Trillbilly Worker's Party - Episode 33: KILL BILLies, Vol. 2: Haint Tales

Episode Date: October 31, 2017

Scary stories from special guests: Felix Biederman, Elizabeth Catte & Josh Howard, Emily Hilliard, Drew Nutter, and Sally Sexton. The second part to our two part Halloween special. Tracklisting (Star...t Time): Intro "Sexual Hauntings" by Emily Hilliard (3:29) "Bullseye" by Drew Nutter (10:29) "The Gathright Phantom of Lake Moomaw" by Elizabeth Catte + Josh Howard (11:58) "Virginia Haint Tales" by Tom + Tarence (15:47) "Adactilydium" by Tarence (26:12) "The Great Chicago Potted Plant Caper of 2006, a Psychological Thriller" by Felix Biederman (32:55) "The Big Toe" by Sally Sexton (Tom's Grandmother) (50:26) Outro: "Halloween Town 2012" by Dog Layer

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Five years ago, the Trillbilly Workers Party, Masters of the Macabre, created their hallmark of horror. Kill those sisters! Many would argue that nothing of significance has happened since. Until now. There's no life without darkness. I can't. Cheers. Hello everybody. This is so weird right now because Terrence and I are huddled to one mic like a goddamn doo-wop group.
Starting point is 00:01:29 We've been pushed to the margins of the podcasting world. We live in an alternate reality in which Tom and I have been exiled to podcasting purgatory. Where we no longer get our own mics. Everybody only gets one mic. We have to share it. Share a set of headphones. Share a set of headphones. Share one mic and pretend we're a doo-wop group.
Starting point is 00:01:57 But the quality is not that bad. Does it sound good? It sounds pretty good. I can't hear shit. It sounds pretty good in headphones. Take this on faith. We're good. Welcome, everybody. right sound good sounds pretty good it sounds pretty good it sounds pretty good take take take this on faith we're good um welcome everybody it's a part two of our halloween special um you can check out part one it's called volume one kill bill is this one might be called
Starting point is 00:02:18 oh hell i don't know volume two right uhies. Right. Something like that. We have some scary stories lined up today for you all. In the great Appalachian storytelling tradition. The haint tale tradition, as we call it. Right. And we even have a Midwesterner submitting a story, too. And, you know, there's some overlap between... We got a West coaster too and a west coaster too right we're all over the map we're all over the map it's it's uh we got to
Starting point is 00:02:51 end this regionalism right yeah like john kelly said compromise or lack of compromise caused the civil war so uh you know that's how you know we're recording this literally on the day of Halloween. This is how bad we've procrastinated and why we're exiled to one Mike Island. Anyways, so we're going to go ahead and get some of these started. But we'll be interjecting, I think, at various points with our own stupid-ass scary stories. Hope you enjoy. So I've recently come into possession of this book entitled Sexual Hauntings Through the Ages, published in 1993 by Colin Waters. in 1993 by Colin Waters. And I'll read the NFLAP description of this book that has been quite an inspiration to my own imagination and fantasy life, I must say. So Sexual Hauntings Through
Starting point is 00:04:00 the Ages is a titillating collection of over 40 real cases gathered from around the world and ranging from harmless naked figures to horrifying and bizarre entities who have brought death and destruction to those who have come into contact with them. Dark rectories, modern airports, ordinary private houses, and pleasant country estates all have their stories to tell. Ghostly figures of hooded monks, headless bodies, and strange goblin-like figures compete in their attempts to spread terror, as do the spirits of noisy skulls, unearthly disembodied screams, and the naked dancer who appeared in the middle of a crowded dance floor. I think I was at that party, actually. Author Colin Waters is by no means a firm believer in all things ghostly,
Starting point is 00:04:51 but his open-minded approach to his subject is evident. In his efforts to present only genuine cases, he has intentionally discarded a number of stories where details were unclear or some facts were doubtful. So this is a thoroughly curated volume. What remains is an absorbing collection of sexual hauntings, many of which are here told for the first time. The reader is left to make up his or her own mind as to the explanation behind them. So, because this book has been such an inspiration for me, and I think actually the titles themselves are actually just as good as the stories, if not better,
Starting point is 00:05:38 and I thought they might inspire some of your own tales of sexual hauntings. your own tales of sexual hauntings. And they've actually inspired some of ours. In fact, at a party this past Saturday in Charleston, West Virginia, we created our own titles for sexual hauntings based on those included in this volume. i'm gonna read some of my favorite titles and then some of the few that we made up um so to begin naked embrace at reddell's den rectory there's a lot of rectories in this book. I think maybe because it sounds like something else. I don't know, maybe there's a lot of sexual hauntings that happen in rectories. Patty's Backyard The Brothel for Ghosts and Specters
Starting point is 00:06:39 Mary Fitton Visits Australia The Ghost of the sex-crazed cat. The wicked highway woman. The voyeuristic wizard. The marquee and the radiant boy. The transvestite valet. Granny's woodshed. Naked bald Agnes
Starting point is 00:07:06 The heavy breather of Heathrow The mooner of Romney Marsh Archibald's orgy in hell A sight for sore eyes The flagellated nun The gelded ghost The groaning bubbles The urinating goblin
Starting point is 00:07:35 Ravished by a glass tube in the Tower of London The skulls that had sex Fanny of Cock Lane, the marriage bed monk, the naked five who refused to die, the gypsy girl and her lesbian lover, the ghosts who broke wind. I'm not sure why that's included in a sexual hauntings book, but no kink shaming. The choof at choof cottage. The copulating couple. The phantom The Phantom Groper of Borley Rectory. Australia's Adam and Eve. Bathtime at Sutherfellside.
