The Daily Zeitgeist - White House For Sale, B***h I’m A Cow! 8.15.18
Episode Date: August 15, 2018In episode 212, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Danielle Radford to discuss 'Moo' aka the song of summer, Nicki Minaj's latest album and her Twitter beef with her Ex, Tuesday's Primary Election ...results, Omarosa revealing audio of President Trump saying the N-word, the last day of the Paul Manafort trial, MoviePass is trading at 5 cents, and More!FOOTNOTES:1. Nicki Minaj Unfazed By Twitter War With Safaree2. The Summer’s Most Important Wind Down Is ‘Mooo!’ by Doja Cat3. 2018 House Race Ratings4. Diverse candidates rule the night and other takeaways from Tuesday's primaries5. Democrats Discard Washington Platform in Bid for House Control Image6. Omarosa reveals audio of Trump campaign aides allegedly discussing potential fallout of N-word7. Reports: Trump Campaign Files Arbitration Against Omarosa8. ‘People are terrified’: Trump staffers live in fear of Omarosa’s next tape9. Manafort defense reminds jurors of government's high burden of proof10. Sarah Sanders apologizes for false claim about African-American jobs11. Prosecution presents closing arguments in Manafort trial12. MoviePass just lost $132 a share and it's trading at 5¢13. Paul Manafort trial Day 12: Defense argues government failed to prove guilt Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 44, Episode 3 of The Daily Zeitgeist.
internet and welcome to season 44 episode 3 of the Daily Zeitgeist for Wednesday August 15th 2018 my name is Jack O'Brien aka the Jack Dad I'll make ya jump jump I'm Daddy Jack I'll make
ya jump jump Zeitgang I'll make ya jump jump uh-huh uh-huh and I'm thrilled to be joined as
always by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray! Slop on Miles Knob.
Braised corn on the cob.
Jack in with me.
O'Brien, get your job.
Lay in your bed.
Hear what I said.
Zeitgang will ask.
Zeitgang will beg.
OK, 3-6 Mafia.
That was from Melissa Jordan at Pygmy Hippie.
Big 3-6 fan right there. But yeah, relevant anyway.
So yes, thank you to you for that, AK.
And Jack also.
It was courtesy of Henry D. Hunter.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I'm glad you have your cross-colored outfit on.
I know.
Yeah, backwards as well.
So, you know, representing.
And your erasism hat.
You remember that shit?
I had that.
My dad had us laced in eracism here.
Man, I know I'm not supposed to tuck it, but remember those knowledge is the key, man?
Yep.
Yep.
I had so much cross-colored gear.
It's just really woke.
I can't.
The idea of young Jack O'Brien, the kid, wearing the cross-colored, like black and yellow overalls
type outfit.
Woo!
Mm-hmm.
It takes every types of people to make the world go round.
The shirt that I had.
Oh, really?
It was like written in like, you know, all misspelled all over the place.
I love that.
I love that.
The two was, you guessed it, the number two.
The number two.
Well, we're thrilled to have a very funny stand-up comedian,
wrestling aficionado, and professional nerd, Danielle Radford.
Oh, hello. AKA Three nerd Danielle Radford aka three phones Radford
yeah
or just one
just super safe
phone case
yes
it's a transformer
yeah exactly
it transforms from
something I can drop
into something I definitely can
you can be panic
if you do
Danielle
it is great to have you with us
thank you so much for having me
again I'm sorry
I know I'm supposed to wait
until I get introduced
but that was like
Ross colors
oh I'm jumping in oh yeah yeah it's like double Again, I'm sorry. I know I'm supposed to wait until I get introduced, but that was like cross-colored, so I'm jumping in.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like double Dutch.
I'm like, it's got to
be Dutch.
Is that coming back?
I feel like if FUBU
has come back.
Has FUBU come back?
Well, Urban Outfitters
bought the rights to
have FUBU on stuff,
which also, like,
young kids out there,
don't let me catch you
wearing FUBU if you're
not us.
It's for us.
Buy us.
Even I had trouble
wearing FUBU because
I was half black right i
was like damn is it for me too though yeah well and i lived in hawaii during all of that stuff
and so it was definitely one of those things where it was like there would be these fights
between like locals and black folks but everyone could like oh for real over fubu um over oh just
like just generally well over over the fact that most of the black folks and white folks who were there were people who were brought on base, which is like, you know, we're literal symbols of like colonization that you sit next to in class and cheat notes off of.
Fucking holey.
Fucking hallies.
But, you know, I was nice.
People, we got along.
And I wore my bright blue cross color shorts for way too long.
I wore them probably a year past expiration.
I wore them to the point where one of my friends had to take me aside and say, you have to retire the cross-colors.
Because I was never like a fashion person.
I was just like, look.
You're like, I like these shorts.
Yeah, and I really embraced that very tomboyish aesthetic that everyone was doing.
Also, I looked exactly like this at like 12.
Like thinner because I was 12, but I've been tall with a big booty and boobs forever.
I've had this face forever.
I will have this face forever.
Yeah, you will, yes.
I will have this face forever.
Sarah Huckabee Sanders style.
Yeah.
We just looked at a baby photo
of her baby photos sanders everybody should look is she my portrait of dorian gray almost yeah
where it's like she just ages she's starting i never will she has sarah huckabee sanders current
face photoshopped onto a baby's body yeah uh in this picture it's incredible um all right so were
you an army brat military brat nice? Mm-hmm. Nice.
How long were you in Hawaii for?
Oh, we did it twice.
Okay.
So I was there from kindergarten until second, I believe.
And then we went back for sixth through freshman year, which is the longest we'd been anywhere.
It was four years.
Okay.
Yeah.
Nice.
Not bad.
Not a bad place to be.
It is if you're a child okay yeah
because you can't really go anywhere yeah like there's no it's not super easy to get around
off base and also the mud is clay and so it stains everything oh shit yeah and so you have to be
really careful about what and when you're older it's. You know, when I was 11 and 12 and 13, it was fine.
But when I was a kid, you like want to be a kid and play in the mud, except that mud doesn't come out of clothes.
Right, right, right.
Just because of the fact that it is like volcanic ash, essentially.
Everything's just mud colored.
Everything.
Those blue cross colored shorts by the end of it were just.
They're just brown.
Yeah.
All right.
Before we get to know you a little bit better, let's tell our listeners what
they're in store for. We are going
to talk about the song
of the summer. It's official.
Yes!
It's not
from Nicki Minaj, even though her album dropped
this week. It's a shame.
It is from Doja Cat.
We are going to talk about the primaries that happened last night. Some takeaways. We're going to talk about Omarosa, a.k.a. Lionel Messi. We are going to talk about Space Force, which we have been mocking roundly, just as a culture, but also on the show.
And why it might not be the stupidest idea, even though the idea is being brought forth for the stupidest of reasons.
And finally, we're going to check in with the stock that we've been screaming, buy, buy, buy on MoviePass.
Just check in with their their stock see how that's
going and you guys looked at but you're gonna love it you're gonna i'm ringing the alarm i already
i already put a down payment on a lamborghini right i don't need to see what the earnings
report was from this last quarter i know we are in the ascendancy i just believe in the model
you know uh but first daniel we like to our guests, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are?
The execution of the Romanoff family.
Wow.
Okay.
Go on.
So I do this thing where I will be obsessed with one kind of subculture or weird thing for a couple of months.
One time I was doing full-on deep dives into stand culture
particularly believers because i'm just like i need to understand how your brain works um
when gamergate happened i was very much like in there like i need to understand how this works
right now my biggest obsession is someone i'm not gonna say a name um but it is someone who
she used to be a comic and i used to know her. I met her a few times.
And so she kind of does this Instagram busking where she performs and does different things.
And that's how she kind of gets money.
Yeah.
And that's fascinating to me because it's both the first time I've ever seen someone really do that in that way.
Not in the same way of like, hey, I have a Patreon.
You can do it here.
