The Weekly Planet - 518 Should Batman Kill & The Oscars 2024

Episode Date: March 11, 2024

It’s a big news week ranging from sad with the loss of Akira Toriyama and Bradley Cooper not winning an Oscar to fascinating look into Zack Snyder’s insight into the Batman no killing rule. Plus we get into some cameo information regarding Deadpool & Wolverine, the live action Avatar: The Last Airbender remake gets a renewal, confirmation of a Super Mario Bros sequel, Disney’s brand new approach to making a successful movie, Warner Brothers doubles down on live services, Sony upset with Dakota Johnson not loving Madame Web and more! Thanks for listening.Visit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show including video game let's plays, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Please be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start04:04 Akira Toriyama RIP11:48 Missing Cameo in Deadpool 314:08 Avatar The Last Airbender Renewed16:18 Super Mario Bros. Movie Sequel19:57 Executive Wisdom (New Segment)28:32 Dakota Johnson vs Madame Web Update35:04 Zack Snyder on Batman Killing in the DCEU46:42 Zack Snyder on Rebel Moon's Success53:46 The Oscars 2024 Results58:54 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:09:38 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetThe Weekly Planet TikTok ►https://www.tiktok.com/@weeklyplanetpodThe Weekly Planet Clips Channel on YouTube ► https://www.youtube.com/@theweeklyplanetclipsPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Visit heartandstroke.ca. Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of The Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday and with me as always my guy is Nick Mason. You having a normal one? Never missed, never missed. You having a normal or regular one?

I've just driven four hours and now I'm sitting down to record. I am having a normal one. Yeah, but I mean you just drove for four hours aimlessly though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For no reason. Just around the block. Just to avoid. Just all left turns around the block.

Just to avoid the realities of life. Yeah, man. Just four hours of driving and that gets you in the headspace to do a great podcast. Exactly. People don't know that but I do it every week. Yeah, you give yourself the dizzy whizzies and then you can do a podcast. Stumble in and do this.

No, no, that's not actually true. I normally do that but this week I was at a Port Ferry music festival. Big shout out to both Tim and Hamish who came up and said hi, who I met, which was lovely to meet people in the real world, something I try not to do. Not the meeting thing, the real world. The real world thing, absolutely. Yeah, they were both delightful.

Were they considerate enough to do it as a team? No, they did it separately. Separate occasions. I know, they could have cut down on time if they both came up at the same time. Exactly. Yeah. You could have said, great to meet you.

You could have done a double handshake like this. or you could have all put your hands in together yeah exactly uh and uh no shout out to daniel who sent us an email who didn't come up and say hi but saw me there so you know i'm not throwing shade it seems you are i'm not throwing shade okay i'm not it's i mean just by the very nature of what you're saying it seems like you are i'm not throwing shade okay well anyways that's also why this podcast is late also we were supposed to talk about roadhouse I mean, just by the very nature of what you're saying, it seems like you are throwing shade. I'm not throwing shade, Mason. Okay, well. Anyways, that's also why this podcast is late. Also, we were supposed to talk about Roadhouse, but it only premiered and hasn't actually come out yet.

So we've got just a whole bunch of news and stuff to go through. We look like fools. We do. That's my fault. But fortunately, the Oscar results are happening right now. So that's news, isn't it? Yeah. We can go, I didn't see that.

Oh, I didn't see that. Interesting. Probably deserved. Didn't see that. Oh, I didn't see that. Interesting. Probably deserved. Didn't see that. Oh, they were robbed. Didn't see it. We just saw a clip of Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny DeVito like paying out on Michael Keaton for beating them up as Batman even though he only beat one of them.

He only beat one of those guys up. Yeah, yeah. That's fine. And also technically the Penguin just died on his own. Oh, that is true. I mean, Batman did knock him through the thing with all the bats. That's true, yeah. Yeah, yeah, fair point.

So, yeah, you know, good on everybody. Winners and losers, we're happy for you. Robert Downey Jr. won. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We're happy for losers? Yeah. We're happy that they're losers. Oh, okay, great.

I like that, actually. Robert Downey Jr., Godzilla minus one, one. For best supporting actor. All of these things. So, yeah, if anything spectacular happens, like somebody strikes somebody else. Sure. We'll probably circle back around. Keep you in the loop. Yeah.

Because he is the only place you'll know about it. That's right. But we've got some news we've got to get to. There's time codes below if you're doing a jump to anything. We've got the passing of. Like the bloody end. Why would you be? It doesn't matter.

Akira Toriyama passed away. We're going to get into that. Very sad news. An update on Deadpool and Wolverine, including some cameos. We won't and will be saying – So big spoilers. Disappointments incoming. That's right.

Wow. We've got some news on Avatar The Last Airbender new series, what's happening there. And an update on the Mario sequel. I've got a segment called Executive Wisdom where I've got some pieces of executive wisdoms from Bob Iger and Warner Brothers executive, Jean Brake.

Never heard of him. Yeah. But excited to learn about him. Well, he was recently, he was at a Morgan Stanley speaking event and there's some news, which I know you love to frequent. So maybe you could tell that news actually

when we get to it. Great. Very excited to do that. We've got Madam Web News, which I love. Yes. And a bit of shade throwing both ways from one of the cast members and Sony. Is it Dakota Johnson? Yes.

Interesting. And unexpected. And then we're going to talk about Zack Snyder's thoughts on just ideas around Batman. He was on the JRE podcast earlier this week, or last week I should say. Now you don't need to tell me, but that JRE, that's the Joe Rogan experience. I don't need to tell you, Mason.

Yeah. You're absolutely right. That's terrific. So, yeah, I don't know whether this one's going to be a little bit shorter than usual. Maybe a bit longer than usual. Maybe. Just put it on 0.75 if it is.

Maybe you'll be like, damn, why doesn't this podcast end sooner? That's a great question. I might say, regardless of length. Mm-hmm. So let's start with this. So Akira Toriyama is dead at age 68, which sucks.

That's young, but as I understand it, it's not uncommon for manga artists to pass quite early because they get overworked. Oh, okay. Well, he has been working solidly for 400 years, despite only being 68. Yeah, it says that he passed away on March 1st

and he died of an acute subdural hematoma. We don't know, like, in relation to what. That could be head injury related. Like, we don't know. That's the only information at the time of recording. It could be as a result of his nemesis punching him through a mountain range. Oh, my God. And then when he comes out the other end of the mountain range,

his nemesis is there and he blasts him with a huge laser into the core of the earth. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe that's what did it to him. Could you name the laser that he was doing? No. Potentially? No?

No? You're not a fan? No. Okay. But you recognize his influence, no doubt. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. Well, you've been a huge fan of Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z

for a long time. I mean, I wouldn't say huge fan because there are people who would be like, well, I'm a much bigger fan. Ah, I see. I came to Dragon Ball. But then you, well, I'm a much bigger fan. Ah, I see. I came to Dragon Ball. But then you could just say you're a much bigger fan. That's true. And then they could say they're a bigger fan.

Yeah. And then it would go on and on. And then you could shoot giant lasers at each other. That's true. We could do that. Like just a generic branded laser. Yeah. Well, I could talk a bit about like how I got into this in particular,

but just a bit of background, which is absolutely not going to do like the influence that this guy had justice. But he started in advertising. He was a poster designer and he quit at 23. He was like, I don't like doing this and I'm turning up late. It's not very fun in this ad agency. So he had like some minor success with some manga. He did something called Wonder Island and another thing called Dr. Slump

and I think he did a sequel to Wonder Island also. But they were like known and popular- popularish but they didn't take off and then he started dragon boy in 1983 which became dragon ball in 1984 which sold 260 million copies or has of so far which is 6.19 million copies per volume which is i think it's second i can't remember what it's second to it might be one piece i can't remember what it's second to. It might be one piece. I can't remember. But if you look at like the volume compared to the sales, it's probably the highest. I can't remember specifically, but it's huge.

And this is discounting the show. This is just the printed word and picture. Manga, as mentioned. That's what they call it. We call it manga. We do here, yeah. Some call it mangia. Do they?

Like eat in Italian. That's to eat in Italian. We call it manga. We do here, yeah. Some call it manga. Do they? Like eat in Italian. That's to eat in Italian. Yeah, okay, yeah. So adapted then into Dragon Ball, the animated series, and then a sequel series in Dragon Ball Z. Then when that finished, Dragon Ball GT started up, which he didn't have a hand in. I think loosely.

I mean, there's some character designs in that, which obviously carry over. But that was not based on the manga, and he had, as mean, there's some character designs in that, which obviously carry over. But that was not based on the manga, and he has mentioned little involvement in. And then it resurged again in 2015 with Dragon Ball Super, and there's been multiple movies in that sense, which are still happening. Was Dragon Ball Evolution?

Yes, that's true. The wonderful live-action movie. That's great, yes. That's a good movie. I agree. A lot of people don't think that. No, a lot of people think it's bad. Yeah, but.

Toriyama also, and I was unaware of this, but he did a lot of the character designs for Chrono Trigger, the Super Nintendo game. You can tell when you look at the hair. But here's the thing. I thought. They borrowed. Yeah, I just assumed it was kind of just the style of the time.

Yeah, right, yeah. Which I think it certainly was. Yes. Because his influence sort of made that the kind of default JRPG design, which is incredible. I've always loved those designs. I didn't know who was behind those. As I understand it, he also pioneered the idea of what we call Chibi now,

which is like the little, you know, you see, it used to be called SD for Super Deformed, which is like those little versions of characters. Like when you see like Gundam, but you see like a cutesy little version. Oh, okay. Like the kind of little boxy guys. Almost like a proto-funko-pop kind of thing. Yeah, or you see a little, you know, Vegeta, but he's little Vegeta.

Yeah. You know? Not like a baby. No, but he's like, eh. Okay, cool. No, I didn't know that actually, yeah. Now you do. He's also a lot.

That's some news you can use. I'm happy to use it. I mean, he's so many people's introduction into manga or anime or both. And as you mentioned, like the imagery that he used, it's carried over into so much stuff. The characters have become iconic, like the battles. And if you look back at a lot of that animation, it's very basic and small movements and, you know,

a lot of pauses and all that kind of thing. But I just when i when i first saw it i would think i was 16 or 17 i can't remember and i was going to my summer job which i hated and every morning i'd watch this episode of dragon ball and it was in like the start of the cell saga and at the start i'm like i don't understand i don't know what this is like i've never i've kind of vaguely heard of it and it just drew me right in i'm'm like, this is incredible. I don't know if you've seen the Cell Saga. I mean, it goes forever. All of it goes forever.

It's just amazing. I just loved it. You know what I saw a lot this week? It was a lot of people on Twitter saying stuff like, I was going to give up on this thing. Then I thought to myself, would Goku give up? And he wouldn't, so I didn't give up. He'd die. Sometimes he'd die sometimes he'll die and come back but that's not giving up yeah yeah no you're absolutely right who was it there

was a teenager who got stung by a bunch of bees i think there was a story i remember that like and he was stayed alive by like trying to like channel the spirit of goku yeah exactly when it obviously works so that's that's awesome probably modern medicine helped yeah that was i mean that also definitely played a part. But there's been like spin-offs and movies like live action and otherwise. The animated movies still do incredibly well. I can't remember the name of the last one. Superhero was the last one.

