The Weekly Planet - 520 Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire

Episode Date: March 25, 2024

James' greatest enemy, Ghostbusters, has returned in the form of a Frozen Empire. But is it more of the same or something new for the Sony Ghost Corps Ghostbusters IP/content farm? Before that thou...gh we talk the news of the week with some big Disney business drama, the future of AI in film along with the Late Night with The Devil controversy, Teen Titans getting a DCU entry, the potential next James Bond, trailers for Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga Trailer, The Acolyte Star Wars Trailer, House of the Dragon S2 Trailers, Marvel 1943: Rise of Hydra, Beetlejuice Beetlejuice, Alien: Romulus and a whole lot more! Thanks for listeningVisit bigsandwich.co for a bonus weekly show including video game let's plays, exclusive movie commentaries, early stuff and ad-free podcast feeds for $9 per month.Please be aware timecodes may shift due to inserted ads.00:00 The Start02:30 Disney Big Business Drama06:24 Late Night with The Devil AI Controversy10:24 Future of AI in Hollywood Meeting15:21 Teen Titan's Live Action Movie16:41 New James Bond is Aaron Taylor-Johnson?21:10 Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga Trailer23:17 The Acolyte Star Wars Trailer26:39 House of the Dragon S2 Trailers28:45 Marvel 1943: Rise of Hydra Game Trailer31:49 Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Trailer33:16 Alien: Romulus Trailer43:16 Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire Review (spoilers 57:02 to 01:08:16)01:08:16 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read01:14:20 Letters, It's Time For LettersJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownMaso's Instagram ► https://www.instagram.com/nickmaseauThe Weekly Planet Twitter ► https://twitter.com/theweeklyplanetThe Weekly Planet TikTok ►https://www.tiktok.com/@weeklyplanetpodThe Weekly Planet Clips Channel on YouTube ► https://www.youtube.com/@theweeklyplanetclipsPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesTWP iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767TWP Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetTWP YouTube Channel ► https://goo.gl/1ZQFGHAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2QbmwGjT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:57 Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of the week. Oh, my. You choked up. I'm okay, yeah. You choked up because it's us here together. A couple of bros together a couple of bros couple of bros working together I'm working on my emotional uh my ability to express myself interesting I fucking hate you that's good that's good we're finally getting somewhere
Starting point is 00:01:16 and then all the walls come down and you're in a psychiatrist's office and I put my lab coat on and I'm like we've done it it, folks. Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of the Weekly Planet where we talk movies and comics and TV shows. My name is James, also known as Mr. Sunday. And with me as always is my co-host. I don't actually hate him. It's Nick Mason. Dr. Nick Mason.
Starting point is 00:01:33 The walls are going up. That's right. Oh, the walls are back up. You want to live in this fantasy world where we do a podcast. Okay, great. I'm excited for that too. Terrific stuff. Big week, Mason.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Big week. For a thousand trailers that came out. That's right. We are going to, of course, talk about new Ghostbusters, Ghostbusters Frozen Time. That's right. And that's going to be fun, I think. I think so too.
Starting point is 00:01:53 As a movie and to talk about. A discussion. Yeah, two fun things. That's the best part of a movie is discussing it afterwards with your bros on a podcast. Yep, a real podcast. It's not an experiment or like you're monitoring somebody. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Under the guise of a podcast. For their delusions. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know. Yeah. Because this does go out. It does go out, doesn't it, to people? I mean, you're certainly clicking on a thing, aren't you?
Starting point is 00:02:13 Yeah. You're moving a file and you're clicking on a thing and it goes ding and a little pop-up comes up and it says, you've successfully done a podcast and a smiley face comes up. Well done, James. Is this like the end of Shutter Island spoiler alert where you're going to lobotomize me? Like he still thinks he's in a podcast and a smiley face comes up. Well done, James. Is this like the end of Shutter Island? Spoiler alert, where are you going to lobotomize me? Like he still thinks he's in a podcast.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Yeah, absolutely. That's right. All right. Anyway, this time goes below if you're doing a jump to Ghostbusters or whatever. Before we got there and we get there, it's the news of the week. We're going to talk some big businessmen going in on each other. Oh, big CEO news.
Starting point is 00:02:44 That's right. We're going to talk about the. Oh, big CEO news. That's right. We're going to talk about the use of AI in films and where that's happening. We're going to talk about a live-action Teen Titans movie in the works. We're going to talk about the next James Bond potentially. Then we've got trailers for Furiosa, The Acolyte, Marvel 1943, Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice, Alien, Romulus, and Rebel Moon Part 2,
Starting point is 00:03:01 The Scargiver. That's so many trailers. The dog is barking. I'm just going to check on dog. I can't leave this room, right? Yeah. Yeah. You're not on a treadmill.
Starting point is 00:03:11 You're not on a treadmill with some matte paintings next to you. This is all real stuff. How would you tell him it's not real stuff? I'm coming back. I want the world to know. All right, I am back. Let's kick things off with this. Do you know about this?
Starting point is 00:03:27 So there's a currently, there's a Disney boardroom takeover that's in play. I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who's taken over from whom? Well, Ike Perlmutter, who you might know as the guy who tried to ruin Marvel for several years. Yep, sure, sure. Kevin Feige used to have to go through him to make any kind of major decisions and was- He had to do it gridiron style.
Starting point is 00:03:46 He put on his special armoured baseball cap with the grill over the front of his face. And he put on his padded shoulders and he charged through Ike Perlmutter. People might know he's in that ominous picture of him and Trump. He was the one who wanted to replace Jim Rhodes' actor. Who were the two actors again? Don Cheadle. And Terrence Howard. And he said, don't worry about it. People won't notice. wanted to replace Jim Rhodes' actor with the two actors again. Oh. Don Cheadle. And Terrence Howard.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Terrence Howard. And he said, don't worry about it. People won't notice because all black people look the same. And he said, we've talked about him before multiple times. Yeah, he's bad. Anyway, him and Nelson Peltz, who's a billionaire, whose granddaughter is in the Transformers movies. She's in four. Really?
Starting point is 00:04:24 Four. The daughter of Mark Wahlberg. Oh. She was also in Avatar The Last Air. She's in four. Really? Four. The daughter of Mark Wahlberg. Oh. She was also in Avatar The Last Airbender, the movie. Oh. Which is bad. Anyway. Nepo baby then.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Yes. Okay. They're banding to get. Do you know who's a nepo baby? Who? That I didn't realize. Who? Jared Harris.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Who's his parent? Richard Harris. Oh, yeah. It's disappointing. Which is weird because they're the same age seemingly. Fucking Jared Harris. He's good though. Ah, piece of shit. Yeah, no, you're right. Which is weird because they're the same age, seemingly. Fucking Jared Harris. He's good, though. Ah, piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Yeah, no, you're right. That makes a lot of sense. And that's maybe something I knew or didn't know. Yeah. Anyway, so these two goons, ghouls, are banding together. Goons and ghouls. From Capcom. To put pelts on the board of Disney.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Okay. But someone has stepped in. A hero? They want to get rid of Bob Iger. Yeah, sure, sure, sure. Who's currently the head of Disney because he was out for a bit and he retired and now he's back. Because he said something along the lines of,
Starting point is 00:05:11 we want to stop making so much crap. Yeah. And they're like, no, no, no. Excuse me? Excuse me? How's the number going to go up if we don't just churn out crap? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is why THR, because someone has stepped in,
Starting point is 00:05:23 a big player in this industry. Who's this going to be? Is it somebody I don't recognize? No, it's George Lucas. George Lucas. Creator of Star Wars. And he's a big Disney shareholder. Yeah, so he has huge sway.
Starting point is 00:05:35 I was under the impression that when he sold Star Wars to Disney, he was just out of the business forever. No, no, he got $4 billion and then he got a huge stake in Disney. So this is what he said. Creating magic is not for amateurs. Can you do it in the voice? Creative magic is not for amateurs. That's good.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Do I have to do the whole thing like that? No, that'll do it. That's fine. We'll get AI to do it later. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When I saw Lucasfilm just over a decade ago, I was delighted to become a Disney shareholder. I was delighted to become a Disney shareholder. I was delighted to become a Disney shareholder.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Because of my long-time admiration for the iconic brand and Bob Iger's leadership. That's true. Bob Iger did trick him into selling Disney. Nice. By telexellers. When Bob recently returned to the company during a difficult time, I was relieved.
Starting point is 00:06:19 No one knows Disney better. I remain a significant shareholder because I have full faith and confidence in the power of Disney and Bob's track record of driving long-term value. I've voted all of my shares for Disney's 12 directors and urge other shareholders to do the same. So you've got backing of George Lucas. That ain't nothing. He's a creative.
Starting point is 00:06:36 He knows what he's talking about, probably. Sure, sure, sure. So yeah, this is currently in flux, but it doesn't look good for all like Perlmutter and Nelson Peltz. Uh-oh, unless they've got another trick up their sleeve. Yeah. Maybe they've got, maybe they're friends with. A murderer.
Starting point is 00:06:49 I mean, certainly. Donald Trump. Sure. We don't know for sure. He's not a direct murderer. No, no, no. Yeah, I mean, through presidential stuff. Yeah, he's probably murdered.
Starting point is 00:06:57 He's murdered a bunch of people. They always, they have to. They love it. Yeah, they do love it. Until they get there. They really do love it. Yeah. So, yeah, look, I guess if I had to pick a side,
Starting point is 00:07:07 it would be the side that George Lucas likes. Sure, I guess. If we had to pick a billionaire whose side we're on, I guess it's... He's the billionaire we're going to eat last. That's true. That's what we all decided, right? I think so, yeah. We collectively decided. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:07:17 That's all up in the air. There's another thing I love talking about. It's AI. Oh, terrific. You might have seen the news this week that Late Night with the Devil, which is getting incredibly rave reviews. It's AI. You might have seen the news this week that Late Night with the Devil, which is getting incredibly rave reviews, had some AI imagery used in it. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:32 So it's a couple of things. It's an interstitial, like we'll be right back, because it's a horror movie set in the 70s, I think, on a late night talk show with David Daszak-Smalchian in the lead role. And so it's an interstitial and it's also part of the background. Yes. And when you look at it, it's pretty obvious.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Yeah. It's a skeleton. It's a scary skeleton. It's a bit scary. But it's got weird messed up hands and a weird leg that isn't and it doesn't look real. And it's quite bad. And they admitted they used it for a few things, but it's one is, again, the main part of the set.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Yes. I think, as other people have said, I don't think it like undercuts the rest of the, like I don't think it should exclude, I'm not going to not say this because they did this one thing. I mean, you could point to any film and be like, I don't like that element of it. Yeah. And I think the argument as well is the at you know currently because there's a lot of discourse about you know the the argument is well this might be an indie movie and it's smaller and
Starting point is 00:08:35 maybe they didn't have the budget or what have you but at the same time if you let everything you let through without critique or without. Absolutely. Then they'll. Oh yeah, this shouldn't happen. You know, bigger budget movies will do it as well. And I think, you know, there's some people on Twitter, you know, a lot of artists were like, hey, I made my own version of this. I did it in two hours.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Given that they've been critiqued for this, when it goes to streaming or when it goes, you know, to a wide release or something like that, surely you could just get. Yeah. And, you know, horror movies wide release or something like that, surely you could just get. Yeah. And, you know, horror movies because that's what it is, you know, they do have that DIY work ethic, you know, where you could just contact a local artist and go, hey, can, you know, we'll give you a couple of grand.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Absolutely. Can you make it? A couple of grand. Maybe 20 or 30 bucks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even if they made this with AI, just show it to an artist and go, can you make a hand-drawn version of this? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:27 And a lot of people did and then you get, you know, maybe you get some money and you get your name in the credits and what have you and, you know. Exactly. Or this. Or this, yeah. This seems easier though, doesn't it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:36 And now you've drummed up all this PR. That's exactly right. That's great. I kind of, like, I would like to see this movie. Yep. And I'm sure I'll see it eventually. But again, you know, and it's also a case of so many people in Hollywood get their start doing a really small thing,
Starting point is 00:09:52 whether it's in front of the camera or behind the scenes. And they get one credit and they can build on that. Director Joe Johnson designed Boba Fett and was a model maker for the original Star Wars. And he directed The Rocketeer. That's right. And now we're just getting Rocketeer sequels out the wazoo every year, twice a year.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Sick of them. Me too. No, you're not wrong. And it's the same thing with how they're like, well, now we can scan a background extra and put them in a movie and we can replicate them 100 times and put them in every movie and blah, blah, blah. We don't have to pay anybody.
Starting point is 00:10:19 But that's how people get on set and they're discovered and they get a line and then they're in the movies. Exactly. So you can't need a scan of a person. I kind of feel like they should at the very minimum contact somebody on Twitter who made a real version of that and when it comes to streaming or when it gets to the wide release, replace that.
Starting point is 00:10:39 I completely agree. It can't be that hard. No. It seems easy. Yeah. Especially if this movie does well, which it looks to. Yeah. And some people have said, oh, it's unfair because they're a smaller movie
Starting point is 00:10:49 and blah, blah, blah. No. But I think, yeah, it's unfortunate they've been caught in the crossfire here, but they are and they've gotten the heat. Yeah. And I think as a gesture of goodwill they should probably replace. Yeah. I don't disagree.
