Too Scary; Didn't Watch - DON'T BREATHE with Chuck Bryant

Episode Date: June 22, 2022

One blind man, three unprepared burglars, a bag of cash and a basement surprise...we're recapping the terrifying DON'T BREATHE! We are so honored to be joined by podcast expert and storytelle...r extraordinaire, Chuck Bryant (Stuff You Should Know, Movie Crush)! Take off your shoes, hold your breath, and join us on this wild ride!  You can rent DON'T BREATHE on Amazon TRAILER Recap begins @ 29:22 TW: discussion of sexual violence Follow the show: @TSDWpodcast on Twitter, TikTok, and Instagram. Check out our Patreon for bonus episodes and additional content! Rate Too Scary; Didn’t Watch 5 Stars on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and leave a review for Emily, Henley, and Sammy. Advertise on Too Scary; Didn't Watch via Gumball.fm Podcast artwork by @EllaTalkinSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy, and you're listening to Too Scary, Didn't Watch. Hi everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch, the horror movie recap podcast for those too scared to watch for themselves. I'm Emily, and I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Henley, and I'm also too scared to watch scary movies. I'm Sammy, and I love watching scary movies, and so I watch them so that you don't have to, and I tell you all about them. It's a fun little thing.
Starting point is 00:00:43 It's a fun little thing. It's a fun little thing. It's a fun little thing that we do. We like it. But before we get into that fun little thing that we do, did anything scary happen to us this week? Okay. I want to bring something up, which is that a few episodes ago, the three of us might have agreed pretty strongly that we did not want to watch Stranger Things. All three of us were like, all three of us were like, to watch Stranger Things. All three of us were like. Stranger Things. Don't make us. I want to clarify that.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Mine is mostly because I'm just completely overwhelmed by TV. And the fact that Stranger Things has the audacity. To make their episodes like fucking two and a half hours long. It's like I'm not. Yeah. I can't. It's overwhelming. It's too much.
Starting point is 00:01:20 And you know that I don't like to watch anything that I haven't already seen. So you guys kind of have excuses. I genuinely don't. I don't have an excuse. Except for, you know, your child and a busy life. Yeah, but I watch so much TV. Are you kidding me? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:37 So there were a lot of, like, DMs and comments from people being like, why? Like, being, like, upset. And, yeah. and comments from people being like, why? Like being like upset. And yeah, I just have to say that I have started watching it and I am loving it. I am really enjoying myself. It's super fun. I think the writing's great. The acting's great. I'm loving all the characters. Those kids are so brave. They're so ambitious. I admire them so much. You know what show needs the TSDW bump? Stranger Things. Okay. You don't have to be an asshole about it.
Starting point is 00:02:11 I'm just trying to correct the record. I'm trying to correct the record here. For anyone out there, I just want you to know I'm watching it. I'm watching it and I'm really having a good time. I don't know I mean Sammy and Emily You guys have
Starting point is 00:02:27 Emily you did watch it I gotta come clean I have started watching it I started watching it It's inescapable That is also part of why I was like I'm not gonna watch Cause it's like They put it out being like
Starting point is 00:02:43 You're gonna watch this I don't like being told that I have to do it. And it feels like that's their vibe. Yes. Stranger Things vibe is, well, you're all watching our show. And it's like, don't, you don't know that. But they do. And I am.
Starting point is 00:02:58 And I am not really liking it. I'm not really liking it. But I am. Whoa. Gauntlet prone. I think it's I really liked season one of Stranger Things. And then each subsequent season I've like felt fine
Starting point is 00:03:14 about highs and lows. So that's also I was like, well, I don't want to do that again. And the episodes are too long. They're absolutely too long. I've only seen two of them and they're so long. They're like an hour and a half each. two of them and they're so long. They're like an hour and a half each. Oh my god, they're so long. I think it's cool. I'm going to keep watching
Starting point is 00:03:30 because I'm interested and I want to know what the thing is. And it's not... I don't think it's very scary. I thought season one was very scary. Maybe I'm braver now. I probably am. But it's really horror-y. Because that's what I have been hearing is that it has more of the horror tones in this season, which that piques my interest.
Starting point is 00:03:55 There are some things that are gnarly, which I'm surprised by. Yeah, it's really surprising, actually, that it's rated like TV 14 because some of the deaths are extremely gruesome and they show you everything. Yeah. It's so anyway that, yeah, just come, we're coming clean. Two of the three of us have started watching stranger things.
Starting point is 00:04:17 I bet you will. You will. You will. I, I really like it. And Emily, I hope you start to like it more. I hope I do too. Cause you know I'll be watching it.
Starting point is 00:04:25 So I would love to enjoy the way that I'm spending my time. I would love that too. I would love that. Okay, besides my Stranger Things stuff, what's going on with you guys? Anything scary? You guys already know this, but something scary did happen to me. And that is that I started getting these really disturbing targeted ads I got them too I've been getting them too
Starting point is 00:04:48 I get them in my before my spider solitaire I get those same kind of games one of them which I'd say is the least disturbing one that I got starts with they're all animated phone games and
Starting point is 00:05:03 the solitaire one just starts with a close-up of a woman farting in a lawn. And then it inexplicably becomes a solitaire game and the farting seems to have nothing to do with it. Okay, but it got you interested. So maybe that's the whole point. But it's like sinister farting.
Starting point is 00:05:21 That's what's weird about it. They all have these dark undertones okay but that one i think is the least dark okay so the first one i hate women too yeah okay the first one i got is a woman looking at a negative pregnancy test sobbing and then immediately putting putting on a like a burglar cap breaking what do you call those little beanies with the eyeballs? Yeah, it's like a, I know what it is, but I.
Starting point is 00:05:48 A burglar cap. A burglar's cap. A burglar's cap. And she breaks into a hospital to steal a baby. And then I guess the interactive part of the game is that you then, she like breaks into a house to live with this stolen baby and you have to help her decorate the house. It's like boarding up the window that she broke to get in there oh my god they're so weird and this could just be a decorating game but no you've got to know why you have to have the backstory the the names of these games were so
Starting point is 00:06:23 funny too i like think that one was called jen's garden and i'm definitely feeding into the algorithm by watching these ads in their entirety with my jaw on the floor because i just can't look away increasingly upsetting then there's one where like someone's husband gets their like mistress pregnant and then she escapes with the mistress who's like nine months pregnant and it's in the middle of the winter to an abandoned house and you have to decorate that house. And that is a different game. That is a different game. I feel like a completely different company. I don't know. And yeah, I just don't know why Instagram one day was like, you know what Sammy would like? Me too. I'm getting them as well.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Yeah. You know what I did? I posted one of them as a story because I was so disturbed and I did get a lot of responses that were like, I've been getting this too, which made me feel better. you been googling thinking that i somehow brought this upon myself i was like i swear to god none of my search terms would provide reason for why this is happening so now i'm now i'm each time i see one i'm not letting it lure me in with its insanity i'm immediately saying not relevant to my interests block it don't show me this ad anymore. So they're going away now. But it was just a scary week for my Instagram sponsored ads. Yeah, that's terrifying. If anyone has gotten those ads and actually played the game, let us know because I am a little curious. It's pretty tempting.
Starting point is 00:07:55 It's pretty tempting. It's a little tempting. Jen's garden. Emily, what about you? Well, I guess that I'm watching Stranger Things And I'm not enjoying it What I was also going to say is I have been
Starting point is 00:08:11 So I haven't watched Riverdale in a while I hate to report It got overwhelming It got overwhelming there's too many episodes There's too many episodes And I couldn't keep up And the answer is that I could probably pick it up at any given moment And everything that happens
Starting point is 00:08:28 Is always so insane that it's like I don't need to whatever I'll figure it out So I probably I would like to re-watch it At some point anyway I don't watch the show But I have started having Riverdale dreams Again which is like out of nowhere I mean I follow them all on Instagram So I think about them a lot
Starting point is 00:08:44 So it's probably because they're still relevant. They exist in my brain. But this happened to me when I was watching the show every now and again. I would have dreams. I'm not in the universe of Riverdale. I am in the universe of
Starting point is 00:08:59 the... I'm like friends with the cast. Oh, so you're friends with them in real life. In my dream, in real life, we're like friends with the cast oh so you're friends with them in real life in my dream in real life we're like friends and so it's KJ not Archie it's KJ not Archie it's Kami not Veronica it's Lily not Betty
Starting point is 00:09:15 oh my god see it's been too long been too long been too long anyway but in so a thing about the dreams I'm having recently I've had a couple dreams this week where we're like hanging out but in the dreams I'm having recently, I've had a couple of dreams this week where we're like hanging out. But in the dream, I'm like aware that I am like much lower status than them. Like I have this like complex in the dream of like how we're friends. Don't leave me like I like I dream is like also like I feel myself in the dream having social anxiety about the friendship I have dream created for myself.
Starting point is 00:09:49 And I just don't think I like what that says about where I'm at mentally. I hate that. Emily, they would be so lucky to be friends with you. I think we would all have a good time. You definitely would. You absolutely would. You're definitely way more fun than they are, too, probably. Sorry. Okay, well, that's not a great way to start the friendship. You absolutely would. You're definitely way more fun than they are too, probably. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Okay, well, that's not a great way to start the friendship. That's true. And they're listening. And guys, hello. So it's just, yeah, I just wake up going, hey, I would like to be more confident in my dream self. You know? It's just, it's been, I've
Starting point is 00:10:26 flagged it, you know? I've flagged it. That's good awareness. I like that. That's good awareness. Yeah. So we'll see. Maybe tonight I'll dream and they'll be kissing my feet. We'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. Oh, man. I would love to know them.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Do you know what I mean? mean also wouldn't it be fun they seem they seem great they're also all like 10 years yeah that's fine it's just age is just a number baby as a wise werewolf played by taylor lautner once said age is just a number baby yeah it's true um okay should we get into this week's movie? Let's do it. All right. Let me tell you that this week's movie is Don't Breathe. Came out in 2016.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Directed by Fede Alvarez. Written by Fede Alvarez and Roto Seyegas. Starring Stephen Lang, Jane Levy, Dylan Minnette, and Daniel Zavado. And it is available to rent for $3.99. Ooh! And we are joined by a guest this week. We are so thrilled from a little podcast called Stuff You Should Know and a little retired podcast called Movie Crush.
Starting point is 00:11:40 We are so thrilled to have Chuck Bryant. Welcome! Woo-hoo! Woo! Hi, everybody! Hi, Chuck! We are so thrilled to have Chuck Bryant. Welcome. Hi, everybody. Hi, Chuck. Hi, Chuck. We're so happy you're here. I'm so happy to be here. I'm such a big fan and it is pure torture to have to sit there for the first six minutes of this show and not talk back to you like I do in my car. I have that feeling anytime I'm not on the pod and I listen. I listen. I'm like, wait a minute. I have that feeling anytime I'm not on the pod And I listen I listen, I'm like, wait a minute
Starting point is 00:12:07 I have thoughts I have thoughts I know the same thing I'm like, I can't just immediately talk to you guys So, it's tough, it is tough We're sorry to put you through that That's okay Chuck, did anything scary happen to you this week?
Starting point is 00:12:22 Yeah, so we have I live in Atlanta And it is a muggy, beastly, jungly place in the summertime. And as a result, Atlanta has a lot of cockroaches in the summer. Oh no. And some of them love our house because my wife is very much intent on living a natural lifestyle. So she doesn't believe in in spraying chemicals and stuff. We have two dogs and two cats, and so we don't spray anti-roach things on the outside of our home.
