The Luke and Pete Show - Why’d you only call me from your Jag?

Episode Date: June 29, 2023

Glastonbury has been and gone and Luke and Pete can’t agree on whether the Arctic Monkeys should be doing an impression of a Las Vegas crooner band.Elsewhere, Pete’s had to get his Jag serviced (i...t didn’t go well), Luke carries on his war against Thames Water and we pay tribute to a legend in the battery game.Want to get in touch with the show? Email: hello@lukeandpeteshow.com or you can get in touch on Twitter or Instagram: @lukeandpeteshow.We're also now on Tiktok! Follow us @thelukeandpeteshow. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 it's the luke and pete show welcome to it it's the spookiest luke and pete show before halloween i'm pete donaldson i'm joined by spookmoor. How are you doing, Luke? You having a spooky summer? I've never been called Spookmoor before. I'm doing all right. I wasn't given the advance brief that this was going to be a spooky show, so I can't wait to see what you've got planned. Oh, cobwebs. Cobwebs. Okay, so basically... I've got a lot of flies in my house.
Starting point is 00:00:38 Rather than cleaning your apology cabin, you decided to make it a spooky special. Yes! Yeah, I'm looking. There's been a dead spider in the top right hand corner of my vision um for about three weeks and i've not cleaned him up um well you shouldn't you've got flies in your house it's just me and the and the spider cops really just hanging out really that's so weird you say because i actually chucked out a spider corpse from the bedroom literally about an hour before the cops it's got to be a death metal band called spider corpse should be there should be. Playing on some unlovable stage at Glastonbury at the weekend.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Speaking of which, producer Rory came back from Glastonbury. He seems alright. He seems quite together. There's something lovely about that kind of post festival sleep that you do. And it's the same kind of post festival sleep that you do
Starting point is 00:01:24 post holiday or post sort of um getting off a plane that's really really aren't you supposed to be relaxed after you're on holiday well i mean travel is just such such an exhausting endeavor isn't it i suppose yeah especially if you go to the us and you fly back overnight and it's like and you always think it's going to take like eight hours but it always takes five hours so which means you've only had three hours sleep. It's awful, awful sleep. Where's that come from?
Starting point is 00:01:47 Well, you know, the plane coming back from America is always quicker than you think. And then you're like, oh, I was planning on getting six hours, but instead I got three. And what I've noticed is that the quicker the flight back, the bumpier it is. Yeah, a lot more wind. And also they usually arrive at about six o'clock in the morning,
Starting point is 00:02:04 but then they just do circles for ages because they can't at about 6 o'clock in the morning, but then they just do circles for ages because they can't land until half six or something in Heathrow. No, that's not the reason, actually. The reason is that the pilot feels like it's a bit boring. Yeah, he needs to get his flight hours up, so he decides to just do some loop-de-loops. He needs to do loop-de-loops, he needs to do these big banks right and left. Did you watch much of Glastonbury?
Starting point is 00:02:25 Because I reckon I watched probably more than anyone else in Britain. Really? Did you have it on pretty constantly? Yeah. I feel because Sarah, my partner is, and of this parish, Sarah Champion, is a host on Absolute Radio and their festival is the Isle of Wight Festival, which was the week before. Not as good, was it? No, it's not.
Starting point is 00:02:42 I mean, even she would admit it's not as good. But I just always feel like that if I've got the television on with Glastonbury, I feel like I'm somehow letting her down. But we did get to see a little bit of this and that. I can't remember which acts we actually sat down and watched. I watched the Manic Street Preachers full set. Of course you did.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Of course I did. Out of all of the acts, I sat down. I knew you were going to say that. At the moment that the the the rumored secret artist turned out to be the foo fighters and not pulp i knew you were gonna pivot straight to max street preaching they were never gonna be pulp it was always gonna be the foo fighters the drummer was wearing gloves the drummer everyone's sort of saying that like oh i mean so josh freeze is like my favorite drummer i think he's brilliant he was a drummer in the punk band The Vandals for a long time he has name checked
Starting point is 00:03:26 in the song Hockey Hair which is a song about mullets he's in Devo as well he was in Devo okay right he wasn't a launch member
Starting point is 00:03:34 I think he still is in Devo now right yeah but he's an incredibly accomplished punk rock drummer and I think he's great and I'm so glad that he's joined
Starting point is 00:03:42 it's a little bit like when Oasis kind of lost a couple of members Noel Gallagher just got some really talented guitarists involved and stuff um because he knows what he's doing um so yeah good good work and everyone's sort of complaining that um do you not think that the foo fighters are playing their songs too fast it's like i've never seen a band live like bands live always play just that little bit faster apart from the arctic monkeys who kind of went reverse down down one-way street.
