The Weekly Planet - 515 Madame Web & The Fantastic Four Casting

Episode Date: February 19, 2024

We're kicking off the year of SPUMM (the Sony Pictures Universe Of Marvel Movies) with the release of Madame Web, one of the most baffling comic book movies of all time. Plus we've got confirmation of The Fantastic Four, Deadpool & Wolverine already breaking records, trailers for Godzilla X Kong, Invincible Season 2 Part II and X-Men 97, when we'll be seeing a live action Miles Morales and more. Thanks for listeningVisit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Please be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start02:39 Deadpool & Wolverine Break Records04:04 MCU Thunderbolts Moves & Sora AI07:20 The Fantastic Four vs Superman: Legacy Release10:00 The Fantastic Four Casting Confirmed19:43 Midnight Sons Movie Rumours22:11 Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire Trailer25:15 Invincible S2 Part 2 Trailer26:32 X-Men '97 Animated Trailer33:42 He-Man Live Action Movie37:02 Live Action Miles Morales Movie38:35 Madame Web Full Spoiler Review01:17:34 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:22:42 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of The Weekly Planet, where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. With me is always my co-host, Nick Mason. Absolutely. We're back. We're doing it. We're deep into Madame Webuary.

God, you've got to be, don't you? Absolutely. In this economy? Yeah. You're wasting money not being in the Madame Webuary. You're throwing money away. It's like they're stealing from you. Did you get in early?

Did you go on Valentine's Day? You could have gone early? No. Did you take anybody special? No. You don't consider yourself special? You don't value your own company? That's a great point. And yourself as a person? No. Okay, yeah. No, me neither. To that of you or me. Great. Good.

As long as we're all on the same page. We certainly are. It's a big week this week because, of course, we are going to be talking about the latest Sony Pictures Universe of Marvel Movies movie, Madam Web. That's right. It's Madam Web. It's Madam Web, you're a spum. God, we're in it, man. We certainly are.

We're in a new era. And it's just gone exactly as I thought it would and in new and fresh, interesting ways. That's right. We'll get into it. It's gone troppo. Yeah, it really has. There's time codes below if you just want to jump straight to that.

It's gone off chops. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's time codes below if you just want to jump straight to that. It's gone off chops. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But before we get there, we've got to talk about the record-breaking Deadpool and Wolverine trailer. Was it really record-breaking? It broke a record, Mason. Huh.

Yeah. Some new release dates for the Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four, speaking of. Oh, that's been fantastic. I mean, that's almost capable of eclipsing Madame Wobblery. You reckon? No. No, I don't think so either.

I was lying to myself there. I mean, we got the cast, which we knew. But we didn't know. We pretty much knew. But we knew. Because somebody on Twitter broke it like months ago. Yeah, six months ago. And we also got like the first kind of promotional image

and there's a bit of information in there which we'll get into. We also got some rumors concerning a Midnight Suns movie. Ooh. Trailers ahoy for Godzilla X-Kong Invincible Season 2 Part 2 and X-Men 97. He-Man news. He-Man? He-Man and the Masters of the Universe.

Wow. And a live-action Miles Morales movie or situation might be sooner than you think. How, though? After this? After Madame Webuary? No, this is disconnected. Oh, is it?

Okay. It's in a separate universe we can't access and they can't get out. Because I was going to say, I mean, after this, obviously there's going to be a lot of Madame Web sequels and stuff. Where are they going to find the time in their production schedule to make a Miles Morales movie? Does anyone even know who that is? I don't think so.

I don't think so. I mean, if you did, you'd go in to see Madam Web and that information would disappear from your brain. That's all you'd want. Yeah. Let's kick things off with this. So Deadpool and Wolverine, Mason, it broke a record. I don't know if you heard this.

I don't think it did. No, it did. Every aspect of what you're saying suggests, and the way you're saying it suggests that it didn't break any records. No, it is the biggest trailer of all time with 365 million views in the first 24 hours. That beat out, well, No Way Home beat out Endgame and this beat out No Way Home.

You've got a little twinkle in your eye. There's no twinkle, Mason. This is straight shooting facts. Wow. Yeah. So it's big. It looks like it's going to be big. It's probably going to be, well, it's R-rated.

I was going to say it could be a billion-dollar movie. It could still be a billion-dollar movie being R-rated. But it looks to be there's a lot of hype generated. And we love hype. You're the weekly planner. We love it. We love it. And we released a video earlier this week that Matt edited,

which was the segment of the podcast where we talked about it and the title was something like, is this going to save the MCU, et cetera. And a lot of people were saying, no, I'm going to see it, but no, this is just a one-off situation. And it might be. And some people are also like, I don't want to see it. I'm not seeing these anymore.

And it's like, I think you're going to see it. I think you're here and I think you will see it. Yeah, how did you find it? Oh, just found yourself on YouTube. Just found yourself on YouTube. Having opinions about comic book movies. Not even looking at the Deadpool trailer, but looking at stuff adjacent to the Deadpool trailer.

That's really interesting. Dude. Dude. So, yeah, this is going to be a big movie, even if it's dreadful. Deadful. Full. I don't know.

So there you go. But let's move things along to this, because the Thunderbolts, Mason, has been rescheduled from July 25th of next year to May 2nd. They're bringing it up. They're bringing it up. Which means they're going to have to start filming it at some point. Maybe write a script and stuff.

Yeah, yeah. Get some people involved, you know. Did you see the Flutter this week because there's that new AI video generating thing? Oh, you're saying they should just make the Thunderbolts today? Yeah, just do that. And it's that weird drone angle just going through. Yeah, sure. That they that they're using some are interesting like i saw one of a chameleon yeah i saw one of uh some puppies in the snow in the snow exactly yeah yeah i mean it's it's

genuinely like impressive technology but also i would love to see what the source data on that is totally the source data is a video of puppies in the snow well exactly calling a man and they just had to cut that out. Yeah. There's also one of archaeologists uncovering like a plastic lawn chair. Okay. But they hadn't figured out the physics of the lawn chair, so they just picked it out of the ground and then it just sort of floats along in the air.

That's amazing. It's interesting. It'll be interesting to develop like surreal images. But again, as I understand it, the technology now is limited to one minute. So they're going to have to do a bunch of them to finish the Thunderbolts. Yeah, sure. That's fine. Just do one minute 200 times.

That's right. That's 200 minutes. Yeah, yeah. Drone shot, Thunderbolts. They're fighting Baron Zemo or he's on the team. Yeah. And there's Helicarrier and the bad guy is you pick. Yep. You pick AI.

Pick one. It doesn't matter. Oh, my goodness. So, look, I think this technology will be mostly useful for companies just wanting B-roll because I don't think anybody really wants this. Even if it's, like, absolutely flawless, I don't want to see a movie of this. No, it's not. Because people are saying, well, now I can recreate my shows.

I can be, like, Soprano season whatever. Why? Don't you want the people who wrote and were in that show to make the show and not just like a weird approximation of. And it'll be dead eyes as well. Yeah, of course. And even if it's not, like why do you want this? It's not interesting.

No. Anyway. I mean this is like the worst version of this that it's ever going to be. It's only going to get better. Oh, that's true. So maybe it will get to the point. Technologically it will get better. Technologically, yeah, but like story-wise,

like what can you do with this? I don't know. Remember somebody released that video and it's like, this is exactly like The Great Gatsby. It's just, look out, Baz Luhrmann, because we've just made The Great Gatsby. And it's just like people looking at the cat. Like all these trailers are just people,

oh, somebody made Lord of the Rings. They're like, this is more Lord of the Rings by Peter Jackson. And again, it's just people, like elfin people looking into the camera and being like, eh. Is that all you took from these movies? That's interesting. Patrick Williams did a thing on it. I don't know if you saw his video because he did the X-Men one that he did.

It was X-Men, Wes Anderson. Wes Anderson. And he did all that was X-Men Wes Anderson. Wes Anderson. And he did all that and he filmed it all and found some locations that Wes Anderson really used and found like period appropriate X-Men costumes and framed it beautifully and whatever. He found them in the garbage. He found them. Yeah, yeah.

And then he did like, well, what if I just recreated this now using this AI technology of where it's at? And it's exactly what you're talking about. Just looking at the camera. Yeah. Anyway. Again, it's only going to get better, but we'll see. Why did we go from Thunderbolts to AI?

Because that's how they're going to make it. Oh, yeah, of course. That's how they should make it. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, so the July 25th release date has now been taken by the Fantastic Four, which also looks to compete with Superman Legacy, which is coming out on the 11th,

like a few weeks earlier. Yeah, I had a thought about this. Do you think this is Kevin Feige counter-programming to sort of tip over DC's apple cart? Or do you think they're trying to build like an Oppenheimer situation, a Barbenheimer situation? Well, there's 14, 15-ish days between. So I think there's, if they're both good and you want to see them, there's room there.

Super Fantastic. Yeah. Or Fantastic Man. I mean, if this was like Godzilla. Or Four Man. Four Men. Four Man. But if it was like Godzilla versus Superman or Godzilla versus Fantastic Four

or whatever, people wouldn't think anything of this because they're both superhero movies. But, I mean, my thinking is that these, to me, would be very different. Yeah. And I would see both regardless of doing this show, which is saying something because some of the movies we see, Mason, the few that we've seen this year, I wouldn't see outside of this show. Wow, very interesting and a betrayal of the studio system.

We've worked very hard to cultivate a wonderful relationship. We have a beautiful relationship. We do. Yeah. I mean, they didn't let us on the Madam Web Press tour, but that's only because we didn't ask. And they wouldn't have had us. And they wouldn't.

And we wouldn't want to do it. And we'd only have bad questions. God, I think I would at this point. And they would only give us bad answers. God, yeah, but imagine though. God, because you see people bringing, did you see someone, I think it was from comicbook.com. Did they bring in the meme?

Or a comic and was like, this is the first Madam Webcomic and she's like Dakota Johnson. Yeah, right. Just like, wow, look at this. Yeah, no, this is the first edition, is it? Great. Wow. It's really fun.

Did you own this or was it in the offices? No, I bought it for this, for this interview. Wow. Can I have it? I don't want it. We'll just leave it on the table. The next Can I have it? I don't want it. We'll just leave it on the table. The next press junket can keep it if they want it. So there you go.

She also did a – I've been enjoying some of the press junket. Dakota Fanning was asked to name all the Tom Holland Spider-Man movies. Johnson. Yes. What did I say? Fanning. How else? Maybe she was too.

Yeah, absolutely. She was asked to name all the Tom Holland Spider-Man movies and she said Spider-Man, here he comes. Yeah. Spider-Man and his back and the goblet of Spider-Man. Good for her. I agree. Yeah.

I mean, she shouldn't have to promote this. It feels like community service. I know she's in it. Yeah. And, like, legally she's probably obligated to, but, you know, it feels like work. Sure does, yeah. For everybody. But at the same time, don't sign on to one of these movies and then act like you're above it. Yeah, fair it feels like work. Sure does, yeah. For everybody.

But at the same time, don't sign on to one of these movies and then act like you're above it. Yeah, fair enough. Or do. Or do. If you want to burn some bridges, I don't know. Again, she's a weird celebrity from Celebrity Parents. That's true.

Of course she's like this. Yeah. Anyway, the cast is confirmed with a fantastic four. We already knew this, but Pedro Pascal is Reed Richards. Vanessa Kirby is Sue Storm slash The Invisible Woman. Joseph Quinn, who people might know from Stranger Things, he's Eddie, is Sue Storm slash The Invisible Woman. Joseph Quinn, who people might know from Stranger Things, he's Eddie, is Johnny Storm slash The Human Torch. And Ebon Moss, Backrack.

How do you say that, Bark? I'm saying Backrack. Backrack. Like Bert Backrack. Like Bert Backrack. Is Ben Grimm slash The Thing. Now, I would say generally speaking, if you look at reactions across the internet,

nobody seems to have a problem with Vanessa Kirby as Invisible Woman. Yep. And absolutely nobody has any problems with Eben Moss-Bachrach as The Thing. They're like, these are good castings. But some people are like, Pedro Pascal, Mr. Fantasy, I don't think so. Oh, Joseph Quinn, he's a guy.

I don't think there's a guy. Because he had a week in Stranger Things. Yeah, because he doesn't look like Chris Evans. But also, like, just look at any kind of promotional photo of that guy, any kind of, like, GQ photo shoot or whatever. It's going to be okay. He looks like a cool, handsome guy. And even the promo image, which I – do you think they've done, like,

an in-house promo shot just in casual clothes, and that's been used as a reference to – Oh, good. And then they did the art over the top. They traced it, did they? They traced it, good. And then they did the art over the top. Yeah, yeah. They traced it, did they? They traced it, yeah. They got AI to trace it.

Potentially. I mean, it's pretty accurate to their likenesses. Yeah. I think they probably did like an in-house thing in Marvel and then they just gave it to an artist and said. Fix this. Yeah, fix this in post. Well, what is interesting about that is.

