The Weekly Planet - 23 Spider-man In The Avengers, A New Matrix Trilogy & 300!
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Welcome back everyone to another episode of the Weekly Planet, official podcast of ComicBookMovie.com.
My name is James, also Mr. Sunday. With me as always is my co-host, Nick Mason. How is it?
Good. Everything's good.
Good. Great. It's good. I like how my intros are getting more and more awkward, but in different ways. Like sometimes you'll
pretend, last week you pretended I was Chris Hemsworth and I had to just sit there until
you changed your mind. And now you're just throwing me weird, just weird grammar. Yeah.
You see what I do with that. Yeah, you're right. I was going to say though. Yes. Great
shirt. Thank you. I got it off the internet. internet yeah for those who can't see it which is everybody but me it's basically it's the tin man but in an
iron man style correct and it's amazing it's really cool tfury.com they're not they're not
paying me for that aren't they they should yeah somebody should don't go there why are you paying
me for this get straight is it because i provide no value that's that's why that's pretty much it
essentially that's probably yeah yeah if anything i drag it down a little bit so uh yeah should we
get straight to the news let's get to see we get heaps of news we do actually it's a big week for
news this would be a big news-based episode because we didn't do anything else so let's do
it also that is what the listeners wanted Yes That's not true
Many requests
For Just News
And no topic
And we just floundered
For an hour
We'll talk a little bit
About 300
Okay
I quickly slapped
Something together
About a second
Before we started
Recording
Great
So yeah
Alright Mason
Joss Whedon
It was kind of
Semi-leaked
By Drew Pierce
By accident
He wrote Iron Man 3
For starters I don't like the term Semi-leaked by Drew Pearce by accident. He wrote Iron Man 3. For starters, I don't like the term semi-leaked.
It's unpleasant.
I think we should put a moratorium on the term semi-leaked.
Let slipped?
Oh, okay, yeah.
That's right.
Okay.
So basically, Drew Pearce, he directed the All Hail the King one-shot.
Yes.
Which everybody loves, by the way.
Good.
Is that officially out yet?
I don't know yet.
It must be, because I think it's on the Thor Blu-ray. Okay. I think the Thor Blu-ray is either out or not out. Good. Is that officially out yet? I don't know yet. It must be, because I think it's on the Thor Blu-ray.
I think the Thor Blu-ray is either out or not out.
Good.
Is it?
We're here for the news, people.
We sure are.
We're bringing you the red hot news.
So basically, he just made a passing comment saying that
Joss Whedon will be back for The Avengers 3,
which wasn't confirmed, but that's not a surprise, right?
No, you wouldn't think so, no.
So, you know, it's kind of news in the sense that we all assume that to be true anyway.
Hmm.
Are you against this?
Yes.
Give someone else a go.
Like who?
Some fresh eyes.
Michael Bay.
Uwe Boll.
Yeah, Uwe Boll.
Once he's finished with his postal sequel or whatever else, Blood Rain.
Yeah, well, he's doing the postal sequel.
Once he's finished boxing his critics.
Do you remember when he did that?
I remember that, yeah.
He did a charity boxing event,
was that right,
where he'd box his
critics and he's like
just a bit of fun.
Yeah,
just come in and
we'll have a little
fun and box around
or whatever.
But he could
actually box.
Yeah,
and there's clips
on the internet
where he just
brutalised people.
Yeah.
Like there's
the runner of
somethingawful.com.
Oh,
Michael,
no,
what's his name?
Richard,
Richard Kiyanka,
low tax.
Yeah,
yeah.
There's video of his fight out there I think's and he just comes in and he's like all kind of loosey-goosey
and kind of up to have a bit of fun and then just uwe ball just punches him right in the face and
it does not it looks like a terrifying experience it's done everyone except for uwe ball that's
right he was having a great time but Wait, where were we? Mark Webb.
Yes.
Let's talk about that.
The director of something Spider-Man related?
Director of Amazing Spider-Man and Amazing Spider-Man 2, both of which you love and have seen.
No, that's also a trick question because the second one's an out.
Correct.
Right?
Okay, good.
That's right.
But yeah, basically he's confirmed that, it's been confirmed that he's back for Spider-Man 3.
Amazing Spider-Man 3.
This is threequel week. It sure is, Mason. Threequel news week. And that'll be out June Spider-Man 3. Amazing Spider-Man 3. This is three-quel week.
It sure is, Mason.
Three-quel news week.
And that'll be out
June 3rd, 2016.
But in addition to that,
we've also got other
Spider-Man movies coming.
Unless there's an apocalypse.
Do we have an apocalypse
scheduled?
I don't think so.
Not this year.
There was one 2012.
Yep.
There was one 2000
and the year 2000.
And I'm sure there was
some other ones in between.
Right.
Those are the big ones
that I can recall.
That was what the song Millennium was about, wasn't it?
The upcoming apocalypse.
Yes.
Yeah.
That was, it was a prophecy for an unending doom, an era of unending doom on earth.
But it turned out it was just about his kids being born.
Yeah.
Oh, great.
Also, there are other Spider-Man spin-off films coming out around that time.
We're probably getting one a year, it's said.
Okay. I think from year, it's said. Okay.
I think from 2015, from this year.
So I think possibly next, no, from 2015, I think.
Uh-huh.
What am I saying?
Spin-off films.
Yeah, that's right.
We're supposed to be getting a Spider-Man film a year,
basically we're going to get a Venom one, a Sinister Six one,
Spider-Man 3 and 4,
and they're basically going to go one a year until they get to four,
and then they go, well, we're out of ideas.
And Andrew Garfield doesn't want to do this anymore.
And then they're stuck again.
He's got a wrinkle.
He's out.
Get another kid.
Get a kid off YouTube.
Here we go.
That's it.
That's it.
But hey, there was interviews with the cast of The Amazing Spider-Man 2.
Emma Stone, Andrew Garfield.
Yes.
And the director, Mark Webb.
And they all said they were very much open to an Avengers Spider-Man crossover.
Well, good luck, idiots.
Do you think there is zero chance of this happening?
Um...
Bearing in mind there's zero chance of this happening.
There really is, isn't there?
Well, no, to be fair, they were talking about putting the Oscorp Tower in the Avengers.
Right, okay.
And that never ended up happening.
Yeah, yeah.
And apparently there was talks, and Mark Webber even said that in this interview,
that like, yeah, there was kind of, you know,
they made steps, but nothing really happened.
Because I remember when,
if you remember the cartoon series Justice League Unlimited.
Yes.
There was an episode where they put in Captain Marvel,
and I remember that,
but apparently that was a legal nightmare,
to put him in one episode.
Really?
I didn't even know that was a thing.
But so the idea of the legal wrangling of that was so difficult.
The idea of now putting together two multi-billion dollar franchises.
Nightmare.
Easy.
Because how do you split that?
Because all the Avengers make about minimum $600 million a movie alone.
Minimum.
Spider-Man makes also about that, I'd imagine.
But regardless of whether Spider-Man is in an that, I'd imagine. But regardless of whether
Spider-Man is in an Avengers film,
the Avengers are still going to make the same money.
That's probably it. Do you know what I mean?
How do you split that? You don't give him half.
No, that's right.
What they could do is they could
base it on merchandise.
Like they could sell
Iron Man and Captain America
and whatever and spider-man
merchandise and and then like the end of the year they add it all up and if spider-man wins
then like sony gets all the money okay they get literally all the money but if but if like iron
man wins robert danny jr gets literally all the money you see how that works as per usual as per
usual yeah yeah so look I'd like to
see it but to be
honest I'm not
really too stressed
if we never do
because I know
it's a nightmare
I think the Avengers
work without
Spider-Man
and again I would
like to see it
but if it doesn't
it doesn't
there's more of a
chance of that
happening in the
X-Men crossing over
though because now
they both have
Quicksilver
that's not a
you just have a
scene where they're
both killed
like they meet they just run into each other they're both killed. Like they meet...
They just run into each other
and they mesh together.
And they touch
and they explode
like in Time Cop.
That happened in Time Cop?
You can't touch
your parcel.
Why not?
Because you'll explode.
What happens if you
touch them really gently?
Oh, maybe they explode.
What if you have a stick
and you touch them
with the stick?
I think the stick is fine.
Unless they also have a stick.
I could be a Time Cop. Yeah, yeah. I know the rules. I'm not saying you couldn't be a stick. I think the stick is fine. Unless I also have a stick. I could be a time cop.
Yeah, yeah.
I know the rules.
I'm not saying you couldn't be a time cop, alright?
I thought that's what you were saying,
so I'm sorry I got a bit...
Listen, as I was leading up to telling you
you couldn't be a time cop.
What?
Nothing.
Good on you, mate.
You're the best.
Alright, Mason, we got our first look
at The Flash this week.
Yes.
For the Flash TV series.
The second live-action Flash TV series. Yes. For the Flash TV series. The second live action Flash TV series.
Yeah.
Possibly the best or the worst.
Too early to say.
What do you think of the costume?
It's just the head.
It's just the cowl.
What do you think?
Looks good.
Looks leathery.
It does look leathery, yeah.
Looks form-fitting.
It does look form-fitting.
That's classic The Flash.
Man, I tell you what, though.
Doesn't have the wings on the side.
It has the lightning bolt.
Yeah.
Which I think is a nice stylistic touch.
Yeah. But it's not. Because wings. Yeah. I mean, realistically. Come on. Yeah. have the wings on the side. It has the lightning bolt. Yeah. Which I think is a nice stylistic touch. Yeah.
That it's not.
Because wings.
Yeah.
I mean realistically.
Come on.
Yeah.
Let's.
Come on.
Come on guys.
Come on guys.
Haven't TV costumes come a long way though?
They really have yeah.
I mean wow.
He doesn't look styrofoamy.
No.
The first one looked very styrofoamy.
It really did.
Which is weird because it was all his muscles.
He just had real styrofoamy muscles.
So yeah look. It's coming out at some point, I'd imagine.
And this was pointed out to me.
It's probably the first promo shot in like 50 years of a TV superhero who's smiling.
Okay.
Weird, right?
I'm trying to think of that.
Yeah.
That sounds about right.
Or in fact, any superhero, like any movie, Spider-Man, does he smile?
No?
He doesn't smile.
Tobey Maguire hasn't smiled in any of those movies.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah.
Everybody's a bit kind of, everybody's torn up inside.
It's very down.
Even the Avengers, which is a light-hearted affair.
Yeah, yeah.
All grim.
Yeah, look at those posters.
Yeah.
You know what was great about it?
I loved that bit in the Avengers when you saw the trailer and you saw the Hulk smile
because you never see the Hulk smile
that's true
and that was great
I was like
this is going to be great
he was thinking about murder
he was
I loved it
it was good stuff
but yeah first one
so maybe this will be
a light hearted kind of
I mean his mother was murdered
sure
and he's searching for the
murder of his
of his mother
but he's searching really quickly
yeah
so that'll be fine
so he's got time for a
smell the roses
he sure does.
Now, Mason, we were going to talk about this last week, because as we were podcasting,
this news broke.
Yes.
And then we just went, ah, fuck it.
Who cares?
We'll do it next week.
Oh, that's right.
Okay, I remember now.
Yeah.
Which I think is probably testament to how important the news is.
Well, that's right.
If you're like, should we quickly do this?
We've got all the equipment set up.
We can do it in two minutes.
I could just press a button.
We're both sitting down.
We could do this.
Nah, don't worry about it.
I nearly didn't even put it in for this week.
Yeah.
But basically, for those not in the know...
