The Sloppy Boys - 55. Boulevardier
Episode Date: November 5, 2021The guys stir up one of the IBA's "unforgettables", created by an American writer in Paris.BOULEVARDIER RECIPE1.5oz/45 ml Bourbon or Rye Whiskey1oz/30 ml Bitter Campari1oz/30 ml Sweet Red VermouthPour... all ingredients into mixing glass with ice cubes. Stir well. Strain into a chilled cocktail glass. Garnish with orange zest, optionally a lemon zest.Recipes via the International Bartenders Association (https://www.iba-world.com/) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Hey folks, welcome to the Sloppy Boys where we take a deep dive into the drinks that you love.
I'm Jeff Dutton along with Michael Hanford.
I got a new microphone stand.
And Tim Kalpakis.
What is up, same old microphone stand.
No new equipment whatsoever? I? Same old microphone stand. No new
equipment whatsoever? I stand
for this microphone stand. Jeffy, you
got a whole new wall
behind you. I'm coming at you live from the
new apartment. Do you stand
the new apartment? The new
apartment. Oh my god,
he moved to France. Is it...
I always would say compartment, because
they're smaller houses.
Yeah.
You should continue to say that.
I got to stop back in my compartment to change
and then I'll meet you guys.
Why do they call them apartment
when they're not apart?
They're all together in a building.
These are the things.
I know.
Let's dig up George Carlin
and tell him that one.
You know that meme that's like a girlfriend looking at her boyfriend in bed,
and she's like, I bet he's thinking about other women.
And then he's thinking, why is it called an apartment?
Tim, I did look up the, can I pet your dog?
And that was funny.
The one, you don't want the one that has a boy in the shot.
The funny one is when it's just a video of a dog.
Because I think a lot of people did
re-dos and lip syncs.
But the original, I think, is just a video
of a dog and then off-screen a southern boy.
Oh, no. Really?
Oh, I saw a little kid, almost like a toddler.
Yeah, the one that I had sent out
thinking it was the original one
in the show notes was just a kid in a kitchen.
I went in the show notes and changed that.
No dog. Oh, man. No, you know, Tim, you can't... I'm getting into those show notes was just a kid in a kitchen i went in the show notes and changed no dog oh man you know you know i'm getting into those show notes you actually can't go into the show
notes once they're out what's done is done i sneak in there late at night i go into the show notes
don't i don't like either of you touching the show notes i thought we're doing that
we're outside sourcing this week on the show um it's really funny
what i was gonna uh say though is um the thing i the meme is this
considered a meme the uh damn daniel that's a viral viral video viral video still one of my faves
uh we all know that show squid game squid yeah squidward yeah there has been a run on white
vans because that show is so popular and everyone at halloween
dressed up yes yeah they've sold like uh 7800 percent more than they usually do at this time
damn that's a good uh good move if you ever want to sell a product yeah make a really successful
show did you watch uh squid game did you finish it no i'm i'm missing it i'm intentionally like
i'm sitting this one out waiting for the next one.
Take part in the culture. You know what, Tim?
Did you finish it? Yeah.
I'm watching it. I'm loving it. What episode are you on?
As of this podcast recording,
I haven't finished it, but as of this
podcast airing, you bet your ass
I'll have finished it.
Well,
I started liking it, and my
interest waned. what about garth all right
let's get to the oh no mike mike's precious interest i'm sure that ted sarandos of netflix
gives a flying fuck what some brooklyn dork thinks hey hey this brooklyn dork talk i don't like that
anymore dude you saw you saw the watch I got.
All you have to do is say that, and I will stop calling you that.
I didn't know that you didn't like it.
So now you're kind of a Canal Street jeweler.
That's right.
That's what I'm into now.
And I'm back in the Sopranos, baby.
It's the best.
Oh.
Oh.
You don't like Squid Game?
You're watching the Sopranos?
Oh. Pantaleon just showed up. Oh. Oh. You don't like Squid Game? You're watching The Sopranos? Oh.
Pantaleon just showed up.
Joey Pant.
Hey, that's great.
No, in my house.
You have to leave, sir.
He was probably in Matrix at the same time-ish, right?
Like late 90s?
Yeah, Matrix first in this.
Yeah, why didn't I take the blue pill?
I got a cameo video from Joey Pants,
and he was very low energy.
He was like, hey.
Oh, yes, I've seen that video.
Hey there, Tim.
Reading straight from the, you know, like my,
Tim, my seer's from Los Angeles.
Very low-key guy.
Are we ready for a little bit-it-bit-bit-bit?
Bop it.
Don't have to worry about nothing. Low key guy. Are we ready for a little bop it? Ooh.
Don't have to worry about nothing.
Ooh.
When we're hanging with Kel Packets, Hanford and Jeff,
I want to go get sloppy at night.
It's our God-given pride.
Pouring glass after glass until we're drunk off our ass
Cause we're here for the beer
So everybody say cheers
I promise I won't shit myself this time
We're getting sloppy at night
It's our God-given pride
Let's party dudes It's aze news, you discount aisle dipshit.
Discount aisle dipshit.
It's not me.
I go top shelf, specialty shop.
Is that fully a ridge or is that pulling from something I don't know?
I'm scared to say,
because now it could be a David Bowie song.
I don't know.
And I'll get fucking reamed all over the internet.
It sounds like a David Bowie.
But it's,
that was,
that theme was by the Jonah equation.
That's a band you can check out on Spotify.
And if you have a booze news theme,
email it to the sloppy boys podcast at gmail.com.
Awesome.
Yeah.
If they're a real band,
I'm going to say that to Ridge.
I think I,
I don't think a real band would waste time on a cover.
They're trying to get the word out of...
We've done it.
Yeah, wait a minute.
We're not a real band.
We're as real as they come.
We're not a real band.
We're just a bunch of Canal Street jewelers.
Okay, here's the booze news.