Starting point is 00:11:02 And it's not like, well, how can we find somebody? People have volunteered their art. I'm sure there's people, and I don't think they should probably replace. Yeah, I don't disagree. And it's not like, well, how can we find somebody? People have volunteered their art. I'm sure there's people, and I don't think they should do it like this, who would just do it for free for exposure, which I don't encourage at all. But to be like this is out of our budget or abilities is just not true. Yeah. Anyway, more AI news.
Starting point is 00:11:20 This is via Bloomberg. Open AI is gearing up for a series of meetings next week with Hollywood Studios. Terrific. Now, which one is OpenAI? Sora. Oh, they do the one, the 30-second videos? Yeah, yeah. So, talent agencies and media executives, so they're going to go to Hollywood Studios, talent agencies
Starting point is 00:11:35 and media executives to pitch filmmakers on the integration of its AI video generation tool, Sora. CEO Sam Altman made the rounds and attended parties during Oscars week to start making inroads. A spokesperson for OpenAI said in a statement to Bloomberg, we look forward to an open dialogue with artists and creatives.
Starting point is 00:11:56 It's been like Japan, snowing, walk down straight. Yeah. Everybody look at camera. Drone shot. God. Uncanny Valley eyes. Fucking. Scary looking eyes. Fucking. God. Uncanny valley eyes. Fucking. Scary looking eyes.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Fucking. Looks bad. Grim. Chilled down your spine as you look at these people because they're not quite right. Yeah. I think the only thing that would stop this is just people going, we hate this. Yeah. And it's unprofitable.
Starting point is 00:12:17 I think that's the only way they would stop doing this. I mean, you could also, I know with actors, they put things in place in contracts and all of that and like, you know, sag after a while. Like you cannot use AI tools in various things things but i don't know it just seems like the dam is going to burst on this well i think it's going to be a case of your big stars will be like your tom cruises and etc will hopefully be like you cannot replace any part of me with ai if you need to if you need reshoots you can't you use an ai version of me you have to bring me in blah blah blah but i wonder also if there might be some people who are like well if you give me an extra million dollars and i don't
Starting point is 00:12:48 have to come in to do reshoots fine and then it's kind of a like was there stuff said about roadhouse some adr ai there were some accusations of that i don't know whether i don't know but there's definitely they they will i think we'll talk about it later but there's some some of the visual some of the fight sequences there's visual effects built in. They're doing some sort of new technique in order to make the punches look. You hit a green bag. You hit a green bag and then you find and replace and you do a couple of takes.
Starting point is 00:13:18 And some of it looks fairly convincing. Some of it is not convincing. But again, it's an emerging technology and I guess you've got a but it's not ai as far as i know yeah i did but you know there's nothing about that i'm talking about there was some other stuff that was oh i don't know then yeah i don't know but all right we'll see also this is already happening because tyler perry in february he cancelled an 80 million dollar studio expansion because of sora's mind-blowing capabilities in relation to their text-to-video software he He said, I no longer would have to travel to locations. If I wanted to be in the snow in Colorado, it's text.
Starting point is 00:13:50 If I wanted to write a scene on the moon, it's text. And this AI can generate it like nothing. Ugh. Great. Yeah. Really good. And it's that thing of like... He's a billionaire.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Yeah, exactly. Doing. Just spend some money and hire some creators. Get a green screen. Get a green screen get a green screen yeah i mean and and it's again i think what is probably going to happen is someone is going probably a smaller creator like your your late night with the devil people somebody is gonna ai generate a scene or ai generate a background or something like that that is going to be demonstrably owned by somebody else like it'll have disney yeah yeah disney
Starting point is 00:14:24 creative elements or and it'll be interesting it'll be owned by somebody else. Like it'll have Disney creative elements and it'll be owned by a really big company. Somebody you can't poke. Exactly. And they will go, okay, well, we're going to sue you. I think we briefly talked about at some point, we may have maybe a bonus podcast about like sampling music in the 80s and what happened was there was no rules for a while.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Yeah. So people went nuts with it and then some people with deep pockets said, we're going to sue you for using a sample you didn't pay for and you didn't ask for. And then the rules, you know, very quickly crystallized of like, you have to ask and you have to pay and you need a contract and blah, blah, blah. And I think it's going to be the same for this.
Starting point is 00:14:57 I think it's going to be a case of somebody will get burned really badly for doing it and then the rule will become. You have to name the sources that the AI is referencing. Yeah, you have to name the sources that the ai you have to name the sources or it's a case of you can only use public domain databases yeah and i'm sure there'll be people out there who'll be like i would love to get a piece of well maybe not but i'm sure there'll be some people out there who'd be like i have a piece of art and i it's public domain and if you want to use it in a AI generation database, you can. Yeah. Something like that. Or for a small fee.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Sure. It might be a – I imagine they'll probably build it into that system where you go generate a scene in the winter with the blah, blah, blah, and you click and it says it's used all these sources. Yeah. And check the boxes and they'll get sent a fee. Yep. And if you want to pay for it, you can pay for it.
Starting point is 00:15:42 And if you don't, you uncheck the box and you get a worse version. You know? I'd love a worse version. Yeah, I think also it's not going away. And I think so it's just going to have to be. And people will use it. But like any tool of filmmaking or, you know. Like a camera. Like a camera.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Or a grip. Or a dolly grip. Or a best boy. Cameras are fake. It's like I'm a fake face and you're looking at things. But it's okay. We figured it out. That's right. Yeah. You'll never replace the best boys. Yeah. Or a best boy. People are like, cameras are fake. It's like I'm a fake face. Yeah, exactly. And you're looking at things, but it's okay. We figured it out. That's right.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Yeah. You'll never replace the best boys. No. Whatever they do. Whatever they're up to. God bless them, all of them. Anyway, this is the next video. I think they hold lights.
Starting point is 00:16:14 That's the best thing you could do. I agree. THR, here we've got some actual movie news. Great. Apparently a live action Teen Titans movie is in the works. Ooh. Anna Noguera is to write. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:16:27 She's already working on Supergirl, Woman of Tomorrow, a supergirl movie. Now the team, the original team, not the original, these are some of the people that have been in the Teen Titans. Robin, Kid Flash, Aqualad, Wonder Girl, Beast Boy, Best Boy, Cyborg. Cyborg's normally a Teen Titan guy or has been a Teen Titan guy. Raven and Starfire. And the villain Deathstroke began in a Teen Titan guy or has been a Teen Titan guy. Raven and Starfire and the villain Deathstroke began
Starting point is 00:16:47 in the Teen Titans until he got too cool for them and he moved up to killing Batman. That's right. Yeah. How do you feel about that, Teen Titans? Uh, okay, sure. Okay, sure. I mean, they just did the TV series for a few seasons. Sure, they did do that. And it pretty much had that lineup. And there's Teen Titans Go. There is Teen Titans
Starting point is 00:17:03 Go. Yeah. I've never seen Teen Titans, the show. It's good, right? People like some of it? I like the first season. I didn't like the second season. I watched some of the third season. What do you think about that? Some good?
Starting point is 00:17:15 That's great. It's great. I love all of it. Of course, it had Alan Richeson for a couple of seasons, and then he quit to be Jack Reacher. Who was he? He was Hawk. Hawk.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Hawk. And he's like, well, I could continue being Hawk or I could be Jack Rachel. Is he Teen Hawk? No, he's pretty much Adult Man Hawk. Okay, I was going to say it because he's a man. He's a man. He's Man Hawk. He's definitely a man.
Starting point is 00:17:34 I'll tell you the truth. This is via The Sun. See, it's bullshit. But it could end up being true. They're saying that Aaron Taylor Johnson is James Bond. He's a lock. Yeah, he said Bond is Aaron's job should he wish to accept it. The formal offer is on him.
Starting point is 00:17:50 That's not. That's how they say it. That's not how Bond accepts missions. It's just his job. He has to do it. No, should you wish. Do you want to accept it? No.
Starting point is 00:17:57 This Bond job is about to explode. I won't take it. You have to. You said I could choose. No, it's your job. We're giving you the illusion of choice like most jobs, but you just have't take it. You have to. You said I could choose. No, it's your job. We're giving you the illusion of choice like most jobs, but you just have to do it. The formal offer is on the table and they are waiting to hear back.
Starting point is 00:18:12 As far as Eon is concerned, Aaron is going to sign his contract in the coming days and they can start preparing for the big announcement. Ooh. E-News has said that Aaron Taylor-Johnson has not actually been offered the role of 007 at this time. There you go. So I would say, yeah, it sounds like he's probably one of the front runners. I mean, or is it potentially his agent has put his name in the press
Starting point is 00:18:34 to drum up some stuff? And then, you know, people, they gauge public reaction to it as well and they're like, oh, is it the people liking this guy, et cetera? Now, he's 33. So that would be, is that? That's a good age. When did Sean Connery start, I wonder? I think Sean Connery was a bit younger than that.
Starting point is 00:18:49 He's 50. He would have been 50 years old, right? Based on the vibe. Yeah, he's face and head. He would have been in his 50s. Yeah. How old was Sean Connery Bond? Nice.
Starting point is 00:18:59 He was 33. Whoa. Okay, all right. I mean, that was when the movie debuted. That's true. So this guy's already 33. How old was Daniel Craig? He would have been Whoa. Okay. All right. I mean, that was when the movie debuted. That's true. So this guy's already 33. How old was Daniel Craig? He would have been about that age.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Go to the Google machine. Maybe a bit younger. He's 56 now. I know that. So he was born in 68. First Bond is 2006. Yeah. Is that right?
Starting point is 00:19:20 His Bond came out. So it would have been 38. He would have been a bit older. Okay then. Great. Well, good. I mean, look been 38. He would have been a bit older. Okay then. Great. Well, good. I mean, look, Aaron Taylor-Johnson has certainly put the work in. He's been working a long time.
Starting point is 00:19:31 He's been in a lot of movies. Some of them are good. Some of them are Craven the Hunter upcoming. Yeah, that's right. Some of them are The Fall Guy. Oh, yeah, he's in The Fall Guy. You know who else is in The Fall Guy? Brad Pitt.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Yes, but also a guy I know. Who? Ben Knight. Do you know Ben Knight? Ben Knight. He's a stand-up comedian. He's an Australian stand-up comic. Well, it's filmed in Australia.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Yeah, he's a big, tall, red-headed guy. He used to be a teacher. Oh, I used to be a teacher. I know this guy. How do you know him? From comedy. Does he like me? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:57 I don't know if he knows you. Let me check if he follows me. But I think that's fun because I watch the trailer. I'm like, oh, that's a big, red-headed bloke. And then we get a close-up. I'm like, it's Ben Knight. He's very funny. He's a very nice guy also.. I'm like, it's midnight. He's very funny. He's a very nice guy also.
Starting point is 00:20:07 He's on LinkedIn and Facebook. Great. He's 48. So, you know, that's where they all are. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. We're in that middle bracket where you're not on the younger apps, but you're not, you know.
Starting point is 00:20:18 And I'm wondering, are there any other people we know in there? Perhaps Greg Larson is in there. Do you think he is? He was in The Tourist. He was in The Tourist recently, wasn't he? Yeah, yeah. Well, good for this guy who knows me. I don't know if he is.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Mason, trailers are high. I thought he might know you because you were also a teacher. Well, we don't all know each other, but he does know me. Okay, great. Even though we've never met. What do you think about Aaron Taylor-Johnson as Bond? Yeah. Do we imagine him with short hair?
Starting point is 00:20:43 No, you've got to cut that hair. Do we imagine him in the present day or the 60s? It's going to be present day. It will be present day because they've got to do all the product placement. Yeah, that's true, yeah. No, I can see him do either. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:55 He needs to cut the mullet though. Yeah, no, he's got to be. He can't be running around like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was also kick-ass. He was also kick-ass. Again, he's put the work in, certainly. And there's him in a tuxedo.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Whoa, that guy looks like James Bond. I quite like it. Yeah, I don't mind it either. Anyway, we don't know. We don't know. We just don't know. Trailers are hot. But anyway, it's good that he's going to be asked about that forever.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Because we've got the ship in the harbour. It's waiting to come in. Oh, with the trailers. But go on. But I'm just going to say, like, Clive, I watched a, did you watch the Clive Owen iconic roles video? Yes did video still being asked about that james bond yeah yeah and right at the end and also it turned out he was never in contention for that he said at the at the end of that maybe i'll watch a different maybe watch a different one but he was just like no
Starting point is 00:21:37 we never yeah i just people thought about it and now i just have to he didn't say this but but uh i mean his general his general attitude was basically, you know, I'm very grateful for the career and I've had lots of great roles and everything's been terrific. But he did, just as a matter of fact, he was like, yeah, I was never in contention. It's weird they never went to him at all, though. Like you'd think that they would have gone to him.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Yeah. Don't know. Because he wore a tuxedo that time. He wore a tuxedo that one time and he's in Children of Man, which is a good movie. Agreed. Anyway, let's bring that. Travellers Ahoy. Let's bring that one time and he's in Children of Man, which is a good movie. Agreed. Anyway, let's bring that. Trailers ahoy.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Let's bring that ship into the harbour. Wow, we've got so many trailers. God, we've got good structure and metaphors for this podcast. Don't we just? But this is a literal ship. Yeah, it is. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Quite apart from the metaphors and the framing. That's right. Furiosa got a brand new trailer. That's true. We got a bit more of the story. Yeah. A bit more of the background of the character. A bit more about the villain, Chris Hemsworth.
Starting point is 00:22:27 That's true. Being very Australian in it. He's very Australian. It's got the people, some people a bit like, oh, I don't know. There was a lot. It looks a bit hyper, real. That's true. There's also a lot of, I think, reveals in this trailer.
