WHOA That's Good Podcast - How I Saved My Relationship | Sadie Robertson Huff & Devin Cordle

Episode Date: April 10, 2024

Sadie and her new friend, Devin Cordle, are talking about SO much in this episode — and laughing a lot together too: motherhood, pregnancy brain, being an influencer, and so much more. By speaking to Devin for only a few minutes, you'll hear how much the Lord is the center of her life and how putting God FIRST in her relationship ended up saving it. Devin and Sadie are both striving to raise little disciples for Jesus and want to encourage ALL parents to keep up the good fight!  https://give.cru.org/good or text GOOD to 71326 — Get a free copy of Sadie and Christian's new book "How to Put Love First" with your monthly gift! https://drinkag1.com/whoa — Get a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs with your first purchase! https://www.trymiracle.com/whoa — Get 40% off + 3 FREE towels with code WHOA at checkout! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's up fam? Happy, whoa, that's good. Wednesday everybody. I hope you're having a good week, but per usual, it's about to get so much better. And for real, y'all are going to be so excited because every time I've ever said, who do y'all want to have on the podcast, this girl gets tagged over and over and over again And we finally made it happen. We have the influencer

YouTuber Podcaster mom wifey all the things Devon quarter on the podcast and welcome girl Hey, thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be here gosh. We're so excited I'll just tell the people listening because they weren't in on this previous moment, but my team was so excited to have her on that they were like, can we tell her hi? So you're loved and appreciated by so many and I'm so glad we're gonna get to have a little chat. Yes, I am so excited, looking forward to it. I can already feel like the Holy Spirit movement and how he's just gonna move in this conversation. So I'm so excited.

No, truly. That's like the best whenever I jump on these calls and it'll be like six minutes in, we haven't even pressed record yet and we're already having a good conversation. I'm like, okay, this is good. This is really good. Yes.

Well, I gotta ask you the question to ask everyone who comes on the Will That's Good podcast to kick us off and then we'll just have a fun conversation. But kick us off with the best piece of advice that you've ever been given. No pressure. Oh my gosh. Oh, I should have prepared for this because I know you ask all your guests this question. Woo, and I'm having pregnancy brain so I'm like going through it.

Oh, that happens. That's real. Yep. Oh my gosh. You know, the funny thing is about pregnancy brain is I I'm like, going through it. That's real. Yep. Oh my gosh. You know, the funny thing is about pregnancy brain is, I think it just stays with you and then becomes mom brain. And you just, thoughts just go, whew. Yes.

Well, if we need to circle back and you want to say it at the end, you can. Or I can just put you on the spot and the first thing that comes to your mind. OK, first thing that comes to your mind. Okay, first thing that comes to my mind, I think it's because I'm pregnant right now. So it's going straight to being a mom. And I would just say that every child is different. So don't count on other people's parenting. It's good to seek wisdom in their parenting advice and all that. But you'll know your child best.

You'll know everything they need because I truly believe that God gives us that gift as mothers is to be able to know how to pour into our child's life, even though it's so scary. So just to trust your own instincts and not depend on the world to give you all the answers, how to be a mom. That is honestly so good. And I'm glad we put you on the world to give you all the answers how to be a mom. That is honestly so good. And I'm glad we put you on the spot and made you say the first thing that comes to your mind

because that is so true. I think that I always tell my friends that because I used to have that like anxiousness, you know, about being a mom and like making all the right decisions based off of what I've heard and the methods and the this and the that. And then it's like so stressful and you don't want to make their own decision, all this stuff. And then I just had this revelation at one point that's so simple but so profound that I am their mom.

God made me to be their mom. He created me to be their mom. And He's equipped me to be their mom. So I have everything in me through him that I need to be the best mom to them that they can have because I am their mom. And so it was just, it just took the pressure off. And that's why I always tell my friends, you're their mom, you're the best person for the job. You are the best person to do the job. You're fully equipped for the job.

And your kid, yes, your situation's gonna look different. Your lifestyle's gonna look different. We always talk about that with our kids because they stay up late. And it's just funny because some people are like, ooh, I can't even imagine you should do this or this or that. And I'm like, yeah, but they travel all over the world with us. And it is so nice when we have like late flights or late nights at conferences and all this stuff that they're able to be there and enjoy it.

And you know, so that works for our lifestyle, but I would never tell somebody else, hey, you should keep your kid up this late because that would be crazy for your lifestyle. So you're so right. And it's actually true too. And cause you're pregnant with your second, right? Yes. So I have a little boy.

I have a little girl, Ivy, she just turned three. So is it honey? Yeah, she'll be three in May. So they're super close. They're so close. Yes. That's so sweet. I'm so excited. I love that age gap. I was scared to do two under two and funny story. Me and Hunter thought we were done after Ivy. We were like, no more kids, one and done. But God just works that way. He said, surprise.