It involves the Russian root.
Mike, why don't you refresh our listeners on what the Russian root was?
Russian root is a little thing
that I concocted a couple years ago,
10 years ago about.
Made it out of Wim,
it's mug root beer and vodka.
What's the third thing?
Ice is ice, but it's optional.
Yes.
And you know,
it's important to decide for you yourself
whether or not you take the ice option.
And also, it's no longer a Russian route if it's in like a certain location.
Where was it?
Say what?
It's in the directions that it shouldn't be in like a certain area.
The ground?
Yeah, that's what it was.
Yeah, don't put it on the ground.
Yeah, lots of drinks have that about where they're not supposed to be served.
As soon as it touches the ground, it no longer a russian root you gotta start over
mike did some great mixology inventing this drink we put the word out to slop heads and what a great
few weeks we've been having of having slop heads send us recordings of them uh ordering russian
roots out at bars i I forgot about that.
Yes, so I'm talking dozens of slobheads did it.
They recorded themselves, some audio, some video.
And we said, you know, don't make it into a little pranky.
This ain't no Bam Margera Viva La Bam, okay?
Play it straight.
This ain't no disco, ain't no country club.
This ain't no disco ain't no country club this ain't no cky um we said with
a straight face confidence go up to the bar order a russian root and see what happens yeah i i left
my ass off listening to these and watching these i totally cracked up and you guys know it's been
a long time yeah um i know how much but how much, but I, I plucked,
I plucked two of them that I really liked because they were really,
I mean,
these were all fantastic.
Keep them coming.
But this,
I was really just interested in the,
the,
the bartenders,
uh,
reactions here.
And,
uh,
uh,
here's,
here's two clips.
Let's start with one from slob head,
Laura vinegar.
Um,
can I get a Russian route? What's that oh okay it's fine um
it's um two parts root beer mug root beer if you have it like the stuff on tap yeah and then
one part svedka vodka and i will have ice in it as well. In a short glass. Yeah, do that first.
Pretty much like a shot of
two parts.
With ice.
Do you want it in a plastic glass?
Just like a short glass.
Yeah.
Alright.
That was so entertaining.
A bar gender who's open-minded, plays ball.
And congratulations to Laura for taking that ice option.
Yes.
Yeah.
Proudly.
It's usually, yeah, it's good, the ice option.
I think that's exactly what you want.
You say some nonsense, but then the bartender's like,
okay, what is it?
Okay, what?
And tell me what that is.
And you're supposed to say, Laura, you're supposed to say,
it's from the Sloppy Boys podcast.
Everyone here should listen.
How?
How?
Yeah.
How?
No, that's great.
I love that because the bartender listened
and made the drink and it was great.
Now, one other that I pulled was from Slophead,
Manton Minnick.
Hit it.
Tanner, can I get a Russian root for my shift today?
Yeah, what's that?
It's two parts root beer and one part vodka.
Yeah, totally, buddy.
Ice optional.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A Russian root?
A Russian root.
Killer.
Wow.
That's a good bar dinner.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, buddy.
Yeah.
What is that?
Okay.
I can tell he was a regular just based on the- Beyond regular.
You know what, Jeff?
This was his shift drink.
He worked at the restaurant, left the kitchen, and went to the bar.
Oh, I thought that's what he said.
That's what he said.
Gotcha.
That's why it was-
Shift drink. I thought that's what he said. That's what he said. Gotcha. That's why it was meant. So those made me happy because a lot of these were videos just met with blank stares or unintelligible grumpy mumbling from bartenders.
It's funny.
Just hearing these two, I was like, wow, this could be a movement.
This could grow into a big thing.
And then you were saying that blank stares. I was like, no, it won't. Mike, it's not a movement this could grow into a big thing and then you're saying that like blank stares is like no well mike it's not a movement it's a groove oh we were supposed to
get that started i forgot about that it's been a while since we pulled that old gem out so now if
you're gonna order russian root you say and they say what is this is this some sort of new movement
you grab them by the lapels and you say it's a groovement asshole and asshole, and I will have the ice. And they'll definitely have lapels.
Fucking throat! Don't worry about whether or not
they'll have lapels. They will.
They will. If they're a
bartender at a nice establishment, they should.
I'll tell you, I really like crowdsourcing
our content like this. This is
going to be a boon for us. I'm so happy people
went out and ordered it. Well, the thing is,
guys, it's interactive.
You get connected. It's a groovement. Michael, the thing is, guys, it's interactive. You get connected.
Yes.
It's a groovement.
Michael, you had some booze news to talk about.
I have a little bit of booze.
It's kind of booze news.
This is more of a question for my mom.
I got this text earlier today.
Okay, typically, booze news is sort of like news that involves booze.
It's not always questions for moms.
It's more about music, which we do say we're a...
Great, getting even further from Booze News, but keep going.
Great, great, great.
Well, I didn't really know where to put this in the show.
Well, did you come to our weekly producer meeting?
She just...
I've been locked out of those.
I don't understand why.
She just finished up the mojito, and she enjoyed that.
Oh, okay.
And she seemed like... She said we're a little sour on the mojito, and she enjoyed that. Oh, okay. And she seemed like she said we're a little sour on the mojito,
and I think that was the one where it was like,
we've had better ones.
We made them incorrectly.
Okay.
She says, I have a question for the Sloppy Boys.
When you turn on your Mac computer, does the opening ding sound?
She has some quotes.
Yeah.
Does the opening ding sound like the opening chord for Hard Day's Night?
It does to me.
Just ask.
Wow. Ooh. Just ask. Wow.
Great question.
Because I don't think of Hard Day's Night, but I think of
Day in the Life.
No, but yet a different
Beatle. I think of
Live and Let Die by Paul McCartney.
When you
were young and young.
You used to say. Interesting. young. Oh, like Darren, you used to say?
Interesting.
