The Weekly Planet - 64 Best Christmas Everything Or Whatever

Episode Date: December 22, 2014

In addition to covering the Sony hack, news of Transformers 5, Uncharted, Pirate, Bond and more we discuss all our favourite Christmas movies, comics and tv shows. And we didn’t miss a single one. H...osted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Weekly Planet, official podcast of comicbookmovie.com. My name is James, editor of that website. With me as always, my co-host, Nick Mason. The Weekly Planet Podcast, pa-ruh-pa-pum-pum. With James and Mason, your hosts, pa-ruh-pa-pum-pum With James and Mason Your hosts Pa-ra-pa-pum-pum Red hot comic book movie news
Starting point is 00:00:32 Pa-ra-pa-pum-pum Ra-pa-pum-pum Ra-pa-pum-pum In your bum It's Christmas, James Boy, is it Yes Great song
Starting point is 00:00:42 Isn't it though You know I have beef with the little drummer boy. With the idea of the song. Yes. Once again, famously, you have a lot of beefs on this show, mostly against your high school bullies, but this time it's a musical. Yes. Sing.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Exactly. Okay, great. I'll put something that probably didn't happen. Sure. Okay, so this boy, this drummer boy, whose job is to be a drummer, I guess. He's like the Flea from whatever era that, from 2000 years ago. Is Flea the drummer? Flea played bass.
Starting point is 00:01:10 He did too, sorry. Isn't bass and drums, they're similar, aren't they? No. Okay, so he doesn't have a gift. So his gift is, I'm just going to bang this drum near this newborn baby. Babies love that. Babies love to be disturbed. Parents certainly love that.
Starting point is 00:01:24 Absolutely. Fantastic. Merry Christmas love that. Babies love to be disturbed. Parents certainly love that. Absolutely. Fantastic. Merry Christmas, everyone. Absolutely. Alright. Now let's not talk about Christmas again. Except for the rest of the episode. Yes. So, look, let's get straight to the news then. Mark Wahlberg, famous actor. You've seen
Starting point is 00:01:40 him in things. You've seen his biceps. Yes, absolutely. Big as a man's head. He says he'll be back for Transformers 5. He's contracted in. He's got a couple more in things. You've seen his biceps. Yes, absolutely. Big as a man's head. Uh-huh. He says he'll be back for Transformers 5. He's contracted in. He's got a couple more in him. And he says he expects to be on set soon. But Michael Bay possibly not so much because I think he said he might not be doing it. Unless he wins the Oscar. Unless he
Starting point is 00:01:55 wins that sweet Oscar. So, yeah. Is Mark Wahlberg... Is anybody going for Wahlberg? Like, yeah, you know what? Yeah, I think he's not a good movie, Transformers 4, but he was okay, right? Yeah, fine. So, I don't know. I'm trying to make these inventions, but the inventions...
Starting point is 00:02:13 I don't wish I was better at inventions. This robot dog is... I fight for my family with my inventions. I wish people could see this. Don't sleep with my daughter, she's underage. Oh, you got a card? That's all right then. Creepy.
Starting point is 00:02:27 So, yeah. But on top of that, he's also the, they say, still the front runner to play Nathan Drake. Oh, yeah. Take that, Nathan Fillion fans who want Nathan Fillion. Look, the original Uncharted script that was going to get done was a big departure from the video games. And people didn't like that. But I think people didn't mind Mark Wahlberg as Nathan Drake. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:02:49 You could give it to a Bradley Cooper or a Chris Pratt or a Mark Wahlberg or a Nathan Fillion or a Nathan Drake. Any of those guys could play Nathan Drake. I think there's going to be thousands of people who are unhappy and hundreds of thousands of people who are unhappy with any choice. Yes. And hundreds of thousands of people, probably millions with any choice that's made there. And hundreds of thousands of people, probably millions who don't know what Uncharted is.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Yeah, that's true. Or care. Yeah. Be like, oh, he's running, he's got guns, he's hanging off the thing. All right, I'm on board. Are they robots? No? All right, still. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:17 All right. He's an American hero. All right. Yeah, exactly. Does he have a daughter that's underage? All right, I'm back in. I was going to say were you going to say
Starting point is 00:03:27 because when you said Mark Wahlberg news I thought you were going to say this news that Mark Wahlberg is petitioning to be pardoned for that time he was racist towards that Vietnamese man and beat him up or whatever it was apparently he didn't blind him so he is an American hero that guy was already blind
Starting point is 00:03:43 he just beat him in but that guy was already blind. So he is an American hero. That guy was already blind. He just beat him in the head. I mean, yeah. I guess he's sorry. Great. But he also said that he would have stopped 9-11 that time. He did say that, didn't he? So who's to say? He's not to be trusted.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Yeah. I mean, based on his words alone, he sounds like a hero. Yes, he does. A real American hero, but all right. I remember what I was going to say now. Okay, ready. Every video game... Can I top Mark Wahlberg's a weird every video puncher every video game movie that's gonna come out pretty much every one of them like this isn't gonna do well like the
Starting point is 00:04:14 resident evil's movies do okay but you never like these are gonna light the world on fire no and again we've talked about the resident evil movies they only i only ever go see them because i've been tricked by the last one. We talked about this. There's one scene in each one where you remember it fondly. Let's go through them. No, it doesn't matter. The first one, we're doing this. Kicking the dog.
Starting point is 00:04:33 She kicks the dog. Scissor kicks a rubber dog. Okay. Second one, I don't really remember as well. It was in a city. There was the big guy. He had a rocket launcher. He had a rocket launcher.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Third one was the desert. Yep. And the crows bit with all the crows. Oh, yep. Sure. Maybe. She has the psychic powers. She blasts everything.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Yeah. Remember that? Okay. That's actually not... I don't mind that movie. And the fourth one is the bit where the plane mashes the zombies. As it lands and it just chews them up with a propeller. And the fifth one is just where it descends into insanity.
Starting point is 00:05:01 I didn't see the fifth one. He just... Oh, where they clone everybody and everybody's back. It's completely invulnerable and they kick his head off and it comes back on like they fight in a boat at the end and it's i think that's five yeah that's four no look i don't know the point is now there's a newer one where they that you know for some reason the umbrella corporation is still a corporation and they make like a replica of tokyo and then make clones of all the original resident evil actors who are dead like michelle rodriguez and just put them in there
Starting point is 00:05:30 and just watch the outbreak but i missed one you've missed one but we've yeah we both missed one huh well now now we know what we're doing christmas morning oh yes we exchange gifts of resident evil 5 on blu-ray and then we sit down and we watch it with some nog. Yeah, but I would say there's less, there's more money in cloning and building replica cities than there is in a virus. Yeah, definitely. That turns everyone into weird face-splitting monsters. Anyway. But, you know, work to your strengths.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Yes. That's what I say. Anyway, you were saying, video game movies. Every time, yeah. Like, even Prince of Persia, I'm like, this isn't going to do well. Like, they think it's the next bloody Pirates of the Caribbean but it's not gonna do it and it didn't but this one i'm like this could work this could be the one yeah to break through anyway pirates of the caribbean you're saying do you have pirates i do actually yeah uh orlando bloom says that they're gonna they're making another one the pirates five which i think we already knew but he's not entirely sure
Starting point is 00:06:23 if he'll be back yet. There are talks. Basically, they want to reboot the whole franchise, I think, and do something with me and the relationship with my son. Because if you remember the... Nobody wants to do that. They want an exact replica of Jack Sparrow, but not Jack Sparrow. Yes. Assuming Johnny Depp isn't coming back.
Starting point is 00:06:39 He's coming back. Oh, then they don't want... Whatever you said, Orlando Bloom, they don't want that because nobody cares. People just want Jack Sparrow going, ooh, and running on a big wheel. Don't you remember? Ooh, what's going on? Don't you remember, though, at the end
Starting point is 00:06:54 of Pirates of the Caribbean 3, he became Davy Jones and he lived at the bottom of the ocean in a ship? Oh, yeah, and he got to visit his wife every decade or whatever it was. Yeah. Yeah, nobody wants that. Sounds boring. It's ten years of sadness. Yeah, but also, that's not a boring. It's 10 years of sadness. Yeah, but also, that's not a reboot. It's not a reboot, is it?
Starting point is 00:07:09 That's a continuation of the franchise. Yeah, he's right. We're right. We're right. He's wrong. He's very wrong, isn't he? In your face, Bloom. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Do you think people hate Orlando Bloom? Think they're indifferent toward Orlando Bloom? Yeah. What about these Hobbit films? People say that this is an okay Hobbit film. Have they found him endearing in these films? No. They say he's... Generally, they're like, it's weird that he's in it.
Starting point is 00:07:30 That's the general consensus. Yeah. But, you know. What else? More news. Oh, I have some news. No, you don't. But I want to do news.
Starting point is 00:07:39 I want to be part of it. You're probably going to say this next anyway. We'll see. Leaked Sony emails. They're just going. Some Sony executives wanted Idris Elba to be the of it. You're probably going to say this next anyway. We'll see. Leaked Sony emails. They're just going. Some Sony executives wanted Idris Elba to be the next Bond. Yeah, that's pretty sweet. You can't be bloody saying it for years, mate.
Starting point is 00:07:51 You have been saying that, but at the same time, you never said it on this show, so it doesn't count. I reckon I probably have. Somebody go back. I'm not going to. I reckon I have. Yeah. Okay, how about this though? He's 42.
Starting point is 00:08:03 I looked into this, right? How old's Daniel Craig? Daniel Craig is in human years or potato years? Yeah, potato years. He looks like a potato. Russet years. Brown russet years. No, he's about that.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Yeah. Okay. So Craig's got this one coming out this year. Yep. And then he's got another one on this contract. Uh-huh. Right. So that would mean Idris Elba would be probably 46 by the time he gets it.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Okay. And then, so he'll probably do it 46 to 55 maybe. Yeah, okay. Is he, is that too old for a Bond? No, Roger Moore did it. Yeah. But he looked, he definitely looked his age. No, he really did.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And I, like, there's a lot of fun in those movies. There's a lot of terribleness. Yep. But like by the last one, my God. He was just. He looked like a.
Starting point is 00:08:42 Staggering around. Yeah. Yeah. He really did. You're right yeah but i mean if you said it yourself was 46 now yeah like he i i reckon he's gonna look the same what if i said he was 32 what if i tricked you then oh he's not but imagine that oh yeah you know yeah look i think he's already like it's amazing you the comments straight away are just
Starting point is 00:09:03 flat out racism like immediately yeah yeah yeah yeah but i think he's a great choice it will it It's amazing. The comments straight away are just flat-out racism. Yeah, immediately. Like, immediately. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But I think it's a great choice. It will... It would...
Starting point is 00:09:10 It would be interesting to see how they go... Like, speaking of racism... Yeah. Will the films be racist? Yes. No, but, like... Because people will be like, oh, you can't make him born black because he's not...
Starting point is 00:09:21 He's a white British guy or whatever. Right, which you can. You obviously can. But it'll be interesting how the dynamic's going to change. Okay. Like, none of the films specifically refer to Bond as being white, except maybe Live and Let Die. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Oh, that's right. Which is probably called a honky. Yeah, that's right. But, like, is the fact that he's black going to affect his interactions with the other characters? Okay. Like, would people, you know, because are you going to go, well, Bond exists in this universe where he's just Bond? Like, he's just a secret agent in the world and he does secret agent stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Or is he going to exist in a world where he's a secret agent and he's black and people react to that? Oh, okay. Like, if he goes, like, are people going to be racist towards him in certain places? Yeah, yeah. Like, if he goes to a different, you know, location where, you know, where the minorities are put, looked down upon or whatever, is he going to be, or are they just going to ignore it? I think they're too, I think they just ignore it.