I actually can't remember what it is.
So, that's how important it is.
So, it's going to be news to me as well.
Alright.
It's a 13-episode miniseries for Heroes Reborn.
That's what I think about that.
Well, look.
Heroes gets a bad rap.
Because it's not very good.
Because it's not very good.
First season's okay.
Yep.
They steal a lot from comics.
Yep.
And just kind of
commentate on that.
It's an homage.
It's an homage.
It's a straight rip-off.
A lot of it.
I only watched the first series.
I watched like the first two
of the second series
and then I went,
nah.
And then I stopped watching it.
And that was in a time
when we weren't getting
a lot of comic book stuff.
But even then I'm like, not watching that. It I stopped watching it and that was in a time when we weren't getting a lot of comic book stuff but even then I'm like
not watching that
it's not good but
that was due to the
writer's strike though
that was around that
time so that's why
it suffered
can't blame it all
on the writer's strike
no you can't Mason
it was a dark time
but still
you said there were
four seasons of that
show
yeah I know
I only knew that
I thought there was
like two
because I just
completely blacked
that out
yeah yeah
so yeah
this one's going to be like a standalone series there might be other heroes from the I thought there was like two. Because I just completely blacked that out. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah.
This one's going to be like a standalone series.
There might be other heroes from the past coming in.
Like people who haven't gotten work?
Yes.
So, most of them?
So, anybody but Zachary Quinto.
Yeah.
Who else is in that?
That girl?
The cheerleader girl?
What is she in?
Is she in something?
She's around.
She's in things.
Oh, yeah.
That's a good point.
She's at nightclub openings?
Sure.
And there's somebody else who's, I don't know.
Is it Greg Grunberg? Is that the guy who was the mayor? The guy who was
Stallone's son. Milo something.
Oh, Milo Bentonilia. Milo Kunis.
Yes. Yeah. He's in things.
He was in Rocky
6?
Yes. Yes.
You just did the math. I did, yes.
I could hear your brain ticking as you worked that out.
Yeah.
So, yeah, there you go.
Now, I guess it's fine.
Now's as good a time as any to bring it back, though, isn't it?
No.
No, it's not.
No.
And that series ended with, like...
A bang.
Really went out strong.
No, I don't think it did.
I don't know.
I think it ended kind of with a whimper.
I watched maybe two and a half seasons of Heroes.
The other day I'm like, oh, Heroes.
I wonder what happened with that.
And I wikied it.
And I read the last episode summary and I really couldn't make heads or tails of it.
I think it was like a guy...
You know what?
There's probably a follow-up mini-comic series
that we haven't read. There's a guy... You know why? There's probably a follow-up mini-comic series that you haven't read.
There's a guy and he had earth-shattering powers, like earthquake powers,
but he also became more powerful if people followed him.
So he was like a cult leader kind of thing, or a political figure or something like that.
Yeah, yeah.
And then he just beat him up.
And that was the end, I think.
Oh, and then they're like, hey, and we're superheroes.
Hey, the world knows about superheroes now.
Didn't they already know that?
No, I don't think they did.
And also, like, half of them lost their powers, but they got more...
They got, like, artificial powers.
Like Milo Kunis.
He lost his powers.
His dad stole his powers.
Because his dad had the ability to steal powers.
Didn't he have the ability to steal powers?
Yeah, but then his dad stole that power.
Okay. Because his dad, you know... So his dad stole his ability to steal powers. Didn't he have the ability to steal powers? Yeah, but then his dad stole that power. Okay.
Because his dad, you know...
So his dad stole his ability to steal powers.
Yeah, and then...
And then did he steal the powers that he had already stolen?
Yes.
Okay.
So he got all the powers.
He got all the powers, right.
And then Milo Kunis, he also...
He got artificial powers, which was similar to his old powers.
Okay.
Did he end up getting that scar?
Because he came back from the future and he had a scar?
Who's to say?
It was a little bit confusing.
Was it?
Yeah.
It was really confusing.
It was really confusing and awful, yeah.
But hey, let's move it along, because I've got something that's less confusing and awful
coming up next.
Okay, I'm ready.
There's a new Matrix trilogy, possibly.
Oh!
Excited about that.
Are you?
No.
Yeah.
Now, apparently,
this is a rumour,
but apparently the Wachowskis
have already started
the writing process
for this brand new trilogy.
You mean they've gone
through their notebook
of cool stuff
that they wrote in high school
and they've still got
some stuff in the tank?
I tell you what, man.
I mean,
the idea is apparently
Warner Brothers
won another kind of
surefire franchise.
And look,
a Matrix, any Matrix movie would make money, even though nobody likes the Matrix sequels.
Right, right, right.
And they retroactively make the first one much worse somehow.
Absolutely they do, yeah.
But I guess people will see this.
There's rumours that it's going to be the start of The Matrix.
Oh, yeah, okay.
Or a sequel and Neo would return.
Because apparently there was, Keanu Reeves said in an interview a few years ago
that Wachowski's approached him for another two Matrix movies
and floated some ideas to him.
That was about three or four years ago.
So, yeah, I guess.
The thing about...
I think a prequel would sort of work.
But because there's...
If you've seen the Animatrix, and there's also a lot of prequel
comics sort of around the time the first couple of movies came out yeah you know the there's that
the idea that humanity created artificial intelligence and then they rebelled and then
they created their own the artificial the robots created their own city and stuff like that which
is kind of interesting and then there's the war yeah Yeah. But you can't put any Matrix-y things in there?
No.
Like, you can't have anybody doing super fast kung fu? You'd have to make it like a Skynet future movie.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
We've seen a lot of that.
We sure have.
I don't know if that's interesting.
Yeah.
Also, you know what?
I would see it again.
I would see sequels,
as long as they're set in 1999.
Well, that's the thing.
Because the Matrix is always set in 1999.
That's right.
It's because it's supposed to be the peak of humanity.
Right, right.
Which we know now.
It was 1999.
Yeah.
Looking back,
we know that to be true.
Yeah, yeah.
But I mean,
when was the last time
you picked up a mobile phone
and you pushed the button
and it sprang out
real dramatically?
Didn't you have that phone?
I did have that.
I had something like that.
I remember seeing that
and going,
that's the coolest phone
I've ever seen.
Yeah, yeah.
You blew my mind
with that phone.
And you still got it.
But now, yeah, exactly.
I can get on Usenet with it.
I can get on my Geocities page.
All that sort of stuff.
Pets.com.
What else is defunct?
I don't know.
Geocities?
Ask Jeeves.
Anyway, but you couldn't set the matrix.
Oh, maybe you could could but it wouldn't be
as fun no it wouldn't be because the matrix it's got that very specific year 1999 look yeah you
know what i think they just go let's just make it now it's just easier also no pay phones no 14
well that's right how are they gonna escape the matrix they can't that's right once you're in
you're like oh shit i'm here forever. I'm here until someone beats me to death.
So, yeah, I guess.
What was the last thing they did?
Cloud Atlas, right?
Yeah, they did Cloud Atlas before that, which I started to watch.
Apparently, it's good, but it's one of those ones you really got to sit and watch it. And I'm a big fan of sitting and just watching things with one eye as I do something else.
Right, right, right.
Because I know it's zero atten...
Lift weights.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm so muscular. You've seen've seen mad dog like a mad dog and so you really have to give it your full attention and and i didn't grab me enough to do that there's only really a few things that can
do that game is suggesting though that people in cinemas are all going to be doing something else
and this is really going to have to draw the like everybody's going to be lifting weights
i think my point is
that movie's not good
enough to hold my
attention
oh I get it
that was my point
but most things aren't
Game of Thrones is
one of the only things
where I shut everything
down
and there's a few
other things
but other than that
I'll watch something
and do something else
because you know
keep them busy
for me that was
The Wire
and now True Detective
which
I've got to get into
that
you should have saved that for what you read and what you're going to read well maybe I'll change it up alright then Keep them busy. For me, that was The Wire and now True Detective, which... I've got to get into that. It's good stuff. Yeah.
You should have saved that for what you read and what you're going to read.
Well, maybe I'll change it up.
All right, then.
So, yeah, I was going to say something else about The Matrix, but I can't really remember. You know, there's a whole lot of story ideas for how The Matrix should have ended.
Uh-huh.
And, like, theories of what it actually was and what it all meant.
I think it should have ended in, like, a weird mech shootout in an underground tunnel.
Exactly!
Why does it end with people that have just been introduced in a weird mech shootout?
And mechs are great, and yet that's really boring.
Yeah.
It's bizarre.
I don't understand.
It's just such a weird and anticlimactic ending.
But remember the human drama?
No!
I remember the weird sweaty underground rave.
Yeah, that was a good one, wasn't it?
But all these theories that I've read, though, they're all better
than how it actually ended. One was that
I can't remember all of them. I'll give you one.
It's not even that great, this one that I remember.
But basically, it was a matrix
inside a matrix. So the reason, though,
that Neo came out and he could stop
machines or whatever was because it was
layers, basically.
Right, okay, right.
So, that's not great, now that I say that out loud.
But I still think that is better than the actual ending.
You're probably right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What a bunch of bullshit those movies are.
This, like, pseudo-philosophical nonsense that went through it.
The problem is, well, the Wachowskis don't understand
what's great about the first Matrix.
Because you can clearly tell that
from the direction the second two go.
Because if they understood
what's good about that,
what's appealing about that movie,
then it wouldn't have gone the way it did, basically.
You're right.
It's the same with George Lucas in Star Wars.
It's the same with the director of Donnie Darko.
Because the director's cut of Donnie Darko...
Oh, Donald Darkatron.
Donald Darkatron makes less sense.
Yeah.
Because I think Donnie Darko is a fluke.
I don't think he meant to make that.
I think you're right.
I think you ruffled some feathers with that.
Yeah.
I like Donnie Darko.
I'm not saying I don't like him.
I don't like Donnie Darko.
Okay, fair enough.
Because it's a film that only makes sense if you also read the accompanying website,
which has the weird philosophy on time travel in it
and the weird time travel parallel universe
weird loop-closing situation that happens in it.
Is that why you don't like Back to the Future 3
because there's a website explaining it?
No.
It's pretty straightforward.
Just get that train going.
Yeah.
Stoke that
burner.
From sad news though, Mason, to even sadder
news. Howard Ramis.
The great Howard Ramis passed away this week.
Which sucks. I know, that's the worst.
I didn't want to bring it up because
I don't know.
I don't want to make light of it because he was a
great guy and he made great films and
whatnot.
And also, we've not mentioned a lot of other celebrities.
Yeah, exactly.
So now it seems like we've devalued those.
Yeah, well, that's it.
But yeah, now, Harold Ramis, you know, Caddyshack, Ghostbusters, Animal House.
Yeah.
Groundhog Day.
Groundhog Day.
He's great in the Knocked Up as well.
That was the day, yeah. Yeah, he's terrific.
He's great in an interview.
He was.
Sorry?
He was. He was, sorry, yeah. He just terrific. He's great in an interview. He was. Sorry? He was.
He was, sorry, yeah.
He just seemed like a genuinely good guy.
But in relation to that, he was big on getting the Ghostbusters 3 happening.
Yep.
That's apparently not on hold.
So basically they're just going to ride around it and kind of push forth with that.
Maybe this is really the sign to just let it go.
Probably, yeah.
I mean, Murray's not coming back.
Harold Ramis is now dead. Not coming back. No. So, you know. Probably, yeah. I mean, Murray's not coming back. Harold Ramis is now dead.
Not coming back.
No.
So, you know.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I know, right?