Starting point is 00:08:36 The Screams of the Homosexual King. The Ghostly Pickup. And The Suckling Witch. And now for a few original titles, collaboratively created. The New Bile Dungeon of the Pulsing Used Bookstore. The Horny Fish-Netted Haint of the Scottish Highlands. The Langwood Naked Hitchhiker Pegging the Senate Floor The Desperately Leather Castle at Suck Cemetery The Masticating Sensual Bus Boy
Starting point is 00:09:15 The Spooning Skeleton at the Abandoned Pool House The Frosty Manhole at Appalachian Power Park. And that's actually the name of our minor league baseball stadium here in Charleston, West Virginia. I don't think I've discovered the Frosty Manhole bar at the ballpark, but maybe next season. Sounds pretty cool. season. Sounds pretty cool. The baker with elephantitis in the dungeon. The sex-starved earlobe in the
Starting point is 00:09:51 rambling bog. The sweaty lovers fucking in Joe's apartment. The furries skull-fucking the undead at Long Point. The messy succubus farts in the castle of Berkeley Springs, which is a real castle in the eastern panhandle of West Virginia, in fact. And to round it out, the caressing werewolves of London at Old MacDonald's Farm.
Starting point is 00:10:32 What's up, Trillbillies? It's your number one favorite guest, Drew Nutter, reporting live. Well, not reporting live. This is a fucking recording, but you know what I'm saying. Here in England, here in sunny London, England, and I wanted to tell you guys a spooky Halloween story so when I was
Starting point is 00:10:51 about 10 years old I took a shower and because I'm a very very fancy man the shower in my mom's house has a glass door opposed to a curtain. And obviously this glass door gets all fogged up whenever you take a hot shower. I had finished my shower and I'd opened the window and all of the sort of fog on the glass door had gone away except for the shape of a perfect crosshairs, like the crosshairs that you would see in a sniper rifle. This was happening in the middle of the DC sniper killing spree.
Starting point is 00:11:38 Upon later review, I think I might have dreamed this, but I remember it like it actually happened to me. So happy Halloween to the Trillbillies, to all your listeners, and stay safe and spooky out in EKY. Big love. This is the Gathrite Phantom of Lake Newmaw by Elizabeth Catt, read by Josh Howard. It came to pass one day that an old redneck, let's call him Rodney, found himself in a bind down there at the Gathrite Wildlife Management Area in southwest Virginia on a frosty winter night. Rodney had just finished an unsuccessful day of hunting and was heading back to his truck empty-handed apart from his best dog and some Slim Jim wrappers when he heard what sounded like a crunch of tires on gravel in the ridge below. I'm caught, Rodney thought to himself, but I ain't gonna make it easy on him. Rodney had been hunting without a license, you see,
Starting point is 00:12:40 and figured a game warden had seen his truck and decided to investigate. He was a well-known poacher, and he had escaped many fines, but everyone knew his truck, and he didn't blame the warden for thinking he was up to no good, because he was. Rodney turned off his flashlights, grabbed his dog, and settled into the little bit of cupboard offered to them by a small cluster of trees up on the ridge. It was fiercely cold, and it snowed the night before, and his dog was reckless. Rodney took stock of his options and determined there was no way he could loop back to his truck without being seen, unless he wanted to walk a few miles through the snow in the dark, and his only hope was that his makeshift blind, slightly above the warden
Starting point is 00:13:18 on the ridge, would conceal his position. Sure enough, Rodney soon spotted the glow of a flashlight about a quarter mile in the distance, and judged by the way the warden was walking back and forth several dozen yards before moving up a bit in the direction of the ridge and repeating the process, he was determined. It was almost an hour before the warden made it near the ridge, and Rodney felt frozen. If he starts coming up this ridge, I'm just going to turn myself in, he said to himself. Although he dreaded the confrontation, there was something not right, he thought, about the way the warden was moving. Slow and with a pattern, but also never stopping to check his phone or investigate an area more closely, and that flashlight beam was almost too steady. He almost couldn't make out any features on the person below, or a uniform, and he couldn't be completely sure it wasn't someone up to something worse than coaching.
