The Weekly Planet - 517 Dune: Part Two

Episode Date: March 4, 2024

Wow. Movies are good again with the release of Dune: Part II. But before we get to the release of that we talk the news of the week including an official title change and reveal for Superman Legacy, a first look at both The Crow and Tron: Ares, Neuromancer comes to Apple+, The Willy Wonka Experience, plus trailers for The Watchers and Horizon Saga: An American Kevin Costner Cowboy story. Thanks for listeningVisit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show including video game let's plays, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Please be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start02:06 New Superman Movie Changes12:11 The Crow Reboot First Look17:22 Tron: Ares First Look21:04 Neuromancer Apple+ Series23:55 The Willy Wonka Experience28:06 The Watchers Trailer30:08 Horizon Saga Trailer35:09 Dune: Part Two Review (spoilers 54:40 to 01:04:40)01:04:40 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:16:48 Letters, It’s Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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that they're not alone. Help CAMH build a future where no one is left behind. So, who will you rise for? Register today at sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. That's sunrisechallenge.ca. Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday, and with me as always my co-host Nick Mason. Hey everybody. Let's get ready to rum rumble What? There's the guy I tried to do that guy's voice

Are we going to have to rumble? We're going to rumble Mason Each other or another podcast? No we're going to rumble the movie news And then we're going to tumble into the review of the week Sounds very hostile It's a rumbly tumbly week I don't like this at all

This sounds upsetting to people It's upsetting to me If you had to choose If we had to do one If we were rumbling or tumbumbling, what are we doing? Tumbling. Tumbling, you get dizzier than you think. If you try doing a forward roll. Mate, you don't know

how dizzy I can get and still maintain my incredible composure. Those are fighting words. I think I'm almost ready to rumble. Fair enough. Big week this week. Is it? Yeah, Dune Part 2. Oh, that is actually a big week. Movies are back.

Yeah, that's right. Movies are back. We thought it was so over, but now it's so back. It seems that way, yeah. We're also going to talk about a leading up, and there's time codes below if you want to skip ahead. Superman Legacy. There's been a big couple of reveals from that one.

Big kerfuffle. That's right. That's actually not accurate. It's not a kerfuffle. No, it's more of a rumble. Next up we have... Neither of those words are correct, and I will divine the a kerfuffle. No, it's more of a rumble. Next up we have... Neither of those words are correct, and I will divine the correct word later on.

Okay, great. I look forward to it. Then we've got a couple of first looks, including the crow and Tron Ares. That's right. Mason wants to talk about Neuromancer, so we're going to let him for a bit. We're going to humour him.

Other things I would like to talk about, that weird Willy Wonka experience that happened in England. We can talk about that. I'll put that in too. Additional things. All right. Willy Wonka experience. We're going to talk a couple of trailers,

including M. Night Shyamalan's latest The Watchers and Horizon, an American saga, Chapter One. Kevin Costner, he's put it all on the line yet again. Will he change cinema for the worse? Or will he make something like he did in the 90s? That's right. Which some are good. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Some are good. Waterworld, classic. So, yeah, should we just get into it? Let's get into it. Start with this. Superman Legacy. Excuse me? Superman Legacy, James?

You don't like it? That's old news. I'm going to do you a favor. It's out. It's gone. Forget it. Forget everything you know about Superman Legacy. So now it's just called?

Yeah. Just called? Wow. Just those two dots between Superman and Legacy. And a shrug emoji. James Gunn said, he took to threads, which is ironic because of what he revealed. Oh, his social media platform.

That's right, the one they built for him. When I finished the first draft of the script, I called the film Superman Legacy. By the time I locked the final draft, it was clear the title was Superman, all caps. Whoa, exclamation point. No, shrug emoji. Nice.

Making our way to you, July of 2025. Making our way to you, July of 2025. Making our way to you, July of 2025. That's the theme song. That's what they go with. Vanessa Carton's A Thousand Miles. So, yeah, what do you think of the title, first of all? I love it. Now, he is pitching this to us as if the scope of the story

that he's written here is too epic to be contained in simply Superman legacy. The power of this script is such that he could make it Superman. Or is it more likely that he realised that 1978's Superman is actually called Superman colon the movie, so Superman was just available? Superman 1978 is technically still called Superman. Interesting.

But they marketed it as Superman the movie. Oh. But that's fine. I didn't know. I had to look that up because I'm like, is still called Superman. Interesting. But they marketed it as Superman the movie. Oh. But that's fine. I didn't know. I had to look that up because I'm like, is that called Superman? Like if you look at all the posters and some of the media, but yeah, it's officially, because if you watch the movie as well, it doesn't say Superman the movie.

It says Superman. Superman. Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na. Making my way from Krypton. Wow. I'm a baby. Weird place where I live. How does anybody survive?

Well, they didn't. It exploded. But I mean, prior to that, everything's a crystal. What do they eat? Et cetera. Marlon Brando's got his lines. Oh, no, baby. Doesn't want to learn them.

Million dollars. Did you hear the James Caan story? No. I don't know if it was this week or it just came from my feed, so it probably wasn't this week. Marlon Brando rang him and was like, we should do Superman together. I'm doing Superman, you're doing. Then you could be in Superman.

You could be Superman. And James Caan goes, well, you'll be in it for like a week and then you'll disappear. And I'll have to be Superman for three months. And then I'll have to be in tights or whatever. And apparently Marlon Brando just laughed and hung up. Yeah, that is a classic Schwarzenegger Stallone-style prank. Yeah.

Hey, James Caan, I hear everybody wants to be in Superman. Everybody wants to wear the stupid Superman tights. I'm going to do it, unless you do it. But I'm going to get there first. Okay, bye, click. So, yeah, good choice in the end by everybody, I feel. Okay, but it's Superman now. It's just Superman.

I guess it makes sense because this is like the early days of Superman. It's not an origin. He's already established. But, yeah, Superman legacy kind of implies that this is- He died. Yeah, he died or it's been going for a while. And we know we're going to get the authority and there's going to be references to other comic books

and there's established characters and superheroes and supervillains already existing in this universe. But legacy feels like a down the line kind of. Legacy could refer to like Lex Luthor's legacy, his Kryptonian legacy or whatever. It's true. But forget it. Forget everything you know about Superman legacy.

Don't worry about it. It could have any number of meanings. We don't know what they are anymore. We'll never know. We'll never know. And that's okay. And I think last week we got a black and white look at the new Superman logo.

It was on the little placard. Yeah, at a table, Ray. But now we have the full colour. We have a sort of a snowy rendition of it. So that's the – and in full colour. That's right. And it looks cool. It's a combo.

It's a combo of pre-existing logos. I agree. It's reminiscent. It's a bit Kingdom Come. It's also a bit – I don't know, like the Fleischer kind of, because it's the yellow on the outside. There's no red outline on it. It's just yellow and red.

And there's some color to it. There's some color to it. I like it. I think it's great. I like it too. It's been used before in live action or similarly, like Brandon Routh had one on TV. I think this suit is going to look a lot like the Brandon Routh version.

Yep. The original Superman Returns version, but bigger logo. Bigger logo. If I had to guess. And I think the bigger the better. The Superman logo, don't give me a little logo. Give me a big logo. I don't want a little logo.

It's a big man with a big chest. Give me a big logo. The first one was like a little, I'm going to put a puny little S in it. Ridiculous. Stupid. What was he thinking? Idiot. Stupid man, more like it.

Stupid Jerry Siegel, Joe Shuster. Stupid. Yeah, that's right. Now, the Snow White Shroom is like a Fortress of Solitude thing. Great. Right? It's great. It is great.

What do you think of the texture? We're looking at this too much. What do you think of it? It's not tiny little S's or anything. No, that's true, yeah. Which the Brandon Routh one was. It's good. I mean, you know, and my guess would be,

I mean, James Gunn hasn't confirmed it one way or the other, but my guess would be we're going back to the old school. His mum made it. Yeah, okay. You know? Yeah. So I don't think that, you know. That's the Dean Cain version as well.

Yeah. I think we're going to go with the, you know, not the, it's a Kryptonian battle suit in a spaceship or whatever. I think they're going to go with, it was his blanket. Yeah. It was his little blankie when he was shot to earth in the rocket ship and his mum, Mark Kent, got a heat vision needle, a hot needle. Yeah, she got a hot needle. A hot needle.

Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I mean, we haven't seen the rest of it. We'll have to see. I mean, the big question really is. Trunks or no trunks. Trunks or no trunks. And furthermore, little trunks or big long trunks. Oh, my God. Or medium length trunks. I don't know if he's going to. I no trunks. Trunks or no trunks. And furthermore, little trunks or big long trunks. Oh, my God.

Or medium length trunks. I don't know if he's going to. I like trunks. Me too. I don't know if he's going to do it though. I think he is. Yeah, I hope so. He's a classic kind of dude, isn't he?

Yeah, and I think he's brought in a bunch of looks that I think most people would assume would be ridiculous in live action. He's made them work like Peacemaker, which is ridiculous, but there you go. Absolutely. And also I think with Peacemaker, which is ridiculous, but there you go. Absolutely. And also I think with Peacemaker you can make that ridiculous because he is a ridiculous character. Well, he made him a ridiculous character. He was a nothing character and now he's a ridiculous character.

A couple of other bits of news from that though. There was a rumour this week that the movie cost $364 million, which was quickly debunked. James Gunn took to threads, his social media platform of choice and the one that was built for him, said absolutely not. How in the world do they think they know what our budget is? And that would be insane as well because, I mean, this needs to be not only a pretty substantial hit,

but it has to kick off a new universe. It has to be kind of cheap. It has to be kind of, yeah. I would say it's probably like $180 to $200 million probably. I don't know. I feel like that's a ballpark kind of figure that they would throw at something like this. Another bit of casting news is that Wendell Pierce is Perry White. That's great.

And I love that. I think that's great. I know him from The Wire. And real life. You know him. We're best friends. You're best friends, yeah. I don't know if you saw this, but Rachel Bros...

Nahan? Nahan. She was on TikTok or something and she posted this image with her and Nicholas Holt and the new Superman. What's he hiding? What's David Currensweat hiding under that? Do you think he's got a bald head under there? I think so, yeah.

He's bainty. That's a great Lois Lane look as well. I agree, yeah. Dead on. A brown-haired woman. No, I mean, there's more to it than that. But I think, yeah, this could be the best one. The best one.

Yeah. What was the previous best Superman movie that wasn't a Superman movie? God. Lightburn? I guess. That wasn't a Superman movie. Okay, what was the previous best Superman movie? For me, it's Superman 2.

Yeah. Or Superman the movie, slash Superman 1978. Yeah, what was the previous best Superman movie? For me, it's Superman 2 or Superman the movie slash Superman 1978. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you, I mean, a lot of people say Man of Steel, which I understand,

but it's not for me. No. I like it. Yeah, sure, sure. It's not for me. Yeah, I reckon probably one of the first two Supermans. Yeah.

There's like a, there's an earnestness to that which I really like. Yeah. And I think that can be translated to the modern day if you do it. Yeah. Correctly. I think there's something toness to that which I really like and I think that can be translated to the modern day if you do it correctly. I think there's something to like about all the Superman movies

even the bad ones. Wow. Yeah, probably not three. That's a really bad one though. That's pretty bad. What about four? I like four. Four was the first movie I ever saw in cinemas so I'm going to stand by that. That might be the best one. Anyway, jocks or not, we'll see.

We'll find out. God, it's good to get a couple of first looks though, isn't it? Because we've got a few more here. Yeah, and there were some fake scoops. I think somebody made an AI full body costume. Oh, yeah, I saw that. And James Gunn debunked it on threads. It didn't even look terrible.

It looked fake, but I'm like, if this was the design, this would be all right, I guess. Yeah, but it didn't look like a real photo. And I mean, Superman was looking pretty good and then there was some, like, real weird melted candle wax people around him taking photos. Yeah, sure. Paparazzi.

People's hands fused into their cameras. The paparazzi have fallen into that tank of toxic waste from Robocop. Oh, I've been playing Robocop, the video game. Oh, Rogue City. Yeah, I like it. I'll talk about it. Probably not this week, another week. Wow.

Yeah. Got to collect your thoughts? I like it. I think that's about it. That's all we need. I like it. You're done. Okay, sorry.