Starting point is 00:10:13 I don't think that have the kind, I don't think that have the subtlety to kind of. Yeah, I guess so. Like, remembering. Or maybe more so now, like the Brosnan here, if they did it, like he'd probably like someone would throw him keys and thinking he's the ballet guy or whatever yeah absolutely yeah but yeah they'd probably handle it a lot better now I don't yeah probably yeah like and there's a scene like in Casino Royale where there's like uh like it there's that bit where they whip his nuts with the rope oh yeah that's exactly the only thing I'm thinking of now there's a scene where there's like uh like he's looking
Starting point is 00:10:42 for the bomb maker in the yeah and then you know and he's he clearly stands out because he's like like he's looking for the bomb maker in the and you know and he clearly stands out because he's like the one white guy in the hole like he'd blend in in that situation or would he kind of
Starting point is 00:10:51 yeah good point okay anyway we're just speculating we are speculate we are speculate that should be the name of the movie
Starting point is 00:10:57 speculate oh speculator so yeah but in other leaked Sony news we've got to talk about the interview being cancelled. Actually, Curious Topa, at Curious Topa on Twitter,
Starting point is 00:11:09 wants to know my thoughts on the interview being cancelled. We talked about... Well, give him your thoughts. Don't waste time. Don't lollygag about. It's bloody Christmas. We've got stuff to do. That's it.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Yeah, so basically, for those who don't know, the interview was a movie where Seth Rogen and James Franco play characters who go to North Korea to interview Kim Jong-un. But then they're kind of recruited by the CIA to assassinate him. And it's kind of like a buddy kind of comedy, but it's also this kind of spy action. Kind of like the movie I Spy with Eddie Murphy and Orne Wilson. But I had to pick something. What about classic Australian film Let's
Starting point is 00:11:45 Get Skace? Where some people have to go and retrieve They have to get Skace. They have to get Christopher Skace tax exile from whatever, Mallorca, wherever he lived. Now dead. He's dead. He did die. Yeah. I've never seen that. Because they got him. Yeah, they did.
Starting point is 00:12:01 It wouldn't have been good, no. Some good cast in it. Lockie Hume's in it. Yeah. And he's good. that lucky hume's in it yeah and he's good anyway anyway the interview sorry that's a weird fool let's get scase um yeah what do you what we read and i'm calling it this week everybody watch let's get scase no don't do that you won't even be able to find it no so yeah so basically in light of all the the sony hacking which the fbi revealed that this was north k North Korea who did the hack. Yep. People had their doubts, including us, no doubt.
Starting point is 00:12:28 No, I said it was definitely North Korea. Okay, good. Then, basically, to stop things from continually being leaked, they've cancelled the movie. And also, apparently, there were some threats to, like some hackers said, we will blow up theatres if you show this kind of thing. Yeah, yeah. But they've also talked about possibly releasing it online, like maybe through Crackle or something. Like it'll still find a platform.
Starting point is 00:12:53 But that's still releasing it, so it remains to be seen. That just changes it from we will blow up theaters to we will blow up Sony headquarters, surely. Right? Because they're the culprits kind of thing. Yeah, yeah. So now, what do you think, though? headquarters, surely, right? Because they're the culprits kind of thing. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So now, what do you think, though? Well, look, you know, it's a shame that it'll never get released
Starting point is 00:13:12 and it'll only ever exist on Sony's, you know, uncrackable servers. You know, they'll just have to sit it on their server and nobody will ever be able to get to it because you can't get through Sony's incredible firewall. That's right. Yeah, yeah. Good point. Were you interested in seeing this?
Starting point is 00:13:28 Not especially. No. It feels a bit Borat to me. Okay, sure. Yeah, yeah. But you like Borat. Or The Dictator or whatever. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Borat's a comedy that you love, though. I've never seen it. Really? Yeah. So that's... You should watch it. Maybe I love it. Okay, what we read in this week.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Let's get scace. Borat. Bruno. Bruno we read in this week. Let's get scace. Borat. Bruno. Bruno. Just to be sure. Yeah, I guess it's one of those things. I'm interested to see it, I guess, but I probably wouldn't have gone to the cinema. Yeah, it's probably... I mean, I don't think it's going to be, you know, a crushing satire of, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:01 North Korea's horrible human rights policies or whatever. Yeah, yeah. It's just going to be, hey, look at this wacky stuff. Wackiness, exactly. How wacky is North Korea? Look at all the wacky propaganda or whatever. Yeah. That one looks like a dick, you know?
Starting point is 00:14:12 It'll be that, right? Yeah, exactly. Like, I don't think I saw the last one, the end of the world one at the cinema. And I didn't see, what was the one before that they did? I can't remember. Pineapple Express. No, it wasn't one before.
Starting point is 00:14:24 But I like them, but I don't go out and see them. I'm like, I can wait for this. So, I don't care, to be honest. Yeah, that's fine. What do you think about negotiating with terrorism, Mason? Oh, well, Obama said don't do it. He did. Obama said you're weak, Sony.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Yeah, yeah. You're real weak. You're weak dogs. That's what you are. Yeah, I guess he makes a good point. But we make a point never to get political on this show. Unless we're really ill-informed. I thought you were going to But we make a point never to get political on this show. Unless we're really ill-informed. I thought you were going to say we make a point never to negotiate with terrorists.
Starting point is 00:14:49 No, I would definitely negotiate. I'm a coward. If you got some cool stuff out of it, maybe. Definitely. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I guess all the stuff, the other stuff that we're going to leak won't be coming out. But in addition to that, there was a whole bunch of Spider-Man leaks as well.
Starting point is 00:15:05 We did it all last week. It's just the same stuff. won't be coming out but not in addition to that there was a whole bunch of Spider-Man leaks as well that I just we did it all last week it's just the same stuff it's just like negotiations and percentages and who gets what share and who might
Starting point is 00:15:13 the director be and the guy who I think it was the guy who um is directing Doctor Strange I was talking about doing it maybe in 2099 and
Starting point is 00:15:21 recasting and I don't know anyway we'll talk we might talk about that in a bit because we've got to listen to an email about that. Oh, yes. So, yeah, we'll get to that.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Do you know Suicide Squad, the movie? I am familiar with it, yes. When we talked about Amanda Waller and how Oprah was possibly up for the role. Oh, yes. Oscar-winning female actor Viola Davis is said to be up for the role. Who is that?
Starting point is 00:15:42 I will show you a photo. Okay. Her. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Okay, cool. She's in stuff Who is that? I will show you a photo. Okay. Her. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Okay, cool. She's in Stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:48 I think she's a good choice. Yeah. That being said, what do you think of her being in it? Probably good. Probably a good choice. Yeah. No, I think it's solid. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:15:59 She won't bring that Oprah crowd, but I think she's suited for it, so that's pretty cool. Mark Hamill oh yes he's played many characters Luke Skywalker the guy from Wing Commander
Starting point is 00:16:11 oh yep he was in an episode of Sequest DSV he was in the film Prototype wait no was it called Prototype
Starting point is 00:16:16 no he was in The Guyver MacGyver The Guyver what's The Guyver The Guyver was like this Japanese animated series yeah
Starting point is 00:16:24 about like this kid and he finds this super suit and it makes him super powered or whatever. And then he just kills monsters. Is that the first time that Japanese have ever done something like that? Yeah, it's definitely the first one. You'd know it as the one time they did that. And yeah, there was a live movie version of that and he was in that. What was he in it?
Starting point is 00:16:39 Was he a mentor? I don't know what he was. I've seen it and I can't remember. From like the 90s? I would say the 90s. Okay. I'm going to look it up. I like Mark Hamill. He seems like a good dude.
Starting point is 00:16:50 He's going to reprise his role as the trickster in The Flash. Yeah, okay. I mean, obviously probably a different kind of trickster because for those who are not in the know, in the early 90s Flash TV series, there is one of The Flash's rogues.
Starting point is 00:17:05 He's a guy called the Trixie. He's kind of, I don't want to say low-rent Joker. Yeah, that's the Clue Master. Yeah. He's the low-rent The Riddler. Yeah. But by all accounts, and I haven't seen this, he put in a decent performance in that, didn't he?
Starting point is 00:17:18 Yeah, it was good. That's probably one of the highlights of that series. Yeah, and the foam muscly suit. The foam muscly suit was pretty good, yeah. Uh-huh, yep. So I'd imagine that when they bring him back, he'll probably be more kind of Clock King-ish. He was this kind of wacky villain,
Starting point is 00:17:34 and now he's just kind of more kind of... I think the idea is in this that there's a new version of the Trickster out, doing tricky Trickster stuff, and The Flash and Mark Hamill have to team up and stop him maybe. It's interesting that The Flash is doing this because they've taken John Wesley Shipp, who is The Flash, who was The Flash in the original series. He's now Flash's dad. Flash dad.
Starting point is 00:17:55 They got Amanda Pays, who was Tina McGee in the original series. Yeah. Who was like the Star Labs helper type. Yeah. And they brought her back same character and only now she works for the competitor yeah that's competitor yep so cool weird right i like it though yeah it's cool yeah yeah it's always nice to see mark hamill yeah in stuff in stuff doing stuff yeah yeah having a beard sometimes having a beard not having a
Starting point is 00:18:20 beard other time i like him he does look good with a beard he's also in the secret service service coming up oh there's actually have you seen the secrets have you read the secret service Not having a beard I like him with a beard He does look good with a beard He's also in the Secret Service Coming up Oh really There's actually Have you seen the Secret Have you read the Secret Service No I haven't It's not called
Starting point is 00:18:28 It's called Kingsman Secret Service The comic's called Secret Service But there's a Very funny Like the opening panel So that is Mark Hamill Like it's the actor Mark Hamill
Starting point is 00:18:38 Oh yes And it's quite amusing And I don't know if they're Going to do that exactly But if they did It would be pretty incredible But he's in the movie version He is
Starting point is 00:18:43 But I don't know Whether he's playing Mark Hamill Or something else Right Because I won't spoil the comic But he's in the movie version. He is. But I don't know whether he's playing Mark Hamill or something else. Right. Because I won't spoil the comic but it's got a lot of it's to do
Starting point is 00:18:49 with celebrities and celebrity culture a little bit of it. But it's set in England. Yes. Mark Hamill's in England. I guess so. I thought he wasn't
Starting point is 00:18:56 allowed in England. I can spoil since the incident. Yeah. He blinded that guy. Oh he did yeah. He blinded that Bobby. One more bit of news. I have Mark Hamill news. Oh. If weed that Bobby. One more bit of news.
Starting point is 00:19:06 I have Mark Hamill news. Oh. If we're going to talk about Mark Hamill news. Yes. Did you hear about, there was a live reading of The Empire Strikes Back? Oh, yeah, I did, yeah, yeah. A couple of days ago. Alan Page's hand solo.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Yeah, Jason Reitman decided to get a whole bunch of people together. Yeah. And then do that. So, Hamill was the Emperor. Oh, sweet. He did a sweet Emperor's voice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He also did the lines for Obi-Wan Kenobi and Boba Fett.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Let's see. And he's a voice guy now. Yeah, yeah. That's right. Apparently spot on. Yeah, definitely. Molto bene. And Rainn Wilson was Chewbacca.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Just Chewbacca. Yep. Just doing the growling. Just doing the thing. And, of course course Darth Vader JK Simmons that's amazing I love that pretty good right
Starting point is 00:19:47 yeah yeah yeah one of my favourites did he just do it as JK Simmons I don't know just shouting there's gotta be I think there is clips of it
Starting point is 00:19:54 okay I'm gonna check it out and also Aaron Paul from Breaking Bad was Luke Skywalker yeah that's cool yeah that's cool I like anyway I'd like to hear
Starting point is 00:20:01 I'd like to hear all of that so if somebody has a bootleg version of it anyone who's there, Mark Hamill, if you were there and you're listening and you bootlegged it. We want it, Hamill. If you could send it to us.