You know the thing we say? Do that. Fix it in post. Yeah. You know the thing we say to everybody? Hey, this coffee that you got me, PA, it's a little cold. Can you fix it in post? Do you mean put it in the microwave? Fix it in post. You know the thing we say to everybody? Hey, this coffee that you got me, PA, it's a little cold. Can you fix it in post? Do you mean put it in the microwave? Fix it in post.

Fix it in post. Fix you in post. Boy, it's kind of stuffy in here. Could you fix that window in post? Do you mean open the window? Fix it in post. Just fix it in post. It's Marvel. You know what it means. It's hot in here.

I'm Kevin Feige. Oh, it's him. It's Kevin. I don't know, maybe. Yeah, it would be. So anyway, the Rebinder was released on Valentine's Day and it is set in the 1960s, specifically maybe the year 1963 because the Life magazine that the thing is reading is December 13th issue

with Lyndon B. Johnson on the front cover. Now, I looked up this actual issue because you can see the back cover in the promo picture, but the back cover in real life was an ad for Salem Cigarettes, which is not on the back cover, which I'm really mad about actually. So this also speaks to- And now it's Marvel Cigarettes. Yeah, that's right.

Marvel brand cigarettes, fix a bit post. Your lung's gone. You got some dicky lungs because you've smoked too many Marvel cigarettes? Well, fix them in post. So do you think this confirms the initial at least 1960s setting? Well, I mean, some people have said. Who? Internet people.

Yep. This maybe is just, oh, it's a little bit of art because the Fantastic Four debuted in the 60s, a little throwback art because the Fantastic Four debuted in the 60s, a little throwback to that. Imagine if it were the 60s for these characters, but it's going to be set in the modern day probably. But I think the clues are too specific in the poster, like the Life magazine.

Otherwise they just have him reading a magazine. Yeah, exactly. Or looking on his phone or whatever. Yeah, and they know that people are going to look into this and be like. I think that also it's the Fantastic whatever. Yeah, and they know that people are going to look into this and be like. I think that also it's the Fantastic Four. I didn't even realize that. As distinguished from Fantastic Four or Fant4stic.

Yeah. Yeah, I suspect if I were to take a shot at the plot of this potentially, my guess is it's going to be because the Fantastic Four actually debuted in 61, I think. Okay. So my guess would be they have their origin, briefly. We get a few little adventures. Or they're already established.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like Spider-Man was. Absolutely. And then we get to 63 and there's some incident. They've already been like, I'm this one and I'm this one. They already did that? They already did which ones they were. I'm this one.

Yeah, that's right. Well, I'm this one. We'll fix these in post. And in turn, we'll do some research on what they're called, what their powers are, what their characterisation is like. We'll put it in ADL. We'll get IO to do it. We'll just get some audio from Evan Moss-Bachrach on the bear.

We'll just have him. Cousin. Yeah, exactly. This is good. But I'm mad about it. Snyder Cut. And I've got a gun. He does have a gun.

So often that guy has a gun. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go on. And then as part of, you know, whichever villain, I think it might be Galactus. People have suggested it might be Galactus. We're talking about a female herald of Galactus and Javier Bardem rumoured for Galactus.

You want a big face. You do want a very big face. That's true. Ultimate nullifier? Yeah, maybe. But then their ultimate sacrifice is they're like, okay, we've got to stop this guy. We have to head out into deep, deep space.

And then when they come back, due to time dilation or relativity or whatever. Or they jump a dimension. Yeah, I'm thinking it's going to be time dilation. I think so too. And then they come back and it's the present day. Because then they can have a scene with young Michael Douglas and he's like, hey, get out of here.

Exactly. I'm an ant man. You're a rock man. That's not going to work. You know? We'll fix it in post. We'll fix it in post. We'll both be the same type of man.

And then they're back and it's the present day and then Doc Doom is the ruler of Latveria. Oh. I think that'll be an additional. So you don't think that they knew him initially? I think they probably did know him because they went to uni with him. Oh, and he grew up. He grew up, exactly.

Okay, cool. He's used their absence to become the ruler of Latveria. I know Ben Bendo threw his hat in the ring for Dr. Doom, but you're already Skullbatron. He is Skullbatron. You can't be him. You can be Skullbatron. No, I mean, he's wearing the mask, I guess. That's exactly what I'm saying. He keeps it Australian.

Get out, boys. For you, is it? Alright. Don't know about that. Oh Anyway, he's always working. Get out, boys. For you, is it? All right. Don't know about that. Oh, yeah, that's not bad, actually, yeah. Yeah, I think it'll be a Doctor Doom, like, tease. It won't be like a Doctor Doom movie necessarily. Yeah. Oh, the other person who appears.

Oh, it's Forry, is it? There's only bloody six cans in his six pack. So what are you boys going to be having? Zap. Yeah, no, still do a big zap. his six pack so what are you boys gonna be having zap yeah nice uh herbie the robots there he's new terrible bit oh yeah herbie the robot is also there yeah yeah which is interesting so so he he was the robot that replaced johnny storm in the uh fantastic four cartoon in the 60s was that i know there's rumour that's because kids were going to set themselves on fire, but is that actually true? Might also be a licensing issue.

Yeah, yeah, okay. Because there was a few Human Torches, weren't there? Like different versions from different comic books. Oh, well, there's a version from the 40s. There's a hint at one in, I want to say, the first Captain America. Oh, yeah, there is. Yeah, it's when Steve and Bucky go to the World's Fair or whatever it is.

Whatever it is. The Stark Expo. There is a human torch looking guy in a tube. But it's not the original human torch. I mean, it's not the fire one. It's this one. It's the original one. It's not Johnny Storm.

No, exactly. It's Jim Hammond. It's Jiminy Storm. Potentially. Let's look up Herbie the Robot. Let's do this. What does it stand for? Because it's H-E-R-B-I-E, isn't it?

It's like an acronym. Oh. It's an anachronism. Oh. It's an anachronist. Oh. You want an acronym? No.

The character was initially conceived for the new Fantastic Four. Oh, this is 1978. Okay. So 1978, the character of the Human Torch was unable to be used as at the time the character had been optioned separately for use in a solo film which never materialised. Oh, okay. What an odd call.

Yeah, good as any. I like it. By 1978, they would have absolutely perfected the art of putting that sticky stuff on people and then setting it on fire so they can run around in warehouses and stuff. Jump off of whatever. Yeah, he wouldn't be doing any flying. He'd just be doing a lot of jumping off of boxes and stuff while on fire.

What did I read recently? I think it was. Oh, no, that robber's going to get away. The only thing that could stop him is a guy on fire jumping off some boxes and crashing onto him. He's done it. And we did it live. Oh, my God.

Not in post. You're fired. That's right. I remember this. Herbie turned up. Do you read Old Man Quill? So, you know,. That's right. I remember this. Herbie turned up. Have you ever heard Old Man Quill? So you know they did Old Man Logan. They did Old Man Peter Quill.

And he comes back to Earth and he's an old man and he visits like the Fantastic Four place and Herbie's still there. And so there's a fun little interaction with Herbie, yeah, which is, you know, a fun little throwback. That sounds fun. Anyway, will this be good? Anything can be good, but not anything, as we've learned twice this year. That's right.

So far. On the Fantastic Four cartoon, Herbie was voiced by Frank Welker. Oh. Bring him back, I say. Megatron zone. Bring him back. Among other things. Or get Hugo Weaving.

Yeah, sure. I am Herbie. Exactly. Filming begins this summer. That's Northern Hemisphere summer for those of us in the south, in the deep, deep south, which I know we are. Check it out. Check it out.

Check it out. That's your pitch, is it? Check it out, man. Great. Wow. Okay. Any other thoughts on Fantastic Four? I like it.

I like the eyes. Look, from what we've seen so far, I like it. I mean, again, they've mocked up Pedro Pascal with the white at the temples. I think it looks good. Yep. He has a beard sometimes in the comics. Sometimes he's got a beard. Who's calling me?

My mum. Well. Let me get this. Yeah, all right. Sometimes somebody dies. Yeah, I know. Hello. That was my mum.

Oh, thanks, mum. Oh, thanks, mum. Yeah. It's good to thank you, mum. Oh, I'm grateful, mum. I am. Grateful for the gift of life, mum. Oh, I'm Mum. Yeah. It's good to thank you, Mum. Oh, I'm grateful, Mum. I am. Grateful for the gift of life, Mum. Oh, I'm not about that.

Yeah. So, yeah, this is also directed by Matt Shackman, who more recently worked on, what was the Marvel thing that he worked on recently? Oh, he did, he worked on Monarch. And he did WandaVision. WandaVision, that's right. So, yeah, good stuff going on here.

We'll see how we go. I agree. All right. They probably just went, just do it like the retro stuff. Yeah. They probably just went, just do it like the retro stuff. Yeah. They went, Matt, just do it like the retro stuff in WandaVision. And he went, all right. But by the end, if you could do lasers.

He's like, I did that. Did you not watch WandaVision? They're like, no. No, we just saw the promo. We don't watch it. Yeah. We just get them to fix it in post. It's rumor time.

Uh-oh. It's the rumor time. This is by DCEU Leaks. And also Daniel Richtman confirmed this, a Midnight Suns project is in development at Marvel. So this came from DCEU leaks. They're leaking all things. Can't change a Twitter handle at this point.

This is what it is. Michael Gianchino is one of the directors currently eyed by Marvel to direct. He did Wolfman by Night. Michael Giacchino? Giacchino, yeah, what did I say? I said the right thing too. Yeah, yeah. He's also a composer, right?

Yes, he is a composer. He's worked on multiple composers. He did The Batman. He did do The Batman. That's a good movie. It is, I agree. They should drop the the. It's cleaner.

Don't you think? Or put it in the middle. Put it in the middle. Bat the man. Bat the man. Bat the man, help. Oh, looks like he's busy. Or he's ignoring us on purpose.

What do you think about that? Well, what are the Midnight Suns team? It's the spooky team. It's the spooky team. It's spooky adventures, basically. Yeah. And it's, you know, it's... Usually Doctor Strange led.

Sometimes. He's in it. I mean... There was a game this year, maybe? There was, yeah. Which apparently good, but nobody bought it. But that was Midnight Suns S-U-N-S, whereas the comic that was Midnight Suns S-U-N-S, whereas the comic version is Midnight Suns S-O-N-S.

Oh, my God. But then I guess they were like, well, if it's S-O-N-S, we can't have girls. Great point. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, I mean, the problem here, of course, is that in order to have a Midnight Suns piece of content, you've got to individually have some Midnight Suns solo projects.

So you need a Blade movie. Which is maybe happening. Maybe. Ghost Rider. Do they bring back the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Ghost Rider? Well, they could put in. Isn't the Punisher in it sometimes? It could be.

WandaVision. Wanda and Vision or just Wanda. You could put the spooky ones in there. Put the spooky ones in there. Sure, sure, sure. What's the spooky? Well, Werewolf, obviously. That's true.

Bynight, if you're available. Werewolf and Man thing, sure. Yep, there you go. Okay, well, the team's basically done. Wolverine sure, sure. That's a spooky. Well, Werewolf, obviously. That's true. Why not? Werewolf and Man thing, sure. Yep, there you go. Okay, well, the team's basically done. Wolverine might be around at this point. No, surely not. Yeah, I don't know, man. Wow.

I know there was also rumors of a Ghost Rider movie this week. I don't know whether that's going to happen, et cetera. But, yeah, why not? I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, sure. It's not my job. It's my job to do this.

Sometimes just Johnny Blaze and he doesn't have the Ghost Rider powers anymore. Oh, but he's got his motorbike. Sometimes. Cool. Yeah, sometimes he takes the bus. A big fiery bus? No, just a regular bus. Listen.

I mean, sometimes buses just become fiery on their own. I'm going to be lighting this bus on fire for my trip to the shops. That's right. Okay, Mr. Blaze. All right. Trailers ah. Blows. All right. Trailers ahoy, though. Honk. We got one, a new trailer for Godzilla X Kong.

Will we get Godzilla and Kong fighting again in this? We do. Is that okay? I don't think it's okay. They already had a fight. Yeah, I know. But people, you know, they get along. Yeah.

Then, you know, maybe Godzilla wrote his name on something on the fridge and then he went to the fridge for it later and Kong had eaten it or it was gone. Yeah. And who else lives in the apartment? And you know it's Kong because he left his big glowing axe in there. That's exactly right. You know sometimes you accidentally leave your keys in the fridge

or whatever? Sure, absolutely. You do that and Kong's going around. He's like, where's my big glowing axe? I know you took it, Godzilla. Godzilla's like, well, would I? Yeah. Well, would I take the big...

I don't use tools. I'm a lizard. It's just a copy of what I do, if anything. Well, it is. It's technically one of its plates, isn't it? I think so, yeah. Yeah, that's great. But I think Godzilla has gone mad because he's regenerating or whatever

or he's got too much power. It looks like a too much power situation. Puberty. He's running around, he's got too much power. Yeah, okay, fine. He's running around going through puberty and he's got too much power. It looks like a too much power situation. He's running around, he's got too much power. Yeah, okay, fine. He's running around going through puberty and he's got too much power because there's scenes where the Air Force are attacking him and he's blasting him with a big zap in his body.

