The Weekly Planet - 23 Spider-man In The Avengers, A New Matrix Trilogy & 300!

Episode Date: March 3, 2014

This week's episode looks at the push for Spider-man in the Avengers, the costumes of Batman VS Superman, The Matrix 4, 5 & 6 plus Godzilla, Star Wars and more! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/priv...acy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:35 Visit heartandstroke.ca. Welcome back everyone to another episode of the Weekly Planet, official podcast of ComicBookMovie.com. My name is James, also Mr. Sunday. With me as always is my co-host, Nick Mason. How is it? Good. Everything's good. Good. Great. It's good. I like how my intros are getting more and more awkward, but in different ways. Like sometimes you'll pretend, last week you pretended I was Chris Hemsworth and I had to just sit there until you changed your mind. And now you're just throwing me weird, just weird grammar. Yeah. You see what I do with that. Yeah, you're right. I was going to say though. Yes. Great
Starting point is 00:01:23 shirt. Thank you. I got it off the internet. internet yeah for those who can't see it which is everybody but me it's basically it's the tin man but in an iron man style correct and it's amazing it's really cool tfury.com they're not they're not paying me for that aren't they they should yeah somebody should don't go there why are you paying me for this get straight is it because i provide no value that's that's why that's pretty much it essentially that's probably yeah yeah if anything i drag it down a little bit so uh yeah should we get straight to the news let's get to see we get heaps of news we do actually it's a big week for news this would be a big news-based episode because we didn't do anything else so let's do it also that is what the listeners wanted Yes That's not true
Starting point is 00:02:05 Many requests For Just News And no topic And we just floundered For an hour We'll talk a little bit About 300 Okay
Starting point is 00:02:12 I quickly slapped Something together About a second Before we started Recording Great So yeah Alright Mason
Starting point is 00:02:18 Joss Whedon It was kind of Semi-leaked By Drew Pierce By accident He wrote Iron Man 3 For starters I don't like the term Semi-leaked by Drew Pearce by accident. He wrote Iron Man 3. For starters, I don't like the term semi-leaked. It's unpleasant.
Starting point is 00:02:28 I think we should put a moratorium on the term semi-leaked. Let slipped? Oh, okay, yeah. That's right. Okay. So basically, Drew Pearce, he directed the All Hail the King one-shot. Yes. Which everybody loves, by the way.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Good. Is that officially out yet? I don't know yet. It must be, because I think it's on the Thor Blu-ray. Okay. I think the Thor Blu-ray is either out or not out. Good. Is that officially out yet? I don't know yet. It must be, because I think it's on the Thor Blu-ray. I think the Thor Blu-ray is either out or not out. Good. Is it? We're here for the news, people.
Starting point is 00:02:50 We sure are. We're bringing you the red hot news. So basically, he just made a passing comment saying that Joss Whedon will be back for The Avengers 3, which wasn't confirmed, but that's not a surprise, right? No, you wouldn't think so, no. So, you know, it's kind of news in the sense that we all assume that to be true anyway. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Are you against this? Yes. Give someone else a go. Like who? Some fresh eyes. Michael Bay. Uwe Boll. Yeah, Uwe Boll.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Once he's finished with his postal sequel or whatever else, Blood Rain. Yeah, well, he's doing the postal sequel. Once he's finished boxing his critics. Do you remember when he did that? I remember that, yeah. He did a charity boxing event, was that right, where he'd box his
Starting point is 00:03:26 critics and he's like just a bit of fun. Yeah, just come in and we'll have a little fun and box around or whatever. But he could
Starting point is 00:03:32 actually box. Yeah, and there's clips on the internet where he just brutalised people. Yeah. Like there's
Starting point is 00:03:37 the runner of somethingawful.com. Oh, Michael, no, what's his name? Richard, Richard Kiyanka,
Starting point is 00:03:43 low tax. Yeah, yeah. There's video of his fight out there I think's and he just comes in and he's like all kind of loosey-goosey and kind of up to have a bit of fun and then just uwe ball just punches him right in the face and it does not it looks like a terrifying experience it's done everyone except for uwe ball that's right he was having a great time but Wait, where were we? Mark Webb. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Let's talk about that. The director of something Spider-Man related? Director of Amazing Spider-Man and Amazing Spider-Man 2, both of which you love and have seen. No, that's also a trick question because the second one's an out. Correct. Right? Okay, good. That's right.
Starting point is 00:04:18 But yeah, basically he's confirmed that, it's been confirmed that he's back for Spider-Man 3. Amazing Spider-Man 3. This is threequel week. It sure is, Mason. Threequel news week. And that'll be out June Spider-Man 3. Amazing Spider-Man 3. This is three-quel week. It sure is, Mason. Three-quel news week. And that'll be out June 3rd, 2016. But in addition to that,
Starting point is 00:04:30 we've also got other Spider-Man movies coming. Unless there's an apocalypse. Do we have an apocalypse scheduled? I don't think so. Not this year. There was one 2012.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Yep. There was one 2000 and the year 2000. And I'm sure there was some other ones in between. Right. Those are the big ones that I can recall.
Starting point is 00:04:44 That was what the song Millennium was about, wasn't it? The upcoming apocalypse. Yes. Yeah. That was, it was a prophecy for an unending doom, an era of unending doom on earth. But it turned out it was just about his kids being born. Yeah. Oh, great.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Also, there are other Spider-Man spin-off films coming out around that time. We're probably getting one a year, it's said. Okay. I think from year, it's said. Okay. I think from 2015, from this year. So I think possibly next, no, from 2015, I think. Uh-huh. What am I saying? Spin-off films.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Yeah, that's right. We're supposed to be getting a Spider-Man film a year, basically we're going to get a Venom one, a Sinister Six one, Spider-Man 3 and 4, and they're basically going to go one a year until they get to four, and then they go, well, we're out of ideas. And Andrew Garfield doesn't want to do this anymore. And then they're stuck again.
Starting point is 00:05:30 He's got a wrinkle. He's out. Get another kid. Get a kid off YouTube. Here we go. That's it. That's it. But hey, there was interviews with the cast of The Amazing Spider-Man 2.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Emma Stone, Andrew Garfield. Yes. And the director, Mark Webb. And they all said they were very much open to an Avengers Spider-Man crossover. Well, good luck, idiots. Do you think there is zero chance of this happening? Um... Bearing in mind there's zero chance of this happening.
Starting point is 00:05:57 There really is, isn't there? Well, no, to be fair, they were talking about putting the Oscorp Tower in the Avengers. Right, okay. And that never ended up happening. Yeah, yeah. And apparently there was talks, and Mark Webber even said that in this interview, that like, yeah, there was kind of, you know, they made steps, but nothing really happened.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Because I remember when, if you remember the cartoon series Justice League Unlimited. Yes. There was an episode where they put in Captain Marvel, and I remember that, but apparently that was a legal nightmare, to put him in one episode. Really?
Starting point is 00:06:22 I didn't even know that was a thing. But so the idea of the legal wrangling of that was so difficult. The idea of now putting together two multi-billion dollar franchises. Nightmare. Easy. Because how do you split that? Because all the Avengers make about minimum $600 million a movie alone. Minimum.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Spider-Man makes also about that, I'd imagine. But regardless of whether Spider-Man is in an that, I'd imagine. But regardless of whether Spider-Man is in an Avengers film, the Avengers are still going to make the same money. That's probably it. Do you know what I mean? How do you split that? You don't give him half. No, that's right. What they could do is they could
Starting point is 00:06:56 base it on merchandise. Like they could sell Iron Man and Captain America and whatever and spider-man merchandise and and then like the end of the year they add it all up and if spider-man wins then like sony gets all the money okay they get literally all the money but if but if like iron man wins robert danny jr gets literally all the money you see how that works as per usual as per usual yeah yeah so look I'd like to
Starting point is 00:07:25 see it but to be honest I'm not really too stressed if we never do because I know it's a nightmare I think the Avengers work without
Starting point is 00:07:32 Spider-Man and again I would like to see it but if it doesn't it doesn't there's more of a chance of that happening in the
Starting point is 00:07:38 X-Men crossing over though because now they both have Quicksilver that's not a you just have a scene where they're both killed
Starting point is 00:07:43 like they meet they just run into each other they're both killed. Like they meet... They just run into each other and they mesh together. And they touch and they explode like in Time Cop. That happened in Time Cop? You can't touch
Starting point is 00:07:52 your parcel. Why not? Because you'll explode. What happens if you touch them really gently? Oh, maybe they explode. What if you have a stick and you touch them
Starting point is 00:08:00 with the stick? I think the stick is fine. Unless they also have a stick. I could be a Time Cop. Yeah, yeah. I know the rules. I'm not saying you couldn't be a stick. I think the stick is fine. Unless I also have a stick. I could be a time cop. Yeah, yeah. I know the rules. I'm not saying you couldn't be a time cop, alright? I thought that's what you were saying,
Starting point is 00:08:11 so I'm sorry I got a bit... Listen, as I was leading up to telling you you couldn't be a time cop. What? Nothing. Good on you, mate. You're the best. Alright, Mason, we got our first look
Starting point is 00:08:22 at The Flash this week. Yes. For the Flash TV series. The second live-action Flash TV series. Yes. For the Flash TV series. The second live action Flash TV series. Yeah. Possibly the best or the worst. Too early to say. What do you think of the costume?
Starting point is 00:08:31 It's just the head. It's just the cowl. What do you think? Looks good. Looks leathery. It does look leathery, yeah. Looks form-fitting. It does look form-fitting.
Starting point is 00:08:38 That's classic The Flash. Man, I tell you what, though. Doesn't have the wings on the side. It has the lightning bolt. Yeah. Which I think is a nice stylistic touch. Yeah. But it's not. Because wings. Yeah. I mean, realistically. Come on. Yeah. have the wings on the side. It has the lightning bolt. Yeah. Which I think is a nice stylistic touch. Yeah. That it's not.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Because wings. Yeah. I mean realistically. Come on. Yeah. Let's. Come on. Come on guys.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Come on guys. Haven't TV costumes come a long way though? They really have yeah. I mean wow. He doesn't look styrofoamy. No. The first one looked very styrofoamy. It really did.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Which is weird because it was all his muscles. He just had real styrofoamy muscles. So yeah look. It's coming out at some point, I'd imagine. And this was pointed out to me. It's probably the first promo shot in like 50 years of a TV superhero who's smiling. Okay. Weird, right? I'm trying to think of that.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Yeah. That sounds about right. Or in fact, any superhero, like any movie, Spider-Man, does he smile? No? He doesn't smile. Tobey Maguire hasn't smiled in any of those movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, yeah. Everybody's a bit kind of, everybody's torn up inside.
Starting point is 00:09:35 It's very down. Even the Avengers, which is a light-hearted affair. Yeah, yeah. All grim. Yeah, look at those posters. Yeah. You know what was great about it? I loved that bit in the Avengers when you saw the trailer and you saw the Hulk smile
Starting point is 00:09:45 because you never see the Hulk smile that's true and that was great I was like this is going to be great he was thinking about murder he was I loved it
Starting point is 00:09:51 it was good stuff but yeah first one so maybe this will be a light hearted kind of I mean his mother was murdered sure and he's searching for the murder of his
Starting point is 00:09:59 of his mother but he's searching really quickly yeah so that'll be fine so he's got time for a smell the roses he sure does. Now, Mason, we were going to talk about this last week, because as we were podcasting,
Starting point is 00:10:08 this news broke. Yes. And then we just went, ah, fuck it. Who cares? We'll do it next week. Oh, that's right. Okay, I remember now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Which I think is probably testament to how important the news is. Well, that's right. If you're like, should we quickly do this? We've got all the equipment set up. We can do it in two minutes. I could just press a button. We're both sitting down. We could do this.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Nah, don't worry about it. I nearly didn't even put it in for this week. Yeah. But basically, for those not in the know... I actually can't remember what it is. So, that's how important it is. So, it's going to be news to me as well. Alright.
