The Flop House - Ep. #244 - Unforgettable
Episode Date: November 11, 2017Our love (?) affair with Katherine Heigl continues, as we discuss the crazy ex-wife thriller "Unforgettable." Meanwhile Elliott leans deep into dad jokes, Stuart discourses on the racism of a Mexican ...restaurant, and Dan''s covered in chili. Wikipedia synopsis for Unforgettable Movies recommended in this episode The Shop Around the Corner Thor: Ragnorok Crimson Peak The Lost City of Z LIVE SHOWS Dec. 9 – San Francisco, at the Marines Memorial Theater
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On this episode we discuss unforgettable.
Wait, what was this movie about? I forgot.
Oh, I'll Dan McCoy.
Hey, party over here, it's me, Stewart Wellington.
And I'm Elliot Kaelin from what sounds like
the bottom of a well.
Hey everybody.
Elliot is recording in a different room
than he normally does and he's very concerned about it.
The bottom of a well.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I found an ancient Roman sister in my backyard
and I decided to climb on in there
and turn into a recording studio.
Yeah, you're like a real Lara Croft.
Lara? Oh yeah.
Lara Lara. Remember?
It's pronounced Larry, Larry Croft.
Oh no.
Not bad. They wanted a boy.
Yeah, Larry Croft, tomb buyer.
He's just a realtor, is that what you're saying?
Yeah, yeah, he buys and sells tomes.
He's in the tomb real estate business.
Because here's the thing about tomes, Dan.
People are dying to get in.
Oh, okay.
I'm a dad.
So when you become a dad at the hospital,
they go down a list of the types of jokes
you can't tell anymore, and they're like funny jokes.
Can't tell them anymore.
Whitty jokes?
No. Relevant jokes? No. And I'm like, well, what kind of jokes can't tell anymore and they're like funny jokes. Can't tell them anymore. Whitty jokes?
No.
Relevant jokes?
No.
And I'm like, well, what kind of jokes can I tell?
And they said, hold on to your hat.
All the bad jokes.
And I was like, all of them.
And they said, mm-hmm.
And they give you a book called the Thousand One Terrible Jokes for dads.
And I just been memorizing that stuff, you know?
Now, what about dirty jokes?
I guess you can tell them quietly to like someone's uncle in the corner of a
adult party
Yeah, you have to make sure your kid is far enough away that they don't think you're talking to them
But close enough that they can overhear it right all right, and you can tell dirty jokes if your daughter's friends are in the house too
Just to embarrass her
All right, it's all it's all in chapter one embarrassing your child, which is also chapters two through a hundred.
Well, there's a lot of chapters in this book.
It's really more of a multi-volume set.
Robert Carroll wrote it.
Yeah.
So now that we know what we know about Bill Cosby, I guess you can take over the dad humorist
mantle, you can start doing all this
dad material now.
I mean, I think Dave Barry has that lockdown pretty hard.
I don't feel like he talks about dad stuff so much as like
a local man does crazy thing.
What?
Two names, two words, Ray Romano.
Okay, sure, yeah.
Ray Romano has it locked up.
If you've ever seen the video of him performing at the White House press dinner, he's doing his
regular routine.
So he's said, how is kids dream about candy?
There's like no laughter in the room.
It's like, this is not the material that's going to hit well with these Washington insiders.
These beltway boys, come on.
Yeah, they don't have children.
They reproduce with spores.
Mm-hmm.
They reproduce through leaks.
So this is a podcast where we watch a bad movie.
Oh, fuck, we already started.
And then we talk about it.
And hey guys, we're just coming off a run of real fun shows.
We did some live shows recently, and now we're back to doing the podcast the way we do
it nowadays, which is you and Brooklyn and me and Los Angeles and all of us tired.
Yeah, yeah, it's real weird. Luckily, we watched a bad movie that got us all fired up.
So, now I don't know when...
What do we do on this podcast?
I said it already. Have you already forgotten?
Jesus. No, so I don't know when Elliot watched this movie. You watched this movie recently Stuart.
Yeah, yesterday.
I watched this movie.
We were going to record this to pull back the curtain a little bit.
We're going to record this in a-
That was me.
That was you pulling back the curtain on me taking a shower.
Yeah.
We were going to record this in Los Angeles,
but you threw your back out so we couldn't record it there.
And I had watched the movie already by then.
Yeah, so I wrote it.
Ironically, this movie called
Unforgettable is largely forgotten because it was like a month ago that I watched it. So
Stuart, you're gonna like, you're gonna take up the map. Oh, it's my time to shine. Yeah.
Okay. I will say I watched the first hour of it a month ago, and I watched the last 26
minutes of it about a week ago.
So that was a pretty fresh in my mind.
All right.
I refreshed myself by looking at a plots and obsis
to that help.
Not really.
Not really.
Not really.
Yeah, I mean, that's a thing that's a thing
that's great about doing a movie podcast
is watching the movie as far an advantage as possible.
And then spending the whole time trying to remember what happened.
Yeah.
So do you do it? You want to take the reins and I'll just chime in when I feel like it?
Oh, man. Let me consult my complicated note system.
So we open in a, sure, why not? So this is a movie called Unforgettable.
Okay.
Starry.
Based on the song of the same name.
Yeah, Starry.
Now, I'm, oh, no, you're sorry, it's, see what you keep going.
I'll introduce my fact when you're done with telling who stars in it.
Okay.
So it stars Rosario Dawson and La Pius Fave, Catherine Hygol.
In fact, we should, we should call this the Hygol house, I think.
Should we take a vote on it now
that I've put the motion on the table?
I think I've got a second, this motion, Stu.
Oh wow, okay, okay, Dan,
so call up iTunes and change everything.
Call up all of our iTunes.
Tell them to put a new name in there.
Yeah, Hygolography.
Well, this is our new, is this our new theme month
of high-gall-vamber?
Yeah, it's our poorly puned theme month.
High-gall-vamber?
Yeah.
I was gonna say about this movie that I didn't realize
till after I watched it and I was looking up,
this is directed by a woman named Denise DeNovi
who produced a ton of movies.
Like she produced heathers, who produced a ton of movies.
She produced Heathers, she produced a ton of Tim Burton's movies, like she knows movies.
And this was her directorial debut.
And so I'm glad I didn't know that going into it because I think I would have expected
a different, perhaps better movie than I got.
Okay, you're showing your hand a little bit, but that's all right. So. So I'm saying this is this is there's powerhouse people behind this. So we're punching up. So it's
okay to say terrible things. Dan, go for it. Say something terrible. Um, Rosario Dawson is wasted in
this role. All right, Jean shallot. Great. Okay, so the movie opens Rosario Dawson, who is not wasted in this role, is covered in blood
in a police station being interviewed by the actor who played bunny Colvin on the wire.
Yeah, he's good at being a cop. So he's like, hey, who's this dude?
We found him dead in your house.
What's going on?
And why did you send him all these pictures
on his Facebook?
So they have a pair of her panties too
that they say she mailed to him.
Yeah.
So at this point, it looks like she's going down,
cut to six months earlier.
And we're in San Francisco, which we're gonna be in soon, more on that in a little bit.
December 9th, get your tickets now.
We're in the offices of Chapter Pad.
Wait, I think it's called Chapter Page. No, it's Chapter Pad.
No, Chapter Pad. Really? Yeah.
Well, Stuart and I both have had it.
I don't know. And you're trying to remember a movie a month old, so.
I watched this yesterday.
No, Dan's probably right on that.
So we're introduced to Whitney Cummings.
Wait, hold on a second.
Let's take a moment to talk about what chapter pad does.
Chapter pad appears to be some kind of a storytelling website.
And what that means is never totally clear if it's fiction or nonfiction.
And whether Rosario Dawson is a writer or an editor or what?
Yeah, I had a problem with this because I immediately assumed like okay chapter pad is probably like just like a
Blogging side like a place where people can upload whatever stories they want to
Upload and like that makes sense kind of as like
A thing that could maybe make some money,
but then later on, Rosario Dawson has to edit a story
that someone submitted.
So then I'm like, okay, well, is this like a literary magazine?
Because there's no way this startup works as that.
And then later on after that, Wendy Cummings is like,
Rosario, you gotta get in that story that you promised us.
It's like, wait, you're a writer for the site now too?
Like, I don't understand what's going on in this, this internet company.
It doesn't make a lot of sense.
It's almost...
Let me explain, guys.
I want to say to it.
I'm just going to say, like, is the reason that they're a startup based around like story
stuff and she's a writer is because that's more feminine or something?
I don't quite get it like.
I think, well, the story reason for it in the movie is that this is a job that you don't really, nobody knows what writers do or what editors do.
So you can just kind of have her not doing her job and it's no one cares.
But here's the thing, Dan, and Stuart. Chapter Pad is disrupting the way we read stories.
By bringing together the internet
and a lack of those gatekeepers
who are keeping you from reading
the hottest, hardest, hardcore erotica
with my amateurs around.
You wouldn't know it from their squeaky clean offices,
or the fact that it seems to be almost entirely staffed by women, which to be honest is fairly accurate to the publishing industry.
But Chapter Pad said, hey, who says Moby Dick can't have hardcore sex scenes in it?
Who says that a tale of two cities can't now be a bondage story?
Because that's what Chapter Pad does.
It takes the great works of literature, puts them in the hands of fanfiction amateurs,
and turns them into the 50 shades of grays of tomorrow, and them in the hands of fanfiction amateurs and turns
them into the 50 Shades of Grees of Tomorrow, and you can read it on your phone with the
chapter pad app. Hi everybody, I'm Elliot Kaelin for the chapter pad app. Have you ever
been on a bus before waiting for a meeting, and you've wanted to read a version of Dante's
and Ferno that's lighter on the Catholic theology and heavier on the sex?
Have you ever been in public and wanted to get a boner?
Oh, time, guys.
I'm not even hailing for publicboners.com.
Publicboners.com is your place for things that you can look at in public safely, but
will still give you a boner.
Well, it depends on what you're turned on by.
Are you turned on by maps of countries you've never been to?
In that case, publicboner.com is the place for you.
It's mainly public domain maps of places I assume you've never been to. In that case, publicboner.com is the place for you. It's mainly public domain maps of places I assume you haven't been to. But chapter
pad, it's disruptive. It's disrupting the way we read. It's disrupting the way we think.
Disrupting the way we disrupt and disrupting the way we disrobe. Dan Stewart, would you like
to invest in this new startup? I need a couple of unicorn investors, some Pegasai, if you
will. I don't think this is not technically a unicorn,
but whatever, let's just go with that.
So wait, what's a unicorn investor?
A unicorn investor is like someone
who's gonna give you all their money
and expect nothing in return.
It's called a unicorn investor
because much like a unicorn,
a virgin needs to sit down in the forest
to attract the investor.
The investor lays its head in her lap
and then we murder it, split it open,
take the money that's inside, and use it to invest in our business.
What I'm talking about guys is a Bafo IPO.
I just need your money to help get Chapter Pad off the ground.
Then we go IPO, we release a Zillion shares for $3Zillion,
and we're so wealthy, we can escape to the moon.
So, that's the chapter pad promise.
Look, look, so look at you tell me.
I wasn't realizing that this was like a plot to get off world.
I didn't know we were doing the jumbo trance already.
Guys, guys, have you ever wanted to make enough
that you can finally move to Elysium?
Because that's what chapter pad offers
with this investment opportunity.
I think instead of doing that, I want to get some kind of terminal brain cancer and then get a robot
exoskeleton and then fight my way to Elysium. Sure, that's the traditional way to get to Elysium.
Sure, but I'm offering a shortcut. Invest in ChapterPad, help people read public domain fan fiction
sex versions of the classic works of literature. And we all win.
That's LA Kaelin for publicboner.com chapter pad.
