The Luke and Pete Show - Antiques Donaldson

Episode Date: February 19, 2024

Luke and Pete’s film and TV review club is back! On today’s edition, Pete once again struggles to remember the name of a film he saw at the weekend and tries to work out if he could beat Idris Elba in a fight. After that, Pete fancies himself as an antiques expert and tells us about the time he stole a picture from a barbershop.Want to get in touch with the show? Email: [e-mail] or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram: @lukeandpeteshow.We're also now on Tiktok! Follow us @thelukeandpeteshow. Subscribe to our YouTube HERE.***Please take the time to rate and review us on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your pods. It means a great deal to the show and will make it easier for other potential listeners to find us. Thanks!*** Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

it's the look of pete shaw it is monday the 9th of february and my name is a pete donaldson lukie lukie moore i watched a film okay it was a but it was a very sad film okay that's it that's all you're getting you gotta guess what it was it wasn't just It was a very sad film. Okay. That's it. That's all you're getting. You've got to guess what it was. It wasn't Jurassic Park. Jurassic Park is a sad film.

All the dinosaurs, you know, a lot of them perish. They did. A lot of them did perish. Okay, so tell me the film's name. It's got Moriarty from... Oh, for fuck's sake. Why don't you just know the name of the film? You watched it. It's just one thing to remember, for fuck's sake. Why don't you just know the name of the film? You've watched it. It's just one thing

to remember, the name of it. And it's got... And the vicar out of Fleabag, Andrew... Yeah. What's his name?

The Irish bloke. I know who he is. Well, tell me who he is then. Why don't you just tell me the name of the film? Andrew Scott. Andrew Scott. It's a film called

Oliver's Strangers. And I'll tell you what, I think I've got a type of film I really enjoy. No, I could, whichever guess at the top of my head that you really enjoy. Yeah. And then you can kind of put me right

or tell me I'm right. Okay. The type of film you like is normally an indie film involving a kind of, a beta male lead. Oh. Like a Michael Cera type character. Oh, we're going beta males, are we? And a quirk a beta male lead oh like a michael serra character we're going beta males

are we right and a quirkily attractive female lead and it's like an oh do they don't they get together type vibe and they like sort of quite obscure indie music and one of them wears checkerboard vans and um and they've got a they got on some kind of road road trip and that's it. And the only other films you like are really quite pervy sci-fi films. It's hard not to agree with that, to be honest. No, I like experiences that leave you absolutely breathless, absolutely winded. Pornos.

Big old porn. Porn parodies of TV shows. No. I like films that are just, make you really sad. Really, really sad. Right. Eternal Sunshine. I see what I'm saying though, right?

Eternal Sunshine. Very good example'm saying though right Eternal Sunshine very good example um I know the album I spoke about it before Virgin Suicides Suicides films that are

absolutely sad as fuck and you cannot clamber out and they've all and also they have a great soundtrack as well

which all of those films I think I've named do have excellent excellent soundtracks but um yeah just like I watched that film on Saturday as well, which all of those films I think I've named do have excellent, excellent soundtracks. But yeah, just, like, I watched that film on Saturday and I said, Sarah said, that is

one of the saddest films I've ever watched. And she was like, I really liked it. I was like, I liked it. You can like something that absolutely leaves you... Did it make you cry? Completely, about as close as it would, yeah. Do you not cry on films normally, then? Not really, no. Because do you remember when I told you that I cried? It was close as it would. Do you not cry on films normally? Not really, no.

It was too sad to cry. It was too sad to cry at. The other month I cried at Good Will Hunting on a plane and it was the elevation. It is, yeah, the elevation. I've cried to Deadpool 2. I cried when the

wife dies in Deadpool or Deadpool 2. I forget which one it is. But yeah, and that was Elevation and not inconsequential amounts of Bloody Marys. Right. So on the plane thing, it's not really the done thing to drink on a plane, right? Yeah, but then what else are you going to bloody do?

There's a lot of fucking hand-wringing. Actually, you'll feel better. I'm going to feel terrible anyway. I'm in coach. I feel bad. Think of the one thing that could have made the part that you have access to as experience of going to Japan with you worse was the fact that you got really pissed and cried on the plane.

