The Weekly Planet - 513 Argylle (from the Twisted Mind of Matthew Vaughn)

Episode Date: February 5, 2024

We're back with another episode to talk about Matthew Vaughn's latest, Argylle. But on the way there we talk the passing of Carl Weathers, 28 Years Later moves ahead, casting for Supergirl, the terrible reacion to Suicide Squad: Kill The Justice League, trailers for Ghostbusters Frozen Empire, Monkey Man and The Ministry Of Ungentlemenly Warfare plus the fallout from Madam Webb and SPUMM. Thanks for listeningVisit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Please be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start02:38 Carl Weathers RIP07:56 28 Days Later Movie10:52 New Supergirl Cast14:48 Suicide Squad Game Reactions (story spoilers)20:54 Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire Trailer22:04 Monkey Man Trailer25:21 Pop Tart Movie First Look26:32 The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare Trailer27:28 The Latest from Madame Web and SPUMM34:33 MCU's Thunderbolts Casting Changes35:13 Argylle Movie Review (spoilers 49:31 to 01:05:17)01:05:17 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:10:26 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of The Weekly Planet, where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday, and with me as always is my co-host, Nick Mason. And I also welcome you to the podcast. Oh, wow. It's very zen of you. I know you're not like that, though.

You're weirdly aggressive. It's not true. It is true. I'll kill you. It is true. I'll kill you. I'll lay you. I don't even care.

Great. This is going to work out really well for us. This is a legally binding contract, too. I agree. So the theme song has slightly changed. We'll talk about it more towards the end of the show. Wow, people will be on tenterhooks. No doubt.

Gabriel Tice Bruton did the original one and a new one. We'll talk about it. We'll talk about it, Mason. Don't even worry about it. Because this week, of course, it's a big time to talk about Matthew Vaughan. From the twisted mind of Matthew Vaughan. So twisted. His new film, Argyle.

But before we get there, of course, we've got the news of the week. We've got the passing of Carl Weathers. Boo, by the way. Hate that news. I hate it also. Don't like reporting that. We're going to talk about 28 years later, the sequel to 28 Weeks Later, which is a sequel to 28 Days Later.

Oh, yeah. We've got a new Supergirl. Huh? Oh, that's right. It's Australia's own. That's right. We're going to talk a bit about Suicide Squad Kills the Justice League, the video game about how it's bad and everyone hates it. And neither of us have played it, correct? No, that's true. So maybe it's right. We're going to talk a bit about Suicide Squad Kills the Justice League, the video game, about how it's bad and everyone hates it.

And neither of us have played it, correct? No, that's true. So maybe it's great. Trailers Ahoy for Ghostbusters, Monkey Man, and the Minister of Ungentlemanly Warfare. Then we've got a big – The Ministry, not the Minister. It's not about a guy.

Oh, yeah. Minister. It's not about bloody making resolutions in Parliament. Amen, brother. Although it would be nice if some of them bloody did, those clans in parliament. But they were good resolutions. They were good ones, though.

Yeah, for once, yeah. And then we've got big spam news, which is the Sony Pictures universe of Marvel movies. Great. We're talking Spider-Man 4. We're talking Kraven the Hunter. We're talking Madame Web. All of these things we're going to be covering.

I have in my notes here Dakota Johnson news, brackets assorted. Yeah, that's right. She'd said some stuff. She's done some stuff. Normal stuff. Normal stuff. I think rational stuff given the circumstances. Totally.

That you found yourself in a Sony Marvel movie. You found yourself in it, yeah? Yeah, you woke up and you're like, ah. Oh, no. You're on a couch or whatever and you're like, what's happened? There's an overturned script and there's i've got i'm wearing a costume with too many lines on it what happened where am i i'll just have a look at the script oh no oh three movie deal that won't happen

oh there's 17 writers on this why what happened it happens to all of us i'm not even on on a couch. I'm on a green screen. The screen is in. So, yeah, there's time codes below. Rob Colleagues, who edits this, is always kind enough to do that. That's right. Let's kick things off with this. In terrible news, Carl Weathers has passed away at age 76.

All we know at the moment is, according to his family, he died peacefully in his sleep. That's good. Small blessings, I guess. Now, people would be familiar with Carl Weathers, but just to name a few of the roles that he has played. Go on. Apollo Creed. Legendary. In one to four of the Rocky

movies. Iconic. Amazing. He's Dylan in the, not The Predator. He would never. That's true. In Predator. They've got that iconic handshake. Yeah. And then he gets his arm plasma gunned off. That's right. And his gun keeps firing.

It does. Chubbs in Happy Gilmore, also missing an arm or hand. Yeah, that's right. Comedic role. Well, speaking of, he plays himself in Arrested Development. Yes, he does. That's right. To great effect.

So, I mean, what you learn about going over his career, he hasn't had as many leading roles as some people in hollywood but every single one of these iconic yep you know oftentimes people talk about what's what's an actor that appears in stuff and and anytime they pop up you're like yes yep this is going to be improved grief karger in the mandalorian yes and no he also directed some episodes yeah yeah well Well, I mean, like there's so many stories about this sort of stuff. Apparently John McTiernan got Carl Weathers in for Predator because like Arnold he had like a sports background

because he was in the NFL and, you know, he's also like a, you know, a huge guy who works hard on that look. And he's like, well, Arnold's just sort of starting his acting career and, you know, he needs someone to model good acting on and like a lot of a lot of stars you know in a movie like that will just do their lines and then go back to their trailer but apparently like arnold was sort of transfixed on carl weathers is like oh this is how you do it kind of yeah this is how you go from sports and and and that to And here's how you move as a big guy on screen kind of thing. And that's, you know, so that was, you know,

Carl Weathers is sort of, you know, some of the grounding for Arnold's biggest work kind of thing. I believe it. And also, speaking of Arrested Development, I don't know if you were aware of this, but Mitch Hurwitz, who created Arrested Development, was like, we need a guy to contrast against david cross as tobias yeah and we want to do like uh and he mentioned before he got cast in the show there's a mention of he tobias did one

of carl weathers courses i can't remember what it was for maybe public speaking or something like that but i but the idea was we'll bring carl weathers in and we do like a rocky style montage where they're running on the beach kind of thing right and so he called up carl weathers and he's like we would love to get you on and working with david cross and carl weathers is like it's not going to be a bunch of rocky stuff is it mitchell it's just like no i don't even know what you're talking about i don't know why would it be that and yeah yeah and and weathers is like because you know i direct and i do all this sort of stuff and you know what if I had some comedic stuff to do? What about this?

What if I play myself and my character is I'm really, really cheap? Because he keeps giving advice for how to get a stew going. Yeah, he's like, baby, you've got a stew going. There's also a moment where there's an incident at a restaurant and everybody's been horrifically injured and all this sort of stuff. And Carl Weathers is just out the front and he's got all these leftovers and one of those foil swans and he's like yeah i've been i've been badly traumatized and i'm i'm a i need compensation still gonna interview the camera anyway love love love carl weathers it was action

jackson of course yeah i've never seen that but yes no it's good. So the video game Mercenaries Playground of Destruction is an incredible open world kind of – the guys who make the original Battlefront games. Oh, right. And Carl Weathers' voice is one of the three protagonists in that, one of the three you can pick who's great. So just, yeah, this one kind of surprised me because, you know, by all accounts he seemed happy and healthy and popping up in things and doing action sequences still

and all of that and directing. So, yeah, this really sucks. I just saw this on Twitter. Do you mean X? No, absolutely not. This is a tweet from Ian Milham who works with ILM VFX. So he was on a bunch of stuff for The Mandalorian. And he says, I was in the food line on Mando season one

and on the dessert table they had ice cream and also some cookies. I decided to freestyle and put a scoop between some cookies. Just as I made my creation, a booming joyful voice called out behind me. I turned around. It was Apollo Creed himself. He bellowed, ice cream sandwich. He winked his approval at me. I floated for the rest of the day.

No doubt. I think that's great. Oh, I think about that for the rest of my life every day. Every goddamn day. There's a bunch of really good tributes out there, including the ice cream sandwich one. Stallone did a really good one on his Instagram. People wanted to check that out as well. And he's in front of that iconic Rocky 3 painting.

Yeah. Which is, yeah. And the reason that that series is such a iconic Rocky III painting. Yeah. Yeah, which is, yeah. And, you know, and the reason that, you know, that series is such a smash hit is because it's an iconic protagonist and it's iconic. It's not a villain but just a, you know. No, you see him develop over the movies as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, which is a credit to the writing, I guess, also. Yeah. But, you know, who writes anything really? And then they punched each other. And they punched each other. Right at the end. Yeah, man, absolutely. Anyways, we've got to move it along, but terrible news.

But amazing person and body of work. That's right. Yeah, he's via THR. 28 years later is happening, Mason, at Sony. After a furious bidding war, you might have been hearing the rumors and the rumblings. I haven't. So there was.

So Danny Boyle. I think that already exists, another one. We'll do it. We'll do it. We'll do it. So before there was Fast Zombies in Dawn of the Dead 2004, there was Fast Zombies. They're not technically zombies. It's a rage virus, whatever.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. In Danny Boyle's 28 Days Later, which was written by Alex Garland, who people might know from Ex Machina, and he's gone on to direct a bunch of movies. But he wrote a lot of Danny Boyle stuff, including your favorite movie, the movie Sunshine. So it looks as if, not looks as if, it's happening. Both Danny Boyle and Alex Garland are returning as writer and director.

But they've switched. No, Mason, they've not switched. Well, not for this one at least. Not even for fun? No, no, no. Not even for one scene? They don't do jokes. Not even Quentin Tarantino, Robert Rodriguez style?

They're going to switch for a scene? Oh, by the way, we recently did a commentary on the first one of this. That's right. 28 days later, it's on bigsandwich.co. So the sequel is part of a package that includes a sequel film. So there's other things going on there. They might try to franchise this out. Multimedia, I like it.

That's right. However, Boyle will only direct the first project with its sequel to be directed by a yet as of unknown director. Could be us. Could be us. Could be us. The other thing is, so there was talk of this like a decade ago where they were going to make 28 months later. That's right.

But now it's nearly been 28 years. So if I miss this window, it's going to have to be 28 decades later. And that's too long. That's way too long, isn't it? It's way too long. I think all the zombies would be dead by then. Yeah, they'd all be dead by then. So, yeah.

Look, if you haven't seen those movies, in particular the first one, they're well worth checking out. They star, well, the first one does, Killian Murphy. Jeremy Renner's in the second one, inexplicably. So Killian Murphy is also going to produce, and there's speculation that he could return to the zombie universe. That's right. Not to spoil, I guess, the fact that he doesn't die in that first movie.

But he nearly did. There was a deleted scene where he did die, Mason, but he didn't. Good movie. Horrifying. I feel like that's a fairly common thing in zombie media is there's always a deleted scene where the main characters either die or didn't die, like whenever the opposite happened in the movie. Sure, yeah.

There's a version where they're like- Do we do the bleak one? Yeah. Do we do the bleak one? Do we do the bleak one? Yeah. Do we do the bleak one? Do we do the bleak one or the extra bleak one? Because we could do the one where he dies or we could do the one where he's the only one who's still alive.

Just a thought. We could do that one. He's all alone in the world. You could do both. If I'm worse than death. You could do both. You could do both. We could do both.

Sometimes they do both. That's true. So, yeah, I'm very excited for this, but I just didn't think it would happen. I mean, I didn't think Trainspotting 2 would happen with Danny Boyle and that ended up going ahead, didn't it? But they didn't call it porno, which Trainspotting 2, the book, is called. That's true, yeah.