Starting point is 00:22:38 We get like the final Furiosa look, which I'm sure people knew we were going to get. The arm and the shaved head. The bionic arm head and the black forehead. Yeah, we got all that. The greasy forehead. It must be terrible for breakouts. Yes. We also got her life as a child in, is it the?
Starting point is 00:22:56 The Garden Place. The Megan Gale Garden Place that we see in Fury Road. Garden State. But it also reminded me because we actually recently rewatched, thank you, Zach Braff, Scrubs. Yes. Scrubs interns. Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:09 We recently rewatched original Mad Max. We're doing them for Caravan of Garbage, not this week, next. And there was a scene in that where Mad Max and his wife and his kid just go on holiday to Daylesford or Phillip Island. Phillip Island. Phillip Island. And I'm wondering if that the- That's where Chris Hemsworth is from too.
Starting point is 00:23:25 There you go. I'm wondering if the lush paradise that we see in Fury Road and Furiosa isn't like, it isn't some sort of mythical Garden of Eden place. It's just Phillip Island. Just Phillip Island. Man. So look, I guess I'd love this to be like as good as Mad Max Fury Road. Skepticism, obviously.
Starting point is 00:23:44 I know people are saying like there's a lot of CGI in this. There's a fucking shit ton of CGI in Fury Road. Watch any behind the scenes of that. It's just there's so much CGI stuff in that. A lot of it is done for real. But so many background replacements and vehicle stuff and whatever. And there is like real stunt work. Yeah, there's a decent combination of visual effects
Starting point is 00:24:04 and putting somebody in a big giant rubber band and having them spring into the air, you know? Exactly. So I'm hoping this is good. It's out in a couple of months or whatever it is. Then we've got a trailer for the Acolyte Star Wars. Sure. It broke some records.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Apparently most watched Star Wars trailer but big thumbs down also. Sure, okay. I love the poster. It's the lightsaber with like the blood drags down. Yeah, okay, sure, sure. Sorry, go on. I was going to say. No, okay. I love the poster. It's the lightsaber with the blood drags down. Yeah, okay, sure, sure, sure. Sorry, go on. I was going to say. I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Silence for the rest of the podcast. Yeah, please. I was going to say. No, sorry, go on. It looks, there is a nice combination, I think, of, I was going to say, nice combination. What I liked about it is I think a lot of the fight choreography looks very good.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Like it sort of seems very interesting and creative in a way. It seems to be more martial arts based than a lot of the more recent stuff. It's the High Republic era or whatever. Yeah, right. So they're perhaps more kind of more skilled and less wood choppy. Less wood choppy. Carrie-Anne Moss, Lee Jung-Jae. Carrie-Anne Moss, Lee Jung Jae, Carrie Moss, of course, Matrix, and there's a dude from Squid Game, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:25:10 That's true. Hello, I'm Squid Game. Now, look, I didn't mind the trailer. I didn't feel the need to furiously dislike it. But the thing I like about this is that the showrunner is Leslie Hedlund who did Russian Doll. Oh, great. So that's what I'm interested in for this of.
Starting point is 00:25:25 And it's a mystery. Who's the Sith? Who is it? People are saying Darth Plagueis maybe or some kind of rogue student. Who knows? Maybe a new guy. Maybe a – no. Darth Maul?
Starting point is 00:25:35 Yes, Darth Maul's back. Love that. Yeah. For the first time. Just his legs. Yeah. So when is this set? When is this set, BBY?
Starting point is 00:25:42 When is this set, BBY? It's Yoda's like 200 or something like that. Oh. I don't know. So it's set during Yoda's 200th birthday party. That's right. Okay. So this is.
Starting point is 00:25:51 They pull him aside and like Yoda. How old is he in Empire Strikes Back? He's 900, right? Yeah. There's a red lightsaber happening. Good birthday party. Oh, speaking of lightsabers. Yep.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Yellow lightsabers. Oh. Those are canon. They're canon now. They were before. They were. They were. They were. They're canon now. They were before. They were. They were. Calcestors have a yellow one.
Starting point is 00:26:07 I know you can make it yellow. Palpatine had a yellow lightsaber. That's true. That's not canon. It's true. What I didn't like about it is what I've probably not liked about a bunch of recent Star Wars stuff is there's a lot of stuff. I think I read that they were like, we didn't use the volume.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Well, it looks like you did use the volume and you didn't bring Greg Fraser in, creator of the volume, so it looks bad. A lot of it looks bad. You're just standing around. But again, it's not, it isn't the volume's fault. It is the fault of do it in post. Capitalism.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Yes, capitalism. But it is a case of we don't want to make any choices now because we might want to make some different choices later. So let's just do the most basic shot framing we possibly can and fix it in post. So we don't want a spectacular dynamic shot because what if we don't want to use it later and we don't have any boring stuff?
Starting point is 00:26:58 Do you really want that? Do you really want a spectacular dynamic shot? No, I want boring, boring stuff. Yeah, that's what I thought. But anyway, you could have fooled me that they didn't use the volume in a bad way. You, I want boring stuff. Yeah, that's what I thought. But anyway, you could have fooled me that they didn't use the volume in a bad way. You cannot be fooled, Mason. Do you think Greg Fraser, I don't know if he's connected to the internet
Starting point is 00:27:11 at all. June 4th. Yeah, go on. I'm wondering if any time a Star Wars trailer comes out, he's like, I'm going to get a torrent of abuse from people who think this is my fault. I think most people don't know that he does that at all. Yeah, I think a lot of people probably just. And if you do know, you probably like the stuff that he does. Yeah, I think you people don't know that he does that at all. Yeah, I think a lot of people probably just.
Starting point is 00:27:25 And if you do know, you probably like the stuff that he does. Yeah, I think you're probably right. I think probably people mostly just assume this is just regular green screen. He did the Batman. He did the Batman. Yeah. Mason, quick question. Are you team green or team black?
Starting point is 00:27:37 God, I'm going to have to make a stupid decision about whatever this stupid thing is. Team green or team black? I'm going to say team green. Yep. I just like, what shade of green? Like an Albany. An Albany.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Yeah. The town of Albany, New York. Exactly. An Albany style green. Exactly. Are you colorblind? Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:27:59 I guess I'm going to go with an Albany style green then. Because I just like more colors. You've chosen a particular family in Game of Thrones because there were two Game of Thrones trailers this week. Okay. One was for the black family and one was for the green family. I can't remember which is which. I didn't say this.
Starting point is 00:28:15 But there's two trailers. Okay. And they're dueling, fueling families. Dueling and fueling? They both got dragons. Damn. And who knows what's going to happen? You didn't watch that last season, did you? No, probably a big
Starting point is 00:28:26 dragon fight, I guess. It was. Game of Thrones prequel. Didn't see it. What was it called again? House of the Dragon. Yeah, man. I didn't see it. Check it out. But I guess I'm team green. Are you going to be team blacked up by default? No, I'm also team green. That's great. Yeah, we're on the same team. Unless you want to switch teams. No. If anything, I'm going to get you to switch teams
Starting point is 00:28:41 through bullying. I'll switch. I'm team black now. Fine. So, yeah, I'll continue watching this. I don't think I'm in to get you to switch teams through bullying. I'll switch. I'm Tim Black now. Fine. So, yeah, I'll continue watching this. I don't think I'm in love with it as much as everybody else is because there's a lot of like, ooh, who's going to win between these families? I'm like, I don't like anybody here.
Starting point is 00:28:55 And I didn't like anybody with the other Game of Thrones show. Now, this is set BBY, obviously. Yeah, but these are all like noble people. So I'd rather a grub wins. Sure, okay. Get a grub in there okay get a grub in there get a grub in there yeah so yeah it's set 200 years before whatever or something okay 100 years also when yoda was born when yoda was born it was his birthday okay that's terrific so that's great isn't it uh good yes um isn't is i guess the question again is because it's a prequel to game of Thrones, a lot of it is a foregone conclusion, right?
Starting point is 00:29:26 Sure. Okay. Yeah. And nobody's immortal. Nobody's surviving until Game of Thrones era. No. Oh, no, there's some old dudes and whatever. Some old dudes.
Starting point is 00:29:33 All right. All right. Not bad. Game of Thrones. So, you know, I'm doing a Game of Thrones now. We also got a trailer. It's a cinematic trailer for one of the next Marvel games. It's called Marvel 1943.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Sure. It's got Captain America and Black Panther as playable characters along with US Commando, Gabriel Jones and Wakandan spy Nanali. Okay, yeah. So this isn't gameplay footage, but apparently it's rendered in real time, et cetera. And Unreal Engine 5. It's pretty unreal.
Starting point is 00:30:03 It's genuinely pretty unreal. The face animation is looking real sharp. Yeah, I initially watched it on Twitter and I'm like, and like a lot of people, I was like, is this just video? But it's not. No. None of those are real men. Also, I know in 10 years some people might hear this
Starting point is 00:30:16 and they'll be like, actually, that looks like shit. You don't even know what it looks like because in 10 years we've got the future and the future looks way better. Well, the joke's on you. I didn't even watch it at all. So you look stupid. You look stupid. So as I said, out in 2025, I've completely forgotten about this.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Yeah. Now is this going to be in the style of like a- Assassin's Creed. Assassin's Creed. There we go. Like an open world little map. Open world sandbox situation. If I had to guess, I would say, and I don't know,
Starting point is 00:30:45 it would be more like a sniper elite where you're given an area. Okay. And you go in and do whatever. Then you throw your shield and it hits a guy right in the nuts and you see an X-ray view of their nuts exploding. Exactly. Terrific. And he goes.
Starting point is 00:30:58 My nuts. But in German. I did that. I said, ach, my nuts. My nuts. Yeah. Yeah, you're probably right. So I'm looking forward to it.
Starting point is 00:31:07 My nuts have exploded in my lederhosen. Ah. I'll never get that out. You really won't. You won't. You won't. I don't know what your situation will be, but it's bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:20 So, yeah, look forward to that next year. And then we've got a trailer for Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice? Oh, actually, before we to that next year. And then we've got a trailer for Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice? Oh, actually, before we get into that, just for a sec. No, there's some dialogue in the game. Is there some content to be mined here for the podcast? There's some dialogue in the game where they say Captain America says something along the lines of, well, there's me and there's this cat man
Starting point is 00:31:40 and so there's three superhumans in this area. Do you think they mean the Red Skull or do you think it's another secret guy? Like a Winter Soldier? Maybe. It wouldn't be him. Quick update for people who are looking forward to the new Captain America movie. Yeah. Sebastian Stan's not in it.
Starting point is 00:31:54 No, he's not in it. And neither is Daniel Brühl. Anthony Mackie. They took him out. Oh, no. Yeah, man. Oh, no. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Well, that's a shame. Is he in Thunderbolts? Daniel Brühl? Yes, he is. I think he's in the – I've lost track of who's – Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a shame. Is he in Thunderbolts? Daniel Brühl? Yes, he is. I think he's in the. I've lost track of who's. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But Anthony Mackie just came out and said, yeah, it's a shame.
Starting point is 00:32:10 It's a shame they're not in this. They're good. So this movie will be less good because they're not in it. Harrison Ford's in it. He's the Red Hulk. Shh, the secret. You're not supposed to know that. The man behind the mustache.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Yeah. So there you go. I don't know, man, about that Captain America movie. I just don't know. Okay, but who do you think the third guy is? Do you think it's the Red Skull? Oh, in the game? Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:29 It's probably Red Skull. It's probably Red Skull, yeah. Yeah. There would have been other super soldiers. There could be Isaiah Bradley. Yeah. Though probably not. Probably not.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Because he didn't find out about that until much later. That is true. Yeah. Good. That is all the thoughts. That's all we need. That's all we know. Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice?
Starting point is 00:32:45 Oh, yes. Michael Keaton's back. He's Beetlejuice. Winona Ryder's back. She's Beetlejuice's friend or something. That's right. I've never seen Beetlejuice in its entirety. I don't know much.
Starting point is 00:32:56 I mean, I know it, but I don't have an opinion. I don't. Yeah, I don't know anything about it either really. I mean, I first learned about Michael Keaton in first batman so i've not seen beetlejuice i don't think because you didn't want to didn't want to tarnish your opinion did beetlejuice come out out after batman i think it was before okay then that's why i haven't seen it all i know about it is there's a scene where 88 yeah two people in there's there's two as a husband and wife and they're like morphing their faces they're stretching their faces out in a hideous
Starting point is 00:33:24 form because they're dead and they're in thephing their faces. They're stretching their faces out in a hideous form because they're dead and they're in the afterlife or something. I don't know what it is. Apparently there's the choir of children. They're singing Deo. You know that song? Deo. That's a bit from the first movie and this is meant to be a funny little riff on that.
Starting point is 00:33:38 I mean, isn't this a sequel? Yes. Yeah. That's cool, man. So look, Tim Burton's back. It actually looks like a real movie. I love that. Do you know what I'm saying when I say that? Sure. Looks real, Tim Burton's back. It actually looks like a real movie. I love that. Do you know what I'm saying when I say that?
Starting point is 00:33:46 Sure. Looks real, like they made it. Yeah. So we'll see. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, looks can be deceiving. Maybe they didn't make it.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Yeah, they might have. Maybe this is an ad for Verizon or something. Talcum powder. Verizon brand talcum powder. Yeah. Hey, you put your phone in your ear too much and your ear's all oily and your phone's oily? Verizon talcum powder. And go to a doctor. $29.99 a month. With your oily, your ear too much and your ear's all oily and your phone's oily? Verizon talcum powder.