Starting point is 00:12:54 So some of them find their way into the home. And they come out at night, as most scary things do. When the lights come on, you might see one scatter or something, which is always a little creepy. And a roach is one of the few even insects that I'll kill. There's just four insects that I'll kill. And that's one of them. But I got in the shower at night and I was taking a shower. Yes, it's coming.
Starting point is 00:13:22 And I was, you know, the spray is hitting my face. Everything's going great. And I look up just in time to see a cockroach very quickly crawl over and around the shower head and hit the spray and launch at my face and body. Oh my God, that's the worst case scenario in a shower it's the worst case scenario i freaked the fuck out because i didn't know where it went and um i'm you know just dancing in the shower and screaming like a young child and it was frightening horrible that you're at your most vulnerable in that in that moment there There's no protection between you and the cockroach. Oh, I'm so happy it didn't, like, go in your mouth. Well, yeah. I mean, I had swim trunks on, of course, but.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Of course. Of course. But, yeah, the mouth is the, it's like seeing one drop off the ceiling above you. It's. Yeah. There's, like, a second of sheer terror. But, like, what a stupid cockroach. I mean, not that they're that smart, but, like, you. It's a good But like, what a stupid cockroach. I mean, not that they're that smart, but like you.
Starting point is 00:14:27 It's a good point. It's a stupid cockroach. It went in front of like shooting. I guess he got away with it. I didn't find this cockroach. That's the scariest thing. Oh, no. So it like disappeared?
Starting point is 00:14:39 I don't know. It was too big to go down the drain. So I have no idea. But I finished very quickly and got out of there. Oh, that's no, I'm so sorry. What are your guys's thoughts on,
Starting point is 00:14:48 on diatomaceous earth? Have you ever used that? It's a, it's, it's, I'd say probably the least humane way of killing a bug, but it's, it's safe.
Starting point is 00:14:58 It's safe for the other animals. It's safe for dogs and cats, but it works in this very, very brutal way where it gets little micro things inside of things with exoskeletons so it works on any like bug that has an exoskeleton and it basically like grinds them to death as they move oh my god holy shit isn't that horrifying yeah but it's safe for the cats and dogs. Oh my God. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:29 I mean, it kills them from the inside out, which is kind of a fun thought with cockroaches. But that's such a pain in the ass, Sammy. Do you have to put that everywhere? I know. It is. I'd almost rather just use the flip flops for a couple of months out of the year and then be done with it. Yeah. Yeah. I'm curious.
Starting point is 00:15:42 I just want to know what the other three bugs are. Oh. A mosquito better be on that list. Yeah. Mosquitoes, fleas, ticks, and cockroaches. That's a good list. I think all of which have been, we've covered on Stuff You Should Know at some point, and none of which provide a benefit to humanity.
Starting point is 00:15:58 They don't do anything good. They just spread disease, and they're nasty, and they're bad. What about a bed bug? Oh, I would kill the shit out of a bed bug if I saw one. But I've luckily never been up against one. Thank God. Okay, speaking of killing things. Chuck, tell us about your relationship to horror movies.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Do you like them? Do you love them? Those are the two options. Those are your two choices. I really, really like horror movies but i wouldn't i'm not horror movie guy if that makes sense like yes um i've seen a lot of the classics and uh but have not seen quite a few of the classics i grew up a very sort of sheltered uh southern baptist you know before before I broke free and much later in life or not that much later, but in like late high school, college years. And then so growing up, like I wasn't really allowed to see them.
Starting point is 00:16:57 So I kind of missed out on, you know, all the kids getting together and watching horror movies in their early teens. getting together and watching horror movies in their early teens. But I really love them now. And I love especially sort of the direction they've gone in the last 10 years or so. I think there's been a lot of really great horror movies. And then when I had Movie Crush going, we every October, we would really dive in and just do a lot of them and a lot of horror movie specials. So I got a chance to see a bunch of Italian horror movies and all these sort of things that i'd never seen before um but having said all that i'm not a horror movie dude like i don't um i would probably fail any horror movie quiz and don't really feel akin to horror movie
Starting point is 00:17:39 aficionados yeah i feel like this podcast is kind of for that type of person i feel like we're also not you know i mean we're we learn more about horror every day every day we come at it from from that perspective of like what's horror all about like we like it and we want to know more it's one of those things like there are certain interests you can have in adulthood that definitely become a persona. And, and horror is one of those things. So I know what you mean about being like,
Starting point is 00:18:09 I enjoy it, but I'm not, that is not one of my identifiers. You know, it's like loving Disney is one of those things are like horror or, um, there's more, but you know,
Starting point is 00:18:23 birding. I'm birding. And those are the three. And that was the last one I Birding I'm birding and those are the three And that was the last one I was thinking about is birding We all know birders My wife also doesn't watch them so You know I'm left to my own devices At home I will say though I do Make an effort to get to
Starting point is 00:18:39 The theater for any big Sort of like Ari Aster movie Or any of the kind of the big tent poles that I look forward to because I really, really enjoy seeing a horror movie in a theater full of people. Do you have a favorite horror movie? Oh boy. Sorry, sprung it on you.
Starting point is 00:18:56 I know. I mean, I certainly love Sam Raimi and sort of the Evil Dead movies. And as far as sheer terror horror I for the first time just a few years ago for movie crush saw finally saw Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Oh that's one of my favorites. And boy
Starting point is 00:19:13 that's a movie that just does not disappoint. It was so great. So good. On so many levels. I saw the one the other day and then listened to your episode on it. What's the new porno horror movie? Oh, X. Yeah, yeah, yeah, X.
Starting point is 00:19:28 And I quite enjoyed that. I thought that was a lot of fun. That's a fun one. Similar. Yeah, maybe Texas Chainsaw Massacre. I mean, that's just, or the Halloween movies, the early Halloween movies. Yeah. Those are all great.
Starting point is 00:19:38 It sounds like you were spared a little bit what a lot of our guests talk about which is when they were like six or seven being like brought to the movies or accidentally like a scarring experience a movie like um that just traumatized them and stayed with them forever and ever and ever and sometimes those people become horror movie guy they they i think that that um that situation that early on has a lasting impact in a way on a lot of people that never really happened a wizard of oz scared me about the flying monkeys and yeah just terrified me so that's where i was i can relate to that mine was pinocchio that reminds me tim my husband he was just telling us how he was terrified to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night when he was a little kid because he saw alice in
Starting point is 00:20:32 wonderland and he was convinced that the queen of hearts was going to come up through the toilet and grab him and bring him down through the toilet yeah for like he said for like a solid decade well my daughter is scared of the bathroom because of the fucking cockroaches now that makes sense oh no that was real you know it's a little more based in reality than the queen of farts coming out of the toilet only slightly um and then what what made you pick this week's movie was don't breathe is that a favorite of yours was this your first time seeing it well i mean you uh you guys send a list which is very helpful yeah but also agonizing for someone who over analyzes decisions i had a really really hard time and you would laugh at how much time i
Starting point is 00:21:21 spent pouring over this list narrowing it, trying to decide which one to do. I finally picked Don't Breathe because it is one that I did see in the theater and I hadn't seen since then. So it had been a minute and I thought, well, yeah, I'll see that again. And I just remember and was confirmed upon seeing it again that it was not so much horror, but sort of a kind of a bit of a Hitchcockian cat and mouse type of thriller. And I remember liking it in the theater and I really enjoyed it again. And, you know, we're recording here on Father's Day and there is an interesting as Sam. Yes, I was going to bring that up. It's a perfect Father's Day film.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Oh, what a lovey. Yeah, when we get to that part, you'll know. You'll know. You'll know. Okay, we'll all be clear soon. Oh, boy. But it's a good movie. I enjoyed it, so I thought I'd see it again.
Starting point is 00:22:18 One of my favorite subgenres of horror is a home invasion movie. So this was my first time seeing it. And yeah, I really enjoyed it. It's also like a tight hour and 28 minutes. You love that. It's great. How much do we love short movies, guys?
Starting point is 00:22:32 Oh my God. So much. I mean, this is the same length of episode of Stranger Things season four. It really is. Oh, yikes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Well, I have some trivia for us. The budget of this film was 9.9 million and, and it made $157.8 million. Holy shit. Huge success. Yeah, I didn't know that it was such a big success, but yeah, it was. It got an 88% on Rotten Tomatoes, 71% on Metacritic, and 7.1% on IMDb. Hard to crack into the sevens on IMDb, so pretty impressive.
Starting point is 00:23:00 on IMDb. Hard to crack into the sevens on IMDb. So pretty impressive. It was number one in the box in the U S box office for the first two weeks of release and stayed in the top 10 for six weeks. Wow. And Stephen Lang, who plays the main guy in the movie, he is blind in the film and he wore contact lenses that greatly restricted
Starting point is 00:23:24 his vision and the other actors there's a scene that's like a night visiony scene that they also had to wear contact lenses that made their pupils look bigger but also like made it very hard for them to see so all the
Starting point is 00:23:39 scenes in this movie where people aren't seeing like they for real can't really see whoa that's wild my brain immediately goes to whenever i hear about stuff like that in in a horror movie i'm like that's the exact same that's like that in and of itself is a plot for a horror movie these actors filming it and like restricting their vision and then someone's gonna come in and try to kill all them and they're not gonna know what's happening and they're going to think it's part of the movie. Seems scary. And a sequel came out last year and I don't think it
Starting point is 00:24:10 did very well. I did not see it. The budget for that was $15 million and it made $47.3 million, so not as big of a success. 44% on Rotten Tomatoes, so I think it lacked that word of mouth like, oh, this movie's so great. And COVID, too. It's messed with all of those movies. Yes, that is another factor.
Starting point is 00:24:26 That is true. I do want to see that now, though, because I'm... Yeah. I don't even know what the plot is, Sammy. I don't know if you do, but... Mm-mm. I mean, surely this guy doesn't get home invaded again, does he? That'd be quite a coincidence.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Yeah, that would be... It would be quite a coincidence. Seems like maybe that is probably what could have happened, and people are like, really? Yeah, I feel like it kind of in a way has to be that. But then it also is like, yeah, pretty crazy. But yeah, I'm curious. The only way that works is if right after it happens, he's called the blind man in the movie. If he just looks right at the lens and goes, are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:25:02 Not again. I gotta move. not again okay that's all I got so should we watch this trailer yes let's watch it I'm scared your lips look sore that's how you're making your cash out there what do you say you and I move away from mom together? It's a promise. You're leaving?
Starting point is 00:25:29 Yeah, as soon as I have the money. When are you coming back? Never. Yo, I got our ticket out of here. Rumor is this guy is sitting on at least 300k. Boom! That's our guy. Wait, is he blind? he messed up to rob a blind guy isn't it just because he's blind don't mean he's insane bro
Starting point is 00:26:02 guys money's probably in there. Who's there? Stay right there. How many of you are there? It's just me, man. All right? Just let me go, please. Okay, I swear to God.
Starting point is 00:26:40 He's coming. Now you're going to see what I see. Now you're going to see what I see. Oh, my God. This is so good and scary. This looks so scary. So scary. Like, I cannot believe how scary this movie looks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:03 I mean, the use of silence in horror movies like that's why i feel like a quiet place is also one of the like more stressful movies to watch and in this as well where it's just like there's so many scenes that the whole point is you have to be completely silent and it's so tense and stressful and yeah it was very very effective must have been a very fun one to see in theaters because you can feel the whole room and it's quiet and then something happens. And yeah, man. And, you know, sometimes in the theater you can get a nice public moment of tension breaking. I remember when I saw it, especially if you go see movies in New York City, which is the most fun, the most fun crowd. I saw The Witch in New York.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Have you all covered that yet? Yeah. Episode two. It was early New York City, which is the most fun crowd. I saw The Witch in New York. Have you all covered that yet? Yeah. Episode two. It was early on. Yeah. Okay. I'll have to listen to that one. The one scene where the crow is basically breastfeeding.