Yeah, which is confusing for me when I was going into the movies and it wasn't called porno. Excuse me, one ticket for porno, please. One ticket for porno. Haven't people been coming in all week and asking for tickets to porno? Specifically one ticket? So Mason, in casting news, it's been confirmed that Millie Alcock is Supergirl slash Kara Zor-El, who is the younger cousin of Superman.

That's right. Though not initially. So explain Supergirl, go. So the premise is that, of course, Superman was shot to Earth from Krypton in his little rocket ship. Sometimes with a dog and a monkey and other things. That's exactly right. Another family on Krypton, the cousins, were like,

hey, let's send Supergirl, who's like already a grown-up teenage girl, in her rocket and she can show up first and she will look after baby Kal-El. But then due to time dilation or space fog or whatever. One of them went through a wormhole. Yeah, a wormhole. It's probably a wormhole. He arrives first and grows up into Superman, and then she arrives, but she's still a girl.

So the old switcheroo. Absolutely. Now, people might know her. She's Australian. That's right. From a recent Game of Thrones. She's also in a TV series, Upright, which is a great Australian series with Tim Minchin also.

I've only seen the first series, which I really enjoyed. I haven't seen season two. I like her a lot. I think this is a great choice. I think Minchin also. I've only seen the first series, which I really enjoyed. I haven't seen season two. I like her a lot. I think this is a great choice. I think she's going to nail this. Great, love that. Even though we just had a Supergirl who I also like. Slash Carl, yeah.

She's stuck in the Ezra Miller slash Michael Keaton slash George Clooney universe. The bleak ending. The bleak ending, that's right. Should we have a bleak ending where she's constantly being killed or should we have the even bleaker ending, that's right. Should we have a bleak ending where she's constantly being killed? Or should we have the even bleaker ending where she's alive but she's stuck in the old DC Flash universe?

I think initially, because we don't see her come back. She just disappears, doesn't she? I think so, yeah. But I think they did shoot some stuff where she was alive. Great. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, does it? But I understand why they want to get away from that. I think if that movie had have done well, this wouldn't have happened. Also, they can bring her back. That's true.

So this is via James Gunn on Threads, which is his exclusive social media platform. We've talked about this. Zack Snyder has Vero. James Gunn has Threads. I've all got one.

Strangely, Millie was the first person I brought up to Peter for the role well over a year ago when I only had read the comics. I was watching House of the Dragon and thought she might

have the edge. Grace and authenticity we needed for DC's Supergirl. Sounds like the laziest casting ever. Yeah, I was on the couch. I was watching TV. I was watching one of the most popular shows. And I saw one of the two people in it, the lead ones.

And I remember I said blonde. And that'll do. And I didn't call Peter Safran, but he called me. So I picked it. I wouldn't have called. I wouldn't have. But then he rang. He called and I wasn't going to pick up.

But then I was reaching for chips. And I'm like, oh, it's too late to hang up. And he said, you got to do casting? And I went, oh, blonde. And he knew what I meant. He was watching it too. Yeah. So he's also said this before.

So Supergirl is also based off Woman of Tomorrow, which is Tom King's storyline from 2021, which is great if you haven't read it. I have read it. Shut up. So basically we see the difference. He's saying that we see the difference between Superman who was sent to Earth and raised by loving parents

from the time he was an infant versus Supergirl who was raised on a rock. Who's kind of a jerk. Yeah, a chip off Krypton and watched everyone around her die and be killed in terrible ways for the first 14 years of her life. Then she comes to Earth when she was a young girl and she's much more hardcore, not exactly the Supergirl we're used to meeting.

So she was kind of like naive and whatever in that Supergirl movie. And then there was obviously the TV show, which I didn't see a lot of, but people seem to like or not like. I don't know. But I like Melissa Benoist though. But this is going to be closer to what the current comic book version is and not the one where she's a weird white goo person. Yeah, that's right.

Which is also a version of this. Yeah, that's right. The 90s version. Don't worry about it. You worry about it a little bit. There was a moment where in DC Comics where they're like, there can only be one Kryptonian. But then they were like, yeah, but we like all the other Kryptonians,

but we just said. Yeah. Because it's too complicated. If there's an entire city of other Kryptonians, they could just show up and solve everybody's problems immediately. So we can't do that. But we would like to have a Supergirl. So what if she was Goo?

What if she was Goo? She's a Goo woman. Super Goo. She's also more kind of like space savvy than Superman is, initially at least because she spent a lot of time like just milling about. Spacing around, yeah. Spacing around, yeah. Anyways, speaking of a lot of time, spending a lot of time doing a thing.

Suicide Squad. Oh, no, no, no. We've got to celebrate. That's one of the best segues that anyone's ever done. Might be right. Yeah. Suicide Squad kills the Justice League. The game, as mentioned, is bad and everyone seems to hate it.

Allegedly. Allegedly. Now, they didn't give out review codes to any of the major outlets. Not even IGN. No. They wrote a scathing preview thing, which was like, I played this and the headlong was like, I played this and it was bad. Right.

They're doing some mean stuff at the moment, IGN. I'm really enjoying it. We'll talk about one later. Okay. But some people, though, I should point out, like elements of it. Like some people like the gameplay side of thing and the shooting mechanics and some of the traversal because of all the four characters. If you don't know, you play one or four Suicide Squad characters,

it's like King Shark, Harley Quinn, Captain Boomerang, Deadshot. It's set in the Arkham universe of the games. The Justice League turned bad and you're task-forced with killing. Well, they're mind-controlled by Brainiac. Yes. They don't just turn bad on their own. No. But the things that people have been saying.

None of them are like, hey, wait a second, we've got all kinds of crazy superpowers. We should rob banks. Let's do the lasers at everyone. Let's do it. Let's do it. So people are saying it's a buggy launch, lackluster gameplay loop.

Disrespectful was the word I saw thrown around. Let's go through this in order. So speaking of buggy, apparently there was a bug on launch where if you pre-ordered it, you got it before everybody else, as soon as you booted up the game, it went into like the completed game state. Awesome. Easy.

Yeah, exactly. So like when you finish one of these games and you can just kind of free roam around everywhere, you just got that. Yeah. So that's cool. So everybody who paid extra to play it earlier. Got to see the ending.

Just got to see the, yeah, that's great. Yeah, yeah. Some people are like saying some of the story elements are good in themselves, like the interactions between the different characters. Well, I've seen some cut scenes, and I think it's pretty funny. There's a moment where there was a particular cut scene where Deadshot takes a – he's about to take a shot at the Flash,

and he's having an argument with Boomerang who's like, why don't you just post him the bullet? He's the Flash, whatever. And Deadshot's like, no, I got this. And he shoots the round at him. And then you just see Flash is like zip around behind him. And he's like, why didn't you just mail me the bullet? And Boomerang's like, yeah.

And I like the fact that they clearly know each other. And also he said post because he's Australian. He's Australian. And there's the little details. But some of the things that people are saying, and we're going to go into some spoilers here. There's time codes. We haven't played it. And there's the little details. Little details. But some of the things that people are saying, and we're going to go into some spoilers here. There's time codes if you're doing this. We haven't played it.

No, and I'm not going to. This has been unavoidable. And also I just want to point out this is not on the developers that I don't like this kind of thing. Warner Brothers clearly went, make a looter shooter that goes on forever with an infinite gameplay loop where all the characters, you can kill them, but then they come back in DLC or whatever. Yeah, and also I was reading something about this that apparently now

this is intended to be the mindset because it's perceived that gamers are like, well, if you don't give us a live service thing, it's like you're abandoning the game. Yeah. Whereas that's what people used to do with games. I like to play a game and then not play it. Yeah, the game came out and you're like, cool, and you played it until it was finished and you went, good experience,

and then maybe some later they released a new episode or a bonus expansion pack or whatever. Or I play it again in 10 years or whatever. But now people are like, well, it has to come out and then like a few weeks later you get a new thing and a new thing and a new thing. No. Yeah.

I don't want that ever. I don't want it, but some people do apparently. I don't know if they do. Depending on what it is, I guess. I think there's games that are built specifically for that, like your Fortnite. Yeah, yeah. Like your other ones that are akin to that.

Or like it's an ongoing kind of situation with new chapters and gear and whatever. Sure, sure, sure. I think that's – but like this, this is from a studio that exclusively made single-player like video games where you were Batman and you beat up a bunch of people. There's a big storyline and then it ends. And then this is like what they did here when they could have just made a

Superman game or even a Suicide Squad game but a good one that people liked. Like all the old games they made that people liked. Exactly. They could have even done it in the style of Guardians of the Galaxy where you only play as one of the characters but there's a storyline that you go through and whatever and you just speak to your teammates and whatever. That would have been infinitely better than this

and also easier to make. Yeah. So all the – you kill all the Justice League and a lot of it is we found a particular bullet and now we can shoot Superman. So you're just machine gunning Superman for ten minutes in an arena or whatever. Sure. Batman, Kevin Conroy's Batman is shot in the head by Harley Quinn.

Is he, though? Well, here's the other thing. So what they seemingly want to do. Because, first of all, James, everybody's like, this is a really disrespectful Batman way to go out or whatever. First of all, you don't see the bullet go through his head and out the other side, so he didn't die. Yeah.

And even if he did. And even if he did, he's been dead before. And they'll just find another way to bring him back. I mean, the only reason people were upset, I think, really is because it was thought that this was his last performance, which isn't actually true, and we'll talk about that. But, yeah, it's because they want to bring them back in DLC, like Batman's back and whatever, Superman's back and this and that,

et cetera, which who knows how much of that is actually going to come out because this is not doing particularly well. So, anyway, Kevin Conway was rumoured to appear in the next series, et cetera, which who knows how much of that is actually going to come out because this is not doing particularly well. So anyway, Kevin Conway was rumored to appear in the next series, Batman Caped Crusader, which is kind of like a reimagining of Batman the Animated Series. In some role, so maybe not necessarily Batman. But apparently that's not true. But he is going to appear in Justice League Crisis on Infinite Earths

Part 3 as the Batman the Animated Series version. So it looks as if that might be the last appearance which is a good way to end. Absolutely. Look I think also let's say again I haven't even played this maybe I would love it. I definitely wouldn't and I'm never going to play it because I don't encourage this kind of shit Mason. Would you watch all the cut scenes

put together on YouTube? I'd watch some of them and I have whereas I don't think this kind of tarnishes his legacy like it's kind of like I could see where he'd be like, well, this is a bad way to end things. I understand that. But his body of work stands above this. Yeah, but I could also see that if they pitched him,

hey, how about a version of your character where, you know, you do the voice but you're an evil version, et cetera, I think he might be like, that sounds like fun. Absolutely. Yeah. Anyways, are you going to buy it? No. Because it doesn't look good?

And I don't have a PS5. Oh. But if you did? Probably not. Wow, incredible. Yeah. You heard are you going to buy it? No. Because it doesn't look good? And I don't have a PS5. Oh. But if you did? Probably not. Wow. Incredible. Yeah. You heard it here first.

Trailers ahoy. Ghostbusters, new Ghostbusters. God, it's cold. That got a new trailer. It did. I got to say. Yes. As the number one Ghostbusters hater on the internet, that's me, proud of it.

Yeah, yeah. It looks okay. I think so too, yeah. There's some fun stuff in this. Yeah, we got some. And then they're like, the librarian's back. Great, good, love it. Slimer's back, is he?