Starting point is 00:04:07 The thing I like about that is that we can't talk about that and give our real opinions because everyone else will tell us that we're wrong. Right. I don't mind it. I didn't mind it. I didn't mind the Arctic Monkeys. They were fine.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I don't know what people were expecting. They were never that kind of crazy, jump-around-the-stage kind of band ever, were they, really? Early on, very very early on there's a lot more energy i think i think there's i think if you if you can see me on camera there's like jumping around the stage like you know the mad whoever the mad caddies the bands you like mad caddies where's that come from and then there's like comatose right and there's about there's a i think there's a point in between where artsy monkeys could perhaps i mean obviously they're going to do whatever they want and you know they don't give a
Starting point is 00:04:48 shit what i think and why would they but i think personally philosophically there's a difference between doing the show even though they're doing arena shows and stadium shows now for their own fans yeah of course do what you want that's why people have come it's glastonbury though it's a bit of fun it's a party have a party yeah it's a long set and you've got to squeeze in all of your hits I suppose they're the biggest band I've ever seen
Starting point is 00:05:10 where the front man everything he says sounds sarcastic I remember seeing them in a few years ago in Portugal and all he said he would just let it
Starting point is 00:05:21 kind of settle for a good sort of five minutes then he'd go obrigado that's all he'd say that's all he said, he would just let it kind of settle for a good sort of five minutes. Then he'd go, Obrigado. That's all he'd say. That's all he'd say.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Yeah, our friend Andy Edwards once said that, you know, the old Arctic Monkeys would write a sarcastic song about what the new Arctic Monkeys are now like. Yes, that's fair. I mean, this is a band that wrote, you know, yeah, I'll tell you what's my problem. You're not from New York City, you're from Rotherham. Yeah. And I'm not saying they shouldn't change
Starting point is 00:05:46 and they shouldn't evolve and they shouldn't follow their interests. Of course you should. As you grow older, you become different. And that's right. But that is still almost something that's going to dog them. That lyric alone is going to dog them for as long as they put up with this fucking nonsense. I felt sorry for the guitarist or the bassist
Starting point is 00:06:02 who had what can only be described as a very heavy leather jacket. On a night like that, when it's really warm, he was sweating when he got off the stage. Absolutely sweating. That's his decision, though, isn't it? That is his decision. I presume that wasn't an Arctic Monkeys helmed decision. I could never have predicted that by this point, the old Arctic Mon monkeys were going to turn into some kind of parody of a crooning las vegas lounge act like it's not the direction i thought it was going
Starting point is 00:06:32 but the people who are getting upset and and it sounds like i'm including you in this one have people just not paying attention with the caveat that i'm upset about everything all the time carry on did you not think that they're like, if you haven't noticed that they've been doing this for a very long time, the last time I interviewed them, it was like fucking 2018 or something, they went, he went,
Starting point is 00:06:53 it's not summer no more, Pete. I've just been doing that impression quite a lot. Yeah. It's not summer no more, Pete. I have been paying attention to it as far as I know what they're doing. I quite like them on record. I really do admire how they're doing. I quite like them on record. I really do admire
Starting point is 00:07:06 how they're doing interesting shit, right? Like, because I think, I totally understand that if they're turned into some kind of band that just did the same stuff
Starting point is 00:07:17 they've always done, which for them would be impossible because they're quite autobiographical, aren't they? Yeah. They're not, they're not, they're not going to be able to talk about the same things
Starting point is 00:07:26 they're talking about now because their lives are so different. I'll tell you who else had that problem, but in a slightly different way, was Mike Skinner of The Street. Like proper kitchen sink summary of British life with the first record. Second record was a concert record, which is kind of similar,
Starting point is 00:07:42 but you could tell his life was transitioning to something completely different. And now he's not able to make music like that. Perhaps he doesn't want to anyway, but he's not able to. So there's always a problem to be solved. And on record, I admire how they've done it. It's kind of conceptual thing and, you know, it's quite high-minded and interesting sounding.
Starting point is 00:07:57 1950s kitsch, sort of like. But I just don't think once you've been standing in a field in the blazing sunshine, having a bunch of cider, you necessarily want to hear like mardi bums sung at like half pace no you want you want to head on over to the second stage and hear die in the summertime sung by a guest vocalist on the manic street preachers set that's what you that's what you want to hear i didn't mind my street preachers but i didn't like that the drummer had gloves on. I think Sean Moore
Starting point is 00:08:25 I think Sean Moore and Josh Freese, you've got a real issue with all of them wearing gloves. I just think it's a weird look for a drummer. I know why they do it. It's like driving gloves. When you've got a slightly heavier car you crack out the driving gloves. I would say that
Starting point is 00:08:40 Sean Moore from the Manic Street Preachers is growing into his features. I think growing a beard for a boy you look like, you know the bottom of a sprout with a little cross on it that you cut? Yeah. Like a lot of men, Leo DiCaprio's a very good example, like little sprouty-faced men, little sprouty boys. He's one, Sean Moore's one, and I think him growing a beard was the best, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:03 it's the best use of his hair i think it's fair to say my face isn't my face has just never been bigger bigger every year this gets bigger and bigger and bigger it's never gonna stop it's like it's like sean murphy the snooker player crossed with the guy from keen there's a there's a guy called there's a guy called um uh'Malley coming over to the UK to do some sets. Sets! Some comedy sets. And he has got a similar sized noggin to you. He's the bloke who plays the guy who's really horny in Tim Robinson's I Think You Should Leave.
