The Weekly Planet - 516 Avatar: The Last Airbender

Episode Date: February 26, 2024

It's been an incredible month for another live action adaptation of Avatar: The Last Airbender. This time around it's much longer which is very 2024 of it. Plus we talk the news of the week include ...the fallout from the failure of Madame Web, the first reacions to Dune Part 2, big Warner Brothers movements with Joker 2's big budget and the potential sale of the company, a potential Batman Beyond movie, new release dates for The Crow and Micky 17, the MCU getting a light retooling, Henry Cavill in the MCU, a Naruto movie and more! Thanks for listeningVisit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Your Two Drunk Aunties Podcast: https://shows.acast.com/your-two-drunk-auntiesPlease be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start04:38 Sony Reacts to Madame Web Failures10:23 Dune Part Two Early Reactions11:54 Joker 2: Folie à Deux's Big Budget14:21 Salem's Lot Hidden Movie16:42 Batman: Beyond Animated Movie18:21 New Movie & Show Release Dates21:28 The Borderlands Trailer24:48 New Jurassic Movie Director & Release28:15 MCU Updates & Correcting the Fatigue35:27 Henry Cavill in the MCU Rumour37:52 Naruto Movie in the Works40:03 Avatar: The Last Airbender 2024 Review01:04:42 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:11:52 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:54 I'm Billy Borderlands. I assume there's a character in there. Yeah, William Borderlands. The game Borderlands. Yeah. All right. The Weekly Planet. The Weekly Planet. Welcome back, everybody. The Weekly Planet. The Weekly Planet.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of The Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James Olsen and I'm Mr. Sunday. And with me is- And I'm Billy Borderlands. It's Billy Borderlands. Just in case you cut out the bit from- I wouldn't cut it out.
Starting point is 00:01:16 That's up to Rob Collings who edits this podcast. That's true. He would never edit out that gold and that- He might. Beautiful new character. He decides what's hot and what's not. He's the tastemaker. Yeah. So we'll see what he says. I'm here also. Yeah, that gold and that beautiful new character. He decides what's hot and what's not. He's the tastemaker. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Actually, it's Wayne Mason I'm here also. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. So, yeah, well, that's one of the things we're talking about this week. We're talking about the Borderlands trailer, which has been long delayed and rumoured to be stuck in all sorts of development hell. But then somebody said, let's just fix it in post. Just get whatever you have, whatever we filmed, fix it.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Do that. Yeah, do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As a whatever you have, whatever we filmed, fix it. Do that. Yeah, do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As a farting robot, farting out bullets. That is fun, isn't it? Pooping and farting out some bullets. I just watched it. Yeah, you hadn't seen it, had you?
Starting point is 00:01:53 No, no, I didn't. Because you were excited but you couldn't bring yourself to watch it. This is effectively. You didn't want your heart rate to go up too high. That's true. This is basically a live reaction to the Borderlands trailer. If we could somehow, if we could change the thumbnail for this episode to me being like with a react face.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Whoa. Whoa. Yeah. Whoa. Apparently. What? Have you seen those YouTube videos that are like, person reacts to hearing Led Zeppelin for the first time or whatever.
Starting point is 00:02:19 They're all fake? They're all fake. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's like apparently they do really well with like boomers to have a young person go, whoa, this is incredible. I love music. I love the music from your era. I don't like my music.
Starting point is 00:02:30 None of this rap crap. I didn't realize this is where music started. That's right. With the music you like. I thought it started with Nicki Minaj. I thought she wrote Love Me Do. So, yeah, they're fun, aren't they? I've never watched any of those for a single second
Starting point is 00:02:46 i think i've seen videos of people talking about those and being like gross you've never seen you've never heard bohemian rhapsody i don't believe you wow yeah anyway mason we are going to talk this week about avatar the last airbender the second live action adaptation that's right and it's longer than the last adaptation isn't it yep? Yep. Yep. Yeah, it is. No, it really is. Confirmed. Confirmed here. A lot longer. Yeah. No, I wouldn't say a lot longer. I would say probably six hours longer. Yeah. Four times as long?
Starting point is 00:03:14 Yeah, maybe. Yeah. We're also going to talk about the true cost of Madam Web, like on ourselves, but also financially. Sure, okay. Incalculable $200 million. Or vice versa. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Also, in terms of where the Sony Spider-Man universe is going to be headed.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Yeah, sure. The early reviews are in for Dune Part 2, which we'll be talking about next week. Yeah, we didn't get an early screening. No, actually we did. Do you want to go? When's it out? I don't know. It's out this week.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Okay, great. Yeah, I mean, you could go to the premiere at Melbourne IMAX if you want. I won't go, but if you want to go. I'd go to the premiere at Melbourne IMAX. God, now I have to email someone. Yeah, if you could. You're the worst, Mason. Thanks, man.
Starting point is 00:03:52 You're the worst. Thanks, man. On top of that, we've got a bunch of Warner Brothers stuff, right? Oh, yeah. We've got the budget for the next Joker movie, Joker 2. Stephen King talking about a Salem's Lot remake, which has just been sitting on a shelf. Yes, Queen.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Yep. Yep. We're going to be talking about- They just did a Salem's Lot, I feel. Yeah, maybe. Didn't they? Maybe a series or something. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:17 I can't remember. Also, what David Zaslav appears to be going to be doing with Warner Brothers in the near future. Selling it to somebody? Yeah, probably. A Batman Beyond series of concept arts pieces that was released this week. Did you see that? Looked like Spider-Verse.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Yeah, it did a bit, didn't it? We're going to be talking about some delays and some dates for some things that have been shuffling around just a little bit. A trailer for Borderlands, as mentioned. They've got a good director for Jurassic Park 6, Jurassic World 4. Yeah, great. Marvel's retooling and something.
Starting point is 00:04:50 God, there's a lot of news. There's a lot of news. We can probably skip talking about Avatar, honestly. And then Naruto something. Naruto? Naruto. The guy who runs like this. I know who Naruto is.
Starting point is 00:04:59 He runs like this. Yeah, I know. Ruined a generation of children. I saw something Naruto run across the road the other day. I'm telling you, man, it's fucked up a bunch of little weebs who have grown into men and women. True. You know, and non-binary, wherever you're at.
Starting point is 00:05:14 That's cool. But it's not a good running stuff. Also, you need your hands to catch yourself because you're going to fall over. It's true because you're Naruto running. What is Naruto's deal? He's got a spirit of a demon fox in him or something. Not all something. I know that for a fact because I know everything about anime
Starting point is 00:05:30 and I do the Naruto run, but I don't fall over. Absolutely not. All right, time goes by if you want to skip to the Naruto bit. But remember, I want you to cast your mind back to when Madam Web came out last week. Was it last week? Has there not been an episode in between? Yeah, it was the last episode. Has there not been an episode in between?
Starting point is 00:05:46 No, that was it. Wow. I know. Not a good movie, was it? No, movies are bad this year. A lot of fun, though. Yeah. Not good, though.
Starting point is 00:05:55 No, the YouTube video did well. Oh, that's great. People were just coming to see us kick a movie, which was fun. That's cool. So this is by THR. Now, the original cost for this movie was $80 million. That was reported. Okay. is by THR. Now, the original cost for this movie was $80 million. That was reported. I don't know how.
Starting point is 00:06:10 But apparently it's $100 million. Alright then, sure. Apparently the current mood on the Sony lot is gloomy. This is via an insider. Gloomy mood on the Sony lot? You should have had that two years ago when you thought about this. Yeah, the gloomy mood should have started when they looked over the available
Starting point is 00:06:25 properties and the first cab off the rank, like the best one, was Madam Web. Yeah, unbelievable. So that's really funny to me that they're like, what happened? What do you think happened? What do you think happened? You tell us in your own words. It's the fact that there was no superhero stuff. Like it was just in someone's imagination really.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Yeah, imagine. God, it was good, wasn't it? So this is by also the same article, a theatrical chain executive said, on Wednesday night, this is the Wednesday it came out. It came out on Valentine's Day? That's right. You could actually watch advanced purchases,
Starting point is 00:07:04 purchase sales declining in real time as buyers were refunding their tickets it really says something where you'd rather have when you'd rather have shazam two numbers i mean that was a big disaster and this is a bigger disaster than shazam two it's also a much worse movie that's probably something to do with it yep yeah yeah yeah yeah. One veteran studio source outside of Sony says, I don't know if women are enough to carry the box office here. So this happens every 10 to 20 years. Sure.
Starting point is 00:07:34 It happened with like Catwoman, Birds of Prey. The Marvels. The Marvels, things like that where they're like, the problem here is women. Yeah. And not that you made a terrible, unrelatable movie. I saw someone say on Twitter, this is what happens when you turn Spider-Man into a girl brand.
Starting point is 00:07:52 What do you mean? A girl brand. Like Venom. Yeah, like Venom. Like classic girl action figure line Venom. You never seen sexy girl Venom? No, I have. Yeah, you know.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's in my dorm room. Posted on my dorm room wall. Yeah. So it's just, I mean, it's taking the wrong lesson again. You know, that's what's happening here because, you know, there is a market for people who want to see female-led anything. We've seen that in movies before.
Starting point is 00:08:21 We saw it with Barbie last year and Oppenheimer. That had chicks in it. You told me that, didn't you? That's right. You looked away. I didn't know. Anytime there was a risk of any women on screen, you looked away, but I told you. This is by the Anclerals. Or like, you know, Across the Spider-Verse.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Exactly. Which has female lead characters in it. Yep. And that did very well, I think. I think that's also because that's a good movie. Yeah. Yeah. And maybe that's the lesson. Or maybe it's just the women thing. And speaking of, well, Nick Cage might be doing a live-action Spider-Man show or
Starting point is 00:08:52 movie or something, and this is by The Ankler. Silk Spider Society is a live-action Spider-Women ish series that they're going to put on Prime. You better believe it's Spider-Man-ish. And one source close to the series claims that Silk will be refocused with a more male-skewing audience in mind.
Starting point is 00:09:07 That's perfect. Okay, sure. I mean, I don't think this was going to be good regardless. No. But just do this now. Just go in a different direction. Yeah. Yeah, so this is Sony.
Starting point is 00:09:18 And look, I was going to say they need to be stopped, but they don't. Let's just see what they do. Again, not our money. That's right. Except for when we buy the tickets, when we go and see them. Yeah, I guess. But I write them off on tax. I don't know what you do.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Well, a good thing you can do, and a lot of people as well are out there. You steal all the urinal cakes. Then you've got all the urinal cakes you want. Oh, my God. That's right. Exactly. People are like, how do you fill your toilet with urinal cakes? I'm like, I steal it from the movies.
Starting point is 00:09:42 But, I mean, you know, and if you think that like, you know, you don't want to support Disney, Marvel or what have you, and you just still want to see the movies, here's a little fun tip for you. What you can do is you go on your phone and you buy a ticket for the Marvel movie and then you see what cinema it's showing in and then you click the big button that says cancel purchase and then you buy a ticket for anything else. Anything. That's around the same time and then you click the big button that says cancel purchase and then you buy a ticket for anything else.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Anything. That's around the same time. And then you just check your ticket and then you go into the Marvel movie. That's right. So if you want to see Madam Web and you want to pay for it, can you just regularly buy a ticket and go and sit in and see it? Yes. Is that an option?
Starting point is 00:10:20 I suppose. That's what I did. Oh, interesting. And then you wrote it off on tax. So now the taxman knows you paid to see Madam Web. Interesting. That's what I did. Oh, interesting. And then you wrote it off on tax. So now the taxman knows you paid to see Madam Web. Interesting. It's embarrassing for you. It is a bit embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:10:30 When he comes around with his big sack to take all your silverware and stuff. It's my job. I tell the taxman. Every time I tell someone this is my job, and this has been happening more frequently of late, people go, and you make money from that. Really? Or it's how much do you make?
Starting point is 00:10:43 It's some variation on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's fun. Wow. And you make money from that. Really? Or it's how much do you make. It's some variation on that. Yeah. So that's fun. Wow. And you make money off that. How do I make money? Or I get, so who's in them? And I'm like, your podcast.
Starting point is 00:10:54 I'm like, me. I'm like one of the main guys. I'm the main guys. And they're like. Really? Huh, really? I wouldn't have pictured that. Why?
Starting point is 00:11:02 Not Kyle and Jackie O? They're not on one of your podcasts? So that's fine. People are like, this fucking guy, really? Yeah. All right. What if somebody asks you, they're like, can you make money from that? And you're like, what?
Starting point is 00:11:14 No. Oh, my God. I should have been making money. So, Mason, Dune Part 2 is amazing, apparently. That's right. The early word is. 97% Rotten Tomatoes. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:11:25 Early days. Apparently it's shockingly good. Here are some quotes. The best. I loved it. Big kisses. These are all from the major Hollywood outlets. That's what they're saying.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Sounds like they're from some of Josh Brolin's poems that he's writing on set. Have you been seeing those? No. He's been writing poems for everybody on set. And how are they? They're good. Are they really? I don't know if they're good. But he's doing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you can make money from that? No. He's been writing poems for everybody on set. And how are they? They're good. Are they really? I don't know if they're good.