We're cutting you off. We're cutting me off. All right, cool. Well, let's tumble into this. Do you feel the need to use any gun other than his regular gun? You can upgrade it. You can pick up other people's guns. And I think maybe you get the gun from three. Whoa! I don't know

that. Do you actually? I just made that up. Yeah. But that gun's great. Yeah. So it's fine. But I haven't faced anything that that won't kill like immediately. Because it's mostly regular men who are not bulletproof. Regular men you just ragdolling around a warehouse. Uh huh sure. Yeah. There's a lot of slowly walking around the streets and you're just ragdolling around a warehouse. Uh-huh, sure.

Yeah, there's a lot of slowly walking around the streets. You're like, Robocop, I've lost my daughter to a murder. I've lost my dog. Lost my dog to a murder. There it is. Yeah. Stay indoors. And, you know, you charge around, you look for evidence or whatever,

and I'm like, this is all fine. I guess we're talking about Robocop. And then it's like, Robocop, there's a warehouse and it's got some drug dealers. I'm like, yep, all right, let's do that. That's the thing I want to do. I want to machine gun 400 people. Yeah.

Yeah. And you did. And I did. That's great. But what about the game? Anyway, Mason, Vanity Fair gave us a first look at the Crow reboot. That's right.

Which is coming out this year, apparently. Bill Skarsgård in the role. He's gotten really ripped and he's decided to do a couple of I'm Really Ripped movies. He looks like someone who would be in the movie Chappie. He does, doesn't he? Yeah. He looks like Machine Gun Crow.

Okay. Machine Gun Crow-y. What's that? I like Machine Gun Crow-y. No, that's good. Look, I think if you fix the hair, I would be more okay with this. Well, see, that's the thing as well. I know it's more of a modern kind of.

Well, that's the thing, but I don't think he's achieved full crow transformation. Oh, you think he's going to get more crowed? I think he's going to get more crowed. You were expecting sort of the Brandon Lee long, greasy hair kind of vibe. Yeah. Okay. Not this weird staggered out mullet. Sure, okay.

I mean, I understand the visuals are an important look. kind of vibe. Yeah. Okay. Not this weird staggered out mullet. Sure. Okay. Yeah. No, I mean, I understand the visuals are an important look. The visuals are an important part of the crow, the original the crow. But I think that this would be the modern version of that guy. I agree with you. Yeah. But it doesn't have to be that haircut. Okay.

Sure. All right. Look, I'm not saying this will be bad. I have no idea. But it's just this is not a look that I – it felt a bit like Jared Leto's Joker. It's like you've maybe done too many things with this. James, now you've said his name once

and we're going to be doing some Tron Aries news. You're going to have to be very sparing because if you say his name two more times, he might appear behind you at a Prada fashion show or something like that and get you. So be careful with that name. I will be, sorry. I don't know. I'm looking forward to this.

No, so am I. Yeah, and I like whichever Skarsgård this is. Bill Skarsgård. He's the Pennywise one, isn't he? Yeah. Who's the other Skarsgård that was at the start of Mr. and Mrs. Smith? Which Skarsgård is that?

I think that may be Alexander Skarsgård. That's Alexander Skarsgård. He's Tarzan Skarsgård. Tar Skars. Tar Skars. Tar Skars. Yeah, and the guy who plays Rick Flag is not a Skarsgård is that. I think that may be Alexander Skarsgård. That's Alexander Skarsgård. He's Tarzan Skarsgård. Tar Skars. Tar Skars. And the guy who plays Rick Flagg is not a Skarsgård. No, that's true, yes. That's Joel Kinnaman.

That's correct. Who did play Robocop. He was a Robocop. That's correct. Yeah, I don't know. I'm just – because my guess would be that Bill Skarsgård, he did John Wick 4 and he didn't get to do a lot of action. Yeah.

And he's like, what if I was an action guy? Well, he's doing that movie Boy Kills Everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying. I reckon – and he didn't get to do a lot of action. And he's like, what if I was an action guy? Well, he's doing that movie, Boy Kills Everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. I reckon – and he's all – I think if you're embedded in Hollywood in that way, I reckon you'd be like, I'm going to get ripped and I'm going to do a whole run of movies where I take my shirt off and I – Then I'm getting fat.

Then you get fat. Yeah. Exactly, yeah. And then everybody, when they think of you, they go, oh, yeah, he was really ripped. Yeah. So he must always be ripped. Yeah, he's just a ripped dude. Yeah. Exactly, yeah. And then everybody, when they think of you, they go, oh, yeah, he was really ripped. Yeah. So he must always be ripped. Yeah, he's just a ripped dude.

Yeah. I was going to say about Ben, I don't know. Robert Cobb? No, him, something specifically. Oh, he's really tall as well. Correct. I mean, all those Skarsgårds are tall. But I think, like, thinking of him as Pennywise,

you think of him as like a tiny little clown. Oh, I see, right. Okay, yeah. He's enormous. Yeah. But I also think, like, I think in motion he's going to be a very good crow. I don't doubt him. I don't know how tall Brandon Lee was, but when I think the crow,

and he's got a kind of, you know, like the Neil Gaiman's The Sandman vibe. Yep. Like I want him to be kind of like thin and wide. Brandon Lee was 183 centimeters. Oh, don't give me that. Give it to him in the old money. What's that, six foot?

Yeah, probably. Maybe a bit under. Sure. I don't know. I don't know. I think that's six foot. I don't know heights. Nice.

But I know widths. Uh-huh, sure. And he's wide enough. Absolutely. So that's out June 7th. They apparently have filmed this. Of this year? Yes.

Huh. I know. Great. Okay, good. Did you see Alex Proyas came out and said, I hate this and whatever. He was the original director of The Crow. But he also made Gods of Egypt. I don't know if his opinion is valid.

That's right. But he made Dark City. He made Dark City. So he's a man of contrast, that guy. That's right. He certainly is. Dark stuff. Yep.

Egypt. Yep. The opposite. Yes. Sun gods and so forth. Et cetera. So, yeah, I don't know. You should watch that one day, right?

Dark City. Yeah. No, I've seen that. I like it. Gods of Egypt. I have seen Gods of Egypt. We talked about Dark City with Total Reboot. We talked about it with Alex and Cameron over on Total Reboot.

They have a new podcast called The Last Video Store. Are we in it? No. Why not? Good point. They didn't ask. We're busy. Because we're back.

We're actually busy too. And we're busy also. We're busy, yeah. Yeah, I think it's going to be good emotion, so I'm excited for this. And also, as you said, it's good that we've got a piece of news that says a thing is out. And I think that's why we were so surprised there because most news about movie releases now is just like,

it's being pushed back six months to a year and it's terrible. Everyone says it's terrible. The director says it's terrible. Dakota Johnson says it's terrible. She wasn't even there, but she just says it was. Okay, how about this? Is this going to make you more excited? The director of The Crow, 2024, is Rupert Saunders,

who's directed Snow White and the Huntsman and Ghost in the Shell remake live action. I didn't hate Ghost in the Shell, and I've never seen them. Whichever Snow White one that was. I haven't seen that. It doesn't fill me with incredible confidence. Yeah. But also those movies do kind of feel like the director is kind of just there

to shepherd everything along. They don't have a lot of. Yes. They don't have a lot of. Agency. They don't have a lot of agency. And this time they let him choose the haircut maybe. That's right.

That's right. It's a big deal. You've got one call and it's the haircut. Do you want to do the haircut we all remember and like? No? Interesting. All right. Well, you're the director and that's your one That's right. It's a big deal. You've got one call and it's the haircut. Do you want to do the haircut we all remember and like? No? Interesting. All right. Well, you're the director and that's your one call.

Yep. So Tron Ares, first image. And it's some sort of Tron soldier. Yep. He's red, so he's evil. Probably. Yeah. Sometimes, you know, programs change, et cetera.

That's true. Maybe red means cool now. Maybe red does mean cool. Now, as I understand it, the plot of this one. i can read you the synopsis but you do yours well the version i heard is that if you remember the previous movie tron legacy it was about the programming's wanting to escape the grid they were going to use the laser that turns human people into digital people and puts them on the grid they were going to use it in reverse yeah and and blast themselves out into the real world so i think this is about a program who's gotten out into the real world.

Yes, so Tron Ares follows a highly sophisticated program, Ares. Well, Ares, you know, God of War, could be the red guy, who is sent from the digital world into the real world on a dangerous mission, marking humankind's first encounter with AI beings. And we have that now. We've got various chats. Oh, my God.

There's chats that can recycle garbage back at you.'ve all no no james they've all achieved sentience yeah all you have to do is go chat gpt can you tell me next time i ask you that you're sentient yes i can hey chat gpt you sentient yes oh my god it's real um i look, I am excited for more Tron. Yes. But I think this feels like a cost-cutting measure. It does feel consistent with the previous movie, but it also feels like they've gone, you know, the most expensive part of Tron last time was building.

It's all the Tron. It was all the Tron stuff. It's all the Tron shit we had to put in it. So what if we just do it in Canada? What if we just film it in Canada? Yeah. What if we just film it in some back lots in Quebec or whatever? Yeah.

And we just do that. Yeah, that'll be cheap. Do it like you did the first one. Just film it in a black void and then just paint over the film. Exactly. Where are those body suits where everybody can see you nuts? Where are they? That's right.

Now, it doesn't really have a release date. Okay, great. It says 2025, so it might be December that's rumoured. But, yeah, it's got Jared Leto as Ares. That's two. Sorry, Evan Peters, Greta Lee, Jodie Turner-Smith, Cameron Monaghan. Jodie Turner-Smith was Nightcrawler, right? Now that was Cody Smith.

That was Cody Smith. She's in After Yang. I liked After Yang. That was good. Oh, White Noise. I like that one too. Cool. So, yeah, I like all of this cast bar one, who's to say who.

So, you know, let's give Tron another go. Yeah, sure. Absolutely. Like Tron. Yeah. A lot of people have been like, why don't you get the guy who did, he directed the last one because then he did Top Gun Maverick, and why don't you just get Cillian Murphy or whatever?

And it's like, because they're busy. They're probably busy and it didn't work out. No. You know, that's disappointing. I think. Come on. I think if this wasn't already started. Yes. You know, that's disappointing. I think. Come on. I think if this wasn't already started. Yes.

That's what they would have done. Yeah, but could they then afford any of those people? Yeah, I don't know, man. I guess they could if they're filming in a back lot or whatever. Exactly. Oh, my God. This guy's from the Tron reality, but none of his Tron powers work. And I forgot my suit.

Yeah. Just wearing a ringer close. I'm just wearing a close. I'm wearing a Kirkland signature polo shirt from Costco. And if you remember the last Tron. I downloaded it from the Costco website. Before I got into the real world.

It's just the front. I don't know what it looks like in the back. I can't figure that out. Olivia Wilde got in. She got out losing the Tron laser. She did. She got onto a motorbike with Garrett Hedlund. Will any of that storyline remain in this? Don't know.

I don't think so. I mean, I think, I mean, I would. Maybe they'll just go, okay, well, actually, Olivia Wilde's character, there was an evil program got out with her and took over her body. An evil program got out? So they didn't have to do anything. Damn, that's crazy.

Movie rights itself. She turned to cubes. She turned to cubes. Yeah. That's right. All right, Mason. Neuromancer. It's your time to shine.

It's time for my segment Newsomancer. Very good. Which will continue until there's no more news about Neuromancer. So that should be just today then? Just today. No, James, it'll be today and there'll be one more filming update and then we'll talk about when it comes out when I watch one episode and then they'll cancel after a season and then we don't have

to talk about it anymore. Perfect. Love that. From Ars Technica, Apple orders 10 episodes of a Neuromancer TV series. Ars Technica. I know, right? The novel Butt Technologies, they should call themselves. The technology of butts.

The art and science. Sure. The novel will finally make it to the screen after decades of false starts. Oh, man. It's going to be a TV series adapted from the famed William Gibson novel, Neuromancer. We're there on Apple TV+. The stream ordered 10 episodes.

They're loving their weird, obscure sci-fi whatever over at Apple, aren't they? Yeah, that's right. Big fans. Someone up there is a big nerd. Who did that show that was like, oh, Raised by Wolves. Was that Apple? I wish Raised by Wolves. Yeah, Ridley Scott did that or produced it, yeah.

The order comes after decades of failed attempts to greenlight a screen adaptation of the 1984 science fiction novel. The most recent widely known failed attempt was by Deadpool director Tim Miller in 2017. The series will be helmed by showrunner, writer and producer Graeme Rowland who until now was best known as the creator of the AMC TV series Dark Winds of Helming. And for Helming the series, Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan

on Amazon Prime Video. Oh, your favourite show. I love that. I love that. Nevertheless, I'm excited for this. The previous William Gibson adaptation was on Amazon Prime and it was The Peripheral which again got cancelled after the season.