Starting point is 00:14:09 His dog had also taken to whimpering, not loudly, but with a low whine that Rodney had never heard before. As quietly as possible, Rodney took his eyes off the warden and started going through his pockets to make sure there wasn't anything on him that might get him into a little bit of extra trouble with the law, just in case it came to that. But when he looked up, that light had vanished. It was pitch dark, and it seemed impossible that someone would try to navigate out of those woods without a flashlight. Just to be sure, however, Rodney sat there for another two hours, listening for, but never hearing,
Starting point is 00:14:43 the crunching noise that had taken for a truck pulling out the lane when he decided to make a break for his truck rodney didn't know whether or not to run or to walk slow or to try to creep real silent he had to be careful going down the ridge but what helped him make up his mind to run was when he saw a more like what he didn't see, down below. There was no tracks in the snow, no footprints whatsoever. Rodney had, in his mind, marked out the warden's entire journey back and forth by the tree line, but he couldn't find a single disturbance in the snow, so he ran. Now on that night, Rodney vowed to never go illegally hunting ever again, but it wasn't long before he broke that promise. This time, Rodney wasn't out all night, and the weather was finer.
Starting point is 00:15:28 But when he got back to Gathright, sure enough, walking back to his truck after another unsuccessful outing, he heard a truck pull up behind him, too close to be friendly. Angrily, he turned around, but there was nothing and no one there. And this time, Rodney never went poaching again. You just heard stories from Emily Hilliard, our good friend Drew Nutter. Elizabeth Kett and Josh Howard.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Yeah. And I think that catches us up. That catches us up. You brought an interesting volume in here, Terrence. I have a volume of Virginia Folk Tales, one of which I wanted you to read because it was right up your alley both of them both of the there's three that I marked out and maybe I'll read two of them one of them overlaps very nicely with the themes of the show this is from Fletcher Sulfurage in Coburn Weiss County County, November 18, 1940. It was about 25, maybe 30 years ago.
Starting point is 00:16:52 There was an old man named Greer, lived out in Flatwoods, right close to where I was raised. He was called an unbeliever, didn't go to meeting, or didn't believe in any church or anything. This old man had a wife and several children. One boy, about 15 years old old was an awful good singer. This boy took sick and died, and they buried him in the graveyard up on the point just above the house. About a year, maybe not that long after the boy died, there was a big revival going on near Greer's,
Starting point is 00:17:17 and his wife and girls all went. He wouldn't go, stayed at home by himself. They would try to get him to go to the meetings, but he wouldn't do it. They got the preacher to come out one night and talk to him, trying to get him to go, but it done no good. He said, no, you would just as well hush. I'm not going. The revival went on. The girls were all saved. Mrs. Greer had been a Christian a long time. One night, just after the meeting had broke up, and they got home, and they were sitting around talking,
Starting point is 00:17:46 and Mrs. Greer and the girls was pleading with him to go next night they heard somebody singing went like it was up at that graveyard and just plumb blank which was the old word for exactly which is i found out like the boy that had died it came nearer and nearer till it seemed to be right over the house then it stopped a little in a little light come right through the wall in the corner of the house and moved right around next to the ceiling until it was right over the bed where Mr. Greer and his wife slept, and came right down the wall and went under the bed. They looked under the bed, but couldn't see anything. But after a while, it came out and went right back up the wall, around the ceiling, and out through the wall. Then the singing started again and went off up the hill toward the graveyard. It was exactly 10 o'clock when it started. Next night they got home earlier than usual and had
Starting point is 00:18:29 gone to bed by that time. They heard the singing again and again. It came on down the point and over the house and hushed. Then the light came through the wall and around the ceiling and down the wall and under the bed. And the bed just lifted up and set over in the floor and began to dance about it's pretty creepy they jumped out of it and mr greer it's funny to imagine them being in the bed while the bed is dancing but they jumped out of it and mr greer grabbed it and tried to hold it but it just throwed him about and kept on jumping about after a while the bed moved back to where it had been, and the light came out from under it, crept back up the wall, around the edge, and out through the solid wall, and the singing started off again. It got rumored around, and the whole neighborhood gathered in to
Starting point is 00:19:14 see and hear it. The fifth night, everybody at meeting, which is church, nearly came to see it. It'd done the same thing. Four of the strongest men they could pick out got one of each corner and tried to hold the bed in place, but they just couldn't do it. It just stirred them about, same as if they had been dolls. It just kept right on. Mr. Greer seemed to be thinking a lot. The sixth night, his wife talked him into going to meeting. Again, that's church.