Make a joke, Mason.
Lighten the mood.
I can't.
I can't do it.
Oh,
if only Harold Ramis were here.
He'd say something right,
but he can't.
It bums me out, man.
God, there's been a lot of,
if you notice,
there's been a lot of celebrities
dying lately.
Is that just me?
Or do they always die and I don't notice?
Ah...
Philip Seymour Hoffman, Paul Walker, Howard Ramis.
I'm trying to think.
I'm sure there's others that I've missed.
I don't know.
No.
Anyway.
All right.
Do you have...
Is your next...
See, how it works on the actual news...
So anyway, rest in peace, Howard Ramis.
That's...
We're going to miss you.
Yeah.
On the actual news, what they do is then they segue into a lighter bit of news about a kitten
caught in a tree or something like that.
Okay.
Or like a sloth that has learned to dance or something for fish or whatever a sloth
does.
So my hope is as a professional, you will have transitioned into a light, lighthearted
piece of news about maybe Michael Bay has learned to dance for fish or something.
Well, look, it's light-ish.
I didn't do it on purpose.
Okay, good.
But it's light-ish.
A GameSpot user
has supposedly obtained
a photo of the new
Batman logo and banner
for the new Arkham game.
Ooh.
Which will be made
by Rocksteady.
This is the sequel.
This is the sequel.
So I'm hoping that this is...
And Rocksteady's back on board.
Yeah, well, Rocksteady,
I think that's what Rocksteady have been doing this entire time. Ah, okay, right. I'm assuming they Rocksteady's back on board yeah well Rocksteady I think that's what
Rocksteady have been doing
this entire time
I'm assuming they've been
building a next gen
Batman game
which I'm super excited for
but if they come out
and they're like
we haven't been doing anything
I'm going to be really upset
so
because as we've established
the last Batman game
is good
but it's
it's certainly not as good
as Arkham City
that's very true
and you don't even think
it's as good as the first one
is that correct?
Which I also agree with.
Yeah, you're right.
Because, I mean, as good as the last game was, it's only as good as it is.
Not to sell it short because it's fine.
It's a good experience.
It's only as good as it is because it built off the previous two.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I get the feeling that that company couldn't have made that game without being given everything.
Exactly, yeah.
From it, yeah.
But great story, I thought.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
What do you think of that?
Would you like that to be true?
I'm going to look up the logo.
It's really not that.
It's just a Batman logo and it's just kind of in fire.
And that's it.
It's not.
Well, then I'm impressed.
Because when has anyone ever done that?
Think about it.
Multiple, multiple times.
But I'm very excited.
Do you want to look it up or do you want me to move on to the next thing?
You move on to the next thing and then i'll just jump in with oh yeah
fx is the veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who
play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from istanbul to paris and london one woman has
a secret the other a mission to reveal it
before thousands of lives are lost.
FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss,
is now streaming on Disney+.
So basically, at the Star Trek convention,
a recent Star Trek convention,
I think it was in Las Vegas,
which you and I attended.
Sure.
I was a wolf.
I was Stevendorf., which you and I attended. Sure. I was a Worf. I was Steven Dorf.
I was Steven Dorf.
But Carl Urban was asked, as he is in every interview, what's going on with Dread 2?
And he said, funnily enough, shut up.
No, he said, conversations are taking place.
So I think the Blu-ray sales and digital downloads for Dread are adding up to something.
Interesting.
I would like this to be the case, but you know what's going to happen?
It's the same thing that's going to happen with Serenity.
It'll come out, it'll again make zero money, and then that will be it forever.
I mean, I don't care.
I want to see another one.
If it makes zero money, it's...
But I think something like Dread does have...
It's got a limit on it.
Like how many... I would say three would be an absolute maximum.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, two is really pushing it, I think.
So, yeah, it'll probably be made in Europe by those people that make the Liam Neeson films.
That's right.
He'll be fighting wolves in East Meguan, you know, in the frozen tundra.
Yeah, yeah.
It'll be great.
Look, I'd love to see it.
I like Dread a lot.
You like Dread a lot also
yes
yeah
wasn't Dreadful was it
but you know
the marketing sunk that film as well
the lack of marketing
and it came out
like a weird time of year
yeah
it was like
I think it was like
November or something
Christmas Day
just for 24 hours
yeah that's right
so it was kind of
the odds were stacked against it
but if you put that out
in like August
yeah yeah it was like a late summer movie or whatever,
you know, Northern Hemisphere summer movie.
Yeah.
Then that would do.
If you're listening, Carl Urban,
you tell your bosses,
you tell them what we said.
Yeah!
All right.
You're familiar with Adam Driver?
Yes.
From Girls?
From Girls and possibly Nightwing.
Rumoured to be Nightwing.
Every other character with slightly long hair.
That's right. In comic long hair. That's right.
In comic book movies.
That's it.
And it's way forward, yes.
Well, it's been rumoured that he is in Final Talks to play a Darth Vader-style villain
in the Matrix.
No, in Star Wars.
Okay.
You know Star Wars.
Yeah.
And by...
I mean, everybody knows Star Wars, but you know all the...
I know it more.
You know all the expanded universes.
I don't.
I know so...
You do.
You love all those books. You love all the comic books. I've read like... know all the expanded universe I don't I know so you do you love all those books
you love all those
I've read like
you love the one
where there's zombies
or whatever it is
I have read that one
yeah okay
um
who do you think
he could be
no one
I think it's a new character
oh okay
what I think's happened here
first I think
if they said
it's a Darth Vader
Darth Vader style character
I said this in one
of my videos Mason
I know I say that a lot
but basically
I had the idea offhand that there should be a guy who turns up and he's
Vader-esque.
Yep.
And he either claims that he's Vader or people assume that he's Vader.
I see.
And then they go to Luke and they're like, what the fuck, man?
And Luke's like, it's not Vader.
I told you.
He died.
And he was my father.
I was there.
And they're like, yeah, well, you're the only one who saw it.
You're a total arsehole.
Why don't you fucking do something about this?
I like this new Han Solo-esque character.
You're an arsehole.
He doesn't even have the subtlety of Harrison Ford.
You're an arsehole, and I hate your face.
How do you like that?
You want to choke me?
You don't have the guts.
That's right.
So they could come and say, well, look, you're the only one who...
We have to just assume that he's come back before.
Right.
He was severed in horrible ways and he came back.
Yeah.
This could very well be him.
Remember that time his arms and legs got cut off and he was rolled in fire?
Like a pancake?
So, yeah, I think...
I hope that that's the way it goes.
Okay, yeah.
Because that's my idea.
I hope we're surprised.
Yeah, sure.
Because I'm sick of being spoiled before movies come out.
Fair point.
But you know what else I think they're doing here?
What's that?
If you look at who they got for Anakin Skywalker...
Jake Lloyd again?
No, no, sorry, the older one.
Hayden Christensen.
Jake Lloyd, yeah.
Yeah, Jake Lloyd. Hayden Christensen. Jake Lloyd, yeah. Yeah, Jake Lloyd.
Hayden Christensen is not actually a bad
actor. I just think he was very young
in that role to be thrown in front of green
screen. Because if you see Shattered Glass
and there's some other movies that he's in, there's one
he's in with Kevin Klymer, he's like a youth
and he's angry and he likes drugs.
He's not actually that bad an actor.
He's actually got some skills. We've all seen
Jumper. I was going to say Jumper, but then I thought, was that him or was that Ryan Felipe?
It was both of them.
They just switched them out seed to seed.
Via jumping?
That's right.
Do you remember when he jumpered Samuel L. Jackson into a cave?
Yeah.
And Samuel L. Jackson was like, you got me, Jumper.
Yep.
You got me this time.
He had that wry smile.
He did.
He was like, look, I'm a crazy religious fundamentalist who wants nothing better to murder all of your kind. But you got me. You got me this time. He had that wry smile. He did. He was like, look, I'm a crazy religious fundamentalist who wants nothing better to murder all of your kind.
But you got me.
You got me, mate.
I'm going to die in this cave.
Oh, well played.
But what I basically think they're doing is, J.J. Abrams has looked at the prequels and gone,
they got a handsome kind of mannequin looking man to play a character.
Mannequin Skywalker.
Mannequin Skywalker, yeah.
Which was way out of his depth.
Right.
Acting wise. Considering the direction he was given also. I don't blame Hayden Christensen for that. Mannequin Skywalker. Mannequin Skywalker, yeah, which was way out of his depth acting-wise,
considering the direction he was given also.
I don't blame Hayden Christensen for that.
And also weird baby dialogue.
And weird baby dialogue, exactly.
And then for this one, they get someone who's not what you'd call
traditionally good-looking.
Isn't he?
No, no.
I mean, I don't think people like...
He's a monster.
He's not a monster.
He's a regular guy.
He's a regular guy, yeah.
And I wouldn't even say he's untraditionally handsome.
What if you cut his hair and cut off all that facial hair?
Then, yeah, he'd look like a monster.
Oh, that's...
Wow.
Good call, then.
Because he's got those big ears.
I've gone from being really nice to just insulting him
just in one fell swoop.
But he's got a lot of range.
Even in the show Girls, he's easily the best actor in that.
Right.
So I think they've gone, let's get someone who can just really sell this.
And if this is true, that's why I think they got him.
This may be the first instance of good acting in a Star Wars film.
Don't you think that IG-88 did good acting?
He did pretty good acting.
Don't you think the CGI Psy-Snootles in the re-edition of Return of the Jedi was good when she sung that song?
What?
Do you remember the bit?
No!
Jabba's Palace.
No!
In the new Return of the Jedi.
No!
Where they put a musical number.
You don't remember that?
Not really.
It's incredible.
Did it go...
No!
It's a whole song.
I have no memory of that.
I'll put in a clip.
And I have seen it.
I have seen it at the cinema, so I don't know. Yeah. I'll put in a clip. And I have seen it. I have seen it at the cinema, so I don't know.
Yeah.
Yeah, put in a clip.
Do you like 1997 CGI?
No.
Then you'll love it.
Great.
Anyway.
Because that's what he apparently wanted to do originally.
He's like, I wanted to put a musical number in Star Wars, because people would be like,
what?
Yeah, they would be like that.
They would.
Certainly would, yeah.
But not in a good way.
That sounds like desperation.
Yeah.
Like the musical, the dance sequence in Spider-Man 3.
Yeah, exactly.
Or the start of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom with the dance sequence.
That kind of works.
Yeah.
Great movie.
Temple of Doom?
It's fine.
You're a dickhead.
You're a dickhead.
All right, Mason.
I'm glad I didn't follow the Harold Ramis news with this.
Ew.
But Fast and Furious...
Harold Ramis' corpse has been dismembered.
Oh, jeez.
And spread all over the New York Public Library But Fast and Furious... Harold Ramis' corpse has been dismembered. Oh, jeez.
And spread all over
the New York Public Library.
Fast and Furious...
Is this too soon for jokes?
I think it's way too soon.
Oh, okay.
Keep that in there.
It's minutes.
Keep that in there.
Keep it in.
It's fine.
Fast and Furious 7
is going back for filming
in April
for six to eight weeks
to finish off.
Yeah, yeah.
Obviously, there was a hiatus
after Paul Walker died.
He will still be in the movie.
There's rumours that...
Well, they're going to
write him out in a way that he kind of
goes off into the sunset and lives happily, which is nice.
And there's rumours that his brother's going to replace him.
We've talked about this.
Yeah, yeah.
And they're going to CGI Paul Walker's face, which would be, you know, weird-ish, I guess.