Starting point is 00:34:06 And go to a doctor. $29.99 a month. With your oily, oily ear. Yeah. This is my favorite trailer from the week, though. It's for Alien Romulus. Sure. It's Fede Alvarez who did the Evil Dead 2013 reboot.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Yes, and also something else. And something else good that I liked. His credits were in there and it's like, oh, yeah, not bad. So I watched an interview with him. I can't remember on what. else. And something else good that I liked. His credits were in there and it's like, oh yeah, not bad. So it seemed, I watched an interview with him, I can't remember on what. God, we're good with the memories this week. I wasn't going to bring it up because I'd only just remembered it now.
Starting point is 00:34:33 He's from Uruguay. Whoa. Oh, Don't Breathe. He's in the movie Don't Breathe. Which is about the blind guy and they go into his house? Yes. Sorry, it's the movie podcast. They did an interview. Great name. But it is a good name. Great name. Oh, what's a podcast about movies?
Starting point is 00:34:47 It's called the movie podcast. These guys have 103,000 views on this video. How many views have you got on this video, Mason? How many views have you got on this? On their video? No, on this that we're doing now. How many views have you got on that? There's only none currently.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Exactly. It hasn't been published yet. Exactly, idiot. Oh, how many do you have? I'm not saying I'm better than these guys. Wow. I mean, I do think that, but I would never say it. It was a good interview, but he talks
Starting point is 00:35:10 about kind of the inspiration behind it and speaking to James Cameron. Was it earlier Alien movies? That was a big part of it. That's great. James Cameron. And these guys are like, well, that's good because we talk about movies. So that's actually checkbox for us. Check. Big tick. Not books. No. Okay, well then cross.
Starting point is 00:35:28 So James Cameron, he spoke to James Cameron and also Ridley Scott and they both I think watched his movie and they took different things from it because obviously Alien Aliens they won as a sequel but they're very different styled movies but both very interesting and great in their own ways. And both Ridley Scott and James Cameron said if if you mess this up, we'll kill you. We'll kill you. We'll team up and we'll kill you. We haven't killed any of the previous directors that messed these movies up,
Starting point is 00:35:50 but we will kill you. We've had Jack of it, quite frankly. Some of these are bad. Yeah. So apparently, yeah, it draws inspiration from those two movies, even looks-wise. I think there's two ships or two stations, I remember him saying, and one of them is the older technology,
Starting point is 00:36:03 so it's kind of the technology from the first Alien, and one is more what we see in Aliens. Sure, okay. So you've got these two kind of different settings. Apparently a lot of it's to do with siblings and all of that. So it's called Alien Romulus because of Romulus and Remus is that thing, or whatever. It's a thing.
Starting point is 00:36:17 It's a thing and a parable and a fable or whatever. What else was I going to say? I can't remember. Romulus is in the Vulcans. Exactly. So forth, yes. So this comes out, I think it's August. I'm jazzed for this, man.
Starting point is 00:36:32 I'm jazzed too. It'd be nice to get a good alien movie. Sure. Now this is probably ignoring the events of most of the other alien movies. Well, it's set between one and two. Okay, right. So it's like 20 years after one maybe. Very convenient.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Yes. Because Ripley was in hypersleep for 50 plus years, right? She was. There you go. And then her. But this movie does have another Ripley in it. Yeah. A Ripley type person.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Pulse rifle. But seeing the face huggers like sprinting and jumping. Yeah, yeah, that was good. Yeah. I was going to say it's sort of, you know, there's a certain point with these movies where the tension disappears because everybody's got a pulse rifle and a flamethrower and a power loader.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Also, you've seen these things before. Yes, exactly, yeah. You want to reclaim the terror of those things. Absolutely. It looks exciting. I also don't mind the idea that it is a different continuity to the new. Like I like some of the new ones. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:24 I don't think he's throwing, I think he said he's not throwing anything out. Yeah. I think perhaps I read something along the lines of it's not going to include the continuity of, you know, remember David in the. The Prometheus. The Prometheus.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Oh, that's right. That they are throwing out. Okay. But I also, I think, you know, it's, you could very, I like the idea in that movie that, well, humans created the androids and then the android created the aliens that are destroying the world and that's the evolution there. But I also.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Maybe he stumbled across it. Exactly. Or it's, you know, it works for me like, well, maybe that's a story that was told and maybe it's not the official story or, you know, what have you. And it's a big universe and some people think that the aliens came out through this way and some people think that the aliens came out through this way and some people, you know. Yeah, and maybe he, as I said, like they are this ancient whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Weapon or whatever. And then he also happened to stumble across, he re-engineered it somehow. Yeah, sure, sure, sure. It's both. It's two things. So alien. As long as we get one of those big stony white guy engineers going, I don't like this.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Or I do like a lot. I don't want any of that. That's not. I like it a lot. Let's not. You know what I'm getting a lot of? What's that? Fucking YouTube.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Ray Hiz. No. No. Because you've got them all already. I don't. You've got them all already. YouTube shorts. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Of like movie facts. And it's AI. It's an AI voice over AI images of being like, this is the upcoming alien movie. and it's just like AI junk images and terrible voice. That's interesting. I keep being like, I don't want to see these. They keep popping up.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Yeah, right. And I like them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's probably why they see them. I get on Instagram, I get a lot of, on the Explore page, I get a lot of. Fornos? Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:39:02 But also I get a lot of stuff from like, it'll be accounts called like True Marvel facts and it'll be like true marvel fact number 451 one time magneto was gonna zap blast everybody but then and then wolverine did a big punch that's true yeah it's a true marvel fact great what a good a good true marvel fact you's really cool, can you please link that to me? I'll send those to you I want my feet flooded with that Now I said that was my favourite trailer of the week But my real favourite trailer of the week
Starting point is 00:39:32 Was for Rebel Moon Part 2, The Scar Giver Sure They're all back, they're actually going to finish their Seven Samurai They started to set up their Seven Samurai In the first movie, now they're going to do it They're really going to do it for real Are you worried that they're going to Will they. They're really going to do it for real. Do you think, are you worried that they're going to, will they be able to beat the guy they already beat?
Starting point is 00:39:48 Will they be able to beat Ed Skrind for a second time? I don't know because they took him out of a bag in this trailer and he looks even tougher. By that I mean the same. He looks exactly the same. Yeah, he's probably a bit upset though. I mean that'll give him the resolve. Remember he had a phone call with the Emperor and the Emperor was like,
Starting point is 00:40:03 I'm disapproving of you, Ed Skrind. That's resolve. Remember he had a phone call with the emperor and the emperor was like, I'm disapproving of you. That's right. He had a goo phone call. He did have a goo phone call when he was in some sort of goo bath getting attacked by tentacles or whatever. Yeah. Yep. Good. Coming out.
Starting point is 00:40:15 I mean, we can't stop it, can we? Would we want to? No. No. I'm glad. Me too. Maybe it's the good one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Have you ever seen a movie that you really, really didn't like, but then a few months later they released another movie as its direct sequel and that one was actually really good? No. This will be the first time. This will be the first one. And then if somebody emails in one day to the podcast and they go, Hey, I've got a question.
Starting point is 00:40:37 I've got a question. Have you ever watched a movie that's really bad and then the sequel is really good? We can go, yes. Now that you mention it. Rebel Moon parts one and two. So we'll have an answer pre-made for that, and that's perfect. That's really good. That's a great idea.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Yep. All right. But then I'd also reply, do you not listen to the podcast? Yeah, come on, man. Don't you hear literally everything we say? Come on. Because we've talked about that at length. To death.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Oh, April 19th. It's coming in hot. God, that is coming in hot. That robot's fighting. That robot's fighting now. They're barely going to have time to release the super R-rated version of the first one that's super cool and even better. Are they going to do that beforehand?
Starting point is 00:41:11 I don't know, maybe. Well, look at this cast. Yeah, it's a shame, isn't it? Fucking waste. Maybe it's great. Nobody's defending this movie, though, are they, really? Would Audioslave contribute a song for that trailer if they didn't think it was good they would uh but i because we were to use that song in the iron man
Starting point is 00:41:29 trailer in 2008 that's a good song i because we were talking about like if so they stopped making the zack snyder zombie movies yes and i'd imagine this could go any which way but they're going to stop the rebel moon universe after this rebel moon Moon universe? Do you think people will rally behind the return of the Rebel Moon universe? And I think no because these aren't iconic characters. People just want to see Zack Snyder tamper with the DC universe forever. You think that the Snyder fandom isn't necessarily on board with just Snyder stuff specifically. No.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Or maybe they're on board with Snyder stuff plus DC and everything he's done before that because it's like, well, it's more content. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you're saying after this if he doesn't have the big characters. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe people have, you know, they've really grown to love.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Name one character. Short Hair Lady? Yeah, Short Hair Lady, the Scargiver. Spider Woman. No, you're thinking of Madame Webb. I am thinking of Madame Webb. God, it's a real shame when a movie has less memorable characters than. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Anthony Hopkins' robot character, his name is Jimmy. Jimmy the Robot, I love that. Ed Skrind's name is Atticus Noble. Yep, sure, great. It's probably a reference. The guy who did the Avatar who flew on the bird. I love that. Ed Skrin's name is Atticus Noble. Yep, sure. Great. It's totally a reference. The guy who did the Avatar who flew on the bird. Yep.
Starting point is 00:42:49 His name's Tarek. Tarek. Love that. Yeah. So these are all. I love all those guys. They're iconic. You know?
Starting point is 00:42:57 Yep. Yeah. Yeah, good. Was Jenna Malone the spider? Yes, she was. The spider was called Hamada. Hamada the spider. Do you think that's what they referred to her on set as,
Starting point is 00:43:09 Hamada the spider? Almost certainly. Yeah, that's what I thought. Anyway, we'll see. Anything can be good, including this. Not this, though. Including. Wow.
Starting point is 00:43:17 I've got to stop saying that. Yeah. It feels like you're not committing, you know what I mean? Yeah. We should be free to say our real thoughts. Okay, I don't think it's going to be good, I don't think it's going to be good. I don't think it's going to be good. I don't think he's going to.
Starting point is 00:43:27 But also would love to be, this is my new thing, would love to be surprised. I agree. Imagine if it was incredible. That's what I'm saying. When we were talking about, you know, first Rebel Moon. Yep. Rebel Moon, a child on fire.
Starting point is 00:43:39 I said I would be loved to like, you know. New sci-fi universe. He's thrown off the shackles of having to work with characters that he didn't create. This is all his own work. He's got everybody he wants, all his actor friends. Budgets unlimited. Limited budget, can do whatever he wants, and this will be it.
Starting point is 00:43:56 I'll be able to stand shoulder to shoulder with those Snyder fans and go, yeah, this was a good one. Good call. Good call backing him years ago when he was making bad movies. Now he's made a good movie. He has made good movies, Mason, which is why I will continue to say anything can be good. Should we move it along?
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Starting point is 00:45:29 of the wrong time trilogy. Oh, no. We've got Men in Black International. Oh, bad call. We've got The Eternals. Bad call. We've got this. Nice.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Ghostbusters Frozen Empire. I've written a Ghostbusters afterlife, but that's a different Ghostbusters movie. I've seen two of the people in this movie do stand-up. Whoa, which ones? Kamao and Patton Oswalt. Well, I've seen one of them then. I know. I like Kama Ghostbusters movie. I've seen two of the people in this movie do stand-up. Whoa, which ones? Kamau and Patton Oswalt. Well, I've seen one of them then. I like Kamau Najiani. I agree. And I enjoy, he did that Chippendales show.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Did you see that? Oh, no, I didn't see it, but that was good, yeah. It was great. Anyway, on a budget of $100 million, it's going to have a roughly... That's cheap as chips. No, a roughly $45 million US opening, which is on par with the last one, which is good, but this one costs $25 million more than the previous one. Oh, sure, sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:46:09 I don't know why. Because they had to do it in New York City, baby. They've got to get those New York City baby permits. I don't think they filmed much of it in New York. Also, that last one, they resurrected a dead man, and now is that cheaper? That's a good point, actually. Anyway, what do you think the story was?
Starting point is 00:46:21 Oh, come on, mate. Yep. All right. Ghostbusters are back in New York, baby. Yep. They're going to have a big time ghostly New York adventure. They are, aren't they? They're all back.
Starting point is 00:46:29 All your faves. Who? Paul Ryan. Every single person. Yeah, everybody from the last one. Even the ones that were trapped in that nowhere town who had no prospects and no way to get to New York. Well, they're in New York, baby.
Starting point is 00:46:39 That's right. And there's even more people. There's even more. And now there's ghosts. There's all the ghosts. Even people who weren't in the last one, but they were in the original Ghostbusters, they're back as well. Who?
Starting point is 00:46:49 Walter Peck. Walter Peck's back. And a thing is coming. Yeah, spooky ghost thing. It's going to come. It is going to. It's going to get to the thing. And you've got to stop it from getting to the thing on time.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Is that what was happening? You've got to block it. It's coming. I don't think it had to get to the thing. You've got to get there. It was going to get to the, because the ghost house was the central point of energy. Yeah, but I'm not sure they had to get to the thing. It's got to get there. It was going to get to the, because the ghost house was the central point of energy. Yeah, but I'm not sure they had to get there. Where was it going there then?
