WAR MODE - Justice (Nick Bryant)

Episode Date: July 24, 2023

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Epstein Justice.com, Epstein Justice.com, Epstein Justice.com, Epstein Justice. I'm back in the next time. Thanks, thanks for having us again. We're flabbergasted that someone asked to come back on. Well, I like war mode. You two guys have ingratiated yourself into my life and I appreciate what you're doing. All right, sweet. So what do you want to get into first? Um, I'm pretty open. I've, we were talking about Johnny gosh earlier and I came up with the biggest break in the Johnny gosh case in the last, I think 20 or 30 years. Um, it's interesting.

Paul Benasi was one of the kids that was trafficked in the Franklin Network and... He's a guy that had the multiple personalities. Yeah, yeah, right. And then there was another kid named Jimmy Gibson and he was also trafficked and I've talked to Jim a little bit and America's most wanted, Paul and Jimmy said that Johnny Gash was held in a house talked to Jim a little bit. And America's Most Wanted, Paul and Jimmy said that Johnny Gash was held in a house in Colorado that was near an elephant-shaped rock and also had a chamber underneath

where the kids would be kept. And Paul Benassi and Jimmy Gibson led the producers of America's most wanted to that house that was in fact by an elephant-shaped rock and, in fact had a, uh, a uh, uh, to the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the their their their their their their the the their the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the tod.g.gu, go go go go go go go go goch.j.Jii.J.J.J.J. Joom. today go go go go go hi. today go go go go hoom. today go go go goch. today go go goch. today,'s Most Wanted to that house that was in fact by an elephant-shaped rock and in fact had a chamber underneath that. And there's video of this. Yeah where the kids were kept and the documentary. And the documentary I watched, see like they described it in detail like the house, the underneath and there's like markings on the Joyce and stuff wasn't there? Yeah and actually I co-produced that that documentary and yeah and so America's Most Wanted said that the house was owned by a prison guard and that they couldn't find the prison guard

and then that was it they that was that was their final episode so I found the prison guard and um... turns out no it's that was that was the prison guard. And, um, I- Turns out no, it's, he's around. I found the prison guard. And actually, he's alive, he's living in New Mexico. Now here's what's interesting about this. This guy, he's like 80 something now.

He, the first time he got busted molesting kids in 1963. And he molested three kids in 1963. Was this while he was a prison guard? No, no, no, no? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No? No, thi- thi- thiii- thiiii- thiiiiiiiii-s- thiiiii-a- thiii- got busted molesting kids is in 1963. And he molested three kids in 1963. Was this while he was a prison guard or before his career started? This was a long ago. He was, it was just like a young man. And nothing happened. And then I talked to his wife and his wife said that he molested their kid. And nothing ever happened. he molested their oldest kid and that he molested her brother and nothing

ever happened and then he ended up as a prison guard in Colorado at that house now you cannot be a prison guard if you've got felonies right and and actually his record in New Mexico was completely clean his criminal record of any type of child abuse so he was in Colorado, and then he fled Colorado. He was a fugitive from justice. And we don't know why, because his criminal record in Colorado is clean, too. So he fled Colorado and went back to New Mexico.

And here's a guy with a long track record of molesting kids and him being busted for it, going back to 1963. And then what's really weird is him fleeing Colorado as a fugitive of justice, fugitive from justice. and there's no record of him at all in Colorado engaged in any type of malfeasance. So... That's kind of impossible, right? Yeah, I mean he should be, he should be in prison. I mean it should at least be on his record. And I went to a woman that I know, she's a psychologist, she runs an anti-trafficking organization

on the West Coast. And it was the FBI that covered up Franklin and Johnny Gosch. The reason why Johnny Gosh had to be covered up is because he was abducted by people that were integral to the Franklin trafficking network. And so because the FBI was quashing any evidence of the Franklin Network, they had to quash all the evidence of Johnny Gosh.

And the FBI directed the West Des Moines police. the West Des Moines police. Johnny gosh was a paper boy that was abducted in 1982 in West Des Moines. And the West Des Moines police just completely dropped the ball after the FBI said that their witnesses weren't that the witness in this case Paul Benazi was incredible. How much time went by between him getting abducted in the Paul binasi? Paul coming forward yeah about 10 years okay 15 yeah 12 or 13? No I don't think thi thi. I don't think more than 12? I don't thi thi. I don't th. I th. I th. I th. I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the thi the the the the the the the the their I their I their I their I their I their I said their I said their I said their I said their I said their I said their I said their I their I their I their I their I their I their I their I their I their I their I their I the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi. I thi. I thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi th. I th. I th. I th. I th. About 10 years. Okay.

Fifty, yeah, 12 or 13. I don't think more than 12 or 13. So this really could have been, I mean, if the FBI wasn't so corrupt in this situation, it really could have been broken open. And Charles Crouch, here's a guy that has molested, God knows how many kids, and it's not on his record at all, and he's living, trankly in near Carlsbad, New Mexico. By the giant cave system.

And which demonstrates to me that he has been protected. Yeah. For some reason, he has been protected. I don't know how, I don't know why, but he's been protected. There has to be, he has to be part of a network, or if you had to speculate. Well, yeah, I mean if, as I said, Johnny Gosh was abducted by people that were affiliated with the Franklin network, Paul Benasi, and then it was a guy named Emilio, who, um, I've been able to find out was part of the Franklin Network. So they you know they were part of that and the Franklin Network was a huge network so and they brought the kids Johnny Gosh being one Paul Benasi being another and

Jimmy gives him being another to this house in Colorado that this guy owned. And he must have been part of that network. I mean why else? It literally sounds like an underground railroad type thing for trafficking the way they were keeping them like cattle underneath the house and just like sleeping bags and like the conditions were insane. Yeah I mean underground railroad in the in the worst way. At least in the underground railroad, you know, you there's salvation at the end. But but here there's no freedom. So this guy, Charles Crouch, is gotten away with God knows molesting how many kids. The first time he was indicted was in 1963,

and it's not even on his record. So obviously someone's cleaned up after him. And he fled Colorado as a fugitive from justice. So what does that mean? He, there were warrants out for his arrest. But with no charge? And that's the thing. We know that there were warrants out for his arrest, but

we don't know the charge. It's bizarre. I mean, look, when you get into this realm of Franklin and Epstein... And when you get into these dudes, he's just a prison guard. This isn't like a high paying job. No. You know what I mean? Like this? This is really weird. This is like a this is really weird. This is like a this is a this is a this is a this is a this is a this is a this is a this is a really this is a really really really this is a really this is a really this is a really this is a really this is a really this is a really really this is a really this is a really weird. This is a really really really really weird. This is a really weird, this is really weird, this is a really this is really this is really this is really this is really this is really this is really this is really this is really this is really this is really really this is a really really this is a really really this is really really really really really this is really really really really this is really really really really this is really really this is really really this is a really really this is a really this is a really this is a really this is a really this is a really, this is a really, this is a really, this is a really, this is a really, this is like a lower operator of a network. It isn't a dude with a private island. Well yeah, definitely. You usually just hear about like the real, you know, the Epstein types. But he played an integral role in I believe trafficking these kids and I don't know and a lot of times these guys will have covers which like for Lawrence E. King his cover was manager of the Franklin Quarret Union. For Craig Spence his cover was a lobbyist. For Jeffrey Epstein his cover was a hedge fund manager for the ultra

wealthy. But yes I mean this guy was a prison guard which is different than than the prior three but I think that he was a prison guard, which is different than the prior three. But I think that he was making a lot of money. That house is very nice, and I think it would be very difficult for a prison guard. To own a house like that. And America's Most Wanted, really nailed it when they went underneath the, I mean, when Paul got out of the truck, with the America's Most Wanted Prisoners, he just broke on crime. Yeah, right.

