Werewolf Ambulance: A Horror Movie Comedy Podcast - Episode 51- Hellraiser (1987)

Episode Date: October 12, 2015

Come to daddy, Werewolf EMTs! This week we're discussing the 1987 Clive Barker pleasure-meets-pain-meets-puzzles horror classic, "Hellraiser." Special topics of discussion include: Frank's bizarre accent and even more bizarre need to be wearing clothing at basically every moment, the California Raisins, rocks shaped like potatoes, super gory effects, Captain Lou Albano and what parts of a person's skin you'd really need to wear in order to pass for them. Do you like this movie? This is one where we'd particularly like to hear from you: tell us your thoughts on "Hellraiser" at facebook.com/werewolfambulance, on Instagram @werebulance, on Twitter @werebulance or as always, at werewolfambulance.angelfire.com. Werewolf Ambulance is a horror movie comedy podcast. 

Come to a daddy? Come to a daddy? Come to daddy? Hello. And come to daddy? Hello? And come to daddy? What is that accent? That's his accent! Welcome to another episode What is that accent? That's his accent! Welcome to another episode of WheWambulance.

I'm Katie and I'm here with my friend Alan. Hey Alan. Come to Daddy? It's what he says. It's what he says. Katie, what are we doing here? That's a very good question. What am I doing with the last hour and half of my life?

It wasn't that recent, but still. Watching Hellraiser. Clive Barker's Hellraiser, 1987. Sorry, I didn't appropriately attribute it to Clive Barker. Listen guys, I know a lot of you really like this movie. You're just getting rid of this right out of the gate. I don't understand why. And I'm going to try to understand why through the course of this episode, but I anticipate that at the end I'll still hate it. Come to Daddy? I would like to drop in him saying that here.

Just so you can hear how close I am. Curse D. It's Frank. It's Uncle Frank. No. You remember? Come to Daddy? Get up! So where do you want to start, Katie? Come to Daddy. It would be better if he didn't say it's 67 times through the movie. Come to Daddy? It's just, okay. So this is a movie about... So there's this pervert named Frank.

Yeah. He needs to go extreme. He was just like, full on mountain doing this thing. So he gets this box, this puzzle box from a dude in a cafe in the Middle East? Yes, it appeared to be foreign country, in quotes. Frank pays a bunch of money for it, and he's like, it's always been yours. Then why charge him for it, you dildo? Because it's got to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be to be about to be a to be a to be a to be a the puzzle, to be? Because it's got to be about the journey. Whatever.

So the puzzle box sends you to hell for pleasure and pain? Like, already I don't see how these things connect. Do you know what I mean? I wonder if our dislike of athletic sex is going to wear into us not understanding this. Oh my God, Just calm down. So Frank has apparently disappeared or something and he has his brother Larry who's married to a woman named Julia who looks just like David Bowie did in 1987. I don't mean to be a dick but she does. Larry is a straight of whip like it.

Yeah. They inherit Larry's mother's mother's house I guess so, yeah. She dies and so it's Larry and Frank's mother. Julia puts out a cigarette on the original hardwood floors, which I hate her. I think that was supposed to make all of us hate Julia. See, that was a question I had, which we can get into later, is like, how are we supposed to feel about Julia? Because she's a villain, but she's also like a point a point a point, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the the the the the the the the to.. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. to. the the the the the the the the the this movie through her eyes for the first half of it, I guess. You know, and it's hard to, that's a hard thing to do, to have it be a point of view character and also just like a hateful person.

Mm, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's a thing that doesn't really work for me. So they go up into this upstairs bedroom and they find a bunch of like, basically a flop house kind of thing happening here. Larry picks up a statue of like two people boning and he's like oh Frank's been here like oh I know my brother's porno statues anywhere. That's a dope statue by the way I would totally have that in my house as well as that whatever that saint was that was holding was it John the Baptist? I guess so that's a John the Baptist? I guess so that's awesome Salam I that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's a that's a that's a that's a the that's a the the that's a the the the that's a the the that's a that's a the the the the that's a the the the the the the that's a that's a that's that's the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the thononneneauauau is is is. Ia. I was I was I was not I was soa. I was. I was soa. I was. I'm soa. I'm soa. I'm soa. I'm soa. I'm so Yeah, Salamay beheads John the Baptist. Oh, Clive Barker directed a movie called Salamay early on. Yeah. A little nod to his nod.