Or, hey, i'm going live
on youtube and that will pay me somehow like a cam show yeah things like that it's literally she
does these live shows and these and she's always on instagram all day long and people will donate
to her paypal and some people are like it's a scam and some people are like it's not and so
that's really fascinating and then i found when i was watching the trailer for the Romanoffs, I was like, I understand what this is about, but why is this TV show so white?
So part of my kind of looking into, because there is a whole culture of people who claim to be descendants of that family.
Is it the Anastasia thing?
Yeah.
The whole Anastasia myth around that family.
Okay, right.
Yes. And so I went back and I did a bunch of reading. Because it's something I kind of already knew about.
But I just went and did a few deep dives on that.
Just so I could feel like I knew.
Yeah, what's really going on.
What's really going on.
So what is the relation between the former stand-up comedian Busker and the Romanoff family?
Just different subcultures of people who are 100% invested in something
in the same way that Stan culture is
or everyone, people involved with Gamergate
on either side, this 100% investment
with the internet busker, you have people
who spend all day telling people,
it's a scam, it's a scam, it's a scam,
don't donate, don't donate, and then you have
other people who are like, well, she might be mentally ill well she might be mentally ill she might be mentally ill so you
know help help help but either way you have all of these people who are devoting all day to following
the misadventures of this one person right yeah um and so that's kind of where the Romanoff thing
was interesting to me because there are people who insist and are obsessed with this family and insist that
they are descendants or from that.
Right.
Where most historians claim that they were all wiped out in that basement.
Right.
Yeah.
So the Romanovs were the royal family that got wiped out during the revolution in Russia
that led to communism and Soviet Russia.
It's easier to lie back then because there was no Internet.
I know, man.
That's the thing.
No one was live streaming it.
One of the most underrated scams that used to exist
is just walking into a room and being like,
yeah, I'm that guy.
I'm that guy's son.
I'm the president.
And people are like,
well, I've never seen the president.
Or I'm a Romanov.
I secretly got out.
My grandpa, when he was younger,
he used to look like Bill Cosby.
And he would get shit for free because people would think he was Bill Cosby in the 60s and 70s.
And he just didn't say shit.
And it wasn't good enough where people were like, hold on, let me hold this photo up.
I think a lot of people in restaurants are just like, you look somewhat like him.
You're also black.
You're Bill Cosby.
Word traveled very slow back then.
It'll be like when we're older and people our age are lying about being the dude who punched Richard
Spencer.
Yeah, exactly. You're like, yeah, that was me.
Don't look too closely
into that, but that was me.
Richard Spencer paid that dude to punch him, by the way.
Just so everybody knows.
Oh, do you know him?
Uh-oh.
Someone's Tinder bio?
Friends of friends know him.
Okay.
I do know the dude who poured coffee on Alex Jones.
Oh, yeah.
That's a wrestling guy, too, isn't he?
Yeah.
We were buds back in Seattle because we were both into wrestling.
I remember reading through that and being like, yo, this guy's a wrestling dude.
He's into wrestling.
Yeah.
And yeah, so apparently it was out.
If you look, you can find him.
Okay.
He is around. Who? The guy who punched Richard Spencer? Yeah, the Spencer it was out. If you look, you can find him. Okay. He is around.
Who, the guy who punched Richard Spencer?
Yeah, the Spencer puncher.
Okay.
Because there's also a picture of him getting punched earlier that day.
Well, maybe he paid that guy to do that.
Right.
But then the other one, the one we all know.
I thought he was basically like, I need to get punched in public.
And so they were staging this one.
And then he got on CNN. And he was like, oh, shit. Well, this is an even better opportunity to get punched in public and so they were staging this one and then he got on CNN and he was like
oh shit well this is an even better opportunity
to get punched it's just weird that he got punched
twice and the only one that people
publicize is the second one
well and what's funny also is that
like if it was a case where that happened
it backfired yeah right
because you see he got all like
carrot top swole after that
yeah right exactly for the reference is that after the
1-800 collect commercials where people would like
be shoving carrot tops into things
apparently it was happening to him
in real life where people would see him and try to
shove him into phone booths and shove him into different things
and that's why carrot top got super swole
I didn't realize that that was
the reason and so after that
Richard Spencer got carrotot Top swole.
Yeah, Carrot Top is the wrong one to fuck with now.
At least physically.
I'm like, oh, goodness.
I don't even want to joke around.
He is all HGH, allegedly.
Allegedly.
Wink, wink, wink, wink, wink, wink.
Dana, what is something that is overrated?
Breaking Bad.
Wow.
Didn't do it for me.
Okay.
I've tried several times to watch that show.
Just.
Not feeling it.
Not feeling it.
And I know everyone says that it's great.
I do think that all of the performances are amazing.
I just didn't, I didn't connect with it.
The subject matter, yeah.
Didn't.
Do you like any crimey show?
Like scumbaggy crook type shows?
Like criminal behavior type shows? Yeah, I'll get into some scumbaggy crook type shows, like criminal behavior type shows?
Yeah, I'll get into some scumbag shit.
You like The Sopranos?
No.
Okay.
Not super.
But I need to give that one another try.
I'm just trying to, because I'm looking at what also is on that tree, and if maybe that tree just doesn't even appeal to you.
But for some things, like for movies, love Goodfellas.
Right.
I loved the unofficial black sequel to goodfellas which
came out in the 90s wait which one was that uh menace of society oh okay well if you look at
the so the the brothers who made that movie they tell you yeah the hughes brothers tell you straight
out in the commentary like we just did goodfellas beat by beat oh amazing i didn't realize that
that's amazing um yeah so i do get into some scumbag stuff.
I just, those for some reason didn't really connect with me.
I do think that I'm at a point now, and this might be where it is, where when I was younger
because it was more of the standard things with all white casts, I was like, yeah, that's
just what shows are.
Right, right, right.
And as I've gotten older, I'm like, oh, you don't have to do that.
And so now when I look at something with an all white cast,
I kind of feel like it feels lazy.
Sure.
Because it's really easy to not do that.
And I feel like a lot of times people just don't realize that like the reason why white is the default was because it was decided it was the default.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sure.
And so it does become harder for me to get into shows that are all white cast right yeah um i am you know there are some
that do seem like super worth it um but it is i think a little more difficult to me just because
i know that you can not do that yeah i know that that's a choice right what is something you think
is underrated oh something i think is underrated is Oh, something I think is underrated is Sorry to Bother You.
All right.
Which is a really, really good movie.
And it's gotten some really good press, but most people have not seen it.
Even now, it's hard to see it in theaters if you want to.
It'll probably be out of theaters, I would assume, this weekend or the next weekend.
But it's a bummer because that's a movie that needs to be seen
in theaters because there's
so much to it visually
and it feels
like it would have been one of those movies
of the year had not and this isn't
I'm not shitting on superhero movies I love
superhero movies anybody who follows me knows
I love Black Panther I love
Infinity War I love I'm a huge
comic book fan but it, right, right.
But it feels like if this wasn't a year in which there were these two huge superhero movies, that would have been a contender for movie of the year.
Yeah, I mean, I loved it.
It was amazing.
It was surreal and so real at the same time.
Yep.
And the other thing that's, I think, underrated is the soundtrack by Tune Yards.
The score.
Yeah, that is,
I was just like,
what the fucking music is good?
Like it was scored
in a completely different way.
Yeah, shout out to Boots Riley
because yeah,
everybody should be seeing
that movie if you can.
All right.
And finally,
what is a myth?
What's something people think
is true that you know
to be false?
Oh, so I used to be a paralegal.
I can't say
literally everything about the judicial system or the legal system but basically everything about
the legal system one thing in particular that i feel like some people are starting to know that
most people don't is that myth about the hot coffee woman oh right the mcdonald's mcdonald's
yeah the idea that like oh well now they have to put the coffee is hot because people are so dumb that they don't know.
And someone won millions for it.
Like what happened was that it was proven that McDonald's had their coffee at a point which is like too hot for human ingestion.
Like 135 degrees or something?
Yeah.
It's something that you can't ingest as a person.
And so because the idea was, well, you're not going to drink it there.
They're going to take it.
And so we want it to still be hot when they get to their destination.
So when the lid wasn't properly secured and it went all over her lap, her burns were so
bad she had to get skin grafts.
