The Daily Zeitgeist - TDZ x The Dollop: Historical DeJa Vu 04.30.24
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We do a cold open now that just kind of like,
just us kind of riffing right now at the top of the show,
like before the show opens, if you're cool with that.
Wow. Yeah.
Cool.
I just didn't know.
So it's so organic and authentic.
You know, just like learn something hanging around Nathan Fielder, you know?
Yeah. Good. Smart. Always roll.
Yep. We're trying authenticity out for the first time.
It's kind of fucking dangerous.
Seven years.
Congrats on 10.
Crazy.
That's fucking crazy.
No, we can't believe it.
This will be
our first appearance since we've crossed.
Since you've crossed over into the decade.
Oh, yeah.
The decade.
Yeah.
Your second decade as a podcast.
Yeah, exactly.
Second.
How many decades do you think you're going to go here?
17.
I think five to six.
17 decades.
17.
Seems about right.
We've recorded a lot.
Yeah, just upload.
You've got a big back channel.
They get really bad.
Yeah, they're not good.
They're short and not good they're short
and not good
and not connected
to actual history
right yeah
it's just like
those Tupac albums
you're like
how many albums
worth of stuff
did he just sit on
yeah exactly
yeah it's like
Johnny DeCascio Tupac
we're like
I'm sorry
you're 20 years gone
we're like
got a new one
got a new one
full album
full length
it's a double discer
yeah
that's right
you're just guessing
what history is
in the future
even if Trump got his balls replaced disker. Yeah. That's right. You're just guessing what history is in the future.
Even if Trump got his balls replaced
with, yeah.
Monkey balls.
That actually
wouldn't be strange.
No, we covered
that recently.
Thinly sliced
monkey balls.
Yeah, exactly.
That episode is
fucking normal.
You guys.
There's a new,
oh, you heard the
new one about the
monkey?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The one that just dropped last week. There's been two episodes where guys. There's a new. Oh, you heard the new one about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The one that just dropped last week.
There's been two episodes where guys have put balls and balls.
Balls on the balls.
The bang.
The bang.
Yeah.
Balls on the balls.
A bang.
The bang.
Wicked.
Wicked.
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Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.
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iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to season 336 episode 2 of their daily
production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it is Tuesday, April 30th, 2024. It's almost here. May.
It's also National Adopt-a-Shelter-Pet Day, National Bubble Tea Day. If you're into the
Bobes, you know it's your day. It's National Preparation. I don't even know what Preparation
Day is. It's a bunch of people teaching their kids. Prepping? Preparation H.
Oh, yeah.
Preparation H Day.
Yep.
They should specify which preparation.
Yeah.
It's emergencies.
National Raisin Day.
National Oatmeal Cookie Day.
Jesus.
Oatmeals and...
Okay.
Anyway, that's the worst cookie.
National Hairstylist Appreciation Day.
National Bugs Bunny Day.
He has his own fucking day?
Yeah, man.
Okay, asshole.
Yeah.
It's actually a religious holiday
for some of us so i wish you'd uh put some respect on his name all right well so i'm assuming national
preparation day is obviously preparation h but also it's like the day for people who
know how long you can have gasoline buried in your backyard before it goes bad yeah before it
goes bad and yeah six years exactly thank you exactly but yeah it's it's funny because it's like the photo is like
of this family around a couch and it's like toilet paper is on the table and batteries and a dad's
like pointing to a map and he's like and this is where we will attack the police for resources
put the batteries up our ass yeah boof them boof them boof the batteries my name is jack
o'brien aka amikai motherfuckers uh that is courtesy of lacaroni on the discord wrote that's
what john mcclain reading an amicus brief would be or reading, multiple. We learned the plural of amicus is amici.
Or amici, yeah.
I'm thrilled to be joined.
Amici?
Amici?
Mm-hmm.
Amici, yeah.
Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray!
Yes, Miles Gray, a.k.a.
AI some music.
It's that shitty music.
AI some music. The shitty robot music. It's that shitty music. AI some music.
The shitty robot music.
I have seen too many people make fake AI songs.
Like, dude, isn't this great?
It's like a mariachi version of learning how to like weigh drugs or something.
And it's always just this terrible shit.
I'm already over the cool AI song music.
So leave it alone i came up with that
aka last night when i was listening to bob marley while feeding the baby so that's how that that's
how that came about feeding the baby in quotes yeah hitting my gravity bong to bob marley because
i'm stuck in a time loop this contributes to our theory ai fun, fun to play with. The results suck shit as of yet.
It's like fun for the person creating it.
They're like, whoa, this is like kind of neat and a cool thing we just created.
And then the results are dog shit.
Just keep them to yourself.
Anyways, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third and fourth seats by two legends.
Legend mate. Joined in our third and fourth seats by two legends, legend mate, hilarious stand-up comedians who host one of the great podcasts to ever do it, The Dollop, an American history podcast, which just celebrated, speaking of American history, celebrated its 10th anniversary in existence.
Please welcome to the show, Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds.
David Gareth.
Hi. Welcome. Thank you. Hi. 10 years. Please welcome to the show Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds Dave and Gareth Hi Welcome
Thank you
Hi
10 long years
How's it going?
Happy Prepper Day
Yeah, thanks
Happy Prepper Day
And to you as well
May everyone
With your spirit
Boof your decels
I'm teaching my son
How to make
Homemade claymores
For breakfast
Oh, cool
Smart
Yeah
That won't blow off in your
hands. No, no.
I hope not.
That's how I lost my last one.
The first two
if memory serves. Yeah, two.
Yeah, it was two. But this one's 14.
The other ones were eight.
I feel good about where this one's at.
You're tweaking the process. You're like, introduce
them to the plastic explosives at 11. one's at. There you go. Yeah. You're tweaking the process. You're like, introduce them to the plastic explosives,
like at 11.
That's right.
Yeah.
Right.
I get it.
I get it.
Man.
10 years though is a pretty,
I mean like we were just jacking everything and like,
we're about to,
we're getting into like our seventh year,
not later this year.
And we're like,
is that forever?
But 10 also like from,
even from seven years feels like a super long time so just so you get each
other on your 10th anniversary podcast co-hosts uh well 10th 10th is the wood sacrifice 10th is
the wooden one uh so we we jerked off in front of each other there you go for the first time for
the wood yeah yeah exactly exactly precisely precisely no it's absolutely it's really crazy
and i don't even think it was.
I don't know.
Personally, I didn't really think about it too much until we were actually like doing a thing for it.
And then I was like, this is really crazy.
Ten years in general.
I've always thought that about like my niece and nephew.
I'm like, they now I can tell that I'm aging because of their existence.
I'm the same with the dollop.
Like when we started, I started, the fact that I was
mid-30s, I'm like, I was a kid.
Right.
A child.
A child. A babe.
But no, it's great. We're very happy
and glad to move
on. Focus
on the work.
Thank you.
We all benefit from that work.
You're talking, weirdos.
That's right.
I mean, you just, I got to say, the most recent episode as of this publishing is one of my favorite dollops ever.