Starting point is 00:19:38 That night, it came again. The seventh night, he went to and went to the mourner's bitch. That night, it was just the same thing. The ninth night, he confessed religion, and the singing was not heard at the light scene anymore. I didn't see this or hear it myself, but there are lots of people in the Flatwoods who was there and seen it and heard it. I don't know what it was or what it was for, but it converted old man Greer. I've done the same thing several nights after getting really, really drunk. I swear I ain't't gonna do it again
Starting point is 00:20:06 deliver me from this right right you know that's interesting because that story mirrors the johnny booger story does it a little bit like the one you remember the guy we went and visited his grave yeah halloween yeah we do dumb stuff like that right right right how so what is the johnny but what are the outlines? Johnny Boogers is a little bit different, because he was like an avowed witch, but like the same details about making the bed dance. The dead dance.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Right, right, right. That's pretty tight. I just like the dancing bed. But poltergeist experiences are uniquely terrifying, I think. Because it's like you have a ghost or apparition manipulating matter. Yeah. And that's pretty fucking scary. That is pretty creepy.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Yeah. Yeah, I think of all the ghostly shit, like seeing stuff and all that kind of stuff, the poltergeist thing is the creepiest because it's at least somewhat plausible. Right. You know what I mean? Right. Not like I believe in ghosts necessarily, but what I'm saying is, like, I don't know. It just seems like, you know, stuff shit moving.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Right. It's much more plausible than seeing, like, a ghostly fucking Robert E. Lee figure in a graveyard or something. Oh, I agree. So there was one I wanted you to read in the style of... What's his name? Jenkins? Or whatever that calls into the swap shop. Jankum? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:40 Jankum. You don't have to read the whole thing that way. But I just... It's a very short one. I don't know if I could stay in character the whole time The awfulest hank tale I ever heard Was one back then It's alright the name of this one is A ghost makes a couple argue
Starting point is 00:21:56 Rachel Gardner Interviewed by James Taylor Adams In Glenmorgan Wise County Virginia May 5th 1941 All the best stories in thismorgan, Wise County, Virginia on May 5th 1941. All the best stories in this volume come from Wise County Southwest Virginia. The awfulest hank tale I ever heard was one about
Starting point is 00:22:13 old man Smith Fouts who died with typhoid over on Lion Fork of the Kentucky River. If Roy the informant's brother, Roy Mitchell, was here, he could tell it so that it... All the little sick boxes are fucking
Starting point is 00:22:30 in. Right. You gotta get in the character. Yeah. Let me start from the top. Okay. The awfulest hank tale I ever heard was one about old man Smith Fouts, who died with typhoid over on Lion Fork on Kentucky River.
Starting point is 00:22:46 If Roy, the informant's brother, Roy Mitchell, was here, he could tell it so that it is a sight to hear. Roy told me about it. Roy married old man Fouts' girl. All of the family nearly died in one fall with typhoid fever. You know it hit, you know it used to strike in here and kill a lot of people. All of his children and his wife had already died, and he was going down with it at Brother Roy's. He knowed he was going to die, so he told them before he died that he wanted them to burn the bed he was lying on. Well, after he died, they didn't burn it.
Starting point is 00:23:22 You've got to burn the fucking bed. Burn the bed, people. Always burn the bed of your sick relatives that die. It wasn't long until Roy and his wife started falling out and fussing. And one night they was mad and was sleeping in separate beds. One of them was sleeping on the bed on which old man Fouts had died. All at once, somebody knocked on the door. Roy said,
Starting point is 00:23:47 Who's there and what do you want? Never heard a thing, said. They were knocking again. Roy asked them what they was wanting and who it was. Then something said, It's me, Roy Smith. Don't you know my voice? You promised to burn that bed.
Starting point is 00:24:05 You'll never see any peace and satisfaction until you do. I had the typhoid. I had the typhoid. That was all they heard. These people obviously weren't hypochondriacs. If it was me and you, we would have burnt that fucking bed. We would have burned the house. So Roy and his wife
Starting point is 00:24:22 got friendly and talked about it. And Roy said he'd burn the bed. But she didn't want to burn it. So he went on a few days, and they had another big racket, and they'd go past speaking. And that night they was sleeping in separate beds when they heard somebody knock again. Roy asked who it was, and he said,
Starting point is 00:24:39 It's me, Roy. Burn that bed, and you'll live a happy life. And if you don't, you'll never see any more peace. They put it off and they just fussed and fussed. If I had been visited by an apparition one time and they told me to burn the bed,
Starting point is 00:24:59 I'd burnt the goddamn bed. Well, she might have been like me. She might have been one of those people that thought that exposure... Super skeptical. Yeah, super might have been like me. She might have been one of those people that thought that exposure... Super skeptical. Yeah, super skeptical of ghosts and that exposure to germs and other stuff bolstered your immune system. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:25:12 She was like, I like sleeping in typhoid bed and ghosts aren't real. So I'm the... You're the person. Yeah. I'm the woman in this scenario. The wife in this scenario.
