This Paranormal Life - #314 The REAL Story Behind Annabelle the Cursed Doll

Episode Date: May 9, 2023

While many of us have heard about "Annabelle, the cursed doll" from the popular 2014 horror movie, few know that the film is actually based on a REAL story that dates all the way back to the 1970's. Imagine being so EVIL that they base an entire horror franchise off of you. What's next? a horror trilogy about my ex wife Susan? Now THERE'S a movie that'll scare you to death. it's got a run time of 15 years and ends abruptly with no resolution. Enjoy the podcast or whatever.Follow us on Twitter, Instagram, and YouTubeJoin our Secret Society Facebook CommunitySupport us on Patreon.com/ThisParanormalLife to get access to weekly bonus episodes!Buy Official TPL Merch! - thisparanormallife.com/storeIntro music by www.purple-planet.comResearch by Amy GrisdaleEdited by Philip Shacklady Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Does the devil watch me sleep like Santa Claus and Jesus can? Do flea markets really sell fleas? All these questions you can find the answer to on This Paranormal Life! Hello everyone and welcome to This Paranormal Life, the comedy paranormal podcast where every week we investigate a brand new case, claim, beast, creature, tale, story, ghost, poltergeist, and come to a conclusion at the end as to whether or not that thing, that story, really is true or really is false. My name is Rory Powers, professional paranormal investigator. I'm joined, of course, by my paranormal pal, Kit Greer. Thank you. Glad to be here be here rory how exciting um you know sometimes i

forget that people tuning in listening to this paranormal life this might actually be their first episode this might be the first episode they listen to uh some people have been listening for years but uh if you haven't been here before jog on no no no we need to be very we didn't need you at the start we don't need you now we just kind of f*** off right bad attitude because we're we are trying to grow the listeners and grow the podcast always so you know i want to be welcoming and i want to like we don't want to have too many in jokes that go over their heads we don't want to have too much uh stuff that's not explained so sure in the interest of saying hello welcome to the show the job of a paranormal investigator like me and rory uh we investigate the paranormal i think that's all covered yeah uh and we so and the paranormal uh that is ghosts as rory said that

is ghouls again i think this is stuff that probably they do know about even if they haven't but like okay so a podcast this is unnecessary weekly not always weekly 60 minute not always but sometimes and sometimes a little over sometimes a little under you keep being really specific and then having to correct yourself because you were way too specific so let's just yeah okay I think just move forward

I think a lot of people know probably what a ghost is if they have downloaded the podcast well now you mention it we should probably explain that too so when someone dies when they love each other when two people love each other very much

and they die they come back as kind of see through if you've ever seen Casper well it's not exactly like Casper. Okay, we need to stop this. Our baby's made. I don't know that one yet.

I'll go back to letting you host. No, I'm so excited to be here and hosting a brand new episode of This Paranormal Life. Kit, we were supposed to record this episode yesterday, but your flight to London was delayed. So we ended up having to push it back a day. Yeah, the MIBs were trying to keep me away from the microphone. All I'm going to say is thank God in heaven

that your flight was delayed because yesterday I was maybe the most hungover I have been in years. It was bad. For me to say that. Which is saying a lot. Oh my God. because rory saying that is like michael jordan saying that's the best dunk i've done in years that was a really

hard game of basketball he's played quite a few hard games of basketball so for him to even mention that one was difficult it means it was a very hard game so it was a blessing that we didn't have to come in and record a podcast because it would have been awful. Rory survived a Jack Daniels-shaped IED in the war zones of East London. But hey,

I bounced back. I'm feeling great today. I got a big cup of coffee and I'm ready to dive into a fresh paranormal story. What you got for me? Let me find out. F***.

F*** shit. This is so early in the podcast. I'm not as ready as I thought I was. So early in the podcast i'm not as ready as i thought early in the podcast to be getting lost i'm worried that you've abandoned your ipad rory's has been reading off an ipad up until this point now he's he seems to be dialing a number or something for your information kit i'm trying to figure out which one of our listeners submitted this so i can give them thanks because i actually care about our listeners yeah you never do that by the way this is completely out of character to remember to show it someone i can't find it either so you ain't getting shit andrew gorham uh he is at least one person who uh suggested this i think they've suggested cases before so thank you for sending in this recommendation. Kit, today we're going to be investigating not a paranormal cryptid, not a ghost or a poltergeist necessarily.

We're investigating a real physical thing here that has been potentially possessed by an evil spirit. Well, you say it's real and physical. I think that's time for me to decide. I'll see about that. But before we dive into today's case, how about a quick word from today's sponsors? And just a reminder that you can get new episodes of This Paranormal Life ad-free over on Patreon.com. Ooh. Okay, kid, it's 1971 in North America, and a middle-aged woman is wandering through an antique store trying to choose a gift for her daughter, Donna. Now, Donna was a student nurse who was just about to start school,

so whatever the present was, it was going to have to be a special one. There's a lot of fantastic options at the antique store, but one in particular stands out, a vintage secondhand Raggedy Ann doll. Vintage, secondhand, and Raggedy? I think you better keep looking because let me tell you something. People like new shit. I don't care if this was 1971.

Get her an iPad. All right? I will say before you go down this path too much, Raggedy Ann is the brand of the doll. It's not a Raggedy Ann doll. Get her a fresh Ann, a new Ann. Don't get her a Raggedy Ann. The fresh Ann is Raggedy. It's not a raggedy Anne doll. Get her a fresh Anne, a new Anne. Don't get her a raggedy Anne. The fresh Anne is raggedy.

That's how it comes. So she buys it for Donna and drives it over to her daughter's new apartment. Just to be clear, this daughter is too old for dolls. Way too old. If your daughter has an apartment and she's going to university.

Yeah, she's a student nurse. So again, hey, if that's what you're into fine some people might think it's i'm a little bit too old to have babelates and to those people i say let it rip and watch your back hey we've we've all been there sometimes we act a little bit um younger than our biological age says. You know, sometimes me and Cora get up in the morning and she wants to watch cartoons. So we put on Teletubbies.

And sometimes after nine or 10 minutes, Cora will wander off. But I'm still pretty engrossed in what Tinky Winky's getting up to. Because there's a storyline. And I honestly think they write that stuff for at least, I'm not saying I have the mental age of a seven-year-old, but it's actually pretty hard to follow the story sometimes.

It's pretty complicated. I just don't know where the tubby custard came from. I just don't know how it gets eaten or produced, and I want to find out more. So as I said, she bought the doll, drove it over to her daughter's apartment to deliver the gift. But this little f***er was more than just a doll kid. She might as well have been delivering her daughter Tutankhamen's mummified corpse.