And that's, we're around with that. It could be easily broken open. As I said, I talked to a psychologist and she directed me to a guy who had been a police chief in a Southern California city and he had run an anti-trafficking task force in Southern California. And I showed him everything that I had, all the evidence, all the evidence that you guys have seen. And he was really young ho on this. And we were exchanging emails and he was trying to find the right people in New Mexico

to go after this guy because the dude's still alive and he's living in New Mexico. And then all of a sudden he stopped returning my calls and he stopped returning my emails. And I have no idea what happened because to this day he won't return a call. Or any of it. New Mexico seems like a weird place just because Epstein and all, didn't Epstein have a ranch in New Mexico as well? Epstein had a ranch in New Mexico

and I interviewed Juliet Bryant, who was one of the Epstein victims. And she said that at a certain point she was at the ranch and then she went unconscious and then when she came to she was on a table and there was a doctor and she felt that the doctor was taking her all of them. Well we were just talking about this yesterday we were talking about Peter Nygaard and I don't know if you've ever seen that clip where Peter Nygaard's talking to those black chicks and he's like, oh you guys are so or his friend Yeah, Steve Powers is like you guys are great like we'll buy your eggs

And like those guys are they're kind of like an Epstein type But another thing me and Bill were talking about was everyone to tell. And with all the talk of the sound of freedom stuff stuff. It's like like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. It's like. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the the the the. the the the the the the. the thi. the thi. the. the the. the th. th. th's more than one island that this kind of stuff goes on. But it was, when Epstein first came out, it was Florida. And then it was, a couple years later, it was like this island. And then no one talks about the ranch. Well with the ranch, I mean, a sheep was cloned in 1998 named Dolly. And actually it was a genetic engineering news had a big... I remember Dolly. Yeah Genetic Engineering News had a big article on it and I used to write for genetic engineering news. It's kind of interesting so and it's not that difficult to

clone a sheep and it's not that difficult to clone a human being. Were you aware of Epstein back at the Edge thing, like when you were writing for the science stuff, did you know about all those guys? I um... Because I watched a really interesting documentary on Ted Kaczynski, and it started out talking about John Bronkman, right? That's his name, and they were talking about one of the guys that the

Unabomber got was one of the edge guys that was connected to Epstein somehow. I can't remember what it was. Well Ted Kaczynski, this is kind of intre. He was part of the MK-Altra program. Now we know that there was LSD involved, but the thing about it is, Dick Helms, the director of the CIA, he said that all MK Ultra documentation needed to be destroyed. And all of it was destroyed. Some of it survived because of bureaucratic ineptitude. And we don't know. We just don't know what else they did to these guys. There was a psychiatrist named Loretta Bender at Belvue, which is, I don't, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the director, the, the, the director, the director, the director, the director, the director, the director, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the director, the director, the director, the director, the director, the director, the director, the director, I, the director, I, the director, the director, the director, the director, the director, the director, the director, the director, the director, the director, the director, the director, the director, the director, the, the, know what else they did to these guys. There was a

psychiatrist named Loretta Bender in Bellevue which is I don't know six miles away from where we're sitting and she was giving LSD to six-year-old kids for protractive periods of time. So we just don't know what happened to Ted Kaczynski in the MK Ultra program. And Whitey Bulger was also in MK Ultra. And we just don't know what actually, we know that they were given LSD, but God knows what else they were given. And with Kaczynski, and this is kind of interesting, I went to the Supermax,

Federal Prison, and I went to the Superman, he was at the Supermax federal prison, and I went to the Supermax to interview the former boss of Lucchese crime family, Anthony Gaspipe Paso. They're all there. Everyone's there. It's crazy. Well, the 400 guys that the government has the most antipathy for are in this prison. And the thing about this prison is you're in solitary solitary, the the tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, tha, thozy, thozy, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thiase, thiase, thiase, thiase, thiase, thiase, thiase, thiase, thiase, thiase, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, is thi, thi, thi, thi, the thi, the thi, thi, thi, thi, about this prison is you're in solitary. It's like Lex Luzer. Yeah. Yeah.

You're in solitary 24-7. OK, so when you get at yard time, you're still in a six by five plexiglass cube. So there's no human contact. And Gannis Pipe, the former Luke Casey boss, said that he had yard time at the same time as the former Lucchese boss said that he had yard time at the same time as the Unabomber and that the Unabomber was running laps. Yeah, the back I kind of got a kick out of that. This thing that I watched showed that that Brockman dude was a publisher for like scientists and kind of like

edge engineering type science guys you were talking about. But like back then in the 90s when they were doing Dolly and stuff, did anyone know about Epstein? I don't, okay. Like was he around doing science stuff like this cloning type stuff? You know, he, there was a bunch of scientists in his black book and but we don't It's really difficult to know like is this what Bill Gates is getting in trouble for? Okay, so Bill Gates according to our mainstream media Bill Gates met Ebstein in 2011 or 2013 and that's bullshit because

There was an evening standard article out of the UK that was published in 2001 that talked about Ebstine and Gates doing business in the 1990s. Okay, yeah, right. So these are these cover stories of the, and all you've got to do, I mean it's not too hard, all you need is LexisNexis and you can get that article. What's Lexis nexus? It's a database for articles and newspapers and magazines, things like that. So all you need is LexisNexis and every major magazine has Lexus Nexis.

So you could have, people that are writing about Gates and Epstein, they could have easily have found that article, but no one's mentioned that article. And a couple other people mentioned that article. But they've all skated. But it it it it it it. They, they, they, they, they, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it would th, it would th, it would thed, it would thed, it would thi, it, it would thed, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like th. So, like th. So, like th. So, th. So, th. So, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, it would thi, it would thi, it would thi, it would thi, it would thi, it would thi, it's that, it's that, that, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, thi. So, like, like, like, like, thi, thi. So, th article. I mean I mentioned that article and a couple other people mention that article but they've all skated but it would be really easy to clone a human being. All you got to do is take the the DNA out of the egg and then you put the DNA that you want cloned into the egg and then you give it an electric charge. Billy was just showing Billy was just talking about Nygard talking about doing this. Yeah. And then it's, and then it starts to mitosis process. And the thing is, it would cost about 1.5 million dollars to clone a human being. But did you, did you know what Nygaard was doing with the aborted fetuses? Um, I did not, no. He was bought, he was impregnated women with his own semen.

They would get pregnant. He would pay them to get an abortion and then he would take that so he could skip that process and then use that to inject back into himself as like some sort of like, stem cell thing. So he was, he was. I mean, the thii. He was, he got, he was, he got, he's going off of a YouTube, no, he's in jail right now for like human trafficking, because he had, well he should be in prison for a very long, yeah, he's in there for a while, but that's what he was like bragging about like, oh, we'll take the period blood, like everything.

Well that Epstein video we showed you, they get? Clooney. Clooney. Yeah. In situations like this, you've got to be careful because guilt by association should be tricky. We're not going to play that game. I mean, Phil Collins is in the black book allegedly. Anybody that you name, I mean, at this point, I approach everything agnosticly. I don't think that, you know, people come up to me and tell me crazy-ass stuff.

And I don't, I don't believe in it. I don't not believe in it. I just, if I have an opportunity to investigate it, then I'll be able to form my own opinion of it. And I studied philosophy in college, and that's what that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's own opinion of it. And I studied philosophy in college and that's what ostensibly we're taught is to approach everything agnosticly. But with the with Ebstine, I started digging into Ebstein in like 2011 and at that point Ebstein was just a lone pedophile in in Florida. And then I got his black book in 2012 and there's like 150 victims in his black book and I started to call them and they were talking

about being flown around and flown to his island and at that point I knew that EPS he was running a network because I'd had so much experience with Franklin. At any point in time when you were starting to make those calls, did you get any weird shit happen to do like you have with the Franklin scandal with like dudes like come in or following you? No, I, nothing really strange happened to me at that point. That's nuts. And at that point, I was, I put all this money into the Franklin scandal. And I, I, you were a brokie. I was really broke.

And there was a news service, like a scientific news service that I wrote for, they went under, and the mainstream media really didn't want to deal with Nick Bryant. Because I could remember early on when I was pitching the Franklin Scandal to editors. And, and it's a horrific story. It's about, I think it's a great read. It's a great read, but it's a horrific story. I'm just saying I don't understand why they wouldn't push it. But here's the thing. A story like that is horrific and plus I'm saying that the government is covering up child trafficking, which means the government is eating a their their their their thian, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I thi, I don't thin, I don't thi, I don't thi, I don't thin, I thi, I don't thi, and thi, and it's a thi, and it's a thi, and it's thi, and it's thi, and it's thi, and it's thi, and it's thi, and it's thi, and it's thi, and it's thi, and it's thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, and thi, thi, thi, thi. And it's a thi. It's a thii. It's a thiiiiiiiiiiiiii. And it's a horrific is thi. And it's a horrific is a thi, and plus I'm saying that the government is covering up child trafficking which means the government is any abetting child trafficking and that isn't a message that people wanted to hear.