Starting point is 00:47:11 Just to have a bit of a walk around. I don't think that's why it was trying to get there. Anyway, there's a big thing and it's trying to get there. And that Ghostbusters has got to stop it. They'll put their foot down. It's a big Frozen thing. That's right. Okay, I just want to say this to Ghostbusters fans.
Starting point is 00:47:22 I feel like I've been very cruel to you in terms of me saying that all the ghostbusters stuff is not great except the first ghostbusters movie which is pretty good ghost dust ghost dusters and i think like watching this right james are you gonna lead up to a funny joke this is a genuine question i think this also applies to you because you're a big ghostbusters fan if you are a ghostbusters fan yes are you fucking happy with the shit that they're doing like are you satisfied yeah with the are you satisfied a lot of like well it had the proton packs and i saw egon's fucking trench coat or whatever or like slimer was in it but are you happy with these like muddled watered down recycled ideas where, like, the surviving Ghostbusters turn up and they stand next to each other
Starting point is 00:48:06 and they shake their proton sticks for ten seconds and they all fall over. Like, is this what people want out of this fucking franchise? It's a great question. Don't you want, like, the Andor of Ghostbusters? Yeah, right. Like, I know people don't love new Star Wars. I understand that.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Folks, he's working his way to a big ol' rant. You can point to things in Star Wars and be like, that's great, right? I'm talking about the new stuff, even. I can't point to a single fucking thing from Ghostbusters outside of, oh, there's some good comics,
Starting point is 00:48:39 that's like, this is definitively great. Okay, but could you say that about, if we're talking Star Wars, in between Star Wars original trilogy and Andor, there's some stuff that is great. I agree. I agree. But I think there's also some watered down stuff in there as well.
Starting point is 00:48:58 But there's, again, emphasis on there's some great stuff. Yes. Whereas this, it's the same thing. And like a thing shows up. It's basically the villain is the same villain that they've always had. It's a thing from a whatever and it's trying to get out and it needs to get to a thing. And let's assemble the Ghostbusters. Except this time you've got to assemble the team from 2021 and there's 18 of them.
Starting point is 00:49:20 And then you've got to assemble whoever's left and alive. And then I feel like there are people giving it their all, like Dan Aykroyd's coming in and he's in this a lot and I feel his passion for the paranormal and that comes through and he's got fun with it, adventures. Does he know he's in a movie though? And even Ernie Hudson, they've developed that character where he's not, like there's even a scene where Dan Aykroyd's character
Starting point is 00:49:43 and Ernie Hudson's character have an actual conversation. Like they had in the car in the first one. Exactly. Yeah. But then Bill Murray just rolls in and he's just kind of stumbling about, I'm here too, here's a quip. What are you even doing? Why do you do these?
Starting point is 00:49:59 Why do you, you clearly don't like them. Maybe he must be in them. We've talked about this before, but the three original Ghostbusters, the actors had some sort of rule where no sequel could go ahead without their say-so even if they weren't in them. But I suspect there is a further clause that they didn't know about that meant they must be in them. I'll tell you this, James.
Starting point is 00:50:21 I would say generally, I would say your criticisms are valid. I would say as a fan of especially the first, the original Ghostbusters, I did enjoy this. But I think some of those criticisms you pointed out are very valid. Like there are so many characters in this. I think as the movie came to the end, I think they clearly had planned like, okay. It feels like a race shoot as well.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Talk about why. Yeah, I suspect by the end, like there are so many characters in this that when you return to Southwark and you go, oh, they're in this. I remember now. But they're like – Because there's Patton Oswalt, James Acaster is in it as well, who I like, Kamau Nanjiani. These are new people.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Yeah, Finn Wolfhard's friends from the previous movie who were trapped in the nowhere town. They've made it to – Podcast is here. Yeah, they've found various means to get them to New York City. And there's so many characters, but I feel like they all had a role to play and I think that as contrived as some of it is, I think by the end we reach a satisfying conclusion with them at the end.
Starting point is 00:51:22 No. Okay, fine. But I, I feel like, you know, it was, I, I enjoyed all the characters, even the new guys. And there are so many new guys. Yeah. I feel like it all came together in a satisfying way at the end. Um, and I think it's, I feel like it's this, it's pretty much also the same thing that happened in the last one, I guess is a spoiler, but you've seen this movie, but that's franchise movie.
Starting point is 00:51:42 No, exactly. And that's what my problem with it as well is that, like, the old team get together and you get to see, like, Janine's there now and she's got, like, a wrist ghost proton pack. Yeah, sure, sure. And, like, even she suits up. But for what? Again, the four of them stand in a line and they just,
Starting point is 00:51:57 and I can imagine them filming on the day and they're just shaking the proton packs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they go, whoa, and they fall over. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, but then someone else comes and they really just shaking the proton packs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then they go, whoa, and they fall over. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then someone else comes and they really zap the thing. Look, if I can be critical about this, James, if you'll allow me to be critical about this movie for just a minute
Starting point is 00:52:13 in between your gushing appraisal. It's not even as good as the 2021 one. I think it's better than the 2021. At least that was not like, oh, but it was Ghostbusters again, but not the whole thing. If I can be critical of this one, James, if you'll allow me for a moment, stop saying how good it is. I think they've perhaps overcorrected in hedging their bets with this one
Starting point is 00:52:35 because as we all know, they whipped out the 2016 one-all girl Ghostbusters, no boys allowed Ghostbusters, and people hated it because it was like, well, we don't even, the last one's not even in continuity it's doesn't it's a whole separate it's all gone and i think with with the last one they were like okay we need to sort of pass the torch to the new generation of ghostbusters and i think in this one they're like let's do a tiny bit more of passing the torch let's get him in the firehouse let's's do that. And then if there is another sequel, then we really need this particular audience and general audiences to say, okay, will the previous Ghostbusters approve of this new team?
Starting point is 00:53:16 Yeah. And they've worked together and now we can move forward with the next adventure kind of thing. Sure. Just take us three movies to get there. And, look, I don't even think this is dreadful. I think it's so middle of the road. I think McKenna Grace is still like a good lead.
Starting point is 00:53:34 I think she's a great Egon's granddaughter. And I like Finn Wolfhard. Are they saying Spangler now? Did they say Spengler? Have they said Spengler? I feel like they've said Spengler in every other movie and now they're going with Spangler. It feels kind of like somebody went, oh, you're not Spangler.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Yeah. They actually say Spangler and they went, oh, no. I didn't notice that at all. Will you have to change it? I thought it was Spangler. Yeah, I think I, you know, again – But I feel like they're trying to be like this is an all-ages adventure. Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:04 And I think you do disservice to people who like ghost blowjobs people who like ghost blowjobs they're like the original movie the humor doesn't work as well because you can't be specific and weird and niche it's just general oh whatever okay right right like you know like the the mayor turns up at the end and it's Walter Peck And then Bill Murray's there and he's just like, hey, it's you But then the crowd And someone in the crowd goes, shut up, Dickless, or whatever And that's it
Starting point is 00:54:33 Also, they all end that way They all walk into the street and everyone fucking cheers It's like the same thing Well, I cheer, James Also, the ghost containment unit blows up and all the ghosts get out Oh, it's Ghostbusters 1 Exactly That's it, James. Also, the ghost containment unit blows up and all the ghosts get out. Oh, it's Ghostbusters 1. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:54:50 And you don't even see, like, the ghosts really running amok. You know? It's just vague ghosts just kind of whizzing about. Like, the Frozen Empire is, like, 15 minutes of this movie and maybe in real time. Yeah. And the villain's like a skeleton with horns who can freeze people sometimes but not everybody because some people survive being like they've frozen the trailer
Starting point is 00:55:08 well done, you've convinced me that I didn't have fun watching this movie you're allowed to like this movie no no no no, I didn't now I've been to the Ghostbusters reddit they seem very happy with it and I genuinely good if you like it, but don't you want something that elevates it or takes it in a different
Starting point is 00:55:28 direction or they go into different dimensions or time travel or they establish new characters properly and they don't just have original characters show up and, and go, I'm here. I'm also like, don't you want something? Don't you want something else from this?
Starting point is 00:55:43 Yes, I do. But I quite like this one. I am. I'm? Yes, I do, but I quite like this one. I'm afraid so. I mean, it felt to me like it was, you know, another episode in the day-to-day humdrum life of Ghostbusters. But it's also world ending and it's like, you know?
Starting point is 00:55:59 But, again, it's not. Anyway. But also. There's a ghost girl in it as well. Oh, there is a ghost girl. There's too many storylines. There's too many. There were probably too many, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:09 And they're just trying to heavily market these marshmallow men. Just drop it. You think they're selling those? It's over. I didn't know they were selling those anyway. I'm sure they are. It's like a Minions kind of meme-able whatever. They could do like webisodes about the marshmallow little babies
Starting point is 00:56:26 or whatever. I don't know. Am I the only one who's like that's done now? Yes. Okay. Look, to me it felt like a fun, I feel it was quite good and fun and I like the idea. Things I like about it.
Starting point is 00:56:41 What did you like about it, James? I like Paul Rudd and Carrie Coon as the mum and maybe he's the dad. I thought that was quite fun. What if you did like Evil Dead Rise? Uh-huh. Just to think, like take one or two of them and just do like an isolated story where it's not just the first Ghostbusters movie. Like they're trapped with an entity in a whatever.
Starting point is 00:57:06 I don't know. Well, I mean, I think they could. Maybe they go into the afterlife. I think they could do that, but I think it's. Well, so the budget would be like half of what this is. Yeah, but I think we need this one because I genuinely think we need this one for certain people to accept that this is the new status quo going forward. I think then you're only pleasing people who want to see Slimer.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Like don't you also want to get, like the people, like the new Evil Dead movie didn't do really well because it was exclusively original Evil Dead fans. It was like, this is a good horror movie on its own. That's true. And I know you could bring a kid to this and they're like, yeah, whatever, Slimer eats the pizza and whatever. Oh, he ate that pizza.
Starting point is 00:57:44 What's funny? Like, what jokes? Let me think. I can get here. Let me do it. The Kamau Nanjiani-Bill Murray conversation was all right, I guess. That was pretty funny, yeah, I liked that. Again, it's that same thing that Bill Murray did in the other movies where he sits down
Starting point is 00:57:58 for like a psychic interview. It's the same thing. That's true. I liked it. Is he contractually obligated to just do the same thing? Is he refused to do other things in this movie? Maybe he's aging like he's got the contract there and he's like
Starting point is 00:58:12 Bill Murray will not stand up. God, he looks so bored. He does, doesn't he? And not in the fun way. Because we talked about Afterlife a few weeks ago. We did a movie commentary on it. I need to apologize to that movie. It struck me, and I just thought about it this week,
Starting point is 00:58:29 that Sigourney Weaver is like a staggering beauty and she remains such. Yep. What are you going to say about Bill Murray? Bill Murray is a mummy now. Bill Mummy. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I mean, even look at Ernie Hudson. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Incredible. Incredible. This could be set five years after the first for him. Look, and again, I enjoyed the fact that we had – I liked the fact that Dan Aykroyd had a more substantial role. I agree. I think Dan Aykroyd is genuinely invested in these. And I think the same can be said for Ernie Hudson.
Starting point is 00:59:04 But maybe pair – I don't know, the Muppet more. I don't know. I don't know what to do with this. Let's do spoilers. Okay, cool. I'm going to say best movie ever. I'm not even going to say it's the worst movie ever. There you go.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Because this is clearly what people want. Just this. Just this again and again. Look, I think the next one they're probably going to mix it up if we get another one. But, yeah, look, I feel like I personally. I'm Walter Peck. I want to close down the Ghostbust.
Starting point is 00:59:29 You did this already. And then another guy did it in the second movie. Come on, man. I think if you like this franchise more, and I think some people will like this franchise more, are like, this is what we want. This is a bit of fun and I like to see, you know. Aim higher.
Starting point is 00:59:48 I won't. I refuse. I refuse. I don't know what it is about this franchise that upsets us. I liked Dan Aykroyd and McKenna Grace and podcast getting in the little motorcycle and the sidecar. See, a new thing. There you go. There you See, a new thing. There you go.
Starting point is 01:00:05 There you go, a new thing. It's got a little, like, rail gun kind of thing in it. Yeah, I like the family dynamic. Oh, the lions came to life. They stood next to the lion in the first movie. That's so true. Oh, the librarians here. Okay, I'll tell you what.
Starting point is 01:00:18 The librarians here. I think there was some definite stuff where I think they probably went too overboard with the fan service. There's the moment where Dan Aykroyd goes into the New York Public Library and we see the librarian goes from the first one, but there's no payoff there. No. I reckon if they'd even –
Starting point is 01:00:33 It's just you had to have known. Yeah, that's true. And then we see the main librarian guy there and he's like, oh, it's this guy. I don't like this guy from earlier. I kind of feel like I would have loved to have seen a moment where Dan Aykroyd's character and the library ghost have a little conversation, which is like, sorry.