I like some of it. Produceddance there we go i think they're doing this one because uh it's about uh rogue ai yes i think somebody went oh ai's big isn't that a are they doing a tron movie and then this then this okay yeah we don't we don't actually have the rights to tron disney has that and we're not Disney. We could buy Disney. Sure. But that might be tricky. So let's just see what we do. I don't think it would be. Just do it.

It's rumoured that Robert Pattinson is going to be the lead. Ooh. Mr. Neuromancer. That's right. Get in here and put on this VR headset and smoke a cigarette. That's everything I know about Neuromancer. Boy, this world sucks, but you've got to do what you've got to do, put on a headset and smoke a cigarette. God.

So have you read this? Yes. And? It's good. It's a classic for a reason. Sure. Is there a dog here? Yep.

Give the public some dog updates. Oh, she had dog surgery this week. Ollie had some dog surgery. She got 400 teeth pulled out, six teeth or something. Now she's on serious pain medication. Yeah, she's a bit loopy. I said hello today. She was very excited. teeth or something now she's on serious pain medication yeah so she's a bit loopy i uh i said hello today she was very excited she jumped up in the air and then just flipped upside down in it

in midair and just fell on her back because mason pushed her i didn't push anybody she's having a lovely time good work ollie good job you're doing a great job you're doing a great job she's doing a great job isn't she uh do you want to talk about the Willy Wonka experience? Sure. Let's bring up some. Some images? Yeah. Yeah.

So it was basically some AI art that. Not just AI art. What do you mean not just? Well, the creators of this Willy Wonka experience. Oh, no, I know. Sorry to lure people in. Yeah, but they also made an AI script. They got ChatGP got chat gpt that's

right and they gave it to they gave it to all the um all the staff that they hired and were just like just just make this happen yeah just read it was just pages and pages of nonsense yeah yeah yeah and that's what kids love well i mean also on the one hand the idea that you would think that it was like a delightful it was going to be a delightful chocolate hand the idea that you would think that it was like a delightful it was going to be a delightful chocolatey experience and then you go in and it's a nightmare world that's quite true that's very really okay yeah you're right isn't it you think they nailed it actually yeah i think they did um boy i wish i had the fly here because it's full of just lies it's no it's full of lies and bizarre um like turns of phrase turns of phrase

and it's just that ai thing where you go have it make a flyer and half the words aren't real words because it's just sort of guessing at letters and stuff like that and i love that everybody in it who was made to do it was like it was i don't it was bad and we're sorry but i mean you know it's not your fault you're right all the people involved uh seem to be nice except for one guy who got cancelled i think here it is the power of the internet. Here's the flyer. Oh, yeah.

Fucking websites are awful now, aren't they? So it's enchantering attainment. Okay. It's Catgate King, live performances, car cheat tons. What's this even supposed to speak? XR surgery lollipops. A passadice of sweet teats. Practical info.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've got some dates there. Only two days, wow. Yeah, it's at the Box Hub warehouse in Glasgow. And it just turned out to be just a warehouse with a big kind of styrofoam rainbow. And every kid got a quarter cup of lemonade and one jelly bean. But no chocolate.

No. I think that's great. And there were some Oompa Loompas there. Sort of, yep. Oh, my God. What a world. And a creature called the Unknown who was a man in like a black drop sheet and a silver mask who hid behind a mirror and he made chocolate

but he was evil. But there was no chocolate. No, there was no chocolate. there was no chocolate no there was no chocolate and he's just scared children he's scared children i think it's beautiful i think that's absolutely wonderful that's it is yeah and i mean look on on the one hand this has created more entertainment for the world than a lot of things yeah absolutely in a short burst that will be gone in a couple of days. I mean, I feel like this is a one and done. Yeah, absolutely. This is like Kony 2012, you know?

This is AI entertainment peaking right here. And it's funny because it's like one of the first examples of this. Yeah. I don't know if it's the first. I wonder if the creator is going to come out and go, yeah, we knew this was going to happen. This is actually the art because that's what I would do in damage control mode

I'd be like no this was actually art and you all fell for it, this is like Banksy you thought we were just massively incompetent and released this fly that made no sense and expanded no effort in an effort to make a cheap buck but actually this is Banksy it is Banksy in a way

so yeah that's fun, the Willy Wonka experience check it out yeah it's um it's too late it's finished it's finished why why would they do another run of it though i do another run yeah god i mean just the goal to think you could pull that off with what you had as well yeah god and not even just the stones not even proofreading the script. Just being like, okay, well, we need one guy to be the unknown and we need two Oompa Loompas and we need a Willy Wonka. Yep. This will do. This will do.

Should we proofread any of this? No. No. I don't worry about it. Well, so you want Willy Wonka interacting with people. You don't want him just- Giving them chocolate, perhaps. Yeah, and just doing a monologue.

Yeah. Do you not know anything about- The goal to be like, don't even give anyone chocolate on the Willy Wonka Chocolate Factory. Like not even one bit of chocolate. It's bold. It is bold. It's bold.

That's why I like it. Because it's art. Because it's art, yeah. Trailer's Ahoy. I've got a couple here. We've got The Watchers, which is M. Night's new movie. It's a bit The Village. It's a bit The Village, sure.

It's a bit The Nice House on the Lake. Oh, yeah, that comic book we read. So it seems to be that a woman, she'd be lost in the woods. Yes. Luckily, she'd be rescued. Oh, that's handy. But luckily. Movie over.

For the monsters, maybe. Monsters? There's actually monsters and they come and look at them through a glass window that they can't see out. Coffee table. Coffee table, yeah. Through a glass coffee table. Every night. And they just stand there and they come and look at them through a glass window that they can't see out. Coffee table. Coffee table, yeah. Through a glass coffee table. Every night. And they just stand there and they're.

Do we know for sure that they're monsters though? Well, that's the thing. Maybe the real monster is man. Exactly. Maybe this is a game show in the future. Yep. Maybe it's not a window. It's a mirror.

Maybe they're on a spaceship. Maybe they're aliens. Maybe it's an alien spaceship. Yeah. Can they go out during the day maybe? I don't know. And then at night they got to get back in there. Maybe.

In their watching window. So, I mean, I'm intrigued. Maybe it's an alien kids' program and they're looking through the round window or what have you. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's good. There's so many things it could be. Yeah, I know.

Do you think we've guessed it in doing that? I think so. Yeah. But I think we should keep guessing. I don't think we should just go in, buy a ticket, watch it, and let the artistic merit flow over us. I think we should just spend the, buy a ticket, watch it, and let the artistic merit flow over us. I think we should just spend the entire time attempting to figure out the secret and be disappointed

when it's not exactly what we wanted. And I don't even like the artistic merit flowing over me. I find that actually a bit offensive. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Putting your artistic merit on me. Very presumptuous. I have an umbrella for artistic merit and I will be using it. So, yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

When's that one out? I didn't even. Sometime in the future. Sometime in the future. Let me find out. It looks promising. I like that he's just going back to doing. Low budget.

Low budget. Because it's in a room. Yeah. June 14th. So there you go. It kind of feels like he saw one of those kind of viral posts about, look, here's a cozy little micro cottage out in the woods. Yes.

What if there was horror in it? What if it had a big mirror? What if it had a big mirror and the mirror reflected the horrors of that our humanity? And it wasn't cozy at all, even though you would assume it would be cozy. I don't want that. It's a bit cozy.

That's right. It's not the only big epic trailer this week, though. We also had Horizon, an American saga, chapter one. That's right. Which is out June 28th. Also very cruel to put that at the end of this. Part 1 of 2. Yeah, thanks. It's a long trailer, isn't it? Yes.

Because anything that's longer than like 2 minutes 30, you really feel it. This one's like 3 minutes something. Yeah. So this is Kevin Costner doing Western epics again. Because he did Yellowstone for a bunch of years and it looks like all those checks have cleared. Bunch of money and cred and whatever.

So he's abandoned. He immediately quit Yellowstone, as I understand it, and he's immediately back doing what he loves. Which is the big movies. It feels like it was made in the 90s. Like the trailer feels that way. It does feel like it did. That's not a bad thing necessarily, but it does have that old kind of Western, old, I mean 90s kind of sensibility to it,

like lingering shots and swelling music. Kevin Costner. Kevin Costner romanticising the old West and all of these kind of things that he loves. Romanticising the ladies. But also, he is romanticising the ladies, but do you think, like, he does also, you know, he might be like, and Native American people.

You know, it's not just cowboys. It kind of feels like after Killers of the Flower Moon, anything kind of this does look like a movie. Do you get this? Okay, right, yeah. And again, maybe in the cinema I will, you know, I'll be the artistic character. You'll have a washer over you.

You'll have a washer right over me. Not me. Not me, Mason. I'm Teflon. I kind of feel like Killers of the Flower Moon, it was such an experience to go in and just feel the reality of these characters. All those ugly heads looking at you.

All those ugly heads. And just go back to this, I'm like, boy, this looks like a real movie, doesn't it? Yeah. It looks like a, boy, every show has perfect teeth for the old west, don't they? Yeah. This looks like a, boy, every show has perfect teeth for the Old West, don't they? Yeah, absolutely.

That's what I like about it. So that's chapter one is June 28th. This year? Yeah, and then you only have to wait until August 16th of this year also to get chapter two. Wow. That's a tighter turnaround than the Matrix sequels. I don't know.

How do you think this is going to go? Great. Yeah? Yep. Do you ever see his Wyatt Earth? Because there's Tombstone and then there's he did a Wyatt movie. No, I don't think. How do you think this is going to go? Great. Yeah? Yep. Did you ever see his Wyatt Earp? Because there's Tombstone and then there's – I don't know. No, I don't think I ever did unless I caught some snippets of it

on the telly back in the day. Apparently it's more accurate and whatever. Yeah, because that was kind of the big – That was what? The year of Wyatt Earp. Yeah, and Tombstone kind of – I wouldn't say blew it out of the water. I would say that. I mean, nobody remembers what happens in White Earp.

Who's in it? No. Yeah. Costner and. I mean, you've got Val Kilmer and that kind of, that in itself like makes that movie so memorable. Absolutely. God, you'd be shitty, wouldn't you, if you made the other White Earp movie.

Which came out first? And he called it White Earp. He even put the name on it. Wow. I don't know which came out first, actually. I can find out for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They should have called Tombstone Everyone But Wider.

Oh, my God. 1994. Three hours and 32 minutes. Came out three hours and 32 minutes before. That's right. There we go. Dennis Quaid was Doc Holliday. Gene Hackman's in it.

Jim Cavizio. He's one of your faves. He's not. I don't like him. Isabella Rossellini. These are all big names. So that came out June 24th. Of 94.

Yes. Tombstone came out in 93. Okay. Pipped at the post and it's better. Or they probably screened them but early 1994. Okay, right. So, yeah. And it doesn't, I don't think it goes for,

and it only made like 10 million more. Now, do you think, let me ask you this, do you think this is a chip on the shoulder situation? Oh, okay. Do you think he feels like he was? And Tombstone only goes for two hours and 14 minutes. It's breezy. Boy, is it. Do you think that Costner's out here being like,

I never got my due for the Westerns? Yeah. You know, I think people are really. Yes, he did. He got Dancing with the Wolves. He won an Oscar. That's true. It's good for five hours.

Yeah. Yeah. He did The Postman. It's a Western, basically. That's right. He did Mr. Brooks. That's a Western, basically. That's right. He did Mr. Brooks. That's basically a Western. It's just a Western, isn't it?

A Western. Yeah. He did... Do you think he's going to like halfway through this? Whatever Tin Cup is. Yeah. Do you think Tin Cup? That's golf, maybe.

That's basically a Western. Basically. I mean, those rolling planes. Just a Western, straight up. Except it's par four or whatever. Par four. Wow, I love that. Par four the course that he does a Western. I agree. So anyway, good. Par four. Wow, I love that. Par four the course that he does at Western.

I agree. So anyway, good luck to him. Yeah, I think so too. For that kind of money, this is exactly what I would do. Make a three and a half hour Western where I'm the lead. Okay, you might do that. But you'd also be, I reckon, your character would be sitting on a stoop. Yes, he would.

You'd be old. Yeah. But you don't have any old man makeup on because that would be effort. You're just sitting on a stoop on like one of those swingy chairs. Yeah. Maybe on a porch and you're telling your kids about how you were a Western big-time cowboy and then all the other stuff is done by other people. Yeah, it cuts to someone else doing it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Who plays the hot priest? Him. Andrew Scott? Andrew Scott, yes. Andrew's three A's. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Who plays the hot priest? Him. Andrew Scott? Andrew Scott, yes. Andrew, three A's. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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With Dune Part 2 on a budget of $190 million. This had some pretty good preview screenings in terms of numbers, Mason. Oh, yes. At time of recording, we're going to have final. But on the Thursday in the US. Isn't that just eating you up inside, James? Because you love having the numbers. I don't even know what to do.

