The WAN Show - Should we Make Our Own OnlyFans Competitor? - WAN Show August 20, 2021

Episode Date: August 23, 2021

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Graphics. That's right. We've got a bunch of new information for you. Also, OnlyFans hurts itself in its confusion by banning sexually explicit content starting in October. How did this happen? We're going to dig into it and we're going to talk about some potential solutions for users and creators who are going to miss that, well, OnlyFans being what it actually is. What else we got today? You stole one of mine, but Halo Infinite won't ship with co-op,

massive disappointment, or Forge, large but not quite as large disappointment absolutely ridiculous that's actually like not not stoked on the non-co-op not gonna lie i've been look i feel like i am constantly constantly searching for co-op games and halo has except for I think once been very consistent about having co-op and then just nope um also uh there's a gigabyte response but I don't know how long that's going to take I don't think that's it's pretty funny actually gigabytes responded in their previous response because they've already responded once I don't think so yeah but it's just funny because they did it again we'll talk about it again. All right.

Yeah. Let's roll that intro. Yeah. All of Low Plane Chat is already talking about only fans well yeah obviously it's like insane the show is brought to you today by buildredux.com elgato featuring their face cam and c sonic all right ladies and gentlemen i think you guys want us to talk about the OnlyFans situation. So why don't we jump right into that in a massive shock? OK, you know what? Hold on a second.

Before we talk about it, I am going to go to OnlyFans.com. I'm going to OnlyFans.com. I'm not going to share my screen because I don't want to end up getting my... I'm going to share my screen because i don't want to i don't want to end up you know getting my twitch okay hold on a second there's an there's an sms code i we do have an account as you guys may or may not know uh we had our own only fans for a short period of time i'm gonna go see if it was sent to the number that is a number that I can access. Is this a new one? Okay, yeah, I think I got it. Okay, verify code.

Okay, now only if... Oh, wrong code. Oh, shoot, it didn't... Oh, since when does copy paste not work out of TeamViewer? TeamViewer called at seven this morning. Seven o'clock in the morning this morning. And what did they want to know, Vaughn? They wanted to know why we don't subscribe to their subscription. It was at 7.30 in the morning.

They wanted to know if we're still using their service. And hold on. They wanted to know if we're still using their service and if we want their subscription-based service instead of the one-time one that we bought. No, I want the one-time one. My answer to them was... Well, I didn't answer them because my wife picked up the phone.

But my answer would have been... F*** off because I've told you guys not to f***ing contact me about this. If I wanted a subscription based team viewer, I would buy a subscription based team viewer. I bought the one-time team viewer because that's what I think team viewer is worth. A one-time fee. I paid them like seven grand or something like that for the number of seats that we have. It's perfect. It's exactly what we need and I never want anything else stop talking to me yeah what are you looking up so i'm trying to i'm actually kind of trying to figure out like how only okay so all right right right so only

fans is um theory i guess is that they are not strictly a pornographic website, right? Because when OnlyFans was founded by, if I recall correctly, an adult content mogul, when OnlyFans was founded, it was not necessarily targeting just adult content. But what I'm trying to figure out right now is how to even navigate this website okay i am screen sharing now if i go to home it's just is it just my home um i i don't honestly speaking know how to use this website um what are you trying to find anyways what are you going i'm trying to demonstrate that only fans is going to be fine without sexually explicit content luke oh i want to try to find not sexually explicit content on only fans and i can't even i honestly speaking i

cannot even figure out how to use well do they even have discoverability you'd have to go from a content creator that is that is not based on sexually explicit things and get to their page that way right how would i find one of those uh i mean you'd have to i think find their twitter or their youtube video or whatever it is that leads you there so i don't think there's discoverability forget it then forget it starting in october OnlyFans will not allow creators to post material with sexually explicit content. Nude photos and videos that comply with OnlyFans policies are still allowed and OnlyFans will provide more guidance on those new policies at a later date. The company made a statement explaining the decision that basically said, this is is a quote effective 1st of

october 2021 so there's not even a ton of notice on this that's less than two months only fans will prohibit the posting of any content containing sexually explicit conduct in order to ensure the long-term sustainability of the platform and to continue to host an inclusive community of creators and fans we must evolve our content guidelines creators will continue to host an inclusive community of creators and fans, we must evolve our content guidelines. Creators will continue to be allowed to post content containing nudity as long as it is consistent with our acceptable use policy. These changes are to comply with the requests of our banking partners and payout providers. We will be sharing more details in the coming days,

and we will actively support and guide our creators through this change in content guidelines. Now, here's something that I am kind of wondering about. I don't see anything about this in our notes here. Oh, no, I do. So, creators on OnlyFans have earned more than $4.5 billion over the past five years. Billion! They had $2 billion in sales last year when they're on pace to generate more than double that this year. They keep 20% of that sales figure. That is $400 million in revenue. Have you ever used OnlyFans service? They could not possibly have more than a couple dozen developers. No offense, OnlyFans. A lot of that money is going to go towards, well, yeah, not as much as you think based on a few things,

but we can get into that in a moment. But a lot of it's going to go towards payment processors, infrastructure, stuff like that. But sorry, keep going. Sure. But in order to ensure the long-term sustainability of the platform, if I had... You'd kick off all your people.