Starting point is 00:10:38 It's a 13-episode miniseries for Heroes Reborn. That's what I think about that. Well, look. Heroes gets a bad rap. Because it's not very good. Because it's not very good. First season's okay. Yep.
Starting point is 00:10:49 They steal a lot from comics. Yep. And just kind of commentate on that. It's an homage. It's an homage. It's a straight rip-off. A lot of it.
Starting point is 00:10:57 I only watched the first series. I watched like the first two of the second series and then I went, nah. And then I stopped watching it. And that was in a time when we weren't getting
Starting point is 00:11:03 a lot of comic book stuff. But even then I'm like, not watching that. It I stopped watching it and that was in a time when we weren't getting a lot of comic book stuff but even then I'm like not watching that it's not good but that was due to the writer's strike though that was around that time so that's why
Starting point is 00:11:12 it suffered can't blame it all on the writer's strike no you can't Mason it was a dark time but still you said there were four seasons of that
Starting point is 00:11:17 show yeah I know I only knew that I thought there was like two because I just completely blacked that out
Starting point is 00:11:23 yeah yeah so yeah this one's going to be like a standalone series there might be other heroes from the I thought there was like two. Because I just completely blacked that out. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah. This one's going to be like a standalone series. There might be other heroes from the past coming in. Like people who haven't gotten work? Yes. So, most of them?
Starting point is 00:11:34 So, anybody but Zachary Quinto. Yeah. Who else is in that? That girl? The cheerleader girl? What is she in? Is she in something? She's around.
Starting point is 00:11:40 She's in things. Oh, yeah. That's a good point. She's at nightclub openings? Sure. And there's somebody else who's, I don't know. Is it Greg Grunberg? Is that the guy who was the mayor? The guy who was Stallone's son. Milo something.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Oh, Milo Bentonilia. Milo Kunis. Yes. Yeah. He's in things. He was in Rocky 6? Yes. Yes. You just did the math. I did, yes. I could hear your brain ticking as you worked that out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:07 So, yeah, there you go. Now, I guess it's fine. Now's as good a time as any to bring it back, though, isn't it? No. No, it's not. No. And that series ended with, like... A bang.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Really went out strong. No, I don't think it did. I don't know. I think it ended kind of with a whimper. I watched maybe two and a half seasons of Heroes. The other day I'm like, oh, Heroes. I wonder what happened with that. And I wikied it.
Starting point is 00:12:38 And I read the last episode summary and I really couldn't make heads or tails of it. I think it was like a guy... You know what? There's probably a follow-up mini-comic series that we haven't read. There's a guy... You know why? There's probably a follow-up mini-comic series that you haven't read. There's a guy and he had earth-shattering powers, like earthquake powers, but he also became more powerful if people followed him. So he was like a cult leader kind of thing, or a political figure or something like that.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Yeah, yeah. And then he just beat him up. And that was the end, I think. Oh, and then they're like, hey, and we're superheroes. Hey, the world knows about superheroes now. Didn't they already know that? No, I don't think they did. And also, like, half of them lost their powers, but they got more...
Starting point is 00:13:12 They got, like, artificial powers. Like Milo Kunis. He lost his powers. His dad stole his powers. Because his dad had the ability to steal powers. Didn't he have the ability to steal powers? Yeah, but then his dad stole that power. Okay. Because his dad, you know... So his dad stole his ability to steal powers. Didn't he have the ability to steal powers? Yeah, but then his dad stole that power. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Because his dad, you know... So his dad stole his ability to steal powers. Yeah, and then... And then did he steal the powers that he had already stolen? Yes. Okay. So he got all the powers. He got all the powers, right.
Starting point is 00:13:37 And then Milo Kunis, he also... He got artificial powers, which was similar to his old powers. Okay. Did he end up getting that scar? Because he came back from the future and he had a scar? Who's to say? It was a little bit confusing. Was it?
Starting point is 00:13:51 Yeah. It was really confusing. It was really confusing and awful, yeah. But hey, let's move it along, because I've got something that's less confusing and awful coming up next. Okay, I'm ready. There's a new Matrix trilogy, possibly. Oh!
Starting point is 00:14:02 Excited about that. Are you? No. Yeah. Now, apparently, this is a rumour, but apparently the Wachowskis have already started
Starting point is 00:14:09 the writing process for this brand new trilogy. You mean they've gone through their notebook of cool stuff that they wrote in high school and they've still got some stuff in the tank?
Starting point is 00:14:18 I tell you what, man. I mean, the idea is apparently Warner Brothers won another kind of surefire franchise. And look, a Matrix, any Matrix movie would make money, even though nobody likes the Matrix sequels.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Right, right, right. And they retroactively make the first one much worse somehow. Absolutely they do, yeah. But I guess people will see this. There's rumours that it's going to be the start of The Matrix. Oh, yeah, okay. Or a sequel and Neo would return. Because apparently there was, Keanu Reeves said in an interview a few years ago
Starting point is 00:14:46 that Wachowski's approached him for another two Matrix movies and floated some ideas to him. That was about three or four years ago. So, yeah, I guess. The thing about... I think a prequel would sort of work. But because there's... If you've seen the Animatrix, and there's also a lot of prequel
Starting point is 00:15:06 comics sort of around the time the first couple of movies came out yeah you know the there's that the idea that humanity created artificial intelligence and then they rebelled and then they created their own the artificial the robots created their own city and stuff like that which is kind of interesting and then there's the war yeah Yeah. But you can't put any Matrix-y things in there? No. Like, you can't have anybody doing super fast kung fu? You'd have to make it like a Skynet future movie. Yeah, yeah, exactly. We've seen a lot of that.
Starting point is 00:15:32 We sure have. I don't know if that's interesting. Yeah. Also, you know what? I would see it again. I would see sequels, as long as they're set in 1999. Well, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Because the Matrix is always set in 1999. That's right. It's because it's supposed to be the peak of humanity. Right, right. Which we know now. It was 1999. Yeah. Looking back,
Starting point is 00:15:49 we know that to be true. Yeah, yeah. But I mean, when was the last time you picked up a mobile phone and you pushed the button and it sprang out real dramatically?
Starting point is 00:15:57 Didn't you have that phone? I did have that. I had something like that. I remember seeing that and going, that's the coolest phone I've ever seen. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:03 You blew my mind with that phone. And you still got it. But now, yeah, exactly. I can get on Usenet with it. I can get on my Geocities page. All that sort of stuff. Pets.com.
Starting point is 00:16:17 What else is defunct? I don't know. Geocities? Ask Jeeves. Anyway, but you couldn't set the matrix. Oh, maybe you could could but it wouldn't be as fun no it wouldn't be because the matrix it's got that very specific year 1999 look yeah you know what i think they just go let's just make it now it's just easier also no pay phones no 14
Starting point is 00:16:36 well that's right how are they gonna escape the matrix they can't that's right once you're in you're like oh shit i'm here forever. I'm here until someone beats me to death. So, yeah, I guess. What was the last thing they did? Cloud Atlas, right? Yeah, they did Cloud Atlas before that, which I started to watch. Apparently, it's good, but it's one of those ones you really got to sit and watch it. And I'm a big fan of sitting and just watching things with one eye as I do something else. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Because I know it's zero atten... Lift weights. Yeah, exactly. I'm so muscular. You've seen've seen mad dog like a mad dog and so you really have to give it your full attention and and i didn't grab me enough to do that there's only really a few things that can do that game is suggesting though that people in cinemas are all going to be doing something else and this is really going to have to draw the like everybody's going to be lifting weights i think my point is that movie's not good
Starting point is 00:17:26 enough to hold my attention oh I get it that was my point but most things aren't Game of Thrones is one of the only things where I shut everything
Starting point is 00:17:32 down and there's a few other things but other than that I'll watch something and do something else because you know keep them busy
Starting point is 00:17:40 for me that was The Wire and now True Detective which I've got to get into that you should have saved that for what you read and what you're going to read well maybe I'll change it up alright then Keep them busy. For me, that was The Wire and now True Detective, which... I've got to get into that. It's good stuff. Yeah. You should have saved that for what you read and what you're going to read.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Well, maybe I'll change it up. All right, then. So, yeah, I was going to say something else about The Matrix, but I can't really remember. You know, there's a whole lot of story ideas for how The Matrix should have ended. Uh-huh. And, like, theories of what it actually was and what it all meant. I think it should have ended in, like, a weird mech shootout in an underground tunnel. Exactly! Why does it end with people that have just been introduced in a weird mech shootout?
Starting point is 00:18:11 And mechs are great, and yet that's really boring. Yeah. It's bizarre. I don't understand. It's just such a weird and anticlimactic ending. But remember the human drama? No! I remember the weird sweaty underground rave.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Yeah, that was a good one, wasn't it? But all these theories that I've read, though, they're all better than how it actually ended. One was that I can't remember all of them. I'll give you one. It's not even that great, this one that I remember. But basically, it was a matrix inside a matrix. So the reason, though, that Neo came out and he could stop
Starting point is 00:18:42 machines or whatever was because it was layers, basically. Right, okay, right. So, that's not great, now that I say that out loud. But I still think that is better than the actual ending. You're probably right. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:55 What a bunch of bullshit those movies are. This, like, pseudo-philosophical nonsense that went through it. The problem is, well, the Wachowskis don't understand what's great about the first Matrix. Because you can clearly tell that from the direction the second two go. Because if they understood what's good about that,
Starting point is 00:19:14 what's appealing about that movie, then it wouldn't have gone the way it did, basically. You're right. It's the same with George Lucas in Star Wars. It's the same with the director of Donnie Darko. Because the director's cut of Donnie Darko... Oh, Donald Darkatron. Donald Darkatron makes less sense.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Yeah. Because I think Donnie Darko is a fluke. I don't think he meant to make that. I think you're right. I think you ruffled some feathers with that. Yeah. I like Donnie Darko. I'm not saying I don't like him.
Starting point is 00:19:40 I don't like Donnie Darko. Okay, fair enough. Because it's a film that only makes sense if you also read the accompanying website, which has the weird philosophy on time travel in it and the weird time travel parallel universe weird loop-closing situation that happens in it. Is that why you don't like Back to the Future 3 because there's a website explaining it?
Starting point is 00:20:00 No. It's pretty straightforward. Just get that train going. Yeah. Stoke that burner. From sad news though, Mason, to even sadder news. Howard Ramis.
Starting point is 00:20:12 The great Howard Ramis passed away this week. Which sucks. I know, that's the worst. I didn't want to bring it up because I don't know. I don't want to make light of it because he was a great guy and he made great films and whatnot. And also, we've not mentioned a lot of other celebrities.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Yeah, exactly. So now it seems like we've devalued those. Yeah, well, that's it. But yeah, now, Harold Ramis, you know, Caddyshack, Ghostbusters, Animal House. Yeah. Groundhog Day. Groundhog Day. He's great in the Knocked Up as well.
Starting point is 00:20:40 That was the day, yeah. Yeah, he's terrific. He's great in an interview. He was. Sorry? He was. He was, sorry, yeah. He just terrific. He's great in an interview. He was. Sorry? He was. He was, sorry, yeah. He just seemed like a genuinely good guy. But in relation to that, he was big on getting the Ghostbusters 3 happening.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Yep. That's apparently not on hold. So basically they're just going to ride around it and kind of push forth with that. Maybe this is really the sign to just let it go. Probably, yeah. I mean, Murray's not coming back. Harold Ramis is now dead. Not coming back. No. So, you know. Probably, yeah. I mean, Murray's not coming back. Harold Ramis is now dead. Not coming back.
