The Sloppy Boys - 70. Horse's Neck
Episode Date: February 18, 2022The guys make a drink honoring the best part of the best animal around.HORSE'S NECK RECIPE1.33oz/40ml Cognac4oz/120ml Ginger Aledash Angostura Bitters (optional)Pour Cognac and ginger ale directly int...o a highball glass with ice cubes. Stir gently. Add bitters if preferred. Garnish with a rind of lemon spiral.Recipe via the International Bartenders Association (https://www.iba-world.com/) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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hey folks welcome to the sloppy boys where we take a deep dive into the drinks that you love
i'm jeff dutton along with mike hanford and tim kalpakis what is, equine stylies? Oh, very nice.
Very nice.
Mike, are you dried out?
What's happening?
I got to tell you, man, I woke up this morning to run at about 645.
I said, I'm going to get up early and run.
Miserable.
And I did it.
And I feel like crazy tired today.
Like my breath is like short.
I'm like, eww.
You're supposed to be all energized and usually
runners are preaching the gospel.
And I've been eating well.
What happened to the runner's high I hear so much about?
I don't know if that exists or if it does,
it's very small. I don't
really get a runner's high.
I get high. But you're a runner guy.
Do a little.
So was that the first run in a while? No, not really. I don't really get a runner's eye. I get high. You're a runner guy. Yeah.
So was that the first run in a while?
No, not really.
Maybe we'll take this out.
But I'm getting off.
I've lapsed on some antidepressant medicines.
And so that's like leaving my system, I think.
So maybe that has something to do with it.
That would be making you tired.
Yes. Yes.
Well, Michael, we care about your physical health
and your mental health.
Keep us posted.
So let's all keep an eye on you
while you're dealing with this.
It's just like a funky feeling.
It's a funk.
A funky feeling doesn't sound so bad, Michael.
Yeah, I know.
It's the funk on the one, Bob.
I know.
It's a groove, man.
You do have a bit of a George Clinton vibe today.
That's true.
I've got the big, long dreads.
Star glasses.
Yeah.
That's a great look.
Man, when we hit phase four of Swapy Boys, we got to have rhinestone vests, open shirt
with like- We're in phase one still,
right? We're in a real long extended
phase one. I thought we were phase three and a half.
The podcast was three and a half.
Four is very close. I can't wait. Four sounds
like the only good phase.
You know what's funny?
Jeff, you did that on the one. It was the Bootsy
Collins thing, that video
where he's just breaking down how he plays
funk.
I remember I watched that a couple months ago,
and every once in a while, if I just pull my bass out,
I'm like, oh, yeah, this is easy to do.
Like, dun, dun, dun, dun.
Well, you would never have hit it on the one before.
No, and if we do another album, it's going to be all funk on my end.
I'm coming in with a lot of on the four type songs.
We used to joke about that, didn't we? Like, hey, hey, we we'll all do our own thing but then we'll meet up back here on the one everyone have fun wander around spread your wings it's a fucking mess but if we meet up back here on
the one it'll be fine don't go too far you've only got three beats until we get back you kind of just
gotta at least check in with each other once per measure. It's like a field trip for elementary school kids.
I don't know where Mike went.
He said he was going to be here.
I don't know where he went.
Hey, speaking of music, we're musicians.
Here's a music thing that's been kind of, that irritated me today.
Do you know a current top 40 pop song by like a teen artist named Gail, which is a funny name for a teen girl?
The song is called A, B, C, D, E, F, U.
Yes, I just heard this song recently.
So it's a cute, I wonder what version you heard, because the real version of the song is A, B, C, D, E, F, U, and your mom and your sister and yeah it's like f u but
the radio and i just in my car heard it on kiss fm it goes a b c d e forget you
and it was like i know why silo said forget. You can't say fuck you. But you were saying F you.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
And you threw off your little alphabet joke.
You know what's funny about that?
That is weird.
Thank you.
Bad.
I don't know who makes that call.
Probably Gail herself.
Do you think the FCC is that?
Won't let me be.
Won't let me be.
Let you guys be, sure.
I'm really shocked. If the FCC has a problem with fu that's crazy i feel like these record labels are just so scared
at the possibility of a backlash down the line or something that you know what like if you're
working on whose call it was you think it's the the i bet it's like lawyers that are super scared
and they're playing and they're making her play it safe because that have on tv shows with the censors you have them
like the the like lawyers vet a thing and they're like we'd really love if you just steer clear this
whole area and you're like well of course the lawyers like that but i'm a fucking renegade
writer yeah it's true so wait is is this artist like Olivia Rodrigo age?
Is it for kids? Great. She's just
Gail. I mean, it's just, you gotta know
Gail. It's Gail.
Gail is just Gail.
Gail's ageless, you know,
from here to the end of time. Gail, man.
I've been trying to get, I've been trying
to get, I call
Olivia Rodrigo Livrod.
I've been trying to make that take off and no one's going for it. Oh, Livrod. I'm going to the Livrod showo Livrod. I've been trying to make that take off, and no one's going for it.
Oh, Livrod.
I'm going to the Livrod show.
Livrod.
Hey, Livrod.
I loved you in High School Musical, the musical, the series, Liv.
It's got like a cod liver.
Livrod's got a cod liver.
Yeah, exactly.
That's why I like it.
It has that kind of oily protein health vibe to it.
Well, just going back to Gail for a second that song i did hear a couple days ago you know intermittently it's been like
in my head which you know hats off to gail it's a great pop song but i can't get like the beat
right on the uh the fu part it's like you gotta meet at the, F, U. Like, that doesn't sound right to me,
but with a backing track, I'm sure I can figure it out.
I thought F-U sounds good.
I had that feeling with Forget You.
A, B, C, D, E, forget you.
Yeah.
It's weird.
A, B, C, D.
You should have changed all the letters to Apple Baker Charlie.
What if it was something like,
A, B, C, you're making me blue, so sad.
