The Weekly Planet - Spider-Man: Homecoming - Caravan Of Garbage

Episode Date: February 1, 2024

After the cinematic lows of The Amazing Spider-Man series it was time for another Spider-Man reboot, this time by folding him into the MCU. After his first apperance as Peter Park in Captain America:... Civil War, Tom Holland got his own (sort of) movie dealing with the trials and tribulations of being a high school superhero. Going up against Michael Keaton's Vulture and his terrible surrogate dad in Tony Stark/Iron Man the film did a great job at youthifying the franchise and taking the character in a new direction. Which some people like and some people don't. Thanks for watching our Caravan Of Garbage reviewSUBSCRIBE HERE ►► http://goo.gl/pQ39jNHelp support the show and get early episodes ► https://bigsandwich.co/Patreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesJames' Twitter ► http://twitter.com/mrsundaymoviesMaso's Twitter ► http://twitter.com/wikipediabrownPatreon ► https://patreon.com/mrsundaymoviesT-Shirts/Merch ► https://www.teepublic.com/stores/mr-sunday-movies The Weekly Planet iTunes ► https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-planet/id718158767?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4 The Weekly Planet Direct Download ► https://play.acast.com/s/theweeklyplanetAmazon Affiliate Link ► https://amzn.to/2nc12P4 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:35 Visit heartandstroke.ca. Welcome back, everybody, to another year of Caravan of Garbage. Whoa, we're back. Whoa. 2024 energy. We're recording this right at the end Garbage. Whoa, we're back. Whoa. 2024 energy. We're recording this right at the end of 2020. Oh, Mason, I can't. We're faking having New Year's energy.
Starting point is 00:00:51 But FYI, I wouldn't have any because I worked the whole way through the New Year's. I'm tired now. I was tired then. I'm going to put all this in the extended one to see if people notice. Good, great, yeah. Perfect. But as far as the YouTube viewers know, whoa, we're back. 2024, great, yeah. Perfect. But as far as the YouTube viewers know, whoa, we're back, 2024, baby, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Better than ever, rested well. That's right. I didn't go on a holiday and then it was, you know, you're with your kids, it's not that... It's not that restful. It's not really holiday. But you love them. I do love them, Mason.
Starting point is 00:01:18 You wouldn't chuck them in a bin. I definitely wouldn't. You wouldn't chuck them in a backpack and then web them to a bin, would you? Unlikely. Anyway, so we thought we'd kick things off, seeing as Spum, you know, it's moving into gear this year, isn't it? Do we have to explain what Spum is? Yes.
Starting point is 00:01:34 The Sony Pictures universe of Marvel movies. I mean, we call it Spum. They call it something else. Yeah. It may not even exist by the time this video comes out. They may have cancelled it all. I don't know. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:01:44 But Madam Web is coming out. Yep. What else is coming out? We've got Kraven the Hunter. Kraven the Hunter. Maybe another Venom movie. Venom 3. Wow. So we thought, seeing as we've done the Sam Raimi Spider-Man trilogy and we've done the Mark Webb Amazing Spider-Man duology.
Starting point is 00:02:00 I was going to say duopoly. It was supposed to be a trilogy. Oh. They just went, we can't. Yeah, look, we did basically three movies worth of stuff in that last one. So why don't we circle back to the John Watts Spider-Man movies? Ooh. But how did we get here? This room.
Starting point is 00:02:16 I walked in. No, how did we get to Spider-Man movies? These ones in particular. What do you mean? Okay. First of all, leave a like. Okay. Then we'll reveal the secrets.
Starting point is 00:02:25 How did we get here in terms of licensing? Some of this we've covered, so I'm just going to quickly go through it. Okay, let's do it. So in 1998, the Wall Street Journal reported that Marvel proposed to sell their film rights to nearly its entire roster, so Iron Man, Black Panther, Thor, for $25 million to Sony. Okay. And Sony went, we don't give a shit. We'll take Spider-Man for $7 million and Sony. Okay. And Sony went, we don't give a shit. We'll take Spider-Man for $7 million and that's it.