Whoa. Because this raggedy Anne came with some consequences. Now Donna's mother delivered the gift and just as she thought, Donna loved it. She's beautiful. Thank you, mum. What should I call her? Anne? No, that's too plain. What about Anna? Ooh, or Annabelle? At this point, Annabelle becomes a permanent guest at the apartment, joining Donna and her roommate Angie. It's a cute little vintage item to have around the flat, and guests come and ask questions about it. But it wasn't long before Annabelle had overstayed her welcome.

One day, Donna came home to find the doll sprawled out on the hallway floor. Angie, what's Annabelle doing on the floor? Last I saw it was on the chair in the hall. It must have slipped off. Donna dusts Annabelle off and rests her carefully back on the chair, this time placing her all the way to the back so she won't fall on the floor again. Then she went to her room to get in her comfy clothes. It was a crazy day. I've been rushed off my feet. What were you thinking about cooking for dinner? Because I thought that...

When Donna walked back into the hallway, the doll was back on the floor how could this be she just put her back on the chair a few minutes ago kit we've been here before we have we've seen this happen we've seen dolls or inanimate objects come to classic dickhead roommate she's a liar you think there's some gaslighting going on here? Sorry, I might be getting off track. You're saying this isn't a problematic roommate situation. It looks like this little f***er is moving about by itself. Now, I have a very low tolerance for items being cursed.

Yeah. If I so much as thought that I'd put my MacBook Pro to sleep the night before, and I wake up, and the screen is powered on, I'm smashing it with a hammer. It's destroyed. I have zero tolerance for items being possessed in my household.

If I use the last of a tube of toothpaste and then I wake up the next day and there actually is a tiny, tiny amount that you can just about squeeze out, I'm smashing the bathroom to bits with a sledgehammer because something happened there. I thought the toothpaste was done. just about squeeze out. Just a tiny drop. I'm smashing the bathroom to bits with a sledgehammer. Because something happened there. Yeah. I thought the toothpaste was done. It is not done. That's paranormal.

And this is what we're seeing here. We're seeing a doll. Seeming like it's moving about by itself. No, you're completely right, though. Anytime we've talked about potentially cursed, potentially paranormal items, artifacts, we are begging, begging the people in the story to lob them out of a fifth story window as soon as possible.

I once had dinner at Kit's cousin's house and they said, would you like a biscuit with your tea? I think there's one left in the packet. There were two in the packet. I burned that place to the ground. I didn't even say a f***ing word. I just poured the gasoline on the floor. Yes, I brought my own gasoline and lit the match.

One time I went to a showing of Ant-Man at the local cinema. They said it was starting at 6.30. There was actually eight minutes of ads and it started at 6.38. I killed the guy who sold me the ticket. I straight up killed him. You just have to. He's cursed.

The whole thing was cursed. So Donna decided to take the doll up to her room and put it down gently on the bed dead center of the bed after dinner donna went to the living room to watch tv but her seat was taken god no that's right annabelle was back downstairs this time sitting on the sofa. Now, obviously being the logical nurse that she is, Donna suspects that she's simply being pranked by her roommate, so she doesn't give it any more thought. But that night, Donna awoke to the sound of footsteps in the hallway. Was it her roommate Angie, back from a late night shift? Suddenly, she heard a blood-curdling scream. Donna ran out into the hallway to see her roommate panting and clutching her chest. In front of her in the hallway was Annabelle.

Angie, what's wrong? What the hell is wrong with you? Angie cried. Why would you put this outside my room? It scared the life out of me. I didn't. Why did you put the doll on the sofa last night? Angie looked confused. Both girls claimed that neither of them had been moving the doll. From this night onward, things get progressively stranger. The doll starts moving around every day by itself. We're talking toy story levels of sentience here. Jesus. Donna and Angie eventually invite their friend Lou over to take a look at the doll. Maybe they're overreacting.

Maybe the doll isn't really cursed. They're not overreacting. They're underreacting. As soon as Lou arrives into the house, he can feel something is wrong. In fact, almost as soon as he sees the doll, he starts telling them they have to get rid of it. A man after my own heart. Despite Lou insisting that they get rid of the doll immediately, Donna holds on to it. So what if now and again it seems to come to life?

It's not hurting anybody. Hey, this is the problem with gifts from friends and family. Yeah. Doesn't matter how shitty the gift is it's automatically sentimental right my parents could gift me a tropical disease in a jar and i would have to cherish it because it's from my parents and this is kind of the cul-de-sac that uh donna finds herself in yeah that christmas morning you were like oh it's that malaria thank you i guess uh yeah i'm just gonna put this over here aren't't you going to open it up? No, I don't think I should, Dad. Well, your mother and I put a lot of money into that.

Yeah, it took me nine months to get over the dengue fever I got last year for my birthday. It's true. I've been given some very ridiculous gifts from my family over the years, and it does just become sentimental. I remember my mom, for Christmas a few years ago, gave me a DVD that teaches you how to street dance. She wanted you to be a b-boy? This is not a joke. My parents wanted me to be a f***ing lawyer. Your mom was like, I really think our dog has a ring to it. It was a DVD.

This was not even long ago, by the way. It was a few years. We don't even have a DVD player in the house. And I got a DVD. It was an instructional video called, I think it was literally called Fat Moves, spelled P-H-A-T. Of course. And Street Dance Grooves. Fat Move, P-H-A-T. Of course. And Street Dance Grooves.

Fat Move, P-H-A-T for Fat Boys, F-A-T. Spelled the regular way. Yeah, the second one was just a regular one. Yeah, it was more of a workout DVD. I was quite large at the time. And yes, this is my parents trying to give me a subtle hint. They thought that you were a nerd, I think. You were playing too many video games.

They wanted you to meet some girls through the medium of dance. Yeah, that would make sense because the other gift was a prostitute. So I think they obviously thought I was nerdy and sheltered. And they were like, you need to learn how to dance and have sex with a woman. Rory, this is Crystal. Rory, this is Crystal. Rory, this is Crystal. And she'd love to see some of your new moves. Why don't you show Crystal your new moves? Non-sexual moves.

That's for later. The dance moves. So f***ed up. Mom and dad. Christmas dinner that evening, we're all just like sitting around, the whole family and Crystal. So should we go around and say what we're thankful for?

Crystal's just chain smoking at the end of the table. Pass the ham. Of course, darling. You know, I'm about to take over into four hours. Your mum and dad are like, Rory's not going to take long, don't worry. Mum! Don't tell her.