Right.
Yeah.
And what was widely reported was that she got over $2 million for it.
That's not what wound up happening.
She wound up getting about $600,000 or something like that.
Right.
A lot of which just goes towards medical bills, which is something else people don't know.
That's not $600,000 that you get to just like hang out with
your medical bills have to be paid and your insurance doesn't pay them out when they know
you're in an active lawsuit and you get a settlement because why would they you got the
settlement so a lot of times insurance doesn't pay that um so whatever like use your winnings
exactly take care of yourself and so you know that is used as a case to be like, well, people are so greedy and everyone's so quick to sue and people are so stupid.
But it is one of those cases where you have to think who benefits by us thinking that people who sue for things that happen are stupid or lazy or grifters.
Because, you know, the corporations, they do good.
Right.
And it's these greedy people who be suing them all the time.
That's the problem.
For their stupid second and third degree burns.
Yeah, right.
They had to get skin grafts from probably her butt or whatever.
We're waking up, I think, from a culture that was just so run by corporations that the fact that our default was just like, yeah, this dumb woman's trying to bilk McDonald's.
McDonald's is probably the good guy in this story. It's pretty crazy.
But yeah, that was sort of the default urban legend
that I'm sure McDonald's,
I don't know if they officially had a part
in putting that out there, but I don't know.
It just seems weird that that was like
the way gravity worked in our minds back then.
What wound up happening is there was a,
because all of these stories came out and all of them made it seem like she was this grifter, it led to tort reform, which made it harder for people to be able to sue corporations for things like this.
So it did have a real world consequence by showing all of us.
Sometimes around elections and other things where you'll see buses of people being like, these attorneys are so greedy and here's how we can fix it.
And they don't tell you how.
And what it usually means is that it is backed by some corporation or a bunch of them or some super PAC that's fed by them that is saying essentially what they're trying to do is limit what attorneys can get back in attorney fees because if they do that, they know that attorneys will be less likely to take certain kinds of cases because a lot of these are on contingency.
So you do a lot of work and then you can sue for something that happened to you, a personal injury or other torts or whatever,
you're less likely to do it because you don't have the money.
So while people do complain about attorney's fees,
they wind up doing a lot of this work for free until the end.
Years worth sometimes, two years, three years. As I read it, the official temperature that McDonald's is telling all their franchises,
they needed their coffee at one up to but around between 180 and 190 degrees Fahrenheit.
Wow.
The boiling point of water is 212 degrees Fahrenheit.
So they were giving people near boiling coffee just to cruise around in.
Yeah.
And the insides of our mouths are what, like 96 point something?
Yeah.
Yeah.
98 degrees.
98 degrees.
Yes.
That's how I remember everything.
Thank you, Nick Lachey.
What a whack name for a band.
I didn't even realize that was just the body.
Not even like a fever.
It isn't even hot.
We are just about normal.
We have achieved homeostasis.
Girl, you like that room temperature?
That's what we bring in you.
Room temperature hits.
My tepid love.
Let's talk about Doja Cat.
Yes, please.
So the song Moo came out a few days ago, I guess?
Yeah.
Earlier this week.
It's called Moo.
It's so fucking good.
She is such an obvious star.
I feel like she's going to be very famous.
I don't know.
But it's so weird that this video breaks the day that Nicki releases her album
because Miles came in this morning and was like,
yeah, Song of the Summer, nobody's talking about Nicki.
When we were at the beginning of the week, we were like,
oh, Nicki's album's coming out.
That's a thing that's going to be happening in the zeitgeist this week.
Yeah,
because then everyone
started tweeting,
bitch,
I'm a cow,
moo,
and I'm like,
what the fuck is going on?
Moo.
Yeah.
Oh,
here,
let's play people
a little bit of a sample
right now.
Yes,
please.
Let's do it.
It's like taking
Valium through your ears.
Exactly.
Here we go. Bitch, I'm a cow. Bitch, I'm a ears. Exactly. Here we go.
Bitch, I'm a cow.
Bitch, I'm a cow.
I'm not a cat.
I don't say meow.
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Bitch, I'm a cow.
Bitch, I'm a cow.
Bitch, I'm a cow.
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Moo. Moo. Moo. Moo. Moo. Moo. Moo. Moo. Moo. Moo. So that's a little bit of Sam. We'll probably write out on this just because we have to. But yeah, the video- You would think that that would get old after a while, but it-
No.
It just doesn't.
It just doesn't.
There's something about the absurdity of just saying, bitch, I'm a cow.
And she's so, to steal a phrase from Kim Kardashian, she's so interesting to look at.
She's one of the most interesting-
You're not even interesting to look at.
Yeah.
She's from South Africa too.
I didn't realize she's a South African artist
who moved out here and very
artsy family. But the video is
wild too because it's just all
very aggressively
low budget green screen and
apparently she had Uber Eats to Burger
and a milkshake over and was like, alright, I'm gonna make a song.
Like a lot of
great hit
pop songs it was written and composed in like five hours i think she said and then the video took
like six hours i wonder if it's just because it's so accessible the idea of a cow you know we're so
we understand cows we understand milkshakes cheeseburgers her lyrics are so on point
talking about like farting methane
and stuff i'm like really like i respect the lyricism too that's the other thing is that
the lyrics are really really good and she also manages to like tip her hat to other really famous
songs um one of the lyrics which is great is like i don't live in this city because they ain't got
lungs like the rhymes are actually really good and incredibly clever.
And she, it's watching someone who is incredibly charming
and very, very talented just understand meme culture
and just make a song that's like,
I'm going to make the most memeable song
that anyone has ever heard.
And she nailed it.
It's the most effortless nailing of something
I've ever seen.
And it also shows you like
when you can just create from a place of just
total freedom and no expectation
the results can be incredible.
Because I don't think she was like being like no hold on
we gotta nail this like in the lab for like
nine months. It's sort of like no I felt
inspired and I just sort of went with that
and behold. I think this would be really
funny and so I did it and she was right.
It's hilarious and really genuinely right. It's hilarious. And really,
really genuinely good.
Yeah.
Moo.
Don't fart in methane,
okay guys?
Nikki's album's out.
It's pretty good.
I've heard two songs.
Yeah,
I've heard a couple songs.
It's pretty funny.
I think everyone's just talking
about Barbie Dreams, right?
Right,
Barbie Dreams
where she talks shit about
everybody.
Well,
and also the real beef of when Safari comes out and says where she talks shit about everybody. Well, and also
the real beef
of when Safari comes out
and said that
she tried to kill him.
Right.
Yeah.
So that's the other story
that everyone's talking about.
I think people
need to be talking about
that a little bit too.
Everyone's focused
on the hairline.
No one's focusing
on the attempted murder.
On the domestic violence
aspect of this
where he was saying
I had to lie to the police
and say I was trying
to kill myself
to keep you from going to jail.
I was like, oh.
And then he even says, like, when these things happen a few times.
Right.
It's time to bounce.
And you're like, whoa.
Okay.
But, yeah, again, everyone's like, yo, but his hairline, though.
His hair's so wacko.
We're just in place.
What about Tiger?
What about Tiger?
I like how, though, he took it with a little bit of.
I like how though he took it with a little bit of,
so in this beef,
it all originated after Nikki went on Hot 97 and said some things about everybody.
And then Safaree got on Twitter,
who was her ex and was saying,
you know, for a long time,
he had been saying he was writing her music,
which he was saying was a lie.
And then they just started going back and forth on Twitter,
which all this other stuff came out
about how she paid for his fake hair
and that they went to the same doctor as Tyga.
Tyga didn't even ask to get brought into this.
Why is Tyga being brought into this?
And if you don't recognize Safaree,
you probably know him from the gif where he's eating lettuce with his hands.
Okay.
That would be if you're not very familiar with him or who he is.
He's on Love & Hip Hop.
Yeah.
He eats lettuce without a fork.
And I think really their love is so strong to me.
I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know what's going on with them.
Well, a lot of people are saying that one of the songs on her album, Come See About Me, is about safari.