Dan, you got a lot of money, right?
You're always bragging about it.
Yeah, that's the key personality trait.
I mean, I don't need to tell you the listener.
You've been listening to 240 some episodes now that you know that I am Rich Uncle Pennybags from the...
No, but you're always bragging about it off air.
You're always like, those rubs that listen to our podcast don't know that I'm swimming
in the bucks.
Dan actually has a solid gold hankerchief and it's gold doesn't absorb mucus.
So he just blows his nose into it and then throws it away.
It is active. It is. Yeah.
It is poorly designed.
If it absorbs the mucus, he'd hold on to it for future.
And if Dan, when he throws it away, if he hits a homeless person in the head with it,
he goes,
caching bonus points.
Look, I'm doing a homeless person a favor.
They can sell that goals.
Thank you, the hangar shift for big bucks.
Bafo Bucks.
Yeah, that's.
Maybe I should get them to invest in my,
in chapter pads.
So anyway, yeah, they work at chapter pad,
a storytelling website,
and they give Rosera Dawson a birthday party
thrown by her friends last boss.
It was a going away party.
Oh no, you're right.
It's a going away party
from her friend,
slash boss Whitney Cummings.
Whitney Cummings gets her a hat
as a birthday present.
And oh no, it's a going away present.
They really spend a lot of time talking about that hat.
Creator of two broke girls Whitney Cummings.
Yeah, talk about someone you can get into
and invest in something, like she's got the money.
So she gives her a hat, which is awesome
because Rosario Dawson loves hats.
Yeah.
And the way they're talking, you realize that she's leaving San Francisco to marry a man.
Marry a fella and that she had just come out of a bad relationship.
I don't know if you saw that.
In abusive, she was the victim of domestic abuse with her ex-boyfriend.
And now she's leaving all that behind.
She's going to Southern California,
and she just drives there.
And at a certain point, in the opening credits,
driving trip, her suitcases open up
and all her clothes fall out while she's driving.
And you just have to assume she never gets those again.
It's a weirdly muppet moment.
If this otherwise very serious, you know,
like, love triangle thriller.
At that point, that is the butterfly shedding its chrysalis
and moving on.
I also like that, I also like that the street
that she drives away from in San Francisco
that she was living on is Servante Street.
Guys, do you get it?
Name after, name after, name after Servante's
from the Soul Calibre video game.
Oh, okay.
I was wondering where you were going with that.
It was just like, yeah, this really is a modern day Don Quixote story.
I don't know anything about that, but Soul Calibre, what a game, dude.
It's a modern day Soul Calibre story.
So, one other thing in the opening credits is you get that moment
where there's an executive producer credit for Steven Manuchin, Secretary of the Treasury,
who's a real piece of garbage. So that's a nice moment when you're like, oh, when I
rented this on iTunes, he got a penny from it. I don't like that. Yeah, I don't like
that at all. Oh, man. So that's basically where my notes end. No. Okay, well, I'll take over from here.
Yeah, you can take over. I'll jump in.
Okay, we cut to Catherine Hygol is putting on makeup and the allowing.
Oh, I love this part.
She is allowing her daughter to put on a drop of her perfume and then she says, now you're
perfect. Just like mommy.
I want a great introduction.
She's a real, and so she's the ex-wife of Rosario Dawson's fiance.
And she's being kind of polite, but the music tells us she's very creepy.
She's very controlling.
She's a real robo lady, a real step for ex-wife.
She's an ice queen stereotype, basically.
Yeah, and not the fun type of ice queen like in Frozen, where she has ice powers and sings songs
about letting it go.
She does never sings a song and she does not have ice powers.
It's not the power to freeze Rosario Dawson with fear.
And give audiences the chills.
Yes, Dan?
And we say let it go.
What is it?
The restrictions that she's had through her life before then.
I mean, the song makes a lot of sense in the context of the film, Dan.
Up until that point, she's been told she can never use her powers in public.
She has to pretend to be someone she's not.
And now you know what?
She's already in trouble.
She's often a frozen wasteland.
Let's just make an ice castle for herself, all Dr. Manhattan on Mars and Watchman, and
who makes a castle out
of glass sand.
And, uh, he's just like, let it go.
I mean, the lyrics of you ever listened to it are not, if you've ever listened to the
movie version are all about, I have these powers, and I'm just going to see how far I can
go with them.
The Demi Lovato radio version is not about that at all.
It seems to be about a relationship gone bad.
Well, I ask a stupid question, get a serious answer, I guess.
Yeah, that's the old al-jaffe department at Mad.
And serious answers to stupid questions.
We're like, it would have someone being like, good Friday.
What's so good about it?
They crucified them.
And this person would be like, well,
it's a different understanding of the word good
than you're using right now.
It embodies, you know, the good news that mankind can be redeemed of their individual
sent an original sin through the blood and the suffering of Christ.
And the person who asked the question is like, I just kind of wanted to make a joke real
fast.
I'm in the answer.
I don't know if you noticed this.
I'm a dad making jokes over here.
And the answer was like, oh, I'm so sorry.
I didn't realize you were a dad.
Go about your business. You just show your dad license and you're
allowed to make any dumb joke you want. So anyway, Rosario Dawson and
Herfiance, who I don't remember his name, he is like the
blandest, dullest, white man type of character. He is like, and he used to be
an upused to work in finance. Now he's achieved his dream of opening up a
micro brew.
And it is.
He's fucking hate this guy.
Everything about him is so hateful.
He's like, you know that he was like a fucking college
lacrosse player or some shit.
And like had a ton of fun with his buddies,
chat and goober back at the frat house.
And probably was terrible to women.
And now he's just a winner all through life.
He never has to shave. He always has a little bit of stubble.
Because you know what? It looks, if he's a little disheveled, it looks super sexy.
But not enough stubble. I watched this with a friend and she was very adamant that anyone
starting up their own micro brewery should have had a full beard. Like that was the thing
you found least believable about this movie.
Yeah. You don't never really see him,, you don't ever really see him,
you also don't ever really see him like work.
No, nobody ever has to work in this movie.
They have so much time to just wander around eating lunch
and just talking to each other and getting into tension.
They never seem to have to do anything.
It's even as parents, because the herfiancé has again,
this like almost tween daughter with Catherine Hyggell,
they don't ever have to do that much parenting,
but anyway, there's a moment,
so they're taking the daughter for the weekend.
And there's a moment where the daughter, I guess,
I don't know if she had a bad dream,
but she crawls into bed with her dad
and her stepmom to be,
and it cuts to Catherine Hygell in her bed at her house.
And she briefly awakens, because her paranoia sense that she might be and it cuts to Catherine Hydele in her bed at her house. And she briefly awakens because her paranoia sense
that she might be being replaced, like triggers something.
It's amazing, yeah.
It's one of those moments where you're like,
is she like an otherworldly creature?
Like is it possible that is it possible
that Catherine Hydele is actually like a dry ad
or something like that?
Like I don't know.
She certainly possessed by some kind of demon
and we'll get to that more later.
Oh yes.
So yeah, at that point.
I was up.
So at that point, the dad can't make dinner.
Catherine Heigel shows up on an ounce at dinner
where Rosario Dawson is cooking
and she is kind of shitty to her.
She makes pasta because Rosario Dawson's food
is too spicy for her daughter.
Too spicy because her daughter is only been exposed
to the most Caucasian of foods, I assume.
And the hint of an ethnicity that comes with Rosario Dawson
is just too much.
It's this macaroni and queso is just too spicy, I guess.
Sure.
This is a very, what's weird about this movie
is that you could totally see this movie.
Maybe it's the Stephen Manuchin connection, I don't know.
But it's like, you could totally see it
as a kind of Trump movie where it's like these non-white women
are coming in and stealing our white husbands
from our white selves and our white daughters
and they're cooking them spicy food.
This is outrageous.
Her hair isn't even the right color.
Like, there's a, maybe it taps into something,
you know, a real sense of anxiety
that the Catherine Higles of the world
have now in Middle America.
And in the wealthier enclaves of the suburbs.
What do you guys think?
Yeah, I mean, they keep talking about
how this is a small town.
But the only houses we see in this small town are really big. All right, enormous. And I don't think a small town, but the only houses we see in this small town are really big.
All right, enormous.
And I don't think that small town has the labor
to run a brewery like that.
Well, you don't know, they actually live in Galt's Galtch
from the Atlas Shrugged books.
We're in all the creators Atlas Shrugged books.
The one book, I thought it was,
because they made that movie that I've ever liked. It's like trilogy. It's yeah, the Atlas Shrugged books. The one book, I thought it was. Because they made that movie that a bit like.
Trilogy.
Yeah, the Atlas Shrugged trilogy.
They live in Galt's Gulch,
where all the makers and creators went
to get away from all the takers and the leeches.
So that guy, I assume, all the rich people just kick in
and help each other clean their own houses
and run their own breweries.
But everyone in the movie seems to be super just wealthy
and have no cares in the world,
except that their lives might be stolen
by this woman from San Francisco.
Something we learn.
Rosario Dawson's restraining order
against her abusive ex-boyfriend has expired.
Because she gets a piece of mail that tells her this.
And also, Rosario Dawson makes it clear,
she's not on Facebook.
Why would she be on Facebook?
She only works at a website.
She only works in the world of social marketing
and online media.
Why would she be on Facebook?
I mean, I was under the impression she was on Facebook
because after this abusive relationship,
she deleted all that shit.
That's probably it, that makes sense.
I mean, that's...
You know what?
I retract it, movie, make more sense than I thought.
So it moves after this situation, you know,
Rosario Dawson's explaining that she wants to be,
she wants to be good at being, you know, a mom in this case.
So she is working on, she's working on this big activity board,
which is the real lesson of the movie, guys, activity schedules.
That's the thing that's really unforgettable. Am I right? No, it's very
forgettable. That's why you need the boors. Oh, okay. So cut to a scene of
Catherine Haigel doing some angry horse riding. Yeah, you skipped right
angry 3D. Yeah, you skipped the part where in the middle of the night,
Rosar Dawson hears a creepy noise.
No, it's just the daughter's hamster.
No, wait, that's her boyfriend at the window.
Oh, no, wait, it's her fiance at the door.
And he likes her food.
And it was like the movie just didn't want to commit
to anyone jump scare.
It was like, it kept coming up with new ideas
and just throwing them out at you.
But it was the rare moment in the movie
where up to this point, anything was really happening.
It felt like a movie that was content to kind of like sit around
and wait for something to happen. Yeah, yeah.
It was just kind of interact and be around real cinema.
Are you including the jump scare where he eats some food and you're, and he likes it and
you're like, Oh, no, that was the food. Carthorneigle made. And then he's like, No, it's your
food. I would like it. I would like it. The movie just continued like doing jump stairs,
scares after the guy came home. Like it was just like, oh, something's on the porch. Oh, it's a
raccoon. And then like she goes to bed and she like does that thing where she closes the mirror on the,
on the, what do you call it? Above the sink. Yeah. And someone standing behind her and it was just like, oh, my mom came to visit.
Yep. And she picks up some mail and she's like, oh, no, it's a bill. Oh, no, it's for someone else.
Because bills are the really scary thing. Am I right guys? Yeah, yeah.
The Buffalo bills are a scary football team. So
and end of scary serial killer. Yeah. So now we're introduced to we have what a dedication ceremony for the
Brewery and that's where before that it's parent before that it's parents day at school
Uh-huh
And I was I was watching the scene with my wife and she described
Catherine Hegel gives her daughter what my wife described as the least affectionate hug I've ever seen and
Hegel sees them all like leaving without her.
And it was at this point that I was kind of curious as to why Katherine Hygol didn't get
to spend any time with her daughter, but we learn why later.
Go to the, okay, the brewery is opening.
Stu, what happens?