And to this day, I still have the Fat Move Street Dance Grooves DVD, and I still keep in touch with Crystal, because they're sentimental gifts. This is it. As I said, despite Lou insisting they get rid of the doll, they didn't. Donna held onto it. And while it wasn't hurting anyone at the time, as we know, these paranormal stories can escalate very quickly.

Donna began to find notes. Why? No. Written all over her home. This is not okay. The notes said, help. Help us. What does that mean? And help Lou.

I need some more details on what these notes look like. I have to know. I don't know if there are any pictures of the notes or the scrimmages. Because in theory, if you were, because I like that you're just dancing around the fact that the doll wrote the notes. Sure. Oh, yeah. Big time. So in theory, they should be, the letters should be really small because the doll's really small. It should be like really small handwriting. Right. Yeah. like maybe some backwards letters because it's kind of cute like

kid writing yeah yeah you know help me yeah you know it was blood it was scrawled in blood it was 20 feet tall uh took up most of the side of the house it was enormous uh no i'm not i think these are just small handwritten notes not sure where they're coming from call lou Call Lou. Call Lou right now because I'm starting to think Lou, I think Lou might be six foot under. I don't know what Annabelle did last night, but I think Lou might be six foot under. It does say, yeah, one of the notes is help Lou, who was their friend who came to help them look at the doll.

And last thing I remember, Lou said they needed to get rid of Annabelle, which Annabelle probably didn't take too kindly to. Yeah. If anything, I think this is maybe a sign we maybe just let Annabelle stay. We just maybe let Annabelle do whatever she wants because you don't want to be the next person

that needs help when the notes start appearing again. Sometimes you just got to pay the protection money and understand that the world's a corrupt place. And the doll hasn't stopped moving, by the way. At this point, the doll is basically teleporting around the house. The doll's got a hold of Fat Street Moves. Volume 3.

Popping and locking, breakdancing, moonwalking. Yeah, it is. This thing is alive now. Fully alive. It's moving around so frequently that Donna and Angie barely even take notice anymore. That is, until one evening.

Donna returned home and was surprised to find Annabelle where she left her, sitting comfortably on the bed. But something's different. There's something on the doll's hands. When Angie moves in for a closer inspection,

she can't believe what she's seeing. It's blood. It be blood. When Angie moves in for a closer inspection, she can't believe what she's seeing. It's blood. It's blood. It was blood, 100%. Does anyone know where Lou is? Has anyone seen Lou in days? We have all the evidence we need to put Annabelle behind f***ing bars.

She searched around the house and couldn't find where the blood had come from. There were no drops on the bed or stains on the sheets. It looked as if the blood was coming from the doll. We are so, so, so deeply far beyond the point at which Donna should have just put her in the microwave. I don't know. Do something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought, how are you supposed to...

How are you supposed to go to university, Donna? How are you supposed to focus in your day-to-day life if you tolerate the chaos that this doll has brought to your life? If I have a medical issue and I need to go to the doctor to have some sort of procedure done upon me,

I don't want the nurse to come into the room and be like, sorry, sorry, I'm late. Sorry, I was just up late because this... this f***ing doll that I have done upon me i don't want the nurse to come into the room and be like sorry sorry i'm late sorry it's just up late because this this doll that i have is just i'm bleeding my over here yeah it's like yeah can i just get some stitches though because it's out of my head it's kind of yeah actually the doll was bleeding as well did i mention that the doll did i mention the doll that i have in my house i get a different nurse yeah i want my nurse to be well rested mentally fine if they do have a doll for

it to be unalive and if it is alive i'd like them to be able to deal with the problem and i know i said all that shit about gifts being sentimental i think mom will understand yeah i think you let her in on what's going on since the doll turned up she'll be like that's cool i'll get you an itunes voucher yeah like it's all we can replace the doll we can do a different thing i'm not pissed that you threw it in a bin because it killed lou so it's it's it obviously did right we don't need to dance around it well here's the good thing if this blood is coming from the doll does that mean the doll can die right if it bleeds we can kill it kind of logic. Exactly. Donna and Angie realize that they're gonna need some outside help, so they call a medium to investigate the doll

and try and figure out just what in the sweet is going on. So a medium comes around to the house and performs a seance. The group gather around the table with their hands clasped, Annabelle on the table in the middle of them. And it isn't long before the medium begins to whisper secrets from the other side. I see a child. A dead child. On this very spot, before this building stood here. And now the spirit of this child is... It's... It's inside your doll! Whoa, okay. Right?

We're seeing a, um, a classic explanation behind a haunted object, which is a lost soul that went through some traumatic experience on Earth, and now its consciousness, or whatever unfinished grudges and hatred it holds in itself has now manifested inside of an inanimate object got you so this really arguably uh could have been anything um they just happened to have a creepy doll which the girls paid attention to but this

the spirit of the child could have just as equally possessed a game boy advance yeah or a slinky yeah yeah and we might not have noticed that would have been chill the slinky would have been chill because you can kind of it's like oh where is he this time he's at the top of the stairs and he's going down them it's like okay well that's fine with me that's that's kind of fine i don't even think slinkies can bleed you know they're not really that threatening if you wake up in the middle of the night and there's a slinky on your bed it's like all right get the f**k off me you know what are you what are you gonna do wrap yourself around my throat yeah or trip me up while i'm trying to go down the stairs neither to think about it

actually the slinky could be a problem but it kind of it kind of sucks that um obviously this lost soul was like okay got to got to possess something, right? Can't just float around here all the time. So I guess that toaster, maybe I could like burn their bread or something or that carpet, it could be like kind of more shaggy than a shag carpet should be.

Static, could create static. And then Donna's mom just comes in the front door. Donna, I got you this old, ancient, f***ed up looking creepy little piece of shit doll. And he's like, boom. I can't believe I almost went for the toaster. This one is perfect. Basically a little child body I can go back into now.