No. Why though? I'm so confused about this. Because people, you'd have to rewire your brain. their brain. I just had to sit through all the president's men and it's the movie blows and that's about wiretaps. Yeah. It's so boring. They could have a real, yeah, it makes no sense why they don't get into this at all. I can get mad to you for even talking about it. Well the thing about it is I'd go to these editors and I'd pitch it and I would

look into their eyes and I'd see the wheels going around and they would say they the their their their their their their their. the wheels going around. And they would say to themselves, well, this is really a horrific story. I've got to help Nick Bryant. Or I can just write Nick Bryant off as crazy, and I can have a nice meal with my family tonight. And there won't be any hassles. You think it's just that. And people, there are, people are terrified of two things.

They're, or at least very, very fearful. They're afraid of losing what they have or not getting what they want. And Nick Bryant represented losing what you have or not getting what you want. And that's really why I, no one in the mainstream media would I think touch the Franklin store. Okay. And the Epstein, like with the Epstein, I came back with the black book. I mean I had, I was pitching the black book to magazines in 2012. It should have been like a fucking parade when you got this. We found out about it in what like 2018 maybe? We got

really excited. There's got him Epstein, you'll never believe. So and no one would touch the black book. Finally Gawker called me and I knew the editor John Cook a little bit and he said we'll do it. And it's interesting because Gawker is known as like the mean kids on the media black, but they were the only outlet to have the moral fortitude or intestinal fortitude to publish the black book. Whereas the New York Times and Vanity Fair and these other magazines that are ostensibly draped in esteem. The more I look into it, I don't think they ever magazines that are ostensibly draped in esteem.

The more I look into it, I don't think they ever did the news. No. Wouldn't toucest. So, and there's been tons of ink that have been spilt on the black book. Tons of ink. There's been so many articles written about the black book. And there's only been two media outlets that have credited me with bringing the black book the black book the black the black the black the black the black the black the black the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the black book and there's only been two media outlets that have credited me with bringing the black book into public consciousness.

People don't believe it. If I say any about Nick Bryan, they'll just be like, I don't know. Like I've had people look at the book, the actual Franklin's scandal book and be like, I don't know, I'll read it, I'll see if I believe it. It's like, cares if you believe it. Yeah, it happened It's people like I said cognitive dissonance With with the Franklin scandal and also with Epstein our government is As I said earlier if the government is covering up child trafficking it's aiding and abetting child trafficking and that's just a message that people don't want to hear that our government, but it's right there in in their face. And the government has covered it up and the media is covering it up. It makes you feel

like you can't do anything about it. Yeah. Well actually there's one thing that we can do about it and I'm formed actually we have formed Ebstein Justice.com. And what we're doing is we launched it last week. And we initially had a petition that was backed by six Ebstein survivors and 52 anti-trafficking anti-exploitation organizations, and it had 36,600 signatures. Okay, we did that and we couldn't dent the machine. And then during Maxwell's

trial we put on a demonstration that was backed by 64 anti-trafficking organizations and that didn't dent the machine. But at this point we need to, we really need to dent the machine because what we're demanding with the machine. But at this point, we need to we really need to dent the machine because what we're demanding with the Epstein Justice is that there's a truth and reconciliation committee and if the American people, if our will, if we have enough of us that go for this, this can happen. Because I really do believe that if you start drilling into Ebstein, you're going to come across the cesspool,

that is our government. I mean, and that's why the government has covered up Ebstein so extensively. And that's why the mainstream media has covered up ebsteen so extensively, is because they know, at least the government knows, if you drill into Ebstein deep enough, then you're going to run into the sewer. And that sewer enacts bills that cause wealth polarization amongst Americans.

I mean, the wealth polarization now is really unprecedented, and the trampling on our constitutional rights is unprecedented. And there's 435 representatives, federal representatives, and there's 100 senators. So in our U.S. Congress, we have 535 representatives, and not one of them has called for an investigation into Epstein. Now, I don't care if you're right or you're left. It's our government is not going to do anything about it. And as long as our government is going to protect child molesters, and here's an interesting

thing. Would anybody trust someone who is aiding and abetting child trafficking? Would anybody trust a group that is aiding and abetting child trafficking? Would anybody trust a group that is aiding and abetting child trafficking? So how can we trust our government that is aiding and abetting child trafficking? So with Epstein Justice, we're starting a social media campaign and then we're going to have peaceful nonpartisan demonstrations like we we did before and you can go to the website and put your name in and where you live and the letter that we've written will automatically go to your federal representatives. That's also. It's just like a no-brainer you just got to fill it out and then it'll be like they get an email they're gonna get

bombed with emails. That's what we want. I got you. Right. And we have to let the government know. Yeah if they're not show mo's they'll do it. Yeah. Yeah. We have to let the government know it's not okay that you guys you guys cover up child trafficking. I mean it's just not okay. you th., you know, I'm old and decrepit, but you guys are, you guys are young and you know, you'll probably breed prolifically and have multiple children at some point. And do you want your children growing up? That's what?

That's what? We talk about this stuff constantly, like four all that stuff, like, where are the parents and all this stuff when this is going on everyone just like whatever don't care. Well they go for kids that have a bad parent situation. They are predators. The thing about predators. The thing about predators is I mean when we're talking about Ebsteen or when we're talking about Lawrence King or we're talking about their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin about thin about thin about thi about thi about thi about thi thi they're they're thi about thi thate, the, thi. thi. thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi thi thi thi thi th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thate the. the the the thee theeeeeeeea. thea. theeea. theea. theeeeeeee th. I mean, these are great white sharks looking for children. I mean, they know exactly what they're doing. They know exactly how to manipulate. And Ebstein was actually buying kids in Eastern Europe.

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And nothing makes people stupid like sex, arrogance, and greed. And they have the tri-facta of that. And look at Bill Clinton. I mean, he vied since he was 18 years old to be the president of the United States and He he couldn't control himself. Yeah, right. He couldn't control his libido and and actually he had a long history of not being able to control his libido and that did not hurt him at all when he became president and And it must all be like that. It's like just sharks all meet each other when we were talking earlier in the week about this like, like? It, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th thi, the thi, thus, he the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. all meet each other. When we were talking earlier in the week about this, like it sucks that every single thing you hear about this

is like once people get to the point of power where no one is above them and they make the rules, the first thing to do is fuck everything that moves, usually kids. And they start earlier th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I. th. I. I. I. th. I. th. I. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. thii. thi. thi. thea. thea. thi. thi. thi. thi. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that's. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. I think they start earlier than that. And I'll give you guys a couple of examples. Dennis Hastert was the speaker of the house. Piece of shit, I hate him so much. From 1999 to 2006. And I believe that he was the longest reigning Republican speaker of the house ever.

And he was a guy that was really instrumental in getting us into that cooked up war against Iraq, which turned out to be all bullshit. Right. And he had a history going back at least 40 years of molesting kids, of molesting little boys. And actually the FBI, Sebille Edmonds was a FBI whistleblower. I know about this. Yeah, and she knew, the FBI knew that Haster, what what Haster was up to. She talks about it in a deposition. And she's not around anymore, right? No, well, she's not certainly not with the FBI anymore. She has her own little media conglomerate called, I think, Boiling Frogs. OK. But yeah, she knew. She knew, the, the FBI. the FBI. She, the, the FBI. She, the FBI. She, the, the the FBI. She knew, the the the the the the the FBI. She knew, the FBI. She knew, the FBI. She knew, the FBI. She knew, the FBI. She knew, the FBI. the FBI. She knew. What that. the FBI. the FBI. What the FBI. What that. What that. What that. What that. What that. What that. What that. What that. What that. What that. What that. What that. What? that. What. What? that. What? that. What? that. What? th. What? th. She was, th. She was, th. She was, th. She was, the th. She was, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the F. the the F. the F. the F. the F. the F. the F. the F. the F, I think, Boilane Frogs.