I've been listening for a long time, but still got the fastball, you know, some LeBron James longevity.
Yeah, no, we went to Germany.
We got special injections in Germany.
Yeah, it's really helped.
We can keep playing.
You look loose.
Yeah, we're loose.
We're still loose.
Yeah, exactly.
Stem cells straight into the base of the skull, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah, we're good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it is amazing, too, because even in the episode,
you're like, do we have like another, like a goat side character?
And that's 10
years in and it's still finding just the mccormick dude gave us uh quite a quite quite a lot for me
to actually envision as you guys were talking about that guy and all of his you know contraptions and
lifestyle yeah really crazy yeah there's some that are like there's somewhere it's like okay
you gotta like you know it's
historically very interesting and you maybe need to try to well out a little more comedy and then
there's some where you're like i gotta like stop talking i mean i could this could be a four hour
episode you know what the fuck is going on can you keep describing this guy actually yeah
could you read that again yeah like i said i think it was the first time i was like you read
up like a paragraph one more time oh yeah right yeah amazing well we're actually going to talk
about that guy because the the premise of this episode we want to discuss some of the themes
that kind of pop up time and again on the dollop in American history that we have seen. Now, this might seem strange
because Americans famously very historically literate people, and that's supposed to be the
cure for having history repeat itself. But there are a couple things that we see popping up in the
zeitgeist, the modern zeitgeist. So we wanted to just kind of talk about some of these trends,
get you guys' thoughts on some of these trends that you've covered a couple of times and that are still that we are covering in our daily news podcast.
It's funny because it is like history. The saying history does repeat itself is actually extremely lazy because to your point, it's like, yeah, if people just I mean, I'm among them, but if people just paid attention, you'd be like, hey, no, we're like,
that's where we get Nazi.
Yeah, careful.
We did this one.
Yeah, this is bad.
We did this.
Yeah.
You got a lot of unemployed soldiers.
I don't think that goes well, Norm, based on what I've seen.
Yeah, it doesn't usually.
All right, whatever.
Either way, it's probably fine.
Did you see the Connors this week?
Yeah, but we got Wi-Fi now, though.
That's like the difference, dude.
Yeah.
I don't watch the Connors since it went woke.
I know.
All right.
Before we get into it, though, we do like to get to know you a little bit better by asking you guys,
what is something from your search history or something you've recently screencapped that is revealing about
who you are? Well, Dave's
has got to be insane
because I've researched a
few dollops and I'm always
like, man, if
the FBI wants me
to throw, they can now. There's easy
access. How to teach child to make
claymore mines.
Yeah.
You want me to look up my search history right now and
tell you what
if you dare.
It's gonna be.
If it is just a lot of porn and you read that off,
that would be awesome. That has happened.
We appreciate the honesty.
Yeah, the odd is the candor.
Hot minesweeper. Hot mind sweeper.
Yeah.
Hamlet's ghost.
Hamlet's ghost was okay.
It was a guy.
It's an Australian thing.
And they think that Hamlet's ghost was on a ship.
Oh, wow.
In the 1800s.
A Scottish play.
Yeah, pretty normal stuff.
Pretty normal stuff.
Wait, which one's Macbeth?
Oh, yeah, that's Macbeth.
That's the Scottish play.
All right, yeah.
I was like, wait.
I know one thing about Shakespeare,
and that was the thing I knew. I was like, wait, I know one thing about Shakespeare and I was like, that was the thing I knew.
I was like,
wait,
uh,
Scottish play.
Right.
On all my chickens.
That's how I remember that line.
And I was like,
what the fuck is this guy talking about?
You know,
you know,
yeah.
Yeah.
It's just your chickens or your kids or family.
My last one that I think is interesting.
That isn't hard core porn is,
um,
our earwigs dangerous. I hope and yes they are well the big ones are the what the four foot ones yeah like the anaconda types yeah yeah i mean
you want to talk about a scary fucking animal make an earwig that's big that oh yeah buddy listen
it's cool oh this is an ear i didn't know what the fucking earwig
was when you said that i was like i was like oh you mean pincher bugs pincher bugs to the layman
yeah to me yeah i can't believe you're distinguishing shakespeare plays and i know
and i'm like you know pincher bug like wow he's really astute and he's like you mean the
potato bug yeah roly polies yeah wait did you like encounter an earwig or something?
Yeah, a lot of them
And I was like
You know, and I know they're not
It's that tail that throws you off
They got like a scissor tail
But they just aren't using it
Those fucking losers
Yeah
Purely decorative
I don't know what they're doing
But they're kind of just like
Weirdo scissor platypus insects,
and they're not really utilizing their main weapon.
Like if John Taffer were to see an earwig,
he'd be like, you got it.
You know what I mean?
You'd be like, you got the showpiece.
Right.
Oh, I guess it's just to fend off predators.
But what are you going to do with that?
But when I pick them up,
I pretty much throw them outside because I'm like'm like they're not dangerous i've learned so
i'll like toss them outside for the most part but they never use it yeah on me yeah right well
i love a dry bathtub i feel like that's where i see who doesn't yeah that's like the salt burn
that's me and i'm always doing the. Be dry after you're done with it.
Drink it up with whatever's left in there.
Drain needs some lube.
Oh my god.
What is something
you guys think is underrated?
Shoes that you don't tie?
I think...
Hear me out.
All shoes should...
You can have shoes that look like
they tie, but they don't. You slip them on if you want have shoes that look like they tie,
but they don't. You slip them on.
If you want tie shoes, I think
yeah, I think you shouldn't
have any shoes that you have to tie.
Let's just slip them all on.
Let's just
be advanced. We're an advanced civilization.
It's time to step into the footwear
we should have.
I think that's true. The fact that we're still fucking with laces is remarkable.
Mine would be houseplants.
I think houseplants, they're great.
Well, the idea that we should probably be out in nature somewhere,
so we should just have like five or six houseplants.
But I think for me, it was probably about seven years ago
when I was like, you know, I probably should have some plants in here and they're they're great i love what do
you got and you are you're not doing the thing where like most the trope on the internet was
like i can't keep a fucking house plant alive no save my life easiest shit in the world to keep
it's ridiculous yeah i've moved i have one house plant i call robert plant and other people have
done that but i didn't know they were doing it.
Okay.
That's pretty common.
I'll take your word.
And,
uh,
just like you can't,
shut up.
And,
uh,
enough.
I have had two moves with Robert plant and two different States and he
survived both.
I have multiple.
It's really so fucking easy.
Yeah.
It's weird how,
like I was sort of like the thing where I,
I couldn't keep a house plant alive and it just took another human to be
like,
just like this plant,
just fucking water it once a week at the same time.
Once a week.
How much water though?
Like a gallon?
Like no fuck face.
Like just some,
just this much to be moist.
Yeah.
And I'm like,
Oh yeah.
And they're like,
touch the dirt.
Is it fucking bone dry?
It needs fucking water.
Is it yellow?
You did too much.
Right. Right, right.
Yeah.
It's complicated though.
I mean, the whole process you just described
sounds kind of like you should have a degree.
Yeah.
Right.