I think he's got too much power and then he's going to go, he's fighting Godzilla, he's fighting Kong, and he's going to go into that hibernation state. He's going to regenerate his pink Godzilla and then he's going to come out and he's going to fight Kong again and then Kong's going to's going to regenerate his pink Godzilla and then he's going to come out and he's going to fight Kong again. And then Kong's going to be like, come on, man, what about this other big monkey? Let's beat up this big gorilla together. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I want to know the scale of the mini Kong. We haven't seen it next to anybody. How big is it? Because there's a moment in, I think, the previous trailer where it looks like it's going to be an enormous gorilla coming at him and then the shadow shrinks down and he's a teeny little Godzilla. I think he's – I reckon he's like – speaking of buses, you flipped a bus up.

It's like bus size. Yeah, okay. What are you thinking? I think that's about right. Yeah. Sure. Something to think about. Because he's got to be – even as a baby,

he's got to be significantly bigger than a regular gorilla. Yeah. Do you like how the bad guy's just got a bigger whip? Is that whip – that whip appears to be part of Godzilla's glove, isn't it? Part of Godzilla's glove? Part of Kong's glove. I thought Kong was battling. He is, but I think that's initially part of his glove.

Oh, okay. And the other guy whips it off him. Oh, I thought that was a weapon because, you know, they have weapons. I thought that was his weapon and then Kong needed a weapon. Oh. Whatever. Or whatever. Seems like he must have lost his axe.

Tricky's going to get his axe matched. And then he's like, I need a new weapon. I left it in the fridge. The oldness style. I left it in the fridge. Yeah. He did leave it in the fridge. Well, it's handy if it's late at night.

You open the fridge door. Maybe the light isn't working as well as it should. Big glowing radiation axe. Put the big glowing action axe to see what snacks Godzilla's left in the fridge so you can eat them. Yeah, yeah. I love that they live together. I do too.

I'm loving this. I think the director said something along the lines of they're a real buddy cop duo in this I do too. I'm loving this. I think the director said something along the lines of they're a real buddy cop duo in this movie. Sure. I'm loving that. The more I see them running together, the more I'm loving it. Yeah. It's great.

I was never not loving it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the more I'm loving that the Japanese Godzilla movies are like, this is about the failure of the government, and then the American ones are like, this is about dudes being bros. So that's what our movies are about. Oh, my goodness. Mason, we've got a trailer for Invincible Season 2 Part 2,

another four episodes. Got some hints towards what's coming. That's right. The Seacwoods are back. They're making their way towards Earth. The Lizard League is there. Oh, yes. Armstrong Levy. Some of these words would sound like nonsense if you were. The Lizard League is there. Oh, yes. Armstrong Levy.

Some of these words would sound like nonsense if you were not familiar with the show in principle. Totally, totally, totally. Armstrong Levy is the big villain that appears because if you remember the last season and this happened in the comics. He's interdimensional. Yeah, he interdimensions himself and he puts all the brains into one brain. He's got one big brain.

Yeah, and he hates Mark Grayson across all dimensions and whatever. He hates anyone named Mark across any dimensions. And there are hints towards what he does with these abilities and whatever, but if you haven't seen it, which you haven't yet because it's not out, but if you haven't read it, I'm like, because there's other stuff in here that I won't spoil. Like Mark Grayson with a cape means a particular thing. Mark Capeson.

Mark Capeson, which I won't get into. March 14th, though, if you're interested. Omni-Man still in prison. Still in prison for being too cool. That's right. Too cool, man. Yeah. It's tough. That's the government for you, though. It's tough to be a player. Yeah, it is. Like Omni-Man. But don't hate the player.

Hate the guy who used his son to kill a bunch of people in a train. By holding his face up to the train and all the people mushed into him. Yeah. As they say. We also got a trailer. Go on.

After many hints for X-Men 97. That's right. Which is a continuation of the 90s series. I thought this was going to get cancelled. Like that Spider-Man thing that is probably cancelled. That's still happening. Is it? But they've retooled it so it's not a prequel series.

It's set in the MCU. It's like independent of all of that, I believe, with some elements that carry over. Are they doing Principal Coulson in that? Yeah. Oh, that was another thing they already did or something. But, yes, something like – if it's not that, it's something like that. Sure, great.

I don't remember what. All right. I'll think about it when I need to. Okay. Marvel will fix it in post. X-Men 97. So did the original X-Men cartoon series end with Professor X dying? I guess so.

Okay. I mean, I didn't get all the way through it, did you? I mean, I guess. Because it came on once a week. I reckon in Australia they probably showed them in a random order. Yeah. It was that time when nobody cared about continuity. I think it was also they did that everywhere else as well.

Yeah, sure. And there might have been some DVD issues with what to watch. I bet of the X-Men cartoon series from that era, I've seen a bunch of episodes five times and some of them never. We did some. Did we do Days of Future Past once or talk about it? Potentially. A lot of the comic book storylines, like they did like the Dark Phoenix saga,

et cetera, they do like Cable and Bishop and a bunch of stuff like that, time travel nonsense. Cable and Bishop live together in an apartment, et cetera. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a very good show. I clearly put my name on that techno-organic virus. New assets.

New assets. Yeah, I remember enjoying it a lot as a kid. I can't say I've watched much of it since. I don't think it endured the same way for me as like Batman

and the Animated Series. But also, Batman and the Animated Series like it never really stopped. It has always continued in various incarnations. Uh-huh, yeah. Whereas the X-Men kind of pivoted into just what they were doing

in the movies. And every now and then they do the, you know, like more recently, like here's the X-Men thing. You like this? Yeah. You dumb fucks. You like this? You like these jangling keys?

We do. I do actually. Here at the Weekly Planet we do. We love them actually. Yeah. Ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling. Oh, yes, please. A lot of. Ding-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling love them, actually. Ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling. Oh, yes, please. A lot of...

Ding-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling. Ding-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling. Now, a lot of cast is returning. Some new. The animation style is different because this is cell-shaded... 3D computer-generated. ...computer animation made to look too good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Once you get the character models, it's cheaper. Oh, sure. Because you can infinitely use them. Yes, you don't have to draw every frame. Every time, yeah. And obviously there is something lost in that, but there is an expediency. Something to be gained.

Yeah. It's fast. It's faster. Yeah. And then you plug it into that AI thing. Yep. And then you can have the X-Men walking down all kinds of streets. Oh, my God.

With a drone shot. Yeah, exactly. Magneto is perfect. Magneto's here somewhere down this nondescript street. He's there. We can't go up there. Yeah. That's just a background.

Yeah. Oh, he's there. He's on the same plane of – he's in our line of sight, which is good. Well, Magneto is perfect. He's in our line of sight. That's perfect. So I can look at the camera dramatically at him and he can look back. This is perfect.

This is perfect for us. God, this is expedient. Expedient. Wow. Professor X is dead and Magneto is Professor X now. He's like, I was left everything. Do you think that's true or do you think he's doing a big trick? Do you think this is creative accounting?

Yeah. Do you think he forged Professor X's signature? Maybe. And nobody's thought to check. Maybe he found a mutant whose mutant ability is perfectly forged signatures. That's probably possible too. Sure. Yeah, yeah. Because they could also just go, no, we don't allow this.

What if we blasted a hole through your body? Yeah. Magneto. You're not wearing your helmet. Yeah, that's right. Did he have that luxurious long hair in the cartoon? Not that I remember. Well, it's been some time.

There's been a few times where he's like infiltrated the X-Men or led various X-Men teams. Yeah, he's worked in the school, so yeah. He's an anti-hero of sorts depending on who's riding him. Sure, depending on your opinion of killing Nazis, if it's bad or not. It's killing Nazis and sometimes he goes too far, right? Yeah.

Yeah. There's a moment where you see Gambit. He supercharges Wolverine's claws. Does that mean his claws are going to explode on you? I hope so. Yeah. I hope so. That'd be cool.

Is this version of Wolverine? He's like, ah, Gambit, you dog. Why would you do this? Does this version of Wolverine have the bone claws under that? I don't remember. No, I have no idea. And they look very thin from memory. They do, yes. I don't know. No way of knowing. God. And they look very thin from memory. They do, yes.

So I don't know what they're doing here. There's also, look. I never liked that bone claw situation. No, me neither. I never liked it. Or was that the Wolverine prequel comic that brought that idea in? No, it was brought in. Well before that?

No, before that. So it was brought in in a storyline where Magneto ripped all the adamant. He ripped all the adamantium off Wolverine's body and then everyone was like, what's Wolverine going to do with that claws? But then it turned out he already had claws. Yeah, yeah. People were like, whoa.

I remember you told me this. There's like an X-Ray X-Men thing from like the 90s where it's a mechanical. I feel very confident. The machinations are built. In his solo series in the 90s, there's a scene where he has to go through airport security and to show everybody why he keeps setting

off the metal detector, he puts his hand in the X-ray machine and you can see it's got like mechanical stuff in there. Yep, yep. Oh, is Ollie here? Is Ollie here? Hello. Hello, Ollie. Hello.

Where did you go? It's time time, everyone. Hello Hello, Ollie Hello Where'd you go? Time to have a beer Alright, out you go Okay Okay, bye, Ollie Bye That was fun Didn't seem fun for you Not fun

Okay, great, that's good Not fun, mate Have you considered patting the dog? I pat my dog as many times as I want Which is none Oh, brutal There's also the thing of like, are they He would be a cat person I'm not a cat person, Mason Packing the dog. I pat my dog as many times as I want, which is none. Brutal. There's also the thing of like, oh, they- He would be a cat person.

I'm not a cat person, Mason. I'm not against cats. Sure. I just don't need another thing in my life. Not even the thing? No. Eben Moss back rack? I mean, I like him.

He's pretty good, isn't he? Yeah. What was I going to say? Also, he's been a Marvel guy as well. Yeah, he's micro. Yeah. Well, the thing, you said something earlier about a guy couldn't be another guy. Yeah, but there's a difference between being a minor Netflix guy

and a show, which may or may not be, but probably is. And being a supporting character in a movie several years ago and then a supporting character in a show where you're killed that nobody saw except for the last episode, which everyone hated because it was stupid that he wasn't in. People saw Captain Marvel, the movie. I know. And he's going to be wearing a mask, I guess, if he's Doctor Doom. That that he wasn't in. People saw Captain Marvel, the movie. I know. And he's going to be wearing a mask, I guess, if he's Doctor Doom.

That's what I'm saying. Yeah, look, whatever, man. I don't care. Let him do it. I don't care. Mads Mikkelsen wants to do it or is rumoured as well. I'm going to drink this too. He's new.

Fine with me. You hand me a straw? A straw? He needs a straw. He would need a straw. Paper straw. There's a character that's like non-binary because it can be anybody and people are like, oh, here we go.

And it's like, yep, it's the fucking X-Men idiot. Do you not understand the X-Men? I don't think they should have any minorities on this X-Men show. It's also like it's. They're just guys who shoot lasers and whatever. I mean, it is, but it's also reflective of like, yeah, the character can be anybody. So obviously it would be, no, that's how it would work.

Sure. Anyway, whatever. March 20, it's out. Some of them. Great. Great. Deadline, they said. Deadline.

Now, Netflix, you know this. This is our new segment. Deadline. Deadline. They spent $30 million on a live-action He-Man movie. I should let you know the rules for this segment are at some point I'm going to yell, Deadline, and you have to stop. Okay.

So even if we aren't finished with a bit of news, you have to stop and we move on. I'm happy with that. Okay. That's fine. And go. Netflix, they spent $30 million on the He-Man developing it. Remember the movie? Because they have the rights for TV stuff, or they did.

Oh, live action. Yes. But now they gave up on that and it's gone over to Amazon. We've just given up. Yeah, pretty much. We've had it. We're not doing it. They're in the middle of filming.

We're done. Yeah. It went over to Amazon slash MGM Studios and now Travis Knight, the director of Bumblebee and Kubo and the Two Strings is on board to direct this He-Man movie that they're never going to make. Now, if they've got a director and it's at a new studio, this seems like a fair shot.

Absolutely. This could actually happen this time. Now, what do you want from a live-action version? Do you want who can we cast as live-action He-Man? I think they had someone in mind. I mean, the Jack Reacher guy, obviously. Oh, Alan Richardson, sure. But he must be Batman.

Well, you can't be both. We've got to wait until that falls apart before. Oh, obviously. Oh, Alan Richardson, sure. But he must be Batman. Well, you can't be both. We've got to wait until that falls apart before. Oh, yeah, that's right. I don't think he'll be Batman. No, I think he'll just do Reacher for like, he'll just get more and more money for Reacher. I mean, there's like a hundred of those books. I think he'd be a good Batman.