Starting point is 00:20:10 We'll keep all your racially motivated attacks secret. We'll play it right down. Absolutely. If you send us that. Good dude. I've got some Harry Potter news, Mason. Oh, yes. You're familiar with Harry Potter?
Starting point is 00:20:21 Are they releasing new stories? They're going to do stories and stuff. Whatever. It's not important. That's not my news, Mason. Look at the real news. You've gone deep Harry Potter? Are they releasing new stories? They're going to do stories and stuff, whatever. It's not important. That's not my news, Mason. All right, okay, sure. Look at the real news. You've gone deep.
Starting point is 00:20:28 This is a deep cut. J.K. Rowling regrets killing one of her characters from the series. Oh, yes. Do you want to know which one it is? Dumbledore. Spoiler alert, by the way. Not Dumbledore. Not Dumbledore.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Correct. Great. Florian Fortescue. Dunno who that is. He runs an ice cream parlor. Dunno why. But she regrets killing that famous character, Florian Fortescue Dunno who that is He runs an ice cream parlor Dunno why But she regrets Killing that
Starting point is 00:20:46 Famous character Floride Fortescue What did that character do Besides Was it Did he He or she Provide kind of like
Starting point is 00:20:56 Fatherly advice to the kids They were in the Like important They were in the ice cream shop And they're like What do we do now And she's like You bloody
Starting point is 00:21:03 Go with your heart man i don't know man or woman who knows uh no this apparently was a wider character that was going to become a major character later that would pass on some key information about the deathly hellos oh yes you know what that is yep and but that basically it did work out that way She wrote this character in a corner And then was forced to kill them And she regrets it I'm trapped in a corner Oh no
Starting point is 00:21:30 I've slipped on all my ice cream Sorry Shot in the head Anyway Mason Yes We're going to talk about something else Oh yes The airman's written in
Starting point is 00:21:43 Right And he goes Hey listen Wait who's written in Airman The official air goes, hey, listen. Wait, who's written in? Airman. The official airman of the show. Oh, okay. Sure.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Anyways, today's topic, Christmas. As the next episode, we'll probably have something to... He says probably, just so we're clear. Okay, good. Something to do with Christmas, as it's the last one before. Then I thought you might like to discuss superhero-themed gifts, ornaments, or stuff like that to get into the festive spirit, all while jumping a motorcycle over a line of cars in a Santa suit. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Yeah, so what we thought we'd do, Eamon and everybody else listening. No, just him. Just you. Everybody else, turn this off. This isn't for you. No, we're going to go through some of our favourite Christmas movies and possibly comics, but I can't think of any.
Starting point is 00:22:22 So we'll just bloody bit of back and forth. Hey, I had a thought. Hang on. Okay. This is not Christmas related. I was going to put this into news. Hang on. Wait.
Starting point is 00:22:33 You can edit this out. I'll leave it in forever. You saw it on Twitter. This isn't Christmas related, but somebody said, Chase, Chase Vallone on Twitter got a fish moony tattoo. Yeah. Is that real? I hope so. I need to know.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Well, look. Like, they've shaved their leg or whatever it is. They've got it pretty great. I don't know about this. Yeah. I'm suspish. I'm also suspish, but I'm so good. For those who don't know uh fish mooney is the
Starting point is 00:23:06 worst character on the tv series gotham she's a scene chewing scenery chewing nightmare on that show and you never get a tattoo of her so this guy's got a tattoo of her fantastic and there's just just a dozen like replies to it like why did you do this? That's the worst. Terrible idea. You're the worst. I hope it's real. Yeah, me too. Yeah, that's great. Anyway, Merry Christmas to that guy. And also, love what you love, man.
Starting point is 00:23:33 This person has embraced it. Yes. You love what you love and that's great. Yeah. Don't like that though. Christmas. Oh, yes. Why don't we talk about Christmas movies?
Starting point is 00:23:41 Okay. I'm going to list some Christmas movies. Some of my favourite Christmas movies. Okay, cool. That's what listeners like Don't they They love lists of things They love barely arranged Lists of things
Starting point is 00:23:49 The Polar Express Is that Okay No it's garbage Okay Doesn't make any sense Fantastic What's the train doing
Starting point is 00:23:57 Why are they taking kids Every Christmas Okay Weird CGI nightmare Jingle all the way You're just gonna list You're just gonna We're... You're just going to... We're really going to do this?
Starting point is 00:24:07 No, we'll do whatever. Okay, good. All right. Now you got some favorites? All right. Well, my favorite is... Okay, this is like probably the default. Like, if you don't like Christmas movies, you'd say you like this Christmas movie.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Sure. And people are like, oh, yeah, but... Fred Claus. No, not Fred Claus. Die Hard. Yeah. Die Hard's great. Yeah, definitely. And people are like, oh, it's not a Fred Claus. No, not Fred Claus. Die Hard. Yeah. Die Hard's great. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:24:25 And people are like, oh, it's not a Christmas movie. It's actually a movie about... It's set at Christmas. Yeah, it's a bloody Christmas movie. It's a bloody Christmas movie. Alan Rickman says the line, now I have a machine gun. Ho, ho, ho. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:37 In his Alan Rickman German voice. In his Alan Rickman voice. Yeah. So I feel that that is a great Christmas film. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. There's carols in it.
Starting point is 00:24:44 There's a lot of Christmas jokes in it Christmas jokes It's set at a Christmas party Yes It's Christmas man It's Christmas It's as Christmas as you can get Christmas spirit
Starting point is 00:24:51 Yeah You know his ex-wife is there I think it ends with a Christmas carol Yeah Like song at the end Yeah Like let it snow at the end doesn't it Probably could be that yeah
Starting point is 00:24:59 Yeah Great It's very Christmas He gets his feet cut up with glass Just like what happens every Christmas. Just like what happens in Home Alone. Yeah. When he steps on the ornaments.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Yeah. Get to that one. But yeah, that's probably my favourite Christmas movie, or one of. But yeah, I guess... But I feel bad listing that as my favourite Christmas movie, again, because people are like, what about... You know how they talk. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:21 You have people talk. What about Christmas with the cranks? That's what people say. Definitely, they do say that. They just want to get a tree or a turkey or something. Maybe. A lot of stuff's happening. They're late for Christmas.
Starting point is 00:25:31 I don't know. Yeah. No, Die Hard's great. Not as good. Die Hard 2 also set at Christmas. Yep. Kind of shit. When's Die Hard 3 set?
Starting point is 00:25:39 It's in the summer. It's just set in the summer. Yeah, exactly. Why keep up the motif? Is the new new one set at Christmas? I don't know. I don't think so missed an opportunity yeah
Starting point is 00:25:47 does it do they have to be set at Christmas though probably not that'd be weird yeah it'd be weird if terrorist action only
Starting point is 00:25:54 happened during Christmas I think Die Hard John McClane happens to be there you'd think he'd go on vacation or whatever you would because John McClane
Starting point is 00:26:00 really only fights the bad guys because he has to because there's literally nobody else there. Until like Die Hard 5. Yeah. When he just does.
Starting point is 00:26:07 He goes over to save his son. Right. And they get in this car chase because he was in Russia because his son got arrested. He doesn't. I haven't seen this, by the way. This is what I've gleaned from it. And I started to watch it. I'm like, nah.
Starting point is 00:26:16 No. Crazy. So I turn it off. But, um. And he's in a car chase. I think I saw this bit. And he's clearly there to rescue his son. And he keeps crashing into cars.
Starting point is 00:26:23 And he keeps like yelling out I'm on vacation I'm just on vacation like you're not on vacation you're here very you've got a very specific purpose right right like does he
Starting point is 00:26:33 does he yell that to people yes he's not grumbling to himself no he's just like yelling it out so yeah great it's pretty good
Starting point is 00:26:40 what do you think about those like you know there's like the Polar Express and there's like the Christmas Carol one with Jim Carrey. These are Robert Zemeckis Christmas movies that are all mo-captioned. Do you have any love for them at all?
Starting point is 00:26:51 No. Me neither. But do children? Yeah, I think so. Really? Yeah. Do you have a children's... Do you have something from your childhood?
Starting point is 00:26:59 Yes. A film that you remember? Definitely. This is my favourite. I have fond memories. There's one, which I haven't seen it since I was a kid it's from 1995 it's called
Starting point is 00:27:06 Santa Claus the Movie oh yes and I haven't seen it since like the early 90s or whatever but um it's where it's about Santa Claus
Starting point is 00:27:14 and the origins of Santa Claus oh yes and then how Christmas runs and Dudley Moore is an elf I think I have vague memories of that okay yeah
Starting point is 00:27:22 and a big corporation takes over Christmas and makes Christmas 2. And they distribute candy canes if you eat them and make you float. Huh. That sounds amazing. I'm on board with that. And there's like a jet-powered sleigh.
Starting point is 00:27:37 And so Dudley Moore goes in direct competition with Santa. And it's nuts, probably. But so, I haven't seen it in a long time. But that's one of my favourites from when I was a little guy. Just a little, just a little, little guy.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Yeah. Do you have a kid's favourite one? Well, if we're talking about the little drummer boy from earlier. Hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:55 There's a, there's a stop motion animation version of the little drummer boy and. So it's everyone going, shut up! Just shut up! Just stop drumming,
Starting point is 00:28:03 God! Anyway, they go into, it's like, it's like little drummer, God! Anyway, they go into, it's like, it's like Little Drummer Boy year one. Like, they go into his origin and essentially
Starting point is 00:28:09 he's an orphan boy. He's sitting in a chair. His parents are dead. He's wondering what to do with his life. Drum crashes through the window. I've got it!
Starting point is 00:28:20 But, we might have talked about this last year, but it's my favourite, not because it's any good, but because they used to show them like before you went to school, like at seven in the morning or whatever. I wasn't allowed to watch TV in the morning at school. Well, anyway, I guess they played them in segments because they'd be like an hour or whatever long.
Starting point is 00:28:38 So they might play them over two days or whatever. But basically, the little drummer boy is out on his own going to see Jesus or whatever. Because he's been orphaned, Bruce Wayne style. But there's a scene where his parents are killed. And it's stop motion. And the dad is killed with a knife to the chest. Imagine a stop motion knife to the chest hitting a marionette man. And he gets hit right square in the chest and he goes down.
Starting point is 00:29:10 And he's a dead marionette man and his son is an orphan. What? Hang on. Why? What do you mean why? Like, what? Why does he get murdered? Because the kids stuff back in the day, it was all tragedy, right?
Starting point is 00:29:23 Yeah, it was. That's why all Disney films, like, all the main characters were orphans Yeah you're right. It's awful This must have been, I don't know if it's the same company but do you remember the Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer animated origin story? It's a very famous kind of stop motion one It's got the abominable snowman and stuff. Say it again? Abominable
Starting point is 00:29:39 Oh are you sure? What is it? Now I'm on board. Abominable! Yes Do you remember that one? Yes. It's like the story of Rudolph. I think it is all the same company. Yeah, yeah. Rankin Bass.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Yeah, I used to love that as well when I was a kid as well. But I couldn't watch it, Mason, during the week because I had to go to school and learn. Yeah, whatever. Because I needed to know how to make a good podcast. School of Hard Knocks. All right. This bloke. Learning to drum on the streets.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Did you ever get into the Santa Claus movies with the Tim Allen ones? No, never. Never a fan? No. Were they funny? No. Great. But the first one...