Wow.
Yeah, I had never really put anything,
I had never associated anything with it other than, ooh, it's time for me to surf the net.
Hey, maybe I'll look at a new porno.
No, if you're listening to this,
that's not what I'm doing on the net.
No, I'll look at a new porno so that I can flag it
and have it taken down.
Yes, yes. Get this stuff off of here. When I'm doing on the net. No, I'll look at a new porno so that I can flag it and have it taken down. Yes, yes.
Get this stuff off of here.
When I'm not looking at stuff off here, it's a lot going on here.
I have to watch a lot of it.
No, you know what I did?
I found out, though, that that sound is copyrighted by Apple.
Oh, sure.
The buh.
Oh, that kind of sounds like the HBO buh's a good question i i've i think one of us has asked us we've played this game
yeah yeah what do you what do you think of and for me it is yeah it's funny because i
even if i just had watched 86 hours of sopranos i still hear it and think of curb yeah and then i every time i
hear the sopranos team i say what the fuck is going on yeah folks at home we're talking about
what do you picture after you hear oh what's the tune that starts playing in your head is it i think that the microsoft version of this apple startup sound
we're talking about i think microsoft hired brian eno to do theirs paid the big bucks
that one i can't think of though it's uh it's kind of like hello i'm b. I hope you've liked all my tunes over the years.
I've worked with David Byrne.
Okay.
I don't remember any Windows startups except for like XP.
I don't know.
Remember Windows XP? Yeah, Windows XP was like, get axed.
Get axed.
How do you ax?
You know what was a great joke about computer sounds?
It was in the old Clone High cartoon
When the bad guy was typing
And it would be like
Eep, eep, eep, thunk, thunk, thunk, thunk, eep, eep
It was like constant
Constant errors as he types away
Every key was the wrong key
That was such a great show
That was one of those,
like,
coming back.
Yeah.
One of those shows where it's like,
oh,
they had one season and that's,
and it ended on a cliffhanger and you,
they don't make any more.
Damn.
And that's too bad.
Uh,
I guess folks,
uh,
chime in with what you,
what song the,
um,
Mac startup makes you think of.
And the HBO one. And the HBO one.
And the HBO one.
And any other thoughts you might have.
Chime in with any thoughts you might have.
I have a piece of...
I don't know if it's Booze News related or what.
It is! Sure, Booze News is pretty loose these days.
I have an announcement to make.
We will no longer be doing the sound effect
to pronounce
the end of Booze News news that's your first contribution
as a booze news editor is that you're taking away the one feature you are in charge of
yes yes yes what i know i know it's so i'll tell you what jeff you're about to get your ass fired
from booze news you can do the intro you can come back for the drink of the day, but you're going to have to leave the room for Booze News.
No.
Jeff, get back on his good side
because I got threatened with this once.
It's, you know, I don't know.
I didn't know what to do.
I'm trying to win a fucking Pulitzer here
and you guys are fucking me up.
For this one, Jeff, do add it later,
but add the Mac startup sound.
We're going to go to fucking jail.
It'll get flagged.
Yeah, that's right.
It'll get flagged.
That's probably the most flaggable song on earth.
Sound.
Yeah, don't do that one, Jeff.
Yeah, just use this.
Is that it for Booze News?
Yep.
Wrap it up.
As far as I'm concerned.
Oh, you know what?
Tim, do that again.
Do that again nice and clear.
Yep, wrap it up.
As far as I'm concerned.
Oh, you know what?
Tim, do that again.
Do that again nice and clear.
Now, folks at home, send us a video of your computer starting up to that sound.
And we'll send you...
$100.
No, don't say that.
$100 gift certificate to Apple. Folks, send us a video...
$100 of certificate to Apple. Folks, send us a video. $100 of Apple stock.
Send us an email or a video
of something that you want to have sent to us,
and we'll play it and do it all on the show.
Okay, so are we wrapping up Booze News?
Because I have something else I need to talk about.
For Booze News?
Outside of Booze News?
No.
Okay.
Outside of Booze News.
Just before we get to the drink.
Yeah, go for it.
As we're talking about sounds on computers and stuff i so i think i do a good impression of the
aol you got mail okay the aol you've got mail guy let's hear it want to hear this okay
yeah you've got mail yeah that was good is close, or do I have to work on that?
Mike, I thought you were going to do like a jokey thing.
That was perfect.
That was pretty good.
I thought I had mail.
I was doing it the other day in my house by myself.
I always thought I did it really good when you sign off from AOL Instant Messenger,
when somebody else signs off.
Oh, yeah.
Ready?
Buh-buh.
Subtle. Remember that? else signs off oh yeah ready subtle remember that have you have you ever been sitting next
to mitch when he checks his email no he's still aol oh yeah and it goes you've got mail and he
goes i do oh yeah and i like there's there were sometimes like he's done it in front of us as a
joke then other times he's fully been like in a different room in an office by
himself.
And I hear,
I do.
You've got mail.
I do.
Dude,
that's the funniest thing.
When you hear some,
when you,
when somebody is being weird and it's not for anybody,
they don't know they're being watched and they're still being weird.
The best.
I do.
Do you remember I was in the shower?
I was doing a John Travolta impression by myself.
Sandy!
And you could hear me in the other room.
Sandy!
And me?
I was taking a shower and midway through, a penny fell out of my body.
That's right.
Out of where?
Well, the mind goes to a certain location, doesn't it?
I was shitting out change for weeks.
Come on now.
Well, that's it for Bibb, Bibb, Bibb, Bibb, right?
You guys ready for the drink of the day?
Yeah, let's do it.
Yeah.
The Boulevardier you've had.