There you go. There's also all these photos of Frank in like Flagrante delecta. Like, who took them? Who took those photos? Did you notice that he had pants Is that one of his kinks that he's got to do it through denim? That would be painful, I guess, for everyone. Zipper's gonna tear you up. It's gonna, I just,

so, hence they're getting the new house, or moving into this house? What to their dock? They didn't seem like clean or have we been like, well, moving on Sunday. They're moving from Brooklyn to... It seems suburban, I guess. It's a large house. Right, but it's obviously London, yet everyone who comes there has an American accent. That was a thing I wondered about because Frank's accent is so fucked.

I don't know if they were trying to like, yeah, I don't know if they were just adjusting it. It seemed dubbed, yeah. It's very weird. But Julia is not dubbed. No, no. She's the only one with a British accent. And it was shot in London. Like the film, I mean, those are like, architecturally, that's London.

Right. There's no getting away with not being London. London is in Vancouver that can just be any city. Yeah, but but but but but that, that, that that that that that that that that th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the the the the the the the the the they they they's they's they's they's they's they's they're they're they're they're they're they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's, they's, they's, they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's they's, they's. they's. they's. they's. they's. they's. they's. they's. they's they's they's they's they's they're their they're their their their their their their their their their their their they. their they. they. they. their their their their their their their their their just be any city. Yeah. So, through a series of flashbacks, we find out that Julia had an affair with Frank right before her wedding to Larry. And we know it's in the past because her mullet is significantly longer. Where this cuss me to write the note, Frank isn't hot enough to put an unsolicited finger in someone's mouth. Everyone's putting their fucking fingers in their mouth and other people's mouths in this movie. That's gross. Don't do that. I'm sorry. This is going to be how this episode's going to go. I also have a note along those lines about Frank not being hot enough, but this is just a general note. This is a lot to go through for some dick. This is a lot to I don't know, I don't know.

I don't, this movie is about sex and puzzles. And hell, right? Right. And pleasure and pain. These things don't really work to, I don't know. It depends on your perspective, I suppose. It's taking some disparate elements of hell. I was 13 when I saw this movie for the first time, because that's when it came out. Gross.

I will say that, like, the sex stuff didn't really like register with me. Oh really? When I was younger, I was like, I don't know, it's just about pinhits, man. It's gonna be about pinheads. Spot on like I think the atmosphere of it is really like it's horror There's just like feeling of horror the into because they're in a gross house Yeah, the most terrifying scene in the movie is the taking the bed up the step scene Oh, when he screeps his hand on the mail. Oh, come on. It's so good. That is very good. And there also just a lot of like? Beautiful aesthetic? Aetically pleasing shots of like fires burning or I don't know like now I can't remember what else but like really artistic atmospheric things

that are nice and that's the last nice thing I'm gonna say I think the special effects are awesome in this movie oh yeah it's like it's so gross yeah but it's like that, that beauty and gross. Like he's definitely accentuating how beautiful the disgusting can be. Yeah, which is the same type of contrast as pleasure and pain. Yeah. Cool, cool job, Clive Parker. But just so you, if you haven't seen this movie and like, I guess see it.

We're gonna spoil it. You should definitely see it. It's free, so if you have Netflix, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it's th, it's th, it's th, it's th, it's th, it's th, it's th. th. th. th, it's definitely thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, th. th. th. th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th, th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, it's definitely thi, thi, thi, thi. thi. thi. thi. thiiiiiiii. thiii. thi's thi's thi. thi's you should definitely see it. It's free so if you have Netflix. It's a classic. It is a classic though I don't understand why. Julia finds Frank's like gross skinless body walking and talking in this bedroom. After Larry cuts his hand and the blood, the blood revives Frank because he is a baby and walked in the room with the cut hand going mama mama he was bleeding quite a bit. Yeah but come on dude you don't just walk in and say deal with this like. The last time I cut my finger like chopping vegetables I literally just cried and held it above my head until my husband did something about it so So I don't know. I get that. I get that. All right. I guess I'm not a, yeah, whatever. So here's some questions. Sure. Yeah. One. Where was Frank? Hell? Yeah.