Starting point is 00:27:57 I was in New York when I saw that and it was so quiet. And this young lady up in the second row uh just very loudly went that is so fucked up and everybody died laughing and it was just like we all needed her to say that in that moment and like i wanted to give her a hug yeah it was pretty great uh and this is kind of one of those movies where it's so quiet in the theater i I'm really glad I saw it that way. Wow. I'm so excited to get into this because I, for whatever, maybe it's just because it was really popular when it came out. I knew the premise of a blind guy home invasion and that he was probably going to fuck them
Starting point is 00:28:36 up. But I didn't. It seems like there's more to this story. And I did not see that coming. And I'm excited to find out what that means. Those big pupils, too, was cool. Yeah. I could see that in the trailer.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Yeah. I was like, ooh, freaky. What's that guy from? He looks so familiar to me. That's Dylan Minnette. He's in the most recent Scream. Thank you. That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:29:01 He's also from 13 Reasons Why, right? Oh, yes. That show on Netflix that was very popular. I did not see that, but yes, he is familiar. He broods very well. He's a good brooder. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. He has that sort of furrowed brow constant situation. I'm really scared and nervous. In the past few years, I have hit a point where I only want to be wearing clothes that are
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Starting point is 00:31:45 with 30% off your first order. Don't forget, that's HelloBello.com slash TooScary. I'm excited. I'm pumped. All right. Are you ready? Ready? Yeah, let's do it. So the movie starts out with this high up drone shot of a neighborhood, sort of an abandoned neighborhood street. And as it gets a little lower, you realize that you see this lone guy walking down the street, dragging this blonde young woman by her hair, basically down the middle of the road. And then it just kind of cuts and there's obviously no explanation what's coming. And then the next thing you see are our three our cat burglar crew
Starting point is 00:32:25 who, by the way, the name I think you were looking for, Sammy, is Ski Mask. Oh, Ski Mask. Burglar hat. Burglar hat. Burglar cap. Beanie with the little holes for eyes. I think that's what he said at one point.
Starting point is 00:32:40 A proper cap that goes all the way over your face. I went descriptive. Yep. They're not wearing their burglar caps, but they are a cat burglar crew. It is Rocky, Alex and Money. Rocky. Who is that woman who plays her? Jane Levy. Jane Levy.
Starting point is 00:32:59 What's she been in? She was in the other Fede Alvarez movie, The Evil Dead Remake. What's she been in? She was in the other Fede Alvarez movie, the Evil Dead remake. And then she's in that one like network TV show where they sing Jane something. Glee? Jane the Virgin? No, that's a different show.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Where they sing? I don't know. I don't know enough about it, so I shouldn't have brought it up. Oh, is that some playlist? Somebody's. Oh, yes. Is it her? Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:24 I don't know what that is. And again, it's like the ski mask all over again. We're just giving you some little details about what she's in. We won't tell you the actual. Little nuggets. Little nuggets. Figured out. Her name is Rocky, though, and she's really great. Has a very expressive face, which is key for this movie.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Dylan Mnett, like you mentioned, is Alex. And then a dude that I wasn't too familiar with, although you look familiar, named Daniel Zavado as Money. He was in Station Eleven most recently. I really liked him in that. Oh, that's exactly what he's in. Yep. God, I love that show. I love that show.
Starting point is 00:33:56 It was great. Not scary. I hope y'all saw it. It was so good. My favorite show. Not scary. I thought it was going to be scary. I mean, not scary, scary.
Starting point is 00:34:04 It was good. Not scary, scary. A lot of human emotions, but not too scary. Which gonna be scary i mean not scary scary it was not scary scary a lot of human human emotions but not too scary which can be scary yeah yeah uh all right so you see them and they have just broken into and i say broken into uh but they had the keys and knew the alarm code to this very swanky high-end place uh as they break in you can tell there's friction right out of the gate because Alex lays down the rules that you can tell are sort of the usual rules
Starting point is 00:34:30 they play by. Don't steal any cash. We don't take more than $10,000 worth of stuff. To which Money replies, yeah, whatever, Judge Judy. Which is a recurring theme that will happen in this movie.
Starting point is 00:34:45 That's a little weird. Like he's in law school or something, but I don't think he is. Judge Judy. Yeah, it's very strange. So those are the rules they set about robbing the place. Laptops, jewelry, all that kind of stuff. Rocky is trying on some awesome clothes. There's a very unnecessary shot where money's thing is that he masturbates in the house
Starting point is 00:35:10 and it shows him just sort of spraying a very, to my eye, large amount of semen all over the living room floor for some reason. Gross. Didn't need to be in there. Just setting his vibe just so you know yeah exactly i guess it does say a lot about a character but yeah i didn't need that um uh they finish up and then they throw as they leave they throw a rock back through the uh the front glass door in order to set the alarm off uh and then when they're this sort of
Starting point is 00:35:43 a key moment happens that just put a pin in when they're riding in the car on the way home, a lady bug is on Rocky's hand. And there's a very clear shot of this lady bug who takes wing and flies out the window. So that'll come back. There's a lady bug theme. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Okay. Okay. So then we pick up with them. there's a ladybug theme. You guys. Okay. Okay. It's pretty special. Okay. All right. So then we pick up with them. They're all in money's jacked up old Camaro and they're smoking a joint. And this is when we get a lot of exposition, just sort of learning about who these characters are. And we learned that Rocky is going to leave Detroit as soon as possible to go to California with money.
Starting point is 00:36:23 And you kind of feel like they're together at this point, but I don't think it's confirmed quite yet. And then Alex says that he can't go because his dad is in Detroit. It's setting it up almost like he's taking care of him or something, but I don't think that's the case. So I'm not sure why he can't leave dad. Yeah, I agree. It's a little weird.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Nice Father's Day movie. There you go. There you go. So far, so good. Just wait. Then Alex goes home. His dad isn't there. So he goes in his dad's office and grabs the Heide key and unlocks his drawer and places
Starting point is 00:36:58 what were the keys to the place that they just broke into on this little key rack in his drawer. And it shows a picture of his dad who looks like he's a cop or something but later on we learn is a security guy so he has keys to all these places and that's how they rob all these places they just walk in that helps uh then we go to a warehouse where money is meeting up with the guy i guess he's sort of the the gang boss that sells the stuff some underground pawn shop type thing yeah i'm not sure why they even needed this guy but i guess he moves the stuff and takes a 40 cut uh he's he's kind of russian or some sort of eastern european
Starting point is 00:37:40 which is a little tropey there's a lot of fun tropes in this movie. Yep. And says, if you want money, steal money. Good point. Because he's complaining. Money is complaining about the lack of, you know, the 60% is not cutting up three ways like he likes. Yep. So he gives him a tip. And then, and I want Sammy's take on this.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Then we go to a restaurant or cafeteria with our three cat burglars where he's going to tell them about this tip. But there's not another human in this place. Oh, it's just empty. And I couldn't figure it out. They have food, but there's not a diner. It looks like an Ikea almost dining room. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there's nobody there.
Starting point is 00:38:22 There's nobody working there. Oh, I didn't even like really notice. But now that you yeah it's just what the hell is that place they forgot to put extras in the budget that's totally what it seems like his production screwed up and fetty alvarez i guess is like fuck nobody's here today but we gotta get we gotta get the scene no it's an empty it's an empty place i guess i mean that be empty. That's better than having the grips and electrics sitting around who are clearly grips and electrics. Like rolls of duct tape on their belts.
Starting point is 00:38:52 I'm surprised they even did shots where you could tell. You'd think they'd just do close-up shots so you don't notice. Wide shots of a huge empty dining room. That's so funny. That is a little unsettling. You know? Maybe it was intentional Sure
Starting point is 00:39:08 We'll just say that so anyway that's a little side note So money tells them About this tip which is there's a guy Who lives in a house by himself He's a loner he's an army veteran And this is where we learn That Alex's dad has a security Company but the guy
Starting point is 00:39:26 has no family uh the house is a dump in a abandoned part of detroit uh which is really smart i think kind of a smart way to set this whole movie up as far as you know when you're making a movie in one location with a minimal cast it's and detroit is or at least was abandoned in many places. So it's kind of a smart setup, I think. Yeah. But we learn here that he had a daughter who was killed in a car crash by a preppy girl and got
Starting point is 00:39:55 what money says is a big cash settlement. Alex corrects him and says settlement. And money says, blow me your honor. So again, with the judge jokes. Very strange. Very weird. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Thing to include. I have no idea why they judge things. Yeah, there's no mention of any law school, nothing like that. That would have totally made sense if Alex was like a budding law student. Right. Maybe that was cut out or something. Maybe. He says it so many times.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Like, it's very, very weird. So funny. But supposedly there's $300,000 in cash there from this cash sediment. And Alex is immediately nervous. And we get the explanation on the 10 grand thing. He says anything over $10,000 is major larceny. But Rocky is like, we're not going to get caught. She needs to get to California.
Starting point is 00:40:49 And so you have your other trope, which is like one last job. Yeah. And then we're out kind of thing. What could go wrong? What could go wrong? Just wait. Just wait. So Alex leaves, says he's not going to do it.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Then he goes home, does a little Googling. He reads up on the story of this guy, confirms he got a six-figure settlement. And they not only show the headline that says six-figure settlement, he reads it out loud and then shuts his computer and then says to himself again, six-figure settlement. So we really know. We get it. We know. We know. There's a lot of money in this house.
Starting point is 00:41:30 We've heard it five times now, I think. And he gazes into the middle distance and you can tell he's in at that point. We move over to Rocky's house. And this is where we get her very sad kind of backstory. And this is where we get her very sad kind of backstory. She is in a sad situation in a sort of trashy house with a trashy mom, with a Nazi boyfriend with swastika tattoos and like half consumed 40 ounces on the table. Yeah. And there's a little sister there. It's a cute little girl named Diddy.
Starting point is 00:42:01 And it becomes clear that Rocky is trying to provide an escape for herself in Diddy. And it becomes clear that Rocky is trying to provide an escape for herself and Diddy. And the mom looks over at one point and says, hey, I know you got money and your lips look sore. So I know this is how you've been making your money and does the
Starting point is 00:42:19 hand in the mouth blowjob sort of thing. Oh, gross. Gross. So that's Mom. Sounds lovely. And that's why this is a Father's Day film. Not a Mother's Day film. Not a Mother's Day film. Not a Mother's Day film. It's all a little over the top,
Starting point is 00:42:35 you know, complete with like the Nazi boyfriend, but, you know. Yeah, sure. We have to make it a very bad scene. So I get it. Rocky gets a text that the job is on and she goes over and tells Diddy kind of very quietly, like, we're going to California, little sis. Like, don't you worry.
Starting point is 00:42:53 All right. So now we finally go to the neighborhood. It is indeed abandoned. We see some creepy shots of it all sort of overgrown with grass and all these empty boarded up houses. And they are kind of across the street hiding and checking things out. It's mainly money checking things out.
Starting point is 00:43:09 And Alex and Rocky are in the car and we get the story that Rocky's father had left, which started her mom drinking. And when Rocky cried a lot, her mom would lock her in the trunk of the car for hours at a time. Jesus. Right. You're a mom. You understand this.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Yeah, this is, you know, I've only done that once or twice as Silas. Oh, yeah. You gotta have a kid to understand, you know, it's not something you're supposed to do. It's not normal. Oh, that's so sad. That is tragic. That is really, really sad. It is.