If I had $400 dollars a year in net revenue um i think i i think i'd probably figure out how to be how to be sustainable uh without turning off the thing that makes my entire website tick um now there have been plenty of ads recently for non-adult content on OnlyFans. OFTV is an app that is a safer work alternative to the main site, free of sexually explicit content and launched last week. Now, back talking about their revenue, they have more than 130 million users paying monthly fees. That is an utterly mind blowing number. And many sex workers

are claiming that this is their primary source of income and that they will be temporarily out of work while searching for a new platform. Anthony left a note in here, a sex worker that I've been in contact with since the April Fool's video says they're moving to just for fans, which is specifically run as an adult site. It's significantly smaller, so it'll be a major loss in income while the platform comes up to speed. But it's pretty obvious that this is not going to be a unique story, and there's going to be a huge amount of momentum shifting away from OnlyFans and towards alternatives like Just For Fans. Now, with that said, can we think of any examples of sites or services that

have managed to pivot from being predominantly sexually explicit content to something else? Let's say Tumblr, for example. How'd that go, Luke? Did you use Tumblr? Do you use Tumblr these days? I have never used either of these platforms, which doesn't help. But we have quite a bit of numbers on the Tumblr change. And we know that not only was Tumblr already going down, which is quite different in this case, because OnlyFans was rocketing, going hockey stick, as Linus likes to say. But Tumblr was consistently dying when they made their change. And then just incredibly accelerated that decline. So pretty rough. A year after the ban in 2018, site visits

had dropped. Site visits had dropped by nearly a minute. What? Average monthly login page traffic by US visitors dropped by 49 average daily users dropped by 35 that's all for tumblr that's really rough honestly not as much as i had expected based on how people talked about what tumblr was uh but still pretty rough and you do have to consider that they were already on a decline so some of that drop was like to be expected um but that was a bit quite a bit sharper than than you would have expected from tumblr um there's there's some interesting stuff here they only fans specifically said these changes are to comply with the requests of our banking uh partners and payout providers

that's a little bit wider than than my understanding but there's a post i'm going to put it in the dock i was grabbing this right as we were getting ready and i didn't have time to get it in there um i will put it at the bottom of this so you can see it um there was a post back in april 15th of this year yeah that mastercard was making pretty big changes that will impact the entire adult entertainment industry. Yeah. And I think this is it. So the changes that are going to, that we're going to impact tube sites that included Pornhub, Xvideos, and fan sites, including OnlyFans, JustForFans, FanCentro, etc.

are this list. Enter, these are all requirements requirements you enter into a written agreement with any individual that is contributing content to the website this includes the individual's consent their identity and age seems like a good idea does seem like a decent amount of paperwork but that's probably already in place for only fans uh all persons depicted in content must give consent for the content to be distributed and downloaded. That, I doubt, was already a thing. Not impossible, but a decent amount of extra paperwork.

Age and identity of all persons depicted is required. Again, I doubt that was already a thing, but probably not impossible. A lot of paperwork again. Only verified users can be permitted to upload content. I believe that is a thing. That's already a thing on OnlyFans. It's actually a very onerous process to get verified. Yeah.

So I believe that is a thing. This is the big one. And I think this was the big problem one. A lot of these policies seem good. And honestly, in a lot of ways, so does this one. It just seems very difficult and extremely expensive. All content must be reviewed prior to publication or real time if it's live streamed. So you'd have to have someone sitting there watching the live stream. And no

content can violate the card brand, BRAM, business risk assessment and mitigation policies. I'm not 100% sure what those are. Other things include, that one's the big one. Other things include website must have a compliant process for reporting, review and removal of violating content, must have policies in place to make sure that the website cannot be used for human trafficking, seems like a good idea, provide monthly reports to the acquirer of flagged content and what was taken down. And no search terms or marketing partners can give the illusion that the content they are marketing will contain child exploitation materials or depictions of non-consensual activity. A lot of those seem good, just like things that maybe not all of them does only fans do um and the all content reviewed prior to publication or real time if it's live streamed thing sounds very expensive to do

and especially when your take is 20 and you have payment processor fees on top of that and infrastructure fees and on and on and on and on uh so yeah it doesn't sound impossible um but it's not like mastercard said you can't do this anymore uh they just put a really big wall in the way and what's problematic is bram or bram i'm not sure how they how they pronounce that uh here's mastercard's own this is an video, I think, or maybe it's not unlisted. I don't know. Whatever. It's here.

So here's the video that MasterCard put up. And what it is, is business risk assessment and mitigation. So this is about preserving the strength and value of the MasterCard brand. Basically, what they're saying is that you are now liable for making sure that any payment that you process using MasterCard, and you can't control what credit card your user is going to use to an extent, any payment is going to be for something that will not damage the strength and value of the MasterCard brand. And so they've got all these guidelines for what that means.

Now, I think it's very telling that the obvious solution to this isn't crypto. And that really, it kind of shows how far, even though crypto has gone kind of mainstream to the point where my not super techie family is talking about it over Thanksgiving dinner. The fact that no one seems to actually see it as a viable solution to this is kind of mind-blowing to me. Now let's talk about if the solutions are so simple, right? Now let's talk about if the solutions are so simple, right? Why doesn't someone like Floatplane just step in and fill this void? So why can't Floatplane just become the new home for sexually explicit creators?

I mean, we've even got a really wonderful mock-up here, Luke, of what that might look like. This was made by, I don't know if he wants to be named for this specific creation so i'll leave him off of it uh but this was made by one of the the flow plane guys um yeah the main reason right now and the reason why we will probably stay out of it long term is not that we have any issue with it is that we're late to be completely honest um like uh anthony had mentioned his friend or acquaintance or whoever that is um already has another platform that they're planning to go to yep these other platforms already exist um i even mentioned in my statement a few different companies including fan centro just for fans many vids loyal fans all this other kind of stuff they already exist there's also sorry my voice there's a montreal company that makes uh

montreal company named belessa that i believe already makes sex toys and already has a uh like our online explicit content streaming platform that is like really, really focused on being ethical and all that kind of stuff already posed in their mission statement. And they announced like, it was like today or yesterday. It was yesterday. They announced yesterday that they're going to be pushing that platform

towards like being the new OnlyFans. There's a lot of players in the space. It would take us a few months at least to hit the features that would be needed to provide a good experience for the users. And also, honestly, when we were looking through the like MasterCard demands, a lot of those things we were like, yeah, we should probably have this.