That's one of the songs where it's an R&B jam and she sings throughout all of it.
It's like, you've grown, I've grown.
Let's see if we can come and grow together or whatever.
Oh, wow.
I promised no knives.
Right. Just, wow. I promised no knives. Right.
Just our lives.
And so now he's talking about how he's got like a book deal
and he's got like hair club for men wants to sponsor him.
He got money for referrals for his doctor
and all of these things.
And what does Nikki get out of it?
Right.
Nikki gets, I mean, really?
And now she's saying that, you know,
Thursday I'm going to do Queen Radio
and we're going to air all this stuff out.
And it's like, put it in your rhymes, ma.
Right, right, right.
Like, put it in your art.
Beyonce wasn't going around saying,
Jay did this, Jay did that,
here's who Becky is, yada, yada, yada.
She put it into her art
and she dropped it on us out of nowhere.
Right.
And that's why it's legendary.
And that's why everyone's like,
who the fuck is Becky with the gray hair?
Yeah.
It's gotta be Gwyneth Paltrow.
It's gotta be Gwyneth.
What?
See, I have a theory that I,
because I know everyone says it's like that Dame Dash X or whatever.
Rachel Ray.
Or Rachel Roy.
Yeah, the other.
Whoops, I did the thing that the internet did.
Poor Rachel.
Came for numb hands, Rachel.
You leave her alone.
She makes meals in 30 minutes.
But I think that it's, there was a woman who had put out this really whack song called I'm Sorry, Miss Carter.
And she had like this really long hair.
And part of her whole persona is that like I'm an all-natural model girl.
And her name is like Liv something.
Yes, Liv did or something like that.
And she has naturally like super long straight black hair.
Like those wigs that Nicki wears now, that's what her natural hair looks like.
And so in the video, it's like her drinking wine out of a champagne glass in a hot tub
and constantly running her fingers through her hair so you can see that she's got this
straight hair or whatever.
I got the Remy growing out my head.
Yeah.
And the whole song is about how Jay-Z was trying to push on her.
Right. Oh, and the whole song is about how Jay-Z was trying to push on her. Right.
Oh, that definitely
makes sense.
And so I wonder,
and she's like,
your man like model chicks,
all natural model chicks
like me,
hair's natural,
nails natural,
blah, blah, blah.
Oh, okay.
And I remember
it created like
this little blip,
mostly because everybody
was making fun of her
and was like,
Jay got Beyonce,
he don't need you.
Little did we know.
Right.
He might have.
He may have and the
whole song is about how like i wasn't with him because i respect your marriage but you need to
put out that he needs to respect your marriage and so it's a diss track against beyonce wow and
so that's forever been my theory that like that might have been who becky with the good hair she
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And the primaries, some primaries were last night and it was a good day for progressivism i'd say yeah there were a bunch of candidates some firsts some who broke through as
firsts uh vermont nominated christine hallquist who was the first transgender person to ever be
a major party candidate for governor.
There you go.
She's going up against a popular Republican incumbent named Phil Scott.
But he is a Republican.
It's Vermont.
So I think she has a shot.
Most people think she does, too.
A progressive Muslim woman was nominated by the Democratic Party and is basically-
Oh, for Keith Ellison's seat, right?
Yeah, for Keith Ellison's seat in Minnesota.
And she's basically a shoo-in, they think.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, she's going to win.
I think Connecticut is also going to have possibly their first African-American congressperson if they win in the midterms in November too.
Yeah.
So a lot of firsts yesterday.
Yeah.
And these are, all of these people are just incredibly qualified.
And like Hallquist was the CEO of Vermont Electric Cooperative and like basically brought
the internet to all of Vermont.
Wow.
You know, so it's like, I don't know, it's just interesting to,
like when people talk about diversity,
a lot of the right will be like,
oh, it's being forced down our throat.
And it's like, no, you're letting people
who are overly qualified actually join the party
instead of blocking them.
Yeah, what are your qualifications?
I brought Vermont the internet.
And I was able to address climate change without raising costs.
I don't know, should I go on?
Do you need more?
But yeah, and then the Cook Report.
Miles, explain what the Cook Report is.
The Cook Political Report, this guy Charlie Cook,
he has his eye on all kinds of districts.
He's like the guru of congressional districts,
and especially when it comes to deciding which way they lean,
whether it's like a solidly Republican or solidly Democratic seat.
And he sort of keeps his finger on the pulse of these districts, looks at all kinds of information and data, and then his report will come out where he will begin to categorize these seats.
So some can go from solidly Republican to maybe just possibly leans Republican
or then could be a toss-up or could be leaning Democrat.
So there's like this scale.
And every time there's a rating that changes,
a lot of people who work in campaigns and politics in general,
they look at the political report and be like, oh, change the seat.
That's an indication that for the man who is like, he has a book that it's like a must-own book for anyone working in politics
because it breaks down every congressional district and gives you demographic information.
It's sort of like a cheat guide, a quick cheat sheet to understand what the different districts look like.
So, yeah, when he starts changing the direction of a seat and says like, oh, this one's moving more Democratic.
You listen because he's not just saying that because, oh, yeah, it's based on this or that.
I mean, not that he gets everything right, but he's a pretty well-respected person when it comes to determining these things.
So he wrote this morning, in January, we rated 20 GOP-held seats as toss-ups or worse, including three leaning toward Democrats.
held seats as toss-ups or worse,
including three leaning toward Democrats. With today's
changes, we now rate 37
GOP held seats as toss-ups
or worse, including 10
leading towards Democrats. So
things are definitely moving in the direction of
a blue-ish
wave-ish. But you gotta vote.
Yeah, don't listen to polls. Yeah, doesn't matter.
Just fucking vote. And if
your homies don't have that sticker,
the reckoning has to happen.
Everybody has to vote.
Everybody has to vote.
The other story that's being written this morning
in the New York Times, they have a headline,
Democrats try a risky strategy and bid to win house control.
And it's basically just instead of going with
these down-the-middle party-approved candidates, they're just letting the candidates in different districts follow their beliefs.
Or just tailor it to their district.
They're like, you know, in my district, people want to hear more about Medicaid expansion than high-speed rail or whatever.
Or infrastructure improvements.
And it's all very much in the same family of ideas. It's just but for the New York Times and some of the conventional wisdom when it comes to politics, the idea is that you need to have like a cohesive party ticket or a cohesive party platform that everybody is behind. And it just seems like that hasn't been working for the Democrats so well.
I mean, look at all the seats we've lost over the years.
It's clearly working.
Right.
Because the plan has to been to cede power to the right the whole time.
See, that's what you don't get.
It's a long game.
No, it has not been working.
So I think this is fine. It's one of those
scary headlines that an establishment
Democrat type person writes
to try and write to the ship,
so to speak. Just like when Alexandria
Ocasio-Cortez won. They're like,
easy now. She's
too radical. She might say
cowabunga or something and then it's all over.
You can tell that she
is a powerful
figure because of how much
ink is being spilled by the
right and the center.
The right is calling her
the left Sarah Palin.
They're just trying to... They're trying
anything. They're like, we counted the
number of times she said like and
that means she's dumb. She was a
bartender. Rightender right okay so for
all your bashing of elitism and shit right and then you can do this she also has an economics
degree so what are you talking about yeah yeah it's amazing how terrifying like how terrified
people are of her and you know she speaks to the people of her district and what what she does
there might not work in other places but yeah just this like super fear that everyone has
of losing control right is so interesting to me yeah it's it well you know i think a lot of people
too see that for candidates that are running on that kind of platform that is a threat to the
status quo of you know traditional capitalism in this country so when she comes talking that like
free health care free education then you get these think pieces
from like the right
where they're like,
I know it sounds good,
the idea that your kids
could have healthcare.
It was so scary
because I found myself
believing her.
I found myself agreeing.
I would,
as a parent,
I do want my kids to,
you know.
Who wouldn't?
Of course a parent
would feel like their child
is obligated
to provide healthcare
to everyone.
And an education,
yeah.
Right.
But we have to remember that it's wrong.
It's like, wow.
Yeah.
It is seductive.