Well, you're saving a lot of time
not lacing your shoes up.
So you can probably go watering
within the time you're saving cum.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm not though
because not all shoes are there yet.
So I'm still tying.
All right.
This is kidding.
You're still tying, Matt?
Look, I don't want
to be tying, but some shoes I like
and I have to tie them.
Once they're all slip-ons, I'll be able
to move over to the plant situation.
I'd love to see a picture
of a house full of dead plants, like do
one thing at a fucking time. While he's lacing his
shoes up. Yeah.
Yeah!
Founding! I truly am just i'm gonna come clean i've been i'm not good at keeping
house plants alive and i think i'm realizing it's because i haven't just googled each plant
once the easiest it sounds like that's the solve yeah yeah no this doesn't yeah there's also
eyeball it yeah there's also apps where you just literally hold your phone up to it.
What's wrong with it?
It's like, hey, dumbass, water it.
You're like.
Yeah, exactly.
I think even the iPhone now, like, you can take a picture of a plant and it'll tell you what, like, species of plant you're looking at.
I was like, oh.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Wow.
I'm blown away, too.
I'm still.
I do.
I do.
The first thing I do with any pair of shoes is like kind of measure
the right place to like knot it so i don't actually like they look tied but i never have
to untie them yeah it's key yeah yeah yeah because you don't want to do the like pressure on the back
situation getting it in yeah it is it is a very good call day because it is shocking how often
i'm like okay i gotta get this done oh yeah i mean
like growing up in a house where you don't wear shoes like you learn you're like man i gotta
optimize every pair of shoes i have to slip on and slip off yeah and i remember one time when i was
wearing like shit that like laced up i almost pissed myself because i did i rushed home and
i was like but i gotta take my shoes off and i was like fuck like it was so chaotic that i was
like i can't wear these fucking shoes again.
Yeah.
So,
yeah.
I don't know if you can blame pissing your pants on shoes to me.
Well,
I did.
Okay.
Okay.
I'm not on trial right now.
Just piss in the plant.
You really eliminate the issue right there.
Just kill it.
Dead.
Yeah.
Plant piss.
What is,
uh,
what's something you guys think is overrated?
Uh,
I,
the NFL draft as this year, officially for me, I was like, this is getting stupid. Yeah. What, what's something you guys think is overrated? Uh, I, the NFL draft as this year,
officially for me,
I was like,
this is getting stupid.
Yeah.
What,
what happened there?
It's too much.
It,
it,
I've enjoyed watching the NFL draft to some extent for a while,
but this was the year where I was like,
either Detroit is the saddest city in America or the draft.
We've lost the plot.
It was like the amount of people that showed up to it.
And I was talking to my buddy and we were both like, yeah, it's like it.
I don't know if it's my age or if it's that society's crumbling, whatever it is.
Watching men my age in jerseys be so into 20 year olds.
It's like it's fucking weird. It's just weird to watch dudes
boo a 20 year old or be like, Oh fuck. Yeah. It's like, dude, you are 48. It's like, I get
every Sunday I'm in let's go. Right. But this level of obsession, It really, like, Roger Goodell is the worst.
He's a senator's son.
He's the epitome of privilege.
He makes way too much money.
But he somehow has hypnotized people
into thinking that the draft is something that it isn't,
which is exciting.
Right.
Yeah.
First of all, Goodell,
I didn't realize he was the child of a senator i i he he's
thinking about adding an 18th game like after that adding another game was like universally
panned he's like i heard you and i'm thinking about what about the second additional game
he's fucking around with i don't think they can actually do it, but he is trying to
add a division
in Europe.
I don't even know
how the fuck that works.
How do they do that? They can't do that.
Because aren't already a few games
played in London now? Oh yeah, a lot of
games. There's probably five to
seven every year.
I heard something like that the
packers are the only team that hasn't played there like didn't because they're like yeah we can't get
all the fans out there man excuse me this is like more like they're like it's logistically hard to
get all the packers fans out of there like but i'm like i don't know if that's true but anyway
yeah because of the cheese what's the i don't know i think you're talking some shit i think
the perception being like they only live in green bay, Wisconsin. I'm like, that's categorically false.
I don't want to say it's racist,
but it's not not racist.
Towards Wisconsin.
That is so funny to be like the Packer fans.
They won't.
They're like Mr. T, the city.
We won't get on the plane.
I think they are playing a game somewhere this year, maybe London
there you go, what do you got Dave?
slip on shoes, I think
Dave, we really kind of
totally overrated
slip on shoes are overrated
slip on shoes are over
but you just said that you didn't want
no, let them cook, let them cook
the
fucking Stanley Cup thing the with the all the
people getting cups that are a fancy like a hydro flask but yeah it's insane they were going for
astronomical prices yeah like so much money and it's like it's a cup man it's a cup yeah
it does feel like a thing that is happening
right now that it you could do a dollop now and just bank it for 10 years down the line yeah the
stanley cup craze yeah the stanley cup craze yeah no there are tulips it's like beanie babies the
sippery cup it's yeah yeah yeah i love watching trends. I love not knowing about them and then being like, wait, what?
Yeah.
It's like prime.
The drink prime at one point going for like over a thousand.
And now everyone's like, yeah, it's not that good.
They're like, yeah, it gives me heart palpitations and diarrhea.
But like, yeah, I think with the stand, I remember like the thing that really blew my mind.
Whenever I see them, I'm like, what is the secondary market look like for this shit?
And when I was like, oh, people really are like, yeah, dude, I'll drop 500 on a fucking cup.
And I'm like, cool, man.
Yeah.
Cool.
Let everybody else know what the soccer, your kid's soccer game.
That's your balling.
Yeah.
And drinking a shitload of black mold.
Yeah.
On the inside of that straw.
It's actually white wine and Sprite.
It's white wine and Sprite.
But no one knows, okay?
Because I have a 40-ounce fucking steel cup
drinking 40 ounces of white wine and Sprite.
But even then,
toss it in a fucking coffee cup like a man.
That's right.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Baller move.
Yeah.
All right.
Let's take a quick break, and we're going to come back and talk about
some trends from both of our shows, some overlaps. We'll be right back.
I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series,
Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
And I'm Clea Gray, former member
of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have
Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films
and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades.
Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control
groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted,
just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new,
chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary
perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital
revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive
Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk
Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like,
how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is
my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions.
Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice.
And if we don't know the answer,
we bring in experts who do,
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The only difference between the person
who doesn't get the job
and the person who gets the job
is usually who applies.
Yeah, I think a lot about that quote.
What is it?
Like you miss 100% of the shots you never take?
Yeah, rejection is scary,
but it's better than you rejecting yourself.
Together, we'll share
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I'm Keri Champion,
and this is season four
of Naked Sports,
where we live at the intersection of sports and culture.
Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark vs. Angel Reese.
I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Every great player needs a foil.
I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on.
From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Angel Reese is a joy to watch.
She is unapologetically Black.
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What exactly ignited this fire?
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And we're back. Yeah, we're back back and as we were talking about up top one of the geniuses of the dollop is that we're hearing these stories that are so outrageous they seem like everyone should know
them like they should be in our history books or at least have a couple movies made about them at this point.