Starting point is 00:09:39 He's the guy who's in the car. And he's got a similar sort of like large head kind of like quite charismatic looking face if that's fair to say he's done um he does um joe perra talks with you as well right yeah yeah does that joe perra show um there's a lot of us out there um it's got it's got so you gotta be tall though if you were my size you would look like leisure suit larry you'd be really funny i think it helps to one to look younger as well with a big fleshy face. There's not many wrinkles, are there? Yeah, but she's even got a big fleshy face
Starting point is 00:10:11 and a few wrinkles by virtue of the fact it's massive. That's what I'm saying. Like a big Hindenburg. But I think if I had lost weight and became really drawn, I would look older is what I'm saying. Yeah, you'd look a bit more haunted. Sometimes you can walk into the office and look a bit more you'd look a bit haunted sometimes you can walk
Starting point is 00:10:25 into the office and look a million dollars I remember just before my son was born and I was in maybe one of the last times I was in so about six
Starting point is 00:10:32 seven weeks ago whatever you walked in and I was like who the fuck is oh it's Pete fucking hell he looks amazing
Starting point is 00:10:38 but sometimes you look like a skull on a stick yeah but it's the same body shape it's just different clothes, isn't it? It's weird how much clothing can change your look. I don't think anyone's expecting someone like you
Starting point is 00:10:50 to get out of a Jag at the petrol station. No, no. You look like you've stolen it. Yeah, especially because I'm wearing sliders or something. Sliders and free shorts I got at a charity football match. It's not a good look it's not your usual jaguar look i would say i think it's like i would think if you got out of a jag at the petrol station i would my instant reaction would be someone sent a member of the
Starting point is 00:11:16 staff out to fill the car up i uh i took i took it in for a service thing because it's not a service thing since before covid um because you's not had a servicing since before COVID. You bought it? Yeah. Wasn't they servicing before they sold it to you? No, they didn't. I mean,
Starting point is 00:11:29 they barely service it. Tell them to do it. You've got to negotiate with that. Well, it wasn't registered as being serviced anyway. They'll do the bare minimum. They'll put the bare minimum
Starting point is 00:11:39 out of oil in and engine oil and stuff like that. But I took it for a timing belt change. The man then said, you've got a nail in your wheel and you need a new battery. And I was like, this is totting up.
Starting point is 00:11:53 This is totting up a bit. The battery hasn't passed the test. I was like, oh, for fuck's sake. Did you not go through it all with the seller? I did go through everything that I could do, but I didn't have my battery tester on me. And I was the one who put the nail through the wheel. So I can hardly blame him for that.
Starting point is 00:12:08 I can hardly go back and go, Oi, there's a nail through my wheel, dickhead. Did the guy service in the car say, What are you doing driving out? What are you doing? Did you get that on a Dulwich Hamlets FC charity football match, Pete? Yes, I did. Yes, I did. When did you play a Dulwich hamlet charity football match uh it was
Starting point is 00:12:26 back in the day um i'm trying to think it was against their under was either 16s no i think it was just me and um just me on on against a lot of 16 year olds and i think um there was a there was a professional um photographer there and he was taking pictures of everyone and um vish actually saw a picture of me quite randomly on a dulwich um hamlet's instagram page and said pete you look like a proper footballer here and i said yeah but here's the other all of the other pictures that were taken that day and honestly it's just little lads running around me and i'm just on the floor and everyone i'm just lying on the floor yeah just ignore them that's that's the secret the secret of great photography is to take a thousand photos right just pick a best one or two yeah exactly yeah that's what i presume but
Starting point is 00:13:09 um yeah i just couldn't believe how awful i looked just lying on the floor every time that little uh that little um who's that little funny guy who uh he fancies himself as a bit of a goalkeeper marcus he's a he's a comedian I think. And he goes on Soccer AM. Kyle Lide. I don't know his name. He's from Grimsby. Yeah. He played he was in that TV
Starting point is 00:13:35 show about the woman from Crossroads I seem to recall. He played Benny. Inexplicably. He was in goal. Kyle Lyle. Mile? I can't remember. But he was in goal Kyle Lyle Mile I can't remember but he was in goal good at 5-a-side goalkeeping
Starting point is 00:13:48 awful at 11-a-side goalkeeping he's too small and that's you saying it and that's me saying that goalkeeper extraordinaire and you're someone whose pedigree involves
Starting point is 00:13:56 volunteering to do the second half in goal for your football team because you are either on the line or you're tired I'd very much like to do the first half rather than the second half,
Starting point is 00:14:06 because the second half, you can really lose a match, can't you? I'd prefer to do the first. If you embarrass yourself in the first half, there's still a little bit that you can rescue it. Exactly. I have done, in recent memory, some fantastic saves, but the only reason why I've done those fantastic saves is because I do not know how
Starting point is 00:14:25 to manage my area correctly so i've had to get myself out of issues that didn't need to be happening do you ever really feel like you know where you are no i'm constantly looking backwards i'm looking if i am past the penalty spot i could be in in the aforementioned grimsby i don't know where i am but if i'm in front I can it's really difficult the spatial awareness is you know you're flying without instruments really it's just all it becomes second nature if you're a proper goalkeeper training every day right I presume when you