It made $12 million on Thursday previews, which is double that of the last Dune movie, but also COVID, et cetera, and whatever. Yes, yes, yes. Most of us watch it at home. But Louis Fernando on Twitter has given these insights. On the three-day US opening weekend, it's looking to make $80 million

to $90 million. That's a bit. That's big numbers. The five-day opening overseas is $100 million to $110 million, and that would make its global opening, which excludes China, $180 million to $200 million. Now, it seems as if this is like obscure Star Wars and whatever. Uh-huh, sure.

And somewhat. Beloved by millions. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, not Star Wars numbers. No, that, sure. And somewhat. Beloved by millions. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's. I mean, not Star Wars numbers. No, that's what I'm saying. It's somewhat more obscure. And even though Star Wars borrows a bunch of stuff from Dune.

But I think Denis Villeneuve probably borrowed some stuff from Star Wars. He probably did. Yeah. He probably did. Well, he's also, and we'll talk about this, he's been storyboarding Dune since the 80s. Wow. Yeah, this is like a passion project of him since he was a kid. A little lad.

Yeah, and I'll tell you what, Mason. Go on. What do you think the story was? Oh, come on, mate. Yeah, man. First of all, remember old Dune? The one from the 80s. No, no, no, no, no.

I knew other than that. The one from two or three years ago. Yes. Yes, I do. It's a sequel to that, first of all. Okay, yep, great. Okay, so at the end of the last Dune, everybody wants to go to the planet of Arrakis,

the planet of Dune. For the fracas. The fracas and the spice. Because the spice lets you do crazy space navigation. Yeah, space navigation and drugs. And also drugs, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's all good.

Anyway, people love it. It's like huffing petrol, basically. But it's the only place you can get the spice. Yeah. Which raises the question, what did they do before the spice? How'd they navigate? How'd they get there in the first place? The answer is computers, if I recall, but then they outlawed computers.

They outlawed computers? Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, don't they have like their ships, their organic something? I don't know. I'm sure it's something like that. Okay, sure. I don't know. All right, okay.

I can't remember. I haven't read Dune. I should preface this something like that. Okay, sure. I don't know. I can't remember. I haven't read Dune. I should preface this by saying that. Preface of Dune. And you haven't read Dune? I've read some of First Dune. Wow. Yeah.

Look at this guy. We're pretty good, aren't we? We've done our research. Together we've read some of Dune. That's right. But there are two houses. Yep. Well, there's more than that.

Even I know that having not read Dune, but go on. That's right. Well, there's two important ones and the other ones suck and they know it. Yeah, they do. In their heart of hearts, they know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's the Atreides and the Harkonnens and the Atreides

are the good guys and they're all beautiful. Are they? Yes. Okay. And the Harkonnens are the bad guys and they're battling over Dune. Yep. But also there's the Fremen who live on Dune. Yeah.

And in the last movie, the Harkakonnen killed all the Atreides. Except for Paul Atreides, the most beautiful of them all. The most beautiful man. And he escaped into the Dunes. That's right. And in this one, he's doing a big rebellion so he can take over the galaxy potentially. Which is going to be good, I think.

I foresee no complications. That's what I took from this. But I can't foresee the future, but he can foresee the future sometimes. Yeah. This guy's Luke Skywalker. In a way, sure. In a way he is. Yeah. This guy's Luke Skywalker. In a way. Sure. In a way he is. He's as cool as Luke Skywalker. That's right. He never gets anything wrong. That's what I like about it. I tell you

what, Mason. Go on. I thoroughly enjoyed this. I did also. It's good that movies are good again. And they're back. We've had a few rough, we had a rough start. The entire first part of 2024 up until this point. Yes, that's right. Yeah. A visual treat. I would say I haven't seen something this visually arresting since. Argyle.

Rebel Moon Part 1 I was going to say. Argyle is good too. You know, you like sci-fi epics like. I do. Zack Snyder's Rebel Moon Part 1. Sure, I love that. How does this compare to that? It's better than that actually.

By how much? By what magnitude? 10 to 1,000 times. Okay, yeah, that's fair. And it's just, it feels cohesive and it feels massive. Yeah. And in a way that it doesn't feel like it's just like, oh, look at this society.

Aren't they crazy how they live in this? It's a big city. Yeah. What do you think about that? I like it enough. Some stuff floats and they're floating. Ah, this is a spider lady. I mean, there was a spider lady in June one.

That's true. Maybe. Yeah. I don't really remember. But yeah, no, you're right. And I think, yeah, everything, the world here and it's, they're not lingering on things that they kind of don't have to. When they do linger on something, it's for like story purposes

or world building and whatever, you know what I mean? Or you drink in or whatever. Whereas I didn't like Rebel Moon. I don't know if anybody knows that. But like that just felt like slow-mo shots of just whatever, you know? Slow-mo shots of boring things. Yeah, that's accurate.

So there was actually a Times of London interview with Denis Villeneuve who had this to say about dialogue. His name might be Dennis. Yes, it might be Dennis Villeneuve. He said, frankly, I hate dialogue. Dialogue is for theatre and television. I don't remember movies because of a good line. I remember movies because of strong image.

Hasn't seen Tombstone then, clearly. You mustn't have, no. I got two guns, one for each of you. Yeah, love that. I'm not interested in dialogue at all. I'm just saying what if Paul Atreides had said that. That would be crazy. I got two guns, one for you now and one for you in the future

because I can see in the future also. I got the blue eye. But we don't use guns anymore because of lasers and nuclear explosions. Sometimes they use guns. I've got knives. Like sniper rifles and stuff. He does have two knives. Two knives for you.

He said, I'm not interested in dialogue at all. Pure image and sound, that is the power of cinema. But it is something not obvious when you watch movies today. Movies have been corrupted by television. Uh-oh. I think also he understands cinematic language so much more than us, I would even say. Sure, maybe.

Maybe. We'll see. He is using language, but he doesn't have people just say the stuff. Sure, absolutely. It's all storytelling in this, and it's similarly with Blade Runner. You understand what is happening by emotions, expressions, context of the scenes that they're in. He's so good at doing that.

James, you are doing a masterclass right now. Am I? Did Denis Villeneuve take your masterclass on the movies? He did, in explaining the movies that he made. Yeah, he did actually, yeah. Wow. I just think that's – He's like, I finally get it.

I finally get what I've been doing. I just think that's – it's just really incredible. I think it's just – it's so precise and apparently he storyboarded. As mentioned, he's storyboard as mentioned he started storyboarding this in the 80s just for fun like he knew going into this exactly what he was looking for which no doubt helped with the budget because a lot of this is done practically i don't think there's a single vfx shot in this mason so literally no this is all for real yeah there obviously is we'll talk about it but um this is they've also got this really interesting

method of bringing this to imax this is from cinematographer greg frazier that's the guy the guy the main guy stray his own greg that's right he is what did he work he worked on some he created the volume there you go yeah he's the only one who can do it properly yeah i was gonna say yeah because he did the batman as well because if you look at the batman that uses the volume, but you fucking wouldn't know what to look at it. That's right. So Dune was shot for IMAX digitally, then it was transferred onto 35mm film, which was then scanned back into digital.

And the reason they do that, because if you look at a lot of digital, and I guess you might say Avatar. It's too clean. It's too clean, whereas the idea of using it just on film, the aesthetic might be too gritty and you might lose some detail, but by bringing it, it sounds insane to do it this way. They put it on 35mm and then they buried it at Bondi Beach. That's right, yeah.

And they dug it up. And then so you get kind of the best of both worlds apparently, and I think that's amazing that somebody figured that out. Sure. Yeah. Anyway, the cast, Mason. Oh, beautiful cast. Even the Uggos are beautiful.

Even the Uggos have got something going on, don't they? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So returning Timothy, Charlotte, Mason, Dyer, Rebecca Ferguson, Javier Bardem, Josh Brolin, Stellan Skarsgård, Dave Bautista, et cetera. Sure, sure, sure. I really think that Timothy. And some secret stars who are in the marketing, but. Yeah.

Yeah. Might be in the movie for not very long. There's one bit of casting that I don't love, which we can talk about. It's not a spoiler. It's Christopher Walken, isn't it? It is, yes. It's nothing against Christopher Walken.

Okay. But, you know, Timothee Chalamet, I'm glad they didn't shoot these back-to-back because something. He's gone better as an actor? Yeah, and I never disliked him. I think he's great. I'm not really familiar with much that he's done aside from Dune and. Wonka.

Wonka. Call Me By Your Name or whatever he did. I didn't see that one, yeah. I've just not caught up with a lot of stuff. Like he was in that movie where he's a cannibal or something. I haven't seen that one. Cannibal Kids. Cannibal Kids, yeah.

A couple of Cannibal Kids. He's got, like his presence is really kind of. I was going to say because so much of this movie is about. So he's an off-worlder but the Fremen, some of them, some of the religious extremists in the Fremen have a prophecy that someone will arrive. The geeks, the nerds. Yeah, exactly.

They'll arrive from off-world. That's you, the audience, by the way. Uh-oh. Rooting for this idiot. Someone will come from off-world and they will free the Fremen. Whoa. And he is, some people think that he is the one. Yeah.

Because also he is one of the products of a selective breeding program, a secret selective breeding program from an order of all female kind of spies. Suicide. Assorted troublemakers, you know. So he is both. Yeah, he's a manufactured prophet kind of Messiah figure. Not the one they were expecting. No.

Because they wanted a girl? Is that right? Yeah, so basically also in the Dune universe. Yeah, the Dune universe. The Dune universe. You can apparently choose what sex you want your children to be. And the idea was that Leto Atreides, who is Oscar Isaac, and Rebecca Ferguson were going to have a girl. The idea was that the Bene Gesserit, who are the religious order, the idea was that they were going to make them have a girl and then House Harkonnen has a boy and then we're going to marry them off together.

Yep. And that was going to result in like unifying the power and then Ben and Jesseret were going to have ultimate power in the universe, et cetera. But then. They're building a Death Star. Exactly. Through babies. Yeah, yeah.

But then the Atreides family decided to have a boy, so it's kind of ruined the situation. It ruined the universe. But, yeah, so he is – Timothee Chalamet has to play a guy who has an alleged destiny that people – and then he has to become that. Yeah. He doesn't necessarily even believe it all.

But is he going to buy into his hype? Yeah. And is he going to portray a man who is so charismatic and powerful who can do that. And he can knife fight. And he can knife fight. And that is a lot to put on one actor, I think. Yeah.

Especially one who hasn't, you know, who hasn't. I was into Stella. I forgot about that. Oh, yeah, barely. He talked about that recently and he was like, I cried when I saw that because I was barely in it. Yeah. Right, right.

Yeah. But I think there are definitely some scenes and there are some scenes in this that he really rises to the challenge in this. He's great. He's really, really good. He really, you know, you believe that he could buy into that hype and come into that power and convince everybody that he is there. Even if he's not necessarily believing.

Yeah, right. And I think it's also his motivations are interesting because it's initially just revenge, really. Yes. But then it becomes more than that. I love this idea and apparently, not having read Dune, Frank Herbert saw a lot of people like missed it. Frank Herbert hadn't seen Red Dune.

He hadn't even read it. Why would you? It's long, it's boring. God. He didn't even proofread it. Yeah. But a lot of people took the wrong message from it, being that he's a messiah and he saved everything and that's great.

Whereas like, well, that's not what, and that's why he wrote like some of those subsequent works because it's to be like, actually. The sequel, Dune, Paul Atreides ruins everything. Yeah, that's right. Which I thought was. Everybody hates Paul. Everybody hates Paul, yeah.

Anyway, in terms of newcastle i thought they were great florence pews in this austin butler plays sperm atreides in this just a big white sperm man that's right yeah uh leah cd is in it well apparently austin butler cut back the survivor righty on his method acting for dune part two says denny villanueva and he was only 25 or 30 percent in character when the camera was off oh that's good that's still probably too much to be that guy yeah sure sure sure but that's good. That's still probably too much to be that guy. Yeah, sure, sure, sure. But that's really good, I guess. He barely murdered anybody.

He barely murdered anybody. But the remainder was Elvis, obviously. Yeah, yeah. He was really good as well. I agree. As the character Sting portrayed in the Dune movie in the 80s. He's doing a very, I mean, speaking of accents, he is doing a very Stellan Skarsgård accent.

