Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 238: The Backwash of History
Episode Date: February 25, 2022Sorry for late episode this week gang, and also NO EPISODE NEXT WEEK. Sorry Today we play fast and loose on Ukraine, then talk about the exciting new bitcoin mining operation planned for our county ...Support us on Patreon: www.patreon.com/trillbillyworkersparty
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man William Devon had a good deal going on he made like the same song like five
different times like five different ways like it was like early
sort of almost sort of like Motown inspired he might have even been on Motown
like you know the the version that starts with bongos and then he did like a kind of like mid-70s
almost sort of soft rock version and then he did like a late 70s disco version
and then obviously it was like it was sampled in like i think ludicrous sampled it
which which song be thankful for what you got oh you know what i'm talking about yeah which
wait which lucre song samples that um i think it's called diamond in the back
diamond in the back yeah i think that's kicking the scene with the guy
yeah that was uh dj paul from three sixia produced that one. Oh, really?
Yeah.
Damn, dog.
If I'm not mistaken.
Wow.
It's real.
It's real authentic music before it got bad.
Before the music died.
The all-time best version of that is do you remember a little
uh known producer called bangladesh no bangladesh was his job i don't know
he produced little wayne's amelia millie amelia millie that one uh-huh but he basically sold
the same beat to three different artists,
including Beyonce, who had,
I'm a diva, I'm a diva.
Lil Wayne had a milli, a milli, a milli, a milli.
It's the same beat.
He just tweaked it just slightly.
And two major hits off of just one beat he probably made in like 10 minutes.
It's all good.
I mean, you can do that.
Like, New Yorker had this profile of Wendell Berry,
and they were talking about how much he repeats himself.
And it's like, dude, that motherfucker made a career
of just repeating himself for 50 years.
Yeah, there's some people that have their own standbys.
I certainly do.
Anytime I go back and listen to things, I'm like,
man, I just say that a lot, don't I?
But like Cornel West says like some combination of the same eight things,
Wendell Berry, and I'm not knocking it.
I'm just saying it's kind of like the Mexican restaurant approach
where you got four ingredients and you reinterpret them 60 different ways.
Yep.
And if it's not broke, don't fix it.
Right.
Yeah.
Nobody's mad at a Mexican restaurant.
Right.
That said, we'll be playing the hits today.
You're right.
Real authentic person.
Real authentic person. Real authentic person.
Mr. Real authentic person actually has an announcement he needs to make.
Yes.
Thank you for having me on your podcast.
I just want to apologize for calling the Ukrainian invasion wrong.
I did not understand how many real authentic people there were in russia
i like the idea of him going to ukraine but i what what do you listen to my man what tell me
what do you listen to and he doesn't like he he for some reason he's heard our criticism and so he's like yeah like peasants they don't
play the banjo and they don't you know listen they don't drink moonshine they listen to rap
music so he's in ukraine in the donbass region and he's asking them what they listen to Doc Boggs, and he's like...
How do you say...
AP Stamper...
Yeah, Roscoe Holcomb Yeah Roscoe Holcomb
Wow my man
You listen to good
You listen to good music
You're a real authentic person
We're gonna fight a war on your behalf
God damn dude
It has been
Just a never ending stream
Of the most
I don't even know It's i mean it's just kind of stupid to
call it the the take industry or whatever you want to call it now but the last 48 hours have
produced some real inanities some real gems some real banalities inanities um truly sean hannity's well the thing that um so for future reference
if me in like 2043 is going through the back catalog and comes across this episode and is
trying to piece together what the fuck i'm talking about the russia and the russia invaded the the Ukraine look they're all territories
now to me they all get in they all get definite articles or all word the
Kentucky yeah the France it's all it's all a region baby there that was
recently on an episode you asked why is it called the Ukraine and there was an
article in my favorite section of the Atlantic,
the ideas section that said,
don't call it the Ukraine or something like that.
Like why it's problematic to call it the Ukraine.
It implies like Russian ownership of a specific,
like parcel of land.
Right.
I guess their argument was that it implies that it is a region and not a
sovereign nation oh okay right
uh the craziest hell was that the craziest thing i saw dude was like i guess like right
i didn't understand this i don't know if this is real or not but i saw this thing where like russia
i like saw these posts coming through the TL last night,
like, Russia took Chernobyl.
Russia took Chernobyl.
I was like, what the fuck?
Who would take Chernobyl?
What is this?
That's a net negative.
I don't know if you know this,
but plutonium and shit like that
has a nuclear half-life of like 6 000 years like
it's shit ain't safe to be around still right it's like capture the flag but like capture the
radioactive flag just like god and then said they'd like it's like supposedly learned people
were like this is strategic because they're going to use it to supply nuclear. It's like Chernobyl's not been running for like 30 years, 20 years, something like that, right?
No, I thought it was completely abandoned.
I thought it was like a whipside or something.
Yeah.
Right, like nothing honorable is here, turn away.
Did you watch that miniseries?
No, but I fuck with Jaredared harris i fucking love jared
harris but i didn't i never watched that there's like where they brought it it's like if you know
what we were joking the other day about like everybody's trying to like shoehorn the russia
ukraine situation into their own individual beat yeah actually, we have a direct line if you watch Chernobyl
or have watched Chernobyl because the coal miners go in there naked.
You just see...
Everybody's talking about this is the golden age of dick on TV.
It's like, really, it kind of kicked off with Chernobyl.
A bunch of coal miners just slinging hog,
going in there nude to try to do cleanup
because I guess the rationale being they had experience
you know in dirty
why did they need to take their clothes off
they're still gonna get radioactive anyway
it's like I don't I forgot
what the reason was in the show
we're going to need you to take off
your pants
what
why
swing your big hog and there's like What? Why?
Swing your big hug.
There's like a guy that's a holdout, and he's just like... It's like the guy at the gym that lets everybody shower before he goes in.
Y'all go ahead.
I think I'm going to get some shots up.
That'd be me.
Are you not patriot, young comrade?
No, no, no, it's not that.
It's nothing.
I love Soviet Union.
I just not really feeling it.
It's just, you know, yeah.
That show was fucking crazy, man.
It's insane.
All the radiation sickness and shit that oh
well then i then i saw like tommy tuberville tommy tuberville was like
the first there's truly everybody did weigh in then every single person a former college
football coach had undefeated season at aurn weighed in. Everybody had to weigh in.
Well, technically, Tommy is now a senator of the United States. Right, right, right.
I know, yes.
Tommy Tuberville is a senator,
and Louis C.K. is playing bits in Kiev on the eve of an invasion.
That's –
Well, I saw that.
And Russia is trying to take back chernobyl
like what the fuck is going on here dude
well it's funny because it's you know we were talking yesterday it's like man what what is
there to say about this like we obviously don't know squad douche about this or anything like that.
But you did pluck one good lesson
that I think is eternally true
in most situations,
is that whatever you think,
pattern or trend of history
or whatever,
sometimes things happen
that you can just wad it up
and throw it out there.
And this is certainly the case
with not only putin's military strategy which is you know just seemingly caught even all the
learned people on this topic off guard but also just the weird things like
canceled comedian louis ck playing kiev tonight like why just such a just like such a fascinating detail in the
hieronymus bosch tapestry of this whole thing just like you're looking you know you're looking
at the triptych you're like in the corner is that louis ck doing i guess his flight did get canceled but you know still i'd imagine
probably pretty hard to get in there right about now yeah i liked tommy tuberville's quote because
tommy tuberville's quote was russia i mean this is the thing that the conservatives have all gone
with i know this from i just got back from the gym yeah what is the thing that the conservatives have all gone with. I know this from, I just got back from the gym.