Cool.
Something like that.
Cool, Mike.
That's good.
Or, you know, just what's wrong with that?
A, B, C, D, E, F, G.
The song's called G.
Elementa P, motherfucker. When I was a very small toddler i thought element o was one letter
very embarrassing element o oxygen uh you know what i'm curious about just while we're doing
some shit chat we there was a time early on in this uh podcast that jeff would call things a stone cold classic
yes oh drink distinction yeah it was like if it was it was a good drink it would be like a stone
cold classic and we kind of like ran up against like three of those in a row so we were like wait
you can't just say everything's a stone cold that rings a a bell. Yeah, sure. I forget.
Maybe that can pop back up on the Twitter.
I forget you and your mom and your sister and your dog.
Well, maybe the horse neck.
We don't know.
Oh.
Yeah, the horse neck might be.
Don't reveal what the thing is.
All right.
Well, before we get into all that.
Oh, yes.
What do you say we. Oh, it is all that.
Yeah.
Oh, I want to give this Bibbibib Booze News little intro too, which was fucking...
Shit.
Yeah.
Remember a couple of weeks ago we had a great Beatles Booze News song?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You've had.
You've had.
You've had.
Well, I, as the editor-in-chief of Booze News who goes And gets the Booze News themes from
The email right found this
Track that was sent to us
Even before that
Episode aired so just
Hit the track oh
I tried a white claw try tried a truly, even tried a Topo Chico.
That's good.
But none of them could really move me.
None of them were for me.
No.
Ooh, then I listened to Booze News.
Ooh, I knew which one I should choose.
Every single day of my life.
Ooh, every single day.
My favorite kind of seltzer is Bud Light.
Yes!
Yes!
Oh, man.
It's Booze News, you bloody tosser.
Boozy Beatlemania by Madeline Cook, old school slob head.
Ah, yes.
That's nice to see.
There's a lot of people that like our music, and then we're like, hey, have you heard the pod?
And then crickets.
Yeah.
Hey, maybe I brought this up before, but a dude came up to me and was just like, hey, I love your guys' stuff. Do the Birthday Boys still do anything? You know how-
We do everything.
How angry I was that this guy was a fan of Birthday Boys and had not heard of the Sloppy Boys band or podcast?
Had not heard.
Had not heard, not had?
I was furious.
Not had. Not had, not made love to any of us.
You know, it's a failing of the listenership, if you ask me.
Not putting the word out.
Right.
We're doing our deed.
You get on the street, you stop people.
Hey, have you listened to this?
You give them a thumbnail drive with some of the episodes.
That's how we're finding it.
Okay, well.
Wait, Miranda Cook.
She's a musician, right? we met her in madeline cook
oh man yes in the zoom rooms is when she she played some correct them i know michael
she just she's done like covers of our piano covers yeah yeah yeah she's good and because
her song was about bud seltzer it made me be inspired to follow in the footsteps of little duddy and buy myself some
of these hey next bud light next i'm drinking my first pack of them next how's that taste well
i had a few uh this weekend and and yeah, it's interesting, Jeff.
I was quizzical.
When you were drinking it, I was like, it's beer flavor, though, right?
And you were like, kind of.
And you said it has notes of elderberry and chamomile.
Yeah, I was just repeating what I saw online, though.
I wouldn't be able to identify that.
Well, yeah, I wouldn't have.
I think it's pronounced olderberry.
I wouldn't have said those notes either.
Notes of dingleberry?
What's Dingleberry?
Now you don't want to know, Tim.
No, Tim. Bad stuff.
It's a little nugget
of turd that's stuck to some anus
hair and dangles.
Nugget, Jeff? Nugget of turd?
This is why we don't have listeners.
That's going to be in a Booze News theme. Good lord. This is why we don't have listeners. That's going to be in a Booze News
theme. Good lord.
This is why we don't have any listeners.
We've got thousands and thousands
and tens of thousands of listeners, Mike.
And they love Dingleberries.
Whether or not I've ever heard
of the concept.
I...
Well, yeah.
I was really excited
for Bud Light next because it's zero
carbo light beer, but it's in the tall can and it kind of looked like a hip thing.
And yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't taste like beer.
I've had a couple over the weekend and I do like it.
I mean, it's, if you think of it as a seltzer, it's fun.
If you think of it as a beer, no, no, no.
It's like, it's maybe like a hoppy refresher.
It has a little bit of a hop flavor, but it's not hops.
And like, I looked into it even after we did that.
And it was, and it said made with premium ingredients, including hops and barley.
And I was like, that's worded a little too imaginatively.
They put like trace amounts just so they could say that.
Yeah.
Why don't they, premium ingredients,
why don't they just call them premium greedies?
That's another thing.
Because people might think of like premature infants
and get really sad, Mike.
Really?
Right?
Oh, easy come, easy go with some of these things, yeah.
I just need an answer.
You gotta ask. Then I just wanted an answer. You got to ask.
Dan, I just wanted to mention for anyone out there watching Euphoria,
the sexy teens of Euphoria in a recent episode broke into a convenience store
or they go into a convenience store to steal booze.
And guess what they stole?
Fireball.
12-pack of White Claw.
No, Fireball. That would have of White Claw. No, Fireball.
That would have been more interesting if they had done that,
because we were just saying that convenience stores.
Really, they didn't get any famous grouse?
No, they didn't even get any Bud Light ugly sweater pack.
They didn't get any Galliano?
Yeah, they were probably not Slophead characters.
Yeah, that's weird.
This is like a...
I don't watch Euphoria.
That's what I was going to say.
It's a hip show, though, right?
It's kind of on the edge and everyone's...
It's good, crazy drug stuff.
Everyone's on drugs in high school.
Crazy drug stuff, but it's like written by a guy who's 40.
Like, yeah, what if kids did this?
And, you know, what if the kids were doing this?