Two. Why does his brother's blood revive him? Because that was the room that he like got taken to hell in so his there was a bit of him still there it was obviously still some sort of portal involved in that room because they didn't need the puzzle box to have the centibite to enter that room there was some magic there. To be. The centibites say they've done this many times so do you get revived? Because they seem stunned by this revelation that he has come back. I mean, because God forbid you get taken in a bathroom. Do you know what I mean? Or actually, I guess that's better for you because it'll be easy for you to come back. Do you know?

I think this might be one of those things where you just kind of go, okay. I can't. That's that's the logic. That's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's the logic. that's that's that's the logic. I that's that's that's that's th. I that's that's that's that's that's that's that's a the logic. I. I that's that's that's that's. that's. I that's. I that's. I that's. I that's. I that's. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I's a. I's a. I. I. I'm. I. I'm. I'm. I that's a. I th. I th. I th. I th. I th. I t. t. t. t. t. t. t. that's. I that's. I that's. I that's. I that's. I that's. I that's. Let's move on. There is no lodg... Okay. All right. So Frank is like all grossed up and he looks gross and he looks great and he's like has the cheek bones and his face. It's like very you know anatomical and just upsetting. And the puppet head is fantastic. The original one that comes up and when he's like crawling across the floor so gross. I can't figure out why when he first comes back before he gets his blood he's warning this is going to be gross he's covered in jizz it looks like. It's a very slimy substance and he's scary until he starts talking. Come to daddy. I promise not to say it again except maybe one more

time. She'll definitely say it again. Yeah I can't stop. So he realizes that he needs more blood to continue to regenerate his body. And so Julia goes out and seduces men basically to bring them back to her house to kill them, which is a great plot. I'm into this plot so far. This is the first act. I'm in. She's bringing a series of Phil Collins is back to her house. They don't th th th they they they don't. They don't. They don't. They don't. They don't. They don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't they don't th. They don't th. They don't th. They don't th. They don't th. They don't th. They don't tho th. They don't th. th. th th th th th th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. thee. theooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo back to her in the house. They don't have accents though, you're right. Weird.

Yeah. There's something up with that. We could Google it, but I'm not going to. You can't if you want. No, it doesn't say where the movie's supposed to take place. I did a little bitthe daughter says that she... She has recently moved too, so it doesn't make sense that they would have moved from like Brooklyn to London. And then she also moved there but got her, I don't know. Right, because he definitely says, well we'll just move in on Wednesday.

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What are centibites? Demons to some, angels to others. Fuck. They're, uh, they're demons who are real into S&M and opening, vaginal openings on their throats. Yeah, one totally is a vagina throat and one is totally a California raisin. Like, did any, did no one look at that and be like, I'm sorry, this is not appropriate. Which part? The vagina throat? No, the one that looks just like a California raisin. He th is the same th. He th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. They's th. They's the same th. T thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the same thi thi thi the same thi throw? No, the one that looks just like a California raisin. He's even wearing the same sunglasses. He heard it through

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You don't keep that amount of stubble at all times, thoubying some kind of dumb. It seems like it'd be hard to maintain. Yeah, because he probably sh is bringing these men back to the house and Larry's daughter, Kirstie, who has fantastic hair. Yeah, I had such a crush on her when I was a kid. She's lovely, a lovely girl. She looks a lot like, she's like Natalie Shortman.

Like, she's just like Natalie Portman. She sees Julia bringing these men back and assumes like she's having an affair. Yeah. But then her creepy Uncle Frank is like, come to Daddy. I'm sorry, but this is appropriate to say it now, because it's what happens in the movie. Yeah, after he kills, not Dan Ackroyd, he comes out and she sees that he's a skinless freak. Yeah. And start to tell her how beautiful she's become.

Like it immediately goes to just to just to go to go to go to go to go to go to just gross town. Yeah, but that's your niece. Yeah, I don't think Frank has a moral compass. Let's be working on it. And then he kills Julia. Well, that's later. Is it? Yeah, because he's already gotten Larry's skin by that point. The first time she sees him when she goes nuts and has to go to. Oh, yeah, she goes to the puzzle box? Yeah, because the doctor comes in and goes, maybe this will jog your memory. And also he's like, the police are going to want to talk to you.

Why? What had she done? Because she was covered in blood when they found her passed out on the street. Oh. Frank's blood, because he had been touching all over. Because he's disgust so shitty. What's vagina throat's called? Female centibite? This is according to Wikipedia. Butterball. Female centibite. Oh you're the girl. Can we quickly talk about the scene where she's working in the pet store and the guy comes in needs the handful of crickets? So gross. When they first, this guy is like a homeless man.