But, you know, do what you've got to do, I guess.
Yep.
But, hey.
So, yeah, there you go.
What do you think of Need for Speed?
Like, I'm seeing a lot of advertising for that.
I didn't realise, but it's actually out here.
There you go. I'm going to go and see it. Let's not see it. No, I don't want to see it. No, I'll see Need for Speed. I'm seeing a lot of advertising for that. I didn't realise, but it's actually out here. There you go.
Can I go and see it?
Let's not see it.
No, I don't want to see it.
No, I'll see it.
Sure.
Yeah.
I'll see it when it comes out on Blu-ray and I buy the steelbook.
I get it.
I don't know.
They seem to be trying to find a midpoint between Fast and Furious ridiculousness and
like drive.
Yeah.
Or, you know.
Sure.
A lot of actual practical stunts in that movie yeah
and kind of some some drama yeah that isn't nonsense yeah have you got have you got any
friends who love cars not that i talk to on facebook certainly and they appear and they're
like when you whatever yeah see that's how much I know about cars. That is the best reference I could pull about cars.
Got my new whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
That's pretty much it.
Why do you ask?
No, well, I was with a guy yesterday.
He's like a friend of a friend from school.
He's in the group, you know?
Right, right, right, yeah.
And every conversation, he'll bring up cars in that conversation.
So he'll be like, I met this girl.
And then he's like and she drives
this particular car like that adds anything to the story right like like you'll be like
or his story will start she challenged me to a race yeah exactly you're like i pulled up at the
lights and i saw this car and then i went to the supermarket it's like you could have cut that bit
out about the car what happened at the supermarket get to it exactly but the other thing is though
like we love comic books right here's what happened i was going on my way to the supermarket? Get to it Exactly But the other thing is though We love comic books right?
Here's what happened
I was on my way to the supermarket
And I saw this car
And then I got to the supermarket
And then I was going through the self checkout
And this car was in the way
And it was 12 items or less
And he was just there
He just didn't understand
He didn't know how to weigh his vegetables
And I'm like come on the car
You know
So it's relevant Nice spoiler Yeah You've spoiled my day Yeah Nice one I'm like, come on, the car. You know? Sounds relevant.
Nice spoiler.
Yeah.
You've spoiled my day.
Yeah.
Nice one.
I'm real late.
You're right.
He's a good storyteller.
Yeah.
The point is, though, we like comic book movies and comic books and whatever and TV and whatever.
But in every conversation I have with people, I don't bring it up.
That's true.
Most people don't even know that I like this stuff.
Like, if people ask me at work, they're like, what do you think of this movie?
And instead of getting into it, I just go, don't know.
Right.
Because I just don't want to get into it.
I'm not going to spend 30 minutes...
And then, you know, I'll spend 30 minutes ranting and then everyone will be backing away.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm like, oh, no, I've alienated everybody.
Yeah.
I find that that also happens in, like, if you go to, like, a trivia...
Yep.
A trivia night or something like that
and they'll ask a question
and you know more than the question is asking
and you will get the question wrong
because you know more and then an argument starts
they'll be like
what's the name of Rob
what's Robyn's secret identity
and you're like well there's been a few
you know
look do you mean in current continuity
look I'll write five names down.
Look, and I'll put an X near the ones that have been retconned out.
And, um, here's a potential future version.
Um, where are you, where are you guys going?
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, you're right.
So yeah, play it cool, Mason.
Yeah.
Although what you do tend to do is bring up your personal vendettas.
That's true.
On this podcast.
Yeah, this is one of them.
And that's true. This is vendetta talk. And to be fair, I do bring up personal vendettas that's true on this podcast yes this is this is one of them that's true this is vendetta talk and to be fair i do bring up personal
vendettas a lot in real life so that's probably what i mostly talk about yeah yeah yeah yeah
all right moving along mason minecraft movie apparently in the works okay i saw a fake poster
on cracked for a minecraft movie i was like oh look at the wackiest movies that are based on
video games that will never get made and now this is a real thing i think maybe movie studios are just mining crack.com
i think you might be right a lot of pages there's like 15 million page views they're like that'll
do that's the one whatever that is yeah weirdest animals that love ice cream let's get it let's do
it let's do it i think it's a reaction to the Lego movie. Yeah, I was going to say, yeah. That's what I think. So it's all CGI.
That's a dumb question I was going to ask.
Is it going to be all CGI?
No.
Real?
They'll carve out real? I think we do for another movie where people fall into a computer world.
You want to see another Super Mario Brothers?
Yes.
That's not a computer world, is it?
No, it's not.
Yeah, when was the last movie that they fell into?
Tron, I guess.
They fell into a computer world.
Yeah, but I mean more like an 80s. like, you know, they fall through a computer screen.
What's going on?
And then they're in Minecraft world.
Because electricity hits the computer.
Yeah, definitely.
And they spill an orange drink.
Yep.
And then they get pulled into the computer.
Sure.
But I'm not a Minecraft fan.
And by the way, I know that Lego and Minecraft are not the same things.
Yes.
Just so people know that. But I think there's enough similarities there where they went, I know that Lego and Minecraft are not the same things. Yes. Just so people know that.
But I think there's enough similarities there where they went, okay, that works.
And kids love Minecraft as well, man.
They love it.
They use it as an educational resource.
Did you know that?
No.
Well, now you do.
Yeah.
So there you go.
About hell?
Did you know there's a hell in Minecraft?
Is there?
You can mine your way through.
What's down there?
Hell, like fire and that.
Big blocky demons?
I don't know if there's demons.
But there's like a fiery underworld.
Can you build your way to heaven? I don't think so.
Can you build your way to heaven in real life?
I guess if you do enough sweet podcast episodes
they let you in. It's considered
community service. I like that.
Okay, let's talk about the Godzilla
trailer, Mason. Okay, I'm ready. Second
Godzilla trailer. Definitely saw more of
Godzilla's than the first one trailer that is all right yes
because what's really happening is that you're hiding something out there
and it is going to send us back to the stone age brian cranston opening monologue in that
yep what an amazing actor he could sell the shit out of anything.
He really could, yeah.
That's a giant monster!
You fuck!
That's not what he says.
Should be, though.
They should add that to every trailer of anything.
So, yeah.
We got little glimpses of Godzilla,
which I think is the way to go.
The problem with the last Godzilla,
aside from everything associated with it,
they didn't
show Godzilla at all until he went in.
But I like that they're showing just snippets of him or you see his shadow or you see parts
of him.
You saw his giant foot.
You did see his giant foot, yes.
Monty Python style.
Yes.
That got me so excited.
Oh, no.
Anyway, let's not dwell again.
So, yeah.
Did you enjoy the trailer?
Yes.
He's the biggest Godzilla ever, apparently. Oh the trailer yes he's the biggest godzilla ever
apparently oh really biggest version okay getting bigger over the years yeah yeah like like remember
like if you watch one from the 50s like he'd be within like you know the rubber monster guy would
be within the buildings yeah like they'd be building sort of near his height or whatever
he is he is crushing it he's well well because there was a point where he had fought king kong
and king kong is not yeah yeah. King Kong could not fight this Godzilla.
No, that's true.
In any way.
Yeah, this one's like 150 metres tall or something like that, so...
Yeah.
Godzilla could...
Crush a heap of King Kongs.
That's right.
Even modern-day King Kong the Musical.
If he had a whole lot of King Kongs, he could just play, like, Barrel of Monkeys with them.
Oh, absolutely, yeah.
Just, like, string them up.
That's right.
But, yeah.
More monsters in this trailer, I don't know if you've noticed.
There's just snippets.
Do you mean the monsters that are humans?
No. That are monsters to him? maybe we're the real monsters are we
are real monsters i like that show yeah but uh yeah there's like a spidery kind of leg that
comes down at one point yeah there's a weird kind of flying one you know what's interesting about
this one is that godzilla's always been the result of nuclear testing yes or some sort of chemical
waste accident yeah this one it's revealed that the nuclear test nuclear testing. Yes. Or some sort of chemical waste accident.
Yeah.
But in this one, it's revealed that the nuclear tests in the 50s were an attempt to kill him.
Yeah.
That's amazing, isn't it?
That he already existed.
Yeah.
So where's he come from?
By Hiroshima, possibly?
Maybe.
Yeah.
Pacific Rim?
Yes.
How about the universe?
I mean, I remember the time when Pacific Rim was coming out and I was like, how's Godzilla
going to top this?
Do you remember that?
I do.
That's a long time.
It feels like a long time ago
but um
and I thought
how's Godzilla
going to beat this
but seeing these trailers
I think it could very well
Bryan Cranston
yeah I know
just chuck in a Bryan Cranston
yeah yeah
sick of this shit
whatever he says at the start
yeah
but uh
it's also
alluded to
if there's other
the government's stealing my thoughts
salad it just salad it yeah so yeah I'm there's other monsters. The government's stealing my thoughts.
Salad it.
Just salad it.
So yeah, I'm assuming the other monsters
Godzilla will then be
used to fight the
other monsters.
Because that's
generally what they
use him for, isn't it?
In the first few or
whatever, I haven't
seen any of the
Godzilla movies.
Because, and I know
I'll get hate for this,
they're mostly garbage.
No, that's fair.
I mean, you know,
they're fun and
whatever, whatever, but they're not...
He's not really used to fight the other monsters.
It's more that he is a benevolent force on some level.
So I don't know how they can...
I don't think they'll do that.
Yeah.
But if you recall in the Godzilla cartoon series...
No.
New Godzilla cartoon series...
Didn't say it.
He was imprinted on Matthew Broderick as his mother.
Yes, yes.
So he would sort of do what Matthew Broderick As his mother Yes So he would sort of do
What Matthew Broderick suggested
Yeah
So maybe they can do that
That's right
Maybe they can
Isn't that what happened
To Sarah Jessica Parker
Oh boy
This cartoon
Turned into Sex and the City
I was going to say
Please stop me
Go on yeah
What are you saying
The cartoon
So yeah
You think Matthew Broderick
Is going to control this
I think so yeah
That's what you're saying
Yeah actor Matthew Broderick
Great He just says Don't worry I've got this Everybody calm down So yeah, you think Matthew Broderick's going to control this? I think so, yeah. That's what you're saying. Yeah, actor Matthew Broderick. Great.
He says, don't worry, I've got this.
Everybody calm down.
Cranston, stop.
Calm yourself.
Resit your tinfoil hat and it'll be fine.
There's also a bit where they walk inside,
looks like the skeleton of an old Godzilla.
So maybe this is in Godzilla continuity.
Oh, maybe, yeah.
Probably not, though.
Yeah.
But hey, look, if you want to know more about Godzilla...
Listen to Godzilla.
He's such a charlatan.
Am I right?
But basically, yeah, if you want to know anything about Godzilla, Mason,
Cinemassacre, you know, the James Rolfe,
the angry video game nerd,
go to his website.
I've watched all his videos on Godzilla,
where he basically, he does a monster-a-thon Halloween thing,
everything, and one year he did all the Godzilla movies, where he basically he does a monster-a-thon Halloween thing everything
and one year
he did all the Godzilla movies
or at some point
he's reviewed all the Godzilla movies
so just go through
and check it out
he's great that guy
I'm a big fan of that guy
not just his angry video game
nerd stuff
because I think that kind of
gets a bit tired
after a while
not to say that it's not good
good on him
you were digging a hole
yeah
but I am looking forward
to his angry video game
nerd movie I do like his stuff you do all his stuff yeah he's great Good on him. You were digging a hole. Yeah. But I am looking forward to his Angry Video Game Nerd movie.