Yeah, but that did – like they always just land like really, really well like around the world. Video games like this. Budokai. Budokai 3 in particular. That's a game we played a bunch of times. We broke a number of controllers. Yeah, playing love that game i love that game so much i think it's such an incredible fighting game but i'd love to have another one but uh that's people

don't know it's a 2d fighting one but it's there's other ones there's like 3d arena ones but that that's my favorite one but um yeah just amazing stuff genuinely and i don't know what this means for like the series. I think, you know, people, I think on the whole, are pretty happy with Dragon Ball Super, but I wonder is this going to be the end of it? I would say it's very unlikely. Like, this will be, I don't know, taken in any number of directions.

I mean, they already did that with GT, you know, before he passed away. But, yeah, I think, yeah, the influence of this guy, like even if you don't know it you would have seen its influences or recognize the imagery like and it's also i can't remember if i saw say this but it kind of it like unites a lot of people from just different parts of the world different like whether you're rich or poor or whatever like it just it's one of those properties that just brings anime fans and bodybuilders. That's right. So on and so forth.

They're often the same. Yeah, one and the same. But yeah, notably sort of a recluse in the last few decades, I think so. Yeah, absolutely. But yeah, I mean, again, incredible, like incredible influence, incredible work. It makes me want to go back and watch a bunch of this or even read some of it, which I haven't really done,

or at least play that game. Yeah, sure, absolutely. Or watch it on YouTube. No, I want to go back and watch a bunch of this or even read some of it, which I haven't really done. Or at least play that game. Yeah, sure, absolutely. Or watch it on YouTube. No, I want to play it. I want to play it based. I still have my PlayStation 2 and probably a working controller that we didn't break. Yeah.

Yeah, good stuff. I just have a little, because he used to do like little autobiographical cartoons of himself and there's one that always struck me. It's a picture of him and it says, this is me in paradise. He used to draw himself as a little guy with a gas mask so he couldn't see his face. him and it says, this is me in paradise. He used to draw himself as a little guy with a gas mask so he couldn't see his face. Right. But it just says, this is me in paradise. And he's sitting at a desk and he's got

cola, crackers, a cigarette, model car, and a dirty magazine. And his speech bubble is saying, ah, I see. Yes, yes. Perfect. Yeah. Ah, great stuff. Yeah. So, yeah, again, 68. not a great innings, but an incredible legacy. And speaking of legacy, Mason.

Oh, here we go. I mean, Deadpool and Wolverine. Oh, that's a legacy. That's going to leave a legacy. I was thinking this week. Or it's going to do okay. Yeah. Well, I think it'll do very well.

I don't know about the reception necessarily. I think there will be the criticism of this is just a cavalcade of cameos. But do you think they'll throw in some heart? Because often Deadpool will do some heart. Sure. Be like, his wife died and I'm sad or whatever he does. Yeah, for a while and then we bring her back. Then we bring her back using a time machine, et cetera.

Is she in the – she's in the trailer for this new one? Yes. Is Domino in it? That's a thought I had recently. I didn't see. I'm not sure she's back. I can't remember. Let's just assume that they're all back except for one particular actor.

Wolverine? No, yeah yeah he's not they had to cut him all out yeah they lost their rights uh karan sony who plays dopinder people might remember the cab driver from the first two movies he said this new mcu version is ultra secretive there are lots of surprises let's just say a lot of people travel to london but one person we know didn't travel to l even though he might live in London is Vinnie Jones. Oh, sure. Who played the juggernaut in X-Men 3.

But not the juggernaut in Deadpool. No, that was CGI and Ryan Reynolds' voice, yeah. He said, I spoke to the director and I just said, it's such a drama putting that suit on mentally and physically. It had its mental toll as well because you're in it and you can't do anything all day. You can only drink from a straw. So he couldn't strike a deal for Deadpool.

But, I mean, Deadpool is my favorite movie fucking of all time. Favorite movie? Of fucking all time, more or less. More or less. More or less. More or less, yeah. I really wanted to do it. But I don't think they had the budget to put me in the suit.

I also like Spirited Away. You can put him in the suit if you just put him in a big like a one, what's it called? Like a mechanic wears. What are those called? Like a boiler suit. Just put him in a padded boiler suit. Or just put him in the onesie.

The grey onesie with the dots. Exactly. But anyway, so he's not doing it. But I guess if you're going to put him in, you'd have to put him in the weird muscle suit, right? Because that's the version. I mean, if they went to Vinnie Jones, who knows who we're going to be getting in this movie, Mason? There's going to be so many cameos.

We might get one-inch Spikes guy back. I would love to see one-inch Spikes guy. I would love one-inch Spikes guy back as a reference to his one-inch Spikes. Oh, okay, yeah. Like maybe Deadpool's like, get a load of this guy. Get a load of Spikes. Having trouble with your one inch or whatever. He's also one of the Inhumans.

Yes, and he was recently in Netflix's Avatar. That's true. Which was a show that came out. Correct. Do you want to talk about that? No. Well, here's some news. Okay, great.

There's a show that came out recently. What's it called? It's not important. It's an adaptation. It's not of a manga or an anime, but it's like the studio who worked on it, they styled it that way. It's a guy who's born and he's the avatar. Some people call him the last airbender.

And there's powers and there's different nations and whatever, and he has to unite everybody and beat up all the fire people. Interesting. Anyway, I had one series. People sort of didn't like it or thought it was fine okay sure yeah great but they've confirmed middling results middling uh returns there but it is returnsing uh for seasons two and three whoa uh presumably because all the cast are gonna age out what the main guy at least um so yeah not really surprising because

apparently it's done extraordinarily well on streaming um i mean we watched you're welcome netflix yeah thank you you're welcome very much we said it was fine i'll be not as good as rebel moon which we'll talk about in a bit which is the biggest i have something to say about rebel certainly did uh he certainly could go to joe rogan be like yeah actually it's a documentary. It's all real. Rogan would be like, this is real. It's real. His fact check guy would be like, unconfirmed. Unconfirmed whether it's real or not.

So, yeah, Avatar is getting another two seasons. I mean, I guess if you're happy, I mean, yeah, I would like to see it take on a kind of a life of its own. Sure. Because I was kind of mixed on that first season. Uh-huh. And it makes sense that doing so well that they do it like this. I guess this might mean that they'll film the seasons pretty close

to back-to-back together. The original series is only three seasons as well, so we'll go from there, won't we? Sure will. Maybe you'll learn waterbending, which you were supposed to do in the first season, which he didn't. But he does in that cartoon, Mace. I see.

Okay. Maybe we'll learn it. Do you think that's the actor's fault? Yeah. He forgot. Yeah. But he should have done it. So, yeah.

Excited? No. That you'll have to watch that? No. No, no, no, no, no. Another sequel news. It was Mario 10 day. Yeah, sure.

March 10th. They always announce big things. They didn't really this time. Okay. But we are getting a sequel to the Super Mario Brothers movie, the one from last year. It's coming in April of 2026, so a couple years away. The directors Aaron Horvath and Michael Jelinek will return

to the world of Super Mario and his bros. He's just got one bro. What's Waluigi and the other guy, Wario? Are they cousins or are they just guys that fashion themselves off the Mario Brothers? I think that's it, yeah. I think they're super fans. Super fans.

Yeah, the super fans of the Mario Brothers. It should be nice. Don't be so weird. No, but they've tipped over because it happens sometimes. It does, doesn't it? They probably were super fans and then they met the Mario Brothers and the Mario Brothers were like, oh, hey, nice to meet you. We've actually got to go actually. We're with our family so Brothers were like, oh, hey, nice to meet you. We've actually got to go, actually. We're with our family

so we've got to go, but it's nice to meet you. And these guys just flipped. You know what I mean? They're like, I hate them. Because the people, you know, they're people on the cusp sometimes. They're like, we hate them. We hate the Mario Brothers. Is that what's going to happen to the people that I met on the weekend? I think so, yeah. Also, I should point out, it was very hot and I had my family

so if I seemed distractive or dismissive, which I probably was. Yeah. Which I aim to be. I heard you picked up a bin and started swinging around. I did, yeah. Get away from me. I just want to come across.

You caused a scene. You were like, nobody was saying anything, but you just picked up a bin. You were like, leave me alone. I want to be passive aggressive. I'm sick of being famous, you kept saying. I did say that a lot. So there you go.

Mario news. Excited? No. Why not? Because the last one was bad, I thought. It wasn't bad. It was bad. It wasn't very good, but it did exactly what it was supposed to do. Make 1.3 billion dollars or whatever. It did that, and it did the other thing which is showed us a game you can't play.

I think that's important. Yeah. Okay, which do you prefer, though? Look, you can get a power-up. Can I get a power-up? No. No. Because you're just watching this. Look, you can get a Mario Kart.

Can I get a Mario Kart? No, unless you purchase Mario Kart. Yes. Just saying. Just saying, yeah. So there you go. I wonder what the story will be. I wonder what world we'll get dragged into.

Probably Underwater World. Yeah. I would hate that. That's the one I don't want to play, Mason. I don't like the Underwater World. Yeah. I would hate that. That's the one I don't want to play, Mason. I don't like the Underwater World. What if there's a scene where they go to an Underwater World and it's just awful? Like it's really badly made and we all hate the scene.

It's unpleasant. Yes. You know? And they're constantly playing like a You're Just About to Drown. Oh, okay. The Sonic music. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, that bit.

I love it. Mario doesn't drown, does he? He's not a drowner in a lot of his games. He's not a drowner, you're right. In the 2D ones at bit. I love it. Mario doesn't drown, does he? He's not a drowner in a lot of his games. He's not a drowner, you're right. In the 2D ones at least. I think maybe in some of the 3D ones he does. Because he's siphoning Sonic's oxygen. Oh, is that out there?

You don't see that, yeah. He's picked up a special mushroom or something. Are you predicting? Yes. This is you predicting this? Oh, yeah. A Sonic and Mario crossover movie? Ah.

Because I feel like it's. Who owns? Where's the ownership? Paramount maybe does Sonic. Okay, all the maybe does sonic but you know i think they're built because i think they're doing do they announce zelda at some point recently or something i think they're building to a smash brothers something oh great so you know right maybe it's gonna be terrific you know sometimes master chief is there or whatever i don't know if he's there but you know they'll be like why is this guy there i don't know if he's there. But, you know, they'll be like, why is this guy there? I don't know. They got the license, et cetera. Yeah. Do you remember PlayStation?

Why am I here? Do you remember PlayStation Smash Brothers? Vaguely. It was like Nathan Drake versus maybe one of the guys from Killzone versus Jack or Daxter. Yeah, and do you remember DC, all the guys? Oh, yeah. And it went into, they did it. It's like SpongeBob and whatever else.

That one? Yeah, that one. And Bugs Bunny. And Batman was there. Wasn't that like last year one? Yeah, that one. And Bugs Bunny? And Batman was there. Wasn't that like last year? Multiversity? Yeah, that's the one. Was that last year?

Maybe. But then it's done. Is it? Yeah, I think so. I love playing that though. I play it every day. No, you don't. I play it every day.