Starting point is 00:02:49 And this back in the day, this is the era where Marvel was going bankrupt every other week. And so they're like, we'll take that deal. We'll take whatever terrible deal any film studio is offering. Now it's easy in hindsight to say, sure, this franchise is worth now X number of billion dollars. But Sony couldn't have built this anyway. If they had all of these properties.
Starting point is 00:03:10 The MCU, no, absolutely not, no. Not a chance. I mean, it would have been nice to see Tom Cruise as Iron Man with like a big motorcycle crash helmet kind of vibe, you know, just a weird bulky look. Oh, yeah. Unpleasant. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:03:22 So we got the Sam Raimi trilogy, and then they rebooted with the Mark Webb duopoly, and Marvel came to them and proposed an idea. Let's get married. Pretty much. Wow. Let's have a civil ceremony. Nothing religious.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Oh, yeah. Okay, sure. This won't be recognized under the eyes of God. So they said, why don't we have Spider-Man appear in several MCU films, right? The Oscorp Tower was even going to be the one from the Mark Webb movies in the several MCU films, right? The Oscorp Tower was even going to be the one from the Mark Webb movies in the Avengers movie originally, right? Didn't end up happening.
Starting point is 00:03:50 It was them and the Avengers Tower. They were going to throw spitballs at each other. That's right. Get out of my block. Get out of here. So this was rejected by Sony. They said, no, thank you. We're actually killing Spider-Man right now. Killing it with Spider-Man, sorry. Oh, sure, sure, sure. Bit of a slip of the tongue there, Mason. Anyway, they killing Spider-Man right now. Killing it with Spider-Man, sorry. Oh, sure, sure, sure. Bit of a slip of the tongue there, Mason. Anyway, they killed Spider-Man with The Amazing Spider-Man 2.
Starting point is 00:04:10 The Sony hack happened. A bunch of stuff was released about how they were doing all these spin-off movies, including an Aunt May prequel spy movie. That's right. Sexy Aunt May spy. Yeah. Basically all the stuff that they're doing now. Yeah, the leftover stuff.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Yeah. Hey, there's been a lot of years and a lot of people have made fun of all this stuff, they're doing now. Yeah, the leftover stuff. Yeah. Hey, there's been a lot of years and a lot of people have made fun of all this stuff, but it's all we have left. Pretty much. Let's just do it, I guess. So a new deal was formed where Marvel would collect 5% of the gross of all the MCU-produced Spider-Man films. Totally 5%.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Well, that was the original deal. It changed again a few years back. And in return, Disney and Marvel Studios would be allowed to use Spider-Man in their films. But also, this is a great deal for Marvel in general because Marvel already have the rights to merch and they can use him in animated series and all of that. It's basically Sony only have the live action film and maybe some television distribution rights. Okay, sure, sure. And the original contract was for five movies. It was Captain America Civil War, which we'll come back to at some point. television distribution rights. Okay, sure, sure. And the original contract was for five movies.
Starting point is 00:05:07 It was Captain America Civil War, which we'll come back to at some point. This movie we're looking at today, Infinity War, Endgame, Spider-Man Far From Home. I see. And that's how we got little boy Tom Holland's Spider-Man. The youngest Spider-Man who we've ever seen on screen. An actual teenager at time of casting. That's right. If you can believe such a thing. He's since become a big real man.
Starting point is 00:05:26 He's Nathan Drake now. He's a big real man. He's a big real man wearing a Henley. You know, you can't be a little boy in a Henley. Yeah, they won't let you. You're going to burst out of the Henley. I was going to say biceps. They're in the wrong bit.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Your pecs. Chest steps. Your chest steps bursting out there. Anyway, I think Tom Holland is a really good Peter Parker slash Spider-Man. I agree. One of the things that this movie does really good Peter Parker slash Spider-Man. I agree. One of the things that this movie does really well is that it replicates the youthful energy of a high school by using actual teenagers in the school.