Homeless man? A homeless man that they have passed. He appears in several scenes. He's kind of seems to be creeping around. And for a hot second, I swear to God, I thought it was Captain Lou Albano. It's not. It's not. No, he eats a handful of the fucking the movie.

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Wait, so why did he, what, the doctor had it? She threw it out the window and then picked it up down the street with it all dazed and crazed. Right. We haven't mentioned Steve, her boyfriend. He's cool. He does a disgusting cigarette trick, like heads up, that will not impress a woman. It did for her. She was totally into it. It's gross. I had the note that I bet Steve's into some pretty cool music. Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. What year is this? 1987? Yeah, some good stuff, man. Sone of a th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the th. S. S. S, th. S. S, th. S, th. S, th. S, th. S, th. S, th. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S. S good stuff, man. Son of a bitch. She's gotten the puzzle box back. She fucks with the puzzle box and it becomes very intriguing to her. It does not seem the puzzle is difficult to solve. Well, it shouldn't be because they want you to open portals to hell so they can come hang out with you. Why have a puzzle box at all? Why not just say I'm trying to get mean fucked? Mean fucked. Do you know what I mean? Is that like a search term mean-fucked?

I don't know. I don't know. Because that puzzle box looks awesome and as we've known since then, you can sell a shit ton of them to people. That's a valid point. So she opens the puzzle box and like figures it out and you just have to do some twist and nibbles and nibbles and then it makes magic-a-a-a little cute lights and then the wall opens up and a terrifying death monster comes running down a hallway at you. That is so scary.

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they're so much. It's so good though. At least he's not like quipping. No. That's almost worse that he's so serious though. It's worse that he believes in what he's saying? She goes back to the house and Larry is there, but it's not Larry. Not not a not her daddy. And she does not notice that his, the entire side of his face is covered in blood while she's like hugging and kissing him and kissing him on the mouth because, God, you're gross. This whole family is gross. And also like, is Larry's skin just draped over Frank because that cannot be? Yeah, it is.

I'm sorry, but that cannot be. That's all the sequels that happens again and again. That's all how these his work. I know, but didn't face off ruin that for everyone. All right, that's fair. Nick Cave and John Travolta don't even have the same size heads. Nick Cave? Where were the bad seats when this was happening? Oh my god, how much better with that movie? Like every time it just cut to Nick Cave and he's just smoking, he doesn't doesn't doesn't doesn't doesn't doesn't doesn't doesn't doesn't doesn't doesn't th and he doesn't th and he doesn't th and he doesn't th and he doesn't really want to do anything. No. And John Travolta is like, ayah ayah, ay. Sorry, Nick Cage.

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Because he, that means they're the same height and the same like shoulder broadness and the same like love handle size and their legs are the same length? Like, it doesn't make any steps? Do you think he just pulled on like a Larry head and Larry hands. Yeah. I thought it would mean she was just doin' with a bloody cock then. Do they have sex? Yeah. Ew. That's why I have the note that this is a lot to go through for some dick.

Wait, when do they have sex? Like right after he takes, he comes back to Larry's face, hands and dick? What? You probably put on jeans,'s face, hands, and dick. Well, you probably put on jeans, too, so I don't know. Stick. How's your pleasure now, Frank? This is a mess. This movie's a mess.

Yeah, well, yeah. So... Christie's like hiding in a closet and then sloth from the Goonies comes out and barfs maggots all over her? And then goes away, help me Jesus. Jesus take the wheel. What do you be happy if he puked baby Ruth all over when he came out? Yes, I would.

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The room never got cleaned up. It was very disgusting. No, there are rats in it too And at one point like Julia sees rats and she's like, and then later Larry is like probably just rats like this is your home This is your home like? Like sometimes you get mice and you're like, they they? they? they? th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi, thi, thin th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th thin thin thin thin thin thin thin thin, thin, to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to thin to thin thin thi thi thin thi thin, you get mice and you're like, oh my god, mice. Yeah. You have a rat and it's in your upstairs. You're doing something terribly wrong. And it's nailed to the wall? Well, that is very upsetting. Those little rat friends. Oh, the scene where Julia and original Larry, not Frank, Larry are laying on the bed like, you know, making out, and then Frank comes out of the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the laying on the bed like, you know, making out and then Frank comes out of the closet and starts like skinning the rat at her. It was real narly.