Well, it's cool too, because your advice is true for your second kid. That's what really surprised me. I mean, I obviously knew they were gonna be different, but just how different is really amazing. Our whole thing here is like live original. And I think when you have two kids, you get to see just like the beauty of originality

and how God really does knit each one in their mother's womb to be an original, you know, made in his image, but in an original person. And Haven is so different than Honey in every way. Like with the whole sleep thing even, Haven just goes to sleep on a schedule because she just does that. Like we didn't, and I remember the first time

like when I started putting her down and she wouldn't cry, and it would be like, what? Like, what is this? You just don't cry. You just go to sleep. Whereas Honey, it would be like an hour and a half at least of like singing, reading the book, rocking, doing the thing, try to put her down, nope, try again, nope.

And so it's just crazy how even every different kid is different, even your own. And so that's such a cool piece of advice and I'm glad we started with that. And actually, I think I saw somewhere that you said you were worried to have any kids at all, or maybe you didn't even wanna have kids. So talk a little bit about that shift in your heart from going to not wanting to have any kids at all, or maybe didn't even wanna have kids. So talk a little bit about that shift in your heart

from going to not wanting to have kids to now being pregnant with your second. Yes, so I was, it was in the heat of COVID, 2020, and Hunter and I had been together for a long time. We were high school sweethearts, married right after high school. So we wanted time, I guess, for ourselves. And you think, well, you already had time, but it's so different.

And I think just being in the world, seeing everything, it was scary. I'm like, how do you raise kids in this world? How? And I know know now looking back, it was really the enemy just putting that on me. And I got advice back then saying, you know, if you take the light out of the world, there's not gonna be any light. And so as a Christian, and I had to really pray on that

because I knew it'd be my responsibility to raise a child in this world, and how the heck do you do that? Right, be a good disciple and raise tiny disciples. And so I just had to pray about that. And it really, it was God, because my heart was so sure that I didn't want kids, because I was terrified.

And so in Hunter 2, we were on the same page, and that's another cool thing about Hunter 2. because my heart was so sure that I didn't want kids because I was terrified. And so in Hunter too, we were on the same page and that's another cool thing about how I feel like it just aligned because our hearts changed at the same time. And so COVID happened. And so then in the midst of chaos and think, then you'd be like, well, no wonder you didn't wanna have kids, but we didn't want kids before that, but then that happened. And so in the midst of the chaos,

we had such a peace about it. And that's how I know it was from God, because from the world, you're like, you really shouldn't want kids now because you don't know what's gonna happen. And I don't know, just over time, it was like this one specific month, we were just in prayer, I was fasting about it,

and I just had this shift, it was just a piece, it was so unexplainable, and I'm like, it's okay, because he, she is gonna be his before he, she is mine. And yes, it's a great responsibility to raise a tiny disciple, you could say, but ultimately, as long as I'm trying my best, and doing my best, and praying over their life, and doing the best I can do, God's got them.

And God's gonna take the lead because, and that just took pressure off of me. And to know that I don't wanna take light out of the world if I can bring it into the world, to share more about Jesus and all of that. And, you know, and I'm still working through that process. Me and Hunter talk about all the time, like, okay, now every milestone, she's two now, she's three,

and we can see she's getting older, getting more of a personality. And you think about the future and you hope and pray that she still loves Jesus and will always love Jesus. Yeah. And so those conversations are still had like, okay, how do we do this? How do we be a disciple to her and then him? And so yeah, but ultimately it was just a piece we had and we're just trusting Him to

do what He wants with their life. Yeah. And we can only pray that we're doing the best job we can so good I'm so thankful. We're talking about this because One time in a podcast. I think I was Interviewing or actually maybe just conversation with my mom I can't remember because it was a sisters and friends episode and I said something along these lines of like You know, I was worried to have kids but like your kids will be the light of the world

And I kind of said it's similar to what you're saying. And it's one of our most like viewed reels on Instagram from this podcast, because so many moms struggle with this thought of like, I'm so afraid to raise kids in this dark world. But as Christians, like our response to that is this idea of like, no, you are called to be the light of the world. I love how you said like, I don't wanna take light out. I wanna bring light in. And we need more light and more disciples of Christ. And it's really cool cause I've been, I was reading John 17 and I literally wish

I had my Bible with me right now. Oh my gosh. I literally do have a Bible. It's right beside me. Amazing. Listen, I love John. We did a, I did a deep dive in John a few months ago and it was so eye-opening.