What if they did that? What if they did that? And, you know, what if the kids were doing this? What if they did that?
What if they did that?
No, they wouldn't do that.
His writers were, well, sir, what if they did that?
Oh, let me write that down.
Hold on.
Let me just read back what I just typed here.
Oh, they did that?
Well, they didn't do it yet.
Thank God.
Hope they don't never do that.
Then erase it, sir. Erase it erase it all right we'll stick with this
point me toward my delete key perish the thought god forbid um michael you mentioned you had some
booze news was that the booze news the i kept it light bud light next and euphoria great oh i
wanted to just say i thought that that I'm always keeping my peepers out
for,
it didn't look like product placement.
It looked like this is what the
kids are going to go get some booze and this is what they steal.
And I thought that that was accurate, that that is
what some cool LA teenagers
would steal is White Claw.
Right. It's because we saw that cool commercial
that they put out, you know,
in the summertime. Yeah, well, it was like, Let's Claw. Right. It's because we saw that cool commercial that they put out in the summertime.
That's like, what is it?
Let's Claw.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kids want to do.
Is it Let's Claw or like How Do You Claw?
How do you drink your White Claw can?
In what manner do you ingest?
It probably is Let's Claw, right?
Mm-hmm.
Oh, yeah.
Michael, you had something?
Yeah, so Jeff, I sent you a track to play,
and you're probably thinking, oh, great, here's another Hanford's Hobbies,
Hanford's Hobbies, because when is he going to drop this thing?
Well, no, it's not a Hanford's Hobby.
So today I came across a song in my Spotify suggested.
It's a song by Margot, I don't know how to pronounce this, Geryon.
I think she's from like the 70s, late 60s, 70s.
And I heard this song and I said, Tim, if you ever want to do a segment on this show
or a TV show where you are traveling around, maybe it sounds like maybe it should be on
a BBC show, this show, I'm thinking.
This would be a good theme for it.
If I want to do a travel show on the BBC.
Or a travel segment on here.
It just hit me and said, this is what Tim could probably use.
Great.
I have been looking.
I like that.
Nice.
I woke up in the morning and there was Timothy gone.
He didn't give me warning.
Oh, where has Timothy gone?
Where is Tim anyway?
I don't want him anyway.
I just want to know anyway, where has Timothy gone? So, you know, I can see this, the credits going,
and it's you sort of looking out over old, like, Irish, you know, landscape
and kind of like, oh, this week he's up in Ireland drinking at pubs.
A long, slow zoom into, like, a flock of sheep,
and then, like, Tim's in there somewhere.
I can also imagine like a
whole different series that's just like Jessica back
home alone, wondering that
about me. That is
so funny that it says, I don't want him here, I just
want to know.
I like that she switched
up Timothy and Tim too.
That's what it was.
Just looking for Tim.
God, that's a good song. See? That's music. That's why I was. I was looking for Tim. Yeah. God, that's a good song.
See, that's music.
Yeah.
That's why I check in with the new, the weekly discovery every week on Spotify.
That's an old song, right?
Margo.
Margo.
Let me spell the last name for you.
Yeah.
G-U-R-Y-A-N.
Gurion?
Gurion.
Yes.
Damn.
You know, if I were the creator and writer of Euphoria, I'd be thinking,
eh, maybe the teens could listen to that.
What about this?
Oh, hey, I have a little booze news.
Oh.
Mike, I'm glad you didn't do Hanford's Hobbies today.
I think that kind of makes a little more space for my thing.
Yeah, I know.
Oh.
Classy.
It's time for Dutton's Delights.
Whoa.
Whoa.
Whoa. Oh, shit. Prestige
How did you get
Ms. Simpson to do it?
Oh, she owed me a favor
I did one of her things
Julian Klausner
I'm glad you brought up Prestige, Tim
That's sort of what we're going for here on Dutton's Delights
This is like a recurring segment Where I just talk about things in my life that i find delightful oh so it doesn't
have to be a hobby it could be like a song or a tv series you know so many hanford hobbies it's
well sort of a better execution of like a lot of other sort of segments you might like if you're
thinking of a segment that's sort of been a little bit off recently like this is more like the better version i envy you jeff because you have such an easy
alliteration dutton delight you know uh hanford uh happy place actually maybe it would have been
a good one but that's the only one i can think of yeah yeah but yeah dunson dunton's delights
yeah dunston's delights dunston checkston i check in on this one uh well this one i i
wanted to shine a light on something uh you're just a classic nice cherry garcia hey you've had
oh you said you were gonna come back to it oh yeah you know i feel like as long for as long
as i've known about this stuff i've just loved loved it. No, you've never simply tasted it.
You know what it is?
It's cherry ice cream with Bing cherries and chocolate chunks in it.
And I just wanted to talk a little bit about the genesis of it.
Mike, side note.
Yeah.
Jeff, don't listen to this.
I feel like he's, Jeff is biting your style, not just with the Hanford Hobbies, but like
choosing Cherry Garcia, which is like an style, not just with the Hanford hobbies, but like choosing Cherry Garcia,
which is like an ice cream flavor that you famously love.
And he's kind of.
A lot of people like, oh, we see where this goes.
I don't see where it goes.
Hey, Jeff.
Yeah.
Cherry Garcia.
I don't know.
Do you know why it's named Cherry Garcia?
I do.
Yeah, me too.
Do you want to tell our listener?
Contest.
Somebody or somebody mailed in the idea, right? In a suggestion box or something. Yeah, me too. Do you want to tell our listener? Contest. Or somebody mailed in the idea, right?
In a suggestion box or something?
Yeah, but it's named after Jerry Garcia was what I was going for.
Oh, yeah.
Yes, buddy.
Wow, yeah.
You know who's just a god on the guitar?
Just a fucking living legend.
Mike is actually liking this.
He's agreeing with Jeff.
I'm very tired today, as I said,
but I am enjoying this. What do you think of his solos, Jeff? You know, they're just like,
really from other, they're otherworldly. Yeah. Interesting. And I like the sound of them so much.