Good. He is, it's true. That's great. Kumail Nanjiani's back. Oh my God, there's just really, like, just lovingly, like, courteous and beautiful shots of the original Ghostbusters, you know? You better believe it is. Just showing them in all their glory.

Just, they're grubs. Film them like grubs. That's right. Swimming in muck. It's where they belong. Yeah, it looks fun. Yeah, we got some new shots. Janine's there.

Walter Peck is back. Yeah, man. I like that. He's the man now or whatever. Yeah, yeah, that's cool. That's fine. I'm going to be there day one, James. I don't even care what you say.

I'm going to have to be there also. That's right, day one. Day one. Why not embrace it then? You know? Just learn to love Ghostbusters in the next couple of weeks. I'm going to learn to love it, Mason. Too bad. I'm excited. And hopefully it'll be really hot in Melbourne

as well. Oh God, I can't wait for it to be extraordinarily hot again. We've also got a trailer for Monkey Man, which is Dev Patel's John Wick. Everyone's going to John Wick. Sure. God, it looks like a good one, I tell you that much. So he's written, directed, and starring in this?

Yes, and produced by Jordan Peele, it would seem. Yes, so as I understand it. You keep talking, I'm just going to turn the air conditioner off in the other room that I left on because I'm environmentally conscious. Okay, well, I'm going to talk, but I'm going to talk loudly so you can have opinions on this. So as I understand it, Dev Patel is a martial artist, in addition to being an actor, quite an accomplished martial artist. Is there anything you can have opinions on this. So as I understand it, Dev Patel is a martial artist in addition to being an actor, like quite an accomplished martial artist.

Is there anything you can't do? He also won Millionaire that time, remember? That's right. Yeah, man, that's crazy. And he's always wanted to be in an action movie, but they're like, Dev Patel. You're the Green Knight. Exactly.

That's as much action as you'll be getting. That's right. Wow, disrespectful. Enjoy your ambiguous endings, idiot. There's so much disrespectfulness this way. Yeah, that's right wow disrespectful enjoy your ambiguous endings idiots that is just there's so much disrespectfulness this yeah that's right but so he was just like well i'm gonna do it myself uh and um this was gonna go to netflix initially oh god yeah but depending on who you ask as i understand that there's something there's some depiction in it that is maybe uh like it's some conservative governments maybe in India or

something like that and didn't like wouldn't approve of it and so Netflix is like man we're going to kind of shy away from this deal a little bit but then Jordan Peele saw it and was like no this is good stuff this should get a cinema release good and he's right because if it is good it would be nice to be a because some things get a cinema release and you're like oh this is bad you might say wow yeah some things some things are bad some This is bad, you might say. Wow. Yeah, some things. Some things are bad. Some things are bad. Someone paid $23 to see this and it was bad, you think to yourself.

And it goes for two hours and 19 minutes. I thought I'd have some points that I could get my tickets a little cheap but I didn't have any points. Did my points expire? I thought I had points, Mason. Anyway, sorry, go on. But then that's bad. But this one looks good and, again, if it's good,

people will watch it and it'll stay in the public consciousness as opposed to almost anything that comes out on Netflix which will just disappear after literally one day. There was a recent article, and I don't have it in front of me, but I did read it and here we go. I'm going to half remember it. Whereas if you look at the top ten streaming movies

from like last year. Yeah, Ghosted. Ghosted. Every single one of them had a cinematic release. Yeah. So it actually benefits movies. Like a glass on your own? Yeah.

I mean, that's probably not a great example because it barely got a cinema. I'm talking like a proper cinematic release and then it goes to streaming and people are like, oh, I loved that. Or, oh, I heard that was good. Now I'm going to watch it. Yeah. As opposed to something just coming up on your screen and then disappearing the next week.

Oh, I paid $23 for this. Oh, it was bad, but I'll watch it again. Yeah, I got Ricky Gervais' face fucking looking at me on Netflix every week. I'm never going to watch your special, Ricky Gervais. Wow. It's boring. You're boring now. Wow.

I'm going to pop up Netflix right now on my phone and see if I get Ricky Gervais. Let's see what happens. I don't think I've had him for a few weeks, but yeah. New series, Griselda. Yeah, that's the name. What's that? Yes.

You know? Oh, I was going to what's her name? Is that? Yes. You know? It's a fair, it's a fair. Oh, I was going to say, I thought it was Michael Douglas' wife. Oh, Catherine Zeta-Jones. Yes, it looks like Catherine Zeta-Jones. Wales' own. Wales' own Catherine Zeta-Jones. No.

Well. No, Ricky Gervais is gone from my home screen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We think you'll love these. Wrong. Continue watching James Lift, the Kevin Hart movie. No fucking way I watched 21 minutes of that yeah you did who's got access to my netflix account criminals because claire wouldn't have watched hackers and so forth god damn your kids no they wouldn't watch that did

you see oh there was a trailer for pop tarts or some footage with the jerry seinfeld i just saw a written trailer there was just some i think there was a few standards. So they're doing a movie. Another brands one or whatever. Is this a movie? It's a movie. Is it a cinematic release? But it's the Pop-Tarts. The Toasted Treat. Yeah. Cool. Very cool. Unfrosted, the

Pop-Tarts story. Oh, it's the invention of the... Okay, so it's not animated Pop-Tarts getting into adventures. It's who invented the Pop-Tart. Is there going to be some – is there some dark, gritty origin to Pop-Tarts? Here we go. Kellogg's and Post Cereal compete to see if they can produce a revolutionary breakfast pastry in 1963 Michigan.

Unbelievable. This better be like – The funniest. Blackberry where it's like insane. Yeah, Blackberry. Or just like weird where it like – Have Yeah, Blackberry. Or just like weird. Have you seen Blackberry? I have, yeah.

Do you like the bit where he shouts about Waterloo and being a vampire? Yeah. So it has to be either that. Like there has to be insane executives behind this and like a real war of. Sometimes they're good. Tetris was all right. Okay.

Or it has to be like the Weird Al Yankovic biopic where it's just lies. What an incredible movie, by the way. Did you enjoy that? I did enjoy that. Anyway, I've got another trailer for The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare. Oh, yeah. Another Henry Cavill action flick directed by Guy Ritchie.

You like Big Men in Little Glasses? Yes. You're going to get it. Good. Yeah. That's what I like. Some of the bad guys, they're going to get it. They're going to bloody get it.

So this is based off a real unit. I think Christopher Lee was in it as well, maybe. Unless he's a liar. Unless he's a liar, which, you liar which you know i doubt it okay i don't want you can call him out he's dead no he's just spooky ghost now you can call him out in his death no come to me and be like boo i'm gonna read you the works of shakespeare and tolkien and i'm like oh no thank you i'm actually not really feeling that at the moment christopher Lee. It's hot. I can't sleep in the first place. But it does look like a lot of fun. Kind of an Inglorious Bastards-esque kind of feel to it.

He's got a big shotgun. He's shotgunning everybody. There's nothing wrong with that. If it's in a movie. Just to clarify. And you're shooting Nazis. Yeah, for sure. That's just to clarify, Mason. Anyway, we've got to talk about all this Madam Web spam news, Mason. Spam news.

So this first bit's via EW. So this is general Dakota Johnson news, right, and bits and pieces. She spoke to EW. It's like an interview where she's talking about the making of Madam Web and she said, I've never really done a movie where you are on a blue screen and there's a fake explosion going off and somebody's going, explosion! And you act like there's an explosion. That to me was-

This is all the budget we had. We say explosion and the audience fills it in in their minds. That to me was absolutely psychotic. I was like, I don't know if this is going to be good at all. I hope that I did an okay job. Now to be clear, she is on the campaign trail for this movie. Sort of. If people are wondering, no, this didn't come out

six months ago and she's talking about her experience now that it's too late to affect the box office, this is her in full publicity mode, promoting this movie that isn't out yet. Bearing in mind she's the child of two very famous people, so she's probably not right. Oh, that's right. Don Johnson and

Melanie Griffin. Yeah. Yeah, right. But to be fair, like to finish that quote, she said, but I trusted her, director S.J. Clarkson, who has worked on Game of Thrones and other good things, but it is Spum and, you know. Oh, it's Spum, all right. She works so hard and she has not taken her eyes off this movie since we started.

Anyway, there's more things. Sure. She hasn't taken her eye off it just in case anybody steals some props or, you know. Yeah, paints the set a different colour, which is sometimes they'll do. So Variety also had an article this week and it was called, last week, sorry, it was called, As Cinematic Universes Stumble,

Sony Leans Into Standalone Superhero Series With Madam Webb and Kraven the Hunter. So here's some quotes from it. Sony has largely minimised the interconnected nature of the superhero films reshoots to offer up a vague time period. This is from Madam Web. We talked about this last week because they were originally going to put it in the Andrew Garfield universe and, like, that doesn't work,

and then, like, we'll put it in the Tom Holland one. No, that would mean it's in the MCU. Let's just put it in its own universe. And I think I saw one of the taglines which was, like, in a universe you don't know about or whatever. It's something like that. That's right. Imagine a universe where it's alone and it's locked off.

You can't get there. They can't get out either. In a universe you're not interested in. That'll get them, right? Yeah. Reverse psychology because they'll be like, well, you don't tell me what I won't be interested in. Maybe I would be interested.

Oh, no, I won't. So also this is an interesting move. Dakota Johnson, she took a jump from WME to CAA in November. These are management companies. Management companies. This was just days after the baffling first trailer debuted. I don't know if you remember, the Madam Web trailer came out and people were not very comfortable with the goings-on, were they?

No. No, there's a line where it's like, the villain was in the jungle with my mother's stuff. Let me tell you about this, because when we watched the movie we're going to talk about later, there was a version of that on. They've trimmed that quote down. Whoa, to what? They've cut out the before she, because he says,

he was in the Amazon with my mother researching spiders before she died, and they cut out the before she died. Oh, my God, she's back. She might be back, but I think it's also because they're like, that's too much, that's too many words in a sentence. It a sentence it is isn't that it's unpleasant and the more you think about it the more your brain rots away yeah but i thought that was funny like they've gone because what happened what has had to happen there is they've had to go panic stations let's rework this trailer how can we do that keep it the same but trim off three words i i also got the trailer

send it they have to send it to all the cinemas? Crazy. I missed it. I was on my phone for the trailer. I'm going to be real with you, Mason. So, yeah, so she moved management companies after the trailer debuted and this raised industry eyebrows along with a razz in a recent SNL monologue describing the film as like if AI generated your boyfriend's perfect movie,

which also I just want to point out that's really insulting because this is nobody's perfect movie. I haven't seen it yet. No, but it's if AI did it. Oh, like a bad version. Very flawed and bad, yeah. Yeah, fair enough. Now what I think happened here,

and I think the reason she moved to management companies, because I think she blames them for Sony tricking her into doing what she thought was an MCU movie. She probably thought she was going to be like Captain Marvel or whatever. She probably thought that, well, I'm going to be like, you know, Tom Holland, Spider-Man and Tobey Maguire, Spider-Man and Andrew Garfield, Spider-Man. I'm Spider-Woman. So I'm going to be in that unit.

Yeah, that's right. But that's, do your research. I saw somebody. Do your own research. Somebody on Twitter pointed this out. They went to Dakota Johnson and Sidney Sweeney and a couple of other actors' Instagram pages, and when it was announced they were signed on to Madam Web,

they all did a post about it, a little post about the Variety article or whatever it was, and they'd all tagged Marvel Studios on the thing. So I think all of them thought they were signing for Marvel Studios. I knew it. I fucking knew it, Mason. Because of course you'd be furious if you made Morbius accidentally. Anything could be good. Not Morbius, though.