So good. So good. Oh my gosh, it's so good. If you're listening to this podcast and you haven't read John or haven't read it in a while, I highly suggest going to read it again. But John 17 is an amazing part of scripture because it's Jesus praying and it's Jesus praying for

himself, Jesus praying for his disciples. It's extremely powerful. But let me find exactly where I'm going because literally I can't even believe I had a Bible right beside me. This is so perfect. So if you know me at all, if you listen to this podcast, you know that the Bible holds such a significant place in my life. I'm so thankful for the scripture. I cling to it in every season of my life, and I truly can't imagine not having a Bible in my own language. But my partners at Crew know that that's a reality for Christians all over the world

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I'm not praying that you take them out of the world, but that you protect them from the evil one. They are not of the world just as I am not of the world. Sanctify them by your truth. Your word is the truth." And I love that so much. And I thought about that with our kids, that Jesus is praying and he's saying, you know,

he's kind of, he's talking about the hatred in the world, the bad things of the world, I'm not of this world, all these different things. And he prays that his joy would be completed in us. He prays that we would know the truth, but he also says, I'm not praying that you take them out of the world, but that you protect them from the evil one as they're in the world.

And then he goes on and he prays for us to know how much the Father loves us. He prays for us. He literally says, I pray for the generations to come, you know, who are gonna believe this word. And it's just like so amazing because it's a beautiful thing as a mom and as a dad to pray these things over your kids.

You should be praying these things over your kid. It is scary to live in this world, but even Jesus is saying as a son of God who was sent into a world that is evil, that was going to hate him, God as a father had to allow his son to go through that, trusting that what his son was going to accomplish in the world as the light of the world was actually gonna give us the path of eternal life. And so in the same way, we're sent in the world to be a light of the world and to give people the good news of Christ and this good news

that you can have eternal life. And I just love that Jesus has literally prayed for us that we would have joy in the midst literally prayed for us, that we would have joy in the midst of the whole thing, that we would know the truth, that we would know the love of God and that we would stay in it even though the world's not going to understand us, even though it's going to be hard things, but that we would stay in it so that we would be that light. And so I just love that we're talking about this because I'm like, man. It's comforting. It's so comforting because it's like,

this is not like a new thing that like people are scared as believers to be in the world. Jesus is literally straight up saying like, this is a dark place. Like the evil one is here, but his response to that was not take us, it was God be with us. God strengthen us. God give us joy in the midst of it. God give us

an anchor in your truth. God give us the understanding of your love. And God keep us here but protect us from the evil one. So that's your prayer for your children that they would be protected from the evil one. As they're in a world that is not going to understand the beliefs that they have, God anchor them in the truth, you know, give them a joy that's complete. Help them to understand what it means to be loved by you and help them to understand that you knew them before the foundation of the world began, which is all the things that Jesus was praying. So it's such a cool thing to discuss because it's not something that we just have to like encourage ourselves with by like these loose words.

It's like, no, this is literally in the Bible. Yes. And like Jesus was how you said, like Jesus was sent into the world and it already was such a dark place even then. Yes. And I feel like I find myself saying, it's just getting worse and worse.

And I feel like every generation is saying that. Yeah. But obviously having social media and all that doesn't help because it's like blasted out there. So you're like, whoa, it feels like a lot worse than it used to be. But the stories in the Bible, I mean, it's always been so corrupt and sinful and evil.

And that's because the enemy is real. And so that's comforting too, when I think about Godson and his son, his son was faced with what we're faced with today and to some degree or the other, and that his dad protected him through it all and in the world, but not of the world. And so that is, yes, I'm so glad we're talking about that

because that brings me a comfort because it's so easy for me to start. I'll be good for a few days and like, I'm just Lord protector. You can feel joy even if things feel like they're going wrong. Yeah. But to know that I think pregnancy brain.

So sorry. I just want to tell you that completely. One of my best friends is on the podcast. Her name is lady when she was pregnant and this happened to her like four times she'd be like Literally filming on my podcast I've had guests come on and we have to I've just told my producer I'm like, I'm so sorry. I need we cut that When I was the same way when I was pregnant It wasn't as much of the pregnancy brain that got me on the podcast.

I could not breathe because it was mainly Honey's, my pregnancy with Honey. Her butt was in my rib cage, and I would have to have like stretch breaks. I'd be like, I am so sorry, but I can't read, so I'd be like, ugh. You know? Yes. I know.

But I keep moving a little bit to get comfortable. It's just so right there. It's just a thing. Pregnancy, hosting a podcast or being on a podcast during pregnancy is a very vulnerable thing. I know. I literally told Hunter, I'm like, please pray for me that I have better brain today. Oh my gosh.

I kind of love it though, because it's like, that's so real. And that's what you do with your closest friends. You have these like deep conversations and then like two seconds later, you're like dying laughing because you know, you forgot everything you were just about to say. Yeah. So, so sorry.

I know that was so, it was such a deep thought too. Anyways, basically just that Jesus has gone before us. He has been through all these things that I love that he can say, it's okay, I've been there. Yeah. You're gonna be good. Yeah, and I love that like, actually, like the worst thing happened and it's still good. You know what I mean?