Okay. And, but, but Tim, you brought up a good point about the, the suggestion box, you know,
and a woman up in Maine said, Dear Ben and Jerry's,
we're great fans of The Grateful Dead
and we're great fans of your ice cream.
Why don't you make a cherry flavor
and call it Cherry Garcia?
You know it will sell
because dead paraphernalia always sells.
We're talking good business sense here.
Plus, it will be a real hoot for the fans.
Good business sense.
That's not very groovy.
Yeah, that isn't very groovy.
Well, I just thought it would be a nice little segue into announcing our new grateful dead inspired designs up on t
public what the very nice that's right sell sell sell baby you can get our grateful dead steely
skull head album covers now available that's a nice one okay this is great because because
me and mike are deadheads and
jeff you used to drag your feet but ever since dutton delights came out it seems like you know
wait i know what's good for the brand well didn't we say what you were gonna you were gonna have
like your own kind of like playmates that were duttons delightful wait what it was like you're
like no you're all like dolls or something and you'd come out
you there'd be like a burlesque theater and you'd come out and be like thanks for coming he's um
hope you enjoyed tuttings to like oh it's like um wait who's the dude um
cory feldman's angels that's yeah yeah yeah yeah all right i would do that. Hey, DMs are open if you want to be one of Duddy's Delightfuls.
Oh, Lord.
Gross.
Do not DM him.
Please.
Steer clear.
Save yourself.
This is going in an interesting direction.
Tim, can I talk to you just for a second? Yeah, yeah.
You don't want to listen to this.
Oh, sure.
I don't think we're going to be hearing much more of Dutton's Delights.
I mean, the guy's talking about ice cream.
It's not very exciting.
And he's basically just using it as an advertisement. I think
the audience is going to see through that as a ploy.
I don't know, though. But Jeff, he seems like
he's kind of on a higher plane, a little more enlightened
about jam band and music.
He kind of, for once, is
sharing the groove a little bit. Sure, he can talk
the talk, but you remember we were going to go to Fish. He didn't
even want to step foot in New York State.
That's true. I'm starting to wonder if Jeff didn't even want to step foot in New York State. That's true.
I'm starting to wonder if Jeff has even ever listened to Cornell 77.
I doubt it.
He couldn't handle it. Let's continue on with the show.
Hey, I'm back.
Are you guys good?
Yeah, we're good, baby.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jeff, what do you think of, what's your favorite Scarlet Fire, huh?
Oh.
Come on, Jeff. what's your favorite scarlet fire huh oh come on jeff you told me a thousand times 91 yeah yeah uh baltimore maryland uh it's spring 75 they didn't plan baltimore you go hey did you know this um you know what else was in a suggestion
box suggestion to Ben and Jerry
was cookie dough
the original cookie dough ice cream
so the idea was by
an anonymous person
and then Ben and Jerry made it and it was hit
and now every company makes it
and they don't know whose idea that was
it probably was Jerry Garcia
he was wandering through Vermont
with the munchies
he was like ooh I got an idea.
Wrote it down.
That's crazy. Also,
eating normal sugar cookie
dough, people say they warn
you about the egg, right?
But for whatever reason, it's okay
in ice cream? I don't think
there's raw egg in there. Oh, that makes sense.
There you go. Okay.
Wrap it up. Well, that makes sense. There you go. Okay. Wrap it up.
Well, that's it for Booze News.
Oh.
Wrapped.
Jeff, just so you know,
when we do, you know,
a segment within Booze News,
we like to wrap that up first
and then wrap up Booze News.
Oh.
You know, I'll take that
into consideration, Mike.
So Dutton's Delights is still open right now. Shit. know, I'll take that into consideration, Mike. I think so.
Dutton's Delights is still open right now.
Shit.
Well, I don't really have a closing theme.
Well, it'll stay open until the end of the episode, I guess.
Until the end of time.
All right.
We're still in it.
We're still in it.
All right.
Well, I hope the drink of the day is a Dutton's Delight because it is called The Horse's Neck.
Oh.
We're here. Can you think of a thing in the world less appetizing than a horse's neck?
A horse's ass.
Bingo.
That's the answer you were looking for.
Yeah, but that's, I couldn't think of anything worse.
The horse's neck.
This is a pretty simple, a very simple drink.
And it's got a nice little history to it, dating back to the 1890s.
Oh, this is an IBA drink, by the way.
Hell yeah.
But not an old, it's not a, what's the old one called?
It's not an unforgettable?
It's not an unforgettable.
It's a contemporary classic.
But not a new era.
Not a new era.
That makes sense.
But it was made in the 1890s.
Well, let me back up.
I'll just read the Wikipedia history because it's so short.
Dating back to the 1890s, it was a non-alcoholic mixture of ginger ale, ice, and lemon peel.
By the 1910s, brandy or bourbon would be added for a horse's neck with a kick.
You see what happens?
So you put the alcohol, that's it.
Or a stiff horse's neck.
The non-alcoholic version was still served in upstate New York in the late 50s and early 60s,
but eventually it was phased out.
This thing's phased out?
Well, upstate New Yorkers, we kind of phased it out.
We wanted to just phase that out.
The non-alcoholic one, Jeff, was phased out.
Yeah, because we party up there in the Hudson Valley, baby.
Tonight, we're going to phase it back in.
Let me see.
There was something else.
Oh, it can often be regarded as a derby drink.
Okay.
Not too bad. It's a veryby drink. Okay. Not too bad.
It's a very refreshing drink.
I think we're going to get refreshed.
People also do it that you can switch.
This is one of those drinks.
Let me tell you what's in it first so I can kind of talk about.
Very simple to make.
40 milliliters cognac.
Okay.
One 20 milliliters ginger ale.
Ooh.