Uh, yeah, I don't know.
That's where you're introduced to what this guy does for a living.
And yeah, I just don't like this guy, man, like, uh, and we're also introduced to the
idea that Katherine Hygol, I guess don't like this guy, man. And we're also introduced to the idea that
Katherine Haigle, I guess, is still a partner.
I'm assuming she was part of the, she owns part of the brewery.
They make jokes about how she won't even drink beer.
And-
She takes the microphone at the ceremony and says,
she wasn't thrilled that he was chasing his beer dream,
but she wishes him the best.
And it's very clear from her tone
that she does not wish him the best. And it's very clear from her tone that she does not wish him the best.
And she's also wearing the white dress
that Rosario Dawson had tried on earlier that day
to be a possible wedding dress.
That's, yeah.
Rosario Dawson stopped at Katherine Higle's favorite
dress shop and tried on some dresses.
She bought one, but she didn't buy that white dress.
And I should mention,
we know that Catherine Haigel wishes only the worst for everybody and is a bad person
because as you mentioned, we saw her intensely riding a horse. And for some reason that I
can't quite understand, riding a horse, a woman riding a horse in the movies has become
shorthand for a, she's a bitch. Like if a woman is riding a, if a woman is in jobpers
and a riding cap and is riding jumping a horse over some hurdles, it's like, oh, damn, she must be a total, she's a
total shrew.
Well, she should be interested in communing with this animal for a moment.
That's how I felt when I'd watch Mad Men and I'm like, now that's, I get why Don draper
is such an asshole to people.
Yeah, because he's got to come home to this horse writing lady.
It's true though, like I mean, I assume that the shorthand to this horse riding lady. It's true though.
I mean, I assume that the shorthand here is like, oh, she's a rich person.
She's from the upper classes.
That's what most horse riders are in culture.
I mean, not really, probably, but it takes a lot of money in what Western culture, right?
In Western culture? Not like Yeah. In Western culture.
Not like Wild West, but like,
I was like, what, I'm assuming there's cultures
where like everybody rides horses.
Yeah.
Yeah, and also sometimes a woman
is just riding a horse off a diving board
because wild hearts can't be broken.
Yeah, she's not a bitch at all.
But I feel like especially in,
I think it's real more of an East Coast thing
where people cannot afford to ride horses
unless they're wealthy.
It's like, up, she's riding a horse,
either she's a real jerk,
or she's like the prim daughter of a rich man,
and some scruffy guy from the streets
is gonna have to teach her the ropes of life.
And it's how she's dressed.
If she was wearing like a fucking flannel shirt
and just some jeans, people'd be all about it, right?
People'd be like, yeah.
Then she just assumed she's gonna go
O's for on HGTV show where she like,
she's doing all the construction herself
with her O's of a husband.
Mm-hmm.
I wanna say, I'd be called
that Don't Impress Me Much, right?
Ha ha ha.
Yeah.
Dan, you assume? No, I want to-
But just a mistake because when you assume-
Well, you assume that I said-
You assume because I said I want to say, which sounds kind of like assume, but not
really.
I miss her.
Okay, I'll save my dad joke for later.
Dan, you wanted to say.
Dan, as Dave Matthews once said, what would you say?
I would say that I, even though she's being coded very obviously as being a villainous,
true woman, I, I had a lot of sympathy for Catherine Haigel early in the movie because, you know,
she's being replaced by a new woman in her old life.
She's saying her daughter looked to this new mother figure.
And a woman with, I mean, Rosario Dawson is rightfully so, she has a mysterious past,
like she's not super comfortable sharing all that information with other people.
And if you're trusting this person to basically be a big part of your child's life, I could see
you're nervous about it.
And I sort of, I sort of like enjoy that the movie spent a little time sort of giving this villainous character a little depth.
Yeah.
Like, you know, a reason.
Yeah, I agree.
Yeah, I agree.
She is, this is the kind of movie where the mother,
a mother sings aloe weta to her daughter and it's presented as a chilling moment.
This should be, this should haunt your dreams till the end of your days.
Is that more like upper class coding?
It's just like oh this woman knows French.
She's no good.
I think so.
Yeah. But I would yeah she is this new woman's coming into life that she doesn't really know
is going to be taking care of her daughter.
And this woman, Rosario Dawson from San Francisco, best case scenario, she's a full house.
Where's case scenario?
She's a zodiac killer.
Yeah. I, come on
so
this
So that you know this party goes on
Rosario Dawson is dancing with her
her fiance and
Catherine Hygge, but she'd left her phone sitting out of table, which is crazy. Why you do Rosario Dawson did yeah and
She's receiving text messages from I'm assuming Whitney Cummings.
And the whole since there's since since no other human being has been established
in the world in this movie, you have to assume it's Whitney Cummings.
Yeah. And the she, of course, is getting the text messages and the whole
text is popping up on the screen, which is crazy.
Why you be doing that?
Why don't you fix your phone? Fix your phone. So, Katherine, I will see these texts and realize, oh my god, they're engaged, they're going to get married. So, she steals the phone and has
sex with, has angry sex with one of the guys who works there. Yes, I'm dude.
But it's a stranger in a car in the rain. Yeah.
And then she lets him out of the, she's having used and abused him.
She lets him out in the rain, refuses to drive him anywhere and speeds off.
She goes, she dismounts and then goes, go now.
Yeah.
And it's raining very hard for Southern California.
I'll just say that right there.
Mm-hmm.
It's one of the rare sex monsoons
that we have. When someone has angry sex in the car, huge rains. It does terrible damage
to property. I don't know if you saw in the credits, but they snuck a little Easter
egg in there for real fans. That character's name is.
Real millions of what? Unpregettable. Yeah. The character's name is for the, for the, for the, for the forget ahead.
Yeah.
The character's name is Horace, which sounds a lot like Horace because she rides them
when angry.
And I just made all that up.
So his name is not Horace?
I don't know.
It was a joke.
Come on.
Life a little.
I thought you were positive in some sort of unforgettable Louis CK cinematic universe or that's
Horace from Horace and Pete.
Uh-huh.
Louis CK's sadness show.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And unforgettable, just as funny as Horace and Pete.
Or he's Mickey's friend, Horace Horse Feather.
The horse character.
I thought his name was Horace Horse Collar.
I think it's Horace Horse Fe feather, but we can look it up later
In either in either case, it's funny. Well, you know, just laugh. It's funny listeners
right in the right and and way in on the horse feather horse collar debate send in your questions
We'll be doing a live debate on CNN in three weeks and I will be answering some of your questions about this
Oh, you're right. It's a horse collar
I look so happy. Well, Lizards, don't send in your questions.
The debate is over.
I won.
Oh, yeah.
I'm now the president of, I guess,
a Disney characters.
Ellie, it's dabbing over there.
That's crazy.
What?
Oh, wow.
You are a dab.
Don't even worry.
Yeah, I don't know what that means.
What do that mean?
Well, so she, the only thing Stewart, the only thing I'm dabbing is paint onto this old
car that I'm restoring in my garage, because I'm a dad now.
The only thing you're dabbing is barbecue sauce off of your, your, what, the college sweater
you're wearing?
Like my apron that says, kiss me, I'm'm Irish and the joke is I'm not Irish.
So anyway, Catherine Hygel goes to one of my favorite things, which is a really
fakie internet search engine. She goes to backgroundprobe.com and she gets
the password to Rosary Dawson's phone and links the phone to Rosary Dawson's computer.
Now guys, I don't wanna call you guys out right now,
but do you guys ever use the digits
from your birthday as a password?
Because that seems crazy.
Yeah, that does seem crazy.
I don't really wanna talk about what I use
as my password to use the digits on my birthday.
Okay, but so it seems like it's not obvious.
My password is 1, 2, 3, Elliot.
Oh, wow.
You change your tune pretty quick, Elliot.
Well, you know, that's just, okay,
well, let me tell you what my password is.
Burrio, okay. My password is...
The daily up.
The daily up. Oh, you know it already. Yeah.
But, Dan, what's the second password?
There is no second password.
Damn. Okay. You got through my system. All right. Well, I guess welcome to my
mask, Torji. How's it going?
It's just the two of us. I guess I am.
Yeah. I'm kind of waiting for other people to show up.
I was like, I believe.
I guess the password is because I was getting pretty bored just sitting here naked in a
mask eating to stitos by myself.
Yeah, I guess until anybody else shows up, we should just play some part cheesy or something.
Yeah, that is the sexiest of the board games.
Yeah, let's set it up.
I don't know how to play it, but okay, or you could just have some of these olives.
There's just bowls of olives everywhere.
That's a pretty sexy snack, right?
Yeah, you eat it with your hands.
Yeah, and you can pretend it switches eyeball.
I mean, most snacks eat with your hands.
Okay, unless you're bobbing for olives.
Yeah.
So, that's either incredibly difficult or incredibly easy.
Depends on the olives to water ratio.
Yeah, it's the brine really gets in your eyes.
The traditional story of L.A.
It's a game bobbing for olives.
Now the hard part too is when you're bobbing for the olives and your mask keeps slipping off.
So I've learned your identity of the secret, the latest orgy.
But Dan, you guessed the password.
So I guess you go first, take off your clothes
and start bobbin for olives.
Okay.
So I love when they pop open,
I love it when they pop open,
Rosario Dawson's phone.
She just has all of her important documents on it.
She has her documents on her phone somehow.
Like, do you guys do that?
Am I doing being an adult wrong?
Yeah.
Like, right now, I need to-
You just to keep it all in one place.
I need to get a new watch band for a watch that I love.
And I don't know how to do that.
So what do I do?
There's like a nice like watch, a repair shop on Vanderbilt actually that probably could
hook you right up.
But uh, guys, oh, wow.
Okay.
You know, right there local Brooklyn, uh, promotion of local Brooklyn businesses.
Let's save it for your podcast, Clockers, which is all about local watch repair shops.
And we'll go on to, or your other podcast, The Build Boys, where you talk about businesses on Vanderbilt, Brooklyn.
Let's talk about that later.
Now, Clockers is different than Clock Stoppers,
my podcast where I just talk about the movie Clock Stoppers.
Yeah, very different.
Now, Catherine Heigel finds a selfie of Rosario Dawson in bed
with her fiance, and she reacts to it physically.
Like it shakes her to the core.
So no wonder that she looks up this abusive
ex-boyfriend on Facebook,
and then contacts him pretending to be Rosario Dawson.
Buh, buh, buh, buh.
I was watching this with, I was watching this with Charlene,
and she was talking to the movie at this point.
She's like, don't do that.
She's gonna connect to him on Facebook,
which is a really weird option to have
in that background check website.
I mean, I guess if you're using that background check,
what, wait, background, what's the fucking name
of the website?
Probe.com. Yeah. I guess if you're using that background check, wait, background, what's the fucking name of what sound probe?
Yeah.
I guess if you're using background probe.com is a way to like find old people you went to
high school with that for some reason you didn't immediately just go to Facebook for.
I guess I see why you would have a connect to this person on Facebook hot link on that
page, but that's
seems weird.
Another thing about the movie that actually makes a lot of sense when we dig into it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I guess the movie is perfect.
It's like a steel trap.
It's so tight.
So anyway, Catherine Higel is setting things up.
She, Catherine Higel's mom comes to visit and she's played by Cheryl Ladd.
She is, you see where Catherine Higol comes from because she is a kind of
brutally critical blonde wealth bot. She is to Catherine Hygol, what Catherine Hygol
is to a normal person. It's just exponentially more critical and emotionless and wealthy and
blonde. And she must ride like seven horses at once.
Like, that's what I get from this.
Or maybe she rides like a giraffe, I don't know.
I had to slam on the pause button
and then go to information on this movie
because for a second I thought, did somebody,
did the TV just change to the movie The Granny,
which is a horror movie about an evil monster
granny?