Starting point is 00:43:42 And that kind of sets something up a little bit for later on too is she gonna be good really good at hiding in small dark spaces i would say she's medium okay at it medium okay but there is a trunk that figures later on so i mean it's a smart script i think there's i think so yeah it's like Yeah, it's setting things up. What's this word? I feel like Henley and I, I couldn't remember it last time. Economic mask. Efficient, efficient, tight. Again, less than 90 minutes. Everything, every little thing counts. Yeah. Make everything count, baby. of on the nose tropes, which is always, I think, kind of fun in horror movies. So Alex is talking to her. She reveals that she has a brand new black and white ladybug tattoo on her wrist. And we learn that when she was hiding in the trunk, not hiding, when she was forcibly locked in this trunk, when she was a kid, there was a little bitty hole and a ladybug
Starting point is 00:44:43 friend would come and visit her. Oh, so she has a connection to lady. God damn it. They're really like twisting the knife with the emotions in here, aren't they? For sure. And she says that when she gets to California, she will color it in. And in a very dramatic quote that I really am not sure I even understand why, says, and that will be the last time that I mark my body. It is so like, what? Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:08 She has all kinds of tattoos. Like, all right, I guess you're done after this one. Yeah, okay. They didn't really need this extra bit of motivation for her after we saw her home life, but they did it anyway. So Alex reveals if they pull the job off that he's going to be going to
Starting point is 00:45:23 California with them. Money comes back at this point, confirms that there's no one in the neighborhood. And the guy hasn't left his house in five days. And he said, we should just do it with him in the house because I can bring my chloro bomb. Right after he says that, a huge Rottweiler that plays a comically big role in this movie like almost kujo size role in this movie there's a great jump scare there where this rottweiler attacks the car then we hear someone whistle for a dog and we see as he's known in imdb the blind guy or the blind man aka the dude from avatar walking with a seeing eye cane.
Starting point is 00:46:07 And then they all realize that he's blind. And Alex, I think, says something like I guess he said in the trailer that it's pretty fucked up to rob a blind guy. Don't you think? And he does not get that returned. They all think it's fine. I would be if I were them. And it sounds like they should be concerned that this man has a massive violent dog. Yeah, that's a good
Starting point is 00:46:27 thing to recognize. Yeah, so they decide to proceed anyway. Of course. They wait for night to come, which in retrospect was a big mistake. He's blind! Yeah, what the hell? Really no reason to. It's so funny. And even later on, Money turns
Starting point is 00:46:44 the lights on at one point and says, hey, what does it matter? The guy's blind. I was like, well, then why didn't you do this during the hell? Really no reason to. It's so funny. And even later on, Money turns the lights on at one point and says, hey, what does it matter? The guy's blind. I was like, well, then why didn't you do this during the day? That's really funny. When there's no chance of being locked in the dark. Damn. But they wait till night.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Money says the lights are out. He must be asleep. Alex says, that doesn't mean anything. The guy's blind. He keeps the lights out, which is a good point. And they all say, but it's 2 a.m. He keeps the lights out, which is a good point. And they all say, but it's 2 a.m. He's got to be asleep. Let's go take care of the dog
Starting point is 00:47:09 first, which they do by feeding the dog doggy treats laced with something to knock it out. And it works. Okay. For a while. For now. For now. I mean, you know this dog's going gonna come back. I don't think I'm
Starting point is 00:47:25 spoiling anything. So they feed the dog the treats. It's out. It turns out the guy has four locks on his front door and they only have the one key. And so they reckon that he's just paranoid because he's got all this money.
Starting point is 00:47:42 So they say, let's just go in the side door. Alex uses a key to the side door, but it doesn't work there either uh and then money notices one of those i guess cellar doors one of those sort of hatch doors leading down to the basement cellar uh but that is locked from the inside so it uh feels like they can kind of reach in and tell that it's just like bolted shut. Then Rocky spots a window from this on the second floor. The only one that doesn't have bars. And she volunteers to get hoisted up and go in that way. They're getting a lot of signs to not go in this house.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Yeah. Lots of bars. Bars on the windows. Multiple locks. Big, scary dog. Hmm. Yeah. They should not be doing this.
Starting point is 00:48:23 So she has to break the glass to open the window. And the alarm going off or not going off plays a very significant role kind of throughout this movie. Because she has 30 seconds to get in and get the alarm off. So you have a nice little ticking clock mechanism that happens. And in a very nice sort of clever Hitchcockian way, she steps on a piece of broken glass with her shoe and it gets stuck in her shoes. So her first like five or six steps is making this sort of click sound on the floor. And she realizes that's probably not a good idea, even though they haven't talked about
Starting point is 00:49:00 it. I think they all kind of figured this guy has super hearing because that is something that can happen when you lose your sight as your other senses, I think, can ratchet up. So she's smart enough to remove that glass. But we've now sort of really established that not making any noise is going to be a real key here to this job going off. She does turn off the alarm with the remote fob, but you have to be within, you know, 10 feet of it or something, which is also going to come back in order for that thing to work.
Starting point is 00:49:32 So, she's in there alone. She walks by a mantle with clearly some framed pictures of his daughter, one of which is upside down, like a studio portrait that's upside down, which is kind of unsettling and creepy. But then you realize this guy's blind. So then it's kind of sad. Right. Like he doesn't know that this picture is upside down. Yeah. How did you feel about that, Sammy?
Starting point is 00:49:56 I didn't think about it until right now. And now it feels sad. Yeah. I thought it was just like meant to be a little creepy. And then I was, yeah, duh, he's blind, it doesn't know. And then that's, yep. Yeah, we notice the upside down picture. And she just kind of moves through the house.
Starting point is 00:50:14 And Money and Alex are waiting outside. And we get a little bit more personal detail. We for sure know that Money and Alex, I'm sorry, Money and Rocky are together. because he says, that's my bitch in there. And so now that's confirmed. And Alex accuses Money basically not caring about Rocky. And you can tell that Alex probably has a crush on her or something because Money very angrily replies, be a good friend and stay in the friend zone. I'm loving his character so far. Incredible.
Starting point is 00:50:47 They all take their shoes off when they first get in and leave them on the kitchen floor by the door, as you do. And we probably know that that's going to lead to some like glass and feet cutting on the floor, but it never really does. I was waiting for that the whole movie. Yep. Didn't happen. We go by a room. They're kind of just walking around at this point which allows the viewer i think to sort of get oriented a little bit uh even though it's a kind
Starting point is 00:51:10 of an old victorian the craftsman two-story so there's um there's no open floor plans like there's just lots of hallways and rooms uh like any good horror movie should have yep uh but they do show a pretty obvious shot of skylights in the kitchen uh and then another obvious setup shot of a laundry room that has a on the wall sort of the pegboard where you hang yeah tools so that you see lots of sharp things and hammers and hatchets and you know that's you know that's coming into play at some point. Oh no. This is when money turns on the lights because who cares, right?
Starting point is 00:51:50 So the lights are on but it's not, you know, it's a creepy old house so it's not super well lit still. And they're canvassing the house. We do notice another obvious shot of a bell, like a little ringy bell above a door that is clearly attached
Starting point is 00:52:07 to like a wire but there's no explanation of what that's all about either there is a door with a big padlock on it uh they are on the main floor there's not much of interest down there so money goes upstairs by himself and fully just walks into a bedroom that has a television on, which is a VHS playing from years ago of a young girl talking to mommy, which is obviously the daughter who has been hit and killed. We see the guy asleep in the bed. Money opens the door and basically just steps in anyway. So he's in there in the room with this guy asleep and this is where he rigs his chlorobomb which is a bottle of water
Starting point is 00:52:51 that he pours some powder into, it starts fizzing, he puts the cap on and you can tell it's getting kind of smoky in there and he pokes a hole in it and puts his finger over it and as soon as he jabs the pin through, the camera reveals that this dude is fully fucking sitting up in bed now and staring at the guy. Money freezes. The guy just sort of sits there for
Starting point is 00:53:16 a minute. And there are quite a few shots like this where he just sort of stops and is listening and even at one point kind of smelling the air. And, you know, all these heightened senses. And in the movie theater, it's like totally quiet, you know, and people have their hands over their mouths.
Starting point is 00:53:32 So they're trying not to breathe, obviously. So it's really kind of some fun Hitchcockian stuff. Yeah. So money freezes. The guy just sits there for a moment doing this. Money manages to not make any noise. And the guy turns off the television and lays back down money very gently sets the bottle down takes his finger off
Starting point is 00:53:50 the cap in the room just starts filling with this smoke and he backs out and shuts the door so money comes downstairs starts making uh a comical amount of noise all of a sudden. It's ridiculous how loud he gets. It's like, okay, let's maybe give it a couple minutes. Yeah, something. He's immediately like, he's out now. Like, we're all good. And it's like, Jesus Christ. It's like he was trying to be louder than usual even. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:16 It was very strange. I mean, he's a very confident guy. That's money's vibe, yeah. Yeah. His name is money. Excuse me. Yeah, and we've already seen him masturbate on a floor. Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:29 This is Money. This is what Money does. This is in character for him. Yeah, totally in character. Everything tracks. So they go back to the door that's padlocked, and Money uses a crowbar to open it, which makes a lot of noise. He can't get it open. He says he has something for the job, pulls out a gun.
Starting point is 00:54:45 noise he can't get it open he says he has something for the job pulls out a gun everyone is very freaked out because they don't use guns uh especially alex aka judge judy points out judge judy is thinking about the potential exactly implications the legal implications of this now we have a weapon yeah he says having a gun means that this guy is has the legal right to kill us now uh which i think in most states you kind of can anyway if someone is home invading you. Gun or no gun. I don't know the laws like Alex does, but Gotta go to law school. We all
Starting point is 00:55:13 gotta go to law school. Just like Alex. Definitely a law student. So he tries to get Rocky to leave with him. He's like, I'm out of here, basically. She refuses because she needs that money. And then money, I'm out of here. Basically, she refuses because she needs that money. And then money, the dude, not the financial concept, money shoots the lock. And now the door is open.
Starting point is 00:55:41 They very slowly open the door and then they turn around and the guy is right there again. Like this dude is so ninja like and so quiet like there's so many times where all of a sudden he's just standing right next to them so ninja man is literally five feet from them it's not like he's 15 feet down the hall he's like standing right next to him right next to him oh my god uh and money at this point like money realizes that he knows that they've been sort of had i don't think i I mentioned I mentioned that Alex actually did leave. Yeah. Alex leaves. Oh, he's like on his way out.
Starting point is 00:56:11 This happens in quick order of events here. He's like Alex leaves. And then immediately the blind man is there. Yeah, exactly. Thank you for that. So it's just money and Rocky and this guy. Money finally starts talking and says, just chill out, man. I mean, it's kind of quick thinking.
Starting point is 00:56:28 He said, I was wasted and wandered into the house and I'm sorry. Can I just leave? Can I just leave? And you think for a second that this might work. And then blind man steps on the broken lock on the floor with his bare feet and like kind of, you know, his little toe fingers can tell what it is. So the jig is up at this point. Money points the gun at him and says not to move and then cocks a gun, which is a very
Starting point is 00:56:58 tropey movie thing because you don't re-cock a gun like this. Like once you've cocked it, you just shoot a lot of bullets. So I don't even know if you can re-cock a gun like this. Like once you've cocked it, you just shoot a lot of bullets. So I don't even know if you can re-cock a gun like this. That's sort of beside the point. It's just sort of. Interesting. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:57:12 Yeah. It's just kind of a little movie trope. Well, and it's helpful here because it like lets the blind man know that this is a gun. Yes, exactly. So we need that little noise. And I should point out too,
Starting point is 00:57:22 that, you know, who's the guy that plays him? The blind man? Steven Lang. Steven Lang. Yeah lang yeah i mean you know how this guy looks he's like cut out of steel yes just very muscular and scary muscle a very intimidating physical physical presence yeah yeah then he's wearing you know the the tight white undershirt tank top and uh I think money and everyone knows like this guy is much stronger than we are. But we have a gun. So so the guy is it's very creepy. You know, he's got a gun on him, but he keeps just walking very slowly toward money, even though there's a gun in his face.