Canada dry
whatever you got
dash of Angostura bitters optional
Angostura? Angostura
okay not Peychaud's
yeah not Peychaud's
I also have aromatic bitters
I think that's a different one right
let me check the notes here
Angostura's are aromatic
it's our Trinidad
but not all aromatics are Angostura?
Yeah, I guess so.
Ah.
I've found what's interesting.
Mike, did it say cognac or brandy?
Cognac?
Cognac.
Oh, okay.
And cognac is brandy, so that's not a big deal.
But I was interested in the fact that it says ginger ale.
It does not say ginger beer.
So usually- Right. I was interested in the fact that it says ginger ale. It does not say ginger beer.
So usually for drinks on this pod,
I'm running around getting some Bundaberg or some reeds.
Fever tree.
Yeah, fever tree.
But this is nice.
It's coming out of the gun at the bar.
Canada Dry. We're talking about it's like a whiskey ginger,
except it's cognac.
So it's going to taste like a fancy whiskey ginger.
But I guess a highball version, right? Because you wouldn't really have, a whiskey ginger except it's cognac so it's going to taste like a fancy whiskey ginger but but i
guess that's a high ball version right because you wouldn't really have if you order a whiskey ginger
they they don't really normally always give you a high ball do they right i mean this look the the
proportions are more like a cuba libre or something yeah you know it's like you're using a lot of soda
well that's what's what's funny it's just a regular horse's neck without it being, you know, when it's the horse's neck with a kick,
which is what we're going to drink tonight,
would just be ginger ale and like a lemon twist.
That's like, what is that?
That's a different drink.
That's a garnish.
When you guys explain the pod to people,
do people ever say, oh, are there enough drinks out there like that's that's
a thing that um my dad said and many people have been like what happens when you run out and we're
not going to run out because in this community if you put a lemon peel in a ginger ale they
fucking name it yeah that's a horse's neck and i'm sure if you put a lime peel instead of a lemon
peel they're like you know that's a good horse's neck down under.
Green style.
Yeah, yeah.
Green style-ies.
Green style-ies.
Whoa.
Oh, let me tell you how to make this thing before.
You know, this isn't one of those drinks where you just set the things up on the counter
and drink one at a time.
You got to mix them together.
So the method, pour cognac and ginger ale directly into a highball glass with ice cubes,
Pour cognac and ginger ale directly into a highball glass with ice cubes.
Jeff, stir gently.
If preferred, add dashes of Angostura bitter.
Garnish?
Well, this is a garnish with a rind of one lemon spiral.
So if you see pictures of this, you'll see a pretty long lemon spiral going, you know, just kind of swirling down into the drink not just like a
little uh you know inch popped on the side i forgot about that now how would a guy like me
do that with a knife i'll tell you jay do you have a peel you don't have a peeler jeff no no no this
is a different kind of a thing you here's what you do you get the spiral happens because you
you wrap it around a straw or the,
or the,
the long shaft of a spoon or something.
And you,
and you twist,
you pull it tight and then it kind of takes that shape.
I saw a YouTube tutorial about this,
but you do have to peel a nice long skinny rind.
Yeah.
And you've got to kind of wrap,
you got to gogellan style and wrap
circumnavigate the equator and just spin that motherfucker yeah uh this is well this is the
other thing i looked uh it gets its name horse's neck from the this is one article said the uh
you know big long orange or lime why do i keep saying orange and lime big long lemon peel
is to meant to look like a horse's neck now i can't think of well i can think of one other
animal in the yeah why not a giraffe bingo this drink is all is fucked up beyond all recognition
from the get-go so i don't uh i don't know what's going to go on with this, but Ian Fleming,
he wrote the Bond books. He put
this drink in
a couple times, so that's something to do.
Oh. He said it's a real drunkard's
drink. Oh.
It's good for the pod.
Good content, probably. Good for the pod and good for
the pander.
I'm excited. I've not
had, I had not heard like like high balls and i'm just
realizing now you mentioned horse horses and and it was a possible derby drink do you think that's
why this episode early on it was sort of established that this episode is um equine stylies
oh who brought that up was that part of the came up during the intro yeah it was like one
of the first things that somebody said definitely came up at one yeah yeah equine style so it's
because of the horse horse leg drink got it right i have a segment coming up about um bruce
springsteen's daughter awesome good good good uh silver medalist in equestrian. And I have a segment coming up about the Star of the Weird Owl story play he did.
Uh-huh.
Star of the Weird Owl story play he did.
Who's starring in that, Wolf, in that movie?
He was the boy who lived.
Come to die.
Timothy?
We're talking. Well, let's see if Tim can get this guy.
He had a friend, a ginger friend who came from a ginger family.
We're talking HP.
None of this is doing anything for me.
All right, we'll get it.
We'll get it.
When we come back.
When we come back, we're going to get Tim to figure this out.
I'm going to Google it.
Folks, we'll see you on the other side. Are we back?
We back?
I think so.
We're back.
We're back.
And we're back with horse's necks.
Necks in hand.
Well, let's just get into the sips, huh?
Oh, Tim, did you ever figure out who the man of the moment is?
I've forgotten all about this.
What were we talking about?
It took me so long to make my lemon spiral.
Daniel Radcliffe was in Echus.
What?
Echus.
Harry Potter, you fool. I know who Harry Potter is. What's Echus. What? Echus. Harry Potter, you fool.
I know he's playing weird Al.
I know who Harry Potter is.
What's Echus?
A horse movie?
A play.
Oh, a play.
Yeah, I think it's Echus, but yeah.
Swiss Army Man?
Oh, great.
It got...
I can't be pronouncing shit wrong on the pod.
People jump all over me.
It got noticed because...
Oh, like Valens?
Yeah, he was nude in it.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. He got nude., he was nude in it. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yes.
He got nude.
I was actually nude in the bath the other day.
Hmm.
Interesting.
All right.
Sips.
Ringy ding.
Oh, it looks like a nice refreshing tea, doesn't it?