Starting point is 00:05:53 That's right. They went out of their way to go, let's base this on kind of a John Hughes 1980s high school kind of dynamic. A breakfast club. Yeah. A 16 candles. Exactly. Another one probably.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Planes, trains and automobiles. Same vibe. And that's kind of the thing that Marvel aims for or says that they're doing. They're like, the Winter Soldier is like our espionage one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Skrull invasion one, that's like our espionage one. That's right.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Another one is like our espionage one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're going hardcore on the espionage ones, I'll tell you what. They certainly are. And it always works. It always worked every time. but how do you feel about tom holland in this role and just the vibe of this in general it's a good vibe i'm liking him in this i think this this is maybe the i think the the first two we'll get to the other two in subsequent weeks but i think the first two have like the strongest the strongest concept let's make it like that high
Starting point is 00:06:42 school kind of teen comedy vibe. We get all the markers of the teen comedy vibe. You know, we've got a, he has to go to a party and, you know, nobody thinks he's cool but he's got to prove himself. But all the circumstances, you know, conspire against him so he can't show off and be cool as Spider-Man at the party. And, you know, and he's got a bully who in this instance,
Starting point is 00:07:03 it's Tony Revolori who most people might know from the from the TV series Willow is he yeah yeah okay great you know that terrific you know and and and that's that's a canny idea to make this version of Flash Thompson kind of uh just a more of a psychological bully yeah because at this point this version of Spider-Man he's had a full-on fistfight with Captain America yeah. So there's no high school bully that could stand up to him physically, like not even like Flash Thompson in the first movie, you know, kind of thing. Exactly, yeah. You just paste him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:32 So, yeah, that idea that, you know, he can wear him down by calling in Nate. So, yeah, that idea that he could – so, yeah, the idea that they could – fuck me. Mason, it's 2023. It's whatever year it is. Yeah, that idea that he could kind of wear him down psychologically is interesting. Yeah, I like that a lot.
Starting point is 00:07:50 And maybe he'll become a version of Venom or something at some point, do you think? I'd say probably not. No, probably not. Yeah, yeah. I like him, though. I think he's good. Now, there's been criticisms of this movie in that,
Starting point is 00:08:00 well, I think this trilogy in general, that this isn't so much Spider-Man as it is Iron Boy. Oh, absolutely, yeah. Yeah, and I can't really argue with that. It's just a different take, you know? Yeah, and I think, again, we'll talk about it in subsequent movies, you know, at least in the next one, it's Spider-Man on his own. In the comic books, it doesn't really matter, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:20 where the villains come from. It's just a guy who wants to rob banks. He also has built a flight suit or whatever. It it's really irrelevant because that's the kind of the the two-dimensional world they live in and obviously this is the movie you can't do that it's the mcu three three dimensional at least yeah maybe you're in d box maybe you're in smell-o-vision i don't know i don't know where you go to them you're freaky movies what are those webs smell like that's exactly right so in this so in this universe you in this universe, you need to build a reason why this guy would be a high-tech costumed villain kind of thing. And I enjoy this guy's backstory.
Starting point is 00:08:54 And I, sure, he's putting high-tech deadly weapons onto the streets, but also I agree with him. He's right. He's right. He's a man who worked hard started his own business and then a bigger fish just showed up and just just just took everything this is mine so i understand his grievances and i'm on his side yeah but the problem there is because he's that he's so intrinsically tied to iron man it's just spider-man in this instance fighting an iron man villain that iron man couldn't be bothered fighting yeah he's not
Starting point is 00:09:25 big enough to be on his radar there's no point in this where it's like well i can't i'm i cannot help you i'm so busy because he cannot iron man can operate everything via remote control yep he's got those ferry holder together rockets yep they presumably have other purposes couldn't he just put like one of his iron man drones couldn't he just get friday to pilot one show up at his headquarters and blow him up yep You know, extra judicially just because he's a rich guy and he can get away with it. But instead he's just like, nah, you handle this.