Starting point is 00:21:06 No. So, you know. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I know, right? Make a joke, Mason. Lighten the mood.
Starting point is 00:21:13 I can't. I can't do it. Oh, if only Harold Ramis were here. He'd say something right, but he can't. It bums me out, man. God, there's been a lot of,
Starting point is 00:21:22 if you notice, there's been a lot of celebrities dying lately. Is that just me? Or do they always die and I don't notice? Ah... Philip Seymour Hoffman, Paul Walker, Howard Ramis. I'm trying to think.
Starting point is 00:21:31 I'm sure there's others that I've missed. I don't know. No. Anyway. All right. Do you have... Is your next... See, how it works on the actual news...
Starting point is 00:21:39 So anyway, rest in peace, Howard Ramis. That's... We're going to miss you. Yeah. On the actual news, what they do is then they segue into a lighter bit of news about a kitten caught in a tree or something like that. Okay. Or like a sloth that has learned to dance or something for fish or whatever a sloth
Starting point is 00:21:54 does. So my hope is as a professional, you will have transitioned into a light, lighthearted piece of news about maybe Michael Bay has learned to dance for fish or something. Well, look, it's light-ish. I didn't do it on purpose. Okay, good. But it's light-ish. A GameSpot user
Starting point is 00:22:12 has supposedly obtained a photo of the new Batman logo and banner for the new Arkham game. Ooh. Which will be made by Rocksteady. This is the sequel.
Starting point is 00:22:20 This is the sequel. So I'm hoping that this is... And Rocksteady's back on board. Yeah, well, Rocksteady, I think that's what Rocksteady have been doing this entire time. Ah, okay, right. I'm assuming they Rocksteady's back on board yeah well Rocksteady I think that's what Rocksteady have been doing this entire time I'm assuming they've been
Starting point is 00:22:27 building a next gen Batman game which I'm super excited for but if they come out and they're like we haven't been doing anything I'm going to be really upset so
Starting point is 00:22:36 because as we've established the last Batman game is good but it's it's certainly not as good as Arkham City that's very true and you don't even think
Starting point is 00:22:43 it's as good as the first one is that correct? Which I also agree with. Yeah, you're right. Because, I mean, as good as the last game was, it's only as good as it is. Not to sell it short because it's fine. It's a good experience. It's only as good as it is because it built off the previous two.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get the feeling that that company couldn't have made that game without being given everything. Exactly, yeah. From it, yeah. But great story, I thought. Yeah. So, yeah. What do you think of that?
Starting point is 00:23:07 Would you like that to be true? I'm going to look up the logo. It's really not that. It's just a Batman logo and it's just kind of in fire. And that's it. It's not. Well, then I'm impressed. Because when has anyone ever done that?
Starting point is 00:23:18 Think about it. Multiple, multiple times. But I'm very excited. Do you want to look it up or do you want me to move on to the next thing? You move on to the next thing and then i'll just jump in with oh yeah fx is the veil explores the surprising and fraught relationship between two women who play a deadly game of truth and lies on the road from istanbul to paris and london one woman has a secret the other a mission to reveal it
Starting point is 00:23:46 before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. So basically, at the Star Trek convention, a recent Star Trek convention, I think it was in Las Vegas, which you and I attended. Sure.
Starting point is 00:24:03 I was a wolf. I was Stevendorf., which you and I attended. Sure. I was a Worf. I was Steven Dorf. I was Steven Dorf. But Carl Urban was asked, as he is in every interview, what's going on with Dread 2? And he said, funnily enough, shut up. No, he said, conversations are taking place. So I think the Blu-ray sales and digital downloads for Dread are adding up to something. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:24:26 I would like this to be the case, but you know what's going to happen? It's the same thing that's going to happen with Serenity. It'll come out, it'll again make zero money, and then that will be it forever. I mean, I don't care. I want to see another one. If it makes zero money, it's... But I think something like Dread does have... It's got a limit on it.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Like how many... I would say three would be an absolute maximum. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, two is really pushing it, I think. So, yeah, it'll probably be made in Europe by those people that make the Liam Neeson films. That's right. He'll be fighting wolves in East Meguan, you know, in the frozen tundra. Yeah, yeah. It'll be great.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Look, I'd love to see it. I like Dread a lot. You like Dread a lot also yes yeah wasn't Dreadful was it but you know the marketing sunk that film as well
Starting point is 00:25:11 the lack of marketing and it came out like a weird time of year yeah it was like I think it was like November or something Christmas Day
Starting point is 00:25:17 just for 24 hours yeah that's right so it was kind of the odds were stacked against it but if you put that out in like August yeah yeah it was like a late summer movie or whatever, you know, Northern Hemisphere summer movie.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Yeah. Then that would do. If you're listening, Carl Urban, you tell your bosses, you tell them what we said. Yeah! All right. You're familiar with Adam Driver?
Starting point is 00:25:39 Yes. From Girls? From Girls and possibly Nightwing. Rumoured to be Nightwing. Every other character with slightly long hair. That's right. In comic long hair. That's right. In comic book movies. That's it.
Starting point is 00:25:46 And it's way forward, yes. Well, it's been rumoured that he is in Final Talks to play a Darth Vader-style villain in the Matrix. No, in Star Wars. Okay. You know Star Wars. Yeah. And by...
Starting point is 00:25:59 I mean, everybody knows Star Wars, but you know all the... I know it more. You know all the expanded universes. I don't. I know so... You do. You love all those books. You love all the comic books. I've read like... know all the expanded universe I don't I know so you do you love all those books you love all those
Starting point is 00:26:06 I've read like you love the one where there's zombies or whatever it is I have read that one yeah okay um who do you think
Starting point is 00:26:13 he could be no one I think it's a new character oh okay what I think's happened here first I think if they said it's a Darth Vader
Starting point is 00:26:19 Darth Vader style character I said this in one of my videos Mason I know I say that a lot but basically I had the idea offhand that there should be a guy who turns up and he's Vader-esque. Yep.
Starting point is 00:26:30 And he either claims that he's Vader or people assume that he's Vader. I see. And then they go to Luke and they're like, what the fuck, man? And Luke's like, it's not Vader. I told you. He died. And he was my father. I was there.
Starting point is 00:26:43 And they're like, yeah, well, you're the only one who saw it. You're a total arsehole. Why don't you fucking do something about this? I like this new Han Solo-esque character. You're an arsehole. He doesn't even have the subtlety of Harrison Ford. You're an arsehole, and I hate your face. How do you like that?
Starting point is 00:27:02 You want to choke me? You don't have the guts. That's right. So they could come and say, well, look, you're the only one who... We have to just assume that he's come back before. Right. He was severed in horrible ways and he came back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:13 This could very well be him. Remember that time his arms and legs got cut off and he was rolled in fire? Like a pancake? So, yeah, I think... I hope that that's the way it goes. Okay, yeah. Because that's my idea. I hope we're surprised.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Yeah, sure. Because I'm sick of being spoiled before movies come out. Fair point. But you know what else I think they're doing here? What's that? If you look at who they got for Anakin Skywalker... Jake Lloyd again? No, no, sorry, the older one.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Hayden Christensen. Jake Lloyd, yeah. Yeah, Jake Lloyd. Hayden Christensen. Jake Lloyd, yeah. Yeah, Jake Lloyd. Hayden Christensen is not actually a bad actor. I just think he was very young in that role to be thrown in front of green screen. Because if you see Shattered Glass and there's some other movies that he's in, there's one
Starting point is 00:27:55 he's in with Kevin Klymer, he's like a youth and he's angry and he likes drugs. He's not actually that bad an actor. He's actually got some skills. We've all seen Jumper. I was going to say Jumper, but then I thought, was that him or was that Ryan Felipe? It was both of them. They just switched them out seed to seed. Via jumping?
Starting point is 00:28:12 That's right. Do you remember when he jumpered Samuel L. Jackson into a cave? Yeah. And Samuel L. Jackson was like, you got me, Jumper. Yep. You got me this time. He had that wry smile. He did.
Starting point is 00:28:22 He was like, look, I'm a crazy religious fundamentalist who wants nothing better to murder all of your kind. But you got me. You got me this time. He had that wry smile. He did. He was like, look, I'm a crazy religious fundamentalist who wants nothing better to murder all of your kind. But you got me. You got me, mate. I'm going to die in this cave. Oh, well played. But what I basically think they're doing is, J.J. Abrams has looked at the prequels and gone, they got a handsome kind of mannequin looking man to play a character. Mannequin Skywalker.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Mannequin Skywalker, yeah. Which was way out of his depth. Right. Acting wise. Considering the direction he was given also. I don't blame Hayden Christensen for that. Mannequin Skywalker. Mannequin Skywalker, yeah, which was way out of his depth acting-wise, considering the direction he was given also. I don't blame Hayden Christensen for that. And also weird baby dialogue. And weird baby dialogue, exactly.
Starting point is 00:28:51 And then for this one, they get someone who's not what you'd call traditionally good-looking. Isn't he? No, no. I mean, I don't think people like... He's a monster. He's not a monster. He's a regular guy.
Starting point is 00:29:02 He's a regular guy, yeah. And I wouldn't even say he's untraditionally handsome. What if you cut his hair and cut off all that facial hair? Then, yeah, he'd look like a monster. Oh, that's... Wow. Good call, then. Because he's got those big ears.
Starting point is 00:29:16 I've gone from being really nice to just insulting him just in one fell swoop. But he's got a lot of range. Even in the show Girls, he's easily the best actor in that. Right. So I think they've gone, let's get someone who can just really sell this. And if this is true, that's why I think they got him. This may be the first instance of good acting in a Star Wars film.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Don't you think that IG-88 did good acting? He did pretty good acting. Don't you think the CGI Psy-Snootles in the re-edition of Return of the Jedi was good when she sung that song? What? Do you remember the bit? No! Jabba's Palace. No!
Starting point is 00:29:52 In the new Return of the Jedi. No! Where they put a musical number. You don't remember that? Not really. It's incredible. Did it go... No!
Starting point is 00:29:59 It's a whole song. I have no memory of that. I'll put in a clip. And I have seen it. I have seen it at the cinema, so I don't know. Yeah. I'll put in a clip. And I have seen it. I have seen it at the cinema, so I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, put in a clip. Do you like 1997 CGI?
Starting point is 00:30:10 No. Then you'll love it. Great. Anyway. Because that's what he apparently wanted to do originally. He's like, I wanted to put a musical number in Star Wars, because people would be like, what? Yeah, they would be like that.
Starting point is 00:30:19 They would. Certainly would, yeah. But not in a good way. That sounds like desperation. Yeah. Like the musical, the dance sequence in Spider-Man 3. Yeah, exactly. Or the start of Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom with the dance sequence.
Starting point is 00:30:30 That kind of works. Yeah. Great movie. Temple of Doom? It's fine. You're a dickhead. You're a dickhead. All right, Mason.
Starting point is 00:30:37 I'm glad I didn't follow the Harold Ramis news with this. Ew. But Fast and Furious... Harold Ramis' corpse has been dismembered. Oh, jeez. And spread all over the New York Public Library But Fast and Furious... Harold Ramis' corpse has been dismembered. Oh, jeez. And spread all over the New York Public Library.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Fast and Furious... Is this too soon for jokes? I think it's way too soon. Oh, okay. Keep that in there. It's minutes. Keep that in there. Keep it in.
Starting point is 00:30:53 It's fine. Fast and Furious 7 is going back for filming in April for six to eight weeks to finish off. Yeah, yeah. Obviously, there was a hiatus
Starting point is 00:31:00 after Paul Walker died. He will still be in the movie. There's rumours that... Well, they're going to write him out in a way that he kind of goes off into the sunset and lives happily, which is nice. And there's rumours that his brother's going to replace him. We've talked about this.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Yeah, yeah. And they're going to CGI Paul Walker's face, which would be, you know, weird-ish, I guess. But, you know, do what you've got to do, I guess. Yep. But, hey. So, yeah, there you go. What do you think of Need for Speed? Like, I'm seeing a lot of advertising for that.