Yeah. So clearly there's supposed to be a direct parallel here that the child has obviously used the similar visage of this doll has gone okay that's that's the right fit for me yeah absolutely nailed it that's why you don't don't buy creepy shit for your house because you're just buying vessels for paranormal creatures to inhabit now you might think because donna and angie have now made a connection with this doll and heard its story the spirit would be able to rest in peace absolutely not raggedy ann started scratching people scratching them with her mind at one point louie who is still alive visits the house and gets so scratched up he had to take his shirt off just

to stop the fabric from hurting him lou lou must be extremely down bad to still be coming around these girls house at this point he was no options whatsoever he's like talking to his friends at the bar that night it's like yeah i started seeing this chick but uh damn it's just you know like some chicks have got like uh complicated past or like an x or something that uh you have to deal with yeah this is his friend finishing his thought is like yeah bro it's like you know the last girl i was seeing she'd been in a couple bad relationships so you know there's kind of some trust issues going on he's like yeah yeah it's a little like that it's a little like that uh oh does he have does she have

like uh like an ex-partner who's still in the picture. Oh, they're still in the picture. Oh, yeah. They're actually in her bed right now. Oh, Jesus. That's complicated. And they attacked me. He scratches. Yeah, it's either that or Lou is going over there and he's like, they're just not interested at

all. But he's like, oh, I'm getting scratched so hard I gotta take my shirt off. Oh, God. He's like oh i'm getting scratched so hard i gotta take my shirt off oh god he's like flexing do you think yeah i've been working on a bit recently so uh i don't know if it's gonna leave a bruise you want to take a look at it well this is where we're at now kit teleporting around the house fine bleeding all over the bed sheets i guess that's okay too but scratching that's where they drew the line because guess what one up from scratching is biting or bashing in kneecaps with a little doll baseball bat it all escalates from here yeah annabelle is testing them but what are donna and

angie going to do they clearly can't beat Annabelle by themselves. They don't have the expertise. They haven't tried. They have not tried. They've tried nothing and they're all out of ideas. They need to bring in the big guns. Some people who have dealt with this before and know how to deal with it again. So of course, they bring in

America's most famous husband and wife ghost fighting duo Ed and Lorraine Warren. Whoa! Now, this is where people might start to put together the pieces of this puzzle. This Raggedy Ann doll was the inspiration behind the Annabelle movie, which is a very famous horror movie in the Conjuring universe. Love it.

If Rory is the Michael Jordan of hangovers, Ed and Lorraine Warren are the MJ and Scottie Pippen of Busting the Paranormal. It's true. After Kit and Rory, of course. If you don't know, we have talked about Ed and Lorraine Warren a lot before, but they're the real deal.

They are paranormal investigators that have been involved in many, many investigations over the last 50 years, such as the Union Cemetery Electric Woman, the Enfield Poltergeist, and the Amityville Horror, which is a, you know, I know we've got a lot of important cases under our belt as well.

Furbies. Furbies, the Donkey Lady. I kind of did a very early solo investigation into the Dublin Gorilla Man. Actually, maybe you should. I need to email Ed and Lorraine about that because... I don't think shitting yourself and having to go to 20 years of therapy

counts as investigating anything. They definitely should look into it. I think so. So these guys are the real deal. And believe it or not, this is actually one of the first cases that put them on the map. Wow, interesting.

But what are they going to do to take down Annabelle once and for all? We are just about to find out. After a quick word from today's sponsors. So Ed and Lorraine Warren show up to the house, bringing a priest along with them, which is a pretty strong indication of how seriously they are taking this thing. The priest began examining the doll while Donna caught everyone up to speed. So we had a medium here not long ago to examine it. That's how we found out it was the spirit of a little girl. The priest dropped the doll. Is that what it told you? That it was a little girl? Yes, that's what the medium said.

My dear, it lied to you. This doll is possessed by a demon. He's possessed, I think. Yeah, pretty cool demon as well. Pretty sexy guy. Everyone likes him down in hell. This is a really cool thing that i don't know if we've ever had in a case before but it makes so much sense why on earth do you trust the doll why on earth would you just be like oh yeah it says it's a it was a little girl who

had great hardships and actually we should be pretty kind to her because she had a hard life and the doll says actually it deserves the master bedroom. Because it was actually, it's an angel. It says it's an angel, actually. Because, I don't know if you know, but toddlers lie. And demon toddlers lie more than anyone else. You've got one. So you know more than anyone.

At this point, Donna has had enough. It doesn't matter if the doll was a gift. She wants it out of the house. So the gang got to work. The priest whipped out the holy water, started dousing the entire building. And when he finished, the Warrens packed Annabelle into their car, finally taking the doll off of their hands forever. That's a good service. You know, sometimes we've seen it in the past that people come in and, you know, ooh, try to do a seance. Ooh, try and cleanse the room with crystals or whatever.

But they're like, put on these goggles to protect your eyes. We're going to f*** this place up with holy water. Yeah. And then we're going to remove the doll, the artifact, and drop it to the bottom of the Mariana Trench. Like, there is no getting out of this. This is 100% success rate. Yeah, I kind of like this it's less of a it's less of a what they have before with the medium which is like bringing someone in to talk to the doll and more of like a paranormal moving company yeah it's kind of like hey it's very just meat and potatoes you got a problem you got an object

that's causing you grief uh us and father ryan are gonna come we're going to basically waterboard this thing with holy water and then if you want we'll take it away we'll do a whole removal service um we can you can throw in a bunch of extras as well it's like if you want father ryan will spend the night just to make sure everything's okay now we also do uh sage burning if you want to chuck that in we also have a lot of paranormal shit so if you want something to replace it maybe something a little bit more cursed maybe something a little bit less cursed if you're in the mood for like an ancient scroll or just uh maybe you don't like dolls maybe you want a race car that turns on in the middle of the night and drives

around we got all that shit so just let us know yeah yeah we're doing a winter package right now where uh where father ryan will tell you some stories yeah kind of make it make a whole experience out of the whole thing you know yeah kind of like no faff uh i really appreciate that yeah because the thing is you only have to understand and try and make peace with these spirits if you're gonna live with them yeah if you have no plans on trying to coexist with this thing, it doesn't f***ing matter where the story is. Yeah. This little doll could be like, 100 years ago, I lived in this very- Don't give a shit. F***ing- Ah! Dunk its head in holy water, electrocute it, cook it in the microwave. Yeah, it's done. It's burnt. It's gone. This is the kind- Like anything else cause you problems? Yeah?

This is the kind of pragmatism we've been looking for all along. I noticed there was a squirrel outside in the tree. We can shoot that if you want. Is it causing you problems? It's a fixer, a paranormal fixer. Yeah, it's like there's a bird that wakes us up in the morning. All right, anything else? I don't think that was the right bird.

I'll keep going all day. I'll keep going all day. I'll keep going all f***ing day. No, stop, please. You make a good point, though. There's like a probably whole paranormal industry here. You know, here in the UK, we've got We Buy Any Car. If you've got a car that, I don't know, you transported a dead body in,

so it's all covered in blood, you can call We Buy Any Car, beep, beep, and they will buy it for granted a small sum of money but it's like we will guarantee to take it off your hands i don't think if it's covered in blood i think that's you make it sound like they'll destroy evidence i don't think that's what they're saying they're saying they'll buy any car well you know i've tried it and you haven't't. They'll buy anything you say is a car. As long as you have signed a contract saying you thought it was a car, that dirty shovel or bloody rope, it's gone. A bag of marked notes, very, very marked notes.