Starting point is 00:11:46 But he's doing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he can make money from that? No. Okay. No, he gets fined every time. Okay, right. Denis Villeneuve has a very specific poetry on set role. I did see his hot ones recently. Or was that an old hot one? Or was that an old hot one?
Starting point is 00:12:01 Josh Brolin. It would have been his last one. Yeah, it would have been for Dune 1. That's right. He said he last one. Yeah, it would have been for June 1. That's right. He said he was gearing up to Dune 2. Okay, right. That's right. No, he had a series that came out where he discovers a big hole in his backyard or his farm, and apparently it was this series that was really good that I'd never heard of. And I'm like, no, I should watch that thing that came out and disappeared.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Okay. Yeah. Josh Brolin's holy farm. That's right. One hole. Okay. Just one big hole. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:24 So there you go. Anyway,une this week uh very i'll probably try and watch original june not the original original i'll probably try and read the book i won't do that either did we see it on we watched it at home yeah yeah album our home yes that's right because that was the era when um they decided it was because of covid they put all the the warner brothers releases to streaming. Yes, that's right. Day and date. And it ruined their year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which was great for us.
Starting point is 00:12:48 That's right. And we're like, well, Warner Brothers will bounce back from this. Yeah. They're full of good. Other than this, they're full of good decisions. Oh, my God. And here we go, Mason. This is by Variety.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Joker, Folly and You, which is Joker 2, the budget for that has been revealed. Now, if you recall correctly, the original Joker cost $60 million. It was a low-key affair. It was just about recreating a grimy 80s New York or whatever it was. And they had to get the blood squib when Robert De Niro was shot in the head. That's a spoiler for the movie Joker. This one, $200 million. That's so much more.
Starting point is 00:13:20 The Joker 2. There must be some big action sequences in this. Could be a big dance number. No action, Mason. Could be they big dance number. No action, Mason. Could be they've CGI'd everything. Yeah, they might have. I hope so. Apparently Joaquin Phoenix is earning $20 million
Starting point is 00:13:31 and Lady Gaga is earning $12. Big names, big time, big briefs. That's right. Yeah, I think you're right. I think there's going to be a lot of expenditure will be into elaborate musical numbers and et cetera. Does this leave you more or less excited for the movie Joker, Fully Adieu?
Starting point is 00:13:51 Maybe less. Because it's – you're trying too hard. Well, if they're just throwing more money at it. Yeah, I like that though. Okay, good. Yeah. I love how it's like, you know you can earn more money by doing a similar budget and like it will probably do like equivalent
Starting point is 00:14:09 or round or maybe even more. You could recoup even more. Do you see what I'm saying, right? Wow, okay. Is anybody saying this? These are lessons you learned from the tax man when he came over. Maybe, yeah. Do you see what I'm saying though?
Starting point is 00:14:21 Yeah, okay. Yeah. But also. Like, I mean, $200 million is crazy. It is crazy. yeah okay do you see what i'm saying though yeah okay yeah but but also like i mean 200 million is crazy that's it is crazy and like even like 120 i would i would joke okay yeah yeah double the budget the previous yeah and also there is no guarantee that this one i mean in the current superhero movie landscape there is no guarantee that this one will do as well as the previous one. It might do way worse. I mean, the Marvels sank and Shazam 2 sank.
Starting point is 00:14:49 This one's got a girl in it, and that's bad. Exactly right. What else sank? I mean, a lot of stuff. Aquaman 2. Yep. Didn't sink, but it didn't do awful. Aquaman ended up being the highest grossing Warner Brothers movie
Starting point is 00:15:02 since the previous Aquaman. Yeah, but it still didn't do as well. No, it didn't do well. No, it might have just broken even. Yeah. Because they didn't market it. So that probably helped immensely. So I guess we'll find out whenever this is out in November or whatever.
Starting point is 00:15:16 So Stephen King, God damn it, Mason. What have you got against Stephen King? I don't know. He said on Twitter and he said, Between you and me, Twitter, I've seen New Salem's lot and it's quite good. Old school horror filmmaking, slow build, big payoff. Not sure why WB is holding it back. Not like it's embarrassing or anything.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Who knows? I just write the fucking things. All right. First of all, language, Mr. King. I know. Come on, man. Maybe he was doing all the cocaine when he wrote this, which is how he used to write. That's right.
Starting point is 00:15:42 He doesn't do that anymore apparently. He's doing clean living. Apparently a Warner Brothers spokesperson. Vegan cocaine. Yeah, this, which is how he used to write. That's right. He doesn't do that anymore apparently. He's doing clean living. Apparently a Warner Brothers spokesperson. Vegan cocaine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Spoke to Variety and they said no decision has been made about the film's future distribution plans. This is another thing that Warner Brothers are just like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Yeah, maybe we'll write it off. We'll see. Yeah. Is it good? We didn't look at it. I don't know. Yeah. Tell us.
Starting point is 00:16:02 But you can't because we won't show you. Yeah, it's gone. So, yeah, but there's probably a reason for this this is also via variety uh in april warner brothers discovery can entertain offers to buy sell or merge with a studio like nbc universal this is our famous segment one one big corporation buys another one and it's great yeah and it's great and you you don't realize which one is bigger. You're like, which of these is bigger out of these two? I'm surprised. Wow. NBCUniversal is bigger. Interesting. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:29 I thought they just had 30 Rock. I just thought they had 30 Rock reruns. And did GE own them? That happened in 30 Rock, didn't it? I think, yeah, they're owned by General Electric. So yeah, in April, Warner Brothers can entertain offers to buy, sell or merge with a studio like NBCUniversal as many on the lot believe will happen.
Starting point is 00:16:46 That's when the two-year lockup period expires as part of the 2022 deal that united Warner Brothers Media and Discovery, another time the two things came together. Okay. Which one's bigger? I don't know. All of the recent moves from the first look packed with Margot Robbie's Lucky Chap to the quest to land Christopher Nolan's Oppenheimer follow-up
Starting point is 00:17:06 are akin to painting a house before it hits the market, which has been suspected. David Zaslav, normal man who's running Warner Brothers. Into the ground. Yeah, he's basically stripping it for parts to sell it for a profit. Look how much profit we made. And then he'll get a huge payout. When is there going to be one big company?
Starting point is 00:17:27 It's going to be really good. Oh, my God. Comcast Apple? I hope it's sewn. Apple.com? Cast? Dot com? Yeah, really good.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Speaking of Warner Brothers, there's a Batman Beyond concept art, which surfaced this week. So Yuki Demers, who worked in the art department on both Spider-Verse films, shared some of these concept pieces. And this is what he wrote about them. Five months ago, Patrick Harpin walked into Warner Brothers and DC and pitched a Batman Beyond animated feature. Before we pitched it, they warned us there was absolutely no way we could do a Beyond movie.
Starting point is 00:18:00 They loved our enthusiasm. We pitched the outline for the entire film. And what started as a never turned into a maybe. In the time since, we've been pitching our way up the company, hoping to get to James Gunn. But for now, he's a taste of what we've been cooking. And it looks very Spider-verse-esque. But I'll cut to the chase.
Starting point is 00:18:14 It's still never. Do you think? Yeah. Because they are working on animated projects at Warner Brothers. Like there will be new stuff. But, yeah, this would fall into elseworlds something something i don't i don't know sure i don't know yeah um but yeah i think they probably want to get the mainline stuff like working and then yeah and then they'll they'll go from there but i i i mean
Starting point is 00:18:38 yeah batman beyond would be awesome cool i think it also mentioned on a few sites that and we talked about this but keaton was rumored to be doing a Batman Beyond movie. They fucked that so they can't do that anymore. So we've got to wait until Ben Affleck gets old enough. That's right, yes. And maybe wants to do it. Yeah, yeah. So, you know.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Or you can just catch him during his cigarette break and he'll look old enough. That's true. Old and huggin' enough. Film him from the shoulders up. Mm-hmm. And go from there. But, yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:07 We'll see. Just hold the phone, Mason. Hold the telephone, which is an applicable expression to this situation. Hold that telephone. Yeah, absolutely. All right, here's some dates. The John Wick spinoff, not the TV show. Okay, but Ballerina.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Ballerina, starring Ana de Armas, has been pushed to June of next year, 2025. But in its place, The Crow takes its spot of June 7th of this year. Whoa. Bill Skarsgård is The Crow. You also had a trailer this week for. The one where he's being voiced by H. John Benjamin. Yeah. Love all of that.
Starting point is 00:19:41 He's The Crow, and apparently this is a movie that is filmed. All right. If you say so. This is what they're telling me. I'm not saying anything. Interesting. So that's happening. I mean, this crow reboot, we've been talking about this for as long as we've been doing this podcast. It's true. Bradley Cooper was going to be it. Jason Momoa was going to be the crow. Everybody gets a shot of being the crow. That is so true. For a time. On top of that, The Boys Season 4 got a release date of June 13th. It's going to do the similar thing where it releases three episodes in the first week and then one each week after. That's right.
Starting point is 00:20:14 And Mickey 17 got a release date, which is the next movie from Parasite Man. Wong Joon-ho. His name's not Parasite Man, is it? No. No. And Robert Pattinson. That's right. The Parasite Man, is it? No. No. And Robert Pattinson. That's right.
Starting point is 00:20:25 The Parasite Man, as we call him. He is, yeah. That's going to be January of next year. Now, you're very excited about this movie. Yeah. Because a lot of people are like, this might be cancelled or deleted or what have you. Because it's Warner Brothers also. Because it's Warner Brothers and you just don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Yeah. Did you read the book? I did, yeah. Is that why you're excited about it? Yeah. I like the book a lot, but I'm more excited for what this director is going to do with Parasite Man in it. Sure, yeah. I mean, Parasite, the movie.
Starting point is 00:20:48 I like all, I mean, Snowpiercer, the one with the big grub in the lake which has eaten people. That's right. Amazing filmography. So that's what I'm looking forward to more about this. The story itself, yeah, it's good. It's like a good sci-fi story. Sure.
Starting point is 00:21:01 It's basically about a guy who is an expendable person whose job on but don't panic not like the expendables no it's better than that i hope whereas he's called mickey 17 because there's been various i think the book's called like mickey 7 but yeah it is um where he's if they need someone to like there's a radiation leak they'll send him in he'll die and then they'll clone him his job is just to do stuff like that. Yeah, right. And he gets most of his memory. Yeah, he does save points. Right, okay. So, yeah, it's great, hopefully.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Great. Anyway, next year. That was your most anticipated movie of 2024, I think. And now it's my most anticipated movie of January of 2025. Great. Yeah, so that's good too, isn't it? Very convenient for you. I don't think it is, actually.
Starting point is 00:21:44 We found a little loophole, did we? Well, what's my good too, isn't it? Very convenient for you. I don't think it is actually. Found a little loophole, did we? Well, what's my most anticipated movie now, Mason? Some crap. Joker 2? Yeah, it is. It's Joker 2? It is, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:53 I don't want that. It's not though. It's not. Because you can't change it to June 2 because that's too close. Yeah, okay. So it's got to be Joker 2, I'm pretty sure. Is there another Indiana Jones movie this year? No. No?
Starting point is 00:22:03 They're not doing any more? No, the last one was a massive failure and everyone hated it. We thought it was fine. Yeah, we thought it was fine. Yeah, that's right. Which is what you want. I think so too, yeah. From a long-established franchise.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Yeah. Beloved. Trailers are high. Borderlands finally got a release that's right maybe years ago the guy who owns Gearbox Randy Bichford maybe
Starting point is 00:22:31 Randy Newman yep he did a weird behind the scenes video where it just looked like he had everybody hostage oh yeah that's right
Starting point is 00:22:38 he's going up to Kevin Hart and Kevin's like great yep so they finally released this trailer for this movie that looks to be a disaster basically asked the question,
Starting point is 00:22:46 what if Guardians of the Galaxy had a really unpleasant vibe and everyone in it was 50 to 70 years old? Yep. It asks the question. It does do that, doesn't it? Yeah. It's an interesting car. There's something wrong with this.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Like, do you know what I'm saying? Look, here's the thing. Cate Blanchett's got a great look in this. Big fan. Yeah. Yeah. It's bizarre that this great look in this. Big fan. Yeah. It's bizarre that this is the movie she did after Tar. Yeah. And what did she do?
Starting point is 00:23:10 Yeah, she does something. I mean, did she do it after Tar? I don't know. Didn't we film it? Yeah, that's exactly right. Four years ago, maybe. Yeah, and she probably got paid a lot. It's pretty ironic considering the ending of Tar.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Am I right, James? Haven't seen it. Am I right? She got stuck in Tar? Yep, that's right. How ironic, she said. Yeah? World famous composer and conductor Lydia Tarr.
Starting point is 00:23:30 I'm stuck in this tar. Nobody helped her? Save me. Oh, no, save me some of the people I betrayed in the movie Tar. Oh, no, you're not helping me. I'm drowning in tar. That's really sad for Lydia Tarr. Yeah, and in the future they aren't, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:42 future paleontologists unearth it and go, oh. We could use this for fossil fuels. That's right, yeah. That's how it works, isn't it? That's right, yeah. Yeah. That's great. This is really good.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Yeah. So people who love these games, and I don't. I've never played them. Okay, sure. They always seem. Unhinged? No, but not in a way that I'm not interested. It's like, ooh, it's edgy and whatever.