Starting point is 00:57:57 And he knows because he's heard it. And he just keeps saying, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, as he's getting closer and closer. And money's kind of backing up with the gun and he fires a warning shot. But the guy keeps coming so close that he just grabs the gun from him or grabs his wrist and puts him against the wall and proceeds to try and choke him out. Wait, was the was the blind man saying, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Yeah. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. Which is kind of creepy? Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, which is kind of creepy. Yeah, that's really creepy.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Kind of like, I'm sorry, I'm going to have to kill you. Yeah, like, I'm sorry, I'm going to kill you. And he does actually like look a little sorry. Well, I think he is. I mean, I will say this, like from everything we learn in the movie, he's a very complex. Like, we don't know who we're supposed to be rooting for at this point like well that's the thing like the whole moral setup is like they're robbing a blind guy that got money from his daughter dying which is like a veteran and like as far as they know like he's done nothing wrong right and the audience should be thinking these people are pieces of shit right for doing this yeah yeah yep But this flips back and forth. I mean, that's kind of the one thing I liked about the movie is there are a lot of sort of ethical and moral flip flops on who you think you should be rooting for. Yep.
Starting point is 00:59:22 money is still you know he's getting choked out saying I'm gonna fucking kill you man I'm gonna kill you when in fact money is in really bad shape at this point and clearly outmatched and then he flips and starts begging for his life the guy says how many other people are here and he says it's just me it's just me
Starting point is 00:59:38 the guy releases his grip and you feel like he might actually be letting money go and there's a little pause in the tension and then he just shoots him through the back of the head basically. Oh, he's dead. Shit. Whoa, so he's dead.
Starting point is 00:59:54 So he's dead. Wow, money. And Rocky has to like react to this silently. She's right next to it and cannot make a sound. But he doesn't know she's there. No, exactly. So she's just seeing her boyfriend get killed and having to just not let a peep out. Yay.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Which again, Jane Levy, she's great. These facial expressions. And Alex is gone. Alex hears the gunshot and turns back around. Yeah. Rocky has her boyfriend dead at her feet. And the dude is still standing right there. And she very slowly backs out of the room
Starting point is 01:00:26 and hides in a closet the blind man starts freaking out and punching holes in the wall clearly upset this is when Alex comes back in and in that great shot from the trailer this is when Alex kind of rounds the corner and the guy is like coming down the hall right at him
Starting point is 01:00:41 and Alex just kind of skinnies up against the wall and he walks right by him ooh I just got chills on that one uh so alex sees uh money is dead on the floor and for some reason he walks back toward the guy uh who is now like padlocking the kitchen from the inside. So he's essentially, I think, suspicious that there are other people there and he is locking everyone in. Oh, God. Alex slips
Starting point is 01:01:12 into a bathroom and hides down by the sink. The guy comes in right behind him and they're both in there together again. The guy has a big board, plywood board that he's nailing up over the windows. And in the meantime, Rocky is in this closet on her cell phone
Starting point is 01:01:27 and texts Alex. He shot money. He texts her back, says, where are you? She says I'm in the closet. And she tries to sneak out, but the guy quickly appears and comes in the closet with her where he reveals a safe hidden behind a false door.
Starting point is 01:01:44 And she sees him enter the combination. And like there's cash in there. So she now knows the combo and where the money is. Okay. So Alex sneaks out of the bathroom where he was hiding into the closet with Rocky. And they're very quietly talking. And he basically says, hey, we just need to call the cops and come clean at this point. We'll probably be OK and not get too in trouble or whatever.
Starting point is 01:02:11 After all, we're like, you know, white kids in Detroit, like what's going to happen to us? I think that's kind of the subtext. Yeah. But she says, no, like I've seen the money in the safe. She gets up and opens it and empties the cash in a little backpack. And it's a lot more than 300 grand, according to Alex. He says it's about a million bucks. Wowee.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Still probably not worth it for whatever the hell is about to happen. Yeah. I mean, a million dollars. That'll last you a little while. In this economy? In California? In California? In this economy?
Starting point is 01:02:40 In this economy? In California? In this economy? In this economy. So Alex says the only way out is through that storm cellar that was locked from the inside. So now you know that they have to go into the cellar, into the basement. Uh-oh. Rocky moves toward the basement door. Right as she gets there, the dude barges out of the basement again.
Starting point is 01:03:02 And she's standing right there next to him as he's cleaning up money's body uh and alex is in there too now uh alex starts slowly backing out and you get the creaky floorboard oh boy uh you knew that was coming and everything goes super quiet again and the dude drops money and starts just sort of pointing the gun like right past them as they're in the room standing there silently. You really do hold your breath, too. It's a good title for this film. I really was like catching myself.
Starting point is 01:03:33 Yeah, like not breathing. He can't know I'm watching. Don't want to give away my position. Yeah, well, that's what he's doing. He's listening for some direction to shoot at. And then you hear the money cell phone ring and buzz. He instinctively shoots down at it and goes over and picks up the cell phone right in front of Rocky and Alex and then just goes about his business, dragging money's body down the hallway. to learn is that little rec room with all the hammers and stuff. The laundry room. Yep. So this is their chance to go into the
Starting point is 01:04:06 basement, which they do. They open the door, though, and instead of stairs, it's just a void with a ladder on the wall. Oh, that's a bad sign. Yeah, I don't like that at all. I don't like it. I don't like
Starting point is 01:04:22 it. Didn't think a basement could get worse, but that makes it worse. This one's a worse, but. That makes it worse. This one's a pretty bad one. That makes it worse, yeah. This sounds more like you don't want something to get out than you're trying to get in. Ah. Yeah. Very nice.
Starting point is 01:04:42 So, they make their way through the basement, which is just a maze of, like, really tall shelving everywhere. So, there's lots of just little, you know little fake hallways that they have to wind around. Then Alex finds the power box, the breaker box, and turns the lever on and we get some sort of minimal but creepy fluorescent buzzing lights on. The scariest of all lights.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Henley loves a fluorescent light. Haunts me. Haunts me. My nightmares. lights henley loves a fluorescent light haunts me haunts me super creepy my nightmares so meanwhile the dude is in the rec room uh he gets out a drill he's doing something with a drill uh i guess he's trying to fix the lock for the basement or something and then he goes out and starts sniffing like a dog in the air in the kitchen and has and smells his nose leads him to their shoes on the ground so he feels three pairs of shoes oh no it's very clever the way they sort of uh parse this stuff out i think yeah yeah we knew those shoes were going to come back but
Starting point is 01:05:40 didn't expect it to be that that way yeah i totally thought it was a diehard you know walking on glass yeah oh yeah so he immediately goes to the safe uh opens it finds that it's empty now and proceeds to freak the fuck out uh and you know that like shit is getting real he knows there's two people in there and that they have his money. Fuck. So we go back. Fuck, fuck, fuck indeed. So we go back to the basement. They're walking around looking for the storm door
Starting point is 01:06:13 and this is where we get the big sort of reveal of the movie. She's shining her cell phone light around and all of a sudden out of nowhere this fucking young woman lunges for her shackled
Starting point is 01:06:30 to this sort of harness system that is attached to a wire up through the ceiling that is attached to the fucking bell nailed it oh fuck and you see that she's in like Nailed it Oh fuck Can you see that she's in like
Starting point is 01:06:48 The room she's in is basically Makeshift soundproofed Like the walls are lined with Couch cushions and pillows And shit like thick pillow It's so creepy And there's a lot of like house Plants and it's
Starting point is 01:07:04 Clear that like this is her home. And he has tried to make it like. A little bit nice for her. Yeah. I guess so. Because there's lots of plants everywhere. It is so creepy, though. And she can like move around.
Starting point is 01:07:17 She's basically on the leash. Yeah. Yeah. Like the harness is attached to the ceiling. And so she has like a radius that she can move around in this padded room with her plants. And that's. I hate this. With her plants.
Starting point is 01:07:30 God damn it. Could the plants be there to like give her oxygen? I mean. Maybe as little makeshift air purifiers. I'm like, what is she? Is this the girl that killed his daughter? Or is it his daughter? Or is it his daughter? Or is it his daughter?
Starting point is 01:07:47 I have to say, y'all are good. You've seen enough of these now. Or you've not seen enough of these now. We've learned of enough of them. You've had enough horror movies described to you over time. Yes, exactly. Also, you guys did say it was a Father's Day film. Exactly. Oh, do you did say it was a Father's Day film. So.
Starting point is 01:08:05 Exactly. Oh, do you just wait? So that rings the bell, of course, which all of a sudden he's just sort of up there sitting in his chair, gathering his thoughts. And now he knows that they know his dirty little secret in the basement. Now he knows that they know his dirty little secret in the basement. And the camera pulls back to reveal again that she's in this room. Her mouth is in this.
Starting point is 01:08:36 It's not a ball gag, but it's a mask that's, you know, behind her like a ball gag. That's awful. And it's, you know, Rocky and Alex are appropriately fucked up and weirded out by this. Terrified. And Alex is like, we need to get the fuck out of here. Alex constantly with the right ideas. Yeah. Judge Judy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:52 He is very consistently saying the right like this is what needs to happen if we want to survive. And Rocky is like, well, no. What if we don't do that? Why would they not be trying to get the fuck out of there? I mean, in this case, it's noble. It's a noble reason she wants to get the girl free. She's like, we can't leave her here. Okay.
Starting point is 01:09:14 You could leave her and call the fucking cops. That's what Alex says. Like, we need to go now and we can call the cops, which I think is the correct move. It's the same reason that Bruce Willis goes back to the basement in Pulp Fiction instead of just leaving. Right. Right. He knows that there's something fucked up going on with someone else and he can't just leave them there. Yep.
Starting point is 01:09:33 Right. So the girl is she can still sort of talk through that thing. She's saying like, please help me. Please help me. Jesus. Yeah. OK, that'd be hard to walk away from. And she's holding something up and saying, look at this, look at this.
Starting point is 01:09:47 And it's a newspaper clipping that says the girl who killed the daughter in the car wreck was found innocent of manslaughter. And so, yes, Emily, this is who that is. It's the girl who killed the daughter. That's right. And she was found innocent. She was let go. And now she is in this guy's basement as a captive. I don't think that she's necessarily innocent.
Starting point is 01:10:09 I'm pretty sure she did kill the daughter, right? Like on accident. Right. OK. Yeah. But I think she's like from a rich family and they just they just made it kind of go away with just paying it, paying him off. Exactly. And that was that was clearly not enough for this guy.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Correct. So now like as far as ethically and morally like we definitely know as an audience like who we should be rooting for. So that kind of gets neatly cleared up. Yeah. We lose our sympathies for the blind man here. Yeah. 100%. Gone. Completely gone. And but you also still
Starting point is 01:10:40 though like it doesn't make it right but you do kind of understand that this guy's daughter was killed by this person who got away with it. You don't kidnap and hold them captive, of course. No, that's not the that's not not the correct response. But you can see why he would be mad at her. Sure. And clearly, like, maybe he's gone a little crazy with grief or something like that.