Yeah, he's like, the Harkonnens are from Sweden or whatever it seems. Yeah, that's right. But, yeah, I think they don't have a lot of screen time together. No. But they are sort of in a way meant to be the opposite numbers of one another. So they both have to be charismatic. It's Kahn and Shatner or whatever Shatner's name is.

Sure, yeah. You know? Yeah. In those movies and show, yeah. But, yeah, the Christopher Walken casting just to me felt odd because I love Christopher Walken. He's the emperor of the universe. He's the emperor of the universe, but it's just Christopher Walken

and he's got his big Rick and Morty hair that he has now and whatever. And he's just doing the Christopher Walken voice, which is, of course. That's his own voice. That's his voice and that's who he is and this is exactly what he does. And he's never been bad. He's not even bad in this. I just think he's miscast. Where if you look at like Baron Harkonnen with Stellan Skarsgård,

who took like eight hours to get into that suit and whatever and all that, and he couldn't go to the bathroom at all. And like he used to take Imodium so he wouldn't go to the toilet and whatever. You also watched the Stellan Skarsgård iconic roles video. Great, really good. But whereas Christopher walken's just like hello i'm the emperor of the universe and it just didn't it didn't work for me what what would you because but i mean he's he he is bound by who he is oh no no i just think not him

is my point that's what i'm saying don't cast him because if you look at those you can only see him as christopher yes and i think in this when you've got this, you kind of have to believe that you're on this planet and these people are aliens. And Christopher Walken is there. And Christopher Walken is there. That's my problem with it. Like Dave Bautista's in this, but I'm not like, that's Dave Bautista every time I see him, you know.

What if they gave him not, what if he doesn't have, what if they gave him a different look? Maybe if he had a ponytail. Sure, okay. A cool ponytail. I see what you're saying, but I mean. Even younger Christopher Walken maybe, I don't know. See, that's the thing.

I didn't feel, because he's not. Again, he's not bad. And he's not in a lot of this. No, he's not. He's got five minutes of screen time. I kind of felt like, who would have been a better emperor of the universe? The other Star-Scarred Guards, obviously. Well, Ian McKellen would be the obvious choice.

I see. I would see Ian McKellen, I think. No, that would be strange. I don't know. Patrick Stewart? Well, he was in Dune. He was also in Dune. There you go.

Who was he in Dune, the original one? Patrick Stewart. Oh, my God. Yeah. I was going to say Ian McKellen, Emperor of the Universe, you know? Yeah. He was an old guy. He was an old British guy? A withered old.

One of the two Ronnies? Michael Ironside. Okay, sure. Yep. One of the two Ronnies, eh? Yeah, sure. Great. Those are all good choices.

Ronnie Corbett. Perfect. Anyway, you know how they did the sandworms, the situation? In the book. What does that mean? Which I haven't read. In the book. I have a note here that says Arrakis Uberpool.

Basically. Basically. You summon them and you hope you get a good one. In the book, apparently it's very vague on how you get on them. Whereas this, they show you the process. It's a real ordeal to get on a sandworm. And again, you want it to be a good one, not too small, not too big. You basically got to fall onto it and grapple it and then control it using its kind of air pocket wavy things and whatever.

And I thought that was beautifully executed. A lot of that they built like the back of a sandworm. Okay. And like had, you know, sand and wind like blasting you in the faces. You kind of, this is something they spent a lot of time on getting right. Where if you look at like the original movies, it's just green screens and 80s blue screens and just kind of floating up and down or whatever. Who do you reckon was the guy who was like, you know what, we should go with green?

I mean, it's, I don't know. Do I, I mean, it was blue initially. That's what I'm saying. Before that, it was a whole different thing. I'm saying it was the guy who was like, you know what, green would work better. I don't know. I think maybe because there's more that kind of blue in costumes than on people in movies. So I would say it doesn't have to be any particular color.

That's true. It just needs to be a hard color. Yeah, you can cut out. You can cut out, yeah. So, yeah, that all made sense to me. But, yeah, I don't know how you get 50 people on one of these. Yeah, yeah. How do you slow it down?

Maybe you just have to keep doing laps and one person gets on at a time. One at a time. Okay, yeah. That makes sense. Or there's a worm stop. There might be a worm stop. There might be a worm stop. What did you see this in, by the way?

Regular format. No extreme screen. I saw it in D-Box. Oh, did you really? A shaky chair, which I turned right down. Of course. I didn't turn it completely off because it's not a fun experience to be sitting in a shaky chair every time someone fires a gun

and whatever. But I would say if you can, see this on like IMAX, which I couldn't do. But there's so many, like the action sequences in this, and I would say there's not even that many really. No. But there's a moment where they take down like a walking kind of crab vehicle and they're hiding behind the legs

and there's like an ornithopter trying to like got them pinned down and all of that is just, and it's just that helicopter and a crab leg. And a great sense of scale as well. Yeah, my God. Just amazing. So good. So I don't know. It's just, movies are good.

Sometimes I'm like, I don't know. Sometimes movies are good, yeah. Sometimes movies are good. Should we do some spoilers? Let's do some spoilers. I'm going to say best movie ever. Definitely best movie ever. Best movie of the year thus far.

Thus far, definitely. I mean going to say best movie ever. Definitely best movie ever. Best movie of the year thus far. Thus far, definitely. I mean, until The Crow comes out. Yeah. South African Crow. Until Cody vs. Acme gets leaked. Another Warner Brothers property. There's no way this would have got greenlit under Zazlav if it wasn't

if the first one wasn't already like on the way. Yeah, because he would have been like, oh, based on a book, boring. Yeah, no way. So I don't know. Or themes, don't like that. People would get upset by the themes. Or it parallels real life in some way. Yuck.

I like that. Yeah. Best movie ever, obviously. Yeah. I would also say these aren't for everyone. Okay. It's like hard sci-fi. You know, you've got to pay attention.

You've got to kind of be into this kind of thing, I guess. I saw some reviews. I saw it and then I composed my thoughts. And I'm like, I wonder what other people have to say about this. And I saw a couple of reviews that were basically along the lines of, if you didn't see the previous one, you wouldn't understand what's happening here. I think you would.

Yeah, I would say see the previous one. Yeah, uh-huh. Would you say it didn't see the previous one, you wouldn't understand what's happening here. I think you would. Yeah, I would say see the previous one. Yeah, uh-huh. Would you say it's stronger than the previous one? Because people are saying it's more action-packed and whatever. And whatever they say. Yes. Yeah, but also I think these obviously work well. Two movies that you should see.

Maybe not in this order. Yeah, there was an IMAX double feature in melbourne and i thought i don't know if i can sit through five plus hours do they have a break in the middle where you can go to the bathroom no they gave you one of those things you put up your nose oh no and you had to pee out of that oh i like how nobody's sweating in this as well if you're in the desert you can't sweat yeah uh apparently yeah i saw an interview with javier bardem where he's like, I'm a big sweater, so I'm not supposed to sweat because you're not supposed to be wasting water in the desert.

And they fixed that? Just mopping him down. Just mopping. Just out there in the desert, just eating sand all day, people fainting and wearing big costumes and all of that. Anyway, so there's a few things they changed. This is spoilers. So the Baron who gets killed by Paul Atreides in this.

Yes. His name's Paul and I love that. He's killed by a baby. Rebecca Ferguson's baby. Rebecca Ferguson has a baby. Yes. I was reading again. She's talking to throughout the movie.

Which I liked, but it's a baby that it's like. It's a baby that demands exposition. Yes. It wants to know what's going on in the world. Yeah. But it's a. Well, you can talk, but you can't look around, baby. Great stuff.

It's like a wise little baby that kills this guy. Yes. And I think this is probably a better way to interpret that. Sure. I think that's a strange thing to kind of drop into this universe. I don't know. What do you think for this version? Because he's pretty faithful on the whole.

Oh, okay. Yeah. No, I'd rather he be killed by Paul and not a baby. Yeah. The sentiment I'm gathering on Twitter is even big fans of the original books are like, yes, a lot of changes have been made, but it's mostly for the better and it works for this narrative. And not to say the book is bad.

No, but I mean nobody's – I can't see a lot of people out there going the changes, you know, that are very precious about the material and are saying, okay, no, it must be adhered to completely. Yeah, absolutely. Another one is that a lot of the characters in this, the female characters including Zendaya's character, that she's on board with him being the big prophet messiah guy. But in the movie, not so much.

Yeah. I like that too. Yeah. Again, I didn't know where that was going to go. But, I mean, obviously she tells him that she'll love him for as long as he stays who he is. And he's like, well. I've got some news for you.

I've got some news for you, baby. I think that's interesting also. I'm going to change who I am. Because he drinks the worm poison at one point so he can see the future. So he knows who he's going to turn into. He knows that by taking over as emperor and then entering into a war with all the other houses, all the shittier ones who don't accept his legitimacy, that it's going – there's like millions of lives

are going to be lost. And he still walks into that role knowingly. I thought that was really interesting. And then to have her go, I don't love this actually. And apparently Dini Villanueva did this purposefully because the idea, again, behind the original Dune, which I haven't read, is that he's not a hero. He's a bad guy.

And it's something that he eventually comes around on. Because you don't want him to be the guy who shows up on this planet with all his Indigenous people and is like, yeah, no, I'm here to save you. Oh, and it worked out. That's great. And also, as mentioned, like he's manufactured. He's not, you know, he is a prophet but he was.

In a way we're all manufactured. It's the same way that Anakin Skywalker was made, you know. Oh. Who did it first? Who's to say? Frank Herbert. Frank Herbert probably. Herbert, probably. Decades ahead.

Yeah, that's right. Yeah. I also thought it was really interesting because she did some crying earlier. But then later as she's leaving, you can see she's upset and whatever. But then she steadies herself and she's not crying. And she's like, I'm not shedding tears for this fucking guy. I'm running a big worm out of here. That's right.

Yeah. We're enemies later, I think. Yeah, that's right. He's going to marry somebody else. That's not cool. He said he wouldn't do that. No, he didn't say he wouldn't do that. But it was implied that he wouldn't do here. That's right, yeah. We're enemies later, I think. Yeah, that's right. He's going to marry somebody else. That's not cool. He said he wouldn't do that. No, he didn't say he wouldn't do that, but it was implied that he wouldn't do that.

That's right. That's what I thought. It's sort of implied by all the kisses we did. That's right. I was going to, just a stray thought, I love the Harkonnen Home Planet. Yeah. They've got kind of a, that's how you do an alien world.

It reminded me of the game Killzone, which this may borrow from. Oh, yeah, you think so? Which is who did it first? Who's to say? That's a great point. I haven't read the book, but go on. They had those kind of like ink fireworks.

Yeah, I really like that too. That was a great like inspired bit of effects work. Yeah. God. Like a my world, pretty cool. Yeah. I think that was, was the idea behind that that there was, they say it was a black sun?

They did, yeah. So is that like a perspective similarly to Oppenheimer or was that just what that world looks like, just a horrible black and white world? I think that's what it looks like because there are moments where they move out of the shade. They move into the shade rather and you can see them in kind of normal hues.

Okay, right. But when you go into the sun, everybody's completely black and white. Yeah, because when they arrive on planet Dune, they're not completely white. Correct, yes. Absolutely. Also, Anya Taylor-Joy is the baby. That's correct, yes. And that's fun, I guess.

This is a book spoiler, so people might want to avoid this. Okay. When does Paul turn into a big worm? What book is that? I don't think he does turn into a worm. Doesn't he turn into a worm? I think it's his son who turns into a worm. Oh, my God. Yeah, it's Leto II who turns into a big worm? What book is that? I don't think he does turn into a worm. Doesn't he turn into a worm? I think it's his son who turns into a worm. Oh, my God.

Yeah, it's Leto II who turns into a worm. Jared Leto II. Now he's going to appear, isn't he? Yeah, that's three. What were you thinking? I don't know. I can't go to any fashion shows this week. God, he would have loved to have been the lead in this, don't you think?

Oh, my God, yeah. I mean, he was in Blade Runner 2049. Yeah. Being Jesus or whatever. Maybe he showed up and he's like, my name's the same name as the guy. Think about it. Come on, I could be the adult version. I could turn into a big worm.

Come on. I'm already a big slippery worm. That's right. Yeah. So that's fun. All right, cool. Anyway, we're getting one more from Denny Villeneuve. Yeah, he said he's going to do Dune Messiah.