What am I talking about?
I do like his stuff.
You do?
Yeah.
He's great.
I'm glad you've worked this out on the podcast.
So yeah, check out cinemassacre.com for a whole lot of Godzilla stuff, I guess.
You know what we haven't seen yet?
Fire Breath.
No.
I think they'll do it.
Yeah, you'd hope so.
If he looks exactly like old Godzilla, but he's not breathing fire.
It's a nuclear breath, isn't it?
It's not like a fire breath.
It's more like a laser beam.
You know what's a good dragon movie, aside from Dragonheart 2?
Is it Reign of Fire?
Yeah.
Yeah, I enjoyed Reign of Fire.
Reign of Fire is incredibly underrated.
It's got your Jerry Butler.
It's got your Christian Bale.
It's got your dragon.
Was it Jerry Butler?
Yeah, it was his mate.
Wasn't it Matthew McConaughey wasn't it Matthew McConaughey
yeah Matthew McConaughey
is in it also
oh okay right
wow
wow
three for the price of one
two of the force
yes
of acting
so yeah
if you haven't seen
Rain On Me
or Rain Over Me
that's the one
with Adam Sandler
yes it is
the one with dragons
and Christian Bale
it's pretty good
check it out
Mason
Batman vs Superman news
okay
you're making a decision
not Shia LaBeouf news.
I've locked it in.
Batman vs. Superman news.
Now, I've written down exactly what has been said here, because I couldn't work out what exactly he meant by it.
Okay.
So, I want to ask you.
Okay, good.
Because you're a wise man beyond your years.
Thank you.
Yeah.
You look 50, but you act 90.
Thanks.
Thanks, pal.
And yet, my baseball cap turned all the way around.
I know.
I'm so, you I'm pretty cool.
Costume designer Michael Wilkinson, who's designing the costumes, says that he's...
Not just a costume designer off the street.
Unemployed costume designer Michael Wilkinson has some opinions.
He did American Hustle.
Oh yeah.
Which is similar, I guess, in costumes to Batman vs Superman.
He's tweaking the Superman costume.
He's following Amy Adams around.
I guess so, yeah.
Didn't even think of that.
Maybe he's the personal costume designer.
Yeah, makes sense.
He's going to tweak the Superman costume, he said.
I'm assuming they're going to lighten it?
Yeah, maybe, yeah.
I hope they do.
Yeah, the more comic book characters you introduce,
the more superheroes you introduce,
I guess the lighter
you have to go a little bit
yeah that's right
basically he was asked
more to distinguish them
than anything else
yeah well that's right
they can't all be grey
dead evil bullseye style
yeah
that's it
it was asked if it would be
realistic for Princess Diana
to fight crime
in what
we've typically seen her in
and he said this
absolutely
you remember I can't read
so if I make mistakes i'm ready i mean
you just have to look at the gladiators from ancient rome they did their thing with the
shield and everything yes it works for thorin 300 so let's see what happens is he saying that she's
not going to be armored with the shield or that she is i think he's what i think what he's saying
is that she's gonna be in like your traditional greek amazonian outfit okay like he's saying is that she's going to be in your traditional Greek Amazonian outfit.
Okay.
She's not going to be in pants.
Yeah, I hope not.
She's going to be in, I would say...
The metal skirt?
I would say much like the classic Wonder Woman kind of one-piece thing with maybe the skirt thing.
Yeah.
Maybe a sword.
Yeah.
I want to see a shield.
Oh, well.
I like the shield.
Why don't you watch Captain America and the Winter Soldier then?
You love shields so much.
Why don't you watch Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.?
You love shields so much.
I don't love shields that much.
Nobody does.
Is that show?
That's still gold, isn't it?
Who knows?
I think it's still on hiatus.
It's on hiatus, yeah.
Because Skye got shot.
Spoiler alert.
But they put her in a thing that keeps her alive.
Which one's that?
The girl.
Oh.
Hacker.
Oh, right. Goodacker. Oh, right.
Good show.
Yeah, great.
Yeah.
So what I'm saying is I think she's going to be in classic Wonder Woman outfits.
Okay, cool.
It'd be weird, too, if they put her in pants and a...
That'd be very strange, yeah.
I mean, I think they do it a lot of times in cartoons because it's easy to animate.
Yeah.
But I don't know.
Or they like the look or whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
Or it doesn't look as ridiculous on a cartoon than it does on a real human person.
Very true.
But when it says, yeah, it works for Thorin 300,
those have set in very distinct time periods.
So that's what kind of threw me.
Right.
It's kind of like, well, 300's from the past,
so that's why that works.
And Thor's from space or whatever.
But that's now.
Yeah, he's wearing a space costume.
I think what he's saying is that, yeah,
she'll be in somewhat period costume and not modern day.
Cool.
Happy with that. Yeah, totally. Great. Now, Goth period costume and not modern day. Cool. Happy with that.
Yeah, totally.
Great.
Now, Gotham News, Mason.
Here we go.
We love it.
Also, thanks to all the listeners who participated in Mackenzie Mustache.
Hashtag Mackenzie Mustache.
I've got some shout-outs which I can get to.
Or do you like me to do them before the Gotham News?
Nah, do Gotham News.
So basically, Gotham, apparently the pilot episode, there's a whole lot of potential spoilers online for what's going to happen in the first episode.
I'll give a little bit away Mason because I know you love spoilers
I do love spoilers
so basically
helping me in my life
minor minor spoilers
this by the way
this seems to be taken
a lot from Batman Earth 1
the comic as well
okay yeah
was it Batman Earth 1
no I think it's the new Batman
the new 52 Batman
anyway so
the first episode
is going to start with
Gordon being given a tour
of Gotham
and that's when you run into a whole lot of different characters like your Edward Nygma and whatever Anyway, so the first episode is going to start with Gordon being given a tour of Gotham.
And that's when you run into a whole lot of different characters.
Like your Edward Nygma and whatever.
One of them is a 14-year-old Selina Kyle.
Okay.
So, I think that's a good way to start.
Yeah, yeah.
That tour of the city.
When you say a tour, you mean a little bus?
A little bus.
A little double-decker bus.
And he's on the top and he's got his camera around his neck and his little hat.
Yeah.
And there's a jaunty Gotham song in the style of New York.
New York, it's a wonderful town, you know?
Exactly.
Great.
So, yeah.
And he's just going to meet them?
They're just going to be hanging out on street corners or something?
Well, I assume what it's going to be, and this is me guessing.
Maybe it's like a training day kind of thing.
Yeah, like he's with Bullock, Harvey Bullock.
And Harvey Bullock's like, you know, we've got to go to this and we've got to pick this
up and we've got to go and see this person about this, and whatever.
This is, you know, whatever.
So, yeah, that's what I think it'll be.
Okay.
Which I think is a good way to open the series.
That'll work, yeah, totally.
Yeah.
All right, Mason.
Mackenzie Mustache has been an amazing success yet again.
I think so.
So much so that we, I think, have scared Benjamin Mackenzie off Twitter.
I may be wrong, but he hasn't tweeted a single thing the entire week.
I know, because I've been watching.
Has he tweeted in the previous week?
Yes.
Did he tweet things?
Wow.
Do you think that...
Wow.
Look, it would be...
It could be a coincidence.
It could be a coincidence.
He might be going underground and growing a mustache for us.
And he'd be like, at the end of the week, he'd be like, surprise, fools.
I would love that.
That'd be great, wouldn't it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's probably unrelated that he's not on Twitter, though, realistically.
He's probably filming something.
Yeah, he probably is.
But basically, all those people who hashtag McKenzie Mustache, very successful with the compliments.
People were firing complimentating left, right, and center.
Absolutely.
You've been working out.
Yeah, that's it.
You know what would look great?
Mustache.
Yeah, exactly.
A few shout-outs.
Trevor Onyango.
Yeah, he was very persistent and hilarious. Absolutely. I know you saw a few of his... I believe in Trevor Onygo. Yeah, he was very persistent and hilarious.
Absolutely.
I know you saw a few of his...
I believe in Trevor Onyanggo.
Yeah, that's right.
That was great.
That made me laugh.
Aaron Mitten.
Absolutely.
Who's just a Mitten.
A stalwart.
A misestablished fan of the show.
He was really good as well.
A guy called Icebat did a really good Photoshop.
Oh, yes.
With a moustache.
Like, not a paint...
Not an MS Paint job.
Like, it looked legitimate.
A paint job will cost you extra.
That's right.
On the streets of Gotham.
That's it.
So, yeah,
that were really,
that were a few standout ones.
There's one I'm going to say,
there's one I'm going to say
maybe possibly took it
a little too far.
Yes.
This isn't,
I don't want this person
to take this as an insult.
Maybe leave the name out there.
Okay, fine.
The person said,
I swear to God,
I will murder you
unless you grow a moustache. This did make me laugh, to be fair. The person said... I swear to God I will murder you unless you grow a mustache.
This did make me laugh,
to be fair.
But he said,
asked Benjamin McKenzie to make my dream come true,
me,
because I'm a cancer-stricken
Australian boy.
Oh.
So...
I don't get it.
Okay, I wasn't going to tell you
until after,
but there's some
unfortunate news.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
So maybe... I'm a 12-year-old boy and I have cancer. Yeah, that's both of those things. Oh, shit. Yeah. So maybe...
I'm a 12-year-old boy and I have cancer.
Yeah, that's both of those things.
God damn it.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
Possibly too far.
You can't get into R-rated movies anymore.
Oh, damn it.
Possibly too far, that one?
Nah.
All's fair on Twitter, I say.
Yeah, you're right.
Twitter's for threats and lies.
Yeah.
And I did laugh for an uncomfortably long time
when I read that.
That's good. I imagine he laughed as well. Yeah. I I did laugh for an uncomfortably long time. Well, then it's good.
I imagine he laughed as well.
Yeah.
I bet he did.
So, yeah.
Basically, though, we've thought of a strategy for this week, specifically you.
We're going to lay off Mackenzie Mustache for a week.
Take a week off, yeah.
Lay low.
Yeah, that's right.
See what he does.
See what he does.
See if he makes the first move.
Next week.
Nail him.
Hit him again.
Yeah, we're going to hit him again.
Yeah.
And I've got another strategy for
next week which I
will unveil
oh I love it
at a later date
so this week
Mackenzie mustache
lay low
just keep it down
just that's right
real cool
maybe just maybe
put some stuff in
your drafts folder
that's right yeah
if you think it's
something absolutely
yeah chuck it in
there let him think
that we've given up
yeah but we'll
never give up
he'll give up first.
He will quit Gotham before we give up.
All right, Mason.
Yes.
Have you been...
We are going to talk about this next week.
Uh-huh.
The 300 Rides of an Empire film.
We have not seen this movie yet.
No.
Because just like everybody at home, we're just regular dudes.
Just regular Joes.
Put on our golden pants one leg at a time.
Button up that
diamond fly.
But yeah, basically
300's out next week.
We're going to watch it
on Thursday.
You're off work at the
moment, aren't you?
I'm on holidays.
So you said there's no
excuse for you not to
see it.
I have to see all this
terrible, terrible
pop culture detritus.
That's what I have to do
because I'm committed
to this.
It's not going to be great.
Are you looking forward
to 300 Rise of an Empire though?
I'm not.
No.
But I guess because I'm on holiday.
I admire your honesty.
Yeah, it'll be fine.
And I admire you being on holiday.
Yeah, it's good isn't it?
I admire both of those things.
How do you think it's looking though?
You've only seen the one trailer,
is that right?