Starting point is 01:10:59 Yeah, exactly. So this is when Alex is like, we need to need to get out here and call the cops. But the girl starts pointing over And saying you know look in the safe Look in the safe there's another safe in the basement It's the same combination At that moment we hear very loud Stomping upstairs right above them
Starting point is 01:11:17 And we see The blind man peer down the stairs With a gun and then climb down the ladder So now he is in the basement with them. And you know that we're going to have a real like pretty good cat and mouse game down there pretty soon. Alex still gets the safe open, finds a very big set of keys with a lot of keys, which you know is going to be stressful at one point with all those locks.
Starting point is 01:11:41 Oh, God. And he immediately starts trying to find the right key to unlock her uh he does get her out they uh pull her off the bed and she can barely walk because you get the idea that her legs have kind of atrophied from laying there for so long oh so she wasn't even like oh she was lying down oh i don't like that yeah and she could move around but i mean from the way she was walking it looks like there's clearly not a lot of like exercise going on. Right. So the girl is knows the basement. So she's leading them toward the cellar door.
Starting point is 01:12:11 Alex jumps up to undo the bolt, but learns there's a padlock there. So we get another shot of him trying to find keys for this padlock. He finally finds it, unlocks the padlock, and the dude is right there, of course, again, right as they open the cellar door. He's outside now, looking down in the cellar door with a gun pointing it at them. Oh, no. And he shoots Alex's ear off. Why? Because, you know, he's still going by sound, of course, so he's not a crack shot with that thing.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Alex falls back into the basement, and the dude is just sort of randomly shooting into the basement. Rocky and the girl, we learn her name is Cindy. Rocky and Cindy have retreated and Rocky is sort of crouched down and hiding and looking at Cindy who's standing there. And then we realize that Cindy has been shot through the neck and she falls over dead. Oh, oh, no. Oh, man. there and then we realize that Cindy has been shot through the neck and she falls over dead oh oh no oh man so she was not around for too long in this film no
Starting point is 01:13:11 no so blind man starts to come down the cellar doorsteps Alex rolls out of the way and he and Rocky both kind of bolt from the room he starts randomly firing again. It sounds and they freeze finally behind some shelving.
Starting point is 01:13:28 And then he steps in Cindy's blood and reaches down and realizes that he has killed her and is really upset. Yeah, he's like crying and holding her body. Whoa. He creeps back up, closes the cellar door uh destroys the padlock like locks the padlock and destroys it with a screwdriver so they can't use the key anymore alex whispers that they need to go back upstairs because now he has all the keys to the front door uh and they decide to make a run for it which i think is pretty smart because at this point yeah at least move really fast to try and get out of there. The guy,
Starting point is 01:14:05 it makes noise. So the guy starts shooting in their direction again. And then this is when the blind man turns the power off and you get all that great silence of the Lammy in the dark, really creepy footage. Like this guy's eyes and with that black and white night vision effect looks really, really scary.
Starting point is 01:14:23 Yeah, it really does. And Alex and Rocky split up at this point or kind of just scrambling to survive. Rocky decides to call out for Alex, which is very dumb. She gets shot at. And then we see these great signs of the Lamsey shots where they're both just very. I mean, did you two even see Silence of the Lambs? No, I have actually seen it.
Starting point is 01:14:46 OK, so you know what I'm talking about? Yes, yes, I do. I don't know. Emily has not heard about it. A night vision shot of just like when your eyes. It's just like a lot of this. Your eyes are just the camera. And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:01 It makes you look so helpless. Yeah, yeah. It's very effective. And, you know, the level the field is level now because it shows them doing this and with a nice sort of juxtaposition, show shots of Ninja Blind Man just like really moving fast through this area and feeling the familiar touch points that he has mapped out. Yeah. And then everyone in the basement sort of stops. It's dead silent again Rocky starts moving very slowly through the room instead of running
Starting point is 01:15:30 around and she's walking between the shelving with her arms out like this right towards the fucking guy and you're just waiting on her to like touch his body unknowingly and it's like very unnerving
Starting point is 01:15:46 and then i think right then alex decides to call out hey rocky so very fortuitous the guy then again shoots in that direction and then is going toward uh alex so rocky is safe for a moment um and alex is staying there kind of panting when all of a sudden and with a really nice jump scare, the guy's arms shoot out between from the other side of the shelving, like through the shelf and grabs him, puts the gun to the right up to Alex's temple and pulls the trigger. And that's when the gun is out.
Starting point is 01:16:19 Very tropey, but always effective. Oh, wow. But he still is choking him out. So he's still like, now he puts both his hands on him through the shelving still. Alex kind of picks his feet up and pushes off on the opposite shelf backwards and knocks the whole shelving unit back on the blind man. Smart.
Starting point is 01:16:39 Yeah. And this stuff like is pretty believable. None of it was just like, oh, come on. Seriously. Yeah. Right. Like it was all played out like, you know, with, is pretty believable. None of it was just like, oh, come on, seriously. Yeah, right. Like, it was all played out, like, you know, with some decent realism, I think. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:49 So, the guy has shelving on top of him. So, they have a moment. Alex calls out for Rocky. They manage to find each other, make their way toward the ladder because they see a little light coming from up there. And they finally get out of the goddamn basement. Oh, thank God. Thank God. It's a temporary relief for like they're not safe but at least they're out of that basement alex uh shoves a crowbar and this is where the movie gets a little bit funny he shoves the crowbar
Starting point is 01:17:16 under the door to keep it shut and the camera is on both of them and like a nice two shot and they both freeze looking down the hallway and And Alex says, don't run. And then we reveal that that fucking Rottweiler. He's back. He's back. He's back. He's feeling good. He had a nice rest.
Starting point is 01:17:32 He's in the hallway. He's ready to go. Oh, God. Growling at them. Alex hands Rocky the keys and says to go like start trying to unlock the door. And he's doing his best. You're a good boy and it's kind of working like he's got a good dog voice and this rottweiler is kind of he doesn't
Starting point is 01:17:53 fully like go comically nice but he kind of just sits down for a second and it seemed like it might be working and then right then the the blind man starts banging on the basement door right there which triggers the Rottweiler Alex bolts and goes upstairs with the oh he grabs Rocky on the way because the front door is by the steps and they both run upstairs with this
Starting point is 01:18:18 Rottweiler chasing them Rocky has left the keys in the doorway or in the door lock by the way Which is key No pun intended So the dude comes out of the basement Because he has knocked the crowbar out They are upstairs and the angry murderous blind man
Starting point is 01:18:34 And this Rottweiler are now coming up the stairs After them The Rottweiler is up the stairs first Of course And Alex and Rocky bolt into a room And shove a dresser in front of the door, try to get out the window, but realize there are bars on all the windows.
Starting point is 01:18:50 Oh, my God. So now they're trapped in this room. The guy comes up next and goes to his bedroom and gets his gun from underneath his bed. Sure. Alex gets the alarm remote key fob, and he's trying to push it, but he's not close enough to it because we've established that he needs
Starting point is 01:19:06 To be close and he says you know The system will call 911 if I hit the panic Button The dude starts shooting into the room Through the door and bashing the Door trying to push that dresser over Alex leans against the dresser And tells Rocky to climb into
Starting point is 01:19:22 The ventilation duct The HVAC vent, which are like really big. And so we get we do get our diehard moment, I guess. Yeah. With her kind of crawling through this duct. That one I've seen. There we go.
Starting point is 01:19:35 That's not so scary. This isn't scary. So she's crawling through this old wooden ductwork. The dude manages, the blind man manages to shove his way through enough to where the dog gets in, lunges at Alex and Alex falls through the window, which I guess the bars just came off or something. That's what I was like, okay, well, why does this window all of a sudden have no bars? Or maybe he was just pushed back with such force that the bars flew off. I think that's the idea. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:02 It doesn't show that happening but uh we do know there are bars there so i guess they just came out pretty easily um he falls from the second story and lands on that kitchen skylight and in a jurassic park 2 sort of way it's just sort of laying there on the plate glass passed out and you just hear it sort of cracking and creaking there's like a moment as he's like shoved out the window where you're like, oh, he's like outside. And then you see him like, oh, he's about to fall back inside. Yeah. So, meanwhile, we have Rocky crawling through the ductwork.
Starting point is 01:20:37 We get a nice shot from above the skylight looking down past Alex. And Blind Man is directly under him in the kitchen. Back to Rocky in the duct work she reaches sort of a not a dead end but an open end where it looks like she can possibly it goes down a couple of floors like yeah there's a quite a drop there and no lie
Starting point is 01:21:00 that god damn dog gets in the duct work and crouching down is like running, crouching and grappling at her. Okay, that's outrageous. That's outrageous. It's pretty, I mean, he's pretty mad. That dog is committed.
Starting point is 01:21:15 He's very committed at this point. So he's coming after her. She turns around and sees this squatty Rottweiler coming like bumming him out coming and right as he gets there and sort of you know snaps at her she makes that leap goes down a couple of flights and lands
Starting point is 01:21:31 on I guess this sort of interior landing she's pretty beat up at this point so dude leaves the kitchen and right as Alex gains consciousness he realizes he's laying on this cracking skylight and he kind of rolls a little bit over on his back to where you think he might be safe
Starting point is 01:21:55 and he looks up and all of a sudden the guy is above him in the window that he fell out of with a gun pointed at him oh he shoots at him and hits the skylight glass. Oh, boy. So now Alex is back in the locked house again. Wow. This guy's one step ahead all the time. He is. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:22:18 No, no, no. So Alex gets up, gets that key fob, starts pressing it. Nothing happens. He tries to move closer to the alarm panel. And, of course, the dude comes around the corner, starts shooting at him. Alex retreats into that rec room, laundry room, tool room. Oh, no. And hides right behind like money's dead body kind of flops over next to him.
Starting point is 01:22:40 So he's hiding next to money. Didn't grab one of those tools for himself, did he? Well, you know what's coming. You know, he sees the hammers and things. Oh, no, no, no, no. So the guy stops in the halls, kind of silently listening for a moment. And Alex makes a little bit of a grunting noise. And the guy very quickly comes back down.
Starting point is 01:23:00 And as he enters the room with the gun,lex is standing there to the side and hammers his hand really nicely good hit it's a good hit and add the subtitles on it actually said bone crunching so don't like that yeah uh so good for you alex once again he's actually the only one that's doing anything effective um but he's obviously not knocked out. He grabs Alex, proceeds to just beat the shit out of him and try and choke him out again. Alex hits him in the head with a bottle. Ow, with a crunched hand. Yeah, with like, yeah, bones broken for sure.
Starting point is 01:23:37 He hits him in the, Alex hits him in the head with a bottle, which helps for a second. The dude grabs a shovel, starts swinging it around, trying to hit him wherever he is. And with the shovel swinging, the guy accidentally turns on the washing machine which starts just going and starts rattling and alex realizes like all right this is my chance there's like sound happening noise cover yeah so he reaches for the gun on the floor but right as he gets there the guy turns the washing machine off uh tracks where Alex is and jumps on him.
Starting point is 01:24:07 And the gun is just out of his reach. Like he's he's getting the shit kicked out of him. He's reaching for the gun. He finally manages to grab it. But the guy flings him backward and he drops the gun again. And Alex is in very bad shape at this point. is in very bad shape at this point and the guy, the blind man somehow finds the key fob, picks it
Starting point is 01:24:26 up, grabs some handheld like hedge trimmers. Yeah, garden shears. Yeah, garden, like big long garden shears. No. And he lifts them high above his head and jabs them and we get a close up of the shears going into
Starting point is 01:24:41 a chest. Oh, shit. So, meanwhile, Rocky kind of comes to. And we should note here, she still has this backpack full of money. Like, they show kind of a clear shot of that. Right. Okay. Which is a very key thing. She's still got that million on her hip.