Never had. Never had. had never had never heard no had no heard not but it does it conjure an image the boulevardier yeah i think you think
of like on broadway i i picture a french because i isn't that a French pronunciation you're thinking of boulevardier yeah yes um
I've had I like the drink and I like the whole vibe because this was um this word is very
appealing to me because there was a an episode of Bourdain when he was in New Orleans uh this
drink is not from New Orleans but when he was in New Orleans he had a local guy taking him
out showing around and the guy explained the concept of a boulevardier is someone who puts on
their best outfit on a Friday evening and goes out and just kind of walks the streets and kind of
whoa that's the person that does it that's called a boulevardier yeah boulevardier it's like saying
a man about town you know and you know a boulevard is a boulevardier it's like saying a man about town you know and
you know a boulevard is a street so it's kind of just a guy who walks the streets a man of the
streets yeah that's but in like the 1800s right yes and it's like but it's not like oh this is
just some weird guy it's like that was his activity like you put on a nice suit and it and
i'm going out and you don't have a, but you're a boulevardier,
and people bump into you.
Would he be stopping at places, or just he's out and about and bumping into people and chit-chatting?
He's got to stay on the sidewalk.
He's not permitted in any establishment.
It's about the street and the sidewalk.
No boulevardiers.
No, that's the thing.
Mike, the thing is that you're open-minded, right?
So if you meet someone and they invite you somewhere, you go there.
This is, I mean, this is me in Los Feliz, California, right?
I'm kind of walking.
Right, right, right.
You know.
You're having a night in the town.
I'm kind of, you know, I take in a film at the Vista.
I'm nibbling on a Goldberger.
I'm kind of, hey, look, Zooks is in his booth.
Hey, buddy.
How's it going?
See, I will not leave my home without a detailed itinerary.
And an invite.
Are you wearing a suit?
A birthday suit.
Oh!
Oh!
Oh!
Got me.
Wearing a suit, but actually he's nude.
Oh!
Okay.
Okay, but getting back to this drink, I think we're all Boulevardiers, but this drink particularly,
here's what's cool about this drink is that we're becoming cocktail dudes, right?
We kind of are learning and we kind of know a few things.
Oh, yeah.
Hell yeah.
Like, for example, when we hear about the sidecar, we can look at the ingredients and
be like, oh, that's a cognac sour, you know, because it's like a whiskey sour and be like, oh, that's a cognac sour. Because it's like a whiskey sour, but with cognac.
It's a cognac sour.
Yeah, we would say that.
It's a cognac sour.
See?
Perfect.
And you guys, would you have said that if I hadn't just said it?
Yeah.
Yeah, sure.
It's a cognac sour, yeah.
You guys are, your hands are shaking.
No, no, no.
I've never been more relaxed in my entire life.
You're shaking with confidence.
Please continue, Tim.
Let's leave this topic almost immediately.
Well, here's where I'm going.
When I tell you about the,
you guys knowing what you know about cocktail structure.
Yeah.
What comes,
when I say that the Boulevardier is is whiskey campari and sweet red vermouth
whiskey campari and sweet red vermouth what does your brain tell you that you're drinking here
uh something in the manhattan family yeah that's close yes because of whiskey and red vermouth
and if it would have just been some bitters, that would be a Manhattan.
Very good, Michael.
What I was getting at.
Thank you.
The thing I was trying to hint at is this is a fucking whiskey Negroni.
Okay.
Because a Negroni is gin Campari vermouth.
This is whiskey Campari vermouth. This is whiskey Campari vermouth.
Wow.
All right.
Which came first?
The Negroni.
I was going to say it's a chicken or the egg, but it's definitively the egg in this situation.
This one's the egg.
So Paris, the City of Lights.
Paris in the 20s.
I've referred to Paris in the 20s as a movable feast,
and I hold to that.
I want to get back to that term, but finish.
What does that mean?
After the podcast, we'll get into that.
Thank you.
There's this guy, Erskine Gwynn.
He had a magazine called The Boulevardier,
Man About Town,
that was for all the American expats living in Paris.
And he came up with this drink for them, for the American.
Americans love whiskey.
He came up with a whiskey Negroni for the Americans in Europe.
And here's how the drink got famous, though.
We've talked about Harry's's new york bar in paris um came up in our sidecar episode and and i i've been there i was bragging that i'd been there and
i had a bloody mary but the funny thing about it was it's a parisian bar that's american themed
um y'all right right right and it's this is where like Gertrude Stein and Hemingway and Fitzgerald hung out there and stuff.
And Owen Wilson.
Yes.
But the owner, Harry himself, Harry of Harry's New York Bar,
the way he had made the sidecar popular was by putting it in one of his books,
one of his cocktail recipe books.
And that very same dude, Harry, put the fucking Boulevardier in a different one of his books uh one of his cocktail recipe books and that very same dude harry put the fucking
boulevardier in a different one of his books boom boom so he says hey this magazine man came up with
it i'm gonna put in my book bing bang boom now it's all over the world you can order it wherever
you want i've had him a couple of them recently at the dresden i'm a fan and for for our younger listeners that would be like putting it in
your stories yeah um yeah it like if you put it in your reels you know that's not the perfect
analogy but your stories yes yes and for our octogenarian listeners your snail mail you've got snail mail i do not bad i do ingredients according to the iba
association of cocktails nice and easy 45 milliliters uh an ounce and a half of bourbon
or whiskey okay uh bourbon or whiskeymy. Bourbon or rye whiskey.
Uh-huh.
Great.
So I always thought it was just rye, but they're saying bourbon or rye.
Thank you.
Okay.
30 milliliters, one ounce of bitter Campari.
Problematic with you guys.
Not fans of the stuff.
Right.
Ashy?
30 milliliters, one ounce of sweet red vermouth.
Very divisive amongst the sloppy boys.
I have shit talked it, but I bought a fancier brand today and I'm excited to taste.
Method.
Pour all ingredients into mixing glass with ice cubes.
Stir well.
Oh, not shake.
Stir.
This drink gets worse all the time. Keep going.
