The Weekly Planet - 519 Best & Worst Legacy Sequels

Episode Date: March 18, 2024

It's an incredible time to be a fan of a franchise and then have that franchise get a movie a long time after the first movie. That's right, we're talking the best and worst legacy sequels covering Star Wars, Terminator, Tron, Dumb & Dumber and far too many more. We also talk the news of the week including a delay for The Batman 2, X-Men '97 head writer gets first, a trailer for The Crow reboot, Neve Campbell returns for Scream 7, Rogue Squadron is back on the Star Wars menu plus MCU rumors covering the casting of Ryan Gosling and Henry Cavill, Shang Chi 2 and more! Thanks for listeningVisit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show including video game let's plays, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Two Drunk Aunties with James (two episodes): https://www.youtube.com/@YourTwoDrunkAunties/videosPlease be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start03:38 The Batman 2 Delayed08:51 Venom: The Last Dance Moves Up09:45 X-Men '97 Head Writer Fired12:55 The Crow Trailer15:05 Neve Campbell Returning for Scream 718:02 Patty Jenkins Back for Star Wars: Rogue Squadron20:21 Ryan Gosling & Henry Cavill MCU Casting Rumours35:56 Best & Worst Legacy Sequels01:31:00 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:39:46 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetThe Weekly Planet TikTok ►https://www.tiktok.com/@weeklyplanetpodThe Weekly Planet Clips Channel on YouTube ► https://www.youtube.com/@theweeklyplanetclipsPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of The Weekly Planet, where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. And with me, as always, Nick Mason's here. It's great to be here. It is great to be here. And nobody can deny. We're not singing.

Just so you know. I wasn't singing either. Oh, what? I was talk singing. That's my normal voice. It's got a certain melodious quality to it. You know how they work that into a musical where it's just to get in between songs and it's like, I don't like this. Well, I like it.

I like it a lot. We're not singing. We're talk singing. It's different. A couple of things up top, Mason. I was on two separate podcasts but on the same podcast feed. What? I mentioned this the other week.

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podcasters. And also there's another bonus episode called Wine O'Clock. They actually filmed it. It is on their YouTube channel to Drunk Aunties, but it's also in various podcast feeds. It's a lot of fun. It's always Wine O'Clock somewhere. Is that their catchphrase? Yep, that's what they say. They can have it if it's not already.

They already have it. I don't need your help, all right? Can I get some credit anyway? Because I thought of it independently. You're going to have to speak to them, all right? You're going to have to speak to them about that. I'm not going to go into bat for you either, just so you know. Well, you're a bad friend, James.

That is true. That's true. So check it out. It'll be linked below if you are interested. Genuinely a really fun podcast and two wonderful people. I love having fun with wonderful people. Agreed. Even if it's virtually.

It wasn't. It was in real life. Yeah, but for me it would because- It would be virtually for everybody else, yes. In my ear holes. Yeah, that is true. Virtually in my ear holes. Is that their catchphrase?

That is their catchphrase. We're two drunk aunties and we're virtually in your ear holes. Again, they thought of this before you. They already know. Wow. They're already across it. They don't need your help. Damn.

I'm not going into bat for you. Anyway, we're going to have a big week this week, basically. Big week. Well, the topic is legacy sequels. And boy, do I have a list that we're going to go through. We've touched on them in the past because they're hot stuff right now. But I imagine they're really in the zeitgeist now because we're at the absolute death of ideas is the main thing. But I'm sure there's been a bunch in the zeitgeist now because we've gotten we're at the absolute death of ideas is is the

main thing but uh yeah i'm sure there's been a bunch in the past but now we're sort of at the you know i think maybe top gun maverick oh yeah really really kicked that off i think star wars probably kicked it off star wars also the star wars movies yeah we'll go through the list but going uh into that leading up to oh yes beforehand we've got a bunch of news and there's time codes below if you do want to jump to anything in particular. We're going to talk about delays for comic book movies but also one comic book movie moving up. Whoa.

All worth it then. Yeah, one is the opposite though. It should be the opposite. We'll talk about it. We're going to talk some news. I mean, I suppose that depends on whether you think, you know, delayed gratification is better than instant gratification. It's not.

Yeah, okay, thanks. What do you fucking sting? Shut up. Because of the sexiness, basically. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to talk some news from X-Men 97. We've got a trailer for The Crow, finally. Scream 6 is saved.

I don't know if it is. Also, it came out. Seven, then. Are we up to seven? You are up to seven, yes. I changed that one. It's too late now. Yeah don't know if it is. It's saved. Also, it came out. Seven then. Are we up to seven? You are up to seven, yes. I changed that one. It's too late now. Yeah, I know.

Star Wars is happening again, and we've got a bunch of MCU rumors, including movies that are and aren't going to get some sequels, some rumors around some potential casting, which might not be true, including Ryan Gosling and Henry Cavill. So let's- Sing about it. Not sing about it. All right. Let's just talk as we normally do.

Okay, fine. Let's start with this. Okay, fine, but I'm not happy about it. Good. Delays but not dismays. That's how we do it. I love this. Because the Batman has been pushed back to 2026.

Oh, I love that. That's ages away. The original date was next year, October 3rd of 2025. We're not even 2025 right now. I know. God. And now it's going to go to October 2nd of 2026. Now there's rumours and speculation.

Why is this happening? We know the Penguin series is happening. That's right. Apparently Robert Pattinson is going to appear in that as his version of the Batman. Well, maybe there's an episode where he gets frozen in a big block of ice in the iceberg lounge. Oh, right.

And he's stuck in there for a year. Yep. And Matt Reeves likes realism and authenticity. And he's stuck in there for a year. Yep. And Matt Reeves likes realism and authenticity. And Matt Reeves has to chip him out himself. Has to chip him out, exactly. That's right. Takes him a year. It's a live stream.

Yeah, yeah. Listen, Robert, this is real method acting. We're going to freeze you in this block of ice. Do I have to work out? No. Then I'm in. There's a number of things that could be happening here. It could be because they're working on the series.

Sure. So they'll release the series probably next year maybe or end of this year and then move into that. I think there is some stuff up in the air because they're going with the DCU and it's now James Gunn's universe. There was a thing this week where he said when he signed on for Superman, that was going to be a standalone thing. The idea wasn't to build a universe out from that initially

because they were like, let's see what The Rock does. Let's see what Aquaman 2 does. Yeah, yeah, but then, of course, DC management were like, you didn't think this was going to be a shared universe? Gun, you fool. You fool. Here's the thing because the director of the Batman that's supposed to be in their universe, the DCU.

Mr. Andy Machete. Yeah, that's right. The director of The Flash. He did The Flash in their universe, the DCU. Mr. Andy Machete. That's right. The director of The Flash. He did The Flash, and The Flash wasn't well received at all. For good reason. I don't think that was his. Name one reason. It was a bad movie.

Interesting take. Made me feel bad. It was bad. I didn't like it. It was ghoulish and awful. Why don't you sing about it? It was bad. I didn't like it very much.

Yes! That's perfect. That was talk singing, basically. Yeah, I know. So I think they're looking at, like, the Batman, and they're looking at, like, the director of this other Batman movie, and they're assessing. And I think, and I don't know this,

I think there's a chance that they're going to work this into the DCU. I think there's a chance that this becomes their Batman. Interesting. Because it's already established. People like the movie. It's good. It's pretty well. Yeah. Why roll the dot?. People like the movie. It's doing pretty well. Why roll the dice?

I think maybe, you know what, they're probably waiting and seeing. That's probably more realistic. Because I spoke to you yesterday, IRL, in real life, and you said. I didn't want to, but yeah. That's true, but I demand it's part of my contract. We get 10 minutes of non-podcast talking a week. Off air conversation. That's right.

And you said something along the lines of, I think, it might be cancelled. It also might be cancelled, yeah. I think it's all very much up in the air. Okay, but I think, and as I said in my remaining 30 seconds before you turned away from me and I was not allowed to talk to you anymore, I said I think the optics of that would be incredibly bad. Agreed.

But has that stopped them ever? No, it hasn't. It absolutely hasn't. But you would think with James Gunn having some kind of decision-making power here, you would look at this and go, okay, you're going to cancel the one DC project that people who love gritty realism and non-James Gunn stuff, the Batman, you're going to cancel that and replace it with the Brave

and the Bold Batman by a guy who did a movie that everybody hated. Sure. Yeah. I think also if they wanted to, they could make it Brave and the Bold, that universe. You jump forward 10 years, he's got a son, he's been through a few Robins. I mean, he's already like 35, 36 anyway.

Yeah. I know that he would probably want to do something, if it was his choice, someone bigger as Batman, and I'd imagine because- You mean physically bigger? Physically bigger and like, you know, I don't know. I don't know what he's doing. I don't know what he's-

But I don't- I think this is in flux. I think that's what's happening. I don't think there's a solid reason for this. I mean, i think probably the second theory that you've alerted out here i think might hold some water at the water i think at the end if the end of the batman part two superman shows up i think people's minds will be blown absolutely you know it's a cheap trick but it would work on me yeah so there's a little

hint for you dc and if it would work on me it would work on people as dumb as me. Yep. Which is most people, I think. Which is most people. So, yeah. That means it's going to be like. There's a reason that the IQ average is 100. Some of us got to be there. Yeah. So this will be five years also between.

Was that 2021 that movie came out? I think it was. Might have been. So that's a long time. It's a long time. But it's also a long enough time where they can cancel it and get a new one started if they wanted to. It's true, yeah.

Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what this is genuinely. Or if Pattinson's role in Mickey 17 goes so well, he wants to do Mickey 18, 19, 20, et cetera. Or maybe in between he's doing a Twilight reboot. Maybe he is. Well, that's getting an animated something, isn't it?

They animate rebooting it. Oh, yeah, maybe. Maybe he's doing that. Is that getting an animated something, isn't it? They animate rebooting it. Oh, yeah, maybe. Maybe he's done that. Is that the way to make it less creepy? Because you don't have to cast real people pretending to be teenagers? Yeah, that is probably the way, yeah. Yeah, because you can give them that sort of vague stylized look where they could be any age.

Exactly. Give them whatever hairstyle you want. Anime, obviously. Absolutely. Anime hair. That's right. Give them whatever super cool car he wants. Volvo.

Yep, that's right. Sensible Volvo. And then that's right, sensible Volvo. And then, of course, we got news that Venom 3, which is now titled Venom The Last Dance, is moving up from November 8th of this year to October 25th. So that's great. We get to see Venom conclude a little bit earlier than we thought. That's terrific.

But there's rumours they're going to work it into other Spider-Man movies and whatever. No, it's probably just. No, just the character. Not those movies. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. If it was me, I wouldn't.

I wouldn't. I just wouldn't. But what do we know? What do we know about anything? Yeah, so that's two movies, one of which is definitely coming out probably. That's the Weekly Planet guarantee. That's free, by the way.

Oh, yeah. And if the guarantee, if things don't work out, what do we do? It's free, so it doesn't matter. A free guarantee doesn't mean anything. That's true. No repercussions for anybody. Oh, that's great. We can say that all the time.

Say anything about anybody. That's great. Yeah. My goodness. This is by THR. X-Men 97 has been screening. I actually got some episodes sent to me. I haven't had a chance to watch them yet.

But look, I've seen some clips and pretty good, man. That's great. But, yeah, people are responding very positively to it. They're saying this is great. I just said it was great. No, not my opinion of people who've seen the episodes. Oh, okay. They're saying it.

So not feedback on your opinion. No. This is a fresh opinion. Yeah, that's actually the first feedback I've got on my opinion as of so far. I thought it was great. But people are loving it, which is super cool. But one thing that did happen this week was one of the head writer, Beau DeMayo, was fired mysteriously.

And all his social media accounts disappeared. Yeah. So he previously also wrote on the Moonlight series. Moonlight. Moonlight. Moonlight. The series after the movie Moonlight. That's right, yeah.

That's right. It's hard to say. I was going to mock you, but it's hard to say. Moonlight. It's Moonlight Inc. Moonlight Inc. Yeah, yeah. As well as early drafts of Blade, so who knows where that is.

Which draft of Blade? I don't know. And he completed writing duties. I mean, if they're still stuck for ideas for Blade. Are you going to say Blade Babies? I've got some ideas for you. For me? Yep.

I'm actually not interested. I get it. I'm going to just step in and say no, thank you. I'm setting a boundary. Okay. This isn't a veto. It's a personal boundary. Chim chiminy, chim chiminy, chim chim charoo.

I fight vampires and you can too. I'd rather not. He's on a rooftop. He's British. He is British, isn't he? But maybe now he's not British. I think I read somewhere they're going to – It was going to be set in London and now it's not.

Was he British when he had a voice cameo in The Eternals? No. I mean, they can change that. It was just sort of down very low in the mid-70s. He's British, man. He's British, yeah. So, yeah, he'd already completed writing duties on season two of X-Men 97, and he was lining up press and making plans to attend the Hollywood premiere

on March 13th. There was even loose discussions of a third season with members of his team. But early last week, Marvel and DeMeo suddenly parted ways. His company email was deactivated and the cast and crew were informed he was no longer on the project. His Instagram account, once a source for X-Men updates, was deleted. And at the moment, there is no official reason of the firing that's been given.

It's been pretty bad then. Well, here's the thing. We don't really know. There's rumors that people are like, or speculation that maybe there was some behind-the-scenes stuff, that there was some conflict there. There's also been rumors that maybe he had an OnlyFans account. Sure. Disney wasn't happy with that.

Okay. We don't know at this point. So I guess we'll just have to wait and see how this develops. Or we could speculate. Or we could speculate wildly. And that's our guarantee. Yeah. So we can't be charged.

That's right. Yeah. So I don't know. I mean, I'd imagine that if he had an OnlyFans account, that would be more of a personal project, which also, whatever. And not something to supplement his income if he's working on this show, presumably. I don't know.

I don't know what this is. So we'll see. Or we won't. We won't, yeah. So great stuff. We just never will. He'll never appear in public again. He'll never speak again. Yep. That's the Disney guarantee. That's right. We've got a lot of lawyers. We just never will. We might. He'll never appear in public again. He'll never speak again.

Yep. That's the Disney guarantee. That's right. We've got a lot of lawyers. We certainly do. Now here's some news, Mason. We finally have a trailer for the Crow reboot. That's right.

Starring one of the Skarsgårds. And his hair and look works better in movement and live action. That's what I knew it would. Yeah. I said as much, and that's my guarantee about a thing I said. Okay. I think this actually looks pretty cool. I do as well. I knew it would. Yeah. I said as much and that's my guarantee about a thing I said. Okay. I will say, I think this actually looks pretty cool. I do as well. I hate saying it. Yeah.

Because it's not everybody's aesthetic, obviously. Well, I mean, I looked at the comments on YouTube and people were not happy. Really? There was a lot of sticking fingers in ears and going, well, I'm going to watch one with Brandon Lee, Brandon Lee RIP. You can. You still can. It's fine. There's also 19 bad Crow movies after that one.

Yeah. Yeah. I think the action looks really good. It looks very gory. There's a moment where you see in the trailer he just fires a shotgun into a guy's head, point blank. And he gets stabbed with a sword. He gets stabbed with a sword.

Yeah. And look, I also think if he just looked like a carbon copy of Brandon Lee in the movie, people would say, oh, what's the point of this? Why even bother? We've got the Brandon Lee version. Brandon Lee RIP. I'm going to watch that today. Also, he's ripped.