Yeah. But, yeah, I don't know. But he was the guy in a show, James. He was the guy. Can't be a guy in a DC show. Well, George Clooney was the guy in a show. He was ER, then he was Batman. That's so true, isn't it?

And then he was Batman again recently. That's so true. If I recall correctly. And he's going to be ER again. He's going to be Mr. ER. Doctor. That was his character's name. Doctor.

Doctor. And he always has ERs on the side of caution, am I right? Nice. That's good. What were we going to say there? Deadline. That's what you were going to say? I was going to wait until we were finished and then I was going to say deadline. That was going to be the bit. Okay, am I right? Nice, that's good. What were we going to say there? Deadline. That's what you were going to say? I was going to wait until we were finished

and then I was going to say deadline. That was going to be the bit. Okay, cool. We can still do it. I'll do it later. What do you want from He-Man? For the dark world, right? Weird magic.

Yeah, weird magic and technology, yes. And there is a certain appeal to the Dolph Lundgren version, that whole weird, terrible one we saw. But just go all out. Like, if you've got the rights, give us Battle Cat and all the- Weird vehicles. Weird vehicles. I'm going to talk about the new series on Netflix a bit later

and what we're reading. But, yeah, something akin to that. Don't be ashamed of the thing that it is. It is this weird thing that's just designed to sell toys. But whenever I watch that show and they'd bring in like a leech, I'm like, I had fucking leech in areas. Areas. That's stink or.

I didn't say stink or this time around. Okay, right. But, yeah, good questions all around. If that was a question. Many faces. Many faces, yeah. Buzz off. Skellglow.

What's his name? Skullglow. You know that guy? No. Like Skeletor, but he's not Skeletor. He's a glowing skeleton. That would be awkward, I think. Yeah, it is.

What is he? One of Skeletor's minions? Something like that. He turns up in the first season and they're like, shit, it's Skeletor. Oh, no, it's knockoff Skeletor. Oh. Yeah. It's like meeting the Go-Bots.

Yeah. Oh, wow. Oh, no, it's the Go-Bots. At least it's not the Rock Lords, I guess. That's exactly right. What was the name of the guy and he looked like He-Man, but he was a robot? Robot He the Go-Bots. At least it's not the Rock Lords, I guess. That's exactly right. What was the name of the guy and he looked like He-Man, but he was a robot? Robot He-Man?

Faker. He's in it as well. First season, yeah. Cool. The Blue He-Man. Yeah, Blue He-Man. Lee-Man. Deadline.

There we go. Last bit of news. Oh, yes. Spy Variety, which is the spice of life, as we know. That's so true. Amy Pascal. If that's not their slogan, it should be. It should be content is the spice of life. Media is a spice of life, as we know. That's so true. Amy Pascal. If that's not their slogan, it should be. It should be content is the spice of life.

Media is a slice of life. Amy Pascal, you might know, is a Spider-Man producer. Used to be at Sony. I think she left and now she just sort of owns Spider-Man. I don't know. Good for her. Yeah. A live-action Miles Morales won't be seen on screen, she said,

until we make two more movies. So people were thinking the next two Tom Holland movies. Yes. But the Spider-Verse producer and writer Chris Miller clarified on Twitter when she said not until we make two more movies, she meant beyond the Spider-Verse, which is the next animated Spider-Man movie, and the next live-action Tom Holland film. So it seems as if they're going to go movie two

in the Tom Holland Spider-Man universe. Miles Morales, and then you do a third one where they team up for the whole movie. That's cool. The whole movie. Or you kill original Peter Parker. You kill him because you're sick of him. It just happened. We're sick to death of that guy.

It has happened. That was the original Ultimate Universe. They killed original Peter Parker. That's right, yeah. That's how it went. Do you think if Tom Holland doesn't want to do Spider-Mans anymore, do you think they'll recast that Spider-Man? No, I think they'll just – there's so many – well,

I was going to say there's so many Spider-Men slash women options that you could use, but they've Spider-Man? No, I think they'll just – there's so many – well, I was going to say there's so many Spider-Men slash women options that you could use, but they've burnt through a few recently, haven't they? They sure have. They've rendered them unusable. You could also bring back one of the previous ones, you know. Or you could just use them again because, I mean – Who cares?

That's what I'm saying. Ben Mendo. Anyway. G'day there, boys. I'm Spider-Woman. Deadline. We'll go to the next segment. Okay, boys. I'm the bite of a woman. Deadline. We'll go to the next segment. Okay, great.

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So, who will you rise for? Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. From the minds who brought us Morbius, Gods of Egypt, and Dracula Untold comes Women Morbius. Oh, yes. I think that's kind of unfair. People have been saying the writers of this, they made those other movies.

They've made some Drake. But, like, as we'll talk about, a lot of things get changed along the way. You can write something amazing and then Sony do it, and then it can become whatever. Matt Sazama and Burke Sharpless, great names. Yep. They wrote, among other things, Dracula Untold, The Last Witch Hunter, Morbius, Gods of Egypt,

all of which have very low Rotten Tomatoes scores. But, yeah. Craig Marsden, didn't he do like superhero movie, which was like a parody? Yeah. He did the scary movie movies and then he made Chernobyl. Yeah. So, like, it's really about getting your vision accurately portrayed

or having the team behind it. And they say in Hollywood like if, you know, you don't make it long if you don't know how to play ball or if you're not talented in some way. Yeah. And I think what has happened with a lot of those movies, I think they've also written some good movies. But what happens I think generally is they write a good script,

writers can write a good script, and then it just gets noted to death. Yeah. And they, you know. Or killed in the edit. Killed in the edit. Or somebody has to, they're like, we need a scene where somebody says the game is on. Yeah.

Or we need the guy to build a big fist out of bats or whatever. I think that would have been in the original script because that's a genuinely good idea in my opinion. Sure, absolutely. Yeah. But now they've turned their dirty hands to MatterWeb. Wow. Let's get into this because on a budget of $80 million,

they're doing these lower budget Sony movies, the Sony Pictures Universal Marvel movie Spum. That's right. They did a similar thing with Morbius because that way you don't need to make that much money to turn a huge profit on these. Make a hit. But the problem is. This is the equation for being a hit machine.

It basically is. But you have to actually make a product that people like and don't think is laughable. But not laughable in a way where they have to see it. They're laughable in the sense that I'm just going to see all the clips on Twitter and laugh at them through that. That's right. Yeah.

So that's looking at around what was initially was initially a 20 to 25 million US opening weekend over like six days because it opened on Valentine's Day. But it might not even make 20 million at this point. It's dipping. We'll see. Monday the numbers will be confirmed. But yeah, it's not looking good. And the Bob Marley biopic is apparently doing much better.

So that's kind of killing it. And, you know, this is where we're're at what do you think the story was oh come on mate all right of madame webb so madame webb is cassie webb yeah and no one likes her and she doesn't like anyone and uh but then uh then she has a big big accident she has a big accident she drowns and then when But then. Then. She has a big accident. She has a big accident. She drowns and then when she comes back she can sort of see the future a bit in a vague way that's not really consistent. Yeah. And then it turns out there's a bloke out there and he wants

to kill three women. And he's Spider-Man. He's evil Spider-Man. Sort of. He's evil Spider-Man sort of. Yeah. And then she's got a. She's really missing something about the webs, isn't it?

It really takes an element away of- There's some webs in this movie. Not on here. What's he doing? He's got web and nobody. Yeah. Should be called Madam Web and Mr. Jump. You know?

And it could have been a rom-com. And see, he can stick. Yep. Okay, so Madam Web and Mr. Jump can stick. I think that's too many words. You're right. Just Mr. Jump is fine. Okay, so Madam Web and Mr. Jump and stick. I think that's too many words. You're right. Just Mr. Jump is fine. Anyway, so go on.

That's it. And then she's got to save him even though she doesn't want to. He's out to kill three girls. Three girls. Because they're in the future, in ten years or whatever, are going to come to his house. Dressed as Spider-Man. Yeah, and beat him up.

Assorted Spider-Man. They're going to basically do the start of Watchmen to him. Yeah, absolutely. Oh, oh yeah that's right or the end of most movies that are fun where some a bunch of people surround a guy and beat him up i find it hard to believe the end of the movie death proof yeah but like the three spider women would team up go to this guy's house who haven't moved just kill him throw him off a building all right it doesn't really feel like no character with either these characters in the comics. I mean, there's been so many versions.

And also the actors and the portrayals here, just a very bizarre. I mean, he must have really done something to upset them because it obviously doesn't come to pass. So it's just kind of, how did we get here? Like he must have tormented them for years and then not moved. Like just stayed in his house. Yeah, that's right. Yeah.

Uh, fucking dreadful. What, what is happening here? I mean, in a way that's like, there's a, there's a lot of fascinating elements to this. It's not good. I was entertained for the most part, but a lot of it is baffling. Yeah. I think it's more, it's worse than Morbius, but it's more interesting. Because Morbius is boring.

I think it is more interesting and therefore better than Morbius. But what I'll also say is this. I think that Madam Web is 2024's Joker, unless Joker 2 is also coming out this year, in which case it is 2024's first Joker. Okay. In the sense that is a very light sprinkling of superhero references. Sure. Over what is just a genre film.

Yeah. In this case, it is kind of like lightweight supernatural horror slasher film. Very lightweight. Yeah. I'm not dancing around any spoilers for this. Okay, sure. You've either seen it or you haven't. It's all been spoiled online.

Yeah, that's right. Okay. Because if you're looking for superhero elements to this, Madame Web wears a 70s leather coat. What year is this set? We'll talk about it. And the three spider women who are destined to become spider women, that's only done in Flash Forward,

and they don't do anything spider related or get their powers by the end. Even at the end when they're all living together, they're still not spider people yet. No, that's true, yeah. It's kind of wild. So this is sort of when I say like a supernatural horror slasher, I mean sort of in the style of Final Destination except there's no fate. The idea behind the marketing for this movie is that there's a web

and it connects them all and there's fate. And so fate in a way or magic or destiny connects Madame Web with Sims who's the bad guy. But the other three are just around. Yes. So in a Final Destination movie, generally speaking, it's a group of people, friends or strangers, and they avoid death, you know, a sudden plane crash,

something like that. They miraculously survive and then fate sort of catches up with them individually. And so that is sort of Madame Webb's deal is that she survives this drowning. And her powers are unlocked. Because she's a paramedic. And she got her powers because her mum was bitten by a spider as she died in the Ferruvian jungle.

And Sims got his powers because he stole a spider out of the jungle and he was cursed. And that's why the girls just sort of live in the same area. That's their deal. There's no revelation that they were all in the one place at the one time and some magic thing happened no it's just one of them lives in madame webb's building one of them nearly ran into an ambulance and one of them oh the stepmom got in a car accident that's right yes yes yeah and so she was at the hospital so she sort of met some of them at one point.

But at some point those three are going to get spider powers. How? We don't know. It's not important. It's very much not important. It's not a story worth telling. Apparently it's not. No, that's right.

And all different spider powers too. Yeah, exactly. Because you also could have, this could have just been a spider women team up movie, like an actual one. Sure, yeah, okay. But they went with this. But it also could have been just this, like. Or just do one.

Make one Spider-Women. One has balance. But, I mean, you could also, again, you could also, like, strip out all the Spider stuff. If I were to take this from the setting of it's just a horror movie about this unstoppable weird guy that, you know, they did something in the past. You know, it's Final Destination.

It's I Know What You Did Last Summer. It's any number of these other things where you get some young teen stars and you put them in the movie and they're characters at the start. They had some experience and they're like, oh, glad we got out of this. But then it's, you know, brought about the creation of this murderous monstrosity that follows them around. I'd be like, okay, this is a bit of lightweight fun.

Yeah. And in addition to that, I will add, the idea of a Spider-Man but he's a killer. Yeah. There is something in that. Well, I mean, we've talked in the past about how it would be nice to do. Brightburn, like, for example. You take a concept.

Yeah, superhero movies but put it in and give us a horror version, give us an espionage movie. Give us a rude one. Give us a rude, a sexy rude one. But it also has to be good. Yeah. We should have said that. Every single time we said this in the past 10 years of doing this podcast,

and we've said it a bunch of times, we should have added that caveat. It also has to be good. And in a way, this is our fault because I feel like we didn't say that. You're right. We assumed. I kept saying anything can be good. Yeah. But I should have said, but you actually have to like.

Expense some effort. Yeah. Yeah. We didn't do that, did we? So this is, in a way, this is our fault and we apologize. But I, you know, and again, if you did, there is a, you could pick any number of supervillains in the Marvel universe and go, what about a movie where.

Kraven the hunter yeah or oh no like you could do a movie where some kids piss off electro when he's robbing a bank or something yeah and then he follows the to the city trying to kill him or whatever you know that that could work and this could have worked but it doesn't work for for a bunch of reasons here's some things i like i like how unpleasant cassie webb is oh my god she doesn't work for a bunch of reasons. Here's some things I like. I like how unpleasant Cassie Webb is. Oh, my God. She doesn't like her job. So aloof.