Starting point is 00:30:13 It was an interesting... Is Tim Allen in Christmas with a crank as well? Yes. Great, okay. What's he done lately? Anything? Zoom Academy. Is that what it was called?
Starting point is 00:30:22 Yeah, where it was like a superhero one. Yeah, I remember that. It was called Zoom Academy. Yeah, something like that. It was called Zoom yeah where it was like it was like a superhero one yeah I remember that it was called Zoom Academy yeah something like that they did like might have been called Zoom they did a team he had like
Starting point is 00:30:30 he's got a new sitcom where he's a dad and maybe he's got like eight daughters and he's like it's called I've Got Too Many Daughters it's a little drummer boy
Starting point is 00:30:36 look look there he is he's holding a lamb or something there's a lot of animals I don't know what's going on that looks like a nightmare yeah it is
Starting point is 00:30:44 that looks like a nightmare yeah it does doesn is. That looks like a nightmare on that. Yeah, it does, doesn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Look at his point. Oh my god. See, that's him. Now imagine his parents had just been killed with access to the chest or whatever it was.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Anyway, sorry. Yeah. I don't know. What was I talking about? Yeah, but I like the premise where, you know, he accidentally kills Santa. We all love that premise. We all love accidental murder. And then he becomes Santa and whatever.
Starting point is 00:31:04 And it's got an interesting kind of transformation where over the year he slowly becomes Santa. We all love that premise. We all love accidental murder. And then he becomes Santa and whatever. And it's got an interesting kind of transformation where over the year he slowly becomes Santa. And whatever. Kind of against his will and then he just kind of goes with it. They probably get worse as they go but I think they're good kind of Santa kind of kids movies. Like they're fun and whatevs.
Starting point is 00:31:19 The third one has Jack Frost and he fights Martin Short. Okay that's alright. The second one is a robot Santa and he fights robot Santa. I'll watch Martin Short in a lot of stuff. I'll watch Versus a robot version of yourself. I'll watch a Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey certainly. Yeah, that's good, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. Did it blow your mind in Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey where
Starting point is 00:31:36 they see robot versions of themselves and then they build robot versions of themselves to beat up the robot versions of themselves? I remember that. That was great. People don't like Bogus Journey. I like it a lot fucking great yeah yeah i'm looking forward to the third one as well yeah um we're gonna are we gonna mix tv shows in here as well yeah whatever man right all right just just christmas yeah just christmas the the very first simpsons episode is a christmas episode it is yeah it's the one where bart accidentally burns their all the christmas
Starting point is 00:32:04 the santa's little helper one or is that the same one where they get s their... Isn't this the Santa's Little Helper one? Or is that the same one? Where they get Santa's Little Helper? This is the same episode. Maybe. Hang on. Give me one second. No, I think those are different episodes where Bart melts the tree.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Yes. And then they get all the charity gifts from everybody. Yes, that's the one. And then they find out that it's not really... Yeah, that's the one. I'm not going to look it up now. Yeah, that's the one. That was...
Starting point is 00:32:23 That's not the first one, though. Isn't it? The Santa's Little Helper's one is the first one. Huh. Yeah. What happens in the Santa's Little Helper one? They adopt the one. I'm not going to look it up now. Yeah, that's the one. That was... That's not the first one, though. Isn't it? The Santa's Little Helpers one is the first one. Huh. Yeah. What happens in the Santa's Little Helpers one? They adopt the dog as a gift because Homer blows all his money for some reason. Well, they're both about them being poor and kind of...
Starting point is 00:32:36 Charity. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Those sort of set the tone for early Simpsons stuff. Like, the animation wasn't great. Yep. The characters weren't fully formed yet. No. But was sort of like okay there's these there's these
Starting point is 00:32:49 characters they really love each other they're kind of all idiots but you know they kind of get along kind of thing but now what was the last simpsons episode you watched couldn't tell you okay great couldn't tell you i watched like every now and then someone will put like a clip on facebook like a six second clip oh yes and i'll watch I watch like every now and then someone will put like a clip on Facebook, like a six second clip. Oh, yes. And I'll watch that. I'll be like, and then that makes me laugh.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Like the Mr. Kearns when Bart's begging for money. Mr. Burns is looking for an heir. And Bart, I'm butchering this. And it's taking longer than six seconds. It is, sure. But anyway, Homer, like, so he holds auditions for people who are worthy to inherit all his money. And Homer writes Bart's cue cards. And Bart comes up and he's like, me, this is written in broken English.
Starting point is 00:33:34 And it says Mr. Kern. I fucked that up. Forget it. Don't worry about it. Great. Futurama do a good Christmas episode as well. Yes, they do. They've got the idea behind Futurama's Christmas, if you haven't seen it, I think they've changed it
Starting point is 00:33:46 to X-mas as well, like officially. Is it everyone lives in fear? Everyone lives in fear because they've created this robotic Santa, but they basically... Who lives, I think, on Pluto. Yep. And basically, he deems everybody unworthy of gifts. Yes. So, he's a mass murderer.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Right. So, and it's pretty great. And I remember there's a hilarious bit where he goes through and he's judging everybody and then he just hands Zoidberg a present. Right, right. He's like, he's the only one who's worthy. And that's pretty great. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:34:19 So, yeah. But that's pretty cool how everybody lives in fear of this terrifying Santa man. Yes. Santa man. Yes. Santa robot. Yeah. You know, it's another Christmas movie, though. I'm ready. Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang.
Starting point is 00:34:30 I was just going to say that one. Yeah. Yeah, go ahead. I haven't seen it in a while. Shane Black. But yeah, what do you think? I love it. It's one of my favourite.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Not just Christmas movies. That's one of my favourite movies. Really? Yeah, but again, I haven't seen it in a while, so maybe. Is it the funniness that you like? Yeah, I love the funniness. I love Fat Val Kilmer. Yes.
Starting point is 00:34:47 I love Robert Downey Jr. before he was famous again. Yes. Like sort of on his last legs a little bit. Yeah, yeah. Pretty good. I think that was the kind of thing that kind of jump-started his career. Like got that spark kind of going. I think so anyway.
Starting point is 00:35:00 Yeah. Because that kind of got him back on people's radar, I think. Because that was 2005, I believe. And I think from that, people were like, oh, good. He was also in Bowfinger. I have no memory of that. What was he in Bowfinger? He's like a Hollywood executive type.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Did he look kind of a little rough? No, he looked all right. He looked all right. Coked out a little? Not to my knowledge. Okay, great. Not to my knowledge. I've never had a No, he looked alright. Huh. Yeah, he looked alright. Coked out a little? Not to my knowledge. Okay, great. Not to my knowledge. I've never had a cocaine, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:35:29 I'm not really a drugs man, as you know. I'm not saying did you watch it on cocaine. Fine, I did, alright? Jesus. No, he didn't look like it, though. He didn't look like he was from memory. Yeah. What else you got there?
Starting point is 00:35:42 Oh, well, how about... Oh, Community. Yeah. he does a christmas episode every year and if we're talking about creepy stop-motion marionettes community got it in spades boy did they yeah they had that kind of polar express kind of yeah yeah but in the rankin and bass kind of style yeah that was pretty cool they really can take a concept and just nail it yeah yeah, yeah, totally. Like a sci-fi or a whatever. It's amazing the way they did it.
Starting point is 00:36:08 A paintball. A paintball, yes. I'm doing a paintball. I'm doing a paintball. Yeah, really, really incredible. It's really baffling. Is it too niche community? Is that why people don't like it?
Starting point is 00:36:19 Yeah, you know what? I think maybe that it's, not that it's niche, or maybe... But that sitcoms thrive on just being the same every episode. Sure. Like, even the best ones, you've got the cast of characters, it's in the same location. Yeah. You know, the plots revolve around their jobs or whatever. Yeah. And with community, you know, you can just go off the rails.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Yeah. their jobs or whatever and with community you know you can just go off the rails yeah it can be they can go into a you know Polar Express universe or they because it's somebody was it somebody's dream was it Arben's dream
Starting point is 00:36:51 yeah Arben's dream or they can you know go into a D&D universe and be their characters or a video game universe or a video game or play paintball yeah or play paintball
Starting point is 00:36:58 no you can relate to that who's ever played paintball just the rich just the rich just Hollywood fat cats there's that space episode as well where they they're in that space simulator hollywood fat cats there's a there's that space episode as well where they they're in that space simulator uh-huh like they do there's a boating one they do it all man yeah and i think there's why isn't that appealing though that's i don't
Starting point is 00:37:14 know i don't know because people do people go to work and they're like oh i'm sick of sick of my job i'm sick of this blah blah blah yeah and then you know they just i would just want to go home and watch whatever yeah it's the same would just want to go home and watch whatever it's the same and I want to be comforted by that with community they're like that's it
Starting point is 00:37:33 yeah yeah I know this is a this is a favourite kind of black comedy people like people love Bad Santa oh with Billy Bolthorn haven't seen it
Starting point is 00:37:41 yeah it's alright I like it oh you're good like it's grim and whatever but he really commits to that like he's real gruff and he looks
Starting point is 00:37:47 he looks drunk I think he was I think he did drink the entire time yep like yeah like he was very kind of
Starting point is 00:37:53 he really got into character wow that's pretty incredible did he do any cocaine no doubt yeah good there's a bit where he pees his pants
Starting point is 00:38:00 and I think I can't remember whether he wanted to do it for real and I don't I think they might not have ended up doing it
Starting point is 00:38:04 because it wouldn't have shown up on camera as well. Right, yeah. He was like, I'll just do it, whatever. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah. That's true. P doesn't look like P on camera. Looks like cats.
Starting point is 00:38:12 It does look like cats. But weirdly, if you tape a whole bunch of cats together, it looks like you've P'd yourself. Gremlins? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. It's a good one, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:38:25 Yeah, it is a good one. These aren't all going to be great. Gremlins is fantastic. They'll be talking about another Gremlins for years. I don't know whether that'll ever eventuate. And if they do, whether they do it kind of the way they used to with puppets and whatnot. I think it's going to depend how Star Wars does. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:43 And it's going to do billions of dollars. So I think they'll be like, oh, yeah, we can do puppets again. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the puppetry in that's amazing. And whenever they're not puppets, whenever they're kind of a distance, they're stop motion. And it doesn't, you know, it doesn't all look super convincing, but it's pretty great. And it's so much more better having like something actually there than tactile that people are reacting to. They're just like they're gross and mean and vulgar and all that kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:39:10 But in the best way. And it's a really dark kind of Christmas movie, isn't it? Because in that movie as well, the girl in that, her dad was killed at Christmas. He disappeared on Christmas. And they end up finding, she tells this story, they find him days later. And he's dressed in a Santa costume and he's wedged in the chimney. Right. So he was going to come down and surprise them. yeah it's pretty it's pretty great that is was gremlins 2 set at christmas it was set in a mall in i couldn't it doesn't it probably was
Starting point is 00:39:36 but i yeah it doesn't jump out at me yeah as being it jumps out at more as me as being a parody of yeah gremlins 1 but i think gremlins 2 is good for that reason. It just kind of pokes holes in the whole, like, if you feed them after midnight, what time zone is it? Right, right. And all that kind of stuff. It's pretty great. But yeah, anyway, it is what it is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:55 You got another one that you love more than anything? I love the Justice League Christmas episode. I haven't seen that. Well, but it's kind of, it's a bold move for a kid's cartoon series yeah well like kids like an action cartoon series yeah insofar as there's no action yeah and it's just like it's sort of like all that you know the the hero the justice league saved like an alien planet from destruction or whatever and they're like well like right at the start they're like well that's done and then they sort of just go their separate ways and just do christmas stuff okay and it's kind of
Starting point is 00:40:24 like i guess it's a testament to that universe that they you know paul denny and bruce tim and those guys created that you you can't you know you can you know the characters stand up on their own yeah just to be like well you don't you don't need the masks and the blah blah blah yeah like um clark kent goes back to smallville yeah and he sort of switches back to his smallville kind of personality. Okay, yeah, yeah. It's kind of like... Does he hang out with like Lana Lang and stuff or his folks or...