Like it kind of makes sense. Like, cause you want to make sure that you're not having exploitation and stuff on your platform, obviously. You want to make sure it's a safe space for people to do the things that they're going to do on it. And a lot of those things should happen. So that's a lot of features to dev

because those aren't the same features that you need on float plane. So it would take us quite a while to spin up and there's there's frankly honestly people that are probably going to be better at making that service than we are that are already on it so as of right now not in the works so is this the end for only fans i mean tumblr didn't die right i guess that's fair enough but is there a reason for me to use only fans instead of um something else at this point because i thought that was the whole idea is that patreon narrowed the scope of what they allowed in terms of sexually explicit content and then only fans took off and then maybe there was a platform in between them that i'm missing but now only fans

is doing the same thing and it's a consistent story and i haven't looked into all these different platforms that balalesa won. I checked out theirs and they do accept MasterCard. I'm not sure what payment platform they're using, but I do know that they accept MasterCard. So like, that's interesting. That being said, they're taking like one of their leading steps with this whole platform launch is that it's supposed to be ethical. So maybe they are just matching all of the guidelines. But linus said there are still concerns there so i'm not entirely sure um but yeah i think to get away from the governance of these these credit cards

and these payment processors you'd have you'd have to go you'd have to go crypto um like we were we were doing some like theory crafting on like okay if we did this how do we have to do it and ultimately we'd like want to meet the guidelines that mastercard laid out because they seemed actually like a good idea um but also we probably wouldn't want to use them because they've consistently shifted goalposts and like changed things and yes this time those were pretty reasonable ethical changes but you don't know what it's going to be in the future. And that like brand alignment thing is way too vague and just sounds like a gigantic trap. So you don't want to have to deal with those types of things.

And the only way to get away from that stuff right now, ultimately, is to go to crypto. Because if it was the payment processors, you could use a different payment processor. But when it's the cards as well, it's from the user side and the platform side. And that's crazy. And you don't know which brand is going to jump on next. Like maybe Amex decides to do all the same rules. So, okay, if you find a way to not take MasterCard, well, who knows how that's going to work long-term.

We've seen this happen to a lot of different platforms. So you'd have to decentralize. You'd have to go with something like crypto right um so i mean if none of these other platforms go to crypto maybe there is space for us to jump in but as of right now we have we have a lot of other things we're working on so yeah i had someone in the chat that's upset we're talking about this, exposing people who look up to us to this kind of website. Welcome to the internet. Yeah, welcome to the internet. I mean, Luke and I are not, we're not endorsing or not endorsing any of these platforms. We are just, this is technology. This is a huge moment for online technology, whether you like it or not.

The adult entertainment industry has been a driver for technology over the decades, actually, not the years. So that's what makes this newsworthy from our point of view. And the other side of that is that you can have your moral outrage over OnlyFans, and the answer is, okay, then don't use it. We got a super chat from someone named August. It says, I rely on my OnlyFans income to pay for cancer treatments. Can't work because of COVID slash cancer. I feel like my life is literally over and I'm terrified. You've got to understand that for a lot of people, sex work is

not sex work. It's just work. It's and you know, you can you can sort of you can have a moral sort of standpoint where you go, oh, but it's it's like worse or it's this or it's that or I don't know. You can draw your line wherever you you personally want to draw it. But that's the thing. That's that's you. That's That's your personal line. I mean, a sex worker might say, you know, I'm sorry, you lift heavy things all day for money. You are literally going to destroy your back for money. To them, the idea of taking off their clothes and snapping a picture, obviously, it's not that simple. Cultivating a fan base is as difficult on OnlyFans

as anywhere else. In fact, maybe even more so because it's paid. I'm just saying, you know, if you want to oversimplify these arguments, they could easily flip the script on you and say, you would legitimately destroy your body for money? I mean, I'm only taking pictures of it. I, yeah, so, you know, whatever, guys,

just remember that whatever your personal sort of comfort level is with these kinds of services, that's personal. Like, that's you. We're just talking about it from a technology standpoint. I guess that's pretty much it for us. I mean, yeah, we're not going to make a play for the space for a variety of reasons. You know, we just don't feel that we would have the tools in place in a timeframe that would make any sense to harbor these people, unfortunately. But the good news is that in our research, we managed to find a number of other platforms that hopefully will be successful in doing that

and to be clear i know next to nothing about them so if you're a creator on onlyfans i'm not endorsing any of these but there there are alternatives out there and you should probably check them out also uh yeah there's another one someone posted a chat about it's called av uh avn stars or something like that to be clear i'm not saying to go to these sites at all especially if you are for whatever reason not allowed to go to them but if you're a creator who is already in this space um you know i think it's time to do some shopping around find some discords to join where maybe you can talk to other people who have experiences both positive and negative to share about these platforms and the more of you band together to find one that seems to be a good fit the better the chances

that migration will happen faster and the users will will find you um because it might be a time to diversify as well yeah that's yeah that's not a bad point i mean there's nothing wrong with having you know youtube memberships um activated like we, as well as having a platform like Floatplane where you post behind the scenes and stuff like that. Nothing wrong with diversifying your revenue streams at all from just a strictly business standpoint. In the short term, something that has generally flown under the radar is if you cosplay while doing those things. Just a tip. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That tends to help a fair bit.