She doesn't like her coworkers. She doesn't like her mom. A kid comes up and she saved this woman's kid. No, she shaved a woman. She shaved a woman. She shaved a woman, and the kid comes up and he goes, thank you for shaving my mom, and gives her a picture, and she's like, what am I supposed to do with this?

And her partner's like, you just take it and then later you throw it away. Like, have you never spoken to anybody ever in your life? What are you talking about? Like, did you not? I mean, I understand your mum was researching spiders in the Amazon before she died. Well, they didn't actually mention that line. They didn't mention it. We see it, but it's not in the movie.

Some things that are in the trailer, but not in the movie. That line. Also, the spider women really doing anything. Yeah. Everything you see in the trailer is pretty much here for the spider women doing anything. But anyway, I'm loving her energy. She hates teenagers.

She hates doing stuff. She hates sitting at home alone, but she hates going out. Yeah, it's interesting because, like, I think what they may have been going for, or this might be an accident, is that the character of Madam Webb is quite removed and aloof and kind of above everything that is happening. But at the start, like you said, she's a paramedic.

She's like a public servant whose job it is to save people, which she does, but she doesn't understand any other element of just being a person. Yeah. And they put it down to, to like her mum disappeared and whatever. But, oh, God. So at the start when it says like association with Marvel or whatever. You know what they should have done?

They should have bought Marvel Knights from like the banner Marvel Knights from Marvel because that would work better. Anytime I see in association with Marvel, I'm like, you're not fooling anybody. No. And they must know that at this point. And the first thing it says is like on the screen is The Peruvian Jungle, 1973. And I...

1973. And I literally... Mopkins. I went out loud. I went, all right. Like that was how this began. How dare you talk out loud in a theatre and interrupt nobody? There were some people there.

Interesting. And anyway, her mother's hunting for a CGI spider for reasons we don't know. And she's 400 months pregnant. She's about to give birth to Cassie Webb. Yeah, sure. But the reason we find out is that Cassie Webb has some kind of disease which is probably a fake Marvel Universe disease.

Maybe it's real. I don't know. She's got ultimate nulliferitis. Yes. She's got Thor's haemorrhage. And basically she needs the spider venom to heal her daughter. Yeah. And she's got extensive notes about the jungle and research

and who she's working with and different spider enzymes and types of whatever. And her daughter has all of that, but she never wrote, I'm doing this because my daughter has an incurable disease and that's why I'm in the jungle when I'm nine months pregnant. So she grows up her whole life just thinking that her mother was just running around with spiders in the jungle. And also, like, we see in flashback her mother going to the doctor.

You don't think that maybe Cassie webb would go to the doctor after her mother died and go what did my mother die of oh okay and i had an incurable disease but i don't have one that's weird that's interesting yeah okay i mean she kind of gets an incurable disease by the end of the movie but also here's the thing when she becomes madam webb the the ezekiel Sims is cursed to be evil Spider-Man because he shoots Mama Web and he leaves the forest with the spider, the special spider with the special sauce. Which he thinks is cool. Yeah, and he is cursed to become evil Spider-Man. So what if Cassie Webb's mum left with the spider?

Would she also get cursed? And then Madam Web would be cursed. I guess so, yeah. Probably worse than what she had. Yeah. God, it opens with her just so much explaining, explaining like I'm here because this is a particular thing and I need this enzyme and whatever.

And then he goes back to camp and he's like, I'm going to rifle through her notes. And then she just runs up with the jar and goes, hey, I found that fucking spider. It was in this jar. You know what we were just talking about? It was the jar on the ground. I don't know.

There's no holes in the top. We'll put holes in the top. We'll put holes in the top. We'll put holes in the top. Whose jar is this, by the way? I transferred to my own jar, but I didn't bring any jars. I didn't think this was going to happen, to be honest. And Ezekiel seems just like, I'm going to shoot everyone now that that spider's turned up. You could just go with her and get out of the jungle.

Anyway, vague powers. There's a moment also where she flashes back and visits her mother and they hug. Yeah. Anyway, vague powers. There's a moment also where she flashes back and visits her mother and they hug. Yeah. What's happening? It doesn't matter. What are the powers here? Because she's got the Nicolas Cage next powers.

Next to knowing, sure. She's got the next knowing. It's something I like. I think it's interesting how they filmed a lot of these scenes multiple times in slightly different ways. I think that is technically a difficult thing to do and they pulled off most of them. Unless you just get them to do three takes and you don't throw anyway.

But you've got to do it separately. Oh, you could do that too. You could do that, yeah. She's got the next to knowing powers. She can maybe send her astral form back in time or something. Sometimes she can split herself into three. Yeah. You're going to make the ultimate Spider-Man choice.

Every Spider-Man has to do this. I'm sorry. These three Spider-Women, they're all going to die. Which one are you going to make the ultimate? Oh, you're going to make the ultimate Spider-Man choice. Every Spider-Man has to do this. I'm sorry. Uh, these three Spider-Women, they're all going to die. Which one are you going to save? Oh, all at once.

Okay, great. Great. That's really good. Oh, okay. All right. I want to talk about this.

Go on. So she loves Mountain Dew and that speaks to with the start. She goes to the, they get a Mountain Dew. There's a big Pepsi sponsorship through this. It sure is. The villain does get killed by a giant Pepsi sign. That's not a joke. Um, okay. No, I big Pepsi sponsorship through this. There sure is. The villain does get killed by a giant Pepsi sign. That's not a joke.

Okay, no, I'll get into this first. So the spider women in this, they're supposed to be like teenagers. She's, you know, protecting. But the actors are 22, 25, and 26. And I feel like it does just look like there's three grown women just all hanging out together. Sure, absolutely. And the police think that, it's set in 2003, we'll get to that,

and the police think that she might have kidnapped these women, but you could just go, like, but there's no, they don't know who Cassie Webb is specifically or seem to know who these girls are specifically. There's just a vague idea and maybe like a grainy security footage of her just with these three women and not holding them at gunpoint, being like, get in the van. Yeah, yeah, she's like, follow me.

They're just running together. Yeah, sure. So she's sort of on the- I mean, that was New York in 2003, man. Running together was a crime. Before Giuliani cleaned it up. Yeah, well, the stop and frisk, you know, and all of that situation. But with, so with that element of there being these three women

that they're hanging out with, I don't think any of them are particularly like given much to do. For one, superheroing. But like Sydney Sweeney's in this, right? And if you see her in anything, whether it be like Euphoria or that recent rom-com apparently, which I didn't see. So if you see it or anything, including the stuff you didn't see. Yeah, I didn't see.

She's in the first season of White Lotus. She's actually like quite, quite funny and manic, and, like, she does some great delivery. And in this, nothing. Just they're all flat and, like, whatever. And it's like if you've got Sydney Sweeney, you don't want to, like, do any of the things that she's capable of, like, doing.

No. Also, Ezekiel Sims is dubbed for most of this it seems i think a lot of people are done yeah yeah and a lot of it's like 80 art off camera it's like yeah you have to help me because i need this spider because of this if i get the spider there's a moment where i think i think it's sydney swinger character was like. You're sounding exhausted. Did you feel that? He's like a spider person. Yep. Very good. Ben Parker's in this.

And Peter Parker's mum. And Peter Parker. And Peter Parker as a baby. Is that Emma Roberts as Mary Parker? Yes, it is. So, yeah, that's how we're tying it all together. We've got Adam Scott as Ben Parker. He's in this.

Yep. Who I like. Yep. He also played Ben in Parks and Rec, so this is confusing to me. Oh, Ben Parks and Rec. Yeah, that's right. Whoa. Yeah, he's fun. I think them, also Dakota Johnson and him as a pairing is... Because they're a paramedic

duo together. Yeah, I think so too. And it's 2003. Now, Dakota Johnson spoke to The Wrap about how this came up to be, and she said after she came on board there were drastic changes, and she said, I can't even tell you what they were. So we had the theory, and we talked about this in previous weeks and so have others, that everybody in this signed on board thinking

it was an MCU movie, and that's how they trick people into these. It happened to Matt Smith with Morbius. That's right. It seems to have happened here with everybody involved. They should do a PSA about this. Yeah, theyius. That's right. It seems to have happened here with everybody involved. They should do a PSA about this. Yeah, they should. That's right. Or some sort of lawsuit advertisement.

Have you or any member of your family ever been tricked into being in a spum? You might be liable for compensation. That's right, you're liable for compensation. We're going to sue you as well. That's right. I didn't misspeak. So it's 2003, right? But I think they've obviously changed this

and they've been very kind of cagey about whether or not that's the case. But there's a few hints towards this like just being all over the place. One being there's a moment where a guy on a train is playing a PSP and in North America that came out in 2005. The Japan version came out in 2004. Whoa. There's a moment where. Maybe his uncle works at Nintendo.

Maybe he does work at Nintendo and he knows somebody at Sony. There's a moment where Dakota Johnson just says, I just want to go home and watch Idol. Maybe she meant The Idol, the TV series with The Weeknd in it. It could have been. It may as well be set now because of some of the technology. There's a moment where one of the three. Wait, when did Idol come out?

Early 2000s around this time? Well, it's fine now. That's totally fine. That's what I'm saying. I think it's just put in. Yeah. But it's also confused. That's what all movies are, James, stuff that's put in.

There's a moment where one of the teenagers pulls out a phone and they go, whoa, a phone. And it's like, hey, it's fucking 2003. Yeah, sure. People, teenagers have phones. That wasn't unusual, was it? I don't think, sure. Teenagers have phones. That wasn't unusual, was it? I don't think so. For somebody to have a phone.

And also, do you remember the moment where she gets a can of Pepsi and she comes to the barbecue? Boy, do I, yeah. If you look at that Pepsi, I think they changed the can to either a 2003 version or a different product placement or something because she's holding a fake can. Right. She's holding a fake can. Right. She's holding it a lot.

I mean, maybe they got, you were so animated, you knocked your microphone over. I did. I think maybe they got the Pepsi sponsorship towards the end of the production and maybe it was just a generic can of something and they added it. But then how would Ezekiel Sims be killed by the pee in the Pepsi sign?

Exactly. There must have been some Pepsi development early on. Maybe they're just like, okay, we're going to drop some blue screen styrofoam on you and you're going to be killed by something. So we'll figure out what it is later. Also, you don't want to be killed by the S for like Spider Woman or Man. No, you're being killed for P for Peter. I guess so.

P for Peter Pepsi. That's right. And there's technology in this where Ezekiel seems he's been driven mad because ever since he stole the spider from the jungle, from the Peruvian jungle. He's been having these dreams every night of these three random women dressed in spider costumes killing him, which I think is a sex thing, quite frankly.

How can he identify them, though? How can he do it? Because he's like, how can I do it with the technology of this year of 2003? And it turns out he can somehow just tell a computer, which will put an exact likeness of what they look like in their Spider-Woman costumes. Ah, it's special NSA technology, James. You're right.

And then you say just de-age it 10 years without the masks, and this is exactly what these three girls look like now in modern day. You don't know what technology was like in 2003. I do because I was there, Mason. I don't know. We all had phones. It wasn't a big deal. And I also think if you look at the soundtrack,

it speaks to, like, the confusion about what was going on because there's the song Miles Away by the Yeah Yeah Yeahs, which is 2003. This is some of them. There was Scandalous from Mystique, which is 2018. What? Meredith Brooks. 2018?

That's a 15-year discrepancy. It's the Stargate radio mix, apparently. There's the song Bitch by Meredith Brooks, and that's from 1997. Well, that's fine, James. Yeah. There's a song Toxic by Britney Spears, which is 2003, but it came out in an album, I think, the previous year. Because remember, they're like, this song's got to be big.

It's a big song. We're all going to dance together. There's boys here, and we're dancing. I Think We're Alone Now is Tiffany from 1987. And the song that it ends on is Dreams by the Cranberries in 1993. And I think that is the biggest indication that this was a movie set in 1993. Might have been, yeah.

I mean, if you look at the fashion, like a lot of the cars in the background, like the technology when it's not nonsense or clearly a reshoot, they've jumped time periods here. And I think it's reflected in the songs they probably paid for yeah and then later changed and that's why the album is just just yeah nonsense but also specifically around 2003 and like 1993 like that's the kind of era and i think you're right in in the sense that if this were just a monster movie stalker slasher thing you wouldn't need him to have the n NSA technology whatever because he'd just be magic but I think that we're like well we've got to justify it somehow

I think he would just and but but also in if if it were that they would have a reason to be connected to him and he would know that via magic or whatever it was but because they are like there needed to be some sort of element where those three are connected to him besides just. Maybe he just bumped into them and went, that's them. Sure. Like that's more believable than this even. Yeah, maybe.

Like he went looking for Cassie Webb and then he saw that they were all together for whatever reason. Yeah, well, maybe, I don't know, maybe. I don't know. Yeah, exactly. I don't know. Yeah. Maybe he met all their parents.