Starting point is 01:24:58 And she's in really bad shape at this point. And just kind of crawling forward in agony. That was funny. I did voice to text. And, you you know some of this stuff doesn't really come across yes uh it says she finds event e-v-e-n-t she finds a vent a vent a vent that uh i was like what event um it leads to and she like kicks it open and we see from the outside that it's like on the second floor. But, you know, something that she could probably drop from and be OK. And she's finally going to get out. But of course, the dude is right there like he always is. Grabs her from underneath from the roof ceiling below her and yanks her out that duct.
Starting point is 01:25:38 Grabs her, takes the backpack full of money, tosses it aside. And now he's just punching her in the face until she's almost passed out and then he starts to choke her out you think he's gonna kill her we see that sunlight has now coming through the window so morning is broken um he drops her blood is coming from her nose and it's sort of unclear what her status is at this point. Like, even is she alive or dead? We really don't know. But when she comes to, she, and this is where, let's see Sammy's face. This is where it just gets so fucked up. These guys are gonna not like it at all. What?
Starting point is 01:26:17 I don't know. All right. So now she comes to and she is in the basement harness. Yep. Yep. And she is in the basement harness. Yep. And she is captive and the basement harness is she's wired to her her chest like her
Starting point is 01:26:30 front side. So like if he were to pull her up it would pull her up you know with her facing up. Okay. If he were to do it if he were that would be what it would look like. Kind of like in the Matrix when he gets pulled up by like that claw.
Starting point is 01:26:49 Yes. Yeah. And the other thing we should point out here, which becomes clear on the wide shot, is that her legs are also harnessed. How would you describe that, Sammy? Oh, like a stirrup. Yeah. As if you were like at a gynecological appointment. Oh.
Starting point is 01:27:07 I know. This is gonna be bad. Whatever this is, it's not gonna be good. I don't. Henley has a saddest face right now. This is not gonna be good. It's not. It's not good. Okay, we can do it. We can get through this. Yeah, we can do it.
Starting point is 01:27:23 Emily, we can do it. You've gotten through worse. Yeah, we can do it. Emily, we can do it. You've gotten through worse. Or, yeah, this is pretty bad. Oh, no. So, she wakes up and realizes what's going on and she starts to freak the fuck out, of course. He's sitting there quietly in a chair. She's saying, please let me go. Let me go.
Starting point is 01:27:39 I understand why you did this. She killed your daughter and got away with it. And I understand. Just let me leave. I won't tell anybody. And then this guy finally starts talking like he hasn't really said more than like a line or two in the whole movie. And he's got this creepy sort of craggly deep voice. Yep.
Starting point is 01:27:57 Yeah. Oh, very nice. Is that going to be the invitation later on? That's going to be the outro for sure. We'll bookmark it. We'll bookmark it. I think it has to be. So finally, he says, you understand nothing.
Starting point is 01:28:08 Only a parent could know the bond between a father and his child. So happy Father's Day. Ah, Father's Day movie. Oh God. He says that she should have gone to prison, but rich girls don't go to jail. She says,
Starting point is 01:28:21 this is not going to bring your daughter back. He says, oh man, in one of the creepiest lines of the movie, he goes that's not really true he gets up, he goes over no, no, no to Cindy's dead body
Starting point is 01:28:35 and says she took my child away for me, so I thought the only fair thing was that she give me a new one no! we all kind of knew maybe that was the direction it was going in, but we didn't want it to be true. We didn't want it to be true. It's so true.
Starting point is 01:28:55 It's unfortunately true. I'm so sorry. Oh, my God. I'm sorry to have to do this, but it's so much fun seeing your faces. When I listen to the show I can now picture this So he says She was pregnant with my baby
Starting point is 01:29:12 And you killed them both Holy shit And the look on Rocky's face is like She's a really great face actor Her eyes are so big Just like full circles. Yeah. And on her pupils, it said, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:29:32 And then he turns to her and says, you have to be held accountable. So we cut back to the laundry room for a moment. We see a great reveal where we realize that he has actually stabbed money through the chest with the garden shears. Great, great, great. Alex is alive. Alex is still alive. That's right. Usually like
Starting point is 01:29:56 the still alive thing is so kind of dumb, but this one worked for me. It worked for me too. I fully thought he killed him in that earlier scene. Yeah, I'm surprised. And I think it worked because he didn't pull the shears out of himself fully thought he he killed him in that earlier scene yeah i'm yeah this i'm surprised and and i think it worked because he didn't pull the shears out of himself and you know say well good thing he missed the major organs like right he actually stabbed another body which was fully believable for a blind man and it makes it yeah that choice for him to hide in that room with him
Starting point is 01:30:20 so smart yeah yeah accidentally Yeah. Accidentally smart. So Alex has a slight advantage now because he's supposed to be dead. So he is upstairs by himself on the main floor. He grabs that heavy
Starting point is 01:30:36 hammer that crunched his arm and he starts slowly down the hall and guess who's there. The dog. The dog. The dog. Damn it. God damn it. He has come out of the ductwork.
Starting point is 01:30:47 I somehow keep forgetting that there's a dog. Me too, me too. Oh, the movie will never let you forget there's a dog. You actually want the dog to be dead in this situation. Yeah, this is a rare case. Usually you don't want the dog to be dead, but now you do. So that Rottweiler is in the hall coming after him again.
Starting point is 01:31:02 He manages to get into another room and locks the door behind him. Weiler is in the hall coming after him again. He manages to get into another room and locks the door behind him. We're back in the basement and we see that Cindy's body is now in some sort of container that is filling up with like an oozy kind of black liquid that I guess we presume
Starting point is 01:31:17 is... The like dissolving thing that they use in bed. It's like breaking, it reminded me of Breaking Bad. Yeah, acid. He's disposing of her body somehow. Yeah. It's like breaking, it reminded me of Breaking Bad. Yeah, acid. He's disposing of her body somehow, yeah. That's right. So Alex is now back at the front door trying all the keys and all the locks.
Starting point is 01:31:33 The blind man is in the basement and he lights up a camp stove like a little backpacking stove burner and he puts a skillet on it and he here we are, Sammy. He reaches into the freezer and takes puts a skillet on it and he here we are Sammy he reaches into the freezer and takes out a container and puts it
Starting point is 01:31:50 in the skillet Rocky's saying please God no please God no the guy says there is no God what kind of God would allow this to happen he actually sounds like the vampire in 30 days of night no God he literally says no God no God just made me think in 30 days of night. No, God. He literally says, no, God. And he's like, God, no, God.
Starting point is 01:32:06 Just made me think of 30 days of night. Danny Houston being a vampire. Like, no, God, no, God. So good. Is it weird, though, that I'm like, I'm a little bit relieved about the way this is going to happen. That is a bit of a relief. I'm a little. I'm like, OK, so it could be worse.
Starting point is 01:32:24 Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's something that's a little bit like makes more palatable. I'm glad you guys feel that way. I did not feel that way in watching it. Really? I'm not happy. Do you know what's coming? I have a guess.
Starting point is 01:32:38 Do you want to guess or should we just proceed? Is he warming up frozen semen? Yes. You know it. Yeah, he's not making coffee. He pulls her body up off of the mattress. So she's hanging there with her legs, you know, apart. And he says that he is not a rapist.
Starting point is 01:33:03 Although he totally is. Iist, although he totally is. I don't think he fully understands. This absolutely counts as rape. This is a thousand percent rape. I don't think he gets what that word means. Yeah. Yeah. So I think he's trying to fool himself into thinking he's not.
Starting point is 01:33:16 It's a pretty specific moral code. Yeah. Yeah. Very specific. Boy, so specific. Let's see what Judge Judy have to say about whether or not this is rape? I mean,
Starting point is 01:33:26 back after this. Um, so it, you know, you know, what's going to happen. He's going to inseminate her manually.
Starting point is 01:33:35 Um, he tells Rocky, I never forced myself on her. I promised her I would set her free as soon as she gave me a child.
Starting point is 01:33:44 Uh, again, happy Father's Day. Oh, my God. He goes over and gets some scissors and like cuts the crotch out of her pants. Oh, my God. I know. We're seeing all the steps. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:34:00 I'd really hate to have to describe this He grabs the old turkey baster And Sucks up To my eyes a very large amount Of semen And there's a freaking pube in it Thank you for saying that I didn't want to have to say that
Starting point is 01:34:17 It's so gross I was like gagging And she is like screaming and screaming And while he has the scissors He snips them by her ear To be like you gotta stop wiggling around gagging and she is like screaming and screaming but oh and while he like has the scissors he like snips them by her ear to be like you gotta stop wiggling around because i have like scissors out so then she has to like freeze still because he's like oh my god it's so horrible and there's a there's a point where she says you can't do this to him and he says there's nothing a man cannot do once he accepts there is no god oh my god i did not see this coming i'm just gonna say that horrifying took a turn this movie
Starting point is 01:34:55 took a turn yep it took a real hard left turn oh man and he tells he tells her to. He says, I can't remember the exact wording. He says, like, you're young. You'll breed well. Oh, God. It's horrifying. Horrifying. I will have to say, like, the shot of the pube, as gratuitous as it is, is really effective. Oh, my God. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:21 Taking a tin scene and taking it to a letter. Yeah. I mean, once again to taking it to a level. I mean, once again, once again, it, this is all, it always,
Starting point is 01:35:30 always, always, always, always, always men. It's scary. They're so scary. They're so bad.
Starting point is 01:35:37 Scariest thing. Well, even that line, there's nothing, there's nothing a man can't do when he decides there's no god it's like it is a horrifying well hey pretty soon we will find out there's nothing a woman can't do because something is coming your way here i mean look okay okay good what's coming so she is appropriately freaking the fuck out as he approaches he's carrying this turkey baster sort of down at his side and like his semen is just dripping out of it along the way it's really gross so gross he approaches her and says in nine months
Starting point is 01:36:13 i will give you your life back and he takes the turkey baster and right as he goes to move toward her she's kind of resigned herself to this, I think. We hear a crunch sound and blood splatters across her face and Alex has hammered his head. Okay, great, great, great. Thank God. Thank you, Alex. Turkey baster falls to the ground. Appreciate you, Alex.
Starting point is 01:36:38 Very clear shot of this turkey baster on the floor. Did not make contact. It did not make contact, folks. Yeah, no contact whatsoever. It's still full of his semen which is very key uh because we see this sort of slow motion sequence where alex has you know clearly hit him on the hammer but the guy is not completely out he's just like sort of groggy and can't do anything um rocky proceeds he frees rocky with the keys uh alex does she proceeds to start just kicking the shit out of this guy yeah and then no shit she grabs this fucking turkey baster
Starting point is 01:37:14 and jams it in his mouth and squeezes it and this guy is literally choking on his own semen. Great, great, great, great, great. God, there's a lot of semen talk in this movie. Way more than you would think there would be. Probably more than you were expecting. Much more than I was expecting. Way more than I was expecting. So he's literally choking and gagging on it and spitting it out.
Starting point is 01:37:39 And it's really gross, but it's also kind of like good for you. Yeah, that is how he should die. Yeah. And well, it doesn't kill him. Okay. Well, he probably died a little bit inside. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:52 It's pretty great because she clearly has turned the tables and like there's nothing a woman can't do once she realizes there's no God. Yeah, truly. It's like, oh, I mean, Sammy, it's your favorite thing in a movie when a woman, anyone, but particularly a woman just goes. I like when you reach a breaking point. Just loses all and just fucks somebody up. Which like, yeah, that would do it. I would I would do anything to that man.