He is ripped. It's true. Is that not good enough for you? Sure. So, yeah, I think that's at June 4th or June 7th of this year or something. Okay, sure. That might be worth checking out. We also have a commentary on that first movie actually,

the original BigSandwich.co, where there's so many movie commentaries. So this movie also stars FKA Twigs, who is a musician of some description, as well as Danny Houston, the dad from 30 Days of Night. That's right. And Logan, one of the bad, bad X-Men. Yeah, that's right.

Did, in this movie, does the Crow and his girlfriend meet at some sort of co-ed prison? It seems that way. Is it a cult? What is it? It might be a rehab facility. It might be a rehab facility. It looks a little bit like a prison, but they are all wearing pink, which is not really a prison color.

I don't know. It depends on the prison. Maybe it's a nice prison. Maybe it's musical prison. It might be musical prison. Do you know? Not enough sure. Okay.

So that's fun. Yeah. The Crow, check it out. Is that a weekly planet guarantee? That you can check it out. Yeah. Yeah. You can check it out.

I guarantee that. So if this is deleted for tax reasons. Yep. No, I meant the old one. Oh, you can, yep. You can check it out. Check it out. Yeah.

All right. I've written here, Scream 7 is saved. Okay. We talked about this, but they fired the previous Scream Queen. They did. That's true. And also under, I think, unfair circumstances. We talked about it.

Yeah. It was in that first wave. Yeah, it was. People being fired for having an opinion. That's true. And the previous Scream Queen. Everybody's saying it. Yeah. She was ahead of the game. That's true. And the previous Scream Queen. Now everybody's saying it. Yeah.

She was ahead of the game. That's right. Previous Scream Queen. Yeah. She's back. That's right. They threw $10 million at Neve Campbell. That's right.

Neve Campbell probably. Even though from what I can remember, her story arc is finished. Yeah. Well, I think there's stuff to be done with that. What if there was another guy, for example? What if there's another guy, for example? Because, what if there's another guy, for example? But I, because I think the, like, one of the two original killers is still out there.

That's true. And they've been hinting at that for years. We've talked about it. Matthew Lillard. Yes. Who Matthew Lillard plays. But she didn't come back on the last one because I think it was, it was monetary related.

Sure, yeah. And now they needed her for this. Yeah, absolutely. Like, I don't know what they would have done if they didn't get her back for this because they were in trouble. Sure. So this could end up being an okay Scream movie despite everything, despite bad decisions all around.

But are people going to see it? I think so. Okay then. With her returning. She says, hi all. I'm so excited to announce this news. Sidney Prescott is coming back. It's always been a blast and an honor to get to play Sidney

in the Scream movies. My appreciation for these films and for what they have meant to me have never waned except for the last one. I'm very happy and proud to say that I've been asked in the most respectful way to bring Sydney back and money, presumably, back to the screen. I couldn't be more thrilled. Imagine you do a franchise in the 90s and then they need you.

They have to come crawling back to you. It's like getting the call when you're Mark Hamill for The Force Awakens. Oh, my God, I'm actually getting that call. Goddamn. Billions of dollars hinge on this. If we don't get you, oh, billions you say. Hmm, all right.

Interesting. Okay. So how do you feel? I guess I won't do this The Guy for Reboot instead. I'll do Star Wars if the money's right. That's right. How do you feel? I guess I won't do the guy for reboot instead. I'll do Star Wars if the money's right. That's right. How do you feel? Do you like the Scream franchise?

I like the Scream franchise. Me too. Pretty consistent. And you are right. I guess this is the one. They didn't have General Taker either. That's true. They were in trouble.

Because they were the new Scream queens. That's right. Yeah, I mean, that is the one loose thread still hanging is what happened to Matthew Little's character. I mean, he pretty obviously died in the first one, but. No, he just got a TV pushed onto his face. That's true. And he was supposed to come back for Scream 3,

but they ended up not doing that because it happened around the time of Columbine and they're like, is this too similar to Columbine? No, you panicked for no reason. Yeah, yeah. But now you can use it. Now. You can use it in the year 2024.

It's interesting to see a franchise go for so long that there's been panic actions for multiple. For various disasters. For various things over the years. Horrible world events, yeah. It's good. It's just the culture. It's in the zeitgeist.

It is. It's in the discourse of the zeitgeist. That's why I like movies. So there you go. Now, we just talked about Star Wars just then. I don't know if you recall. We cannot avoid talking about Star Wars. And that's why we're going to be talking about Star Wars just now.

I love this. This is why the Talking Pictures podcast, they say Star Wars is back. But which version? Which cancelled movie or new movie? Patty Jenkins is back, baby. That's right. Patty Jenkins. She's going to get into another plane and be like, I love planes.

I'm really doing it this time. And you know what's like planes? Star Wars. Just in general? Yep. Yeah, cool. Anyway, she was interviewed and she said, basically because Wonder Woman 3 isn't happening.

Sorry, this is what I said. Because Wonder Woman 3 isn't happening, Patty Jenkins is free to do this. She said, when that went away, Wonder Woman 3, Lucasfilm and I were like, oh, we've got to finish this deal. We finished the deal as the strike was happening. So now I owe a draft of Star Wars and so we'll see what happens there. You know, like, who knows? as the strike was happening. So now I owe a draft of Star Wars and so we'll see what happens there. You know, like who knows?

Even if this does happen, this is a very long way away and also might not happen. Absolutely. I'm sure they're requesting drafts from everybody. But I would love a Rogue Squadron fighter pilot Star Wars movie. That's it. Great. Which is a Star Wars. Maybe just start making Star Wars movies.

Now, as I understand it, I don't know if you – I don't even mind if they don't make them, but stop saying you're going to make them. Just do it or don't. Yeah, maybe – Just say we're taking a pause. You know what they should do is they should say nothing for a bit and then just be like, hey, we made a movie behind your backs. Yep.

We betrayed you all and we made a movie behind your backs without telling you every detail about it. Yes. And guess what? You might be surprised by some small things. Don't you think it would have made more sense that after the last one that came out in 2019 which was now five years ago and we're at least two years away from the next one which might be the mandalorian versus grogu yeah they should have said we're taking a minimum five six year break and then just shut up. Yeah.

And that would have been, there would have been this anticipation and you'd hear the rumours about who was getting and not getting a Star Wars movie. Maybe it's Patty Jenkins. Oh, she got fired I think maybe. Exactly. But you don't know. But then you're like, you're missing it and you're getting the chance

to like to build up the idea. But it's never left. They're constantly announcing things. That's true. And so it's just frustrating and it's just like I don't care at this point. I'm actually very chill and zen and I've always been that way. Yeah? So, yeah, it doesn't worry me at all.

It doesn't even affect you? Not at all. Must be nice. It is nice. It's really nice. Now, one thing I was going to say is do we have the news about Marvel output? Is that it? Yeah, I got that here.

Okay, right. We're going to title this section. You know how I like labelling everything? Yeah, we love it. And then forgetting, I got that here. Okay, right. This is, we're going to title this section. You know how I like labeling everything. Yeah, we love it. And then forgetting what I did. Yeah. This is called MC Rumors. Okay.

So it's Marvel Cinematic Rumors. We could workshop that, I think. MC Rumors. Yep. How's that? Yep. What about if it's- That sounds a little bit like MC Urine, though.

That's okay. Which is not a rapper that I care for, honestly. You don't like it? I didn't like his mixtape, no. You're talking about R. Kelly? Yep. What about if it's- That sounds a little bit like MC Urine though. That's okay. Which is not a rapper that I care for, honestly. You don't like it? I didn't like his mixtape, no. You're talking about R. Kelly? I don't like him at all. I don't like him either. Scooty's in jail.

I think so too. What about if it's MC Rumors, but you put the R, a little R above the U, and then you spell out Rumors with the rest of it? That's worse, I think. No, it's better. But then you have to change the formatting every time. Yeah, I know. Oh, yuck. I know, it's bad. Yeah, I know. But that's, I think. No, it's better. But then you have to change the formatting every time. Yeah, I know. Oh, yuck.

I know, it's bad. Yeah, I know. But that's why it's good because it's ironic. No, I don't like it. It's bad. I hate it. Okay, what about if it's a musical? You don't have to do it.

I've got some things to say about the MC. Yeah, no, that would work too. Great. Okay. It could be a musical, yeah. Perfect. The MC-usical. Perfect.

Okay, it's not the MC-usical. I know that says McCusical. But that's like Seussical, the McCusical. Yeah, that's his mccusical but that's like seussical the mccusical now these kind of um these start relatively realistic and then they descend into madness i love that depending on who's saying them daniel richman who's a he's pretty reliable scooper is he too legit to quit he's pretty legit okay i mean nobody's 100 but his strike rate's pretty good uh marvel apparently aiming for quantity over quality. We knew that.

Quality over quantity? Yes, that one. Okay. Because they're a little bit different ultimately. Yeah, maybe. Depends. Depends. Bob Iger came out and he said.

Came out of his big bog. And he said, no, we're doing quantity over quality now. We're just going to overwhelm the public. They already did that. We're doing it more. You have no idea the degree to which we can overwhelm them. Movie going public. Do you know how much money we have?

Yeah. We don't even have to see them. We're just going to keep making them. That's right. We're going to force all these movies. Why don't the Oscars? We're going to force them out. You won't be able to see them.

We're just going to fly up every screen. Fly up every screen in the world. Yep. We've killed Quentin Tarantino. That's right. That's what we're doing. Yeah. So apparently they only want guaranteed hits as opposed to before.

Yeah. So that means no Ant-Man 4, no Eternals 2. Wow. So they're banking on like we're going for broke. We're doing big hardcore properties. But here's the thing. If they didn't know those were not going to work. Exactly.

Also, but Eternals made like $400 million. It still did pretty good yeah it did better than some more recent things yeah so yeah you are right the idea behind you know and and this is fascinating this is a fascinating look into executive brain yeah the idea of like well we'll just make hits well if you could just make hits all of the previous movies would have been hits yeah wouldn't they yeah wouldn't they and some were yeah so i think what they basically mean is they're doing established yeah but again like captain marvel was a hit yeah made a billion dollars so that's

why they wanted to but they left it too late and you know and and and a lot of things were surprising it's like the guardians of the galaxy movies if if they were like we're only gonna if if at the dawn of phase one of the marvel Universe they just went, we will only do guaranteed hits, there's a bunch of stuff they wouldn't have tried probably. Thor they probably wouldn't have tried, but that made big money for the most part I think. For what it was, yeah. And they also didn't put $200 million into it, the first one,

because they shouldn't have. But apparently Shang-Chi 2 is happening, and it's called Shang-Chi and the Wreckage of Time and will apparently feature both time travel and Iron Fist, presumably one of the earlier Iron Fists. Or a future one. Yeah, I guess so. I don't think they're doing that, are they?

They could. Okay. They're going to go back to ancient China in the future? Yep. Is that the idea? That's right. So that would also mean that they can not cast Finn Jones again. Yep.

They can put in another Ryan Fisterman. Yeah. There's just been a – somebody wrote on one of the Hollywood whiteboards in Permanent Market years ago, no Finn Jones ever again. It's just been – everybody's had to work around it. You can't rub it. It's impermanent. Yeah.

That's one of the reasons that their output has been so hit and miss over the last couple of years because people had to work around this permanent market. It's distracting. Yeah. So how do you feel about that as a concept? Yeah, I like it. I like it too.

I think they should have Finn Jones. I think he was a lot better in the stuff that nobody saw. So the second season of Cage, the Defenders series. If it's time travel, it would make sense not to use him though. Yes, that's true. You know, I don't disagree. He kind of got – and they brought him in last minute, and I know there were rumours that he didn't want to practice

the fighting and whatever, but we don't know that. It's true at all. It's true. He also looks like he wasn't given the time or opportunity to do any of that, but I don't know. But, again, I think when you look at the second season of Luke – So Iron Fist is not that bad either. Yeah. I would say. when you look at the second season of Luke Cage. So Iron Fist is not that bad either. Yeah.

I would say. Look, I think the second season of Luke Cage where he and Luke Cage finally team up, I thought that was super fun. Okay. Well, I haven't seen that, but I'm sure it was. Okay. Well, good luck finding it. Maybe it's on Disney+, maybe it's not.

Now we're descending into greater rumour territory. Here we go. It's my time to shine. Hello. Apparently Ryan Gosling has accepted a role in the MCU. People are immediately like Nova, Doctor Doom, et cetera. Sure. How do you feel about that, if it's true and is it true?

It's also a thing you could just say. I mean, is he accepting a role in the MCU immediately post-Oscar win? Has he even had time? What's he doing right now? I'd imagine he's probably been talking to them for years. Yeah, absolutely. So, and you know, his star power has never been greater. That's true. And that's what's happening here, if this is

true. And at the Oscars, he performed a musical number. Yeah, he did. Do you think that's relevant? To what? Stuff. I mean, it's relevant. It was relevant in the moment. Sure was. Didn't feel out of place, did it? Yeah, that's true. It was about a similar... I don't think... It was a song of a movie he was in. I don. Didn't feel out of place, did it? Yeah, that's true. It was about a similar. I don't think. It was a song of a movie he was in.

I don't think singing is out of place at any moment. I disagree. Okay. I was going to say singing at a funeral, but people do sing at funerals. That's right, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

You are dead, dead, dead, you know? Yeah, sure. Yeah. It's a funeral song. That's a song you're going to sing at my funeral. Yeah, yeah. And this one, this last one's from Giant Freakin' Robot. Okay.

Which, as we know. Bastions of Truth and Justice. Yeah. Apparently Henry Cavill will play a multiverse variant of Logan in Deadpool 3. He will wear a long brown coat when he shows up. Wow. Now, also, this could be true.

Could be true. But also, these guys, they're one of the websites we talk about them in our bonus behind the paywall commentary. I mean, what's it called, Mason? Podcast. It's a podcast called We Got This Covered. We talk about clickbait. We make fun of people who bring up these unsubstantiated rumours

as if they're facts. They say everything. They cast everybody as everything as a rumour. And so then when it eventually does hit one in ten times, they will write because they say everything. Yeah, yeah. Then this could be true. They often link back.

They go, as we said in our previous article, Henry Cavill's going to put a brown coat on. Henry Cavill spotted in public wearing a pair of brown trousers and as we previously said, he was going to be wearing some brown apparel. So in a way we were very correct. That's right, yeah. I mean I can see this. He sort of, you know, he has the same –

Texture? He has the same texture as a young Hugh Jackman. Sure. So perhaps that is the case, you know? Well, how would you feel about him if he took over as a regular Wolverine? Too big? He is too big. I think he's broad enough, but he needs to be about a foot shorter.

Yeah, I think it's got the chest hair. I think the time is now for a short squat Wolverine. I think people are ready for that. Short and squat. Yeah. I get it. Like a teapot. I get it.

But who? Tom Hardy. But he can't. He's Venom or Karsh. That's right. Yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah.

I don't know. We'll see. I mean, but you know what would be great is we've talked about this how – in fact, we talked about this episode how if you were a star of something in the 90s and they have to bring you back. Yeah. Just if you're a Hollywood celebrity with some cred and people like to see you, you're a fan favorite,

just start making rumors that you're in things. That's right. As a free paycheck. Oh, my God. They said Henry Cavill's got a cameo in this. Then you just wait for the phone to ring. That's right. Oh, yeah, I'll do it for a quarter of a million dollars

to show up for five minutes and say, bub, I'm British Wolverine in this. Man, I wonder what the budget for this is genuinely bringing in all these different people because apparently everybody's in it. We'll have to see, won't we? Sir Logan of Wolverhamshire. Oh, very good, sir. Should we move it?