Starting point is 00:40:48 I can't remember. Does he meet his high school bully? Yeah, and he beats him up. Good. Yeah, just really brutally. Just tears him in half. What does Batman do at Christmas? Him and Alfred?
Starting point is 00:40:55 Oh, he's on Watchtower Duty. Ah. Because he's all sad. He would, wouldn't he? Yeah, exactly. Do you know what time of year Batman's parents die? It's generally the winter, isn't it? It seems winter, yeah. Or it has been, but... Batman's parents die? It's generally the winter, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:41:06 It has been, but... They don't dwell on that. They certainly don't. Maybe there's a deleted scene where he's just like, in the watchtower, just like, why? Why?
Starting point is 00:41:15 Yeah, so Clark brings Martian Manhunter to Smallville. Yeah. Okay. And he doesn't understand Christmas. Cool. It's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:41:20 So he learns a lesson and stuff. Yeah, we all learn a lesson. Great. What else happens in it? Does he change his... He doesn't come down as Martian Manhunter, he learns a lesson and stuff. Yeah, we all learn a lesson. What else happens in it? Does he change his... He doesn't come down as Martian Manhunter. He changes, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Yeah. Okay. And he's like, I don't understand Christmas. But then he sort of walks around the town and he sees the Christmas cheer and he's like, oh, I get it. He's like, okay, right, I get it. There is some action. Hawkgirl spends Christmas at a bar in space and starts a bar brawl.
Starting point is 00:41:43 That's pretty good. Spends Christmas at a bar in space and starts a bar brawl. That's pretty good. And The Flash, in like Jingle All The Way style, he goes to an orphanage and he's like, I'm going to buy all you kids what the present you want for Christmas. And it's like a wrapping duck. It's a toy that's a duck.
Starting point is 00:41:59 And he has to sort of go around the city trying to find it. Okay, cool. That sounds great. Justice League Unlimited, is it? I think it was just regular Justice League. Just regular Justice League Season 1. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty great.
Starting point is 00:42:09 All right. That sounds really good. I might watch that at some point. Not on Christmas. Maybe on Christmas. Yeah, maybe on Christmas Day. Christmas. Just shove your family aside and just watch that.
Starting point is 00:42:18 What are your thoughts on this? I have no thoughts on it. Oh. On anything. Oh. No, go ahead. Love Actually. I've not seen the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:42:26 I've seen it in bits because it's really long, right? Correct. And whenever it's played on TV over here, is it usually played on Christmas Eve or maybe? Yeah, probably some of that. Then it's usually split up with a lot of ad breaks. Like it's on network TV and it's split up with a lot of ad breaks and so it's like three hours long. And there's a whole lot of different plots going at once yes exactly so i've usually flicked over and there's rickman's in it right rickman's in it i normally see the bit with rickman
Starting point is 00:42:52 yeah like he's pretty good yeah but i don't know where this plot is headed yeah so does rickman fall in love with a girl who doesn't speak english no that's colin firth okay great yeah actually what does rickman do rickmanman is married to Nanny McPhee. What's her name? Emma Thompson? Emma Thompson. Right. That's not what she's really strictly known for.
Starting point is 00:43:10 But who's also, she's the Prime Minister's sister, Hugh Jackman. Hugh Jackman. Hugh Grant. Hugh Grant is the, yeah. Yep. And, but he, she buys a necklace. Imagine if Hugh Jackman was the Prime Minister. My goodness.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Bloody oath. And he buys a necklace and she finds a necklace, this really expensive necklace, and she's looking forward to him giving it to her. But then on Christmas, he doesn't give it to her. He gives it to his secretary because he kind of starts to fall for her or whatever. And so she knows that now she figures out
Starting point is 00:43:42 that he's in love with someone else or whatever. It's really quite heartbreaking. A lot of people don't like that movie. I think it's quite good. You sound like a real sissy. Yeah. You're right. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:53 I just think the worst thing about that movie is all these other movies kind of spun out of it, thinking they could do it like Valentine's Day and New Year's Eve. Then all these stories come together and they're just junk. But I think Love Actually is quite good. And I know a lot of people won't agree with me on that, but I'm not getting rid of this Love Actually tattoo. That's all I'm saying. Absolutely, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Is it love on the front and then action on the back? Yeah. Love on the chest, like real gangster style, in like a gothic print, and on the back, just like, actually? Question mark? Yeah, nice. Yeah, good. If you look at anybody's DVD collection, gangster style in like a gothic print and on the back just like actually question mark yeah nice yeah good if you look at anybody's dvd collection like any not like you know like if you go to someone's house like a dad or whatever a family love actually dvd always has to be there required to be there that's it huh have you seen scrooged i haven't seen it but i want to ask you many years
Starting point is 00:44:42 with bill murray yeah Apparently that's really good. Look, it's been a lot of years. Yeah. I think... When did it come out? It was like the early 80s? I think it was 90s. No. Like early 90s.
Starting point is 00:44:53 1988. Oh. Yeah, I think I saw it when it came out. Like first TV show. So it would have been like 1989. So I was eight. Yeah. I'm pretty sure I found it terrifying. So I don't think I would eight. Yeah. I think I, I'm pretty sure I found it terrifying.
Starting point is 00:45:06 So I don't think I would have seen it. I'm sure it's good. Like I bet it's funny. Yeah. It's got Bill Murray and he's the best. He sure is. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Yeah. What's it, what about all those, you know, like national lampoons, like Christmas vacation. I like that. I remember liking it.
Starting point is 00:45:18 It's got a weird Chevy chase flip out, which I love. True. Yeah. I like young Chevy chase. Not as much regular day, modern day Chevy chase. No, he's, yeah i like young cherry chase not as much regular day modern day cherry chase no he's yeah he's a monster he's kind of a monster and he kind of we were talking about community earlier there was some there was some episodes that are really like that pierce is
Starting point is 00:45:36 a really bad guy in that yeah and i and i don't understand why like that that the parts of the parts of community that I dislike, that really kind of maybe turn me off community a little bit, where he was a really bad guy in those. And I know that's the script, but I can't help but think that that was Chevy Chase's fault. Like, he insisted on being a villain. In all honesty, I think he had a big hand in Dan Harmon being fired.
Starting point is 00:46:03 I think because Chevy Chase has the star power. Uh-huh, yeah. Because they famously do not get along. Right. And did not get along during the show. Uh-huh. And I think Dan Harmon even gave a speech at a wrap-up party where he just paid out Chevy Chase.
Starting point is 00:46:18 So, I might be wrong, but, you know. Okay, this is my newest favourite Christmas thing. Yeah. If we're just listing Christmas things. And I've never seen it, but I was like was like what is it maybe i've forgotten some like these sort of off the top of my head but i'm like maybe you know maybe there's one that i saw and i really enjoyed and i couldn't remember it but i've not seen this but i've just looked at the wiki page for it sure and now i love it because it's my new favorite uh very special christmas with beavers and butthead. Right. But look,
Starting point is 00:46:45 I love it from the first sentence of the synopsis because it says the duo are sitting on their couch. Wrong there. T-H-E-R-E. Wrong there. And Butthead tells Beavis
Starting point is 00:46:54 that he thinks it's Christmas. They say that's cool because you get to watch TV. No punctuation. So they decide to watch some music videos. Blah, blah, blah. Then they watch Frosty the Snowman, but hated it,
Starting point is 00:47:05 so they change it to The Little Drama by Bing Crosby and David Bowie, but quickly changed it for some unknown reason. So they change it to Do They Know It's Christmas by Band-Aid, which they liked a little bit. Then they change it to a channel where there's, wrong there, a season's greetings card that's playing White Christmas. Then they change it to the California raisins playing Rudolph
Starting point is 00:47:26 the red-nosed reindeer which they think are turds then they start talking about if turds were alive so then it changes to another season's greetings card but it is playing
Starting point is 00:47:34 the Nutcracker suite to where beavers and buttheads sing along and laugh pretty great right pretty great does that not fill you with the Christmas spirit
Starting point is 00:47:42 I don't need to see that anymore absolutely that's well fleshed out yeah that's pretty amazing oh jeez that sounds really Pretty great. Does that not fill you with the Christmas spirit? I don't need to see that anymore. Absolutely. That's well fleshed out. Yeah. That's pretty amazing. Oh, geez. That sounds really, um, really good. You a Beavis and Butthead fan?
Starting point is 00:47:52 No. I'm okay with it. Brennan Stimpy, yes. Yeah. Beavis and Butthead, not so much. What about Daria? I mean, Beavis and Butthead were essentially just, like, bumpers in between video clips on MTV, so.
Starting point is 00:48:03 That's moments. What about Daria? Daria, I liked a lot. Because Daria hit me at that exact right age. Oh, yes. So, yeah. We like little animated girls. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:48:14 What about Nightmare Before Christmas? Tim Burton's Nightmare Before Christmas, even though Tim Burton didn't direct Nightmare Before Christmas. I've got no feelings towards it. What about you can't really remember it great but I know it's a favourite
Starting point is 00:48:28 so I thought might as well bring it up it's very well animated I remember liking it a lot but you know yeah
Starting point is 00:48:35 what about Hook is that a Christmas movie no maybe you know you gotta look at your classics like Miracle on 34th Street. We could talk about some classics.
Starting point is 00:48:46 Uh-huh, sure. Anything about that that rings a bell in your mind? Hang on, sorry. Say that whole thing again. Miracle on 34th Street. Oh, no. There's a couple of them. I don't like sad Christmas anything.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Sad sincerity at Christmas. Yeah, sad sincerity. What about A Mom for Christmas? I think Olivia Newton-John is a mannequin that comes to life. Oh, yeah. And becomes somebody's mom for Christmas. Yeah. Because their mom has passed away, presumably.
Starting point is 00:49:06 But I think there's also a movie called Mannequin where that same thing happens, but not at Christmas. Yes. And it's Kim Cattrall. Yeah, it is. And maybe James Spader is in that? Sure. Great. Are they both mannequins?
Starting point is 00:49:15 No, just her. Twist. Yeah. Is that a twist? No. So you're not really a miracle on 34th Street. No, I don't like this. Is that the one where Santa's on trial as well?
Starting point is 00:49:25 Ugh. Where they're like, admit that you're not the real Santa. And he's like, fuck you, I am. Oh, see, I'd watch that. If it was just a really aggressive, drunk, shopping mall Santa. Just, he's been locked up and he's on trial for just kicking out windows or whatever. And he's just really abusive in court. I'd watch that for two hours.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Yeah. So I think it's basically, and then maybe at the end, I can't even, I can't remember. I might not have ever seen it, but it's like, maybe he is real
Starting point is 00:49:52 and it was real all along. Oh, yes. Elf? What about Elf? Not Elf with an A. Right, but Elf with an E. Yeah. Look, I like the sticker pack on Facebook.