Starting point is 00:31:22 I didn't realise, but it's actually out here. There you go. I'm going to go and see it. Let's not see it. No, I don't want to see it. No, I'll see Need for Speed. I'm seeing a lot of advertising for that. I didn't realise, but it's actually out here. There you go. Can I go and see it? Let's not see it. No, I don't want to see it. No, I'll see it. Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:30 I'll see it when it comes out on Blu-ray and I buy the steelbook. I get it. I don't know. They seem to be trying to find a midpoint between Fast and Furious ridiculousness and like drive. Yeah. Or, you know. Sure.
Starting point is 00:31:44 A lot of actual practical stunts in that movie yeah and kind of some some drama yeah that isn't nonsense yeah have you got have you got any friends who love cars not that i talk to on facebook certainly and they appear and they're like when you whatever yeah see that's how much I know about cars. That is the best reference I could pull about cars. Got my new whatever. Yeah, yeah. That's pretty much it. Why do you ask?
Starting point is 00:32:11 No, well, I was with a guy yesterday. He's like a friend of a friend from school. He's in the group, you know? Right, right, right, yeah. And every conversation, he'll bring up cars in that conversation. So he'll be like, I met this girl. And then he's like and she drives this particular car like that adds anything to the story right like like you'll be like
Starting point is 00:32:29 or his story will start she challenged me to a race yeah exactly you're like i pulled up at the lights and i saw this car and then i went to the supermarket it's like you could have cut that bit out about the car what happened at the supermarket get to it exactly but the other thing is though like we love comic books right here's what happened i was going on my way to the supermarket? Get to it Exactly But the other thing is though We love comic books right? Here's what happened I was on my way to the supermarket And I saw this car And then I got to the supermarket
Starting point is 00:32:51 And then I was going through the self checkout And this car was in the way And it was 12 items or less And he was just there He just didn't understand He didn't know how to weigh his vegetables And I'm like come on the car You know
Starting point is 00:33:04 So it's relevant Nice spoiler Yeah You've spoiled my day Yeah Nice one I'm like, come on, the car. You know? Sounds relevant. Nice spoiler. Yeah. You've spoiled my day. Yeah. Nice one. I'm real late. You're right.
Starting point is 00:33:11 He's a good storyteller. Yeah. The point is, though, we like comic book movies and comic books and whatever and TV and whatever. But in every conversation I have with people, I don't bring it up. That's true. Most people don't even know that I like this stuff. Like, if people ask me at work, they're like, what do you think of this movie? And instead of getting into it, I just go, don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Right. Because I just don't want to get into it. I'm not going to spend 30 minutes... And then, you know, I'll spend 30 minutes ranting and then everyone will be backing away. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, oh, no, I've alienated everybody. Yeah. I find that that also happens in, like, if you go to, like, a trivia...
Starting point is 00:33:43 Yep. A trivia night or something like that and they'll ask a question and you know more than the question is asking and you will get the question wrong because you know more and then an argument starts they'll be like what's the name of Rob
Starting point is 00:33:55 what's Robyn's secret identity and you're like well there's been a few you know look do you mean in current continuity look I'll write five names down. Look, and I'll put an X near the ones that have been retconned out. And, um, here's a potential future version. Um, where are you, where are you guys going?
Starting point is 00:34:15 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're right. So yeah, play it cool, Mason. Yeah. Although what you do tend to do is bring up your personal vendettas. That's true. On this podcast.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Yeah, this is one of them. And that's true. This is vendetta talk. And to be fair, I do bring up personal vendettas that's true on this podcast yes this is this is one of them that's true this is vendetta talk and to be fair i do bring up personal vendettas a lot in real life so that's probably what i mostly talk about yeah yeah yeah yeah all right moving along mason minecraft movie apparently in the works okay i saw a fake poster on cracked for a minecraft movie i was like oh look at the wackiest movies that are based on video games that will never get made and now this is a real thing i think maybe movie studios are just mining crack.com i think you might be right a lot of pages there's like 15 million page views they're like that'll do that's the one whatever that is yeah weirdest animals that love ice cream let's get it let's do
Starting point is 00:35:00 it let's do it i think it's a reaction to the Lego movie. Yeah, I was going to say, yeah. That's what I think. So it's all CGI. That's a dumb question I was going to ask. Is it going to be all CGI? No. Real? They'll carve out real? I think we do for another movie where people fall into a computer world. You want to see another Super Mario Brothers? Yes.
Starting point is 00:35:17 That's not a computer world, is it? No, it's not. Yeah, when was the last movie that they fell into? Tron, I guess. They fell into a computer world. Yeah, but I mean more like an 80s. like, you know, they fall through a computer screen. What's going on? And then they're in Minecraft world.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Because electricity hits the computer. Yeah, definitely. And they spill an orange drink. Yep. And then they get pulled into the computer. Sure. But I'm not a Minecraft fan. And by the way, I know that Lego and Minecraft are not the same things.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Yes. Just so people know that. But I think there's enough similarities there where they went, I know that Lego and Minecraft are not the same things. Yes. Just so people know that. But I think there's enough similarities there where they went, okay, that works. And kids love Minecraft as well, man. They love it. They use it as an educational resource. Did you know that? No.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Well, now you do. Yeah. So there you go. About hell? Did you know there's a hell in Minecraft? Is there? You can mine your way through. What's down there?
Starting point is 00:36:01 Hell, like fire and that. Big blocky demons? I don't know if there's demons. But there's like a fiery underworld. Can you build your way to heaven? I don't think so. Can you build your way to heaven in real life? I guess if you do enough sweet podcast episodes they let you in. It's considered
Starting point is 00:36:15 community service. I like that. Okay, let's talk about the Godzilla trailer, Mason. Okay, I'm ready. Second Godzilla trailer. Definitely saw more of Godzilla's than the first one trailer that is all right yes because what's really happening is that you're hiding something out there and it is going to send us back to the stone age brian cranston opening monologue in that yep what an amazing actor he could sell the shit out of anything.
Starting point is 00:36:45 He really could, yeah. That's a giant monster! You fuck! That's not what he says. Should be, though. They should add that to every trailer of anything. So, yeah. We got little glimpses of Godzilla,
Starting point is 00:36:59 which I think is the way to go. The problem with the last Godzilla, aside from everything associated with it, they didn't show Godzilla at all until he went in. But I like that they're showing just snippets of him or you see his shadow or you see parts of him. You saw his giant foot.
Starting point is 00:37:13 You did see his giant foot, yes. Monty Python style. Yes. That got me so excited. Oh, no. Anyway, let's not dwell again. So, yeah. Did you enjoy the trailer?
Starting point is 00:37:24 Yes. He's the biggest Godzilla ever, apparently. Oh the trailer yes he's the biggest godzilla ever apparently oh really biggest version okay getting bigger over the years yeah yeah like like remember like if you watch one from the 50s like he'd be within like you know the rubber monster guy would be within the buildings yeah like they'd be building sort of near his height or whatever he is he is crushing it he's well well because there was a point where he had fought king kong and king kong is not yeah yeah. King Kong could not fight this Godzilla. No, that's true.
Starting point is 00:37:46 In any way. Yeah, this one's like 150 metres tall or something like that, so... Yeah. Godzilla could... Crush a heap of King Kongs. That's right. Even modern-day King Kong the Musical. If he had a whole lot of King Kongs, he could just play, like, Barrel of Monkeys with them.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Oh, absolutely, yeah. Just, like, string them up. That's right. But, yeah. More monsters in this trailer, I don't know if you've noticed. There's just snippets. Do you mean the monsters that are humans? No. That are monsters to him? maybe we're the real monsters are we
Starting point is 00:38:08 are real monsters i like that show yeah but uh yeah there's like a spidery kind of leg that comes down at one point yeah there's a weird kind of flying one you know what's interesting about this one is that godzilla's always been the result of nuclear testing yes or some sort of chemical waste accident yeah this one it's revealed that the nuclear test nuclear testing. Yes. Or some sort of chemical waste accident. Yeah. But in this one, it's revealed that the nuclear tests in the 50s were an attempt to kill him. Yeah. That's amazing, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:38:31 That he already existed. Yeah. So where's he come from? By Hiroshima, possibly? Maybe. Yeah. Pacific Rim? Yes.
Starting point is 00:38:37 How about the universe? I mean, I remember the time when Pacific Rim was coming out and I was like, how's Godzilla going to top this? Do you remember that? I do. That's a long time. It feels like a long time ago but um
Starting point is 00:38:48 and I thought how's Godzilla going to beat this but seeing these trailers I think it could very well Bryan Cranston yeah I know just chuck in a Bryan Cranston
Starting point is 00:38:55 yeah yeah sick of this shit whatever he says at the start yeah but uh it's also alluded to if there's other
Starting point is 00:39:02 the government's stealing my thoughts salad it just salad it yeah so yeah I'm there's other monsters. The government's stealing my thoughts. Salad it. Just salad it. So yeah, I'm assuming the other monsters Godzilla will then be used to fight the other monsters.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Because that's generally what they use him for, isn't it? In the first few or whatever, I haven't seen any of the Godzilla movies. Because, and I know
Starting point is 00:39:18 I'll get hate for this, they're mostly garbage. No, that's fair. I mean, you know, they're fun and whatever, whatever, but they're not... He's not really used to fight the other monsters. It's more that he is a benevolent force on some level.
Starting point is 00:39:33 So I don't know how they can... I don't think they'll do that. Yeah. But if you recall in the Godzilla cartoon series... No. New Godzilla cartoon series... Didn't say it. He was imprinted on Matthew Broderick as his mother.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Yes, yes. So he would sort of do what Matthew Broderick As his mother Yes So he would sort of do What Matthew Broderick suggested Yeah So maybe they can do that That's right Maybe they can Isn't that what happened
Starting point is 00:39:50 To Sarah Jessica Parker Oh boy This cartoon Turned into Sex and the City I was going to say Please stop me Go on yeah What are you saying
Starting point is 00:39:59 The cartoon So yeah You think Matthew Broderick Is going to control this I think so yeah That's what you're saying Yeah actor Matthew Broderick Great He just says Don't worry I've got this Everybody calm down So yeah, you think Matthew Broderick's going to control this? I think so, yeah. That's what you're saying. Yeah, actor Matthew Broderick. Great.
Starting point is 00:40:06 He says, don't worry, I've got this. Everybody calm down. Cranston, stop. Calm yourself. Resit your tinfoil hat and it'll be fine. There's also a bit where they walk inside, looks like the skeleton of an old Godzilla. So maybe this is in Godzilla continuity.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Oh, maybe, yeah. Probably not, though. Yeah. But hey, look, if you want to know more about Godzilla... Listen to Godzilla. He's such a charlatan. Am I right? But basically, yeah, if you want to know anything about Godzilla, Mason,
Starting point is 00:40:33 Cinemassacre, you know, the James Rolfe, the angry video game nerd, go to his website. I've watched all his videos on Godzilla, where he basically, he does a monster-a-thon Halloween thing, everything, and one year he did all the Godzilla movies, where he basically he does a monster-a-thon Halloween thing everything and one year he did all the Godzilla movies
Starting point is 00:40:47 or at some point he's reviewed all the Godzilla movies so just go through and check it out he's great that guy I'm a big fan of that guy not just his angry video game nerd stuff
Starting point is 00:40:56 because I think that kind of gets a bit tired after a while not to say that it's not good good on him you were digging a hole yeah but I am looking forward
Starting point is 00:41:03 to his angry video game nerd movie I do like his stuff you do all his stuff yeah he's great Good on him. You were digging a hole. Yeah. But I am looking forward to his Angry Video Game Nerd movie. What am I talking about? I do like his stuff. You do? Yeah. He's great. I'm glad you've worked this out on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:41:11 So yeah, check out cinemassacre.com for a whole lot of Godzilla stuff, I guess. You know what we haven't seen yet? Fire Breath. No. I think they'll do it. Yeah, you'd hope so. If he looks exactly like old Godzilla, but he's not breathing fire. It's a nuclear breath, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:41:26 It's not like a fire breath. It's more like a laser beam. You know what's a good dragon movie, aside from Dragonheart 2? Is it Reign of Fire? Yeah. Yeah, I enjoyed Reign of Fire. Reign of Fire is incredibly underrated. It's got your Jerry Butler.