No, that was bad. It was bad. But anything can be good. From this point forward is what you're saying. Because many things in the past have been bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Forget what you know about the past. Because we've said in the past a lot we have said anything can be good.

And then it turns out we've been wrong a lot of times. Yeah, a lot of that is wrong. Mostly Sony Spider-Man pictures. A lot of them are those, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know, it also gives me the benefit of the doubt if they ever accidentally make a good one, I can be, see, I said it could have been good and it was sort of.

Time-coded. Yep. So also there's rumours that Sony want to bring back Andrew Garfield and Tobey Maguire for Spider-Man 4. Of course they would. Don't do that. Leave them in their own universes. Just make it a standalone Spider-Man movie where he has to whatever, okay?

And he's sad about it. Make a parallel universe where it's Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield. They're both Spider-Man in the same universe, but Tom Holland is not there. Yes. And it's just two Spider-Men. Yes. Great.

That's a good idea. I think it's a good idea you can just two aren't maze yeah just put you know what just take andrew garfield and just put him in the raymond universe it's fine right it's fine let's do spider-man it's fine they're both 40 it's fine yeah um also you might remember this so at cinema con 2022 the studio brought bad bunny on stage to announce El Muerto. I remember. Which was going to play the superhuman luchador, which was going to be one of those Sony spin-off Spider-Man movies.

They already have the rights to it, so. Yeah, exactly. But of course, they said here, but his conflicting tour and script revisions now means the project, so he had to leave the project. But here's the thing. We saw an interview where they asked him about it and he was not happy and his PR person was like, obviously that's not happening.

But here's the thing. The project is back in development without the star on the books. That's wild. So El Muerzo could be coming. But that's because the only reason this one really exists is because he looked at all the... And he found that character was on like three pages of one comic book. Yeah, and he's like, this is the one I want to do.

Yeah. And so they're now going, they're going with his choice without him. That's interesting. Isn't it just? Yeah. Did you have some more vague Dakota Johnson news? No, but I remember this from the other week. Oh, I watched that Hot Ones episode and Sidney Sweeney did promote Madam Web.

Yeah, yeah. That's right. Who knew? I don't know, man. Aya Adebri was going to be in Thunderbolts, so she's from The Bear. Oh, yeah, that's right. And they swapped her out for? Geraldine Viswanathan.

Yeah, she's great. Yeah, but apparently this is due to because everything got delayed and then the season three of The Bear is going to be. They swapped out The Century recently as well. Steven Yeun, yeah. It's going to be. They swapped out the Sentry recently as well. Steven Yeun, yeah. It's going to be. And now it's Top Gun guy, Bill Pullman's son or whatever his name is. It's going to be Sentry.

Top Pullman. Top Pullman. I love that. I didn't know Ayo Debra was going to be in a Marvel thing. No, me neither. But she's not. No, she's not. Don't worry about it.

She got too famous. She got too famous. They didn't move it along quick enough. That's right. All right, should we move it along? Yes. Anything can be good. Hold that thought, though.

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First movie of the year for us. Come on, mate. From the twisted mind of Matthew Vorm, I've got Argyle. Before this, I watched The Talent of Mr. Ripley, and I thought that was great. No, no, did you go to cinemas for it? No, I saw it on my TV. Is it a 2024 movie?

Exactly. I watched that last year as well. What a good movie. They're doing a new series with Andrew Scott. Yeah, that's right. That looks good. That is, I believe that is a remake of this. So it's not like Ripley Origins or anything. It's a remake of Talented Mr. Ripley.

I did watch it because. When does he fight the alien? Ah. Never. What? Yeah. He can do it. He fights alienation.

By killing other people and stealing their identities? I think so, yeah, that's what he does. That's great. Because it's the 10-year anniversary of the passing of Philip Seymour Hoffman. And he's great in that. I agree. He's so good at giving a really big performance, but he's also very like a real performance. Like, you know, when he shows up in that movie, and he's just like, he's the big fat party animal guy, but then he's also just a real guy. He's a real guy. Hunger Games too.

Also good. Yeah, also good. Also good. Didn't, just quickly, Malkovich did a Ripley movie as well. Yeah, he did. And he's in a second of the trailer for Ripley, the new one. He's in it for a fraction of a second. Oh, Ripley.

And I looked on IMDB and he's not on there. So I don't know why. And Barry, someone did, he's the sniper in Seven Private Ryan, did one as well, I think. It's called like Ripley's Mate. Ripley Underground or something? I don't know, something like that. Anyway. Did you know there's also like French versions of talented Mr. Ripley?

Le Ripley. Le Ripley, that's right. Le Ripley kills the alien. Royal Ripley. Anyways. Go on. Tristan Martin, Matthew Bowen, Argyle on a budget of $200 million. Incredible.

Aided by Apple Plus. Yep, Apple Original. This is an Apple Original film. Seeing those logos come up before movies and cinemas, I don't like it, Mason. You know what's interesting? I was like, boy, Apple Original film, they've mostly done pretty premium stuff.

And then I looked at the list of stuff and it's mostly garbage. The TV's good, I would say. But, yeah, they've done some bad movies. Ghosted, for example. Ghosted, ferocious. Anyway, box office for this in the US was $16.5 million. Internationally, about $16.9. This is not good in terms of box office.

Okay, but what about how good the movie is? Well, before we get into that, what do you think the story was? All right, okay, so so try not to do the several twists in this by the way i'll try not yeah try to hold back the endless twists okay because they just keep happening i don't know how much of this we can do non-spoilers because there's like there's a twist and then they just twist all the way to the end let me get to the plot james okay so bryce dallas Dallas Howard plays a woman named Ellie and she is a writer and she writes about a

cool spy called Agent Argyle. And he's played by handsome Henry Cavill. He's cool and suave and he gets into all sorts of adventures and everybody loves the books and they're big sellers. But then it turns out that some of the stuff

she's written in her book, it's all very close to the truth. It's real. But then all the secret agencies, they want to get her for reasons. And then Sam Rockwell's there. And he goes, hello, I'm charming and everything. And he continues to be. I'll do a little dance sometimes.

No complaints. Sometimes I feel like I'm only doing a little dance because they've asked me to do a little dance. I think he's just doing dances. You think so? Yeah, man. He's doing dances. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I will say this does start off as kind of like a brisk and fun, like pretty solid action film.

Like when Sam Rockwell, you know, when they pair up initially and there's a fight on a train and it cuts between him and like Henry Cavill because the Henry Cavill stuff isn't real. And she's like imagining. Or is it? Or is it? And so that fight scene is quite good. Yeah. But then it's just nonsense. Yeah.

What a nonsense movie. Here's the thought I had. And not fun nonsense like when Good Kingsman is nonsense. Yeah. Here's the thought I had upon leaving the cinema was I would love to know, I would love to see what this cast would do with a good movie. Oh, my God. Can you imagine?

Because we've got Bryce Dallas Howard, who's great. We've got Sam Rockwell. We've got Henry Cavill. Just a bunch of- John Cena's in it. John Cena is in this. Samuel L. Jackson's in it. Samuel L. Jackson.

Bryan Cranston's in it. What's her name? She's in- Catherine O'Hara. Yeah, Catherine O'Hara's in it. But just a super – Oh, and the opening. Is it the opening this?

Oh, no. I was watching Mr. and Mrs. Smith. I'm thinking of a better thing that I was watching. It is very unfortunate that two espionage properties came out this week and one is very good and one is very bad. Sure. Yeah, just an incredible cast. Sophia Boutella, Ariana DeBose.

Also, I've seen recently on Twitter today, I saw a bunch of like, here's John Cena and Ariana DeBose sitting down and being interviewed about their process and working with Matthew Vaughn and all the incredible stuff. You guys were in this movie for four minutes. Yeah. What is happening? What is happening?

But anyway, just like so many talented, likeable people, and I'm like this is probably fun to make on the day but it's just it has a somewhat strong opening yep and then the plot keeps going but it doesn't there's no reason for anything to keep going and the there is there's twist upon twist but it's it's like look how clever are, but also we're going to explain every twist as it happens because we don't respect you as an audience. How many of the twists did you see coming? Most of the twists.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I think also the main twist, which we'll get to, like the initial one, was also spoiled on social media like a year ago. Or even more, yeah. Yeah, there's a weird marketing campaign for this also where – There's a real book you can buy. There's a real book you can buy because in the movie she's writing the fourth book of this character, Argyle, Henry Cavill.

And the first book came out earlier this year and they were kind of making it so that like this is a real reclusive author. This author's come out of nowhere and watch out. She made this incredible spy thriller. And then she made one book and then they decided to make the movie about the fourth book like it doesn't they really fucked it like i didn't know about any of that until after when i was reading apparently the book's riddled with like errors so apparently it's like yeah churned it out on the cheap or they've written it with ai or whatever yeah it'd be whatever they did with paul rudd's ant-man book or whatever it's probably whatever that is i don't know i i assume also this like borrows from a lot of other stuff.

There's like, and it doesn't do any of, like all the twists you've seen in other things. And I can't name the movie specifically because that will give it away. We'll do it in spoilers definitely. But even things like, there's a lot of like CGI fire and smoke and oil in this. There's an oil ice skating sequence. Yes. And it just looks like shit. It really does.

I read a review afterwards that was like, this is a highlight of the film. No. The transporter did it 20 years ago. The transporter did it. Jason Statham does it where he kicks the bike pedals off a bike. Attach them to his feet. Attach them to his feet and uses them to beat up guys

in like a patch of oil. For real. And it's amazing. I mean, obviously it's probably not real oil and they do it with camera angles or whatever. No, of course not, yeah. But it looks convincing. And I remember in the cinema going, this is incredible. Yeah.

That like Statham is a star and he remains a star. Like what an innovative thing. And he's shirtless. Hey, I watch The Beekeeper. I'll talk about it later. He's shirtless and he's. He's oiled up. He's shirtless and oiled and he's looking cool and he's doing karate on people and he's, you know,

like what an incredible just, you know, this like a fun – like a little guy who's a steamroller kind of thing. Yeah. But this is just so like derivative of that. Yeah. And none of it's real and it doesn't look real. It doesn't feel or look real. What's interesting I think is because so much of the movie –

part of the movie is we see the adventures of Agent Argyle, the book within the movie. So the fictional universe that this woman has been writing about. And in this fictional book, Agent Argyle, he's, you know, he's like effortlessly suave and he's looking cool even when he's, you know, punching a guy or like falling because he's been hit with a grenade. And, you know, he's still like. Giving a wink. Giving a wink to the hair yeah and and it's contrasted with like sam rockwell's character who's also a spy but he's kind of he's meant to be this is the real stuff but there isn't really a contrast no he just kind of he seems a bit more hurt when he gets hit for a second and he's and he's a little kind of little lucy goosey lucy goosey and like grubbier and he's a little kind of grubby. Little loosey-goosey. Loosey-goosey and, like, grubbier, and he's got, at one point he has kind of long hair, and it's just,

it doesn't really feel like, it's not confusing, but it's a little bit disappointing that there's no real difference. Like, there's an imaginary secret organisation, and they have, like, you know, transparent workstations, and everything's very, like, holographic and glamorous and what have you, and then you see the real version, and everything's very like holographic and glamorous and what have you and then you see the real version it's the same oh i didn't even realize i didn't even think of that but yes you're right but it's there's yeah it it would maybe you could do like a 1960s kind of like man from uncle kind of aesthetic yeah and then the modern in the modern version

where it's you know it's still high tech but it's like it looks like regular offices or something like that. And I can understand why when some of this stuff looks like hyper real, you'd be like, well, that's the book universe. But all of it is like weirdly hyper real. There's a bit where he like at the start where he grinds Agent Argyle, Henry Cavill. He straddles a car across two buildings. Yeah, and he's like grinding it like a skateboard down like a ramp

and whatever. And it looks bad, but it's not even bad. That's not even true. It looks how it's supposed to look because it's like a fantastical universe. Yeah. But it all looks like that. Yeah. And, again, like we shouldn't focus on what a movie is

and focus on what the movie is. But I think there's more humour to be mined, I think, from like Ellie thinks that the world of espionage is like this so she writes it like oh it's very it's always sexy and it's always glamorous and then you contrast it with like you know more like the killer where everything's a drainer and everything's boring everyone's broke everyone's broke and dirty and kind of thing there's like there's one there's one funny joke where I remember where there's, she, the, the super, the super spy agency in real life, they want her because she can seemingly

predict events. Like she's, she's, her mind is so attuned to the world of spying. She's done so much research that she, she can so accurately imagine what the spy world is like. They're like, well, she can probably predict the future of spying or what have you. And so they try to get her, Sam Rockwell tries to get her to imagine what might happen next. And she's like, oh, what if the phone you got had a super high-tech tracking device and you could take it out and you could, you know,

it would pair to another satellite over and, you know, all this, you know, super spy stuff. And he's like, no, I threw it away. I threw the phone away. It's a burner phone. And I was like, that's funny. Like, that's a fun contrast between what she imagines and what real spying is like. But I never do any of that.