Callum says, personally, I feel this is very harmful to the sex work industry. It seems like every legitimate and relatively safe avenue for sex workers is being blocked left, right, and center. It should be allowed and not stigmatized. I mean, I think

there's a strong argument to be made for that. Unfortunately, I'm not in a position where I can change anything about it. All I can say is sex work is work. As much as we like to think that our approach would be a very good or potentially the best one, Ultimately, it's a big risk to spend many months developing new features and effectively a new platform. Obviously, we'd be able to copy out the vast majority of the work over. But it would be a pretty massive undertaking. And because we'd be really late, it would be a huge risk.

And there's platforms already out there and there's from like a i read a two paragraph thing on what that platform is um on a list of alternatives they there's some that seem pretty promising so hopefully those work out and we can just keep doing our thing all. Why don't we move on to our next topic for today? What's another big one? Ah, yes. Intel Arc. Intel Arc is coming.

Not to be confused with Intel Arc with a K. This is Arc with a C. And that is going to be Intel's branding for their new high-end graphics cards that they claim are going to be competing with NVIDIA and AMD. The first ARC GPUs will be based on the Intel Xe HPG architecture with a GPU codename of Alchemist. I like it. I like it. It's a good codename. It's a solid codename. It'll have support for all the features that modern AMD and NVIDIA GPUs possess, including real-time ray tracing, Intel's new AI-accelerated supersampling, or XCSS is what they're calling it apparently.

That'll compete with FidelityFX and DLSS, although FidelityFX is not an AI-accelerated supersampling feature. It's, oh man, shoot, what, Lanxos, or how do you pronounce that? It's, it's basically a different, it's basically a different kind of anti-aliasing. They did a 1080p to 4k super sampling demo, and it was performed in a slow moving environment without a lot of scenery changes. So it looks promising, but also I don't know, we'll see. So here, let's go ahead and pull this up. Whoopsie doodles. Let's go ahead and put that right there. Oh, yeah, right there. So does that look good? Yes. Yeah, looks really

good. Looks really sharp, not a lot of shimmering, um, or anything like that. But as we noted, it's really slow camera pans. Yeah. And those are really not the most challenging situations. Um, also part of the whole deal with AI or machine learning based features is that it's dependent on how well they work is dependent on the data set. Now, the way that it's supposed to work theoretically is that machine learning is supposed to be so powerful that it takes an enormous and diverse data set. Right. And it and then it's able to use that to extrapolate and infer some result, right? Here, I mean, what did Intel train this data set on? If they trained it entirely on what these scenes are supposed to look like, obviously

it would do a great job because it's not actually inferring anything. It just knows exactly what these objects are supposed to look like at a higher degree of fidelity. So there's a lot of potential. I'm not saying they cheated. I'm just saying that it would be very easy to cheat. So XCSS, their super sampling, will have two versions. XMX, which is designed specifically for Xe GPUs and performs slightly better, and DP4U, which uses common instructions on all modern GPUs and should work on more than just Intel GPUs and could even enable the feature for GPUs as far back as the GTX 1060 and 1050.

No word on actual performance metrics so far, but the Intel trailer shows Arc Silicon running Forza Horizon 4, Metro Exodus, Crisis Remastered, and other games. But again, no performance metrics whatsoever. Intel will be using TSMC's 6 nanometer process for Alchemist, meaning it will have to compete with the other companies manufacturing chips at TSMC in terms of allocation. So if you were hoping that Intel was going to be able to take their chip foundries and sort of put an end to GPU shortages once and for all, the answer is no. They're going to be constrained by all the same industry-wide factors as NVIDIA and AMD.

Still though, still though, having Intel come in as a scrappy startup it's kind of funny to talk about them in that context but in the in the gaming gpu space they will be having intel come in as a scrappy startup and try to try to hopefully buy some market share buy our love will be only it can only possibly be a good thing for consumers. And I am I'm extremely excited for the release, which I believe is slated for sometime in 2023. Don't quote me on that. It's actually been a little while since I've double checked what the rumors are. Let's check the let's check the roadmap here. Yep. Nope. Can't immediately find it.

We don't have anything confirmed anyway. It's all just rumors at this point, as far as I know. What else do we have? Ah, more Intel news. Intel's newest Lake has been detailed for the first time. Official specs have been announced for Alder Lake. This is the successor to 11th Gen Core Rocket Lake. It'll use the Intel 7 process.

So this was previously 10 nanometer enhanced SuperFin. Okay, fair enough. It's a heterogeneous big little architecture with the performance course featuring a 19% improvement in IPC over Rocket Lake. That is actually a pretty big deal and could put Intel ahead of AMD when it comes to gaming performance, though. Only time will tell. Efficiency cores are faster per thread than Skylake, which is pretty exciting. So even the low power, like crappy cores, are still pretty decent.

And there will be three physical designs. Eight performance plus eight efficiency for a total of 24 threads, six performance plus eight efficiency for a total of 20 threads, and two performance plus eight efficiency for a total of 12 threads. Only the performance cores are going to have Intel's hyper-threading where they can process two threads per core. They're going to run DDR5 at 4,800 megatransfers per second. Peak bandwidth increase of over 50% over the best DDR4 3200 memory. Cool!