Killed them all. Well, yeah, maybe he made his way back to America and then all their parents touched the spider or something or tried to stop all that. One of them worked for customs and one of them worked for the taxi company or whatever, and they all touched the spider and he's like, stay away from my spider. And then they were all connected by the web of fate and magic or like, stay away from my spider, and then they were all connected

via the web of fate and magic or whatever. Stay away from my spider. Here's my address. That's right. Or he could just not be. He could move house, couldn't he? He could have moved house. That's what I'm saying.

They would have just not been able to find him when they went on their future murder spree. Yep. Everything's over-explained. There's a moment where Cassie gets poisoned and she's like, hey, how are you poisoning me? It's like, we know we can do poison. We saw him do it earlier and now he's doing it again.

There's a moment where Ben Parker calls Cassie when she's doing a big depression at home and he's like, hey, Cassie. Do you mean she's on the toilet? Yeah. Okay. He goes, hey, Cassie, it's me again, Ben. Anyways, this is why I'm calling, et cetera. And it's like you don't trust the audience to, like,

recognise the one person she's friends with. Because she, I mean, Cassie, Madam Web, has an arc, which is that she, I guess the idea of why she's such a weird misanthrope is because she doesn't trust anybody because her mum went to the Amazon to research spiders before she died. And while she was pregnant and Cassie's like, well, I guess she didn't care

about me at all and then over the course of the movie she learns that the reason why that was is because she was looking for a cure for the disease that madam webb had yeah but then she's like then then when we see that when she goes back in time and hugs her mom she goes oh you were in the amazon to look for a cure for me and you loved me and that's why you did it. It's like we saw it. You didn't have to. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah, you could just have a look and go, oh. You could even have her go, oh.

I get it now and if you, the audience, are smart, you'll also get it. But if you don't, Screen Rant will have an article about it. They'll say, Madam Web Ending Explained. We'll have an article about it. They'll say, Madam Web Ending Explained. Cassie was happy because she realised that her mother was trying to save her with a spider. Article to recommend at the bottom, The Dark Knight Rises Ending Explained. Oh, you better believe it.

That's right. 2024. It's a new article. So there's a Mary Parker baby shower and it's very bizarre. Yeah. And even though there's a lot of other people there, it only seems to be her and Cassie interacting. Yeah.

Everyone else is just on the fringes but just being like, ooh. Exactly. And then Mary Parker's like, Cassie, what was your mother like? You don't know? She does. Yeah, yeah. Well, exactly. You don't do some research.

Because you work with, you know Ben Parker because he's your brother or whatever. Did Ben not clue you in and go, hey, when you're doing the party games, don't mention motherhood to her? I mean, I don't know why you've invited her, honestly. Yeah. Yeah, why would he even? Yeah.

But then the questions keep coming. They do, don't they? At Adam Webb, yeah. Yeah. And sometimes in different time periods because she's got the freaky time powers. CPR comes up a lot. This is how you do CPR.

If I ever die, here's CPR. That's right. You can do CPR on me. Because you haven't done anything during this movie besides dance on a table and run around. Yeah. So I think you're going to need a hero moment, and I'm thinking it could be CPR.

So what I'll do is I'll engineer a situation in which my heart stops and you can do CPR on me. Oh, you don't know? I'll do is I'll engineer a situation in which my heart stops and you can do CPR on me. I'll teach you CPR. I guess I wanted to ask you about the final showdown. Okay, sure. Because earlier on there's a big fire at the explosion factory. That's right.

And they have to go back to the explosion factory at the end for a big showdown for some reason. We'll call an emergency paramedic helicopter and we'll ask them to park on the top of the explosion factory. And, I mean, sure, technically some of them will be like, wasn't there just a huge explosion at that explosion factory? Yeah. That we were there? Wasn't there an ambulance driver killed at the explosion factory?

Yeah, I don't think we should go to the explosion factory. It's quite volatile. I don't think we should land on the explosion factory. Also, there's a big sign we probably can't land near because there's a big Pepsi-Cola sign. Because of all the explosions, the building is probably not structurally sound. I bet

on our helicopter map at the headquarters there's a big X over it. Don't. And the X is just don't. Just don't. But anyway, they're escaping from evil Spider-Man and they say, okay, we're going to have to escape. We're going to go into the fireworks explosion building and we'll get a helicopter from there. And they're escaping from evil Spider-Man and they say, okay, we're going to have to escape. We're going to go into the fireworks explosion building

and we'll get a helicopter from there. And they're like, okay, here's some flares. Yep. Just put them in all the boxes. That's great. Of fireworks. Yeah. When are they going to go off?

Doesn't matter. Whose business is this? Doesn't matter. Because sometimes they put a flare in there and it just sizzles for ages and sometimes they put a flare in there and it just blows up immediately. Yeah, man. You're giving those to kids, are you? I mean, she knows.

She can see the future. Oh, that's true. She can see the future. She can see the future. Sometimes, depending, and sometimes she can control it, sometimes she can't. Yeah. So just, oh, God.

So we also get a very, well, it's interesting because I didn't think they were going to do it, but Madam Web becomes full Madam Web by the end. And by that I mean she's in a wheelchair and blind. She earns her blindness and paralysis. By taking a firework to the face underwater. I don't know where the paralysis came in. Did something fall on her?

I don't know. I might have just missed it. No, I don't know. Because when she was in the wheelchair at the end, I went, oh, is this like a permanent thing? Did this happen earlier? Big Birds of Prey energy. The Birds of Prey TV series. Yes, the TV series.

That's exactly what I thought. And they're all living in a loft together and looking at a big themed window, spider-themed window. And it was like, no matter what happens in the future, we're going to be together and we're going to be the Birds of Prey. Oh, I got the line. I actually wrote it down. I took out my phone.

Whatever the future holds, we'll be ready. And the thing about the future is it hasn't happened yet. And it won't. This is it. This is over. This is finished forever. I love that she comes in and she's wearing the Madam Web. The big Oakleys.

Oakleys and whatever. And she's like, I bought. And they're like, oh, you bought chicken for dinner. I knew that. Oh, how was your thing? I that that would get real annoying and i really wanted to drill home that like you're gonna tell me to dial it back because you find it annoying i won't like we get it she's now i've finally found a personality of this and i hate everything so i'm gonna go with it she could see the future like we get it we absolutely get. And they're all suited up at the end.

But she has astral projection. Is Dr. Strange Valis? That happens to her earlier. She gets punched out of her body. Yeah. Dr. Strange style. Yes. Is that a Madam Web thing?

Sure. I mean, I'm just like, is this a specific thing that I'm supposed to, like, recognize and know? No, I guess. But they're like, we've got to find a way to get her in missions. If we ever do another one of these, which we won't. She needs to be there to be able to do missions. So she's got astral projection powers. It's fine.

Anyway, also there's the birth of Peter Parker. And they say, well, Uncle Ben, he's going to love being an uncle. Because when you're an uncle, there's no responsibility. You get all the fun stuff. Yes. And I hope he doesn't get shot in Queens, a thing that is alluded to much earlier in the movie. Also, the responsibility line, I can't even remember who says it,

but it's when you take on responsibility, great power will come. That might have been that guy in the cave. It was the guy in the cave. Yeah, cool. And I guess that's true. So true. Just what are they doing? I'm going to say best movie ever because i had a wild time i i'm not gonna say that i don't see this don't pay money for it no don't say you shouldn't encourage watch it on streaming this kind of behavior yeah what you should do wait for it wait till it's on streaming

and get some friends together and watch it like that yeah i think what do you think sony's like what did they think would happen i don't know. At what point did they know this was this movie, you know? That's a great question. Like they tried to fix it, obviously, but. Yeah, maybe. But it's not, it's. Do you think they would, because it doesn't feel like at any point, like the action set piece at the end doesn't feel like, that feels like that was always the ending.

It doesn't feel like, because it's too big, even for a lower budget movie. Like for a lower budget movie, I think it's too big. There's big explosions, yeah. So it doesn't feel like at any point they were like, okay, at the ending. See, at the end I thought initially because all the gals fall off the roof and they're all precariously hanging on for dear life and it looks like they're all going to fall and die.

And as you said, Madame Web has to do which one she's going to save. And then she's like, oh, actually, I'm going to split into a bunch of different astral projections and I'm going to save them that way. And I thought that's the moment where they would become spider women or whatever. Yes. She'd be like, well, I don't have the powers, but you can do it like Buffy or any of the other ones. They're already in there and they manifest. Yes, exactly. Something you hinted at earlier. And then they would beat him up and then he'd be like, i don't have the powers but you can have that you know do it like buffy or you know the other ones where they're already in there and they manifest yes exactly and then that would beat

him up and then and then he'd be like oh no i did this you know what i mean yeah he'd be like i caused the creation of these spider women and now they've killed me because i tried to kill them so actually you know whatever but they don't they just she she she splits into the three beings and then she sort of helps them up slightly yeah Yeah. And then she just stops doing that. You all right? Yeah. Let's go. And that also feels like they worked backwards.

They went, okay, how could, in the script, they went, how could she save them all? What if she splits into three? Yeah. You know, like a spider would. Oh, yeah. Like when you cut a spider into three, it goes into three separate spiders. And they're like, well, that would be absolutely out of nowhere, wouldn't it?

And so they're like, well, what if the guy in the cave says, yeah, you could be anywhere at once? You could be in multiple places at once because of spiders. You know how spiders can do that? Yeah. You know how? Yeah. A spider could be in a different place than another spider.

Exactly. Yeah. But their web connects them all. Also, a few people pointed this out, but this is on Reddit, from LLLLLI0, who said, at the end of the film, Madame Web starts looking in the girl's future, and there's this scene where the camera pans up to a building and it's the exact same scene from Spider-Man 2

where Toby is running and jumps from building to building. Oh, it's like a sort of pan up shot. Yeah. Is this Sony reusing footage or what? Yeah. Must be, yeah. Almost certainly. It could be a fun Easter egg, I guess.

Well, I mean, it's period appropriate, isn't it? 2003, baby. Yep. Also, like, it's obviously not said in any of the Spider-Man universes because with the killer Spider-Man running around. Nobody goes, that's Spider-Man. That's Spider-Man. Oh, wait, he's got a knife.

Yeah. And no webs. No webs. Oh, that's Mr. Jumps. Look out. Yeah, if it was, yeah, you're absolutely right. It's not said anywhere. Because they're all, if any of those kids were native New Yorkers,

when they saw a guy crawling on the roof, they'd be like, that's a crawly man. Yeah. They'd go, they'd call him ceiling guy. I think it would be funny if Spider-Man was called ceiling guy by everybody because you can't control it. No, you really can't. Unless you hold a press conference and go just so you know it's Spider-Man.

Day one, yeah. If you were crawling on the ceiling, people would call you ceiling guy and you'd be that forever. Even if you had made a concerted effort to walk on the ground, it would still be like ceiling guys on the ground now. It's like if your mum ran up to the school bus on the first day of high school because you forgot your lunch and she gave you lunch, you'd be mummy lunchbox man.

You'd be mummy lunchbox man. For the rest of your life. That's right. Yeah. Anyway, we've got some reviews here. This one's from Adam who says, Madam Webb, predictably terrible, but the best Spum movie yet. The exchange between Anya and Maddie about friction, gravity,

and science will go down as one of the worst exchanges in comic book movie history. The turd in the wind universe marches on. I don't even remember what he's, what's that friction gravity scene? I don't know that. I think there might be a scene because Madam Webb drives them. She she steals a taxi oh yeah and she drives them all there's a lot of stuff a lot of cars she eats a lot of people with cars as well yeah uh mostly evil spider-man um but then they go into the forest and i think the girls are sitting by a fire and

they're talking about how how he how he crawls up the walls or something. That's fun. Yeah. Also, the girls decide to go to a diner. Madam Webb leaves to do some stuff. She's doing a lot of, I've got to go, stay here, I've got to go. I've got to go. I've got to sort some stuff out. And the girls all leave to go to a diner and they leave their fire going. And I'm like, no, you shouldn't do that. Don't do that.

Don't do that. Yeah, yeah. That causes forest fires. Don't do that. Yeah. Why does she pry the plates off the taxi? I think she could have just driven around and you've never done a crime james i think it's more obvious especially in 2003 because you'd have to bring in every taxi that you see and nobody's actively looking for a taxi really so like it's more if you didn't have plates

you'd be more likely to get pulled over you'd'd think. Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah. Okay. Anyway, Benson Maid says, we're two months into 2024 and you've only reviewed three movies, Beekeeper, Argyle, Matt and Webb. I rank them number one, Bee, number two, Webb, number three, Argyle. Would you? Argyle is technically a better movie, I would say,

because there's clear direction and there's a point and action sequences and characters and stuff. But I don't know whether I had more fun in Argyle than this. I think there are elements to Argyle. I think there's a couple of action sequences that are very good. Yeah, but I think a lot of that's a real drag. Yeah. I think this is somehow.