Starting point is 00:41:39 It's got your Christian Bale. It's got your dragon. Was it Jerry Butler? Yeah, it was his mate. Wasn't it Matthew McConaughey wasn't it Matthew McConaughey yeah Matthew McConaughey is in it also oh okay right
Starting point is 00:41:47 wow wow three for the price of one two of the force yes of acting so yeah if you haven't seen
Starting point is 00:41:52 Rain On Me or Rain Over Me that's the one with Adam Sandler yes it is the one with dragons and Christian Bale it's pretty good
Starting point is 00:41:58 check it out Mason Batman vs Superman news okay you're making a decision not Shia LaBeouf news. I've locked it in. Batman vs. Superman news.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Now, I've written down exactly what has been said here, because I couldn't work out what exactly he meant by it. Okay. So, I want to ask you. Okay, good. Because you're a wise man beyond your years. Thank you. Yeah. You look 50, but you act 90.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Thanks. Thanks, pal. And yet, my baseball cap turned all the way around. I know. I'm so, you I'm pretty cool. Costume designer Michael Wilkinson, who's designing the costumes, says that he's... Not just a costume designer off the street. Unemployed costume designer Michael Wilkinson has some opinions.
Starting point is 00:42:37 He did American Hustle. Oh yeah. Which is similar, I guess, in costumes to Batman vs Superman. He's tweaking the Superman costume. He's following Amy Adams around. I guess so, yeah. Didn't even think of that. Maybe he's the personal costume designer.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Yeah, makes sense. He's going to tweak the Superman costume, he said. I'm assuming they're going to lighten it? Yeah, maybe, yeah. I hope they do. Yeah, the more comic book characters you introduce, the more superheroes you introduce, I guess the lighter
Starting point is 00:43:05 you have to go a little bit yeah that's right basically he was asked more to distinguish them than anything else yeah well that's right they can't all be grey dead evil bullseye style
Starting point is 00:43:12 yeah that's it it was asked if it would be realistic for Princess Diana to fight crime in what we've typically seen her in and he said this
Starting point is 00:43:21 absolutely you remember I can't read so if I make mistakes i'm ready i mean you just have to look at the gladiators from ancient rome they did their thing with the shield and everything yes it works for thorin 300 so let's see what happens is he saying that she's not going to be armored with the shield or that she is i think he's what i think what he's saying is that she's gonna be in like your traditional greek amazonian outfit okay like he's saying is that she's going to be in your traditional Greek Amazonian outfit. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:49 She's not going to be in pants. Yeah, I hope not. She's going to be in, I would say... The metal skirt? I would say much like the classic Wonder Woman kind of one-piece thing with maybe the skirt thing. Yeah. Maybe a sword. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:02 I want to see a shield. Oh, well. I like the shield. Why don't you watch Captain America and the Winter Soldier then? You love shields so much. Why don't you watch Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.? You love shields so much. I don't love shields that much.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Nobody does. Is that show? That's still gold, isn't it? Who knows? I think it's still on hiatus. It's on hiatus, yeah. Because Skye got shot. Spoiler alert.
Starting point is 00:44:19 But they put her in a thing that keeps her alive. Which one's that? The girl. Oh. Hacker. Oh, right. Goodacker. Oh, right. Good show. Yeah, great.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Yeah. So what I'm saying is I think she's going to be in classic Wonder Woman outfits. Okay, cool. It'd be weird, too, if they put her in pants and a... That'd be very strange, yeah. I mean, I think they do it a lot of times in cartoons because it's easy to animate. Yeah. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:40 Or they like the look or whatever. Yeah, yeah. Or it doesn't look as ridiculous on a cartoon than it does on a real human person. Very true. But when it says, yeah, it works for Thorin 300, those have set in very distinct time periods. So that's what kind of threw me. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:54 It's kind of like, well, 300's from the past, so that's why that works. And Thor's from space or whatever. But that's now. Yeah, he's wearing a space costume. I think what he's saying is that, yeah, she'll be in somewhat period costume and not modern day. Cool.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Happy with that. Yeah, totally. Great. Now, Goth period costume and not modern day. Cool. Happy with that. Yeah, totally. Great. Now, Gotham News, Mason. Here we go. We love it. Also, thanks to all the listeners who participated in Mackenzie Mustache. Hashtag Mackenzie Mustache.
Starting point is 00:45:14 I've got some shout-outs which I can get to. Or do you like me to do them before the Gotham News? Nah, do Gotham News. So basically, Gotham, apparently the pilot episode, there's a whole lot of potential spoilers online for what's going to happen in the first episode. I'll give a little bit away Mason because I know you love spoilers I do love spoilers so basically helping me in my life
Starting point is 00:45:30 minor minor spoilers this by the way this seems to be taken a lot from Batman Earth 1 the comic as well okay yeah was it Batman Earth 1 no I think it's the new Batman
Starting point is 00:45:39 the new 52 Batman anyway so the first episode is going to start with Gordon being given a tour of Gotham and that's when you run into a whole lot of different characters like your Edward Nygma and whatever Anyway, so the first episode is going to start with Gordon being given a tour of Gotham. And that's when you run into a whole lot of different characters.
Starting point is 00:45:49 Like your Edward Nygma and whatever. One of them is a 14-year-old Selina Kyle. Okay. So, I think that's a good way to start. Yeah, yeah. That tour of the city. When you say a tour, you mean a little bus? A little bus.
Starting point is 00:46:00 A little double-decker bus. And he's on the top and he's got his camera around his neck and his little hat. Yeah. And there's a jaunty Gotham song in the style of New York. New York, it's a wonderful town, you know? Exactly. Great. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:12 And he's just going to meet them? They're just going to be hanging out on street corners or something? Well, I assume what it's going to be, and this is me guessing. Maybe it's like a training day kind of thing. Yeah, like he's with Bullock, Harvey Bullock. And Harvey Bullock's like, you know, we've got to go to this and we've got to pick this up and we've got to go and see this person about this, and whatever. This is, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:46:28 So, yeah, that's what I think it'll be. Okay. Which I think is a good way to open the series. That'll work, yeah, totally. Yeah. All right, Mason. Mackenzie Mustache has been an amazing success yet again. I think so.
Starting point is 00:46:37 So much so that we, I think, have scared Benjamin Mackenzie off Twitter. I may be wrong, but he hasn't tweeted a single thing the entire week. I know, because I've been watching. Has he tweeted in the previous week? Yes. Did he tweet things? Wow. Do you think that...
Starting point is 00:46:50 Wow. Look, it would be... It could be a coincidence. It could be a coincidence. He might be going underground and growing a mustache for us. And he'd be like, at the end of the week, he'd be like, surprise, fools. I would love that. That'd be great, wouldn't it?
Starting point is 00:47:02 Yeah. Yeah. It's probably unrelated that he's not on Twitter, though, realistically. He's probably filming something. Yeah, he probably is. But basically, all those people who hashtag McKenzie Mustache, very successful with the compliments. People were firing complimentating left, right, and center. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:47:16 You've been working out. Yeah, that's it. You know what would look great? Mustache. Yeah, exactly. A few shout-outs. Trevor Onyango. Yeah, he was very persistent and hilarious. Absolutely. I know you saw a few of his... I believe in Trevor Onygo. Yeah, he was very persistent and hilarious.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Absolutely. I know you saw a few of his... I believe in Trevor Onyanggo. Yeah, that's right. That was great. That made me laugh. Aaron Mitten. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:47:32 Who's just a Mitten. A stalwart. A misestablished fan of the show. He was really good as well. A guy called Icebat did a really good Photoshop. Oh, yes. With a moustache. Like, not a paint...
Starting point is 00:47:42 Not an MS Paint job. Like, it looked legitimate. A paint job will cost you extra. That's right. On the streets of Gotham. That's it. So, yeah, that were really,
Starting point is 00:47:51 that were a few standout ones. There's one I'm going to say, there's one I'm going to say maybe possibly took it a little too far. Yes. This isn't, I don't want this person
Starting point is 00:47:58 to take this as an insult. Maybe leave the name out there. Okay, fine. The person said, I swear to God, I will murder you unless you grow a moustache. This did make me laugh, to be fair. The person said... I swear to God I will murder you unless you grow a mustache. This did make me laugh,
Starting point is 00:48:07 to be fair. But he said, asked Benjamin McKenzie to make my dream come true, me, because I'm a cancer-stricken Australian boy. Oh. So...
Starting point is 00:48:16 I don't get it. Okay, I wasn't going to tell you until after, but there's some unfortunate news. Oh, shit. Yeah. So maybe... I'm a 12-year-old boy and I have cancer. Yeah, that's both of those things. Oh, shit. Yeah. So maybe...
Starting point is 00:48:26 I'm a 12-year-old boy and I have cancer. Yeah, that's both of those things. God damn it. Yeah. So, yeah. Possibly too far. You can't get into R-rated movies anymore. Oh, damn it.
Starting point is 00:48:34 Possibly too far, that one? Nah. All's fair on Twitter, I say. Yeah, you're right. Twitter's for threats and lies. Yeah. And I did laugh for an uncomfortably long time when I read that.
Starting point is 00:48:44 That's good. I imagine he laughed as well. Yeah. I I did laugh for an uncomfortably long time. Well, then it's good. I imagine he laughed as well. Yeah. I bet he did. So, yeah. Basically, though, we've thought of a strategy for this week, specifically you. We're going to lay off Mackenzie Mustache for a week. Take a week off, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Lay low. Yeah, that's right. See what he does. See what he does. See if he makes the first move. Next week. Nail him. Hit him again.
Starting point is 00:49:02 Yeah, we're going to hit him again. Yeah. And I've got another strategy for next week which I will unveil oh I love it at a later date so this week
Starting point is 00:49:09 Mackenzie mustache lay low just keep it down just that's right real cool maybe just maybe put some stuff in your drafts folder
Starting point is 00:49:17 that's right yeah if you think it's something absolutely yeah chuck it in there let him think that we've given up yeah but we'll never give up
Starting point is 00:49:23 he'll give up first. He will quit Gotham before we give up. All right, Mason. Yes. Have you been... We are going to talk about this next week. Uh-huh. The 300 Rides of an Empire film.
Starting point is 00:49:35 We have not seen this movie yet. No. Because just like everybody at home, we're just regular dudes. Just regular Joes. Put on our golden pants one leg at a time. Button up that diamond fly. But yeah, basically
Starting point is 00:49:50 300's out next week. We're going to watch it on Thursday. You're off work at the moment, aren't you? I'm on holidays. So you said there's no excuse for you not to
Starting point is 00:49:57 see it. I have to see all this terrible, terrible pop culture detritus. That's what I have to do because I'm committed to this. It's not going to be great.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Are you looking forward to 300 Rise of an Empire though? I'm not. No. But I guess because I'm on holiday. I admire your honesty. Yeah, it'll be fine. And I admire you being on holiday.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Yeah, it's good isn't it? I admire both of those things. How do you think it's looking though? You've only seen the one trailer, is that right? Yep. Yeah. It's looking more of the same.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Yeah, pretty much. I watched, there's a whole lot of clips released this week. Check them out. Are there any crazy monster people? Yeah, sort of. There's looking more of the same. Yeah, pretty much. I watched, there's a whole lot of clips released this week. Check them out at... Are there any crazy monster people? Well, yeah, sort of. There's a few kind of magical elements. I'm back on board.