That's one of the persistent thoughts in my head when I'm listening to Adolphe is like, how did I not know this?
I think, Gareth, you say that pretty frequently.
But unfortunately, the fact that they're not well-known in some cases seems like one of the reasons some of these trends that we're about to talk about never really go away.
Because there's like certain things that we just memory whole, at least as a country.
I don't want to speak for the whole species.
But we're just like, yeah, no, that never happened.
That's too weird.
That's too right that's that's too
entertaining so yeah we wanted to kind of highlight some of these trends or details from
past dollop episodes that we keep seeing turn up in our show about the modern zeitgeist and get
you guys thoughts yeah because i think it's not so much like they're trends right because it's not
like racism isn't like a trend you know what i mean misogyny but it's just sort of like these constants issues yeah that we like can never
grapple with and somehow like are besting ourselves from three centuries ago we're like oh you want to
see racism cut to uh late 70s boston or some shit yeah yeah oh okay that was i thought we got past that phase
but i think that's like the interesting reminder is how how little we've actually come you know
like how like the how slow progress is because you have these reminders of like for as much as
we want to especially in america be like no we live in like a post-racial uh you know like more
equitable society like no no no no no no yeah The freaks are still out in fucking full force.
We just don't,
we just ignore them now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well,
we ignore them.
We give them more power.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's kind of what it is.
It's like,
we've never really been able to bat in the hatch for a long time.
It's like,
you have those swings where you're like,
holy shit,
you know,
we got to like,
women need a choice. You know, you get whatever it is. The, the litany of things know we gotta like women need a choice you know you get
whatever it is the the litany of things that we were like right yeah now we're good with that but
there's always that force that's always like i'm still coming motherfucker yeah yeah yeah like let
me regroup yeah yeah they do speaking of the phrase how little we've come and i'm coming
motherfucker i i want to just start with a light one, which is you've covered it
from the early days of the Serial Guys episode
about Kellogg's and Graham and Post
and how focused they were
on keeping people from jacking off
to the recent episode that I'm drawing,
Ganna Walska, is that?
Ganna Walska.
Yeah. Walska, Is that? Ganna Walska. Yeah.
Walska.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Where you covered a Hall of Fame side character
who had a contraption designed to keep himself from jacking off.
Yeah.
On our side, we saw this with the Speaker of the House recently.
Yeah.
Where, I don't know if this one's worse.
It's definitely more convoluted.
It's really not great.
It's kind of weirder because it involves family.
Yes, yes.
Right.
So we're talking about Speaker of the House Mike Johnson,
who currently, as far as we know,
has software on his phone that sends his son a report
if he jacks off to pornography.
Like his son will get, will be told about that.
Yeah.
That's just like father-son bonding.
That's right.
We get it.
We get it, Dave.
We're parents, you know.
Yeah, you guys understand.
Like my kid's 14, so I get like 19 alerts a day.
Yeah, hearing him describe it to a panel of other like evangelicals is really weird like so proud yeah he talks about how he first heard it during
like a gathering of like the promise keepers which is like an evangelical like men's group
and he's like and i was like the early 2000s and i was like and i'm not even endorsing it i don't
even make money but i'm like I endorse it because I use it.
But this is him explaining in his own way how this technology works.
Above my head how it works.
But it scans.
You obviously opt into it, but it scans all the activity on your phone or your devices, your laptop, tablet, what have you.
We do all of it.
And then it sends a report to your accountability partner.
So my accountability partner right now is Jack, my son, right?
And so he's 17.
Of course his name is Jack.
So he and I get a report of all the things that are on our phones
or all of our devices once a week.
Yeah, my son's name is Bang.
Your accountability partner gets an immediate notice.
I'm proud to tell you my son has got a clean slate, all right?
But we get a report, and it says, hey, no activity of concern.
It's really sensitive.
It will pick up almost anything.
It looks for keywords, search terms, and also images.
And it will send your accountability partner a blurred picture of the image.
So on occasion I get one.
I was just looking at the one from this week I got on Jack and it said this is the only
one that may be questionable and it's this blurred image of two,
two women talking in a live screen thing.
And I zoom in and I have to unblur it.
And it's,
and it's two middle-aged teachers.
Okay,
cool.
Well,
then the technology actually fucking sucks.
If it's looking at two teachers talking and it's like porn.
Yeah.
He didn't say,
he didn't say what they were doing.
It could have been scissoring.
Teachers are a genre.
And he would never know that.
Yeah, right.
Exactly.
And then I saw the image and then I had jacked off to it.
And then so I sent Jack a message.
Me and my son are jerking off together in different rooms.
That's what the technology is for.
Yeah.
I'm glad he's taken, you know, him and his, you know, his, his
mother and I, we split, but, and I, and I got remarried and he, he actually seems really
close with his stepmother, at least based on what I'm seeing on all these searches.
Yeah.
She walked in on him the other day.
Yeah, exactly.
And decided to teach him, teach him how it really works.
I actually jerk off, which I, so that it sent me an image of that.
I wonder, I wonder how his son has figured out to
get around the technology to be able to watch porn because you know he has yes it's just so
fucking clean reports it's the dumbest shit in the world because it's like it it is it's just
like look first of all just let the kid jack off like he's not into this like you right you know what i mean he wants to
jack off like let him figure it out like uh you know i was able before phones i was able to find
naked fucking pictures you know what i mean yeah there are ways ripped like physical ripped out
pages from magazines that you like held on to like they were the dead sea scrolls or something
and you're like oh man that's all i got but like
also you could get a burner phone i'd imagine yeah you could just get a burner phone if he
has to jerk off mobily or whatever or use his friend's computer go to the library like adults do
what would be awesome if your dad was like hey man i want to set this up and you'll be
my accountability partner and then you just start just constantly jerking off until he's like, okay, I don't want to be here.
This is really disturbing,
man.
All right.
You wanted to see what's up,
what's going on in this part of town,
man.
Here it is.
I'm having a real asshole Renaissance dad.
But this is,
yeah,
I mean,
this is persistent across.
I,
I'm sure I'm missing some, but like the guy who created like ankle harnesses that would keep his hands on his ankles.
Right.
Yeah.
There's entire, like there's the, oh God, what was the sanatorium in Michigan called?
Yeah, the Kellogg one.
Battle Creek?
Yeah. in michigan called yeah the keller battle battle battle yeah like that that place was just a a
myriad of like ways not to jerk off like there were just there's just been there's been tons of
these right history of people just like how can we not do this and it all comes out like you said
this is from the um the religious uh promise keepers which we did an episode on but it all
comes out of that because it's just them talking to each other and they don't realize everyone else is like no that's crazy but they're
just in their little group and they're like yeah we shouldn't be jerking off right and everyone else
so no it's it's good what's so great about the male body is that if you don't jerk it off
in your sleep it will fucking jerk you off like you can't get away from it like you can't
tell me that's not part of god's plan if i go to sleep and my penis is like we're gonna ejaculate
tonight like what is the line here if i touch it it's wrong like my brain is jacking my dick off
at night right yeah yeah back to those preppers who are trying to figure out if the gas and the
drums is still good it's like no man you got to get rid of that and refill. Yeah, get it out.