But yeah, she knew all about Hastert and the FBI knew all about Haster. But here's another one. And I think Haster is an example of someone's pedophilia actually helping their career. Right, right. Because we can count on Denny because if Denny doesn't do what we tell him to, then there's going to be some pictures released. I know about him because of the WikiLeaks. Yes.

Hasster's one of the WikiLeaks guys. And he's good friends of the Podesist too. Yeah, then actually, I've got Hastert's, unpublished cell phone number. And I've called him, but he hasn't returned my call. He's the FBI. And I, but we're not done with Dennis yet. So, uh, there's still some more play with Dennis at this point. Another guy is Larry Craig, a far right-wing dude from Idaho, and he was a family values guy.

He was in the US legislature for 25 years, I think over first as a representative and then as a senator. And this guy, I wrote a book called Confessions of a DC Madam. And it was about a guy named Henry Vincent who ran an escort service. and then as a senator. And this guy, I wrote a book called Confessions of a DC Madam. And it was about a guy named Henry Vinson who ran an escort service. And he was providing Craig with escorts. And then Kirby Dick made a documentary called Outrage. And there were gay prostitutes that weren't affiliated with Henry Vinson that were talking about Craig. And then Craig mean the dude's a US senator and he's sitting in

a bathroom stall at the Minneapolis airport. Oh is he the guy with the feet? Yeah that's really and any and he the dude's a US senator. Next level horn he's trying to pick somebody up in a you know in a in a bathroom stall. I think I used to be that horny. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the dude's the dude's the dude's the dude's the dude's the dude's the dude's the dude's the dude's the dude's the dude's the dude's the dude's the dude's the dude's the dude's the dude's the dude's the dude's the dude's the dude's the dude's the dude's the dude's the dude's the dude's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. thus. thus. the's the's the. the's the. the. the. the. the the is the is. He's trying to pick somebody up in a bathroom stall. I think I used to be that horny. Not anymore. 12 years old. I mean this guy's like 70 years old and he's that crazy. I always think about like those dudes are willing to do that in public. Lord knows what they're doing behind a closed door. Exactly. And I'm from Minneapolis., I've been to a bathroom at the Minneapolis airport and I was sitting on a stall and then some guy was slapping his foot. You know, in a next stall and I thought that the dude had some kind of neurological disorder. I really felt bad for him. The last thing going through my mind, taking

the shit is I'd love that sex right there. And then, and then the shit is, I'd love that sex, right? And then I found out about Craig, and I realized, wow, that dude was trying to pick me up or he was a cruise real quick? He was a cop that was trying to bust me. It was so it was kind of a strange moment to be edified. Yeah, so it helps them if they get, they're easily compromised, and they have that. But think about Craig, the guy's been in Washington DC for 25 years. How could he not be compromised? I mean if he's willing to pick kids up in a bathroom or willing to pick anybody up in a bathroom, I mean how hard would it be to be?

I mean, one of us could have a smartphone and follow him around for a couple of days and blackmail. When you're on the hunt for this kind of stuff for investigating and things, how, when do your spody senses go off when you're like, this is intelligence? Or someone's like, because when Epstein originally got arrested, a lead, Acosta was like, this guy might be intelligence, this is what I hear. Like, how do you suss that out? Well okay so with Ebstein he was being prosecuted in the Southern District of Florida and the US senator there was Alexander Acosta and Acosta was told to stand down because Ebstein was intelligence and and he stood down and the feds had a list of, I've got the list. The feds, the the the the the, the the the the the the the the intelligence. the intelligence. the intelligence. the intelligence. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. the they. they. they. they. they. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. was intelligence. And he stood down. And the feds had a list of, I've got the list. The feds had a list of 36 kids, minors,

that had been molested. So the feds had a list, and then they protected him. And because Epstein was intelligent. And Acosta said it's above my pay grade. You know what year it was? Um, I would say that this was about 2008. Okay, 2008. Because that, that VH1 thing I showed you was 07. They were doing that about Epstein and Wally.

Probably the investigation was happening. Well, the one word, the water gate book I was reading, the John McC McCord guy he got busted by his landlord that was 17-year-old girls and that's what they were doing that's what the some of the CIA guys were doing back in the 70s. Yeah that's James McCord and he was running a room from running a basement apartment from this older woman and she's not having it. Yeah, and she came well actually thethe guy that, her, she had some telephone problems and the guy said the telephone, the guy represented the telephone company came on and said that McCord's place was all wired up. And all bugged up, yeah, and then she came down to see what was going on and there was some young girl

on a bed crying and James McCord. So, and actually, Howard, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she had, her, she, she, she had, she had, she had, she had, she, she, she, she, her her, her her, her, her, her her, her her her, her her her her, her, her her, her her, her, her, her, her her, her, her, her, her, her her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, her, she, she, she, she, she, she, she had she had she had she had she had the the th. She had had th. She had had thed, she had had thed, she had thed, she had thed, she had thed, she had the the the the the the the the the the th. She down to see what was going on, and there was some young girl on a bed crying and James McCord. And actually Howard Hunt had visited him, James McCord there. So that's, I mean, I definitely believe that that was, because James McCord was a blackmail artist and he shows up in Watergate, but he... But that's intelligent, that's what I'm saying. They think Epstein was like that? Well, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, th, th, th, th, th, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, tha, thi, thi, thi, thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And, thi. And thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. And thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. tha. think it Epstein was like that well Okay, so here's the thing Alexander Acosta when he was getting vetted he was nominated to be the labor secretary for Trump and when he was getting vetted

It was asked why didn't you go after Epstein and he said well I was told that Epstein was intelligence and to back off and it was it was about my pay grade. Now what's interesting about that according to our Constitution, there's only two people that can tell a US attorney to back down. One is the president, one is the attorney general. So it, that for Epstein to be told to back down, I mean, that's from on high. And at that point... That's Obama or Bush. That would have been Bush.

Would have been, well, I mean, actually it's been four presidential administrations that have covered up, Epstein. But, oh, yeah, I guess. You know, there was, uh, Bush. But oh yeah I guess yeah you know there was Bush. He was party with Clinton so I mean there's that. Well there was Bush too I mean well actually Ebsen was going to the White House with girls. He was going to the White House yeah and but he got busted in 2006 George George Walker Bush Bush Bush Bush and then it went through Obama thu-tru Bush won, and then it went

through Obama, then it went through Trump, and now it's winning through Biden. So four presidential administrations have had an opportunity to indict all the perpetrators. Biden's not going to stop eating babies in lifetime. And none of them have done it. That's why it's important for us to, as Americans. I mean, do you guys want to grow up in this cesspool that,

a government that protects shopmasters? We try not to get depressed about it. It gets us upset now and it. But if you could do something about it? Yeah, but we're not smart enough, you know what I mean? We don't know what to do. But all it takes, so I'm not smart enough either. So, but all it takes is a lot of people. It's a large mass. Yeah. Horton, here's the who? Did you guys ever come across that book and I know what it is but I don't know the story. Okay, so it's about this elephant that there's this fleck of dust and the elephant is moving

towards it and on the fleck of dust lives a bunch of hooves. And then the hooves all scream at the same time and then the elephant hears it and doesn't step up. So what we've got to do is collect a lot of who's and once we collect a lot of who's Then we can make a change if Everybody in the United States knows that Epstein stanks everybody and people have to be shown that you know you can do something about this. I was during the first the Iraq war I was one of the

protesters at the United Nations and there were like the New York Times said that there were like 10 or 15,000 people there but actually there were between I think I'm estimating from being in various arenas I think that there were 70 to 80,000 people. Wow maybe even more but here's the thing about that. The media had convinced 80% percent of the the the the the the the the the the protest. the protest. the protest. the protest. the protest. I I the protest. I the protest. I the protest. I the protest. I the protest. I the protest. I the protest. I the protest. I was the protest. I was the protest. I was the protest. I was the protest. I was the protest. I was the protest. I was the protest. I was the protest. I was the protest. I was the protest. I was the protest. I was the protest. I was the protest. I was the protest. I was the protest. I the protest. I the protest. I the protest. I the protest. I the protest. I the protest. I the protest. I the protest. I the protest. I the protest. I the protest. I was the protest. I was the protest. I was the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the pro pro. I was. I was. I was. I was. I think that there were 70 to 80,000 people. Whoa. Maybe even more. But here's the thing about that. The media had convinced 80% of the American public that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. So there was only 20% of the American public that actually didn't believe in this war. There was a poll that 75% of people, I can't remember what demographic this was in the country, I think it was like somewhere in like the impoverished South, 75% of the people