Strain into a chilled cocktail glass
garnish with an orange zest optionally a lemon zest cool i got all the goods i'm gonna do a
lemon do not have the orange i'm doing an orange orange and then uh are you so tim you think
regardless of what the iba says says, uh, the rise,
the way to go,
you've seen,
you've seen more rye.
I,
well,
you know,
I really don't know shit,
but I wanted to say rye because,
um,
when I think of the Manhattan,
I think of rye.
Um,
but I would go either way.
I'm probably going to use rye cause I don't like it as much.
And I,
if I,
if I use bourbon, I'm giving this drink the, an and I if I use bourbon I'm giving
this drink the
unfair advantage because I love bourbon
same I'm looking
at my Jim Beam bourbon
right across the room
yeah you did a little finger gun with that click click
everybody
been staring
at me all day
guys I don't want to judge this i don't want to
judge a book by its cover right i don't expect i'm gonna like this at all jeff i'm with you i
think this is gonna be one of those tough man drinks that we don't do well with yeah i know
i liked it oh god it's it's tough man uh we're too wimpy for this drink but this drink is meant
to be a guy who kind of saunters around a city taking in the vibes it's not it's not exactly a blue collar drink um no it's got some
strikes against we're not vermouth heads uh you guys are not campari heads i'm not crazy for
campari i'm just open to it um and it's got to be used in the perfect measure what what uh you said you got a a fancier vermouth which which brand did you get um antica
formula oh i got dolan oh yeah i got even worse than dolan i got i got like a uh gallo i'll tell
you in a minute i was looking at that gallo it was only 4.99 for a big old vat of it what what
yeah i i here i'm here dropping $11.99.
Dude, I'm fucking dropping $17.99
on a little tiny bottle.
All right, folks.
We'll see you back here in a jiffy.
How?
Later.
And we're back.
A couple boulevardiers with their boulevardiers.
It's us.
We sauntered all around our streets and came right back with these.
I'll tell you, you know how I felt stirring this up?
I felt proud.
I was looking at my mixing glass, and I looked at my lemon zest, and I was like, I can't believe I'm making this. It looks beautiful. I felt proud. I was looking at my mixing glass and I looked at my lemon zest and I was like, I can't believe
that I'm making this. It looks beautiful. I felt
proud.
Oh, because you like these, Tim, the ones you've
had before. I like these, but this
well, because I like Negronis and I've
only had a couple of these, but just in general
you know, like
look at it. It's a real cocktail. All of us.
We admit we're good.
It's definitely red.
It's red. It's in the little, I mean, Jeff's a stem cocktail. All of us. We admit we're good. It's definitely red. It's red.
It's in the little, I mean, Jeff's is stemless,
but Tim and I have little stem coupe glasses here.
It's cool.
Well, let's do it.
Ooh, I zested the rim.
I'm liking that.
Oh, I forgot to express my zest.
Oh, yeah.
Express, express.
Ooh. Mmm.
Mmm.
Okay.
Why do I like this
more than the...
What was the other one, Tim? Negroni?
Yeah, I remember
really not liking the... Because this has a rye whiskey kick.
Yeah, but I mean, like, I don't love rye either.
It's the Negroni with the rye whiskey kick.
My question is, why is mine already gone?
Yeah, okay.
This is...
Remember that Luxardo bitter I had?
Yep.
Dusty bottle.
Yeah, I still have it.
I got actual Campari today.
Oh.
So I think that is helpful with the taste.
I think if I made my Negroni or my other, whatever other dusty, ashy drink I've had on this pod,
it's probably due to that Luxardo bitter.
This still has the little hint of ash.
Yeah. And you are sitting
in your fireplace as you
say this. Yeah.
You know what I think is saving me on this?
I'm surprised that I like it
on first sips.
But you'll see, I got a big old
orange rind floating in there.
Yeah. And I expressed it
all over the place, and I think I'm getting a lot of that in there. Yeah. And I expressed it all over the place,
and I think I'm getting a lot of that nice citrus.
Yeah, that's nice.
Now, yeah, I used lemon, and you used orange.
Tim, what did you use?
I wish I had orange. A grape?
I only had a lemon.
A grape.
What about a lime?
What about a grape?
I see a grapefruit.
Yeah, how come grapefruit is never zested when we did our
like hemingway daiquiris we should have guys twist it don't let's keep that to ourselves
and i'll be part of the sloppy boys cocktail if we whisper it then no one will know yeah wait what
we should be the first to use grapefruit as a zest yes and we'll do that thing you love jeff
where grapefruit won't be one of the ingredients in the drink
and then just like, boom.
Oh, damn.
I love it.
It's a fucking...
It makes me so happy.
It's like a Ham's Light beer and then a grapefruit zest.
Where the hell does one get a grapefruit anyway?
Mike, save it for your stand-up.
So this...
Oh, my stand-up career is dead with this material like that.
You walk in on stage, hey, where does anyone get a grapefruit anyway?
Everyone's like, the grocery store, the grocery store, the produce section of the grocery store.
When, now?
Yes, pretty much any time.
Not right now.
You're on stage.
age um this is a really uh i feel i do feel like a very uh a fucking 1900 1920s cocktail person i'm in a bar there's a lot of wood around it's the glasses are like that thick glass yeah yes and
that i think the type of guy drinking this thing is someone who has a couple sips then
tucks a little flower in his lapel puts his hat on and heads out to the
boulevard and does a little sauntering this is has a it has a sweetness to it i wasn't expecting
it's kind of like us that my body is a sweet red vermouth you weren't expecting the sweetness you
know this definitely tastes like an old-timey cocktail with some culture behind it. But how does it suit the modern man?
Yeah, between texts, you know?
Instead of sauntering the boulevard, these days you're scrolling tweets.
Yeah, I'm sauntering between tabs on my Google Chrome browser.
With, like, Google Glasses.