But you know what?
No, I was actually watching the movie unforgettable, which is what we're talking about today.
That's amazing.
You're fine.
Glad you spun that yarn for us.
So her mom is, she's, Catherine Higle says, I think I'm going to have to get a job.
And her mom is like, no, you don't.
You should just get a new David. You ruined your last I'm gonna have to get a job and her mom's like, no, you don't you should just get a new David You ruined your last marriage you have to get a new one and Catherine Higle sadly watches her wedding video as she overhears her mother
Criticizing her daughter and it's like and it's another moment
We're like, okay now I kind of sympathize with Catherine Higle like she's it she wasn't born a monster. She was made a monster
This is you know what I have sympathy for this devil. Who, who? Oh, wow. Yeah, the song's out. I love it. And yeah.
Resort your Dawson meets with some of her fiance's friends, and they all talk about how
they like coming over to the house now that Katherine Hygol doesn't live there because before when they would come
over they'd always have to be walking on eggshells.
What is the music parody of?
It's not parody of walking in Memphis.
Okay, because I would have I would have not do walking on broken glass.
I guess.
I mean, that's not in song.
It's not not my range.
Dan, what song about walking would you have used?
I'm like, I'm like when you sang it where you were pitch perfect on that one.
Perfect pitch.
Because I also, you also got to go, I'm walking on egg shells.
Whoa.
And don't feel bad.
Yeah.
Just no song for like, I go out walking on some egg shells.
After midnight. No, wait, but guys. to high girls house guys, but I'm walking on eggshells
Okay, you know what I don't recognize once shame on you don't recognize the song twice shame on me. That's on us. Oh
Man, okay, you're on eggshells
It's not a walking song. I guess we do it a lot as a human being it's a common human experience. Yeah
So we now cut to a scene where there's a lot of songs about love.
Why is that?
I mean, we don't say, you know, we're seeing a lot of songs about breathing other than the
air that I breathe.
And every breath you take.
Okay, that's true.
And what's that, what breathe by Pink Floyd?
Alright.
Fine.
But there's not a lot of songs about pooping.
Why is that?
Let me introduce you to a bunch of heavy metal songs.
There is a YouTube video where a little girl sings a parody
of Let It Go called Let Me Poop.
And she literally, there's a new verse for every verse.
Like, she really goes all out with it.
So if you want to hear something about poop, that's one.
Anyway, so what, is this one we learned that, that Katherine
Heigel actually cheated on her husband, David, and that's why the marriage broke up?
Yeah, that's somewhere around here. Is that where they, when they go to that Mexican restaurant
that is very well appointed? Oh, maybe that's earlier. Yeah, I can't remember. Yeah,
the, uh, Katherine Heigel has lunch with Rosaria Dawson at a, at a Mexican restaurant where
they think they both just have green salads.
And it's still an in-bridge.
And by green salads, you mean,
a ton of margaritas, baby.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, they are ladies,
buying expensive dresses in the middle of the day
with nothing to do.
And I couldn't take my eyes off of the statues
in this restaurant.
There's all these sombreros and sleepy guys wearing some braero statues in the restaurant. Like there's all these some brairos and like, like sleepy guys wearing some brairo statues
in the restaurant, it's really great.
So it's called PJ Racists is what you're saying.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, I don't know.
It's in Southern California.
Isn't there a lot of great Mexican food
in Southern California?
Yeah, I'm sure.
There is.
They tend not to have sleepy some brairo statues
in restaurants. So yeah, yeah. Listen, my, I know I've only been here for a few months.
Maybe I haven't been to most of the restaurants.
I mean, this seems like a pretty affluent white town.
Like I feel like most of the restaurant's
are racist caricatures.
I have to assume this is my backstory for that restaurant.
Much like David, the the fiance quit is job to open a brewery.
There was some young stockbroker,
who now he's not young anymore.
Now he's approaching 40, or he's in his early 40s.
He's like, I always wanted to open a Mexican restaurant,
but he doesn't know anything about Mexico
or Mexican food, so he fills it full of some brairos,
and they just serve like hot dogs and salads,
but they call it Mexican food,
because you can have a margarita with it.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, technically, if they get taken to kids court, but they call it Mexican food because you can have a margarita with it.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, technically, technically, if they get taken to kids court, they can prove it.
It's called the name of his Jose tequila shots, and that's the Mexican restaurant in town.
So around this time, around this time, we're introduced to the idea that Rosaria Dawson is obviously freaking out.
Somebody, she's missing her engagement ring. She's getting
a lot of anonymous phone calls. Mm-hmm. And her engagement ring is missing. And, and we
also see a mysterious, but gloved person, uh, steal into the home while Rosari Adossens
about to take a bath. In the middle of the day. I don't know what her lifestyles like,
dude. Sometimes you just need a bath. She's super stressed out.
And she's super stressed out.
She almost goes back to smoking cigarettes,
which is a sign of being stressed out.
Haven't you taken a shower in the middle of the day,
where you're just like, the morning has gotten away
from you, you're just like,
slabbing around the house.
I guess so.
So here's the setup.
You're right, you're making a big,
slabbing around the house. The end was eating a so. So here's the setup. Dan was making a big slapping around the house.
Dan was eating a big bowl of chili.
It got all over himself and he's like,
I can't go out tonight covered in chili.
I might as well take a shower.
Okay, fair point.
Yeah, because he's got it all in his hair.
He was also, he was also
a real chili boy.
Yeah.
Is that, is that,
Dan, that's the dating type that you are that you list on dating websites?
Yeah.
I'm a real chilly boy.
I'm a real chilly boy.
I'm looking for a single woman.
Yeah.
I'm spicy and messy.
I'm a real chilly boy.
Looking for somebody who can stop me up.
Oh, gross.
So.
Okay.
So, sorry, I'm not gonna almost smoke cigarettes, but we also see cut to Catherine Hygol
when she's in her like evil lair using the computer
and she's vaping it up because she's a bad guy
or she's just really fancy and refined, right?
Is that what vape is code for?
It's code for fancy and refined,
like Java, the original vapor.
Sure.
I would like to say, I would like to think
that like there's pot in there
and like she's a secretly like a pot head.
I mean, maybe it's, you know, the SoCal lifestyle.
Yeah, sure.
But you think she wouldn't be so uptight?
Yeah, no, but that was a constant pot head.
That's the thing, like she has the kind,
she just keeps getting the kind of pot
that gives you a lot of anxiety.
Like she's got a really bad.
A bizarre pot, the kind of pot
that they grow on bizarre world.
So was this one?
Is this one we have the that that montage, the weird sex montage where
Rosario does.
Yeah.
Has sex with her fiance in a lady's
room.
That's a little bit later.
Let's well, we'll quickly get to
that. Rosario Dawson is bonding
more and more with her future step
daughter. She's having nightmares
about her abuse of ex boyfriend that scene where she was going to have bonding more and more with her future stepdaughter. She's having nightmares about her abusive ex-boyfriend.
That scene where she was going to have a bath that ends with her finding flowers from the
serious stranger on the front door, and she has a very hostile interaction with Katherine
Heigel, who just stops by to drop off some mail.
Also, I'm motivated, body double butt alert, and that seemed to...
Would you check that out on Mr. Skin? No, I remember it from the fucking movie. I watched the movie unforgettable
And I noted the unmotivated body double butt shot. Okay. How do you know it wasn't?
You know it was a result. It's not gonna get naked for unforgettable. Okay. I did for that for that Danny Boyle movie, right?
Yeah, but Danny Boyle is Danny Boyle. Wow, harsh critique of Danny Boyle for Mel.
So anyway, Catherine Higel spends forever making a fake Rosario Dawson Facebook page and chatting
with the abusive ex boyfriend, really getting it turned on, sending her Koi Rosario Dawson pictures.
She stole from her phone. It's kind of hoping it would turn into like a weird episode of that show.
Catfish at this point.
That's when they have their lunch at the Mexican restaurant.
Catherine Heidel says, I had an affair that ruined the marriage.
I have in my notes here, they have huge drinks.
And Catherine Heidel says, the problem is that David, her ex-husband and
Rosario Dawson feels like, is sexually insatiable.
I thought we might get back together, but we didn't.
And he just always needs sex. and Rosario Dawson's face, I'd say, is sexually insatiable. I thought we might get back together, but we didn't.
And he just always needs sex.
And she goes home and has to have those home
and males a pair of Rosario Dawson's underpants
to the abuse of ex-boyfriend.
And a key to the house.
Yes. Rosario Dawson is under such stress right now
that at the local carnival, she loses the daughter
for a split second.
She turns her back thinking she's being followed.
The daughter has run off and this is, to be honest,
if I entrusted my son to somebody and I showed up,
I was like, where's Sammy?
And they're like, oh, I lost him.
I would be fucking pissed.
Like I'd be so mad.
But David starts doubting Rosario Dawson's sanity.
Like he just doesn't seem much about her past.
He's always.
Keep in mind that this is a carnival
where every person is either covered in face paint
or wearing a hat.
So like, yeah, it's like some kind of nightmare hellscape.
It's a basic carnival.
Yeah.
It's all terrifying.
Rosario Dawson and Catherine Heigel
have a fight over the daughter.
Well, Catherine Heigel is forcing the daughter to ride a horse. She's trying
to force her into that mean ice-queen lifestyle. The daughter just doesn't
want it. The daughter chooses Rosario Dawson in front of the grandma shaming
Catherine Haigle particularly and it's like oh damn now it's gonna get really bad.
Here is when we get now we've caught up to the scene
through what it's talking about.
It's an investment dinner with investors of the jewelry.
And Rosario Dawson seems to go into a fugue state
obsessing over Catherine Higel's former sex life
and she pulls her fiance into a bathroom
and they have incredibly intense sex
that neither of them seem to enjoy very much.
We're just smashing furniture over and stuff, slamming into walls, and the looks on their faces are like,
both of them thinks the other one wants to do this, but neither of them want to, so they just look really grim and upset the whole time.
It's terrible.
And this is intercut with shots of Catherine Haigle having, what like, chat, chat sex with.
It's called cyber sex.
So sorry.
She's cybering with the ex boyfriend.
So she's cybering with the ex boyfriend.
Well, pretend you have your ex boyfriend.
You said boyfriend,
while it pertained to be Rosario Dawson,
while pleasuring herself.
And yeah, it's just a whole sad scene,
which was made more enjoyable by watching it with my wife who kept complaining that you don't get to see the guys butt.
The, here's the thing about this scene.
There's a, this movie up till this point is kind of like, is kind of halfway dull, halfway
has potential to be a crazy movie.
And I feel like it's this scene where the movie is just like Fuck it. We're going all the way. This is a crazy movie
Yeah, and you have this like double terrible sex scene where Rosario Dawson and her husband are
Engaging in this grim unenjoyable bathroom trist where they're like tearing at each other. It's almost like it like
They are they both hope that they're gonna wake up
from this at any moment, it's just gonna be a terrible dream that they had.
And Catherine Hygel is basically doing what happens in showtime TV shows, like the
show or Cinemax TV shows, like it's that, the movie's just like, you know what, why are
we hiding anymore?
Let's just be a crazy movie.
Guys, guys, let's stop pretending.
We're crazy.
It's gonna be crazy.
Yeah, but a crazy movie that's unwilling to show
this fellow's bottom.
Hey, it's crazy, but that doesn't mean it has to be vulgar.
It's double-strander man.
This is the show in Masaru Dawson's butt.
Come on.
So you said it was a double-dan. I'm using shorthand, Ellie. So you'rero Dawson's butt. Come on. So you said it was a double, Dan.
I'm using a shorthand, Ellie.
So you mentioned that we were expecting some kind of fallout
from the daughter shaming her mother in front of the grandmother.