Starting point is 00:24:02 And I'm like, I don't know. It just looks like you put some neon on a robot. I'm sure there's more to it than that. People seem to like these games. No, they like the neon on the robots. Yeah, but people don't like what they've done with these characters. Oh, don't they? No.
Starting point is 00:24:15 The big muscly guy is one of the Drago brothers. Oh, is he? Yeah. Okay, right. That's a good time. And people don't like that? No. You mean the guy with no shirt and a mask?
Starting point is 00:24:24 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, just in general, they don't like that? No. You mean the guy with no shirt and a mask? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, just in general, they don't like what's happened here. Oh. If you're a fan of Borderlands. Looks exactly like Borderlands. Yeah, but the cast, they're too old. People are like, why is everybody 70 years old in this movie? That is interesting.
Starting point is 00:24:37 I think I saw this first on Reddit. And the comment, the person who posted it was like, I don't know how they got Kevin Hart to do this. And it's like of all the people in this, why do you think Kevin Hart is the one that. Yeah, he's the, I would. It would be Cate Blanchett. Like that's the one, right?
Starting point is 00:24:56 Or Jamie Lee Curtis. Yeah, exactly. What are you talking about? Kevin Hart did several Jumanji movies. He's doing one right now. Yeah. This also could be a Jumanji movies. He's doing one right now. Yeah. This also could be a Jumanji movie. He could be doing this.
Starting point is 00:25:08 He could have made this in between takes of the Jumanji movie. Jack Black's in both. That's true. So anyway, look forward to this disappointing everybody on August 9th of 2024. On every level. My most anticipated movie of the year is Joker 2. That's right.
Starting point is 00:25:23 But then it's this. That's right. Wait, there is no Indiana Jones movie yet, is there? There's not another one. They're not doing Indiana Jones 6. No, they. Indiana Jones is turned to dust. Yeah, they destroyed all the servers that had the 3D model
Starting point is 00:25:35 of Harrison Ford's face on it. Oh, no. They buried him in the desert next to those AT cartridges. Oh, no, but they dug those up. Yeah, to make space for the servers. Okay, great. It's by deadline. Now, they were in a bit of a rush to find a director for Jurassic
Starting point is 00:25:47 Park 4, Jurassic World No, Jurassic Park 6? Yeah, 7. Jurassic World 4. Okay. Because they set a release date of July 2nd of next year. Huh. Which is ambitious. Yep. And I love ambition. Same. That's what drives this podcast. No, it isn't.
Starting point is 00:26:04 This podcast is driven by us doing as little as possible. Okay. There's something ambitious about that, though, isn't there? And we're surly about it. Yeah, we don't like it. We don't like it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Can you make money from this? No. We should look into that. Yeah. So they got one of the John Wick's guys. They were like, he's doing it and then he's not doing it. Not Chad Stahelski? Yeah, that guy. Oh, okay, right. One of them. David Leitch. Yeah, him's doing it and then he's not doing it. Not Chad Stahelski? Yeah, that guy or the other guy.
Starting point is 00:26:25 One of them. David Leitch. Yeah, him. Yeah, right. Bullet train guy. Yeah. So Gareth Edwards. And he was like, is there going to be any trains?
Starting point is 00:26:32 No. Can I get Aaron Taylor Johnson? No. Okay, well then I'm out. Gareth Edwards. He's doing a Kraven, is he? Yeah. Then I'm out also.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Yeah, he's sunk his brand and I'm not going to be part of that. So yeah, Gareth Edwards will direct the upcoming blockbuster. Who of course directed Godzilla 2014. Monsters, Rogue One sort of, the creator more recently. He impressed producers Steven Spielberg and Frank Marshall. And also it's the writer of the original Jurassic Park script. So people I know were like, and Gareth Edwards was on Corridor Crew this week and he's like, my interest is in like special effects and all of that.
Starting point is 00:27:05 So if people are concerned that like the story elements might not be up to snuff, don't worry. They're banging out a script. They're banging it right. That's right. They hopefully doubt it. Yeah. I doubt it though.
Starting point is 00:27:16 He spent apparently last week meeting with executives. Pre-production will now ramp up with the director in final negotiations. So I guess not quite. He could still be out. Yeah, absolutely. Could we make this good? No. Then I'm out.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Yeah. Hang on, I'll flip a coin. I'm out. This is. I think this is promising. This is promising. I mean, still the date is like. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:27:40 There's a very good chance. But as we know, Gareth Edwards, when left to his own devices. He runs and guns. He runs and guns. And when he's left to his own devices, he seems to be quite good at bringing things in in time and under budget because he's like, I want the shot to look like this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:57 And he has three months to do it. Yep. And I'm not going to change my mind. Yeah. Now, whether he can do that. They'll let him do that. Under the control of whoever owns the Jurassic Park franchise. Universal.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Universal is a. It may be Comcast. Oh, it might be, yeah. I don't know. Whatever we said earlier. Although, is that Universal Vivendi? Is that different from Universal, the distributors? Is that different from the Dark Universe?
Starting point is 00:28:22 No, that's different. Which is back, I think. As a park thing. Yeah, it's a big park. We just talked about it. It didn't win me. It didn't win me. Yeah, I think given his track record,
Starting point is 00:28:36 I would like to think that this could work, but who's to say? Maybe he'll drop out midway due to creative differences or something. But, you know, if we want what we want, which is a Jurassic world. Yeah, man. I think he could do that. Absolutely. Because if you think of Godzilla 2014 and Godzilla just running rampant
Starting point is 00:28:54 and the Muto's just running rampant across the world. I do think about that. You know, that's some good stuff. Yeah, and I think also they've got the budget to be like, how many dinosaurs do you want? Yes. Because, you know, because people complain. One. Big one. Oh my god,
Starting point is 00:29:07 that's great for me. I love one big one. Alright, Mason. Should we go to the next topic? Yes. Of conversation? Yes. Here we go. MCU updates. There was an article by THR this week titled, How Marvel is quietly retooling amid superhero fatigue.
Starting point is 00:29:25 That's correct, yes. Yeah, so fatigue. I'm doing a joke. Love that. Yeah, so. That's also correct. Yes. Here's some things that were in this article.
Starting point is 00:29:34 I'm not going to read the whole thing, and I didn't. Okay. No, I did, Mason. Okay. Executives are apparently not calling what Marvel are doing a reboot, not even a soft one. It's more of a creative retooling. Don't do that. No, they're doing it one. It's more of a creative retooling.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Don't do that. No, they're doing it. I don't. And they're calling it that. You shouldn't call it that. That's what they're doing. It's fine. Can't say reboot.
Starting point is 00:29:55 Don't squirrel around saying creative retool. No, because they're keeping a lot of the same people probably. Probably, yeah. Yeah, so there you go. Some of the moves that they've made, they've hired Joanna Callow, the showrunner of the acclaimed FX series The Bear, to work on the script for The Thunderbolts, which is probably out next year. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:30:10 So you probably want to get started. You've seen that one image of it. Yeah, that's right. Crimson guy, he's waving. Hi. The Crimson Russian. I'm the Crimson Russian. Red Russian.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Here I am. I'm the Red Russian. Doing a big wave. Yeah. So that's good. I mean, if they let her. Apparently one of the Bob Iger mandates is now, you know how you were doing one thing?
Starting point is 00:30:26 I want you to do this. And that's do more creator-controlled things as opposed to. They want to put creative, distinct voices on projects. No, they don't. No, they said they did. Yeah, but they're lying. No, they said it this time. They mean it.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Oh, okay, great. This is apparently the new Winter Soldier. This is what's happening. Oh, nice. That was a good one. Take it on that tone. One of the good ones. One of the good ones.
Starting point is 00:30:43 That's 10 years old. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. One of the good ones. One of the good ones. That's 10 years old. Yep. Yep. Yep. Apparently also they're quietly hired. Just quietly. Just between you and me. Eric Pearson to polish the script for Fantastic Four.
Starting point is 00:30:55 He worked on Thor, Ragnarok, and Black Widow and has a reputation for taking projects over the finish line. Okay. He's good at just dragging that carcass. Yeah, yeah. Those are good movies, though, aren't they? I liked Black Widow. You didn't?
Starting point is 00:31:05 I did. Oh, enough. Yeah. good movies though, aren't they? I liked Black Widow. Enough. You didn't? I did. Oh, enough. Yeah. Okay, Ragnarok's good. Did you see this week there's a lot of ex-Marvel actors, well, two that I can think of that were sort of doing some Marvel bad-mouthing? Oh, who?
Starting point is 00:31:16 I don't know if you call it Marvel bad-mouthing, but Robert Downey Jr. was based. He said. Oh, he was like, I wasn't legitimate. And then Christopher Nolan made me the legitimate again. Christopher Nolan apparently came up to him and was like, you want to regain some credibility? Because you did that Doctor Dolittle movie?
Starting point is 00:31:30 Yeah, that's right. It's interesting they didn't mention that specifically. Yeah, yeah. Also, Mark Ruffalo said a thing. He said that he was speaking to an actor that he would remain unnamed and the actor said that he was having trouble or she was having trouble getting work because certain directors were saying that they'd been in too much Marvel stuff
Starting point is 00:31:51 and it was sort of beneath them. And this actor said to Mark Ruffalo, or maybe one of them was Paul Thomas Anderson. And I'm like, I don't think that's true. Because Paul Thomas Anderson likes Marvel movies. Like he's one of the directors, like an auteur director who's gone on record and be like, yeah, me and my family watch Marvel movies.
Starting point is 00:32:10 We think they're great. Do you think he's talking more of like these people are too overexposed? Oh, I don't know. They put them in the movie and suddenly they're like, Black Widow's standing next to someone else. Another Black Widow. Yeah, second Black Widow, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:23 It wouldn't surprise me though if somebody said that about something. Yeah, but I just don't believe it was Paul Thomas Anderson. Oh, that's interesting. Maybe he's thinking of Paul W.S. Anderson. No, he'd do anything. Yeah, he would do anything. Yeah, that's why we like him. Also, P.T. Anderson put Bradley Cooper in Licorice Pizza.
Starting point is 00:32:39 And P.T. Barnum electrocuted that elephant. That's true. The two things. And Hugh Jackman brought that to life magically. He technically wasn't P.T. Barnum, I think. Or was he? No, he was the greatest showman. Yeah, he was, wasn't he?
Starting point is 00:32:50 And he was in that movie. And he was in that movie, yeah. So Fantastic Four, et cetera. Blade will probably be moved to 2025. Okay, sure. No, or 2026. Yeah. Can't remember.
Starting point is 00:33:03 Because it would otherwise mean that there are four Marvel movies next year. Quick name them. Fantastic Four. Yep. Madame Web 2. No. Kraven 2. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Kraven 3. Yes. Blade. Blade, yeah. So I think it's Fantastic Four, Thunderbolts, Captain America, Red Hulk. Yep. And Blade. Captain America, Red Hot Go.
Starting point is 00:33:25 And there's rumours that Captain America, Hulk. Yep. And Blade. Captain America Red Hot Go. And there's rumours that... Captain America Red Rooster. Well, I think I have to give up on Red Rooster, Mason. Wow. It's been upset. They changed the cheese to sliced cheese. Did they? From grated cheese.
Starting point is 00:33:37 From grated cheese. Yeah, man. Yeah, yeah. The sliced cheese, maybe they just ran out of grated cheese. It's not as good. No, I know. It doesn't taste the same. They slowly, they took away, they replaced all the Coke grated cheese. Not as good. No, I know. It doesn't taste the same. They slowly took away, they replaced all the Coke stuff
Starting point is 00:33:48 with Pepsi products as well. Sure. Are they doing this on purpose? To upset you? Yeah. Because you're their one customer. You're their one regular customer. I think they probably just ran out of grated cheese.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Yeah. No, it's regular. It's on the board. Oh. I've seen it. Wow. I know it's happening. I'm going to have to give it up.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Find something else terrible. Let me ask you this question. Go on. When we go to Red Rooster, do they even play music or is it silent in there? Because if you go to like a McDonald's or something, I bet there's like- Yeah, there's something going on. Something going on. But I think at Red Rooster, they're like, no, we can't afford the license.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Well, you know, it's because every time we go there, there's like a different award for best store or just a plaque with a chicken on it on the wall and something's gone but they don't replace anything. Somebody pulled the TV off the wall but the bracket is still there. There's like handles missing on doors, parts of
Starting point is 00:34:37 playgrounds like dismantled. It's fascinating. It is, isn't it? But it happens slowly. I don't notice. I'm the frog boiling in the pot. That is It is, isn't it? Yeah. But it happens slowly. I don't notice. I'm the frog boiling in the pot. That is so true, isn't it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:49 But I think the point, I'm going to have to jump out. Anyway, Blade's going to get moved probably or cancelled because Mahershala Ali might drop out or doesn't. Yeah, and he's the one thing with credibility in this whole project. And also they haven't written it yet. Well, they have written it multiple times and it's bad. And it was announced in like 2019 maybe. Also, it's just a guy fighting vampires with a sword.