Maybe I sound like she's like... She's not offering you meth.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
She's not coming by in a van that's like,
hey, get in, kids.
We've got free education and healthcare in this van.
Free iPods.
Come on in.
It's, yeah.
The meth of the people.
Healthcare.
Socialism.
Bullshit.
All right.
Speaking of things that are scaring the shit out of the right, Omarosa is still out here
dropping heat, making the summer surgical.
Surgical summer 18.
Yeah.
It's not Pusha T.
Yeah.
I think it's Omarosa, a.k.a. Lionel Messi as fuck.
She, man, she's really got something going.
fuck she man she's really got something going talk is there this is kind of like nick nicki minaj and safari almost where one person just needs the other person to acknowledge them and
their stock rises much like omarosa saying something about trump and now her book is now
i think number two uh like in pre pre-orders or whatever buy her book i mean it's doing a lot
better than sean spicer's book yeah and he was right in there, but that's because he's
over there being like, oh, and it was so
cool, and he's a unicorn something. What was
a weird fucking quote he said? I don't know. He was like a unicorn
on a ranch. I literally
tried to pay attention to that, and the words
just like did not enter my
brain. They just like bounced and fell
on the table in front of me. Yeah, I was falling asleep as soon as you said Sean Spicer.
I was like, I am. No, 100%.
Well, anyway, so we didn't get to
talk about this yesterday but we found out that a lot of people were speculating whether or not
this tape exists where trump drops the n-bomb and will prove once and for all that he's racist
because now we have it in recording fuck all the other shit that would have indicated that like his
racism or other things like that so So she teased this thing.
He was calling her a liar.
Then she comes with a straight-up recording of her and other surrogates on the campaign.
We're kind of discussing, okay, how are we going to deal with the fallout of this tape being released if it's released,
which is a pretty good indication that it probably exists.
But we don't know because you get a very specific chunk of audio,
so you don't know how Omarosa may have set it up if she just like walked them into this and said, oh, you know, there's a tape and it's probably going to come out.
Let's talk about this now.
Or people are saying there is a tape and we don't know yet.
But if there is, how do we handle it?
But they clearly sounded like people who were having to deal with it realistically.
And it wasn't they weren't wrestling with the idea that, no, he would never.
I don't believe that.
They're like, OK, this is what we do.
We got to figure out the context.
There's like a 95% chance.
Wasn't there a statement like the tape exists and he's embarrassed about it?
I think, well, there was a lot of crosstalk before it.
And you don't know if that was them saying that's what he should say.
And it's just acknowledge it and just say, I'm so embarrassed by it.
Or that he was confronted.
They're like, yo, did you say that?
And he said, I did.
And I'm embarrassed.
Although I don't believe that he would admit that either
because that's just not in his character.
I think he'd admit it, but not the being embarrassed part.
Back at that time, the Access Hollywood tape came out
and he immediately was like, yeah, that was me, my bad.
And then it only occurred to him like six months later
to be like, uh, so it might not be me.
Yeah, deep fakes.
I think Trump also said something about how
he called Mark Burnett the
apprentice producer, and
Mark Burnett assured him that the
tapes don't exist, which is totally something you
would have to do if you didn't use
racist terminology. You would have to call
somebody to find out if
tape existed of you using
racist slurs.
Yeah.
Because that word is not in my vocabulary.
Look, I've definitely, this isn't a slur, but I know for a fact that this right now
is going to be one of the few times in my life I've ever said the word rumbus.
So I don't have to worry that someone else is going to like find a tape of me saying
rumbus somewhere.
Right.
This is probably the only, these are the last times i will say that word right yeah well they so then right after that you know he puts out that wacky tweet where again he
has to go he has his typical game plan of attacking a person of color's intelligence and dehumanizing
them so he tweeted right after he says when you give a crazed crying lowlife a break and give her
a job at the white house i guess it just didn't work out good work by general
kelly for quickly firing that dog now okay we've the people have talked about this up and down all
over the news yesterday the stream of consciousness of this tweet is very bizarre where he's like when
you give a crazed person a job hey i guess it didn't just work out like where where was this
are you drunk also i know you don't drink also drunk? Yeah, you hired this crazed lowlife, right?
Yeah.
Does he know that you can do a draft?
No, no, no, no.
Has he heard of drafts?
His drafts folder is empty as fuck.
Oh, yeah.
No, he's like, what is that?
He's like, no, I don't want to be drafted.
That's how I got out of Vietnam.
Exactly.
He's scared of drafts.
He does not fuck with them at all.
Yeah, I don't know. That's how I got out of Vietnam. Exactly. He's scared of drafts. He does not fuck with them at all. Yeah.
I don't know.
There's, I mean, you know, I've heard it argued both ways that, yes, he, you know, has compared lots of people to dogs.
It's not just black people.
on, I think, CNN yesterday,
where it was a great screen cap from a moment on CNN
where it was a pie chart of people
whose intelligence he has insulted,
and it was like 90% black people.
No, it was like 73-27.
73-27, okay.
73% for black people
when he attacked their intelligence directly.
Right, and then also on screen
at that time
was the quote
from Sarah Sanders
saying she couldn't
guarantee
that a tape
didn't exist
of Trump
what a fuck of a sentence
does that have to say
about your boss
look I can't guarantee
there's not a tape
that is never
a good answer
to any question
like
it's not
like that means yes
you know what I mean
they're like you know as if you're a kid you're like did you do your homework I can't guarantee to any question. Like, it's not, like, that means yes. You know what I mean?
They're like,
you know,
if you're a kid,
you're like,
did you do your homework?
I can't guarantee that I did.
That suggests that,
like, it is imminently
coming out
because she lies
about fucking everything
just with a straight face
without any concern.
You know?
I think they know
they're too close
to the sun on this one.
Right.
Yeah.
No, because I definitely,
look, I've had bosses
where I can be like,
look, I can't guarantee there ain't a table for me anywhere either.
And it's like, nah, this is going to be the one where it ain't going to be my fault.
Yeah.
That's essentially her drawing the line for herself of being like, look, I can lie about a lot of stuff.
I just lied about all my black facts about how many black people are in employment.
What you ain't going to do is have me lie about the n-word in my voice right right is what you ain't gonna do
yeah she yeah and then she she had to take that back because i think the second she was pressed
about the tape my goodness she was maneuvering like han solo doing the kessel run and 12 far
sex babe babe uh i could not believe how she was like, he likes black people.
He created, like, literally just making facts up
about black employment, which was quickly debunked,
and then she had to go on Twitter and be like,
I have to correct myself.
Although they did not correct the actual transcript of this,
so for historical reference,
that will remain in there, in the record.
They couldn't even asterisk that.
I know, can we do an asterisk?
Because I feel like it would just be all transcripts from this administration would just be nothing
but asterisks.
I'm sure there is a watchdog group who has taken upon themselves the task of making sure
that there is an accurate record of everything that's happened.
Oh my God.
Can you imagine the footnotes?
I imagine that the page is like a quarter of it is the transcript,
and then the rest of the order is just footnotes.
100%.
Somebody needs to just send somebody to the briefings to just do live fact checks.
Right.
Just be like, okay, so that.
Just a light comes on.
Just going on the last paragraph alone and then talk for 15 minutes about everything.
That press briefing was interesting yesterday, too, because Kristen Welker from NBC was the
one pressing Sarah Sanders about, like, what did he say, blah, blah, blah.
And when she kept dodging, she wanted to follow up.
And at one point, Sarah Huckabee Sanders wanted to move on, so she called on one of the guys
from Fox News, and he ceded his time to Kristen Welker to let her keep the press up.
Right.
And just, you know, the N-word, it's going to wind up being the one line that everyone's like,
oh, no, you ain't getting me on this.
Even Fox News didn't want to be like, I don't want to be the guy who changed.
I don't want that smoke.
Pivot.
They're like, yo, do what you got to do.
I want none of this.
Yeah.
It ain't going to be connected to me in the future.
Exactly.
And it's funny, too, because Sarah Sanders is always up there being like, you know, whenever
he said weird stuff, she's like, you know, look at the president's actions, you know,
before you judge.