Starting point is 00:25:22 You're the husband. They put it off and they just fussed and fussed. They never had any trouble till then. But then they couldn't give one another a good word. Then they heard it again and again, five or six more times, till one morning Roy got up and told his wife she could say what she wanted to, but he's going to burn that old deathbed. And he rolled it up and carried it out in the yard and he burned it.
Starting point is 00:25:45 They never heard anything again. And after that, they got along as good as any two people ever did. So what I like so much about this story was that it's prefaced with the awfulest haint tale I ever heard. It's like,
Starting point is 00:26:02 this is the most awful haint tale you ever heard. A hang is an old, old antiquated mountain word for ghost, for those, for the uninitiated. I mean, it's pretty scary. I only had one more story that I brought, and it wasn't, and I think I've told you about it before. And I could read it from the book that I brought it in, and maybe I'll do that. And it's not a scary story. It's total, it's science. If it's in the same's not a scary story it's total it's science it's
Starting point is 00:26:25 it's the sort of it's in the same vein as a rabies thing oh okay it's one of those things it's like real life alien um chest burster scene you know what i'm saying okay this is from stephen j gould's The Panda's Thumb. More reflections in natural history. The name of this chapter is called Death Before Birth. I think I've told you about this before, but just suspend all. I'm going to act like I've not heard this before. Like you've not heard it, but you may not recognize it.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Consider the curious life of a male mite in the genus Adactylidium, as described by E.A. Albadri and MSF. I don't, these are irrelevant names. It emerges from its mother's body and promptly dies within a few hours, having done apparently nothing during its brief life. It attempts, while outside its mother, neither to feed nor to mate. We know about creatures with short adult lives that may fly a single day after a much lengthier larval life, for example, but the mayfly mates and ensures the continuity of its kind during these few precious hours.
Starting point is 00:27:35 The males of Adactylidium seem to do nothing at all but emerge and die. To solve the mystery, we must study the entire life cycle and look inside the mother's body. So, buckle up. The impregnated female of Adactylidium attaches to the egg of a thrips. A thrips is like another small insect. That single egg provides the only source of nutrition for rearing all her offspring, for she will feed on nothing else before her death. This mite, so far as we know, engages exclusively in sib mating. Thus, it should produce a minimal number of males. Moreover,
Starting point is 00:28:12 since total reproductive energy is so strongly constrained by the nutritional resources of a single thrips egg, progeny are strictly limited, and the more females, the better. Indeed, Adactylidium matches our prediction by raising a brood of five to eight sisters accompanied by a single male who will serve as both brother and husband to them all. But producing a single male is chancy. If it dies, all sisters will remain virgins and their mother's evolutionary life is over. If the mite takes a chance on producing but a single male, thus maximizing its potential brood of fertile females, two other adaptations might lessen the risk, providing both protection for
Starting point is 00:28:52 the male and guaranteed proximity to his sisters. What better than to rear the brood entirely within a mother's body, feeding both larvae and adults within her, and even allowing copulation to occur inside her protective shell. Indeed, about 48 hours after she attaches to the thrips egg, six to nine eggs hatch within the body of a female adactylidium. Nice. Yes. Six to nine.
Starting point is 00:29:19 It's all throughout nature. It's like a spiral. It's a perfect fucking form. The larva, the larvae feed on their mother's body literally devouring her from inside two days later the offspring reach maturity and the single male copulates with all his sisters by this time the mother's tissues have disintegrated and her body space is a mass of adult mites, their feces, and their discarded larval and nymphal skeletons. The offspring then cut holes through their mother's body wall and emerge.
Starting point is 00:29:52 The females must now find a thrips egg and begin the process again. But the males have already fulfilled their evolutionary role before, quote, birth. They emerge, react however a mite does to the glories of the outside world and promptly die how long does that whole process is that just a continual yeah it's just so like as soon as you're born that's your lot that's your it that's your it's just the recap for everybody the wikipedia page does a much better job of condensing all that down to a few short sentences but i'll just want to recap for everybody. Dactylidium is a genus of mites known for its unusual life cycle.