But the phone did have a thing in it, whatever. Did it? Didn't it end up having something in it? No. Oh, no, they use a cord. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. And there's also, there also too much of it.

There's too much plot. There's too much fetching. Looking at a thing for coordinates to go to a computer to unlock a thing and there's a key in it. And then we have to keep constantly explaining everything because they're like the order. And, again, I feel like we talk about something like another Apple original film like Killers of the Flower Moon where they don't,

they're like, we want to make this because it's a piece of art and the filmmaker shouldn't have to compromise and so not everything is spelled out. There's not a scene where Lily Gladstone's character is like, well, actually, Leo, I'm mad at you for all the betrayal you did to me. You don't have to say that. It's in her eyes. Yeah.

You know what I mean? But this movie is very much, well. this happens and I think this about you. It's very much a well that happened kind of movie. You also touched on something just briefly where you said the one joke that you liked. And I think that's what's missing, one of the things that's missing from this as opposed to like the good Kingsman movies, which I think is the first in the prequel.

And even like first, Matthew Vaughn, by the way, has made Layer Cake. Like he's made. He made Layer Cake. He made X-Men First Class. Which is one of my favorite X-Men movies. Kick-Ass. First Kick-Ass.

And that's got a hyper-reality to it that works. He's about 50-50 for me, I think. I would say a bit more than 50-50. What's going on? Yeah. But then like there's moments, there's action sequences in this that kind of go to be like the frenetic church sequence from the first Kingsman where, what's Colin Firth, kills like a congregation of people, right?

But none of that feels like this at all. No. It's all. It's very sanitized. Yeah. Like all the, you know, all the muzzle flashes are CGI, but we know from something like John Wick 4, if you really work at that, nobody will ever notice.

In this, it's very noticeable. There's no blood. Yeah. I mean, I saw somebody describe this as a red notice. Like, this movie's a red notice. I mean, look, as someone who's currently watching Red Notice, is that true? I think it's a cut above a red notice. I think there are more memorable scenes, but I don't think they're, again,

like you said, they never look like they're really happening. So why am I investing in this? Except for the train one. Except for the train one, which is pretty good. And again, it promises a movie I think that it doesn't deliver, which is like you thought spying was like this, but it's just a dirty job. I didn't expect it to be this bad. All this long? All this long.

I was like going into this, I remember the morning of, I think I saw a YouTube video which was like. It's like you're describing like the day you got fired or something like that. I didn't know. I didn't know I went in the morning of and, you know, I had my breakfast. It's just really, because I saw, I think it was a YouTube video and I was like, our goal reviews are in and they're bad. I'm like, oh, is it?

Okay, I didn't. All right, well, I hope that's not true. Yeah. And yeah, it is. It is bad. I mean, some people have seen In the Great Mates, some people have mentioned it. Maybe you could read some out, but there are some people that did enjoy it because I think there are some fun moments in it and I think that's like Sam Rockwell and Bryce Dallas

Howard, a good pairing in a better movie. I mean, we talked about this recently, but Anna Kendrick did a movie with Sam Rockwell where he's a hit man. Mr. Ryan. Yeah. And they are wearing different shirts. Last week I mentioned him and John Cena were wearing the same shirt, but they're not.

I didn't know. I apologize to everyone. But look, I don't really remember much about that movie, but I remember that being like there. It's a good pairing. It's a fun pairing. And I think it's a fun pairing here, but it's just in a bad movie. Yeah, that's a shame.

Spoilers? Spoilers. Are we evaluating this movie on oh yeah uh worst movie ever it's not that bad it's not that bad but i didn't enjoy it and it got worse for me and also i didn't like the post credits and the endings okay right it really gained dishonest yeah yeah they really did uh i'm going to say. It's pretty in the middle if I'm being honest. It really is. I mean, I think it inches towards best movie ever for me. Again, I think these days I really just enjoy the cast of something

more than I enjoy. Totally. I can see, yeah. If you said, do you want to change your mind, I would say yes, like whatever. I'm not fussed. Yeah, it is the worst movie ever, though. Oh, wow. Yeah, it is the worst movie ever. said do you want to change your mind i would say yes like whatever i don't i'm not fussed yeah it is the worst movie ever though oh wow yeah it's the worst movie ever i'm sorry everyone but but

you know what this isn't going to kill anyone's career i think it's probably fine that i say this specifically isn't going to kill anyone's career so sorry everybody anyways ali is the real argyle or is she oh wow we'll talk about it but yeah if you've seen like long kiss good night or born identity or whatever it's spy forgets they're a spy and yeah etc but it's in addition Or is she? Oh, wow. We'll talk about it. But, yeah, if you've seen, like, Long Kiss Goodnight or Born Identity or whatever, it's Spy Forgets They're a Spy and et cetera. But in addition to that, there's her parents are fake because they created a fake personality for her. The head of the agency in Catherine O'Hara is Bryan Cranston.

Her pretend to be her parents because she was in an accident and so she thinks she's a writer and she's not predicting things. She's actually remembering things and typing them out out so when she's remembering john cena she's actually remembering sam rockwell and they're together they were together in real life and whatever and when she's on real life in the movie and when she's remembering henry cavill she's actually remembering herself which is why she keeps seeing him including sometimes she'll see him in the mirror and she thinks initially that it's uh you know post-traumatic stress or something like that.

Until he actually turns up at the end. Yeah, that's right. Oh, yeah. So she, God, it's a lot to unpack, isn't it? Also, this might be a Kingsman movie or something. Yeah. Or this is a teaser for a Kingsman prequel. Or a book. Or a book or another movie.

Look, I was going to save this for our subsequent podcast. Sure. Sorry, one of our additional podcasts. We've got this covered. Let's go. This is a podcast where we talk about clickbaits. But this one's from Screen Rant. Came out seven hours ago.

Eight Argyle sequels, prequels, and crossovers the movie sets up. Yep. And I just want to be like, I guess, bold, isn't it? Because according to Deadline, various Argyle and Kingsman prequels and sequels are in development. Matthew Vaughn apparently wants to make a prequel series to this, which I guess would be the Ongoing Adventures of Ali. Various books.

Right. Okay, so if you're here and you want to hear the spoilery details without watching this movie, so Bryce Dallas Howard's character, her name is R. Kyle in real life. Very good. And she was one of the best super spies, but she was sort of evil Total Recall style, I guess.

Oh, yeah, it's also Total Recall. She's a little bit Total Recall. But then she's in and she wanted to – she had to get a – she found a master list of something or other. It doesn't matter. I've forgotten what it is. But it's one of these movies where you just – they've got a list. They've got a chip with a USB drive and it's got't matter. I've forgotten what it is. But it's one of these movies where they've got a list. They've got a chip with a USB drive and it's got a list.

It's got an agency something. We've got to get the list of the agents or whatever. And so she gets the list but then she is in an accident. She loses her memory. This is five years ago. Yep. And she gets recovered by Bryan Cranston's head of the agency. This is in 2019, just to clarify.

That's right. And Catherine O'Hara's character, who is a psychologist, and they – in order to figure out – and she's lost her memory, but in order to figure out where to get the master list of the data or the chip or the USB or whatever, they pretend to be her parents and they hypnotize her and they give her this fake identity. Like Zoolander. Exactly.

And then they give her a journal and they're like, you should write some fun adventures in your journal. And then she writes some books and then somehow they get published. Yep. And then she becomes a world famous author and they're like, okay, well now. How do you write so well? You're super spying. She's like, I could never. Yeah. Somebody writes. Also, there's two sequences

in this movie where she she's at some sort of book reading event and she just reads the last page of her book. Yeah. Like her new book. And then Agent Argyle, he escaped on a jet ski or whatever. What is she doing there?

Has she sat a bunch of unsuspecting fans down and she's read them the entire book? Or has she set a bunch of unsuspecting fans down and she's just read the last page? She's like, spoilers, idiots. It's also Wilder the Eighth. Also Sam Rockwell, he's her boyfriend. Yeah, did I mention that?

But he can't tell her that she used to be. Because she's got a different personality. And there's a moment where he's like, I want to shoot this woman in the head, but he really means this version of her, not the other version that he loves. And she's got a cat. And you're like, what's the deal with a cat?

Oh, yeah, the cat. It's just a cat. It's just a cat. Oh, yeah, you said you had a prediction that James Bond was going to be the real I.O.L. No, I said Daniel Craig might be there. He's James Bond, basically. I guess he is, yeah, you said you had a prediction that James Bond was going to be the real I.R. No, I said Daniel Craig might be there. He's James Bond, Mason. I guess he is, yeah.

Yeah, but anyway, this is worse. What else? Also, it's just a cat. Oh, also, why is it that- It's a CGI cat. It is, but sometimes it's a real cat. It's mostly CGI. It's mostly, but it's Claudia Schiffer's cat.

What? It's Claudia Schiffer's because she's married to Matthew Vaughn and it's her cat. Oh, shit, I forgot about Claudia Schiffer's because she's married to Matthew Vaughan and that's her cat. Oh, shit, I forgot about that. That's an unlikely duo. Isn't it though? Bryan Cranston's character is like filled with rage constantly and he's like on the verge of bubbling over into murder

at every second when he's in the facility of the division or the company or whatever it's called. He shoots bloody Rob. Rob Delaney. He was in this for five seconds. Yep. Like a lot of actors. I hope they got big checks and they just walked away.

From Apple, yeah. Yeah. I hope they got a free Apple Plus subscription. But then when he's pretending to be Ellie's father, he's like super nice and whatever. Like it doesn't square that this character who is like about to snap at every moment is like, oh, I'll just deal with this person I hate. Yeah.

Yep. I agree. It's weird. There's a moment in this where they have to, Ellie and Sam Rockwell have to go to a place in the Middle East, I think, and they have to get a chip from the secret keeper. It's very John Wick 4. Yeah, it is.