Starting point is 00:50:32 Didn't see any monsters per se. Right. But that Hunchback's back. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Hunchback back. Sure, absolutely. And a whole bunch of other stuff, I'd imagine. That's the new dance craze that's sweeping the nation.
Starting point is 00:50:43 The Hunchback back. That's right. The thing is, right, in the first one, it's this kind of pseudo fantasy world yeah and the reason it works because even though it's supposed to be historical it's a retelling it's a retelling because david wenham is telling that story right but in this one i don't know if anybody's actually telling the story i think queen gorgo is telling the story lena heady yep he's telling the story but she's not the david wenham kind of over-the-top storyteller. So, like, they're going to tell
Starting point is 00:51:07 Xerxes' origins in it. And from what I've seen, he is imbued with magical powers and he becomes a giant gold man and whatever. Ooh. But that's not... I'm like,
Starting point is 00:51:16 is it a magical world or is it not? I'm confused. I'm back on board. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay, I'm excited now.
Starting point is 00:51:23 So, okay. I'm not going to watch any of the trailers because I don't want to know how gold he is. I don back on board. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Okay, I'm excited now. I'm not going to watch any of the trailers because I don't want to know how gold he is. I don't want to know if his goldness compares to the goldness of my trousers. But I'm back. I'm going to watch the Aladdin's film.
Starting point is 00:51:35 So you're back on board from just these few I just say magic and you're in. Weird, right? Yeah. Does anybody throw a fireball? I hope so. There's a lot of there's a lot of kind of looks like the bloom is turned really high up
Starting point is 00:51:49 as well from the clips I've watched I'm like maybe it's my screen but I was like this is really uncomfortably bright right like just really
Starting point is 00:51:56 kind of washed out probably to conceal that the muscles aren't as good probably right well they're not supposed to be as muscular because they're Athenians
Starting point is 00:52:03 they're not 300 also if David Wenham survived in the first 300 should they call that movie 299 that's a legitimate question though no because they killed him immediately after the film they're like look that wasn't a very good story a lot of yeah. Yeah. They stung him with a giant scorpion. They sure did. Yeah. So, David Wenham's in this one, though. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:52:30 But the clip that I saw of him, he doesn't have an eye patch. You know how he loses an eye? Yep. So, I'm assuming maybe he's in a flashback or something. Yeah. And he's got those sweet Wenham abs back. Ooh. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:39 That's right. So, yeah. Were you a fan of the first though? It's okay. I haven't gone back to it. I think I'm going to watch it again this week. You can watch it again as well because you've got so much time on your hands now. I don't want to though.
Starting point is 00:52:50 You really would not. It doesn't interest you. Michael Fassbender's in it. No. Jake Gyllenhaal's in it. No. Tobey Maguire's in it. Oh.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Those second two aren't in it. Just so you know. Okay. But no, I think I'm going to re-watch it this week all right because i think it's let me know how that goes yeah there's a lot of things kind of emulated 300 since 300 so when i when i stayed the trailer for the new 300 when i saw it i was like yeah we've seen a lot of this yeah in between now and then haven't we yeah yeah but it's the number 23 yes um frank miller's things The spirit. I was just trying to think of things with numbers in the title. Okay, right.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Ocean's 13. Thank you. Thank you. Good, good reference. Lucky number, Slevin. Yep, good. Which I think was before. Also, Slevin is not a number.
Starting point is 00:53:37 No, it is. It is? Okay. So, yeah, are you a fan of the comic, though? 300, not really, no. No, me neither. I read it and I'm like, this isn't that... Frank Miller crazy period. Yeah. It's not great, is it, no. No, me neither. I read it and I'm like, this isn't that... Frank Miller crazy period.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Yeah. It's not great, is it? No. So, you know. All right. But yeah, look, that being said, I'm really looking forward to it.
Starting point is 00:53:52 I've also got written here, should it be called 299? Because I thought of that joke and I thought... And then there's the stage direction and it's... the entire audience
Starting point is 00:54:00 laughs for 10 minutes. That's right, yeah. So, yeah, I think we don't really have anything else to say about 300, do we? No, that'll do. Yeah, that'll do minutes. That's right. Yeah. So yeah, I think we don't really have anything else to say about 300, do we? No, that'll do it. Yeah, that'll do it. So yeah. Well, Mason, before we leave, we've got a few segments left. First one being shout outs. Yes. Last week we had zero shout outs. Not enough shout outs. No, no. This week we have many shout outs. Sounds like too many shout outs, but let's see how we go. I agree.
Starting point is 00:54:21 I might have to start culling the shout outs at some point. I don't want to do that. So please send shout outs anyway, regardless. When people send me emails for shoutouts, I generally don't reply because I want them to be surprised. Oh. So if I don't reply to you, it's not because I haven't read it. It might be, certainly. Or he doesn't like you.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Yeah, that's right. It could actually be those things. But you'll never know until it gets read out. Or not. Oh. So yeah, first one is Diego Castro. He's got a page on Facebook called The General Page of Nerdiness. Oh.
Starting point is 00:54:50 And it's relatively new and he's already got 1,500 likes. And he puts a whole lot of pop culture and movies and comics and all sorts of television stuff up on there. I'm going to get on that. Yeah, get on that. I haven't liked it yet for some reason, but I checked it out. Because you're a horrible man. Yeah, I know. And it's great.
Starting point is 00:55:02 So I will like it. Yeah. That being said, I'm kind of annoyed That he's got more likes On his Facebook page Than we do We don't put Do we put anything On the Facebook page
Starting point is 00:55:09 On the Weekly Planet one When I say we I mean you I knew what you meant Yeah I just put the podcast Oh okay right And that's it
Starting point is 00:55:17 But um Yeah we've got followers Sure We should put photos Of like cute puppies And stuff Oh yeah Like Captain America
Starting point is 00:55:22 Mask And look if you like Puppies and Comics and stuff Patriot, yeah. Like Captain America masks. Look, if you like puppies and comics and stuff. Patriotism. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:55:29 My Facebook page has a little bit more, which I also put everything on. Love it. But not as many as this guy. Shout out. Crushing us. So, yeah, go like that page. I seriously highly recommend it. This next one's from Nolan Bath.
Starting point is 00:55:40 He's 16 from Syracuse in a place. Yeah, I know where it is. You know where it is, do you? Yeah. I don't. He's 16 from Syracuse in a place. Yeah, I know where it is. You know where it is, do you? Yeah. I don't. He's an aspiring film director. He's obsessed with film and comic books and some of his favourite movies are. Would you like me to list them? Yes. The Avengers, Lord of the Rings trilogy, 500 Days of Summer, About Time. Great movie, About Time. The Graduate, which I haven't seen. Alien and Etc. Etc. I assume he means all the Alien films, including Alien vs. Predator. And two. And two, yes. His favourite
Starting point is 00:56:10 comic book characters are Hellboy, Spawn, John Constantine, Nightcrawler, Batman, Superman, Deadpool, Wolverine and many more. So he kind of likes some of the traditional ones, but he's also got some oddball ones in there as well, which is great. That's a good range. Long story short, he was hoping to have a shout out on the next podcast. I say no. Let's just leave it at long story short he was hoping to have a shout out on the next podcast I say no
Starting point is 00:56:25 let's just leave it at that yeah nah give him a shout out thanks for emailing Nolan we appreciate it all those things sound great good luck with the the film directing
Starting point is 00:56:35 I wonder what kind of films that's a good question yeah you should get back to us what do you think would be the what's some as people who are not filmmakers
Starting point is 00:56:43 let's give him some advice I think because he likes 500 Days of Summer some sort of indie film yeah As people who are not filmmakers, let's give him some advice. I think, because he likes 500 Days of Summer, some sort of indie film. Yeah. Start indie and then go into something else. Yeah. Is that what you're saying? I told you my scenario.
Starting point is 00:56:55 What's that? If I were a movie producer, I would not be a movie producer very long because what I would do is one film a year, is one film a year i would produce a film where all the trailers and all the promotional shots and all the like all the cast interviews and stuff like that we all the leaked clips make out like it's a certain type of film and then you go into the film and then 10 minutes in it switches genre like so to be like like a real like it looks like a real quirky like kind of indie comedy you know it's like you know one of It's like a girl and she's trying to make it in the big city and it's New York in the winter and she's hopping around putting her boots on and then she goes out in New York
Starting point is 00:57:32 and she has the quirky best friend and they go to work. And then the boss is like, you've got to go down to the accounting and meet the new guy down there. And she goes down and it's like Mark Ruffalo or whatever. And he's like, you know, he's a real prick
Starting point is 00:57:47 or whatever. They don't get along. Yeah, they don't get along and she's like, oh, this guy, I hate him so much. Ooh, you know. You know sparks are going to fly
Starting point is 00:57:54 or whatever, right? And in the trailer they're like, you know, they're having office pranks and they're doing all this so that, you know, people are running
Starting point is 00:58:01 into filing cabinets and then they like, they have to work late one night and, you know, there's all kinds of... Like Salisbury Hill by Peter Gabriel. Yeah. All that sort of stuff. And then you see them holding hands or whatever.
Starting point is 00:58:15 They're having some moments or whatever. But then the movie's on, right? And she shows up to work and blah, blah, blah. And she meets the accountant and she comes back to her desk. She's like, oh, I can't stand that and then like like a like a mailman delivers something like a box to her desk and she's like what's this well come on don't get any worse and she opens it up and it's like her best friend's like severed head the box and it's just filled with blood and
Starting point is 00:58:39 and it just dwells on it like the camera just dwells on it like you think there's going to be a joke but there's no joke and then what happens is it's just this just this blood-soaked horror film for the rest just just and i'm not even into these kind of films but just like limbs are getting chopped off and it's just a terrifying experience for everyone surprise how do you like that i love it yeah are you are you sold on it being that particular genre? No, it could be anything. So it could be like all of a sudden they get sucked into a computer world. Yes. Or whatever.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Absolutely, yeah. So it's one thing, usually a romantic comedy kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then it becomes something entirely different. Yes. I don't... I think that could absolutely work. I think...
Starting point is 00:59:20 But just the once. No, no. I mean, because then it would get to a point where people would know these are the films that you make. So they go in thinking, what is this going to turn out to be? But I don't want to sharm-a-larn it. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:59:32 You're right. I don't want to be a one-trick pony. Yeah, good point. Also, they'll never give me that job. It's a pipe dream. Maybe Nolan Bath can do that. Absolutely. I hope so.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Don't do that, by the way. No, that's our idea. We've mailed it to ourselves. I just meant because we won't get very far. No, that's true, yeah. So yeah, I don't know. Study up, I guess, on film. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Get out there and make it, I think, is the big thing as well. I think that's the key now. And you've got to start because initially, everything you do initially is terrible. Even though if you don't know it's terrible, you look back and it is terrible. But you've got to go through that phase yeah the trial and error where everything's terrible and you think it's great you're gonna learn the technical standpoint exactly so don't guess get don't get disheartened keep your first videos your first few were just audio well they didn't make any sense just me going
Starting point is 01:00:19 yeah you've seen them yeah yeah if you watch my videos, and I'm not a director in any sense, they're horrible. I mean, I still think I've got a long way to go, because, well, not really. It's movie news. How hard is it, really? You know? But, yeah. It's getting you to get better. So, I'd say just practice.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Read up. Practice. Get out there. Yeah. Yeah. Do it. Alex Damasceno. Now, he's from Brazil, I believe.