Don't just go look at his actions.
Black gun employment, blah, blah, blah.
Like, well, look, my friend, the president was using N words and he was doing engaging in action, an act of racist behavior.
So what are we supposed to do with that?
Right.
And I don't know what Omarosa has in the chamber right now, but Politico is reporting how the all-white house staff are just like shooketh at this point.
Yeah, they're terrified.
They're like, oh, my God, she's got one of those pens from Bond.
It's like you can buy them on Amazon, but that's totally fine.
People use them for notes in class.
She's got one of those pens from the Imaginarium.
And as we found out recently, it is the all-white house staff.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
all white house staff oh yeah yeah uh pen also pendulet uh who was on the celebrity apprentice says that like everybody who has talked to trump off mic says that he uses you know racially
insensitive language to a degree that makes everybody in the room wildly uncomfortable
right and so he's like he was asked if tapes of Trump making those comments exist.
And Penn Jillette said,
yeah,
I was in the room when he said it.
And he was like,
mic'd up.
So,
well,
come on,
Mark Burnett.
Yeah.
Come on,
Mark.
Now it's going to be someone,
cause I,
I would be willing to bet that by now the footage of that,
someone does have it.
Yeah.
You know,
like Burnett has it in case he needs it.
He's not going to delete it completely.
But hopefully, someone smart who kept it
before it was taken out,
before it was moved from archives
to whatever special lock and key.
There's one thing I know about people
who work in post-production.
They will save the best bits.
Especially if there's something funny on there.
Because I have seen outtakes of shows that have not been seen, but people who work in post-production are like, yo, you've got to see this one.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Or what is that thing?
They call it C-roll or something, where if someone happens to catch her, people – again, funny things like that.
Or people sometimes banging in sports events.
When you can't see them, the cameras will get it. and so they'll keep it so you can look up i think deadspin had
a bunch of them oh really like here are some like crazy i think they call it c-roll or d-roll or
something okay where it's just the stuff that people have saved in post or i have to go look
that up now so uh there will be dead air for the next 15 minutes. Yeah, there's some really good footage of Alex Trebek drinking on air, like he was doing
a PSA or some quick ads for Jeopardy.
And he's just crushing five beers during the course of the thing.
Oh my god.
And he's just so, he's like, fuck, god damn.
Oh wow.
Come on, Trebek.
Yeah, it's really good.
It's like in the 80s, like a on Trebek it's really good it's like in the 80s
like a young Trebek
the idea of pounding beers while you're trying to speak
out loud that doesn't even make sense
you'd just be burping up a fucking storm too
alright we're gonna take
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These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks.
President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today.
And these are the only two times we know of
that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president.
One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson.
I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman.
The other, a middle-aged housewife
working undercover for the FBI
in a violent revolutionary underground.
Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore.
The story of one strange and violent summer.
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Available now with new episodes every Thursday.
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The situation is desperate.
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And just a little bit more Trump to talk about because Paul Manafort's trial is in its last day because the defense staged a valiant, like we mentioned, just the defense rests.
That was their defense.
Yeah.
They were like, and do you have to present something?
Nah, we're good.
No, we're good.
Let's just go to.
Fifth.
Yeah.
The old we're good defense. Let's go to... Fifth. Yeah. The old we're good defense.
Let's get to closing arguments.
How about that?
Yeah, I think it's going to be very interesting.
I mean, it seems like from what a lot of people are gathering,
their defense is just basically going to be in their closing argument
that Rick Gates is a liar and cheats on his wife.
Therefore, Paul Manafort is not guilty.
Right.
Something to that effect of just attacking the credibility of Rick Gates.
And I think what they're going to try and say is because the prosecution had to bring up this cooperating witness, that shows the lack of strength of the evidence and the documents to prove their case.
Therefore, Paul Manafort innocent.
Another thing we talked about yesterday, how they try to do a last ditch appeal to the the judge to get the judge to throw the case out and acquit Paul Manafort.
The reasoning was that, so there's this guy named Steve Koch,
he works at this bank in Illinois who gave Paul Manafort a $16 million loan,
which is a huge part of the capital that the bank has to play with, essentially.
So Paul Manafort was like, yo, give me this loan.
I can hook you up. I'm hooked up in up right trump thing i can get you any job so this guy gave him
the loan blah blah blah and part of that was and part of this trial is the wire fraud and the other
fraud that paul manafort committed was he gave this bank uh fraudulent statements and other
documents to prove that he was worthy of getting this loan or whatever uh so his defense was
arguing to the judge that because this guy, Steve Koch,
who worked at the bank, was so desperate to work for the administration
because Paul Manafort had been like, hey, if you give me this loan, you'll get a job,
that it shouldn't matter if Paul Manafort submitted fraudulent documents
because this person was so focused on the quid pro quo of it all
that it wouldn't have mattered and he would have got the loan anyway.
That's cute.
And, yeah, the judge was like, huh?
He's like, that doesn't-
Your honor, he was too easy to scam.
Yeah.
That's why it's not really a scam.
He didn't even have to scam him.
He's not even trying hard.
He wouldn't have even had to.
And they're like,
that doesn't materially change the fact
that he submitted fraudulent documents
to a bank to secure a loan.
Right.
So they're like, no, we're going to see you tomorrow.
Come with your A game.
Oh, that was their A game.
That was their argument.
That was why they were trying to get the whole case dismissed.
Yeah, he was going to give it to them anyway, so it doesn't matter if you committed fraud.
So that's where they're dealing with.
So a couple of other things leaked were some of the email correspondence where we find
out that Steve Koch was very interested in one job in particular.
He wanted to be the secretary of the army, which is a civilian job within DOD to sort of have like an administrative role in the army, not like a military actual tactical role in any way.
And he really wanted it.
And he kept writing Paul Manafort like these emails like, oh, here's my here's my bio.
So you can send it to the DOD.
I was like, oh, here's my bio so you can send it to the DOD.
He said, if I can't get those, here's a list of other prospective roles that I would like to be considered for.
He misspelled prospective roles.
He spelled it perspective, P-E-R.
Like from this perspective.
And roles, R-O-L-L-S.
Like dinner roles.
Like, yes, like a sushi roll, if you will.
Right, right.
So that's what this man is writing.
And at the top, he was like, I want to be ambassador to the UK.
And then like all these other huge countries and the very end, I guess I could be ambassador to the UN too.
I mean, if like we have to.
Yeah.
I mean, if like that's our only thing.
And you really want to fuck me over.
Yeah, I guess.
Make me the ambassador to the UK.
To the UK or Japan or something.
Right.
So and then he had a bio where he clearly full on took out the description of what the actual role is of the Secretary of the Army and then put that in.
Sorry, which are we talking about?
R-L-E.
Oh, okay.
Oh, no, because people caught on to that because it was the one time he didn't misspell role.
And then when they did a search on it, they're like, this is from Wikipedia.
And then he was saying things like, yes, this man, Steve Koch, in his bio, he said he has
a deep reservoir of competence and things like that.
And he's like, and verifiable acumen.
And just all these weird buzzwords that were just a guy who uses the word like therefore
like a million times because he thinks it makes him sound per se.
Right.
Shall.
Yeah, exactly.
This it just kind of shows you how the transactions work with this campaign.
It was, you give me something, I can give you a job in the fucking government.
And if this man was out here with his perspective roles, I'm just curious, who are the other
people that are working in here who probably know less than this dude does?
I mean, probably many.
Right.
Because as we've seen with people like Scott Pruitt.
I mean, like DeVos, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, she's-
Or DeVos or whatever.
Yeah.
A lot of the guys from Crooked Media who, you know, their first jobs were in the Obama
administration and now they're just coming out into the public sector, or the private
sector for the first time.
And they're just like, we are extremely unimpressed
by the private sector.
Oh, right.
Because for years, people were like,
we just need really smart businessmen to come in here
and run the country like it's a business.
And I just feel like this,
everything we learn about Trump and Manafort
and just all of this shit just puts the lie
to this system
that runs our country, capitalism.