Starting point is 00:30:31 The pregnant female mite feeds upon a single egg of a thrips, growing five to eight female offspring and one male in her body. The offspring devoured their mother from the inside out, and the single male mite mates with all the daughters when they are still in the mother. The females, now impregnated, cut holes in their mother's body so that they can emerge to find new thrips eggs. The male emerges as well, but does not look for food or new mates and dies within a few
Starting point is 00:30:54 hours. The females die at the age of four days when their own offspring eat them alive from the inside. There's so much horror there. That's horror, my friends friends you don't have to look far there's nothing you're born you commit incest you fucking die there's nothing supernatural metaphysical whatever about it it's it is cut and dried the world is full of horrors there is no evil in the world it's all it is all just as it is. Wow.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Yep. So that to me is a fitting part two to the rabies discussion of the true horrors of the natural world. God. Man. Let's start a new genre, horror stories of the natural world. Reality is much scarier than like, yeah, walking in a dark alley and fucking seeing a ghost bullshit
Starting point is 00:31:47 right it really is it really is rabies is the most well i'm gonna say it's the second uh probably second worst fate next to uh uh boning all your sisters and then fucking just dropping dead and then and then if you're a lady fucking eating your mother from the inside out. Right. And then having your offspring eat you from the inside out when they get old enough. Alright, well on that note, we've really set up Felix's story, so
Starting point is 00:32:15 that's great. We'll end ours here. We'll hear one from Felix and we'll hear one from your grandma, right? We've got a good Chapo Tram House garn'll hear one from your grandma, right? And then we'll... We've got a good feet. We've got a good Chapo Trap House garnet... What's your grandma's name? Sally Sexton.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Sally Sexton Mashup. Chapo Trap House collaboration. Thanks for everybody for joining us and for submitting your stories this week for our Halloween special. We would like to wish you all a great Halloween. And try not to get too spooked. And try not to eat your mother from the inside out. Try not to eat your mother from the inside out. We thank you all a great Halloween and try not to get too spooked and try not to eat your mother try not to eat your mother from the inside out we thank you all hello trailblazers family this is Felix Biederman from Choppo I am
Starting point is 00:33:05 giving you my scary story for the Halloween episode I have scarier stories that have happened in my life but they're kind of downers most of the scary stories
Starting point is 00:33:21 that people experience they don't have like a they don't really have like a true conclusion, or they're not fun to listen to, and they're just kind of, you know, they're either something tragic and terrifying that happened to you, or it's, if you know a really stupid person, it's them talking about the time that they thought they ran into a ghost. So, without further ado, here is the story from my adolescence when I was 16 the guy the other kid I hung out with the most he had this older brother his older brother Brian was this 27 year old who hung who hung out with 15- and 16-year-olds, like his little brother's friends. He was that type of dude. And we thought he was cool because he could get alcohol,
Starting point is 00:34:17 and he had all these stories. He was like a drug dealer in high school who later became a guy who robbed drug dealers, and so there would always be something weird going on with him like he drove this suv and one day he pulls up and just the entire front seat is like charred it's like fucking bombed out and we go brian what the fuck happened and he goes uh oh yeah someone threw a grenade in my car, someone who hates me. And he would always just, you know, this was sort of like a matter of fact thing. Like if you went into his house, there would always be a new weird thing there.
Starting point is 00:34:56 There would be a slot machine one day or a fish tank that always had some weird story to it that really didn't make any sense. He had all these little bottles of liquor you get on airplanes on top of all his weird accoutrements and we would ask to drink them, of course, and he would say, no, those are collector's items. But the year is 2006. I am 16 years old. I'm like a shitty little upper-middle-class kid from Hyde Park, which is where UChicago is, a kid who is very bored by others in his class
Starting point is 00:35:49 and has just a lifelong rebellious phase where he doesn't want to do school and he's bored by everything and just likes to game and post online and do reckless shit with people from outside his class of origin. So that brings me to Wrigleyville in Chicago, Illinois, where the Chicago Cubs are. For those of you who don't know, Wrigleyville is, take all the worst qualities of the upper middle class Trump suburbs, put them in the middle of the city, and add an alcoholism rate of 100%, and there you go. It's like a little Rhodesia in Chicago.
Starting point is 00:36:32 It's like a little white ethnostate in the middle of the city, and it is just fucking hell on earth. And Brian had an apartment there with all the, you know, slot machines and fish tanks and fucking, you know, slot machines, and fish tanks, and fucking, you know, couches that talk to you, because they had a pre-Alexa, like, fucking voice thing, and we, we would hang out there sometimes,
Starting point is 00:36:59 like, so we're, we're hanging out there, like, early summer of 2006 of 2006 you know i'm done with my sophomore year going into my junior year i'm hanging out with my my two friends brian's younger brother and our other friend uh i guess i should change the names of those other two uh we'll call them edward and uh and and joey which did not at all sound like their actual names. So we're hanging out. We're drinking Mickey's Big Mouths, and Brian has Xanax, and we're taking a tiny bit of Xanax because we're little pussy baby children who can't handle the full bar lifestyle but it's fucking us up pretty
Starting point is 00:37:46 good and we would always like i always like was fascinated by gang and crime shit i never claimed to have been a part of it but i was just i would read about it a lot and i of course loved the sopranos and i loved every stupid stupid crime thing I could read and we were talking about I think black gorilla families and I said something about Big Meech being in Supermax because I've always been fascinated with Supermax prison and Brian said how do you know about uh big meech i said i don't know and he goes oh you know a lot and it's just you know any any time that like a fucking like know-it-all shitty little virgin is like it's a challenging statement like that you just short circuit and i was like i don't know and and I, like, wanted
Starting point is 00:38:46 to go outside to smoke, because that was just what I would do, I was, like, confronted with something at the time, and he goes, Brian goes, well, do you guys want to ride on some people? You know, even being a huge pussy at the time, I couldn't say no because it was like I was so bored by my life and I wanted some experience. And I thought, well, if I want to be like Tony Soprano, I guess this is how I do it. I ride on somebody. And I trust Brian and whoever he wants to ride on. I bet they deserve it. You know, great judge of character, like always. And he goes, my neighbors think that I stole their grill.