Like he died, like he was crucified, but then he's like, I'll hold the power, you know, and the keys to the grave. So he resurrected. And so that's what he can say, like truly, you know, you're gonna face trials in many times, but take heart, I've overcome the world. So it's like with your kids, you can know,

hey, Jesus didn't say it's gonna be perfect for them. I'm not resting in the fact that their life's gonna be perfect, because that's a lie. Like I'm resting in the fact that even when their life is not perfect, that Jesus has overcome the world and that their hope is anchored to something that is beyond this world and into eternity. And our home and our hope is in that.

And so I think that gives you a piece too, because I don't like fluff, you know? I'm like, give me the truth. Like, don't tell me everything's gonna be okay if it's not. Tell me that even when it's not gonna be okay, God's gonna be with me. Give me the truth of the matter. And so, but it's cool though,

because even like how you said, we're trying to raise little disciples and there's like pressure in that. But I was reading this book. This is an intense book, but it's really good. It's called Tortured for Christ. And it's about this couple and they lived in a communist country.

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But he actually believed in God so much because he saw the extreme conviction his parents had in their faith. And so it was really cool because at the end of the book, the mom was talking about her kid and she was talking about, you know, even in a communist country where he's going to school and he's getting taught like all these things opposite from his faith. She said, I didn't worry about sending him to school because I knew his greatest influence is in our home as me and his dad have literally given our lives for this message of Christ. You know, to be honest, I don't take a ton of supplements.

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It's just being who you are. And actually last night, Honey was preaching to our dog. She literally was preaching to Cabo, but she didn't know what she was saying. She said, Cabo, you are beautiful. And she said, and your God is beautiful. And she was, and it was just so funny. I'm like, that's good. I said, that was a good word, honey. That was very inspiring. But I love that y'all are praying those prayers over your family. So take us back,

because you said you and your husband got married pretty young, out of high school. How did you and your husband meet and how did y'all start dating? Gosh, okay. So end of eighth grade, my sister's then boyfriend rode dirt bikes and he rode dirt bikes with Hunter.

And so it was we met through them mutually and we started dating in the eighth grade, going into summer of high school, went to separate high schools. So at that age, it was just more of a. Cheesy boyfriend girlfriend thing. It's not like we were set out to like, OK, we're going to start dating to get married. Our minds weren't there yet. But it, so we started dating and quickly,

things that I was going through in my life, I could see that Hunter was brought into my life at that time, almost as I say, it protected me from a lot of other things. I could, I can see how I could have went down a different path than what I did if it weren't for Hunter being placed in my life when he was. And there's so much,

there's so much many different stories to all that. But so dated in high school, it got really serious quick, more so we were just best friends. And it was almost an escape from what I was going through. And so we just got to hang out a lot and all that. About junior year is when it flipped. And we're like, okay, if we want to be married one day, we have to change our priorities because we were putting each other first. And we started going to youth group and each other first. And we started going to youth group and got really involved, deepened our relationship with Jesus. Quickly after we graduated high school, we got engaged.

Like we knew right away. I think being together that long, we just knew and it just was so God ordained in that. And it's so hard to say because we were so young. And so even when young people ask me, I'm just like, yes, you know, and you know, but it's we also sought counsel. We sought wisdom. And it's not like people were telling us not to do it. I feel like a lot of the people who knew us, they were in support of it. And so that reassured me like, OK, it's we're not just going by our flesh. And they're like, let's get married young.

Um, so we get married young. So we got married a year after high school and yeah. That's so sweet. I heard somewhere you telling about y'all getting together and I think it's so funny because tell about just like the text message you sent because I think that's hilarious. Oh my gosh, yes, Facebook. I didn't have an iPhone then because I think that's hilarious. Oh my gosh. Yes. Facebook. I didn't have an iPhone. Facebook. That was it.

Yes. It was Facebook. So my sister, so silly. I literally asked her, I was like, I want a boyfriend. I literally remember saying that. I want a boyfriend. Do you know anybody? I asked her boyfriend and he was like, actually I do. I ride dirt bikes with this guy. And I'm like, okay Let me go look about so literally walked into the other room was looking on Facebook I was already friends with him and I thought he was cute. So I unfriended him and then sent him a friend a new friend request and

Then a few days later. I don't know what I mean I'm glad I did now because I mean I married to him, but I got his number and I I mean, I'm glad I did now because I mean, I married to him, but I got his number and I'm like, I'm not going to text him. I just want his number in case he texts me. I'll know it's him. And because I know that my sister's boyfriend was like speaking into his ear about me. So I ended up texting him and I just said, hey, and then he said, who is this? And I just didn't apply. Because I'm like, oh, Leah looks so desperate. I unfurled him on Facebook and now I send him a text message. A few days later, I replied, because he never said anything

back. And I was just like, hey, this is Devin. Somebody gave me this number and told me to text, who is this? And that started it. That's hilarious. And he didn't know that story until way later after we started dating. That is so funny.