It's just like everybody's a crooked dumbass.
It's just.
If you put businessmen in charge,
the first thing they think of is
how is this going to be good for my business
when I am not doing this anymore?
Right, that is what you are counting on.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
In fact, part of the defense's argument is that the prosecution, Mueller's side, did not call enough witnesses.
And part of the reason that they didn't call more witnesses is because every rock they uncovered, the people underneath were so corrupt that they just couldn't bring them in as witnesses because they would have had to
grant them immunity and
like you can't just pardon like
every corrupt person in the country
Turtles all the way down
that's exactly right
I think one of the witnesses that they
didn't call was actually Smeagol
they were like yo
you literally came from under a rock
and your greed rididden soul is not enough
for this courtroom but it just off that fact they there were 27 witnesses on behalf of the
prosecution zero witnesses on behalf of the defense and even in when you talk about the
documentary evidence and things like that the uh the government submitted about 367 exhibits
the defense 12 oh they were just grasping at straws
to begin with they just didn't have they're like fuck bro one of them's just like an email from
him to him bcc to him like oh i didn't do any of that crazy stuff i don't know why people would
say that you're so right note to self right um note yourself i've never committed a crime
note to self you're so innocent and a good boy. Yeah.
You're the very best boy.
Yeah.
I mean,
your honor,
just look at this email.
He wrote to himself,
I'm a good boy.
Now the defense rests.
Oh man.
But just like for all the people who don't have a lot of money to see that this is like
what people who have a lot of money are doing that this is like what people who have a lot
of money are doing with getting away with it and how they're getting their
money is just being like,
Hey,
I'll give you a job in as secretary of army.
I'm sure they didn't even know that job existed when he promised it to him.
Like I'll get,
I'll make you secretary of army if you give me 16 million fucking dollars.
And they were like,
yup.
That's what baffles me.
If y'all want to just like kept quiet and not been so loud about your craziness.
Cause I'm sure this is not the first or the last time that someone has leveraged this.
They just haven't ever been this stupid about it before.
This administration is so loud and they're making it so loud and crazy in these streets.
And like,
if you just would have
settled for like less right but you had to take it all gotta swing for the stands ah it's just
the dumbass the other thing too is steve cox he was so gassed up on the idea of him being secretary
of the army he preemptively called the fucking pentagon detail and was like this fucking day
what's good this is steve cox I'm about to be Secretary of Army,
so how do you want to handle my briefings?
Should I come in?
How do you want to handle my briefings?
Yeah, and they were like, I'm sorry?
Yeah, they're like, this is the fucking Pentagon, my man.
What are you saying?
Why are you calling from a bank number?
When I get this job.
All right, hold on.
Let me call Paul really quick.
I'll call you back.
And they're like, yo, what's good?
I just called the Pentagon, and they didn't know about me. Also, by the way, how do you just get in the Pentagon's number back. And they're like, yo, what's good? I just called the Pentagon and they didn't know about me.
Also, by the way, how do you just get in the Pentagon's
number just to call and be like, hey,
I just want to check up on my resume.
I think he went to like army.gov
and just went to the contact link and was
like, okay, what's good? Okay, there's a phone number. Okay.
And then just read it as like, yeah, I need to talk to,
I need to get to the Pentagon somehow.
So, yeah.
Project confidence. Project confidence, baby. Call the place that you want to get hired and Pentagon somehow. So, yeah. Project confidence.
Project confidence, baby.
Call the place that you want to get hired
and ask them how they're going to handle your briefings.
Yep, and confuse the shit out of them.
Yeah.
All right, speaking of just capitalist incompetence,
MoviePass, we just wanted to check in on them
because, Miles, you had an amazing statistic.
Yeah, well, you know, I invested about $14,000 in MoviePass at the around February.
Right.
No, no, around April.
And it was trading around $1,000.
I had 14 shares.
And I thought, okay, this is good.
This is a good investment.
$1,000 a share.
Yeah.
And I've been trusting the process.
I don't read the bad news that they've just been in a downward death spin and that they've only limited it to, I think, three movies a month now.
And it's just – and I don't believe it.
So what I'm going to do is live on air.
I'm going to – because I'm so confident, I'm going to check what my shares are at right now.
And I'm just going to flex on all y'all.
Okay.
So let me just go right here.
Okay.
It is – oh, my God.
Oh.
No!
Miles? No! It's trading at five my God. Oh. No! Miles?
No!
It's trading at five cents a share now.
$1,000 to five cents a share.
I only have 70 cents.
My 14,000 is now worth 70 cents.
Okay.
All jokes aside, they lost $126 million last quarter, they just reported, and their stock
is trading at five cents a nickel a share.
And now they're facing a class action lawsuit from their shareholders.
You know, but that $0.70 would have been like half a bus ride.
That's true.
That's true.
Yeah.
Hey, in another country, it might be worth more.
Yeah, you could have went from a down payment on a house to almost being able to take the train.
To a down payment on a house to almost being able to take the train to a down payment on a metro card right that one guy traded a red paper clip for you know he ended up getting up to
a house so there's still hope for you there's true i mean wow what a yeah in april it was
trading around a thousand dollars and now it's at five cents and i mean i don't know who the
obviously the this class action lawsuit i understand why they would sue them. They're like, you told us some whole other shit.
And why are we here right now? But I feel like someone who's just a little bit of savvy. I mean,
granted, I don't know how like the high end investment realm works where they thought,
look, we can operate at a loss because eventually it's going to be so huge that they're going to
have to come to come to do business with us. Amazon fucked all these people up. Amazon did it for, they did it right, and everyone was like,
yeah, you don't have to make money.
Right.
You kind of do.
Eventually.
This is a business, right?
Right.
Yeah, you need money.
So they clearly, I mean, they were sort of complaining that they're like,
this isn't a sustainable business model, but we all, I mean,
when you're like, unlimited movies for nine bucks.
And we don't own none of these theaters.
Yeah.
Okay.
I don't know.
Did you have MoviePass ever?
I did.
I did have MoviePass.
Okay.
And then.
Did you take advantage of it?
Oh, I took advantage of it.
Okay, yeah.
See?
Because that's what.
What's the point?
I think they're like, oh, well, certain users were ruining it.
No, that's what you told us we could do.
You don't say unlimited and then be like, like the aster of like it's unlimited movies but if you do it use a dick right
unlimited movies right you know so i i did i went and i took advantage of it and i watched a bunch
of stuff and then once stuff started getting real weird i canceled and i'm lucky that i canceled
when i did because now it's like hard to cancel. It's hard to cancel?
I'd have to find the tweet,
but someone tweeted that they got
an email from them that essentially said
that people were being
automatically opting into their
new program. And if you had
put in a cancellation request
before the automatic
opt-in, the opt-in was
taking priority over your cancellation.
So people were having to go back in and cancel again.
My goodness.
That's amazing.
Yeah.
I really don't know how the CEO is going to spin this one
because the last time when we checked in with them,
when they went to three movies a month,
he's like, that's fine
because 85% of our users
don't watch more than three movies a
month and guys just ignore all this talk that like it's it's all in a bad place and then cut to today
my goodness how are you ever going to make money when you don't own the theaters and you don't own
the movies because you have to pay if i'm paying 10 bucks a month and movies on average depending
on where you are one movie is is between $10 to $15.
LA is between $15 and $20.
Yeah.
How was this ever a winning business model?
What were you going to do?
I don't know.
I don't know.
It must really have been this thing where they knew they were playing chicken with Destiny.
They're like, you know what?
If we just floor it and go right at the wall, right. The wall may turn into a bucket of gold,
but it just ended up crashing into a fucking wall basically.
So I don't know.
Uh,
Oh,
it was fun to watch.
It was fun.
Well lasted.
Hey,
I know.
That's why I feel like that the AMC one,
they kind of,
they kind of got it right.
Cause there's like 20,
but you get,
I think three movies a week.
It's three movies a week.
Yeah.
And it's their own theater. And it's their own theater. So they're still going to make money off of you because you're going to buy popcorn and is like 20, but you get, I think, three movies a week. It's three movies a week, yeah,
and it's their own theater. And it's their own theater.