on the street believe that Saddam Hussein did 9-11. Yeah, I mean there was that too and that was, I mean, the whole thing was bullshit. And, um, so if there can be a turnout that large for what 20% of the American public believe, I mean, think of the turnout. I mean, how could you be against... You can be pro-war, but you can't really be pro-Epestine. Yeah, I mean, you can't be pro-pedophile. Yeah, yeah. I mean, they're trying to be right now. I mean, unless you're a pedophile, or in the government that covers up pedophiles, you know, you're definitely not pro-pedophile. There are people that love the government, though, they don't like hearing this. Not at all. Like my mom's like that. She's like, I hit her with this stuff and she, and she, and she, and she, and she, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, like, like, that, like, that, like, like, like, that, that, like, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, like, it's like a lot like the sounds of freedom like getting released and then like it's like all these media companies didn't see the movie, they didn't watch anything. It's everything's like Q& on adjacent and like the backlash where some dude is trying to show like the ins and out of human trafficking and then it's just all negativity. It's like a weird thing to like shit on. It's like a weird thi thir th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the the weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird like a weird like a weird weird thin. It's like a weird like a weird like a weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird like a weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird weird like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like like a weird th like a weird th like th like th like th th th th th th th th th th th th th like things th th like a weird th like a weird th like a weird th like a weird th And as I told you guys before we sat down, I think I told you, there was an article in

the Atlantic magazine that said that there really wasn't any child trafficking. And then they go into it? I mean, they interviewed like Q and on lunatics. Yeah. I mean, and it's easy to make that. And then I wrote the person that wrote that article, I wrote her a nice email. And I said, I've written about this for 21 years.

And there's conferences about it. There's organizations that are, that have very sharp people. And there are psychiatrists, psychologists that have dealt with it. There's a lot of people that have dealt with child trafficking and it's it's and it's here and it's big and it's lucrative and I said if you want to read a book that I wrote go ahead I'll send you the book and she never got back to me. It kind of reminds me I don don't know if it's like, if it is right, if I'm right saying this or not, but it kind of reminds me of like when I was a kid, I was talking a bill about when I was a kid, they had talk shows that were way different than today's talk shows, like Donahue and stuff. And like they would have like, they would have like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, I. I. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, like this look silly, is what I'm saying.

Like if a kid said that they were molested, they'd be like, oh, that's just a made up memory that they had. Yeah. You know what I mean? The way that the media is locked down today, CIS corporations own 90% of the media that we take in. And there used to be a time the the the the the the their their their their their their their take in. And there used to be a time with the media where people with antithetical views to the government could be invited to the media.

I mean, Mark Lane, who. I know Mark Lane. Yeah, he excoriated the Warren Commission. And James Garrison, who the movie JFK is about, like Garrison was on Johnny Carson. And Lane was on a bunch of talk shows. So not one of those guys could be into the mainstream media today. Yeah, no. The mainstream media wouldn't let one of those guys in.

It is crazy, man. I'd like, but for like the Epstein stuff with Glenn Maxwell, is there anything else that came out about or is that chick just chilling in prison? Well she says she's getting a yoga teacher. The thing with her is, and this again is just utter corruption. She was indicted on one count of child trafficking. That's insane. When she, when she had trafficking. That's insane. When she had trafficked children for 25 years.

Yeah. So with her, and the New York Times had an article where it had six procures, which are essentially pimps, and named them, Maxwell was one, but then there were a number of Epstein-Henchwomen that were named. And the government didn't, I mean the New York Times is telling everybody, these are procurers, aka pimps for Jeffrey Epstein, and none of them got indicted except for Maxwell. And she got indicted on one count of child trafficking. And Sarah Kellynne should have been indicted, Leslie Groff should have been indicted on multiple counts of child trafficking. What do those women do? I've never heard of my life.

They were, they played an integral role in procuring young women for Jeffrey Upshine. Did you see the Virgin Islands thing? Which with the lady that was the wife of the president I think of the first lady of the Virgin Islands. She was working for Epstein and she was getting them visas. She was getting all the girls visas and JPMorgan has these emails that are from their email. Because they're getting sued. The Virgin Islands wants $190 million off of J. Yeah.

And in their emails, they have emails going back. I think her names like, something like that and she saying well would it you tell me what these girls need to learn because I'll put them through the university like they'll come out the way you want them type it was crazy to read I mean that sounds like the Virgin Islands and it's kind of ironic that they're serving but actually JPMorgan just settled 200 90 million dollars for Jeffrey Epstein's victims so because their lawyers argued that JPMorgan executives knew that Epstein was trafficking children and were doing business with him nonetheless. Yeah so JPMorgan's like putting all this stuff out that Jeffrey Epstein

paid for their kids the Virgin Islands family to go to Skidmore College. Like he paid for their tuition like so Epstein was like thick as thieves with the Virgin Islands. I don't know what they are to us. to to. Are their. Are their. Are. their. Are. they're. they're. they're. they're. their. they're supposed. their. their. they're supposed. their. their. their. their. their. they're. they're. they're. their. they're. they're. they're. they're. they're. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. Yeah. Yeah. Are. Are. Are. Are. Are. Are. Are. Are. Are. Are. Are. Are. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. thethick as thieves with the Virgin Islands. I don't know what they are to us. I mean, there's like there's supposed to be yeah a territory. Yeah, US protectorate. And that's just that's the Virgin Islands and I mean, New Mexico, Virginia Goufri named two governors of New Mexico. That in Arizona real weird to me right now, with the trafficking that's going on down there. Bruce King and Bill Richardson were both named by Virginia Goufrey as perpetrators. And Bill Richardson was Clinton's energy.

He was a big deal. I remember that guy's name. And he was at one point that to be, you know, potential presidential contender. And their names are circled by Alfredo Rodriguez in the black book. The Alfredo Rodriguez, Ebsing's house manager, stole Ebstein's black book and circled the names that he knew saw were in cahoots with Ebstein. So both those guys are circled. Virginia Goufrey has come out and said,

both those guys molested me. And Ebstein didn't even have to register as a sex offender in New Mexico. Now, do you think people just shrug it off? Like, say if you brought that to like Bill Clinton, when you just be like, to be like, oh yeah, yeah, and they don't think anything of it, even today. Like Clinton's still around, he just like does speeches and stuff. Yeah, I mean, but I think Clinton's popularity has waned as people have come out. I mean, there's a lot more about sleaze to Bill Clinton than, I mean,

Bill Clinton is a serial predator. I mean, he's sexually assaulted a lot of women. And he was kicked out of the Rhodes Scholar Program. And we don't really know why. But I mean, I've been told because it was of a sexual assault. I'm not 100% with that source. But anyway, here's the guy that's from a kind of a poor background and he's kicked out of the road scholars program and then he goes in tourers Russia and Eastern Europe and then he comes back and he has a scholarship

waiting for him at Georgetown Law School. So what do you speculate about that? There were a number of articles So what do you speculate about that? Um, there were a number of articles that came out some years ago that said that the CIA had recruited Clinton when he was at Oxford to spy on the anti-morm movement. Okay. So I think Clinton made a fosty impact very early on with the CIA. And then he just goes on. Yeah, one thing led to another. And then Iran Conchra and stuff. I ran Conchra was before Clinton. That was Reagan and Bush one.