Yeah, I don't mind. You were effectively a tour guide for her though, right? Because you've been to Japan so often that she's never been. Would you say

you took that job seriously? I certainly steered into some places that probably on reflection probably shouldn't have done. Just a lot of smoky bars, which is not really Is there no smoking bar in Japan? No, everyone why that's why the car imported absolutely these reeks of fucking tabs

absolutely honks right it's absolutely foul so what was the name of this movie that you you watched uh all of us strangers uh very good i cannot recommend it enough um it's about loss really i suppose i can't really get any further than that. But, yeah, Andrew Scott's very good in it. A little guy. Yeah, he's a really good actor. He's amazingly camp in the Sherlock vehicle

with, what's his name? Benny Cumberbatch. Right, okay. He's really good. Have you seen that Sherlock? Yes, I have. I think I have, yeah. I get it mixed up with Luther, to be honest.

I'm probably in the minority, but I don't think Luther's actually very good. I've only seen a film of it. I think Elber is... Elber's record can be quite poor. He will do any old shit. I think you're right. I think you're full on.

I think you're sponsoring. He gets indul're full on. I think you're sponsoring. He gets indulged way too much on his own projects as well. He gets, like Sky will go, Elba's interested. Yeah, we'll fund this.

And it's like, well, this is a piece of shit. This is a massive piece of shit again. He's incredibly good in The Wire. Yeah. And that is no, unquestionable.

You can't take that away from him. He's, and The Wire's got a thing where, because they were using at the time quite unknown actors and because it was the type of project it was you've got idris elba he's obviously from london you've got dominic west he's a posh guy from the uk and you've got some other people doing different accents into splice just the way it was made the production of it spliced in with like real road men from baltimore who weren't even

necessarily actors right yeah and so it really does um so for example i think one of the i think the police chief in the wire is actually a police chief right right okay so so and then he's working really closely with um mcnulty played by dominic west And if you watch back the first couple of seasons of The Wire, you can really hear Dominic West slipping out of his accent. It's really noticeable. But the Big Driss's accent as Stringer Bell is so solid that I genuinely didn't even know he wasn't American. I only found out he wasn't American years when i mean years later and so in that

he is incredible he's like untouchably good he's rock solid um but um you're absolutely right i mean the stuff he's done like since then i don't even know he's done anything that's actually that good like he's really cringe in prometheus like it's not very good in that at all the thor movies he's in have been were panned he's in that at all the thor movies he's in have been were panned he's in like sonic the hedgehog movies he's like his most recent movie is like sonic the hedgehog 3 yeah but a lot of his but a lot of his luther i think he's i think he's actually quite poor in luther as well i don't think luther's actually that good no yeah i've not watched a lot of it but i just think he does get given like sarah did a did a read through for one of his projects

and it was like he just like people make him DJ and he just wants to kind of like he wants to do comedies and stuff and he's just

really not his vibe I think he might be a bit of a nerd and I'll knock his block off if he comes here again he'd definitely

punish you without even noticing it might be a real what if I get a lucky hit I just I just can't see Block off if he comes here again. He'd definitely punish you without even noticing. It might be a real... What if I get a lucky hit? I just can't see how that's going to manifest itself. He's got like a lump that's about to pop and I jiggle it and it explodes. He's got a reset button under his arm.

Yeah, exactly. Or a cyst. A big, a lutherian cyst. The only thing I can think of that he's been good in recently is there's a really sweet kind of I guess it's kind of

a children's thing animated short called The Boy The Mole The Fox and The Horse and it's a Christmas thing

okay and it came out a couple of Christmases ago on Apple TV but I think it was syndicated across the BBC on the iPlayer and stuff and I watched it on Christmas Day with my niece

and there's only I think three or four people in it and obviously it's animated right so it's voice acting Tom Hollander is the model and obviously Tom Hollander is amazing Gabriel Byrne is the horse and he's obviously amazing You never see Gabriel Byrne anymore

he had a bit of after he was a suspect he was like everywhere wasn't he for a bit and Big Drift plays the plays the I think he plays the fox. Right. And that's really good. That's as much as I can go.

I can't think of anything else. And then speaking of Big Gabriel Byrne, he must be old now, though. Yeah, I would say that. I can't remember. I haven't seen him in anything for years and years. I assume it's just he's not doing that much work, but maybe he is. I don't remember. I haven't seen him in anything for years and years. I mean, I've assumed it's just he's not doing that much work, but maybe he is. I don't know.

Well, that's your TV review for the week. I haven't watched a movie in ages because I've simply got an eight-month-old son and it's impossible. Yeah. It's just impossible. What happens when they go to bed? You know, just get something.