And so they dress up. Yep. And so Sam Rockwell decides to dress up as Argyle. Argyle. So he does the weird flat top hair and he gets it a little bit peroxided. He gets the tooth hair tinted. And then he puts on the weird Nehru jacket. Yep.

Why? I don't know. I don't know. He's not even Argyle. He's not Argyle. He's the other guy. Nobody dresses like this. No.

No sorts of villain look. Yeah, it is. That's why I have Dr. No dresses. Yep, absolutely. God damn. Also, Ellie goes blonde. She goes blonde, yeah. I don't like it.

I don't like it. I mean, with the dresser clashes, let's be real as well. She looks very washed out. And the blonde hair, yeah. And if she's supposed to be Argyle, she should wear like a green velvet dress. I think that would look great on her. And have the hair. And have the hair.

Do the flat top. Absolutely. Yeah. I'm glad I said worst movie ever. The more that I said it. Yeah, I know, right? So at the end she's doing another reading and Henry Cavill's there for real. Except he's got a southern accent.

And he's got a mullet. And he looks mullet for Superman. He did it. He looks ridiculous. So presumably the reason that she's imagining Henry Cavill is because this is a spy that she's liaised with in the past or a villain that she's come up against. Oh, like he. okay, right, maybe. I don't know specifically.

So do you think she's the real Agent Argyle but there's also another Agent Argyle? Potentially. Also, I don't care. I also don't care. I'll be amazed if any of these sequels – I think maybe we'll get another Kingsman. Well, here's the thing because in the post-credits –

Well, the mid-credits. There was no post-credits because I knew nobody would stick around for the post-credits. They drop the mid-cred credits on you before you can leave. Absolutely they do. So it cuts to the King's Man pub in the early 2000s. And there's a young boy, a mulleted boy, and he goes up and he's like, hello, I need a Kingsman gun.

And he gives him one and they go, this is Kingsman. And then it says Argyle, the first book or something. No, Kingsman. It says Argyle, book book or something It says Argyle book one the movie coming soon and everybody in my cinema was like nah Now look, there's an answer to this and there's probably even an interview

because that book exists it's like a book you can buy, it's the one we were talking about or is this a series of prequel movies that are set within the universe so that the books that Ali wrote within the universe and that's also the Kingsman universe? Or is this the actual thing that happened in Ali's past but it was Henry Cavill and it's his story as a Kingsman?

Because it can't be fictional because then it wouldn't say 20 years ago. That's what I'm saying, yeah. Because it isn't actually 20 years ago. But the other thing is like Sofia Patel is in this and so is Sam Jackson and they were in the first Kingsman. They were. So I don't know what this is supposed to be. Oh, Sofia Patel was the Knives Legs woman.

She was the Knives Legs woman. Yeah, right. Knives out on my legs. On my legs, yeah, that's right. What a mess. I mean, also, you know, there's nothing wrong with a filmmaker going, I love working with these people. They're my friends.

Totally. That's not what I have a problem with. No, I know. It seems like you do. Remember I said there was a savage IGN thing upcoming? Here it is. It's an IGN article by Amelia Emberwing, which I read. So this is how it goes.

So this is an ending explained for the movie Argyle. You know, I've done a few videos like that. They're all bangers, mate. And you see them on YouTube, they're everywhere. She wrote, the ending explained article format comes in a lot of different forms, not to pull the curtain back too far in anything, but they've become a product of our digital landscape because no matter the medium or genre, folks are Googling to find that ending. Nobody's ever really happy about it, honestly. Commenters inevitably call the writer a shill and accuse them of being creatively bereft. Meanwhile, the writer stares dead-eyed at the cursor

while they try to regurgitate what they just witnessed in a way that doesn't make us feel like soulless drones. But people keep Googling it, so we have to keep writing about it. Because of that, our goal at IGN is to find a fun angle or at least make it informative in a way that extends beyond the boilerplate synopsis that makes us want to slam our laptop shut and go find a whiskey. This ending explained, it's trying to protect you.

Damn. I care about you and I want to keep you safe and happy. So I'm telling you that I sat through over two hours of Argyle so you don't have to. And then it goes on to explain the ending. But I just love how it's just like I hate doing this. This is bullshit. Incredible.

That's good stuff. So, yeah, I know there is a definitive answer to this, like about what's going on in the Kingsman universe, but honestly I don't give a shit. Like I really don't. Unless you have any thoughts, Mason? No, I mean. I like two of those three Kingsman movies.

Yeah, and I think the. Even the one where Hitler's in the post credits. Some would say you like that thoughts, Mason. No, I mean. I like two of those three Kingsman. Yeah, and I think. Even the one where Hitler's in the post credits. Some would say you like that one the most. No, no. Because the Kingsman universe has that kind of heightened, you know, action. Yeah. You know, if you recall the start of the first one, is it Matthew McFadden?

No, it's. No, it's someone else. It's that other guy. But he plays, remember, he plays the kind of the James Bond you think is going to be the main character who is super suave. It's Eggsy's fucking dad or whatever. Yeah, it's the previous Galahad or, you know, whatever it is. And he's, you know, he's super smooth and, you know,

he can shoot a guy and take the martini off his serving tray. Yeah, and a similar thing happens in the Kingsman prequel. Like you think the main character is one person and it ends up being Ralph Fiennes or whatever, yeah, and Kingsman 2 is atrocious. But it works in that universe but it doesn't and it's clearly the idea of being, well, we'll transfer it to this. And I guess if you wanted to, if the plan was always to tie them together, I guess you have to have super heightened adventure and action

in the real world of Argyle. Yes. Because otherwise, because I guess if we're kind of mundane and most of the espionage in this was just sitting at a radio listening for tones or whatever like they actually do in espionage that could be funny though but it wouldn't work when i guess then they meet the kingsman guys who are all spinning through the air and shooting two guns at once and firing bullets out of the umbrellas or whatever it would seem a little ridiculous.

But also, like, this is just that, though, really, isn't it? Yeah, it is, but not as interesting. It's just like a tamer version of it. Yeah. God damn. Why make it tamer if it's Apple? If they're just going to give you $200 million? It's a great question. So I'm trying to find the reviews on the Great Mates group,

but they've been buried. Perhaps by the twisted mind of Matthew Vaughn? Perhaps intentionally. The twisted lawyers of matthew vaughn's intentional twisted lawyers of matthew vaughn yeah i just i don't know man i also i think if it just looks better i would have been more forgiving yeah like the action sequences didn't feel like face replacement or cgi doubles yeah i'm wondering if which i'm okay with if it looks you feel this would have worked if we see the we see the adventures of fictional agent argyle and it's all crazy and over the top it's great and then ellie falls into the

world of real espionage and it's kind of boring and mundane yeah then we sort of build up to a like a crazy action sequence that's kind of what the what kick-ass is the first kick-ass yeah like it like initially it's a dirty fight on a train and it's kind of, you know, with a spectacular ending and they escape on the parachute. But then as the characters sort of develop, they sort of, I don't know, they, you know, there'd be a- This doesn't normally happen. Well, exactly. There'd be a contrast between her going,

why can't you just use the oil slick or the smoke screen in your car? And he's like, well, we don't have the oil slick and the smoke screen because it's not a real thing kind of thing. And then you sort of, you build, and at the end, maybe there's some crazy gadgets and she's like, I knew it. I knew it. And then they do an, you know. He's like, yeah, it's expensive, so we don't use them.

Yeah, I don't know. Maybe that would work. Yeah, well, you know, maybe you should make this movie again. Remake Argyle. Why doesn't Henry Cavill just look like James Bond? Why doesn't he just have his regular hair? I'm mystified why they gave him this stupid haircut. Also, is Ellie a good writer?

No, she's bad. I think, yeah. They seem bad, these books. They do seem bad. I mean, there's no real correlation between a successful book and a good book in a lot of instances. No, certainly. Especially when it comes to this sort of stuff.

Yeah. But it's, I don't know. Yeah. Seems bad. Anyway, I couldn't find the post in Grey Maze, but some people liked it. That's great. And that's good.

I want everybody to have a good experience all the time. Well, if you think that, then we should recommend people don't see the movie Archive. Because I thought it was bad. I am more than happy to do that. Should we move it along? Let's move it along. To what? What we're reading. What we're going to read. Just quickly, what do you think is the next thing from this universe, if anything?

Kingsman. They are doing Kingsman 3. It's going to be Kingsman 3, I think. And they're also going to do... Oh, here's something I wanted to say. They're also going to do doing Kingsman 3 It's going to be Kingsman 3 Yeah And they're also Are they also going to do They're also going to do Oh he's something I wanted to say They're also going to do

A Kingsman sequel So set during World War 2 Great cool That's great But how's he still getting money for this It's great I love it They probably made money I guess Yeah

Matthew Vaughn Has done this thing And he did it in Kingsman 2 Where if you're shot In a very specific And vital part of your body You can survive it On a technicality Yeah In Kingsman 2 He gets shot're shot in a very specific and vital part of your body, you can survive it on a technicality.

Yeah. Like the head. In Kingsman 2, he gets shot through the head and they have a brain-saving balloon. The thing that sucks the bullet out of your brain. And in this, you can shoot someone in the heart at a very specific point and it will go through a part of your heart which is fine and out the back. And if you plug the hole, you're fine. And it happens to two different people in this movie once by accident.

That is true. Oh, that's what I was going to say. You know what? I think – We're back on it. That's the other thing that I thought was kind of funny because you see – like I did see that coming because you see the email and it was like, if you shoot in the heart,

and I'm like, oh, that's going to happen later. That's absolutely going to happen. The other bit where she shoots him and I'm like, well, she's done the trick obviously. And then Sam Rockwell says, okay, you haven't handled a gun in five years and you thought that would work. And she's like, yes. You know what might work as well?

What if she has crazy super spy powers and he doesn't? Yeah. That would work because she'd be basing it off her memories of being a super spy and if he was just some schlub. Yeah. I think that would be a better team up. And initially he's like, well, I guess that's kind of how it worked. I'm MI5 and you're MI6 or whatever.

Not that because they're not British. And it's not rankings. It's not like black belts. It's not black belts, Mason. It's not black belts. Did you think it was black belts? Yes. It's not, though, is it?

No, it's not. All right, we should talk about what are we doing? What are we reading? What are we going to read? Good movie. Disagree. I'm doing a thing. What are we reading

today? What are you reading? Well, James, I think we've both been reading the same thing, and that is the TV series Mr. and Mrs. Smith. I'm only about halfway through the first episode. Okay. Well, I'm only a couple of episodes in. Well, there's only two. No, there's not as much. I think they've only released the first two. I think they've released a bunch. Have they released more than two? Maybe. I'll have a look. Anyway, I like it. couple of episodes in. Well, there's only two. No, there's a bunch. I think they've only released the first two. I think they've released a bunch.

Have they released more than two? Maybe. Have a look. Anyway, I like it. I have a quick look. It's way better than the movie. It's so good. It's way better.

I'm going to – we got sent an email. Did we? Yeah, we got sent an email. To wigglethenapod.gmail.com. That's correct. I can look it up on Prime while you do the email if you want. No, no. I've got it right here.