Yep.
Yeah.
It's looking more of the same.
Yeah, pretty much.
I watched,
there's a whole lot of clips
released this week. Check them out. Are there any crazy monster people? Yeah, sort of. There's looking more of the same. Yeah, pretty much. I watched, there's a whole lot of clips released this week.
Check them out at... Are there any crazy monster people?
Well, yeah, sort of.
There's a few kind of magical elements.
I'm back on board.
Didn't see any monsters per se.
Right.
But that Hunchback's back.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The Hunchback back.
Sure, absolutely.
And a whole bunch of other stuff, I'd imagine.
That's the new dance craze that's sweeping the nation.
The Hunchback back.
That's right.
The thing is, right, in the first one, it's this kind of pseudo fantasy world yeah and the reason it works because even though it's supposed to be historical it's a retelling it's a retelling
because david wenham is telling that story right but in this one i don't know if anybody's actually
telling the story i think queen gorgo is telling the story lena heady yep he's telling the story
but she's not the david wenham kind of over-the-top storyteller.
So, like,
they're going to tell
Xerxes' origins in it.
And from what I've seen,
he is imbued with magical powers
and he becomes a giant gold man
and whatever.
Ooh.
But that's not...
I'm like,
is it a magical world
or is it not?
I'm confused.
I'm back on board.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, I'm excited now.
So, okay.
I'm not going to watch
any of the trailers because I don't want to know how gold he is. I don back on board. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Okay, I'm excited now. I'm not going to watch any of the trailers because I don't want to know how
gold he is. I don't want to know
if his goldness compares to
the goldness of my trousers.
But I'm back. I'm going to watch
the Aladdin's film.
So you're back on board from just these few
I just say magic and you're in.
Weird, right? Yeah.
Does anybody throw a fireball? I hope so.
There's a lot of
there's a lot of kind of
looks like the bloom
is turned really high up
as well
from the clips I've watched
I'm like maybe it's my screen
but I was like
this is really
uncomfortably bright
right
like just really
kind of washed out
probably to conceal
that the muscles
aren't as good
probably right
well they're not supposed
to be as muscular
because they're Athenians
they're not 300
also if David Wenham survived in the first 300 should they call that movie 299
that's a legitimate question though no because they killed him immediately after the film
they're like look that wasn't a very good story a lot of yeah. Yeah. They stung him with a giant scorpion.
They sure did.
Yeah.
So, David Wenham's in this one, though.
Oh, okay.
But the clip that I saw of him, he doesn't have an eye patch.
You know how he loses an eye?
Yep.
So, I'm assuming maybe he's in a flashback or something.
Yeah.
And he's got those sweet Wenham abs back.
Ooh.
So, yeah.
That's right.
So, yeah.
Were you a fan of the first though?
It's okay.
I haven't gone back to it.
I think I'm going to watch it again this week.
You can watch it again as well because you've got so much time on your hands now.
I don't want to though.
You really would not.
It doesn't interest you.
Michael Fassbender's in it.
No.
Jake Gyllenhaal's in it.
No.
Tobey Maguire's in it.
Oh.
Those second two aren't in it.
Just so you know.
Okay.
But no, I think I'm going to re-watch it this week all right because i think it's let me know how that goes yeah there's a lot
of things kind of emulated 300 since 300 so when i when i stayed the trailer for the new 300 when i
saw it i was like yeah we've seen a lot of this yeah in between now and then haven't we yeah yeah
but it's the number 23 yes um frank miller's things The spirit. I was just trying to think of things with numbers in the title.
Okay, right.
Ocean's 13.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Good, good reference.
Lucky number, Slevin.
Yep, good.
Which I think was before.
Also, Slevin is not a number.
No, it is.
It is?
Okay.
So, yeah, are you a fan of the comic, though?
300, not really, no.
No, me neither.
I read it and I'm like, this isn't that...
Frank Miller crazy period. Yeah. It's not great, is it, no. No, me neither. I read it and I'm like, this isn't that... Frank Miller crazy period.
Yeah.
It's not great, is it?
No.
So, you know.
All right.
But yeah, look,
that being said,
I'm really looking forward to it.
I've also got written here,
should it be called 299?
Because I thought of that joke
and I thought...
And then there's
the stage direction
and it's...
the entire audience
laughs for 10 minutes.
That's right, yeah.
So, yeah,
I think we don't really have anything else to say about 300, do we? No, that'll do. Yeah, that'll do minutes. That's right. Yeah. So yeah, I think we don't really
have anything else to say about 300, do we? No, that'll do it. Yeah, that'll do it. So
yeah. Well, Mason, before we leave, we've got a few segments left. First one being shout
outs. Yes. Last week we had zero shout outs. Not enough shout outs. No, no. This week we
have many shout outs. Sounds like too many shout outs, but let's see how we go. I agree.
I might have to start culling the shout outs at some point. I don't want to do that. So
please send shout outs anyway, regardless.
When people send me emails for shoutouts, I generally don't reply because I want them
to be surprised.
Oh.
So if I don't reply to you, it's not because I haven't read it.
It might be, certainly.
Or he doesn't like you.
Yeah, that's right.
It could actually be those things.
But you'll never know until it gets read out.
Or not.
Oh.
So yeah, first one is Diego Castro.
He's got a page on Facebook called The General Page of Nerdiness.
Oh.
And it's relatively new and he's already got 1,500 likes.
And he puts a whole lot of pop culture and movies and comics and all sorts of television stuff up on there.
I'm going to get on that.
Yeah, get on that.
I haven't liked it yet for some reason, but I checked it out.
Because you're a horrible man.
Yeah, I know.
And it's great.
So I will like it.
Yeah.
That being said, I'm kind of annoyed That he's got more likes
On his Facebook page
Than we do
We don't put
Do we put anything
On the Facebook page
On the Weekly Planet one
When I say we
I mean you
I knew what you meant
Yeah
I just put the podcast
Oh okay right
And that's it
But um
Yeah we've got followers
Sure
We should put photos
Of like cute puppies
And stuff
Oh yeah
Like Captain America
Mask
And look if you like
Puppies and
Comics and stuff Patriot, yeah. Like Captain America masks. Look, if you like puppies and comics and stuff.
Patriotism.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, yeah, sure.
My Facebook page has a little bit more, which I also put everything on.
Love it.
But not as many as this guy.
Shout out.
Crushing us.
So, yeah, go like that page.
I seriously highly recommend it.
This next one's from Nolan Bath.
He's 16 from Syracuse in a place.
Yeah, I know where it is. You know where it is, do you? Yeah. I don't. He's 16 from Syracuse in a place. Yeah, I know where it is. You know where it is,
do you? Yeah. I don't. He's an aspiring film director. He's obsessed with film and comic
books and some of his favourite movies are. Would you like me to list them? Yes. The Avengers,
Lord of the Rings trilogy, 500 Days of Summer, About Time. Great movie, About Time. The Graduate,
which I haven't seen. Alien and Etc. Etc. I assume he means all the Alien films, including
Alien vs. Predator. And two.
And two, yes. His favourite
comic book characters are Hellboy, Spawn,
John Constantine, Nightcrawler, Batman, Superman,
Deadpool, Wolverine and many more.
So he kind of likes some of the
traditional ones, but he's also got some oddball ones
in there as well, which is great. That's a good range.
Long story short, he was hoping to have a shout out
on the next podcast. I say no. Let's just leave it at long story short he was hoping to have a shout out on the next podcast I say no
let's just leave it at that
yeah
nah give him a shout out
thanks for emailing Nolan
we appreciate it
all those things sound great
good luck with the
the film directing
I wonder what kind of films
that's a good question
yeah
you should get back to us
what do you think would be
the
what's some
as people who are not filmmakers
let's give him some advice
I think because he likes 500 Days of Summer some sort of indie film yeah As people who are not filmmakers, let's give him some advice.
I think, because he likes 500 Days of Summer, some sort of indie film.
Yeah.
Start indie and then go into something else.
Yeah.
Is that what you're saying?
I told you my scenario.
What's that? If I were a movie producer, I would not be a movie producer very long because what I would do is one film a year,
is one film a year i would produce a film where all the trailers and all the promotional shots and all the like all the cast interviews and stuff like that we all the leaked clips
make out like it's a certain type of film and then you go into the film and then 10 minutes in it
switches genre like so to be like like a real like it looks like a real quirky like kind of
indie comedy you know it's like you know one of It's like a girl and she's trying to make it in the big city
and it's New York in the winter
and she's hopping around putting her boots on
and then she goes out in New York
and she has the quirky best friend and they go to work.
And then the boss is like,
you've got to go down to the accounting
and meet the new guy down there.
And she goes down and it's like Mark Ruffalo or whatever.
And he's like,
you know,
he's a real prick
or whatever.
They don't get along.
Yeah, they don't get along
and she's like,
oh, this guy,
I hate him so much.
Ooh, you know.
You know sparks are going to fly
or whatever, right?
And in the trailer
they're like,
you know,
they're having office pranks
and they're doing all this
so that, you know,
people are running
into filing cabinets
and then they like,
they have to work late one night
and, you know, there's all kinds of...
Like Salisbury Hill by Peter Gabriel.
Yeah.
All that sort of stuff.
And then you see them holding hands or whatever.
They're having some moments or whatever.
But then the movie's on, right?
And she shows up to work and blah, blah, blah.
And she meets the accountant
and she comes back to her desk.
She's like, oh, I can't stand that and then like like a like a mailman delivers something like a
box to her desk and she's like what's this well come on don't get any worse and she opens it up
and it's like her best friend's like severed head the box and it's just filled with blood and
and it just dwells on it like the camera just dwells on it like you think there's going to be a joke but there's no joke and then what happens is it's just this just this blood-soaked horror film for the
rest just just and i'm not even into these kind of films but just like limbs are getting chopped
off and it's just a terrifying experience for everyone surprise how do you like that i love it
yeah are you are you sold on it being that particular genre?
No, it could be anything.
So it could be like all of a sudden they get sucked into a computer world.
Yes.
Or whatever.
Absolutely, yeah.
So it's one thing, usually a romantic comedy kind of thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then it becomes something entirely different.
Yes.
I don't...
I think that could absolutely work.
I think...
But just the once.
No, no.
I mean, because then it would get to a point where people would know
these are the films that you make.
So they go in thinking,
what is this going to turn out to be?
But I don't want to sharm-a-larn it.
Yeah, you're right.
You're right.
I don't want to be a one-trick pony.
Yeah, good point.
Also, they'll never give me that job.
It's a pipe dream.
Maybe Nolan Bath can do that.
Absolutely.
I hope so.
Don't do that, by the way.
No, that's our idea.
We've mailed it to ourselves.
I just meant because we won't get very far.
No, that's true, yeah.
So yeah, I don't know.
Study up, I guess, on film.
Yeah.
Get out there and make it, I think, is the big thing as well.
I think that's the key now.
And you've got to start because initially, everything you do initially is terrible.
Even though if you don't know it's terrible, you look back and it is terrible.
But you've got to go through that phase yeah the trial and error where everything's terrible
and you think it's great you're gonna learn the technical standpoint exactly so don't guess get
don't get disheartened keep your first videos your first few were just audio
well they didn't make any sense just me going
yeah you've seen them yeah yeah if you watch my videos, and I'm not a director in any sense, they're horrible.
I mean, I still think I've got a long way to go, because, well, not really.
It's movie news.
How hard is it, really?
You know?
But, yeah.
It's getting you to get better.
So, I'd say just practice.
Read up.
Practice.