Gone, yeah. Ed and Lorraine Warren could do a kind of we buy any house, beep, beep, where you you're like my house is haunted i can't handle this i'm willing to sell it for below market value and then a bit like a property flipper and lorraine like we'll take it off your hands we'll get rid of everything and then we'll sell it sell it again yeah well correct me if i'm wrong but this is a big thing in japan right is uh there's a name for specific houses where might not be haunted, but might be where horrible things have happened, either like murders or suicides. And they're given this name. I'll

look it up just so we have it on record. But basically these houses that something horrible has happened in, you have special like real estate people who deal with getting rid of these houses and they're often at much cheaper rates than uh regular houses yeah i believe it is i believe the property is referred to as a jiko buken or a haunted house where apparently uh the previous occupant had died of unnatural causes so uh common ways to get a property classified as a jiko buken includes suicide murder fire or neglect so big range there uh because my apartment has been neglected at points over the years but i wouldn't go as far to say it's haunted i like that this works in japan because as a kind of like deeply historically spiritual country with their

shinto beliefs yeah they're kind of maybe a bit more in tune with the auspice of a house and that it wouldn't be auspicious potentially to move into somewhere that has this dark past you try that shit in the bay area of uh north america um people will be like, I don't give a f***, give it to me. I'll kill the mother f***er myself with my bare hands if it gets me into this house. Here in London, I don't think, there's no reducing a house price on the basis. So I don't care how f***ed up the murder-suicide was

that happened inside. We will take it. Would you live in a haunted house? Like, let's say there was some sort of horrific,-suicide that took place in the building 50 years ago. I'm definitely somewhat joking. I think it obviously plays a factor. But what I will say is there's a big difference between that horrible event or murder or whatever taking place in like a 200 year old house with creaky floor boards in the middle of the country yeah there's a big difference between that and the murder

happening in let's say your modern flat in london where you're not really gonna think about it as much it's not gonna play in your mind as much yeah that's true i think i would that's what i'm saying i think i probably would it's one of these things where it's like if i probably would live there for a while i don't know i don't know if i would buy it and be like this is going to be my family home well and then i'll make a life here and this is the problem is like of course it's not even that the people buying it care it's more that they're scared that other people will care right yeah because that makes it a bad investment yeah it's more that they're scared that other people will care. Right. Yeah. Because that makes it a bad investment. Yeah.

It's like, they're less scared of like, it's like, I don't think a ghost is going to attack me. I just think someone else will not buy it because someone died here. Yeah. You don't want to just be kind of like sitting in your living room with like friends over playing Monopoly one night.

And you're like, uh, fun fact, the whole family was slaughtered here brutally. Um, wasn't even that long ago. Uh, Jordan, you go to Pasco, uh, take 200. Sorry, why are you telling us this?

I just want to be fun. Just a fun fact. You know who didn't Pasco? The family that lived here. Their, uh, their journey around the board was cut short. Pretty drastically. Oh man, I love Monopoly. it's a real cutthroat game you know what else is pretty cutthroat

the victims of the poor innocent people who used to live in this house like all right anyway so you rolled a six uh yeah that is park place and hotels man you guys are bleeding me dry you know who who else? Shut up! Stop talking about the murders! Damn, Alice, like, you've got a lot of red on this board. You know what else had a lot of red? The floorboards of this building.

Yeah, George, you know, it's funny you picked an iron to be your piece for this game because that was the murder weapon. So as I said, the Warrens packed annabelle into their car finally taking the doll off of their hands but while the wrath of annabelle was now pulled from donna and angie it already found its next victims while driving home the power steering on the warren's car failed stalling the engine repeatedly. Ed decides it's best to stay off the highway,

just in case Annabelle tries to cause an accident. Jesus. When the young couple reach home, Ed pushes down on the brakes only to realize they ain't working. She cut the brakes! He struggled to regain control of the car, eventually skidding to a stop outside their house. It isn't long before the Warrens realize

they may have bitten off more than they can chew. Within days, Ed claims that he saw the doll hovering in mid-air. The only way that they can stop Annabelle from allegedly acting up is by dousing her with holy water. But after weeks of paranormal activity, even the holy water starts to wear off. Eventually, things got so bad that Ed and Lorraine had to call another priest in just to come back and smack it around a bit. The priest examined the doll and luckily had some good news. Well, Mr. and Mrs. Warren, it may very well be a demon, but I don't believe it can hurt you. After all, it is a doll. Why, it couldn't even strangle you with those little hands.

Yeah, tell that to my mechanic who's fixing the cup breaks right now. Motherfucker. I believe it's nothing more than a nuisance. I think you'll find if you ignore it, everything will be fine. Just minutes after dismissing the doll, the priest crashed his car. He didn't die, but he was pretty messed up. Wow. If this little f***er is attacking priests, it surely has no limits. The Warrens have to make sure that this doll can't possibly hurt anyone again. So they construct a large wooden cabinet with a glass door and seal Annabelle inside.

Once completed, Lorraine stuck a note on the front of the case that read, warning, positively do not open. You mentioned this was at the start of their kind of career or towards the start. Does it kind of make sense? They hadn't maybe quite worked out their paranormal archiving standards. Yes.

You know, this isn't, they haven't quite worked out the Indiana Jones style warehouse where they kind of lock you in a wooden box. It's true. And put you in the middle of a warehouse. Some people might know now that the Warrens are actually kind of famous

for their paranormal exhibition. Now they have a lot of artifacts, including Annabelle the doll, still on display, sealed away in glass cases, along with a huge collection of other incredibly paranormal artifacts, which we will go on to talk about in just a second at the end of this podcast. But you're right, this could have very well been one of the first to kick off the collection. It's like in Transformers you know

the first time they probably stopped Megatron probably just like gave him a slap on the wrist and were like naughty boy don't do that don't do that again

and then you know he destroyed a planet or whatever sure you know some f***ed up Transformers stuff and they were like

alright I'm being serious this time I'm being serious oh Megatron don't do it like we'll seriously we'll put you in jail next time. Like, don't do it, bro. And by the end, they tied, they put concrete on his feet

and they dropped him to the bottom of the Mariana Trench. Like I said. Yeah. They were taking no chances. Next time, if he comes back from that shit, they're ejecting him into the sun. That's kind of maybe where we're at with this little doll. Yeah yeah we tried slapping it on the wrist we tried the holy water we tried all of this it cut the brakes to a priest's car it needs to be punished severely i assume this is uh you know

being the owner of a paranormal object like this is sort of like being a parent, you know, you have to learn to discipline a child in a way that warrants the proper response, you know? Yeah. If they stay up past their bedtime, hey, now you have to go to bed earlier the next day. I don't know. That sounds poetically right. If you don't eat your vegetables one day, now you got to eat twice as many vegetables the next day. That makes sense. You don't have children vegetables one day, now you got to eat twice as many vegetables the next day. That makes sense. You don't have children.