Starting point is 00:35:13 That's all you need. Yeah. You know? But, you know, you want to get that right. Yeah. And also, I guess this is the biggest part of it, the Kang Dynasty title has been dropped. So apparently they were looking to move away from the whole Kang storyline.
Starting point is 00:35:26 This is before the Jonathan Majors trial result. Didn't we know this already? Didn't we know it was just going to be renamed Avengers 5? There were rumors of it, but this is the THR saying that. This is something. Because I think the stories initially were like, oh, no, they're only going to drop it now, or they're going to recast Kang.
Starting point is 00:35:43 But I think even after Quantumania came out, I think they would have, for one, there was too much heat on Jonathan Majors even at that time. Yeah. And that guy got, like, stomped out by Ant-Man. That's true, yes. So, you know. And then at the end of Loki. How are the Avengers going to defeat this guy that Ant-Man beat up?
Starting point is 00:36:00 He's dead. Ant-Man killed him. How are they going to defeat this guy? Did he defeat him with some sort of molecular? No, just his fists. He just punched him. What, Paul Rudd? All right.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Great. Good, yeah. I bet the Avengers will have a tough time with that guy. Yeah. And at the end of Loki, they were just like, we got him. Yeah. We sorted it. That's right.
Starting point is 00:36:21 We sorted it. This is why I have my time to shine. Hello. Fake sauce, but continue. No, some of this is all right. We sorted it. This is why I have my time to shine. Hello. Fake sauce, but continue. No, some of this is all right. I don't know. Apparently, Henry Cavill has offered and accepted a role. He's offered and accepted his own role?
Starting point is 00:36:33 That's right. Wow. In the Marvel Cinematic Unitime. Wow. Apparently, it's not Doctor Doom. Okay. People have said Hyperion, who's basically Superman. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Sometimes good, sometimes evil. Superman, sure. Captain Britain, who's basically Captain America., yeah. Sometimes good, sometimes evil. Superman, sure. Captain Britain, who's basically Captain America. I would like that one, yeah. Hercules. Yep. But a lot of people are saying Cyclops. Cyclops.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Scott Summers. Okay. And I think that is a good choice. I think Captain Britain would be my call. It's too obvious. It's too obvious. You're a dumbass. Yeah, no, I am.
Starting point is 00:37:00 You're dumb. No, I know. I'm dumb. And yet, with that way lies wisdom. Yeah, I know I am. You're dumb. No, I know. I'm dumb.
Starting point is 00:37:04 And yet with that way lies wisdom. I don't know if – do you think he wants to tie himself down to a long – like a Cyclops-style role where you have to be in multiple X-Men movies? I think he's a nerd. He's kind of a nerd. He's doing The Witcher and he's doing – Warhammer. Big mech suit man. Yeah, he's doing big mech suit man.
Starting point is 00:37:21 But that's the thing. Isn't that his passion project? Didn't he say recently this is the best thing I've ever been involved with in my life, doing this show. All right, settle down, Henry Cavill. I will not settle down. Do you cherish moments with friends? No, I don't. Oh.
Starting point is 00:37:35 I only cherish wielding my storm bolter. That's great, man. And he went. Did he? Is that what he did? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I like Scott Summers. It would also mean that it's an adult team.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Sure, okay. An adult X-Men team. Sure. Which I have no problem with. Okay. For some of them. Sure. For being adults.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Sure, okay. So, yeah, let's see. Let's just have a go. Let's have a go. I think that we're talking about this. I think they're going to do the original, original X-Men team. I think they're going to start there. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:38:02 And then move forward. But I don't know. Which is like Angel, Beast, but he looks like a man. Yeah, sure. Cyclops, Jean Grey. Do you think they're going to do that? Emma Frost? No, that's not right, is it?
Starting point is 00:38:14 No, because that's also some. Banshee? No. That's sort of the first class team. Yes, it is. So I don't know if they will. I reckon they would want another line. No, they had Darwin and Magnetron.
Starting point is 00:38:25 So it's Cyclops, Marble Girl, Beast, Angel, Iceman. There we go. Okay, right. Yeah. I don't know if they will do that. I reckon it might be some new guys. I reckon we might not have a Wolverine for. No, I agree with that.
Starting point is 00:38:37 I mean, they'll do the Hugh Jackman thing and then they'll. They might even reveal who new Wolverine is in that movie. Oh, that's true. I don't know. We'll go forward when that. We'll move forward. We'll move forward when that. We'll move forward. We'll move forward when everybody else moves forward. This is by THR.
Starting point is 00:38:48 A Naruto movie is in the works. Whoa. As I mentioned, the property that ruined a generation of running styles for a bunch of weebs who grew up on this. Destin Daniel Cretton is going to be co-writing and directing it. He did Shang-Chi. Oh. And that's happening. It's for Lionsgate. Lionsgate and directing it. He did Shang-Chi. Oh. And that's happening.
Starting point is 00:39:05 It's for Lionsgate. Lionsgate are doing it. And because I put this here because who doesn't love adaptations of anime, even though Avatar is not technically anime. That's right. It's from Western Studio. It's from Western Australia. It's from Western Australia.
Starting point is 00:39:18 They made it in Perth. That's right. They filmed it behind the big prawn. Yeah. That's where that is. Is it? I don't know. I don't think it's in Queensland prawn. Yeah. That's where that is. Is it? I don't know. I don't think it's in Queensland probably.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Okay. Nerudo, we talked about it. Do we need to? I don't know what Nerudo is. We don't know what he's up to. Wait, he's got a fox in him. Yeah, he's got a fox in him. He's right up there. That's great.
Starting point is 00:39:37 That's why he's probably running like that. He's still on the run, yes. Yeah, he's trying to get away from it. That's why the tails are coming out. I think it's multiple foxes because he has multiple tails. Yeah, I don't know how that happened, but it's his life. It's his lot in life. Well, that's great.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Yeah, it is, isn't it? Before we get into Avatar, I just want to point out, I was on a podcast this week, Mason. Were you? It's called Your Two Drunk Aunties with Bron Lewis and Sammy Peterson. It's an advice podcast. Oh, yes. It's a jokes podcast.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Oh, you love jokes. There's a spooky story among it. I mean, two episodes this week. They release a bonus one on Friday as well as a regular episode on Monday. It's also filmed. It's on a YouTube channel if you want to check it out. Damn. They've got it going on.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Yeah, I'll probably mention it again next week because I think it's out on – I can't remember if it's on Monday or Tuesday. So I can remind everybody next week if I have to, Mason. Okay. But it's a lot of fun. Sammy Peterson does a bunch of other stuff. You heard it. Including Confessions and Bron Lewis is an amazing comedian
Starting point is 00:40:29 and what a fun pairing together that I was there also. I was there. Did you give good advice? I gave incredible advice. That's great. Yeah, yeah. Do people email in? Yes.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Love that. You don't think they would? Can you make money from emailing? I think you can do it. You don't think so? No. Unless you email in like I was in your store and I slipped on a P or whatever. Slipped on a P?
Starting point is 00:40:47 Yeah. P or a P? Whatever. Whatever gets me the most money. I love this correspondence. Okay, cool. Should we move it along? Let's move it along.
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Starting point is 00:41:59 We watched eight episodes of a television series this week. Sure did. Eight hours of our precious lives. It's true. At least it came hours of our precious lives. It is. It's true. At least it came out on like Thursday or whatever. That's true, yeah. Break it up a little bit. Sometimes it's like Saturday.
Starting point is 00:42:10 That's right. We have to record Saturday night. Yes, we do. This time around, it's another adaptation of Avatar The Last Airbender. There was the first adaptation, and that was probably a video game. Then there was a movie. We covered it for Caravan of Garbage, and that was cool. Years ago.
Starting point is 00:42:24 We recorded it years ago. We did record record it years ago were you surprised by all of the insights that you had no i didn't watch it oh well but do you think you would be surprised if you watched it you'd be surprised that you were watching i reckon if i watched it i could probably predict what jokes i was going to attempt oh because you're so far beyond that now are you no it's just no it's just i only your comedy has evolved. You're basically like. You know what? Yes. I was going to disagree. You're minority reporting your own jokes.
Starting point is 00:42:47 That's exactly right. A big wooden ball rolls down and it says something dumb that you'd say. Yeah, that's right. What if he farted? What if he fell over and he farted? A big wind came out of his bum. Oh, let's see. That's what I call a bloody airbender.
Starting point is 00:43:01 That's great. You're going to believe this. Go on. This cost $15 million an episode. $15 million? Yes. Okay. What do you think the story was?
Starting point is 00:43:09 Oh, come on, mate. Just get into it, all right? All right. Okay. So there's four nations and they live in harmony. They're the captain planet powers of nations. Except for heart. No, they've all got heart.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Most of the characters have heart, Mason, I think you'll find. That's actually the thing that carries a lot of these characters through. Disagree. Like they get through by the way that they rely on each other. Some people are like, you've got to work by yourself. You're the avatar. You've got to do a big flying kick and kick the head of the guy. Kick him right in the head.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Kick his head off. And he's like, I just want to be with my friends. No. Do a big fire kick. Kick his fucking head in. Okay. Anyway, that happened. Yep.
Starting point is 00:43:44 And the four nations, they've fucking head in. Okay. Anyway, that happened. Yep. Four nations and they've got the Tavern of Planet Powers and they're living in harmony because of the Avatar. The Avatar, he's got all the powers. They've only got one power. He's a bloke this time. But he's got all the powers and he's like, hey, you kids, stop it. And once, when the Avatar dies,
Starting point is 00:44:00 another Avatar is born, but this time it's Aang. And he's told he's the Avatar and he's like, but I don't want to be the Avatar. I just want to hang out with my friends. Yep. Well, you've got to do a this time it's Aang. And he's told he's the avatar and he's like, but I don't want to be the avatar. I just want to hang out with my friends. Yep. Well, you've got to do a big flying kick, Aang. I don't want to. I want to be with my friends.
Starting point is 00:44:12 I want to freeze for 100 years. I mean, you haven't seen any of my friends. They're not really around. No, no, no. My friend's this old bloke. Yeah. If I'm honest, it's just this old bloke. Yes, this is old bloke.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Old bloke. He's also my trainer and sort of like my dad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My best friend's my dad. And he lives in a spirit realm at my dad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My best friend's my dad. And he lives in a spirit realm at some point. That'll be later. Yeah, yeah. But anyway, there's a meteor shows up and the meteor.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Hello. The comet shows up and that means that the fire tribe, they've got the most powers right now. So they do a big battle and they. They do a big fire kick. They do a big fire kick and they show up and they blow up the air tribe. Yep. But Aang, he's the air tribe but Aang
Starting point is 00:44:46 he's the avatar but he He left. He left but he freezes himself with his water powers By accident I think. By accident and then 100 years happened. 100 years passed and the fire tribe they take over the whole world. Yep. Sort of mostly.
Starting point is 00:45:02 But then Aang he busts out of there. And then he's like, what the bloody hell is going on here? What the bloody hell is going on here, you bloody kids? Who did this? Yeah. You did it, Aang, because you weren't around. Your dog.
Starting point is 00:45:16 He would have died anyway. Yeah, he would have. He's bad at it. And he was a boy. He was a boy also, yeah. Yeah. But then that's what happened. happened and he's gotta train in all the powers and he's gotta yeah stop the bad guys yeah yeah but he's got a couple of friends he's
Starting point is 00:45:31 got mates yeah that's cool for the first time it only took him 100 years no he had that old bloke oh yeah now first off yes i just want to say go on and i've seen this suggested anyone who thinks this is like worse than the shamalanalan version, you've lost your mind. I understand. That is just, you cannot, I mean, if you really hated it, I guess you could say, well, it's longer. It's a longer version of the Shyamalan thing. But that felt, like I didn't feel like this dragged
Starting point is 00:45:57 in the way that that dragged. I kind of felt it dragged, but I didn't. It's also. I don't remember. As watching the first episode of this, I'm like, oh, I remember elements of this. Yeah. Small bits from –
Starting point is 00:46:08 Because you did watch it four years ago. Yeah, but I'm like, oh, I do remember when he got frozen. Yeah. I think. I think I remember that. You should have watched the video. You're in it. No, I don't want to do that.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Yeah, fair enough. Yeah, look, I was expecting the worst. Yes. And I thought it was okay. I think some of this is the worst. Okay. Here's one thing I'll say. I think I have reached stagecraft saturation.
Starting point is 00:46:31 I think everything is made on the volume now. Yeah, well, this was. And some of the time you can really tell. It hurts it, yeah. It's the same thing we saw with Ahsoka, which is just three people standing shoulder width apart, just standing next to each other, and they're like, that'll do. It's the same thing we saw with Ahsoka, which is just three people standing shoulder width apart, just standing next to each other. And they're like, that'll do. It's the mountains behind us.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Just a sort of medium shot of that. Yeah. And look, you're in the Arctic. Am I? There's moments where, like, they're on the back of the flying bison and they're just chatting like they're inside a car. Yeah. Like there's no wind whipping. They're just like, oh, hello. They're not, like,'re inside a car. Yeah. Like there's no wind whipping. They're just like, oh, hello.