Well, I'm loving it because of the balance right i i said
um i'm not the biggest rye whiskey fan because it's more spicy and not as kind of like i like
that kind of caramelized woodiness of of bourbon and rye is more of a bright burn but
oh you put all these weird ingredients together and they balance each other out i
like campari in this context i like ryan this context and guys the revelation
ever since i shit on the manhattan i felt kind of bad and i felt like it was worth a revisit
and today with this expensive sweet red vermouth i a sip, and it's so much better than the stuff I had used on the Manhattan.
And it was almost, it almost reminded me of like Luxardo cherries, or like cherry hearing that we used in our Singapore slings.
It was sweet, but it was dark, and it was black cherry-esque,
and I want to make a Manhattan with it so that Manhattan can have web redemption.
You know what you should do?
Tim, you should develop an ice cream.
You know how there's like a rum butternut?
What is it?
Rum raisin. Rum raisin. You should's like a rum, rum butternut. What is it? Rum raisin.
Rum raisin.
You should do like a red vermouth ice cream.
That's a good idea.
And that's a very good idea.
Okay.
Michael, chill out.
What, how can I make, what if I want it to be like a fancy version of Cherry Garcia?
So instead of cherry, it's sweet red vermouth.
And then what's instead of the chocolate, it's like, it's like carob or something, some shit.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't fucking know.
Godiva.
Cherry garcivier.
Now, Tim, do you remember what the bad vermouth was?
Because I used Nuali Pratt.
Nuali Pratt.
I'll just take the Nuali Pratt.
Wally Pratt is famous for making just the worst vermouth.
It was the cheap one at Cap and Cork.
Yeah, we may have actually shared a bottle,
and I didn't like it.
You shared a bottle after a night of discussion.
Yes, we toasted to the night,
to the boulevardiers of the podcastosphere.
To the wanderers, to the gadabouts,
to the reconteurs.
Our thing, when we sabered champagne,
we said, to all the other sabers, slash on.
To all the other Sabres, slash on.
Now, my little Vermouth Month take here.
Is this Vermouth Month again?
Kind of.
Yes, I got a brand new bottle today, so I think that helps,
because when we made the Manhattans, I had an old bottle.
So this is good on that front as well. like it and did you guys remember to put your
Vermouth right into the fridge?
No
So what you're saying is the vermouth is luth
That's right
The vermouth has turned
Guys don't you feel that race against the clock
Now that you have to drink all your vermouth
Within a month
I know I'm going to run out in the street
Who wants a Bavardier? I know. I'm going to run out in the street. Who wants a Boulevardier?
I can't even say it.
Who wants a Boulevardier? Mike, you'll be mobbed.
Fine, as long as I can get rid of this.
That's a good way to become a Boulevardier
though, is you walk on the street every night
with your bottle of vermouth trying to
pass it around the town giving people sips.
Anyone, young and old.
I've talked on this show about my great southern saunter through New Orleans, and I talked about...
Yes, Tim, I believe you have.
Okay, southern guy.
I've also talked about, Mike, be ready for this one, my long kind of drunken stroll through Chicago.
Yeah, Tim, I think you did mention that at one particular point in this podcast.
What about you guys?
Are you, the two of you,
do you like to take a long, pensive stroll?
Not pensive, ponderous.
I will have, yeah, I'll take constitutions
all around Brooklyn, Manhattan,
the whole, all types of things.
I thought constitution was the shit.
Oh, that's constitutional. Morning constitution. That's constipation, my man, and it's all types of things. I thought Constitution was the shit. Oh, that's constitutional.
Morning Constitution. That's constipation, my man.
And it's the lack of shit.
Very different. And Mike, I've even known
you to take such a long stroll. Sometimes
you go 26 miles and change.
Yeah, I mean, these aren't strolls. These are high-paced,
intense runs, focused.
Yeah. Mike, you
ever walk over that
old Williamsburg Bridge?
I've been over it and back, and then back again.
In the same day?
Oh, yeah.
Well, you know, Tim, you know LA's a real walking town.
We love to walk here.
We don't drive anywhere.
I'm the walker.
It feels like a moonwalk.
I put more miles on the Heel Toe Express than I...
Wait, we had a joke.
Remember, when we first lived in LA,
I used to,
I had a telemarketing job that was three miles away and I walked to it for
some reason.
And then we had a joke that we,
we talked a lot about how I always,
always hoofing it and that,
or taking the heel toe express.
And then we said that I was going to put out a book called hoofing it
short stories of long walks. that I was going to put out a book called Huffin' It, Short Stories of Long Walks.
Tim, I remember coming back from my job
and depending on where you were on your walk,
I could scoop you up
coming back from your telemarketing gig.
I remember you picking me up a lot
and then there was one time
I was walking back from that job
and it was raining and i stood under a little tree not a tree that gives you cover but a sad
little charlie brown tree and i was kind of standing there being like oh boy look the la is
not working out for me man i just graduated a couple months ago came out here and what the
fuck am i doing and then in that moment of like a guy,
an Ithaca grad I knew pulled up
next to me.
His name was John and he had huge biceps.
You remember that guy?
Oh. He's like a film guy.
He pulled up.
My name's Mike with huge biceps.
No, it wasn't me. Yeah, no, Jeff with
amazing abs. Oh.
He liked
the band White Stripes, and he would blast it in his car.
Mike, I shit you not, Ball and Biscuit was blasting from this car.
I remember him on the Ithaca campus driving around playing that music.
Well, this was probably three years later.
He's still listening to the same album.
He was an intense guy it was big
i'm i'm i'm under the tree hearing the rain the pitter patter of the rain and then i hear
quite possible i'm your third man girl and then he was like timmy kimmy k get in here and he drove
me home and it's not like he was doing great in la either but it was it was kind of a uh i was
kind of eating crow.
To the other film kids in Ithaca,
they've been like, yeah, kind of a hot shot out here.