This is terrible parenting. If your child cuts the brakes to a priest's car. Yo, you bet he's going to the naughty corner. He's sitting on the naughty step. There ain't enough vegetables in the world to fix that kid. I don't know what you do, but it's got to be pretty dramatic. Yeah, there's no fortnight for a month at that point. Yeah, what can you do, but it's got to be pretty dramatic. Yeah, there's no Fortnite for a month at that point. Yeah, what can you do and say?

We need the paranormal doll version of juvenile detention. It's like, you deserve to go to prison forever, but legally we kind of can't, so we need to do a little halfway measure. Yeah, yeah. You'll just go to a little prison, which I guess is kind of what the Warrens collection is. Yeah.

Little prison for paranormal artifacts. And as we said, this is where the doll sits to this very day inside the Warrens Museum of the Occult. It's been open to the public for many, many years now. And some visitors say that they can see Annabelle moving around the case, trying to break free. that they can see Annabelle moving around the case, trying to break free. Because the Warrens weren't able to get rid of the demon, they've just settled for trapping it inside of this glass case. There are claims that she's taken lives since moving to the Warrens Museum. For example, a visiting motorcyclist had to be removed by stewards when they caught him taunting the doll and banging on the glass. Allegedly, the same rider crashed his bike on the way home from the museum and died.

Hard to say if he was just mentally unstable. Or drunk. And uncut to be riding a motorbike. Yeah. But interesting nonetheless, yes. One cool thing is that Annabelle isn't the only doll on display at the Warren's place. In fact, you can look up a full list of some of the creepiest artifacts that they have on display. And there's like 10 different dolls that they have.

There's a Stretch Armstrong that strangled a dude once. Stretch Armstrong's already pretty paranormal. Because he's already stretching more than a doll should. Kid, I've got a little list here of some of the dolls on display i thought you could take a take a look at do i get to see the doll annabelle yes no why i didn't include any pictures i'll get you a picture do you understand the kind of grilling roth pulled out his phone he's ditched the ipad which is where all the evidence is and and he pulls out his phone and he's like, oh, I guess if you want to see this thing, I guess. Is it really that interesting?

I mean, come on. Rory would be roasting my ass over an open fire if we'd got to the end of an episode and I didn't show him any evidence. Okay, here you go. Here's the doll. Jesus Christ, it's f***ing huge. You've never seen it? What?

Imagine I'm like, oh, shit, this thing's crazy. We should have looked at this earlier. Damn, look at that thing. You really hadn't seen it before? No, I've never seen it. For f*** sake. What are we doing here? I'd seen pictures of Raggedy Ann dolls.

I didn't realize that it was so large. You're like, who's the old broad next to her that's lorraine warren that's that's a very respected paranormal researcher uh yeah they're giant yeah they're quite big they're like half the size of a human body yeah it's it must be too big pretty heavy yeah because in my head i thought like like a foot tall like a little doll you know yeah totally no it. It's bloody big. They should have called the police on this thing. It's the size of a child.

I kind of want one for Cora now. It's quite like, it is creepy. Yeah. Definitely. And it's got kind of old time Victorian clothing, but it is kind of cute looking as well. It looks like an Animal Crossing villager. Yeah, exactly.

Got those big eyes. Really does. Even like the little nose. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Got those big eyes. It really does. Even like the little nose. Yeah. Yeah. I did actually look online because I thought maybe we could buy one for the office and have it like on the podcast.

Now that we, you know, we did the Furbies episode, it's fun to like buy some silly props to have, see if we could maybe turn it evil. And you can still get them. I don't know if they're in production anymore, but they have vintage ones for sale on eBay and everything. So maybe for a bonus episode or an after party, we'll get an Annabelle, slap it around a little bit,

dunk its head in water, see if we can provoke some spirits to come inhabit the doll, you know? I don't know after this story if I feel comfortable slapping around Annabelle. Dude, the craziest thing is, I mean, so this is a picture of the doll i assume in the warren's museum that's a real that's a real thing that's a real child look at it the spirit is very much still locked inside the doll the case is not big enough for

the doll it looks like it's grown i think it i think it is what is creepy about it is like despite the feet the features being completely blank and masked like the actual proportions does look it looks like a child inside a suit yeah put it that way i definitely should have looked at a picture of this before i did the case and show one to kit because this changes everything like no wonder an evil spirit decided to possess this doll it is literally the size of a child well as i said there are some other dolls on display in the museum are you going to show me another evidence or anything or i have pictures of these dolls yeah no of of of the story not the other dolls so so the first all the paranormal shit that

that annabelle did first doll is called uh any blood or the first doll is... All the paranormal shit that Annabelle did. First doll is called... Any blood or... The shadow doll. Right. The notes. She wrote notes, handwritten notes. They were erased or got rid of. Something.

Even a testimony from... So the shadow doll is covered in black feathers. And according to Ed Warren, this doll can visit you in your dreams. So I know we were... Anything at all from Donna? We've got a few to get through here. So it's like if we could just focus up here.

Yeah, of course. The dream doll. Focus on the bird doll, whatever the you said. The shadow doll. Okay. Covered in feathers. It is covered in feathers. And look, you can say what you want about Annabelle and the strangling and the scratching,

but she didn't f*** with your dreams. Right? So she was kind of chill that way. She had respect. She's like, I'll make your life a nightmare, so I'll at least keep your dreams pretty sweet. Yeah. So this is a picture of the shadow doll.

Kill that. Kill it. What am I looking at? This is an ancient goblin. It's not a doll. A doll makes it sound like there's something fun about it. It's a toy. Yeah.

This is an ancient goblin. At no point. A goblin druid. At no point was this, could it ever have been designed to be a child's toy. It's a mummified goblin. It has a horrible face, a weird little crooked nose, and just one witch's hand. Yeah, I don't know where this came from. If Yoda was a Sith Lord, that's kind of what that looks like.