Starting point is 00:47:06 They're not like yelling over the wind. And I think it's at a certain point, look, what I tried to do was I tried to be like, well, it's a magical world, isn't it? It's a magical world. It's a magical, surreal world. Yes. And it's not always going to feel like the world.
Starting point is 00:47:19 But so much of this I'm like, oh, boy, this does not look like it's taking place anywhere. And I would say also some of this actually looks great. Some of it looks great. You know what I think? I think the sky bison looks pretty good. Yeah. Which is why you see it like.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Twice. Twice, like maybe once or twice an episode. Yeah. And sometimes not at all because it's so expensive. Yeah. To do it and make it look good. Like when you see the first reveal of it, like he lands in the snow
Starting point is 00:47:45 and he shakes off all the snow or whatever, and then Anne goes up and hugs him, and I'm like, this is going to look bad. They don't do that again though, do they? No, but look, and I think that's probably because they just built a big furry wall. Yeah, sure. And had him hug it and then they integrated it.
Starting point is 00:47:58 But I think that effect is actually pretty good. But again, and the little monkey man, that's rarely in it. They really take, and this was similar for the movie but less so, they take a lot of the personality out of those characters because they are expensive to implement. They're not real creatures, which is interesting. Interesting approach. Well, they could have put a furry jacket on a pig and filmed it really close.
Starting point is 00:48:24 You know? I don't think it'd look about the same. I think it'd look about the same. Have you seen the... He does a sketch comedy, Tim... I Think You Should Leave. Oh, yes. Where the pig comes through the door and it's got a Richard Nixon mask.
Starting point is 00:48:37 It just reminded me of that. That's good. It's a fun show that I haven't actually watched. I've just watched multiple clips of. Yeah. Yeah. I think there's things that they've moved around which they didn't need to. They show the Fire Nation massacre up top. Which you don't.
Starting point is 00:48:53 You find out, you know it, something happened. I can't even remember specifically because I watched this whole show like four years ago. So you've seen the movie and you've seen the animated series. So you'd be better qualified to talk about the differences here. I mean, it's been a while, and I had a kid in between. Oh, yeah, that's true, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:09 So cut me some slack here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I mean, you know, a bunch of kids being massacred in your mind is often blending with you wanting to massacre a kid. With Anakin doing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is my favourite child massacre. Yeah, but I felt like...
Starting point is 00:49:23 You don't need to see it? Well, I think you could see it well i don't think you could see it later right but because i think it's there are some like exciting action moments in it yeah but you don't know and then yeah but you don't know it's easier yeah yeah you don't really know anybody at that point except for that one that's true so it doesn't really so you don't like you so it's i feel like it doesn't as much trust the audience for the world to unfold in the way that the animated show does. Like it kind of starts quite slow and like the pace is kind of like it's gentle and it eases you into it and then it expands out and it's like you learn
Starting point is 00:49:54 about different tribes and cultures and you get a sense of the world and different creatures and people and whatever. Where this is like, hi, Yang, you're great. I think you're my best mate and also these are the previous avatars and you're the latest avatar. You're the most important person in the world. I hope you learn a lesson about friendship. Don't run away.
Starting point is 00:50:12 That's right. And then he runs away, which is also they took a – I saw somebody worded this better than I did and I don't know who, so I apologize. You don't know yet, James. No. You might word it better than them. Yeah, here we go.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Here we go. Three, two, one, go. Aang in the cartoon, he's got this sense, he's got a wanderlust. Yeah, sure, okay. Where he's not strictly like looking to unite anybody. Like it's something that he knows he has to do. Is there more side adventures in the cartoon? Yeah, there is and kind of he's.
Starting point is 00:50:39 Sorry, the anime. Yeah. Wink. He's reluctant and also he's a child, so he wants to have little adventures and like explore different villages and meet different people, which ends up like aiding him in his journey because he's actually. He learns things.
Starting point is 00:50:52 He is actually learning from just existing in the world and getting to know people. Well, one thing I did notice in this. And he doesn't have that here. Yeah. Well, one thing I did notice in this that I think sort of is in the same vein is that a lot of the characters, which I assume in the cartoon, are always supposed to be hanging out.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Yeah. There's like this mid-period of like episodes three and four. Mid. You're like mid. Is that what you said? Where they're just not – they're all on separate adventures. So when it gets to like the last couple of episodes, it's like, well, they're a team.
Starting point is 00:51:23 And I'm like, how much working together have you done though yeah really you and kitara soccer yeah sorry football yeah um we've got an international yeah european football european association football yeah yeah i don't know i feel like also they like some people i don't i don't think anybody is bad in this yeah i think these characters and some people go over the top in a way which I like, which I'll get to, and some people are given dialogue that doesn't necessarily help the character or even scenarios. I think Gordon Commier as Aang, I think he is good. I think he's good.
Starting point is 00:51:57 I think he's compelling and he's great at the action sequences. He's quite young, though. He's young. Is this his first role or is it like? Probably or like close to. But they don't give him that like he's a child and you can see he's a child but they don't lean into that enough
Starting point is 00:52:12 I feel like. He's a child. He could do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you gave him the opportunity because he also in the show like he is stoic and he does make hard decisions and you see that here and I think he's doing a good job there. But with like Katara and European football they take doing a good job there. But with like Katara and European football, they take away a lot of the things that they do in the animated stuff.
Starting point is 00:52:30 So Sokka learns to not do big sexism. That's one thing I was aware of that they took out. They took out his arc where he's like, I don't think women can be warriors, blah, blah, blah. And it's also because he's insecure because his sister has amazing magical powers and he doesn't. Yeah. And that's the point.
Starting point is 00:52:49 But also, don't we learn later that the head of his tribe is like, well, I don't think women can be warriors. And then. In the show later. Yeah. In these episodes. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Yeah. From a different tribe area. Yes. So like, that is. They do the sexism, but later. Well, I was going to say, it's interesting that that is a, that is a lesson that is to do the sexism but later well i was gonna say it's interesting that that is a that is a lesson that is to be learned by yeah i assume the kids who are watching this and the kids who are watching the cartoon but i think it's it's always interesting to me when they're
Starting point is 00:53:15 like well we can't have a character we can't have a character be slightly bad and then learn yeah we can't have that so let's have this character that we don't care about be sexist. Yeah, exactly. Because we can't have – I hate the idea of like we have like the golden boy. Yeah. You know, they don't have any flaws and there's no way – you can't – it's not interesting. No. You know what I mean? He's also not –
Starting point is 00:53:36 I think that guy's kind of fun in how dumb he is. Well, he is, and he's way dumber and way funner in the show, in the animated, because he's given so much of that. Like he's a very endearing character because he's a fucking goofball. Right, right, right. And he is sexist. So the storyline that he normally has is – Which is why you like him so much.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Yeah, that's why I like him so much until he learned a lesson and then I'm like I can't relate to this guy at all actually. So he basically – he meets the Kyoshi warriors and he's like, this is ridiculous, like the female warriors. I'm a real warrior. I'm looking after my tribe or whatever. I've got a stick. Yeah, he gets humbled and he ends up dressing like them
Starting point is 00:54:10 because he wants to learn their ways. And by doing that, we're like, well, if you're going to do this, then you have to do all the things that we go through. Right. Whereas here he just learns the thing. Sure. He just learns it and he goes, this is pretty good. Can I do this?
Starting point is 00:54:21 And she's like, yeah, all right. You can do that, I reckon. Yeah, sure. So I think that's like, yeah, you're doing the character. It's 15 bucks a lesson. Yeah. You've got to pay for 10 up front, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:32 You'll sign this waiver because I will break your ankle. I feel like you're not giving the character, like, enough to do or, like, the audience enough credit that they can go, like you said, he learned a lesson, you know? Yeah, sure, right. I think they were really like, oh, I think maybe they would have been like you said, he learned a lesson. Yeah, yeah, sure, right. I think they were really like, oh, I think maybe they would have been like, can we put someone in a dress? What kind of feedback are we going to get from this? Oh, yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:54:51 What does that mean? Who's going to be upset by this or whatever? I think they probably just went, let's just not. Sure, okay. Which is the worst decision you could make. Yeah. Yeah, for this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:01 I think, yeah, I think the actor who plays Aang, I think he's good. I liked his shaved head. I think, yeah, I think the actor who plays Aang, I think he's good. I liked his shaved head. I did too. I mean, I think you can, like, it's a fine line, but I think you can tell he's really acting in a lot of points. Sure. I mean, he is acting. He's an actor.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Yeah. You're wrong. Yeah. But I mean, that's just because he's young. Yeah, and he'll, like, if this gets a season two, and I'd say it probably would, like, you'll watch these people get better. Yeah, I also'll, like, if this gets a season two, and I'd say it probably would. Like, you watch these people get better. Yeah, I also think, like, Katara is not given enough to do until, like, the later episodes.
Starting point is 00:55:31 You know, like her relationship with Aang, like, you see that unfold and they learn off each other because they both don't know waterbending that well. That's true. And so they're kind of, I don't know, I've probably got the timeline of this all messed up. But one thing I think they did nail, and because it's just what happened in the animated.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Nice. Paul Sung, Hwang Lee, who plays the uncle. Yes. The uncle bad guy, but he's really a bad guy. And Dallas James Liu, who plays Zuko. Danny Zuko. Danny Zuko. All of that.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Yep. Amazing. But also, they're very good in these roles, but also it's just exactly pretty much how they did in the animated. Okay. Yeah. Which to me is like, you're changing some things and not others,
Starting point is 00:56:14 but what's the point of this? Sure. Cause I feel like with like the last of us animated, animated, last of us adaptation, like it's different. Yes. But you're like,
Starting point is 00:56:23 Oh, I see where you, where you did that. Whereas this, I'm kind're like, oh, I see why you did that. Whereas this I'm kind of like, well, you nailed just doing the exact thing. Why not do it frame by frame? Well, yeah, all that and like what are you adding to it then? Well, yeah. Like it's not enough, I think, to just be live action.
Starting point is 00:56:38 And look, my son, I was probably two or three episodes in and I'm like, look, I need to watch this. Do you want to watch an episode with me? And he loved it. And he jumped in in the middle. He's like, this is incredible. And so I just went, listen, we'll watch one and then you just watch the animated thing. Because all the concepts
Starting point is 00:56:56 from here I think are so strong and it's all there. It's already four seasons and it's done. So, yeah. The bending's pretty good in this though. It's better than the M.I. version. Yeah, it looks pretty good, yeah. It's faster.
Starting point is 00:57:09 The guy plays Zuko. Some of the kicks he's doing, like that guy, he's moving. He's moving. He's moving, Mason. He's moving all right. But that relationship between them two and like how he lost his son and all of that and the way that that's explored, like it's really heartbreaking.
Starting point is 00:57:23 I like my favorite character development was when, you know, Katara is holding a lot of trauma because her mother was burned to death in front of her. Yeah. And Sokka's character development is his dad thought he sucked. Yeah. Just about equal levels of burden. He nearly crashed that boat.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Yeah, equal levels of burden there. I agree. I think that was cool, yeah. Yeah. Kind of parallel lives, you know what I mean? Absolutely. God, it's hard, isn't it? Yeah, it's tough. I think that's cool, yeah. Yeah. Kind of parallel lives, you know what I mean? Absolutely. God, it's hard, isn't it? Yeah, it's tough.
Starting point is 00:57:46 All of these situations are the same. Yeah. Anyway, it's – I-Ho, is it the uncle's name? I-Ro, yeah. I-Ro, sorry, yeah. I should know that. I watched it five years ago, four years ago. And I watched this recently.
Starting point is 00:57:56 You did? And they said I-Ro. Yeah. You fight – there's this like probably the best scene in the series is where like it's about him and his son and he sings this song or whatever. It's not in this. Oh. But, I mean, Paul San Huang Lee, who's in a bunch of stuff. He's in, what's that show, Kim's Convenience?
Starting point is 00:58:12 He's in Star Wars. Mandalorian, he's one of the pilots or whatever. He's amazing. They're really, really good. Anyway, when they got to the fish stuff, they're like, this fish is magic and it's from the moon. Oh, it lost the moon. I was like, oh, I hate this.
Starting point is 00:58:25 That's the next thing I was going to bring up. Because of the M. Night stuff. But seeing this, I'm like, oh, this is a better version of that. Yeah, because my next thought was. He's a big smashy water monster. Yeah, but I mean, what do you think the best action sequence in this show is? I think it might be the part where the woman takes over Aang
Starting point is 00:58:43 and can use all the power and she fends off everybody. I think it might be the part where the woman takes over Aang and can use all the power and she fends off everybody. I think it's somebody else. I think it's Roku. It's a Roku fire stick. It's a Roku. The previous avatar I think in the animated is a fire guy, I think. I don't remember. Anyway, go on, sorry.