That's his catchphrase. Very good, bub. Very good. I mean, I guess before we move forward, you must have thoughts concerning if Ryan Gooseling. Oh, yes. We talked about Henry Cavill, I think, last week, who he might play. Yes.

Who would the goose play? You mentioned Nova. Yes. How do the goose play? Now you mentioned Nova. Yep. How do you feel about an X-Man? Cyclops. Cyclops is obvious. What about Morph? And he can morph into Ryan Gosling.

I just look like Ryan Gosling. That's perfect. That's great actually. Nova is an interesting choice because that would mean it's going back into space for something. They need that though because they've kind of, now the Guardians is. But then people will be like, well,

when are the Guardians going to show up? And they've all. They will, because they said they'll return. Yeah, but what version? Like, not the, it's, you know, we have yet to know and like the new guys, i.e. Will Poulter and a couple of the others. I like Will Poulter.

I also like Will Poulter. He was great in that episode of The Bear. He was good in that episode of The Bear. He was good in that episode of The Bear. He learned to be a chefman. Yeah, I know. I know. Yeah. No, but I know.

Okay, great. Yeah. Yeah, I don't, I, does that, is this, is this, is this Ryan Gosling appearance, is this going to be solo movie? I assume so. Or maybe, or show up in a thing and then. Yeah, okay. And then later, you know.

Yeah, yeah. And then you give him a movie. Iron Fist? What about Ghost Rider? Iron Fist I like, actually. Yeah. Yeah. What about Ghost Rider?

Also, I kind of think. Apparently, the Fall Guy's very good. I've heard that too, yeah. Yeah. I kind of feel like, for me, Iron Fist was like a shot in the dark there, but I kind of feel like they probably want to go with, if they're doing Iron Fist of the past, they probably want to do Asian Iron Fist.

Yeah, sure. Okay. I don't want that. I don't want that. Is it a long, unbroken line of white Iron Fists? Yes, Mason. Is that what's happening there? They always bring in a ringer from the West.

God, you're such a stickler for the rules. No, I agree with that. Yeah, okay. What about this? Here's a list. It's from Screen Rant. Okay, Wonder Man is taken, right? Yeah, that's –

For now. He was in Aquaman. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was good. He was good. And he's new Doctor Manhattan. Okay, a variant of Kang. This is number 10.

Yeah, okay, sure. Yeah, variant of Kang. I'm going to say no, don't do that. Don't do that. I can – see, the thing about – the next one is probably going to be Doctor Doom because I suspect with the next phase of the MCU, they're going to be like Doctor Doom shows up and he releases a virus that kills all the Kangs.

And he's like, all the Kangs are dead, and if any Kangs come into this universe, they get the virus. And I've got a laser. Yeah, I've got a laser too as well. Yeah, yeah. Because I think Doctor Doom needs to be the same age as Mr. Fantastic. Completely agree. Or, you know, rough. Yeah, they're roughly the same age. needs to be the same age as Mr. Fantastic. I completely agree. Or, you know, rough.

Yeah, they're roughly the same age. They're roughly the same age. I guess you could go, okay, Gosling's Doom is such a genius that he was in the same college classes as Mr. Fantastic. Yeah. Would you do like the Doom where he's very pretty and he's just got the little scar? Initially.

Yeah. And then we burn off Ryan Reynolds' face for real. Ryan Reynolds' face? Yeah, Ryan Reynolds' face. Okay. And then we rip it off. Is that one of the conditions? You don't want to harm Gosling.

No. That's one of the conditions of his contract, right? Yes, that's right, yeah. Well, it's great for his character of Deadpool as well. I agree, yeah. This is perfect. They've got at number nine, Khazar, the protector of the Savage Lands.

Okay. And we've seen Savage Lands in Multiverse of Madness. Oh, yeah. But also Savage Lands, it's normally just somewhere on earth or whatever it's like vague jungle and also that requires you to be insanely tarzan ripped yeah does ryan gosling want to do that for one movie minimum yeah perhaps multiple movies maybe he really wants to burn off ryan reynolds's face it's worth it it's true yeah

don't you think maybe he wants i mean did he have really ripped abs in the Barbie movie? Was that effect? Yeah, I think so. Okay, right. No, I think he really did, yeah. Okay, right. Are you doubting it? Yeah, maybe.

But he's like 40, 42 or whatever, so that's hard. That's what I'm saying, yeah. I don't know. I don't know what he's up to. Yeah, I don't know. Gosling has always struck me as a guy who wants to try every sort of movie role once. Whether it be a big comedic role or, you know, a thing. And I've always said, well, he probably would want to do

a superhero movie, but does he want to do, does he want to commit to the franchise? Yeah. And I feel now certain big stars who haven't done a Marvel movie yet have all the leverage. Absolutely. Because they're like, you know, okay, I was just in a billion dollar movie. Yeah.

What can you do for me? And they're not going to be like, well, you'll have to commit to six pictures. No. No, I won't. Number eight, we've got the Silver Surfer. Yeah, okay. Ripped. Yep, okay.

I think they were talking about a female Silver Surfer. Okay. Silver Surferette. Yeah, that's right. Which is what you call a female surfer. Silver Smurfette, I believe. That's right. That's right.

Number seven, they've got Quasar. Oh, yeah, that could work. The greatest weapons have already been seen in the MCU. Oh, because they're the bands. They're the quantum That's right. Number seven, they've got Quasar. Oh, yeah, that could work. The greatest weapons have already been seen in the MCU. Oh, because they're the bands. They're the quantum bands that Ms. Marvel wears. Yeah, but you can change that. That's not a problem. You just say it's an amulet or whatever or a ring.

Say it's a whatever. Yeah, you say it's a green lantern ring. Oh, what about this? Norman Osborn, you're wearing a suit. You don't have to get that, right? That's true, yeah. He'd be a good Norman Osborn. Or Harry Osborn.

Do the hair. Too young. Norman Osborn. Yeah. You're giving the terrible hair. Okay, do you think if Ryan Gosling is in this, and there's no guarantee that this is true on any level, does he want to do, is he going to do Marvel's snark and...

Yeah. Or is he going to be sincere? Probably the snark. Okay. Probably wants to do the fun. Then I don't think he's Silver Surfer. Okay, fair enough. Unless we get a snarky Silver Surfer.

Oh, my God. Or Galactus just ate he's Silver Surfer. Okay, fair enough. Unless we get a snarky Silver Surfer. Oh my god. Well, Galactus just ate that planet. Didn't eat that, did you? Maybe you'd exercise some strength, Galactus. What are you saying? You know what I'm saying. Yes. Wow. Number five, Mr. Fantastic.

Come on. Come on, article from last year. Come on, article. You don't want to update Fantastic. Come on. Come on, article from last year. Come on, article. You don't want to update yourself? Come on. Number four, Nova, which makes sense. He's a cosmic space guy. Number three, Cyclops. Again, don't hate.

Don't hate, Mason. Don't love it, though. You don't love it. I don't love it. It seems obvious. I don't know. It would be a great Cyclops. Number two is Doctor Doom, as mentioned.

And at number one, we've got, this is interesting, Ghost Rider. Okay, yeah, but I mean. Stunts, action, fiery head. He just did the fall guy. Exactly. Similar, you're saying. I'm saying too similar. Too similar.

Man, I'd hate to be too similar. That sucks. Yeah. Something different. So I don't know. We'll see, won't we? We will. Or we won't at all.

Yeah, maybe this isn't true. Yeah. Anyway, let us know in the comments how many Ryan Gosling are there. For every six months he doesn't sign on to a Marvel project, his price goes up, I reckon. And there's a tipping point of that, though. Oh, yeah. He'll make one bad movie or say the wrong thing.

Oh, he'll make – okay, I was going to say there is a tipping point of the amount of money they'll give him. Like if that were $50 million for one movie. No, they would be. They absolutely would be, yeah. Yeah. They're trying to be economical to a degree. I cannot imagine anything Ryan Gosling would do that would like drop

his valuation in Marvel's eyes. What about if he got older? Oh, yuck. Ugh. Ugh. Wrinkles? Crow's feet? Yeah, wrinkles and crow's feet.

How are they going to fix that? You can't. You can't do it. You can't. I mean you can kind of fudge it a bit in movies, but in real life. Yeah, that's right. You look like shit. Yeah.

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should we move it along yes we can talk about legacy sequels because of course we're getting ghostbusters frozen york uh this week frozen treats it's called yeah are you excited for ghostbusters i am shut up i am for real hey shut up ah come on mate this is the one where they finally have an original story or it's just a remake of Ghostbusters 2. We don't know yet. What do you think? Could be both. Could be both. That's true.

No, I think it's a fresh new original. It's supposed to be a harken back, and we talked about this because we did this caravan of garbage last week, to the real Ghostbusters. Oh, okay. It's like an episodic new adventure moving forward, new threat and demon, et cetera. And they've got red jumpsuits.

That's true. I think what they're doing there is they're attempting a rebrand of like yeah this is new this is the this is the clean break this is the attempt to have a fresh new look and we're doing red jumpsuits yes now i want and then after that we're not going to have any old ghostbusters anymore we're going to try this with just paul rudd and the the guy with the hair the guy with the hair yeah it's the guy little hair man podcast no no yeah well him yes also. Yeah, well, him, yes, also. Vin Wolfhard? Yes.

Yeah. Well, the other thing is because we were talking about, because we recently did a commentary on the one from 2021, which you can find at bigsandwich.co, and we were like, is Celeste O'Connor in it who plays one of the girl Ghostbusters? And we thought, no, but yes, she is. No, she is. And also, is Podcast in it who sort of plays one of the Ghostbusters? Yes, Podcast is in it also.

All the greats. They've made the trip to New York. I love that. City, baby. They're probably on a school trip. They're probably on a school trip or whatever. So anyway, what I've got here, it's a list of 100 legacy sequels from IMDb. All right.

Now, some of these we won't need to talk about because they don't exist. Sure. So we're going to try and do 100 to 1. Are we? Yes. Okay. Try. Okay. We might need to have a break 100 to 1. Are we? Yes. Okay. Try. Okay.

We might need to have a break and lie down. Definitely. How do you feel about that? I mean, we normally have to have a break and lie down. That's true. After the news because the news is so hot and fresh. Okay. I'll say this about it.

Yes. The first six don't exist. Okay. Great. Now, I think what we – Oh, yeah. How are we assessing these? I think we need to assess them.

I agree. I think it can be a yes or no. What do you mean, yes or no? Yes. No. But the assessment is does the strength of the new one – Add? Does the strength of the new one overtake the obvious, like,

fan service pandering. Right, okay. So like example might be Top Gun Maverick. Yeah. So obviously you throw in the references of the old things. Yes. Is it just a display of that? Yeah.

And they want people in, you know, they're drawing people in and you get in there and it's just stuff you remember. Yeah. Or have they elevated it on some level, yes or no? Elevation. Yes. That's what we're talking about. I we are like the u2 song beautiful day beautiful day you're having a beautiful day if i've seen a good movie it's true yeah yeah okay so number 100 so maverick top gun maverick just no that'll be in the list i know but let's as an example okay i think it does elevate the source material of original top gun i think we talked about this recently on a big Sandwich podcast,

but that also benefited. No, it was on a video that's coming out. Also, that benefits from not having a million Top Guns in between. Oh, that's true, yeah. It's just like there's just that break and they both stand on their own. Which is interesting because we've often talked about in the past how some of these legacy-type things fail because there is nothing in between. There's no video games. There's no video games.

There's no comic books. I think the star power of Tom Cruise and that carried this. His insanity reached a boiling point at the time of that movie's release. So does it elevate that? I think the answer there is yes. I think it's better. Yeah, also can you watch this? Here's the two questions.

Does the material elevate above the pandering? Yes or no? And two, can you watch it without having seen the previous one? Does it still make any sense? Which I don't necessarily think is vital. No, but I think it's- Yeah, I think that is an interesting thing. Number 100, we've got Las Vegas, where a group of pals-

Two, where a group of pals in their 60s returned to New York after an unforgettable trip to Las Vegas. Last Vegas goes to New York. It's got like, who is it? It's like Michael Douglas and maybe Robert De Niro, but probably not. You know, like a group of those guys, and they go to New York. Not New York. Well, they're doing this one. They go to Vegas, and they're like, we'll show these young guns what we're doing.

Now, that's a real movie. Yeah. Morgan Freeman, I think, is in it. Yeah. No, it's not out yet. Number nine, we've got Dodgeball 2. Again, not a real movie at this point. We've been talking about it for years.

Number 98, we've got Gremlins 3. Again, not a real movie at this point. At number 97, we've got Bad Teacher, which is a sequel to the 2011 comedy Bad Teacher. With Cameron Diaz? Yes. Again, not a real movie. Bad Teacher 2. At 96, we've got Oz Teacher, which is a sequel to the 2011 comedy Bad Teacher. With Cameron Diaz? Yes. Again, not a real movie. Bad Teacher 2. In 96, we've got Oz the Great and Powerful 2, which is a sequel to the Sam Raimi Oz the Great and Powerful, which also stars James Franco.

So this is never, ever, ever happening. Okay, but is Oz the Great and Powerful, is that a legacy sequel to The Wizard of Oz? I don't think so. Is it? Yes. It's a prequel also. Oh. A legacy prequel. Are's a prequel also. Oh. A legacy prequel.

Are we including legacy prequels? They are. Okay, good. This is their list. I see, yes. I just wanted 100 movies. I just wanted to talk about 100 movies. So Oz the Great and Powerful 2 would just be The Wizard of Oz?

Yes. Okay. Well, in that case, it's an incredible movie. And when it goes from black and white to color, amazing. I didn't like it. Judy Garland was on meth that time. I didn't like it. It was too scary. Meth and cigarettes? It was stupid. It didn't make any sense. It goes from black and white to color, amazing. I didn't like it. Judy Garland was on meth that time. I didn't like it. It was too scary.

Meth and cigarettes? It was stupid. It didn't make any sense. It was all magical and stupid. Yeah, yeah. It was a stupid, scary joke. Well, you could have gone home at any time. Yeah.

But she should have figured that earlier and just gone home. Yeah. Also, maybe tell her that. Yeah. Maybe tell her she could have woken up in that corner. Hey, do you want to go on a magical journey and meet the Wizard of Oz? Just so you know beforehand, you can just click your heels together and you'll go home. You won't learn anything, but you don't have to do all this shit.

Don't need to. Click, click. I'm going to go milk some cows. If you do want to do this though, you get to melt a woman. Oh, is it gross? Oh, yeah. She's screaming. Okay, I'll stick around for a while, but if I don't get to melt this woman within like

two hours, I'm clicking my heels together and going home. You can melt her and send me a photo. 95, Untitled Bruce Almighty sequel. We got one with Evan Almighty where they're talking about bringing back Jim Carrey. Okay,

finally, we got one that's a real movie. Number 94, we got Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice. It's not out yet, but it's Beetlejuice.

This is great so far, isn't it? Isn't it though? Yeah. It's the best topic we've ever had, quite frankly. Michael Keaton came out

and said he saw it and he loved it, so that's good. He's in it. The new one, yeah. Tim Burton's directing it as well. Okay, so he's seen it, the finished product. He doesn't need any makeup because he's 100 years old.

Got him. Got Michael Keaton. Got him. God, it feels good. Again, more movies that haven't happened. 93, Yogi Bear 2. 92, The Fighter 2, which is the Mark Wahlberg one. Number 91, Sky High 2. Didn't happen.