Starting point is 01:00:52 He should say sorry. I was having a bad hundred years, you know, kind of thing. I also think Kamau Nanjiani, like, he should be in this more because there's, okay, we're doing spoilers, because he's the fire master. He's not the key. He's a different guy. He's the fire master or spoilers because he's the he's the he's the fire master he's not the key he's not the key he's a different guy master or whatever he's the fire man uh-huh and he kind of disappears in the end he comes back and it's just like our fire powers yes and that's part and then we'll we'll zap the ghost in a slightly different way yep and we'll contain it figure that out feel knock its horns off and that's right but it's not even as good as the
Starting point is 01:01:24 villain from the the second from the second one. The second villain. Oh, Viggo. Yeah, Viggo. Well, Viggo I think is also a pretty good villain. Yeah, I mean this was a kind of nothing. I'll concede, James. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:33 And I'll just stop there. Where's the personality in that thing? I know you love this villain, but I'm going to say where's the personality? You know what I mean? He's just a guy with some horns. And he's glowing. Yeah, no, you're right. And again, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:44 I mean, again, I think it is that sort of Marvel syndrome. You know what? with some horns and he's glow yeah no you're right and again i yeah i mean i think again i think it is that sort of marvel syndrome yeah you know what maybe i wonder if it's because this is in in some in some way this is kind of marvel in a different with a different coat of paint absolutely it is it's sony marvel it's yeah it's it's when you you have such a big ensemble of of heroic characters, the good guys, and you're like, well, we want to spend so much time with them, and then you don't spend enough time making a compelling villain.
Starting point is 01:02:10 There's not enough time and there's no space to go, okay, well, what's the history of this character? We're going to see it expand, you know? Imagine if you teamed up like Bill Murray and McKenna Grace for like a just that they have their own adventure kind of movie sure and that's the movie and i don't know whether he'd do that you could really give it to any of the ghostbusters yeah sure sure and like you can have the other ones at the start or whatever i would do probably i would probably do mckenna grace and
Starting point is 01:02:38 it's mckenna grace right sure not mckenzie might be i'm confused i confuse all the mechanics and mckenzie's uh but it i would say her and Dan Aykroyd. Yep. I would love to see if they're going to do a sequel. Here's McKenna Grace. If this makes enough money to warrant a sequel, I would love to see. Which is mine. Yeah, I would love to see maybe Rey and McKenna's character.
Starting point is 01:03:00 Maybe. Yeah, on a little motorbike adventure. I think that would be fun. They go a little bit out of town and they investigate a haunted house. Even a TV series? Yeah. Like a live action something? I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:03:12 I think there's some stuff cut in this as well. Do you remember the bit in the trailer where they're all standing on the roof in their red jackets and they're like, whoa. None of them are wearing – only two of them are wearing the red jacket. Paul Rudd is not wearing the red jacket in this. Like that was a big deal. No, Red on Rudd. Yeah, and I think maybe that red jacket. Paul Rudd is not wearing the red jacket in this. Like that was a big deal. Red on Rudd. Yeah, and I think maybe that red jacket thing maybe was tied
Starting point is 01:03:28 into defeating the villain. Also, the girl from the first movie, the last movie, is an intern. She gets frozen in the trailer and you see her like eye freeze over. And that rooftop scene she has with Finn Wolfhard looks like a reshoot because they took out the other rooftop scene. So I don't know whether she died or was frozen for the rest of the movie and now we have to bring her back in. I think they trimmed some of this for gore.
Starting point is 01:03:52 Or not gore, but I think. Horror? For example, the key element is this orb which contains this ice ghost. Yeah. And I think potentially, and James Acaster is a sort of a ghost researcher that's been hired by Winston to do more. He's a new Egon kind of character. I enjoyed his work there.
Starting point is 01:04:15 I like him. But I suspect he might have lost an arm in the. Okay. But, and again, because, yeah, in the trailer it looks like everybody's being killed by this. And the plot armour saves all the main characters. It does look like that. Everybody lives.
Starting point is 01:04:30 Everybody lives. And you hate that, don't you? Yeah, I do. It's the same problem that the end of Jurassic World Dominion had where like now you've got 19 characters now. That's true. You have to do some culling. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:40 Something else I was going to say that I didn't like or did like. I don't know. Oh, yeah, there's a machine that you can turn into a ghost for a minute. Oh, yeah. And you get in that. Oh, yeah, because I'll go in, it's going to turn me into a ghost, but then it's only for two minutes and then I'm going to be able to jump back in my body. Are you sure?
Starting point is 01:04:56 That looks like a vending machine. Oh, sorry the teenage girl didn't make the super correct decision, James. I think any person. Sorry your characters aren't perfect. Nobody would do that in the world, let alone somebody that intelligent. I don't know. Anyway, there was a better way to have the ghost get out of the ghost ball. Hey, look at me.
Starting point is 01:05:16 I'm Phoebe. He's got big glasses on. Big glasses. Big fake glasses on. Okay, here's what I think. I don't think they're going to do smaller stories. I'm playing chess. This is what they're going to do. stories. I'm playing chess. This is what they're going to do.
Starting point is 01:05:25 Yes. I suspect. Uh-huh. They're going to do a Ghostbusters multiverse story. They're going to bring back everything. I think they wouldn't dare. I think they're going to be like, look, it's all the Ghostbusters team up from everything. I don't think they will.
Starting point is 01:05:39 They need somewhere to go, and Sony love a multiverse. I shall put one human dollar on an official weekly Planet of Bet that they will not bring back the girl Ghostbusters. I think that will do it if this makes enough money, but I'm not sure whether you could justify the cost of doing that because all of those people would cost a lot of money also. That's true, yeah. Plus you've got to bring back original Ghostbusters,
Starting point is 01:06:02 plus you've probably got to bring back, you've probably got to have a flashback with young Egon Spengler. That's true. And. Plus you've got to bring back original Ghostbusters, plus you've probably got to bring back, you've probably got to have a flashback with young Egon Spengler. That's true. And then maybe you do the animated version. You bring in the animated Ghostbusters, yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe you could even bring in the 1970s, the Ghostbusters. Yeah, okay. I think there is a road there that they have definitely considered.
Starting point is 01:06:19 And we've seen it in the comics. Yeah, it wouldn't shock me if they bring in the filmmation Ghostbusters with the haunted car and the gorilla and whatever i i think i reckon there's a there's a huge red flag over 2016 ghostbusters i completely agree but have you ever known sony to make a good decision i've never made a good decision what i'm saying i'm not like ghostbusters frozen empire i'm not saying that good lord this is a great idea i think it's bad but there is no way the Sony multiverse, all that multiverse shit they've been doing, they have not considered this. They're like four or five years behind
Starting point is 01:06:49 every other. They're four or five years behind Marvel, who have already discovered, to the dismay, that not everybody loves multiverse stuff if it's bad. Yep. Anyway, I got some tweets here from people who saw it. IG says, hashtag Wicked Planet Pod, just saw Ghostbusters Frozen Empire plus The Last Firebender. Best movie ever. There you go. Mike says, just saw Ghostbusters Frozen Empire plus The Last Firebender.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Best movie ever. There you go. Mike says, I enjoyed Ghostbusters Frozen Empire, but it's kind of hard to celebrate the success when they cause the problems in multiple ways. I'm with the mayor. Shut them down. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:07:15 And Cappy Kid says, just get out of Ghostbusters Frozen Empire. Someone should talk to Dan. I call it he's playing a character and not himself. Best movie ever. So, yeah, again, I think the reviews, I think it's like Rotten Tomatoes is like 45%, which is also nearly half of critics were more positive. I don't think that's as bad as people don't know how to read Rotten Tomatoes.
Starting point is 01:07:35 That's true. I think 45% is 45 out of 100. Everybody gave it a 45. Yeah, which is not how that works. But the audience score is good. And, again, in the Ghostbusters fucking Reddit, people are like, I loved it. And I loved seeing all my friends from the 80s.
Starting point is 01:07:52 I wonder if that is also because we have a point of view character in the form of Paul Rudd who loved original Ghostbusters. Point Rudd. What? Just doing riffs, Mason. Oh, that was a good riff, I think. It was a good riff. If only I'd jumped on that and added to it.
Starting point is 01:08:05 You could have continued the riff and yet you have not. Point. Break. Point break. Point cook. Oh, yeah. It's a place in Australia. It's my favourite place.
Starting point is 01:08:14 Yeah. Yeah. All right. It's in Paul Rudd point of view character though. That's what you're saying. Paul Rudder is the audience. Direction. Direction, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:23 Yeah, man. I love that. Maybe every movie should have a guy who loves. The Avengers had Coulson who loved Captain America specifically. If pressed, I'm sure he would say I love all Marvel superheroes. Yeah, if I had to choose. I simply couldn't. What does Madam Web have?
Starting point is 01:08:39 Does Madam Web have a guy who loves Spider-Man? Not really. This is better than Madam Web. I just want to just so people know. Okay, don't get it twisted. I don't even think this is terrible. Yeah. Just raise your expectations.
Starting point is 01:08:52 I think upon a rewatch, when we inevitably rewatch this, I think you're going to be like, I liked it more than I didn't. Maybe. But I'm never going to rewatch this. That's a shame. That's a shame. I'll have to for something, won't I? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Again, I don't even think it's terrible. I'm just like just like am i not are we all watching the same movie again and again am i the only one who thinks that i think i think what is happening here is here's the opinion of the big ghostbusters fans and he's your opinion and i think they're slowly aligning and one day you'll be like wow i love ghostbusters 7 you you'll say. Which is. Kumail and James Acaster and Patton Oswalt go on a little adventure. Does that include the reboot, Ghostbusters 7? I don't know. Because we're already at five. I don't know how to count.
Starting point is 01:09:32 You know what's interesting? It is wild to me that at the very least Patton Oswalt and Kumail didn't have a scene together. Yeah. They know each other. They know each other. I'm wondering if that's maybe just because they all. I mean, I'm sure it's all because they all filmed on separate days and in different locations and wherever they happen to
Starting point is 01:09:47 be currently you know whatever but it is weird that the two like well i i don't know i guess i like that we had some you know the old snl guys and the old the old school and then like a bunch of new up and coming i thought i feel like i feel like there's there's a lot of potential there and i think we need one more and I like this one enough it's good enough I know I've said that before, good enough anything can be good and Ghostbusters was good
Starting point is 01:10:13 should we move on to the next segment? it's what we're reading what are we going to read? I'm doing the thing what are we reading today? alright All right, we're at the end. Just some stuff was said. Well, I've got to tell people it was a rude Obi-Wan riff and it'll never be released to the public.
Starting point is 01:10:38 It was too rude, if anything. And we didn't record. Oh, we did record on the backup. So it's on the backup. Yeah. So for $100, we'll send you a very bad quality version. Of a riff that only we would like. That's right.
Starting point is 01:10:50 Yeah. All right. This is where we talk about what we've been watching or whatever. That's right. What do you got? We both watched the movie Roadhouse. Roadhouse? The Amazon original movie Roadhouse.
Starting point is 01:10:58 I thought it was all right. It's pretty good, right? Yeah, it's got some. Pretty good, yeah. I think without Jake Gyllenhaal 100% committing to this, I don't think it works as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know we talked about how they're doing the stunts in this now.
Starting point is 01:11:12 They're doing fake punches, which I don't like. Do real punches. Do real punches. Really hurt each other. Yeah. I think it's different enough from the first one as well. It's not the same. Yeah, because we recently semi-rewatched it in that they did a commentary on it,
Starting point is 01:11:24 so we're mostly not paying attention, but we were paying some attention. It's sort of more of a – they've taken some liberties with the character of Dalton, which was Patrick Swayze in the original, and it's Jake Gyllenhaal now. In the original, he was a sort of a PhD, but he also bounced, and he was the world's most famous best bouncer. In this – him being a bouncer, this is his first tryout. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:47 He's an ex-MMA guy who left the industry for reasons. Yep. For good reasons. Yeah, for good reasons. And he's just, he's sort of crossing the country doing a sort of a grift. Yeah. Where he goes, he finds sort of underground fighting tournaments and he just sort of, he sort of, what would you say he does?
Starting point is 01:12:06 He intimidates. He intimidates people into giving up as opposed to fighting him and he just sort of wins by default. Yeah. That kind of thing. Absolutely. So he's a little bit of a. But he seemingly kept his training up.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Yeah, yeah. He's sort of a morally great kind of character and then he's offered a job at. To do a roadhouse. $5,000 a week. What are they turning around in that roadhouse if he's getting five grand a week well think about it long term even if that's the profits from the week and he can't go that bar yeah it's got billy magnuson it's true conor mcgregor yeah that's right this is his first acting role i believe
Starting point is 01:12:38 conor mcgregor and you can tell i mean he's going all out real life bad guy yes but he is he, he's going all out. Real life bad guy, yes. But he's going for it. He's like a GTA character. Yeah, exactly. I liked his sort of – he's got that chaotic energy. It feels like kind of Statham in his first Fast and Furious appearance but kind of a bit more manic. He's a little bit like Statham in Crank probably. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:13:02 He's a combination of various Statham. I was talking to a mutual friend of ours, an Irish mutual friend of ours. Who? I'll tell you later. Sean Bean? Yeah, it was Sean Bean. And he was saying that apparently Conor McGregor's accent is getting more and more stereotypical, like in real life.
Starting point is 01:13:19 I've never heard him speak before, but he's really kind of leaning into this whole vibe to it. Yeah, I think I liked – yeah, we got Billy Magnusson as kind of the – who people would know from No Time to Die and Aladdin and a bunch of other stuff. No Time to Die? Yeah, he is the guy that Felix – it's him and Felix Leiter have like a – Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:39 Yeah. I completely forgot about that. Yeah, he's good. He should be The Flash. Or Guy Gardner. I see that. I see that. Or Guy Gardner. What about American Psycho? We've talked about about that. Yeah, he's good. He should be The Flash. Or Guy Gardner. I see that. I see that. Or Guy Gardner.