Starting point is 00:58:59 But I think that's probably the best action sequence. But then my next thought was, boy, there's a lot of lore and it feels like to me it really felt like those last couple of episodes. It really kind of – I'm like, boy, this is a lot to take in in a day. Yeah, sure. Like we've already done the firebending and all the stuff and all the world building and all the background characters and all the trauma they've gone through and all this sort of stuff.
Starting point is 00:59:24 And then it's like, yeah, but then the big fish, he lives, he's in love with the moon. They're in love. And then the moon goes away. They capture the moon. And then he's mad. And so then Aang can take and become like a fish for Zilla. But now he's that forever.
Starting point is 00:59:37 But then he's going to sacrifice. But it's all right because when that lady died, when she was going to die. The woman from Prey. They saved the fish or the moon possibly saved her and then the moon left some moon spirit in her so she could sacrifice her life to become the moon again and then the moon would be back and then Aang wouldn't have to, you know.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Yeah. It's a lot. The moon. The moon. Don't worry about any of that, by the way. Don't worry about it because it's done by the next season. Great. Good. You don't need to think about it. I won the way don't worry about it because it's done by the next season great good
Starting point is 01:00:06 you don't need to think about it I won't ever again yeah yeah I like the weird face stealing monster sure that's a fun inclusion isn't it and I liked it when he'd visit
Starting point is 01:00:13 the previous avatars yeah okay is that new to the series ah no camera but I don't remember okay so maybe
Starting point is 01:00:20 yeah but no okay great yeah yeah yeah because he is all the previous avatars technically yes although they're the same spirits nice it's like it's Doctor Who sure So maybe. Yeah. But no. Okay, great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he is all the previous avatars. Technically, yes. Although they're the same spirit. It's like, it's Doctor Who.
Starting point is 01:00:29 Sure. It's Doctor Who rules. Okay. So sometimes he can be a fire guy. Sometimes he can be a dog guy or whatever. He can be a dog guy. That's great. I mean, they all have to do all the avatar stuff and whatever.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Ugh. So that's yuck. Work. Unless you have anything else to say, I've got some reviews here from people who have written them. Look, I... Just watch the original. Okay. yuck work unless you have anything else to say I've got some reviews here from people I've written in you look I just watch the original
Starting point is 01:00:47 okay I think again there is some I found this like a pleasant watch sure but it made me go that
Starting point is 01:00:54 these are some good ideas in this isn't there and I think there's some again really good performances in this yeah I did I reckon at the start of episode one
Starting point is 01:01:03 or towards the start I'm like I'm not gonna I'm like I don't know if I'm not going to – I'm like, I don't know if I'm going to enjoy this. I'm like, these characters – initially I'm like, these characters feel a little bit one-dimensional, but I think as I was forced to watch it because I had to, I'm like, okay, there's more – like I'm like,
Starting point is 01:01:18 I'm going to hate this soccer guy. I'm going to hate him, but I'm like, oh, no, he's fun and funny and, you know, in his dumbness no he's fun yeah and funny and you know he's got a great dumbness and he's yep exactly yeah uh so you know i i think i grew to like him but again is this gonna get another season i would say it will i think it's gonna do well i think it's not but is it gonna do well enough to satisfy the netflix algorithm i don't think anything can at this yeah maybe i don't know i don't know yeah who knows and then so at that point. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. Who knows? And then so at that point, why not? Like
Starting point is 01:01:46 what I'm guessing, what I'm getting from you is like, watch the original series because it's a complete epic and then just watch this live action version as a sort of fun novelty. Yeah, it's to be like, oh, that's different. This is how it would look if it were real kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:02:03 I think that's a good way to look at this show. It's like, oh, yeah, this is that other thing. Let me ask you this. How does the action feel compared to the animated version? I mean, the animated, like it's. Because I've only seen clips. Yeah. There's a clip that's being passed around, you know, the point where Aang gets on.
Starting point is 01:02:18 He builds a big. On the air bubble. He builds a big air bubble and he spins around and he crashes into a thing. And that's often been shown side by side like, it doesn't quite work in live action. No, that doesn't necessarily work the same. But I would say there's enough good stuff in here
Starting point is 01:02:33 where they didn't botch it. The animated stuff is incredible. There's so many like, I mean, it just ramps up. There's so much stuff that you can do in animation because it's way cheaper. It's basically free. It's free. Yeah, you can do anything. You can think of anything and then you can just have someone draw way cheaper it's basically free free yeah you can
Starting point is 01:02:45 do anything you can think of anything and then you can just have someone draw it yeah yeah snap your fingers yeah do a big air ball that's right so yeah but again just uh the show i thought look the lesson here is obviously don't kick out the original creators also which is what they did they were on board for this same thing happened with the movie they wrote some of it they wrote some of it and then they went, this is a different direction and they left. I also wonder, was that just more of a, to get kind of the fans on board?
Starting point is 01:03:11 Did they really want their input? Oh, I see. Right. You know, so. But surely the PR damage from them quitting, they'd have to know. Yeah. I mean, I think the way that you could have done this,
Starting point is 01:03:22 if you look at the way that Invincible is being adapted into animation and even like animation is that Robert Kirkman is heavily involved and he's like, okay, well, that was that version and now I'm going to take it in this direction. Sure, yeah. And he is the original creative voice and obviously there's more people involved, but he's still the driving force behind it. It's the same with The Last of Us. Like Neil Druckmann and now there's more people involved but he's still the driving force behind it it's the same with the last of us like neil drachman and now he's got
Starting point is 01:03:47 craig marzen or whatever and they're and they're interpreting reinterpreting what had been done before it's true whereas this is not so much that it turns out but it was still great and it's probably a 10 out of 10 yeah this is my qualified goose they send us in they said just finished last airbender series i wondered how many times can nickelodeon adapt this before they take the hint and work with the original creators. There you go. I rate this show one stolen line of dialogue from Man of Steel out of five.
Starting point is 01:04:11 Did you see that? It was like, can't we be friends? He's like, you're my mate, Man of Steel. Wesley Walker says, one episode into Avatar, Netflix, and it's obviously inferior to the animated show, but it's a lot better than the movie. The effects and pacing aren't the best, but they're better than people decided they'd be before it came out.
Starting point is 01:04:29 It at least has some personality to it. That means Netflix at least did a better job than Disney Plus did with Percy Jackson. Ooh. Is that good or not good? That's a burn on a show I haven't seen. Yeah, man. Or read the books.
Starting point is 01:04:40 Also, the director copied the Can I Pretend You're Sunline from Man of Steel, which is really weird and it didn't fit at all. You always won. So that's not in the anime. No, not to my knowledge. I mean, they're mates, Mark. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't remember.
Starting point is 01:04:53 James Bailey says, these ones are from the Great Mates group, if you want to go over there. Don't be rude, though. I watched one and a half episodes and it's pretty rough to watch. Like, I'm finding this harder to watch than the Bebop live action show. I never watched that. It was so unbelievably ugly as my main gripe, truly the worst use of the volume I've ever seen,
Starting point is 01:05:09 and the writing is just slop. Ooh. And Matthew Haddock says, well, I'm having fun. There's a weird amount of negativity about this show when I think it's perfectly fine, a fine, surfacable series. Nothing mind-blowing because I've seen it all before in the original show, but nothing offensively bad or awful. I mean, to me that feels like the quintessential review of an because I've seen it all before in the original show, but nothing offensively bad or awful.
Starting point is 01:05:28 I mean, to me that feels like the quintessential review of a live-action adaptation of anything at this point. Yeah. The best you can say in a lot of instances is. Except for one piece. Oh, yeah, that was fun. That was fun. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like that is the, for a lot of these,
Starting point is 01:05:44 that's the best they can, from, you know, from the Disney live action remakes to these live action remakes, they'll, you know, the best a lot of people can say is, well, it's all pretty all right compared to the, you know, it's all right. It's like the original, but it's not. And it's slop. Yeah, and we'll cancel it.
Starting point is 01:05:59 We'll cancel it. Yeah, yeah. I would like to see a second season. I would like to see what else can they do with this, you know? And again, because I like all of the actors in this really. Good on them. God bless them. Good on Dr. Harnd.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Good on him. The good doctor. The good doctor. Oh, yeah. He's the big guy. Yeah. Yeah. He was rude in this, wasn't he?
Starting point is 01:06:18 He was very rude. I don't think he's supposed to do that. I mean, it's rude. Yeah. It's one of the worst things you can be. Agreed. Should we move it along? Let's move it along.
Starting point is 01:06:26 What to? What are we reading? Yep. What are we going to read? Wow. I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today? What have you been reading?
Starting point is 01:06:39 What have I been writing? Yep. Checks. Oh, wow. Checks that your butt cannot catch? That's correct, yes. Oh, my God. That's right yes It's a fun exercise, you know What's a figure that my butt couldn't cash?
Starting point is 01:06:49 I'll write it on the check I would start in because this is based on anime because obviously Last Airbender is based on anime It is an anime I started re-watching Neo and Genesis Evangelion which is a very famous anime Where in that whole run? do you mean different oh i started the start first one and
Starting point is 01:07:10 and it's still still good do you like how the thing changed into another thing and someone went yes i did that i did like that is that the bit that you probably i don't know if i'm gonna finish because it gets pretty heavy neo genesis evangelion. The last couple of episodes are sort of very talky, sort of a lot of the, without getting too far into it, sort of some of the main plot is just sort of abandoned and it's very much like an existential talk fest and a lot of people didn't like that at the time. And there was a lot of complaints.
Starting point is 01:07:39 And so they made the end of Evangelion, which is a real. Just a big punch up. It's a real downer. Oh, good. And there's apparently some new stuff. It's called Rebuild of Evangelion, which is a real downer. Oh, good. And there's apparently some new stuff. It's called Rebuild of Evangelion, which I was unaware of and I haven't seen. So, I mean, I guess I will probably watch this whole thing and then start on. How much of it is there?
Starting point is 01:07:56 It's 26 episodes of the first season. Okay. And then other stuff. Is it funny? It's a little bit funny. Great. Yeah. I'll check it out.
Starting point is 01:08:04 I mean, I already have. Yeah, yeah, of course you have. Yeah it funny? It's a little bit funny. Great. Yeah. I'll check it out. Okay. I mean, I already have. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course you have. I'll check it out again. Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah. And I also re-watched Dungeons and Dragons, the movie.
Starting point is 01:08:10 Good movie. It is good. I keep seeing that popping up and I'm like, I should watch that again. There's always a small resurgence on Twitter of people just saying, we failed this movie. Yeah. I mean, we did, but also we tried. Yeah. We saw it and we liked it.
Starting point is 01:08:21 We saw it. We told everyone we liked it. But didn't it come out the week before Mario or something like that? Yeah. Terrible choice. Yeah. It really, I mean, and they called it Dungeons and Dragons. They should have called it Elden Ring. They should have, or they should have waited until Baldur's Gate came out. Yeah. And then released
Starting point is 01:08:36 it the week after that. Yeah. And they would have made a billion dollars. They should have called it Super Mario Bros. The Movie. Super Mario Bros. The Movie wink. Not the 1993 one. Exactly. It's fun. Like all the jokes still land. Everybody's great in it. Good, like just such a classic kind of hero's journey kind of vibe. You know, everybody's got a good arc to them.
Starting point is 01:08:55 It's Guardians of the Galaxy, yes. It is very Guardians of the Galaxy, yes, but it's also very Dungeons and Dragons-esque. Yes. Like if you've ever played it, it's like. It's nonsense. Well, it's nonsense. And also you can sort of feel the.
Starting point is 01:09:08 The slapdash. Well, no, you can sort of, you know, maybe this is just if you have played Dungeons and Dragons, you sort of feel it, but you sort of feel like there's moments where the dungeon master's just like, oh, how can I, how can I, they've ruined everything. How do I sort this out? Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Like there's, you know, I think we mentioned before, like it turns out one of the sticks that the character is carrying is actually a powerful magical item that just helps them. Yeah, gotcha. There's a big elaborate trap sequence that instead of, they just trigger it and they ruin it. Yeah. And there's, you know, there's the character, the paladin,
Starting point is 01:09:39 who's just, he's clearly the Dungeon Master's NPC character because he's gone, oh, this adventure's going to be too tricky for them, so I'll just bring in a guy who can solve some of their problems immediately. I like that a lot. And there's a big fat dragon. Yeah, and that's fun too. That is fun.
Starting point is 01:09:54 Well, I watched the rom-com of the century, Anyone But You. What did you think? It's all right. It's set in Australia mostly. It's pretty rom-com-y. I mean, I think it is a return to that kind of like, I mean, it's been doing well in cinemas and it's now on streaming, where it is that classic kind of rom-com,
Starting point is 01:10:12 but it's also, I would say, it takes some, there are some directions it takes. I mean, it is the formula that you've seen, but where they put in a little bit more effort to make it a little bit funnier and a little bit sexier and a little bit, you know, in ways that like you didn't have to but you did. There's some very specific Australian references that were like you didn't have to do that but you did and I appreciate that.
Starting point is 01:10:34 It does feel like there's like four people in it. Someone was saying it's an adaptation of Much Ado About Nothing. Apparently, yeah. I didn't know that when I was watching it. Oh, I watched No Hard Feelings, speaking of. Did I mention that a couple of weeks ago? It's the Jennifer Lawrence one. Oh, yeah, I've seen that too.