PCI Express Gen 5 with up to 16 lanes coming from the CPU. And then we're going to have four Gen 4 lanes for storage. Intel has apparently determined that Gen 5 lanes are not necessary for storage. They're probably not wrong. AVX 512 support has been removed. That's probably where some of that better IPC is coming from. They're just not spending diarrhea on features that the vast majority of consumers will never touch. And the TDP of the top end skew will be 125 watts was this written by anthony it was because it's got five quotations on either side of 125 watts we've gotten to the point where intel amd and nvidia's tdp ratings of their chips simply cannot be

compared against each other without just objectively measuring them in the real world. Intel also detailed their Thread Director technology, an EMC inside the CPU. So this will monitor each thread and its individual metrics, so memory, load store power, etc., and provide data to the OS scheduler, which will decide where threads should go. That's pretty cool. So processes could initially run on

a P-Core unless they're full or unless they're on battery. It could tell the OS which threads are best to move in on a like a 30 microsecond scale. AVX prioritized for P-Cores. If there are more threads than available P-Cores, it will use efficiency cores before using hyper-threading because those like Skylake grade even like bad cores are still going to be pretty fast compared to putting two threads on the same CPU core and It can reduce the frequency if a thread is limited elsewhere in order to reduce power That's pretty cool That's like actually super cool um so per thread intel is expected

to be able to outpace amd's zen 3 processors but amd's core count advantage could keep zen 3 very relevant particularly at the high end although that assumes that amd does nothing in response and they almost certainly will I love Intel and AMD being at each other's throats this is the best thing ever actually no the best thing ever would be Nvidia and AMD being at each other's throats on GPU but right now it's basically Nvidia running the entire show and AMD being lucky to ship any GPUs and get any GPUs made. As far as I can tell, they're basically I saw a headline talking about how Nvidia prices seemed to have been falling

a bit, but AMD ones weren't. I think a big part of that is just down to how many GPUs AMD booked with TSMC. Kind of that simple. You know what? We should probably get through our sponsor spots the show is

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The Among Us team To put together a fun Fortnite mode that's kind of Similar to Among Us they could have done In game Skins and stuff like that Among Us costumes and stuff like that to the among us team if if epic is trying to what even this is a terrible terrible teaser trailer

i'm getting rid of this um if i mean if epic wants to shake that um image that they have of just being kind of terrible people who do the right thing sometimes. That's kind of what we... I think that's a good way of saying it. That's kind of what we were led to with the whole suing Apple and suing Google over their crappy App Store policies. If they're trying to shake that image, they got to stop doing stuff like this. It's not that you can't make...

I mean, that's art, right? It's not that you can't make... I mean, that's art, right? It's not that you can't make derivative works. You just... You have to give credit where credit's due. You have to at least acknowledge it. You have to work with someone like Inner Sloth, who Inner Sloth actually did end up calling them out. You can't just kind of quietly hope that nobody's gonna notice

and the other thing too is like people that are surprised i find that very interesting because fortnite literally exists because of this they just they copied pub g right like yeah being among us yeah it was a little bit dramatic when fortnite first pivoted from their like zombie survival game or whatever it even was at the start or something like that it was like a zombie survival building game where you had you like built during the day and i don't even remember single player at the beginning i think it was multi i don't know no one cared about that mode pretty much at all the game was like a failure and then they copied pub g and then it was gangbusters and now they're doing the same thing they're just copying among us like this is this is the same thing they did before people were pissed last time and they're pissed this time um yeah someone

at floatplane chat said epic is sus uh yeah yeah pretty much it's it's like it's exactly the same thing except the tasks and the emergencies are different uh but they're still tasks and emergencies and you're in first person instead of a top-down view even just the similarity of the map was kind of sus i think the kids say yeah kind of sus yeah and like yeah the map yeah i know among us has more than one map but i i feel like almost everyone plays a majority of their time on the first map and the first map is like i believe a spaceship and just from i haven't played it but just from watching the video i'm pretty sure you're on a spaceship. It's called Impostors. Yes, this terminology is possibly used in the old more tabletop or in-person versions of this type of game.

But Impostor is specifically a thing used in Among Us. Some people have pointed out like, oh, well, Among Us is a ripoff of those old board game style things. I strongly disagree. Among Us is very different. of those old board game style things. I strongly disagree. Among Us is very different. It's brought into a digital space. It includes the tasks. The killing of people is not done by pointing at them in a circle while everyone's like heads are down so they can't see.

It's done in a gamified sense. Like it's a very different take on that type of game. Yeah, like a mafia or werewolf secret hitler type i mean it's not like derivatives of this play style haven't existed for a long time it's that the imp the fortnite imposters thing is barely even a derivative it's essentially a refresh of tasks and emergencies which happens every time among us has a new map anyways so that's not weird and then they made it first person like there's there's no secret sauce here other than the

fortnite user base now how would you compare this to something like league of legends then coming in and basically you know ripping off dota just at that point in time dota was a warcraft 3 mod um i i there hasn't been a ton of mobas that i would see as like a ripoff of the original dota format since dota 2 came out um heroes of the storm is very different uh the new pokemon one i think it's called pokemon rivals i don't entirely remember but the new pokemon one which looks actually really awesome but i haven't played it yet but i plan to um looks oh jeez mr john wick in chat uh chat gets really hyped up anytime anyone mentions Dota.