Starting point is 00:14:53 live in there because they used to kick little lines in the six yard box didn't they perpendicular with the posts oh nice okay that makes sense yeah yeah I don't think they're allowed to do that anymore they certainly don't seem to do it anymore. Maybe it's been outlawed. But I'm asking this question with love and it's not a criticism.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Is there something unedifying about a 42-year-old man throwing himself around as a standing goalkeeper in Sunday football? I knew this would happen. Father Moore giving it the big licks about what it is okay for a 42-year-old man to do and not to do. It's just a bit
Starting point is 00:15:30 of fun, isn't it? Keeping fit, etc. I shouldn't overthink it, should I? No, I think, who's looking at you? Who's looking at you? Not the defenders and all that. They've got their own problems. I'm distorted by the fact that I quite simply these days never leave the house. I'm simply not able to leave the house.
Starting point is 00:15:47 But I wanted to kind of build on that because I've got a six-week-old son and I'm not able really to do much at the moment, which is obviously part of it. But you do tend to get in your own head a little bit. All I really do now is work, watch documentaries or reality TV. About keeping babies alive. About nothing to do with that. The opposite to that. And obviously I'm on the internet.
Starting point is 00:16:17 And I saw a story yesterday which blew my mind to bits. I know it's boring. I know you're going to give me short shrift and I'm probably going to get a maximum of 90 seconds out of us both on this but you know i've moaned quite a lot in the past both on this show and on the various whatsapp groups you and i remember of right about how bad thames water are yes there's been a temp did they fire or did someone get promotion or there was something thames water related yesterday in the news and i thought wait till luke hears about this.
Starting point is 00:16:46 He's either going to be delighted or really angry. Yeah, I did actually think that. I'm glad that you did. You are indelibly connected to, indelibly sort of marked as a Thames Water man. Yeah, because about six months ago, I was driving back through London and I just suddenly thought,
Starting point is 00:17:01 oh, I'm going to see how many pieces of roadworks, traffic, and water bursts there are on just one drive through London, right? Right. On that one particular route, right? And there were eight. Okay. And I just thought, that's way too many. That's way too many. Then I sent you a video when I was walking down the street near my house where there was literally a fountain of water shooting like 30 feet up into the air
Starting point is 00:17:26 because they'd fucked something up. And then I read that they'd lost a trillion litres of water last year. You know how like when racists go on about London being a failed state? Why say that? Because of the mayor. Because of the Muslim mayor. I just sort of think that um it it's like it's it's not a fail state it's great but the infrastructure is very much crumbling
Starting point is 00:17:52 the infrastructure is a fucking joke do you have any idea how many liters of water a trillion is yeah uh i mean i'm gonna need the usual olympic size swimming pool even though i don't really know how so it's 400 so the amount of water that water companies in total yeah lost last year 2022 of which thames water was the biggest yeah the most like that it was 426 875 olympic swimming pools and to put it in even bigger perspective given that the uk is quite a small country check this out right it was basically enough water to fill lake windermere three and a half times that's how much they lost that's how much went right and where's it gone though it's not got where's it gone i mean they can just find it again surely can't they this must be affecting foundations a big funnel under the country
Starting point is 00:18:48 where is it going like it's not in the sky well eventually it will be in the sky but you know what i mean and that's the preamble to say that i read yesterday that um somehow despite every single household in london having to pay a mandated amount of money to Thames Water, right? And then essentially, ultimately being in this situation where capitalism can't fail at that level under the way that we run the country. So they're basically propped up by the government as well. They're about to be. They've somehow managed to get themselves to £14 billion of debt. And they're about to go out of business.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Yeah. Good. I mean, you can can't that is too big to fail that doesn't need to be privatized ridiculous a public union public it is probably is privatized that's the problem yeah sorry yeah yeah you're the opposite sorry that's why you're not on a government cabinet position it's fair enough but it's not for that reason the thing that angered me is that at 4.45 yesterday morning I was on the night feed I'm a bit tired obviously I've got a baby in my arms
Starting point is 00:19:51 I go into the kitchen to get some formula yeah and I turn the radio on I just listen to fucking news headlines so I put 5 live on the first thing I hear is
Starting point is 00:19:59 government assures British people will not be without water after Thames water blah blah what country are we living in here? I've studied history at a pretty decent level and I've
Starting point is 00:20:10 never even heard of anyone going out without water in Britain in recent memory. I mean, what's going to have to happen? Like these machines to be the infrastructure manned by the army? I don't know, like those big um trucks that
