockmarked face and that wavy fucking douchebag white dude, Maryland hair, seawater in it. It's such Maryland hair. It's such a Maryland fucking hair.
Starting point is 00:46:56 Sorry, I curse. Well, you know, it's just that, yeah, it can feel very defeating at this moment, but let's not allow this to change our focus.
Starting point is 00:47:06 If anything, we need to redouble our efforts. Yeah, I mean, in just a couple of weeks, and 1992 is a great example of how quickly things can change. So what happened in 1992? With the elections, it was the largest. I think it was like at the time it was there were 2%. Dianne Feinstein had a great quote where she said, I don't drink 2% milk and I don't think it's right for Congress about how many women were in Congress at the time. And more women were elected to Congress than ever in the history of the country in 1992 as a backlash to the Clarence Thomas Supreme Court hearings.
Starting point is 00:47:37 And this same thing could be happening right now. We're seeing it in primaries across the country where you have women of color. You have people of color. you have minorities of all stripes. There's a bisexual candidate running for office for U.S. Senate in Arizona. There's a trans woman who could be potentially the next governor of Vermont. I mean there are great things happening in the country and it's like if we just fucking get our shit together and realize that these white privileged Maryland haired douchebags are the ones running our fucking country, that maybe we can actually have our voices heard if we just go and register to vote and fucking vote. And in some instances, you might actually have the skills to run, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:16 And don't think that a dick pic is not going to stop anyone these days. Yeah. Look at the shit we have going on. And yeah, and it's important to think, too, because I think because we're sort of conditioned to think, oh, this is what a politician looks like. I would never run for office. And now we're starting to see people sort of believe or at least understand their own power or their actual ability to affect change locally, whatever. But my God, just getting more involved. Because, yeah, when you see these old five old white guys explaining why they're like, yeah, I think Brett's cool.
Starting point is 00:48:42 five old white guys explaining why they're like, yeah, I think Brett's cool. I think that should be ringing alarm bells for people to be like, is this truly representative of what our country is and looks like? It's not representative of my world. Yeah. I'm the only white dude in the room.
Starting point is 00:48:56 The token white man. And I think you've got to be frustrated, like you said, with the current state of the DNC, who it seems like they're still i don't know they they still manage to fuck this up like when it comes to like it's like they're scared of seeming like they're being mean to the guy who's swinging a baseball bat at their head like well there's just there's such a scary backlash that could happen i mean i think we've all the three of us we've all worked in politics before right i have no you not. Oh, you have. You and I have.
Starting point is 00:49:25 And there's such a scary backlash that can come so quickly. And Democrats, you know, they're tepid people. Because it's such a wide umbrella party addressing that. I mean Republicans have it easy in that they essentially have just white people, white, you know, older people, Christians. And that's all they have to represent. Whereas Democrats are such a white umbrella party that they have to represent so many people. They don't realize that like we as a people are actually united. We can respect differences. And, you know, you look on the internet of sort of liberal groups and there is some unity. Yes, there's separation in certain areas with like Black Lives Matters politics and
Starting point is 00:50:04 like, you know, certain gay rights politics. And there's differences. But at the end of the day, we want to see good people, minorities get elected to Congress. And I don't know. Like Michael Bloomberg says he's exploring a run for president in 2020. Right. As a Democrat. As a Democrat, which on some level I'm thinking like, you know, political parties shift over time.
Starting point is 00:50:24 And the Republican Party and the Republican Party and the Democratic Party that we have now is essentially a new party. It's only been around since the 1950s, really. And I think we're at a time where we maybe need to get away. And I can't believe I'm saying this because in 2000, I was so angry about a third party, but like not so much having a third party, but just having more parties, more representation, more ideas out there, people talking and giving ideas, having an independent run for office. But because of the way our political system's set up, an independent can't get the financing, can't get the money.