I've got the list here. He's working. He's going to do Dune Messiah. Yep. He's going to do Ronde. Isn't that more like an epilogue kind of than a. I don't know, James. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know list here. He's working. He's going to do Dune Messiah. Isn't that more like an epilogue kind of than a... I don't know, James. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. Go on then.

He's going to do Rendezvous with Rama, which is by either Isaac Asimov or Arthur C. Clarke. I can't remember. He's going to do a version of Cleopatra and he's going to do Secret Project. He also mentioned this week that he loves the aesthetic of the Batman Beyond Universe and he'd love to do like a Blade Runner

slash Batman movie. Maybe that secret project. I would love him to do that. That's Warner Brothers. That's Warner Brothers and he could do a Batman movie. Why not? Give him a Batman movie. Let him make a movie that makes money.

I think this is the first one. This one is going to make some money. Exactly. It's his first one. He exclusively makes amazing movies that mostly don't do well. How has he made his way to this point? Because they're very good. They're very good, but Hollywood doesn't care, especially –

I guess he got in on Hollywood at the point where creativity was still rewarded. Yes. Like if this was his – like you said, if they attempted to make a Dune now and they did it and it didn't make any money, he'd be out the door. They'd kill him. They would kill him, yeah. Yeah, so I'm just looking at

his box office. I mean like Prisoners and like their enemy and all those ones, they're like smaller projects, but he's big like Blade Runner bombed like horribly despite being arguably I wouldn't even say arguably, it's better than the first Blade Runner. And even better than the movie Soldier, which is also set

in the Blade Runner universe. It's better than the TV series Neuromancer? Impossible to say, isn't it? No, it probably is. Yeah. Got some reviews here though. Yeah, go on. From people who have written in on either Twitter or our Facebook

great mates group. Oh, yes. Nate says, I mean mean it's best movie ever for the dune part two but those legitimately calling it the best movie ever are almost certainly the same people who said the same about avatar when it came out only to vaguely remember it a few years later i think it's much better than original avatar okay i think this will be remembered. Sure. Very fondly. I mean, you know, if you compare this to, say, most recent Avatar. Yeah. I'm sure there are people who feel very strongly about either one of those, but I think they're kind of, it's sort of, to me, it's an apples and oranges kind of thing.

Yeah. Avatar, The Way of Water is a technical showcase. Yes. That has a plot that is decent. You know what I mean? Yeah, sure. And there's emotional stakes in that movie, and I'm sure people were very moved by that movie, technical showcase yes that has a plot that is decent you know what i mean yeah sure and i mean there's emotional stakes in that movie and i'm sure people like were very moved by that movie

but i feel like this this one had more emotional stakes that i could believe in i think absolutely but i think you know from a technical perspective it's good and the scale is good and the effects are good but i'm i'm i'm not intellectually i'm not blown away by what they did in this movie. It looks good, but I think the things that Cameron achieved in The Way of Water, incredible. You know what I mean? Better than this, would you say? Better than this. Avatar 2 is better than this movie.

That's what I'm saying, yes. Unbelievable, this guy. I'll say anything. Gibson Crandall says, as a movie, I think to you is nearly flawless. As a huge book fan, I'm slightly more conflicted, but still really love the movie. Alexis Gentry, who you might know as Trashwire. I do. I'm very social medias.

She said, absolutely loved it. It gave me the same feeling as when I saw Lord of the Rings in theaters for the first time. Just an amazing cinematic experience. Nate says, just saw, or Nate flicks and chill. There we go, that's a good name. Just saw Dune Part 2. Dennis Villeneuve is the Maddie, M-A-H-D-I, of cinema. Best movie ever.

Seriously, though. That's the top guy. It is. It's seriously one of the best movies ever. Red Line Flame says, I recently saw the movie Wonka and I was surprised how good it was. I really enjoyed it. Matt Berry would be the perfect choice to play another Oompa Loompa and Matt Berry can sing.

It's a good point. And Ryan Neuer says, best movie ever. I loved it and spent much of the run time thinking, I can't believe they let this get made. Yeah, me too. I left the theatre. There's an episode of How Did This Get Made, a good movie. I left the theatre 12 hours ago and I'm still gathering my thoughts.

Yeah, all in all, it seems like people are enjoying the movie Dune a lot. Dune. So there Dune. Dune. So there you go. Dune 3, I guess, three years away at the very least probably. Assuming Warner Brothers are still around. Because I think that picks up like having not read the book, like nine or so years after, isn't it, or like a decade of war and atrocities and then Paul Atreides is like maybe I shouldn't have. Maybe my son should become a worm.

Oh, come on, Dad. No, you've got to become a worm. Did you like the little worm? Yes. Also, the worms are like, that's the Sarlacc, you know, sort of. In a way it is, isn't it? Who did it first? We don't know.

Impossible to say, is it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, sure. Cool. And I know in Spice, et cetera, there's a bunch of other stuff. I know. I know. Dead sticks and so forth. You don't need to email me, all right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, sure. Cool. And I know in Spice, et cetera, there's a bunch of other stuff. I know. I know. Dead sticks and so forth.

You don't need to email me, all right? Yeah, yeah. All right, should we move on to the next segment of the show? Yes. But what is it? It's what we're reading. Yep. What are we going to read?

Whoa. I'm doing a thing. I'm doing a thing. What are we reading today? Whoa, this is the segment of the show where we talk about things we've been watching and reading and doing. That's right. Yeah.

Yeah. What have you got? Well, you know. I know everything. That's right. I drank that worm poison. Oh, now you know everything. I do, yeah.

That's pretty cool. I'm going to do some bad stuff. And you're on board with that? I hope this doesn't age well. No, it does. Yes. Whatever. You don't want to get cancelled?

No. Okay, great. Yeah, for doing bad stuff. So people would know film director and actor, sometime actor, Werner Herzog. Yeah. I don't know if you know this, but he has an autobiography out. It's called Every Man for Himself and God Against All,

which is the name you would make up as a fake autobiography for Werner Herzog. But not only that. He reads it, I assume. Yes, he does. Of course. So there's a paper copy and I was going to get the paper copy, but then I'm like, I'll just check because I've got Spotify Premium.

If you've got Spotify Premium, you get a certain amount of free audiobooks. They have a select list and you can just sort of dive into whichever one you want. And most of your money goes to Joe Rogan and this is just a great pipeline. Exactly. That's exactly right.

And so, yeah, it's Werner Herzog reading his autobiography and initially it does sound a little bit like a guy. Doing an impression. Doing an impression of Werner Herzog doing like Dr. Evil monologues. Like, you know, is it the first Austin Powers where he talks about his childhood? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Well, it's. It's very funny. Yeah. Like he's. What a storied existence this guy's had. Goddamn, yeah. Well, it's – It's very funny. Yeah. What a storied existence this guy's had. Goddamn, yeah. It was like a wrestling heel for a while as the German. Did that one about caves or whatever?

Sure. Did he do Grizzly Man? No. That was the Grizzly Man. I mean, no, no, but the movie. I don't think he did. No? Okay, fair enough. Anyway, that's exciting. And he was in The Mandalorian mean, no, no, but the movie. I don't think he did. No? Okay, fair enough.

Anyway, that's exciting. And he was in The Mandalorian for some reason. Yeah, that's right. I need to see the baby. I've also been watching on, there's a Disney Plus Hulu show called Death and Other Details. It was Werner Herzog. He did do the grizzly man movie.

Sorry, go on. Death and Other Details. It feels very much like they went, okay, we need a kind of knives out, glass onion kind of situation. It's set on a cruise ship and there's been a murder and there's two people on a boat that are linked together. But anyway, it's got Mandy Patinkin in it. Yes.

That's pretty much the reason why I jumped on it. And I'll tell you what, it's okay. Well, it's got a 53% on Rotten Tomatoes, so it seems like, yeah, it is okay. It's pretty, like, I definitely feel like they've gone, let's do a glass onion, let's do a little bit of Murder on the Air and Express, let's kind of, you know. It feels kind of like they. I've never even heard of this. It feels kind of, I saw a Billboard ad for it and I'm like, oh, give that a try.

It feels kind of like they rolled the dice randomly of like the setting and the quirks of the investigator. Right. Who is the investigator? It is Manny Patinkin. It's Patinkin, yeah. And like their links to the other people. You didn't decide to watch the show Shogun,

which is apparently incredible. I know it's on Disney+. Well, you know what I did is I switched it on and I watched it for about 30 seconds and I'm like, I need – Because a lot of it is in Japanese. Yeah, I need to set everything aside. You need to learn Japanese. I need to learn Japanese.

I need to set a lot of stuff aside and do it like that. Completely agree. Yeah, but that's next time on this show again, I think. Awesome. All right. What about you, James? What have you been doing? I watched a documentary.

Oh, here we go. It's called Here Comes a New Challenger. It's directed by Oliver Harper who does these documentaries every few years. He also has a great YouTube channel. He's got a great review channel and does various other things on there. He also does a lot of retrospectives on like this is every Robocop game and whatever and what's good or bad about them. But anyway, Here Comes a New Challenger details the origins

of the gaming phenomena that is Street Fighter 2 and how it impacted the lives of kids and teenagers worldwide. So it covers the first Street Fighter game and the mechanics behind it and what fighting games were prior to Street Fighter. Sure. And then the explosion of Street Fighter 2 and then the multiple versions and updates that came from that and then the weird ports that happened

and people who would crack arcade machines and make faster versions and you can do different things and whatever. And then they talk about like the first movie. They don't get into the second one, which is probably for the best. And the weird like and the shift into fighting games into 3D and how like then Street Fighter was kind of archaic and the games that came up against it like Mortal Kombat and Killer Instinct and all of that. It's like two hours and 22 minutes long so it really like gets into the weeds of Street Fighter which

is what I like yes I like I don't want a vague kind of thing and then it's on your YouTube but I have to find out okay so it's on if you go to sf2 as in the number to doc.com you can get either a limited like physical copy on blu-ray or whatever but you can also buy it on vimeo which is where i bought it and you can also download it from vimeo if you wanted to watch it on whatever else but um yeah i just like because i feel like a lot of these documentaries and you see them on netflix it's just like and then there was this and then they made this version and then they kind of but this is like okay so there was this version of street fighter that some lunatic made and it's better because of this this and this uh-huh and they get and it

gets into it's yeah it's this probably like commercially this would be like an hour and a half max and it's get into marvel superheroes versus straight some of it yes they do all of that yeah they do every street fighter alpha yes they talk about street fighter alpha they talk about street fighter 3 wow they talk about like Fighter Alpha. They talk about Street Fighter 3. Wow. They talk about like there was like a web series in the 2010s and they get the director of that in and it's just a lot. Again, they don't talk about The Legend of Chun-Li, the movie,

like at all. I think that doesn't come up. That's interesting. Maybe they couldn't get any of the footage. But they talk to the director of the Street Fighter movie and kind of like what he was going for and also the disappointment around that and people are like, why did they make this version of it? There's no Street Fighting in this but kind of like what he was going for and also the disappointment around that and people are like, why did they make this version of it?

There's no Street Fighting in this, but kind of the cult following of that. That was also made into a video game with the digitized actors. Yeah, Colin Minogue's in that game. Yeah, it's a whole thing, man. Anyway, I really liked it and I like his YouTube channel a lot. So, again, it does really get into the weeds, which is, again, one of the specific reasons why i really liked it yeah yeah yeah very cool don't give me a vague whatever street fighter

yeah you know somebody who wants who's watching a street fighter specific documentary doesn't want and then and it was very popular and then many years later they made street fighter 2 turbo yeah no it was no and then even even just like hearing about the home ports and being like, okay, so these were the limitations of the home system and this is what they had to do to get around it and whatever. And the pixels, the sprites are different. And I'm like, oh, I love this.

I love all of this. Because I remember that era when they were just like, they had to port it to everything. Yeah. And they were like porting it to like the NES and the Game Boy. And at one point they ported it. It's on the Amiga and it's dreadful.

Yeah, it was on the Spectrum. Yeah. The 8-bit, which is like a sub-Commodore 64 computer from like the, you know, by the time Street Fighter was out in like 1990, it was already obsolete, this thing. But they like, they gave it giant sprites and they would like move like molasses, you know, because it was so. They talk about the Tiger Electronics they would move like molasses. They talk about the Tiger Electronics one.

Oh, my God. Just all of that. So anyway, again, it's at sf2doc.com. Cool. But you Google it. You'll be able to find it. Yeah, nice. Well, neither of us watched Shogun.