Starting point is 00:50:03 The Elf sticker pack. It's pretty good. Do you enjoy it? Is it? Yeah, look to be honest, it came out not when I was a kid. I think I was like, I was 18. What era of Will Ferrell is this? This would be a bit after kind of old school around, a bit after Anchorman probably.
Starting point is 00:50:23 After Anchorman. Okay, interesting. It's about 2003, 2004. Okay. Yeah. So that was the heyday. Itorman probably. After Anchorman, okay, interesting. It's about 2003, 2004. Okay. So that was the heyday. It's funny. Like, it's funny. James Caan's in it.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Yeah. There's a real Santa in it. Like, it's got a good kind of visual gag and he's good. Yep. But it's not something I, I know a lot of people love that movie. I don't gravitate towards it. But I know what, I like it enough. A lot of kids love that movie.
Starting point is 00:50:44 And I know that, I was going to say, lot of kids love that movie and I know that, I was going to say, they've talked about doing a sequel and Will Ferrell's like, I'm not going to squeeze into a bloody elf costume. I'm too old. Like I'm not,
Starting point is 00:50:52 it's not happening. Yeah. What about the Muppets Christmas Carol? Again, sadness. Yeah. Well, that is, that's Michael Caine though. Oh, that's true, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:03 I remember quite liking it, but there's also a Disney Muppet Christmas... Not Muppet. There's a Disney Christmas Carol animated one with Mickey Mouse and Scrooge and whatever. Have you seen that? No. That is a nightmare as a kid.
Starting point is 00:51:15 It was. At the end, he goes to a grave with Death. Uh-huh. And he's like, whose grave is this? Why is it here? And then Death pulls his hood back and it's like one of the Beagle Boy kind of... He's like, it's for you! And he kicks him into the grave. I remember as a kid's like, whose grave is this? Why is it here? And then Death, like, pulls his hood back and it's like one of the Beagle Boy kind of...
Starting point is 00:51:26 He's like, it's for you! And he, like, kicks him into the grave. And I remember this kid being like, oh my god! Yeah. Ah! But, um, yeah, terrifying. Yeah. But also quite entertaining.
Starting point is 00:51:37 You don't want anybody kicked into a grave. No. That might not even have been what happened. Yeah. Yeah. How many more do you have left? How long is your list? Is it huge?
Starting point is 00:51:45 Let me just go through and see what I got. I think I've mentioned most of them. I'm sure... Look, we've missed things. There's so many good ones. There was an episode of 30 Rock also had a great Christmas episode. There's one... It's like every sitcom where it ends with,
Starting point is 00:51:56 that was the real Santa. I know you talked about this last year. I've seen that on Full House. I've seen it on... Yep. I think that Tim Allen show. Not the new one where he's got eight girls But the other one
Starting point is 00:52:06 Look I love that Whenever that is the twist I love it But I don't think so Yeah Yeah Look I'm pretty
Starting point is 00:52:13 Okay I've got maybe one more Yep And that's The Seinfeld episode Okay Strike Which is
Starting point is 00:52:20 It's not so much a Christmas episode It's a Festivus episode Oh okay So it's Look George has The Costanza family Are done with Christmas it's not so much a christmas episode it's a festivus oh okay so it's um look george has the costanza family are done with christmas they don't care for it uh so they've created festivus yeah which is for the rest of us yes uh and it's uh the traditions are there's no christmas tree there's an aluminium pole yes which unadorned you know you
Starting point is 00:52:45 air your grievances for that year yeah with just all the people around you which is what you do at Christmas anyway so that's pretty good
Starting point is 00:52:52 yep good and there are feats of strength yes and Festivus only ends when George pins his dad yes is that right
Starting point is 00:53:00 yep that's the one um and it's that great where they play a tape from when George is a kid. And he's like, I can't read it. I need glasses. And he's like, you don't need glasses.
Starting point is 00:53:09 Right, yeah. I mean, there's not a lot of actual Festivus in the episode. No. But I think it's interesting how they've built this mythology. Like last year, I went to a Festivus celebration in a park. It was wrestling. I didn't win. Hands of grievancesances it was pretty great
Starting point is 00:53:26 was that last year when you came off the skateboard I did come off the skateboard yes it was motorised to be fair
Starting point is 00:53:33 you would have done better on a regular one no I would have done worse almost certainly what about the Grinch I haven't seen it Jim Carrey yeah
Starting point is 00:53:43 that's that was Jim Carrey. Yeah. That's... That was Jim Carrey post... Truman Show? Yes. Ace Ventura? But he was kind of... Yes. Post all of those ones, yes.
Starting point is 00:53:53 I don't know. It was in that era where I had no interest in seeing anything Jim Carrey related. Yeah. Sure. So, like, this is pre I Love You, Philip Morris and a couple of films like that. Yeah. Still gotta see that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:04 Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I think I've seen it. I'm okay with it. Most of this episode is just going, yeah, I kind of remember sort of that.
Starting point is 00:54:11 It was fine, I guess. You know? That's Christmas really when you think about it. That's Christmas. It's fine, I guess. I've actually got here a couple comic book movies
Starting point is 00:54:19 that are Christmas movies. Oh, yes. Can you think of any off the top of your head? Comic book movies that are set at. Oh, yes. Can you think of any off the top of your head? Comic book movies that are set at Christmas. Yes. Man of Steel.
Starting point is 00:54:32 No, that's not true. Dark Knight Rises. Not true. Not true. If Man of Steel could have been Christmas, it wasn't Christmas afterwards, though. They would have cancelled
Starting point is 00:54:39 Christmas after Man of Steel. Christmas is off. All right, hit me with some. Iron Man 3. Oh, yeah. Which, of course, is Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, same director, Shane Black. And also Lethal Weapon is set at Christmas. Oh, yeah. Christmas is off. All right, hit me with some. Iron Man 3. Oh, yeah. Which, of course, is Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, same director, Shane Black. And also Lethal Weapon is set at Christmas.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention that as well. Lethal Weapon. Bloody loves Christmas this bloke. He does. Yeah, most of his films, if not all of them, are set at Christmas. That's like his thing, yeah. It's interesting.
Starting point is 00:54:58 The other one is Batman Returns. Oh, it is too. Yeah. A weird gothic Christmas. Yeah. Great. Great. Your favourite Batman film, as we've discussed many times.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Not a fan. All right, fine. It's fine. Actually, I got an email here from Michael McCormick. It might have been a tweet. He wants to know if Santa has been in any Marvel or DC movies. As we mentioned, yes. But do you know of any comics?
Starting point is 00:55:25 I know there's like ones from the 60s where like Santa and Superman save Christmas and whatever. There's a whole bunch of those. You know, one of my favourites is... Batman beats up Santa when he comes into his house. Yeah. One of my favourites is...
Starting point is 00:55:41 Look, it's not the real Santa. Yeah. Santa's got Santa with muscles. Oh, Santa, sure. Hulk Hogan, absolutely. There's an issue of Hitman. Oh, yeah. Which is Tommy Monaghan, bitten by an alien space bug,
Starting point is 00:55:54 gets some superpowers and he decides to just only kill... Well, he kills a whole bunch of people, but he decides to focus some of his career on killing superpowered villains. There's an episode called The Santa Contract where... Wait, a comic or an episode? Comic. Sorry. Issue, sorry.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Where, you know, classic, like a janitor at a nuclear reactor falls into a vat of toxic waste and gains, like, radiation powers powers and he puts on a Santa suit and decides to just go around the city killing people and they decide to take that contract and hunt him down
Starting point is 00:56:29 and it's good it's Christmassy and it's fun and also all the narration is in verse so it's great it's a super solid episode
Starting point is 00:56:39 issue issue okay cool does he do it in the end? does he do it like murder in front of kids and stuff? I'm not going to say. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:46 You love that guy, don't you? Yeah, it's good. The hit man. You mentioned him before. I guess because it's all sorts of finite series. Like it was all the one writer. Yeah. More or less all the one illustrator the whole way through.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Yeah. So it's a few issues, is it? No, I meant the whole series. Oh, okay. Sorry. This is issue 22, if you're tracking it down. Yeah. Get it for like a buck.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Get it on Comixology. It's Christmas. They'llXology it's Christmas they'll probably put it up they'll probably put it up yeah well I didn't look into this at all so I have no Christmas comics that's fine maybe next year we'll do Christmas comics oh yeah you can't do a Christmas episode next year because we just did it what do you do next year what do we do next year how do we top this amazing episode Festivus episode where we just talk about our favourite Festivus moments. Air grievances at each other. Yes. That episode of Seinfeld.
Starting point is 00:57:30 That time I fell off the skateboard. Both of those. Both of those. I really enrich it with detail. Yeah. Okay, well look. We've no doubt missed some. Tweet at us.
Starting point is 00:57:40 There's so many. Most likely. What your favourite one is if you... And we've skimmed on the details of a lot. Boy, have we yeah that's alright doesn't really matter
Starting point is 00:57:48 this show is whatever really it is isn't it what do you think about it it's good natured whatever it is so tweet at us at wikipedia brown
Starting point is 00:57:56 at mr sunday movies or at weekly planet pod we'd love to hear it your thoughts we'd love to know what you think of love actually everybody definitely yeah
Starting point is 00:58:04 if you tolerate it as much as I do yes alright well you know what you think of love actually everybody definitely yeah if you tolerate it as much as i do yes all right well you know what it's time for mason what is it time for what we reading oh what we're gonna read i'm doing the thing what are we reading today do you want to sing the Christmas version of that what we reading ba ba ba ba bum what we gonna read pa ra pa pum pum stop
Starting point is 00:58:32 works with anything what do you read in well I was gonna reread Hitman yeah but I guess not
Starting point is 00:58:41 let me think I don't know do you want to should I should I do something Christmassy to should I do something Christmassy or should I avoid
Starting point is 00:58:46 Christmassy things altogether why not why not Christmassy but oh yeah go ahead I'm just whatever okay go ahead
Starting point is 00:58:51 well actually Finn Bramman wants to know more about Mad Max and he requested we do a Mad Max episode oh yeah we can do that which we probably will
Starting point is 00:59:00 yep I mean the short version is watch Mad Max 2 yes that's right in Sudbury but actually the guy on YouTube who is a good dude Is called Bandit Incorporated
Starting point is 00:59:07 I've done a video with him before he's a nice guy He's doing a Mad Max series where he's going through them one by one He just put up his first one for So he's going to do three Yeah but he's also going to look at the trailers So he's going to do three He's a really big Mad Max fan And he's Australian
Starting point is 00:59:24 And he knows a lot of the background stuff. He's more knowledgeable than, well, probably, definitely more than I am and probably more than you. I don't know. What do you know about Mad Max? What do I know about Mad Max?
Starting point is 00:59:34 Yes. List all the things. Leather jacket with only one sleeve. Yes. Double barrel shotgun. Yes. Really loves petrol. Yes. Thunder dome.dome yes now you know more yeah we don't need another hero that's right yeah but yeah so he is a hero yes he's uh the first one's up
Starting point is 00:59:55 maybe the second one's up by now where he talks about the original mad max which is from like the late 70s which is a really low budget australian movie which a lot of people haven't actually seen but it's not just a review. He goes through how it was made and the problems with it and all that kind of stuff. The guy who directed it, George Miller, went on to make a bunch of stuff, and he nearly made Justice League Mortal.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Yeah, I remember that, yeah. So if you want to know in the meantime, if you want to know more about Mad Max than we know and what we can do, I'd say go to Bandit Incorporates' channel, guys, and check out his Mad Max stuff. Yeah. Totally. I've also got some. I would say go to Bandit Incorporates channel guys and check out his Mad Max stuff. Yeah. Totally.