Starting point is 01:00:47 Ooh. Well, possibly not, but the thing he sent is from Brazil. He's not in this room right now, certainly. No, that's right. May as well be a billion miles away. He's definitely not from this room. That we know. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:58 He sent a picture courtesy of Warner Brothers Brazil, which is called The Best of Warner Brothers Two Movies. That's what it's translated to. And basically, it's just a Catwoman Green Lantern double pack Blu-ray. Love it. And the title translates to The Best of Warner Brothers Two Movies. Incorrect. And the way it was posted online was Blu-ray double feature from hell.
Starting point is 01:01:25 So I thought that was really, really amusing. I mean, I guess they know they're crap, so they're just like, just chucking them together. Do you think they should cross over just the really bad stuff? Yeah, why not? Who cares? Exactly. Call it like the Z-listers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Just like Catwoman, Green Lantern, team them up. Yeah. Do you remember we were on that hunt one time? Because you go to a supermarket here, and it might be the same overseas, but they've got like a triple pack DVD. And the first two make sense. Like there might be transporter one, transporter two. And then the third one's like meet the fuckers.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like they don't go together. And I've always been on a mission to find the weirdest one possible. And I remember I saw one once, but I didn't have my phone. I didn't take a picture. And I can't remember what it was. And I've never found one once, but I didn't have my phone. I didn't take a picture. I can't remember what it was and I've never found something weirder. Wow.
Starting point is 01:02:08 That's great. Alex says something else though, Mason. Yes. And I wanted to throw this open to the people and to you. He also recommends in the podcast that we use background music because sometimes when there's a silence, he's terrified that we've both died.
Starting point is 01:02:22 That's right. And that his players stopped or whatever. Or something like that. What do you think about background music in podcasts? I think we should start it at level 10 volume, like next week. Yep. And then ramp it down until the complaint letters stop. And then we'll find a good level.
Starting point is 01:02:40 So you want to do the background music? No. Okay. Maybe we'll try it. I'm not a fan of it in podcasts. I can sometimes find it distracting. But I'm open to doing it if people are up for it. Also, I'm learning the mandolin, so if we could...
Starting point is 01:02:53 Can you mandolin and podcast at the same time? I'd like to think so, yeah. Okay, good. So yeah, I'm not saying no. I'm saying let's chuck it out there. Yeah. But probably not. Hey, let me check.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Moment of silence. Yeah, that'd work. Totally. Yeah. I just can't think... The real problem with it is that I can't think of any kind of piece of music that would blend in enough that you wouldn't notice it. Because otherwise people would be like,
Starting point is 01:03:19 why are you playing that fucking song for an hour or whatever? But yeah, I know. Open to it, as I said. Or Bangarang by Skrillex. Oh, yeah. That's a good one. Ziggy Fana from Iceland. He sent us an email.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Iceland, isn't that great? I was going to say it. All over the place. I know, right? You know what I learnt about Iceland? It's not as icy as you'd think? Yeah. From The Mighty Ducks 2.
Starting point is 01:03:39 I don't know whether this is true. They say Greenland is more icy and Iceland is more greeny. Yes, correct. So there you go. I don't know whether that's true. Maybe he can email us back. Or maybe we could look it up.
Starting point is 01:03:48 Maybe he'll be killed in an ice flow. I hope not. No, it won't happen. It'll be fine. Because it's all... It's quite greeny out there. It's quite so green. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:54 He used to be a radio host, which is great. Oh, he's going to criticise us, isn't he? That's what he said. Yeah. The next is just a barrage of insults. No, he said, I'll be thinking about starting my own podcast someday. Yeah, absolutely. Go for it. so he also sent through
Starting point is 01:04:07 and I gotta send these to you he sent us extreme comic book 90s versions that he'd found online so like there's like extreme Thor extreme Wolverine or whatever
Starting point is 01:04:15 I love extreme stuff they're great I'll look through them they're really terrific yeah yeah so maybe I'll put them on Twitter or whatever yeah
Starting point is 01:04:20 but I'll show you those as well I love extreme I know you do that was the era to live it sure was the peak of live. It sure was. The peak of society was 99 as we've established. Yeah, that's what it was, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:28 So, yeah, there you go. Thanks, Ziggy. Really appreciate it. Absolutely, thank you. Yeah. Tristan Leck. The 26th of February is his birthday, and the only gift he requests is for me to tell you that you're a son of a bitch.
Starting point is 01:04:40 Okay, go for it. I'm ready. You're a real son of a bitch, Mason. What do you think of that? Happy birthday, Tristan.. I'm ready. You're a real son of a bitch, Mason. What do you think of that? Happy birthday, Tristan. It's for a good cause. I feel like I could have sold that better. You want to do it again?
Starting point is 01:04:53 You're a real son of a bitch. Do it like Bryan Cranston would do it. There's a monster! You're a son of a bitch! There we go. Great. Alright, happy birthday. Thanks, Tristan. Jonathan Boozer. B-O-O-Z-E-R. That sounds right. All right. Happy birthday. Thanks, Tristan. Jonathan Boozer. B-O-O-Z-E-R. That sounds right.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Sounds right? Sounds right? Yeah. He actually sent us some free comics in Dropbox. A Savage Hawkman and Justice League, which I've yet to read, but I've downloaded them. I'll send them to you as well. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:05:18 I know, right? What a great bloke. What a booze. Good on him. I've kind of flicked through and they look really good, but I haven't had a chance to read them, but I will. That will also, let's chuck those in a what we read and what we're going to read, because you said people throw in what you're reading and we'll include it. We are done going to read them.
Starting point is 01:05:31 That's right. Check out Savage Hawkman and whatever version of that Justice League is. I can't remember. Is it Justice League 3000? Can't remember. Okay. Yeah, I feel bad. Anyway, he also read the Thanos Imperative graphic novel,
Starting point is 01:05:43 which is great. And he said also, if you like the New 52 Aquaman, then definitely read the new 52 Savage Hawkman. Where they made Hawkman way more badass. Love it. Badass? Badass? For me, I can't say it like that. Say it like Bryan Cranston.
Starting point is 01:05:57 You're a monster! No. Badass. Badass? We say badass. We do, yeah. That's what I say. I love it.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Yeah. This city's being Monsters of Monster Do you want to do it? I'll think of something good Okay good Yeah so Just like Aquaman So you know the new Aquaman
Starting point is 01:06:16 Is pretty cool Yeah Apparently it's the one In that vein Absolutely love it You also said He takes issue with the movie Man of Steel
Starting point is 01:06:22 Okay I'm ready I'm ready to fight I'm ready to fight. I'm ready to have an online feud. I think he's got a good point. Take your best shots. He's got a good point. He says that if there was a seasoned Batman in this world that existed, why was he sitting around when this happened and not infiltrating the ship or something?
Starting point is 01:06:39 Ah, that's a really good point. Yeah. Go on, attack him. Bryan Cranston style. Yeah, but I mean, seasoned Batman probably hasn't encountered any outer space threats yet. Probably not. Like, seasoned, he'd probably have the jet and he'd have the car and he'd have the boat. And the grey in his stubble.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Yeah, he'd have the grey in his stubble, which you love. Yeah. But I don't think he'd have a space shuttle yet. Fair enough. Well. Maybe after this. Yeah. Maybe after this.
Starting point is 01:07:02 A bit of Crash Kryptonian technology. That's it. Make his own little bat space shuttle. Yeah. Thank you, Jonathan. Well. Maybe after this. Yeah. A bit of Crash Kryptonian technology. That's it. Make his own little bat space shuttle. Yeah. Thank you, Jonathan. Yeah. I think Mason has proven beyond a doubt that he's the best comic book guy. Yes.
Starting point is 01:07:14 So Wade Reese also emailed. He said, do you think there'll ever be a Weekly Planet movie on the big screen? I'm going to say a definitive no, because why would that be ever a thing? I'm going to say definitive yes, because you can't tell me what to do. I'm out. If there's a movie, I'm gonna say the definitive no because why would that be everything I'm gonna say definitive yes because you can't tell me what to do I'm out if there's a movie I'm out you have to get somebody else I'm gonna get Adam Driver how do you like that you know why cuz he's average looking how do you like that buddy oh yeah do you think he's got the nuance to play me I kind of say he was really good that's true I don only thing I do is I shout.
Starting point is 01:07:47 And I have personal vendettas. That's kind of what I do. He can do that, I think. And then I plead for calm if there's a comic book movie freakout. Those are kind of my things that I do. Yeah. So I'm kind of all over the shop. I think he could do that.
Starting point is 01:07:58 I think he nailed that, yeah. There you go. Sure. I mean, I don't know why that would ever be a movie. Yeah, but you know. Mark Maron has a TV series now. Does he? Shoot for the Stars. We could get a TV series. I mean, I don't know why that would ever be a movie. Yeah, but you know, Mark Maron has a TV series now. Does he? Shoot for the stars.
Starting point is 01:08:07 We could get a TV series. I think so, yeah. We're never getting a TV series. We could both be the new Doctor Who. I think that's probably... We can shoot for that, right? Jesse Will... And you'll be excited about it and I'll be largely ambivalent.
Starting point is 01:08:18 And I'll only show up every four or five episodes. Jesse Wheeler wants a shout out for no reason. Done. I admire his moxie yeah good on your wheeler you did it yeah so yeah uh basically he also suggested for a podcast which i think we should do uh comic book movies not based on superheroes love it you know like your road to perdition yeah your history of violence your ghost world your ghost ghost... Ghost Rider. Yes, ghost with Patrick Swayze. Yeah, ghost... Absolutely, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Ghost Rider. Ghost of Mars. Ghost Dad with Bill Cosby. We should do a ghost episode. Oh, yeah. Ghost Busters, I guess. Ghost Busters. Oh.
Starting point is 01:08:55 It's got to say. Quick, change the topic. Another shout out. Quickly. All right. Another thing was that this happened last week, and this was your mistake. Oh. I'm going to view people about this, including Courtney Heck, a good friend of the show Courtney
Starting point is 01:09:08 Heck. Hey, Courtney. You remember Courtney. Yes. She showed all her friends when we talked about it, and you called them all nerds. Or her a nerd, or I called them dickheads. Look, everybody listening is a nerd. I just...
Starting point is 01:09:20 Let you throw that out there. I'm putting it out there. Sure. You said that Despicable Me 2 was a Pixar movie. Is it a DreamWorks film? It's a DreamWorks film. I should have known because they have DreamWorks face. That's true.
Starting point is 01:09:29 They do have DreamWorks face. Yeah, it's got DreamWorks face, which is that weird cockeyed look where you're like, ooh, am I having fun? I'm quite bewildered, but I'm having fun. That's it. So there you go. I'm sorry. I apologise for besmirching the name of Pixar.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Yeah. With its... Despicable Me 2 is good, right? I don't know. I'm saying it. No idea. But the thing is, well, I remember at the time that was a mistake, but I thought it the name of Pixar yeah with it Despicable Me 2 is good right I haven't seen it no idea but I um the thing is
Starting point is 01:09:46 well I remember the time that was a mistake but I thought it was a funny joke that you made so I just let it ride why derail the joke Mason thank you
Starting point is 01:09:53 when I could let it ride and then bring it up next week and embarrass me in front of all my friends oh there's one on Twitter I just got to pull up that I realised I haven't put in here
Starting point is 01:10:02 can you just give me one minute yes I'm glad you brought that Why not on Twitter? I just got a pull-up that I realised I haven't put in here. Can you just give me one minute? Yes. I'm glad you brought that. Second verse, same as the first. A little bit louder and a little bit worse. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:10:22 Okay. Well done. Seamless. I was going to edit that out, but now I've got to. Don't do it. Joel King says, can you guys commemorate my life in the weekly podcast? I think it seems more epic that way. Love you guys.