It looks like if you cooked Yoda in the oven. Next up is the Dark Magic doll. It hangs in a glass container and uh it apparently this one is like a voodoo doll you create an image similar to the person in question and hang the doll in an effort to make the person uh sick or die okay i just feel like we already care a lot we're already pretty emotionally invested in the annabelle story i don't think we need to like necessarily know about the other dolls this is the. This is the dark magic doll. Here's a picture I'm showing Kit right now.

Granted, it is kind of astonishing how creepy these dolls are. I've truly never seen anything like it. But. Yeah. Because it's pretty remarkable. Because if someone says to you like, okay, this is a cursed doll. Yeah, you're like,

okay, so cursed doll, I guess like okay so crystal i guess he has like a weird smile like a little cheeky grin or maybe one eye is wonky this doll is being hung by its neck yeah permanently its face is ice white yeah it is it's terrifying looking yeah it looks like human despair locked inside a little I can see that the list keeps going by the way There's more dolls on your list Why? We already care so much about Annabelle They also have a clown doll

And some African fertility dolls We know what dolls are We're just listing dolls Has that clown doll done anything? Ladies and gentlemen Rory is just presenting me with a jpeg of a doll that is a clown and above it it just says clown doll look into the eyes of that clown doll yeah i think it's done something it's clearly done something to end up in this museum of evil look at its. Look at its eyes. I mean, even the fertility dolls.

By the sheer fact that they're called fertility dolls, we know why they were made. They were made because of beliefs to do with religion and fertility. They weren't cursed. That's what those are for? I thought something else. Okay.

What did you think they were for? No, that's fine. So, moving on. What did you think they were for? No, that's fine. So moving on. What did you think they were for? I thought. It doesn't matter. We can cut it. We can just say it because we can cut it afterwards.

I feel like if I say it, even if we do cut it, it'll change kind of the trajectory of the podcast. Sex dolls. I thought you could have sex with the dolls. They're so tiny and wooden. So you're telling me the fertility dolls that I ordered. They're this. They're not.

Yeah, you wanted what, a real doll? No, I just wanted... It was for an episode. It was going to be for an episode. It was going to be for an experiment I was doing. Or not an experiment. That's not an episode. It was going to be for an episode. It was going to be for an experiment I was doing. Or not an experiment. Just as a... An experiment.

That's not an episode. Episodes of This Part of My Life aren't experiments that Rory is doing in his bedroom. Normally we present a case. Look, if you couldn't tell, things didn't go very well with Crystal at Christmas time, all right? I didn't see any action.

I didn't get lucky. I'm a little inexperienced and I thought maybe if I bought one of these little sex dolls. They're not sex dolls. They're fertility, ancient fertility dolls. And what do they do? The ancient fertility dolls. The f***ing thing is you joke, but I'm pretty sure those are also called fetishes.

What? Little like. I found this on the web. No, don't find that on the web. We found this in your Google search history't find that on the web we found this in your google search history whoa no no Siri Siri

shut up shut up shut up oh those little things are called fetishes yeah like little little like little dolls

and objects and stuff like that I only realized that when I went to like the British Museum not that long ago that's confusing yeah

I'm looking up the dictionary here's a PSA fetish meaning one uh a form of sexual desire meaning two an inanimate object worshipped for magical powers that's incredibly misleading those are two very different things and yet we brought them together here with these uh with these little dolls wait a minute so it so it doesn't even have to do with sex nothing to do with it.

No. That's wild. Yeah, because I was in, yeah, I was in the museum and they had got like a little f***ing, imagine it was a little like wooden tiger or something

and they'd be like, yeah, here's like an ancient East African fetish. You're like, people used to bang this thing? This made dudes horny? Yeah, people were horny for tigers?

This is f***ed, bro. Yes. Yeah, there you go the english language mysterious this is us in the british museum the guide is just like and as you can see over here we also have some um some ancient uh fertility dolls any questions my hand just goes straight up put your hand down. You've said quite enough on today's show. Where do you put your c**t? All right. Well, that just about rounds up our story today into the investigation of Annabelle, the real cursed doll. Kit, I know this is a bit of a weird one today.

It's more of a retelling of a story. But the strangest part about it is, while the case, yes, look, it's very silly. It's a cursed doll that's running around a house, biting people and scratching people. Paranormal investigators, like the Warrens, take this shit extremely

seriously, to the point where it is one of the most famous objects in their museum of the occult. You know, this isn't just some Reddit story about Furbies talking when the batteries are out. This is one of the most famous paranormal stories involving a possessed object. Yeah, you're right.

Ed and Lorraine Warren take it super seriously. And I would ask that Rory takes me seriously. Which I do. Because we've sat here for one hour and you've told me a fairy tale about a dolly it's a it's a quite a big doll quite a large doll i wouldn't say dolly that you had never even seen until 60 seconds ago when i asked what it looked like don't keep saying that because i am gonna cut that moment from the podcast because it makes me look like I'm a bad investigator.

So I obviously, I obviously, look, I was obviously so wrapped up in this story, getting all the little details right, getting all the little moments, that I forgot to look at the doll. Yeah, sure. Sue me. You know?

I forgot to do the bare minimum amount of research that it takes to talk about this subject. Look, I know that this is tough because sure i am shocked and appalled and gold i'm gonna say is i'm gonna say sometimes the president of the united states is so is so busy uh fighting terrorists and eating apple pies that he just sometimes misses the fourth of july because he's so busy being the president and getting shit done that uh he misses the basic stuff. All right. Ironically, that is absolutely true of Joseph Biden.

He forgets a lot of things. Sometimes forgets how to pronounce his own name. But look, despite there being absolutely no evidence aside from eyewitness testimony, of which there is quite a lot, as you say, people do take it seriously. A number of people in this case have taken it seriously yeah very famous paranormal investigators people that make a lot of money off taking it seriously uh that literally charge people to see annabelle in a glass case yeah um which is you know really fun and i don't i don't hate on them for doing but you know it is something we talk about in tpl is people you know the warrens

uh you know that's their business is making a kind of traveling freak show of all these paranormal artifacts, which is kind of interesting and worth talking about. Yeah. No, you make a really good point. It's the question we always have to come up against at the end of the podcast, which is, is there any financial gain to be had by the individuals in the story for saying that this did happen or even dramatizing certain events. And for the Warrens, absolutely. Maybe not for Donna and Angie. They didn't seem to get much out of it. It doesn't seem like they sold a book or even wanted to be involved anymore in this case. So that's a little bit more of a strange one to wrap up. But you're right.