Starting point is 01:10:50 Yeah, I like that too. That one's fun too. That's a little bit raunchy. A little bit raunchy. A little bit of this and that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She has a nude punch up on the beach. She sure does.
Starting point is 01:10:57 That's true. That happens. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the rom-com is back. Well, apparently this one was the biggest one since like Bridget Jones 3. Whoa. So hopefully this leads to more of these actually. One where Bridget Jones goes back in time to feudal Japan.
Starting point is 01:11:07 That's right, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's fun. You haven't seen that one either. It's a dreadful movie, actually. It's just not. Not according to the box office. No.
Starting point is 01:11:17 And who can argue with the box office? Oh, and I read some Ghostbusters comics. Oh, because we're doing some Ghostbusters stuff? That's right, yeah. We're also doing Superman 64 next week for Never Go Back. We recorded it twice, and I did not want to do that. Did I, Mason? You did not.
Starting point is 01:11:31 Because the first one did not work. You got furious. But at least the second one was longer, so people got more content out of it. So I got stuck on those tornadoes for longer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And some other stuff happened in it. I will say about these Ghostbusters comics,
Starting point is 01:11:43 we're doing the first IDW run. Well, I picked that one specifically because the good one wasn't an accident, Mason, but go on. I did my research, my own research. Oh, yes. I did that for you because you love Ghostbusters and I don't give a shit. That was for you.
Starting point is 01:11:57 That was a gift. Anyway, go on. No, it's not a gift because it's just we're doing it for SEO reasons. Even though, like, surely that, like, it's paywalled. Yeah. So surely the SEO doesn't. No, I'm doing it because it lines up with the movie and whatever.
Starting point is 01:12:11 It's good to tie things in. Yeah, yeah. But you know what? I don't have the writer's names here, but they've nailed it. Yeah. Like they've got the. I know because I researched this mason. Oh, yeah, good, good, good.
Starting point is 01:12:21 Well, they really have nailed the kind of the voices of the characters. Yeah. I thought that was – Is it more animated Ghostbusters or movie Ghostbusters? It's a nice blend of them both. Like they've got the – they're more realistic in that they haven't gone with like Blondie gone or Redheaded Ray or whatever. But they've given sort of that kind of cartoony aspect to them.
Starting point is 01:12:43 Yeah. But they look good and it's sort of set after the Ghostbusters video game. Wow. Yeah. And that's not a great game. I think it's good. You would. Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 01:12:53 I wouldn't do. Correct. Should we next segment of the show? We should next segment of the show. I am looking forward to reading some Ghostbusters because I want movies to be good and they have not been good this year. Yeah, that's right. They've been two bad movies. But this week coming up, it's Dune. It's Dune, Mason. Dune is movies to be good and they have not been good this year. Yeah, that's right. They've been two bad movies.
Starting point is 01:13:05 But this week coming up, it's Dune. It's Dune, Mason. Dune is going to be the big one. Can you play the Dune theme song? And I'm going to the premiere of Dune or something. Oh, yeah, I've got to email them. I'll do that now. Can you play the Dune theme song for later?
Starting point is 01:13:16 Yeah, I'll play the Dune theme song. I've only got our letters theme. Is that all right? That's the Dune theme song. Is it now? Yes. Okay. All right, folks.
Starting point is 01:13:22 Imagine some rolling sand dunes and, like, the Emperor's army lining up, you know, millions of soldiers and ornithopters and the sandworms are coming. Look out. Bloody sandworms. Look out. The classic one was letters, oh, letters. We love you.
Starting point is 01:13:40 Some letters, they're only a take my way. I know they're here right now. We're going to do letters for the emperor. They said, I only have the Sydney dune. You only have the Sydney dune. Yeah. Wow. So do you want to go to Sydney? I don't want to go to the Sydney dune.
Starting point is 01:14:00 No. No, I don't. Let me check. Okay. I got an email that says dune tickets on sale now. Is that something you need to know? No, I don't. Let me check. Okay. I got an email that says Dune tickets on sale now. Is that something you need to know? No, I know that. I'm well aware.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Yeah, cool. No, man, I didn't get one. I guess I'm off the list. Well, feels good. This is one less email I have to deal with. That's right. If you do want to reach the show, because this is the letter segment, you can hashtag Weekly Planet Pod on Twitter if you are so brave,
Starting point is 01:14:29 or you can send an email to weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. Mason, what have you got for us this week? Here's an email from Rahul. Ooh. He said, Oh Lordy. Rahul Julia. Yes. Oh Lordy Elordy, the Jacob Elordy incident. Is that how you pronounce his name?
Starting point is 01:14:41 Yeah, the Australian dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know this dude. Can you please cover the Jacob Elordi story from a few weeks back and give the Aussie view on it for all of us non-Aussies? The article I read mentioned the phrase, tracked him to a hotel bar and prank gone wrong. So I immediately figured that whatever Elordi did was probably justified.
Starting point is 01:14:57 I thought I should reach out to the two Aussies I trust the most to get the full picture. I don't know. Like, I read what happened or whatever. But the people who instigated this prank, they have a radio show, Kyle and Jackie O, and they're the fucking worst and they will not disappear. It has been 30 years, Mason, of this.
Starting point is 01:15:17 And I simply cannot anymore. So they're just – look, I don't know anything about this guy, Jacob Elordi. He's the new Elvis. He's the new Elvis and whatever. Like I've seen things that he's in that I've enjoyed. I read recently that Austin Butler had to go – because he's the previous Elvis obviously.
Starting point is 01:15:32 Yeah, sure. He had to go to a vocal therapist or a vocal coach to get rid of his Elvis accent. He was too Elvis. He got too Elvis. Too Elvis. You don't want to go too Elvis because of all the things that Elvis did. Well, exactly right.
Starting point is 01:15:43 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he had to do it, which is, you know, he really went into it. The most Australian-looking non-Australian guy. Totally. I thought he was Australian. Yeah, exactly. And now he's that big white sperm guy in Dune 2. That's right.
Starting point is 01:15:55 Yeah. And he's all like, therapist is like, okay, Mr. Butler, we've finally cured you. And he's like, well, I get a reward. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. And they cuff him. They cuff him and they put him back in the straitjacket.
Starting point is 01:16:10 What's funnier, James? Let me ask you this. If he'd said, oh, thank you very much, or if he'd said, ah, thank you very much, Mama. That's funnier. It's funnier. And they might not have cuffed him. No, that's true.
Starting point is 01:16:20 For that. That would have been a good joke. Good joke. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, well, edit that in your own head. I will. Anyway, Jacob Elordi, I don't know anything about him or whatever. Maybe he's terrible.
Starting point is 01:16:28 I don't know. You probably shouldn't choke anybody out. No, absolutely not. If that in fact happened. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. There was that element of it.
Starting point is 01:16:35 Then, yeah, that's dreadful, obviously. Yeah. But Kyle and Jackie O are just, they're the worst, and they have been the worst for as long as I can remember. But people seem to love them. Yeah. I don't understand. Do they? Because it't understand do they because it's radio radio ratings the thing about radio ratings i don't know how they do it anywhere else but in australia somebody just calls you and
Starting point is 01:16:54 they say have you been listening to the radio recently and you go i guess and they go what channel what radio station and you go i don't know fox whatever? Yeah, because maybe you listen to it in your car or your workplace has it on all the time and they go, great, let's give $10 million to these morons again. Great, good. So, yeah, they've just been doing like controversy and whatever for decades. Just terrible stuff.
Starting point is 01:17:20 Just look up there. I bet it's all on Wikipedia. Yeah, it's all there if you are interested, which you shouldn't be. Just take our word for it. And also Kyle was on Celebrity Big Brother. That's cool. I know. Mason got this from Carmine.
Starting point is 01:17:33 He says, I'd love if you'd play Lego Batman when the Batman Part 2 comes out. Maybe we will. Maybe we will. Never played. I want to play Batman Begins, the video game. MiniMe, which is one of my favorite YouTube channels who looks at a lot of movie adaptations of video games. He recently did one on the Batman Begins, the weird game. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:52 The one where you have to instill fear. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He talks about all of that and how you think it's like it's actually giving you options, but it's not. It's just, oh, you've got to throw a batarang and hit a pipe and then the steam will come down the back. Oh, I'm afraid of steam. They drop their guns and they go, don't hit me. my mom used to hit me with a kettle so i'm afraid of steam oh so yeah maybe all right maybe what about you mason you play that what's your favorite batman game batman the movie omega 500 not arkham any of the arkham games oh yeah it's arkham it's
Starting point is 01:18:21 all the girls really good arkham games that they made yeah it's arkham asylum okay interesting interesting interesting it's all the girls' really good Arkham games that they made. Yeah, it's Arkham Asylum. Okay, interesting, interesting, interesting. There is that interesting game which is technically an episode of Batman the Animated Series where it's a side-scroller from like the 90s and they do like full motion video in it and it's a story they made specifically for the game. It's called like The New Adventures of Batman and Robin, beat up everybody on a rollercoaster and whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, fun.
Starting point is 01:18:45 Got another one? Here's an email from Alistair. Alistair? Having seen Madam Web, do you think it could justifiably be Batgirl for a tax write-off? And to that point, if Batgirl was going to be like Morbius Madam Web level nonsense, does that justify cutting studio losses and canning it?
Starting point is 01:19:00 I would say no movie. That shouldn't happen to any movie. Yeah, I agree. I mean. Well, I agree. I mean. Well, I agree, but I think the rule should be if you can something like that, you have to release it for free. Yeah, sure. Which we didn't speak about this, but they did one of those wacky
Starting point is 01:19:17 Warner Brothers earnings calls or whatever, and Zaslav, David Zaslav, the normal guy we know. I like him. He said something like, oh, I read the script for this thing and I loved it, whatever it was. And I'm like, you didn't read it. No. You didn't watch.
Starting point is 01:19:28 He did say that about something recently. You didn't watch Coyote vs. Acme. You didn't read anything. You didn't read this thing. You're a liar. But this week they did the earnings call. They didn't even mention Coyote vs. Acme, which suggests to me they're probably going to dump it.
Starting point is 01:19:42 But I've also read that somebody has a copy of it and they're threatening to leak it. If it gets officially deleted, they're just going to dump it. But I've also read that somebody has a copy of it and they're threatening to leak it. If it gets officially deleted, they're just going to put it on the internet. Oh, I would love that. Me too, yeah. Yeah, I don't think anything should be destroyed like this. I mean, you know, I'm sure there are movie productions where the thing couldn't be completed.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Totally, and that has happened before. You know, where an actor's gotten injured or, you know, somebody's had a meltdown and they can't finish it or whatever. Yes. But that's a different thing than I think a mostly completed film. I completely agree. Yeah. I was just looking because somebody sent me or I saw it on Twitter,
Starting point is 01:20:20 people booing David Zaslav when he was giving a speech. Oh, yeah, that's right. And it's just very funny because he's in front of people and he's clearly rattled because he's like, people don't talk to me like this. People don't boo and call me like a fuckhead. Yeah. So I got this from Dan who said,
Starting point is 01:20:35 for some reason I assume Mr. Sunday Movies has some strong opinions about this and there was a Four Corners interview where they interviewed the Woolworths CEO Brad Banducci. Who wears a little name tag like he works at the checkout. Ridiculous. About the lack of competition in the Australian grocery market and he absolutely makes a fucking fool of himself and then storms out and then he had to quit.
Starting point is 01:20:53 Yeah, yeah. So it's real. I loved it. This proves to me again that these are just fucking dumbass people. Yeah, you know what would happen here? Why would you even do this interview? What's wrong with you? Because he thought he could do it.
Starting point is 01:21:05 He couldn't. That's the thing because what would have happened here is he would have had advisors to go, no, just make a statement and don't do it. Yeah. And he would have gone, no, no, I can. I'll put on the polo shirt. Yeah, yeah, I've made it to this level.
Starting point is 01:21:15 I can put on the thing and I can convince someone I'm a good, honest bloke and blah, blah, blah. And then the guy's like, you should pay people more. And he's like, how dare you? What a fucking idiot. Anyway, it's good to see. You should stop price gouging people. He's like, how dare you? What a fucking idiot. Anyway, it's good to see. You should stop price gouging people. It's like, oh, no.
Starting point is 01:21:28 I'm just going to honestly battle like you. Yeah, you are, mate. Dog. You low dog. Nathan Cox says, hashtag weekly planet pod, are you guys planning on watching the Rise, Dawn and War of the Planet of the Apes movies of Caravan of Garbage? Recently rewatched them and they're great.
Starting point is 01:21:41 Yes. Oh, we are. Terrific. Well, we did a commentary for the original Planet of the Apes. Maybe we'll throw in a bonus Planet of the Apes in there while we're at it. Which one? Who knows? Which one do you think, though?
Starting point is 01:21:51 Burton? Yes. Oh. Not quite accurate to the book, though. I agree. Very accurate to the book. Got any more emails? Here's an email from Reagan.