Starting point is 00:09:51 What I love about this is that Tony Stark is just, he's such a dog. And we talked about this when we covered the Iron Man trilogy. This isn't me saying, oh, they wrote this character wrong. He's accidentally terrible. I just think he's terrible. He's the worst mentor. The suit's great, by the way.
Starting point is 00:10:07 I love this. And just the idea that, you know, he should have been keeping Peter Parker in the loop because Peter Parker's going to him and going, look, this guy's selling all these weapons. I'm pretty sure I know who it is. He's got to be at the ferry at this time. One text back.
Starting point is 00:10:21 I've got it. I contacted the FBI. Don't worry about it. I've looked at the weapons they have, and I reckon if one of them got dinged accidentally, it would cut the ferry in half. So maybe leave it. We'll see a Spider-Man and the ferry's in the middle of the water.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Yeah. I can fly, and I've got those ferry holder together rockets. Exactly. And then he gives him an absolute kind of drilling and he goes i was the only one that believed in you which is an insane thing to say to a 15 year old child also you involved him in this you brought him in you're the only one who believed in it because you thought bringing a 15 year old to a german airport to beat up captain america was a good idea and the idea that look i'm going to take this suit off you
Starting point is 00:11:05 because if you're nothing without the suit, then you shouldn't have it. That's you also. I know Iron Man 3 makes a point of being like, oh, he can do things without the suit. But not really. He couldn't beat Thanos without a suit, could he? Absolutely not, no. He couldn't even beat Whiplash without a suit.
Starting point is 00:11:20 That's right. And he's Russian and exposed. That's right. How do you feel about the Spider-Man suit, though? I love it. A bit slick? Because they kind of slick it over with some CGI-ms? I mean, look, my nitpicks are minor.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Yeah. I think, you know, having, you know, in the last couple of years re-watched the Raimi Spider-Man movies, that suit sort of still reigns supreme to me. I like this version. Some of the nitpicks, it looks a little too high-tech for me. Yeah. But that, I mean, that is sort of... It's the Iron Man.
Starting point is 00:11:49 It's the Iron Man influence. I don't like the fact that there's blue and black in the suit. Pick one. Oh, yeah. Pick one. Yeah. I think blue. Probably should be blue.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Yeah. I think also the idea that he has all these gadgets from the get-go, it's kind of too much, and that's kind of part of this story as well. And in the comics, he does have all these gadgets, but it takes him 60 years to get there you know and it's just at the start it's like you've got a drone and an intimidation thing and i don't know like a holograph laser machine and everything else yeah also i think they didn't intend for this to happen i don't think but you know obviously the the idea is he's overwhelmed by all the stuff and he doesn't really need the stuff he's just you know it's just t Stark overcompensating, filling everything with gadgets.
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Starting point is 00:13:52 I left the theatre thinking, oh, well, this is just a plain Spider-Man suit. It's not filled with gadgets. It's just a regular suit. So that's not even his original suit that he was given? Is that, like, an upgraded one, do you think? No, I think that's the original suit. Okay, right right oh yeah but but i think it's sort of set the precedent that spider-man suit is filled with gimmicks and gadgets and what have you so when we went into infinity war end game etc it's still insanely filled with gadgets and then it's kind of like well that sort of takes away from yeah the idea that he's just a guy on his own a friendly neighborhood
Starting point is 00:14:24 spider-man you know what I mean? And we'll circle back around to this when we talk about the third one, but yeah, I think that is going to be the direction they're going in moving forward. Unless they've got toys to sell. And they wouldn't have that, would they? No, I don't think so. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:14:36 We're being kind of negative, but I like this. I really enjoy it. This is a really fun... It might be the best of the three. Yeah, I like all the school dynamics. I like all the school weirdos, just the background weirdos. Chess. The chess guys, the academic decathlon guys, all the weirdos.