Because you had a good record of getting telly in you at like opportune moments like if you had if you had half an hour you'd be like bang right in there when he was really young i would stay up we do it in shifts and i would stay up till 3 a.m and then i would sleep after that and obviously the wi-fi of access to you would take over and i was watching all sorts of stuff but the problem is when you've got a two month old in my experience you're so tired that you can't really

concentrate on anything. So I ended up watching the whole series of Love Island just because it was on every night and I didn't need to concentrate on it. Yeah. Why do little babies

like really small little babies always look like they're running like self-diagnostic tests? Yeah they do. Do you know what I mean? They're just sort of like they're always doing thisdiagnostic tests. Yeah, they do. Do you know what I mean? They're just sort of like, they're always doing this. Yeah. Like when Robocop takes off his mask.

Yeah, just working out what they're doing. Moving their fingers. Conjuring. It's fascinating. Absolutely. Just working the muscles. What they're up to. What are they up to in there?

Imagine if you just started doing that in public. With his moustache. Hello! Speaking of TV, Peter, I don't know if we've discussed this before, but are you ever, are you a fan or have you ever been a fan of Antiques Roadshow? Yes, very much

as much as anybody was, I think. It's still on, mate. It's on every Sunday. Yeah, but I mean, it fitted very much as much as anybody was, I think. It's still on, mate. It's on every Sunday. Yeah, but I mean, it fitted very much into my images of my nostalgic past with my grandma and stuff. We'd sit down and we'd watch that at night. She'd make these kind of egg and tomato sandwiches and just endless tea. Like, you don't really feed kids caffeine anymore, do you? But back then, so much tea. Like, you don't really feed kids caffeine anymore, do you?

But like, back then, so much tea. Every single, every single weekend we'd be absolutely hoovering up the tea. It's a real working class thing

for a kid to drink a cup of tea, I think. Right. I think, I never really started drinking it until I was a bit older. I wasn't really that into it,

but it was like, all the kids on my street would drink tea all the time. Drink tea. I know, I remember. It's like, it just kept you up all tea. I remember my mate,

his mum used to make him a cup of tea like every hour. And he used to live across the street from me. And I used to go over and knock him up to see if he wanted to go and play out in the street or whatever. And I think younger listeners listening to this will be like, this sounds like a different world. But genuinely, he used should just go around there

and we were really good friends with him so we the families knew each other really well so I would just walk up the garden path walk straight into the house and he would his mum would always make him a cup of tea

and I always remember if his mum had just made him one and he wanted to go out and play football on the street with me or whatever he would take the cup of tea pour like half of it down the sink

fill the rest of it up with just cold would take the cup of tea, pour like half of it down the sink, fill the rest of it up with just cold water from the tap and then just neck it. Because for some reason, like his mum was like virulent about drinking the tea. Right. I think she thought it had some kind of like healing property or something. To be fair, I have been known to,

if I'm out the door and I'm having a coffee, I will put a bit of cold water in just to get it down me. And it's still not, and sometimes the cold water hasn't kind of like dispersed in the cup so that the first gulp is manageable and the rest is absolutely red hot and it's in my belly and I'm like, ah! Yeah, right.

And I will come on to Antiques Racial in a minute, but just on that kind of nostalgia trip, I remember he also had this board game called Dare, which I cannot stress to you enough how much that would not be around now. Dare board game. So basically, I think off the top of my head, what you had to do was like a board game.

Yes, it was a bit cartoonish, a bit naughty looking. You'd answer questions, and then you'd get a chance to have a dare, do a dare or whatever. Yeah, I'm looking at it now. It came out in 1988, apparently. But I mean i mean mate some of the dares you used to get i mean bear in mind it was essentially targeted at children i can remember two of the dares right one of them was um eat a tablespoon of butter that's all right i don't think you could be

advising kids to be doing that these days well Well, don't do it all the time. Another one was eat a teaspoon of salt. It's to weed out all the slugs. It's a good dare. You may do that when you're eight years old. It's amazing, but I don't think you should be doing it. There's 320 dare cards. Maybe we should get a copy of the book.