Starting point is 00:50:53 There's no primary nomination. There's nothing. They can't get on the fucking ballot because we've set up a country where it's only two parties have these powers that white dudes are running. Yeah. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:54:30 Right. And if we hit turbulence, just blame it on Mercury retrograde. Or Emily's questionable space piloting skills. Hey! Join us on In Our Own World for cosmic conversations, stellar laughs, and super corny dad jokes listen to in our own world as a part of the my cultura podcast network available on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts and don't worry we promise to avoid any black holes most of the and we're back and a big news story is taking place all across america hooters is slowly dying you guys yeah who would have thought that uh the place where people wear fucking 80s sexy outfits is losing its appeal like vox did this whole piece on it uh and as i was reading it,
Starting point is 00:55:25 they're like, what's going on? You know, is it that millennials are too woke for like a place where like hyper-sexualized waitresses walking around or servers walking around serving you? Is it that we're just into ass more? We're not about boobs.
Starting point is 00:55:37 Is it because the food sucks or the uniforms whack or restaurants in general over? And it seems like there's a combination of all of those things. Like, so apparently from 2012 to 2016, they had to close like around 7% of their locations. Yeah. And then they were kind of looking that against how Pornhub reported. There was like a decline in boob searches for porn.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Like the breast is no longer the popular thing. The Kardashian effect? Who knows? And so that was, and that's what sort of business insider was like. And it probably has to do with like boobs just aren't in anymore. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:11 That's what, that was, but then, so Vox, you know, they're not going to accept that. Well, they went,
Starting point is 00:56:16 they went a little bit deeper and they're like, you know, there's a lot going wrong with that place aside from the obvious shit. Right. They said, for example, you look at the Yelp reviews. A lot of people have gripes about the food.
Starting point is 00:56:26 You know, they're like, oh, these wings are fucking too small. Or like, the drinks suck. Not if you ask Michael Scott of The Office. He loved Hooters. Loved Hooters. Loved Hooters. Granted, some of the complaints were like, oh, well, you know, some of the servers weren't as well endowed as I would like,
Starting point is 00:56:40 you know, your typical fucking misogynistic shit. But then they're also looking, they're like, yo, the menu is pretty whack. And you look at or places called like tilted kilt and twin peaks which are in this breast ront category where like tilted kilt is more like a short skirt sexy aesthetic school girl thing and twin peaks is like outdoor sexy woman thing they have they're saying like their menus are more like appealing like they're actually sort of in line with what's in fashion in terms of food and like twin peaks actually has like a very fresh menu like where everything's made from scratch so they're saying
Starting point is 00:57:14 well food could be issue and then they're all saying the uniforms also have a lot to like most people just they're look at the uniforms like this this appeals to old-ass baby boomers. This has nothing to do with anything now. Isn't it like pantyhose and shorts? Yeah, tan hose, orange shorts, the white tank top, white sneakers. And some people who work in the business consulting thing, they should try a revamp. Maybe even let the servers dress however they want to.
Starting point is 00:57:45 Yeah. So it doesn't feel like this weird forced sexiness. Can men work there? Yeah, as managers or as like bus boys are in the kitchen. But I don't think they're necessarily the servers in the restaurant, or at least I've never been. Isn't that like against the law? I think there was a lawsuit threatened by a man who wanted to work at a Hooters as a
Starting point is 00:58:04 server. And I forget where that news story went, but I think it was somewhat disingenuous that he actually wanted to work there. I mean, I want my servers to be mostly clothed because there's nothing worse than finding a hair in your food. And if a dude had to wear that short of shorts, pubic hair would get in there. Your balls would be hanging out. Your balls would be hanging out, Your balls would be hanging out. Yeah. Which, like, you know, that's...
Starting point is 00:58:27 Hot. Yeah. Yeah. With a new restaurant called Saks. Right. Some shit. Yeah, dude, come through to Saks. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:58:34 I went to Hooters for prom. Oh, wow. Did you have your prom dinner there? And, yeah, we had dinner before prom there, me and my prom date. Yeah. It was funny. I think the wings are, you know, they need to update. I hate wings.