No, you don't. It's time for a segment of the show called Executive Wisdom. I love it. This is a learning portion of the show. You don't want to call it Executive Decision? And then we do the theme from Executive Decision, the movie? Do you want Collings to put in the theme from Executive Decision? I don't know.

Is it any good? Let's find out, Collings. Just play a little snippet, but not too much that we get struck. All right, it's time for Executive Decision. I love that. Bob Iger was in an investors conference and he said, we're doing a lot, which is a great way to start. We're actually doing a lot.

We're actually working really hard. Yeah. In case you were worried. Do you want to hear the main title sequence to Executive Decision, James? Yes. Okay. Isn't that bad? Yeah.

It's a little generic, isn't it? Yeah. It's a little generic, isn't it? Yeah. It feels like the start of a Stargate spin-off series. It does, doesn't it? Yeah. It's like Richard Dean Anderson maybe this episode. That's right. Maybe if you're very good.

If you're good. That was written by Sammy Kahn and Jimmy Van Heusen, also known as James Van Heusen. Okay. So there you go. Head of the Van Heusen shirt company. Yeah. Wait, this might be a different thing.

I don't know. Anyway, executive decision time. Yeah. If we can't use the... Yeah. You can use that. You can use that. There you go.

Anyways, so Bob Iger said at his investor conference we're doing a lot which again is important because you gotta you gotta you gotta appear to be busy yeah we're doing the most we're doing the most of any executives which to be fair isn't a lot not a lot when we talk about improving our film slate there are really three approaches one you have to kill the things you no longer believe in. Sure, absolutely, yeah. Even before you know whether you believe in them or not, just kill them in advance.

Exactly. And that's not easy in this business. We've actually made those tough calls. We're the real heroes. We've not been public about that. Yeah, I think there's been a lot of Star Wars movies that have been killed that we are unaware of or aware of. Maybe we've killed Armour Wars.

Yeah. I don't even know yet. Has it been filmed? I don't know. I'll flip a coin on the golf course. Maybe I'll kill it or I won't kill it. Anyway, I don't know what the other two things are. But also on THR said, they reported that he also said, a lot of people think it's audience

fatigue. This is in terms of the MCU. It's not audience fatigue. Whoa. Yeah. They want great films. And if you build it great they will come kevin costner and there are uh countless examples of that kevin costner uh some are ours and some are others oppenheimer is a perfect example of that just a fantastic film focus is really important now i love yes that he mentioned one of his own

films well that's true he didn't go what of his own films. Well, that's true. He didn't go, well, what's, you know. What's a good movie we made? Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania. That's a good example of one of our movies that's very good. It's Oppenheimer-like. It is. It involves science, like Oppenheimer did.

Atoms. Atoms. Yeah. Until somebody builds a bigger bomb. Big size. Big size, yeah. Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania. That's right.

But I love that it's, what he's arrived at is we should just make good movies. Yeah, sure. That is true. Like at least he's saying it. He is saying it. At least he seems to know that because I feel like – He's undeniable. I mean he seems to be working harder because a lot of people don't recognize

that if you make something good, more often than not people will see it and then they'll tell other people and then those people will say, yeah, and it's a snowball effect. But, you know, I don't know. I'm not, I'm not making any executive decisions. I'm just here reporting. You don't know if that's the thing. I don't. Let's change the channel over to Warner Brothers executive, Jean Braik.

I didn't know we're watching executive TV. Yeah. The only satellite service for executive saying stuff. Correct. That's right. Warner Brothers executive, Jean Braic, JB Perrette.

That's his nickname, JB. I love that. That's relatable. Yeah. He was at a recent Morgan Stanley speaking event and he said, they were talking about- Must be nice.

You have so much time, you can go to a Morgan Stanley speaking event. Can you imagine? Yeah. Yeah. So he's talking about the state be nice. You have so much time, you can go to a Morgan Stanley speaking event. Can you imagine? Yeah. Yeah. So he's talking about the state of the games industry. And, you know, recently Warner Brothers have had a big failure with the Suicide Squad versus the Justice League not being a good game

that was killed by microtransactions and always online and a looter shooter that goes forever and everyone hated it. That's a live service game. Correct. Better move away from live service games then. Well, it's interesting. Let's find out what he says here. The challenge we've had – They should move towards know it's controversial but they should move towards something that was a big hit for them like their hogwarts hogwarts game

oh yeah it's just a the game where you go and you go to school and you shoot a wizard with a wand and whatever exactly straightforward stuff yeah no he said uh let's find out the challenge live service ideally no no no challenge we've had in our business historically, there has been AAA console-based. That's what the Hogwarts game is. It's a AAA game. That's what he said. There's a great business when you have a hit like Harry Potter. That's what I'm saying.

Also, like, it's not called fucking Harry Potter. You should know that. Come on, man. Come on. It's called Harry Potter. It's called Harry Potter, no subtitle. It doesn't even say the game. It's just a box and it says Harry Potter on it. You like that. That's what it says. Harry Potter, no subtitle. It doesn't even say the game. It's just a box and it says Harry Potter on it.

You like that. That's what it says. Harry Potter, you like this. Why don't you buy it? $80. $80. It's a pretty good deal. It makes the year look amazing.

And then you don't have a release or we also have disappointments. It just makes it very volatile. Brackets, Suicide Squad he's talking about, which didn't do well. He said, rather than launching a one-and-done console game like Harry Potter. Big hit. Yeah. How do we develop a game around, for example, Hogwarts Legacy?

Oh, there, he does know the name. Yep. Or Harry Potter. That is a live service where people can live and work and build and play in that world on an ongoing basis. How do we do that? That's a great question. Combine the worst of all possible worlds. I love how we also, I like in that world on an ongoing basis? How do we do that? That's a great question. Combine the worst of all possible worlds.

I love how he also, I like how in that phrasing he's like, how do we make a game where you live and work but also play, I guess, and you can never leave it. And it goes forever. It goes forever, yeah. And we can charge a fee. We can charge a fee over and over again. Yeah.

How do you do that? I don't know. Fucking hell, man. Imagine seeing those two things and being like, how do we do the worst version of that? Yeah. Let's pick and choose the worst bits. And again, whatever you think about Harry Potter, it's bad. It's sold. Like a lot of people... It's sold

so much. Because people wanted to walk around a school and like, and find an owl and write a note. And a lot of those people aren't allowed to do that anymore, walk around a school. So this is their only outlet to walk around a school and find an owl and write a note. And a lot of those people aren't allowed to do that anymore, walk around a school. No, they're not allowed. So this is their only outlet to walk around a school. Exactly, and you find a mystery and a troll comes out and he goes,

hello, I live here. We're in the toilets. It's not weird. You're allowed to do that. It's a magical world. That's right. Where a troll can live in a toilet. But just like you've got one very clear success

and one very obvious failure. And you go, let's lean into the failure. Let's lean into it. Because that's the one that could potentially make us more money. Because we can push through the failure to success. Yes. That's executive thinking and that's an executive decision. There are examples of like.

Wait, wait, wait. Oh, sorry. That's really good. Thank you. That was it, actually. I remember. That was it. Like, there are examples,

and we've talked about this, of like live services games, but they're built as live services games where you don't pay $80 and they trickle out the content and the game is bad. Like, it's an online whatever. Looter Shooter.

There's a million of them. And they're like, a lot of them are very successful, but there's only a handful that can be successful at a time. But they have to develop communities organically. The gameplay itself has to be solid. Helldivers 2 is apparently very good. And it's non-political, which people love. Yeah, that's true. I think that's cool.

That's the perfect example of a game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're just fighting robots and aliens and stuff. Don't worry about it. It doesn't mean anything. Don't worry about it. So like, yeah, you should make games like that if you want to. But do it like, look at a good one and maybe try and replicate, at the very least, some aspect of that. Or whatever. I'm not making executive decisions.

Did you say there was a rumor this week that they cancelled that Mandalorian first-person shooter because there was no lightsabers in it? So, like, well, there's no lightsabers in this. People won't even get it. There's never been a Star Wars game without a lightsaber in it, except for most of them. Yeah. Yeah.

What do I know? That's right. Again, I'm not making executive decisions. The movie or the literal decisions. Couldn't make an executive decision these days. Not in this economy. That was executive decision. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

Wait a minute. That's the theme to executive decision. I know, right? Madam Web News. Yes. It has come out. Don't worry. We already watched it.

We did, yeah. Don't worry. We don't have to watch it again. Well, we probably will at some point. Yeah. This is why I bustle the magazine. I know, the bustle, the magazine for women. Whatever, yeah.

So Dakota Johnson was talking about being in that movie and she said, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The dark time of my career, way back two, three weeks ago. Yeah. I had the LA premiere for Madame Web, then went to Mexico City. I had pneumonia and was on steroids and the nebulizer

and doing all these little things. And I was really, really sick and felt horrible. I looked horrible. I was like, ugh. And then this movie came out and I was like, I can't take any of this seriously at all. I don't know. Unfortunately, I'm not surprised that this has gone down the way it has

in the reception and whatever. And I don't make sense in that world. So she was like, yeah, just, I mean, she's been distancing herself from this movie ever since. Before it came out. From Black and Remember. Yeah. Yeah, so it's not really surprising.

But apparently. I think in her, like when Melanie Griffith announced the birth of her child to Curtis Johnson, I think in that birth announcement she was already distancing herself from Madame Webb. Yeah. Oh, my God. But, you know, fate, you can't outrun it. That's true, yeah.

Which is the point of Madame Web. That is the point of Madame Web. Was it? Or you could, and you could change it if you wanted to. I think you could change it if you wanted to. And you could visit your mum in a dream. Yeah, you can kill a guy earlier than you thought you would. That's the moral lesson you've learned.

You go just to do it. Just get him. You could go now. That's the moral lesson is don't hesitate. No. If you're thinking of killing a guy, why not? That's the moral lesson Don't hesitate No If you're thinking of killing a guy Yeah Why not?

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We're Pepsi So then we have this from the Daily Mail Written in brackets Could be bullshit Because it's the Daily Mail Yeah But you know This wouldn't surprise me if it was,

but it's fun to talk about. Dakota Johnson is reportedly accused of dragging the film and failing to take any responsibility after admitting she hadn't seen the film herself before going to make several damning statements about the production. When they say, like, accused of dragging the film. Accused Dakota Johnson. Yeah, I would say.

It's just accurate. Yeah, she's been saying it a lot. Yeah, I would say. That's just accurate. Yeah, she's been saying it a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But also I would argue that with this kind of movie, of the level of quality that it is. Yeah, you get what you deserve. You get what you deserve, certainly. But also there is a certain segment of the public

who would only see it if it's being dragged by the people making it. You know? Absolutely. She's bringing in a certain amount of ticket sales from people going, oh, this is so bad and she thinks it sucks and she's in it, so we've got to see this. It probably did account for most of the ticket sales actually. It was the most interesting part of this entire movie.

Agreed. Yeah. So they're going to say lots of people at Sony are questioning her star power. Oh, come on, mate. Don't do that. Don't do that to a Hollywood celebrity. She's been in things. She's been in Fifty Shades of Grey. I have. And how she reacted

to this failure. I will likely come back to haunt her when Insider told, no, I doubt it. At least she'll probably stay at the same level of fame. I think so as well, yeah. For a bit at least. Yeah. It's okay to joke about your movie not doing well. Is it? Yes. Okay. And even lean into bad reviews like Sydney Sweeney did on SNL with her monologue.