This is from Michael. Yeah. Mr. and Mrs. you do the email if you want. No, no, I've got it right here. This is from Michael. Yeah. Mr. and Mrs. Smith, the TV show from 1996. So in previous weeks we talked about how in the movie Mr. and Mrs. Smith it's about a married couple. Neither of them knows that the other one is a secret agent. I don't know. But in the new TV series, the 2024 series,

it's about two characters played by Donald Glover and Maya Erskine who are sort of – like they're two people with kind of mysterious checkered pasts who've agreed to work for a company that require them to do high-risk kind of espionage things. And so they both know that they're spies. Yes. And I'm like, that's a fun twist. But Michael sent an email and he said, all right, boys,

on the upcoming shows for 2024, you mentioned the upcoming Mr and Mrs Smith show that was different to the movie because they know that they're both spies and are working together. You won't know this. No one will, but that's the same plot as the Mr and Mrs Smith TV show that came out in 1996 starring Star Trek Enterprises' Scott Bakula. Oh, you're right.

All the episodes came out. All eight of them. Oh, wow, okay. And Maria Bello. Now, initially, I thought, Michael, you're right. All the episodes came out. All eight of them. Oh, wow. Okay. And Maria Bello. Now, initially, I thought, Michael, you're funning us here. You're doing a bit of fun. Michael, why are you joking to us? Why are you joking around on us?

We're busy. We're too busy for your jokes. We're doing a podcast. This is a classic prank, obviously. Because I went to the Mr. and Mrs. Smith Wikipedia page, the 2024 TV series. The Smithipedia. Mr. and Mrs. Smithipedia. And it said, based 2024 TV series. The Smithopedia. And it said based on the movie.

And so I clicked through the movie and it said a script written by Simon Kinberg. There's no reference on either page to this TV series even though. That's so weird. And so I went to IMDB and I looked it up and it does exist. But they've like scrubbed every mention of it from both versions. Is the movie based on the Why? I don't know. Is the movie based on the whatever? I don't know.

But the TV series, this TV series is based, seems to be based more on the original TV series. Because in the old version they work for the factory and in this they work for the company. For the company. But anyway. Oh, my God. Timothy Olsen's in that series.

Yes, it's like his first role or something. Fucking hell. No, he was in Scream 2, Mason, after this. Oh, was he? All right. Anyway, Mr. and Mrs. Smith is really good. I think it's super fun. I think the two leads are very good.

I think they've got a good chemistry. It's not like, again, it's not Brad Pitt, Angelina Jolie, ooh, a big sexy energy. They're so sexy at each other. You know, it's got a good rom-com energy, I think, like a low-key rom-com energy to it. Their dance is good. They've got good dance.

They've got good dance. The action is solid and fun, and it's like it's got good – it does feel like a good episodic adventure because they have to go on a mission each week kind of thing. It's a bit surrealist. It is a bit. I mean, yeah, also produced by and created by Donald Glover. So in the style of Atlanta, it's a little bit odd.

It's got an odd energy to it, which I think is very good. Weird vibes. Weird vibes. And it's, yeah, good. It's just good. A lot of good guest stars. Okay. It's like it kind of does feel like a show from a previous era

where you go, oh, like the love boat where every week there's a different, I don't want to do too many spoils. Please don't. Well, even the opening sequence is like, oh. Yeah. Oh. That's what I said.

Ooh. I watched The Beekeeper. I watched that last week. I know. I know we talked about it, but I saw it. What did you think of it? It's pretty good. It's pretty good, isn't it?

It's way better than fucking the other one i watched the movie that cannot be named yeah yeah that's better than that one um yeah it's you know it's it's ridiculous because the scenario ends up in the end to like you haven't seen it it escalates wildly what he has to do yeah and it's got good action sequences statham like barely talks in it, which is probably good because I think he's supposed to be American. So, yeah, I mean, I liked it. I just thought it was just a good watch. It's a good breezy action-filled watch. It's got some good kills in it as well.

So if you have a choice at your local Cinerama Dome about which action movie you'll see, see the movie. Madam Web. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. On February 14th, Valentine's Day. Take a date. Take someone special. That's right, yeah.

And don't let them know which it is until the end of the movie. And be like, surprise. You can be like, surprise, I hate you. That's why I took you to this movie. Or you could be like, oh, sorry, I really liked you, but this was a mistake that we did this. And I understand why you're breaking up with me. Yeah.

Yeah. All right. You are my wife and you're breaking up with me. Should we move it along? Yes, let's do some letters. Let's do it. The classic one was letters, oh letters, we love you. Some letters, they're only a day away.

You know they're here right now. We're going to do letters. Mark Kermode reviews Argyle. I wonder what he thinks about it. I cannot wait to listen, but he doesn't like it. No, I can't wait to get home and watch the rest of Mr. and Mrs. Smith. No, not Argyle. I recorded it on my phone.

And then read book one. Yeah, that's right. I nearly bought that like months ago. That's crazy. I'm like, I should give it a whirl. Never trust anything. No. Now you know. Anything can be good. But not Argy should give it a whirl. Never trust anything. No. Now you know.

Anything can be good. I'm going to get some emails. Yep. Okay. While you're doing that, you can actually send an email while Mason's getting them to weeklyplanetpot.gmail.com. And you can also hashtag weeklyplanetpot on Twitter. And those numbers have dropped off dramatically.

Maybe we're slipping. I mean, all the other numbers indicate that we're not slipping and it's just Twitter as a platform is unusable. Yeah, I think that could be it. But it's probably us. We're probably not seeing a lot of notifications, if I'm honest. Here's an email from Seth. Seth!

Hey, James and May. So first of all, thank you both so much for the great content. Wow. We love delivering content. We're happy to do it. We love delivering hot, fresh content. Every week. Dripping with extra cheese.

Yep. I've been listening to you for about three years. I'm going through all your old videos. I was watching one from years ago. You mentioned The Raid 1 and 2. I absolutely love those movies. Would you ever consider doing a Caravan of Garbage on them or a Weekly Planner on your favourite martial arts movies?

Yes. Yes, and we should watch them all as well. I need more martial arts movie watching though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But absolutely. We should watch some more like Michelle Yeoh. Totally. Like that kind of era of hong kong yeah action movies

hard-boiled etc those are hard to get now complicated legal reasons oh my god because the what about can you do them in simple illegal ways you can do it in very simple illegal ways i think but like if you go to like anywhere that sells dvds or blu-rays you can't get like hard boiled or the killer like the original yeah hong kong one it's something to do i i read it recently but it's something to do with when there was the big hong kong action boom in like the 80s and 90s uh a company like a real estate company started they they built a movie production studio to to do that and then they like they leased it out and and and and now they're just and then the rights came back to them but now they're just – and then the rights came back to them

but now they're just like we just do real estate now. So anybody who emails or contacts them and is like, can we license this for like American distribution? They're like, nah. They're like, we don't know what you're talking about. That's insane. We just do real estate now. Can we get some real estate while we're here?

No. So what do you do? Just deny things. Tax evasion is what we do. This is from Becky Foreman who says, hashtag with your planet pod, some Australian questions as an American. Here we go. You ready?

True or false? Half flush toilet levers on all toilets. Yep. True. That's true. What are you using? I'm half flushing it. Mostly half flushing it.

Yeah, mostly. Sometimes when you go to a public toilet, they've disabled the full flush. They have. That's true. So in a way, you could say that mostly in Australia we're a half-flush nation. I would agree with that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just a bunch of turds floating about. Exactly. That won't go away. Stop talking about the government, James. The government. Second question, flags only flown on Australia Day. I don't know about that. I mean,

certain establishments, if you go to like an RSL or certain government buildings, but a lot of people don't have just flags flying or even on Australia Day. The thing about that flag is as well, it fucking sucks. It's a bad flag. It's got the union fucking jack on it. It sucks. I don't want to fly that flag. I don't like it. And also it basically means if you see someone flying it now, the implication is that they're a big racist. Not always. But that is what it's come to represent to a lot of people. And as we always say, the flag should be changed to what we've always wanted.

Everybody in Australia has always wanted it to be, which is a bum with a fist coming out of it. I completely agree. Yeah. Just do the Southern Cross. There's so many things that you could just. Yeah, because there's no negative connotation. Oh, fuck, I forgot.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. It should just be that blue and white Eureka one because there's no negative connotations attached to that. Sure. This is all good stuff. We should do a new one. Yeah, do a new one.

The bum of the fist. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Next one. The bum of the fist. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Next one. No squirrels or squirrels in Australia? No. We've got possums. We have possums, but they're different to the possums in America.

Our possums are cute. Yours are monstrous. Yeah. More questions. Drive-thrus of many kinds aren't abundant. I mean, I thought about it. And really, like your chain restaurants, like like your McDonald's your Hungry Jack's which is Burger King

your Red Roosters and whatever like your fast fast food like the cheap stuff but no fast and there's coffee drive-thrus I think that would be the extent of it

but is that that different than other places in the world? I don't know man yeah I don't know either and last question drive-thru bottle shops yeah exactly

oh yeah we got bottle eyes we got drive-thru bottle eyes and We've got to drive through bottle eyes. And last one. Lemonade isn't lemon plus sugar plus water, but it's more like soda. Correct. Yes. In Australia, Sprite is considered lemonade. That's right.

I don't think I've ever had lemon plus sugar plus water lemonade. I make it every once in a while. You make it once in a while, do you? No, it's good. You make it with your dumb dad? No, I don't. He's got nothing to do with it. You can stay away from my lemonade.

You could ask him. Sometimes I make an Arnold't. He's got nothing to do with it. You can stay away from my lemonade. Sometimes I make an Arnold Palmer. What's an Arnold Palmer? It's a traditional lemonade plus iced tea. Oh. It's very nice. And what does he think of it? I don't know. I don't know, mate. It's none of his business. I don't even

know if he's still alive, Arnold Palmer. I meant iced tea. Oh. None of his business? I don't think it's any of his alive, Arnold Palmer. I meant iced tea. Oh. None of his business? I don't think it's any of his business, quite frankly. You got another. Anyway, thank you. Hope we answered some but not all of your questions.

Yeah, let's have a look. I think we answered all of them. Yeah. I can do another one while you're waiting. Please do. It's from William Cote Esquire. It says, how do we get Mr. Sunday Movies and Wikipedia Brown to travel to Orlando to experience the Dark Universe IRL in 2025,

especially since they revived the universe name specifically for theme parks and everything? Hashtag Weeby Planet Pod. You probably saw this. I did. Big theme park announcement. It was like Mario World and fucking Harry Potter or whatever, and then they just casually snuck in the Dark Universe.

The Dark Universe, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Because they're probably like this trademark is going to expire unless we use it. That's right. Let's make a park that no one wants. Then anybody could have a Dark Universe. Maybe some science nerds could have it.

Oh, my God. You know? Absolutely. A museum or something. Yuck. Yeah, maybe one day. I'd love to visit the Dark Universe. Yeah, absolutely.

Perilous. Yeah. And dark also. Spooky, et cetera. Oh, no, there's a Dracula. What's he about? How's he out here? He's friends with the Russell Crowe.

How did that happen? Yeah. They never cast Dracula, did they? Or did they? Who was Dracula? Were they getting to it? Because there's that cast photo where it's like Tom Cruise, fucking Russell Crowe, whatever.

Yeah. Bring it up real quick. All right. Bring up dark universe cast photo. In the meantime tom cruise fucking russell crowe whatever yeah bring it up real quick all right bring up dark universe cast photo in the meantime here's an email from douglas a cursed birthday gift hello from scotland been listening to the podcast for the past couple of years and it's kept me going through long commutes and not knowing what i'm doing with my life and although my commute is much shorter i still don't know what i'm doing my lovely partner abby has heard me yammer on about the two australian voices so long now that for my birthday this year decided to create in her own words a cursed poster for my work desk oh my see picture Oh, my gosh. Oh, congratulations. Spoilers. Oh, no. The birthdays are only a week apart. I'm currently sneakily prepping for Abby's surprise trip away this weekend.