But yeah, those games are quite different. League of Legends jumped into a space where there wasn't really a full dedicated version. There was just the UGC, user-generated content version. There was Heroes of New Earth back then. But yeah, I don't know. I think that's different. I think that would be different like if someone right now made a uh tower defense game that worked extremely similar to winter mall wars i don't think anyone's gonna go like oh

you ripped off winter mall wars because it was ugc right yeah that's fair um i mean i guess it's just becomes uh it becomes a much broader discussion of you know at what point are you are you ripping something off and at what point are you adding your own special sauce i mean i think that for you and me we're just kind of looking at this going it doesn't appear as though epic has added enough special sauce with that said they clearly have something special in the sauce because Fortnite continues to be wildly popular in spite of the fact that neither of us has gotten into it. Yeah. I mean, if people love Among Us, but they're just kind of sick of playing in 2D, yeah, Fortnite's probably going to win some users over with this and at the end of the day i think it has been proven time and time again that no matter how evil or awful a company is people will continue to support them and continue to give them money as long as they continue to make a product that they want for a price that

they can afford so here we go then um also in the news to this week. Gigabyte has responded to the exploding power supply accusations, blames the media. So basically, I'm just going to read Gigabyte's statement, then we're all going to laugh. Gigabyte is aware of certain media outfits casting doubt over the quality of power supply models GP P850GM and GP P750GM. We were made aware by third parties of concerns regarding potential issues of these models tripping at high wattages when tested via DC electronic load equipment for extended lengths of time, repeatedly close to the 120% to 150% over power protection trigger point. This level of extended testing could severely reduce the lifespan of the product and the components of these power supplies.

Okay, the problem is that Gamers Nexus saw failures before excessive use, and many of them failed in two minutes or less. Apparently nothing went more than 10 minutes. Gigabyte is offering to replace your unit if your serial number is within the proper ranges that they have decided, and so I guess you guys are going to have to go check out the details on that. Let's see gamers Nexus. This is the video. Does Extreme Tech have a link for how you can contact gigabyte support here? Yes, they do have the serial number. So anything from SN20343 G031011 to you know what, I'm not going to bother reading it. There it is. It's down there. So if you have any serial number within that range, you can get a replacement. And a big part of the reason so many people have these power supplies was due to the Newegg shuffle.

And it kind of feels like to a lot of people that a kind of lousy product was being forced on buyers so that they could get a chance to get a graphics card. Not that they would be playing Halo Infinite on that graphics card because... Hold on, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I love that segue. So I like apologize for taking that from you. I'm sorry.

But you got to check out the image I sent you on Discord. This was posted on Reddit by user instilledbee. I'm hoping they created it. I don't see credits for it very nice and it's just it's hilarious and i feel like it's happening uh so i wanted to make sure people saw it i mean that's the thing they gotta understand steve he's like a dog with a bone man he doesn't give up it's not like your little statement is gonna make the crappy power supply go away like he's in the process right now of soliciting his community to send him these power supplies so that he can continue to test them and continue to demonstrate across a wider sampling of

them that they are bad um so i mean the truth will come out and the good thing about steve is that if he does ultimately discover that nope he just happened to get a bad batch i do expect him to to own that so uh yeah i'll be paying i'll be paying very close attention to this one in the coming weeks yeah halo infinite will not ship with co-op or forge now the forge map um building mode will launch in season three that's six months after launch and i don't believe this is the first time that a halo game has launched without forge um so yeah there won't be a forge map building mode okay whatever but co-op co-op's not going to be there at launch? Okay, it's coming in Season 2, which should release three months after the initial launch,

but come on! I guess it just means I'm going to have to wait a little bit longer. Yeah, and maybe with Season 2 there will be a discount or something, because I'm not buying it until it has co-op. Like, I don't care. This opens up a much broader discussion. Like, what features are okay for a game to launch without? At what point do we switch from calling it a gold release or a game release

and just start calling it MVP, minimum viable product? Are we buying a game or are we subscribing to a service? Clearly Microsoft, what with Game Pass and all that, is kind of taking the the latter interpretation of things i mean the thing that i don't the thing that like really gets me is it's been quite a while right it hasn't been an insane amount of time we've i mean skyrim released 10 years ago basically and there's there's no real release date for Elder Scrolls VI in sight. But Halo 5 was October of 2015.

Like, you couldn't wait a little bit and launch with co-op? Come on. I mean, the next logical step, I mean, the whole, like, seasons thing is, you know, to me as sort of an old school gamer is kind of crazy and the next logical step is obviously putting content in temporarily and then it just goes away i think it was you luke that i was talking to about uh a game that one of the floatplane devs plays where there'll be these enormous events that they run

in game was it not you where all that content just gets just gets wiped out yeah what game is it oh man what is it called uh they're gonna jump in in slack and tell me i'm sure uh jonathan it's the one you play and yuki maybe they don't want everyone to know that i don't know um oh it's it's like maybe this will help the community it's a super weeb game that's like on desktop and on mobile and it's it's it gets compared to breath of the wild uh maybe i can find it with those search terms it's not genshin impact is it yep okay hey yeah that comes up if you search up Weeb Game Breath of the Wild. Awesome.

It worked, okay? I wasn't trying to find the answer, all right? I wasn't trying to, yeah. But, yeah, I don't remember what event it was, but one of them was talking about a really cool event that the game had, and then it disappeared. And that's the thing. I mean, just playing Rocket League, there's been some temporary events.

There was a Ghostbusters Halloween. Nick just said Genshin Impact. That's what you said, right? Yep. Yeah. There was a Ghostbusters Halloween event that was so much fun, but it only lasted for like two weeks or something.

Right. And then gone forever. If you happen to like have a life and have to do something else for a little bit, that's it. You're done. You missed it. You don't get to play it. You're out.