Starting point is 00:39:42 And that's bullshit. They just think that because I have priors. I didn't steal their grill and that's bullshit they just think that because i'm a priors i didn't steal their grill let's fuck with them and i had no idea what that meant but i figured because he was in charge this would be fine and so we all we me and edward not the little brother little brother stays in he's like talking to his girlfriend on the cell phone he stays in we go with we go with Brian and
Starting point is 00:40:12 we get into his car and I was terrified that he meant like to wave a gun around or like to fuck some people up or whatever but what he actually meant by right on them was to steal their potted plants and their mail and you know it was like about I'd say like around midnight in Wrigleyville Lincoln Park ish
Starting point is 00:40:37 area and you know their lights are out they're asleep they have to go to bed and go to their jobs at the law firm the next day. So we successfully steal so many pot of points, we just fill up layers and layers in the back section of his SUV. but we get i remember one of the things we got was like samples of something for a doctor's office i get one one of them was a doctor and uh we i remember uh brian being like oh man we could really flip this shit and me pretending like i knew what i was talking about was like yeah i bet there's some crooked doctors we could call too like i knew anyone who wasn't also like a 16 year old dumbass and uh we're very i'm very happy i've completed this crime it's a another thing that separates me from other uh of my socioeconomic strata that I think makes me cooler than them. And we pull back into his garage, and then the very distinctive brights of a cop car just fucking illuminate the entire vehicle. car just fucking illuminate the entire vehicle and you know the way that they illuminate you when they're coming up like 20 feet behind you where you're almost blinded by the contrast of
Starting point is 00:42:14 the shadows the backseat versus the parts of the car that are illuminated me and edward we take like some of the mail and we just fucking book it inside we fucking book it and we're in his apartment we're fucking panicking because we had run into cops before but when you run into cops and one of you is white as i was uh and am but continue to be white uh and you you just have the things that 16 year olds usually have which which is like a few fucking joints, maybe like a quarter ounce at the very most. If you know, if what, if somebody like person is enough to, uh, for the racism of the Chicago cops who have, uh, have something in the back of their minds that they're supposed to protect white children that they usually won't arrest all of you, or they, they're not going to
Starting point is 00:43:19 arrest any of you because they're not going to just arrest two of you, and so all the runners of cops, it was just, like, they were fucking awful shitty assholes they said horrible shit to my friends but we always got away and it was like you lose weed but you're like okay we had never had something where there was an actual like crime crime committed right and so a lot you know it follows that we're absolutely panicking. It feels like there's no air in this apartment. We're trying to come up with excuses. Like what?
Starting point is 00:43:52 Like we would be our own defense attorneys. Like we were going to say, oh, we were just in the car with him and he happened to steal all these potted plants and mail. Oh, we didn't know what was going on oh we thought his neighbors had hired him to look after all this i was we were doing this for like 20 minutes i was searching through my phone like trying to see if i had my uncle's number because i guess he i guess i thought that he, he would have, like, a criminal lawyer that worked at his firm, just fucking panicking, just that spiral, the panic spiral, I'm thinking about, oh no, I'm gonna go to prison, and then I'll have to get my GED, and then I'm gonna have to,
Starting point is 00:44:37 I'm gonna have to get really good at day trading, because I'm not gonna get hired anywhere, gonna get hired anywhere because I'll have the potted plant caper on my record and just fucking hyperventilating and we hear this fucking loud triple knock at the door and we look at each other and Edward mans up before me and says, I'll answer it. And I stop pacing and I sit down. Because in my very overdramatic mind, I think this will be the last time I get to sit down on a nice couch for a while. Like what? I'm going to USB Marion. And it's Brian. It's Brian. Brian is is there he's smiling and what had actually happened was yeah the cops questioned him about why he had all these fucking potted plants and bullshit in his
Starting point is 00:45:35 car and he you know he was one of those guys who had that like very ricky from trailer park boys talent of like coming up with some fucking idiotic bullshit that just hit all the right checkpoints in a cop's dumb brain and he got away with it but uh that wasn't the end Brian was like yeah no it's easy to get away with stuff uh let's go back out and after after this 20-minute panic spiral it felt like an eternity I I guess that impulse to need to feel cool or seem cool to other people is just so strong when you're that age or at least it was for us that we get back into the fucking car with them and i guess we're done with potted