So that was fine. But producers and Sony aren't laughing over Dakota's continued dragging. Because they don't know how to laugh. They don't. They don't understand what humor is. Yeah. It's like chewing. That's what they think.

And it is sort of, I guess. Yeah. So they aren't laughing over Dakota's continued dragging of how she sees the fallout of Madam Web. Now she isn't taking responsibility for its lackluster results. This is not her fault. I don't think she's particularly good in this movie, but I have no idea what it was even supposed to be.

She's not the drawcard. No. I mean, you know, I enjoyed her dispirited performance. But the draw card of this movie is that it's Spider-Man adjacent. Yeah. But it's not Spider-Man adjacent enough that anybody cares because guess what? Spider-Man's not in it.

There's an evil Spider-Man and three Spider-Women in the future or something. Yeah. But, I mean, the downfall of this movie was it's the dregs of the Spider-Man universe. Yeah, man. They just expected that to be a big hit. Yeah.

Not every movie is going to work. Disagree. But a lot of hard work is put towards even bad movies. I actually love every movie. Okay. So I would say Sony executives, keep releasing Spider-Man and Jason movies. Give us the Sinister Six.

Oh, man, I can't wait. But a lot of hard work was put towards even bad movies, and for your start, a shit on it is a bad look. They continued. Dakota is being looked down on. God. Get over it. Over a talk of the film because everyone in the production is thinking,

what if the movie was still the same but also a box office gem? Impossible. Yeah, impossible. What are you talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah. If this movie was the same. Yeah, imagine if this movie, imagine how bad it would be if this movie actually did really well and she was still doing this.

Imagine if the moon was also a piece of cheese. Can you imagine that? That would be cool. We could get cheese from the moon, eat cheese from the moon. A potentially limitless supply, or at least a couple hundred years worth of cheese. Yeah, what if magic was real? And similarly, what if this movie was good and a box office success?

Or they didn't even say good. What if it was the same? Well, if it was the same, that'd be great for you executives because you could just make tripe forever. Yeah, that's right. That's what they want though, isn't it? Because that's their ideal scenario. Imagine if we put no effort into this movie and we interfered with it

and everybody knew it was bad and then it made a billion dollars. What if we just put this movie into AI and said make a million identical copies and they all made a billion dollars? Oh, my God. I mean, what if? What's a billion movies who make a billion dollars each? How much is that? A billion dollars.

God, that's so much. Yeah, right? Yeah, that's really cool. So anyway, that's fun. That's a fun thing that's ongoing and forever. I love that Sony are just like, what happened? Where did we go wrong here? Yeah.

I don't know. You should figure that out. I wonder if it's because. Also, everybody knows but Sony. Have you noticed that? Yeah. Like everybody who pays attention knows. If you were like, why didn't you see this?

I'd be like, I don't know because I don't know what it is. That's a problem. Yeah. Like that in itself is, you know, figure that out. But in the minds of, I think, these executives and a bunch of Sony shareholders, a movie, a Spider-Man movie and a Madam Web movie are the same movie. They don't understand why. Well, did you see they're re-releasing all the live-action

Spider-Man movies again this summer? To make up for this bomb? To make their money back? 100%. Yes. Yes, that's all right. At least they've banked some good ones. Yeah.

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That's sunrisechallenge.ca. Wow. Now here's some news, Mason. Oh, yes. Some wow-worthy news. Definitely. It's time for wow-worthy news. Yay! Our previous segment was called yawn-worthy news, and this is wow-worthy news.

All the previous stuff was wow. Except for the death. That was a big deal. You ever hear any news that makes you go wow? Let's find out. Let's go. Let's see if this is. It's by the JRE podcast, which is the Joe Rogan Experience.

That's right. It's what Joe Rogan is experiencing, and then we get to experience it via osmosis. That's true. We learn as he learns. Yeah, that's right. And then he forgets. And then the next person sits down in front of him.

And says something completely contrary to the previous guy. And he goes, oh, wow, that's also true. I see both sides. Yeah, that's right. And there's value in that. That's right. It's $100 million worth of value in that. That's right.

$100 million. So Zack Snyder was on and they had a big conversation about all sorts of things, directing and him as an actor and the movies that he's worked on. He's an actor? No, he's probably been in something. Probably did the zombie makeup on Dawn of the Dead. I don't know.

Yeah, maybe. But one of the things they talked about was Batman and his version of Batman. Let's talk about Batman again. Yeah, man. And how Batman, whether Batman should or shouldn't kill. Yeah. And this is what Zack Snyder said. He said, people are always like, Batman can't kill, right? So or shouldn't kill. Yeah. And this is what Zack Snyder said.

He said, people are always like, Batman can't kill, right? So Batman can't kill his cannon. And I'm like, okay, the first thing I want to do when you say that is I want to see what happens. And they go, well, don't put him in a situation where he has to kill someone. And I'm like, well, that's just like you're protecting your God in a weird way, right? You're making your God irrelevant if he can't be in that situation. So, yeah, and Rogan went on to say that Batman's rule of not killing is ridiculous given the circumstances in which he operates.

And then he goes on to say, so when the Dark Knight returns, there's a scene, I copied it in Batman v Superman, where he grabs an M60, he busts through a wall, and he grabs the M60, and in the comic book, he's like got this kid, the mutant has this kid with a gun to his head, and he's like, I'll kill him, I swear I'll do it. And Batman says, I believe you, and shoots him straight in the head. So that was the conversation about Batman killing.

I think also, I don't know, when you say let's see what happens when Batman kills, like what does that mean? I feel like even though he's Batman does kill, it doesn't mean anything. He's just flying the bat plane and blowing cars up with people in it and it's just like smashing cars into other cars and like it doesn't reflect it's not there's not a knock-on effect well yeah it's not meaningful it's not it's not there's no doing it it's not at the end where at the end of zack's night is justice league superman isn't like oh yeah by the way you did all those murders so you have to go to

prison i'm taking you to prison i'm gonna disable you with my superpowers yeah and i'm gonna take you to prison so you'll learn a big lesson yeah yeah i i think that's i know a strange way to look at it where it's like well i want to see him do that and i don't even disagree because there's been multiple versions of batman who has killed also across the movies i saw on someone posted in our subreddit where in the zach snyder cut subreddit somebody posted the batman kill count video i made like sure 400 years ago which resurfaces every now and then which which again keep trying to delete but the internet never forgets but also when i put that together it wasn't like see batman kills and it's fine it

was just like isn't this interesting that this is the version of Batman and I don't know. That Hollywood demands this. Yeah, and I guess if there was any commentary on it, which there really isn't, it's that maybe I would like to see a Batman who doesn't just kill people and it doesn't mean anything. That's the conclusion you drew. That was before Batman v Superman as well, and I know Zack Snyder has referenced it.

And I just want to get ahead of this again. That meme of the man flicking dominoes and at the bottom the first domino it says james mr sunday movies batman kill count video and at the the final domino is zach snyder on the joe rogan experience talking about hot yoga and and roids or whatever this hasn't i just want to clarify i don't think i had anything to do with this uh that's not me like defending myself i just mean it doesn't make any sense because he was he And roids or whatever. I just want to clarify, I don't think I had anything to do with this. That's not me, like, defending myself. I just mean it doesn't make any sense because he has referenced that video briefly, but it was long after this movie was made

or well into production or whatever. So as much as I'd love to have an influence on Batman versus Superman. Wouldn't we all? Wouldn't we all? But also, like... I like to think we are because we're the fans and he gave us what the fans demand.

That is true. So, yeah, I like to think we are because we're the fans and he gave us what the fans demand. That is true. So, yeah, I don't even mind when Batman kills. But the thing is as well, that comic that he's referencing, it's not even, it can be interpreted and I think it's what it is. Yes. And the animated version also does a variation on this where he doesn't kill. He shoots him maybe in the shoulder.

Like there's no bullet hole in the guy's head. So, yeah, even within that comic. I mean, Batman also, there's like different lines in that comic about how like he hasn't killed anybody for 30 years. I saw someone also mention something. So I was looking for this, like is there a definitive answer that he kills anybody in that comic? And he does use guns like a couple of times. And then there's that famous panel of him breaking the gun and being like it's a coward's weapon etc even though he's already he's been using and then there's the famous panel where he's like oh i forgot i am a coward and he

puts the gun back together and he puts even bigger bullets in does he yeah yeah and it works yep it's great incredible works so well but yeah he's wanted for a bunch of stuff throughout like the police are after him but at no point does it say like, and he's doing murders. Like, and he just recently did a murder when he shot the mutant or whatever. Yeah. The other thing is, I think. Oh yeah. Here's another thing.

That's why I distractified. So sorry, just quickly. After shooting the criminal, a new police commissioner puts out a warrant for Batman's arrest on charges of assault, breaking and entering and creating a public hazard. But there's nothing about murder. Oh, there's some receipts. Yeah. Also in any given universe in the, in the Batman v Superman universe,

again, we've talked about this endlessly. That's why I like it. I know, right? If it's a Batman who kills, why is the Joker still alive? Yeah. You know, the guy who, because, again, the guys in the trucks that are shooting a Batman and he blows them all up and destroys them and they're dead,

they were probably just there for a paycheck. Yep. Maybe. Some of them just worked for Lex Luthor when he was a legitimate businessman. That's right. They're just his security team and now they're dead. That's right.

But he won't kill that mass murdering guy who killed Robin. Yeah. Won't kill him? Interesting. Okay. That's the line, man. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

This is important. You can't replace the Joker. I think that line is really important because, and this is referenced multiple times, and also I should point out this is his interpretation. Like whatever, he's allowed to make a Batman that kills. Like I don't care. I should call him the Batman who kills.

The Batman who kills. Yeah. It's cool. It's cool. Like I really don't have a problem with anybody like having their own interpretation. Yeah, but also as well, a Batman who's put in a position where he has to kill people so he just does, that's not very interesting.

No, it's not. It's the Punisher or most superheroes. A Superman that kills or a Spider-Man that kills. Yeah, and Superman does kill. Like he has been known to have killed. And Spider-Man kills with his radioactive semen, as we know. That's right. That is a thing that has happened, yeah.

I mean, and also it's been explored. Yes. I mean this is sort of a very, you know, oh, imagine if Batman killed people. Well, he's done it in other stuff. Yeah. Remember the time when he was a Dracula? He was a Dracula at that time.

And that's more interesting, I think. I think, look, maybe if the movie was something like, and we're talking about a movie which is now, what, eight years old, where, you know, when you go to the future and he's killing in the future, in the nightmare future. How does he get there? How does he get there? And that's kind of something you want to avoid.

You know, I think that. I think Batman v Superman should have leaned way heavier on the nightmare stuff because that's more interesting. I agree. And then at the end he just. Well, he's going to get there eventually. Yeah, I guess that's true. And at the end, present day Batman goes, well, I probably shouldn't do that.