Starting point is 01:13:46 What about American Psycho? We've talked about it recently. Oh, he'd be a good American Psycho. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. I'm talking like we have to cast him in a comic book property, though. Oh, then The Flash. Yeah. We'll do another The Flash movie.
Starting point is 01:13:56 We'll just knock one of those out. Please. People will be excited for it. Yeah, I think this movie was pretty solid. It does also feel like a streaming movie. Some people would beg to differ, but I saw some people go, oh, it's going to get a cinema release. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:10 I don't know if it'd do well in a cinema release. I guess it probably feels like a streaming movie because I watched it streaming. Yeah. But I would have gone to see this. Yeah, same. Good crime scenes. Yeah, there is an interesting moment in it, and I guess I knew in my heart of hearts it would not be explored,
Starting point is 01:14:24 but there's a moment after like the 10th massive all-in bar fight brawl where Gyllenhaal's character Dalton says to the owner of the bar, what is wrong with the people in this town? And I'm like, I think, you know, obviously it's just a rough part of town. But like the level at which people go insane at the drop of a hat, I'm like surely at the end they'll be like, yeah there's there's mdmi in the water supply yeah everybody's everybody's been drinking this this lsd infused water and everybody is seeing dragons all the time yeah that's why they they because the brawls are just you turn to the person you're with and punch them
Starting point is 01:14:58 i mean that you know it's intentionally over the top i look uh i like arturo castro as well as one of the henchmen. Is he the guy who – The one who breaks his arm and he's kind of – he's always happy to see. What has he been in recently? Because I've seen him in something recently. He's a sort of a – Is he Mr. Corman?
Starting point is 01:15:18 That was definitely not it. Is he Narcos? He's in The Menu. There you go. He's in The Menu. That might have been where I've seen him recently. Yeah, I like him. I also like him. He's in Broad City. There you go. It was in the menu. That might have been where I've seen him recently. I like him. I also like him.
Starting point is 01:15:26 He's in Broad City, I think, as well. That might be it, yeah. Anyway, I like him. Good stuff. Anyway, Roadhouse, it's free on Amazon Prime. It is free. Completely free. You don't have to pay a single cent for it.
Starting point is 01:15:36 Again, I didn't see any of the bunch of stuff that is out at the cinema currently. No. Well, we'll see you all next week because we're going to see Kong X Kong. Oh, yeah, that's true. Kong X Kong. Kong X Kong. Yeah. He's been in Gor see Kong X Kong. Oh, yeah, that's true. Kong X Kong. Kong X Kong. Yeah. He's been in guerrilla jail and now he's out.
Starting point is 01:15:49 That's cool. I didn't see Love, Life, Bleeding. I was thinking about it, but then I didn't. But then there's other stuff. There's other stuff we've got to see. Also, school holiday's coming up, so that's a nightmare for Cinema Times. Oh. So enjoy that.
Starting point is 01:16:00 I don't think little kids are seeing Love, Life, Bleeding. They might. I'm going to see Kung Fu. The Christian Stewart lesbian bodybuilding heist movie. Of course they are. They are? You think so? It's great.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Apparently it's really good. I've heard it's good. I'm going to see Kung Fu Panda 4 as well. It's not out here because they line that with school holidays. Anyway, shall we do the next segment of the show? It's called Letters. We're going to do it. The classic one was... Letters, oh letters, we love you.
Starting point is 01:16:26 Some letters, they're only a day away. I know they're here right now. We're going to do Letters. Playing that out of my new phone with its beautiful speakers, I've only just heard all the beautiful harmonies in that version. Oh, yeah. It's very good, isn't it? People should hear the actual version,
Starting point is 01:16:44 not the version that you play through your phone. I don't think people should. Okay, you're probably right. Yeah, just listen to it here. Play it through your Dolby Atmos. Okay, that's a good idea. So if you do want to reach the show, you can hashtag weeklyplanetpod on Twitter
Starting point is 01:16:53 or weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. I went to pop up some letters on my phone, but the first thing that came up was this photo of Carl Barron. Why do you have that? Can I have that? I'll send it to you. Can you text it to me? Yeah, I'll text it to you. Just actually, just Can I have that? I'll send it to you. Can you text it to me? Yeah, I'll text it to you.
Starting point is 01:17:05 Just actually, just take a photo of it and then send it to me. Okay. Now, yeah, did I say how you raised the show? Did I do that? You should do it. Do it automatically. You do it automatically. That's great.
Starting point is 01:17:14 Okay, cool. You got a letter? This is from, oh boy, here we go. They're from Ireland and their name is Dara Smith. Dara. Dara. Dara. D-A-R-A-G-H.
Starting point is 01:17:26 I'm going to say Darrah. Sounds like a river. Hi, lads. Just wanted to thank you for all the great laughs and crack you've provided to me for the past two years. We don't do that. It's crack in the Irish tense. C-R-A-I-C.
Starting point is 01:17:38 Oh, no. I meant we don't do that. We do real crack. We've been sending him drugs in the mail. Yes. That's right. Do you remember the Jim Owen film, The Crack? I do. Yeah. Was it good sending him drugs in the mail. Yes. That's right. Do you remember the Jim Owen film, The Crack? I do.
Starting point is 01:17:45 Was it good? Maybe. Probably. Probably. Living in Cavan Island isn't exactly the most exhilarating or hijinks infused and both Caravan and Garbage and the podcast are always highlights of my week. We live in cosmopolitan Hollywood. That's true. With the Australian Grand Prix looming this weekend
Starting point is 01:18:01 in Melbourne, the avid F1 fan in me is gearing up to get up at 4 and 5 a.m. to watch qualifying and the race. I thought this was the optimal time for you boys to discuss your favourite racing film in all cinema, whether it's the Wachowski Speed Racer or James Mangold's Ford vs Ferrari. It'd be interesting to hear your thoughts.
Starting point is 01:18:17 I do like Ford vs Ferrari. I'm going to expand this to also best car chase. No, I'm not. I'm going to bring that right back and say that's not allowed. Wow. Wow, wow, wow. That's not a race so that's not a race it's a car when was the last time you saw speed racer i've never seen it i've got to re-watch
Starting point is 01:18:29 it because i watched it say i don't think i saw it at cinemas i i what or did i god this guy this fucking doesn't remember anything i don't it's gone all my memory's gone no you didn't like it did you yeah no i don't like it yeah i but. But maybe I'm wrong. People love it. There's a million videos on YouTube that are like, actually Speed Racer is good. There's a huge contingent of people on the internet who are like, this is the best racing movie of all time. It's maximalist and it's beautiful and it's a real, it's a love letter to cinema and cinematography and driving a thing
Starting point is 01:19:02 and Scott Wolfe was there. Driving Miss Daisy. Is Scott Wolfe in it? Or do you mean Matthew Fox? Oh, it is Matthew Fox. He's Racer X. He doesn't remember anything. It was somebody in Party of Five.
Starting point is 01:19:13 It wasn't. It wasn't Niamh Campbell because she's in Screamer. It wasn't Jennifer Love Hewitt. It wasn't. Scott Wolfe, as mentioned. It was not Scott Wolfe. And whoever else. Yep.
Starting point is 01:19:20 Who's the fifth? The young lady? Lacey Chabert. Lacey Chabert. Chabert. Chabert. Lacey Chabert. Chabert. Chabert. Lacey Chabert. Yeah, man. Anyway, best racing movie. There's a movie called Rush, which was directed by Ron Howard.
Starting point is 01:19:31 Oh, yes. I like that one. I guess we're talking car chase movies. Drive. Drive. There is some car chases in that thing. Thank you. I mean, I would say. Thank you, I said. Okay. I would say the opening chase sequence in that is really interesting because it's entirely from the perspective of inside the car.
Starting point is 01:19:48 Oh, I don't like that. I want to pretend I'm driving the car from the outside like a video game. Oh, terrific. One of the best car chase movies is The Blues Brothers, of course, which is all car chases, but especially the scene where they go through a mall. Yeah, that's good. Because they had to destroy a mall. That's true.
Starting point is 01:20:03 They had to build and destroy a mall. They wouldn't do that now. Mad Max, that's a car Because they had to destroy a mall. That's true. They had to build and destroy a mall. They wouldn't do that now. Mad Max, that's a car race film. That's a car race film. What about any of the Fast and Furious, I guess? You like the movie Need for Speed from 2013. No, I don't. I've seen five minutes of it and it was so boring.
Starting point is 01:20:16 But maybe it's a speed racer style thing. Maybe people are like, this is incredible and actually a beautiful, beautiful. Talladega Nights. That one. Ford versus Ferrari. The Cars trilogy. Yep.
Starting point is 01:20:27 These are all good. They should do the Ferrari movie, but in the Cars universe. I saw Ferrari. Uh-huh. What did you think? I didn't mind it. Okay. How's Penelope Cruz in that movie?
Starting point is 01:20:37 She's all right. That's great. What else? I saw Gran Turismo last year. Oh, yes. In D-Box. I used to say Ghostbusters in D-Box. It cost me $31 for a chair that shook that I turned off because I hate it.
Starting point is 01:20:50 Now, as I understand it, it shook every time there was a joke? Is that? Yeah, so never. Yes, but it'll be shaking now because we did a joke. Yes. Bullet, there you go, Mason. It's one of your plays. Bullet's a very good car chase.
Starting point is 01:21:03 Ford versus Ferrari. You've got to see it on the big, big screen The Farlap movie, about a horse Sure It's a good movie Herbie Goes to Whatever Didn't, didn't, yeah he did What does that mean?
Starting point is 01:21:14 Yeah he did This guy Steve McQueen did a Le Mans movie or whatever He did, he did Le Mans Yeah Cool All good movies So yeah, good racing movies
Starting point is 01:21:24 I agree There's probably others but who's got the time alright I've got one here from Girl in the Reflection yep she says
Starting point is 01:21:32 hashtag weekly punner pod I'm a big Sam Rockwell fan from way back to Guy Fliegman in Galaxy Quest great movie if you were to cast him as someone else
Starting point is 01:21:39 in the MCU who would it be what about the DCU any roles you think he'd fit especially well yes more dog time please we don't control dog time. No, that's true. It's not mandated.
Starting point is 01:21:47 Currently we've got Ollie in the front room there and she is not interested in currently dog time. She's only interested in when we get excited about the jokes in Ghostbusters. Correct, which is never. So, was that already a joke? Did I over-explain your joke? Yeah, but
Starting point is 01:22:03 that's jokes. That normally attracts Ollie when one of us over- your joke yeah but that's that's jokes that normally attracts ollie when one of us over explains the other guy's joke yeah yeah i'm just gonna go dcu so sam rockwell he's want something out of left field what about commissioner gordon sam rockwell that's pretty good what about the sports reporter guy in superman but i think he's already been cast as a sports reporter yeah the sports guy who writes the daily planet it's like a muscly kind of jock guy who works with Superman. Are you thinking of Bulldog from the sitcom Frasier? It's kind of like that but not.
Starting point is 01:22:31 Okay, sure. There's a dude like that in Superman. Is there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, great. I love that. What about this? Well, now all is going nuts.
Starting point is 01:22:37 Yeah, I know. Because we mentioned Bulldog from the movie Frasier. Yeah. The TV series Frasier. That's right. Not the movie version of Frasier. And I put also, because I already wrote this prior, and I mentioned this one earlier, but Ted Kord or Blue Beetle?
Starting point is 01:22:48 Ted Kord, who is Blue Beetle. No, or, sorry. Booster Gold? Booster Gold. Booster Gold. Yeah, okay, yeah. Yeah, because, I mean, what's he got? He's got rhythm.
Starting point is 01:22:57 Yep. He's funny. He can dance. He can fight. He can fight. He can be kind of schlubby. Yep. He can be on the moon.
Starting point is 01:23:04 So fat Batman. Yeah. Fat, out of shape Batman. Love that. Yeah. He could be on the moon. I agree. He can be kind of schlubby. Yep. He can be on the moon. So fat Batman. Yeah. Fat, out of shape Batman. Love that. Yeah. He could be on the moon. I agree. He would be a good Joker.
Starting point is 01:23:10 Yes. I think I see where you're going with that. I reckon. Widow's peak big smile. There is definitely a Batman villain in him, I think. Yeah. But what is it? Scarecrow.
Starting point is 01:23:22 No. Bane? No. Brewster's Millions. No. As what is it? Scarecrow. No. Bane? No. Brewster's Millions. No. As in Bruce Wayne's Millions. No. He's got to be like.
Starting point is 01:23:32 Penguin. No. Riddler. No. Catman. Yeah, maybe because there's a version of Catman where he's like depressed. Okay. Maybe depressed Catman.
Starting point is 01:23:43 Because there's like a version where he's all sad and then he turns his life around. So we don't want to see that bit. Okay. We want to see him where he's like depressed. Okay. Maybe depressed cat man. Great. Because there's like a version where he's all sad and then he turns his life around. So we don't want to see that bit. Okay. We want to see him where he's sad. Sad cat man. Okay, there it is. Done.
Starting point is 01:23:51 Nice. Here's an email from Dustin. Dustin. I was listening to the podcast while riding a bus from the city. Oh, must be nice. We almost hit that bridge in Footscray that always gets hit by buses and trucks. Love that bridge. Like 10 times a year, the Montague Street Bridge.
Starting point is 01:24:03 Yeah, man. We came to a sudden stop, which was good. Everyone on the bus was okay, and me and the person next to me had a good laugh about it. Why was the bus even going that way? I don't know. Shouldn't they have done a route and not go that way? Maybe they hired the bus to crash into the bridge.