Just like if you don't get the color you want right away, you might miss it. You're done. You're out. LTT store lanyards are now available in a wide variety of colors 9.99 us dollars lttstore.com it's a perfect time to order a uh a lanyard so you can also get one of the new spout lids for the ltt water bottle they are a big improvement over the old ones because they have a little like drinking spout and all that. Also, if you buy

a spout and a water bottle at the same time, we still have a promo running where the spout lid is just five bucks. So go check it out. I've actually been rocking the pink one for a little while. Saw a couple of YouTube comments asking me about that. Hey, what's up with that pink Linus Tech Tips lanyard? It's because we had a whole bunch of new colors coming and I wanted to kind of test drive them. These things are absolutely like bulletproof in terms of the quality of the stitching it's all metal in here it's one of those ones where i just i look at it and i go i don't understand why cheap lanyards even exist because even really nice lanyards are really cheap to make so hey this is a perfect time for us to appreciate the wonderful color selector and all that hey look at that now hold on a second did we like photoshop these to

change the color no we actually took individual pictures in the same pose of every single color of lanyard that's so it's so meticulously specific now that is attention to detail ladies while you were talking about that i had already been like skipping through them being like are these the same yeah no they're not no they're not that's pretty funny all right hey good good work team good work i actually do think that is a good use of time because you should do things properly or do them not at all what's the point of having a picture of different like colors of something if it's not actually a picture of it in that color if it's just a photoshopped representation uh nick says hoffman number one photographer xd all right another thing uh linus was talking about if things go out of stock an ltd store

if there is something currently out of stock or in the future if there's something out of stock on LTT store. If there is something currently out of stock or in the future, if there's something out of stock, we now have back in stock notifications that can be specific to the size and color or variant. So like if it's one of the plushies, for example, it might not be a size or color thing. It might be a variant thing. So you can get a specific back in stock notification for that specific type of thing that you want. So if something runs out on LTT store, sign up for that notification and you'll know when it's back. All right. Let's do some super chats here. I had a few people asking me before the show over on float plane about Colton's tattoo. They asked, is it actually real?

Yes, he actually tattooed. So you know why he tattooed LTT store dot com? Because that wasn't part of the challenge. Do you know why he tattooed LTTstore.com because that wasn't part of the challenge do you know why he did because you pay for tattoo artist time by the hour we paid for a full hour and she was done in 45 minutes and he was like well I want to make sure I get

our full money's worth here what else should I get in 15 minutes so we like scrambled got a temp got a uh not a template a um a stencil printed out and she went to town got it done i'm sitting here going like it's not even your money like i paid for it i would have been perfectly comfortable with you just getting the one that you actually threw the dart at uh if you guys don't know channel super fun is back and the first video up is um a tattoo sort of it's a combination of things it's there's

there's tattoos involved we we end up pranking the wives and such and such uh yeah so it's it's pretty good it's pretty fun me Dennis, and Colton having a pretty good time there. Oh, man. Yeah, love it. So go check it out. Make sure you don't miss it. We've also got some super chats to go through today. Dr. Q says, screw OnlyFans, give Anthony a Linux channel. I guess that's responding to the title of this video. Oh, you know what we are going to have is Facebook is sponsoring a series of live audio rooms over the next little bit, and there's going to be one

that I'm hosting with Wendell next Friday. That just reminded me of that. So make sure you don't miss that. Callum says, oh wait, I already went through that one. Adrian says, LTT car channel when? I mean, right now we just put the car videos on LTT and on short circuit. And that's, I think, what we're going to do for the near future anyway.

UltraNero says, with the Galaxy Fold 3 launching, I was curious about the longevity of the device. Would it survive three to four years of use? What if I was careful with it? Three to four years out of a phone all comes down to how you are using it. Are you being careful with it? I mean, I think that there's a solid chance. Yes, it could last three to four years. I also think it'd be very easy for it to be dead in three to four months.

J-Dog says, Intel GPUs seem interesting. Hopefully it'll make the market more diverse. Yes, that's exactly what I'm hoping for. Honestly, I don't even care if they're the best thing ever. I don't even care if one ever ends up in my computer, as long as they end up in someone's computer. That's what we need.

Andrew says, I have a Noctua NH-U9S. My CPU package hits 74 on idle, 100C while gaming. You might still have your plastic peel on there for an idle 100c while gaming you might still have uh you might still have your uh your your plastic peel on there with idle temperatures that high uh load temperatures being high that is just because your cpu got you know low toasty but if you have really high idle temperatures like you're talking 44 degrees above ambient there's something wrong uh it could be that

there it's not screwed down all the way it's not clamping properly you can pop it off and have a look at the thermal compound and you can google images for you know what it should look like when it's making proper contact cat herder cam says gigabyte is denying rmas inside that serial number range and their rma site has been down since august 3rd i've been trying to return a borked mobo and they've told me there's nothing they can do until the server's back up no eta i had noticed some issues with gigabytes website as well what is up with that there was some i don't think it made it into docs but there was some bigger stuff like they had a

malware takeover i believe um got it you keep doing those and i'll try to find the news on it uh ghost potato says among us seems like it was inspired by Town of Salem. Though the games are pretty different, there's definitely lots of similarities. That's fair enough. But as long as you're adding your own spin on it, I think that's what people are upset about. And the other thing is just that Epic does so many collaborations with Fortnite. Why not do it as a collaboration? Then it could have been a super

positive thing for everyone but instead it had to be not a collaboration at all not this time i think that's where some of the anger is coming from as well um jordan already says with all these games releasing as multiplayer only these days i'm actually pretty happy halo is including the single player campaign at least and worrying about co-op etc later i mean okay that's fair enough there was actually yeah i guess i didn't fully answer that question there was a question posed at one point in time which was like what is acceptable or for this and i i think halo has potentially an issue of standing on the shoulders of its previously giant versions um yep but it has established that halo like halo grew because of couch co-op a hundred percent like yeah halo 2