Starting point is 01:00:27 I've also got some listener what we readings. Oh yes. Hey guys. Attack on Titan. I've seen the poster for the film last week. That's been recommended
Starting point is 01:00:34 to us. Yeah. Many many times. Yeah. I've seen the poster for the film last week. I realised I'd heard a lot of good things
Starting point is 01:00:39 about it and decided to give it a go. And I can tell you great show. I played through all 24, 25 in about 24 hours. If you enjoy anime it's definitely worth a go. And I can tell you, great show. I plowed through all 25 in about 24 hours. If you enjoy anime, it's definitely worth a watch.
Starting point is 01:00:47 It can be horrifying in some places. It keeps you guessing with most episodes. Keep it real, you two. I look forward to listening every week for the rest of my life. Oh boy. Oh boy. We've really set ourselves a task. Haven't we there?
Starting point is 01:01:02 Yeah. That's from James, the official abnormal of the podcast. That isn't a misspelling. It's a young Frankenstein reference. Haven't seen it. Get it. Now I get it. Cool.
Starting point is 01:01:13 So that's pretty cool. I'm all for that. I think I had another What We Reading here, but I can't find it. Doesn't matter. That's What We Reading. I'm going to go back and watch Director George Miller from Mad Max's Babe, A Pig in the City. Did he direct that or did he produce it? He directed and produced it. I didn't direct the first one, did he?
Starting point is 01:01:29 Apparently, Babe, a Pig in the City is very good and very underrated. I've heard that. Yeah. Hugo Weems has done it. What's he? Oh, he's the dog. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:37 I love Babe. It's a good movie. That's Christmas. Yeah. There's Christmas in Babe. We've come back around again. We have. We've now officially mentioned all the Christmas movies.
Starting point is 01:01:46 We did it. This is from Steve On. Oh, yes. S-T-E-P-H-O-N. Oh, yes. Hello, James and Mason. You guys are great. It's pronounced Step-on.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Sorry. Sorry, Step-on. As one of the largest James Bond's fans around, I demand you dickheads sing my favourite Bond theme, You Know My Name, from Casino Royale in light of secretaries production
Starting point is 01:02:09 give up the good work tell Mason he's the crow and I hereby elect electing myself the official Sterling Archer
Starting point is 01:02:15 of the podcast PS check out Archer if you haven't already Mason ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba ba na na na na na I think that's my favourite Bond theme.
Starting point is 01:02:32 If you take a life, do you know what you give? What are you like, what it is? When the storm arrives that's a great song it is pretty good it's a good song to run to Mason oh really yeah get into it
Starting point is 01:02:53 yeah my favourite song to run to is Born to Run to you oh yeah close enough
Starting point is 01:02:59 people always recommend it to me it's a good art show as well it's good I haven't seen enough of it but you love it
Starting point is 01:03:04 don't you well they've had to change the name of their secret as well it's good I haven't seen enough of it but you love it don't you well they've had to change the name of their secret organisation because it's ISIS oh really yeah
Starting point is 01:03:10 I didn't know that they've quietly sort of pushed it to the background like there's a scene like in the most
Starting point is 01:03:20 recent season where they're just sort of piling all the ISIS like all the signs in their office and just pushing them out the door kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:03:26 As they acknowledge it. That's good. Yeah, but they're not like, we've got to change it because of terrorism. They're just like, let's be somebody else now. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Oh, that's cool. Hey, hello. Greetings from Scotland. Oh, hello. If you enjoyed Michael Shank's Tone Trap, this is the other one we're in, I guess.
Starting point is 01:03:41 I've got these all out of order. You should check out his older stuff on The Escapist. He did a series called Doomsday Arcade, where video game characters have come to life and try to kill him and his friends. I'm still shocked at how much he gets done, graphics-wise, with so little.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Love the podcast. Introducing it to everyone I know who might be vaguely interested. Cheers, Ross. P.S. Can I be the official kilt-wielding Scotsman of the podcast? Yes. Yes, you can. All right, that sounds cool.
Starting point is 01:04:04 I like... I'm a big fan of introducing people to a podcast when they might be vaguely interested in it. Anyway, if you do like the show, tell a friend. Yeah. That'd be great. Definitely. That's mostly what we'd like people to do. Do you tell people that you do this?
Starting point is 01:04:17 Like, could we, you know? If they say the exact words, hey, do you have a podcast? Okay, sure. Right? If people are talking about podcasts, I won't bring it up. Yeah. If only because everybody's got, literally everybody I know has a podcast.
Starting point is 01:04:30 See, no, but I don't move in your celebrity circles. That's true, yeah. Your celebrity jerk circles. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. That's what we call them. But yeah, a lot of people- You got time today for a celebrity jerk circle?
Starting point is 01:04:40 Is that, we're going to do that? But yeah, no, it's a lot of your friends have them, don't they? Yeah. So I don't like to so I don't like to I don't like to add to the conversation sure unless somebody's like hey do you have one
Starting point is 01:04:48 see whenever there's like a lot of my close friends know and then a lot of people I don't tell and then someone else will tell them and then I'll be like
Starting point is 01:04:56 no because then they listen to it and they're like oh it's very kind of it's very kind of geek central it's not really I'm like
Starting point is 01:05:01 it's not for you like now I feel weird that you know do you know what I mean and I'm like It's not for you Like now I feel weird That you know Do you know what I mean And I feel like The more people that I know That I know Yes
Starting point is 01:05:08 It diminishes how well I can do this Oh really Because I get paranoid About people Like any People You're like
Starting point is 01:05:13 Oh we were going to Talk about Spiderman But my friend Joey Really likes trucks So I better I better put in some References to trucks I guess
Starting point is 01:05:20 Yeah Like you put in a truck Like I need to think of this As this only goes Specifically to people who want it right who don't know me that is that's how I need to think of this
Starting point is 01:05:30 otherwise it all falls apart Mason yeah I understand yeah what do we read all that French you buy t-shirts though and wear them right please yes
Starting point is 01:05:37 yeah um actually this is also another email from uh Christian B hey James and Nick I have a question oh yes
Starting point is 01:05:44 obviously you two know about the Sony hack. Yes. Oh. He's been... I just read stuff off a cue. Yes. Like some cue cards phonetically. I don't even understand words.
Starting point is 01:05:56 My question is, if Sony gives the rights back to Marvel of Spider-Man, or if Sony reboots the franchise again, erg, who would you guys... Also, you have to mention something about trucks. Yes franchise again. Erg. Who would you guys... Also, you have to mention something about trucks. Yes.
Starting point is 01:06:06 Because Joe's listening. Who would you guys like to play Spidey? Love the show. Keep up the good work. Keep grabbing dem jams. P.S. If Mason leaves,
Starting point is 01:06:15 we riot. Oh, boy. There you go. I kind of would like to see that, I'll be honest with you. I'd like to see how much damage the listeners can do,
Starting point is 01:06:22 but all right, I'll stick around for now. Yeah. Maybe when we get a bigger listener base, then I'll quit, and then the right will quit. The bigger the right, the better. Yeah, absolutely. Okay, this might be kind of a revolutionary choice, but I'm going to say J.K. Simmons as Spider-Man. Right?
Starting point is 01:06:38 I would love that. Yep. Just an older Spider-Man, or is he in college? I reckon he's He's in No he's in high school Yep He's in high school But he's got a side job
Starting point is 01:06:49 Where he sells Photos of Spider-Man To the Daily Bugle To J. Jonah Jameson Who's also played by J.K. Simmons Yep Get me pictures of Spider-Man I'm getting you pictures of Spider-Man
Starting point is 01:07:02 Old man Shut it Good right I'd watch that Yeah Definitely That would make money man i'm getting your pictures of spider man old man shut it good right yeah definitely that would make money wouldn't it i'd probably pay money yeah i'd be the only one definitely would um a lot of people have talked about if they're going to reboot it why not go in like a miles morales kind of yes okay action yeah which Which I think is a better way, maybe not better, but it's an interesting way to do it.
Starting point is 01:07:27 To kind of say, this is completely separate. We know we've done this a few times. We're sorry. We're doing something a little bit different. So I know Donald Glover's name has been floated before. I feel he's a little too old now. He's probably too old now, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Which is weird, because like a couple of years ago, I'd have been like, yes, absolutely. And it's only been a couple of years. But I'd have been like, yes, absolutely. But, and it's only been a couple of years. Yeah. But I guess because he was playing like, in community, was playing a guy who was just out of high school.
Starting point is 01:07:51 And it made a lot of sense. Yeah, it did. Yeah, yeah. But I don't look, to be honest, I don't really have an actual actor in mind.
Starting point is 01:07:56 Jaden Smith. Willow Smith. I know people have talked about Josh Hutchinson from the Hunger Games. Uh-huh. I know, if they're going to do Teenage Spider-Man, I think they should cast Young
Starting point is 01:08:07 and go with somebody who's not incredibly well-known. Right, yeah, definitely. But also, Daxon is written in. He's actually the guy who kicked off the official thing. He said, can I be the official Spider-Man? And then we went, yes. How about this guy? I reckon this would work.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Who's that? Roshan Fegan. Okay. He's a Disney guy. He was in Camp Rock. Yeah, it's a good one. You don't know that for sure. But he's got that look.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Yeah, no. He's quite young Donald Glover. Yeah. And I guess Miles Morales is supposed to... He's half black and half Latino. Yeah. There's got to be tons of half Latino, half black actors out there. There's one.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Yep. This guy. What's his name? No, he's just black. Camp Rock. He's just regular. Oh, just straight up. Okay. Yeah. Yeah's one? Yep. This guy. What's his name? No, he's just black. Camp Rock. He's just regular. Oh, just straight up. Okay.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Yeah, no, sure. He's got the look. I think that would totally work. He's kind of nerdy. Yeah. It's pretty good. Do you think it would be if they did the Civil War aspect of it
Starting point is 01:08:56 and then they revealed Miles Morales' identity that would be as big a deal as if they did Peter Parker? That would be amazing. Yeah. But then we'd know because he's got the
Starting point is 01:09:04 Ultimate Spider-Man uniform. Yeah. That would be amazing. Yeah. I would tell, but then we'd know because he's got the, he's got the ultimate, he's got the ultimate Spider-Man uniform. Yeah. Yeah, good point. What if that was, I mean, you made it. See, well, see, we couldn't, we couldn't,
Starting point is 01:09:13 that couldn't work as a reveal. Like, if you were like, if they, if they got the rights back, and like, we're going to make Miles Morales the Spider-Man in, like, the Avengers. Yeah. And he, and they,
Starting point is 01:09:23 we saw set photos and he had the ultimate Spider-Man costume. Yeah. That And he, and they, we saw set photos and he had the ultimate Spider-Man costume. Yeah. That would, that would leak immediately. Like all Entertainment Weekly would be like, well,
Starting point is 01:09:30 this is obviously the, even if you didn't know. Yeah. Entertainment Weekly and all those people would be like, just so you know, this is Miles Morales, blah, blah,
Starting point is 01:09:38 blah. And it wouldn't be surprised to anyone. Yeah. So, yeah. I don't know. I don't think, I don't know if that could work,
Starting point is 01:09:42 but yeah, I would definitely, yeah. You'd buy that? I'd buy that what about the reveal it is J.K. Simmons oh so good
Starting point is 01:09:49 oh definitely get me pictures of myself he would say but anyway Daxon he wrote it he's a big Spider-Man fan he's an actor he loves everything about Spider-Man
Starting point is 01:10:00 he looks good in the suit we've seen him he's got a sweet Spider-Man suit and he asked to hashtag Daxon for Spidey so if you go to at the amazing Daxon and you think he's a good Spider-Man. He looks good in the suit. We've seen him. He's got a sweet Spider-Man suit. And he asked to hashtag Daxon for Spidey. So if you go to at the amazing Daxon and you think he's a good Spider-Man, maybe get on board for that. Okay.