I don't recall that? Oh really? That's when she's saying please don't, don't and Larry thinks that it's a ham and it's too. Well, whatever. So the centibites show back up and then put a bunch of hooks into Frank Larry. They're real into putting hooks into things like and it just looks like someone putting hooks through like some lunch meat ham. Fuck somebody stabbed that ham. I was

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Have you heard of the band Sunny Day Real Estate? Yes I have. So with Jesus. He was very sad. No, I don't, I mean, I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm s s s s s s s s s s s s s s s. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I'm, th. I'm, th. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm th. I'm th. th. th. th. th. th. thore. thor. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. th.? Yes, I have. So, Jesus, he was very sad. Oh, okay. No, I don't, I mean, I'm sure something happened in the Bible that made him sad. Yeah. Probably like a plague or something. Yeah, that's sad. Well, that's sad. Well, what? He was a heal.

to do it. I tell you what he's not watching a Netflix fucking Pinterest movie. What is Hellraiser? Pinterest. Pinhead! So, Frank gets pulled apart again and stuck on the blocks of wood. Like, come on, twice in your life is awful. And have we ripped apart in your own brother's skin? Yeah, think about it. Okay.

And... Think about it. Okay. And I wish there was a word of capture that as desperation right then. I've been shaking my head for 30 solid minutes now. My neck hurts. So now Christy and Steve has shown up and they need to escape the house before pinhead and the gang sound so cute. It's like a funny Saturday morning cartoon. And the house is of... Pinhead in the gang sounds so cute. It's like a funny Saturday morning cartoon.

And the house it seems to be filled with like shaking bake and it's just like shaking all over the place and stuff just falling down the whole time. Because it was shotle made. I mean we saw that this house was, hey it had some black mold issues. There's a lot going on. Yeah, they should have a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They should th. They should they should they should they should they should they should they should they should they should have they should have they should have they should have they should have they should have they had had had some. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They had had had some they had some they they they they they the the the the the their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their their. It their. It their their. It their. It their. It their. It their their their their their their their their their their their th. th. th. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the. the the the. their their you have a pinhead infestation? I don't know. I don't know. I don't think you can sell with that. I mean, I mean, if you're aware of it, you should probably legally have to disclose. Though we don't know what country they're in. So who knows what the laws are? Probably state by state by country. Julia and Steve are trying to four-handed fetal scorpion comes running back in at them. They have a scorpion slap fight. He slaps in Kirstie, she slaps in him back. They're both like slap, they're just slapping at each other, trying to get the puzzle box, which is funny.

Scorpion slack fight. Yeah, I'm gonna go right there. Yeah. And like, she's trying to this point, you know? You don't know what you're doing. Really, like that shirt he was wearing with all the different colors? Love Steve's Rainbow Square shirt. Yes. Right there.

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He looks nothing like him. I'm sorry, I keep saying that. But I really thought it was for a second. Pets the hand into the flames. His complete body is on fire. Yeah. And then his body melts off. He's got a demon sculpting with wings and then he flies away. Because I was just sitting here thinking, I think he flies away. And then I think he flies away and then I think that can't be right. No, he does. He does.

He was like a, like a lichy-like-lichang or something. It's so weird because the first half of the movie, I would say, is like the Julia Frank weirdness, which I'm fine with. And then there's like this, just everything after that, I don't know, it doesn't seem to, it's very oddly paced, I guess. It seems like Christie should have spent more time fighting the centibites, but it's very quick. She's like in and out. Yeah, I don't think there's there's there's there's much there's much there's much there's much there's much there's much the much the much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much you their much much much much much much much you can't their much you their much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much much. their. their. their. the. I think you just have to evade them. I think I've only ever seen one other of the Hellraiser movies. Okay. So that's how anybody gets rid of them is just fucking with the puzzle box? So basically like they just look at you why you fuck with the puzzle box and then

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But the same puzzle box is they can just fix it again and close it and you're gone. Right. That is an inherent flaw in the puzzle box. It's, you're going on to one of my big problems with this is Clive Barker. I have issues with Clive Barker. I think Clyde Barker has these fantastic ideas to start. I don't know, the only book I've ever read is Books of Blood by him. Okay. The collection of short stories. And all the short stories start off awesome and then like,

do you think he just runs out of steam? I don't know. Like there's a story called Rawhead Rex, which is also a movie, which has the ridiculous monster in it, but like the story of that is like this monster gets brought back up out of this churchyard and all you have to do is kill it is hit it with this stone that shaped like a potato. All stones are shaped like potatoes. And I remember reading that and just, I'm the the's not even an incantation or anything? And this is just like, I don't know, do the opposite of the puzzle and they'll go away.