Get out there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do it.
Alex Damasceno.
Now, he's from Brazil, I believe.
Ooh.
Well, possibly not, but the thing he sent is from Brazil.
He's not in this room right now, certainly.
No, that's right.
May as well be a billion miles away.
He's definitely not from this room.
That we know.
Yeah.
He sent a picture courtesy of Warner Brothers Brazil,
which is called The Best of Warner Brothers Two Movies.
That's what it's translated to.
And basically, it's just a Catwoman Green Lantern double pack Blu-ray.
Love it.
And the title translates to The Best of Warner Brothers Two Movies.
Incorrect.
And the way it was posted online was Blu-ray double feature from hell.
So I thought that was really, really amusing.
I mean, I guess they know they're crap, so they're just like, just chucking them together.
Do you think they should cross over just the really bad stuff?
Yeah, why not?
Who cares?
Exactly.
Call it like the Z-listers.
Yeah.
Just like Catwoman, Green Lantern, team them up.
Yeah.
Do you remember we were on that hunt one time?
Because you go to a supermarket here, and it might be the same overseas,
but they've got like a triple pack DVD.
And the first two make sense.
Like there might be transporter one, transporter two.
And then the third one's like meet the fuckers.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it's like they don't go together.
And I've always been on a mission to find the weirdest one possible.
And I remember I saw one once, but I didn't have my phone.
I didn't take a picture. And I can't remember what it was. And I've never found one once, but I didn't have my phone. I didn't take a picture.
I can't remember what it was
and I've never found something weirder.
Wow.
That's great.
Alex says something else though, Mason.
Yes.
And I wanted to throw this open to the people and to you.
He also recommends in the podcast
that we use background music
because sometimes when there's a silence,
he's terrified that we've both died.
That's right.
And that his players stopped or whatever.
Or something like that.
What do you think about background music in podcasts?
I think we should start it at level 10 volume, like next week.
Yep.
And then ramp it down until the complaint letters stop.
And then we'll find a good level.
So you want to do the background music?
No.
Okay.
Maybe we'll try it.
I'm not a fan of it in podcasts.
I can sometimes find it distracting.
But I'm open to doing it if people are up for it.
Also, I'm learning the mandolin, so if we could...
Can you mandolin and podcast at the same time?
I'd like to think so, yeah.
Okay, good.
So yeah, I'm not saying no.
I'm saying let's chuck it out there.
Yeah.
But probably not.
Hey, let me check.
Moment of silence.
Yeah, that'd work.
Totally.
Yeah.
I just can't think...
The real problem with it is that I can't think of any kind of piece of music
that would blend in enough that you wouldn't notice it.
Because otherwise people would be like,
why are you playing that fucking song for an hour or whatever?
But yeah, I know.
Open to it, as I said.
Or Bangarang by Skrillex.
Oh, yeah.
That's a good one.
Ziggy Fana from Iceland.
He sent us an email.
Iceland, isn't that great?
I was going to say it.
All over the place.
I know, right?
You know what I learnt about Iceland?
It's not as icy as you'd think?
Yeah.
From The Mighty Ducks 2.
I don't know whether this is true.
They say Greenland is more icy
and Iceland is more greeny.
Yes, correct.
So there you go.
I don't know whether that's true.
Maybe he can email us back.
Or maybe we could look it up.
Maybe he'll be killed in an ice flow.
I hope not.
No, it won't happen.
It'll be fine.
Because it's all...
It's quite greeny out there.
It's quite so green.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He used to be a radio host, which is great.
Oh, he's going to criticise us, isn't he?
That's what he said.
Yeah.
The next is just a barrage of insults.
No, he said, I'll be thinking about starting my own podcast someday.
Yeah, absolutely.
Go for it. so he also sent through
and I gotta send these to you
he sent us extreme
comic book 90s versions
that he'd found online
so like there's like
extreme Thor
extreme Wolverine
or whatever
I love extreme stuff
they're great
I'll look through them
they're really terrific
yeah yeah
so maybe I'll put them
on Twitter or whatever
yeah
but I'll show you those as well
I love extreme
I know you do
that was the era
to live
it sure was the peak of live. It sure was.
The peak of society was 99 as we've established.
Yeah, that's what it was, yeah.
So, yeah, there you go.
Thanks, Ziggy.
Really appreciate it.
Absolutely, thank you.
Yeah.
Tristan Leck.
The 26th of February is his birthday, and the only gift he requests is for me to tell
you that you're a son of a bitch.
Okay, go for it.
I'm ready.
You're a real son of a bitch, Mason.
What do you think of that? Happy birthday, Tristan.. I'm ready. You're a real son of a bitch, Mason. What do you think of that?
Happy birthday, Tristan.
It's for a good cause.
I feel like I could have sold that better.
You want to do it again?
You're a real son of a bitch.
Do it like Bryan Cranston would do it.
There's a monster! You're a son of a bitch!
There we go. Great. Alright, happy birthday.
Thanks, Tristan.
Jonathan Boozer. B-O-O-Z-E-R. That sounds right. All right. Happy birthday. Thanks, Tristan. Jonathan Boozer.
B-O-O-Z-E-R.
That sounds right.
Sounds right?
Sounds right?
Yeah.
He actually sent us some free comics in Dropbox.
A Savage Hawkman and Justice League, which I've yet to read, but I've downloaded them.
I'll send them to you as well.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I know, right?
What a great bloke.
What a booze.
Good on him. I've kind of flicked through and they look really good, but I haven't had a chance to
read them, but I will.
That will also, let's chuck those in a what we read and what we're going to read,
because you said people throw in what you're reading and we'll include it.
We are done going to read them.
That's right.
Check out Savage Hawkman and whatever version of that Justice League is.
I can't remember.
Is it Justice League 3000?
Can't remember.
Okay.
Yeah, I feel bad.
Anyway, he also read the Thanos Imperative graphic novel,
which is great.
And he said also, if you like the New 52 Aquaman, then definitely read the new 52 Savage Hawkman.
Where they made Hawkman way more badass.
Love it.
Badass?
Badass?
For me, I can't say it like that.
Say it like Bryan Cranston.
You're a monster!
No.
Badass.
Badass?
We say badass.
We do, yeah.
That's what I say.
I love it.
Yeah. This city's being
Monsters of Monster
Do you want to do it?
I'll think of something good
Okay good
Yeah so
Just like Aquaman
So you know the new Aquaman
Is pretty cool
Yeah
Apparently it's the one
In that vein
Absolutely love it
You also said
He takes issue with the movie
Man of Steel
Okay I'm ready
I'm ready to fight
I'm ready to fight.
I'm ready to have an online feud.
I think he's got a good point. Take your best shots.
He's got a good point.
He says that if there was a seasoned Batman in this world that existed,
why was he sitting around when this happened and not infiltrating the ship or something?
Ah, that's a really good point.
Yeah.
Go on, attack him.
Bryan Cranston style. Yeah, but I mean, seasoned Batman probably hasn't encountered any outer space threats
yet.
Probably not.
Like, seasoned, he'd probably have the jet and he'd have the car and he'd have the boat.
And the grey in his stubble.
Yeah, he'd have the grey in his stubble, which you love.
Yeah.
But I don't think he'd have a space shuttle yet.
Fair enough.
Well.
Maybe after this.
Yeah.
Maybe after this.
A bit of Crash Kryptonian technology.
That's it.
Make his own little bat space shuttle. Yeah. Thank you, Jonathan. Well. Maybe after this. Yeah. A bit of Crash Kryptonian technology. That's it. Make his own little bat space shuttle.
Yeah.
Thank you, Jonathan.
Yeah.
I think Mason has proven beyond a doubt that he's the best comic book guy.
Yes.
So Wade Reese also emailed.
He said, do you think there'll ever be a Weekly Planet movie on the big screen?
I'm going to say a definitive no, because why would that be ever a thing?
I'm going to say definitive yes, because you can't tell me what to do. I'm out. If there's a movie, I'm gonna say the definitive no because why would that be everything I'm gonna say definitive yes because you can't tell me what to do I'm
out if there's a movie I'm out you have to get somebody else I'm gonna get Adam
Driver how do you like that you know why cuz he's average looking how do you like
that buddy oh yeah do you think he's got the nuance to play me I kind of say he
was really good that's true I don only thing I do is I shout.
And I have personal vendettas.
That's kind of what I do.
He can do that, I think.
And then I plead for calm if there's a comic book movie freakout.
Those are kind of my things that I do.
Yeah.
So I'm kind of all over the shop.
I think he could do that.
I think he nailed that, yeah.
There you go.
Sure.
I mean, I don't know why that would ever be a movie.
Yeah, but you know.
Mark Maron has a TV series now. Does he? Shoot for the Stars. We could get a TV series. I mean, I don't know why that would ever be a movie. Yeah, but you know, Mark Maron has a TV series now.
Does he?
Shoot for the stars.
We could get a TV series.
I think so, yeah.
We're never getting a TV series.
We could both be the new Doctor Who.
I think that's probably...
We can shoot for that, right?
Jesse Will...
And you'll be excited about it and I'll be largely ambivalent.
And I'll only show up every four or five episodes.
Jesse Wheeler wants a shout out for no reason.
Done. I admire his moxie yeah
good on your wheeler you did it yeah so yeah uh basically he also suggested for a podcast which i
think we should do uh comic book movies not based on superheroes love it you know like your road to
perdition yeah your history of violence your ghost world your ghost ghost... Ghost Rider. Yes, ghost with Patrick Swayze. Yeah, ghost...
Absolutely, yeah.
Yeah.
Ghost Rider.
Ghost of Mars.
Ghost Dad with Bill Cosby.
We should do a ghost episode.
Oh, yeah.
Ghost Busters, I guess.
Ghost Busters.
Oh.
It's got to say.
Quick, change the topic.
Another shout out.
Quickly.
All right.
Another thing was that this happened last week, and this was your mistake.
Oh.
I'm going to view people about this, including Courtney Heck, a good friend of the show Courtney
Heck.
Hey, Courtney.
You remember Courtney.
Yes.
She showed all her friends when we talked about it, and you called them all nerds.
Or her a nerd, or I called them dickheads.
Look, everybody listening is a nerd.
I just...
Let you throw that out there.
I'm putting it out there.
Sure.
You said that Despicable Me 2 was a Pixar movie.
Is it a DreamWorks film?
It's a DreamWorks film.
I should have known because they have DreamWorks face.
That's true.
They do have DreamWorks face.
Yeah, it's got DreamWorks face, which is that weird cockeyed look where you're like,
ooh, am I having fun?
I'm quite bewildered, but I'm having fun.
That's it.
So there you go.
I'm sorry.
I apologise for besmirching the name of Pixar.
Yeah.
With its...
Despicable Me 2 is good, right?
I don't know.
I'm saying it. No idea. But the thing is, well, I remember at the time that was a mistake, but I thought it the name of Pixar yeah with it Despicable Me 2 is good right I haven't seen it
no idea
but I um
the thing is
well I remember the time
that was a mistake
but I thought
it was a funny joke
that you made
so I just let it ride
why derail the joke Mason
thank you
when I could let it ride
and then bring it up next week
and embarrass me
in front of all my friends
oh there's one on Twitter
I just got to pull up
that I realised
I haven't put in here
can you just give me
one minute
yes
I'm glad you brought that Why not on Twitter? I just got a pull-up that I realised I haven't put in here. Can you just give me one minute? Yes.
I'm glad you brought that.
Second verse, same as the first.
A little bit louder and a little bit worse.
Here we go.
Okay.
Well done.