I love it so much because I always say this, I think people put so much pressure on like, oh, the guy has to pursue, the guy has to pursue, the guy has to pursue. And I agree. I think that the guy should pursue for sure. But I think that as women, you can give someone the confidence to pursue you.

Hey, I like you, you know? And I just love that you're like, you know, I just wanna make sure he sees me over here. Let me just resend that friend request. Let me just send a little hate, you know? I mean, it definitely worked because he said he saw the friend request and saw my profile picture and he thought I was cute.

But he did say, I thought I was already friends with her. That is so funny. Hey, it all worked out perfect. For sure. I like how you said in your junior year, you all had this moment where you had to like shift your priorities because you are putting each other first. There's a lot of people on this podcast who are new to Christianity or just the idea of like godly dating

or godly marriage and what that looks like to put God in your marriage. I think it's interesting because y'all are, I think were believers before this, but then started dating and had this moment where you're like, okay, we need to shift some things. So what did that look like? How did y'all recognize that y'all

are putting each other first and what was the importance for y'all to make sure that God was first in your relationship? Yeah So when we started dating, like I said, it was like I felt safe It was almost my safety net I could kind of escape reality to go hang out with him hang out with his family do whatever and I will say because I grew up Christian and he grew up knowing God, but he wasn't raised in church like I was.

And so at that age, easily we could have fallen into the temptation to like romance, you know what I mean? And it was more of a scary thing. So we did save ourselves for marriage, but it started out of fear of just not getting pregnant, not wanting to do the wrong thing because I was such a good girl, didn't want to disappoint my parents and all that. And there was definitely temptations there. And we, the shift, it's almost like I felt, so the few

years we dated and God was not first, it ended up feeling empty. It wasn't a, even though we loved each other and loved being in a relationship with each other, it wasn't fulfilling us, our cup. And that's because it can't. And so I realized a lot of toxic tendencies are coming into the relationship, just jealousy, whatever you want to call it, because God was absent. And so there was a pivotal moment, it was around junior year, when he was struggling with his own thing and I was having my own struggles. And so it was almost like, okay, we're either gonna end it and break up

and just go our separate ways. Or if this is something, if we truly feel like we wanna be together, then something's gotta change. And it was, we wanted, we chose each other. We were like, okay, well, we wanna be together, then something's got to change. And it was, we wanted, we chose each other. We were like, okay, well, we want to be together, but what's, what's wrong? Like, what is not aligned? And it was Jesus. He was not first. We had made each other our own gods. So of course, we disappointed each other a lot. All those worldly fill-ins were coming in. And we,

All those worldly fill-ins were coming in and we, at that point, I also had learned like, okay, my, of saving ourselves from marriage shifted from fear to, no, this is because it's a gift and it is such a beautiful thing inside of marriage. And I wanted that and I had that desire to keep that, but the way we were going, I could, we were almost there. It's like there was a line and we, it's like, just it's so clear.

It was like, okay, we choose Jesus or we don't choose each other and it's just gonna be a downfall. And so we chose Jesus. And so we got involved in church. We went on like a mission trip and everything together, but it was still so individual. Yeah. Because we know that our relationship with God had to be prioritized individually, and

then that would bring us closer. And it did. And it was such, I'm just so thankful that that was evident to us at that point that we needed God first. And doing that before marriage really helped us in marriage. And so that is something we always look back on, even though we were young, we were in high school. But it was such a big moment in our lives of, wow, we can really see what happens if God's not first. And that stays true in our dating life, in our lives of, wow, we can really see what happens if God's not first. And that stays true in our dating life, in our marriage. If God's not first,

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I went to give into the flesh and live according to my own will and probably gonna go downhill from here. And when I say downhill, that doesn't mean that you won't still, by world standards, be successful or do your thing, but just you might not have peace. You might not have a true joy. The cup is not gonna be full, like you said, or I'm gonna choose Jesus.

And no matter what life looks like, I'm gonna be sustained by grace through faith. life looks like, I'm going to be sustained by grace through faith. And so it's cool that you all had that moment together in your lives. And so now, you all both have that back as an anchor point for you guys individually and each other, which is just really sweet and really special. And I think it's cool just hearing your story because it's a little bit similar to the idea of having kids where it starts with this fear-based mentality, and then switches to this, like, but God,

I trust you at your word. Yes. God, I trust your plan is greater. Which is so cool, because when God would come to people in the Old Testament, and he would call them to something, he would normally start out the conversation by saying, do not be afraid. And the reason I think he always said that is because he knows we're gonna be afraid.