Starting point is 00:58:43 And also, I just feel like now, it's just, oh, come on. Because I don't like any food that like, you have to use like 40 napkins for. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:58:51 I love interactive food. Really? Like crawfish, wings. If you like, there's a place in Los Feliz with really good wings. Which one?
Starting point is 00:58:57 It's a bar on Hillhurst. Yes. Yeah, I'm a wing man. They have a good karaoke night too. Yeah, they do. And the drinks are stiff.
Starting point is 00:59:05 But yeah, I think in the end, it's just, I have a feeling it's just that kind of thing has very limited appeal in general. And I think societally, we're just not like, yeah, let's go to the weirdest place. It's the blockbuster of foods. Yeah. And they also point out in the article, like Hooters tried to start an airline a few, like 10 years ago or 12 years ago. Yeah. They lost like 40 million on it, like like instantly like just vaporized into the wind. Can you imagine eating wings
Starting point is 00:59:27 on a plane? That's like someone bringing Chinese food on a plane. Yeah. It's like, it's the hot sauce. You have deep fryers
Starting point is 00:59:34 going on board. That is insane. But it was just more like that all of the flight attendants were dressed very scantily. And, you know, I think they were also pointing
Starting point is 00:59:42 that's probably a reason why they're so risk averse now because they fucking bet big on an airline. I don't know how the fuck they thought that was a good idea. Can I say one thing? I don't. This is kind of off topic, but it's about airlines. I hate the acceptance of gay, like how gay acceptance has become so wide, because like years ago when gays were still getting discriminated against and I would fly, the gay flight attendant would be like, oh, let me get you a drink.
Starting point is 01:00:05 It was always a thing. But now we're all so fucking equal, I don't get any drinks anymore. No hookups. That's why you gotta go on and give them candy. Give them candy? If you give a gift to the flight attendants when you go on board.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Do you really give gifts to flight attendants? I read about it. I did it once, and I brought a bag of cookies or some shit, and I read in a thing. Cookies? It was like a thing from home flight attendants were giving you hacks like they're like this is from the way we see it if you want the fucking the inn yeah this is what you need to do it's like they always really appreciate if you come
Starting point is 01:00:34 on board and you give them some just give them something wow and they're like you watch how many free drinks you get did it i was drinking so many i had that with a button i had a button that said fuck 2016 and every time I flew in 2016, I always got free shit. Yeah. Cause they were like, that's a good button. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:49 If you can just get on their radar, right. You know, that's all you got to do. And usually a nice gesture is a way to do it. Also just, you know, treat the flight attendants with care.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Yeah. Treat everyone with care. That's what we should be doing. Cause man, people get so entitled on a fucking airplane. It's absurd. That's why, that's why I pay the money is so that I can treat other human beings like garbage.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Why am I paying four grand for this? Take one sip and then spill it. I like beer. I like beer. Yeah, I like beer. That's a real thing now. All right, we got time for a quick little Bloid Watch. Bloid Watch.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Miles, what's happening on the cover of the tabloids? Well, on the back, yo, the Charmed reboot got every line. Whoa, shit. Oh, my God. Nearly every Boyd has the Charmed full back page ad for the reboot. Aren't they all the same publisher? Yeah, they're the same publisher. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:39 API. API. I don't know why we talk about this every week. I love a tabloid. Oh, I love a tabloid. I subscribe to Tablet, the magazine app. For your iPad? It's way cheaper, right?
Starting point is 01:01:50 You get $14 a month and I get all the magazines. Is it just any magazine? Yeah. Unlimited download. New Yorker, Time, People, OK, Us, all of them. OK. New sponsor. Yeah, right? One of them. Okay. Okay. Okay. So let's see. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 01:02:06 Shit. One of the things that first jumped out at me was on the globe. Obviously, they're saying Kenny Rogers is dying. He's been dying for 40 years. He's been dying. But this one, Cher and Tom back together. Cher and Tom Cruise. Were they together? They were for very little.