Ooh, that is refreshing.
Oh!
Oh!
Oh! Oh!
Oh!
I'll tell you this much.
Let's be honest, boys.
Cognac kicks whiskey's ass, huh?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
It does a little bit.
It's a warmer, vaniller.
Who wants a whiskey ginger when you can have this?
It's warmth.
And I'm doing a grand marnier over
here so it's got a little of the orange in it oh michael you pretty dog i can only imagine
it's good um it's good i had a tough time with this lemon peel i it was too thick yeah mine too
and then like i went back like cut in half and it's just kind of a mess, but still getting the lemon flavor.
I wrapped mine around the straw, but then I had forgotten to express it.
Oh, you mustn't.
Mike, isn't Grand Marnier
is very sweet, though, right?
Aren't you having a real sweet experience over there?
Man, on this podcast,
I'm always having a sweet experience.
Oh, okay. That's a very good point.
I rescind my comment.
You know, I haven't, yes, it must be,
I haven't tasted it by itself in a while,
but it must be sweet because when you unscrew it,
it's like there's like sugars like built up.
It's like Cointreau.
It's like Cointreau.
So in my mind, in my memory,
it's more of an orange liqueur than it is a cognac.
It's like a little bit of cognac in with an orange liqueur.
But hey, I don't doubt that your drink is delicious.
You do you.
I'm not one of these people that says, you know, Hanford makes the drinks wrong.
I'm going to shit all over him for it.
I'm going to drag him.
I'm going to drag his ass.
You're not one of those many, many people.
Most people, quite frankly.
Oh my God, this drink is so good.
This is good.
I thought to myself leading into this, I will not like this drink is so good. This is good. I
thought to myself, leading into this,
I will not like this. You know what's funny, too?
I like the bitters. How many dashes of Angus
Sword did you guys do? Oh, I didn't do bitters.
Well, you didn't take the bitter option.
It's optional. It is optional.
I'm going to add it. It's like the ice in a Russian
root, Jeff. But now I'm going to add, add.
Tim, did you do the bitters?
I think you should hold true to the option you've chosen.
You followed your heart. I've made my bed.
Maybe for the, uh,
for round two you can.
There he goes. Well, Mike, I'll tell you this.
Well, Jeff's gone. I was looking around. I said,
I don't have any Angus store bitters left.
This is bad.
Bad, man.
I rifle through my drawers
and I find a little spritz bottle
a slim like we've talked about before those little perfume samplers with a
wait what are you spritzing angostura oh that's good because um yesterday the other day i ruined a
old-fashioned because i popped the top off my angostura you know for making trinidad sours
oh yeah to make a classic old-fashioned and just dumped a bunch in
there. Ruined.
Oh, you went full Trinidad. Ruined.
I said, I wish I had a spritz.
I wish I could just spritz. Oh, you want a little
Now this is going to just bring dimension
to the whole drink, I think.
I'm almost finished with mine.
This topples down
the esophagus, doesn't it?
It sure does.
Watch out for the epiglottis, though.
I did kind of a small, it's a highball glass, but it's much smaller.
It's like a juice glass, kind of.
Yeah, and I had to make a drink and a half fill the glass here.
I read somewhere that Canada Dry doesn't actually have ginger in it.
Huh?
Who said that,eps i saw it when i was googling we learned the difference between ginger beer and ginger ale is that yeah ginger beer is brewed yeah brewed brewed and ginger
ginger ale is just soda that's flavored ginger and you're allowed to do whatever you want so
technically man that is better with the bitters take the bitter option slop heads absolutely bitter
god this is a really good drink fuck man and like and drinkable and like in real life you know you're
not gonna you're not it's not one of those ones that you're timid to recommend it's like this is
easy to make anyone on earth would love it.
Anyone in their right mind.
Crushable.
Sessionable. Very crushable.
Even someone who's sober and in recovery and shouldn't really be drinking,
they're going to love this.
So just give it to them.
Oh, yeah.
They should try this.
If they want to get back on the wagon or off the wagon.
On, off.
I sound like Steinfeld.
Speaking of Steinfeld,
I have been watching Like from episode one on
And I'm in season two now
Do you remember an episode
Where Kramer has like
He puts moose in his hair
And it's like he's got a nice like parted haircut
Yes
It's like there's no reason for it really
It doesn't like weave its way through a story
Or anything
It's not the ones where the shower heads
doesn't get the shower pressure.
Right, it's not that one.
It's season two.
Well, the episode after that,
he has his more signature style hair
with the waves in front that stick straight up.
And I'm thinking to myself,
they probably just did that storyline
to reset his hairstyle or something.
Or maybe they tried to do it and it didn't work.
And it was like, fuck, we got to write something real quick to explain why this guy's hair looks like this.
Because it's really...
Wait, what was this story with?
Then what did they do?
I can't remember because I watched so many in a row.
But it really had nothing to do with anything in the story.
But then what was in the next one?
The next one was just that Kramer's hair was different.
It's like his classic hair.
It was like his classic hair.
And before it, it was kind of frizzy,
but not like the way it was on for the rest of time.
Wow.
Maybe we should change our hair.
Interesting.
But we have to reset with a moose.
Now, Mike mike this isn't
the first time you've watched seinfeld from the beginning if i remember i don't think i've watched
it from maybe not from the beginning beginning very beginning yeah but i remember when you were
at one point you were watching a bunch uh sequentially back in our los filas boulevard
home and i remember picking up on way more callbacky stuff like there there are more
seasonarchy type jokes going on that you don't catch when you watch it on UPN and right right
right right like there are tons of little callbacks and things were like oh yeah there's
like a stretch of three four episodes where this sort of thing is happening in the background yeah
yeah yeah it's funny um it is funny I I mean, I love stuff like when Jerry, when he calls George Biff.
That's like a Death of a Salesman reference.
And it's like, that's not even ever, he does that like three times spaced out.