And this didn't drag, did it, Mason? No, this is somehow less of a drag. I don't know what happened. I think for me it's more like this is fascinating than a good movie. Yeah, absolutely. Like how did this get – what are we doing this now for? I wish you could have a podcast called What Are We Doing This Now For? Vinton says, I think Spum believes that making movies more comic book-y

means everyone's saying everything they're doing all the – means everyone's saying everything that they are doing all the time and no web spider-man is boring to watch anyways i can't believe this movie was made there is a moment where sims is trying to uh he's pursuing the gals they're in times square or whatever it is this is the villain ezekiel sims that's correct yeah not the sims they're not being pursued by a box copy of the sims sure which would have been big in 2003 i assume clearly great and he's on top of a car and he just, he does a leap, but it cuts instantly because it's like, where are you going to go? You are not leaping far enough to get onto any of those buildings.

And you can't web. You can't web, so. Why couldn't he have webs? Why couldn't he? Or a rope or a grappling hook. Sure. The other guys have grappling hooks in the jungle, don't they? And vines and shit.

Oh, yeah, they do, don't they? Yeah, man. Yeah, give them a hook on a chain or whatever. Yep, give them a grappling hook. Sure. The other guys have grappling hooks in the jungle, don't they, and vines and shit? Oh, yeah, they do, don't they? Yeah, man. Yeah, give them a hook on a chain or whatever. Yep, give them a hook on a chain. And Sham says, Madam, where was the exact wet fart you sort of expected to be? Zero action and dialogue, so funny I almost couldn't stop laughing. Vibe of the crowd also wasn't great.

Really felt like nobody wanted to be there. How busy was yours? I reckon there was maybe eight people in the cinema? Yeah, I'd about the same. And I reckon I booked online about 20 minutes before it started and there was nobody in the cinema. Oh, you would have been in for a treat. Yeah, but then when I got there, like, the old people were all in.

So there was probably eight people in total, including me. I was the only one by myself. Some stuff got laughs in the theatre. I remember thinking that's actually kind of a funny line and that's not bad. Sure. Look, I think – Were you doing zingers?

Is that how that happened? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's right. That's typical of you. I love that. More like Mr. Jumps, I said, and everybody laughed. Woo! Woo!

I don't know. I think Dakota Johnson's in this is pretty fun. I think – Yeah. It's worth a free viewing. So when it's free – Yeah. She's very –

I say funny. That's not right. It's worth a free viewing. So when it's free. Yeah. She's very, I say funny. That's not right. It's not the right word. There is a line where she goes to the barbecue after she's drowned and she's like, you know, they say after something cardiac arrest, but now I'm fine. The delivery was very funny. I couldn't tell you what it was.

I find her delivery in general just so, like her cadence is so weird. And the look. And like even her as a person, like it's the same. Yeah, yeah. That's what I find really amusing. She was in Fifty Shades of Grey, right? Yeah, she was. Okay.

She was Dorian Grey or whatever. Nice. Yeah, cool. All right, should we move it along? Let's move it along. What a great movie. Good start to the year. Two bad movies out of the gate.

Oh, incredible. So Dune 2 is in two weeks. Yeah, we got that. What are we going to do in the meantime? God, I don't know. Who knows, Mason? We'll have to figure it out. Great.

I love that. What are we going to talk about next, though? What segment? Oh, it's what we're reading. Yep. What are we going to read? Here we go. I'm doing the thing.

What are we reading today? What have you been doing, bro? I finished watching Mr and Mrs Smith. And? I think it's very good. I agree. I think it's a good show. Good fun, solid, looks stylish. I enjoy very much how the season, it's a sort of,

I think it maybe would have worked better week to week. Yeah. Because you've got. There's some intrigue. There is some intrigue and you've got. Mystery characters. I mean, I guess I could have, you know, exhibited some discipline and actually watched one episode a week.

For once in your bloody life. But why would I? They were compelling and I'm like, I'm going to keep watching. You were compelled. But I like how every episode was like a mission of the week. Yes. But it was also like a stage of the relationship. Yes, exactly.

So there's an episode. And sometimes there'd be a huge time jump. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's an episode, for example, where they, where Ron Perlman's the guest star. Yeah. And they have to, they go to Europe and they have to safeguard him because people are trying to kill him. Beautiful Europe.

Beautiful Europe. But I liked how also that episode is about like that stage of a relationship where you're like, would we be good parents? Let's get a dog. Yes. And Perlman is the dog because he's like, they've got to force him to take his pills. And he was a dog man in Beauty and the Beast or whatever.

That's right, yeah. And so he's like, I don't want to take my pills. I don't want to take my pills. I want a cigarette. I pee myself. And he's like, well, give you a cigarette when you take your pill. And then he takes his pill. Give you a cigarette when you pee yourself.

We don't have any cigarettes. I thought every, like I have any cigarettes I thought it was I thought every like I enjoy like I thought structurally the whole season was very good their dynamic is terrific

I agree and just like the flaws that like they highlight for both the characters the action's really fun and like you're like oh people are getting hurt

it seems like people are really getting hurt that's great that's what we love not that this is relevant but do you think it's actually set in the Mr. and Mrs. Smith

2005 universe could it be do you think there's actually set in the Mr and Mrs Smith 2005 universe? Could it be? Do you think there's going to be a pit of Jolie? I mean, I doubt it because that's not a good situation. They're very much on the outs for a bunch of reasons. Yeah, but I don't know. I like that they jump straight into the fact that they're just a couple and they know they're spies.

It wasn't this kind of like, when are they going to find out the other one's a spy or whatever? Like there is that distrust between them, but it's still, you know. Yeah. It's just a very interesting and well plotted out show. I hope there's a second season. Me too. Because it does end on a cliffhanger.

It certainly does. But yeah, also like they meet some other Smiths in this and I think that's a really interesting dynamic. And who are they? Is one of them? One of them's the guy from Narcos. The other one is Parker Posey. Yeah.

You've got to – It's one of those. There's a Parker Posey but there's also a Posey Parker who's a different figure. Oh, that's right. Yeah, an awful woman. An awful woman. Yeah, she's just awful.

That's right. Yeah, but it's Parker Posey. And yeah, great guest stars. Yeah. Paul Dano. Every week there's somebody showing up. Yeah, right. You're like, oh, really? Oh, really? Sharon Hawkins. Oh,, great guest stars. Paul Dano. Every week there's somebody showing up. Yeah, right. You're like, oh, really?

Oh, really? Sharon Horgan's in this. Oh, really? Must be nice. Oh, The Rocketeer was in it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And that's fun.

There's some great looks. Because you asked me who that guy was going to be. I'm like, I shan't be spoiled. Yeah. But there's some great fashion stuff in this as well. Oh, great. Which I'm absolutely loving. Absolutely loving.

Yeah, just a delightful show. That's right. And you've been watching something also? I've been watching Master of the Universe while I finished it. Revolution, which is the sequel series to the last Kevin Smith series. Which was Revelation. Yes. So it's a shorter series and they kind of – it's more He-Man focused

of people like there's not enough He-Man in it, which I can also understand. But this is, yeah, more He-Man centric and Hordak shows up. Hordak? I'm mixing – I'm bringing technology into He-Man centric and Hordak shows up and he's like, I'm mixing, I'm bringing technology into He-Man's universe and whatever. I really like it. I think it's like a really good interpretation

and it does also feel like a sequel to the original because you see, again, weird characters and vehicles show up and whatever and the universe also moves forward so like people figured out who He-Man is and now it's just known, you know, and it's stuff like that. It doesn't go back to the status quo. It's a universe that is constantly like evolving. Does he ever then transform back into Prince Adam or is there no point? Yeah, he'll still do it.

He'll do it. Oh, okay. Every now and then, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Battle cat. I guess it must be tiring to be He-Man all the time. No, he loves it.

Okay. He loves it too. Sure. So yeah, if you – Maybe if you want to get through a narrow doorway or something. Sure. Go transform back into Prince Adam. If you like the first season, this is, I think, a good continuation.

Okay. And if you watched it but didn't like it, I think there's things in this which is more original Hey Man, which I think you could get on board with. Sounds like there's some for everyone. But I like the first series though. I do also. And I like the voice cast. It's a great voice cast.

Mark Hamill is skiddily tall. That's true. And others. Yes. William Shatner's in it. I do also. And I like the voice cast. It's a great voice cast. Mark Hamill is skiddily tall. That's true. And others. Yes. William Shatner's in it. Oh. Yes. That's fun. As himself? Yes. How did I even get here? Weird vehicles. What else have I been reading? I don't know what you've been into.

I got the deluxe hardcover edition of Crisis on Infinite Earths. Oh my god. Why would you do it? I love it. I don't know. I can't get enough of that series. Could I have it? You don't want it. You'd throw it away.

This is the original, yeah? Yes. Great. Can I see it? I don't have it here. Just to get my greasy hands on it. I guess. I'll bring it over next week.

Yeah, cool. Thanks. I'm going to grease it up. All right. Should we move it along? Time for letters. Time for letters. Time for letters.

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What's that? This week on Caravan of Garbage, we're finally doing the last airbender, Caravan of Garbage, which was recorded in 2020. Okay. Or something like that. Sure. What was really scary about bringing this to the modern day, Mason, was that I thought I'd lost the file and I thought I was going to have

to watch it again and then re-record the whole thing. Then I'd have to watch it again. Then you'd have to watch it again too and I'd have to resurrect. So I had to basically find an old laptop, which was two laptops deep, because you know I just make a pile of old laptops, and crack that open and one of the hard drives is corrupted, so I had to fix it and manage to get it working for long enough to get the original file off.

And now it's happening this week. So there you go. It's done. Well, it's happening. Ben and Lawrence are currently editing it. Anyway, if you do want to reach the show, you can hashtag WeeklyPlanetPod on Twitter. That's hashtag WeeklyPlan on Twitter. That's hashtag Weekly Planet Pod.

That's right. Or send a Gmail to weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. Is that right? I think so. Am I saying that correctly? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So what do we got? Here's an email from I think I'm going to pronounce it Skyler.

Skyler. Who emails in and said, Madam Webb made my girlfriend sick. My girlfriend and I decided to watch Madam Webb on Valentine's Day. Congratulations. Mainly because we wanted to make fun of it because there's no way it wasn't going to be terrible, but we were blown away by the swinging camera angles and constant mini flashbacks

that were so nauseating, causing my girlfriend to get motion sickness so we had to leave. However, we left right when stuff started happening in the third act. Was it good? Should I go back and watch it or wait for a clip to come out on YouTube? The second thing. Don't. Don't.

The second thing. Don't pay more money. That didn't factor into my viewing at all, but it's interesting to know that some people are going to get motion sickness from this movie. From a movie that's already bad. It is interesting. No, absolutely.

If you skipped our review of this to get to the letters for some reason, yeah, just wait until it's free. Or stuff will come out on YouTube. Stuff is already coming out on YouTube, I'm pretty sure. You get it also. Like you got that far, you get it. You get it, yeah, exactly, yeah. If you were like, oh, the third act is going to have an incredible,

it's going to be something we've never seen in a superhero movie before, no. Yeah, that's fun. It is fun. It's from Ed Day, hashtag weeklyplanetpod. What if the twist of the new Jurassic Park slash world is that it's a new park and everything is fine, everyone has a good time, get a novelty pencil case from the shop, that sort of thing. I love that.

I would love a Jurassic Park experience like that, though. If Jurassic Park was real, that's how I would want it to go. Like I'm not running and getting picked up by a pterodon. Do you think they would do – A pterodon. Do you think they would – if you paid extra, they would do like a sequence where it seems things are going out of hand? Oh, yeah.

What if they do that for the new movie? They're like, okay, sure, remember the old Jurassic Parks and every time we built a Jurassic Park there was a disaster. Yes disaster like the gremlins ride at movie world yes exactly like you think it's a you're watching a movie but it's actually the gremlins have got loose yeah and i what if they were like as a pr thing in the movies they're like well you know oh what if you pay a hundred dollars you get to be in the scene where everything goes wrong you know just imagine imagine being back there or whatever and then everything does go wrong. I'd be up for that. That's cool.

But I'd also just rather a good movie where there's not a Jurassic Park, where all the dinosaurs are doing a Mad Max. Well, I mean, we're at Jurassic World now. Exactly. We're supposed to be there. We're supposed to be in the Jurassic World. Yeah. What do you got, Mason?

This is from Alistair. Alistair? Letterboxd-related question for the boys. Here we go. Let's ask because we're the boys. That's true. I like the show. Hello, little sweet men from the podcast.

We're regular-sized. I don't know if you've seen these interviews Letterboxd does on various red carpets where they ask actors, filmmakers, anyone what their top four movies of all time are. If you two were ever in that situation, what top four movies would you choose and why? We don't have to choose four. I've done my head.

I mean, if I were in that situation, I would do it in advance. Oh, totally. If there was ever a chance I'd be on a red carpet for anything, I would watch red carpet stuff and I would do extensive research on who's going to show up and be like, what are they going to ask? Eat this hot sauce. Yeah, exactly. That's right.