Here we go. Bambi 2 at number 90. This came out in 2006. The story of Bambi growing up in the care of his father. Bambi's a boy? Yeah. The Great Prince of the Forest. Lame.

Does it elevate the material, though? It's got a Great Prince of the Forest. It's got 6.2 on IMDb. And it doesn't. No and no. Okay, we've got one I've seen. Jay and Silent Bob reboot. Yes. No, I've skipped forward.

89 is, sorry, Clerks 3. But that's a little tease for you. Yeah, the next one is Jay and Silent Bob reboot. So Clerks 3. Yes. I don't know if you've seen that, but I like Clerks 3. Look, spoiler alert for Clerks 3, and I haven't seen it, but I have heard people talk about it.

Yeah. At the end, they both die, right? No. Dante and Rand, one of them dies. Dante dies. The guy with the goatee dies. Dante. They both have heart attacks.

Yeah, that's right. They both have Kevin Smith-style heart attacks, which happened to him in real life. Uh-huh. The first guy survives, so he decides to make the movie Clerks. In tribute to his friend. In tribute. No, just because he always wanted to make a movie,

so they're making it together. And then at the end Dante actually has a heart attack and dies. And as he's dying. He goes to heaven and he sees the events of Clerks 1 and 2. Correct. They're playing it in heaven. Yeah. Heaven is.

Well, it's that and his friend brought it to him on a laptop and then he dies. No, because he's dying in the bed. But he thinks he's in a movie theatre or whatever. Oh, and Rosario Dawson is dead. She died in a car accident between movies and killed herself and her unborn child. Not intentionally, I assume.

Yeah, okay. So, yeah, that's what happened after Clerks 2. But I like the idea that in Heaven it's just somebody handing you a laptop and it's got a Kevin Smith movie on it. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, yeah. So, anyway, I think Clerks 3 is successful, and I think there is some heartfelt and fun moments in it. But if you don't know. Oh, it's nonsense. Oh, then goodness. Yeah, yeah. So anyway, I think Clerks 3 is successful, and I think there is some heartfelt and fun moments in it.

But if you don't know. Oh, it's nonsense. Oh, then yes and no. So fail. I should have mentioned, if you don't get two yeses, it's a fail. Okay, fair enough. Yeah. Next up, Jane Silent Bob reboot from 2019.

I've seen it and I hate it. I didn't mind it. But you have to have seen every single one of those movies. So is that still a yes? Does it elevate the original material? No. Okay. I didn't like the second one. I movies. So is that still a yes? Does it elevate the original material? No. Okay. I didn't like the second one.

I liked this one though. Second one? No, I didn't like the Jane Silent Bob movie. Okay. I thought it was very referential to a series of movies that had just kind of started. Yeah. And I was like, remember last year?

It's like, yeah, I remember Dogma. Yeah. Next up is- Oh, so that's no or no. That's a no or no. Big time fail. Yeah. I liked it though.

87 is Surf's Up 2, Wave Mania. I'm not going to even go there. Jeepers Creepers Reborn. Another rule, if we haven't seen it or we don't want to talk about it, it's no and no. It's an immediate fail. So this is a terrible list. 86 and 85 are Jeepers Creepers Reborn and Jeepers Creepers 3.

Okay. Famously, the original director of Jeepers Creepers 3. Okay. Famously the original director of Jeepers Creepers is awful for various reasons. Then we've got Above the Law 2. It's in pre-production. It's a sequel to the 1988 action film. Then we've got Need for Speed 2. Well, that's going to have too much Steven Seagal lore in it.

Nobody's going to understand that. True. Unless you've seen it, but everybody has seen Above the Law. That's right. He's a Native American man probably who's trying to stop a pipeline or something using his Native American skills. Wow. Because that's what Steven Seagal's all about.

I agree. I thought he was Japanese. He's both. I thought he was pretending to be Japanese. He's Japanese and Native American and he's Russian. And he's pure, he's 100% American also. But what is he really? He's like from Ohio or something.

Yeah, something like that. I don't know. Yeah, something like that. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then we've got Need for Speed 2, a follow-up to the hit 2014 film Need for Speed. Sure. Then we've got Chronicle 2, another movie that doesn't exist. Then we've got The Last Witch Hunter 2, another movie that doesn't exist.

And finally we've got Night at the Museum, Kimura Rises Again, which is an animated sequel to Night at the Museum. It's the fourth movie. That's real. That's real. Don't know what that is. It's May? They made it?

Yeah, it came out in 2022. Huh. Don't know anything about it. Okay. It's got two directors, though, and it doesn't seem to have. I feel like, James. Yeah. I feel like there needs to be some distance between the May movie

and the legacy. I agree. That's just like three movies, three years after the previous movie. I don't think that should count at all. Here's one if they do make. What's the minimum amount of time? Ten years. Ten years, yeah.

That's another prerequisite. This one doesn't exist at number 79. There's Austin Powers 4. That will be a legacy sequel if they ever make it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We talked about that just recently. We did. That was bonus, I believe.

Then we've got Double Cross at number 78, which is an Alex Cross sequel. I don't know to which series of films it was a Tyler Perry one, do you remember? Alex Cross. Tyler Perry did one like 10 years ago. Is not Alex Cross about a teen spy or something? No, Alex Cross is the Along Came a Spider

guy. I don't know what that is. Kiss the Girls. I don't mind if I do. They morgan freeman movies oh initially and they did two and then they rebooted it with um paula perry who's alex cross it's uh you're a lawyer no he's like a i don't like this yeah you don't have to like it good because i don't movies did you just google movies no i did google give me some movies yeah he did kiss the girls, Along Came a Spider, and then they rebooted it.

Yeah. He's just like a detective guy or whatever. Okay. A detective and a psychologist. And he's always like, you've got to catch this serial killer, but he's just like you, but he's whatever. And he's like, I'll do it. Okay, great.

I'll do it. Great. They're never going to make that. I Am Legend 2 in the works apparently. Riddick Furia, here we go. That's an animated Riddick sequel. Okay. We're going to move aside because at 75 I've got Riddick,

which is a sequel to. Pitch Black. Which I think is eight years prior, like 2005 maybe. Okay. Maybe a bit earlier. Okay. So I'm going to say no. And Riddick is just the first Riddick movie again.

It kind of is, isn't it? Yeah, it's just the same thing. He's on a planet and whatever. And if we're talking impenetrable lore, like nobody's seeing this except Riddick heads, or as I call them, Ridd-heads. Riddick heads. Wow.

Wow. I wasn't going to go there. I'm happy to do it. I just call them cool guys. I'm going to say this, though, like really. Let's be real. Nobody's invested in the Riddick universe. Not even Vin Diesel?

No, not at this point. Like, it didn't take off. I think there's some good movies in there somewhat, and there's that game or games that is quite good. I think there's some good concepts in there. I agree. Who can't? Like, did Vin Diesel have some sort of influence on

the story? Are those any of his weird Dungeons and Dragons ideas? Yeah, it is. It's like his concept and whatever. Like, I think that's what he wants to actually be making. Yeah, I feel like he wants, like ultimately he wants to make XXX style movies. But XXX wasn't a hit but the Fast and the Furious movies were, so he just

incorporated. But he dipped out of XXX so quickly though. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying that he saw more potential but the Fast and the Furious movies were, so he just incorporated. But he dipped out of XXX so quickly, though. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying that he saw more potential in the Fast and the Furious to do that sort of stuff, which is why it diverted into, hey, we're going to go on a mission. The agency sent us on a mission. We've got to drive cars fast. They did after, didn't they? They did.

They really did. Faster than anybody. Did you see at number 74 Chicken Run, Dawn of the Nugget, the new one? No, we did not. Did you see Wallace and Gromit, which is coming out this year? Did you see Hancock 2? Did you see Safe House 2? Did you see at number 74 Chicken Run, Dawn of the Nugget, the new one? No, I did not. Did you see Wallace and Gromit, which is coming out this year? Did you see Hancock 2? Did you see Safehouse 2? Did you see Wanted 2?

Did you see Constantine 2? Did you see National Treasure 3, a movie they're never going to make? I did see all of those, actually. Did you see National Treasure, Edge of History, which is a TV series? I'm from a parallel universe where the MCU didn't exist, but we got all those sequels. This list is crazy. It's just that your universe is just all sequels

to average action movies. Oh, my God. Yes, please. Well, speaking of Sherlock Holmes 3 at number 66, this one's coming out. Number 65, it's Passion of the Christ Resurrection Chapter 1. That will be a legacy sequel. Is it really called that?

Apparently. No. It is. No. And that's the one. We it really called that? Apparently. No. It is. No. And that's the one, we talked about this in bonus content, which is coming out. That's the one where Jesus goes to hell. He harrows hell.

And brings everybody out. Yeah. That's coming out next year. There's no way they're calling it the Passion of the Christ Resurrection part 1. What do you think that says, Mason? I hate it. You don't like the first one.

No, I don't. You're right. Because you're anti-Jesus. That's right. I think you should put some shoes on. Whatever. Maybe barefoot is legal, but you're going to get a nail in your foot or something.

I mean, he did get a nail in his foot, didn't he? He did. Yeah. That wasn't barefoot related. No, he would have put it through if he had shoes on or not. You can't make a bible epic and call it the passion of the christ colon resurrection dash why not i don't know also wouldn't you call it book one you would call it book one new testament or whatever yeah yeah that's

right anyway extra new testament yeah very new testament okay number 64 to 61 are Avatar sequels but the only one exists is Avatar the Way of Water at 61 which actually came out and is a legacy sequel it's over 10 years but is it a legacy sequel I think so just because it took so long no here's the thing though here's an additional rule for legacy sequels that I've made up james i don't think then there has to be no intent for there to be a sequel yeah big but i think cameron always meant you know the the instant the instant avatar one was a hit he's like of course we're making sequels yeah it's just been a matter of time and and getting the tech right yeah and him you know doing other projects and going in his little submarine and what have you you know yeah visiting the Titanic and going, yep, still there.

Yeah. Like you would have thought that after Top Gun there would have been plans for a sequel. There absolutely would have been. But it just sort of disappeared and then it came back and I think that's what you need. Okay. How about this?

Now it's a video game. It doesn't count. It's Robocop Returns. Which one's Robocop Returns? It's a video game. It's a new video game. We talk about it. I've been playing it. It's Robocop Returns. Which one's Robocop Returns? It's a video game. It's a new video game. We talk about it. I've been playing it.

It's a first-person shooter. Robocop Rogue City is what it's called. Oh, yeah. Robocop Returns is a movie that hasn't come out yet. Correct. God damn, I'm stupid. I'm a stupid idiot. I know.

This list sucks. And I'm an idiot. Yep. Next up, we've got Beverly Hills Cop, Axel Foley. It's a bloody match made in heaven. It is. This list and you being an idiot. That's covered out this year.

Here we go. Coming to America. Wait, wait, wait. Okay. I think we can prejudge this even though it hasn't come out yet because the trailer came out. Did it? I think so.

I don't think it did it. Yeah. It's got Judge Reinhold in it. I knew that. I thought I just saw images of it. Yeah, maybe I only saw images of it. Let me check. Judge Reinhold in it? I knew that. I thought I just saw images of it. Yeah, maybe I only saw images of it. Let me check.

See, is that going to elevate the source material? Oh, my God. Who knows? It elevated anything in my life. I don't think you – see, I think it gets a yes that you don't need – you're not going to need to know. Oh, there is a trailer. It came out three months ago. We definitely saw it.

No, no, you're right. No, I don't think this is going to elevate the sequel. Okay, but I don't think you probably need to know anything going in. No. But also I don't think they were ever going to make a sequel to Beverly Hills Cop 3, so it counts as a legacy sequel. Even though there was a cancelled pilot also. In a way, this is the perfect example of a legacy sequel.

Yep, you're right. Because it's going to be bad. Okay. What about this? Yes. Speaking of Eddie Murphy legacy sequels that are bad. Norbert 3? No, Mason.

Norbert 4. They didn't even make two. Wow. Coming to America in 2021. Okay. I got to the last 10 minutes and I just went, no. I got that far in. Were you entertained?

No. It's bad. Were you sitting on your couch watching it or were you doing other things? I was watching it. I mean, I was probably doing something else at the time. Right, okay. But it was just dreadful. The biggest curse, the biggest problem with it is that it's just not funny.

Is it a lot of Eddie Murphy's doing different characters? Yeah, there's a bit of that, but it's not. Like he does the barbershop thing and whatever. Okay, sure, sure. Sounds like it's trading on nostalgia, not on new stuff. Yeah, and it's bad. So no and no. And it's bad.

But it was a legacy sequel, so thumbs up. Thumbs up. Two thumbs up. That counts for something. Yeah. It technically was a legacy sequel. That's right. Would you consider finding Dory a legacy sequel?

No. Why not? Because it's just a sequel. Yes. And it came out almost immediately after the first one. Oh, it didn't? A couple of years. It came out in 2016.

The first one came out in 2003. Did it? Yeah. But also the movie takes, both movies, they're probably like maybe a year apart because fish don't live that long. That's true. Damn fish be dead. Yeah.

But I agree. It's not a legacy sequel. Unless they replace Dory with another Dory and the kids didn't notice. Yeah. So, no, I agree. And I think the same applies for the Incredibles two, which is the next one. Is that because there is so much money behind Pixar?

Yeah. I don't know, man. Like the, was, is this, is finding Dory Incredibles two, is this in the sort of Pixar desperation era?

Yes. Okay. Oh no, I wouldn't say so. When did they hit that? Because I feel they have. Not due to any... I don't even really think due to anything

on their part. Just because it's Disney Plus has sort of sunk their battleship. They've sunk their battleship in terms of theatre returns. Parents just say, we won't go out to the movies

because it'll all just be on Disney+, et cetera. And so Pixar really have no choice in terms of like, should we come? They've probably got people with a million different ideas for really interesting Pixar stuff. But they're not allowed to do it anymore. Yeah. Oh, that cockroach is back and it's dead.

How do you know it's the same one? Because it's the only one that lives in here. Interesting. Lived. That's right. I didn you know it's the same one? Because it's the only one that lives in here. Interesting. Lived. That's right. I didn't kill it. It died by itself. Huh.

What a weak cockroach. Don't these fucking things live forever? But they can't survive in the podcast room. That's the thing. Is this a suicide? Nothing's natural. Okay, good. Back off.

That's right. Wait, no. It's a murder. Little James? Yes. Yeah's right. Wait, no, it's a murder. Little James? Yes. Yeah, cool. Anyway, sorry. So just a bad era where they were just revisiting stuff is what you're saying?

I think so, yeah. Yeah. I mean, they're going back into that as well because they're doing Toy Story 5. I know it's not Pixar, but Frozen 3, Moana 2 and all of these. They're going back to that stuff. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. So I don't know.

Well, the next one is Toy Story 4, which I don't think is a legacy sequel because it came out nine years after the last one. But I think Toy Story 3 is a legacy sequel because it came out in 2010. Real time has passed within the movie universe. Okay, sure, yeah. And I think Toy Story 2 was like 99, so it's like 11 years. I think Toy Story 3 builds on the original Toy Story movies, is a legacy sequel and is good.

What are the other criteria? Those are the three. Yeah. Those are the three. So one thumb up. One thumb up. But that's it. That's as good as you can do though.

What do you think of that? It's good. Yeah. I liked it. And, you know, it does give a conclusion to the series and the toys go off with another kid and et cetera and whatever. Have you seen Dumb and Dumber 2 from 2014? I have not.