Starting point is 01:38:18 And she says, how does that taste? Oh, yeah. So at this point, Alex is even like, what the fuck? Like, can we just go? Yeah, what the hell's going on? Like, I kind of get it, but can we just get out of here? Alex grabs the bag full of money. It's kind of a little smoother sailing from here on out, by the way.
Starting point is 01:38:38 Like, some things happen, but don't worry. That's the worst of it. Okay, thank you. See, this is what a recap is so helpful for. Because you get, like, when you're watching it, no's gonna tell you that no no no yeah you're thinking how much worse could it get uh rocky tells the guy he's gonna rot in prison um alex is like can we just call the cops now please uh but here's the thing they still want to steal that money and the guy says you got what you came just came for.
Starting point is 01:39:05 Just take it. Get out of my house. And Alex points out, he's like, we have to make like a Sophie's choice here. He's trying to buy his freedom because if we leave with the money, we can't call the cops because we'll be in trouble and on the hook for, you know, grand larceny. But if we leave the money, we can call the cops. And he's trying to get us to leave with the money. And so they have to make, he said
Starting point is 01:39:27 it's basically, it's either the money or that. He points out to Rocky. So he lets her make the choice. He says, Rocky, this is your decision to make. And the next thing you see is them trying all the keys. So they've made their choice. They finally find the keys that work. They've got the
Starting point is 01:39:43 backpack. Just as Alex starts to open the door gunshot rings out and Alex hits the floor no oh is he dead? this time for real he's dead dead why is this guy gonna let you go?
Starting point is 01:40:01 he's not gonna let you go no and why not well I will say I missed one part they did handcuff him Why is this guy going to let you go? He's not going to let you go. No. And why not? Well, I will say I missed one part. They did handcuff him because you would think, why would they just leave him? They handcuffed him to the harness. But he knows how the harness works. It's his harness. It just shows him sort of holding the system or the handcuffs.
Starting point is 01:40:17 It doesn't really explain how he got out. But you just buy it. No, you hit him hard on the head. Yeah. Also. A bunch of times. Knock him out. Knock him the fuck out.
Starting point is 01:40:26 Ugh. So, Rocky opens the door in full daylight and just bolts and she's running down the street. She's running down the middle of the street. For some reason, she stops like 200 feet away, turns around. The guy is on the front porch and she just stands there and yells at him. You're worthless out here. Instead of just going away. Rocky, him. You're worthless out here. Uh, instead of just,
Starting point is 01:40:47 just going away, that's all you gotta do. And guess who comes running out that door? Our old friend, the Rottweiler. No! Yeah. Again,
Starting point is 01:41:00 I forgot there's a fucking dog. You always forget. And he always shows up. He's not worthless out there. No, he's not. So all of a sudden he is chasing her through these vacant lots. She jumps over a fence. She, of course, stops to look back and see if the dog can jump over the fence instead of running and just not stopping running.
Starting point is 01:41:19 She's not making good decisions. No, she's not. She hasn't the whole way. So that tracks. Yeah. It's like all the horror movie stuff is happening. You know, no's not. She hasn't the whole way. So that tracks. Yeah. It's like all the horror movie stuff is happening. You know, no good choices. So she finally gets to money's old Camaro, gets in the Rottweiler, catches up and grabs her.
Starting point is 01:41:35 But she kicks it off, gets in the car, shuts the door. She's in the car safely and with a very nice shot. She looks down and sees that backpack of money on the ground outside the car. She realizes she has no car keys and freaks out. She's trapped in the car. And I don't know how she comes up with this plan this quickly, but I guess because the script said she did. Yeah. But she goes back, lowers the back seat and crawls into the trunk.
Starting point is 01:42:06 So now she's in the trunk, which is the childhood stuff. She's got trunk tricks. Yeah, trunk tricks. She gets like a ratchet strap and attaches it to the trunk latch. And you're not really sure what the hell she's doing at this point. She backs back up toward the front seat and then pops the trunk. So it opens up and she's holding like this long leash that's attached to the trunk that is up.
Starting point is 01:42:30 And the dog, sure enough, comes around, jumps into the trunk. She yanks the trunk shut and then kicks the back seat and latches that. So now the dog is stuck in the trunk. OK. OK. She made for a moment. She's being really intelligent about she did because she got the trunk tricks and now she's done to this dog what was done to her and trauma cycles repeat right and this dog will pass it on to his puppies that's right so she stumbles out of the car grabs the backpack and stands up and he says, thank God this is over.
Starting point is 01:43:08 And of course, the dude is outside now following the noise of his dog and starts coming at her very quickly. He grabs her. He punches her out. And then you see the shot of him dragging her down the middle of the street by the hair. That we saw in the very beginning. He takes her back into the goddamn house. No, again? No.
Starting point is 01:43:28 After all of this. No. Back into the house, knocks her out. She's barely conscious at this point. She looks over and see Alex on the floor and starts kind of sobbing and saying, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And she looks down. This is a little silly.
Starting point is 01:43:46 And sees a ladybug on her thumb. Okay. Gives her strength. It gives her strength, folks. It does. The motivation she needed. Her little friend. Ladybug.
Starting point is 01:43:56 Her little friend. This ladybug takes flight. The little wings pop open, flies away. Very symbolic. We get a nice rack focus on the alarm key fob on the floor beside her uh she is right next to that alarm panel finally she pushes the button and sounds the alarm and i guess because this guy has super strength hearing he's just like ah and he's holding his ears yeah in pain because it's hurting his ears so loud yeah okay
Starting point is 01:44:25 he starts shooting around the house with a gun she grabs the crowbar and it's kind of cool like she hits him and then runs away and he's shooting around and then she'll make another pass and hit him and it's just kind of running around the room like she's not staying in one place and she's just hitting him with this thing and whacking him he He's still shooting around the room. He shoots a picture of his daughter in the face. Very symbolic again. And then she hits him again. He falls through the basement door
Starting point is 01:44:53 and I remember there in his stare. So he falls all the way down. Oh yeah. Lands on his back and she's standing there above him looking at you know what you think is his dead body and shuts the door. Because his gun goes off and like his own gun like shoots himself. And there's like a. Oh, is that what happened?
Starting point is 01:45:11 Yeah. There's like a little puddle of blood underneath him. So, yeah, she's like, oh, he's dead. Watching him like bleed out. But it shoots him in the side. It's like. All right. In his armpit area.
Starting point is 01:45:21 Yeah, that makes sense. So she grabs a backpack full of money. We hear sirens she bolts across the street just as the cops pull in and the next thing we see is uh rocky and her little sister diddy uh and what i guess is a train station yeah okay like a cafe and a train station and a nearby tv is playing the news report of what happened. And according to the news, we learned that this guy has lost his sight from a grenade in battle and combat. And two burglars broke into his home attempting to rob him, brutally attacked him. And that the visually impaired man was able to defend himself, shooting and killing both of the attackers.
Starting point is 01:46:00 And is in stable condition and will be released from the Hollywood's Hollywood from the hospital. I don't know why I said that. It's the movies released from the hospital soon and did not report anything being stolen. And that's it. We know the guy's alive.
Starting point is 01:46:20 The last thing we see is her and her sister, little Diddy making their way onto the train platform dissolved. Cindy's their way onto the train platform. He dissolved Cindy's body. And the Rumpweiler runs up through the train station. No. Oh my god. I was like, this fucking dog! Well, the dog's still locked in that car, I guess.
Starting point is 01:46:35 The dog didn't die. But that is the end. That is Don't Breathe. Wow. Holy shit! That's like the choice she made, right? That was the whole thing. It was like he can either go to jail for what he's done or you can get a million bucks. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:51 But it's crazy that he didn't say that someone had stolen a million dollars and there was a woman who had stolen a million dollars. Well, I think if they went to a court case, then yeah. She would be able to say what he has done. He had this lady in the basement. Yeah. And I guess the cops didn't
Starting point is 01:47:08 say, on the news report, they didn't say and there was also a weird torture harness in the basement. Yeah, did they find that or did they not search the house that intensely? I think we're just not supposed to think about that. Especially because his body would have been in the basement
Starting point is 01:47:24 too. Like right next to the harness. Probably. Oh yeah. Good point. Yeah. So that's it. I don't know what I'm going to watch the sequel even though it's not good because I just got to know what other hijinks he's up to. The sequel has him in it. He's like the star of the sequel. Yeah. He's in it.
Starting point is 01:47:40 Okay. Okay. All right. So I'm kind of curious. I'll email you guys and report back. Yeah. Let us know. Let us know. Wow I'm kind of curious. I'll email you guys and report back. Yeah. Let us know. Let us know. Wow. That was fucked up.
Starting point is 01:47:52 That is fucked up. Wait. That was crazy. Sammy, you had seen it already? No. You hadn't seen it? Yeah. Well, okay.
Starting point is 01:48:01 What were your reactions while you were watching it? Okay. Well, I had actually read the script, which is not something I do normally. Okay. But it was, and so I had more of a, well, no, I had big reactions both times, but yeah, the script was the first time and I was just horrified. Absolutely horrified. Cause also sometimes reading it can be worse, kind of similar to how sometimes I think when we recap it, it's actually worse because you just fill things in with your brain. It can look however horrifying you want it to. I actually was just thinking about this because we are going to do Evil Dead 2 for Sammy's bonus episode for her birthday. Awesome.
Starting point is 01:48:42 And she asked us to watch it. And I was watching it yesterday and i was like laughing out loud like it was so outrageous but i think hearing about it at all hearing about it would be worse hearing about it would be hearing about evil dead one i i absolutely hate it and then yeah so i was watching this and i was like oh this is a lot funnier yeah yeah very funny oh my god sam ramey produced this so there is some sort of you know Oh, this is what it is? Yeah. Yeah. Very funny. Yeah. Very funny. Oh, my God. But Sam Raimi produced this. So there is some sort of, you know, Raimi-esque.
Starting point is 01:49:10 Yeah. Connections. Shots and connections. And I thought it was a good movie. You know, it's not an Academy Award winner, but it's a nice little cat and mouse thriller. Yeah. It's a good one to recap because the best ones to recap are ones that do have like a big twist like that.
Starting point is 01:49:25 Like that. Yes. Oh, my God. Really? So many moments of this movie. I would never, never have guessed. Yeah. Like.
Starting point is 01:49:34 Sorry, I had to talk about semen so much. No, we talked about it so much. I'm sorry you had to talk about semen so much. It has not been discussed nearly as much on any other episode. This might be the single most semen film we've ever talked about. The most semen-y. Yeah. Gross.
Starting point is 01:49:52 Yeah, it was very effective stuff. Oh my God. Holy shit. Chuck, thank you so much. That was amazing. You were a very good storyteller. Thank you. This was so much fun.
Starting point is 01:50:01 I was riveted. And happy Father's Day to everybody out there. Happy Father's Day. I had to go hang And happy Father's Day to everybody out there. Happy Father's Day. Now I get to go hang out with my seven-year-old daughter. Oh, God. Oh, my God. Yeah, real Father's Day feel. So crazy.
Starting point is 01:50:22 Wowie, wow. All right, well, shall we sign it off with the growly voice we know what's coming oh she's you have to clear your throat to get ready I'm trying to scratch it up I'm trying to scratch it up
Starting point is 01:50:36 I'm not going to be able to from all of us here at Goose Game goodbye goodbye goodbye From all of us here at Too Scary Didn't Watch. Goodbye. Goodbye. Goodbye. Hi, everybody.
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