Is because he knows that the situation we're in is scary. Because in each person's life, he would say, don't be afraid. He's talking to people who are in very scary scenarios. But then he would follow up this advice, do not be afraid, with a promise and an anchor that I will be with you and this is what I'm going to lead you in. And then the person would be able to say like, okay, like I'm with you,

you know, and so it's cool because in our lives, it's almost the same thing where God calls you to something and in the midst of that, you're afraid you're dealing with the fear of it feeling bigger than who you are, whatever it is. And then you have this realization that he's calling me, he'll be with me, and this is his plan. And so that's what I want, actually, more than than my own will. And so it's just really cool to see that thread in your story. So tell me about whenever y'all went from, you know, just being married. Do you live in Alabama? Is that right? Yes. So like

being married, Alabama, country, country kids, pandemic happens, having a baby, all this stuff, to deciding to share your life with the internet. How did that happen? What was the decision like in that process? Yes, so same year, I feel like the same time that God revealed to us like, or gave a peace over us, like, it's okay. You know, this is the time to start trying to have kids. And that same season, it was hard in a way, looking back, because I'm like, wow, a lot of stuff happened during that time of the peace we felt and an unexplained peace. We were broke. We didn't be reliving paycheck to paycheck. I ended up getting pregnant, and so I quit my job I had.

My job was, I guess you could say I was the breadwinner even though I wasn't making like a ton of money but still I made more than Hunter in that and then so that was a trusting process so I was like okay I feel like I'm supposed to not work right now since I'm pregnant I couldn't wear all that gear I couldn't hardly breathe but so Hunter was a firefighter. He worked a lot of overtime just so I could stay home and never made me feel bad about it. He supported me and all that. And I had always felt like,

I remember praying a lot of times about my future ministry and what that looked like in the workplace. I'm like, where am I gonna work forever? Or what does it look like? I don't feel like I'm gonna be a preacher or anything like that, but what does my ministry look like in the place I'm working? Where am I gonna go?

Am I gonna be a stay at home mom now forever? Just all those questions, but I knew it would be different. I just felt like the call I had on my life was going to look a lot different than what people would expect, I guess. I loved watching YouTube videos back in the day. We were actually on our baby moon. At this time, I was home. I wasn't working.

Hunter was working. But we took off, went to Gatlinburg, Tennessee. And I was like, I think I'm just going to start vlogging. Because I had that desire. I wanted to make YouTube videos more so for memory. So Ivy could look back at those one day. I'd have those. And I feel like that's one of my...

I don't know if I would say gifts, but just desires. I just thought that was fun videoing, editing. I love that kind of stuff. I love being creative. It was like a creative outlet for me. I didn't know what the heck to do, but I got my iPhone. I started video on my iPhone, edited on my iPhone and I posted our first YouTube video.

And I just started blogging a little bit here and there documenting my pregnancy. And it was always something that in the back of my head, I'm like, if this could go somewhere one day where it would help us financially, great. But if not, it's still fun. I did have the hope that I was like, maybe it'll be something, I don't know. And we got a few subscribers, all that.

And then I kind of, I had Ivy and I just was new mom. So I kind of like took a break from it. And then I remember posting our birth vlog, and it got a lot of views. And I'm like, Oh, that kind of just gave me the spark I needed to continue to do it. And be like, Okay, I do enjoy this. And then I started that. And I ended up seeing it just wasn't still going anywhere. And I ended up seeing it just wasn't still going anywhere. And then I never had to talk. But I saw Matt and Abby, they posted a video about how they started YouTube and theirs didn't do good until they got to talk and that helped it. So I was like, well, I guess I'll don't see what that's about.

So I looking back at old videos, if you scroll all the way back, it's kind of embarrassing because I made very, I guess you would say cringy mom content. I did a lot of lip syncing videos, but it was fun for me. Even my mind wasn't set on blowing up or becoming viral. It was still, it was therapeutic for me because I was struggling with postpartum depression. Hunter was working a lot, so he was gone a lot as a firefighter. So for me, it was just like filling that gap and kind of just giving me my. Pink back, I guess, as people say, after you have a baby and. So it was fun.

And then I was posting, I did gain like a few thousand followers just from doing the original content. And then Hunter would be in a little bit. He had to like beg him. He was like, this is so silly. Well, he ended up filming a reaction of his him shaving off his mustache. So it was a complete different content than what I was posting on TikTok. And I ended up posting it because I was like,

what do I have to lose? You know, this is just for fun anyways. Blew up. And so literally went, grew a million followers in a month on TikTok. Oh my gosh. And I'm like, what is this? And little backstory. The months that I was doing TikTok, it started off as just therapeutic, whatever.

In this, I was in my searching, like in a season of waiting and almost seeking. I was in the Word. I was reading just books about like the Deborah Noyning. I love her in the Bible. And I feel like it just spoke over my life. And a few people at the same time were just saying, you're gonna be an influence. You're gonna be an influence to many. I had no idea what that meant now. And I just thought it meant to people around me, because that is, we are all influencers

to everybody we're around. And so, before we blew up on TikTok, I was in a lot of prayer and seeking and like, okay, God, what do you have for my life? What is your plan for me? And I felt then that it was going to be something bigger than I would ever imagine. And something to do with social media, I guess, not to the extent it is, I still didn't know what that looked like. I could just feel like something was about to happen and that he was just like, just trust me and surrender, just surrender it to me.