Starting point is 00:14:52 I enjoy Zendaya just being in most scenes in the background doing weird stuff. James, when do you think Tom Holland and Zendaya fell in love for the first time? Do you think it was this movie? I think it was subsequent movies. I think it was probably on the set of Uncharted. That's when they really fell in love because he was a man. Oh, yeah. She saw him bursting out of the handling.
Starting point is 00:15:10 I don't know. I haven't kept track of them. No, neither have I. But good luck to them. God bless them. I think also Michael Keaton is just really terrific in this. I agree, yeah. And I love this version of the Vulture being a terrifying metal nightmare.
Starting point is 00:15:24 I enjoy the Spider-Man villains the most that aren't just him, like a variation on, and yeah, Venom, Carnage, whatever. But an idea that this thing, whatever it is, and I feel the same about Doc Ock, it can counter all the things that he does in a way that's, you know, he's not entirely used to. He can't fight a giant flying bird, man. That's difficult and weird. I mean, he does. He does, it's true. But it takes him a giant flying bird, man. That's difficult and weird.
Starting point is 00:15:45 I mean, he does. He does, it's true. But it takes him a few goes, you know? That's right, exactly. And what I like about this is there is that personal animus. People are always going to be like, when is Tom Holland's Spider-Man going to fight Tom Hardy Venom? It doesn't matter because they've got no connection whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Whereas in the comic books, entire venom's entire origin and his entire reason for being is an intense hatred of spider-man because of their shared history whereas if they ever appear in a movie together they'll have to make something up i guess yeah but in this it's like these two have a complicated relationship spider-man is constantly foiling the vulture's schemes and so the vulture is furious about that. But he also has a family that he loves and that's why he's doing it. He's not just doing it for cackling villainous reasons. But then Spider-Man saves his daughter's life
Starting point is 00:16:33 and then he's like, well, I'll give you one chance to walk away. I'm like, that's interesting. That's good stuff. It's complicated. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's a shame now that he's trapped in a parallel universe.
Starting point is 00:16:42 With Morbius. With Morbius. An infinite distance from the family that he loves and he'll do anything for. And he's just like, well, better form a supervillain team, I guess, of good guys. I don't know. My family can sort themselves out, I guess.
Starting point is 00:16:55 I don't know. And I guess he built the vulture suit over there again, didn't he? Maybe. Or there was a vulture there already and he just took it. I don't know. He found it in the vault. He found it in the you found in the vault found in the oscorp vault origins you remember that yeah i suspected and they'll probably mention this at some point maybe even with madame webb that all of that stuff might be in the mark webb
Starting point is 00:17:16 spider-man universe they could just be like this is andrew garfield's problem sure the actor andrew garfield so he has to feel i'm not equipped to deal with this. I'm British. Just make him field questions about the Morbius universe for the rest of his life. Oh, I had a note here about the Spider-Man suit that I didn't write down, that I didn't say earlier. Final note about the suit.
Starting point is 00:17:37 I wish it stayed baggy all the time. Yeah. Just a big loose. He puts it on in the alley and he pushes the button and it shrink wraps him. Yeah. Just have it not work. It's got to fight all the villains baggy.
Starting point is 00:17:49 I think that would be fun. Fighting them baggy, yeah. The action sequences I enjoy in this, we mentioned the ferry, the punch-up that they have at the end. I think the swinging isn't great. I think that's also to do with the locations. It's not a big inner city situation. You're not getting those big New York skyscraper kind of moments.