So it's, I'm. Their weak, that being their weakness, is makes them very weak. Yeah. The same thing you use to summon them, you use to destroy them can never really destroy them. There's a chance that are always going to come back. Well, just don't do the fucking puzzle box again. Yeah. Although Frank didn't do the puzzle box, they showed up. Because she let them in.

By doing the puzzle box. I guess I don't know. And she made the deal with them. Yeah, Frank's just y on the thing will be done. It's just kind of like, you know, they have their foibles. But I guess it didn't. I mean, the freezing and then, yeah. It didn't, it.

It didn't carry a bucket of ice on it and it also went away I just I hate it I do not understand how this has spawned so many sequels because it's not a good concept oh I think it's a good concept it is not a good concept we just discussed that I think I think the concept I just think the resolution is poor like there could be better ways to handle it and like from like 13 year old me to now I think I I I I I I the the th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like thin th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th I th I th I th th th th th th th th th th th th th th th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like th like thin the the the to to to to to to to to to to to to to to to theeee to to thi thi thi thi thi thi thi the till now I think the centibite look cool to shit I think they look awesome even butterball even butterball I don't know what I identify with most oh come on do we talk about Julia's hair her hair is phenomenal we should hit on that it's a wind tunnel it just keeps taking these shapes and in cresting and she's so cold and she's so cold aned She's so 80s hot. I guess in the 80s to be hot you had to be cold. Yeah, she is described as frigid at one point. Which leads to Steve and Kirstie making out

in the dirty, dirty subway stop. Yeah. She also in her own home wears slacks over pantyhose with heels. So it's like, you clearly aren't relaxing ever. But like that orange eye sh-I I I I I I I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thirty, thirty, thirty, thii, thi, thirty, thi, thirty, thirty, thirty, thirty, thirty, thi, thi, thi, thi, thi, thia is thia is to to to to to to to thia is to to to to to to to to to to th. th. th. thage, th. th. thage, thi is is thi is thage, thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is thi is just just thiauiaugh is thi is to thi is just to thi is just to to to to to to to to that orange eye shadow, just out of control. That's what I thought you looked like David Bowie. I like, and when they, when she came up in that scene, I was like, that's who it is. At one point I also made the note, Julia also kind of looks like the Terminator,

but I don't know what I meant. I don't know my biggest complaint about this film is the music. Oh, that's your biggest complaint. I think the music is terrible because the industrial band Coyle originally did a soundtrack for this movie. Like, Clive Barker like sought them out, got them to do the soundtrack. They did it and he's like, I don't like it. And it's so good. I listen to it all the time. Yeah. And this like, the one they got sounds like it should be on a fucking romance movie. I can't even think of, I can't even remember.

It's just like these orchestral flourishes and stuff that just don't work in the movie. I don't think much works in this movie. I know that people that people really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people people that people that people that people that people that people that people really really really really really really really really really really that people that people that people one of those things like the band Tool or Radiohead that when you tell people you don't like it, they say you just don't get it. And maybe I just don't get it, but I don't know. It may just not be for you. When did you see it first?

Oh, like five, seven years ago. Yeah, so I wonder if me sing at first at 13 made it a little easier for me to stomach. It's dumb. Yeah, but I like a lot of dumb shit. No, this is a different level dumb. There's nothing, there's no humor in this. It is very bleak. It is very grim.

It's super somber. Like there's no relief from how bleak it is. Right. So normally when you like dumb stuff, you like Return of Living Dead where they're cutting, you know, split dog. Yeah, yeah. That's funny, ish. Funny enough. Sure. There's no comedic relief in this movie.