What is the conservative line on this?
The conservative line is that China kind of hyped Russia up.
Come on, man.
Don't be a pussy.
Don't be a bitch.
So you get in there playing a little grab ass and make Russia do this.
Don't be a little bitch.
You going to let him talk to you that way there there's that um so they're saying that and they're also saying that like putin's trying to
make soviet the russia communist again the soviet union but tommy tuberville actually had a very
fascinating take on it tommy's take he split for a split from the official line
he split from the official line the party line tommy tuberville's take was that um
they the reason trump the reason putin is doing this is that russia is a communist country
and he said he couldn't feed his people he can't feed his people i mean like he kind of made it
it's like the way it was like tommy tuberville thinks it's 1990 still yes like the way it was worded though it kind of made
seem putin it said it kind of made it seem like putin had resorted to communism in the way that
a man will resort to theft if he can't feed his family if he can't feed his family he's he's
instituted all he did was he got on the the big intercom in Russia and said, communism's back, baby.
And then all of a sudden that created a whole new set of norms and economic systems, et cetera.
Yes.
Yeah.
The funny thing about that, though, the funny thing about, like, the people who constantly call russia the soviet union like they
still think it's communist and it's not just conservatives because like plenty of liberals
did this over the past couple years um oh yeah moscow mitch and they had like the hammer and
sickle right signage all over the shit for him exactly like they do it on both sides the thing
that just kills me is like, we destroyed the Soviet Union.
I mean, like, why did they even want to win?
Like, they clearly still want that enemy.
You know what I mean?
It's almost like they won
and they're sour about it or something.
They're sour apples that they fucking won.
Like, what was the point of even taking them down
if you think they're still there?
Well, I think what they think is that most Americans are dumb.
I don't believe this, but I think they think that most Americans are dumb.
And that they could just continue to just, like, kind of lean on those, like, sort of Red Scare tropes.
Uh-huh.
And it is pretty successful if you just see how, likexism and like uh all the all the buzzwords
du jour you know have such staying power in places like you know where tubberville from
marjorie taylor green and whatever uh-huh but it is like um it is funny because i saw a lot of that
take too where it was like uh putin like in the in my boy's group chat here and i don't know
what to make of this i'd be curious to see what you think about it if you saw this but putin's
got the itch man that's what we're talking about he said you can take the boy out of the kgb but
you can't take the kgb out of the boy he's and you know what this idea that putin is like nostalgic
for a lost empire
and he's trying to bring like the soviet union back or something have you seen that floating
around i have seen it yeah yeah what's your thought on it i'm i don't i don't know it's it's
it kind of falls in the same category as some of these other just sort of like pop sociology, pop history,
pop politics,
like takes so such as like Putin's ego,
you know,
got us into,
you know what I mean?
Like stuff like that.
Like Putin's,
Putin's,
uh,
white male privileges is what's got us to the,
brought us to the brink.
Right.
I think that like Russia,
like pretty much every other modernized state
has a pretty complex bureaucratic and technocratic system and i don't believe that like putin is
so all-powerful that he is able to just say this is is what we're going to do and everybody's going to do it. Like,
I assume this was probably arrived at with much deliberation within people in the Russian state,
which makes it even more ridiculous that the United States haven't tried. I don't know. It
seems to me like the U.S. is trying to portray him as someone who's unhinged,
someone who is, yes, trying to launch World War III and all these other things,
when I think the reality is, I mean, he seems like a bad person,
just like everybody who pretty much leads a...
That's a head of state.
That's a head of state, right.
But, like, I guess what I'm saying is, like, if that's what they're starting from, if that's the point they're starting from, I really have to question how much they give a shit about what happens in Ukraine.
Because if they gave a shit, they would try to be finding some sort of diplomatic solution to this that ensures that there is a ceasefire or that this calms down.
But they don't give a fuck. And the thing is i i really think the united states
wants this i know that like i hate this down like one of those the cia is behind everything you know
everything in the world is reducible to the u.s but this is a direct case where that is true because
the united states and the cia have been meddling in uk for years. I mean, the 2014 Euromaidan protests, whatever, that was a CIA original.
Yeah, I forgot about it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was right around the time when, well, not long after that, I don't think,
when they did the shit in Hong Kong, right?
And it's like all this stuff that was made to kind of look like
Patria Evita in Cuba, for example, is kind of along the same lines and that kind of thing.
Yeah.
So it's not, yeah, it's not outside the realm of possibility
that there's that kind of, that level of meddling.
The thing is that's so fucking nuts is that,
so that basic situation set of circumstances
where the CIA was doing that
created this situation where like neo
nazis from the west were going over there and fighting in these like paramilitary groups
against russia and against those like separatist states in the donbass or whatever and so you had
this situation where they they were coming over there and fighting on behalf
of this supposed like liberal democracy ukraine but do under doing it under the guise that putin
was attacking white supremacy but like in the way all this shakes out that That's what I was going to ask you. It's like, is Putin a liberal?
I don't know.
You can see how, I mean, in the Americans, I guess in the Americans,
is he a Democrat?
I guess in the American sense.
That's a good question.
You can see America's Democrats doing some shit like that.
Just like doing the most atrocious shit and saying like oh this is in the name of like
women's rights or like equality or whatever you know and we do well that's what they are saying
russia's saying this is like denazification or whatever i mean it's like no i don't i don't it's
weird it's like they've attached all these weird virtue signals onto every aspect of it but like
the morals of it
i think the thing is is that like in our social media driven world there has to be a right and
a wrong here you know what i'm saying because if there if that isn't the case if it's all wrong
then like it's harder to get faves that way yeah right right so it's like you kind of you kind of got to like make these weird like people whose politics that I generally I think they say generally insightful things or whatever, because they all felt compelled to weigh in on this.
It produced some really wacky stuff.
Some of it was just really like mindless and like aseptic.
You know what i'm saying but some of it was also at the same time like incredibly woke
stuff like the thing i sent you someone being like if you call it world war you're not centering
you're centering the lives of white people or something yeah it's like oh they don't call it
they don't they only call it a world war when it's white people fighting i'm like
japanese people are wild. What?
No.
There is some truth to that in the sense that there were all these takes flying around.
The fucking front page of Time magazine is like, history is back or something like that. It's like, there's been a war in Ethiopia going on for a while now and a lot of people are dead.
You know what I mean?
It is true in the sense that what gets gets considered like these epoch shifting like shifting things but i mean it generally
applies to like yeah like the the nato states and you know the world powers and stuff like that i
i don't necessarily think that's the domain of like like you could boil that down to a race
that thing though i think that's a maybe a bridge
too far but i get their point though that like we don't tend to to uh put as much gravity when it's
like you know people in africa or latin america wherever like fighting these wars like that's
like we treat them as disposable people completely yeah yeah yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's weird.
The thing is, is, like, I think that the United States probably wants this to happen.
And, again, I don't really know much about any of this.
I was going to kind of try to dodge it, honestly.
I was going to try to see if we could do an entire episode.
Like, just blissfully ignore it.
just like just blissfully ignore it but the the image of taking chernobyl was too it was too strong it was too tempting
oh man but i think that like this is probably bad for europe right because i guess there's all these
you know resource concerns with germany and the natural gas they get from pipelines, I guess, that go through there.
I think that this definitely probably fucks with the balance of power in Europe in a way that probably makes them a little more dependent on America.