It's just for him.
It's so funny.
It's really weird in the early season one stuff.
Like Kramer talks about doing the pizza place,
like the build your own pizza thing.
Like they do rehash, not even just like jokes,
but like almost like storylines.
Season one just seemed like,
we're trying this show out
and then we're totally resetting,
but still kind of using some of the old stuff.
I love how Kramer mentions his friend
bob saccomano that name comes up a lot and it's you know what's so great is when
throughout the series when george is lying he says his name is art vandele and he's an architect
so then in the um puerto rican day parade episode when they each lie and say that they're looking at buying a building,
but it's open house and they just want to use the bathroom and they separately go in there.
But like when Kramer bumps into George, they know each other's aliases. So Kramer's like,
Mr. Vandelay. And then George is like, Dr. Van Nostrand. They've lied enough in front of each
other. It is so funny when you get to those later seasons, how much of it's just like, Van Nostrand? They've lied enough in front of each other?
It is so funny when you get to those later seasons, how much
of it's just like
they are so
know what the jokes, like how the jokes
are going to hit. So they say these things
and they're a little bit like
smirking at themselves.
A little muggy.
This is what I'm doing. And wait for the laugh type of thing.
It was a fantastic show. uh honestly a show about nothing i i could see that mike
if you say so remember we had a show we had a joke at the sloppy or the birthday boy's house
where we were going to pitch a show in like the flapper area era uh it's a flapper show about nothing it's like the most specific
thing possible i think that it was because they're like we should do a flapper show and
we're like yeah but like what is it what do they do it's a show about nothing it's a flapper show
about nothing that's what we need um well this is kind of a pretty equine episode we're having so far so i went to it reminded me
of um uh yeah um fucking did i talk about this here or maybe i blabbed about it with gabrus or
something but i went to santa anita racetrack recently it's been on the ponies betting on the
ponies and you know we three guys are me boys let's go to a bar and it's
fun to get drunk but it's extra fun it's extra fun to go to a place that has um
kind of a built-in activity if you go to a party and there's like a conversation piece or a drink
of the night or you you go to a bar and they get the shuffleboard or whatever it's fun it's fun to
have stuff to do and And I really felt like,
especially now that I think that Santa Anita has ironed out their thing
where all the horses were dying.
They like had 30 horses die in a row.
And I mean,
that was Elmer glue with their stock skyrocketing.
Let me tell you that.
But it was because I think that they were it was like a
rainy year where like the track was soft but then also those horses have human growth hormone or
something or not human equine growth or hgh but a different age it's horse growth hormone
it's hgh and then parentheses not the h different age if you think that that age stands for human you got another thing coming bitch
unless you're a reading horse um no i was just saying that we should go we should go
to more horse races because it's the perfect if you're drunk i was there and it was like
there's like eight races in a day right so it's like from noon to four or something and they're
approximately every half hour so it's kind of the perfect amount of time to like have a round of
drinks and you get your bet ready and then you watch the race and then that after that you're
like oh that race okay i'm gonna place my next bet and i'm gonna get some food and you get some
food and then you and the race happens and you're like i'm gonna get another round of drinks maybe
place another bet then as you're going you're forgetting to place your bet happens and you're like, I'm going to get another round of drinks. Maybe place another bet. Then as you're going, you're forgetting to place your bet.
You're going for a walk.
Things, the wheels are coming off of the day a little bit, but there's this uniting thing,
which is every half hour, there's another race, you know?
And you're accidentally betting on horses that will not even show.
I lost $200 and I had told myself I was only going to
bet with $100, but most importantly
I was getting drunk
in a fun fashion.
Well, that's good. Nice, Tim.
David Busters, but for adults.
Yeah.
Man.
David Busters.
David Busters.
David Buster.
Dave Busters. David Busters. David Buster. Dave Buster.
The new drug.
You guys been to Dave and Buster's?
Yeah, love it.
Yes.
I like it too, but it feels a little kid casino to me, rather than like an arcade.
Kid casino sounds pretty fun.
That should be your rap name, Jeff. Hey, kid casino. From bar of cave to kid casino. Kid casino. sounds pretty fun. That should be your rap name, Jeff.
Hey, Kid Casino.
From Barb Cave to Kid Casino.
Kid Casino.
Hey, hey.
Hey, hey.
What's up?
Actually, he stole that from Babu Frick.
Yeah.
He can do anything he wants.
Mike, were you there when we went there for free with Comedy Bang Bang?
Yeah.
That was a great thing where it was like Dave and Busters was reaching out to TV writers rooms and saying, hey, TV writers, come on by.
We'll give you a free dinner and we'll give you free tokens and free drinks all night long.
And we're like, sure, we'll do that.
So the Comedy Bang Bang room, IFC show TV writers room went and they sat us in a banquet hall with the the writers room from fresh
off the boat and uh we all sat there together and we ate potato skins and nacho powers and
bullshit it's just like appetizer platter appetizer junk but then a representative came in and was
like hey so hope you enjoyed the food here's all your tokens go have fun free drink tickets right
here and just keep us in mind for shooting locations or if you want to mention us in your show uh go for
it and so we were kind of like oh we were being like pitched this is like a timeshare yeah kind
of thing and then it was the easiest pitch ever it was like it was it was not a hard pitch but
no then the next morning first thing next morning i'm writing a cold open for Comedy Bang Bang,
and I put interior Dave & Buster's.
It works on me.
And Scott cut it.
He was like, no.
Also, it's like, that's probably very expensive to go shoot at Dave & Buster's.
I'll foot the bill.
I don't care.
Oh, shit.
That was one of those things.
I went, I put my first token in one of those big wheel things,
and you just slam down on the button, and it stops.
And wherever it stops, you get that amount of tokens that it stops on, or tickets.
It stopped on 1,000.
I'm sitting there, and 1,000 tickets are pouring out of the thing.
Everyone else was somewhere else.