Starting point is 00:20:25 um uh boris bought as as mayor spraying water into our mouths what's it's going to be like when you go when you still got a glastonbury in the um early noughties where you used to push to the front it was really hot they'd just hand out little cups of water to you yeah because you were too hot obviously there's droughts and stuff and i get all that and it can be very very dry in the uk despite what people say i totally understand that but like the thing that annoys people anything is that you know they're privatized thames water you can't fail because there's no competition anyway because the only company you can use for your water in london is thames water so the whole point of privatization is completely uh taken out of the equation anyway
Starting point is 00:21:01 they they pump a shitload of sewage into the fucking environment. They get themselves to 14 billion pound debt. I think you could just pick someone off the street of any experience at any age and say, here you go,
Starting point is 00:21:11 run this. And it wouldn't be worse. Because it's impossible to be worse than this. Because everyone on the ground probably knows where it is, like what to do. But it's just
Starting point is 00:21:19 all the money's going in the wrong places, presumably. I don't want to be like, I know I sound like fucking Piers Morgan. I annoy myself, but it just gets me so angry
Starting point is 00:21:28 that we live in a country where we can't get shit like that right. I mean, it's water for fuck's sake. I've been writing some white-hot complaints to BT at the moment. Still not got my bit of broadband sorted. Oh, we've already got onto that, by the way. No, we don't have to get onto that.
Starting point is 00:21:41 I'm just saying, I've really perfected my angry email man. It's not gotten anything done, but I'm feeling better. So I walk back into the living room at 4.45am, put a TV back on, some fucking channel like Dave or something which is running like comedy repeats, ad break, first ad break, first advert, water raid.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Help some people get water. We haven't got water ourselves. I can't get away from it. I can't get away from it, is what I'm saying. No. It's the one thing. Inarguably, it's the one thing I need. It's the one thing I need.
Starting point is 00:22:16 At the backstop to all of this life, water is needed. Yeah. And when you see a NASA scientist saying, oh, we're searching, we're searching other planets for water. It's not because it might be a good sign of life. It's because we fucking haven't got any here.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Get it back here. Get yourself a little water tank in your garden. Just pop a little, I don't know what you call it. Like a little, what's it called? What do they call them? A butt,
Starting point is 00:22:41 a water butt. A water butt. We got a water butt behind this cabin and it doesn't really go anywhere. Like, the tap's not open. It just sits there. We don't use the water for anything. It's just overflowing.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Use it to water the garden. How do I water the garden? Just carry the butt through. Just spray it around. It doesn't make no sense. Well, you do. Haven't you got a little tap on the bottom of it that you can fill the watering can up with?
Starting point is 00:23:02 It's too low, and it's really far behind. It's in a really naughty place behind the air conditioning unit. Okay, that's not a water bottle. That's just a box. It's just a box. It's just a box with water in it. I feel like what's going to happen,
Starting point is 00:23:17 we're about three months away from Jacob Rees-Mogg being on the telly saying, well, in his day, he used to drink rainwater all the time. And it's actually a benefit of Brexit because it teaches us that rainwater's really good. Or some shit like that. Just pull off the plaster.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Let us move on for crying out loud. Yeah, I think I would probably just... I think I'd just raise the whole country to the ground. Get everyone out. Let's get everyone out. That wants to come out. All the Brexit shaggers can just stay because they love it.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Yeah, they can enjoy it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was listening to David Lammy onmy on um guesting on pods of america and um this is completely apart from anything else but you know touching on politics um he's got a lovely transatlantic accent at the moment i think he's just been on american stuff too much and he's sort of got those kind of soft d's um and we've done a lot of stuff and my accent's changed massively but it's never softened to that amount where it's become this kind of transatlantic um accent why do people do that so how do people so even when they don't live in america i don't
Starting point is 00:24:17 get it so it's it's called linguistic he says he says with a really strong soft d i don't get it i don't really get it man i don't get get it, man. I don't get it. It's called linguistic convergence. And you get linguistic convergence and linguistic divergence. And so some people, basically what that means is some people are much more open to having their accent manipulated by their environment. And some people go the other way. So they lean into their original accent as a reaction. So my nan, who's Scottish, she never lost her scottish accent despite living down on the south coast of england for like 70 years or whatever
Starting point is 00:24:49 uh 60 years she never lost it but then some people like i'd say you definitely have softened yours yeah um in a big way compared to what you used to sound like i'm a big wet wet lettuce i just let things you're a people pleaser i'm a p i am a people please yeah exactly so my nan was not a people pleaser. She was an arse kicker. You're an arse kicker, aren't you? I'm a people pleaser. You're an arse kicker.