That's a huge gamble by Putin, right?
Because it's like, I'm just talking about in terms of
the russian interest i'm not talking about from a human rights perspective or what's right or
what's wrong or anything but like this seems like a a high risk thing and it seems like putin is
shrewd enough to like i had read some stuff and you never know what's true or not because i i don't
anytime i read any western reporting of particularly concerned in russia or china
i'm just like how you know how do i rightly divide the word of truth here you know uh-huh
but like they were talking about how like you know and i guess this is in line with like what
the conservatives were saying about how like china was like well you know we'll help you
weather any sanctions by doing
you know this thing or that thing you know whatever so i i don't know i don't know
you know i've you don't you don't tune into this program for for you know geopolitical analysis but
i mean i couldn't i could you know in my very limited understanding of things just kind of
we did have that episode on solomani and that was pretty dope that was pretty tight yeah
yeah have you heard like i've i've also read things about like how the saudis are kind of
behind this in some ways too going back to joe biden um is refusing to to have an audience with uh
muhammad bin salman because of the kashogi murder or whatever but like at the same time biden's
trying to like goose them up to like ramp up oil production because the midterms are coming up and
gas prices are going through the roof and like j, and like Muhammad bin Salman is like refusing to like,
you know,
to do that.
He's kind of like stifling it on purpose and colluding with the Russians or
whatever,
because Biden wouldn't take his phone call,
but like Putin would.
Incredible.
This is like,
you know, it feels like to me like it i mean you and this could be the
dumbest thing i've ever said and if it is i mean please call me on it um but it feels like you
could do a lot and of course that's not our aim our aim is destabilization and kissing through
politics but like it seems like if you really
just wanted to repair relationships in the middle east like everybody hates the fucking saudis
mostly in the gulf states especially you know your boys together like hey let's put differences
aside and let's stomp these motherfuckers out yeah it's like, did we genocide two million of you?
Not much to be said about that.
We'll just take the royal family.
Yeah, no, it's... I mean, I read this thing today that was interesting.
I remember the guy's name.
But, I mean, the point he was making was that...
but i mean the point he was making was that um like u.s policymakers don't ever see russia as operating on the same principles of sort of
realpolitik that we do you know what i'm saying like they they see russia as motivated by these
like i don't know like primordial just like these other whole set of values altogether, you know.
Yeah, and that is the interesting thing,
like going back and looking at like the Cuban Missile Crisis
and like the whole drama of that thing was,
I feel like it was Khrushchev and Kennedy
just sort of realizing that it wasn't in either of their interests
to nuke their respective societies off of the face of the planet and you know cuba got fucked
in that pretty much um even by the soviet union they kind of soviets turned their back on yeah
yeah they kind of threw him under the bus um and uh but like that's the thing like i think there was a kind of an ability on both sides of
that thing to see the other as an actual human being you know what i'm saying this is like
someone who um is also constrained by the systems that they work in but who at the end of the day doesn't want to see
their society completely it's it is true it's like if there's no atheists in a foxhole you really
like there are no politics in like a nuclear holocaust situation you kind of abandon that
for like okay we have to exist we need life you know what i mean like it is telling even that
fidel castro when kennedy
was assassinated said it was like a great loss for like world peace right i don't know if he
was just being diplomatic but castro doesn't seem like a guy that cared too much about
being diplomatic so i don't know i think in some ways like there was a um and i'm not again i'm
not saying the kennedys were good or anything but
i think that like when hubris and a number of other things take you to the brink of
mutual annihilation it starts to humanize everybody for you no matter how awful you were
to that point right yeah no it's it's it's weird um unless you're the joker baby and then some some men just want to see the world burn
um i did read you mentioned like western reporting on this i did read a very fascinating
thing in the new york times magazine which i would normally be inclined to
treat with a great deal of skepticism, but the way this article was framed,
I thought you could read between the lines and be able to discern some things that were going on.
So this reporter had gone into like Donetsk and Luhansk, like these separatist regions in
eastern Ukraine or whatever, and he was speaking with a lot of people there and a lot of people he interviewed and granted i don't know if this is representative
i don't know if this was his own anti-communist bias i think that probably it was i think he was
trying to portray their cause as to them like absurd and hopeless but i but i think that that
framing is in itself revealing because the people he interviewed, most of them were like, life was much better under the Soviet Union.
Most of these people disagreed with the 1992 vote for independence from the Soviet Union, which was like the decisive vote in the dissolving, in the dissolution of the Soviet Union.
Like Ukraine voting for independence.
dissolving in the dissolution of the soviet union like ukraine voting for independence so do you think that's where like the idea that putin's nostalgic for the empire of old is kind of
comes into play like there's like some sort of residual resentment for ukrainians wanting their
own independence from the soviet union or whatever yeah i don't know it's weird though because like
there's all these things where people try to like psychoanalyze them because i saw another thing
where people were like including the state department 2008 when they said he had asperger's
when they said he was um neurodivergent so it's like i mean i don't know but people some people
were saying that like the memory of world war ii and being invaded through the ukraine runs deep
and all this stuff and it's like i don't i think you guys are overthinking this. Like I'm,
I,
if you're just looking this on,
at this on the merits,
like Russia probably feels rather rightly or wrongly,
you know,
this is a safe space.
We can talk about our feelings here.
We talk about if they're legit or not later,
but I think they feel a little crowded in.
I think they feel encroached upon and surrounded.
Basically.
You've got these missiles in part of ukraine you've got like the cia fomenting these sort of like
you know right-wing paramilitary um uprising sort of like mujahideen style uprisings in ukraine like
to them they probably want a little more buffer uh and it's and and there's also like the re the um the reality of like nato
expansion and all this other stuff now whether that makes putin's decision right or wrong that's
not for me to say that's that's not what that's no we're not making a judgment call on that right i
it's kind of like i never really understood russia's interest in syria but it's kind of
there's a little bit of that too because like damascus and moscow aren't that far apart really right so it's like from a from like a
military like strategy standpoint you can see how there's like some sort of benefits but i'm not and
again i'm not saying that's that's right i think there's correct of them to do but i'm just saying
from their perspective i think they see it that. I think there's like a port there or something in like Tripoli.
Not the Libyan Tripoli, but the Syrian.
Anyways.
I think there's a port there.
I guess if it's on the sea.
Anyways, I don't know.
This article is kind of interesting though because the people
there the people this reporter was talking to were like no like life had meaning and purpose
back then like you know life is shit now life is misery and they see as a gamble in their own way
in their own probably misguided way sort of relying on the russian state as having a bigger state and a
bigger economy than the ukrainian one as a way for them to maybe sort of get back some of that old
glory some of that old mojo um and it's and that's what i meant the other day when i was saying like
it kind of feels like all of us are just sort of walking around picking up like the detritus and
like flotsam of history.
And they're all disconnected, and they make no sense,
but we're just trying to, in some ways,
squeeze some sort of material or even philosophical.
We're getting backwash.
It's like when you drink after your buddy,
it spits a little too much in there,
and you get some of that in there.
You get some dip in there, man.
Yeah, it's the backwash of history the backwash of history that is true it's it's not it's not that history is returned it's that we've all been drinking the backwash for
like 30 years yeah well it is interesting we were getting it in small amounts and just not knowing it.
And now we're all sick.
We've got stomachs full of dip.
Skull and Copenhagen and shit.
Right.
But really, though, it is interesting that, like, across the board, wherever you go, really,
there is no social movement that has as its larger vision
a futurist vision.