Yeah, get it out, man.
Refresh, refresh.
Holy shit.
Yeah.
It's just like, was that machine, though?
Like, I know you were calling it the Hankel machine, I think,
Gareth, in the show.
But, like, was that, like, an articulated device, like,
that we knew what it was?
Or is that some custom work?
No, I think really he just had a thing that he could clamp his hands to his ankles right so he yeah
he was like bet so he must have slept like bent over like in a really painful terrible position
and yeah i'm sure he had a horrible back aches but uh but yeah so it was like a clamping your
sure you had a horrible back aches but uh but yeah so it was like a clamping your like shackles night jackals yeah jackals yeah
wackles and of course probably people who just wanted to jag off more than anybody else and
assumed everybody else was struggling with this same issue right and so yeah yeah but
yeah i mean and it is like the fact that it's how we got like so much breakfast cereal in an
indirect way graham crackers is just like i don't know we we let we let ourselves remember puritanism because you know people
like trying to be puritanical about sex and you know stuff like that but i think there's just
like something so inherently embarrassing about about people just being like get stop jacking off
over here like let's bring you with water yeah spray me with cold cold water. I think it just gets memory old.
The graham cracker thing and the
grape nuts thing is just crazy.
They really thought a food would stop them from jerking off.
It didn't work.
Obviously, they keep
eating him and everyone's like, no, I'm still
hard as a rock.
It's still happening.
The fact that he needs
a fucking app.
It really is.
It's so I never know what that line is, because it's like, well, you have the compulsion to do it.
Why is where's the line on what, you know, God has created and what is your own sinful way? Like, right.
It's created.
Shouldn't you?
Shouldn't you shouldn't
you just not want to jack off like if yeah but that's how we're tested we're tested with sin
you know yeah it's like such a weird bizarre flesh video game i guess yeah well because it's also
just like at the end of the day like whether it's puritans or cereal makers or mike johnson it's
like this weird denial of humanity that's like dude you guys are keep you're just going to
the next thing so back at those times you're like i need leather straps and then the next
yeah thing was like what if we ate these fucking crackers and it's like no and now it's like an app
i don't know anything but acknowledging the humanity like look yeah man we don't jack off
there's probably more problems in the streets period Period. A real problem. Yeah. I think for a lot of these guys, though, it's more about what they actually, what turns them on.
Like, you know, they get in there and they're like, well, hold on.
This dick and balls is kind of nice.
And then they start to dig out.
No, they legislate against gay marriage and all that stuff.
I mean, if you really think about, like, the Republican Party, the leader of it was a pedophile like in the 2000s.
And it was just like confirmed, confirmed fucking pedophile.
And we don't ever look back on that like, hey, maybe these people protest too much.
Yeah, right.
Right.
We're just like, wow, that's our kids.
Yeah.
Well, that sucks. All right. Anyway, we have an app now where your son knows you're not beating off. Yeah. too much you know yeah right yeah right we're just like wow that's our kids yeah well that
sucks all right anyway we have an app now where your son knows you're not beating off yeah all
right all right let's move on to this this was one that we noticed recently with the caitlin
clark first press conference oh god where she she'd just been drafted number one wmba
had either recently or was about to sign a massive like lebron james sized deal with nike or not
lebron james size but you know a massive deal and she had her first press conference at her new team in Indiana. And like one of the journalists was like flirty with her.
Yeah.
Like, oh, yeah, I like you.
You keep doing that.
We're going to get along just fine.
And everyone's like, fucking gross, man.
The heart symbol I do to my family after the game.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We do that.
That's fine.
Yeah.
I like how he laughed, though, too.
And you could tell, like, based on he laughed though too and you could tell like the
like based on how the mic was you could tell he's like turning like his head for laughs like right
no a woman with a sporting instrument yeah
yeah i mean there's also the women's world cup player getting like a forced celebration kiss from one of their coaches.
Oh, yeah, Spain.
Like then they had to resign.
But I was, you know, re-listening to the Boston Marathon episode that you guys did about the first women to run the Boston Marathon.
And, you know, the first woman kind of does it in secret.
And then the second woman, like kind of people catch on pretty early and it becomes
this massive real world reenactment of mad max fury road where there's like this guy who's just
chasing her around the 26 mile course like in a bus like trying to take her out and try to tackle
her yeah but after she's successfully completed it,
there's this quote from a race official who's like,
we need rules.
Basically, if that girl was my daughter, I'd spank her.
And again, like, just wildly embarrassing.
But like, almost certainly said with at least three quarters of an erection.
You know?
Like, just, what are you talking
about? But it, I don't know. It just feels like this is a consistent trend that we see where
specifically in the, on the field of play, like that is where men like really just like put their
foot down and they're like nope no that not not on my
watch we cannot have impressive athletic feats we must find a way to sexualize and diminish you
right or just like reset that to be like and i'm the man and i'm get to say this shit to you even
though you may be one of the greatest basketball players of all time but anyway you right well it's
very weird in a country that like claims that capitalism is going to show you you know let capitalism rule and all
that we're also like it shows the fragility of the male ego to be like but not that because
she's a woman but that's been going on like we did another episode it wasn't about sports but
it's about women wearing pants and running oh and like, you know, they were like before they were like, it's just always been something.
It's like you can't if it literally they were like, if women run, they're like uteruses will drop out.
Yeah.
Like there's no connection to reality.
That's not really necessary.
It's always just like, you know, we're doing this for your own good, sweetheart.
Right.
Yeah.
But yeah, the way that a reporter feels comfortable
talking to a woman, I mean,
it is shocking. I mean, I guess at least
we're shocked by it, and we're not,
and it's not like a bunch of guys
smoking cigarettes being like, go on a date with her,
lady. Come on, toots.
Date the man. He made the heart symbol.
I'm sure he's married. he's only 40 years older but yeah yeah he's got wisdom but it's totally a theme totally
yeah in this country it's wild though too i was like just thinking about the oops my uterus fell
out kind of like myth that persists in like sports. And there's an example in 2010,
this guy,
Jan Franco Casper,
who is the head of the international ski Federation,
like doubled down on a thing he said in 2005.
They're like,
now what were you saying about ski jumping and women?
And basically was saying like,
it's not appropriate for ladies from a medical point of view,
because again,
the impacts could be so jarring
that the uterus is dislodged.
But that's like, you could say,
but like you could very easily be like
a man could rupture his scrotum.
You know what I mean?
A guy could ruin his balls skiing too.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, I guess anything can happen.
That shows like the sort of patriarchal nature
of being like, well, I'm looking out
for your one value that you have to society, which is to reproduce. And if, if, if I don't do that, then I failed as a protector or
controller. I don't know. It's up to you how you want to describe that. Yeah. Immediately imagine
a scenario where she's your daughter. You fucking creep. Yeah. Yeah. I wouldn't let her ski. Yeah,
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I think this is pretty common throughout. I was reminded of it in the most recent episode, the Gunawatska episode, where one of the other Hall of Fame side characters was a guy who kept like making up these inventions that were
scientifically impossible and the scientists would be like that's scientifically impossible
and then they the mainstream media would be like gee a death ray hot damn they just they just
insisted on being impressed and being like yeah but could you imagine if it was real?