Starting point is 01:24:16 Yeah, maybe they did. But I just saw Ghostbusters Frozen Empire, so I'd be sad if that was the last movie I saw before dying in a horrible bus crash. Yeah, that's true. Love the show. Keep up the good work. Thank you, Dustin. We'll always keep up the good work. That's true. a horrible bus crash. Yeah, that's true. Love the show. Keep up the good work. Thank you, Dustin.
Starting point is 01:24:26 We'll always keep up the good work. That's true. And that bus needs to get it together. Yeah. Yeah. For people who don't know, there's a bridge in Melbourne called the Montague Street Bridge. It's too low.
Starting point is 01:24:35 It's on Montague Street. It's too low. It's the correct height, but it's got a million signs leading up to it that say there's a height restriction. You will crash into this bridge. Please don't. If you're higher than this, you can't do it height restriction, you will crash into this bridge. Please don't. If you're higher than this, you can't do it. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:48 But people do it. And there's so many warnings. There's so many ways to turn off as well. Yep. And people are just like, nah, I got this. Yeah. By that I mean they don't read any of the signs because they don't think they apply to them.
Starting point is 01:24:57 No, and they don't. Yep. This is from Dan M who says, hashtag weekly planet pod, waited patiently for Jumanji Welcome to the Jungle to appear on the list, but by the time I got to number four, I realized it wasn't there. So this last week we talked about legacy sequels. If it's all the criteria, a lot of fun, and probably worth four Meso thumbs up at least.
Starting point is 01:25:14 Yeah, there's a few that weren't on there. Mad Max Fury Road wasn't on there. I was going to add to what Joshua's emailed in. I said I'm listening to the episode this week. Couldn't believe the list of legacy sequels left on Mad Max Fury Road. I just want to point out as well, I know people think I don't do research, which isn't true. I actually intentionally,
Starting point is 01:25:26 I went through a lot of lists and that was the one that I thought. You didn't believe that that was a good sequel? No, that I thought 100, this is a ridiculous list. And 50% of these aren't real movies. Joshua said, would you put it higher up than Top Gun Maverick? Yes.
Starting point is 01:25:42 Interesting. I think it's a better film than Top Gun Maverick. Is it a better legacy sequel? I don't know. It's not really a legacy sequel, even though it is set. I mean, it's made. Oh, interesting. Okay, sure, sure, sure.
Starting point is 01:25:52 It came out like 20 or 30 years after the previous one. What do you think? Ooh. I mean, I think it's certainly the best of the Mad Max movies. Agreed. And it's a tough call because they're both Maverick and Fury Road are lightning in a bottle kind of sequels where I'm like, there's no way I'd be interested in seeing that.
Starting point is 01:26:13 There's no way it's going to be good. And they both were. Yeah. And that's shocking to me. Yeah. If you had to put one on right now, what would you watch? Fury... Fury Maverick.
Starting point is 01:26:24 Fury Maverick. We've got some of Fury Road and then some of Maverick. I'd watch a Maverick. Few Maverick. We'd watch some of Fury Road and then some of Maverick. I'd watch a minute at a time. I would 100% watch Fury Road any day of a Maverick. I think today I would watch Maverick. Yep. Tomorrow's another day, isn't it? Tomorrow's Maverick Day, actually.
Starting point is 01:26:37 Oh, damn it. I guess I'd watch Maverick today, then Maverick tomorrow, and then Fury Road. That's a great idea. And then Ghostbusters Frozen Empire. Yeah? Would you pay $31 for a seat that shakes? No.
Starting point is 01:26:48 I paid $10 because I had some village funds. Initially because I have a Hoyts membership. Sure, sure, sure. The ticket was $1. Whoa. But I had to push it back to a later session and the only session was in D-Box. $30 more. And I couldn't use any of my points.
Starting point is 01:27:00 So it was like it's $31 for this. Yeah. So you paid $32? Yeah. Because I had to. Wow. Because I like to tip. Must be nice, it's $31 for this. Yeah. So you paid $32? Yeah. Because I had to. Wow. Because I like to tip. Must be nice.
Starting point is 01:27:08 It is. It's nice. Yeah. I wish I had that dollar though. One more email. This is from Ashton. Ashton? And I'm sorry to say it's another car crash related email.
Starting point is 01:27:16 Oh my God. Hope this email finds you well. Today I was rear-ended and sent in another vehicle. This is my first car accident and the car might be totaled. To calm my nerves, when I got home, I put on the episode about Dune Part 2. Oh, my God. I'm glad you're okay. Yeah, me too.
Starting point is 01:27:32 I've decided to undertake watching the Dune movies and perhaps even reading the books. Don't do it. Undertake watching the Dune movies. So that includes the 1980s one, right? Exactly. Have we watched that? Should we watch that?
Starting point is 01:27:42 I think we will by the time the next Dune comes around. We'll check it out. Dune 84 Dune. Dune 84 Dune, yeah. And it's one movie as opposed to two movies. And it's so true. Yeah. Thank you both for providing some laughs off an intense day.
Starting point is 01:27:58 God, again, that's lucky that you're not dead and you got to watch Dune. That's so true. That's the best of all possible worlds, I think. Completely agree. I mean, minus the getting rear-ended it's bad that's bad that is bad news cool i've got one more tweet here and it says i'm just gonna bring up the rest of it oh there's a trailer for the penguin yep looks good let's watch it now looks good it does look good yeah and he's like I remember a guy and now I'm a guy.
Starting point is 01:28:25 But I'm flippery. He is flippery, isn't he? Were you a little disappointed we didn't get anything like a novelty umbrella? No, we're going to get all of that. It's going to be novelty umbrellas all day. Great. Novelty umbrellas out the wazoo. Woo!
Starting point is 01:28:39 In and out the wazoo. That's right. Great. So I'm going to tweet here. I meant to bring this up last week. I'm listening. It says, this is from Chief Mackenzie Bock, who says, Dwayne Johnson being contractually obligated to never lose a fight
Starting point is 01:28:52 makes this clip so much funnier because he can't handle it. This is the. Now, if Collings could put this in. This is a clip. It's Amelia de Moldenberg who did the chicken shop date. She does the chicken shop date videos. Very funny. Yep.
Starting point is 01:29:03 And she is on the red carpet with The Rock and she's doing rock, paper, scissors with him. And? She defeats him and he gets mad about it. Yeah. Now either he's acting very well. And he's containing his rage. I guess he assumed that she would let him win.
Starting point is 01:29:21 Yeah. Or something. Or he would win. And I don't know. It's just very funny. It really throws him. Or he would win. And I don't know. It's just very funny. It really throws him. I can't find the thing because I want to send it to Collings
Starting point is 01:29:30 to put it in. Anyway, Collings, put it in or don't. People can find it. Can we do rock, paper, scissors? Yes. Rock, paper, scissors. I won. Well, no.
Starting point is 01:29:39 See, it's supposed to be rock, paper, scissors, go. Oh, what? This is cheating. What kind of bullshit is this? No, sorry. I just think I won. You just cheated.
Starting point is 01:29:48 No, I think I just won. Would you want to do it again? Want to do it again? Okay. Rock, Paper, Scissors, Shoot. Damn. I think my one was the British way, and it's a lot better. At first, I thought that you were just only doing rock.
Starting point is 01:29:58 It's usually what I do. But since you cheated, then I recognize your game right away. Well. Stop cheating at that game. Sorry. Yeah, she's fun on the red carpet. She is, yeah. I think we've talked about this, but I see some of those interviews. I'm like, I don't. Stop cheating at that game. Sorry. Yeah, she's fun on the red carpet. She is, yeah. I think we've talked about this, but I see some of those interviews.
Starting point is 01:30:08 I'm like, I don't know who this British rapper is. Yeah, yeah. But I've watched a few because you click on the one you know, and then it goes through to the next couple. Oh, you've got autoplay on, do you? Sometimes I do. That's be nice. Sometimes I do.
Starting point is 01:30:19 That's right. I paid $100 for autoplay. All right. Is that the show? That is the whole show. Thank you so much, folks, for autoplay. All right. Is that the show? That is the whole show. Thank you so much, folks, for listening. We appreciate it. I was surprised Owen Wilson's appearance at the end.
Starting point is 01:30:31 Are you? Surprised by that? Do you think he should be in maybe Ghostbusters, next one? No. Next Ghostbusters? No, he doesn't have to do that. Interesting. Do you think he should?
Starting point is 01:30:39 I'd welcome him. Nobody should ever be in those movies. I'd welcome him with open goopy arms. Fair enough. It feels like the Slimer bit. I mean, obviously it was meant to be. The one bit I like has been Slimer ate the pizza. I was going to say, I think if they'd had more time in the movie,
Starting point is 01:30:56 I feel like everybody goes on a ghostbusting adventure and there's a big thing, but the B plot is Finn Wolfhard has to stop Slimer in the ghost house. Yeah, absolutely. It would be good, I think. Folks, thank you so much for listening. We absolutely appreciate it. Thank you for telling your friends about the podcast
Starting point is 01:31:11 because that is how we get new listeners. Eventually we're going to run out of – are we going to run out of – No, we're going to because people are always having babies. Oh, that's so true, yeah. So you're bringing them in. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you think?
Starting point is 01:31:22 I think that's cool. Yeah, me too. And thank you for leaving a five-star review on your podcast, Catcher of Choice. You can almost certainly do it in-app, and James will read out one of those reviews, or two of those reviews even. I'm actually going to read out two. This one is from Rufio1617. Rufio from Peter Pan?
Starting point is 01:31:38 Yes. He says that these guys know Snake Eyes. Next week, by the way. Yeah. James and Mace are those kinds of guys who make you feel like you've known them since forever. Every week I look forward to this podcast and it really helps jumpstart my week. I love that.
Starting point is 01:31:50 Just like a car. That's me saying that. Just in case people don't understand the context of that. Some people don't. Some people are dumber than me. Not a lot of people, but some are. This one's from Neil Graham who says, very good podcast.
Starting point is 01:32:01 My Monday morning commute has been listening to this for years. No complaints. I'm sure you can find something. Yeah. I mean, even I found something to complain about of new Ghostbusters. That's true. I really had to. Dig deep.
Starting point is 01:32:13 Dig deep, yeah. And I discovered something about myself. It's that you. Hate Ghostbusters. Well, you're mad about anything you have to pay $31 for. That wasn't the reason. I'd be mad too, actually. That's not the reason why I didn't like it. No piece of entertainment's worth
Starting point is 01:32:26 more than $30. I only remember that later. I didn't remember. I'd have forgotten because I turned the rumble off. You knew in your heart. I didn't know, Mason. I don't know anything in my heart. There's no truths there. Okay, what's next? Folks, if you want to get into contact with us, you can go to weeklyplanetpod at gmail.com. Keep them pithy.
Starting point is 01:32:42 Yeah, keep them short and pithy. You've got a way more chance of getting an email ony. You've got a way more chance of getting an email on here. You've got a way more chance. Also, if you just want to ask a yes or no question, I think that would save us a lot of time, honestly. So we don't have to think of anything. You can even put it in the description only. That's true. Or you can even give us our
Starting point is 01:32:58 opinions, honestly. We'd be happy to. You can be, do you like this yes or no? I think yes. I think yes, and we'd be like, good call. We would like that actually. We're easily influenced. Because by the time of the letters segment, God, we're tired. We're so tired. We did stuff before.
Starting point is 01:33:10 We want to lie down. We want to crawl into a sewer and go to sleep. Exactly. You can go to the Planet Broadcasting Great Mates Facebook group and the weekly Planet podcast subreddit and Discord. We have fun civil chats about podcasts and pop culture. Thank you to Fidel and Maisie and Sarabi for moderating those forums and doing TikToks and clips channels and videos and all sorts of stuff.
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Starting point is 01:34:16 Doctor Who's coming back. Oh, that's right. I did see that. Looked good. Yeah, looked good. Big budget. Big budget. Huge numbers.
Starting point is 01:34:20 Huge, big numbers. Big numbers. Let's see. There's t-shirts on tpublic.com. Thank you to the Brute and the Bassist for all our musical themes. Brute and the Bassist can rack them for all our musical themes. James is doing a dab. Nope.
Starting point is 01:34:33 Updates. Folks, if you're wondering, we emailed the guy about he wants to buy the Mr. Sunday Movies channel. No response yet. Didn't hear back from him. We just want a number. I didn't feel like that wasn't even a serious offer from him. We just want a number.
Starting point is 01:34:43 Just want a number. Just a number, man. Just a number. Give me a goddamn number. I didn't feel like that wasn't even a serious offer from him. We just want a number. Just want a number. Give me a number, man. Just a number. Give me a goddamn number. All right. Next week, Godzilla X-Con. Oh, yeah. It's bro time.
Starting point is 01:34:51 It's bro time, everybody. That's right. So looking forward to that. All right. Thanks, everyone. Grab that gem, you guys. We'll see you next week. Goodbye.
Starting point is 01:34:57 For more bro time. Does that just indicate this whole? It's Ghostbusters. Oh, I thought you were saying the whole podcast was just a sad time. It's a... It's Ghostbusters. Oh, I thought you were saying the whole podcast was just a sad time. It was a great podcast, Ghostbusters. Right. As women, our life stages come with unique risk factors, like high blood pressure developed during pregnancy,
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Starting point is 01:35:42 before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+. The other, a mission to reveal it before thousands of lives are lost. FX's The Veil, starring Elizabeth Moss, is now streaming on Disney+.

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