Every one of them, even from Bernie and stuff,
was all looking back.
It was all looking back to a past glory time.
Whereas 100 years ago, communism, obviously,
as interpreted and harnessed by Clinton.
They were going to the moon, dog, literally.
Yeah. that's just
not like and that in turn made us say well hell no yeah we have to go too i just thought that it
was a very sad thing just that like you know these people had lived in this administrative
state and society where they had most of their basic needs and shit taken care of.
And,
um,
obviously you're not going to see that much in their Western press.
And that's why I thought it was interesting that it was in the New York
times.
But I think it's because the,
the writer's framing was like,
was basically trying to show like how dumb they were,
which it's not dumb.
It's just a,
it's just a cynical calculation based on the fact that we're
all pressed up against the fucking wall and we'll all make just about any decision at this point to
get out of our situations our situation you know let me just take any lifeline available i don't
know it's but i mean i don't know all those all those arguments about like you know the being
nostalgic for empire and everything else or or soured feelings on invading through the Ukraine
and all that kind of stuff,
had echoes of cleaning up daddy's mess.
Yeah.
Remember when people used to say that about Bush?
Bush won because he didn't kill Saddam Hussein.
We're going to Iraq just so George W. Bush
could clean up daddies or like
get revenge for hw1 it's like
i mean they're the thing about the the dude i don't know it is it is i don't know it's so
crazy i was thinking about this yesterday like there's a there's like a theory um call it a
conspiracy theory if you want i just refer to i just prefer to call it a theory. Call it a conspiracy theory if you want. I just prefer to call it a theory.
But there is a theory.
I don't believe in it personally.
There is a theory that 9-11 was sort of staged in an attempt to destroy like these.
If I'm getting it correct, it was something like the promissory notes or like the IOUs from like
the late 80s when Reagan and Bush had basically funded all of these clandestine operations to
take down the USSR like a lot of it was housed in like one of the buildings of World Trade Center
and so they torched the motherfucker and all this like I don't there's a lot of assumptions there
but I think the general metaphor is something that is useful to apply to our times.
Like, think about all of the things wrong with the world right now and, like, where they came from.
A lot of them came from us taking down the Soviet Union.
It wasn't a collapse.
The United States actively pushed it over.
Yeah, we had to frame it as a collapse.
That way we could discredit the system, right?
Right, exactly.
If it was like us toppling them or whatever,
it had to collapse under the own weight of its uselessness.
Right.
When in reality, they just got some dipshit at the Gorbachev at the head of
state who wasn't able to react,
you know,
adequately and quickly respond to all of that.
And they threw him a pizza hut bag.
Come on,
man.
I put some pineapples on it.
Like,
here you go.
Yeah.
It's a pineapple motherfucker on it. Like, here you go, Mika. Yeah, it's a pineapple, motherfucker, if there ever was one.
But, like, a lot of things in our today, you know, day and age
can probably be traced back to that,
including this conflict in many ways,
including fucking 9-11, obviously, but even COVID.
I mean, I don't know.. I mean, I don't know.
It's just...
I don't know.
It all comes out the same primordial ooze, man.
The backwash.
Yes.
The backwash.
Yeah.
The detritus of history.
I don't know.
It's been quite a thing to see when like you know and and i'm not casting
aspersions because god knows we've been we're wrong on a semi-regular basis but it is it is
kind of funny to see like everybody like all the the people who like do this beat come up say yeah
we were like dead wrong and you got to admire it
in a certain way but it's like what was it what was the deal with that that was interesting like
i was i think me and you were talking about it it was weird it was like a chorus of mea culpa's and
apologies like about getting it wrong and it's like okay first of all i didn't even know i guess
i wasn't even playing paying close enough attention
we barely even talked about this on the show i feel like in the last couple months it was just
something that i was like i don't really know anything about it i mean like but i didn't know
that there had developed a kind of like blob sort of thought on it you know i didn't know so many
people were invested in the idea of it definitely not happening i don't know i just ever since the pandemic i've been operating on the assumption
that um all predictions are off the table because what have we learned people you will be humbled
you will be humbled some point maybe not today maybe not tomorrow but at some juncture yeah never humble yes never make a
prediction what have we learned yeah prognostications of is a fool's fool's errand
especially these days it's like why do any of us do it right now when like literally any damn
thing could happen man it's it's just gambling
it's like it's it's like putin it's also gambling it's like man if i hit big on this if i get this
right i'm gonna look like a fucking dog you know a g man i'm gonna look like an oracle
jesus christ man well i don't really know much what else to say about it because i don't know
a whole lot about it and uh it was very strange that it had immediately been sort of grafted on to everybody's moral compass to where I saw people virtue signaling.
I never really saw anybody say they supported Putin, but I saw people saying that if you support Putin, you're bad.
But I was like, who's doing that?
Who's supporting Vladimir
fucking Putin? But I guess there
probably are. I don't know. I guess there's
probably streamers.
I bet that's what it is, man.
That goddamn Valsh. It's always the goddamn
streamers.
They always come up with these like,
what? It is funny
how like
there is like sort of this split between the podcast left and the streaming left.
Streamer left.
Streaming left is a whole different thing.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, you're liable to hear any damn thing on there.
Slobodan Milosevic was a brave revolutionary that's what that's what the
vows from the boys was i don't i don't i wonder why that is man is it just because
maybe you does it go to your head a little bit maybe the fame goes to your head a little bit
because like you're on video all the time and you're like i think something that happens is is to the degree there is a take economy and i hate
to say things like that but i feel like you got to get more and more out there and it's just like
gambling like if you say something outlandish and you're right one time out of 20 you look like
a genius uh-huh because like it's like recency bias because nobody remembers the other 19 times that
you fucking screwed the pooch but like if you're right on one batshit call like everybody hells
you is like oh man yeah you're right i do want to know one thing in all this though
is did anybody ever confirm if if soldier boy tell him really was holding up the flag of the
donetsk people's republic or is that a photoshop because i could actually see that kind of being
true because i could see like a bunch of like like the type of guys that would be part of like
the donba separatist groups i could can see them being into Soulja Boy and stuff like that.
Soulja Boy cranked it.
Let's see.
I don't know. I think it might have been Photoshop,
man. I hate to break it to you. That's a disappointment.
No. No, I think this...
Think it is true? Oh, dude, I think
it is. Dog, get straight up. I think it is true oh dude i think it is dog it's straight up i think it is true
soldier boy about to tell him about the donuts people's republic
well you know how like uh you know every once in a while you'll have some like international
bad men pay like nikki minaj like a 40 million dollars to come perform or something like that maybe it's
the Saudis I can't remember yeah like I think one year like Fergie performed for like the
Azerbaijani like government or something like I don't know yeah or cars Kazakhstan or something
like that yeah yeah it was something like yeah and every yeah everyone ever so often you'll have like an artist like go perform for like a
regime of like a quote-unquote rogue state and then they just get pluried in the media for it
you know it's a funny dilemma to be presented with like i mean it's a lot of money do you
think anyone would notice like they chopped up kashogigi, but God damn, it's $40 million for an hour.
Your manager's like, come on, no one will notice.
Come on, let's just do it.
You're like, I don't know.
And then next thing you know, you didn't even know the Yemeni genocide was even a thing. And now you're an apologist for it.
It pays you, I guess, if you're in apologist for it.
It pays you, I guess, if you're in show business,
to at least have a cursory knowledge of who the baddies are.
But the baddies are really everywhere.