And that's been happening.
So like this show, The Daily Zeitgeist,
we started like, and very early on,
the Havana syndrome happened,
which like that we, so from the start,
we've, you know, looked into the science,
read that the weapons they're
talking about are scientifically impossible and i've just been fucking blown away by how
it just keeps coming back like 60 minutes like six years after we've been like yes 60 minutes
was like all these all these people you like, you're a legitimate news organization.
This is totally fake.
And they're like,
man,
this thing's really fucking people up.
We've,
we've paid people who say they have it a tremendous amount of money to pick up
the pieces and figure it out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Truly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No,
it's ludicrous. There a ton i mean musk's whole thing is like
just like every every year he's like we're gonna have the the the car taxis the robot car taxis
johnny cab six six months and it's been going on for like 15 years he just they're just constantly
saying stuff that's not real his neuro implant is crazy if you read all the science about it are like, no, we've had that for a while and we're way advanced on that.
And he's just like, I'm doing this new thing.
And you're like, I'm not doing a new thing.
Right.
And the media is like, Musk is doing this new thing.
Hey, Musk is doing new thing.
Read a fucking article first.
He's got it.
He says he's gonna solve
autonomy with it because Tesla
is no longer an automobile company
they're an AI robotics company
you're like nice fucking pivot jerk off
just because the profits
fell 55% you're like well actually
dude this is never a car company to begin
with actually it's an AI robotics company so
fuck you it's like shut up
no he's such a jerk
off mike johnson gets an alert on his phone every time it's like are you looking up tesla
are you looking up minutes from the tesla shareholders call yeah yeah i also had that
guy down for yeah just very musky and vibes because like he invents a death ray and everyone's
like cool and then everyone's like no it's impossible and and everyone's like, cool! And then everyone's like, no, it's impossible.
And then he's like, well, I've invented this other technology
that is also impossible.
And they just move on to being impressed by that,
ignoring the thing.
What do we call that?
If we had to describe that trend, what do we call it?
Just like the media's willingness to be wowed
the second someone has an idea that seems that's
see that's already too silicon artist yeah there it is i mean they want they want the next big
story and they kind of don't care what it is or if it's real and they can just scream about it
and everyone goes wow and they read it and they buy the paper and then they've made their money
for that week and then they go to the next thing it's very similar to war you know when we get led into war it's like they're not
asking the big questions about why or specifics or long term or anything like that they just want
us to get into it right and then that is interesting and then you know when you're like
hey you know we've killed a million babies in the middle east over the past 10, you know, when you're like, hey, you know, we've killed a million babies in the Middle East over the past 10 years.
You know, they're like, well, not really much room in the paper for that right now.
Yeah.
Nobody could have saw that coming.
Nobody could have saw that coming.
Yeah.
The 30-page feature about smart bombs and how smart they are.
Yeah, right.
And how they can, like, deliver a pizza through a tiny window if you ask them to.
Well, and they have no accountability for the fact that they led you.
When you think of Elizabeth Holmes or Sam Bankman-Fried,
they have no...
They bolster this bullshit,
and then when they're covering the downfall,
it's a very quick report, like we're saying.
Nobody gets in trouble.
Well, Elizabeth Holmes did get in trouble right well elizabeth holmes did
get in trouble but that's only because she ripped off rich people but like the juicero guy yeah
right just made a bunch of money and then pivoted to his next bullshit thing but juicero was just
exactly what you're talking about like he yes essentially made a contraption that poked a hole
in a bag and juice squeezed it out yeah like that's that's all it was
yeah how did you do it juice in a bag exactly it's like but you gotta use it like fucking now
or they're like you gotta you it works off your wi-fi it's like all these little like terms are
like okay my patented capri Sun bladder, juice bladder
technology.
Wait, you just...
This one tastes like the guy with the
fucking windsurfer on it.
Yeah.
I figured I'd make Capri Sun
really expensive.
Right, exactly.
You don't have to use your hand to squeeze it
anymore. To be be fair have you
ever tried to put a straw in a capri sun i mean we are having fun the bottom that is you know what
i mean yeah a lot of the real bottom is good yeah that's for the real pissed off kids would be like
the fucking thing just in the fucking bottom you know the feeling when you would do the back
puncture too and you'd be like i gotta drink half of this right now oh yeah when it went through
a lot of pressure to
get this situation figured out asap that's a through and through bullet wound right there
i got an exit straw yeah yeah exactly but like i mean but yeah it's like the same thing with ai now
because every time we talk about ai like when we talk to experts they're like man it's just
fucking bullshit man they're just fucking pumping people up and there's also just a group of people who
are business leaders who know fuck all about technology and someone gets from like hey whoa
whoa this shit can fuck a lot name something watch this this is a song about your family
to the in the as is if peter tosh did it and they're like holy shit this can replace human
labor and you're like guys they're fucking they're selling you fucking horse shit right now but
yeah we still get right yeah it was easy to get caught up.
I mean, we were so, I mean, I was personally just like,
what the fuck, dude?
It's going to end the fucking world.
And then I did speaking with like people
who know what the fuck was going on.
I was like, oh, right.
Yeah, it's not anywhere near what,
like I truly believe,
like show business is kind of shut down right now.
I don't know if people know that,
but like nothing's really being made.
Everyone's kind of freaking out. Like, what are we doing? And I think it's because all the top guys are like of shut down right now. I don't know if people know that, but like nothing's really being made. Everyone's kind of freaking out.
Like,
what are we doing?
And I think it's because all the top guys are like,
we got AI now.
We don't need these fucking people.
We're going to,
everything's going to make it on its own.
And I think they,
they've just been sold a bill of goods by a bunch of guys like
hucksters who were like,
yeah,
you can do everything with it,
but you can't.
And these rich guys don't know.
They don't know shit.
Yeah.
No,
when you don't,
especially in business
or government i mean it's so that's what's so funny about the elizabeth holmes thing when you
actually see like her list of clients you're like a lot of these are like the people we herald as
the societal geniuses of our time right but but when you like when you look at our politics they're
just old they're really fucking old.
And so they don't really know.
The only reason why they want to get rid of TikTok is because they know.
I mean, it's so funny that an old government is like, we're going to take your phone away.
That'll stop the bleeding.
Yeah, like that.
They're like, that's why you've become such a rebel. Yeah.
But they don't know.
I mean, I always think of that clip of Ted Stevens, the senator from Alaska, who was on like the whatever, the senatorial like Internet Commission or whatever the fuck they call it.
And he's up there explaining the Internet.
A series of tubes.
It's a series of tubes is a series of tubes
I mean it's like you watch Bill and Ted
and he was like that's the internet
and that is like
pretty much it's that is not
the reason why that moment is so hilarious
is because it is like
it's like we've condensed
down the problem with
the system which is that the elderly
are trying to explain tech to us.