No. I was saying with you, I'm like, I need to learn Japanese and sit down. I'll try and watch it this week. Isn't it a couple of episodes out or is it all out? You're saying it's Game of Thrones but Japan. No, it was two episodes out and then the rest is week to week. Game of Thrones but Japan, they say. I read a tweet today.

Game of Japan. Game of Japan about sort of George R.R. Martin, his legacy regarding Game of Thrones. And how he thinks he's better than me. Yeah, that's right. He said that. Yeah. It's not even true.

I mean. I don't think it is.. Yeah, that's right. He said that. Yeah. It's not even true. I mean. I don't think it is. I mean, if we're going to be honest. But, I mean, the long and the short of it was basically about how, like, and the discussion around it was sort of about how it takes him so long to write these that maybe he's. He just doesn't. Well, he just doesn't.

But his whole outlook on the world that he's created has probably changed since he started. And, like, how do you end a saga if you had a particular outcome in mind when you started? Because he apparently also, he sort of writes to character in the sense that it'd be like, okay, well, this character encounters this problem. What would they do? Die.

Well, they might die. Get stabbed. Get their eyes stabbed. Or they might just, like, wander the desert for a year or something like that which means he can't just you know and and the the criticism of the last season of game of thrones is basically the creator the the producers were just like we need to get to here at the end so let's just say these characters yeah normally there'll be three episodes where

they yeah let's just say amelia clark's character goes crazy yeah yeah you can't you know and that's not that's not satisfying for a character to just kind of no snap but you know so he it takes him a really long time to sort of get characters into places that where it's narratively satisfying kind of thing and also like the the idea that maybe it's he maybe he's like if he were to before he finished the last book if he were to die or to become a recluse that never gives interviews or anything and never goes out in public, he would be a guy who made like nine-tenths of a fantasy masterpiece. But if he finishes it and it's bad.

Then he's that guy. He's a guy who really shanked it at the end. So where did this start? Just on Twitter somewhere. Just a Twitter convo. Just a Twitter convo. Just a Twitter convo. That's interesting. I'm not going to get in on that.

No? Maybe he's not better than me. Can't even finish his – I'm going to finish this podcast. Are you though? Yeah. As she was talking then, I just thought that like, God, this is weird people listen to this. Right.

And that's not because of just what you were saying. But mostly that. Yeah, it was mostly you because it was just really not that engaging. I know. No, that is interesting, genuine. I mean can he even like in the time left in his life potentially, how many books has he got? I don't even know where they're at.

There hasn't been one for so long. Again, like I said, because he isn't doing it the wrong way. He's not doing it via plot and just saying we have to get to here. Yeah. He looks at every character and sees how they interact and he goes okay what would they all do in this situation and he just sort of has a mosey around yeah to their dramatic situations and a conclusion so yeah oh god so the original book of game of thrones is from 1996 the next one was 99 and then 2000 so that's good uh and then 2005, and then 2011, and that was it.

Yeah, right. And the Winds of Winter and then A Dream of Spring is. So he's saying he's going to knock it off in two. I also think there's a possibility that he is close to finishing a lot of this and he's tinkering. And he's just going to one day just be like, it's all done. Maybe. Yeah, maybe.

I don't know. I don't know. Or he's doing a lot of cocaine parties in Hollywood and he's like, whatever, man, it's all done. Maybe. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. I don't know. Or he's doing a lot of cocaine parties in Hollywood and he's like, I don't care anymore. Yeah, I only care about cocaine. That's right. I used to care about a deeply detailed fantasy world of my own creation, but now that's before I discovered cocaine. Exactly.

And now every day is a deeply detailed fantasy world of cocaine. I think it's, I can't remember what I was going to say. All right then. What a fascinating human being. Isn't he though? Yeah. Also, oh yeah, that's right. I think it's funny every time he's like,

he starts to write something else or hints that he's going to do some kind of other project, whatever it is. People are like, no! Finish Game of Thrones! Finish Game of Thrones! I think they will get finished even if he doesn't finish these. Somebody will finish them for him. Oh, absolutely.

He'll have to bequeath it either in his will or just to me. Yeah, to you because you're interesting. And then I won't do it. Yeah. He'll pass it along and then somebody will take a crack and everybody will be like, well, you know. Game of Thrones. Game of Thrones.

Interesting. I mean it really is called The Song of Ice and Fire but whatever. No, it's called Game of Thrones. It is called Game of Thrones Game of Thrones Interesting I mean it really is called The Song of Ice and Fire But whatever It's called Game of Thrones It is called Game of Thrones He said I renamed it Game of Thrones That's right

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Oh. Just recently I said. I didn't know that. Well. I just want to say I didn't know that. Hmm, interesting. When I earlier, when I thought I'd get cancelled, this might be it. Yeah, that's right.

Yeah. Podcast host says someone with no eyes should just look at a thing. Well, it's not that easy. I didn't know. Yeah. Podcast host says someone with no eyes should just look at a thing. Well, it's not that easy. I didn't know. Wow. Just recently I started listening to the Weekly Planet podcast at work. When I learned you take letters, I was so excited. Yeah, man.

I'm not sure if anyone's inquired of this before, but as an American I wanted to get a couple of Aussies' perspective on this hypothetical. If they were to dust off the Crocodile Dundee franchise and reboot it, do you think Aussies would be excited or upset? And which Aussie do you think would be the best suit to the role and leather vest? Personally, I think Jason Clarke.

Presumably this hypothetical reboot is also a comedy. Maybe Eric Cabana if it was a pretty serious take. They're all comedies technically. Yeah, I guess. Technically. I don't know. How would we feel about it? I mean there was that ad campaign from a few years ago, it's got Danny McBride

as the son of Paul Hogan and Chris Hemsworth and there was a second where we were like oh this could be interesting and then he did that thing that was like it's the fantastical Mr Hogan or whatever and what was it like? it was bad but I liked it

was it a narrative? yeah it was the life of Paul Hogan as he is now living in LA. Right. Avoiding taxes. Yeah, avoiding taxes, allegedly. And like there's shenanigans that come with it, but there's stuff in that where kids are like, that's Crocodile Dundee.

And I'm like, nobody, no kid knows that. No, absolutely not. He looks completely different and no kid has seen Crocodile Dundee. I mean, I don't think Australia would do it. I don't think the Australian film industry would do it. I don't think he'd give it up either, alive. I think he'd want to do it. He'd want to be Crocodile Dundee again.

I mean, I could see that. He's so old, man. Yeah, he is. Also, as I understand. He was old when he did that yeah no i feel like we've talked about this as well but apparently he gets he he's 84 yeah he's 84 i mean he could do like i could see a version where he's crocodile dundee and he's really old and that's that's the gag i'm crocodile dundee i'm real old look at this him. Yeah? He's a million years old.

He looks pretty good for a million years old. A million years old, yeah. What if you did a version where he's Crocodile Dundee and any time it cuts to it like he does a stunt, it cuts to like a really obviously not him guy? I think it should cut to an even older man. Just being flown across a ravine or whatever on a whip. Yeah, maybe.

Look, man, he owns it all. If he wanted to do it, I would love to see that. Sure. Just give him another crack at it. But I don't know. I think there's a certain – There will be something. Something will happen at some point.

I think a certain segment of the Australian public would be genuine, like unironically excited to see another – I think we even, when that ad happened, we thought it might be a movie. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But we also talked about how apparently he gets in there, like, and he'll look at the script and he'll do some rewriting. Yeah, he's very.

So he can get another credit. Yeah. On the money. On the money. On the money. On the money, allegedly. Yes, these are the things that he does. Whenever we talk about Australians, we have to say allegedly

because the libel and slander laws in Australia are very. That's right. Very strict. Very cool. They're cool, allegedly. But also he's not here. No, he's not here. It's true. Jason Clarke is also too old.

I think you need a really young guy. Again, I think he was like at least 45 when he did the first one. Yeah, right. So I think that's fine. You could go that old. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.

I think like remember when they did like they did the starsky and hutch you know when they did the brady bunch reboot yeah starsky and hutch where it's like we like the property but we're also making fun of the the tropes of it and i think you'd have to do it like that but i would be very curious as to know whether paul hogan would want to do it because i think that's the only way to do it and make it successful or palatable to audiences is like we remember this character as sort of an old joke yes and most people but most people don't remember it but we remember kind of the the outward you know this and this that's not a knife this is a knife like that's all the people remember this isn't and if you turn it into like a kind of satire of rebooting old properties,

I think it could work. Yeah. But that relies on Paul Hogan going, yes, I would like that. Like we have to acknowledge that it's kind of a joke. Yeah. But as you mentioned with the magical, fantastical, phantasmagorical Paul Hogan. The very excellent Mr. Dundee.

Did it feel like. John Cleese and Chevy Chase and Olivia Newton-John Did it feel like he'd be willing to be a punchline? Yeah, a little bit I mean, you know Let's make it happen, folks. Let's do it Where's the Albie Mangels movie?

Let's start a GoFundMe Oh my god, this one Paul Hogan's punching. He's still punching darts Absolutely is, yeah And he's wearing a leather jacket. I guess also he was kind of a parody himself of like an Indiana Jones style character. Yes.

Right. Yeah. Those are like the first two at least. They're kind of endearing. They're like very of their time and whatever. But there's a charm to them. Because it's about a woman who goes to the out, an American woman who goes to the outback

and she meets Paul Hogan. And they got married in real life, though they recently divorced. Yes. It's not just too many dads. It might be the reason. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know if that's why. Zach also has a backup question.

What's the most egregious, deplorable example of an Australian accident film? It's in Pacific Rim, I think. Oh, yeah. Those two Australian guys. There's a couple of those ones, yeah. I like them, though. I love bad Australian accidents. Oh, yeah, absolutely., I think. Oh, yeah. There's a couple of those. I like them, though. I love bad Australian accidents. Oh, yeah, absolutely.

I mean, the Simpsons episode, we talk about that a lot, but that's all bad. But also, like, I think when people get it right, though, I think it's really impressive. It's really impressive, like Captain Boomerang in the Suicide Squad game. I think that's... Oh, I thought you were going to say in the movies because I'm like,

he is Australian. Oh, he is Australian. That's true, yeah. Or even when Australians tap into that particular – Yeah. But also remember the movie The Stranger? Oh, yeah. Who did that really good one in that?

He's the guy in the Mission Impossible movies. But he nailed that. Ethan. That guy. Ethan. Yeah. Yeah, he's really good. I'm in this van, but in a way we're both in this fan.

Yep. Robert Downey Jr. does a good one in Tropic Thunder. Yeah. But that's more of a kind of a, it's more of a parody, but he still does it. Yeah, that's true. He still does it really well. Yeah, that's a good one.

I got one here from Fenomenon who says, tagged the pod a while back and got a shout out for this, so it seems like it's out. He's talking about Dark Forces, which was re-released they they updated all the graphics and all of that and uh you can also play it in the original for those people don't know dark forces is doom but star wars is in the 90s but you can jump on other things that's right and you can make rooms on rooms which you couldn't do in original so they re-released i i just want to play dark forces too but i don't know if you saw them so yeah no that's great i'm glad they made i might it. I just want to play Dark Forces too. But I don't know if you saw the – so, yeah, no, that's great.

I'm glad they made – I might even buy it, not even to play it, just so they make the next one. Yeah. Because it ends up just a rat's maze, that game, just like keys and red doors and whatever. As was the style at the time. Exactly. But LucasArts or Disney cancelled a first-person Mandalorian

story-based game this week. Because remember they cancelled Star Wars 1313, which is going toperson Mandalorian story-based game. Again. This week. Because remember they cancelled Star Wars 1313, which is going to be a Boba Fett game. Amy Hennig had one that they cancelled as well. There's a bunch of them. So it was a story-driven respawn who made Titanfall. Yeah.

Mandalorian game where you weren't the Mandalorian, you were a Mandalorian. But you used like jetpack traversal and different weapons and all of that. I don't like it. Why would anybody want to play that? Yeah, I know. I don't like that the Mandalorians are bounty hunters. I like the idea that Boba Fett was just some guy who stole some Mandalorian armor.

Yeah. Like his old origin. Well, too bad. It's his destiny. Great. That's cool. So, yeah, anyway, I'm sad about that because you're going to run out of things to remaster eventually if you stop making games.

Then you'll have to come up with new ideas. Yeah. And we'll be dead by then. We'll be dead. That's right. Here's an email from Robbie. Robbie! He says, I just can't quit Jurassic Park.

Well, you're going to have to. Dear James and Mace, I've been listening to the pod since 2017 and been a massive fan ever since. Whoa, thanks, man. Just wanted to say that with the news of Gareth Edwards directing the next Jurassic Park movie, possibly, I've once again ended the cycle of being excited for a Jurassic movie only for it to be not just disappointing but bad.