Starting point is 00:25:11 I don't think I'd ever see myself doing a Joss Stone if I ever spent a lot of time in America or whatever. Well, you've literally got an American person in your house and you've not softened your accent. And I think her accent softened as well, actually. Right. I can only recognise... She now sounds like David Lammy.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Yeah. No, I'm actually married to David Lammy. I respected the position he took and the leadership he showed during the London riots. And I asked him to marry me and he said yes. David Lammy always comes across as... The thing I always think about with him, I saw him on Question Time,
Starting point is 00:25:42 which is just an absolutely dreadful piece of television these days, but I i saw him it's like a hellish version of through the keyhole it's just that every time they they put it on there's always like a a standout performer last time it was the woman who was talking about the germans on the roof and it's like that was amazing it was amazing but like took about four times to work out what she actually was talking about but when you do work it out, you do sort of go, all right, well, the point at the core of it is that she felt, right or wrong, very much wrong, that the EU, the mainland Europeans,
Starting point is 00:26:17 helped set up all these rules and then didn't abide by them, and yet the British did abide by them. The analogy was poor, though, wasn't it? The analogy was like one of my analogies. It goes all around the houses. There's something in the middle and on the house but it's very...
Starting point is 00:26:30 It goes all around the houses, on the house, underneath the house and then on top again and so you go, all right, fine. And I almost sort of think that like,
Starting point is 00:26:39 because we're sort of geared towards, every time there's a Question Time episode, we're geared towards finding someone stupid and going, look at this fucking idiot, look at this old fucking duffer that that even the ones
Starting point is 00:26:49 that are kind of semi-caution like it can't semi-caution like it they they kind of they they're kind of like pulled out when they don't need to be pulled out fair play she was a bit dotty but you know i didn't feel sorry feel sorry for the grief. It's just the cross-section of the general public that want to be on it, though, isn't it? They get a choice to put their hand up. That is true, yeah. How do they always
Starting point is 00:27:15 find the stupidest people? Because I think, basically, Matt, I don't want to sound like pompous here, because that's not like me at all, but most people are quite stupid. Yeah, that is true, isn't it? Yeah, you know, because that's not like me at all. But most people are quite stupid. Yeah. That is true, isn't it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Yeah. I mean, it's just, there's no trick to it. I think, I personally believe like Fiona Bruce is really poor in that role. Bless her.
Starting point is 00:27:35 I think she's a really good broadcaster elsewhere, but I think she's diabolical in that role because I don't think she's quick enough to actually move it on and find out, you know, actually get to the nub of the issues and realise that that person's a moron, so let's just move past it. But when David Lammy was on it, as I was going to say,
Starting point is 00:27:52 the thing I was most impressed about him was, obviously he was the guy who was the local MP, I think he's in Tottenham, isn't it, where the London riots started a number of years ago. And he's been like a frontline politician for ages. And he's 50, right? So I think he's been a Labour politician for a very, very long time. I think he's been in there since 2002, maybe. Maybe 2000.
Starting point is 00:28:15 I can't remember. Long time. Just a great time to be a Labour politician. He's just full of righteous fury still. And I'm impressed by people who don't have the edges knocked off them on that front. He's got kids and stuff. You see it a lot more in Labour than you do anywhere else,
Starting point is 00:28:29 don't you? Because it is a fragmented party of different vibes, let's say. There's all sorts of vibes, isn't there? There's all sorts of vibes. Speaking of that, Corbyn was at Glastonbury,
Starting point is 00:28:39 wasn't he? Oh, was he? What was he up to? He's lead singer of Guns N' Roses now. Oh, is he? Okay, good. As we've seen, that was a chivalry, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's a lovely... was he what was he up to he's lead singer of guns and roses now oh is he right okay good yeah as
Starting point is 00:28:45 we've seen that was a shiv roy wasn't it yeah yeah yeah it's a little like yeah there's a lovely i thought that um uh axl rose looked um pretty good i think i thought he's pretty good apart from his face i think it like slash is starting to look like a sack of potatoes but um like in the face i mean that was an absolute clinic wasn't it i mean the performance and the guitar player oh mate it's just you know what i did i've got some this is a terrible name drop it's not really a name drop which is a terrible showing off point but i need to make it to say the point i'm going to make i know quite a lot of working guitar players so my friend ed is is the guitar player for jesse warren he was he was a guitarist for dua lipa uh and my other friend blair is a really good singer-songwriter
Starting point is 00:29:29 like working singer-songwriter i've got a couple others i sent them all messages about slash and every single one of them even though like one there's a folk musician and one of them's like a funk musician like they were all like yeah it's just a legend. And I'll tell you something now, I'll make a very nerdy music point. The thing I like about it is that Guns N' Roses are underrated for how much kind of groove they had to their music. Yeah, that's fair. And so what Slash does with his guitar playing is he never, ever descends into that kind of Steve Vai, Wankoff stuff.