If you're performing in the U.S. or Israel, too,
you're performing in the baddies.
Yeah, so Ukraine, final thoughts,
and then let's move on,
because I have nothing more to really say about this,
and my eyes are bleeding from reading so much about it.
But final thoughts,
I don't think the U.S. gives a fuck about what's going on in Ukraine.
They could have it one way or the other. They don't think the U.S. gives a fuck about what's going on in Ukraine. They could have it one way or the other.
They don't care.
I think, well, maybe they do.
Maybe they do have some sort of territorial interest in Ukraine
insofar as they want missiles, missile installations, and bases and shit like that.
But I guess what I'm saying is they don't give a fuck about the civilians of Ukraine.
like they're but then i guess what i'm saying is they don't give a fuck about the civilians of ukraine and so for them to um or for any liberal for that matter to be you know harping on some
sort of like help the people of ukraine bullshit is completely disingenuous same thing as kids at
the border exactly it's the same thing yeah i mean any number of people that have are facing real
nightmare circumstances we only care so much that we can virtue signal for some other aim,
but it's masquerading as that concern for human rights.
Exactly.
Right.
I just don't know enough about U.S. petrol policy or energy policy
to hazard a guess as to why we might have an interest in it.
Right.
Same.
I do feel, just from looking at what's happened that they in large part created the circumstances for if not even went so far as to provoke
putin or you know at the very least created the circumstances for this to happen some sort of provocation and for them to turn around and act
surprised like oh my god i mean what's really crazy is they they they basically called it
down to almost the very day so it makes them look legitimate like they know what they're doing you
know what i'm saying it's just yeah there's just too many like open-ended questions in this you
know as far as like putin's motivations and like how
they fucking knew that this was going to happen and everything so everybody is bad here folks i
guess is what i'm saying did you see trump when he was addressing that crowd the other day after
all this happened what did he say and he was talking about putin and he was like kind of
praising putin a little bit and he was like and then we sit over here and we're gonna throw three dollars worth of sanctions at him and that you know act like
it's like you know what i mean that's what we do you know what i mean like none of that like
really hurts russia's bottom line at all but we have to do you know we don't want to commit
militarily just yet but we have to like act like we're staying with the ukrainian people so we're gonna don't you do that putin right here's yeah we're gonna hit you where it hurts right yeah yeah um
i don't know i yeah i think that it's pretty it seems pretty bad for everybody um and uh
uh yeah i don't know anyways anything else to say about it um i mean no i mean
i guess my takeaway is to support poor and working people wherever they may be ukraine russia wherever
and that's really all you can say about it i think that's a good way to look at it, my man.
That's a good way to look at it.
And also if they're in Letcher County,
specifically near Jenkins, Kentucky,
where a company may mine Bitcoin.
This was on the front page of the Mountain Eagle this week.
That's right.
Bitcoin's coming to Letcher County, folks.
Talk about the detritus of history.
This is funny because I was like,
I read that article last night about Wendell Berry and the New Yorker,
which, by the way, just a snooze fest, nothing
there, I mean, it's just, like, at first, the, the, it's interesting, like, Wendell Berry, at first, I was,
like, at first, when I first encountered him, probably, like, 10 years ago, I was probably,
like, okay, this is cool, and then I went, um, through a period where I was, like, man,
that shit's whack, like, you can't, you know, you can't leave the world.
You can't abandon the world.
It's impossible.
You can't renounce the world and everything in it.
And now I've kind of come full back, you know, circle back to like,
well, maybe you can and should.
Maybe you can.
Not only can you, but you probably should.
No, there are cool.
I never thought of that like Wendell Berry is like an escapist but you're right
yeah there are cooler luddites out there than wendell berry um and he's fine i don't really
know much about him to be honest i've never really read him you don't have any strong
i don't really have any strong praise right but i did read that article just because
well a i thought there might be some red meat in there some content and
there wasn't like i said snooze fest but then it did mention whitesburg and stuff so bro we're in
the new yorker this week oh yeah i thought it was gonna be us that was gonna bring whitesburg to the
new yorker but i guess i was wrong they they beat us wendell beat us win on the boys um but i did think it was kind of funny to
think about trying to explain like wendell barry's like 83 or something like it would be a health
risk if you tried to explain an nft to him a guy who's probably not set he's probably not ever been on a computer in his whole life
if you tried to explain it or cryptocurrency he'd be like
there's there's so much more you would have to explain to him dude yes like a guy dude so you
know how there's those like react videos on youtube like we're gonna get wendell berry to react to the board ape yacht
club yeah like hey johnny knoxville welcome to jackass this week we're gonna tell wendell berry
about nfts he just and there's just no planet where we we could like come to any sort of agreement on what those are.
That's hilarious.
Welcome to Jackass.
This week, we're telling Wendell Berry about crypto.
That would be great to say if Wendell Berry was a good enough sport
to come on the program,
which I don't know if he can do that.
Is that a breaking of his notes
that breaking edge for him yeah it might be i don't know it would be funny if it's just like
cryptocurrency nfts it's just reaction videos of wendell barry and
just like so let me get this straight there's people are selling paintings of monkeys
for hundreds of thousands of dollars and he's just like
it's just so reassured in his choice to just be like this agrarian luddite granddad right
let me read this article a company has leased property at the gateway business park in jenkins
finally finally in the 20 years since they built the goddamn thing someone finally got a business
going there
taylor metal and roofing's been lonely
only game in town up there
only game in town up there right the industrial park now has two tenants
a sheet metal company and a crypto mining
and there's a golf course beside it too i should say that uh-huh strange bedfellows
lease property at the gateway business park in Park in Jenkins for a possible business related to the cryptocurrency Bitcoin.
Biofuel mining and manufacturing will have 60 days before the lease runs out to put its final plans together for the facility.
Biofuel mining was incorporated November 1st, 2021, with Wes Hamilton of Lexington and Brandon D Smith of Hazard as partners I swear to god
if you would have had a camera on my face when I read that sentence just like Brandon Smith
of course of I mean the funny thing about our lives in this kind of like weird little milieu
of like non-profits and economic development and activists of it all like just like it's kind of like a tv show like characters they disappear for some time and
then they resurface again they always re-emerge man for those keeping score at home that might
not be immediately familiar with that name brandon smith is our state senator that not only is, as is per tradition with state senators, has multiple DUIs,
but also was famous for saying that the temperature on Mars is the same as it is on Earth.
Yeah, like that's the last thing I heard from him.
The last time I heard from old Brandon, oh man, I wonder if he can take...
I think what it was is he heard somewhere along the line
that like mars is the most similar like in terms of like the gases and atmosphere and stuff to earth
and i think in his mind he just interpreted that as like oh well they're the same they're the same
temperature i just thought about like a potential like 60 minute segment about like uh all across
the country conservative men named brandon are having to
change their names to brand or something like that like brad or something oh yeah they've
let's go brandon yeah he could have been like just like a victim of circumstance right like
what do you think how do you think conservative men named brandon are responding to that that's so funny though the the last time i checked in on him yes
he was saying that the temperature on mars was the temperature of earth and now he's resurfaced
as a bitcoin entrepreneur he's he's kind of had his hand in various economic development stuff. I think he had a hand in that, like, the wood pellet, like, biochar.
That was going to happen in Hazard.
Did it ever get off the ground?
I don't think it did, no.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't even know if he's still in there.
He's been plugging away for some time, mostly futilely, but.
He takes a lot of L's.
It's crazy.
Let's see.