Right.
And boy, do we get it?
Because Catherine Heigel then uses this as an opportunity
to cut her daughter's hair
very short, revealing that this little girl's either wearing a super bad wig at this point, or the
first hair was a super bad wig. I can't tell which was which. You don't think they shot the movie
in sequence and actually cut her hair? And died it? Because it's like she's a burnette at this point.
because it's like she's a bird net at this point. Yeah, I mean, that's possible that that's what happened.
So which one do you think of the wig came in?
I think it was always a wig.
I think it's a wig now.
I think that little girl has naturally very blonde hair.
So would you say that Katherine Haigler at this point is wigging out?
I mean, I would say that yeah.
It's a dad joke again. A joke from a dad. So it's bad. I'm not sure if I can say that. I'm not sure if I can say that. I'm not sure if I can say that.
I'm not sure if I can say that.
I'm not sure if I can say that.
I'm not sure if I can say that.
I'm not sure if I can say that.
I'm not sure if I can say that.
I'm not sure if I can say that.
I'm not sure if I can say that.
I'm not sure if I can say that.
I'm not sure if I can say that.
I'm not sure if I can say that. I'm not sure if I can say that. I'm not sure if I can say that. I'm not sure if I can say that. four lines. You've mutilated her. Yeah, you took one of her fingers in the form of hair,
which will grow back. And that's introduced in a scene right before
Rosaria Dawson is backed up the stairs by Catherine Heigel, and then when she gets to the top of the
stairs, she does a little bit of play acting and then falls down the stairs as if Rosaria Dawson
pushed her. Yeah. And everyone assumes Rosario Dawson did it.
Clearly, he gives her the benefit of the doubt.
Yeah, this is one of my problems with movies like this is, um, you know, these
ostensibly loving relationships as soon as someone starts getting gaslit, like the husband
always like is like immediately doubting this guy is such a fucking idiot asshole.
Like at the, at this is clearly the point where Rosario Dawson would go to him and say,
look dude, your ex-wife is fucking with me.
Deal with it. She threw herself down the stairs.
He knows his ex-wife is crazy. He doesn't like, he knows that.
That's the thing. Does he? Like he's such an oblivious fucking He doesn't like, he knows that that's a thing. Does he like
he's such an oblivious fucking moron that like he is like I don't want to get political
again. But this guy is like the movie embodiment of white male privilege where he just kind
of he just kind of hovers through life and does whatever he wants. Never the fact that
he is a daughter and his fiancee comes in from San Francisco and he immediately is like take care of my kid
I got to go do some shit like that's crazy
He like he never does anything. Yeah, like does he just assume he's like yeah, you know my ex-wife
Yeah, she's high. She's got high standards or something like what?
She's clearly like he dated her since college, right?
They don't look that young,
so he's known her a long time.
Like, I don't think they ever spent that much time together, though.
Yes.
One of those couples where they were always kind of like
doing different things,
and they just kind of came together
to have joyless bathrooms,
sex at investor dinners,
and they had a daughter once,
and they were like, oh, he's like,
now this is your job.
You take care of her.
I'm going to go drink beer for a living and never shave.
Anyway, got to go for that mountain hiking trip with my buds.
See you.
Hey, money.
Can you take care of making all the food and doing all the shopping and buying the clothes
for her?
Because I'm spending a lot of time pricing out camping gear.
I really need to get the best sleeping bag.
Well, this feels like it's coming from a really real place inside.
Yeah.
Is it here to for a untapped my well of like bitterness on all the
things?
You can go camping if you want.
Yeah, it's okay.
It doesn't make you a bad dad, dude.
You can go on a camping trip if you want.
No, I can't do it.
I can't do it because it would make me a bad dad.
No, but he seems like the kind of guy who spends a lot of his time
talking to his friends about expensive things to buy.
Yeah.
Either watches or suits or sporting gear or like,
he's really into sports, but he likes to talk about the equipment more than anything else.
Yeah, yeah, it's the he's like a lifestyle brand type guy.
He is like a walking lifestyle brand. He's you he like walked right out of a bonobo suit catalog like a like a GQ one of those pages where it's like, what's the best
type of fountain pen to buy?
Something like that.
You know he watches Mad Men and he's like, oh, if only those were the days, right?
And totally doesn't get what the show is about.
You all like to think of myself as a real Don Draper.
What an asshole.
Anyway, so he doesn't believe Rosario Dawson.
And it's this, at this point that her voice gets more and more gravely as the movie goes on and she
gets sadder.
It's like, you can track where her psyche is by how much vocal for I, as she's admitting.
And this is where she brings in a little bit of reinforcements.
Her friend comes down from San Francisco and they do a little bit of internet hacking.
Right?
That's right.
They start hacking the mainframe.
They ride the Nexus into the hyperloop.
Yep.
And so she, they find, of course, Katherine Heigel's got a couple skeletons in her closet.
That she has what?
What's the skeleton?
She's kind of a house.
She burned down.
She found out her dad was being unfaithful to her mom,
and she burned down her dad's house,
but she was a miner, so the records were sealed.
Yeah, yeah, we got sealed records.
I feel like sealed records of a miner
is now like all-purpose thriller go to like plot device.
Well, it's so easy to look up somebody's background online now.
Like it used to be that you could have a whole thriller, and then at the end, it turns out,
oh, she spent time in an insane asylum.
I never knew that, but now you just find that stuff really easily.
So it's got to be sealed records.
And while I found this movie's handling of something like this a little bit insensitive,
or seal records, or seal records, like Kiss by a Rose.
Anyway, Dan, I'm glad you made that chip.
And I don't know what the name of the record is, Kiss by a Rose. Anyway, Dan. I'm glad you made that chip. I don't know what the name of the record is,
Kiss by a Rose, I think that's just the song.
But I feel like this movie's a little bit insensitive
with dealing with a minor who is clearly the product
of a bad situation
and using that as in crimining evidence against her,
whereas on a show like Crazy X Girlfriend,
I still find, I still like the way that show handles it,
which has some eerily similar plot elements to unforgettable.
Well, I mean, the tone is different
and the Crazy X Girlfriend is the protagonist of that show even though she is a sociopath.
Yeah.
And it's performed by the very charming Rachel Bloom.
And the songs? How many new songs do they have every episode? It's amazing.
Yeah, this movie, no songs.
Yeah. Stuart Wellington gives this movie one star.
And as a review, he says, this is a star in his review. He says this is
produced two words no songs. It's no crazy extra all-friends.
Stuart Wellington gave the movie Zanadu five stars. He said lots of songs.
Yeah, I'm basically writing I'm writing movie reviews just so that Amazon movie reviews will retweet me.
Now you wonder, you're like how she should talk to David, her fiancee about what she's just learned. Clearly.
He's on a business trip.
He'll deal with this Catherine Heigel situation later.
Honey, I know you're being gaslit right now by my ex-wife.
I got to go on this business trip.
So I'll see you later.
But then Rosar does and comes home one day from somewhere
and who does she discover in her house,
her ex-boyfriend, bump, bump, bump, bump.
They have a confrontation.
She escapes by stabbing him in the leg.
She moves out.
And we know at this point that this guy's gonna die.
Like this was in the opening of the movie.
Yeah, if we were in the movie... Yeah, if we were in the movie, opening of the movie. Like this was in the opening of the movie. Yeah, opening the movie.
I was opening on the movie.
I thought it was unforgettable.
So I was a little nervous when this character showed up
because I was a little nervous that this abuse of boyfriend
was gonna show up and just get accidentally killed
by Rosario Dawson.
Like she had been so gaslit that she just killed him
upon seeing him.
Yeah, but luckily he's given a chance to be, because I would have sent a fucked up message
that this abuser doesn't deserve, you know, whatever happens to him kind of, but luckily he
is a fucking total asshole before he dies.
So I don't know.
I was just a little nervous that the movie was going to try and say something like, you know who the real monster is,
not this abusive boyfriend, but Catherine Haigel.
It was gonna be a real witch hunt for abusive boyfriend.
But no, he slams her into a wall
and is a real jackass.
Let's just say that.
And she's that.
I think that's a wild piece of a weak term.
So we go with Jesus.
Let's call the jelly, it's really brave of you. He's being violent. What is he? Let's just say he's a week term. Yeah, let's go to the jelly.
It's really brave.
Yeah, he's being what is he?
Let's just say he's a real he's a real piece of work.
Yeah, what is he going to go camping?
Yeah, she runs out and Catherine Haigel walks in and is like,
she's in full super villain mode.
She's like, oh, you ruined it.
You screwed up and stabs him to death through the chest.
Thus killing him.
Thank you.
Yeah, she basically like hits the off switch on him.
Like as soon as that knife goes in, he's done so.
And so she, the police pick up Rosario Dawson because as a new person in town who is not
fully white, she's the first suspect.
Has to be. Yeah. It's all the evidence is circumstantial so she's the first suspect, has to be.
Yeah.
It's all the evidence is circumstantial,
so they can't hold her,
but they clearly think that she did it.
Meanwhile, Katherine Heigel brushes her hair
and puts her ring back on like an evil robot.
And her fiance shows up to the police station,
the police give them, give him all this,
the like messages that Catherine Heigel
had been sending this guy.
And it makes-
It makes it look like Rosary Dawson was grifting him and was going to steal his money and then
go back to her ex-boyfriend.
The guy, of course, being an asshole totally believes it.
And-
He is so gullible.
He believes it.
He goes back to Catherine Heigel's house
where Catherine Heigel is burning the evidence
and wearing the wedding ring.
He literally walks in on this and he's like,
wait, I figured it out.
Yeah.
It's not like, yeah, like,
Catherine Heigel herself is the evidence that he's such a dumbass.
Like I hate this guy so much that he figures everything out by walking in on it.
Yeah, good work.
Good work, Faro.
Like, that's the only way that he's going to believe that Rosario Dawson isn't a bad guy,
is by walking in on the evidence.
I'm surprised they just didn't have him walking in on her, stabbing the ex boyfriend,
and then was like babe
What's going on, huh? What's happening this guy giving you trouble like and she would have to be like I'm an evil person
Framing your fiance for murder. I killed this man. He'd be like, but what's going on babe? It's like what's like moms
You know moms get worked up
That's what I'm saying moms Moms care about their kids.
Is this like a period thing?
Is that what's going on?
Cause I don't need to know about that.
Oh wow.
That's the kind of stuff they say.
Wow, Elliot's impression of this jerk
really got under Dan's skin.
I just like, even putting that in like the voice
of another person, like, disturbing you.
That's the thing about real art, Dana, sometimes it sounds like LA, it's really cool,
I don't know, but yeah.
And Ardison, just about reconfirming the things
you already love, Dan.
Ardison about challenging you and shaking up the world.
Yeah.
So anyway, he walks in on her and Captain Hagel's,
like Rosario Dawson is stealing my life.
And David's like, I'm out of here.
And so Catherine Higle, what can she do?
She hits him in the head with a fire poker
and knocks him out.
Like, and fucks him up.
He is seriously injured.
Like for a while, I'm worried that this guy's dead.
Like I was like, this could have came to scull him.
Yeah, yeah, cause blood's coming out of every part of that head.
Yeah.
Even the hair follicles, blood's just seeping out of, yeah.
Not like he's got scurvy or whatever.
Yeah, his eyeballs are bleeding.
What if it was that, what if it was the case
that she actually missed him, but he had scurvy.
And it was at that point that he passed out
and was just doing it.
Yeah, it's possible.
What we know about him is that he drinks beer all day.
I don't know what kind of vitamin C he's getting
out of that beer.
I mean, I think I make it like you could probably survive
off beer for a while.
Maybe he's drinking, you know, like a wheat beer
so they put in orange slices in there.
He's getting some vitamin C.