I'm not talking about when Harry metal-o-ied the prequel. The sequel. The sequel. Is Jim Carrey in that? Surely not. Is he? And Jeff Daniels. Really?

Yes. Wow. Apparently it's not great. Okay, that's a legacy sequel. Yeah, apparently it's bad. Great. I haven't seen the original, which a lot of people keep saying I should see, but I feel like at this point.

A lot of people? Everyone's telling me all the time, but I'm not interested. You say, you know, you're cornered at a party and they're like, what do you do? And they keep hammering at you and you go, I do a podcast where I talk about movies and TV shows and comic books. What's your favorite comedy movie of Jim Carrey that he was in, in 1994 or whatever?

I guess it's The Mask if I had to. Well, you should see Dumb and Dumber. I won't. You should. Hey, everybody, this guy hasn't seen Dumb and Dumber. I don't want to see it. Let's all surround him. I know all the jokes.

Like I've seen the clips. I get it. Sure. Anyway, the next two are Slapshot sequels. Okay. There was Slapshot 3, the Junior League from 2008, and then Slapshot 2 from 2002, which stars Billy Baldwin. So I don't think they've got Paul Newman.

Speaking of, The Colour of Money. That's a legacy sequel. That's the earliest one so far. This list is getting hot. It's getting hot and strong. Are there any American Pie sequels on here? Oh, my God. Like American Pie, The Naked Mile or whatever.

Yeah. American Pie, The Good Fun Time. American Pie, All These Guys Go to Jail. That's right. Which they should. And for good reason, yes. It's a long time coming. That's right.

And it's C-U-M. Yeah. They shouldn't have filmed anything. And all the other things they did. All the other things they did. I don't know if I've seen The Color of Money. I've seen the original from like the 50s. What's it called?

Jackie Gleason plays pool. Yeah. It's a fun adventure. What the fuck is it called? Paul Newman, pool hustling man. It's The Hust Jackie Gleason plays pool. Yeah. It's a fun adventure. What the fuck is it called? Paul Newman, pool hustling man. It's the hustler. It is the hustler. But I haven't seen this one.

It's good. Yeah. It's a Scorsese movie. It's got Tom Cruise. Mr. Tom Cruise. I got to watch The Color of Money, man. Yeah. Absolutely.

He's young and he's free and he's got a girlfriend and he's all, look at me. I can do anything. Look at me. That's right. Hey, everyone. Look at me i can do anything look at me hey everyone look at me you know tom cruise tells a story where he did a scene with paul newman and he did the costume fitting six months earlier and then he didn't realize it was going to be in the dead of winter so paul newman was like it was all rugged up and he got his coat and he was like you didn't think

about this did you on paul newman i know what i'm. And there's no way to buy a coat now. That's right. So there you go. The Color of Money. Okay. I haven't seen it, so I can't say. Well, I can tell you. Counts as a legacy sequel. That's one thumb up.

Builds on the original? I think so. Yep. And you don't need to have watched The Hustler. No. So that's three thumbs up, which is the maximum amount of thumbs. Oh, do you have to watch the previous Toy Stories to Toy Story 3? I feel like you do.

Or at least the first one. Yeah. So. Thumbs down. Two thumbs down for Toy Story 3. Yeah, in the bin. In the bin like it's some old toys. Oh, here's a legacy sequel. Train Spotting 2.

That's a legacy sequel right there. T2 Train Spotting. Because the odds of anybody in that movie Still being in the movie making industry I feel Such a group of oddbods Like that's a long shot that any of them were still Alive Well alive yeah And still like

I mean Ewan McGregor of course that makes sense But I mean like Everyone else is there Everyone else I mean they're all good at it Yeah I know Ewan Bremner, Johnny Lee Miller, Robert Carlyle Danny Boyle returns as director

Okay legacy sequel yes Yes Builds on the original yes I think so Yeah, I know. Ewan Bremner, Johnny Lee Miller, Robert Carlyle, Danny Boyle returns as director. Okay, legacy sequel, yes. Yes. Builds on the original, yes. I think so. I think so. Yeah. Do you have to have seen original Trainspotting? Yes, I reckon.

Oh, that's two thumbs down. I think, is that really a bad thing that you have to have seen a previously well-regarded movie, though? Not to, I mean. You're saying in terms of it standing on its own right yeah is that what you mean that's really what i mean yeah okay fair enough because i don't know i feel like because otherwise again if it's been literally decades since the previous one you're expecting you're expecting a big hit out of this even though it's about a bunch of guys you're expecting everybody

to rent it on vh? Maybe. Cassette? Cassette. Then we've got Scream movies. None of them count as legacy sequels. Oh, no, hang on. Scream 2022 counts as a legacy sequel

because it comes 11 years after Scream 4. Scream 4 is also a legacy sequel because it's 10 years after Scream 3. That's right. Scream 4 is not great.

Actually, it's all right. I think Scream 2022 is good and a good legacy sequel but you also have to have seen at least the first scream i think for these that's i think that's horror movies though right like you when you've got like a recurring villain and characters you kind of have to have yeah i know it's not the same villain but it's yeah same person but you know what i mean yeah yeah i don't know what do same villain but it's yeah same person but you know what i mean yeah yeah i don't know what do you reckon and it's that that you know massive web of connections

and who went to school with who and who went to school with who was related to the previous killer who's related that's how the ads went who's related who's related this time somebody always is so that one time was just was just a guy which I think was four or three might have been five yeah yeah what no

so just no I like him just no just no just no we like him I can't remember your complicated criteria doesn't matter

I changed every one just to upset you and myself I think then it's at 45 triple X4 which doesn't exist, but then it's XXX3.

Legacy sequel. Yeah, and you don't need to count the second one. It's just a bad movie. I think it's better than the first one. I haven't seen it. Okay. Which might speak to the quality of this movie because I understood it going in.

It's better than the first one, but it does include a bunch of non-American action stars that they don't utilise particularly well, I think. Oh, that's right. Donnie Yen's in it. Donnie Yen is in it, yeah, and Tony Jaa. Oh, my God. That's great.

Yeah. But a bad movie. Yeah. And you thought he was dead, but he's not. Yeah. Well, I was going to say, like big thumbs down, not for the presence of Ice Cube, but because you need to have seen XXX too.

This one's got Ice Cube in it. Yeah. Because otherwise he's Revelation because he shows up unannounced in the third act with a grenade launcher. And I think he says, I'm Ice Cube. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's also confusing. That's confusing.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Because there's no foreshadowing of it. No. There's no moment where he's like, I'm going to. There was a previous XXX. Yeah, that's right. Yeah.

Goddamn. I think it says like XXX 2005 comes up on the screen so you know what era he's from. You know what to think. Yeah. So you know what to think. Maybe that's what all legacy sequels need is a series of text boxes that tell you what to think.

That's what we could bring back from old cinema. He could be like, I'm back and I've got a grenade launcher and that black box comes up with the kind of filigree gold around it and it says, this is Ice Cube from XXX 2005. I think the modern equivalent of that is probably the Deadpool movies where it's like, shit, it's Colossus from whatever or it's X-Men 3 At 43 we've got Bill and Ted Face the Music

That's a legacy sequel I like it You do need to have seen the previous ones because otherwise, I mean, if they just made that, what a nonsense movie. I think it provides enough information in there for you to get what is happening. Yeah. But I think if you hadn't seen the previous ones, there would be no emotional connection at all.

Absolutely. Because they just seem like two middle-aged losers. I mean, Keanu Reeves, though. Yeah. And the other guy. That's right. I like him. Alex Winter. Alex Winter, he's good. Yeah. I, Keanu Reeves, though. Yeah. And the other guy. That's right. I like him. Alex Winter.

Alex Winter, he's good. Yeah. I like it. Legacy sequel, yes. Yep. I think you have to have seen or have a fondness for the previous one. Okay, here's the thing here. Does it elevate the material?

I don't know if it does. Here's the thing, because the first two aren't really about anything. No. And the second one, the third one is about like the power of music to. The other ones are sort of about that. Yeah, sort of about that. But this one, they really lean into that. And this one really, it was also like it came out in like pandemic lockdown era

and it was all about how like we all feel alone, but then we all play music together and et cetera. Close the rift and whatever. Close the rift and whatever. Close the rift and whatever. Yeah, man. Good movie. Was it? I don't know.

I don't mind it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm going to say two thumbs up. I agree. This one is a legacy sequel. It should not exist and it's very good for no reason. It's Dr. Sleep. I think it elevates the previous movie.

Yes. I know there's also The Shining got remade also by Stephen King, but I'm talking about the Jack Nicholson one. It's technically a sequel to that because you revisit all the hallways and whatever. And it's an adult Danny and he's got his mind Doctor Sleep powers and whatever. And he's a bad dude.

He's just been doing drugs and whatever and having a bad time, trying to keep his ghosts away. And there's also, and i always talk about this there's a moment where he lures all the other kind of mind people who are using mind powers to eat people's souls into the forest and you think it's going to be for a mind battle but he just starts shotgunning him that's right yeah yeah yeah yeah exactly and it's got it's got rebecca ferguson yeah it does yeah i bet she's got some stories maybe ewan mcregor screamed at her. It was Ewan McGregor.

Oh, my God, because he beat first Bill to the cast. Yeah, I don't think it was Ewan McGregor. He seems pretty low-key and chill. I think it was him. Let's start that rumor. So, yes. Did you see recently there was a clip of him from not Parkinson. What's that other British show?

Graham Norton. Graham Norton. Graham Norton. And he's talking about how the time he had to deliver Luke Skywalker to Aunt Beru and Aunt Rowan. Oh, yeah, I've seen that. And it's just, people haven't seen it. He's handing nothing to nobody. Yeah, he's got the big scene where he has to hand over Luke Skywalker,

and it's the iconic, it's such an iconic character. It's going to be twin sons. Twin sons and all that sort of stuff. And his friends were in town, so he brought all his friends to the set to show them this big scene. And so he's just on a – the whole room's green because it's like full green screen. I think also George Lucas had filmed the Tunisia stuff

like when he filmed Attack of the Clones. Right, right. So that was... Yeah. And so he's just on a rocking... And he had to be on a pretend rocking horse or something and then he just delivers nothing to nobody in a green room and all his friends were like, no, this isn't it.

You've wasted our time and yours. Mary Poppins Returns That's a legacy sequel That is very much a legacy sequel I think it builds upon the original And the other thing And it's a shameless cash grab I also think you don't need to have seen

Original Mary Poppins Huh Yeah It's Emily Blunt Yes Who else is in it? Is James Corden in it? No, thank God

Lin-Manuel Miranda is in it Huh And Ben Whishaw Emily Mortimer Okay Dick Van Dyke's in it. Huh. And Ben Whishaw, Emily Mortimer, I believe. Dick Van Dyke's in it. Is he?

Oh, yeah. But he's not playing the guy. He's playing a sea monster. It's set like 10 years after. He's playing a sea monster. He's playing a sea monster. It's set 10 years after or 20 years after the last one. Okay. So he's playing his own son.

No, Dick Van Dyke plays a bank manager in it, but he also played that bank manager in the original. He was like a really old man. So that character returns. Whoa. Mary Poppins returns. Dick Van Dyke's bank manager in the original. He was like a really old man. So that character returns. Mary Poppins returns. Dick Van Dyke's bank manager returns. Oh my god. Next up we have Fantasia 2000.

Not a legacy sequel. It doesn't count. It's just a re-edit. There is some additional stuff. Yeah, but it's not a new movie, is it? Nah, you're right. That's right. Then we've got The Craft Legacy from 2020. Don't know anything about that. That's right. Then we've got The Craft Legacy from 2020. Don't know anything about that. Oh, three thumbs down. Then we've got Blade Runner 2099,

a series that's not out yet. Then we've got Blade Runner Black Lotus, which is an animated something. Then we've got Blade Runner 2049, which is a legacy sequel, but also, there's also Soldier. Okay, no, that doesn't count. Legacy sequel, yes.

Yep. Elevates the material. Yes. I think so. Does it make any sense if you haven't seen it? Yes. Okay, yeah. I think it makes sense and also, yeah, I absolutely think it does.

I think it also encourages you not to have seen the first one. And final criteria for whether this gets a thumbs up or thumbs down, was it a huge financial hit in the style of all other Denis Villeneuve films. No. Thumbs down. Every conceivable thumb down. Big thumbs down. Sorry, everyone.

Then we've got the Halloween recent trilogy. Okay. And they're doing it again, right? Yeah. It's going to be a new series? No, it's going to be a prequel series set after the first movie that wipes out all the other continuity or something. Great.

I love that. And then it's just all Halloween movies. I don't know where to put any of that in the bin. There we go. Next up, this is a legacy sequel. We're not going to talk about Halloween, but this time there's a podcast. The first one was all right. I think it was, yeah.

And then they don't get better. Yeah. They get worse. Then it was two movies of filler, I think. Yeah. But yeah, I think the first one works on its own. The first reboot. That got David Gordon Green the new Exorcist legacy sequel,

which apparently was dreadful. I heard it was dreadful. I heard it was dreadful from you just now. Yeah, nice. Yeah. I said it, but I didn't know anything. I was waiting to see what you said. So whatever.

Sure. Yep. Perfect. Thumbs up. Thumbs up. I think thumbs up for that one. Because you don't need to know anything about original Halloween, really. I guess.

Yeah. I think you do. Well, you don't need to know anything besides the first Halloween. Yeah. Well, that counts then, doesn't it? It's not meeting your criteria. It sure does. Yeah.

Two legacy sequels, Dial of Destiny, Indiana Jones, and Crystal Skull, Indiana Jones. Right. Okay. The first one came out like 19 years after the last one. The 2023 one came out 15 years after the previous one. Yeah. I don't think these elevate anything.

What do you think? I like the conclusion of kind of both of them for different sort of reasons, I guess. But they don't beat the original conclusion, which is where Indiana Jones realises he doesn't need... He doesn't like his dad. He mostly likes his dad. I don't like him, he sucks.

Okay, but he realises that it's not about the adventure and the treasure, it's about the treasure you have in your heart. Yep. Which is hating your dad. So I don't think either of the sequels can beat, you know, Last Crusade. Hating your dad. Hating your dad.

Okay, but you don't need to have seen any of the previous Indiana Jones movies. You can watch any of them, really. In any order. You're absolutely right. Yeah, I don't think you need to watch any of the previous ones to watch the legacy sequels. You're saying they don't elevate the material at

all yeah i i prefer the last one because i like that they lean into if a guy's been doing this for this long what does that do to a person sure yeah and he's just like he's a mess so i like that um but that's again not the stuff that anybody else likes that's true people like the bit where he was young at the start. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They did really lean into hating your dad. They did, didn't they? Because Mutt hated his dad, didn't he? Yeah, Mutt just hated his dad.

So much that he killed him, you know? Killed himself, I think, in Vietnam. Yeah. And he was like, I'm going to Vietnam to die to teach you a lesson. That's right. Good movie. Mason? So three thumbs up?

Yep, three thumbs up. Next up, we've got the Jurassic World movies. Only the first one is a legacy sequel in 2015. Then they churned them out. Yep. I don't think you need to have seen any Jurassic Park movies for that. I don't think you need to see any Jurassic Park movies at all. That's fair.

You don't need it. Is there anything to be gleaned out of the newer ones that you don't already know from the previous one? No. What did you learn? I kind of feel like at least the first Jurassic World is about kind of the over-commercialisation of science probably. That's fair.