Plans call for it to manufacture and repair
computer products for the Bitcoin mining
industry and to mine Bitcoin.
The industry is a large electricity
user and chose the Jenkins site
because of its power and natural gas utilities, Mayor Todd DePriest said.
Biofuel Mining and Manufacturing announced its first site in Martin County in November.
Damn, I didn't know Brandon Smith was in on that.
That's crazy.
So is he also in with
Edelund?
I think Edelund's angle
is he's
creating the solar farms that are going to
power these facilities.
So I think what he's thinking
is like, maybe I
can make some money if I create
some infrastructure that assuages concerns about crypto, which are that.
And the reason they're getting ran out of places like the Northeast is because they fuck up, you know.
I mean, the power bills are through the roof and it fucks up people's power bills like your neighbor's power bills by extension.
But it also is just bad for climate.
I see.
Company officials said then that Biofuel
had a contract with Bitmain
to repair application-specific integrated circuits,
an essential component in the computers used to mine Bitcoin.
Bitcoin is a currency that, dude,
we are in for the dumbest
shit imaginable can you i can already fucking see this like this is going to take off for a little
bit you know what i mean before it inevitably crashes which it will but it's going to take
off and i know we've joked about it in the past but we really will literally see attempts by our
local elected officials to naturalize this
as like from mining to mining.
You know what I mean? As this kind of like
Well they're already starting that.
It's like
Bitcoin mining has
zero in common with like coal
mining but they're already using it as sort
of like a messaging tool.
Like you're already miners
why don't you just come mine something different?
And really what mining Bitcoin looks like is,
I guess, tending to a facility
with a bunch of computers hooked into it.
No, it really is the perfect, like,
teach them, like, retrain them to code.
It's like the perfect, like, smooth conduit
to that destination.
You know what I'm saying?
Because it's like, from mining to mining,. You know what I'm saying? Because it's like for mining to mining,
like of course it's already,
I'm sure it's been insult and inserted into hundreds,
if not thousands of grant applications at this point.
But that is really what they're going for here.
And it's like, it checks all the boxes
on their economic development lists.
It's like, it's perfect.
Why did we, of course, of course it would come here. I mean. It's perfect. Of course. Of course it would
come here. I mean, it's perfect for exactly
what they've been trying to do for 10 years now.
Yeah.
Then it has a little
explainer here. Bitcoin is a currency that
exists only online. It is
traded like stocks and can be used for
purchases from some businesses and individuals
or can be traded for real from some businesses and individuals or can be
traded for real world currency such as u.s dollars nations are increasingly regulating the currency
because it is popular as a way to launder money and avoid taxes but some people believe as
regulations increase and the currency becomes safer its value will increase so so here's what
i just want to say some people in, in terms of Eastern Kentucky economic transition,
I'm sure this will be true in other places like West Virginia, Tennessee, Alabama,
different places with struggling economies.
What we're staking our future on is a volatile immaterial asset
that before now has mostly been used by criminals
you know
mr naysayer tom sexton no i'm not i'm not and i i'm not that's not a knock on criminals i
i'm pro criminal I know this
I know what you're saying
I'm just saying it seems like it's going to be a tough
sale like over the long term
yeah
the US began
requiring more reporting of bitcoin transactions
last year the currency is mined
by high speed computers that solve the otherwise
unsolvable mathematical equations
necessary to keep track of the currency online
and keep it secure.
The first computer to solve an equation
gets the next chain of Bitcoin.
As of 4.30 Tuesday afternoon,
one Bitcoin was worth $37,944.
I'm fucking dumb.
I can't even read numbers.
Bitcoin is just one of myriad cryptos
that are traded on the internet
and is the most valuable.
Some of the other popular cryptocurrencies
include Ethereum, Tether,
Binance Coin,
USDC, Cardano,
Polkadot
Dogecoin value was rising rapidly
After being promoted by Tesla and SpaceX
CEO Elon Musk
But has since plummeted
Anyways
The markets for the so called altcoins
Took a big hit over the past two weeks
As Russian troop buildups around Ukraine
Affected currency, stock, and commodities markets worldwide
God damn it It's already fucking impeding troop buildups around ukraine affected currency stock and commodities markets worldwide god damn
it it's already fucking impeding economic development in eastern kentucky i'd just like
to say that to mr putin it's like sir by you doing this you're ruining our just transition to a bright future for appalachia
you don't know that but you are dude i saw just the downright goofiest shit there was so much
funny shit i said i was done talking about it but there was so much funny shit one of my favorites
shit i said i was done talking about it but there was so much funny shit one of my favorites was one was a tweet that said want to make putin mad like really really really mad replace your
gas stoves boilers etc with induction stoves heat pumps and insulation put up some solar panels
campaign like hell for your whole economy to do the same. You're welcome.
All the poor and working people out there,
just spend $20,000 to retrofit your home.
That'll show him.
That'll show the son of a bitch.
Hey, who is this for? Like, yeah, some working Joe just like,
I want to stick it to put man
yeah i'm going to an induction stove man i want that son of a bitch put and tell me what's what
also i love that this would be like this would be like a great like uh the kitchen debates 2022
version you know what i mean it's like putin and like whoever that guy was you're right why does
it not have gas fired stove we use induction sir that's the wave of the future and we're going to
use it to strangle your economy one household at a time i love that statement, too. Campaign like hell for your whole economy to do the same.
Okay.
I'm going to campaign for my whole economy to get induction stoves.
Okay.
I'm going to go to every house on my block and just knock on the door and say,
listen, I'm here to campaign like hell for you to go to an induction stove.
And not just you, but the whole economy but the
whole economy i suggest you go do the same holy shit fuck um this the whole thing is really high
stakes and it's really scary i mean because it seems like in the media, they have made Putin seem like he is
launching the next invasion of fucking like Poland or whatever, you know, it's like,
yes. Okay. I know he did just invade a large part, you know, a large country or whatever,
but I guess what I'm saying is that um do they are they if
they were so prepared for this if they knew it was coming did they have no diplomatic solutions
worked out because like those motherfuckers got a lot of nukes and i'm just not really keen on the
whole idea of like two you know like nuclear superpower it's like getting in this situation where like there was
traditionally uh not the coziest relationship right and just like portraying him as like
i don't know i guess i'm just saying this because i saw a tweet that said uh someone said my mom
thinks putin putin is going to take over europe what the fuck is cable news saying to people right now and i'm just saying like i was just at the gym watching cable
news and it was about like that it was pretty much that like he is moving to take over all of europe
and anybody that like probably cast some doubts on that is they're probably casting as like a
neville chamberlain-esque like figure Right, right. Appeasement thing.
But the thing is, I mean, that's the thing.
Because if you say that, people try to be like,
why are you defending Putin?
And it's like, it's just...
Well, one, we say that because everything that happens in life,
we have to compare it to the Holocaust for some reason.
Right, right.
That's one thing.
Right, exactly.
raising right right that's one thing right exactly but but also like i it seems to me like the united states played a very large role in like walking putin up into this line up to this line
and basically daring him to jump over and like you dared the one motherfucker who probably would do
that why did you do that what the fuck you know and he's got
a lot of nukes like this is just not a good i'm just this is not this is not a good situation
say the least and like a large percentage of the american voting population has just spent the last
five years just ingesting hand over fist all of this like putin tried to disrupt the election which if he
did probably had a pretty good fucking reason for doing so because of what the cia was doing in
ukraine in 2014 and 15 do you remember i think it was in gq or something like that but there was
that piece about the putin youth camps no like maybe 10 15 years ago like early to mid-2000s i
think is when it came out but they showed these pictures and you know who the hell knows like
what the truth of all of it was but like they have been but there's been this like concerted
campaign for some time whether right or wrong to cast him as like being in the
mold of adolf hitler right there has been yeah like they that story literally called them putin
youth camps where they were basically like bringing these kids to these camps and teaching them
whatever and like anti-us propaganda or whatever and there was like one picture of like a bloodied
pig with a u.s flag wrapped around it and whatever, whatever.