You know? I mean, I've already been doing it. But I won't anymore. I'm going to stop now. Yeah. It's an interesting idea of Batman realizing that maybe his methods are outmoded and deciding maybe one day he's thinking about, oh, maybe I should kill the Joker. But then he sees the result of it in the nightmare future.

And he's like, well, actually, that was bad, so I won't now. And I understand also there is like when you make the real world comparison, there is a lunacy to a man who does all of this and has someone like the Joker in the real world and doesn't kill him, right? Yeah. There is like there is a nonsensical like even a suspension of reality that you have to make for,

you know, but he's not real. So you kind of, you can kind of make those, you know, excuses and he does need that hard line, you know, for whatever, for his own reasons. Also because he's crazy because Batman is a crazy person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What if there was a, what if Batman is in a position, you put him in a position where he has to kill people, wouldn't that be crazy?

Well, I guess, but you don't have to. That's the thing, right? I find it, for me personally, more interesting. I guess he would then. Yeah, I guess he would. I guess he just would. It's really interesting that if you had, or maybe you put him in a position where he has to,

the Joker's got a nuclear bomb and if he doesn't kill the Joker, then the nuclear bomb goes off and it kills everybody in the world. What would he do? I guess he'd kill the Joker, but, I mean, that's not very interesting. No. I guess we'd all do that, but it wouldn't be that interesting, would it? Yeah. And then you wouldn't have the Joker anymore.

I find it more interesting that it's a no-win scenario that Batman is put in, and then you write a solution, which you don't just see on the surface, which is he throws a Batarang and disables the nuclear bomb or whatever, you know? Where you write a seemingly no-win scenario. Oh, but what if it actually was no-win scenario and he actually could have won it all?

Wouldn't that be... What would Batman do then? I bet he'd kill people with Mishanga. Okay, well, let's talk about this because he also said because it's like a no-win scenario, it's like the Kobayashi Maru. The Kobayashi Maru... I know what it is.

I know, but this is him explaining it okay right in star trek is the test they put a kirk through uh where there's no win oh they actually put every recruit to it that's true everybody has a guy with the command structure they put them through the kobayashi maru because they want they want to see how you'll react so they say okay we're going to make a scenario a test scenario where you don't win where there's no way to win and in that situation we find out what you would do in a no-win situation because if you're going to be a commander of a spaceship you're going to be in situations where you don't win, where there's no way to win. And in that situation we find out what you would do in a no-win situation because if you're going to be a commander of a spaceship, you're going to be in situations

where you know it's life or death, and especially when there's no tricking it. There's no tricking death in that case. But Kirk does trick it. I was going to say, and the famous thing with Captain Kirk is he went in and he hacked the machine and made it so there was a solution. And I guess, like, that's, yeah.

That's what Batman does. You're describing it. That's what an ideal Batman situation is. He tricked out the situation so he doesn't have to do it. Yeah. Also, it's not real. The Kobayashi Maru situation, it literally isn't real. And almost every, like, expanded universe and, like,

spin-off media where somebody has to do the Kobayashi Maru, they trick it out somehow. Yeah, that's right. There's never a situation, there's almost never a situation where like a main character in the Star Trek universe is in the Kobayashi Maru situation and they go, well, I guess I'll just let all my crew die. Yeah. Because I'm the best and I'm the boss.

And I kept my cool. I kept my cool. So it's cool. Yeah. And also like, yeah, the Kobayashi Maru becomes – it becomes a winnable scenario for Kirk because it's – It's re-rigged it. It's written that way.

He rigged it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're right. He rigged it and it's written that he rigged it. And so he did it. So why can't you have Batman – why can't you rig it so Batman wins it? The Kobayashi Maru isn't – he's a situation and Kirk, like, failed and then he learned a lesson.

I mean, I guess you could say, like, later in that movie, Star Trek 2, like, he has a version of that with, like, Spock dying and whatever. But even then he brings Spock back from the dead, like, you know? Like, it's all winnable depending how you write it. Anyway, I thought that was just an interesting conversation. But, again, it's like, it's his interpretation and I don't have a problem with, Warner Brothers gave him the keys

and the budget and that's what he made. That's right. And that's what he thought was fun and interesting, even if his interpretations might not be what we necessarily take from it. But he also talked about some streaming numbers in regards to Rebel Moon Part 1, A Child of Fire. Yeah, great. Versus Barbie.

So he said, say right now, it's almost at 90 million views, right? 80 or 90 million accounts turned it on, give or take. This is Rebel Moon Part 1, A Child of Fire. First of all, I bet those numbers aren't accurate. I bet Netflix gave him those numbers so it wouldn't get out. And it's also like it plays on the home screen and whatever. We don't really know. I don't know the specifics of what counts as a view.

They're assuming two viewers per screening, right? That's don't really know. I don't know the specifics of what counts as a view. They're assuming two viewers per screening, right? That's kind of the math. I don't know. I didn't find anybody to watch it with. You didn't watch it with your wife on your phone? Just huddled around your phone watching Rebel Moon Part 1, Child of Fire? So you think if that movie was in the theater as a distribution model, that's like 160 million people supposedly watch that based on that math. 160 million people

at $10 a ticket would be, what is that math? I don't know. 160 million times 10. That's 1.6 billion. So more people probably- Well, what's that? I don't even know. I haven't done the maths earlier in my head. I mean, it's not a difficult math. So more people probably saw Rebel Moon than Barbie in the theater, right? No. Absolutely not. Look, as you mentioned, what does Netflix count as a view? And I guess if you want to go like more anecdotally, ask anybody if they've seen Rebel Moon. Yeah.

And obviously people have, but then ask people if they've seen Barbie. And they have. My parents have seen Barbie. Well, exactly. But they haven't seen Rebel Moon. You should ask them though. Can you call them right now, actually? No.

Yeah. They're busy watching Rebel Moon. So, yeah. And Red Notice. I'm not saying it didn't do well on Netflix. Also, there is a big difference between what I'm willing and what other people are willing to watch at home compared to pay money for.

Well, exactly, yeah. I mean, first of all, yeah, the idea of, well, it's always two people watching. It's not. No. Especially not Rebel Moon. Nobody's getting together. A Rebel Moon watch party. Rebel party rebel part one of child of fire athon yeah but yeah i mean the the difference is you are paying 25 bucks a ticket or whatever is to go see barbie

or you're like well i've already paid the netflix fee for this month so i guess i'll watch yeah i'll see what's on there i'll rebel moon i, I guess. Like people are going to see Barbie in the cinema, but if they see it, okay, I have to pay $25 to watch Rebel Moon. Probably not. No, absolutely not. And also the thing about that is Rebel Moon is, according to his numbers, $90 million. It's not even in the top ten Netflix movies.

So I think for Netflix this is not like a success story for them. Even though there's another one coming and I think it's because they film them back to back. And there's also the director's cut which is going to be six hours. Come on Netflix. Get with the times. You can always write this off for tax reasons and delete it forever. Oh, is that what you want? Yep, that's what I want. So at number 10

it's with 135 million views, which if you double that because it's two people a screen. $270 million. Is Extraction. And then I'll just quickly rattle these off. Then it's Glass Onion. Nobody watched that.

Nobody watched that with two people. Extraction's a solo dude movie. Glass Onion, The Mother, We Can Be Heroes, The Gray Man. The Mother? Don't know. We Can Be Heroes, the Australian TV series. No, it's the racist one. I think it's a Spy Kids kind. The Mother. Don't know. We Can Be Heroes, the Australian TV series. No, it's – The racist one.

I think it's – is it a Spy Kids kind of thing? I can't remember. The Grey Man. No. Leave the World Behind, Bird Box, The Atom Project, Don't Look Up, and Red Notice. Of course, yeah. Had 230 million viewers.

Also 460 million viewers. Yeah. Damn. Well, we're both watching it right now. A very significant portion of the population of the planet, really. Yeah. Well, we're both watching it right now. A very significant portion of the population of the planet, really. Yeah. So I think I'm not saying that, like, again, a lot of people didn't watch it, but it's just not true.

It just can't be. No. It's just not possible. No, no, no. So anyway, interesting conversation about movie making. I didn't watch the whole thing. I watched bits and pieces. He seems like a nice guy.

He sure does. Genuinely. I'm not talking about this. Do you think he's sick of talking about Batman? No, I think he loves it you know, bits and pieces. He seems like a nice guy. He sure does. Like, genuinely. Like, I'm not talking about this. Do you think he's sick of talking about Batman? No, I think he loves it. Oh, really? I think he genuinely loves it. Does he love it because he enjoys the character of Batman

or does he enjoy upsetting people who love Batman? I don't think he likes upsetting people. I mean, there was a moment where he talks about that people hate him and he's like, I don't understand why people would hate me, which also I don't get either. Like, just because you don't like his movies doesn't mean. Look, again, I've said this before, but I think to me the way they went into the DCEU, that appealed to me, the idea of, well,

the MCU's got this universe that is just sort of starting in a way, but this is the D, and to go, well, as a point of contrast, the DCEU is this universe that's been going for 20 years. Batman's been fighting crime for 20 years and he's kind of, you know, he's on the edge. I thought that was quite interesting. Yeah, absolutely. And I would have loved to see, again, I would have loved to see, you know, all the characters introduced, not as young guys who've just gotten their powers or whatever, but people who are, you know, like the Kingdom Come universe.

Yeah. Too far into it. Like, I would have loved to see, I quite like the first shazam movie and some of the second shazam movie but i would have i would have enjoyed to see shazam as like billy batson who's now just like a early middle-aged guy and he's kind of and he changes into an early middle-aged guy yes exactly yeah yeah or just like you know just a bunch of burnouts i thought that would have been interesting i mean not particularly thrilling necessarily but i thought it would have been interesting. I mean, not particularly thrilling necessarily, but I thought that would have been interesting.

But it doesn't even have to be burnouts. It could just be established. Established. Yeah, no, I agree. I mean, I guess that's also what they're doing with the DCU. Like it's an established Superman. Batman has a son at this point. You know, there's going to be, you know,

like Nathan Fuley and his guy Gardner, which means there's been a few Green Lanterns at this point, you know. So if you like that, Mason, get ready. Well, yeah, I do. But I think what the execution for me was lacking. Yeah. And one of those would be just Batman's just killing everybody. Again, I think that's a –

It's cool. It's cool. But it's the line that that character shouldn't cross and that's one of the defining characteristics. Maybe it is anachronistic or kind of old-fashioned. Yeah. But there it is. Did you see also this week that it's going to turn out that season one

of Peacemaker is no longer in continuity with the DCU, but then the second season is going to be? They're going to jump into a portal or something. Now, is this because I read a while back that it said something like, hey, the entire cast of Peacemaker is back for season two, and I'm like, well, funny you mention that because a lot of them are dead. So I'm wondering if Peacemaker Season 2 is going to bring back even the dead characters.

You know, like the guy who played the High Evolution. Yes, he's great. But is he just going to come back? I'm wondering if it's going to be a situation like a Crisis on Infinite Earths thing where Peacemaker is going to be the only guy who remembers the previous universe. I think that would work. He's like, aren't you dead? Aren't you dead? You're all dead. thing where Peacemaker's going to be the only guy who remembers the previous universe. I think that would work. Yeah.