I swear I don't always stand under trees getting rained on.
Were you, before he left his car, you were like,
would you mind if I use that song as my favorite guitar solo
on the Sloppy Boys blowout?
And he was like, what, is that like your Patreon show
where you kind of do whatever you want?
It's the future of media.
It's a podcast.
I'm sorry.
Hey, I'll tell you my other brilliant move,
and you Slopheads can use this.
This telemarketing job with this long walk.
I didn't have no money, right?
They paid me minimum wage.
One day I'm walking home.
It's cold.
So I pop into Rite Aid, buy a crew neck sweatshirt, put it on, walk three miles, stop by at another
Rite Aid, return it.
Wow.
Get out of here.
Get my $7.99 bag, walk up the hill to my house.
Bing, bang, boom.
Sir, sir, this thing is warm.
It stinks.
This smells Greek.
Do you remember when we were first in L.A.,
we tried to get a job at Ribs USA,
and they wouldn't hire us?
And I had like seven years of rib smoking experience yeah i i had uh i
had come from working i was busing tables at a steakhouse before that and they wouldn't hire us
you know what it was i think that they could smell on us we were little comedy boys and our hearts
weren't in the restaurant industry yeah yeah yeah isn't that the worst you don't got the meat on
your bones for this well i remember my interview they were like uh
they're like so what are you into and i was like kids in the hall the state um
exit 57 did you say the steak or the steak oh please i hope he said the steak please
no ribs for all and the steak whoa isn't that a shitty time though when when you first moved to
la and like you don't want
to do anything i i missed so many jobs because they were like we don't know if your heart's in
this it's like nobody's heart is in any job what are you talking about the cruel irony is i've been
a comedy writer for 10 11 years now and i am way more excited about ribs and i would like the
prospect of smoking pork spare ribs like that.
You should go back. You should go back there and say
I've gotten the comedy stuff out of my system.
I've done a lot of thinking and I'm back.
I kick the door down. They're like, it's him.
We knew he'd come back.
Where's your friend with the big
biceps? I remember
early on in, Tim, you just
reminded me of this. Early on in
our stay in LA i was i went to
the universal lot to have a meeting at dino de laurentis yeah and i got there very early so i
just walked around the universal lot and i got lost in the fake city that they had going on there
and i was like fuck i can't get i can't i gotta get out of this place i can't be
late for my meeting but i was early because i got lost in a fake city and then tim i think i called
you and said i asked if you could help me out because you were by a computer oh no i i came
and picked you up you picked me up but this that must have been after the the interview then oh
yes right okay you yeah you needed these were MapQuest days when you wanted me to Google something for you.
And you were...
Yeah, you came to pick me up, but you were like...
You called me and you were like, what street are you on?
I was like, uh, Jimi Hendrix Boulevard.
It was fake streets.
It was...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was like, Tim, can you help me?
I'm lost.
I don't know what the fuck to do.
I was like, yeah, where are you?
And you were like, the corner of Jimi Stewart and Jimi Hendrix.
It's like fake cartoon street streets in a fake town and i'm lost and i'm afraid on map quest i was like there's there's a gang of minions that are about to kick my ass
needless to say i am not known for working at dino de laurentis. Yep. Wait, Dino De Laurentiis, is that a fashion designer?
De Laurentiis?
No, he's a producer.
It's a producer,
but Dino De something is a fashion designer.
Dino Stamatopoulos is a comedy writer,
I'll tell you that much.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then Dino is a dog on the cartoon.
Well, exactly.
Exactly.
Oh, guys,
so as we're doing the podcast here,
I looked at my phone.
I just had a missed call from my landlord What's it say?
That I
No I missed the call
He left a voicemail I see here
But I don't know if I ever told you
That my landlord
Weirdly enough
Is Stevie Wonder
No shit
Mike
How did this not come up?
How did this not come up?
I know, we've talked about this,
Stevie Wonder on the podcast more than four times.
Have you met him?
Yeah, I've met him before,
but do you mind if I just,
just because this might be a pressing issue,
do you mind if I play the voicemail
so I can listen to it?
Yeah, I mean, you've got business to attend to,
so if you've got to listen to this voicemail, that's fine.
Yeah, he's my landlord.
Oh, we're on board, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We don't doubt it.
Well, also, what's today?
It's very early on this first week of the month.
Oh, I bet it's about my shit.
Okay, can we just listen to this?
Oh, I think it could be about your...
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just called to say the rent's due.
I just called to say I fixed the stairs.
say i fixed the stairs i just called to say the rents due and i'll need it by the end of the month
i decided to give you a little extra time with your rent this month, Mike,
because you've been so good to me,
watering my plants when I'm out of town and making me those big spaghetti and meatball dinners
every other Sunday night.
Hey, listen, if you're not doing anything later this week,
I DVR'd the last couple mass singers
if you want to Drink a few beers
And
And watch
Or maybe even the
Bolivianier
If that's how you call it
I know you're doing that this week
I just come
To say
The rent's due
Oh sorry
I already Did that part.
Okay, Mike, I'll talk to you later.
Oh, and before I forget,
isn't Mary in 18B a real Karen sometimes?
All right, I'll talk to you.
Bye, Mike.
Ah-ha! Woo!
Oh, man. More of a Michael Jackson. Yeah, okay, man.
Kind of more of a Michael Jackson.
Yeah, okay, great.
Okay, so my rent's due, of course.
I forgot.
Yeah.
But at the end of the month, that's so great.
He's given me the whole month to...
You have a lot of time.
That's amazing.
Yeah, that's awesome.
Fantastic.
And then I'm sorry to hear about your stairs,
but it sounds like they're okay.
No, yeah, he fixed...
Apparently, he had a...
Yeah, we did have a problem with the stairs.