Oh, OK. The thing I can't get over is the fact that Dennis Haster is like is there other dudes like Dennis Haster that are in politics that are convicted and still like politicians? Haster has never been convicted. Wow. He had been a wrestling coach and there was a thing. He had been a wrestling coach and there was a thing. Also too I heard Epstein wrote a letter to Larry Nasser and he'd never been convicted. I think that Jim Jordan dude was in one one one. they.. He was like a wrestling coach and there was a thing. Also too I heard Epstein wrote a letter to Larry Nassar, but I don't know how true that is. Um, I've heard that too and I don't know how true that is. Yeah. But here's a thing, like Larry Nassar's victims have sued the FBI and they're going to get millions of dollars. Why can't

Ebstine victims sue the FBI? I mean the FBI is dirty in this all the way. The FBI was that we know of was informed about Ebstein in 1996 when Maria Farmer went to them and no one in the FBI as far as we can see has done anything. I don't know if it's Maria Farmer or sister, but one of them ended up at Les Wexner's place in Ohio. And they, something like that. That was Maria Farmer. Yeah, that's another place that's not technically Epstein's place. Yeah. But they ended up there. I think she was like kind kind of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of of th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. their the their their their their their their their their th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the the the the the the the the the the their.'s place. Yeah. But they ended up there. I think she was like kind of somewhat imprisoned there.

Well, you know, it's kind of interesting. It's like, Epstein was a blackmail artist. And in the Franklin scandal, Craig Spence was a blackmail artist. Craig Spence had a mansion in Washington, D.C. And all the house, and all the rooms were audio wired for audiovisual blackmail, all of them. Ebstein exact same thing. Both Maria Farmer and Virginia Gufrey have said that there was a secret room in

Ebstein's home and if you went in there there would be men as in plural looking at all the monitors and there would be cameras on every bedroom and every bathroom. It's crazy to like do blackmail a couple of times, but then when you get to be like, you're an artist. You're a blackmail artist, like you're the top of it. But here's the thing about blackmail artists, is they cannot get a lot of press

and still be affectedibly killed himself. What's with the popular press they get? Like I saw some stuff with Galen and Epstein when they were young, they were in like socialite papers. Like what's with that? Like do they opt in for that? Um, I don't know exactly when they met. I've been told that that that that they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were they were together together together together together. together. together. together. together. told. told. told. told. their. told. to. to. too. told. told. told. told. told. told. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. their. together. together. together. together. together. together. together. together. together. together. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. their. their. their Um, I don't know exactly when they met. I've been told that they were...

I'm not saying together, but like just even separate. Like they were young socialites, you know. They had very different backgrounds. Glain Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell owned a huge publishing empire. And he took the pensions of all those people. Yeah, he was bad. And he was a spy for the the the the the UK the UK the UK the UK the UK the UK the UK the UK the UK the UK the UK the UK the UK the UK the pensions of all those people and yeah he was bad and he was a spy for the UK Israel and God knows who else. Did you see the Tetris movie? No they he's in the Tetris movie he tried to buy Tetris and he fucked it

all up. Oh really? So Maxwell and then so Glain Maxwell grew up in this very rich and ostentatious environment where she knew all the aristocrats. And Jeffrey Epstein grew up as kind of a blue collar kid in Coney Island. So they had very different backgrounds. It's hard to say. I had this Israeli spy on my show, Erie Ben Menashi. And he said that Robert Maxwell hooked them up. I've had someone else on my show, actually it's coming out this Friday,

who said that they were already a team in the 80s as far as like trafficking. So it's one of those things where we really don't know when exactly they met and when exactly they started. The cover story is that. The more I look into it, it freaks me out because I think Epstein and Wexner had a plane company and that was in Iran Contra? Well, Southern Air Transport was a CIA proprietary. Right, and so to their American spies, or their intelligence, somehow? Well, here's the thing.

People have said that Epstein was working for Israeli intelligence, but there's no way that Israeli intelligence is going to let Ebstein blackmail politicians in the United States without getting a cut. Right, right. That's just not going to happen. I mean, Israel is so dependent upon us for armaments that it's not, it's not going to let the Masad compromise our politicians. I mean our intelligence is certainly going to compromise our politicians but it's it's not going to let the Israelis unilaterally compromise our politicians and with Ebstein and Maxwell it's difficult to know when exactly they got together.

The cover story is that Maxwell, her dad died and it came out that her dad was a fraud and that she moved to New York to get away from it all and she didn't have much money. And then she met Jeffrey Ebstine and Jeffrey Ebstine had the money and she had the contacts and then it was like nitro and glycerin So I don't know it's really difficult. It's a real power couple, but but it's difficult to know exactly who put them together And I would say that they started trafficking in you know at least the early 90s and possibly the 80s. It sounds like Epstein's almost like a successful version of Paul Benasy. Like Paul Benazi it's a multiple personality. It seemed like Epsom like... No, Paul Benazi is a victim.

No, I know he's a victim. It seems like I don't understand Epstein some dude from Coney Island out of nowhere he's like a teacher and then he's a hedge fund manager. Well the thing about it is. Like his like where did his come up come up? Have you blackmail a powerful person? I think you come up straight out the gate. Well here's the thing with that. Um because Lawrence King of the Franklin Scanner was from a blue collar family, and Craig Spence was also from a blue collar family, and Jeffrey Epstein was from a blue collar family, because the reason why intelligence gets these guys is because they know that they're probably going to have to off them, or that there's a substantial chance that they have to off them. Now, if they just, if they just come from like some small blue collar family, then, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you know, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. And, th. And, th. And, th. And, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. And, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, th. thin, you know, you know, th. th. thin, th. th. th. the, the, th. th. th. to off them. Now, if they just come from like some small blue collar family, then, you know, it's easy to off them.

No one's gonna be asking questions. So it's actually very intelligent that these type of guys come from lower class families. And I've been told, you know, I've been, a lot of people reach out to me because of Epstein and all the writing of Don and Epstein. I've been told that there was an Epstein understudy. I mean, there has to be.

So, um, like operating now? Yeah, that he was, so, I mean, for VH1 to do a show on him. And I don't know who he is. I'd really like to know who he is, but at this point I don't know who he is. I hope that I can find out his name. I would be cool if the Epstein justice thing like took off, and then everyone was on notice. Oh yeah. And this became like an ultimate taboo thing to do he is he is he he he- he- he- he- he- he- he- he- he- he- he- he- he- he he- he- he he he- he- he- he- he- he- he- he's he is he is he is he- he- he is he is. he is. he is. he is. I he is he is. And he is he- he- he- he- he- he- he- he- he- he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th. And th th th th th tho to tho'- tho'- tho'-in. And to-he's-w to-in. And tho'-he's-he's-he's-he tho'-he tho'-he the Epstein justice thing like took off and then everyone was on notice. Oh yeah. And this became like an ultimate taboo thing

to do where people would be like sussing out anyone in power like, you know what I mean? Yeah. Well, that's what we can do with Epstein justice is, uh, it's really up to us. But I think that Epstein justice, um, like, you're listeners. like your listeners are in their 20s and 30s. And as I said earlier, I'm old and decrepit and I'll probably be gone in 15, 20 years unless the CIA gets me. Just joking. Just joking about that.

But you guys are going to have to grow up, and your children are going to have to grow up with a government that protects child molesters. That enacts laws that cause, makes the rich, richer and the poor the poor the poor the poor thier and thier and thier and thier and thier and thier and to have to grow up with a government that protects child molesters. That enacts laws that cause, makes the rich richer and the poor poorer and completely tramples on our constitutional rights. And endless wars, endless wars. And they make us facilitated. And we have to, our taxes go for these endless wars too. So we have to, I think really it's, it's a, it's a, it's a their. It's a, and their. It's a, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and their, and it's, and it's, and it's, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it, it, it, it, it, it's, it, it, it, it, it, it. It. It. It. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, their, makes, their, makes, their, makes, their, makes, makes, their, makes, their, makes, their, makes, their, their our taxes go for these endless wars too. So we have to, I think really it's time now to put a stop to it.

And Epstein Justice is not going to be easy, but it's possible. The civil rights movement, not easy but possible. Gay rights, not easy but possible. There's a number of movements that in the history of the United States that have not been easy but they've been possible. And they were, they did do the Church Commission. They did have sit down things before where they light up the government and light up the intelligence agencies. Unfortunately, Frank Church did not, was not elected to Senator the next term that you were.