I mean that was kind of. I don't mind that movie. That's sort of the point of the first one, but they don't even get to put it in. They don't say it explicitly. They don't say it explicitly and they don't put it into practice but with this one i kind of like the idea that no lessons were learned those lessons were learned and people so the public got so oversaturated with dinosaur stuff that they didn't care anymore yeah i thought that was kind of interesting i agree

you know but then where were all of your old friends where were they they weren't even there were they weren't even there for until a couple more sequels you hated that that's exactly right anyway good movie you know jake johnson's got the T-shirt on even though a bunch of people were killed. Yeah. You know. It's fun. Bit of fun. What about this one for a bit of fun?

Independence Day Resurgence. Awful. Now that's a legacy sequel. That's a legacy sequel. That was a real Hail Mary there. God, what do we still have in the tank that we haven't used yet? Do you remember how bad that movie was? It's really bad.

No, the first one I don't think is great in hindsight we've talked about this before yeah but there is a charm to it because it was kind of unusual and it feels i don't know also they're at a base on the moon well see i think it's so the the sequel feels so kind of divorced from reality i thought it's interesting in that seat in the sequel because they've used alien technology to kind of yes change the world. And in theory that makes it kind of interesting. But I think because it doesn't feel. Well, in theory a lot of things, you know.

I know, right? But in practice, I don't know if it ever felt like our world again. So it's like, well, they're back and they've got even bigger ships and a big gravity gun or whatever. They had a gravity gun. Okay, that's great. But this may as well be happening in an alien world. I don't know.

And it does. Don't they want to take it to an alien world for the threequel? Yeah. Can't wait for that one. This one's interesting because we've got at 24 and 23, we've got Terminated Dark Fate and Terminated Genesis. I feel like Terminated Dark Fate, even though there was one four years earlier, is a legacy sequel because it ignores everything

except for two. Yes. And Terminated Genesis, I can't remember which parts of that it ignores everything except for two. Yes. And Terminator Genisys, I can't remember which parts of that it ignores or doesn't, so I'm just going to push that aside. Yeah. I think Terminator Dark Fate has some interesting ideas. I think Genisys ignores everything except one. Oh, yeah, because it goes back to one and wipes out two.

Yeah. That's right. I think. Yeah. Which is, I mean, as a concept, I think that's fun. But I mean, how bold of you to be like, yeah, let's just say 2 doesn't count. Well, it's not that good though, is it? No, it's not very good, is it?

It's no Terminator 3 Rise of the Machines. So Terminator Dark, which is a legacy sequel. Yes, it is. So Dark Fate, that doesn't elevate anything. I don't mind it, but it's mostly a parody. And then there's a bit of the end where the nuclear war happens. Which one are we talking about? Rise of the Machines.

You know, three doesn't count. Yeah, yeah. No, but does Dark Fate elevate anything? I think I like the idea of an ongoing war and it's just morphed into a different thing. I like how if you leave a Terminator alone long enough, it'll befriend a dog and live in a family. Become a curtain manufacturer.

Yeah, I like that. I think it is the best sequel other than sarah connor chronicles but there's too much of this shit i like old sarah connor i don't even mind that they killed john connor because i think at that point also you'd you'd already closed the loop on that universe okay yeah um it's not great no but i think there's some interesting i like I like the splitting Terminator. That's a cool concept. It could be a skeleton and a goobin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't like the fact

that it was a parallel universe, but the hunter-killer robots were basically the same. I don't like that either. I don't like that either. You can watch this without watching previous Terminator movies? No. No, you can't. You're absolutely right. You have to watch some of them. You have to watch and that's the thing. If you've never seen one, and this is why I did so badly,

if you have to see, you're like, well, there's. And if you have been watching them, you're like, I've been watching these. And then you go, oh, there's a new Terminator movie. I haven't seen any of these. Oh, there's five to watch. Which do I watch? Maybe I'll start with three.

That's a more recent one. Oh, no, it was bad. I guess I'll watch four. Oh, that's bad. I guess I'll watch five. Oh, no no this goes back to a movie i didn't watch yeah yeah so no no thumbs down every thumb down even though i like that movie do you think spider-man no way home is a legacy sequel it is for toby mcguire it's true

yes that's it yeah so we'll skip that one creed well we've we've got Creed 2 and then Creed. Creed is a legacy sequel, though it's an interesting wrinkle. Creed comes nine years after Rocky Balboa. So it hasn't got your 10-year gap that you want. But I still feel like Creed is a sequel to Rocky 4. It is a sequel to Rocky 4. So that makes it a legacy sequel. We've got through on a technicality, and I like that. I think good made money builds on the franchise. This makes it a legacy sequel. We've got through on a technicality and I like that. I think good made money builds on the franchise.

This is a good legacy sequel. And a good trilogy. Yeah, and you don't need to I don't think you need to know anything about Rocky. You just have to know it's about a guy whose father was a boxing champ and he didn't take care of his kid and etc. And he was in the jungle researching spiders. Exactly, that's right. And then

what about this 2006 legacy sequel, Rocky Balboa? I think that stands on its own as well. I think so too. You don't need to have seen any previous Rockies. That's true, yeah. Elevates. Made money. I think if you have seen the previous movies,

you're like why does this look like real boxing now? Yeah. Whereas the old ones look like fantasy boxing. Yeah, you're right. Good movie. Good movie. Jason Bour now. Yeah. Whereas the old ones look like fantasy boxing. Yeah. You're right. Good movie. Good movie. Jason Bourne. No.

No. Wow. Was it like five years after the last one maybe? Yeah. If they did one now. Well, by the time they got it out, it would be, yeah. I think they are making one. Which one's – and also they had Jason Bourne, Jeremy Renner.

That's true. Yeah. Bourne – well, it's nearly, it's actually nine years after the previous, so it's nearly a legacy sequel. But also Jason Bourne, Jeremy Renner. Lethal Weapon 5, not happening yet. Why would that be at number 17? A movie that doesn't exist. To create controversy, James.

Good point. Controversy. Okay, so we've got A Good Day to Die Hard, which isn't a legacy sequel because it came out six years after Live Free or Die Hard. Live Free or Die Hard is a legacy sequel because it's over ten years since the previous one. What are we doing?

What are we doing? We should have asked this before we started, honestly. Agreed. It just feels like another Die Hard movie. I don't know. I don't think you need to have seen the other ones. Also, the thing about most of the Die Hard sequels is they're just not great.

No, three is great. All right, well, four is not great. I liked it at the time. I purchased it on DVD at the time. It's got Tim Olphant. It does have Tom Olphant. Tom Holland. Yep.

I didn't know that. So just no? Just no. Tom Holland. Yep. I didn't know that. So just no? Just no. All right. Feels just like a sequel. Sorry. Yeah. Sorry.

Yeah, okay. Sorry. Yeah, I don't think it moves forward John McClane in any significant way. I think three more does because he's like, I'm still divorced and I want to smoke a cigarette. Yeah. And that's cool. And it doesn't even necessarily have that much of a diehard flavor

to a diehard four. Because of the hair. Because of the hair and because it was based on a Wired article or something about hacking. I mean, they're all based on different Wired articles, aren't they? They are, it's true, yeah. Okay, 14 and 13 are Rambo sequels. One is Last Blood from 2019.

Terrible, awful. It is a legacy sequel. It is awful, though. And then Rambo 2008, which is all right. I think it does build on the first one because he's more kind of a burnout. Yep. Where the Rambo sequels prior to that was just like, this guy's actually all right.

He's getting cooler. Yeah, exactly. I think it's similar to Indianaones in the sense that this is like rambo balboa yes the one in burma is the logical end point of that character yeah i don't feel it is he's he's having fun with a family and he yeah ropes steers or whatever he does in that fifth one he was a bunch of guys and he runs into the woods at the end or whatever yeah i think it's it's it's ram rambo is the one yes that's the that's the and he runs into the woods at the end or whatever. Yeah, yeah. I think it's Rambo is the one. That's the

stuff. That's the stuff. That's the stuff and he kills a million people. Yeah, he does. 11 and 12 are Tron Ares at 12 and then Tron Legacy. Tron Ares is obviously not out yet. Tron Legacy, my goodness. Tron Legacy is absolutely a legacy sequel. It's got legacy in the title.

Elevates the material, absolutely. It is way better. Everything is better about this movie than the previous one. Made a lot of money, no. Didn't, didn't. So failed on that. That's pending one thumb down right there. Had to have seen the first movie?

No. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. It almost encourages you not to. Yeah, please don't. That's what the trailer said. It's like bring a vague idea of what you think this is to the theatre and nothing else.

Imagine a guy got sucked into a computer 20 years ago and he came out. What would that guy be like? Yeah. Like this. There he is. There he is. He's over there.

He's waving. It's Jeff Bridges. Can you believe it? He's waving at you. Hey, dude. That's my Jeff Bridges. Nice. I love it. What do over there. He's waving. It's Jeff Bridges. Can you believe it? He's waving at you. Hey, dude. That's my Jeff Bridges. Nice. I love it.

What do you think? It was good. I thought the hey was all right, but the dude wasn't. But also it's got legacy in the title, so that in itself makes a legacy. They should have named all these legacy. Is one of the Bourne movies named The Bourne Legacy? Yes, it is. Not a legacy sequel, though.

It doesn't count. You can't trick us. You couldn't trick us by saying Rambo Last Blood Legacy. That's right is. It's not a legacy sequel, though. It doesn't count. You can't trick us. You couldn't trick us by saying Rambo Last Blood Legacy. That's right. You shan't be fooled. Bad Boys 4 out this year, but then we've got Bad Boys for Life. Which is five. Which is three.

Okay. Two was bad, and I didn't like it. I think they should call Bad Boys 4 Five Bad Boys. Five Bad Boys. They're going to get three additional boys. Okay. How many guys were in that team? Remember they had the team of the new guys?

In three? Yeah. I watched five minutes of it and I couldn't. I turned it off. I don't like it. I don't like it. I think there were at least three more bad boys on that team. So I reckon.

Bad boys. Exactly. You do five bad boys. Five bad boys. As if Bad Boys 3 is called Bad Boys 4 Life. What were you thinking? Here we go. This is a legacy sequel. The Matrix

Resurrections 2021. Yeah. Nearly two decades after the previous. Yeah. God. Look, maybe it does elevate the material and I simply do not understand it. I don't think it does. It is absolute nonsense if you haven't seen the previous

three, I think. I mean, it's nonsense if you haven't seen the previous three i mean it's nonsense if you have yeah um but it is legacy i know people are like it's intentionally bad but like could you have made something intentionally good oh yeah maybe all right oh in the sense that some people say that it is intentionally it's like a commentary it's an inversion of it's an inversion of the previous ones and being people being like oh you just wanted bullet time and you wanted kung fu well guess what we're not giving you that yeah because actually you're just consumers or whatever yeah you suck yeah you suck actually you suck actually um i think if it was a satire it should have been i think they should have gotten like really good comedy writers to write it. And maybe really good martial arts. Yeah.

Instead of just push powers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And also maybe get Hugo Weaving back. Yeah. Maybe get Andy Samberg to write it. Sure. Yeah. They've got Jada Pinkett Smith.

That's as good. As good if not better. Yeah. Number seven is a TV show. It's the Obi-Wan Kenobi TV series. Like in hindsight, completely unnecessary. Yeah. It was something Obi-Wan Kenobi TV series. Like in hindsight, completely unnecessary. It was something

that I wanted to see for years. I think it does build up. Name anything that happens in that show. Half of his mask comes off and he goes, hello, remember me? Oh, wow.

You fucking did this. Have a look. You low dog. I live with this. This sucks. That's right. And then you hit me in the face with a lightsaber.

Yeah. That's rude. That's rude what you've done there. Rude Obi-Wan. That's crook what you've done, actually. I think there's good ideas within it. I disagree. I think it's dull as a rock start to finish.

Even the part where he throws rocks. I don't think it's that bad. I think it's very bad. All right. I think it's good bad. I think it's very bad. All right. I think it's, remember they, I mean, also it borrows a bunch of stuff from Jedi Fallen Order and like the animated stuff like that Darth Vader mask and the voice modulation is from Rebels.

The storming, the Inquisitor base is from Fallen Order. I think it's, there's no music in it from the original trilogy, from the prequel trilogy. Okay. Now, let me ask you this, James. If you had never seen any Star Wars movies and you were just like, it's about a guy and he's fleeing from his past, would it make any sense?

No, no. Okay, well. No, because the guy would have shown up and been like, you did this, and I'd be like, oh, my God. Wow. This guy should go to jail. He should go to jail. He put that man in like an iron lung.

It's rude of him. I don't know the full context, obviously, but you shouldn't be allowed to do that regardless. This guy should go to jail. He should go to jail. He put that man in like an iron lung. It's rude of him. I don't know the full context, obviously, but you shouldn't be allowed to do that regardless. That's right. That's fucked up. He feels illegal. I mean, I guess he technically was on the run, wasn't he? Yeah.

For that thing that he did. That's right, yeah. I mean, other things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you could base it on that. If he did go to court, you could be like, well, your honor. Yeah. If anything, this is a legacy sequel to that thing you do

because it's that thing you did. Anyway, I didn't like it and I thought it was bad. Every conceivable thumb down. I feel like you were more up on it when we watched it and reviewed it. Maybe. Yeah. Well, time has not been kind. I thought it was fine.

Six to four are the sequel trilogy. So I guess we're only really going to talk about The Force Awakens. Okay, sure. That is, look, I know it's a retread and all of that, but I feel like you don't have to have seen the original Star Wars. It made a lot of money. What else? It's more than ten years after.

That's true. Well, it's exactly ten years after Revenge of the Sith, but that's a prequel. It doesn't count anyway. Yeah. Is it? I don't think it elevates the material, though. No.

If anything, I think, and again, we've talked about how it sort of, it had to juggle this impossible thing of being a movie on its own, which it is, but also not just be here's all your mates. I think maybe it does squeak through then. Yeah, I would say, okay. Because, again, you don't – but it squeaks through. I think it sets up some potential. It has potential.

Yeah, and I think it's – I think the problem with it – is it an issue ultimately that the First Order is just the Empire again? Yes. And it's the Death Star again. Yeah. Yeah, I think it is. Yeah. And Han Solo's still a smuggler again.

Like what did he do in between movies? That's right, yeah. Where did Luke Skywalker's lightsaber come from? Don't worry about it. Okay, well then I think it fails as a legacy sequel. Okay then. Sorry everybody. I thought it was going to squeak through.

I think it could if it had a stronger ending. I think it could have brought it together, but it doesn't. Three is Ghostbuster Afterlife or Ghostbuster. I know there was a reboot in 2016. This is a sequel to the game. I think this one is very pandery. But you like it. But I like it.

And I think, again, as pandery but I like it and I think again as a long time fan of the franchise I think I think it brings more to the table than just hey look at all the ghost packs. I think it does until they just start doing the first movie. Ghostbusters again yeah like the last 30 minutes is just original Ghostbusters. Yeah but also

I feel very strongly you could watch this without knowing the previous movies. Yep. You know, it's about a farm and a ghost. Farm and a ghost. And a big, big dog, big wet lizard dog. Big wet dog.

There's two of them. That's right. Clifford the big wet dog. Lizard dog. Yes. At number two, we've got Cobra Kai. I can't wait to see what number one is. What do you think it is?

Rocky. We talked about it before. It's Maverick. Oh, you think it is? Rocky. We talked about it before. It's Maverick. Oh, yeah, it is, dude. Oh, yeah. Crabber Car, you haven't seen it. Let's quickly say I think it works on every level. I think it elevates the material.