It's still on sale, by the looks of it. I'd love our listeners to get in touch if they remember the board game dare and the stories that came along with it because it was full on. It was pretty brutal. Do you remember there was a... I can't remember the name of the bloody game,

but it was like... It had a timer on it and it was like, I think... I think red, bright red. It was like a little table and it had loads of different shaped yellow pieces with handles on. And there was probably about 25 of them red it was like a little sort of little table and it had like loads of different different shaped yellow pieces with handles on and it was like probably about 25 of them on this thing and after

a while you had to remove them or move them around or something and at the end it would pop and they would throw all the pieces all over the gas oh yeah it's like um it's like um buckaroo a little bit like buckaroo or pirate pete or whatever, that kind of thing. Pop-Up Pirate, yeah. Pop-Up Pirate, yeah, yeah, yeah. Pop-Up Pirate. They would... I think there was a Pop-Up Pirate that came out. The Japanese really love Pop-Up Pirate for some reason,

but there's a special one where you have to have, I think, double daggers. You've got to have two daggers in before it'll pop. I think that's the case. Anyway, it doesn't matter. But the game that that popped up um i met the person who like my partner knows somebody who knows somebody who was on the front cover as a child so i met them at a party like like ages ago but that's that's that's pretty big because i remember that it was called countdown or something and um and it was uh yeah and they were on the front cover as like a child model

speaking of that right that's just reminded me of something so a guy i know who because the guy you're talking about there would have got paid for that but it would have been given to his parents and it would have been probably in grand scheme of things quite a derisory sum right yeah so my i know someone he's actually a tailor now and i was chatting to him now he's a several rotator now and um i was chatting to him a few years ago and he was saying that before he became a tailor he was a aspiring model right good looking guy he's got that look the big beard the kind of hair and that kind of thing that was really kind of popular about 10 years ago 15 years ago you know the kind of old-fashioned gentleman with the beard but you're young and you've got great hair and stuff and tattoos on

your hands that kind of look right when he said when he was an aspiring model he got given a he got he got a gig which which is basically posing, um, for barbershops. So what they would do, this is agency, right? He would give him a nice, a nice cut,

perfectly fresh. Yeah. Take professional photos of him, pay him a few hundred quid, like a day rate or whatever. But in return for that money, he signs away the rights to the pics. Right?

That's fair. So he had no fucking money. So he was like, I'm obviously going to do that. Yeah. He said now, like he goes pretty much every town he goes to, he sees himself in the barbershop. Yes. He's been basically stiffed for so much money in perpetuity. Who's paying for that, though?

But these barbershops just get a job lot of these photos. Yeah, yeah. And stick them up on the thing. But if you think about image rights and stuff, though is a massive like piss take because every every high street's got a barber shop in it yeah but it's but you gotta think how much money how much would if you were a barber shop instead of printing your own out why would you buy how much money you're going to spend realistic spend on some pictures of some dudes for your wall. But I think it's just the prevalence of it though, isn't it? Yeah, yeah.

Look, I'm exactly the same. I stole one of those pictures from a barber shop in Leicester and that was very much the centrepiece of our student house back in the day. Not quite the same. And I still see the same man. He looks like a very 1980s kind of you've got to have the faith of like 1980s kind of you gotta have

the faith George Michael era kind of look and he and yeah you see him in every Turkish bar and it takes me back

to my student house because I just remember seeing I saw that guy and he was above the bin and he was basically where we'd throw

our tea bags so he was just going for the tea bags that's what he would have wanted the biggest the biggest the biggest piss take example

of what we're talking about there is that famous poster isn't it the infant I think it's l'enfant in French like the infant and it's a really handsome male model with his top off and a pair of jeans holding a baby they look at each other and I was just reading about it and apparently

in 1986 it was made. And it was for 20 odd years regularly voted along with, I think, the famous photo of Che Guevara and the tennis girl poster with the girl with the skirt up. Remember that thing? Yes, yeah. It was one of the three most iconic images of the 80s. And the model in it um was a guy called

adam perry and they used three different babies to do the shoot it took an afternoon and he got paid a hundred quid flat fee jesus christ anyway the antiques roadshow thing i was just going to say to you is from one middle-aged man to another um i was watching antiques roadshow on sunday when i was feeding my son before putting him to bed. Topless? I wasn't topless. No, okay. Thanks to everyone listening to this,

mentally picturing this scene, I'd had a T-shirt on. Good, okay. And I watched a, it's a really interesting story about this carriage club that had been presented to someone as a bravery award back in like the 1800s or something. But it wasn't worth anything. And I was like, that's a real fucking letdown because i'm an absolute basic bitch when it comes to antiques roadshow i want the high value items yeah and so i googled

the um the the most expensive finds ever on antiques roadshow and there's like a little youtube thing accompanying the the story right because obviously the bbc have probably just cribbed them all and put them on them on them on the uh on youtube and uh it honestly mate it is a fucking exciting watch it's so good but they're all like about a million aren't they they're all like yeah the payoff of the crowds down in the round the the the sharp intake of breath the gasp the idea that they're directly witnessing history right there, right now, is a really compelling watch. There's one of a Fabergé flower, which is bespoke, only made for that one time, perfect condition with the box.