Yeah, or maybe he's drinking,
or maybe he's drinking Guinness back
when they still used fish bladders before it was vegan.
Fish bladders.
Yeah, they use like fish bladders for some shit for a while.
I'm not making this up.
You can't make this stuff up.
Yeah, it's truth is stranger than fiction, Dan.
Literally.
Where they strained up air for fish bladders.
Name one.
Yeah, I think one fiction that's stranger than truth.
Name one stranger than fiction.
Okay. Good point. Okay. It hosted me on my petard, name one. Stranger than fiction. Okay, good point.
Okay, it hosted me on my petart on that one.
Well, it was so obvious, I like it.
It makes sense that you would overlook it.
I didn't think he was going to,
yet it was like the pervoin letter just hiding in plain sight.
So, okay.
So, Rosario Dawson sneaks in Splinter Cell style
and she avoids the patrolling enemy of Catherine Heigel.
She finds.
She gets the daughter, Lily, and puts her in the car.
Which I kind of like, I like that her first instinct is,
I gotta get the little kid out of here
because shit's gonna go down.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And also because worst case scenario,
she has a great daughter instead of a crappy husband.
Yeah.
And I mean, at this point, she's like,
I don't want this little girl to see me beat the shit out of her mom.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Woo!
Yeah, world star, all that stuff.
So anyway.
He knows world star, but not dad.
That's pretty surprising.
Anyway.
Rosario Dawson, so me and my Catherine Haigel
makes some tea and then tapes up David's mouth and hands. And Rosario Dawson, so me and my Catherine Higle make some tea and then tapes up David's mouth and hands
And Rosario Dawson is trying to call 911 and
Catherine Higle is like nope and rips the phone out of the wall and then hits Rosario Dawson with the fire poker
And she gives a speech about how you're worthless. You're worthless. You're trying to steal my life
And at this point the whole time she's holding her up against the wall with this fire poker and I'm like
You know that's not a sword, right? You could just grab it a whole time she's holding her up against the wall with this fire poker. And I'm like,
you know that's not a sword, right? You could just grab it. You should just push it.
It's not sharp just on the side. If you grab onto it, it's fine. Like then she won't be
able to swing it at you. Well, but at this point, Rosary Dawson's been broken down to the
most basic fundamental elements of her personality. She's shattered and she's hitting rock bottom.
And it's that rock bottom that she's able to push off of.
Yeah.
She gets her berserk her strength and goes,
I want my life, not yours.
Pushes her away.
They're grappling.
They're shoving each other.
They break a lot of nice stuff.
They're knocking vases over.
It's just like that bathroom sex scene, except now it's fighting.
But they actually seem to enjoy it a lot more than they did
in the bathroom sex scene.
And they're like choking each other. They're scratching each other. now it's fighting, but they actually seem to enjoy it a lot more than they did in the bathroom sent to him.
And they're like choking each other, they're scratching each other, they're smashing
Catherine Higles head into a glass frame.
Yeah, head to those wild, yeah.
Like, this is not even a cat fight.
This is like a saber tooth tiger fight.
Like, it's crazy.
Yeah, I bet.
And finally, I bet it's fun for the actresses to do that.
I bet that that's a fun scene to do.
What to do like physical stuff like that? Yeah, like an all out drag out to do that. I bet that that's a fun scene to do. What to do like physical stuff like that?
Yeah, like an all out drag out fight like that.
I mean, I would imagine it's fun to, yeah, I don't know.
Like, are you talking like how like military guys
talk about that like, you know,
they might not like the act of violence,
but like their train for it.
So they might as well like the act of being able
to use what they're trained for.
Yeah, that's really rewarding.
That's what I say.
Catherine Haigle is trained for this kind of violence.
Well, I mean, I'm sure she took like,
first leg combat.
She was personally taught by Gremlin Battler.
Yeah.
Yeah.
On the set of the ugly truth, he was like, listen,
you might hopefully you'll never have to use these skills
to battle a Gremlin for Rosario Dawson.
I'm gonna teach him to you.
And while she was shooting this movie,
it was like, oh, my training is coming.
It was just like in a in Karate Kid.
She's like, jarred Butler,
why do I have to wax your car?
You're gonna learn from it.
Trust me.
And then while she's fighting Rosario Dawson,
she's like, oh, I'm using my waxing hand motions
to fight her off in this stage combat.
This is amazing.
Yeah, she's like, Gremlin Baller,
why are you always making me make fires in your fireplace with this fireplace poker? You'll see.
Eventually, Rosario Dawson had managed just to knock Catherine Haigel out. And she
moves to another room. And they have the most incredibly lazy villain returns from
seaming destruction vanquishment where
Catherine Hyde will just walks back into the room very casually. Yeah, like it's like a the moment in every horror movie where you thought they defeated the bad guy
But then the bad guy comes back here. It's literally like
Catherine Hyde will walks into the room as if to be like is the movie over yet are we done? Oh, I mean, I'm a bad guy now
It just is very lazy.
Uh, but then Catherine Heigel sees herself in a mirror with scratches on her face.
Her, her perfect face has been ruined.
She's not perfect like mommy anymore.
Yeah, exactly. And she looks in the, in the reflection.
She says, why do you always ruin everything?
And she's got a knife in her head.
Now she's reached rock bottom.
She's looking at herself in the mirror.
And you know what? She doesn't like what she sees.
Rosarid Dawson is holding a knife
that she's taken from Catherine Heigel and Catherine Heigel,
like a Greek tragic hero of old or a samurai
having failed her master, which in this piece
is her perfect mommy walks onto the knife,
impaling herself, and she says,
and she says, don't let my daughter remember me
like this or something, right? Yeah, she's like, don't tell my daughter remember me like this or something right yeah, she's like don't
Don't tell my daughter that I did this or something. She's like it last the nightmare is over
Which is like I wish I've been gone got she had impaled herself and they're like free at last
Yeah, the curse dies with me. Yeah, I'm not sure how they're gonna keep this from the daughter
I mean the fact that she's like dead of knife wound
from oh no, they're gonna pull a weekend at Bernie's and it's just
Mommy stopped by yeah, Mary and Eddie and her dead body around but this is also the point of the movie where I'm just like
I was I was actually getting like legitimately worried about what was happening in the movie because like
Catherine Higle walked on to a knife that Rosario Dawson was holding
and the police already think
that Rosario Dawson is a bad guy.
So I was like,
we don't know what that guy's brain is gonna be like.
Exactly.
I was like,
you better pray that that guy does not die
because he is the only witness
that could corroborate your version of events
at this point.
To be honest,
if that's the way the movie ended,
here's the better ending of this movie,
where the police show up.
Better ending story.
What?
It said better ending story.
Yeah, just like the hit film, the better ending story.
Where a kid reads a novel and he's like,
this novel didn't end very well.
Let's put a luck dragon in there.
Yeah, let's have the rock fighter drive as fucking big wheel through.
Yeah, super star.
Yeah, I like it.
It would be better for police.
I'm glad that your better ending is Roseanne.
Yeah.
The one.
Your better ending is Roseanne is what I said.
Curse, curse this technology that we're using.
So if Rose, so the way it ends is cut to after the wedding,
they live in San Francisco now. Everybody's happy Whitney cut Whitney Cummings brings in donuts and then Catherine Higel's mom shows up. Uh oh, and she brought a gift
basket to yeah, and she's fucking.
Scary part. She fucking turns to the camera and her fucking eyes turn into cat size.
She fucking turns to the camera and her fucking eyes turn into cat's eyes.
It's it. She turns into what's her name from Peewee's big adventure.
What's the trucker lady's name?
Large March.
Large.
How do you not?
That's like the easiest.
Large March is the easiest name to remember.
I was I wanted to say big bertha, but I knew that wasn't it.
Here's the ending the way it should have ended.
The police show up.
They see Rosario Dawson's fingerprints on this knife.
Rosario Dawson, they think already killed her ex-boyfriend.
Rosario Dawson's fingerprints on the fire poker
because she was struggling with it.
She knows, and they're like, clearly,
Catherine Higle discovered what you wanted,
what you were trying to do in destroying this family,
and you killed everybody.
No, it wasn't me, it wasn't me. And she shows up and they take her away and then the grandma comes
comes by, takes the girl and says like, well, I'm going to raise you right from now on. Cut to the
sequel, unforgettable two. We're the grandma's the bad guy. But no, they didn't do that. Instead,
they still have a grandma coming by, I guess setting it up for the sequel unforgettable to Granny's in town
It's but everybody's living the life great in San Francisco. So I don't know everywhere you look. There's a smile. That's San Francisco
All right, but it's so funny. It's like the movie is like it's so funny how
The movie was just like
Everything's okay, right?
No, it's not.
And you as the viewer were like, I know it's not okay.
Cause if it was, the movie would be over.
It's just like at the end of Casino Royale
where Daniel Craig and his girlfriend
are just jet setting around and you're like,
I know it's gonna turn out there's a problem
because otherwise the movie would be over.
Like you wouldn't be spending five to 10 minutes
showing me them having a great time. That's not what movies do. Yeah, it's like at the end of Red Dead Redemption
where you're like, I guess, I guess I'm just going to go hang out with my family now that
I beat all the bad guys. Spoiler alert. I mean, it's an old game, but man, you're like,
I guess, I guess I'll just teach my son how to go hunting. Nothing bad could ever happen.
Yeah. All right. We've gone way, way, way long on hunting. Nothing bad could ever happen. Yeah.
All right, we've gone way, way, way long on this.
So let's quickly do five.
It turns out we didn't forget that much.
Yeah.
It's two final judgments, whether this is a good bad movie,
a bad bad movie, or a movie we kind of liked.
Stuart, what do you think?
I don't think there's necessarily a good bad movie
because it's not inept.
And I don't think there's a lot to laugh at.
I also don't necessarily like,
I guess it's closer to a bad bad movie
than to a movie I kind of liked,
but I thought it was all right.
It was better than I expected it to be.
If that's anything.
Yeah, like in the grand scheme of things,
it wasn't the worst one of these we've watched.
I'm gonna qualify it as good bad. It's not quite right. It's not like laughably bad.
Like you're going to have fun, you know, drinking beers and making fun of it with pals or something
like that. But it's like one of those lifetime network movies, like, but a big budget,
you know, big stars version of that. And there's something
strangely compelling about that shit, you know, like the campiness is kind of fun. So I
actually kind of enjoyed watching it. Yeah, the more it leans into like the campiness
is the best stuff. Yeah. Yeah, I would also call it a qualified good, bad movie. Like, like
you're saying, it moves a little too slowly to be like a pop it in and and rag on it. Type of thing, but it is, it does get
crazy and it is super-toddry. So I would call it good bad movie.
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Oh, okay.
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And before we move on, there's two things that we should mention about ourselves.
Okay.
First is, let's tune our own horns.
Guys, get your horns out for some tootin'.
We have got a live show coming up December 9th.
That's a Saturday in lovely San Francisco,
home of Rosario Dawson's character,
and unforgettable, that's a surprise.
Oh, near Survante Street from Soul Calibur.
I don't think it's on Survante Street.
It's at the Marines Memorial Theater. That's
the night of Saturday, December
9th. Tickets are still available
but for how long it's going to be
our last live show of the year.
Yeah. Yeah. And the last one
scheduled right now to for the
future. We're looking into other
ones, but we don't know where
when those will be just yet. So
get on this last chance to the foreseeable future to see us in person. All three
peaches together, unless one of us hurts our back or our knee or dies in an
avalanche or something. But then we dedicate the show to them. Yeah. And it should
be a lot of fun. So that's San Francisco, December 9th, 2017. It's a Saturday and tickets are available. Go to
flophousepodcast.com slash event and you'll be able to, it'll take you right to the link for it.