halo 3 popped off because of online original halo the reason why people cared about those games a huge amount when they when they launched was was because of couch co-op there was there's so much neat like if you look back at what made the original halo games huge it's it's undeniable um so to not include co-op in the new version feels like a slight that being said a huge amount of modern shooters don't have single-player campaigns and that sucks i've always loved single-player shooter campaigns um and i've always loved that they have generally had co-op so yeah i don't know i'm happy that it's going to include it eventually i'm sad that it's not there by default

oh here we go i'm curious what colors are most popular for the new lanyards i actually want you to try and guess at this we've already sold a whack of them so i've got it i've got enough data um i just want to get through a few more super chats and then we can uh we can go through i have a look at the rainbow of colors available and let me know which ones which ones you think are most popular i think i've already made a guess oh for number one i think i've already made a guess but yeah yeah. Vitor asks, when will be the next LTT Expo? We're hoping for 2022, probably summer. Thanks for the happy birthday wishes, some of you. Callum says, oh, you missed my super chat.

Yeah, it's not in here. It's a stupid bug. I reported it to YouTube. See, it's not, it doesn't go up high enough. I clicked the thing right before we started the show, but then I didn't click it again right as we started the show. So i didn't uh click it again right as we started the show so a bunch of them disappeared right as i loaded the tabs so stupid

um thanks larry gans um maceo says tesla robot your thoughts yeah this was a topic in the doc and the reason that i didn't end up talking about it was um i just don't know what to say like yeah in theory it's cool um in theory you know terraforming mars with a nuke is cool the the issue is that um elon has made a lot of promises over the years that have not turned out to be a reality and i i think it's great to have visionaries that are looking into the future and trying to make things happen. But I also think we need to stop taking what he says at face value and we need to look at it as, you know, more like, you know, more like a Kickstarter. Right.

So some Kickstarters end up being very successful. I mean, the model, the Model 3 is by any measure a success as a product, as a movement, you know, getting people to accept even the idea of consumer oriented, like real, real people, not just luxury car buyers, like a real people electric car. It's such an important product, but a lot of what Elon's companies have delivered has not fully met the promises that he's made. I mean, Starlink is another example of a huge success story.

So I think we just need to kind of run it through a Kickstarter filter. We need to sanity check it. We need to not get our hopes too high. Like we need to set our expectations reasonably. Contain the hype. Sorry? Contain the hype.

Yeah. Wait till it actually lands. Yeah. I mean, when they actually deliver, I mean, you look at what boston dynamics is doing with their robots you guys see that parkour video unbelievable but then you see tesla's mock-up and you kind of go yeah you're not going to be able to like boston we already know like boston dynamics is one of if not the leader in that space they're way bulkier

they're heavy they're like and tesla's mock-up just it looks like a mock-up it looks like fantasy and until they actually deliver something with that that level of of functionality and performance i i'm it's just you know i'll wait for the stage demo and hopefully you know the the window doesn't smash or whatever, right? Yeah. The gigabyte thing, by the way, it was posted on August 6th. Apparently they got hit by ransomware by the RansomX gang and they took 112 gigabytes of business data

and they said they were going to release it on the dark web unless the company hit their ransom demands. I'm not exactly sure how this story concludes, but yeah, just that callum says it doesn't matter it was missed just wanted everyone in chat to have a lovely day uh i love everyone it's hard but i've been there and we'll get through this love to all all right thanks callum uh all right so are you ready i want to know what you think is the top selling color of the new LTT lanyard. You are not going to get it. No?

No. Orange. Not even close. Okay, it's close. That's number three. Dang. I thought orange or black. No, it is neither of those.

It's not pink, is it? Is is it pink you seem too excited for this it is not pink pink is kind of in the middle of the pack okay weird one and two are both surprising to me at this point i feel like i'm just going to go through the whole rainbow um is it white nope that's almost dead last i mean i can see that a white lanyard has the potential to get dirty we just want to talk as an option i yeah someone's gonna want it because it's gonna like match their favorite set of shoes or something yeah i don't know or they might be the kind of person that has like multiple lanyards and actually like changes them out it's pretty easy to do uh because especially with the construction of this one it just like goes on to your existing loop so you

just you could easily swap them out with your different outfits or whatever i don't know what people are into um i just brought up the colors so i could review it i thought i was gonna nail it with either orange or uh black but um let's go with the darker of the blues. Yeah, that's number one. Number one is royal blue followed by purple, followed closely by purple. They're almost tied. Really?

Then orange, then acid green. Whoa. I was not expecting acid green to be a popular one. It's very vibrant. So yeah, people are going for those. That's some neon stuff. Yeah, people are going for really, really bold colors. Acid Green.

Oh, Nick said those three have been the most popular internally so far as well. And you know what else is popular internally? Ending the show so Linus and Luke can both start their weekend. Thank you guys very much for tuning into the wanshow we will see you again next week same bad time same bad channel bye i feel like i've gotta get me one of those sky blue ones to go with slow play oh wow this is a great question from dust pierce that i missed um when you get a hold of the steam deck can you test it with the mercedes i forget how you pronounce their but with the m cable to see what their hardware upscaling looks like yeah

that would actually be a really great application for that and thank you for the review of the black ltt lanyard tech gizmo bought it two years ago it's held up great still looks new tempted to buy another heck yeah um uh oh nick asks if i will do a confirmation of the framework investment uh the answer is yes i decided to go ahead but i'm going to do a full video outlining sort of all of my thoughts about it so it wasn't something i was going to do as a wan show topic but yes i i decided to pull the trigger yesterday okay Okay, that's it for the show. Bye, guys. Bye. Bye.

This is weird. YouTube will not let me end the show because I'm not logged in. Are you kidding me? So you got Doc signed out at like the end? Unreal Engine. Okay.