Obviously, that is. Which, I mean, and that's why, with the Truth in Reconciliation Commission, there would be political hacks, but then there's also people that that aren't involved in the political machinery that would be recruited. If it was a committee it would just be a bunch of political hacks, but with a commission if you you've got people, you know, like me, if if I was part of that commission. You're sitting on the thing asking the questions questions and yeah, then it would be I mean if if is that a thing that we've done as a Country we have done that before no way so that's how it should fucking be like it should be the You're not allowed to walk into the capital bro. We've been through this. I mean a lot of times these commissions have been corrupted. thin? you know if you put together to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the they. the their they. their their their their their their th. their th. th. th. their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th. th. times these commissions have been corrupted, but if we could find an, you know...

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rights. And I mean, a bunch of different ones. So, I mean, are we cool with that, too? I'm not cool with any of this. Yeah, it sucks. So we're not a coup with that, and the government's doing it, we have to change it. And I think Ebstein justice is the best vehicle for that, because as I said earlier, if you drill down on Ebstine, you will come across the cesspool that governs us.

And you will come across the people that govern us. And that's what we need to do as Americans, just to save our country, to save our lives, to make sure our children grow up in a much better society? They would be so afraid if this started. There was like a citizens trial. It does seem ideal. It's like the people like Hasser that get to the top because they just fucking say, fuck it and play ball. They're highly compromised and they're just puppets for lobbyists and whoever else give them money.

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you know, you got the Watergate book coming out all in the future, but I watched a thing with a, a Bob Woodward interview with Tom Brokaw. It looks like it's the early 2000s or something. And it's so fake. It's like a lie. It's like a young man's lie that he kept into his 50s or whatever. And I'm watching this and I'm sitting there going like, Nick Brian said this is all bullshit. And I'm just watching Tom Brokaw, like, just throw them softballs. And I'm like, people watch this.

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He goes, I'm running against David Duke. The only way I cannot win is if I'm caught in bed with a live boy or a dead woman. So that is the gold standard right there for compromise. And actually, in the godfather too, there's that situation where the senator who doesn't want to play ball with Michael Corleone is at a horror house. And he comes to, and there's a dead woman.

They do show us a lot in the movies. Oh yeah. They kind of. It's an interesting movie and I, there's gonna be a woman on my podcast. It's coming out tomorrow. Her name is Wendy Hopin and she is a mind control survivor. And she has said that she's the shit people don't believe in She has said that

Those parties are a lot like eyes wide shut that I can't watch that movie people people people will tell their satanic ritual abuse and mind control victims. That chant and they just I roll it sends me up a wall Well the thing is there was an organization called the False Memory Syndrome Foundation that came out in the 90s. The False Memory Syndrome Foundation was founded by Peter and Pamela Fride and they were siblings, half siblings and then they were husband and wife, which is normal. And Peter Fride was molesting. And they were siblings, half-siblings, and then they were husband and wife, which you know. Which is normal.

And Peter Freid was molesting his daughter, Jennifer, and Jennifer had said, I don't want to see you anymore. And then they hooked up with a guy named Ralph Underwager, who was a theologian and said that pedophilia is God's will. And that 70% of girls that have been molested thought it was beneficial for them. I mean, so that's who started the falsehood fund. But they got a lot of money from rich people that were molesting their kids.

Yeah. And so they get big. And then there was a bunch of there were there were there were CIA mind control people on on their board. Jolly West who who's in. Jolly West who's in it's interesting he's in chaos and he's talking about we can implant memories. I mean he he's saying that in a paper. But when he joined the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, he said nobody can implant memories.

So if they're doing this, this is what kills me. They deleted that chicken candidate. Like, this guy is wiping people's brains and mind controlling them. Why, like, they're such sick as they go on this foundation and they tell you how, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. such sick as that they go on this foundation and they tell you how like everything they do is fake like if I was doing that the last thing I would do is like make myself that obvious out in a foundation talking against but it worked. I know it does. It works and and they've got. They've got I mean it's a house of cards but they got amazing press. I mean the New Yorker the New Yorker lot of them actually front line. They're. They've. They've. They've. They've. They've. They've. They've. They've. They've. They've. They've. They've. They've. They've. They've. They've. They've. They've. I. I. I. I. I. I, I, I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I'm. I, I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. the. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thethey got amazing press. I mean, the New Yorker lauded them. Actually, Frontline did two segments on the False Memory Center on Foundation. Didn't they deal with the school in California? Lauding, you're thinking about McMarton. McMartin, yeah, they said all those kids are false memories, and not true.

And I had a show on McMarton where I didn't conclude that there was ritual abuse, but it was with Ralph Chite, and he is a professor at Brown University who wrote a book about, he looked at all these quote unquote, satanic panic cases, and really showed that there was child abuse at McMarton. Because there was definitely child abuse at McMartin. Ray Bucky, who was the son of the woman that owned it, he was molesting those kids for sure. So I mean, and the fact that he was able to walk is pretty marty, but

that case there was a woman who was, her name was Kee McFarland, and she was the one that was doing like the forensics with the kids. And she didn't know what she was doing and she would say, you don't want to talk about being abused because you're a scaredy cat. I mean, she was doing shit like that to these kids. That's wild. So she was completely tainting them. She was not coming and ad it objectively at all. And of course, the defense was able to take that apart

because she didn't know what she was doing. But definitely, Ray Bucky molested a lot of those kids. And now it's just thought of the Satanic panic and no kids got molested. Yep. That's what I'm saying. They kind of like rewrite history in a way slowly. Well that's what really weird about when Andrew was talking to me about like Epstein allegedly talking to Nassar or whatever.

The fact that like Netflix made those shows and it was so watered down and like such a limited hang out. They're like almost compliant and all this shit going on because if you're not going to get to the bottom of it, you're going to say that they Epstein flu like of age girls around and kind of like whine and dined them and like maybe made them give massages. Like everyone on the board of Netflix should be investigated

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Yeah. I watched it and I mean of course it was so diluted it was deluded it was deluded it didn't really get into what that was about and I mean that's another reason why we need a truth in reconciliation committee. We, we, we, we have to to the, we have to to the, uh, we have to the the, uh, the the, the, the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the, I th. I th. I to to to to th. I th. I was to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the th.. I I I I I I I I I I I I I I. I the th. I th. I the the the th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I was. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I to to to to. I was. I to. I to. And I mean, that's another reason why we need a truth in reconciliation committee. We have to bypass the government and we have to bypass the mainstream media. And now it can be done with podcasts. There are people, there are millions of people that listen to podcasts. And, um, and we don't need the mainstream media anymore. Whitney Webb's book is selling sensationally, One Nation under blackmail, and the reason, and she's completely bypassed.

And it's two whole books, it's a lot to read. And she's completely bypassed the mainstream media, but she's got on really huge podcasts. And the book is sold like hot cakes. Yeah, we were checking out Hunter Biden's laptop. It's like everyone, there's people's the the the their is sold like hot cakes. Yeah, we were checking out Hunter Biden's laptop and it's like everyone, there's people out there that will just be like, oh, you're obsessed with this dick. Like that's what they do, like, oh, why are you obsessed with pedophiles?

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everybody on every podcast talk about it but it is crazy because they will now defend they will say this is a right wing fever dream. Yeah, you're a trump tard if you start talking about this stuff. I've seen that. And they can't, no one on the other side of the political spectrum will look at this stuff. Well, that's why we need, that's why we're a non-partisan organization. Yeah. And this is gonna be like, uniting you. The blood in the crypts. Ebstein justice is not about Republicans and Democrats.

It's not about race. It's not about religion. It's about Jeffrey Epstein molesting little girls and his cohorts, molesting little girls. And they're in our government. And our government covering it up. It's pretty much that simple. I do not subscribe to Q&on theology, as I said before. Q&on theology, says that Donald Trump was going to liberate all the children

that were enslaved. It hurts us. I left the church. And Donald Trump couldn't even indict the Epstein perpetrators. So, or didn't even bother to indict the Epstein perpetrators. I mean, as Attorney General William Bar was really dirty. I wish her well. Yeah. So and that's I had another NSA guy, John Schindler, on my podcast a while back and his theory is

that the way the reason why Q&on got so blown up was so that it could discredit people. They did a great job with that. Yeah. That was like a home run. Like us. Yeah. And was like a home run. Like us. Yeah. And at this point, I just hope that Americans can see the truth. And I think most people, the vast majority of people, want to do the right thing. Sure, yeah. And if you can show them what the right thing is, I think that they will do it.