You're right. It makes sense that the Warrens would say that this is truly the most cursed, evil doll in existence because they want people to come look at the Museum of the Occult. And the story,

these stories, you know, self-perpetuate because even this episode we're hosting right now, this is going to send people to their museum. They are going to make cash dollars,

dollar bucks, off of this, of us just talking about it right now. So it kind of tells you something. Yeah. But Rory, you are the lead investigator.

What do you think? I think it's a great story. I think it's really fun. It's cool to look into this case that inspired the movie, even though i haven't seen the movie i've heard it's very good and very cool um we're basically talking about one of the original cursed dolls yeah actually the movie i finally i i think i feel like i've seen all the other conjuring movies i don't think i've seen that one yeah with the nun i like them they're good fun yeah they're

they're a blast if you like horror movies definitely go check them out but i think if we're gonna take this case seriously today uh there is just not enough evidence to to prove that this doll really is cursed or possessed this all took place in the 70s there's there's video cameras home video cameras they'd be hard to come by maybe a little expensive but there is no reason why um there shouldn't be more evidence of this doll and it's paranormal because by all accounts she was break dancing in the living room every she had fat moves and street dance grooves yeah she really did it wasn't it wasn't a once when the when the full moon comes out she might wiggle uh she was bleeding running around yeah i mean ed warren said at one point she was levitating in

the air hey even the bigfoot crowd even they've got some shaky photographs to show us it's true uh so from me this week it's gonna be a no it's a no damn well thank you so much uh for sending in that suggestion and thank you to amy grisdell for researching this case and philip shacklady for editing let us know if you ever had a raggedy ann doll or you have any of your own cursed objects or alternatively if you have any paranormal stories you want us to investigate email them in to this paranormal life podcast at gmail.com folks if you love this paranormal life the place to go is patreon.com forward slash this paranormal life because over there that's where you can get some amazing cool bonus content we're talking about extra weekly episodes extra monthly episodes is it even that

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If every week we're like, check out Patreon. What if every week we're like check out patreon what if one week we're like don't check out patreon how about this week we give you guys money just to flip the script what if i wear a shoe on my head this was what if i eat water uh no i i i to be fair i guess you're right because i do want to shake things up. But to be fair, the after parties have been excellent recently. They've been fantastic. They've been so good. The after parties, if you don't know, is the behind the scenes weekly episode that goes out where Kit and I fill you in on everything in the TPL world.

And in fact, just to give you a little taste of what those after parties are like, why not play a clip right now from one of our recent episodes did you ever see when you were growing up did you ever see a little animated movie called the prince of egypt sure i saw that movie when i was way too young because i think my parents were like hey the kids are gonna love this let's go watch the the prince of egypt it's a bible cartoon probably didn't swear uh she probably didn't uh it uh it's there's there's wrath the the wrath of the lord uh comes in kind of in that that last quarter and it's it's brutal because because some of it is the fun shit where it's like hey we're gonna make a bunch of frogs come and uh locusts are gonna eat all your crops and then at the end he goes i'm gonna

kill a bunch of kids i'm gonna kill the children yeah yeah uh unless you mark your door with goat blood i'm gonna kill you which is such a messed up loophole like why create a loophole at all yeah i don't really understand because there was probably a bunch of wild theories going around where some dudes probably like i heard if you drink milk before bed he will save you yeah and it's like you know i was like i don't know i'm gonna trust moses because he's kind of the one i wasn't really listening when god was talking and so i'm just gonna kind of improvise and hopefully he'll see that i'm trying kind of hard it's also kind of a a f***ed up way to teach a lesson because uh the one people who didn't do anything was the kids they are the innocent they were the few without sin presumably um so you

know far be it for me to question his ways i'm pretty sure you're not supposed to do that not me questioning not me questioning the lord just just thinking about it but needless to say a little little tyke rory little nugget rory had a few questions for mama pars in the back of the car on the way home yeah i think she thought we were kind of be going home being like well rory he truly is great isn't he powerful and i'm like that's one way to word it yeah oh yeah do we have any paint at home, though? Because just be on the safe side. I know it's been a couple thousand years since he pulled that little trick,

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I'm making your point, which is that, which is the prices stayed the same, but you get way more for your money. Yeah. I think I kind of said, I don't know why we needed the bean analogy to kind of hammer that home. I was kind of like,

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It's a joke. Huh? I see a lot of myself in Amir. So like, do you mean, what are you getting at? I see a lot of myself in a mirror. So like, do you mean, what are you getting at? So I see a lot of myself in a mirror. Dude, stop saying this. Do you know how the podcast works? You can't just keep saying the same thing over and over and over.

This is like bad podcasting. Come on, we need to go. Like, like. A mirror. Yeah, I know. A mirror. Thank you, a mirror for being a patron. Like, say something else.

I see a lot of myself in him. A mirror. Like, it's a mirror. Are you hard of hearing, bro? I'm going to have to cut all of this. Let's just move on. Let's just move on. Thanks also to Luke Coet.

Luke, get your coat. Because you've pulled a giant bean. What? Out of a cow. You've won the only... You've been drawn in the commune raffle to eat the only bean we have. Right.

And it's not a novelty-sized bean. It's a regular-sized bean. It was all we had from the harvest. The crops went bad. So you get the bean this week. Congratulations. Thank you to everyone that supports us on Patreon. Honestly, we couldn't do it without your support so if you want some extra bonus content and some really cool goodies head on

over to patreon.com forward slash this paranormal life guys we love you thanks for joining us we hope you enjoy this week's episode uh any any farewell messages kit to the commune before we go no like pressure about the whole Patreon thing. I'm honestly 50-50 about it, even after that great clip. We need to put on the pressure to go. Check it out. Or like, yeah. There's lots of great Patreons out there as well.

Not just ours. We're broke. We're broke. So we need to make sure that we do have people coming. All right. I need to walk back a lot of what I said then. Yeah. Really?

We're like, we don't have a lot of cash. Nothing. We've got nothing left. I couldn't, I couldn't afford. Why'd you let me say all that shit? You think, you think I decided, oh, I actually decided not to buy the Raggedy Ann doll for the podcast. We couldn't.

My card bounced. You're not wearing shoes. I only just noticed. I had to sell them. Sorry. We're getting, again. Anyway, thank you for listening we do need guys

we do need to talk financials yeah yeah yeah head on over to patreon.com for Zajay's paranormal life and help me get another pair of shoes make it fun though

yeah no we gotta make it sad make it fun though my feet hurt it's lots of fun no my feet are bleeding no no no

I need shoes no uh Zajay has nice shoes he has great shoes we He has great shoes. We're doing great. But also, help us. See you next week, folks.