Starting point is 01:10:10 I think he'd be a good Spider-Man. Maybe a good Miles Morales. Oh, yes. Going, you know, just mixing it up. I don't know. But yeah, I like all of that. Everything we said then. Yes.
Starting point is 01:10:21 Yes. We say some good things sometimes. Definitely. Hey, James and Mason greetings from the UK love the show though you guys keep making me laugh out loud
Starting point is 01:10:29 in the gym while I'm listening and I look like a mental like a mental like make me look mental also congratulations for going to the gym yes
Starting point is 01:10:35 very good actually there's a dude on Twitter sent me a picture and I don't go back to him where he's wearing a weekly planet t-shirt thing
Starting point is 01:10:42 and he's doing the working out and he's like enormous. He's like totes jacked. Oh, yes. Hang on, I'm going to find him right now. And he's sweating in our shirt. Yes.
Starting point is 01:10:52 How dare he? And I'd like to know if there's anybody who's more jacked. Yes. Just in the world. Yeah, no. Who's a fan of the show? I'd like to have some kind of jacked off competition. We've gone through who's the youngest listener,
Starting point is 01:11:05 who's the oldest listener. If we can get some updates on that. Yeah. Email in if you're the oldest, you think you're the oldest listener or the youngest listener. Yeah. Or email in if you think
Starting point is 01:11:14 you're the most jacked listener. Yeah. Or the most atrophied listener. This is David, he's underscore sexual Jesus. Oh, yep. Yep. Fan of, yep.
Starting point is 01:11:23 Jacked. Jacked as mate. Top notch. So yeah,. Yep. Yep. Jacked. Jacked as my top not. So yeah, that's pretty good. And also, uh, thank you to the person who sent me Austin Lee. You sent me the guy throwing a boomerang and hitting a fish out of the air.
Starting point is 01:11:35 Great. That's pretty good. Oh, and also Guido for that sweet Batman cartoon. That's really good. If Batman fought Superman. Oh, yeah. Great. Anyway, fought Superman. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:45 It's great. Anyway, greetings from the UK. All those things that I just said. Given your discussions on the last show, my friend and I came up with an idea for a show that I have named The Jeremy Renner Power Hour. Oh, yes. Where Jeremy Renner is digitally inserted
Starting point is 01:12:00 into films and TV shows, but only those that are loosely associated with his name. Some of the ones I've come up with are... The Maze Renner. That's on here. Okay, great. The Renning Man.
Starting point is 01:12:12 Oh, yes. Ren Fat Boy Ren. Oh, yes. The Reneway Bride. Two Ren and a baby. Two Ren and a little lady. Silent Renning. The A-Renges.
Starting point is 01:12:21 Cool Rennings. Renner and Stimpy. The Maze Renner. Blade Renner, RV, I'd say Blade Renner. Yeah. RV, Runaway Vacation, No Country for Old Ren, Ren Women and Children, The Hunt for Ren October, Ren T, oh yes, very good, Children of Ren, Captain A-Ren Ika, the Winter Soldier. Can you guys think of any more?
Starting point is 01:12:44 Planes, Trains and Jeremy Renner, the actor. All the best. That's from Tom Redhead. Although I don't... Titanic, but Jeremy Renner's there. That's from Tom Redhead, although he doesn't actually have red hair. Please can I be the official Brit playing an American superhero because Brits are better at acting off a podcast? Peeper, yes.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Insult. An insult for Mason in my native language. Please call Mason a massive bus wanker. Oh, that's pretty good. That's pretty good. That's an in-betweener shit right there. That's right up there with window liquor, I think, as an insult. What's a window liquor?
Starting point is 01:13:15 No, I don't want to talk about it. Okay. Thank you very much, Tom Redhead. Hey, fellas. This is from Colby. Just wondering what your thoughts were on the Target and K up okay continue came about decisions to stop selling grand theft five uh grand theft auto five do you think it was a mistake or was it justified this is just in australia just in australia also my brother and i would like to claim the official title of bill and ted of the
Starting point is 01:13:38 podcast thanks stay excellent and stay out of trouble i'm talking to you james from colby uh so for those who don't know i think everybody knows this grand theft auto 5 was pulled off the shelves at target the re-release the re-release sorry high def version um and it's still it's not banned in australia there has been some classification issues because there was no r18 rating for video games so there's a bunch of stuff that didn't come out that now has because the rating's now in like mortal kombat 9 and a bunch of other stuff right the only reason this has been pulled is because people know what Grand Theft Auto is. There are way worse games, all games that are equally bad. Saints Row.
Starting point is 01:14:11 Is that worse? You're just hitting people with like big dicks and stuff, isn't it? I guess, yeah, I guess so, yeah. I don't know. Look, I'm not saying worse, but like there's a lot of games that... There was an AL probe gun in the last Saints Row. Yes. Or the one prior to that, and that was taken out, I think.
Starting point is 01:14:24 Oh, okay, sure. Yeah. But like, even like your Call of Duty, like there's a lot of shooting people in the last saints road yes or the one prior to that and that was taken out i think okay sure yeah but like even like your call of duty like there's a lot of shooting people in the face there's one one of the recent i think it's one of the modern warfare's there's an optional intro scene where you're in a team of terrorists oh like assaulting uh an airport oh okay right you just kill innocent people yeah you can just you can just you're like undercover i think yeah and you can just kind of you can not do anything and just watch it unfold or you can actually kill people okay yeah what i know um i don't think it matters to be honest look i think yeah i mean rockstar do a lot of it's rockstar right yeah they do they've been doing this for years just to drum up attention yeah i feel um the the the issue that is concerned is that you can like kill a sex worker yeah isn't that i think that was the main thing yeah um i think they should probably take that out at this
Starting point is 01:15:17 point i think oh do you think the games don't need it anymore yeah i mean it's a bit archaic the i mean the idea obviously in grand Auto games, you can kill anyone. Yeah. And if you buy... Like, it's an R18 plus rated game. Children shouldn't be buying it. Like, people under 18. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:34 And if you're a parent and you're thinking about it, like, buying the game, you should do your research first because it's R18. It's a video game. You should look into it. It's like taking your kid to see an r18 movie sure maybe look into that and see what the why that why the rating's been given and why yeah you know uh and if that's appropriate for your child in particular yeah yeah like uh it's a thorny issue isn't it it is look i don't think it's not going to affect sales
Starting point is 01:16:02 you really i think it's just like you can still get an eb or whatever exactly and it works i think it works for both right like for both target and kmart look good in the eyes of like conservative consumers yep and people who love grand theft auto can be a little bit outraged and then and also promotes the game right so i don't really think it does anything yeah i think the issue too is that like again in grand theft auto you can kill literally anyone yeah and again if you are a parent buying this game for your child and the first thing they do is start going around killing women and sex workers maybe you haven't talked to your kid about that yes you know yeah um and obviously like game wise you can't you can't have everybody killable except a certain class of people in the game that would
Starting point is 01:16:46 be odd yeah but just saying maybe just remove that element entirely just remove that element why do you need like i understand it's a full you know it's a it's a fully realized world yeah and in a fully realized world you can have sex with sex workers if you want uh but yeah maybe maybe yeah maybe take there's enough to do in those games. Yeah. Then just take it out. Yeah. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:17:13 And again, I think it is also an issue of like... Video games are like an actual... They're artistic expression now. It's not just, hey, you've got a little spaceship and you're shooting it around or whatever. People have put a huge amount of work into this and you shouldn't be banning things just because there's an element of it that you don't like but yeah, I think
Starting point is 01:17:32 little on the nose little on the nose, yeah I think at this point GTA's a big enough franchise that it's not going to kill sales if they take out the killing sex workers issue part of it, you know? you're right alright, hey guys, how's not going to kill sales if they take out the killing sex workers issue. No. You know? You're right. Yeah. You're right.
Starting point is 01:17:46 All right. Hey, guys. How's it going? My name is... Now, let's pronounce our names before the show. J-U-N. How do you pronounce it? I say Jun. Jun.
Starting point is 01:17:53 Okay. And I've been listening to your podcast for a few months now and I'm absolutely loving it. Loving it so much, I've listened to the music for so long. I haven't listened to music in so long because I just listen to your podcast instead. One day, I was listening to an episode on the bus
Starting point is 01:18:04 on my way to school and I saw this girl walk in and I would say she was about an 8 out of 10. Sweet. Somehow, as I was turning my head and looking right at the girl at about.1 Women are more than a set of numbers, but alright, continue.
Starting point is 01:18:18 Mason happened to make me laugh at some lame joke that got me laughing for some reason and then the girl saw me laughing she now so now I look like some random dick who looked at this girl and started laughing at how she looked thanks Mason no problem that's what I'm here for
Starting point is 01:18:34 actually said don't say you're welcome prick though you didn't say you said you said don't say you're welcome you're very welcome that's all I got thanks for the great entertainment, guys. Keep up the good work. Two hearts.
Starting point is 01:18:47 P.S. Can I be the official half-Japanese, half-New Zealander that got cock-blocked by Mason of the podcast? I guess so. All right, fine. I mean, I think we have one already. Yeah, you've heard it. Yeah. Okay, next week, Mason will do something else, won't he?
Starting point is 01:19:00 That's the show. He sure will. We'll probably talk about The Hobbit and the best movies of the year that we liked oh yes we haven't seen everything have we well I haven't seen
Starting point is 01:19:07 The Hobbit yet so I'm assuming that's going to be my best movie of the year yes actually I got this from Thomas from Dublin alright lads
Starting point is 01:19:14 here's my review of The Hobbit long winded boring shite don't bother talking at length about it regards
Starting point is 01:19:19 Thomas Dublin fantastic from Dublin or Thomas Dublin so yeah also I announced this on my YouTube channel the t-shirt winners. If you're a Patreon member, you could win a t-shirt.
Starting point is 01:19:29 And the winners were Kyle and Rebecca. I'll reach out to you and stuff, or you can reach out to me, whatever happens first. And we'll get you some sweet teas. Oh, yeah. So, yeah. But thank you to everybody. We'd like to give one to everybody. What if they're like, hey, we actually don't want Wheatly Planet teas.
Starting point is 01:19:42 Can you buy us something else? Can you just buy us some nice American apparel? Sure. Yeah, that's fine. I'm okay with that. To the value of. Oh, sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:51 So that's that. Thank you to the Britain Ambassador for the themes. Absolutely. What else? They can find us at Weekly Planet Pod on Facebook, Gmail, Twitter. Thank you again for all the emails. We get literally a lot a week and I'm sorry we can't read out everything.
Starting point is 01:20:07 It stresses me out. It fucking stresses me right out. Everything stresses you out. It does stress me out. No, I'm a pretty chill dude, man. Yeah, you're a chill dude. Okay. Also, Ross H. says,
Starting point is 01:20:20 I broke the podcast last week by me getting the last buy-in and I should apologize. Because at the end of the show, I think me getting the last buy-in, and I should apologize. Because at the end of the show, I think I said the last buy. So I apologize. I know that's your thing. That's what you're known for most on this show. That's what you bring.
Starting point is 01:20:33 I bring saying the last word, one syllable. So that will not happen again. Not intentionally. It also says, call his friend Ryan a dickhead. You're a dickhead, Ryan. We don't know you, but you're probably a dickhead. Probably. I mean, statistically speaking, you probably
Starting point is 01:20:46 are. Alright. Thanks, guys. Bye.

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