It was presented to an army regiment in recognition for their, I think for their efforts in the First World War. Yeah. It was presented to one of the experts in 2017 and he valued it at 1.1 million pounds. I think when you see those you can

tell I think you can tell something seriously expensive because it's just daintier. It looks like unlike anything you've seen on the Antics Roadshow before. It just looks smaller and daintier it looks like unlike anything you've seen on the antics roadshow before it just looks smaller and daintier and better made and there's just there's just something about really expensive stuff that does set itself apart from the usual stuff that's like 20 grand i do i do

believe that but you reckon you could tell i reckon i can tell i reckon you should find a load of like prices artifacts and I'll price them up for you the most expensive, that would be brilliant well I don't have any prices artifacts but that would be good the most expensive one on the American version of the show was a guy brought in a gold pocket watch by Patek Philippe obviously a famous watchmaker and it was given to his grandad in 1914 and it was handmade and it was given to his granddad in 1914 right and uh it was handmade and it was a particularly interesting piece a one-off piece and uh it had the original

box on warranty and all that kind of stuff and he had taken it to an appraiser who had valued it for him at six thousand dollars so he assured it for that money and then the antiques roadshow expert then said that guy's talking absolute shit this is like a quarter of a million dollars right which he then kind of went mental about of course he decided to put it up for auction

and at Sotheby's it fetched 1.5 million whoa that's amazing yeah I mean yeah it's the most valuable item ever

on the show so they were both wrong then these experts but isn't isn't the isn't auction isn't auctioneering quite tricky though because if you've got two or three collectors who really want something it can

massively inflate the value right yeah yeah yeah i mean on a different day it might have gone for a totally different amount i just i just think that like yeah i mean you know i'm not i'm not a man who gets involved like mark haynes and rest of me he spends a lot of his time on like eBay and stuff and he can he settles it in his mind he'll not happily but he will resentfully spend like 600 quid on like a job lot of old

wrestling posters from like the 70s and stuff and I'm not sure he's ever going to get his money back because he won't ever sell them Adam Durrell from the offensive boom and Jackie the Ripper he has got a genuine side hustle where he's a wrestling figures expert. Yes and he'll buy them up

from car boot sales and sell them online for good money. He'll find them for a couple of quid and some of them are worth like hundreds I was in a what do you call it, antiques fair at the weekend and there was a um there's a little there was a little um character little figure um wrestling figure and um i was telling sarah saying in this bit um that there's like a wrestling figure and he's wearing a t-shirt it says apa

and he was member of the apa i don't know what, I can't actually remember what the collection of wrestlers were. But the t-shirts that they sold on the website and stuff was APA, always pounding ass. And it wasn't a popular shirt that they sold. But I was basically saying, yeah, see this guy here. It means one thing, but it very much means another. Exactly. They were selling a t-shirt saying, always pounding ass. And as I said i said ass somebody just came in the room and i was like oh good so much of like um like so much of that kind of like i don't know 80s and 90s american macho culture is

so gay yeah of course it is yeah of course it's really like there's so many like uh homoerotic undertones to it we talked about this before because we end up talking about not tom from finland for ages and you said he wasn't from Norway. Anyway, I just wanted to bring the Antiques Roadshow chat into the mix

because it is a fantastic kind of area, I think. There was also a guy who had a load of one-off, beautifully made cups that he'd bought i think he'd bought them in africa or maybe china hundreds of years ago they were from and at the time they were valued at loads of money but tens possibly hundreds of thousands and they said i'm never going to sell i'm never going to sell them and then and then this website that follows all these antiques roadshow kind of

finds did an update saying that um oh by the way this guy's going to sell them. And then this website that follows all these antiques roadshow kind of finds did an update saying that, oh, by the way, this guy's going to regret not selling that shit because they were all made from rhino horn and there's absolutely no trade for that left anymore.

Like no one will buy them. You can't get anyone to pay up with money for it because it's basically illegal. So they're basically now worthless. So it just goes to show you it's not, there are a certain amount

of circumstances involved with what the valuation of something is, you know. Yeah, indeed. Well. Anyway. Let's get out of here. Anyway.

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by the way, Peter, because we've got loads of vasectomy emails again. Yes, good stuff. But we'll have to do them next time. We've given the emails a snip until next time. We have.

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