Another thing you should go to the flophouse podcast website, if you go to flophousepodcast.com slash
comics is our current round of comics. They're based on the theme of love and every every proceed that goes to it, all the
profits from it, go to hurricane relief for Puerto Rico. It's crazy that it's been so long and
they're still struggling with the aftermath of the hurricane and buy these comics and that money
will go to them. Yeah, we're talking about we're talking about American citizens here. Yeah, American citizens who are living a unthinkable calamity right now.
And you get something out of it, you get great comics by Dan, me, and soon stewards
will be available.
Yeah, I think mine's coming out soon.
I mean, getting previews of the art and it looks super awesome.
I can't wait to see it all finished.
I know Dan's really proud of his story. I'm extremely proud of my story. These comments are coming out real great. If you haven't read them, go read them and know that you're helping
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comics. And if you don't live in San Francisco,
you should probably just buy plane tickets and go there for a live show. Yeah. I mean, it's not
unheard of. It's happened before. Sorry, I just got a concerning text message that just says,
so much cat puke. Oh, no. Time to get to the bottom of this mystery.
puke. Oh no. Time to get to the bottom of this mystery.
Hicks question mark. Okay. That does sound more like the kind of mystery that encyclopedia round would be dealing with. Sure. Bugs mean he's trying to sell cat puke to people and
passing it off as Dan's chili. And he has some fact about something that happened in the 19th century that proves
Bugs' meanies wrong.
Now what we do next.
Now it's time to answer a few letters from listeners.
And the first letter is from Kyle Lastname with Held.
Katarn.
Who writes?
Yep, the Star Wars character with Kyle Katarn.
I was delighted to hear Stuart mention the 1990 classic ski patrol on a recent episode.
I probably watched that movie a hundred times when I was a kid, but I hadn't seen it in
so long I assumed I had made it up.
I looked it up on IMDB just for shits and grins and discovered that the character of Stanley, the awkward but levelable weirdo of the group, was played by fucking Paul Fee.
Is this common knowledge that I just acquired or did I just blow your goddamn minds?
My question is this.
If only factoids about ski patrol could still blow my mind. I mean. My question is this, have you ever discovered someone from a favorite movie in an unexpected
place, or have you ever realized someone from the current zeitgeist was in a childhood
favorite, but you had no idea.
Thanks for the hours of entertainment.
Keep up the great work Kyle last name withheld.
Yeah, I think the closest I can think of to that, it's not like a favorite
that was it, neither of these are favorites of mine, but that the in the movie Mack and
me, there's a scene with a dance number inside of a McDonald's. And there's a moment where
the camera zooms in on this little girl that is dancing her heart out. Like, she's dancing so hard.
And I always felt bad for that little girl because it was like, she thinks this is the beginning of like a huge career.
Like, that she's going to be famous off of Mack and me.
And I always wanted to be like, oh, that poor girl she didn't know.
And then I fed out years later, it was TV's Nikki Cox, who's had quite a fine career for herself.
Yeah.
So it was like, oh, there was a happy ending to this story.
I was really happy.
And that dancing, that dancing role in Mack and Me did work out for her.
So I guess anyone who was in Mack and Me dancing and has not had a long TV career, you ruined
it.
So you screwed up somewhere else.
It wasn't Mack and Me that did it.
Yeah, you can't blame Mack and Me.
No, don't blame Mack for this.
Maybe me, I don't know, but Mack certainly not.
I mean, after, you know, after 30 Rock came out, it was fun to rewatch National Ampune's vacation and realize
that Jane Krakowski's in it. She's great. I love Jane Krakowski.
Yeah. Who does she play in it? She plays what Randy Quaid's daughter or something
in the, they're like cousins that live out in the country.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, I didn't realize that was her.
I haven't seen that movie the long time.
Why don't you just go run it from the blockbuster
and pop it in and watch it with the family, am it?
Maybe I will.
I think Sammy would like it.
He definitely like hearing holiday road.
Well, he would probably like that song.
I don't know they could really get the rest of the movie,
but he'd be like, where are the muppets?
Why are there no muppets?
I think he'd probably be like, wow, Christy Brinkley,
what a babe.
But look at that car she's driving.
Yeah, he would.
That's a pretty good impression of your son, right?
My son's always talking about babes, yeah.
I don't have any answer to this specific question, but as long as we're
talking about ski patrol, I want to bring up a story about ski school that I can't
remember what I've brought up on the podcast before, but I was in a play in
college. You were in ski school the musical. And as a playing college with a woman who is Dean Cameron, the star of ski schools
sister. And I found out why you just qualified that. I think everybody knows that
Dean Cameron is the star of ski school. Well, I found out that he was that they were
that she was his sister blew my mind. And I'm like, the star of ski school,
and ski school too, and summer school. Yep. And the star of ski school, and ski school too, and summer school.
Yep, and the-
Not a lovey's the star of summer school.
Shane Saw.
I would take issue with that.
Shane Saw is the breakout star of summer school.
I mean, I don't know, the breakout character,
but not the star.
Yeah.
Is it best the third lead?
But, yeah, I just,
I just enjoyed saying like the look of Donning Horror as I was able to pull all these semi-imscure
kind of exploitationy films out of my brain and list her brother's credit store and her sort of
mentally backing away from me.
Yeah, the look in her eyes is she's scanning the room for possible exit.
Exactly.
So moving on, this name, this name, this name, the name of the next person is Nathan last name withheld. Nathan Lane. Sure.
And he writes, hello, peaches! On the Monster Trucks episode, I heard Elliot make an offhand reference to the FireSigned Theater.
My dad introduced me to the further adventures of Nick Danger,
and probably ruined me for life.
They're one of my favorite obscure comedy references, which I try and introduce to
introduce friends to any chance I get.
My question is this,
what are some obscure comedies you've tried to introduce friends and family to?
And what do you do when they don't laugh
at the classic line?
Open up and there, your door knocker fell off.
Yours, Nathan last name withheld.
So, have you tried to introduce people to
your comedies?
I've been trying to, there's a lot of, uh, there's a lot of lower tier 30s
comedians, like Wheeler and Wolsey, that I find very funny in the movies.
And I've kind of given up trying to share those movies with people because it's
like, forget it. Never mind. You're not going to like this so much. Um,
the FireSign theater, uh, it's great. But you kind of have to, you have to be
in peed into that into the wavelength for them.
And that's been one that I've tried to do
is people too, and they're like,
eh, there aren't very many jokes in it.
I'm like, it's full of jokes.
What are you talking about?
I don't know why that wasn't a very interesting answer,
but it's the truth.
Normally, a response like yours opens them up
to comedy at that point, where you're like,
there's tons of jokes, and they're like,
oh, you make a good point, I should like this more.
I mean, I know when my wife and I first started dating,
I think I definitely try to introduce her to like,
this was years ago, but to like Graham Lennahann comedies,
like Father Ted and Black Books and, don't know the IT crowd. And this
was years ago before Graham Winnihan became a problematic like. But Charlene just did
not take to it. It was far too British for her.
Yeah. I think I may have related this story on the podcast before. It's so hard to remember after so many episodes
what I'm boring people by reiterating.
But, but this is-
Well, I mean, if the question is,
are you boring people than just assume yes?
Okay.
That's, you know, that brings a lot of freedom with it, Elliot.
Like, I- Yeah, exactly, they do.
I don't have to worry about it anymore.
Um, yeah, it's not an obscure comedy group by any means, but I remember exposing a female
friend to the Marx brothers and the scenes where Harpo runs after women through the scene.
Don't play quite as well in this modern world.
They seem a little more sexual assaulty than they played perhaps at the time.
And my explanation that Harpo is kind of a sexless amp who wouldn't know what to do with a woman
was not taken on on value.
Yeah, I mean, that sort of thing is weird.
Because it is, obviously, it's, I mean, that's sort of things weird.
I mean, because it is, I mean, obviously, it was a different time.
And it's harder to use the argument of like, they should know better.
I mean, they fucking should have known better.
But it's not like the first season of Brooklyn 9.9 where they had Joe LaTruboe's character
being like a weird creepy stalker to who'd call time.
And you're like, you guys should definitely know better
than this at this point.
Yeah.
What are you looking at, Elliot?
Elliot Scanan is what's.
That's the thing about a movie I'm gonna recommend later.
Yeah, okay.
And by the way, going back,
I did not mean to mention like those shows were
what like unknown or under
appreciated faves, they're just the experience I had
was very similar to what the writer described.
The moment of me looking at the joke, laughing,
and looking for recognition, and mild annoyance
was all I got.
So last letter is from first name with held, Joseph Flas name with held.
And what a complicated name.
He writes, tear floppies.
Firstly, it's always a pleasure to hear all of your voices every time a new episode comes
out, whether it be the smooth base of Stuart, the midwestern drawl of Dan, and then
there's Elliott.
Who's saying trouble?
Recently, I rewatched Darren Aeronofsky's controversial movie Noah.
It's taken on the classic story of the flood divided many people, both religious and non-religious
alike, and I was one of them.
I'm not a religious man myself, but I found the film to be initially tone deaf
with its bizarre sci-fi themes in such a religious tale.
After rewatching it, however,
I found new joy with better understanding
what the movie was about.
Aaronovsky was going for a much bleaker take on the flood,
and the more bizarre moments of the film,
like the rock monsters and Noah's in the beginning tale,
really make this biblical adaptation stand out.
My question is, what are some films
that made you go from hating it to actually liking it?
And how did you feel about Aaronovsky's know,
if you saw it, in general?
As always, keep on flopping in the free world
to the first native Muthal, Joseph Lastname withheld.
What a complicated name.
Yeah, I don't like it.
I mean, I think I think an example of a movie kind of similar was seen from
Ethias in the theaters because there's a lot of things that I liked about it,
but it felt like I'm like, wait, this is supposed to be prequel to alien.
Why isn't this better at being a prequel to alien and being really frustrated by it?
But the more I thought about it the more
and then seeing it a second time,
I totally came around on it and was like,
I don't give a shit if it's prequel to anything.
Yeah, I'm having a hard time with this
because I'm not saying that I'm like,
I'm always right.
And so my opinions never change.
But I rarely have an experience like this.
I don't, and I'm like, nothing's jumping to mind.
You're old stick to your guns McCoy.
That's what we call you.
I am old stick to my guns McCoy.
I mean, it's much more likely that a movie,
I liked initially than I reevaluated.
I'm like, oh, this isn't so good.
You talking about monster squad? I'm talking about something I'm like, oh, this isn't so good. Like, you're talking about monster squad.
I'm talking about something like a forest scump,
which the first time I saw it, I was swept up in kind of like the emotion of it
and like how technically proficient it is.
And then I'd, later on, I was like, oh, this is a weirdly like conservative movie
that really celebrates like a go-along, get-along attitude that I'm not sure that I agree with.
But I mean more likely I'll try and watch a movie that I know is gonna be good and I'm
just not in the mood for it.
You know, like I remember I tried to watch the movie repulsion the first time and I was
like I'd heard that it was this great horror movie and I wasn't in the mood at the time for like a slow burn
like
someone becoming crazy over time movie and then I watched it. Let's talk about the
We're talking about the early grindcore band repulsion. Yeah, I'm talking about the grindcore band before they're out of horrified
Yeah, I get it. It's it takes a couple listens
You know, but I mean like that was just a pull of like the first movie that I thought of that, like, I tried to watch and wasn't in the mood for. But then later on,
I was like, this is very well made. And that happens more often than me, like, re-evaluating something.
I think it hurt, it's when a movie is not super obvious with what it's trying to do.
It can have that effect on me sometimes.
Or if it's an abrasive character sometimes.
As much as I love most of Wes Anderson's movies,
it took me a long time to get into Rushmore,
which I feel like otherwise in our generation,
people loved it so much.