Starting point is 01:02:22 They went on like a date or something. Yeah. Right. And they say in here, share rates Tom as the best lover she's ever had. Well, she's half, he's half her size.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Yeah. Right. He can, he can get up in place. I mean, if he could turn back time. Now, yeah,
Starting point is 01:02:36 it looks like, I mean, they just have a photo of them together at an event looking like friendly. But again, this is fucking the close. I bet in that photo, they're like, remember when you ate me out
Starting point is 01:02:46 yeah he's like it was the only time I've ever done that yeah that's why I joined Scientology you were my last
Starting point is 01:02:53 non-Scientologist so yeah that was just a fun idea I had no idea that Sharon Tom Cruise would get her to I know
Starting point is 01:03:00 I ship them now knowing this hell yeah and then you just have kind of your run-of-the-mill shit. Who is it? InTouch is really going all in on this. They're out here saying Brad and Jen baby fucking announcement.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Yeah. We have yet to. I'm sorry. Baby announcement. How is she still? I mean, I like Jennifer Aniston, but what has she done to be on the cover of magazines? Sold a bunch of magazines in the 90s. We have a theory, yeah, that this must have been,
Starting point is 01:03:27 this combination of faces of Brad and Jen just was an instant cop for people in line for a towel. They are sort of like that perfect white American-looking Nordic shit. Although who was fucking tweeting? Maybe it was Naomi Ackperigan or something. They were saying, I've been re-watching Friends reruns and things like that, and they're like, Rachel Green is definitely the type of white woman to call the police on a little girl selling lemonade outside her building.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Which makes sense. So true. But yeah. And inside, it's all just people saying whatever a source says. And they're getting away with this. My housekeeper's friend's sister's brother said. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 01:04:02 But I still don't understand. This is just so clearly not a real thing. Yeah. But every week. Oh, but sister's brothers. Yeah. Right. But I still don't understand. Like, this is just such so clearly not a real thing. Yeah. But every week. Oh, but it's fun. I know. It's so fun. But it would be the same thing about them being like Obama and FKA twigs.
Starting point is 01:04:16 And I would read that too. But you're like, that shit ain't happening. I mean, it's when you know it's fake, but it also just makes you feel good. It's like putting on that nail polish that like, you know, you can't get away with, but it also just makes you feel good. It's like putting on that nail polish that you know you can't get away with, but it just makes you feel so good. You guys probably don't really do that. Well, no. The hard candy, I remember, came with a free ring.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Yeah. That's all I remember. And I used to buy that. The one had the Katie and Nicole Tom Cruise thing. This one? Oh, yeah. The new war with Tom. Controlling.
Starting point is 01:04:44 And again, it's just like two people who they're like, they're sick of Scientology meddling in their lives and they're gonna fight back in a way we don't know yet. I wonder how much Scientology impacted those two divorces. It had to be huge. Oh, all the
Starting point is 01:04:59 documentaries you see with the people who have left the church like there is that one dude I forget what his name is, but he was like David Miscavige's right hand who left. He was like, I had to break Nicole Kidman up with Tom Cruise. And then I was also in charge of finding Tom's new beard or pretend wife or whatever you want to call Katie or Nicole. I don't think he's gay. I think John Travolta is, but I don't think he is. Oh, John Travolta is gay.
Starting point is 01:05:23 What do you think Tom Cruise is? Why do you think he's in Scientology think John Travolta is, but I don't think he is. Oh, John Travolta is gay. What do you think Tom Cruise is? Why do you think he's in Scientology? What do you think is – Well, I think he's just like half the people in L.A. because they get into like – even like the straight dudes I was talking about earlier who want to like identify as queer but actually have never touched a dick. It's like they just want to like – they need it for their identity. It's like it's a – because they don't have a personality outside of it.