Almost like I was taking it on my own and searching and trying to make things happen. And he was over and over telling me to surrender it. And I remember telling Hunter, like we were really struggling at this point financially, and I was just like, it's going to be okay. I was like, I can feel it. Something's going to happen.

Something's happening soon, more so spiritually than financially, but that we would be okay. And I was like, I'm just supposed to surrender. I was like, but I don't really know what that looks like because I feel like I'm already I'm doing all the things. I'm in prayer. I'm in the Word. I'm all of the things that you would think mean surrender. And so the day before our video went viral,

I was at a stop sign. And at this point, it had been weeks of me just being like, God, what do you mean? What do you mean, surrender? I feel like I'm doing it. And I was at a stop sign and clear as day, he was like, but have you even asked me to bless it? And I was like, no, I have not.

And so still at the same stop sign, nobody was behind me or anything. I was like, okay, God, I was like, if you will just take this platform, do whatever you want to do with it, grow it how you wanna grow, I will give all glory to you. Because I felt like that was what I was supposed to ask him for and what he was meaning.

And then after that, it was like, I just had a peace and all the worry about figuring out what we were gonna do next and all this was gone. And then the next day I woke up, our video had went viral and I'm like, is that what you meant? Because I had no idea. Was that it? And yes.

And so that is why to this day, I give all glory to God and just for our platforms. And I started off at first being like, okay, this means I need to get on there and preach. So I would do my devotions on there at least once a week or whatever. And then at that point, I feel like I was just doing it to keep up and for show,

like showing like I'm a Christian, don't put me in another category like this is me. And it became almost set up like I was, I would hurry go through my morning devotion just so I could share it. And from that, he was like, it's okay, they will know you by my fruit, by your fruit. And so that is why I'm not, our content isn't me preaching. We talk about Jesus openly like on our podcast and YouTube and all that. And if, you know, I feel like people can see

that something's different about us just in the way our marriage is and how to, a healthy, happy marriage and all of that, but sorry, that I said way too much. I probably like went past the question. No, you didn't. That was like so cool to, honestly, it was so cool to hear all of that and how it started. And then also just like the process

of how you prayed through that, because I think it's so important that we do have people pursuing social media as like a place of, you know, a place of actual influence. And I actually have a sign up here that says, be an influencer worth following. And I always talk about that. Like everyone does have influence for sure. Everyone does. Everyone is an influencer because if you have anyone following you and not just on social media, just in life, then you're influencing them. So you have to take that seriously and you have to take responsibility in that. But also I think that sometimes there's this stigma against like

social media or being an influencer, whatever that is, but it's like, no, we need to be in the spaces again as a light. And that doesn't mean that it all has to be like you preaching or it doesn't always have to be like explicitly as like opening up the word and reading it. People will know you by the fruit and also like you're filled with the spirit of God. And so it overflows into who you are, just even by the fruit on your life, which if you're like, what's fruit?

You're sitting here listening. So the fruit of the spirit is, you know, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness, self-control, all these things. And so you think about that. When you're a person on social media, who's walking in true joy,

who has peace that surpasses understanding, who is rooted and anchored in love and their identity as a daughter or a son of Christ, who has self-control in areas, who's gentle, who's kind. People go, what is this? Who is this person? How do you have an anchor in your identity? How do you know that you're loved? How do you have a peace in this chaotic world? How do you have such a true joy? How do you have self-control to resist the temptations in your life? How are you so gentle? How are you so kind? How are you faithful to this God?"

And then you get to say, man, it's the fruit of who God is. This is what it's like to be in relationship with Jesus, and that is influencing people for the better. And so, yes, people know you by that fruit. That's all over your life. People see that. And it's interesting because even in my life, people see that. And it's interesting, because even in my life, like since, so my life kind of took off whenever I was on Dancing with the Stars,

and it's very similar, like within a month, gained a million followers, everything was crazy. That was 10 years ago, which is so crazy. Wow. Since then, at the time, I wasn't doing any preaching or anything like that when I was on Dancing with the Stars, so I kind of went with the more influencer,

E. Rao and all this different stuff. Then, actually super similar, it's really weird. I kind of had this moment where God, like I had to surrender, like same thing. And I was really wanting God to kind of take this fame, I guess, or influence in fame away, which is interesting, because I was just so overwhelmed by it and I really wanted to just do a more normal thing.