But I found the main character so abrasive and hateful.
It took me a while to like get into liking the movie
despite not wanting to spend time with this character. But then there's a movie like
young adult, which I haven't watched again yet. I'm curious to watch it again, because
the first time I watched it, I like didn't really know what the movie was until very late
in the film, and I'd already kind of decided I don't like this movie, but watching it now,
knowing what I'm in for, and like what the movie is trying to get at, and I'd already kind of decided I don't like this movie but watching it now knowing what I'm in for and like what the movie is trying to
get at and I might appreciate it more I don't know I haven't tried yet. I'm very
worried that my saying that repulsion is a good movie is like gonna be taken as
an endorsement of Roman Polanski or something by the way who is obviously a
horrible human being. I mean monsters can make good things. I mean, it's on a very certain level.
Like, no one can be such a horrifically evil person
that Chinatown stops being an amazing movie.
You just have to be like, this is an amazing movie
that was made by a terrible person.
Yeah.
Like a truly terrible person.
Yeah, like, you can agree that you like something and not want to support that person. Yeah. Yeah. Like a truly terrible person. Yeah, like you can agree that you like something and not
want to support that person. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, like that's a debate that people have and I'm
not sure. You can say, I like Chinatown, but you know, if I met Roman Polanski, I'd punch him in
the face. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. But I'm just amazed that old stick to his gun's McCoy is suddenly back and away from an opinion
that he's proffered
Very clearly well seems like he's not sticking to his guns anymore
Yeah, I mean it's that sounds like his hands are covered in something slippery so the guns can't stick to
Yeah, you they used to be covered in honey. So the guns stuck very well. Yeah, yeah
But lately he's been you you've been working on a car
and your hands are covered with grease and oils.
The guns just slip right out.
Old slippery guns, McCoy, they call me.
Oh, cool.
That's a debate we can have in another time,
but how okay is it to like something created by a monster?
Like, I feel like any debated pop culture is certainly Now more than ever
That that topic comes up a lot and I'm sure we've talked about it before here
Oh, yeah, I mean, it's like we're living through this time when it feels like we're living through bad times because we're learning all these bad things and
I think it's it's part of her meant remembering we're not, this stuff didn't just happen,
it's not like things were great and then it turned bad.
Like this, the bad stuff has always been around
and now we can see it and that's a better world to live in
where this stuff is not hidden anymore.
I've been thinking a lot about how like,
it's not that we're living through this crappy time,
it's that people are kicking over the rocks
and we can see all the ants and the rot
that was always there and that means you can go about trying to fix it and do something about it.
And that's a better thing. Yeah, you can also say, you can also say, I like
Roman Blancy's older movies. I don't want him to ever be able to make another movie again because
he's in jail, which I think is another suitable attitude to have. Yeah, that's another option.
Okay, well, let's move on from serious matters to recommendations of movies that you might
want to watch before you watch unforgettable.
There's a finite amount of time in human life and maybe I'll make some hard choices.
The grains in the hour glass just slip away. Yeah.
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I can certainly go first.
Yeah, do it.
So I watched recently, I rewatched a movie
that I had enjoyed very much in the past,
but forgotten most of the details of.
I'm saying you called on for a long,
free get to the film.
I watched the shot. Dan, is this like, Dan, what you're doing right now, it's you're the kid who's like,
I can't play this video game till I sit down and read the instruction manual all the way through.
Yeah, which I used to do in the bathroom.
I got to know the names of all the bad guys before I start fighting them.
I need to tell us about the movie.
I need to know the history of Waluigi before I can battle against it.
I need to know the powers of Carubo's shoe.
I don't even know what that is.
So I watched the shop around the corner, which is a great movie.
Great Ernst Lubisch movie.
It's what you've got mail was very loosely based on.
And also that the stage musical she loves me is based on that.
Yeah, I wasn't even aware that there was such a musical.
But that's a good musical guys.
Guys, I can confirm that was a lot of cat puke.
Okay, you got a photo. Oh, you've got photographic evidence.
I'll just put those up on the wiki.
And as so.
So Ellie, are they in Budapest that word set?
Where's where's the yes? I believe so it's in I think it's Budapest at that time a
Number of Hollywood movies especially those light comedies were being set in Eastern Europe because the people making them were from Eastern Europe right and Budapest had this
Reputation for being kind of like one of the glittering cosmopolitan cities of your life.
Right.
But everyone in the movie, the only thing that really makes it like it's Budapest is that everyone has kind of Hungarian names.
Otherwise, it could easily be Spokane or Hansa City or something like that.
Right.
But the plot is simple.
Jimmy Stewart is corresponding with a woman that he's following him love with.
Meanwhile, he doesn't realize that the shopgirl that he is constantly sparring with
is the person that he has been corresponding with.
And all sorts of romantic complications in Sue.
But it has what the people call that Lubich touch. It's a delight, it's charming.
And it's also, you know, it's a wonderful life
is, you know, Jimmy Stewart's Christmas movie.
It's considered a Christmas classic,
even though only the ending really like habits at Christmas.
And Shabaram Corners also said it Christmas.
And I guess he goes to the town as a Christmas movie.
Yeah, it's no die hard says Dan McCoy.
It's Grumlin's did it better says Dan McCoy.
When it takes, when it comes to Christmas movies,
I'll take a look at it.
I consider it a thin man, true Christmas classics.
I consider it a Christmas movie definitely.
I was just fending off any possible argument against it,
but, Dan, you have been so hedging everything
you've said in this podcast.
What is going on today?
Why are you so fearful?
I don't know.
I just want to make it clear.
I don't like Roman Blansky.
I just want to make it clear.
I know there is a huge amount of actual Christmas
and it's a wonderful life.
I've also been outside clipping the hedge
in front of my apartment building.
So I've been doing that hedging as well.
I also like hedging.
No, but it's just another Jimmy Stewart Christmas movie that deserves to be remembered is all
I'm saying.
Yeah, it's a great movie.
That was one of, as a favorite in, it's a favorite in my family.
Yeah.
I'll go next.
I'm going to, I'm going to do two quick recommendations. The first one is a movie that I think needs all the love it can get right now because it's crushing it at the box office.
That's right. I'm gonna recommend Thor Ragnarok. Check that shit out. It's great. I mean, I knew I was gonna love it. I like Tyco with TD's other movies quite a bit. It definitely feels like a comedy with some action thrown in.
All the performances are great.
And particularly, I really love the Valkyrie character
that is portrayed by Tessa.
Valkyrie.
Valkyrie, yeah, she's great.
It's one of the first times that I feel like Marvel put a female, like a female
superhero on screen who is enjoying being a superhero. Like actually seems to be having
fun doing this stuff, which is nice to see. I don't know. I feel like her character is,
in any other movie, is the character that would be played by
like the fun, like Kurt Russell character.
Okay, so I like that, check it out.
And I want to recommend a movie that's a bit of a qualified recommendation, but when
I was in Toronto, I was lucky enough to get over to the Art Gallery of Ontario to see
the Guillermo del Toro exhibit,
which is just a portion of Guillermo del Toro's personal,
like museum, like his personal collection of both books,
original comic art, as well as props from his movies
and other movies, like they had the mask
from fan of the paradise there.
Yeah, that was pretty great.
And the helmet, the Dracula wears
and the opening of Bram Stoker's Dracula.
That was awesome.
And some original pages of Bernie Wright's
in Frankenstein, which was amazing.
But going to that exhibit made me excited to go revisit
and gear model Torres movies.
And also to finally check out Crimson Peak,
which I'd been put off from kind of the negative reviews. And I like Crimson Peak a lot. It is,
I think it is a little bit messy and I feel like he repeats himself a little bit, but Guillermo del Toro
makes beautiful looking movies and Crimson Peak is no exception.
So yeah, if you're looking for a period piece that might not be the most original story,
but is filled with kind of beautiful visuals and some cool ghost design, check it out.
It does also feature Guillermo Altoutoro's habit of sticking in
occasional moments of CGI that looks like shit, but you know that's okay.
Everything else looks great. Speaking of period films with beautiful
visuals, that's the kind of movie that I'm gonna recommend. I recently saw the
Lost City of Z. Oh wow. James Gray movie about the true life story
of Percy Fawcett, who is an ex,
and a British explorer who.
And it also features Charlie Hunham,
who is in Crimson Peak.
Yeah, that's right.
You know the original, yeah,
the original son of Anarchy.
Charlie Hunham is the star of it and the new Spider-Man is in it later on and CNN Miller's
in it.
It's true story about a British explorer who found this or believed he had found this
ancient city in South America that proved that the South Americans were capable of feats
of urban engineering and architecture and
civilization that at the time Europeans assumed they were too primitive to ever attain and
then spent the rest of his life trying to find evidence of it that he could use to prove
that he was right.
And in the process ends up sacrificing his relationship with his family members, sacrificing
his public image at times, sacrificing eventually, possibly his life.
You'll find out if you watch the movie.
And it's very, very kind of old-fashioned classic style filmmaking in a way that was really
like refreshing to watch in a way.
Like this is the way they used to make prestige movies
in the 70s, 80s or earlier.
And I thought it was really good.
At times, Charlie Hunum is a bit wooden,
that's kind of how he is.
But Robert Pattinson is in it as his kind of psychic assistant
and he's surprisingly really funny and sprightly.
I mean, his character.
I think Robert Pattison kind of gets a bad rap because of the being in the toilet.
That's not my movies.
But like almost everything else I've seen him in, he's been pretty good.
Yeah, I got a new appreciation of him in this and it was just like a really good jungle exploration movie.
And a movie about stuffy British people being confronted with the dangers of the wild.
And about family and how family falls apart.
Anyway, I thought it was really good.
The Lost City of Z.
I recommend it.
All right.
Well, we've all got places to be. So why not why
why I don't you know, I thought I was going to hang out here all day. Just like the
dorm. Thank you for narrating that color tag damn. Yeah, this is the radio. Well anyway,
well, I have I have some big Hollywood meetings I have to get to with some Hollywood hot shots.
Perhaps you've heard of the star of hot shots.
Charlie Sheen. Oh wow. I haven't heard anything about him for a while.
I think he's due for a comeback. He kind of dropped off the radar on the back,
but he's people love him. People just love him and we're gonna meet and work on a project.
Okay, well that sounds great.
Okay, I think Roman Blansky is gonna direct it.
Okay.
Again, another guy you don't hear a lot about these days, and we've got Harvey Weinstein
on to produce, so I think it's got a real chance at success.
Oh boy.
Just great guys, the whole group.
Anyway, so the movie is gonna be called bad idea the movie
Wow, I'm glad that you're you're bringing back the the movie subtitle
Well, we were talking to the theater owners and they thought if they what people walked up to a marquee that just said bad idea
They'd be like you're right
It is a bad idea to waste my limited time on this earth sitting in the dark watching someone else's creation
I'm gonna go do something in my own life and then the theater owners don't get money It is a bad idea to waste my limited time on this earth sitting in the dark watching someone else's creation.
I'm going to go do something in my own life and then the theater owners don't get money and the movie doesn't get money.
So we got to call it bad idea of the movie.
The same way that people were worried that someone would walk into a theater and say,
one hot dog please and they didn't sell hot dogs at the time.
Now they do in theaters.
Now if you walked into a theater and said one hot dog please they'd say,
here you go, that's $17.
But at the time they didn't sell that. So people would not know it was a movie called hot dog the movie yeah it
is yeah when the when the alamo draft has did a screening of hot dog the movie they made a special
menu that did not feature any hot dogs and people burned the place to the ground all right um right
fully so it's like like Catherine Hygge and her dad it's like when people bought tickets to the
emoji movie thing he was going to be a movie and there was just a giant emoji on the screen and
they're like we want our money back and that's why the movie didn't do that well. Yeah that's the
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