And he's like, aren't you dead? Aren't you dead? Yeah. You're all dead. I remember, you know, and you could just, and he's the point of view character who's, and everybody thinks he's an insane conspiracy theorist already. Yes. The fact that he'd be like, no, I remember there were all these weird butterfly creatures

and they took over people's brains and you're all dead. There's a big bug that we killed at the end of it. Plus that would mean they don't have to redo the title sequence. That's true. Yeah, they shouldn't. No. You don't need to bug that we killed at the end of it. Plus that would mean they don't have to redo the title sequence. That's true. Yeah, they shouldn't. You don't need to change that. Don't change anything. Yeah, wonderful stuff.

Anyways, if you've got any thoughts on Zack Snyder, leave it below. I don't think anybody has any thoughts on him. I want to know. Don't you, Mason? Yep, I do. Great. Just a bit of an Academy Award update. Oh, it's happening as we speak.

Well, it's just wrapped up. It's just wrapped up. Night of nights. Night of nights. Let's all get in and out, Berger. That's the as we speak. It's just wrapped up. Night of nights. Let's all get in and out, burger. That's the thing celebrities do. It's become somewhat of a Hollywood tradition. I love tradition. They're in their tuxedos and their gowns and they're eating

a dirty burger. Can you believe it? They're getting grease on their tuxedos and so forth. Vera Wang would be spinning in a grave. That's right. Anyway, I've been on the one best picture. I sure did. And some other. Anyway, Oppenheimer won Best Picture. It sure did. And some other results. Cillian Murphy won Best Actor.

Was there ever any doubt? Emma Stone won for Poor Things. I just want to point out, Best Actor should go to Bradley Cooper's reaction face to not winning Best Actor. I'm so happy for Cillian Murphy. Good for you, Bradley Cooper. You're making the most of it.

Let's see. Best Original Song was what was I... You said Emma Stone won, yeah? I did, yeah. You mentioned that already, yeah? Best original song was what was I made for? You said Emma Stone won, yeah? I did, yeah. You mentioned that already, yeah? Best original song what was I made for, which is Billie Eilish for the Barbie movie. Oh, the Barbie movie. A bunch of other stuff.

Christopher Nolan for Oppenheimer. Yes. Well deserved. A couple of unusual. American Fiction won. Best adapted screenplay. I should watch that. So Barbie didn't come away with a lot of awards,

but it also made billions of dollars. Yeah, that's fine. In a way, that's an award in itself. Don't worry about it. Best visual effects is an upset. Godzilla minus one. What did it upset? Don't know.

Oh, I'll find out. I've got the list here. Hang on. That beat The Creator. That was really good. That was good. Guardians Volume 3. Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning Part 1.

I think you'll find that all of that was real and in camera. That's right. And Napoleon. That's a stacked year, though. Yeah. I mean, if any of those won, you'd be like, what happened to Napoleon? Yeah.

I mean, there would have been a bunch of special effects, but it's not as like, look at this alien. Exactly. It would have been the sequence on the ice. Yeah. The ice sequence. Oh, my God. Makeup and hairstyling. Poor things won over Maestro. Oh, my God. Makeup and hairstyling.

Poor things won over Maestro. Oh, my God. Bradley Cooper. He did that nose and everything. He did the nose and the wigs and everything. Nose and the wigs. Nose and the wigs. Damn.

My goodness. Yeah, Boy in the Heron won Best Animated. I still haven't seen that. And Robert Downey Jr. for Oppenheimer. Well done. Best Supporting Actor. There you go. And he also supports everything he did. Didn't he say that? He said that, yeah. Especially the communist stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That Oppenheimer. Well done. As a supporting actor. And he also supports everything he did.

Didn't he say that? He said that, yeah. Especially the communist stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what he said, yeah. That's right. Oh, my God. He said, I'm in support of whatever will get me into the most trouble.

That's right. Oh, and Emma Stone called Jimmy Kimmel a prick. Yeah. That seems as if as well. It could have been in jest. It could have been in jest. They'll get in and out together, then they get the selfie. It's been 10 years since the famous selfie. The selfie with Bradley Cooper. He's in it. He been in jest. It could have been in jest. They all get in and out together. Then they get the selfie. It's been 10 years since the famous selfie.

The selfie with Bradley Cooper. He's in it. He's in it. He's in it. And he's cursed because everybody else in that's won an Oscar. Ellen won an Oscar. Liza Minnelli, who's barely crouched down at the back, won an Oscar. Won an Oscar.

They all won an Oscar except Bradley Cooper. God. Remember one of the biggest news in the world is somebody took a selfie at the Oscars? Oh, my God. Selfies were big. Celebrities were big. They were big.

We loved celebrities. We loved selfies. We did, yeah. Taking a selfie. We did. Hashtag selfie. Hashtag taking a selfie. Hashtag taking a selfie.

So there you go. That's right. Anyway, who won the Razzies? Who gives a shit? Fuck off. Was that the same night? I think it was last night. Best animated feature, The Boy and the Heron.

I said that already, Mason. It'd be The Spider-Verse. I'm saying it again. Best Supporting Actress, Divine Joy Randolph for The Holders. Did you see that as well? There was some controversy over. One of the writers of Paddington 2 said that he'd written a script, I think it was called Frisco, and that Alexander Payne,

who directed The Holdovers, had read his script and he'd written The Holdovers and it looks very similar. And it's one of those things where oftentimes this doesn't mean anything. I don't think this does mean anything. You don't think this could? Well, I mean. It seems like there could be. No, if you read it, though, there's a sort of cover letter summary

that's like this is the same, this is the same, this is the same, and here's some scenes. And you go, oh, that's quite damning. But then the scripts are put side by side. And it's basically just like two people are in a room and they have a conversation. Oh, right. And that's big time ripoff.

I don't think it holds any water, honestly. You don't think it holdovers any water? I don't think it holdovers any water. You don't think it holdover maneuvers any water? That's right. Great. All right, should we move it along then? Yes, let's move it along.

Night of nights, just the stars running around and taking selfies, gets them in and out. You're a normal person, pretend to be a normal person. Just keep pretending to be normal. Be normal, normal. Let's all be normal. Let's all be normal. We're normal.

Normal. This is our life. Normal life. Normal life. Normal life. Ah! Okay. We're normal. Do you know what it's time for?

Let's kill a guy. Let's kill a guy in an out car park. Let's kill a man. Who's the guy? Doesn't matter who. Let's kill a guy. Let's get the footage afterwards. We're in a big cult.

We got a pentagram. Anyway. Oh, man. I hope they do have a big pentagram. I hope so, too. I hope to see it one day. All right. What's the time for?

It's time for What We're Reading. What We're Going to Read. That's right. We love Hollywood. Night of nights. Hollywood. I'm doing a thing. What are we reading today? Night of Nights. Hollywood. I'm doing the thing.

What are we reading today? Enough Hollywood talk. That's right. Which we don't like. That's right. We're one of the people. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we don't like that. I don't either.

And that pentagram stuff. Anyway, here's all the Hollywood movies I watched this week. What are you watching? Well, I caught up on some Oscar stuff. So I watched American Fiction. And? Because it's on Prime Video. It is.

I enjoyed it. But? Well. Here we go. Well, here's the thing. Oh, here we go. Is it based on something that you wrote once? Is that why you don't like it? That's exactly right, yes. Anything I don't like is based on a thought I had, and I never got any momentum to make the thing. Or kudos for it.

Or kudos, quite frankly. But for people that don't know, it's Jeffrey Wright stars as a novel author who is not selling particularly well um and he decides as a joke to make a a novel that he thinks appeals to like the most lowbrow or the most um like middling american sensibility something that will get him on a talk show exactly so it'll be he'll make a well yeah it's a a you's a novel about the black experience, but it's just all stereotypes, you know, and he does it under a pseudonym and then, of course, it becomes a huge hit.

Yes. And he has to kind of deal with that. I think it's good. Totally it's a little bit all over the place and I think that's because it's based on a book which had more room to sort of. Oh, okay. So it's like, you know, it's sort of like a kind of quick witty satire but then like he has like a family tragedy

and then it just sort of whips to the next thing and then there's another tragedy and then it's sort of funny again and it kind of, it doesn't really feel like it has the space to kind of really explore all that sort of stuff. Like I kind of wish it was just one or the other. Like I kind of wish it was like a fun satire. And there wasn't any kind of death of a family member tragedy in it.

But I think it's still good. I think it's still worth a watch. The Geoffrey Wright's very good in it, right? He is very good. I think everybody's very good in it. And it has a little quick Keith David in it, which again I think I've mentioned in previous episodes, just like any time Keith David shows up, I'm like, yes. And it's got Sterling K. Brown and others, which is really good.

But definitely worth a watch. It's a little bit like it's somewhere in between like, do you remember the movie Adaptations? Yes. It's a little bit that. But, yeah. And the movie Dave where Kevin Kline becomes president? Sure, it's exactly like that.

Look, I would say like as a watch, I think I'm like 90% successful. Okay. I'm like 90% successful. Okay. I'm just nitpicking. Okay. Because that's what I love to do. That's what you love to do. And I also watch Poor Things. What's Poor Things like?

Is it rude? It's a bit rude. It's a bit rude. Should I watch it with my kids? Yeah, watch it with your mom and your kids. Okay. So who likes it the most? Well, then we've got four people watching a movie.

Those numbers, get those streaming numbers up. Well, get them to watch. Give everybody in your family a phone and they can watch Poor Things. You can sync it up. You can have a Poor Things watch party. I could. I think, you know, very, very deserved win for Emma Stone. I think she's great in it.

And, yeah, good supporting cast. Watch Mark Ruffalo closely. I think he's about to, like, burst out laughing at the end of every cut. He's a very silly character. Yes, he is. I think he's about to crack, like end of every cut. He's a very silly character. Yes, he is. I think he's about to crack in every take. Oh, you don't like that? No, I do like it.

I think it's good. Yeah, it's quite surreal. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. Cool. And one more movie I watched, I watched Ricky Stenicki. Oh, they have a fake friend that they have to bring John Cena. Yeah, John Cena. And I enjoyed it a lot.

I think this should have got a cinema release. I think this would have done quite well. It's got John Cena. And I enjoyed it a lot. I think this should have got a cinema release. I think this would have done quite well. It's got John Cena, it's got Zac Efron, it's got two other guys. Yep. Other people. But yeah, it's about... Mason, it's got a 47% on Rotten Tomatoes. You must know that. You must know that. I think it is absolutely worth it for John Cena

alone. So, for people who haven't watched it yet, so, it's about three guys who as kids, they do a prank, yeah, so it's about three guys who, as kids, they do a prank gone wrong so they don't get in trouble. They sort of blame it on a guy they've made up called Ricky Stenicki and then it becomes kind of their go-to excuse guy. They've built a Bible, like a Ricky Stenicki Bible, and they're like this is what he's like and here's his life story

and blah, blah, blah. So anytime they want to get out of something or they need to blame somebody for a problem, they blame Ricky Stenicki and they put it in a – Very clever. But then they miss – one of them misses the birth of their kid because they're off partying in Atlantic City or whatever. Oh, and then they're like, where's this Ricky Stenicki? Where's Ricky Stenicki?