Yeah, man. I love the first movie and I keep going in thinking the next one will be different and they never are, but I keep getting hyped anyway. My question to you both is you have a franchise that constantly disappoints you but you can't help but stick with it. Yeah, Jurassic Park. Okay, right. Mine would be the Oceans movies.

They've never reached the heights of the first one. With Frank Sinatra. Yeah. And I keep hoping. I went in at 12 and 13 and 8. Yeah. And I'm like, look at this cast, right? It's going to be incredible.

Like it's a new cast. What a bunch of like industry veterans and new people. And it's going to be so cool. And it wasn't. You know about the prequel? Yeah, there's a prequel with Michael Robbie and Ryan Gosling. Ryan Gosling, yeah. That seems like that's the one for you.

I don't think it's going to happen probably. Because now they're too big because they did the big movie. Hopefully they signed on beforehand. Yeah, maybe, but then they can get out of it with millions of dollars. I mean, Indiana Jones for me, definitely. Oh, yeah. They haven't been great since the 80s. What would get – I mean, if they made another one somehow,

we would watch it obviously. Yeah. But – Terminator, that's one. I'll Terminator all obviously. Yeah. But. Terminator, that's one. That's, yeah. Old Terminator all day. Yeah. Yeah. Just, and again, because it's, I think it's the same with Jurassic Park,

World, it's the same with Oceans, it's the Terminator, Indiana Jones. It's snippets of greatness. Yeah. In all of them. Yeah. At least, you know, one great scene and you go, oh, this could have been the whole movie if they'd done it better. Yeah.

But they didn't. Jurassic City, I think, is like the working title. Okay. I don't know. I think Daniel Richman mentioned that. I don't know whether that will. I mean, that could work if they. An abandoned New York that's all dinosaurs.

Yes, exactly. I mean, if they can't scientifically prove that the world would be filled with dinosaurs or whatever, give us a city zombie star where it's filled. Give us I Am Legend of the Dinosaurs. They've walled off New York City and it's filled with dinosaurs. Give us a change in that world. Absolutely. So, yeah, that's still going to hit that release date.

I think it films in July. Gareth Edwards is directing, as we mentioned last week. Robbie says, I just want to shout out my buddy Evan who listens to the pod and asks on his behalf if he can be the official number one Black Adam movie fan of the pod. It's his favourite movie. That's Robbie from Scotland. That's actually my favourite movie.

But, you know, I'm going to let this slide. But there's one more email here from Nicole. Nicole? It says, my boyfriend and his best friend Robbie and Evan love your podcast and constantly quote and talk about it. However, my boyfriend just informed me he emailed you to call his best friend the world's biggest Black Adam fan. I do find this unfair as he is now left out,

so can you officially make Robbie the world's biggest Morbius fan? And he absolutely loves the movie and especially Jared Leto. Thank you very much from Nicole. Is there another email asking about Nicole? No, but there could be one. That's very fun. It's two emails deep so far. I've got one from Red Lion Flames who says,

it's Sydney Mardi Gras tomorrow. Do you watch many LGBTQIA plus films or shows? Some of my favourites are Bros, The Boys in the Band, the Netflix series Heartstoppers, hashtag weeklyplanetpod. Yeah, I do. I enjoy old media and I would be strange if I excluded this, don't you think? Old media is any good media, you know, any good media. I would have loved to watch, again, over like the Christmas,

New Year's break, going into the new year, we make a lot of fun of like, oh, there's no good movies. There were a bunch of good movies and I just didn't have time. Or they don't come out of it. They're delayed or you just see them on the coming soon outside the movie theatre and you're like, that's exciting, and then they just skip the theatre somehow and end up streaming. But All of Us Strangers apparently is very good. That's the one that I've written down that I want to see

because that's got Andrew Scott and Paul Meskel. I think it's on streaming now, I want to say. I don't know if it is. I checked and I can't see it. Okay, well, it's close to. But, yeah, as mentioned, Heartstopper's great. I've only seen the first season on Netflix. It's really just like it's just nice as well. okay these nice people is it based on a book or i think

it is yeah or graphic novel i can't remember um i mean the obvious one is brokeback mountain but i think the thing about brokeback mountain as well is it had two of the like the the hottest rising like straight male actors sure male actors in the world at the time who made this movie, and it was just a different era. And it took it seriously. It wasn't like, and I know there are parodies and jokes that are even still made today about that, but it was this real earnest kind of tragic love story,

and it's like a genuinely amazing movie. In terms of comedies, yeah, so Bottoms we talked about last week. Oh, yeah, that's a good one. That's really fun. Bros was mentioned here as well. Oh, that's Billy Eichner? Yeah, Bros sunk like a stone because nobody promoted it. But Bros is like a – it's just an old-fashioned rom-com.

It's very funny if you haven't seen it. I mean, another one from the 90s, Tom Cruise. Not Tom Cruise. He's straight. Philadelphia. Yep. Tom Hanks, really good. There's a Netflix movie called The Power of the Dog.

Yeah, I've seen that one. Which is a Western, which is amazing. And at the end you learn the power of the dog. Yeah, it's a laser. It's a laser coming in at the size, yeah. So yeah, so those are some of my ones that I enjoy. But yeah, good luck at the Mardi Gras. If that has happened yet, I don't know. Love that.

At the time of recording this. So there you go. You got any others or is that? That's every email that's ever been sent to us. All right then. Shall we wrap it up? Oh, here's just one from Joseph. Hey fellas, been listening to the show for a while now.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think I've ever heard either of you mention the show The Venture Brothers, especially surprising since the big finale was in 2023. I've never seen that. It's a show that seems very up your alley. Actual very funny comedy based on sci-fi pop culture. If you haven't watched it, then treat yourself to a great show.

Maybe we will. I've seen a little bit of the Venture Brothers. I like that era. Isn't it supposed to be Adventure Brothers? Yeah. Okay, great. I think that's probably a typo there. Probably why I didn't watch it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that kind of Hanna-Barbera revival, like Harvey Birdman. Space Ghost, et cetera. Yeah, exactly. Talk show, whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that kind of Hanna-Barbera revival, like Harvey Birdman. Space Ghost, et cetera. Yeah, exactly. Talk show, whatever. Yeah, yeah. But Venture Brothers I never really got into. Didn't Harvey Birdman come back recently?

I think it did, yeah. Yeah, I didn't see any of it, but yeah. Oh, there's three seasons of the Venture Brothers on Stan. So not all five seasons. Which seasons? The middle ones. Probably the middle ones. Probably two, three, and four.

Ooh, they're my favourites. Yeah, those are good. Yeah, man. I'm going to watch some Venture Brothers this week. I hope you do. I will. I won't. I probably won't.

I'll watch Shogun after I learn Japanese, which I will very quickly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, next week also is Roadhouse. We're going to be roadhousing everybody. There's been some drama this week about- I'm going to be roundhousing people. You can roadhouse anyone you want, but I'm going to roundhouse. Every listener I encounter.

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I mean, what didn't come through was the funny color you turned after we played it for 20, 30 minutes and realized that there was no audio recorded. I was so bad, Mason. Yeah, I know. And whose fault was that? I don't even know. One of my kids, I think, came in and messed with some of the equipment.

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I'm excited for Roadhouse too. He's gotten ripped. Gelidon's gotten ripped. He's doing a ripped Roadhouse. That's right. And he might have been that person who was mean to Rebecca Ferguson. Oh, was he on the list? He was on that list.

What movie did they do together? They did some space one. They're out in space. Oh, Life. Yeah, Life. A couple of dudes out in space. Really? Yeah.

Because she was like, I mean, it's her business. Who was it? I should Google Rebecca Ferguson who? But she did an interview on a podcast and she said there was one person she'll never work with again and they were number one on the call sheet and it was like 10 or 11 years ago and everybody went crazy with the online detective. She did say 10 or 11 years ago.

But maybe she was that, you know, maybe she was like, you know, back in the 90s 10 years ago, which is what I think all the time. Yeah. Oh, the person said, also didn't say man. That's true. But said being so insecure and angry because this person couldn't get the scenes out and would literally look at me in front of the whole crew and say, you call yourself an actor, this is what I have to work with.

And I liked how Dwayne The Rock Johnson came out and said, I liked who did this, which is like a way of him being like, it wasn't me. Nobody thinks that you would have done that because I think also he's not like an actor's actor in that way. That's true, yeah. He would have been like, no one's been good acting. Yeah, yeah.

You know? Yeah. Vin Diesel would have done that. 100%. You're not employing the Brechtian method, he would have said. Oh, did you see he announced next Fast and Furious? No. Whatever, because he hasn't since a bunch of allegations came out.

He's been quiet on social media and he finally did a post where he was like, we're doing one final Fast and Furious. One last ride. God, and I hope that's true. Just knock it off at 11? Yeah, man. Just a casual 11. Casual 11. Yeah. Ocean casual 11. Casual 11.

Yeah. Ocean's 11. Leg's 11. That's right. Yeah. Anything else? That's it. That's the whole show.

Cool. All right. Again, Roadhouse next week. Mean old Jake Gyllenhaal. He did it. It was, wasn't it? I don't know. Maybe.

We knew it. Maybe. We knew it. Oh, here's another thing. Oh, Hugh Grant, people have said. Yeah, but I think she said specifically it wasn't Hugh Grant and it wasn't Tom Cruise. Okay. That was the specific one she didn't say.

And I think it's not Emily Blunt or Emily Blunt said it's not Emily Blunt. No, because she's always like, that's my girlfriend, Emily Blunt. Oh, my God, really? Yeah, yeah. Well, that makes sense. The other piece of news, his piece of news. I love news. They're apparently planning on an American Psycho reboot.

Oh, that's right. But a present day one. I think Gyllenhaal would work for that. I think he's too old. No, because the point of it is, yeah, but that's the thing. He's vain and old. Well, I mean, he's not vain and old, but I think like. Don't you think you want to set it in the time period where it's set?

Doesn't that add to like. I think it kind of does. And also like the idea of, you know, how Patrick Bateman has the insane skincare routine or whatever, it doesn't seem that weird now. No, it's pretty weird. Like when TikTok people are like, here's the 15 things I use every morning or whatever. It doesn't seem that weird now. No, it's pretty weird. Like when TikTok people are like, here's the 15 things I use every morning or whatever.

Yeah. But somebody on Twitter said, okay, in order to, the perfect Patrick Bateman needs to be like conventionally good looking. Yep. Good actor. Yep. Freak. Like weird freak.

And it's like Gyllenhaal. Yeah, no, you're right. Yeah. Or somebody also suggested, is it Alison Williams? You know, the lady from Get Out? I thought the one who went to jail for the cult. Oh, that's Alison something else. Yeah, well, she is something else.

Alison Williams. Oh, yeah, that's a great choice. Yeah. Yeah, okay. That's a good one. I like that. Yeah, because she turns in Get Out. Yeah, turns on a bloody dime, that one. Yeah. Yeah, okay. That's a good one. I like that. Yeah, because she turns in Get Out. Yeah.

Get Out. Turns in a bloody dime, that one. Yeah. Anyway. There's a lot of Patrick Bateman kind of TikTok lookalike kind of dudes. Yeah, do you just get it? I mean, is that the entry point? Get a TikTok guy.

No, but I mean, is the new American psycho influencer? Maybe. But is that kind of like? Yeah. I don't know. Well, that's the thing. But also, why do it if you're just gonna do it yeah if you're just gonna do the 80s businessman again i think that the the the core of one of the scars guards the core of american psycho is it's someone who is completely deranged and maybe a murderer he's almost certainly a murderer

yep but they exist in an industry where everybody is like that yes and nobody and therefore no one notices yes so i think you could do it in tiktok but the problem with tiktok is it's all remote yes so it has to be maybe like like a we work kind of like a yeah like a like a shared workspace okay kind of thing and everybody's like that but one guy's a murderer i like that i don't know i saw jacob got some that like jacob elordi like that guy okay he's yeah all right he's excited i don't know enough about it but he's freak like isn't he yeah yeah i mean christian bale is like that is andrew scott andrew scott andrew scott yeah again probably i mean in your 40s is like you know oh yeah okay right what about tom holl? Do you think he could do it? No.

Just no? He could, sure. Yeah. Austin Butler. Yes. He was that weird sperm freak in that movie we just saw. He was Mr. Sperm Freak. Yeah.

That's right. Yeah, Austin Butler could work for sure. Okay, that's it. That's the one. All right. And he'd get into it. He'd really get into it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

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