Not apparently. I know. i walk up the thing apparently and then um and then mary is a karen sounds like yeah in what did he say 18b i forget what the number was what's cool you have
that kind of like uh yeah he's cool we hang out and shit we do dinners sometimes and it's awesome
that he that he said all that on your voicemail and and i this is like just a small
thing but for me i was kind of i lost interest a little bit while during the message i was like
this is cool and everything i mean it's not really for us it's for mike yeah he's like
hall of famer and he's a legend and i fucking love stevie wonder but i did kind of get bored
and i started to think about like,
sometimes when we play tapes on the shows,
they have to do with the drink of the week.
And then Stevie knew that it was Boulevardier week.
Yeah.
He pronounced it a little weird.
I mean, he doesn't, you know,
we pronounce it because we know.
We're cocktail guys.
We're familiar with the drink.
Yeah, we're cocktail guys.
He knows music. Yeah, i don't think he's
much of a drinker either he but he did want to have some beers he doesn't drink that much but
he knows i like to drink um yeah i know i totally get you phasing out or you know sort of not
listening because if one of your guys's landlords or yeah no landlord voice voicemails are typically
like not a thing that you would intently listen to.
But in your case, Stevie Wonder...
You don't want them to be boring.
You want those calls
to be boring.
You don't want an exciting call
from your landlord.
Jesus Christ. Another funny
thing I picked up on that call, Mike.
Oh, sure. Fox's The Masked
Singer. Yeah. to me i i think
i've seen like little bits of it i i think that show is kind of dumb bullshit not for me okay
you know i haven't seen the last few but if you have don't you know i i think of myself as a
musician and so like these like sort of contest shows i'm like this kind of seems like bullshit to me. And now here's Stevie Wonder.
Yeah.
He loves Masked Singer.
He loves it, yeah.
So I'm starting to think maybe I should give that show another shot.
Well, it's a music show.
He knows music.
It's always surprising to him when it's revealed,
and I help him out with who it is, but yeah.
I mean, that's Tony Hawk, Stevie.
He does some of the best tricks on a skateboard
that's not i mean i don't want to be ableist here but you know stevie wonder i i when they reveal
the masked singer it's weird he would love that show that is based so much on pulling a mask off
and seeing somebody's face but honestly we don't even really love the show it's just something we
put on so we can have a few beers there's some music in the background and he don't even really love the show It's just something we put on So we can have a few beers
There's some music in the background
And he doesn't even really like to drink
So it's really just an excuse for you
You to drink beers
At his place
Yeah
It's a place for me to have a few free beers
Get to kick it with
I mean, you said it yourself
A rock and roll hall of fame
Yeah
Songs in the key of life
Inner visions Yeah, he's always telling me about stories From the 70s, 80s, 90s you said it yourself, a rock and roll hall of fame. Yeah. Songs in the key of life.
Inner visions.
Yeah, he's always telling me about stories from the 70s, 80s, 90s, you know, all that stuff.
Like typical landlord shit or like music stuff?
Music stuff.
No, I don't care about the landlord stuff.
He will try to sneak in some landlord stories.
You're like, oh, yeah, I had to really cock the bathroom coping of this one place, you
know, like Stevie, come on.
Yeah, this, you know, did I tell you about the toilet that had a turd in it?
Well, he's always going, he's like, did I tell you what Mary said to me today?
I was like, I really don't have a problem with Mary.
She seems to be aggressive towards him, but she's been here forever before he's been here.
She's a bit of a Karen, yeah.
Yeah, she's a bit of a Karen.
So he thinks, well, whatever.
So that's my thing.
Should we make a, I'm glad I heard that, though, that I've got some time.
Yes. Yes. Let's do a... I'm glad I heard that, though, that I've got some time. Yes.
Yes.
Let's do a little second rounder.
Sure.
We'll come back and we'll give this a really stern evaluation.
Howard Stern?
I love it.
I love it.
Robin.
Robin.
Hey, I'm going to throw bologna at your butt.
He would actually do that.
Folks, we'll be right back.
And we're back with our final thoughts on the Boulevardier.
Okay, I love it.
I'll order it again.
This is better than the ones I've ordered at bars,
and it is redeemed sweet red vermouth for me,
and it's redeeming the idea of a Manhattan,
and I apologize to the Manhattan.
Nice.
Well, you're making it with those good ingredients over there, Tim.
I'm with you.
I thought to myself when I was buying the stuff today, I said,
this is not going to be good.
I don't want to do this.
But I'm happy about this drink.
I will get it.
I'll make it myself again, because this is good.
And I'll get it at a nice place that I think will be doing it correctly.
Yeah.
I mean, I'll give this a solid B.
I like it a lot more than I thought I would.
It's in order again, obviously.
It's probably not going to be part of my routine.
It's a nice one, though, if you're out with people like,
hey, do you want to get around to Boulevardier's?
What the hell are you talking about?
Just try it, man.
We're in a nice place.
And I'm bringing you here, so do what I say.
You're paying.
You're paying, but I brought you here.
You know that.
Is that a good vibe to have with your friends? Like, do what I say. but i brought you here you know that it is that a good vibe to
have with your friends like do what i say i'm bringing you here these are not your friends
these are your co-workers oh sorry i zoned out i'll be honest no no i didn't i didn't say if
but i'm now i'm addending uh amending that it's you're with your co-workers mike it's on us for
assuming yeah that's our show follow us on social media at the sloppy boys where we release these amending that it's you're with your coworkers. Mike, it's on us for assuming.
Yeah.
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Very good.
Oh, my God.
Noise.
Super funny.
Thanks for listening.
We'll see you next week.
Later, everybody.
Now to hit the boulevard.
Left foot, right foot.
That's the way.
If you walk the boulevard today.
Hey.
I'm walking in.
And I'm trying to drive.
That's why I honked.
Give it up for your boys.
Give it up for your boys.
Give it up for your boys.
Give it up for your boys