Yeah.
But that's just,
that's all it is.
They just have no fucking idea.
They have no clue.
When I,
when we podcasting,
we had a patent troll
come after us at one point.
So.
Yeah.
A bunch of us put together money
and it was like $60,000
and we had lawyers go up to,
what is it?
The EFF or whatever it's called.
They went up to, you know, Congress or whatever it's called they went up to
you know congress to talk to people and i got on the phone with one of them and i was just so how's
it going she goes i'm i'm mostly just trying to explain to him what email is like they just don't
know what's happening they're all old and people do stuff for them because they're also rich
so it's just like yeah they have no fucking clue what's happening and of course they get can get
taken in by a woman who's like i found a blood machine that does everything and they're also rich. So it's just like, yeah, they have no fucking clue what's happening. And of course they can get taken in by a woman who's like,
I found a blood machine that does everything.
And they're like, oh, great.
Put it in Walgreens.
Yeah.
I don't like when they prick my finger.
Is this the same lady who made the death ray?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Blood stuff now.
Cool.
Yeah.
And it's so frustrating that like the those
are the people who are supposed to be holding at like the villain of our time like mark zuckerberg
like oh yeah yeah he gets to be like uh we sell ads senator and like be the like smart guy in the
room and it's just like no there should be like somebody who actually understands what the fuck
is going on who could like someone talk to this person?
I feel like with tech, like you have to have at least politicians who are the same age as the people they're talking to.
So when they start spinning their bullshit, even if they don't, they're like, I think this guy's full of shit, to be honest.
He sounds like full of shit people.
I know my age, but to an older person, like, oh, they were so kind and charismatic.
You're like, oh, fuck.
Yeah.
No, you have like a Dianne Feinstein up there and her like eyes falling out
because she's so old and you're like, that can't help anybody.
I don't know what the fuck is happening.
But that situation in particular, I think we were all proven wrong.
She was ready to continue her journey.
That's right.
Yeah.
I mean, it's almost not even worth like bringing up because
it's such a one-to-one but like the no it is the kids who are wrong response that we're getting
to student protesters right now like that i mean it doesn't just rhyme with history it is
history repeating itself full-on yeah i just want to recommend the people
the guy that deaf president now protest episode that you guys oh yeah but it's yeah it's just
people in power who like the president of a university is far closer to a senator than they
are to even a faculty member you know like that the they have board meetings where they're
you know like there's one point where they are being confronted by student protesters
and the chairman of the board because they've just like repeatedly ignored student requests
for to have a deaf president they just keep appointing hearing presidents and they're like you guys
have to understand we made our decision you already fucked up our schedule and now we have
private planes to catch like essentially it's like how they put it and it's like thank god for that
one moment of like honesty from that person who just like couldn't have been a bigger
psycho but yeah it feels like it's the entire thing right right well every institution there
are people who are like please put someone in a position of power that inherently understands what
we are experiencing yes right we can't hear you all right so the new head of diversity is this
white guy and yeah hey dude he's been to
jamaica though you know what i mean so like he even got one of those braids miles yeah yeah yeah
show that picture yeah yeah but like that's yeah but every in so many different ways like that
whole thing is this always constantly repeating and repeating and repeating because i mean i
guess this shows when it comes to sort of like power and things like that there's just like no
man i'm not gonna try to fucking make this equitable.
It's like, it's for, it's for this group of people.
Fuck off.
Yeah.
It's only for this group of people.
And what they're, they're also this attitude where they're just like, well, you don't really
understand how this works.
Right.
And you're like, well, no, I'm in it.
So I know exactly how it works because I'm experiencing it.
No, it's really, it's, you know, but this is like, I mean, this goes back centuries, right?
Just old people, not understanding young people.
I think it's much worse now though, because I think young people are far more informed than they ever have been due to the internet.
Although they want, they want to blame TikTok, but it's like, no, it's pretty much all the internet.
People can see it all tiktok is ticked if they were trying to take a leg out tiktok is
a very smart one to take out because there is like the sharing that goes on on that platform
is i mean you just can tell they're more informed because they're informing each other with these
well thought out points that i don't like it It feels like for some reason it just is.
I mean,
I guess for reasons we probably know,
but they,
they are clearly getting better information from tick tock than they are from
any fucking cable news from any major media publication from any of that
shit.
And I,
I have this guilty pleasure of sometimes when i get up i watch
morning joe and um and this morning it was un-fucking-believable like i probably turned
out like 6 45 in the morning and it was like he was shouting shouting about what they're doing
and why it's wrong and if you're not not careful, you're going to help get Trump elected.
The way that they continue to put everyone in the worst position possible.
And then with two out, two on bottom of the ninth, you're about to lose the game.
They're like, we need to, we got to figure this out.
You're like, buddy, we tried to avoid this at all costs.
Like, yeah, we get it forever we've been
talking about like this is not a good call but you know that is they they clearly fear that shit
and they're also so fucking stupid because the better plan for them would be to ignore this shit
and not mention you know just to talk but instead they're engaging and they're we're sharing clips of
police fucking throwing professors down and all this shit so yeah yeah the mainstream media will
cover any violence if the protest has any element of violence anything yeah they'll miss the point
yeah yeah yeah when i was in school which was centuries centuries ago, the Gulf War happened.
So that's before the Iraq War, right?
That's the one where we go into Kuwait.
The Amuzbush.
The Amuzbush.
And it was the same thing.
We were all protesting, but we didn't have the internet or phones.
But we just photocopied shit and everyone passed it around.
So everyone had the information.
It's no different.
Everyone read it and was like, yeah, this is fucking bullshit.
Like, it was the same stuff. They think they're going to stop it. It's no different. Everyone read it and was like, yeah, this is fucking bullshit. Like, it was the same stuff.
They think they're going to stop it.
It's not possible.
They really are.
Yeah.
Because they all watch CNN and they watch MSNBC and they just are there completely detached from reality.
They have no idea what's happening.
The internet is a series of tubes.
Yes.
And we can get the information to each other through these tubes. Right. Right. I mean, I think that's one of of tubes. And we can get the information to each other through
these tubes.
If you shut one of those tubes.
The other thing is, the Democrats, at least the
Republicans are so craven, they're like,
you play out what their rhetoric is to the end
game, it's like, yeah, it's fascism, baby.
And even with neoliberals,
it's the same thing, but they're like,
no, but we care about people, we care about
the environment. So you tell people these values that you supposedly have and they're like yeah man i
gotta take care of people and then when they're like hold on you guys aren't doing the fucking
thing that you guys claim that you're all about shut the fuck up man shut up you're gonna get
trump if you're not fucking careful right and then it's just sort of like you you can't you
can't espouse these values especially when their party is so ideologically rigid that it can't espouse these values, especially when their party is so ideologically rigid that it can't break through to the other side, obviously, because they're not going to be like, yeah, we need to blow up the status quo.
Because they like talking about like sort of these like entrenched problems we have societally, but they only want to talk when it comes to the solution part.
It's like, come on, man.