Starting point is 01:05:40 So it's like I'm a Scientologist. Yeah. He has to seek and they validate him and they know that they can benefit off of him. So he's like, great. I get a personality and you guys get good stuff. Yeah. And he gets to be Scientology Jesus 2.0. I mean, he literally gets to be Jesus.
Starting point is 01:05:52 He's basically Scientology Jesus. Well, yeah. Because once Miscavige goes, it'll be Tom. And then they're saying after Tom, it'll be his son, Connor, who we talked about. I wonder if his career will just drop off like movie wise once he becomes the head of Scientology because he'll be so busy. Because right now, he's the hardest working person, movie star.
Starting point is 01:06:10 Because he's trying to have that second comeback. He's waiting for that next Oscar nomination. Yeah, the problem is you have to go away for a little bit to have a comeback rather than just be like, I got a movie coming out every 18 months, basically, every year.
Starting point is 01:06:20 So, yeah. My advice to you, Tom, just fall back for a little bit and then maybe you'll get that Oscar. Yeah. And then, uh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Other than that, it's just a lot of, you know, they're just coming at Angelina Jolie, 73 pounds, pin thin legs. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Maybe her pants are baggy, but she eats a lot of McDonald's. At least she gets photographed eating McDonald's. Does she? Yeah. Oh, it's weird. It's weird.
Starting point is 01:06:39 All the covers always like only show the worst angle with something being like, she's on her fucking deathbed. Yeah, of course. Type shit. Because they love a cover. No, I see her in the drive. I mean, I don't see her, but I see tabloid pictures of her in the drive-thru all the time.
Starting point is 01:06:51 And then now they're saying, though, like in Bill Cosby in jail, the other convicts are throwing stale hot dog buns at him. He thinks he's going to get poisoned. That would not hurt. He won't shower. Yeah, that's what they're so weird. Like a hot dog would hurt more. Right, exactly.
Starting point is 01:07:08 It would make a great sequel to that one gif of that woman with the hot dogs flying on her face. But with Bill Cosby just throwing. Yeah, and that's about that. Yeah. H. Allen, it's been a pleasure having you. Thank you. Where can people find you? Everywhere at H. Allen Scott. And then pleasure having you where can people find you? everywhere at H. Allen Scott
Starting point is 01:07:27 and then there's a new movie coming out that I'm a documentary subject of called Latter Day Jew it's about I converted from Mormonism to Judaism and yeah coming out soon and is there a tweet that you've been enjoying? it's not a recent tweet
Starting point is 01:07:43 but when I heard this it's literally the first thing I thought of, and it always fucking makes me laugh. Whoever created the account of Stevie Wonder on Twitter Oh, it's just gibberish. It's like the best thing. It's so mean, but it's so good. I Google image it just to make myself feel
Starting point is 01:08:00 happy. Right, right, right. It's just gibberish. It's just so good. It's just gibberish it's just so good it's just little this is gibberish yeah uh that's really funny yeah because it looks like someone's just mashing a keyboard with an open hand it's like it's like jkl977 at that collection miles where can people find you find me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray a tweet i like it actually came from a listener nick you got a one stringy magoo we were talking last week about how we're sticklers for grammar and i was like yes i'm kind of a grammar nazi and he said you guys were saying you were grammar nazis and i'm with you but you should identify as alt right w-r-i-t-e don't, we'll all know what you mean. And I was like, well played, my man, for that clever pun.
Starting point is 01:08:46 And just for good measure, one reductress tweet that says, four Halloween costumes that'll make him say, oh, cool, yeah, I haven't seen that show. It's like Darcy Carden in The Good Place and then Marvelous Miss Maisel as pictures. A tweet I've been enjoying. Matt Ford was quoting a Swedish news source that said, eight-year-old Swedish girl pulls Viking-era sword from lake. And Matt Ford, quote, we have a ninth justice, which would be a better way of determining that.
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