Starting point is 01:10:35 First of all, I hope you're not dying, Joel King. Also, I agree. Sure. He sure liked movies, didn't he? No, I think it says commentate, not commemorate. I don't think he's dying. I think it says. I think he means commentate his daily life you did say commentate
Starting point is 01:10:48 you're right I know you're anyway tell you what just put up a little clip of you on YouTube just doing something just hanging out and we'll put a little commentary track over top of that
Starting point is 01:10:59 be like that's a way to make that sandwich or whatever yeah I can't believe I read that as commemorate. I can believe that you misread something. You are a son of a bitch, Mason. I know.
Starting point is 01:11:13 That's two for the price of one. Two for the price of one there. Happy birthday, Tristan. Max Palombella from London. I fucking love London. You know what the thing about London is? Yes. London's great.
Starting point is 01:11:24 I used to live in London. You know that? Fish and chips. Fish and chips, yeah. The problem is, if I fucking love London you know what the thing about London is London's great I used to live in London you know that fish and chips yeah the problem is if I lived in London London Tower Guards yeah
Starting point is 01:11:31 for too long Chavs Chavs yeah I would die yeah because the amount of drinking and debaucheries and what not
Starting point is 01:11:39 yeah it's uh I love London but it would kill me last night I had a deep fried Mars bar oh yeah and it was great
Starting point is 01:11:46 but for a second I think my heart stopped so I think you're right if I went to the land of greasy fried everything I would not know where to stop
Starting point is 01:11:54 it's like you know when you keep feeding a dog it just keeps eating it just keeps going exactly I would just keep eating fried things until I exploded
Starting point is 01:11:59 I went to London a few years ago only for a month so I was like cool it was for a wedding and I was like I'll get super fit before I go was like cool it was for a wedding and i was like i'll get super fit before i go because i know what's going to happen and i got there and then
Starting point is 01:12:09 you immediately stop working out or running or whatever and then i just drank heavily for three weeks these just got way out of hand anyway it got to about week three and i was out and i'm having a good time or whatever and then my body just shut down just went nah stop And I just like shut down I had to go home Wasn't drunk It was like 9 o'clock They just went you fucking idiot Take yourself home
Starting point is 01:12:33 So I did And then yeah And then when you come back to Australia You gotta get you know Back into the healthy again And that's incredibly painful Yeah It's so painful
Starting point is 01:12:43 So just be either really healthy or really unhealthy. Don't jump in between. Yeah, no middle ground. No middle ground. Don't do that. Yeah. Basically, he had things to say, though, other than me ranting about London. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 01:12:53 You like London, right? Yes. Yeah. Thoughts on the new 52 City of Ours, Court of Ours storyline. Well, you'd love it. I love it, yeah. You'd love it. If you haven't read it yet.
Starting point is 01:13:03 I haven't read it yet. We've got copies right there in the other room. I'll give them to you. Oh, thank you. Yeah. You have to give them back, though. In mint condition. They're worth a lot of money.
Starting point is 01:13:09 But they're not in mint condition now. Like, they've got, like, dog bites and stuff in them. This smith in fish and chips from London. Yeah, that's right. You weren't even there when you bought them.
Starting point is 01:13:20 I don't understand. You had grease imported from London and you covered them. You're a mean man he also said do you think the Max Landis
Starting point is 01:13:29 death and return of Superman would work as a film apart from the Mon-El Zod twist have you watched that video yes
Starting point is 01:13:36 yeah what do you think I think it would work perfectly I think it would be an excellent Justice League movie even the Mon-El Zod twist
Starting point is 01:13:44 but you couldn't do it now because Zod's already I was going to say you'd need another reboot yeah give it a couple more years I think it would be an excellent Justice League movie. Even the Mon-El Zod twist. You couldn't do it now because Zod's already exist. I was going to say you'd need another reboot. Give it a couple more years, I think we can do it again. Once they've driven this one to the ground. That's right. I think that's a great comic book storyline or potential movie storyline.
Starting point is 01:13:58 Which we'll never see. Precisely, yes. Absolutely, Justin. I do think that would be good. Maybe they can animate it? Yeah. One more shout out, Mason. I'm think that would be good. Maybe they can animate it? Yeah. Yeah, okay. One more shout-out, Mason. I'm ready. Justin Hayden from Tennessee. Oh. He said he didn't ask for a shout-out,
Starting point is 01:14:12 but I'm giving him a shout-out anyway. What if he doesn't want a shout-out? Well, too bad. Oh. Nah, basically he said he and his wife are four weeks out from having a baby. Oh, congratulations. Very exciting, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:23 And basically... Boy or girl, do we know? Are we going to be a surprise? Are we going to be a surprise? It's a baby. Oh, congratulations. Very exciting, yeah. And basically... Boy or girl, do we know we're going to be a surprise? Are we going to be a surprise? It's a surprise. For us. Yeah. Sure. And he can see himself staying up late with a baby, you know, rocking it to sleep and listening to our podcast.
Starting point is 01:14:35 Oh, that's lovely. Isn't that really nice? That's lovely. I saw that, warmed my heart. Yeah. Warmed my London damaged heart. I think maybe you're going to have to get the kid used to Bryan Cranston yelling. Yeah. That might. That's it, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Maybe if you just have him listen to this episode and then take him to Godzilla. Yeah. Everything will be fine, yeah. That's right. Just get him prepped. It's going to be great. Get him, yeah. Get him ready.
Starting point is 01:14:59 So isn't that a really nice thing to say? That's lovely, yes. He also, Justin Hayden. Also, what he might be saying is that we're quite boring and that we'll lull the child to sleep. I'll take that. Yeah, it's fine. But Justin Hayden's email also leads us into what we read and what we're going to read for this week, Mason.
Starting point is 01:15:14 I think we need a theme song for that. I agree. Anybody out there, do a theme song or Mason's going to sing one next week. I'm ready. Basically... It might be a rap as well. I hope so.
Starting point is 01:15:26 You to lay down like a mid-90s beat. Yeah. And then. That's why you've been wearing the backwards hat. That's great. It all comes together.
Starting point is 01:15:34 Justin Hayden recommended Wake. Scott Snyder who wrote the New 52. He's writing the New 52 Batman. It's called The Wake or Wake.
Starting point is 01:15:41 I can't remember. It's one of those two. Right. It's basically about an underwater kind of monster-ish kind of story. But it's more to it than that. It's a post Wake or Wake. I can't remember. It's one of those two. Right. It's basically about an underwater kind of monster-ish kind of story. But it's more to it than that. It's a post-apocalyptic future.
Starting point is 01:15:49 And it's kind of a bit like Aliens in the Ocean, a bit mixed with Waterworld. And it's in two volumes. Those are all my favorite things. I know, right? Part one to five is set in the present day. And the second part, which I'm not going to spoil, it's a different thing. But they're obviously connected. It's a fantastic read. There's six issues out.
Starting point is 01:16:06 I read all six this week. Wow. Great recommendation from Justin. And it's a great comic. So I'd definitely check out The Wake, or Wake, starring with Scott Snyder. There you go. He's really one of, we're very lucky to have so much Scott Snyder material at the moment, I think.
Starting point is 01:16:22 Until he goes crazy. I think all the Snyders. Yeah, sure. I think all the Snyders. Yeah, sure. It's great having all the Snyders out there, you know? Roy Schneider? Yep. Or is it Rob Schneider? Both of them.
Starting point is 01:16:31 Or Roy Scheider? Zach Scheider. Yes. All of them. All of them. The whole Snyder, Schneider, Scheider family. David Schwimmer. Yep.
Starting point is 01:16:41 He's back in a big way. Yeah, you showed me before. Yeah. Before we started the podcast, you showed me a picture of David Schwimmer for some reason. Why back in a big way. Yeah, you showed me before. Yeah. Before we started the podcast, you showed me a picture of David Schwimmer for some reason. Why was that again? Because he's great. Is he?
Starting point is 01:16:50 No. Anyway, there we go. What done you are reading? That was what I was reading. Oh, good. I read it. He recommended it. I read it and it's great.
Starting point is 01:16:58 It is great. Yeah. I've got something else, but I'll talk about it next week. Well, I'm done going to recommend True Detective, which I am. Yeah, sure. And I'm done going to be reading a quarter of hours, evidently.
Starting point is 01:17:06 Yeah. If I can prize them out of your hands. You know, actually, something that I just re-read quite recently. Sure. It's an image comic called The Infinite Vacation. Okay. Which is...
Starting point is 01:17:16 It's a limited series, which took... There were some, you know, three or four month breaks between issues, but it's all out now. And it's about a world in which parallel universes have been discovered. I know this one.
Starting point is 01:17:28 And there's an app, because there's an app for everything now, where you can sort of put your life on the marketplace and trade your life with a parallel universe version of yourself. Like an infinite number of... Yeah, an infinite number. So you could potentially trade your life. If you just work in an office, you could find a millionaire who wants to work in an office.
Starting point is 01:17:50 A millionaire version of you from a parallel universe who wants to work in an office. And you can swap lives with him. That's it. Or what have you. If you want to live in a crazy post-apocalyptic society, you can do that as well. But it's about a guy who discovers that all the parallel universes... Ah! No, this is the...
Starting point is 01:18:06 Okay. Yeah, the opening. It's the first season. Okay, gotcha, yeah. So he discovers that many of the parallel universe versions of him are disappearing. Oh, that's right. He has to find out why. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 01:18:15 So, yeah, yeah, yeah. You recommended that to me a few years ago. Yeah, yeah. And I read the first one and went, that was really great. And then nothing came out forever. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I have never finished that. So that's all out now it's all I'm gonna go
Starting point is 01:18:26 check that out right now please do see you in hell Mason and listeners oh no this is taking a turn again so yeah I guess that's the show for the week fantastic now we were
Starting point is 01:18:38 gonna do real-life superheroes next week which was recommended by Phoenix Jones real real life superhero. That's right. So that's a bit of a conflict of interest, I think. Cesar Chaparro, Chap Arrow. Chap A-R-R-O.
Starting point is 01:18:52 He recommended that. So you owe him thanks, Mason. I think it's Chap Arrow. I think he's a real life superhero. He's like a British type and he's got a bowler hat. And he's like a green arrow, but he's Chap Arrow. I hope that's true me too if not get on that yeah we will do arrows are cheap absolutely and bowler hats yes they are we won't do that next
Starting point is 01:19:11 week we're doing 300 next week we'll trudge through 300 through 300 and then we'll probably do the week after unless there's some big adam driver news i hope so in case we come back to that yeah adam driver is the anti shia labotte Booth. Maybe you're right. Yeah. I hope he beats up Charlotte Booth. Oh, that'll cover our Charlotte Booth news. I hope he out-acts him in an act-off, and then he beats him up. And then he gets the role as Nightwing in Superman vs. Batman, and then we've covered all our bases.
Starting point is 01:19:38 That's right, yeah. We certainly have. Absolutely. So that's the show for the week. Thank you for listening, guys. Absolutely. Big news episode this week. Sometimes we'll probably just do that every now and then if there's a lot of news
Starting point is 01:19:46 there was so much news and shout outs there sure was so yeah I might have to start limiting the shout outs because I'm not sure people want to hear
Starting point is 01:19:53 like 20 minutes of shout outs leave them at the end it's fine yeah you're right yeah alright Mason have a good week yeah enjoy your holiday
Starting point is 01:19:59 you son of a bitch oh I'm gonna that one was from me as well just so you know three in a row he's got five weeks off. Yeah, it's gonna be great.
Starting point is 01:20:07 You jerk. That. You getting up to anything? No. I might go to Adelaide for a bit. Why? I mean, great. I meant why.
Starting point is 01:20:16 Yeah, no, I was... You know the only place that's worse than Adelaide? What's that? Canberra. Good. We'll edit this out. Anyway. All right.
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