I would test run all the hot sauces. Also, if I was ever in the Criterion closet, I would go through the Criterion list days in advance and I would pick out a bunch. And then what if you can't find them in the day? I cry. I'm presumably the alphabetical. Yeah, I cry.

What if they're random? They might be by filmmaker alphabetical. Oh, my God. So I'd have to remember them, but I'd also have to remember the filmmaker's name. I hate that. Yeah, I hate that also. They got all the Marvel movies in there?

Yeah. Then I'd just pick those. There's a Marvel section, yeah. Yeah, yeah, good. I hate that. Yeah, I hate that also. They've got all the Marvel movies in there? Yeah. Then I'd just pick those. There's a Marvel section, yeah. Yeah, yeah, good. It's towards the bottom. Yeah. For me, Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid is up there for me. The movie Sunshine, Danny Boyle, that's one of my favourite movies.

There's two. What have you got? I would do Stoderberg Oceans 11, I think. That's a good movie. I think that's a good movie. And then that's three more times. But not the sequels? No.

Not the three sequels? No. Not the three sequels? No. Oh, my God, there are three sequels, aren't they? You could. And there's a prequel on the way maybe. I want to say Ryan Gosling, but that can't be right again, can it? Ooh. That can't be right again.

It can't be right again. Give it a quick googs. Yeah, give it a quick googs. Yeah, I'd have to do extensive research. I'm amazed that people can. And it also becomes this sort of, I mean mean i guess it's only for a day if somebody comes up with four yeah kind of like non-auteur like if somebody comes up with two it is right if somebody comes up with like two like four really obscure art house movies everybody's like boo those can't be your real favourite movies, boo.

Yeah, exactly. Where's Batman or whatever. Where's Batman 89? Exactly. And if somebody's like, oh, I love, well, actually I love Toy Story and I love Toy Story 2 and I love Moana and I love whatever, people are like, boo. I like Moana.

Yeah. It's a good movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody's like, boo, think of a, where's Batman? Any of them yeah where's David Lynch Dune for some reason what is your favourite

comic book movie of all time Iron Man 1 it's a good movie it is a good movie I'm happy to I would even say like

because people would say The Dark Knight but he'd let his performance alone that is a good movie you might say the movie Joker yeah

god is it Iron Man I mean, is that because that's a pure comic book movie? Yeah, and because they tried the hardest, I think, as well. You don't think they tried in The Dark Knight? Oh, I would include that as well. Look, I think they're pretty close to Tide.

Okay. But I don't love that version of Batman, ultimately. No, I hear what you're saying. What about Superman 2? That's a good one. Watchmen? Logan? Spider a good one. Watchmen? Logan? Spider-Man 2? Watchmen? This is the list.

Wow. Ant-Man? Yeah. Ant-Man? You know what? He's really good. What if I was like- Ant-Man? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What if I was like, oh, I love the movie, I love Bicycle Thieves and I love Le Samurai and I love Before Sunrise, but I also love Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania. What if that was my four? This is a newer one, but The Suicide Squad is really great. I feel like that's similar to Iron Man in the sense that, like, you've nailed every element of this. Because they add to it by necessity. Yeah, and even though I made no money, and the comic book element.

Here's one. Look, I think Batman Begins. I don't know if it's better than The Dark Knight, but Batman Begins is, like, it's a phenomenal movie. Yeah. And the start of a new universe and there was so much like potential of which direction this could go. And then it's just all crap after that, you know?

Yeah. I mean, Winter Soldier's good. Is that up there? X-Men, Days of Future Past, The Rogue Cut. Oh, yeah. Kick-Ass. These are all good movies. I don't know.

Maybe it is Iron Man. Interesting. All right, Mason. Got this one from Ethan who says, hashtag weekly planet pod. So there's an article at comicbookmovie.com where they talked about there's going to be a G.I. Joe Transformers crossover. Oh, that's right. And Ethan says, does this mean that Rise of the Beast was ineligible for last year's

The Game is On Award? What are the point after covering other movies in the franchises? Does that mean Snake Eyes will finally have to be covered? Okay, so I went to this article and I'm like, what are they actually saying about the G.I. Joe Transformers crossover that was hinted at lovingly? And so they spoke to Lorenzo Di Bonaventura, who's also talking about Madam Web at the moment,

but he also produced the Transformers movie, some of them, and asked about the G.I. Joe crossover. He said, the honest truth is I don't know. I know we are going to deliver on the promise we made. So he didn't say we're going to make it. He said, I don't know but I know we're going to deliver on the promise we made. And I don't think they are necessarily going to deliver on it.

Absolutely. Yeah. I think that kind of landed with a wet thud, that whole situation. And that movie didn't do as well as they probably wanted it to do. That's true. Outside of merch. But if a movie does end up getting a sequel, a Game is On movie, does that invalidate it?

No, I don't think so. Okay, great. Yeah. Because the Madam Web is obviously up there this year. Oh, boy. We've got two already. Yeah. The two movies that we've gone to the cinemas and reviewed specifically

have both the gamers on this. That's so true. Anything else? Let's find one more. All righty then. I'm Mace Ventura. All righty. Hello.

Oh, okay. This is from Jeremiah. Jeremiah was an email. Email guy. Email doing an email. What's his deal? Can you know? A letter about bad movies by good directors.

Because we were talking earlier about these guys who wrote a bunch of bad movies, but they can't be that bad. I love good movies. Right? Yeah. Hey, boys, first off, thank you so much for the years of laughs. I found the show during lockdown and it quickly became the soundtrack to Walks With My Dog Down Deserted Roads, filling out job applications, driving to job interviews,

and eventually many breakdowns at my new job at a mental health clinic. It's just giggling breakdowns. I'm loving giggling breakdowns. My question is, what are some of your least favorite movies by directors who you otherwise think are great at what they do? I was recently watching every Coen Brothers movie and was stunned how bad The Lady Killers was. Oh, The Lady Killers.

I remember that. Tom Hanks. Yeah. It's a remake, I think. Yeah, it is. Not just by the standards of a pair who have directed six or seven certifiable modern classics, but in general, are there any movies that left you in a similar headspace

of what the hell are you trying to pull off here, man? Ocean's Twelve. That's a great point. Yeah. The original Lady Killers had Alec Guinness. Oh, yeah. So Danny Boyle did a hypnosis movie. Was that recently?

Yeah, like called Trance or Hypnotic or something like that. And it's got a guy, Ben Aff, is Ben Affleck in it? No, it's a different one. Oh, okay, right. This is a James McAvoy one. There's a Ben Affleck movie where they're like, that guy's a hypnotic. You've got to watch out, he's going to do a hypnotic on you.

You know? It's not that one, but I hear what you're saying. Yeah. So that's not a good movie, I would say. What about you? What's something else? Let me think. Who's a great director? I think Ridley Scott is a great director, but

then he made that Robin Hood movie. And I know people have said he hasn't made anything good recently, but I think he has. If you look at, like, apparently Gladiator 2 is really good. Have I seen it? Have you seen Gladiator 2? Yeah, it's pretty good. I saw it way in advance.

He sent me an advanced copy. Yeah, it's pretty good. Yeah. Because he did Yeah, it's pretty good. I saw it way in advance. And? He sent me an advance copy. Yeah, it's pretty good. Yeah. Because he did The Martian and he did, what else did he do that was good recently? Oh, he did The Last Duel. He did that. Oh, I hate Looper. You do hate Looper.

Yeah. But you love The Last Jedi. Yes. Yes. Yes, James. Yes? Yes. That's interesting that you hate Looper.

A good movie. I don't think it is. No? How about this? Yes. I think The Force Awakens is pretty good for what it's supposed to be. Sure. I'm not saying great.

But then Rise of Skywalker was absolutely fucking atrocious. That's the same director. And those are two movies. Yeah. What about if you looked at like, you know, Favreau made Iron Man, your favorite movie. I do. What are some Favreau movies?

Like you hated The Lion King. I did. Yeah, that's right. That would be a good one. That is slop. I was going to say like Cowboys and Aliens, but there's some elements of fun to Cowboys and Aliens. That's true.

From memory. That's a good question though. I don't love a lot of stuff Kubrick. Anything he's done really. Anything? I don't know. I don't know if I do. What about Sexy Eyes Wide Shut?

No, I don't like it. No? What else do you not like of his? I don't really like The Sh really. Anything? I don't know. I don't know if I do. What about Sexy Eyes Wide Shut? No, I don't like it. No? What else do you not like of his? I don't really like The Shining. No? No, I don't like it. I don't like it. Let's go through his.

All right, let's do it now. Okay. I don't really like 2001 A Space Odyssey. I like that. Okay. Do you like? I do like Full Metal Jacket. Yep.

Okay. What about Lolita? I have not seen it. I have not seen it either. I don't want to rent that. I mean, I know it's not like, you know, there's. Exactly. I like Barry Lyndon and I like Full Metal Jacket.

I haven't seen Barry Lyndon. But pretty much everything else is a miss for me. Oh, Doctor Strangelove. Okay. Spartacus I saw years ago. I couldn't tell you anything about it. You're right. What about AI Artificial Intelligence but the Steven Spielberg one? I'll hate it. I like it. Because that was supposed to. I couldn't tell you anything about it. You're right. What about AI, artificial intelligence, but the Steven Spielberg one?

I'll hate it. I like it. Because that was supposed to be Cooper. It's so twee. It's twee. Yeah. It's Barry Lyndon about. It's rogue.

That's right. Cool, man. Oh, Ryan O'Neill. Cool. Have I seen Doctor Strange enough? You've seen parodies of Doctor Strange. Yeah, I've seen it on The Simpsons. Have you seen Paths of Glow? Paths of Glow? No. Paths of Gl Simpsons. I've seen Paths of Glory.

Paths of Glory. No. Paths of Glory. No. I've seen Balls of Fury. And? Goodness gracious. Yeah.

Great Balls of Fury. That's exactly right. Should we? Let's wrap it up. Yeah, man. Night of Weburary. We did it. It's come to an end.

Yep. Forever. Yeah. Unless we want to keep it rolling. We could watch it again. We'll probably end up doing a commentary on it. Great. Yeah.

And then we'll eventually do the Spam Caravan of Garbage. We could do it next week. We could just do it in the cinema. Yeah, we could. Because it's going to be second week of MatterWeb, so we could just go in there and there'll be nobody else. We'll bring in the recording equipment. We'll pay for extra seats.

That's bold of you to assume that it's still going to be playing. Folks, thank you so much for listening. We absolutely appreciate it. Thank you for telling your friends about the podcast because that is how we get new listeners. It's still going to be playing. Folks, thank you so much for listening. We absolutely appreciate it. Thank you for telling your friends about the podcast because that is how we get new listeners. It's true. And thank you for leaving a five-star review on your podcatcher of choice. You can just do it in-app, and if you do so,

James will read out your review. Guaranteed. Even if we stop doing the podcast, James is going to have to keep doing reviews. Yep, that's right. This one's from Jin Harbor who says, five stars, thanks. Thanks. Thanks for all the laughs ever since I hate clicked one of your red circle arrows pointing videos in 2015.

I'm surprised to find two funny gentlemen with fun. I got a lot of people that way, Mason, with fun casual banter. My only complaint is James is a coward for changing my favorite part of the podcast intro song. No, I didn't. No, I didn't. That's very interesting. This one's from Setma who says, amazing 100% of the time, 80% of the time.

Comic, come for the red hot comic book movie news straight into your butthole and stay for the da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na- what you mean. I don't know what you mean. Folks, if you want to get in contact with us. If you want to get in? You want to get in? You've got to get out. You've got to be in it to win it. That's so true. If you want to get in contact with us, you can go to weeklyplanet at gmail.com. You can go to the Broadcasting Great Mates Facebook group

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And it's nice. It's always been nine US. Yeah. For now. That's exactly right. Bonus podcasts, early videos, movie commentaries, video game let's plays, et cetera. This week we've got a Roadhouse movie commentary.

That's right. I had a lot of fun recording that one. Roadhouse must be coming out soon. Yeah, yeah. That's fun. Some Roadhouse developments this week about everybody involved in Roadhouse must be coming out soon. Yeah, yeah. That's fun. Some Roadhouse developments this week about everybody involved in Roadhouse or the creatives took more money to maybe put it on streaming. Oh, okay.

And so when Doug Liman was like, well, this should have gone to whatever, but he hasn't said anything about it yet, so I don't know. Because initially he was like, I'm boycotting this because of whatever. Oh, yeah, yeah. We'll talk about it. You think this is below board? I don't know. What's happening?

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It's going to rack them for a musical theme. Yes. Next week, a different thing. We're going to watch Madam Web again. Yep, that's right. We're going to watch it on Twitter in little snippets. Or somebody will be like, whatever, man, he's Madam Web in its entirety. Yep. Pretty cool. Pretty cool. Pretty cool. be like, whatever man, he's Madame Web in its entirety. Yep.

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