It gets sympathy for the villains. It keeps bringing back original villains and original characters. The new characters are interesting. It's silly. It knows what it is. Okay. I think it's – And it's saying something about holding on to old stuff.

Yeah, and kick each other. But isn't that ironic because it's a retread of an old thing and it's saying give up on – don't give up on old stuff. Don't look at it. Or do give up. Just don't look at it. What are you up to? Stop it.

That's what it's about. Touch grass. Yeah. That's its slogan. I think it's – and there's going to be another one this year. I think we should give this three thumbs up then. All right. This is a big one.

And of course, Top Gun Maverick, which we already talked about. Oh, wow. What a disappointing ending to this. Well, I'll say this then. Charlie Clawson, who you know from Toe Fop, he hates this movie. He thinks it doesn't make any sense. Why does Goose's son dress exactly like his dead dad? Why is he playing Great Balls of Fire on the piano?

Because of his dead dad. But like why would any of that? And I'm just like I don't care. Wow. Like why does Maverick fly the same plane and have the same jacket? The movie's good. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

That would bother me if it was bad. It was a bad movie. I think I've only seen it once. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But even when we saw that like the enemy base had some F-14s on it, I'm like, well, you know he's going to get in one of those.

I'm like, this is the most contrived way to put him in his old plane. Yep. I know it's going to happen. I don't mind. And it did. And it did. And he passed the torch. That's right.

To himself. That's right. I think that's the perfect way to end. Well, that's the list. What a list. Some of these were real. And it did. And he passed the torch. That's right. To himself. That's right. I think that's the perfect way to end. Well, that's the list. What a list. Some of these were real. Some were real. Some were real and some were worthwhile.

I'm going to say 33% of them. I think that's very generous. I reckon it's fifth aid. Okay. Yeah. I had to close the link. Okay, we can't. I can't go through it.

We can't. Should we move to the next segment now? Yes. What is that? It's called What We Readin'. Is it? Yep. What else is it called? What We Gonna Read.'t go through it. We can't. Should we move to the next segment now? Yes. What is that? It's called What We Reading. Is it? Yep. What else is it called?

What We Gonna Read. Let's do it now then. I'm doing the thing. What are we reading today? Wow. This is where we talk about it. That's right. What we've been reading.

This is where we talk about it. The real meat, you know. I see you've got Amazon Prime open on your telephone. Well, the second part of the second season of Invincible is just out now. The whole part or just one or two episodes? Let's see. Five episodes it says. What?

Wait. Wait. They released them all at once. I thought they were releasing them weekly. You know what, James? I don't know. I think they're releasing them weekly. Okay.

I don't know. I'll be honest. I don't know. Don't you know anything? No, I don't know. But I haven're releasing them weekly. Okay, I don't know. I'll be honest, I don't know. Don't you know anything? No, I don't know. But I haven't watched it yet, obviously. I like that show. No, I also haven't. Okay, right, great.

Let's see. Let's see. Oh, and also Asteroid City is finally out on Netflix. I'm going to watch Asteroid City. But you said you wanted to pirate it. You said you wanted to steal it. I didn't say I wanted to pirate it. I said I'd rather do anything else than that.

I'm going to catch up. I'm going to do my best this week to catch up on a bunch of Oscar winners and losers. Right. We talked about it briefly last week because the Oscar. Yeah, it's just the one episode. The final, all the Oscar results were coming out last week just as we were recording.

Yes. Like the final part of the episode. So we didn't really, we talked about it in passing. I just want to say also we tried our best. All right. So fucking get off our back. Nobody's on our back. Yeah, but just leave us alone.

Everybody is leaving us alone. Tip, well, then just think about it, you know. Everybody is thinking about it. Everybody's spent time in quiet solitude thinking. It's not easy. It's very easy. It's the easiest part of my week doing this podcast of all the things. And yours, I imagine.

I'm sick of it, Mason. You're not sick of it. It's not that hard. No, it's not hard at all. It's way easier than having a real job. Yeah, and having a family and all sorts of stuff. Yeah, man, it's the easiest. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I was going to say, we talked briefly about the Oscars, but what we didn't talk about, there were some very notable absences that I only noticed after we stopped recording because the list came up on Google or the Vanity Fair website or whatever it was, and you noticed a bunch of winners popped up, but some were so – like Killers of the Flower Moon didn't win anything. And so – A goose egg.

Yeah, because it didn't come up for any category. I didn't notice it at all. That's right. And I'm like, huh. They made Martin Scorsese sit there that entire time, that poor old man. Because it didn't come up for any category, I didn't notice it at all. That's right. And I'm like, huh. They made Martin Scorsese sit there that entire time. He's an old man. He's only got a couple of years left in him.

If he doesn't move his legs and get up, he'll die. You'll get the thing you get on planes. He'll get the thing. Yeah. Thrombozos. Peanuts. Wow. Free peanuts.

Yeah, yeah. And Emma Stone won for Best Actor and Best Actress. Sureress and I think that was a worthy winner but Lily Gladstone didn't win anything and people are saying also like often you'll find with actors like her they'll just disappear after this like Hollywood will be like well you did that one thing and we don't know what else could we put you in

so I think that Emma Stone's performance in Poor Things was very good and I think in somebody else's hands it probably would have been a disaster so I think that Emma Stone's performance in Poor Things was very good and I think in somebody else's hands it probably would have been a disaster. So I think that is part of the reason she won. But I think another part is that often people judging acting often conflate the best acting with the most acting.

Yeah, okay. And she does a lot of acting in that movie, whereas Lily Gladstone's like it's more of a subdued performance, but it's there in the eyes and it's there in the motion and it's there in the yeah everything kind of thing yeah uh but in in uh saying that i watched a movie this week it is on netflix it's called certain women and she's in that because i'm like oh i should after killers of the flower moon i don't remember i'm like i gotta look up all these people in this movie these people look really interesting what's their deal?

And some of them were actors and stuff and some were just like. Just blokes. Some were just blokes. Blokes and sheilas. And so I'm like I should watch some other stuff Lila Gladstone's been in. So I watched a movie called Certain Women. It came out in 2016 and it's sort of these three short stories and she's in the last short story about women. Yeah, certain women.

Just about certain women. Sorry about every woman. Well, you couldn't. No, you couldn't. How many women are there, like 12? Yeah, certain women. Just about certain women. Sorry about every woman. Well, you couldn't. No, you couldn't. How many women are there, like 12? Yeah, there's no time. You'd have to do a few sequels. But she's in it as a ranch hand.

But, like, overall I think it's really good. It's a really good – it's listed as a drama and everything about it suggests it's got a sort of dour demeanour to it. Right. But it's quite funny. Okay. Like there's a – the first story is about Laura Dern

and she's like a personal injury lawyer and her client is Jared Harris. Okay. Who's like a guy who was injured in a factory accident and he got paid out but he can't make any more claims and so he's like – and he sort of feels a little bit unhinged. Yeah, okay. And then he takes a hostage in an office building and it's like it's a funny little vignette kind of thing.

But it's also got Michelle Williams and Lily Gladstone's in the final story. It's like a ranch hand that gets obsessed with someone. With ranch sauce. Yeah, with ranch sauce, exactly. That's right. She's like, this is what I do. So worth checking out? I think it's worth checking out. And ranch sauce. Yeah, with ranch sauce, exactly. That's right. She's like, this is what I do. So worth checking out?

I think it's worth checking out. And if you don't like one, they're short. That's exactly right. Yeah. They're three minutes each. Wow, good. That's perfect. That's exactly right.

That's the kind of Quibi-style content that I want to consume. That's the Quibi content we crave. I can't believe I missed this, Mason, but Madam Web is on streaming. That was quick. They pushed it out there. Okay. So there we go. For free or do you have to pay for it?

You probably have to pay for it. Apparently they're going to lose $250 million on that movie, which they deserve to. I think so too, yeah. Yeah, so that's fun. You're going to make that back with the Spider-Man re-releases, I assume, that they're doing early this year or a bunch of it later in the year. Oh, absolutely, yeah, that'll do it.

How long was that, three weeks maybe? Yeah, three, four, something like that, yeah. Damn. Wow. Anyway, I watched a Netflix movie. You watched Damsel, right? I watched Damsel with Millie Bobby Brown. What did she think of it?

Ah, he's done it again. One day you're going to do that joke and I'm going to kill you. Well. What do you think of that? Well, okay. It's from the director. What's his name? Juan Carlos Frizendio.

Who's that? He did 28 Weeks Later. the sequel to 28 Days Later. So basically it's about, I'm going to do a little bit of a spoiler, but it's about a princess who marries Nick Robinson from Jurassic World. Okay. And she goes to that kingdom because she's like, well, if I marry this dude, then my kingdom will be saved because it's destitute.

I'm going to get a lot of money and my dad's Ray Winston and his mom is Robin Wright. And I'm like, wow, it's a Beowulf reunion, I said to myself. It's got Angela Bassett also. And here's the twist part coming, and it is in the trailer, but I recommend if you are interested in just some light fantasy, skip ahead, there are time codes. But she's actually part of a dragon sacrifice.

So when she gets there, she marries him, becomes part of their royal bloodline, and then they're bound or cursed or whatever, you find out more, to be sacrificed to this dragon, and they throw her into a pit with a dragon. This is a ready or not situation. It's like ready or not. And look, I wasn't expecting much because there were people being like,

and I know people have turned on Millie Bobby Brown, and I don't know why. I thought she was good in this. And I think there is moments contrived and things where I'm like, oh, yeah, I could see how maybe you'd do that better, or this green screen of this giant cave kind of looks like shit. But I like the dragon design. And the dragon is also voiced, so it has its own personality.

By whom? A famous guy? Yeah, it is. No, it's, what's her name? It's not in the Google stupid thing. Rebel Wilson. Yeah, it's Rebel Wilson. She goes, get a, fellas.

I'm a dragon. Oh, I can't pronounce her name, but she's in, what's her name? She's in a bunch of stuff. Shuri and Dashlu. Yeah, she's in like a bunch. She's in Star Trek. Oh, she's in X-Men The Last Stand, but she's also in good things. House of Sand and dashlu yeah she's in like um a bunch she's in star trek or she's in x-men the last stand but she's also in good things house of sand and fog that's right she's in house and sand and fog um anyway i thought it was pretty solid like genuinely i thought it was like there's

some this it's a little bit spooky and creepy but not too much it kind of walks that line i think there's some good action stuff in it. Some of the action is contrived and whatever, but I thought it was really fun, really. It really surprised me how much I enjoyed it. Kind of go into it as like a B-movie kind of fantasy Like a B-movie. But yeah,

again, I don't think people seem to be liking this, but I quite liked it a lot. Great. I would even recommend it. Whoa. You want some light fantasy with a dragon in it? No. You have to fight a dragon?

Okay, yes. And there's twists and turns? I love that. And you've got to fight a dragon? That's crazy. And you see people get melted? Oh. Yeah, that's pretty good.

All right then. Let's move it along. Let's move it along to letters. Letters. There's a letters theme. Did you know that? Yeah, I know. Do you know that?

Yeah, I do. Do you know that it's your responsibility to play the letters theme? I do know that. Are you aware of that? I play it through my, I do. Do you know that it's your responsibility to play the letters theme? I do know that. Are you aware of that? I play it through my phone and I'm ready to do that. And I've always been ready. The classic one was letters. You weren't ready.

Oh, letters. We love you. Some letters. They're only a take my way. We're going to be here right now. We're going to do letters. Bam! If you do want to reach the show, hashtag weeklyplanetpod on Twitter

or weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. Mason, do you have any Gmails? I have some emails. You better believe. I've got some Gmails and emails. Well, while you're doing that, I'll do this. Okay, great. This is from Manda Man.

Hello again. That's me saying that. Manda does some tweets at us. Hashtag weeklyplanetpod, which you have to do. Been making good use of my big sandwich membership and enjoying the robust back catalogue of commentaries. Thank you so much. I've been wondering for some time,

what is your setup like when recording these? Do you sit on a comfy couch or your usual podcasting table? Same table. I got a TV, a smaller TV installed in the room, and we just turn and face the TV and we turn the lights down and we sit in our normal chairs. That's right. And we mute normal chairs. That's right. And we mute the movie.

That's right. No, we do not have a small cinema that we have built. No. We have done them on couches previously. It's also hard to set up a mic on a couch. Sure is, yes. I've found. With the bow set up at least.

Anything to add? No. Yeah. Oh, but here's a related email. Okay. This is from Richard. The Melbourne Cinematic Experience. Oh, my God.

The MCC. That's right, dear. No E. Shut up. I don't know what I'm doing. It's hard. Here's to Mason and James. If this gets read out, I'll likely be hearing it while in Melbourne.

I'm travelling over to visit my partner who's been living there the last few months. Shout out to Elle, just in case she's in the room while I'm listening to this. Hello. And I had originally wanted to ask you two for things to do in your fine city, but some other letter asked that a few weeks ago, and your answer was basically, it's just a nice place to live in, but there's not much to do in a touristy sense. Whoa.

Which is also what Al said. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, man. So instead I'm going to ask for cinema recommendations in Melbourne, fancy ones, weird ones, opulent ones, ones you just like the vibes of. Cinema Nova. I was going to say Cinema Nova, yeah. What's that other one?

I like this. Camberwell. Oh, the Rivoli, yeah, that's a good one. The Rivoli does like more arthouse-y stuff as well. Yeah. It's a beautiful art deco cinema. The Nova is right sort of in the middle of – the Nova's in Carlton and it's sort of like if you want to watch a slightly left-of-centre movie

and also there's a bar. Yeah. It's very nice. Get a fancy cocktail there. There's a place called the Sun Cinema in Yarraville. Okay. Which is very nice. It's sort of a very old-school cinema. It's very quaint. There's a place called the Sun Cinema in Yarraville. Okay. Which is very nice. It's sort of a very old school cinema.

It's very quaint. It's delightful. Similarly, the Thornbury Picture House. Oh, yes. Is like a nice little niche cinema on High Street, Thornbury. That's exactly right. There's another one down on High Street, another one down towards the city.

They do like that organic-y popcorn thing. Oh. I used to live near it. What was it called? I can't remember. Okay. What else? He says, and before you suggest it,

the now legendary notion of gold class is already on my list. Gold class is fine. You don't even need to. Yeah, I would go to one of those cinemas. It's not worth it. Also, all Hoyt cinemas now have recliners, so that you can just go to one of those and you'll get the experience. And decliners.

That's right. You can push them forward. As far as you want. Bend yourself in half, you know. Any others? No, but here's another email. Oh, the Palace Westgarth. That's the one.

Okay, yeah, that's a good one. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. They're all there. Those are the ones that aren't just the big chain ones. Yeah. And they are, you know, they're musty.

Oh, yeah. The Palace Westgarth, some of the cinemas is clearly just a cinema they put a wall in the middle of to make it two smaller cinemas. Like it's very obvious. Yes. That's why I like it. Yeah, yeah. They're musty but they're charming.

Yeah, that's right. They're way more charming than a big cinema plex. Yeah. And they'll probably put – they'll often put – oh, and the Aster. Oh, of course. The Aster's great. The Aster's – What about a rooftop cinema?

Oh, yeah. Which one's that? The Lido will do a – the Lido does a rooftop cinema? Oh, yeah. Which one's that? The Lido will do one. The Lido does a rooftop cinema. Jared Lido. Our friend Zach from Aunty Donna, he does a fun time movie club at the Lido often and he'll put on a fun, silly movie. It might be the Super Mario Brothers or a different movie.