We just we're the ones that talk about it, that it's bad.
We keep sending problem solvers to the government to fix
it, and then they become part of the problem.
So clearly, you know,
that route ain't fucking working.
Yeah. Hope and change, asterisks.
Yeah. And look,
because right now what you said is
true. The Republicans
are basically the party of fascism,
and the Democrats are the party of betrayal.
Those are the two parties.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
Which leads to fascism.
Right.
Yes.
But at least it fascism like later though.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's like their sales pitch.
It's like,
well,
fascism in like five years.
Yeah.
Oh,
one,
one trend that we have lost over time.
That's very prevalent.
The dollop is bringing rotten vegetables to crowd events.
It's incredible.
But would that help?
I mean, food's too costly.
People can't afford tossing vegetables.
You know what I mean?
We're eating those vegetables we should be tossing now.
What did the guy in Australia throw at the politician?
Was it an egg or something?
It was recent.
Yeah, it was an egg.
It was an egg.
He's like an egg boy or something.
I strongly believe that throwing
rotten vegetables should come back.
Totally.
It's a huge,
it's just really important.
It still happens in other countries.
Like dildos fly in on drone copters and milkshakes and all that stuff.
But the U.S. has...
We still get a pie every now and then.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
But it needs to happen.
The truth is that you see it every now and then.
When they go out to fucking dinner, they should be fucking yelled at.
You know, all of them not not even saying just like you know all of them should everyone who is complicit in
the the terrible society we live in today which is pretty much all of them yeah should be should
not be able to have public peace and let's start there but you know eventually that won't even be
enough but yeah they they like anyone else don't want to feel embarrassed and stupid right and so
yeah if you are doing that shit where you're pouring like old milk on them or whatever the
fuck it is that that does affect them for now but yeah and it would be fun it'd be fun it'd be super
fun one one of the reasons that they that they do what they do is so they can go hang out with rich people and go to the fancy restaurants and go to the fancy parties.
But if you make them uncomfortable outside and then they can't do that, they might change.
Like, it's really just like a big club to them.
And if you make the club an uncomfortable place, then they could change.
I doubt they will but
they could i mean they'll just build bigger fences but yeah start or like that i remember when like
susan collins like they're like hey man you could have maybe like maybe supported abortion rights
and people like wrote in chalk in front of her house like like hey that was an attack she called
the fucking cops you know what i mean like well Well, it's also when people were outside Brett Kavanaugh's house and Amy Coney Barrett's place and shit like that.
And you have these fucking people who are like, look, I get it.
You're mad.
But there are rules.
And you're like, buddy, shut the fuck up.
Yeah, you're lucky they're just standing on Kavanaugh's fucking lawn.
Yeah, 100%.
I'm sorry, what's the social contract they're
abiding by exactly when it comes to people's
body? Yeah, you can go break into someone's house
and yank them out of bed, but we can't
fucking, the guy, the people who are...
Please don't play a drum in the street.
Oh, God.
They're back with the drums, honey.
He has no rhythm and that is an efface to him that's embarrassing to him let him get back to
bragging to his friends about the latest clean report he got about his son not jacking off
yeah that's right yeah amazing well guys i feel like we could talk to you for days but we really
appreciate you coming on congratulations again on 10 years of greatness.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Where, uh, where can people find each of you, uh, follow each of you, all that good stuff.
By the way, our 10 year anniversary episode was filmed and we'll be up.
You can buy it for like six months.
It's about Jim Caviezel and it's amazing.
Wow.
Uh, he's really normal yeah yeah yeah oh man
and then uh the doll podcast and you can find uh me dave underscore anthony underscore instagram
any word the doll podcast uh.com is where we are we're going on tour to Australia next week. Yep. So go to dollapodcast.com for all that shit.
We have a Patreon and we have a shitload of content up there and you can follow me at Reynolds Gareth.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But yeah, thanks for having us on.
A pleasure.
Yeah.
Is there a work of media that you guys have been enjoying?
Can be a tweet, a film, TV show, anything like that?
You know, do you know what happened last night?
I watched a new, it just came on Shudder, this French film that's like a spider horror movie about a spider infestation.
And it freaked me out so much that I wasn't screaming, but my wife said I was like going, oh, in the middle of the night.
I was like going, oh, in the middle of the night.
She woke me up because the dream I was having that there was one spider on my head and I took it off.
And then I started shaking my hair and all these spiders started coming.
Oh, fuck.
No.
So you're saying too much.
Infested.
I recommend Infested on Shudder.
Yeah.
All right.
Holy shit. on shutter yeah all right holy shit actually i just watched uh white house plumbers which is a
five-part hpo show yeah with uh justin um i said justin trudeau thoreau their names shouldn't be
that i know and uh and woody harrelson about watergate and it is if people like the dollop or people like history, it's such a great,
funny recreation of,
of that.
And,
and you're not supposed to watch stuff like that.
Remember?
I know.
Yeah,
I know.
Yeah.
Oh,
and also I watched a hundred beavers.
Is it called?
Have you seen that?
That's a porn,
right?
It's a porn.
Yeah.
Mike,
I just said it to Mike Johnson.
Oh,
that's it.
I'll leave it there.
Anyway,
I was going to say,
don't watch that.
Cause everyone was recommending that to me. And I watched Johnson. That's it. I'll leave it there. Anyway, I was going to say don't watch that because everyone was recommending that to me
and I watched it.
It's insane.
Is that about the beavers that were dropped?
No, no.
It's this weird...
I can't remember what the fuck it's called.
It's...
Don't watch it.
Yeah.
Don't watch the thing you don't know the name of?
That's right.
Pretend I never spoke
or pretend I spoke.
Either way, it's equal influence.
Amazing. Miles, where can people find you? what's the work of media you've been enjoying
find me
on twitter instagram
at miles of gray and yeah
pretty much where they got at symbols if you like
basketball check Jack and I out on
miles and Jack I'm at boosties
where I've made my peace with the Lakers season
I don't care if we won. Another great podcast.
Yeah.
Gareth, you've been on as well.
Yeah, that was awesome.
You joined us at the beginning of last year.
And then also I talk shit about 90 Day Fiance
on 420 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexander.
So check that shit out too.
Yeah, yeah.
Work in media?
Work in media.
Honestly, just seeing all the footage of student protests
is really heartening for me like
everything i mean obviously not like the shitty police violence part but like seeing places like
my alma mater and like other campuses just activate so quickly and like reminds you it's not the
fucking app that showed you how to hack airplane airline tickets that did it it's a sense of
humanity that people share and that's what's connecting people and airline tickets that did it. It's a sense of humanity that people share
and that's what's connecting people and I think that's
it's heartening to see and I just
fucking hope that the people who can actually do something
about it fucking do something about it.
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might enjoy? Oh, I'm really liking this
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They're like a four-piece and they're a live
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they have an album which is like all just golden golden era hip hop instrumentals that they're recreating.
Oh, yeah. We were listening to that before.
Yeah. So let me see.
Yeah. Like maybe we'll go out on the Tribe Called Quest one.
This is Electric Relaxation by OMA.
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