I don't know.
And I never knew what the truth of any of that was because he's kind of like Gaddafi in the sense that sometimes there's like this inflammatory, very inflammatory image of him in the media.
And then other times, like, you know, there's like he's kind of softened or whatever uh-huh you know
what i mean and then he'll flare up again or whatever and it's like it's like this character
that like the average american doesn't really know like you know what's like what makes him
tick or anything like that necessarily right for like what we're told so right yeah i don't really know anything about him um i mean it seems to me like
his administration has done a whole fucking lot to like clamp down on people's freedom to
say anything in public against him um but like that also happens in the united states in a different way
right um it's not like obviously like you don't have like the government's you know troopers out
there like arresting you every time you protest a war but at the same time you actually do have
them arresting you every time you go out and protest the war even more even more on a personal level than that if your friend gets shot and killed by a cop and you go protest that
nine times out of ten you're probably going to wind up in a fucking jail cell yourself
having the book thrown at you so i mean we both live in extremely repressive societies
it seems like yeah um it's like yeah maybe we're not poisoning journalists or whatever,
like, you know, that Putin's been accused of doing or whatever.
But, like, we have our own repression and crackdown methods
and ways of dealing with problem people.
Exactly, right.
All of which is to say that pretty much every episode on the past
where we've tried to tease
out the u.s sort of intelligence states like fingerprints on something whether it was from
those groups in michigan who tried to quote-unquote kidnap the michigan governor or whatever i mean
it seems like we've been generally nine times out of ten there's a cop in there embedded somewhere.
Right.
And so, like, I feel like, again, I feel like the U.S. probably, you know, did a whole lot of maneuvering, orchestrating behind the scenes to, like, walk Russia and Putin specifically up to this line and then dare him to cross it.
And so, at that point, it's not just that russia invaded ukraine it's that they did so under a certain set of circumstances that the u.s and the west
and nato created um but it's like that's such a it's such a moving target you know what i mean
that like because then you're like well then who like that is the thing like the u.s doesn't have like a strong man leader that you can't
blame everything on it's got this like we damn sure not much of one
that motherfucker's frail as a goddamn fucking house of popsicle sticks yeah so it's hard to
like point to one person like you know like it is disappointed putin and. So it's hard to, like, point to one person, like, you know,
like it is to just point at Putin and say that.
It's hard to point at one person and say, you know,
this person is taking us to war.
When in reality, it's a lot of different people and everything.
A lot easier to do it when you've got, like, this sort of, like,
icy ex-KGB guy that, you know, your whole life you've been told is this.
He's probably a psychopath.
Oh, I don't doubt about it.
But I'm saying, you know,
I shouldn't say no doubt about it.
I just, we don't know.
Well, yeah, you're right.
Joe Brandon is just
in the bad thing that's happened in the United States
in the last 50 years, Joe Biden had his
fingerprints on it too.
Exactly.
He's a fucking,
uh,
the crypt keeper,
you know?
Right,
right,
right,
right.
He doesn't have the vitality he once did.
So it's hard to like,
be like,
Hey asshole.
I mean,
it's not hard.
It's just that,
you know,
it's going to fall on deaf ears.
Like the guy's so out of it.
They finally figured out a way to put someone at the centerpiece who is afflicted by no guilt or...
Not that Obama did, because Obama was probably a psychopath.
They're all probably psychopaths.
But nothing sticks to them.
So you can't shame them at a public event or anything.
It's just poor old man.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
Shit. Shit. old man yeah yeah oh man shit shit well i got really nothing else um what uh do you nah i mean i guess the other big story maybe we should wait till to have tanya back on to talk about this is this the
texas anti-trans stuff but uh you know i want to give that the time it deserves
it is yeah and i think it's
yeah it's her well it's really um all of these things have been kind of been thrown into the blender for this week.
And that is so comprehensively, you know, comprehensively,
comprehensively, Jesus, repulsive.
I don't know.
It just makes you sick, man.
It's absolutely disgusting.
Yeah, it's like,
it's motherfuckers like greg abbott make their whole
public lives around i'm gonna come in there and stop government overreach and then what do they
do they basically create spy networks and sanction state violence against children
i know now these people are just bullies. I mean, that's the thing. Like, these are, I mean, you want to know who, like, Putin is?
Like, in all honesty, Putin is probably a guy like Greg Abbott.
And we have, the thing about America is we have, like, a lot of fucking Putins slash Greg Abbott's running shit.
Like 150 of them just in the Senate and governors.
Russia probably has one Putin.
We have a fuckload of them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
At least three in every state and sometimes more if you want to talk about Congress.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah.
Or if you want to even bring up the Hitler comparison, I mean, like, which they like
to bring up so much.
It's just like as a psychological profile, you would have to be operating on some kind of shit
that Hitler was operating on to do something like that.
To target an entire demographic of people,
of your constituents,
for not only exclusion and containment,
but eradication, liquidation i mean this is
this is fucked up shit man and uh and um yeah yeah we'll talk about it yeah well one other thing i
want to say before we leave this just sometimes you say something on a podcast and you make a mental note of it.
But I was in no way advocating for the United States of America to launch an invasion on Saudi Arabia.
I was just saying that.
The Saudi royals are, to the degree that terrorism is real, I think it's mostly fake.
You know what I mean?
But to the degree that it's real, they are the world's largest state sponsor of that they did chop up jamal khashoggi they're bad dudes that's all i was trying to say just them
the world would be better without them but i was not saying that not the country itself is what
you're saying you're just saying not the not the not the people of saudi arabia many of who are
literal slaves right right exactly like the people who run it
right right the people that run it i just want to make that clarification list that somebody
said we were advocating for uh u.s invasion of saudi arabia no they're gonna do it tomorrow
the tanks are gonna get rolling and joe biden's gonna go on tv say tom sexton this is what you
want right this is what you want oh're going to turn the pump on now.
Everybody's looking at you like, you motherfucker.
I have a friend that says that corrects me on my Saudi ignorance frequently.
And is something of an expert on the Arab and Muslim worlds.
And she says that the Saudis are basically paper tigers and sort of like running short on their oil supplies, but they can't like act like that.
And that part of the U.S. long game of our energy policy is to kind of like bleed them dry of their resources.
Jesus, before we tap into oil.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, certainly possible.esus christ dog yeah the world is a really bad place
um it its badness is well i wouldn't say all of it i mean you obviously the world is complex but a large large percentage probably more than 75 percent of it maybe
i'd say that badness probably comes from the u.s empire and what it does yeah right right
and honestly and and honestly the way that it operates is really and and the imperatives on which it operates are what inspire and
naturalize the shit that goes on in texas like that law like they're two parts of the same coin
you know what i'm saying like um we have a sort of like naturalized, you know, militaristic logic that, you know, influences governing in this country.
And especially at the state level.
I mean, especially at the state level.
I mean, look at what these states do with like prisons and stuff.
It's really no different than that.
I don't know, man.
States got gotta go.
The states, they gotta go.