It wasn't a very busy night, so I'm just standing there by myself.
Like, yay! You you stand there for nine
minutes? A thousand tickets coming out.
What did you buy with your winnings?
What did I buy? I think I
I think Mitch's birthday was coming up
and I bought him like a R2D2
plushie or something.
He's more of a BB-8 guy.
Well, yeah. Maybe it was BB-8.
I don't know. We to we still got to get that
tim robinson sent us that picture of the guitar like at the top of the wall david buster's electric
guitar yeah someday we'll get that fucker well it's so funny like with with the amount of tickets
i had i could either get some little like plush doll thing or a billion pieces of uh candy like Pieces of candy. Like there was either, like the next level up is so much.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Makes you stink.
Hey, we should go, with all these horse necks going down, we should do a Kentucky Derby episode for a blowout.
Yeah.
When that comes around.
Why didn't we do that already?
I guess we sorted it in Mint Julep, right?
Mint Julep was like episode three of our show
and I did a whole Kentucky Derby quiz,
but it wasn't around that time of year, right?
Yeah, and we didn't even know
what the fuck we were doing back in episode three.
I did.
I was fully formed right out the gate.
I was like one of those people.
You're like, where does that talent come from?
Wow, that voice is just fully formed upon arrival.
That cookie monster.
I say we do the blowout.
We do a blowout, we do the blowout.
We do a blowout, a Kentucky Derby blowout.
Unless you're a Patron, you'd have no idea what we're talking about.
So you got to get on the Patron.
Me and my high school friends were talking about going to Louisville for a meetup.
Maybe I go and I'm one of the jockeys of the Derby.
I don't know.
You know, Tim, that Louisville thing reminds me of an old riddle,
and the riddle is such.
How does one pronounce the capital of Kentucky?
Louisville, Lawville, or Louisville?
Lawville.
Jeff?
I want to say it's like option D, Louisville.
You're both wrong.
It's Frankfurt.
Oh!
It's a classic trick riddle, and I love them.
And I got a hundred of them.
Can we hear one more?
Why are we barely running out?
We barely have time for this conversation.
He watches the clock.
He watches the clock.
Hey, speaking of the clock. I just don't have any more.
Hey, why don't we
take a quick break
we'll come back
with our final thoughts
on this
horse's neck
I love that
me too
folks
we'll be right back
And we're back with our final thoughts on the horse's neck.
For me, it's an order again.
But, Tim, I know you said it's better than a whiskey ginger.
I don't know that it is, my man.
Oh, no, Jeff, it actually is.
That's what I'm saying.
It is.
That's the boy.
Tim, this will be a point of contention between us.
Fuck.
I didn't want a point of contention.
This, for me, I walked into this room with a chip on my shoulder.
I said, this is going to be bad.
I'm not into this.
And guess what?
It is in order again.
And guess what?
I will make it again, probably.
Not even just in order again. This is when I will make it home.
For guests.
I think your cognac is better used
in a cognac old fashioned.
Better used?
That's a different drink. I'm saying
this, Jay. And you can quote me on
this. Okay.
You little son of a bitch.
Every drink
on earth that has whiskey should and shall be swapped for cognac
whiskey coke cognac coke huh whiskey on the rocks cognac on the rocks shot of whiskey shots
cognac it's better it does the same job better it's more elegant and it doesn't uh
it's a better word cognac what are you drinking a cognac how about you cognac this is not just
an order again it's a make all the time it's a keep keep a 12 pack of soda in your fridge
a bottle of crevasse or henny and a little Angostura.
You're in business, baby.
Skip the lemon peel.
I don't give a fuck.
It's great with it, but you don't need it.
Bartender, three conies for the sloppy boy.
Three coners.
Three coners.
You got to be careful because if you say coney in Detroit, they're giving you a hot dog, dude.
You better watch out.
Yeah, and if you say coner at a fish show or a dead show, they're going to give you a fat dog dude you better watch out yeah and if you say coner at a uh fish show or
dead show they're gonna give you a fat fucking rolled coner yeah you say coner to madonna she's
like my favorite bra style sure and if you're here in brooklyn you say you jump in a cab and
say take me to coney meaning you cognac bar they take you to the fucking coney island so wait a
second in brooklyn if you said take me to cononey, they wouldn't know you mean a Cognac bar?
No, you have to say it.
I want to go to a Cognac bar.
Well, what's it called?
What's the address?
Well, I don't know.
There isn't one.
Just take me to a bar.
Take me to a bar.
You're not going to swap Cognac for whiskey, are you?
I hear cool people are doing that.
And then some sticks in the muds are not.
Sticky in mud. mud god this is a pretty
equine episode though yeah it ended up being yeah clip clop bye folks we're heading off into the
sunset is that oh no let me do the sign off Okay but But I thought we were You know
On a horse
Oh yeah
You should put that in
When you're giving the
When you're doing the
Sign off
Hey
If I can find it for free
I will
Folks
If you like
Whiskey more than cognac
Here's what I want you to do
Go look in the mirror And realize that you are Looking at a fool Folks, if you like whiskey more than cognac, here's what I want you to do.
Go look in the mirror and realize that you are looking at a fool.
A Coney Barone.
No way.
No way.
What if I just did a big whole thing?
Is this going to be like a thing between you two now?
That's what I meant.
Don't tell the listeners, but I'm kind of trying to turn it into a hashtag.
Manufactured beef. Yeah.
It could actually be funny.
You know that like when fucking stupid news outlets that are bad will be like,
after SNL,
they'll be like,
Kate McKinnon breaks character to say she's tired of COVID.
And then you watch the bit and you're like,
she didn't break character.
She's doing a comedy bit,
you know,
like you're like, she didn't break character. She's doing a comedy bit. You know, like you're...
But I think that those places could maybe
say, like, Tim and
Jeff have awful
beef.
Awful beef sounds like my lunch.
Jesus Christ. Just awful.
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