Starting point is 00:30:04 He always just pulls back from that. It's pure Merde, pure soul. He's got a lot going on. And I know Axel can't hit the big notes anymore, but, um, he's lost a lot of weight.
Starting point is 00:30:13 He looks good. He looks mental, but he looks good in a kind of Hollywood LA kind of style. He looks good. Um, and, um, I just thought it was,
Starting point is 00:30:21 maybe it was because of his reaction to my reaction to, to Arctic Monkeys, if you know what I mean. It was like, okay, Friday night's happened. It's now party time. Yeah. And I'm happy with that.
Starting point is 00:30:31 It's a serious business. And then on Sunday night, we got a little, we got a little classic, kind of classic go around. It felt a bit like a family party. Yeah, it was. All of our kind of,
Starting point is 00:30:42 all the ghosts of yesteryear just sort of going, hello, how are you doing? You all right? Having a good time? Brilliant. Anyway, Pete, with half an hour in and we have a day off break, Rory's going to be fuming.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Rory's fuming. He's sent us a note saying, we need to go for a break if possible. Is it possible, Luke? I didn't see the message. It is possible. Let's go for a break now. All right.
Starting point is 00:31:00 And then when we come back, we'll do our usual. Do a tiny little five. Tight five. We're back for the Luke and Pete show. I forgot what to...
Starting point is 00:31:11 Happy Eid. It's time for emails. Rory, I'm so sorry I don't read your messages. No, I only noticed it because it went
Starting point is 00:31:20 in my ears and I was like, what's that? What's that? And Rory's actually at Glastonbury. He's got the worst job in the world. He's listened to Rory was actually at Glastonbury. He's got the worst job in the world.
Starting point is 00:31:26 He's listened to people who weren't at Glastonbury talk about it. Like he wouldn't have heard this sort of badinage with a couple of
Starting point is 00:31:31 people off their head in the fucking Ealing Fields with a completely stark bollock naked off their head on Crocodile or
Starting point is 00:31:36 something. Who's taking Crocodile to Glastonbury? It's a good drug. It's a good drug.
Starting point is 00:31:43 It's a cheap heroin substitute that people use in the inner city rucker isn't it your bones come out to play your bones are coming out to sort of go
Starting point is 00:31:53 hey now I am want a bit of this isn't that the opening monologue to welcome to the jungle your bones come out to play
Starting point is 00:32:01 you're gonna die if you want to get to the show hello at littlepeachshow.com we've not actually got any batteries this week so get your batteries in The bones come out to play. You're going to die. If you want to get to the show, hellolookapete.com. We've not actually got any batteries this week. So get your batteries in, you absolute melt. Sorry to cut in,
Starting point is 00:32:13 I just want to say that I suspect, partly, that Rory had a lovely old time at Glastonbury and he's tried to spin us a yarn there. Tried to spin us a yarn there. Oh no, we haven't actually got any. Oh, we haven't got any. Well, he did manage to find a couple of emails about batteries. We got one from Oliver.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Hey, look, Pete, no new place to share, but I was going through the drawers in the kitchen at my in-laws and found a battery daddy. I did not know my wife's daddy was also a battery daddy. Now, the battery daddy is a piece of kit that we have been sent. It is in our cupboard, and we have got batteries in it at Stack Towers. I sliced my hands open on it. And this is like an integrated Battery Daddy that has found itself in a drawer.
Starting point is 00:32:58 And it's beautiful because I fancy a bit of this kit, but I wouldn't mind a bit of this in mine because my drawer in the kitchen full of brand new batteries, but they're all sort of loose, like sort of lying around. I can never find the double A's when I need them. I think it's a really great bit of kit actually. It is nice.
Starting point is 00:33:14 It looks very organised. I've got in the bureau in our dining room as a top drawer, which is separated into three compartments. And the left-hand one is for light bulbs, spare light bulbs. Nice, like it, yeah. The right hand one
Starting point is 00:33:26 is spare little mini picture frames and the middle one is for batteries and I just have them in the drawer and in their boxes but I don't have
Starting point is 00:33:33 an organisational situation with them so it would work for me as well but I would just add this. I don't, I'm not clear as to what Oliver's
Starting point is 00:33:41 father-in-law's system is because I can't tell, are they all new ones and the old ones get chucked or is their system in place? Yeah, he wouldn't be putting old batteries back in there. I think he just hoys them straight in the beck, straight in the rivers. I don't think you can say that about that.