And it sort of feels like their house of cards is going to crumble, but then they've met an out-of-work actor played by John cena and they're like you've got to be ricky so we'll give we'll give you the ricky stenicky bible and i think john cena especially is really great he is he makes his live he's an out-of-work actor and he makes his living doing like a like a las vegas style review where he just does parody songs about wanking. And there's just like a montage where you see the show and it's all costumes and it's really funny. I mean, again, it's on Amazon if you've got Amazon, so it's free. Mason?

Yeah. No, it's free. Okay. It's basically free. We've got this big movie for free. We do have a big movie for free. I think generally it's worth it for that alone. Okay.

All right. I'll check it out. Yeah, check it out. I'll check out these three movies which I've been planning to see except for that last one. Yeah. And again, I've got a huge list of stuff. Here's some stuff that I've still got to see.

I've still got to see The Holdovers. I didn't watch May December. All of Us Strangers. Love, Lies, Bleeding is apparently very good. Oh, yes. And Driveway Dolls. Love, Lies, Bleeding is out this week I think. Yes, it is.

I do want to see that. And I think Driveway Dolls had a very very limited yeah release i think i could have seen it at like 10 30 yesterday morning yeah and i'm like but you didn't i didn't i didn't i simply did not have time you'll never see it haven't seen ferrari haven't seen the iron claw which got snubbed for oh yeah most muscular men yeah speaking of zach efron i i hear he did really very well in that better than bradley cooper better than bradley cooper because you got to do hair not yeah you do hair and muscles not a stupid fake nose that's all you do and i haven't seen it maybe he didn't put on a fake nose maybe it's his real nose and he's acting is that possible is that something actors so he acted

his nose bigger yeah wow i guess if you really embodied lynette bernstein nosied yeah m nosied m nosied m nosied him james what have you been reading well i've just read a tweet now this is If you really embodied Leonard Bernstein. Mnosed. Yeah. Mnosed? Mnosed. Mnosed him. James, what have you been reading? Well, I've just read a tweet now. This is for me. Oh, so this is it. No, no, I've got another thing.

It says, winning an Oscar now just means you won the woke contest. Nice. And Vivek Ramaswamy said, American History X is an all-time classic that wouldn't even earn a nomination if it was made today. Now, he's one of those. He's a presidential candidate. He was. He's just some bullshit guy. He's just some rich guy, right?

He scammed a bunch of people using his mum's company and stuff. People can look into it. He's basically like Pete Buttigieg, but like who sucks, but like worse. Yeah, great. So sucks more. Yeah. Great. So what was he saying? You couldn't make... You couldn't make American History X out and wouldn't win any awards.

Huh. Yeah. Because they made it already. I mean out and wouldn't win any awards. Huh. Yeah. Because they made it already. I mean, they made it already. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Crazy. God. Really good. Anyway, I- Besides tweets, can you think of a single other thing?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I watched the first episode of The Walking Dead, The Ones Who Live. Okay. Which I haven't watched The Walking Dead in, I don't know, the last person who pretended to die in that show. So do you recognize any characters from this? Yeah, so it's Rick. First guy, number one guy.

And Michonne. And it's their story and it's set like five or six years after they left the series. Okay. And it's pretty solid, man. Okay, sure. And nobody else shows up. There seems to be some consequences.

Any zombies? No, no zombies. Because they're all dead. Statistically speaking, they're all dead by now. Yeah, yeah. But I actually really enjoyed it. And by reviews, because that's why I go on, apparently it's quite good,

because I just couldn't with that show anymore, and I just kind of... Why not, though? Because it was the same thing over and over again. It was the same thing over and over again. I think they got a bunch of the characterizations wrong, and not even that they're different from the comics, because this is different from the comics.

Yeah, right. Like, what they're doing here is very different than what happens to Rick. I mean, there's some similarities, but, yeah, it's just like, oh, yeah, I remember these characters and like them when they were in good episodes of this season. So I think I'm going to follow up on this. I think maybe one of the reasons that Robert Kirkman has had this big success

with The Walking Dead and sort of big success with Invincible is this. Because it's the thing that he made? Yeah, it's the thing that he made, but also he seems to be willing to compromise on the narrative. Yes. He'll let changes be made kind of thing. And it seems to be, Invincible seems to be sticking to the story a bit closer.

Yes. Than The Walking Dead has. For the most part, yeah. But clearly they've gone, well, I think, you know, for the context of the TV series, it would make more sense if the characters were like this or what have you, and he's like, yeah, okay. Yeah, whatever.

Yeah, whatever. How much money can I have? Can I have another dump truck of money, please? Good on him. God bless him. Unless he's cancered, in which case in the future we take that back, obviously. Is there a Walking Dead series where there's like Walking Dead special forces or something like that?

Is that this one or is there another one? Yeah, there's a bit of that in this. Okay. Which reminds me, did you watch the Fallout trailer? Yeah, there's a bit of that in this. Okay. Which reminds me, did you watch the Fallout trailer? Fallout trailer. Fallout. Fallout. You should watch it now.

What's this for? Fallout. You know, the game. It's a TV series now. Oh, no, I haven't. It's good. You should watch it. Watch it now.

Fine, I'll watch it now. You can watch it now. I was thinking Mission Impossible Fallout. No, that was from ages ago. All right, everybody shut up for a minute. Shut up. God damn. That looks pretty good, right?

That looks really good. Yeah. I'm very surprised by that. Me too, because we saw some initial... First trailer was like, it's fine. Yeah, and there was some initial looks of Goggins as that kind of the ghoul character, and I'm like, I don't know if they...

He's not wet and weird enough. Yeah. Now he's pretty wet and weird. Yeah, yeah, but I mean, is he... I'm not 100% on the Fallout timeline, or not at all, really. Is he the same guy? Is he the same guy? Is he the same guy? Because he plays like a – you see him as a Vault-Tec salesperson.

And you see him in the suit earlier as well. Yeah, you see him in kind of like a – The blue suit. Yeah, the kind of like a Civil War era kind of guardsman uniform kind of thing. And then he's this ghoul character. I think he's been alive since the yeah because the the premise of fallout is it's a it's an old there's an alternate 1950s where america is destroyed in a nuclear war but a bunch of people survived in these vault tech vaults and hundreds of years later they've emerged

into this weird society it's like the movie blast from the past it's exactly like the movie blast from the past that didn't have a new yeah but i mean i, I guess we got to look at all the, you know, a bunch of different factions like the Brotherhood of Steel and their kind of mech suits. Yeah. Looks like a lot of fun. We got Matt Berry as a robot, a Mr. Handy robot. Maybe he'll be a funny robot, unlike when he was in Star Wars.

He was just like a whatever robot. He was a whatever robot. And the main actor, Ella Pennell, she was in Yellow Jackets. Oh yeah, like Yellow Jackets. Great stuff. This looks April 11th I think it said, so that's cool. Well that's something I will dip into. All episodes as well, released at one time.

Should we move into the next segment of the show? Let's move into the next segment. Woo! The classic one was Letters, oh letters We love you, some letters They're only a day away I know they're here right now We're going to do letters Damn, it's the letters segment of the show Mason, do you have a letter?

Tell me what it is I do have a letter What is it? I'll find it, hang on While you're doing that If you do want to reach the show Hashtag WeeklyPlanetPod on Twitter or WeeklyPlanetPod at gmail.com.

Here's an email from Owen. Hello, Owen. He says, cool movies. Oh, I love cool movies. Hey, James and Mace, I've been listening to the pod since I was in middle school and now I'm graduated from college and working second shift as an engineering technician. What? Second shift. You guys have always made me laugh. Is that the better shift? I reckon it probably is. Yeah.

You guys have always lifted my spirits if I ever needed it and currently making my way through the entire pod from episode one, which keeps me more than entertained, when all I have to do at work is scoop dust every two hours and punch in a few buttons on the computer. That's pretty cool. What, do you live in the bloody Fallout universe? Yeah, what are you, fallouting?

What are you, fallouting? After Dune Part 2 and the first image of Tron Ares this week, it got me thinking about my favourite movies that, regardless of quality, just have extremely cool universes or interesting pieces. Oh, okay. Do you guys have any movies, good or bad, where you thought something about it was just super cool? God, that's a great question.

Rebel Moon, I think, could be super cool. I totally. Like a weird space something universe where there's a whatever? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's also just Star Wars. Yeah. Again. But sexy.

You know what? And in referencing this, thecau the snyder verse super cool universe yeah absolutely yeah the the army of the dead universe super cool universe yep because it's just it's it's um you know it's it's vegas but zombies what a cool idea i know right cool premise i don't hate that movie yeah Yeah. Yeah. 300. Super cool universe. Cool guys. Greek mutants. Cool guys.

Just a bunch of Greek mutants. Cool guys. Cool guys. Cool history. They're very cool, I think. Cool and legit. What else? Watchmen.

The movie. Cool universe. Cool. Cool universe. Cool guys in it. Cool dudes. Everyone's cool. They're all my heroes.

They're all cool. God, what's a good universe? Because I'm trying to think of a universe that's like, I like that idea, but it doesn't feel like it. You know what? The invention of lying universe. Right? Could be a cool universe.

It's not a cool universe. It's not a cool. The bright universe could be a cool universe. Oh, yeah, that could be a cool universe. It could be a cool universe. What's going on out there? It's exactly the same, but there's an elf city or whatever. Yeah.

That could be a cool universe. Oh, wait, I'm thinking of Brightburn. Brightburn is a cool what's going on out there it's exactly the same but there's an elf city or whatever yeah that could be a cool universe oh wait i'm thinking of bright bird bright is a cool universe yeah yeah no but bright is it would be a cool universe if they said okay well for people who don't remember it it's it's it's it's orc it's the movie orc cop yes it's what if there were orcs and elves and what have you in the real universe and that would have been cool because the the premise was hundreds of years ago or thousands of years ago. Yeah, man. The fantasy world emerged into the real world and that would be cool

except it's basically exactly the same as the regular world except now there's orcs in it or whatever and they wear do-rags. Yeah. And it's saying something but who's to say what? I don't think it's saying anything. Okay, cool. Sorry. What about Avatar?

Is that a cool universe? I mean it's our universe but the future. Yeah, that's cool. It's a blue planet. Have's to say what? I don't think it's saying anything. Okay, cool. Sorry. What about Avatar? Is that a cool universe? I mean, it's our universe, but the future. Yeah, that's cool. It's a blue planet. Have you just Googled cool universes? Yeah, I have cool universes. I said cool universes, best movie universe is bad movie. Whoa.

Yeah. And you think Google is going to understand that? Yeah, probably. What about the Mad Max universe? That's pretty cool. I don't know if it's cool. You don't think it's cool? No.

No? What about the Breaking Bad universe? I don't think that's cool at all. Did you see a video recently this week? It's the lady who owns the Breaking Bad house, the Walter White house. Oh, she's sick of people throwing pizzas on the roof? So as I understand it, she's always owned that house. Okay.

And she rented it out for Breaking Bad thinking it would just be a set in a show, an exterior set for a show. But apparently now people just keep showing up and throwing pizzas on the roof. So she's kind of mad and understandably. Yeah, that would be annoying. A lot of people were like, oh, why did you buy this house if you knew it was a breaking batter?