Starting point is 00:18:04 But we did get a moment which I really enjoyed, which is the moment where he has to navigate his way through the suburbs. I thought that was a fun little, you know, and I think that also speaks to the kind of the John Hughes-ness of it, just like these kind of comfortable little cosy suburbs and how does a, we finally learn how a Spider-Man navigates through those, which is he has to just do a lot of running
Starting point is 00:18:24 because there's nothing they want to. Crashing through fences. That's a bit of fun, right? Yeah, no, it is. It's very, and you actually see this moment in this Ferris Bueller running home to his, you know, after, to his family or whatever going on. But I was going to say also, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:36 what we do get, I think, is we get moments that are spectacular. You know, there's the part where he kind of leaps off. Is it the Washington Monument? Yeah, yeah. The Washington Monument, we see it from all the great angles and etc but i think i think the problem with this movie and maybe a lot of modern marvel movies is that it's it's it's sort of it's sort
Starting point is 00:18:55 of workmanlike direction yeah it's like we need a couple of spectacular moments for the trailer just get that was in the trailer just to get us there and and the rest can be just fine really you know absolutely we don't have time we don't have time we've got to do we've got to film most of this and then we're going to give it to the vfx guys yeah to they can figure it out exactly uh just a few fun little cameos or appearances that i enjoy hannibal burris is great a lot of fun where he's like captain america he's i think is a war criminal now, but I guess we're still using this VHS or whatever. Martin Starr as Roba Harrington. Is that his name? Yep.
Starting point is 00:19:30 He returns from The Incredible Hulk. Same character. Jennifer Connelly who's married to Paul Bettany, the voice of Jarvis, is the voice of Spider-Man's suit in this. There you go. So maybe those AIs can get married. No they can't. He's already married. Jarvis is already married.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Wow. Donald Glover, great. He turns up in another universe. A setup to maybe make him the Prowler, except not really. Who knows? Well, he is in the Spider-Verse universe, if it's the same guy. And of course, Chris Evans is mentioned in his fun little cameos. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:00 So should we do some trivia? Let's do some trivia. Specifically, Spider-Man trivia coming. That's what we're calling it. Great. That's what you said you wanted to call it. I know. And that's what we're going to call it.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Great. Because it sounds a bit weird and rude. It does. So for the Lego Death Star they're building, they say that it has 3,803 pieces, which is correct. But the Emperor figure that they have is from the 2016 version. And the 3,803 piece version is from the 2008 version of the death star now that's some trivia yeah here's a question i have for you in mcu spider-man's first appearance yeah captain
Starting point is 00:20:31 america civil war he lassos ant-man atat walkers on hoth style yeah and he says he saw it in some old movie he doesn't really remember right but in this movie he's very excited for star wars lego death star so in the subsequent like couple of, did he get really into Star Wars? He got in the head. Was Star Wars not hugely popular in the MCU on account of all the superheroes taking the limelight? And maybe it's had a resurgence? Maybe, yeah. Since then, maybe?
Starting point is 00:20:58 Maybe what I think happened is, it's only a few months in between, by the way. Or do you think it's maybe that Disney bought Marvel and they also own Star Wars and they wanted a little synergy? I don't think it's that. Oh, okay. I think that maybe he hasn't seen Empire Strikes Back because this is the return of the Jedi Death Star. So he's only seen Return of the Jedi and he's so jazzed. Wow.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Kenneth Choi, who plays Principal Morita, also played the Howling Commando Jim Morita in Captain America The First Avenger. You can actually see the photo of that Howling Commando Jim Morita in Captain America the First Avenger. You can actually see the photo of that Howling Commando member on his desk because it's his grandson. That's nice. Yeah. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:21:31 He's the grandson, not the other way around. According to James Gunn, Stan Lee's cameo in this film was one of the four Lee cameos filmed in one day alongside his appearance in Doctor Strange, Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2 and another one. Huh. Maybe a Thor movie. I don't know. And Gwyneth Paltrow, who appears in this movie, she thought that she was shooting a scene for the Avengers,
Starting point is 00:21:51 and it wasn't until a few years later that she found out that she was in this film. I don't know if you've seen that interview. I have, yeah. I don't think she knows if she's in any of these movies, honestly. But I do enjoy that, where people go and they ask her, like, what do you think of this? And she's like, yeah. Did I? enjoy that where people go and they ask her like what do you think of this? And she's like yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Did I? What is it? Should I? But this was right in that era where they were doing so many of these and everybody had to do a cameo in everybody else's movie.