Starting point is 01:22:00 Ronald Reagan? Ronald Reagan. But he was the worst and he's dead. Yeah, but he's come back. Great. And he's even worse. And but he's come back. Great. And he's even worse. And even more dead?
Starting point is 01:22:08 Yep. Great. Hey, Mason and James, I've recently read all of Robert Kirkman's Invincible in anticipation of the show. Anticipation. That's what he said. He said anticipation. I mean anticipation. Yeah, I'm making fun of him, not you.
Starting point is 01:22:19 Yeah, same. We're all doing it. We're all making fun of Reagan. And also reread Jonathan Hickman's Fantastic Four, Avengers and Secret Wars in anticipation of Avengers 5, not the Kang Dynasty. Yeah, man. I was wondering if you had any recommendations for other long-running stories that have definitive endings.
Starting point is 01:22:34 Walking Dead, that ends. It's Robert Kirkman, if you like Robert Kirkman. There you go, right. What else, Mason? What's good? My favourite completed storyline is Starman. People might know that. Oh, you were always talking about Starman.
Starting point is 01:22:44 Yeah, DC's Starman, 80 issues. You can get the omnibus. You can get a couple of complete compendiums. You can get the omnibus. You can get the bloody omnibus, mate. That's very good. And as I've said before, I was on a podcast recently and was banging on about this.
Starting point is 01:22:57 James Robinson, who created this version of Starman, made some deal with DC where they can't use that character again unless they have permission. How did he do it? We don't know. I don't know what he did before this. I don't know what he's done since. But it's ironclad because they did a Stargirl series.
Starting point is 01:23:14 Oh, they couldn't use it. They had to use a different – I mean, they did it for streamlining purposes as well, I think, but they could have just used this version, but they couldn't do it. They had to get Joel McHale to do it. That's so funny. He said, I'm Joel McHale and I used to be starman i'll do it yeah um and yeah so they they they they cannot ruin it that's the thing then that's the thing with that's the thing with a d-list
Starting point is 01:23:35 character or you know c-list whatever it is z-list is that some a creator can go you know what i'm going to create this great story for it but then then a year later someone can go, I vaguely remember that character. Let's make him a Nazi or whatever. And they've ruined the character. But this they cannot touch it. Absolutely. I love that. I'm going through my comics to see like what's the thing that I like.
Starting point is 01:23:58 And I've got a lot of good comics, but I'm like, do these finish and end and whatever? I mean there's Watchmen. Well, they made more. See, that's the thing. They definitively ended it until Alan Moore was like, I'm tired of fighting this. Yeah, it's true.
Starting point is 01:24:13 Spider-Man Life Story, there you go, that ends. Speaking of Alan Moore, my favorite unfinished epic of all time, Miracle Man, which stopped publishing in, like, the 90s. What? They're finishing it. Oh. Marvel have the rights now, and Neil Gaiman is back on it and they're doing it.
Starting point is 01:24:29 Do you think it'll be any good? I hope so. Yeah, me too. Maybe he's phoning it in. I don't know. But I've read a few issues so far and it's good. Okay, cool. So hopefully that will finish and then.
Starting point is 01:24:39 Something else will happen? Something else will happen. Like an earthquake. I would love if something else happened. I don't know. I've got a lot of comics. Yeah. Just looking through. Anyway. Maybe a Batman new one. Like an earthquake. I would love if something else happened. Same. I'm just, there's just, I don't know, I've got a lot of comics. Yeah. Just looking through.
Starting point is 01:24:47 Anyway, maybe Batman new one. There's one. There's another one. Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one, isn't it? That's a good one, all right. That's a good one. That's a good one.
Starting point is 01:24:53 I just quickly hear from Girl in the Reflection who says, what's the most delicious thing you've eaten lately? Delicious thing? Yeah. Ooh, I had a French dip yesterday. It was very good. Oh, yeah? It's like a, it's just a roll with a lot of meat and cheese in it.
Starting point is 01:25:07 Okay. And they bake it in the oven and you have a dipping gravy and you dip it in the gravy. Sounds pretty good. Oh, it's good. I went to a pub and they did a chicken schnitzel and it had a pepper sauce gravy and then a fried egg on top. Ooh, not bad.
Starting point is 01:25:20 No, it was bad. Oh, that's a shame. It wasn't a good combination of things. It sounds really good. I actually ordered mine without the egg and they're like, who's not getting the egg? Who's eggless over here? Eggless.
Starting point is 01:25:28 Yeah, and I didn't want to say why would anybody fucking eat an egg on this? Okay. I said I already had eggs today, which wasn't true. And they're like, whoa, you can never have too many eggs. I said, I'll worry about how many eggs I eat. What's this guy on the egg council? What's going on here? It was one of those pubs where I went there.
Starting point is 01:25:45 Wait, wait, wait. Was he a big egg? He was a big egg. Well, that's weird. I know. Because what, is he sacrificing his kids for also eggs? I met a listener of the show. I can't remember his name out on Saturday night.
Starting point is 01:25:59 Oh, it was Mr. Eggs. I'm sorry. I've forgotten your name. God, I'm normally so good with names too. That's not true. But it was very nice to meet someone. Yeah, he was very nice. Wow.
Starting point is 01:26:07 With his partner who didn't know who I was at all and why would they? Absolutely, yeah. I mean, a listener didn't get their name because I was crossing the road and they went, Mason, I'm listening to you right now in my car. And I went, yep, good. You suck. Oh, what? No, that's fair.
Starting point is 01:26:22 That's you saying to them. Oh, you suck. Do something else with your life. You're a degree. This is one of those pubs where I ordered a vodka soda because I'm like, I don't want to have beer. Like, I've had enough beer. And it's like, oh, I've got a gay drink.
Starting point is 01:26:39 Here's the gay drink. Oh, really? I'm like, yeah, okay. Thanks, man. That is, wow. Yeah, really good. Wow. Is that the same? Is that the egg pub? Yeah, it was the egg pub. They don't know what they're doing, okay. Thanks, man. That is, wow. Yeah, really good. Wow. Is that the same?
Starting point is 01:26:45 Is that the egg pub? Yeah, it was the egg pub. They don't know what they're doing, Mason. Yeah, wow. Yeah. Wow. Eggs and homophobia. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 01:26:52 That's what it's called. Side by side. It's called the egg and homophobia. The egg and homophobia. Oh, it's one of those classically named pubs. Wow, the egg and homophobia. Here's one more email. Got it.
Starting point is 01:27:02 It's from Fabian. All right. He says, met the guy that made the giant bat fist from Dracula Untold. All right. Hello, fellas. I'm studying game design in Sweden, and we had a presentation from a man who worked on the VFX from Dracula Untold and Geostorm. Yes.
Starting point is 01:27:15 Two movies. He says, I didn't meet him. That was a lie. He was there. He was there. I get it. He said they made a program called the Bat Machine that could render three and a half million bats on screen at the same time,
Starting point is 01:27:26 something I can confidently say is objectively impressive. Must be nice. He also said he recommends those two movies only after getting drunk. Oh, come on, bro. That's right. What are some really impressive scenes, effects, or parts of a movie that otherwise suck? That's a great question.
Starting point is 01:27:41 Bad movie? God. The bit where Blade opens his eyes in Blade 3 because Blade wouldn't open his eyes. That's right, yes. That's a good one. That movie? God. The bit where Blade opens his eyes in Blade 3 because Blade wouldn't open his eyes. That's right, yes. It's a good one. It is a good one, yeah. God, what's something that's good in a bad movie?
Starting point is 01:27:50 God, we know this, don't we? No, we don't. Transformers? There's a lot of like, that looks pretty good, but this is a dreadful movie. I mean, the effects of those got worse and worse, I think, but like objectively, Transformers 1, when you see Optimus Prime transform from a truck to a man,
Starting point is 01:28:06 first time. Exactly. That's incredible. You know, it's a good moment where Jim Carrey comes out of the bum of that rhino in Ace Ventura 2. Yeah, absolutely. I just looked up. This is on Rotten Tomatoes.
Starting point is 01:28:18 30 great scenes in bad movies or whatever. You know what? That whole first Transformers movie, it is awful. It's not that bad. No, it's awful. The scene when the helicopter transforms for the first time. You've just been poisoned by the other ones. They're all bad.
Starting point is 01:28:32 Go on. Yeah, I agree. That is a good vote. That's a great intro to the Transformers. What about Darth Maul? He's not a special effect. Well, he kind of is. What about the opening of Wolverine Origins?
Starting point is 01:28:44 I'm looking at this Rotten Tomatoes list. That's not a special effect so much. It is a set piece. Yeah, okay, fair enough. We're talking about the best set pieces. Yeah. Oh, here's a bit of news. This is from John.
Starting point is 01:28:55 He's emailed him. Unless you want to, you've got a special effect. No, no. You said Transformers in the night. Well, this one, they've actually put one of the higher ones is the Mummy from 2017. Yeah, sure. Which said they meet Mr Hyde,
Starting point is 01:29:08 and that's one of the best moments in that terrible movie where they meet Russell Crowe. Oh, and in that movie as well, speaking of great special effects, Tom Cruise's fake butt. Oh, yeah, he's got a big padded butt. Yeah, yeah. John emailed in, four Beatles movies, why? Oh, yeah!
Starting point is 01:29:22 I don't think I saw this. I nearly put this in yours. But this week it was announced that Sam Mendes will be directing four biopics about each individual members of the Beatles. This is a stupid idea, right? But also interesting because it implies that each of these movies would have the same four actors appearing in all of them.
Starting point is 01:29:35 We're the Beatles, all four of us. I personally hope this culminates in a fifth Avengers style movie where they team up to fight Pete Best and the guy from yesterday. We're the Beatles, we're actually going right now to watch John Lennon get shot. I hope it culminates in one scene where they all wank in the same room. Yeah, but you want that for every movie.
Starting point is 01:29:54 Yeah, that's true, yes. Yeah. But it's all, there's just a magic door with light behind it and they're like, what's in this room? What's in this room? How long do you reckon they'll make John Lennon's butt crack? Oh, really long. You'd have to, right?
Starting point is 01:30:08 Yeah. Terrifyingly long. I mean, Sam Mendes. Now, are these going to be? Yeah, I mean, are they like kiss-ass fucking ones or are they real ones? How about this? What if the two Beatles that are still alive get real kiss-ass movies and the other two are just destroyed?
Starting point is 01:30:27 Just John Lennon beating his wife and neglecting his children or whatever? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. Yeah. John Lennon beat his wife. I don't know if you know that. So did Ringo. John Lennon, Ringo beat John Lennon's wife.
Starting point is 01:30:38 Yep. Did Ringo really do that? Yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah, but, you know, he was a drinker and all that sort of stuff. Sure. That's okay then. It's fine stuff. Sure. That's okay then. It's fine then.
Starting point is 01:30:47 That's okay then. I thought it was okay then. Thomas the Tank Engine beat his wife. Yeah. What I'm wondering about this is will this happen? Will this get – will it be a simultaneous release like that time they were all in that room together? Or will it be like – will it be like simultaneous release like that time they were all in that room together? Or will it be like maybe they'll be all on streaming?
Starting point is 01:31:11 Because I think it would be weird. It sounds like it could be an Apple thing or whoever owns the Beatles discography. Oh, Apple now. Or is it Disney? Disney had a show recently. Oh, it might be Disney because it was Michael Jackson for a while. He owned all their masterpieces.
Starting point is 01:31:23 Yeah, he died. Oh, and there's that image of him. He's got a new movie coming out. His nephew plays him or something. That'll be a kiss-ass one as well. Yeah, yeah. But this would be interesting to do as a cinema release because then you would definitively know who's the most interesting Beatle.
Starting point is 01:31:38 True. Based on how many. Do you think they would, like, peak, though, in the first one regardless? Oh, they might, yeah. They'd probably do the Paul McCartney one first one regardless? Oh, they might, yeah. They'd probably do the Paul McCartney one first, right? Who knows? And end with Lennon?
Starting point is 01:31:49 Or maybe. I think you'd have to bookend it like that. Yeah. I don't know. How do you structure these? Because, again, John is correct in that they would all have to have the same actors coming in and out. Yeah, man. So they're all filming four movies, but would they have interconnecting scenes?
Starting point is 01:32:07 Yep. Would they be like, what if you did one that's really serious and one that's really whimsical and one that's wacky and one, you know, et cetera? Yep. Do you think they're going to go to the bit where Ringo Starr did the drums on the United States of whatever? Did he?
Starting point is 01:32:21 Yeah, man. He was involved in that. Oh, my God. I'm going to sing on this weird song that nobody remembers i remember it yeah we remember it uh so yeah i don't know i don't care about this at all let's be real but uh if they're good if they're real i'll say them yeah if it's if if this is an interesting take or it's again it maybe it is different genres what if one of them's like weird yeah weird al biography oh I would love that, yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:49 What if it's just an extended scene of the Beatles in Walk Hard? You get Jack Black and Paul Rudd and the other two. They're the Beatles, the four Beatles. I would love that. It would be incredible. I agree. Anyway, is that the show, the four Beatles? Folks, thank you so much for listening.
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