Maybe that'll be on while you're in town. Yeah, check that out. Go there and you meet Zach. It'll be fun. Yep. You don't have to meet Zach. You don't have to meet Zach. He'd rather you didn't.

I think you had another letter. I was going to say the Aster. I do have many. You don't have to meet Zach. You don't have to meet Zach. He'd rather you didn't. I think you had another letter. I was going to say the Aster. I do have many. James, I have so many. But the thing about the Aster is they won't, they don't often play like your big hits. No. They'll play like the current movies,

but they just have a huge list all year of just different, cool, interesting old films. So check out the Aster. Boring old stuff. Boring stuff. God, boring snooze. Yuck. This guy's dead.

Yuck. Why would I watch this? Here's an email from Aiden. Hey, guys. Firstly, thanks so much for the years of entertainment. You guys got me through a lot of hard times, especially COVID, so a big sandwich subscription was an easy purchase. Nice.

Thank you for fostering another parasocial internet relationship of mine. You're very welcome. With the news of rooster teeth shutting down. It means a lot to us. I'm just helping foster it. That's terrific. I love that. Mate, pal of ours, Aidan, our old mate.

That's right. Yeah, yeah. With the news of rooster teeth shutting down after 21 years, a lot of people of my generation are sad because they were such a huge part of our lives growing up across all different mediums, red versus blue, YouTube, RTX, et cetera. My question is what would be. Ruby. Probably. That's an anime sort of vs. Blue, YouTube, RTX, etc. My question is what – Ruby.

Ruby. Probably. That's an anime sort of thing. Never seen it. Neither have I. They did that Transformers thing. And they did Superman vs. Ruby or whatever, didn't they? Oh, I don't know.

Or something. I don't know. My question is what media finale cancellation retirement upset you because they were such a constant in your lives? Not to get existential, but does it get you guys thinking about your time at the Weekly Planet? No. No.

All the best. We don't think about it. Aidan from Toronto. Well, we recently had a very generous offer to buy my YouTube channel. Somebody emailed. We solicited an email. Well, we got an unsolicited email. Somebody emailed in and was like, we'd like to buy your channel.

Yeah. No other details? No details. Not what they're going to do with it? But you went to the website and they, ideally for them, they'd only do it if they had a majority stake. Yeah. They have controlling stake.

And they would like us to stay on board. Stay on. So we'd be- Working for them. Working for them. But what I would love to do, and I would do this, and it would never happen if they were like, if I was like, you give me $10 million and you can have it,

but I'm not doing anything. Right, you can figure it out. I mean, this is what you do. You're brand management and content creation. A lot of subscribers. I'm sure you can work with that. I would genuinely entertain that offer, not because I want to stop doing it,

because I want to see what they would do. What they would do, yeah. And then I'd just move this to a slightly different thing. But you could change the name. Yeah, just change the name. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We could call it the Every Seven Days Planet. Yep, exactly.

But they emailed the weekly planet email, but they asked for the Mr. Sunday Movies channel. Is that right? Yeah, they said, hey, is Mr. Sunday Movies here? Can I speak to Mr. Sunday Movies, please? Anyway, I want to email them and say, give me a number. Yeah, I want to know. Just name and number.

We'll keep you posted, folks. We'll let you know. So do you have any – I think it was not a cancellation so much, but when Cracked.com changed from actual written articles to list articles, to listicles, because that's – it was more of a – they got a lot of – there was a guy called Sean Baby and he did a lot of fun articles and like comics. He would do comics and stuff like that. And it was just a lot of – and they did a lot of fun articles and like comics. He would do comics and stuff like that and it was just a lot of –

and they did a lot of video stuff as well. Like Michael Swaim did a fun video series where it was a news reporter robot. It was really fun. And a lot of that was really good and it was just sort of interesting every week to read a long-form article about something fun and funny and then they were clearly like – and it felt – because Cracked was a magazine. It was like a mad magazine competitor for a long time. And it wasn't the same but it was like, oh, I just like the idea

that they're trying a new thing. But then they switched exclusively to list articles. I haven't been. I'm just going there now because I haven't been. And it was very much that clickbait style of like, here's some crazy stuff about – Look at this formatting. This is awful.

Look at the size of these images. Why is it so big? Oh, look at the engagement as well. This is. Good or bad? No, it's bad. I mean, the YouTube channel. And then they fired everybody.

And they fired everybody. So like Cody Johnson and everybody else, he now does Someone News because he started Someone News on Cracked. That's right. But yeah, they used to be. He started it on Crack? He started it on Cr He started on crack. Wow.

He continues to do crack. Wow. The grossest moments in Seinfeld history that weren't because of George Costanza. There's an article for you. Yeah, see, that's, yeah. And it was a lot of that stuff, like crazy stuff about Back to the Future.

It doesn't make any sense. Here's the list of 10 things. Yeah. It was a real pioneer of that stuff. God, this is a lot of stuff that they put out, though. I'm looking at the dates on this, and they put out like dozens of articles a day it seems um i call it humor when they fired everybody there that sucked and that was also a result of facebook inflated their

numbers so they pivoted to video a lot of facebook video stuff yeah and that kind of hurt um the advertising and everything in the long run so but that's now become Dropout, which is independently owned. I think Sam Reich runs it and they pay people properly and make interesting shows. It's on streaming, et cetera, as well. Homestar Runner, when the content of that sort of dried up. And that wasn't for any particular reason. I mean, they're still doing it.

Yeah, the guy behind it is still doing like occasional stuff on YouTube, which is nice. Yeah. But again, that was huge for a couple, a few years. It nearly got bought by Disney. Yeah, that's right. What else? Anything else?

I really liked Jay Pinkerton's blog, which he stopped doing. Yeah, that's right. And he made, he'd reword Batman, old Batman comics. Jay Pinkerton was also on Cracked for a long time yeah Others probably Something Awful

when it was good yeah sure which was basically Reddit I don't know I feel like by the time I'm often with the exception of maybe College Human

Cracked I'm often already off a thing by the time it's cancelled right okay it's already been bought out multiple times yeah right and gutted.

Web comics, Akewood. I have no idea. Okay, that's a good one. That was a good comic. What about Dr. McNinja? Oh, Dr. McNinja? No, never. But also, do you remember Perry Bible Fellowship? No. Okay, that's a that's, again, I think Akewood and Perry Bible Fellowship

do stuff occasionally, but there was like, they had a long continuous. Okay. People should check those out, I think. I'm actually busy. Yeah, well, you're not that busy. I'm bloody busy. I've got to pick up my son in like 20 minutes. I'm pretty busy.

You're right. I got one here from Cameron who says, I just found out about Australian time zones and all I could imagine was wondering what your opinion is on it. I do not understand. Yeah, so Australia is huge and you only get a sense of that. I mean, you can look at a map, just drive anywhere, and you get out of a major city and it just goes forever

in every direction. So, yeah, the time zones are just all over the shop and some places do daylight saving and some don't and that makes it confusing and whatever. But, yeah, I don't know. I don't think about it. I don't think about it. Do you?

I've never thought about it. So don't worry about it. I don't think about it. Do you? I've never thought about it. So don't worry about it. You don't need to worry about it. Don't stress, okay? You'll be all right. Here's a couple of things I've just remembered. First of all, Ryan D. Murphy has emailed in. Ryan does a bunch of, like, Weekly Planet-style cartoons.

Oh, I love those. If we do a little riff on the podcast, he will make a little cartoon, so people should check him out on Instagram. I should make a little cartoon. But he's emailed in, what was your first comic book? Hey James and Nick, my brother's told me over the years that his first ever comic book was this fantastic poor comic he got at a book fair.

Now that's strangely worded, I think. He says, my brother's told me over the years. He's done it multiple times. He's regaling this story. He doesn't. I think Ryan doesn't believe this. Oh. But recently he found a picture of the cover and I got it from an eBay and it got me wondering if you remember the first comic you guys ever read. Yes.

What was it? Asterix. That was the one I got. Not a real comic. It's a real comic. A comic books, Mason. What's your first comic? What was your first Marvel slash DC comic?

Jesus. It was something random. I don't remember what specifically. What was it? I used to read a lot of like Ren and Stimpy and stuff. Yeah, right. Or get them in a show bag or whatever. Well, see, when I was a kid, the Milk Barn in my house,

which is like a corner store kind of thing, they used to sell random bags of comics, like three comics in a bag. Yeah. There was some warehouse somewhere that would package up. Just put in whatever? Yeah, it was whatever. It was like, it was DC, Marvel. Image wasn't around yet, but like just random publishers, Eclipse Comics, and sometimes it was Australian reprints

of American stuff. Was that frustrating because you're like, I don't know where to get the rest of this? Not really because you didn't really think about it. It was that point in time where you just opened a comic book and maybe it was a new story, maybe it was just like midway through one and you're just like, this is pretty cool. I don't know.

It's exciting. I don't know. But I think I remember the first one I ever got. It was an Australian reprint of a Spider-Man comic, and it was the introduction of the Hobgoblin. So there's the first scene where he's testing out all his equipment and he's got his laser. Do you see who it is?

He's like, I'm this guy. Yeah, that's right. Oh, no, that's right because it was a mystery for ages. It was a mystery, yeah. And it was also a Superman comic, but which was some sort of anniversary issue. I think maybe I've talked about this before it was a really really long anniversary comic and it's a it was just a bunch of stories about the legacy of superman far like into the future

like thousands of years into the future and you didn't really kind of like what happened to the man of tomorrow kind of like that but not that no it was all these tales of people talking, like, about. Tales of people talking. That's right. It was about all these stories. Mystery of what's this. The legacy of Superman and, like, what it meant to him. Like, there was a scene and it's set. And it's also unclear.

It was unclear as to what. I was, like, five when I read this, by the way. It was unclear as to whether they were all set in the same universe or not. Okay. So there was, like, one set in a kind of like an America that was sort of under like a fascist rule and like a homeless guy finds a Superman costume. Okay.

He puts it on and then it turns out it's a real one, so it's indestructible. And so he fights back against like the soldiers of this government. Yeah. And then he's, spoiler alert for this comic book from like 19 whatever it was they shot him in the head and killed him they shot him in the head because the but but he's should have pulled the cape over that's exactly right but his his sacrifice starts a like a revolution and then the story just ends so you just never know what what happened okay

right and then there's ones that are set like – there's one set like thousands of years in the future where everybody lives in space and there's a Superman day and every – like a Thanksgiving and families get together in space and talk about – Does Superman turn up and go, I don't approve of this? Superman does turn up. Oh, my God. He only appears in one story and it's this one.

And a guy – it's set on like a space station, like this family's space station. Yeah. And this family sets – you know's it's set on like a space station like this family's space station yeah and this family sets you know it's this this day of thanksgiving kind of thing and they get a knock at the door and it's a guy in a superman costume and they're like this guy's really committed to this and he sits down and they have dinner and he's like well you and he's clearly like kind of worse for wear like he's been in a big battle or something yeah and then he's like well you know

thanks so much for your hospitality i better go and. And they're like, how did he get here? This man, this regular man. How did he get? Because it was like he's been displaced. It's modern day Superman, but he's been displaced in time. Oh, okay. That's sweet as. Yeah. This whole thing was crazy.

All right. I don't know what the third one was. What was it called? Tales of something that happened one time. There was a guy there. Will you tell us? What did we win? What did we have? What did we win?

What? I don't know. This is crazy, actually. Yeah. I've got one more from Josh. Okay, great. He says, just finished watching All of Us Strangers and it left me broken. My partner gave up an hour in and resorted to having tissues

permanently under each eye, mopping up the tears. Easily saddest movie ever. Hashtag weekly fun. I've got that. I want to watch it. I need a moment. Sure. I know it saddest movie ever. Hashtag weekly pun. I've got that. I want to watch it. I need a moment. Sure. I know it's like a lot.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm really looking forward to watching it. But people won't leave us alone. No. Always. Just settle down. Leave us alone. God.

People are always, you know? And they won't. They just won't. They just have to. We wish they did or didn't, but they do or don't. And we're sick of it, quite frankly. Stop it. Stop it.

Maybe you could do more of that. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Is that the show? That's the whole show. all show thank you so much folks we very much appreciate you sticking around even when we do a silly topic yep and we keep giving everything a lot of silly topic with a dumb article i shouldn't have picked that's right but i like the idea of doing a hundred movies and half of them don't exist that is very good yeah folks we absolutely appreciate it uh thank you for telling your friends about the podcast because that's how we get new listeners and thank you for leaving a friends about the podcast because that's how we get new listeners.

And thank you for leaving a five-star review on your podcast catcher of choice because if you do that, James will leave. And we're proud of you. We are proud of you. James will read it out for you and us. It's from Brian Robert. Gave us five stars. He said, this show may be like comics, not the other way around.

This show may be like comics, not the other way around. Before stumbling onto this podcast, by way of Caravan and Garbage YouTube post, I didn't find comic book lore interesting, but I enjoyed the host's sense of humour, energy and positivity so much that I became addicted. 100 plus hours later. Those are rookie numbers. No, that's great. I like comic book things now.

What did you do to me? P.S. Can I be the official electric trombonist of the pod? From Bryant. I remember what the third comic book was. It was another Spider-Man comic. And it's the one, it's quite early on in the Spider-Man run. It's where he goes to visit the Fantastic Four. And he's like, give me a job.

And they're like, get out of here. And he's like, fair enough. You could have been kinder, though. Yeah. But it was that period where Spider-Man was a real jerk. Yeah. Remember that? Absolutely, yeah.

He was rude. He was rude. Yeah. And this one's from Safry Cry, who says, Red.com movie news shooting up your bleep. James and Mayso and occasionally little James bring you the best in weekly Snake Eyes reviews, month-beer celebrations and Westworld News best podcast ever.

Thank you so much. I like all those references. I don't know what they mean. Terrific. Folks, if you want to get into contact with us, you can go to weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. You can go to the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates Facebook group and the weekly planet podcast subreddit and Discord.

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Yep, 25,000 members. That's right. And they keep the peace over there and they do TikToks and they do weekly Planet Clips channels and they do all sorts of stuff. They keep all that moving. That's a lot of people. That is a lot of people, yeah. Yeah.

I mean, just in general. I know, exactly. Wouldn't want all them in this room. Absolutely not. It wouldn't fit. We'd die. If you want to follow some people on the socials, first follow our friend Rob Collings.

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Yes. Frozen. Empire. I don't. Yeah, all right. I'll do it. Okay. You're not happy about it?

I'm expecting good things. Really. I'm going in wide-eyed. Nice. And fancy free. That's great. Yeah. First time we've ever been fancy free. I'm going in wide-eyed. Nice. And fancy free. That's great. Yeah. First time we've ever been fancy free, I suspect.

It's true. It's true. All right, thanks, everyone. Grab that gem, you guys. See you next week. See you next week. Do the clicks again. See you next week.

Ghostbusters Frozen Empire. I don't have words. Clickety-click. Let's pretend to get in a car, but it's a stage car. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Where you get in and you just kind of like go, and then the lights dim down.

Curtains. Yeah. Because you can't have the car leave. No, that wouldn't make any sense. It has to go dark. Some sort of Flintstones car. The stage hand comes on and pushes the car off. Yeah, it's not a real car.

All right, thanks, everyone. Bye. Bye. The age hand comes on and pushes the car off. Yeah, it's not a real car. All right, thanks, everyone. Bye. Bye.

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