The states, abolish them, folks.
I say abolish the states.
People say abolish the Senate.
Well, you could do that by abolishing the states.
Yeah.
I don't know how, what would you,
we would replace that with.
You think if in an abolish the state situation,
we would still keep the arbitrary lines and the sort of like
micro-nationalism that comes with supporting our sports teams
and stuff like that, or do you think it's all got to go?
I think you could still have that.
I think you could still have like a region.
We would just be the Kentucky.
Yes, we would be the Kentucky.
Yeah, I think you could still have some of that.
But like a deterritorialized, just borderless mass.
I don't know.
I guess you do need administrative units.
Don't get me wrong.
I'm not saying you don't.
But the way that they're set up now.
Terrence Ray, you heard it here.
Terrence Ray lobbying to bring viceroys back.
You know, that was a good title.
Let's just abolish Congress and governors and senators and all that stuff
and every state gets a viceroy.
If it's a viceroy.
That was a good title, man.
Governor?
That shit's boring as fuck.
Viceroy, though?
Viceroy.
I just think of that Star Wars Natalie Portman.
Viceroy.
Her British accent
in that shit sucks.
It's pretty bad.
It fooled me because I didn't know that she was
American until that story about Jonathan
Safran Foley risking it all for her.
Even when she was
not into it a little bit.
That and
Moby having claimed to have dated her
when she was underage.
Whatever you want to say about Natalie Portman,
she's had to deal with some real winners.
Truly.
Before we go, I've been meaning to do this.
I meant to do this on the last Patreon up.
Aaron's been on a few podcasts and you have too.
You want to plug one of those?
Oh yeah, Aaron and I were on the West Wing thing
where we took a little journey
into Hillary Clinton's master class
and learned about negotiation,
which, spoiler, former Klansman
and avid segregationist Robert Byrd figures heavily.
Really? Yeah. and avid segregationist Robert Byrd figures heavily.
Really?
Yeah.
God, does she, like, use him as an aspiring... Well, I don't want to spoil it.
I guess you could go over to the...
Go listen, yeah, go listen to the West Wing thing,
I guess from last week,
before all this craziness started happening.
I forgot Aaron found a Patreon page
for the Ukrainian military.
Oh my God, dude.
For your recurring gift of $1,000 a month,
you can provide the Ukrainian military
with one Scud missile.
Give that to us.
If I knew it was that easy
to fund a paramilitary group,
fuck!
Let a thousand
paramilitary groups bloom.
I just really,
I don't advocate for that.
I just want an excuse
to ride around Whitesburg
in some army fatigues
with a bunch of
meaningless medallions on my
chest and right um motherfucker i cannot find well go to aaron's twitter page and
you can find them there sorry aaron i. I thought I bookmarked it.
But the thing is,
the thing is, like,
my bookmark tabs has now turned into, like,
my likes tab, basically.
On the old alt.
I just lurk on the alt now.
Because I like the people I follow better on the alt
than I do my regular account.
I mean, I mean I mean never I mean I do
like all of you people I follow on my regular account definitely nothing I definitely don't
have 90% of you muted um all right well why don't you go over to the patreon www.patreon.com p-a-t-r-e-o-n.com
slash trailbilly workers party help us get a scud missile help us let's run our numbers up
so we can buy heavy artillery it's also it's just like how can you do that what would you do if you
what would you buy i don't know if i'd buy a scud missile the thing is the thing about a missile is
you gotta have some way to fire it and i don't know if i want to i don't know if i want to
shell out no pun intended for the thing to fire the missile.
You know?
So, like, so maybe.
If I were funding a paramilitary organization or an army or something,
I would invest money in the uniforms because it's like Leon Sanders said.
If you look good, you play good,
and if you play good, they pay good.
That's what I would do.
That is the perfect answer.
Most people would be like,
no, I want an F315 or something.
Is that a truck?
An F350 is the big Ford dually. 315 or something. Is that a truck? Alright.
An F-350 is the big
Ford dually, I think.
Yeah, the big one.
Or a fighter jet.
So you wouldn't focus on
like
amphibious
tech. No, listen.
Or air tech. Also, I don't
need that culpability of, like,
I might have bought something that, like, took another human life,
but a uniform never took anybody's life, you know?
Yeah, you're right, dude.
It just come through dripping.
People in uniform have certainly taken people's lives,
but the uniform itself has not caused any deaths.
Unless it's whiplash.
You know, you break your neck
from looking at how good
the boys look in that.
And girls.
And gender non-conforming people.
Fucking rubbernecking.
Oh my gosh. Is that Tom Sexton's
army?
That's how we
do battle.
Everybody dies from rubbernecking
us because we look so good.
Right. They walk past each other
and whoever
turns their head
more gently wins.
Doesn't snap their lumbar, their C7
lumbar.
Yeah.
Oh man, that's pretty good. we would all have the same haircut too yeah yeah yeah i don't know what what we would go with right off the top but you'd spend a lot of a lot of
money getting haircuts for sure like that you know that's the thing like they just go they
just shave it but no like bring an actual barber in there get them fucking ed like that you know that's the thing like they just go they just shave it but no like
bring an actual barber in there get them fucking edgy up you know yeah doing all kinds of craziest
designs in the here in the side yeah i'm thinking we would put like either the dale earnhardt number
three or the kentucky wildcats logo in the back of everybody's head that's what we'd do
with some razor stripes on the side.
Uh-huh.
And send a message.
Uh-huh, yeah.
Draped up and draped out.
Have some entertainers kind of go,
you know, like in Mad Max,
that guy that played the guitar?
Yeah.
You could have a procession of entertainers.
Yeah.
Rapping specifically like 2005 Houston rap.
Right, right, right.
You'll have like a guy that's just super jacked
and plays a brass instrument
like the Lost Boys, like the Sexy Sax Man.
Uh-huh.
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For those on the free feed, we'll be off next week.
We're going to be in Nashville.
Thanks for reminding me.
Next week is one of the rare occasions where we are all booked up all week.
Not with shows, but like me with personal shit.
But we've also got a show in Nashville.
So if you're in Nashville and you go to the show,
you'll just get to see the episode.
You'll get to see it in person but
if not i'm sorry uh but i'm sure it'll be released at some point um and but we will be
putting out an episode next week so thanks for reminding me of that and is there any other
announcements i think that is it.
Community announcements?
Community Corner?
When I was doing radio,
they used to make you do the community calendar
and they would never update it.
So you'd have shit
from like nine months before.
Yeah.
Yeah, if you're in Lexington, Kentucky,
don't come to the borough
and see Slut Pilled
and the local honeys.
Mm-hmm.
Maddie Dan Carter's gonna be there. Maddie Dan Carter's gonna be there.
Maddie Dan Carter there.
Go show him some love.
Go give him a hug.
He needs a hug.
Give him a hug.
Oh, man.
That does remind me, though,
us talking about that guy,
the one guy who had heard of cancel culture but not COVID.
Could you imagine the guy who is that same guy?
He is just 1,000% convinced that Russia will not invade Ukraine.
Just like all these other pundits and stuff yeah
but he has to issue an apology like he comes out into the real world he looks around what the fuck
or or like he's like um he has the most batshit insane ideas about everything else and so you
discredit me but he knew beyond a shadow of a doubt
that Putin was going to invade Ukraine.
That was like his one thing he was sure of.
But because he started talking about lizard people
and whatever else,
they wrote him off as a kook.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, thanks for listening this week, everybody.
We'll see you next time.
Peace out.