Starting point is 00:22:14 And they were separated during Civil War and now they're not. Like it was a complicated time to be Gwyneth Paltrow. That's right. Probably one of them was dating the AI
Starting point is 00:22:23 in the other guy's suit or something. Oh my God. You know? Anyways, in terms of box office, on a budget of $175 million, it made $880 million. This was a return to form. This is what Sony was looking for in a Spider-Man movie. And by Jove did they get it.
Starting point is 00:22:39 By Jove? I mean... We're bringing back by Jove, are we? We're bringing it back. It's 2024, Mason. Yeah, I think obviously Civil War helped. But yeah, people were interested in Spider-Man again. And, you know, these movies, box office wise, continue to do well over the next few years.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Because, of course, we are going to be coming back next week to talk about Spider-Man Big Euro Boy. That's right. You know? Yeah, it's Euro disco time for Spider-Man. If you don't want to say that early, you can actually head over to BigSandwich.co. That's like our private Patreon, isn't it, Mason? Yes. It's Euro disco time for Spider-Man. If you don't want to say that early, you can actually head over to BigSandwich.co. That's like our private Patreon, isn't it, Mason? Yes. It's true.
Starting point is 00:23:09 2024, it's true. It's got early videos. We've got movie commentaries. We do video game Let's Plays. Our podcast, The Weekly Planet, where we talk movies and comics and TV shows, that actually comes out there early on Sunday as opposed to Monday. But if you do want to check out that podcast, it's got its own YouTube channel, Spotify, Apple, all of those things.
Starting point is 00:23:26 That's right. I had a couple of thoughts about the cast. Let's talk about the cast. I'll put it in earlier. Put it in earlier. Or now, whatever. Well, I was just going to say, you know, I thought Laura Harrier was great as Liz Allen. I thought she did a great job.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Yep. Marissa Tomei, obviously. Yuck, Aunt May. Absolutely yuck, Aunt May. Disgusting. What were they thinking? Yuck. Ugh.
Starting point is 00:23:46 I mean, we know Aunt May's supposed to be an old hag. Yeah. But you didn't have to go as far as you did. You don't need to lean into it this hard. God. And Jacob Batalon as the man in the chair. Oh, he's fine, isn't he? The problem with this is he's Ned, obviously. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:56 What they've done is they've just taken Miles Morales' best friend, Ganky, from the Ultimate Spider-Man universe. They Yankied him into this. They gave Ganky a Yanky and they the ultimate spider-man universe they yankied him they yankied him into this they gave ganky a yanky and they put him into this which means that when miles morales inevitably makes his debut as spider-man in this universe if that is going to happen before the reboot who knows they're going to need to give him a new best friend oh yeah who's it going to be ned leads again great i'm back in school that's great yeah billy madison style that's great yeah yeah or every universe has a ned yeah parallel universe neds do you think they're going to do parallel
Starting point is 00:24:32 universe miles morales or they're just going to have him here because he's mentioned in this in passing that's true yeah i think they're probably just going to put him in i think i think just simpler yeah it's simpler and i think maybe the world has has uh has had its fill of multiversal It's simpler. Yeah, it's simpler, and I think maybe the world has had its fill of multiversal. You ain't wrong, brother. Adventures. Exactly. We're tired.
Starting point is 00:24:48 It's 2024. We're tired of the multiverse. Just give us one universe to worry about, will you? Exactly. God. Oh, and Jon Favreau. Of course. He's great.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Just having a good time. He's having a good time. Again, you know, maybe he should pass along more of those messages to Tony Stark. But he's fun. He's busy. Yeah, exactly. He's got to move all of Thor's stuff or whatever he's doing. He's angry and he's useless.
Starting point is 00:25:12 And I love that about him. Yeah, me too. Anyways, thank you so much for watching. Thank you to Ben and Lawrence for coming back for another year. They didn't want to. They swore they wouldn't. But then we said, how about we make these edits really difficult? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:24 And they said, said good a challenge that's what we love how could you turn down an offer like that that's right alright thanks everybody grab that jam you guys we'll see you next week
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