Oh, congratulations. Spoilers. Oh, no. Looking forward to more episodes of dogs bursting in, fizzy drinks being too loud, and James' rants about the rich and powerful. And I suppose comic book movie stuff too. And here it is.

Picture of the Dark Universe. It's a little montage, a little collage rather. It's all us many times. It's all us. It's James and Mace in a sort of gothic font of the weekly planet. We're looking our best. We certainly are. Just a lot of us, and I think that's beautiful.

Yeah. I think that's wonderful. Thank you so much. Will we have that? Yeah, if you could send it to us. Yeah, we'd love that. Send it to Australia. We'll get it.

Yeah, we'll get it. So Russell Crowe. Send it to a Dan Murphy's bottle shop, and we'll just drive through and we'll pick it up. So Russell Crowe was Send it to a Dan Murphy's bottle shop and we'll just drive through and we'll pick it up. So Russell Crowe was Jekyll. Tom Cruise was the mummy. Sophia Batola was also the mummy.

We just mentioned her. I know. She's the knife legs lady. Johnny Depp was Invisible Man, I want to say, and Happy Abba Dibs was a Frankenstein. Oh, thank God. I'm bloody glad about that. You can only see his bloody scarves and his rings.

Happy Abba Dib ever seen Frankenstein? Okay, so no Dracula. I don't know. It could be. It really could be. I don't know a lot. It's not about what you know, it's who you know. I mean, it'd be Luke Evans, right?

They'd say he's still alive. He's Dracula. Unless that was – because it's also very difficult to sort of pass which ones were part of the dark universe and which ones were just, well, you can't stop us making a Dracula movie. That's right. So we're just going to do it. And it's not, we're going to ride off the high of the dark universe. We're going to get on on that, you know.

Oh, here we go. So Johnny Depp was Invisible Man and Javier Bardem, you made this mistake, but he's actually Frankenstein's monster, not Frankenstein. Oh, man. You know, the real monster is you, a pedant. That's the real monster. Is that it?

I'm going to find one more email and you're going to love it. Okay. Oh, speaking of Melbourne, it's from Jade. Hello, tram driver and the other guy. That's us. Hello. Emailing from Manchester, brackets England. We know.

We know. We know. My housemate is moving to Melbourne very soon, leaving me heartbroken and homeless. I want to get her some kind of gift card or experience to enjoy when she gets there. Do you have any recommendations for places I can try to get a gift card for wine, booze and food on top of Dan Murphy's?

Not sponsored. Not sponsored. But they have probably some good. She's going to need that Dan Murphy's gift card. Absolutely. Yeah, if she's going to survive the outback of Melbourne. That's exactly right. Yeah.

She's going to survive that flag, the fist with a bum coming out of it or whatever. Yeah. I wonder if you can get a gift card that's just for the Bell Street McDonald's.

Oh, my God. Yeah, that'd be pretty good. Yeah. You want to go there at night? You want to get punched? Yeah. It's the perfect place. Just jeans voucher.

Just jeans. Just jeans. What about a jeans west? You get a jeans west voucher. What about tarot cash? You get a tarot cash voucher. You get a sanity voucher. Oh, my God.

You want to buy a CD? You get a sanity voucher. You want to buy a CD? Yeah. You want to buy a CD? You could get a voucher for one of those places where they throw axes. Oh, yeah. Pretty good.

Axe throwers are us. Yeah. You get a voucher for some studio time at Stupid Old Studios. That's a really bad idea. Yeah. Get us. You get a voucher for some studio time at Stupid Old Studios? That's a bad idea. Get Evan Munro-Smith to build you a set. He'll do it. On his voucher. He'll do it.

Yeah, nice. Yeah. That's a great question. Is that everything? I don't know. What's a place you can eat that's good in Melbourne? Oh, like what's a nice restaurante? Oh, somewhere in Crown?

Yeah, no. They've got nice restaurants in Crown. Fucking Crown sucks. I know. They have good restaurants. What's a good Japanese got nice restaurants in Crown. Fucking Crown sucks. I know. They have good restaurants. What's that good Japanese place I went to recently, Mason? I don't know. Super Normal?

Did you go to Super Normal? I've been to Super Normal. That's a nice restaurant. I went there with Hollywood Pete recently as well. Oh. Yeah. It was my invite. I told you.

You didn't want to come. Oh, yeah, that's a good point. You said, I do not want to see that man. That's right. I believe you said. I did say that. It's called Yakimono. It's a great Japanese restaurant.

All right. Bit of fusion going on there. And if you like, why Japanese? If you like. Dragon Ball Z. Exactly. If you like, why a Japanese restaurant? Can't you maybe give us some ideas for an Australian restaurant?

We don't have any. No. We don't do that. No, that doesn't. Australian food is just called all the other food from other parts of the world. It's just here. It's just here. It's just here? Yeah, yeah.

Mason, before you wrap up the show, I just want to give a shout out to Gabriel Tice Bruton, who you might know. I know him. I know you know him as the person who wrote the original theme song for the show based on the flippant thing that you said. That's right. He was, I don't know if he was the first. That flippant thing that I said.

But he sent, it was, I even found the email. I went and looked through it from 2013. Wow. We needed a theme song and he sent it and he, I even found the email. I went and looked through it from 2013. We needed a theme song and he sent it and he's hung around inexplicably. I really appreciate it. Still listens. So I reached out the other day. I'm like, listen, I'm going to change the theme song. Can you help us out?

And he wrote a new version of the theme song. But I just, I'm not sure whether I want to go away from the original one as of yet. I understand. But that's why it was shortened up top. I don't know what we're going to do. It'll play, the new one will play at the end of the show. The other reason is because it's up top. I don't know what we're going to do. The new one will play at the end of the show. The other reason is because it's slightly different. I don't want people to get mad at him for making something

that's slightly different. Yeah, that's true. So we might change it at some point. We might not. I might just go back to the original. I don't know. I feel like, James, that this is the biggest point of contention in your entire life.

I think you're right. It's been in the back of your head for years. It's been a couple of years of this, hasn't it? Years of this, yeah. I also wanted to shout out his band, The Velocores. His music is available on all the platforms, YouTube, Spotify. I think it's on Apple Music as well. So just bloody, yeah, YouTube music, Apple Music, yeah, absolutely.

So I just wanted to say a huge shout out for the new song, but also the song that everybody's been hearing every week.'s right if you've been listening for the near 11 years not you because you don't listen to this show but uh but you're in it and that's cool so yeah check him out uh the v-e-l-l-i-c-h-o-r-s and just what a great contribution to the show because i could never make a song and i don't plan on should i make a song i'll make a song you could do it in you with your meeps and moops. I could meep and moop my way into it, couldn't I? You've done video editing.

It's not that dissimilar. They're pretty different. You could record like a bunch of mouth noises and then you could move them around. Like that? You've got a song going. All right. What are we doing? Folks, thank you so much for listening to the podcast.

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Can you imagine? Crunchy. Every day. Can you imagine Orm, the king of the seas, eating a Perlberger? Yes. Yeah. Every day I fear the day the podcast ends. Could.

No plans, but it could. That's right. One of us could die. A what? And then this one's from Dude Er. He said, five stars. I listened to this podcast while doing a league of street racing from Dude. He said, five stars. I listened to this podcast while doing illegal street racing. Ten out of ten, five stars.

That's sick. Nice. That's cool. That's sick, actually. That's really sick. I hope it's illegal street racing on bicycles, though. Oh. Or big penny farthings or such.

Oh, my God. Is that illegal? Should be. In some regions, no doubt. Yeah. Cool. I'll tell you this, folks. How the fuck are those bikes so tall?

Who thought that was a good idea? So you can be a big tall man with a big tall hat. Relax. Just relax on that. Yeah, it's weird. Why'd you go that big? Why the original design is big wheel at the front? Yeah.

I don't know, man. You want big wheel at the back? Yeah, kind of. Then it'd be like a dragster. How'd you even park that anywhere? You don't. You throw it in the river. Oh, okay.

That makes sense. You throw it in the Thames. That's why the water's so rusty. That makes sense. Folks, I'll tell you this much. Oh, yeah? I can do this. I've done it so many times.

He's not doing it. He's freezing up. I'm not freezing up. I'm freewheeling. I'm freewheeling. He's not freewheeling. I'm riffing, man, and this is cool, I think. He's fatiguing.

I can just, I'll just go straight into it. Oh, the sweat on his brow. Oh, God. Folks, if you want to get into contact with us, you can go to weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. You can go to the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates Facebook group. You can go to the Weekly Planet subreddit and Discord for fun, civil chats about

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Would you miss it? No. Yeah. I love having money. It's good, isn't it? From people. But only if they want to. Then otherwise I don't want it.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll definitely go back to you. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah. Or you can go to bigsandwich.co. Sign up for $9 per month bonus podcast, movie commentaries, early videos, video game let's plays, all sorts of stuff. No plans for next week, is there, in terms of the show?

Because the next week is spam. Oh, yeah. We could do Mr. and Mrs. Smith. That's true. We could do the dry two this time next week is Spam. Oh, yeah. We could do Mr. and Mrs. Smith. That's true. We could do the dry too. This time it's pretty wet. Oh, yeah. Pretty wet dry.

Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah. I do want to read pretty – I've read it actually. Claire interviewed the author. Oh. It was delightful. Eric Banner, the author. Eric Banner.

No, Mason. He didn't write the book. What was the name? So you're saying he couldn't write a book if he tried? Nah, no fucking way. The creator of Poita. No. Legendary Australian character Poita.

No. Jane Harper. Nice. No, he couldn't write a book. Wow. I'm issuing the challenge. Wow. Do you think we could get the person who was after a gift voucher for Melbourne,

maybe a gift voucher for Eric Banner on Cameo? He could do Poita. He could say, welcome to Melbourne. And he'd have a tinny. He wouldn't be on Cameo. I'm going to check. No, that's true. He wouldn't be.

No. No, I think he's too serious now. Yeah. Sometimes they'll get like, they'll do a week of like charity or whatever and they'll get some special celebrities. That's true. To pop in. Yep, yep, yep, yep.

Yeah. Anyways, we're really going. That's true. Thank you to the Brute. That's Gabriel Tice Bruton. Damn. And the Basilisk and Rack and Frollo musical themes. And if you want a t-shirt, you go to tpublic.com.

You search for the Weekly Planet. Mm-hmm. That's right. There's YouTubers on Cameo. I could go on Cameo. It's true. Look at this guy. In the state you're in right now.

Yeah, look at these other people. I'm like, am I more or less famous than any of these people? No, I mean like. Oh, you said I'm in now. No. No, no, no, no, no. I'm like, am I famous? I don't know.

I can't tell if I'm more or less famous than any of these people. Somebody pays 50 bucks for a cameo from you and you're just like, oh, it's so hot. It's so hot in here, Melvin. Somebody hot. I don't want to be one of those guys that's like, oh, I don't recognize any of these people or whatever. And I don't mean, I just, I'm not, I don't know what the fuck is happening anywhere. So it's not my fault though, is it? All right. Thanks everyone. Grabbed our jam, you guys. We'll see you next week for a thing. I don't know what the fuck is happening anywhere.

It's not my fault, though, is it? All right, thanks, everyone. Grabbed our jam, you guys. We'll see you next week for a thing. Goodbye. Bye. One, two, three, four. The Weekly Paddy.

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