Starting point is 00:33:57 That's defamatory. I saw Oliver's stepdad, no, dad, wife's daddy, throwing a car battery in the river. Oliver's stepdad? No. Oh, dad? Dad. Wife's daddy. Throwing a car battery in the river. Kev from Middlesbrough says, Hey, look at Pete. A guy at work was going through some stuff that he inherited when he took over a job role. The previous person has retired,
Starting point is 00:34:17 so he was accumulating stuff for years. He showed me an old scientific calculator. My first thought was their batteries. It's an illness. I'm not convinced that there'll be new players, but check out the expiry dates. And they still work. I couldn't think of anyone better to share this find with.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Keep the good work. Care for Middlesbrough. Some beautiful middlesbrough batteries. And the expiry date on them was March 2003. So they were probably made like fucking hell in the 90s, probably. But to you and I, that's not that long ago, is it? Well, to me and you, you and I, I think we probably think that the 90s probably. But to you and I, that's not that long ago, is it? Well, to me and you, you and I,
Starting point is 00:34:46 I think we probably think that the 90s was yesterday. What were you doing March 2003? I know what I was doing. I was working for a government housing quango in London Bridge. Were you really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Doing what? Helping people move out of london linking uh local authority housing stock uh with people who um want a bit more room uh but and don't mind moving up to newcastle or something how did you get that job did they see the multimedia dvd made at leicester zoo i motherfucking knew that uh what um ftp was file transfer protocol and that's all that it takes with slightly less internet savvy people back in 2002. I still don't know what that is now. Nobody uses FTP. I try to get people involved in the FTP scene.
Starting point is 00:35:32 It's like a Dropbox type thing, right? It's a way of transferring files from servers to computers or computers to computers, but it's a bit like HTTP, Hypertext Transfer Protocol. That doesn't sound right. It's a bit like HTTP, Hypertext Transfer Protocol. That doesn't sound right. File Transfer Protocol is the way of doing files and that. It's really interesting stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:54 I can't remember the last time I used an FTP. I miss it, man. I miss it. Would you say that one of your skills is to find something that is interesting and make it sound not interesting? Yeah, I've got a huge five-minute set um kosher mobile phones for uh for monday's show um but we'll leave it with andrew on twitter his message uh he got in touch to share the news that scientist john goodenough who was a pioneer in the development of lithium iron batteries has died age 100 and if there's i mean he has to been getting in high on his own supply there the spiritual grandfather of uh Duke and Pete show.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Yeah, he's definitely battery-powered himself. 100 years old. I mean, if there's ever... He should be the new kind of Duracell bunny, surely. He went for 100 years. It's amazing. And he got a Nobel Prize as well. The oldest person to ever win the Nobel Prize
Starting point is 00:36:39 when he won it in 2019 at the age of 97. Good God, that's amazing. That's absolutely amazing. Born in Germany to American parents. I swear, American kind of, I guess, sounds like it might be army related, but you know these people who grew up in Germany, like Americans who grew up in Germany on compounds and stuff,
Starting point is 00:37:00 and army base and stuff. They've always sounded cooler than everyone else. They've always got something about them that sort of goes, yeah, these guys kind of know what life is all about. I've actually visited one of those bases. Yeah. And there was a proper full-on American shop. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sort of selling American goods, yeah. It was in Germany, yeah. It was kind of crazy. The quote I like from this story about John Goodenough, God rest his soul, God, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sort of selling American goods, yeah. It was in Germany, yeah. It was kind of crazy. The quote I like from this story about John Goodenough, God rest his soul, God bless him, the late, great John Goodenough, is from the body that awarded the Nobel,
Starting point is 00:37:34 that awards the Nobel Prize. I think it's the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences. They say, his work makes a fossil-free, a fossil-fuel-free world possible, as it is used for everything from powering electric cars to storing energy from renewable sources. Yeah, possible, but we're not going to bother, are we?
Starting point is 00:37:54 Well done for making loads of work possible that we're never going to implement. Never going to do, yeah, that's true. We'd rather live in a fiery furnace. Oh, well, nice. Let's get out of here. Great band. A bumper episode. Yeah, they are. Oh, well. Nice. Let's get out of here. Great band. A bumper episode.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Yeah, they are. A bumper episode. Fiery furnaces are very good. Wasn't the singer for Fiery Furnaces used to go out with Alex Gopranos? Anyway,
Starting point is 00:38:14 more 2002 indie landfill gossip from me next week. We'll be back on Monday. Please get in touch with your battery brands, what you found in old calculators
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