But she owned it first. And you know what? If they hadn't have thrown a pizza on the roof of that house in that show, it would just be a house people would go past and go, that's the house. Yeah, they would. That's true, yeah. Now it's a pizza house. Here's true, yeah. Now it's Pizza House.

Here's a cool universe. Go on. What about the Fifth Element universe? That's a cool universe. And that sequel, it's not a sequel, but he made a movie and it's got Dane DeHaan and Kyle DeLevingne. Something. Whatever it is.

Men of Tomorrow. Whatever it is. No, no, I can get this. That's a cool universe. Yeah. It's a shame about the director. Yes. and all this real life stuff oh man yeah i nearly had it city in a thousand city 100 100 cities and what's it called one planet per city it's called mr dain dehan and his city of a thousand valerian valerian 100 cities per planet that's exactly right the correct ratio of cities per planet we got there there, didn't we? Yeah, we did. And that's a cool

universe. I loved that. Again, it's a shame. I actually do like that movie. I like Valeria and the City of Planet. I like it too. I think it's probably miscast. I think that is probably true. Is it because Dandy Han and the lady look the same? Yeah, they have no chemistry. But they look the same. Do they? Yeah. I know they have no chemistry.

It's the lady who was in Suicide Squad. Yeah. That's right. And not the Suicide Squad. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. And not the Suicide Squad. Don't get it twisted. Yeah. That's a cool universe. That's a cool universe. Here's a question from William on Twitter.

Is he really? Yeah. He started dating his wife when she was 15 or something. I hate that. Yeah. Don't do that. That's why the professional is like that. Oh, he's the sad guy.

He's the sad guy. Okay. It's Luke Besson. Great. Yeah. Allegedly. It's not great, by the way. It's allegedly Luke Besson who directed that. Okay. Terrific. Well, he's the sad guy. He's the sad guy. It's Luc Besson. Great. Yeah, allegedly. It's not great, by the way. It's allegedly Luc Besson who directed that.

Okay, terrific. Well, this is alleged. Not terrific, just to be clear. Yeah. Hashtag We Can Plan A Pod. Hi, James and Maceo. Have you tracked Gerard Butler's quest to become, in his words, the Tom Hanks of action movies?

Films like Plane are very fun to watch with friends, but now they're making sequels to Greenland, Den of Thieves, and Law Abiding Citizen. Thanks. Yeah, I love what Jerry Butler's up to. I haven't seen him do much in a while. Do watch Greenland. Greenland, Den of Thieves and Law Abiding Citizen. Thanks. Yeah, I love what Jerry Butler's up to. I haven't seen him do much in a while. Do watch Greenland. Greenland's good.

Greenland. It's the end of the world something, apocalyptic something, which are movies I hate. Yes. But it's really genuinely good. It's got Marina Baccarin in it. Oh, sure. Okay.

Yeah, it's good. Watch Greenland. What is the – what makes it good? He's a dad and he's just got to get across the thing. Okay. Across Greenland. Is that a thing? Two are Watch Greenland. What is the – what makes it good? He's a dad and he's just got to get across the thing. Okay. Across Greenland. Is that the thing? Yeah, across to or from Greenland.

But yeah, it's the – I mean it's got the spectacular reaction-y stuff and whatever that you probably want to see. But it's the relationships in it work and there is a sense of urgency and it's just – the family unit works really well in it. It's very harrowing and well worth a watch. Greenland if you haven't seen it. You can watch the second movie, Greenland. Check it out, man.

Haven't seen Plane, though. Have I seen Den of Thieves? I don't know if I have, but I have seen Lord of the Binding Citizen, which I like quite a lot. Have you got a letter, Mason? Or I've got another letter slash tweet. You can have a letter slash tweet. I'll let you do that. Lexi says, Hey guys, have you ever covered the original 90s TMNT movies

for Caravan of Garbage? And if not, would you ever consider them on the show at some point? Yes, definitely. I know Sal's talked about them on our channel, I think when we took a break. But yeah, I would definitely talk about those movies.

We're due for that at some point. Did we do a commentary? Yeah, on the first one we did. No, you're right. You're absolutely right. We did. So yeah. Cool, man.

Cool. That trilogy of films. Well, quadrilogy, the fourth one, the animated is technically something. That's did, yeah. No, you're right. You're absolutely right, we did. So, yeah. Cool, man. Cool. That trilogy of films. Well, quadrilogy, the fourth one, the animated, is technically something. That's true, yes. Isn't it? Yes. This is from Luke.

Birthday shout-out to Claire's number one fan. Who, me? No. No. It's not your birthday. Dear James and May, so your episode breakdowns of WandaVision got my wife Anna hooked on the weekly planet, which led to her finding out about Claire and her music.

Woo! We went all the way from Canada to Melbourne last year to buy matrescence on vinyl. Oh my God. She already got a shout out from Claire on Suggestible, so life goal complete. But since it is her birthday this week, I was hoping you could give her a shout out to complete the set. Happy gosh darn birthday.

That's right. I'm thinking of flying all the way from Canada. If you could do it again for them. We would love that. Yeah, that would be terrific. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know you guys aren't huge sports fans, but we have become obsessed with the AFL since our time in Melbourne. If you're going to watch, what team would you support? We do have teams. I'm Richmond.

I'm Essendon. We're required to by law. But I'm indifferent. Sure. I'll watch a game. I'll watch a game, Mason. I'll see the Tigers get up. Oh, yeah?

To win the premiership flag? That's right. Yeah, that's right. I'm going to go on Broden's podcast, The Footy, at some point. Well, he asked me last year and then it didn't happen, so I'm presuming he's going to ask me back. People should listen to The Footy. Don't pressure him.

You don't even have to know anything about footy, by the way. Yeah, that's true. At all. Yeah, we're usually asked to talk about top movies about kicking or something. Yes, something. Have you been on The Footy? No, but I have. So you say usually, but you've never been on it.

I have been asked. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Not that I've been asked. Yeah, yeah. He meant it when he asked asked. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Not that I've been asked. Yeah. He meant it when he asked me. Oh, yeah. I suspect.

Okay. Yeah. Can we be the official Canadian Cats fans of the podcast? Absolutely you should, yes. Yes. You can, and you should. All right, got this one from, last one from Red Lion Flames. It says, hashtag Wicked Planet Pod.

Are you watching the completely made-up adventures of Dick Turpin on Apple Plus? It's very funny. I can't believe he was a real guy. Yes. I watched the first two or three. You watched that? It's got Noel Fielding, right? Yeah, it's good. I on Apple+. It's very funny. I can't believe he was a real guy. Yes. I watched the first two or three. You watched that? It's got Noel Fielding, right? Yeah, it's good.

I like it. It's silly. The trailer was very, it felt like, I've only watched the trailer, but it felt like a different era. Yeah. It was like the thing, it wasn't exactly this, but it was like if you think you know history, you don't know Dick or whatever, you know, one of those trailers.

It felt like one of those. It's not like that really. Okay. Were we having this conversation where like some of his stuff outside The Mighty Boosh doesn't work because it's too surrealist and there's no kind of like – Yeah, because he did luxury comedy after The Mighty Boosh. Yeah, which I don't think I've seen.

But this does have like a – like it's funny and he's funny in it and there's also like a narrative through line to it and it is surrealist. No, I'm really enjoying it. There's only been two, I think two or three, and then they're releasing them weekly on Apple+. But, yeah, I like it. I like it.

Here's an email from Scott. Scott? Scott Baio. Yeah, Scott Baio. Hi, Scott Baio. Hey, James and myself. I was wondering if you have heard of the Star Wars Cerveza Crystal ads that have been making the rounds recently.

Absolutely, I have, yes. Did you see those? Yeah. The story goes that when the original Star Wars was being broadcast for the first time in Chile, instead of cutting to ads, they stitched in beer ads, resulting in classic moments as obi-wan handing luca beer handed down from his father now uh find the whole thing hilarious and thought you might too and there are any movies and brands you think this should happen with now all of it so so if you

haven't seen them yeah so as i understand it this uh chilean tv station was playing the original star wars trilogy and they didn't want to cut to ads but they had ad space to sell. Yeah. So they – You don't want to break the immersion of a movie. Well, exactly. So they made these little sequences where you see maybe Obi-Wan's hand reaching for a cooler and it's got a beer in it

and then it plays the cerveza cristal thing. Now, the versions we've seen, obviously because it's Chilean, they'd be in Spanish. So the versions we have all seen have been people have edited themselves. Oh, okay. Because we've seen the ones in English. Yeah, okay, right. And I think some people have also taken a little bit of artistic license

with the timing and that sort of thing. But I think they are. As I understand it, the basic thing, it was real, and I think that's very funny. But can you find the actual original, original ones? I think so, yeah. Online? Yeah, cool.

But every version I've seen has been in English. Also, love the theme song. It's good, isn't it? Yeah, very good. Yeah. So, yeah. No, what was the question? Oh, could we?

Are there any movies and brands you think this should happen with now? Yeah, where are they? I mean, if they still made, like, scary movie, epic movie, they'd put this in. Scott has said, I'm madam, where Pepsi cut when? I mean, because they. Oh, God, yeah. It's difficult to do it now.

It's already there, isn't it? This only works as a bit because it's from an era before rampant product placement. Yes. And you're like, ugh, when you see like Vin Diesel hand somebody else a Heineken or whatever. Or Corona, depending on the movie. Yeah. It's like, oh, this is like funny and archaic. And also George Lucas didn't like this apparently.

Didn't he? No, that's right. But it works because it is against the rules. It's not subversive but it's kind of it's unexpected and this clearly was not the filmmaker's intended thing. So you'd have to kind of. Yeah, absolutely. There's no way you could do it now without a lawsuit.

Are you okay there? You got a huntsman on you? I don't know. It was a goddamn cockroach. It's all right. I had a cockroach on me. There's that one from the other day. The same one.

Wow. Never left. That's incredible. Anyway, that's all right. Anyway, go on. This isn't a cockroach infested room, by the way. I just moved when I was very clean. I cleaned it out recently.

I mean, how do you define infested? If you define it as infested as there's one cockroach and it went on your leg and you went, ah, there's a cockroach on my leg. I had to know very well. I just want to point that out. Then that's infested in a way. You know?

Yeah, I do know. I think, I don't know. I think I would hate it now. I think it wouldn't be funny because it'd be someone cashing in on this. Yeah, I mean, that's the thing, exactly. It only works now because it's unauthorised and it's ridiculous and I would gather that probably Lucasfilm had no idea it was going to happen until they saw it probably years later on like a VHS

or something. People won't excuse me. Exactly. All righty. I think that's the show. That is the whole show, folks. Thank you so much for listening. We absolutely appreciate it.

Thanks for sticking around. If you received this a little bit later than normal, we'll be back on track next week for Roadhouse. Just kidding. It's not out next week either. I think Roadhouse week is also Ghostbusters week, so we're probably just not going to do Roadhouse. Okay, right.

That's how that works. I'll have a bit of free time. I'll watch Roadhouse. I mean, we'll watch it. I don't know if we'll do a full dedicated episode to it necessarily yeah but if you want to

hear us talk Roadhouse of course we've got an audio commentary that's right we do but folks oh I think there's one out this week for Ghostbusters 2021

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