Starting point is 00:46:27 plants and letters for tonight because he sees like he pulls up to like one of the awful shitty bar for shitheads in in wrigleyville and there are a bunch of people sitting outside i guess it was like closing time they were doing the thing that all drunks in the north side of Chicago, it must be like a north side Irish tradition, that you just sit down at the sidewalk, looking glumly at the shoes while you complain to somebody else about how hard it is to work at the marketing firm. And he pulls up, like, we're about half a block away from him, you know, keeps his headlights off,
Starting point is 00:47:10 and he goes, Edward, I see a girl with a big purse down there. You can run fast, right? Edward was a soccer player in school. He was, like, a really good soccer player. And, you know thank God I was a shitty runner because he didn't pick me but you know Edward having the same impulse that I did is like okay yeah sure I'll rob somebody
Starting point is 00:47:39 I'm gonna take this one's first run off and we'll loop around the block and be able to pick me back up. And so he gets out. And in the back of my mind, I'm obviously thinking, like, holy shit, are we tempting fate? Like, we got away with one thing, but this is, like, oh, like, fuck. They're gonna, like, this is Chicago PD. If they catch my friend, like, taking a white woman's purse, there's high likelihood he's, chicago pd if they catch my friend like taking a white woman's purse there's high likelihood he's like going to jail or they're gonna fucking kill him but also a 16 year old pussy who gets to do crimes with his friend and not really do them just sit in the front seat like a fucking pussy and so we we watch him stroll along we
Starting point is 00:48:27 watch him stroll along the half block he ends his pockets like looking trying to look non-conspicuous and brian goes he's not gonna do it and i go yeah he's a pussy because yeah like you're just you're waiting for the opposite you know you think at that age, like, if someone else is a bitch, you're not. If you get that opportunity of saying that about someone else, that's going to prove that you're not somehow. And thankfully, he doesn't do it. He just keeps walking along. And we're like, ah, we fucking knew it, bitch.
Starting point is 00:49:02 And he walks back around the block gets back in the car and he goes oh yeah i just couldn't see the you know they they were looking when i was looking to take it there just wasn't the opportunity and we're like oh yeah of course i'm going yeah of course like i know anything about doing any type of crime but just for this entire, like, couple hour thing, my heart was in my throat about the possibility of doing a crime or, like, the consequences of it. For me now, I recognize it would have been negligible, and you can still work at a podcast anyway if you're convicted of the great potted plant heist of 2006. if you're convicted of the great pot and plant heist of 2006. But at the time,
Starting point is 00:49:47 it was a psychological thriller, I would call it. But the moral of the story, I guess there isn't too much of a moral, it's just that children are fucking idiots and cowards and bad friends to each other.
Starting point is 00:50:04 But am I glad I had the experience? Yes, because I can tell it on podcasts. All right. Thank you to the Trillbillies family for having my story. It was, I said one time there was a woman, she went out in the garden and she dug this big old toe up, this boy did. He come back in and he asked his mommy he said mommy will you pick this for me so she picked it for him and she went to bed that night he did somebody come says what you got them big eyes for
Starting point is 00:50:59 see you is we're at the big nose for her to smell you with. And I'm gonna eat you. Well he went down to this little girl. This little girl, they said the same thing to her. So went down to her, his mommy and his daddy. So he went back to bed. And the body says, I want my big toe. I want my big toe. That little boy got scared. He said, well, you got them big eyes first. Said, the see you with.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Said, well, you got the big nose first. Smell you with. Said, well, you got the big mouth first.. We got the big mouth for to eat it with. Halloween Town 2012 Where was Coach and Goblin and a ton of fucking witches? Halloween Town 2012 Where was Coach and Goblin and a ton of fucking witches? There's a werewolf hailing at the moon There's a mummy inside his tomb
Starting point is 00:52:24 There's a vampire screaming for blood We're all weird down here We don't give a fuck Halloween Town 2012 Werewolves, goblins, and a ton of fucking witches Halloween Town 2012 We're all weird down here In hell down here in hell Halloween Town
Starting point is 00:52:55 2012 where it's got a goblin and a ton of fucking witches Halloween Town 2012 where it's got a gob novel and a ton of fucking witches There's a werewolf howling at the moon There's a mummy inside a suit
Starting point is 00:53:11 Dracula is screaming for blood We're all weird down here, we don't give a fuck We don't give a fuck on Halloween Town Halloween Town, Halloween Town Halloween Town, Halloween Town Halloween Town, we don't give a fuck. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Halloween Town There's a goon ten the garden that'll kill you There's a man in the woods, he's scared Oh, Halloween town, don't come around
Starting point is 00:54:13 Oh, my God Gonna kill you tonight in Halloween town Gonna kill you tonight in Halloween town Come and get a ride around the week now

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