Seamless.
I was going to edit that out, but now I've got to.
Don't do it.
Joel King says, can you guys commemorate my life in the weekly podcast?
I think it seems more epic that way.
Love you guys.
First of all, I hope you're not dying, Joel King.
Also, I agree.
Sure.
He sure liked movies, didn't he?
No, I think it says commentate, not commemorate.
I don't think he's dying.
I think it says. I think he means commentate his daily life
you did say commentate
you're right
I know you're
anyway
tell you what
just put up a little clip of you on YouTube
just doing something
just hanging out
and we'll put a little commentary track over top of that
be like
that's a way to make that sandwich
or whatever
yeah
I can't believe I read that as commemorate.
I can believe that you misread something.
You are a son of a bitch, Mason.
I know.
That's two for the price of one.
Two for the price of one there.
Happy birthday, Tristan.
Max Palombella from London.
I fucking love London.
You know what the thing about London is?
Yes.
London's great.
I used to live in London. You know that? Fish and chips. Fish and chips, yeah. The problem is, if I fucking love London you know what the thing about London is London's great I used to live in London
you know that
fish and chips
yeah
the problem is
if I lived in London
London Tower Guards
yeah
for too long
Chavs
Chavs yeah
I would die
yeah
because the amount of drinking
and debaucheries
and what not
yeah
it's uh
I love London
but it would kill me
last night I had a
deep fried Mars bar
oh yeah
and it was great
but
for a second
I think my heart stopped
so I think you're right
if I went to the land
of greasy fried everything
I would not know
where to stop
it's like you know
when you keep feeding a dog
it just keeps eating
it just keeps going
exactly
I would just keep eating
fried things
until I exploded
I went to London
a few years ago
only for a month
so I was like
cool
it was for a wedding
and I was like I'll get super fit before I go was like cool it was for a wedding and i was like
i'll get super fit before i go because i know what's going to happen and i got there and then
you immediately stop working out or running or whatever and then i just drank heavily for three
weeks these just got way out of hand anyway it got to about week three and i was out and i'm having
a good time or whatever and then my body just shut down just went nah stop And I just like shut down
I had to go home
Wasn't drunk
It was like 9 o'clock
They just went you fucking idiot
Take yourself home
So I did
And then yeah
And then when you come back to Australia
You gotta get you know
Back into the healthy again
And that's incredibly painful
Yeah
It's so painful
So just be either really healthy or really unhealthy.
Don't jump in between.
Yeah, no middle ground.
No middle ground.
Don't do that.
Yeah.
Basically, he had things to say, though, other than me ranting about London.
Oh, that's right.
You like London, right?
Yes.
Yeah.
Thoughts on the new 52 City of Ours, Court of Ours storyline.
Well, you'd love it.
I love it, yeah.
You'd love it.
If you haven't read it yet.
I haven't read it yet.
We've got copies right there in the other room.
I'll give them to you.
Oh, thank you.
Yeah.
You have to give them back, though.
In mint condition.
They're worth a lot of money.
But they're not in mint condition now.
Like, they've got, like,
dog bites and stuff in them.
This smith in fish and chips
from London.
Yeah, that's right.
You weren't even there
when you bought them.
I don't understand.
You had grease imported
from London
and you covered them.
You're a mean man
he also said
do you think
the Max Landis
death and return
of Superman
would work as a film
apart from the
Mon-El Zod twist
have you watched
that video
yes
yeah
what do you think
I think it would
work perfectly
I think it would
be an excellent
Justice League movie
even the Mon-El Zod twist
but you couldn't
do it now because Zod's already I was going to say you'd need another reboot yeah give it a couple more years I think it would be an excellent Justice League movie. Even the Mon-El Zod twist. You couldn't do it now because Zod's already exist.
I was going to say you'd need another reboot.
Give it a couple more years, I think we can do it again.
Once they've driven this one
to the ground. That's right. I think that's a
great comic book storyline
or potential movie storyline.
Which we'll never see. Precisely, yes.
Absolutely, Justin. I do think
that would be good. Maybe they can animate it? Yeah.
One more shout out, Mason. I'm think that would be good. Maybe they can animate it? Yeah. Yeah, okay. One more shout-out, Mason.
I'm ready.
Justin Hayden from Tennessee.
Oh.
He said he didn't ask for a shout-out,
but I'm giving him a shout-out anyway.
What if he doesn't want a shout-out?
Well, too bad.
Oh.
Nah, basically he said he and his wife
are four weeks out from having a baby.
Oh, congratulations.
Very exciting, yeah.
And basically...
Boy or girl, do we know?
Are we going to be a surprise? Are we going to be a surprise? It's a baby. Oh, congratulations. Very exciting, yeah. And basically... Boy or girl, do we know we're going to be a surprise?
Are we going to be a surprise?
It's a surprise. For us.
Yeah. Sure. And he can see himself
staying up late with a baby, you know,
rocking it to sleep and listening to our podcast.
Oh, that's lovely. Isn't that really nice? That's lovely.
I saw that, warmed my heart. Yeah.
Warmed my London damaged heart.
I think maybe you're going to have to get the kid used to
Bryan Cranston yelling.
Yeah.
That might.
That's it, yeah.
Maybe if you just have him listen to this episode and then take him to Godzilla.
Yeah.
Everything will be fine, yeah.
That's right.
Just get him prepped.
It's going to be great.
Get him, yeah.
Get him ready.
So isn't that a really nice thing to say?
That's lovely, yes.
He also, Justin Hayden.
Also, what he might be saying is that we're quite boring and that we'll lull the child to sleep.
I'll take that.
Yeah, it's fine.
But Justin Hayden's email also leads us into
what we read and what we're going to read for this week, Mason.
I think we need a theme song for that.
I agree.
Anybody out there, do a theme song
or Mason's going to sing one next week.
I'm ready.
Basically...
It might be a rap as well.
I hope so.
You to lay down
like a mid-90s beat.
Yeah.
And then.
That's why you've been
wearing the backwards hat.
That's great.
It all comes together.
Justin Hayden
recommended Wake.
Scott Snyder
who wrote the New 52.
He's writing the New 52
Batman.
It's called The Wake
or Wake.
I can't remember.
It's one of those two.
Right.
It's basically about
an underwater
kind of monster-ish kind of story. But it's more to it than that. It's a post Wake or Wake. I can't remember. It's one of those two. Right. It's basically about an underwater kind of monster-ish kind of story.
But it's more to it than that.
It's a post-apocalyptic future.
And it's kind of a bit like Aliens in the Ocean, a bit mixed with Waterworld.
And it's in two volumes.
Those are all my favorite things.
I know, right?
Part one to five is set in the present day.
And the second part, which I'm not going to spoil, it's a different thing.
But they're obviously connected.
It's a fantastic read. There's six issues out.
I read all six this week. Wow. Great
recommendation from Justin. And
it's a great comic. So I'd definitely check out
The Wake, or Wake, starring
with Scott Snyder. There you go.
He's really
one of, we're very lucky to have so
much Scott Snyder material at the moment, I think.
Until he goes crazy. I think all the
Snyders. Yeah, sure. I think all the Snyders.
Yeah, sure.
It's great having all the Snyders out there, you know?
Roy Schneider?
Yep.
Or is it Rob Schneider?
Both of them.
Or Roy Scheider?
Zach Scheider.
Yes.
All of them.
All of them.
The whole Snyder, Schneider, Scheider family.
David Schwimmer.
Yep.
He's back in a big way.
Yeah, you showed me before.
Yeah.
Before we started the podcast, you showed me a picture of David Schwimmer for some reason. Why back in a big way. Yeah, you showed me before. Yeah. Before we started the podcast,
you showed me a picture of David Schwimmer for some reason.
Why was that again?
Because he's great.
Is he?
No.
Anyway, there we go.
What done you are reading?
That was what I was reading.
Oh, good.
I read it.
He recommended it.
I read it and it's great.
It is great.
Yeah.
I've got something else,
but I'll talk about it next week.
Well, I'm done going to recommend True Detective,
which I am.
Yeah, sure.
And I'm done going to be reading a quarter of hours, evidently.
Yeah.
If I can prize them out of your hands.
You know, actually,
something that I just re-read quite recently.
Sure.
It's an image comic called The Infinite Vacation.
Okay.
Which is...
It's a limited series,
which took...
There were some, you know,
three or four month breaks between issues,
but it's all out now.
And it's about a world in which
parallel universes have been discovered.
I know this one.
And there's an app,
because there's an app for everything now,
where you can sort of put your life on the marketplace
and trade your life with a parallel universe version of yourself.
Like an infinite number of...
Yeah, an infinite number.
So you could potentially trade your life.
If you just work in an office, you could find a millionaire who wants to work in an office.
A millionaire version of you from a parallel universe who wants to work in an office.
And you can swap lives with him.
That's it.
Or what have you.
If you want to live in a crazy post-apocalyptic society, you can do that as well.
But it's about a guy who discovers that all the parallel universes...
Ah!
No, this is the...
Okay.
Yeah, the opening.
It's the first season.
Okay, gotcha, yeah.
So he discovers that many of the parallel universe versions of him are disappearing.
Oh, that's right.
He has to find out why.
I didn't know that.
So, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You recommended that to me a few years ago.
Yeah, yeah.
And I read the first one and went, that was really great.
And then nothing came out forever.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
So I have never finished that.
So that's all out now it's all I'm gonna go
check that out right
now please do see you
in hell Mason and
listeners oh no this is
taking a turn again so
yeah I guess that's the
show for the week
fantastic now we were
gonna do real-life
superheroes next week
which was recommended
by Phoenix Jones real real life superhero.
That's right.
So that's a bit of a conflict of interest, I think.
Cesar Chaparro, Chap Arrow.
Chap A-R-R-O.
He recommended that.
So you owe him thanks, Mason.
I think it's Chap Arrow.
I think he's a real life superhero.
He's like a British type and he's got a bowler hat.
And he's like a green arrow, but he's Chap Arrow.
I hope that's true me too if not get
on that yeah we will do arrows are cheap absolutely and bowler hats yes they are we won't do that next
week we're doing 300 next week we'll trudge through 300 through 300 and then we'll probably
do the week after unless there's some big adam driver news i hope so in case we come back to
that yeah adam driver is the anti shia labotte Booth. Maybe you're right. Yeah.
I hope he beats up Charlotte Booth.
Oh, that'll cover our Charlotte Booth news.
I hope he out-acts him in an act-off, and then he beats him up.
And then he gets the role as Nightwing in Superman vs. Batman,
and then we've covered all our bases.
That's right, yeah.
We certainly have.
Absolutely. So that's the show for the week.
Thank you for listening, guys.
Absolutely.
Big news episode this week.
Sometimes we'll probably just do that every now and then
if there's a lot of news
there was so much news
and shout outs
there sure was
so yeah
I might have to start
limiting the shout outs
because I'm not sure
people want to hear
like 20 minutes of shout outs
leave them at the end
it's fine
yeah you're right
yeah
alright Mason
have a good week yeah
enjoy your holiday
you son of a bitch
oh I'm gonna
that one was from me
as well
just so you know
three in a row
he's got five weeks off.
Yeah, it's gonna be great.
You jerk.
That.
You getting up to anything?
No.
I might go to Adelaide for a bit.
Why?
I mean, great.
I meant why.
Yeah, no, I was...
You know the only place that's worse than Adelaide?
What's that?
Canberra.
Good.
We'll edit this out.
Anyway.
All right.
Thanks, guys. Thanks for listening, everybody.
Cheers, guys. Bye.
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