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You have like 30 seconds. Okay. I think the atmosphere is great in this movie. I think the special effects are great in this movie. Double trick off hands? Two dicks. I don't know if it hit me at the right time at the right age I think. You say that about everything. Oh, it's true though. This is true though. This is pain for me. This is not pleasure. I'm sorry. I keep interrupting. I'm the thr. I th. I th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. the thi. thi. the the th. th. th. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. It. th. the. the. the. th. the. the. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I. th. th. th. th. I. I. I. I. I. I. I don't know I really actually this time watching it I was like going into it going God this movie is so shittily paced and then like watching I was like oh wait the pacing's way better than I remember it being so maybe I'd set myself up for expecting it to be crap. It is shitily paced. Yeah the pacing's a little off but like it gets going faster than I remembered it getting going going. I really like like. I the the the the the the to. I. I. I. I. I to to to to to to to to to the to to to to the the to the the the to the the the the the the the the the the the pacing. the pacing. the pacing the pacing. the pacing. the pacing. the pacing is the pacing is the pacing is the pacing is the pacing is the pacing is the pacing is the pacing is the pacing I was the pacing. the pacing. the pacing. the pacing. the pacing. the pacing. the pacing. the pacing. the pacing the the the the the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. thi. th pacing. the. the theasing is thea. thea. thea. thea. thea. theapea. thea. theapea. thea thea thea the of the floor for the first time and he's just like the stick arms pulling his

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Yeah, I think it's just a thing you don't like, like Radiohead and Toole. This is the tool of horror films. It really is, in a lot of levels, it really is. Do you like Tool? Yeah. Well, that makes, that explain why Tool is good to you. That's something that I can't even like. Well, that makes, that separates you from a lot of other tool fans.

So what are we doing next week, Katie? Next week's our fucking one year anniversary. Holy shit. One year and we didn't miss a single week. No. What a lot of work we've put into this. I'm a year older, no fucking smarter. And hey guys, no Richer. We're still not on the top bazillion. No, I think we are, actually. If you search for a werewolf for the top result.

Oh, no way. Well, not a lot of podcasts with the wherwolf in it, but. Yeah, there's gonna be a few more. Yeah, that wasn in the Brazilian there. Unless it's just like filtering my results. I don't know. Who cares? We're in the top Brazilian. We're heading there. We're we're? We're doing another movie I absolutely adore. You know what though? I'll give this one another chance because I think that it has I do know that it has some redeeming qualities. We are doing one

of Alan's favorites Halloween 3. Damn it I love this movie. Season of the Witch. The first Halloween movie without Michael Myers. And the last. The last for very good reason. I completely disagree. So that's one of those ones on Amazon you can rent for a couple bucks. Yeah you've probably seen it. If you haven't the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the th. th. th. the the the the the of of of the of the the the the th. th. th. th. th. th. th. the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the th. th. the the the the th. th. the th. the th. the th. th. th. the the th. th. the tho. the thoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. I the. So that's one of those ones on Amazon. You can rent for a couple bucks. Yeah. You've probably seen it. If you haven't, you should, I guess. Pitburg's own Tom Atkins is in that movie. Oh yeah.

That's cool. Yeah, he's a cool dude. He's been a lot of great movies. We he was in something else that we've done. Was it creep show. He's the shitty dad. The shit-heed dad. Comic-cating dad. He's a Thrill Me in Night of the Creeps. Yeah, he's great. He's awesome.

Cool. So yeah, we're going to do a Halloween three. I'm stoked because it's almost Halloween. So, Alan's going to like it. mind, which I cannot do after I just watch Hellraiser. So you can tell us what you think on Facebook? Yeah, give Facebook a shot. Facebook, yeah, this is probably the best place to tell us what you think. Facebook.comback, slash, whereolf ambulance, Instagram and Twitter, you know what they are. I'm not telling you again.

After 51 episodes. I know, I'm really always say it. I don't know why I'm sick of it. You can check out our angel fire. We'll probably put up a new picture coming up on Halloween. Oh yeah. Maybe I'll change it all the time in October. Probably not. You just got looked, your face lit up like that was such a good idea. Okay, I'll do it. Yay, because I want to see what more ridiculous pictures you find. I feel like thrown myself though. that's th. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. thi. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. th. I th. I th. I'll. I'll. Yeah. Yeah. I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll th. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah really good. I know, I found it, I was like, geez. Have you seen that episode? No. Oh, it's so, you should watch it. It's great.

I will, I'll look into it. Yeah, thanks again to everyone who has hyped us up to their friends and they're, you know, told the people to off. Take that, Steve Jobs. Yeah, so thank you and we will be back next week for our 50-second episode. That's nut bar. Yeah. Nutbar. All right, cool. Thanks to seeing to another episode of WhereOFambulance. Bye. Bye.