I was like, I just kinda wanna go to school and I was playing sports at the time. I was in high school, so I just wanted to be normal. And so I was asking God to take it away. And then I was like, okay, well, if you're not gonna take it away, show me how to use it. Show me God to take it away. And then I was like, okay, well, if you're not going to take it away, like show me how to use it, you know, like show me what to do in it. And so I responded to this altar call and the Lord gave me this vision.

It was the first time I ever had got a vision. First the Lord said, I'm not calling you to be famous, but I'm calling you to be a sister and a friend to those who don't have one. That has stuck with me for 10 years now and everything I do, I always, I have a sisters and friends podcast, a L.O. sister conference, everything is sister and friend. And then the second thing God showed me in that moment was a picture of Instagram. And the followers kept going up and up and up and up. And I was going, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm asking for that to be taken away. And then he said, not your name, but mine.

And I like remember seeing it visually, like it was not me gaining followers. It was like my influence bringing him followers. You know what I mean? Which is like very interesting. And I remember that changed everything for me. And so I started using my influence to be a sister and a friend to those who don't have one.

I started preaching, I started sharing the Bible, I started being myself. I do dance videos, I've done it for 10 years. And you know what's crazy? Like nowadays, sometimes I get hate on doing dance videos because people are like, oh, you're a preacher or whatever. Or then I'll have people on the podcast who aren't necessarily like Christian or pastors.

And people are like, oh, like you shouldn't have that or whatever. And I'm like, look, everything I do is gonna be, if you wanna say it's a Christian thing, right, but everything I do is to bring God glory and I'm a follower of Christ. Like that is who I am, that is what I do. But I believe that God, like it's not necessarily like what you're doing,

it's not because I'm preaching or have the Bible. It's like, it's who I am in Him. So even when I'm dancing, I'm glorifying Him. Even when I'm having conversations with people who are different than me, we're glorifying Him and bringing His name. And so I love that you said you're kind of fighting that, like being put in a category in a box.

I felt the same way. I'm like, don't put me in that box, you know? Because again, like I don't think God puts us in that box. I think he makes us original. And I think through our originality, there's so much room to grow and be all that he created you to be. And so I don't think we should put ourselves

in this like box of religion, you know? And so anyways, this is kind of like messy conversation, but I just, I loved hearing your story. I think it's absolutely super inspiring. And I just think about people listening to this podcast who are thinking about pursuing social media as a career, or maybe they're in that stage right now where their TikToks are cringing and they're like,

I know it's cringe. I know people don't like it, but I'm having fun. And like, that's great. If it's fun for you, if it's like brings you joy, and at the end of the day, you're just like, again, it's helping you through the season. The first dance video, Christian and I did together was actually similar.

I was having a lot of postpartum anxiety and I was struggling one day and I just told Christian, I just need to dance. And we just danced together. And then that kind of started all these like fun videos during COVID that ended up bringing a lot of joy to people. But first it was just for us, you know? And so if you're out there and you're like,

trying to build a following, maybe just take the pressure off yourself to build that. In Psalms 127, it says, unless the Lord builds the house, the labor is labor in vain, eating the bread builds the house, the laborer's labor in vain, eating the bread of anxious toil, but he gives his beloved sleep. And so let God build that house,

but you keep showing up. You keep posting the videos, have fun with it and give it to the Lord. And your story, it's so crazy because we just met, but I feel like I literally could talk to you forever. I know, I know. We have so many similarities too. It's crazy.

It's just really sweet. And actually I just had to point out the stop sign situation real fast because I think that like some of my best prayer time comes in the car. And I love that like you literally just took the time to stop and pray about something and ask the Lord. And I just encourage you listening,

take advice from her story and everything she shared and how she even modeled out praying and what it looks like to go to God to things because so many times we put pressure on ourselves that our morning routine or nighttime or whatever it is, but being in a relationship with God is a 24-7 relationship. It's being at a stop sign and saying,

oh God, I haven't even asked you to bless what I'm doing. I haven't even asked you to be in it. God, there's no one behind me someone stop right here and ask you, you know? So I don't know, just like you mentioned the fruit on your life, even just the way that you talk and what you're saying is an inspiration in and of itself of how you live.

Thank you. So truly I wish we had more time because we talk- I know, I have so much I wanna still talk about, but- I know, I think we're gonna have to do a part two or something because for real, this was so good. I feel like this is like leaving a cliffhanger because there's so much more we can talk about. So we'll have to do that.

Also, just a shout out, if you don't follow her on social media,'ll have to do that. Also just a shout out if you don't follow her on social media, you need to do that right now. If you don't listen to her podcast, salty. You got to go listen to her podcast. She obviously has so much to say and is such a good example and influence to be following. So thank you and your family for sharing your light and life with the world. It's a gift. Thank you so much, Sadie. I just loved this conversation. And yeah, we'll definitely have to do another, have more conversations,

cause I just have more, I'm just like, I love it, I love it. We'll have to make it happen for sure. Well, thank you so much. Thank you. Bye. you