So they're still gonna make money off of you
because you're gonna buy popcorn and stuff
because you can afford to now.
Plus,
like,
a lot of the theaters have drinks,
and so you can go and get drinks,
and unlike with MoviePass,
with MoviePass,
you had to like show up
and get your thing.
There were only a few theaters
where you could actually get a ticket ahead of time.
Right, right, right.
You would just have to kind of show up
and hope it wasn't sold out.
With AMC, you can reserve a seat early.
Like anything, yeah.
Like any other,
like you were buying it with regular monies.
Yeah, oh man.
Popcorn, AMC.
Just think about that.
I always get a little cup of nacho cheese.
With the popcorn?
Oh, fuck yeah.
Oh, I used to work at a movie theater.
It was my first job
and that was what we all ate for lunch.
That's the hack.
Really?
Oh yeah, shout out to Chris Fleck who showed me that at the AMC 14,
when it was the AMC 14 in Burbank.
I learned about jalapenos when I moved out here.
Jalapenos with popcorn.
Do you fuck with that?
Yeah, wait, you've just, oh, because that's not a real condiment everywhere else?
They didn't give it out on the East Coast, really, when I was growing up,
where I just never saw anybody use it.
Oh, yeah, and here you get peppers with everything.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Everything comes with peppers.
They called those devil rings on the East Coast.
Devil rings on there?
No, no, no.
Oh, boy, no.
No, sir, no devil rings for me.
Classic East Coast accent.
Yep.
Danielle, it's been a pleasure having you.
Where can people find you?
You can find me on Twitter, just at Danielle Radford I got it first
you can find me on instagram
at Danielle underscore Radford please
I do try to put funny and cute things
on instagram please
follow me there because if I get to 10,000 I can
start getting free clothes really
is that the threshold yeah the threshold is like
10,000 for like to be a quote unquote
influencer yeah oh or just to make your For like to be a quote unquote influencer?
Yeah.
Oh, or just to make your account, like to put it in that category?
Well, it opens up new things for me.
And then, yeah, advertisers can be like, you have an audience.
What's your follower count right now?
I think I'm at like $3,000.
Okay, that's fine.
Let's go.
Let's go, people.
Let's go.
Let's ramp that up.
7,000 of you.
Get on it.
But yeah, so do that.
And then you can find me.
I'm on Screen Junkies on Thursdays.
You can find me at my wrestling podcast, Tyson Fights.
Also releases on Thursdays and just various places around the internet.
Nice.
You like Hal Rudnick?
Yeah.
I like all the Hals.
I'm friends with the both Hals.
I like Hal.
He's a good one.
We were friends. We're friends. He's a good one. We were friends.
We're friends.
He's a good dude.
Is there a tweet
you've been enjoying lately?
You know,
it was really just,
it's all of the
Nicki Minaj related tweets.
Uh-huh.
So I'll go back
and let me see
because they're all,
they're just all so good.
I was literally texting people like,
please tell me
that you're watching this.
Please tell me
that you are watching all of this Nicki Minaj and Safaree tweets.
This one.
First off, me and Tyga didn't go to the same doctor.
We did it the same day.
Different doctors.
Listen, I don't know if this has to do with first week sales, but you need to finish your
zen and don't talk about VH1 checks because the way you're acting, it's like you're auditioning
to be on Love and Hip Hop.
Oh.
And then he did another one.
At least y'all know I was trying to keep my nudes to myself now.
Someone was,
and then he spelled it
like weird,
trying to leak my dick pic
for years
and I've been trying
to stop it forever.
But is this supposed
to be your promo run?
I'm flattered that you feel
talking about me can help.
I can't believe
you're still mad.
And then this final one,
it's about,
and let's keep the mention
of mothers and siblings
to a minimal of zero, please.
Sincerely yours, 12K Hairline.
12K Hairline.
There you go.
Is that how much he spent on his hairline?
She spent on his hairline. How much she spent.
She spent.
Scammed for a hairline.
There you go.
It's a thin hairline between love and hate.
Miles, where can people find you?
You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at MilesOfGrey.
We'll find you.
You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray. And now that I know if you get 10K, you could possibly get free things, help me get there too.
Yes.
Let us realize all of our dreams since we've commodified our brains for the internet.
And a tweet I'm liking is actually a little bit of messy spilled tea from KBXX97.9, The Box, in Houston, H-Town,
From KBXX97.9, The Box in Houston, H-Town, where Robert Glasper, who is an amazing jazz piano producer,
he went on his local radio station and dumped the whole pot of tea out on Lauryn Hill.
Basically talking about how she really does, like, you cannot look her in the eye, how she has a bad personality.
Tried to G up on the whole band and say, like, hey, accept half the money or I'm going to hire this whole other band that I just auditioned right now.
So make your decision.
And then he also kind of let everybody know that she really didn't write the Miseducation
of Lauryn Hill, which was the explosive thing.
I feel like that had been out for a while, but it was the first time that a lot of people
picked up on it.
Or at least someone who was so aggressively being like,
yeah, that's the truth.
And don't look at the checks.
She had to cut other people's checks for that album.
That's not because she was being nice.
It's because she stole their music.
And they also say that could be why she has to do different arrangements of songs live.
That's what I've heard.
And that's why she hasn't done another one.
Yeah.
And he's also like, how come she hasn't had a hit since then?
And that's like, but't done another one. Yeah. And that's who he's also like, how come she hasn't had a hit since then? And that's like, but I love elbow heat.
So, yeah, that is a tweet that just check my timeline for it or the footnotes.
Yeah.
So that's mine.
All right.
You can follow me at Jack underscore O'Brien tweet.
I've been enjoying Blank Patchgedy plus time equals tragedy time
and KBSpangler
another KB tweet
tweeted hey so
we're agreed everything is an absolute shitstorm right
let's give the folks who love pumpkin spice
whatever's a pass this year
which I think is nice
alright you can
follow us at Daily
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We have a Facebook fan page
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to the information in the episode
as well as the song.
Miles, what's that going to be?
You guys already know.
It's your girl Doja Cat with the, I mean, the low energy hit of the summer.
Just take this audio volume straight to your brain.
It's moo.
Oh, also, you guys, there are now four, five episodes of Couples Therapy up,
and it's so fucking good.
Everybody really needs to check it out.
We had Naomi andy on the
show before and separately and i know the feedback was good when they were out guesting yeah yeah so
definitely check out their pod because their show is very bingeable so so good if you just want to
laugh the whole time because it's just funny people being so funny uh not like this secondary
podcast right uh also our footnotes are in the uh description of the episode so you can find them
there uh we are gonna ride out on moo we will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast
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I could treat you, but I have to charge
It's better than yours
It's better than yours
But I have to charge
It's better than yours It's better than yours
It's better than yours
But I have to charge
I want a cheeseburger
Fucking deans. 90 miles, two women did something no other woman had done before, try to assassinate the President of the United States. One was the protege of Charles Manson.
26-year-old Lynette Fromm, nicknamed Squeaky.
The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI.
Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore.
The story of one strange and violent summer, this season on the new podcast, Rip Current.
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only on Apple Podcasts.
Yeah, because you refuse to ask for directions.
It's Space Jam. There are no roads.
Good point. So where are we headed?
Into the unknown, of course.
Join us on In Our Own World as we uncover hidden truths,
navigate the depths of culture, identity, and the human spirit.
With a hint of mischief.
One episode at a time.
Buckle up and listen to In Our Own World on the iHeartRadio app,
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Trust us, it's out of this world. English, and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of Lucha Libre.
And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, Emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE Superstar.
Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts.
MTV's official challenge podcast is back for another season.
That's right. The challenge is about to embark on its monumental 40th season, y'all.
And we are coming along for the ride.
Woo-hoo!
That would be me, Devon Simone.
And then there's me, Davon Rogers.
And we're here to take you behind the scenes
of the Challenge 40, Battle of the Eras.
Join us as we break down each episode,
interview challengers,
and take you behind the scenes of this iconic season.
Listen to MTV's official challenge podcast
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.