Now, I could be completely delusional on this matter, but I do believe it. And as I said, there's been movements in the past that went completely against the grain of society, but yet they were able to actualize like the civil rights and gay rights. There's a number of movements like that. I mean they had to go protest get hit with firehoses you're saying all you have to do is click. Well at this point it's just start out. Yeah at this point we just need social networking and and we've gotten more sophisticated. The thing about it is, what we have that those other movements didn't have is the internet.

And the internet's going to enable us to come together. And this is free, this isn't you grifting. This isn't some weird shit where like, people, you're asking for money and you're taking 90% of it. Look around my apartment. Does it, does it look like it? Does it? It is, what it, what it, what it, what it, what it, th, what th, th, th, th, th th th th th th th th th th th th th th is, what we th is, what we th is, what we th is, what we th is, what th is, what thi, what we have thi, what we have thi thi, what we have th is, what we have th is, what we have th is, what we have th is, what we it is, what it is, what it is, what it is, what it is is is, what it is is is is, what is is, what is, what is is is, what is, what is, what is, what is, th is, th is, th is, th is, th is, th is, th is, thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi thi people you're asking for money and you're taking 90% of it. Look around my apartment does it look like I'm drifting? I can't see around all the gold couches. This this apartment would be the last apartment of a grift yeah. So I I yeah I'm with the Franklin scandal I'd I think I'd be lucky. I'd I think I'd be lucky if I'd thi to be lucky if I'd be lucky if I'd. I'd I'd I'd I'd this I'd this I'd this I'd this I'd this I'd this I'd this I'd this I'd I'd this I'd this I'd this I'd this I'd this I'd this I'd this I'd this I'd this I'd this I'd this I'd this I'd this I'd this I'd like I'd like I'd this I'd this I'd this I'd this I'd like I'd like I'd like I'd like I'd like I'd like I'd like I'd this I'd this I'd this I'd this I'd this I'd this I'd this I'd this I'd this I'd this I'd this I'd this I'd this I'd to be like I'd to be like I'd the Franklin scandal, I think I'd be lucky if I was making minimum wage on it. And if you do the time, yeah.

Yeah. If you look at the time, and definitely with the stuff that I've exposed with, I've not made that much money off of it. But, you know, maybe I'm like an anomaly, I don't know, but I just don't think much money off of it. But I, you know, maybe I'm like an anomaly. I don't know, but I just don't think children should be molested with impunity. I just- Yeah, I'm a freak-share for that one.

Yeah, I'm out there thinking. And when I was first in Nebraska, and I went to Nebraska, like I said, I'm approached most things agnosticly. I'd read all this shit on the internet about Franklin that it was hooked up to the CIA and that it was was hooked up to blackmail and that it was Boys Town. This is like early days internet. This is a way different internet that you were on. So I was singing to myself. I mean, I was, I thought, and I read the Camps book and he made a case for like there being some kind of pedophile ring in Omaha. But I mean, that's kind of what I thought I was going to find.

But then what I found was so much bigger and uglier than I ever could have imagined. That freaked me out. I got a death threat on that trip, but I was much more freaked out that Franklin was a reality. Yeah, than I was by that. I mean the death, don't get me wrong. You know, the death threat. I didn't sleep very well that night. But neither did my friend who was. So you actually, you had it. You had the moment where like, this is actually real. Holy shit.

And then you get a death threat, and that really corroborates a lot of things. So, and at that point, I, I, I, I, I, I, these motherfuckers are going to have to kill me to stop me. So, I mean, dude. That's an exact quote that came from my mind. You're one tough dude, man. I don't know how you get your balls all the way up here. So, um, but I was so appalled that my government was involved in trafficking children.

I mean, it was, I mean, I was stunned by that. But nobody knew this stuff back then. What was like the most far out shit you were on before that happened? Um, were you pretty much like, like, normal dude? Yeah. No, no, I had, um, I had, I freelanced for the Twin City reader. And I wrote an article. There was a woman who ran a service for prostitutes. And she was saying that there's a serial killer killing prostitutes.

And she was kind of crazy. So the St. Paul police, the Minneapolis police, and the media had just ignored her. And so I talked to her, and then she was crazy. But then I talked to some prostitutes. And they said definitely, there's a serial killer killing us. And because there's this on... Try so many times.

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strangled. And over the course of like the preceding eight years there were like over 40 women that had been stabbed, strangled or beaten to death. So obviously there was a serial killer. And I went to, I put the list together and then I went to the Minneapolis Police Department. I went to, I put the list together, and then I went to the Minneapolis Police Department, I went to the St. Paul Police Department, I said, you really wanna say that there's no serial killer? And they, I got the St. Paul guy to go much further than I got the Minneapolis guy,

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And Jerry said to me, quit complaining. At least now you can sell the story. Yeah, right. So I was finally, I sold the story to Playboy. And, um, is Playboy still real? I think barely if they are. And I was finally vindicated on that. But I mean, that can be the problem is when you're ahead of the curve on stuff, people don't, I mean, nobody wanted to believe that highly decorated NYPD detectives were Hitmen for the mob. So have you always kind of been like piled? Have you always been like, ah, something's up with that?

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to investigation will keep a man in everlasting ignorance. So I really worked very hard not to have contempt prior to investigation. And unfortunately, you know, well, fortunately it's kept my mind open, and unfortunately it's led me down a very dark path. It's a very poor path. And, but I'm cool with everything. Yeah.

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you just come across just a stellar human being. And you form a friendship with, I really love this guy. And we sat down in Washington Square park. And he said to me, to me, you, I, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you th, you th, you th, you th, I, you th, I was th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you know, you thi, you know, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, I was th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you th, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was th. I was thi, you thi, you know, I was thin, I was thin, I was thin, thin, thin, to thin, theeea, thin, theea, thin, th. I was looking the the the, you know, you with, I really love this guy. And we sat down Washington Square Park and he said to me, I said, Jerry, it's all true. You know, it's all true. It's like out of a movie. And he said to me, I won't think anything less of you if you decide not to pursue this. And you know, I said to him, I've got to. I mean, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the you if you decide not to pursue this and you know I said to him I've got to I mean I'm not going to be able to live with myself if I don't pursue this yeah right and and and that was it I

I started you know pursuing it and and it was and it's led to a very strange life since then. Yeah, now you're doing obscene justice. But, and I don't know. I mean, it would have been much easier for me just to write the kind of bullshit that I was writing before I got into Franklin and live the way that I was living. Um, but that wasn't my karma. That was, that was, that, that was, that, that was my karma. That was, that. That, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that was, that was, that, that, that was that, that was that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that was that was that was that was that was that. That, that. That, that. That, that. That, that. That, that. That was that was that. That, that was that was that was that was that was that was that was that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was that was that was that was that was, that was that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, that was, the way that I was living. But that wasn't my karma. That wasn't my path. I went down this path. And, you know, when I knew what was about,

I knew this path was going to be difficult. I mean, I knew that. I didn't think it was going to be as difficult as it has been, but I knew it was going to be a difficult path. But on the other hand, I thought to myself, you know, all these kids got destroyed. Yeah. And I know about it, and I might be able to do something about it.

I should really, you know, give this my best shot. And, um, and I'm, I'm stubborn. I'm, I'm a, I'm a very stubborn guy. You know, if, uh, if, if I really want to do something, I'm, I'm a guy that does it. That's just, that's just my nature. Uh, regardless of, you know, the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, I'm going to do it. And so that's, so I went from serial killers to mob, to say, NYPD Detective Hitman, to Franklin and then to Ebstine. And now I'm at Epstein Justice. I don't really think that we need to know much more about Jeffrey Epstein.

I mean, I hope that we do. But to get Epstein Justice going, we don't need to know more. We know who a lot of the perpetrators are. We know how it was covered up. We know who it was covered up for. Now it's just a matter of mobilizing and Making sure that that our government doesn't traffic children anymore All right. Yeah, I think we're good if you got anything else you want to talk about

Let me how much more stamina you got. Yeah, you're going all. Let me just say You got all time in the world by the way. Yeah, we don't have to stop. I'm going to Manchurian candidate your audience. Right on. What does that mean? Like you create a Manchurian candidate. I'm going to say Ebstine Justice. toxiejustus. Oh yeah, yeah. Don't do it

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