WHOA That's Good Podcast - How These Girls Went Bible | Sadie Robertson Huff & Girls Gone Bible
Episode Date: April 3, 2024If there's anything Sadie loves, it's talking about the Lord and His Word — and who better to join her in that than Arielle Reitsma and Angela Halili, co-hosts of the "GirlsGoneBible" podcast? Ari a...nd Angie share how they both (recently) came to faith in Christ and how their friendship turned into their hugely popular podcast. As Angie says, "I will forever be the weird Jesus girl!" Get ready to be blessed with this one, y'all! http://www.a2platinum.com/whoa — Get 25% off your first purchase when you order online! https://www.covenanteyes.com/sadie — Try Covenant Eyes FREE for 30 days with promo code WHOA. https://drinkag1.com/whoa — Get a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs with your first purchase! - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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What's up? Well, that's good, fam. Happy Wednesday, everybody. I hope you're having a good week, but per usual, it's about to get literally so much better because
you have no idea. Y'all are about to be so hype.
I'm sure you already saw on the name of this podcast
who we have on, but it's everyone's best friends from afar.
We have Angie and Ari from Girls Gone Bible.
Welcome to the Woe That's Good podcast.
Oh, Sadie, we are so grateful to be here.
I just told you off camera a second ago
that coming on Woe That's Good is a r is a right. So grateful and we're so excited.
I know I met you at the gathering and I told Angela, I go,
I feel like I just met an angel. Actually, I'm not kidding.
We talked about it probably for a week afterwards.
Sweetie special, huh?
But you are so special and it's, you know, you're special, just watching you and we've sweet. You have so many people, but you are so special.
You know you're special just watching you, and we've been watching you for a long time,
loving you, adoring you, looking up to you for a long time.
But then meeting you in person, you are so special.
You really are.
So pure and just such an example for this generation, this young generation.
Gosh, that's so sweet.
Y'all are the best, truly.
That means so much. And it's so funny
because the feeling was mutual. I just got in the car with my husband and I said, they
are like the best. I feel like those are the type of people I told him, those are the type
of people you just want to have in your life. They're friends who are like rooted in scripture,
going to encourage you and go to bat for you because when we, when we saw each other, I was kind of opening up about some stuff and y'all were both like defending me.
Like we have been best friends forever.
You don't mess with our girl.
And I was like, where you been all my life?
We literally go, yo, come for Sadie.
We're coming for you.
We are not playing these games.
Protect Sadie at all costs no matter what.
You come for us, but you ain't coming for us.
That was so funny.
Oh my gosh.
I love y'all already.
Y'all are just the best.
I love y'all.
I love y'all.
I love y'all.
I love y'all. I love y'all. I love y what. You come for us, but you ain't coming for us.
That was so funny.
Oh my gosh.
I love y'all already.
Y'all are just the best.
And I can't wait to dive into a full podcast.
And it's so awesome just to shout out what they're doing.
If you haven't heard of Girls Gone Bible,
first of all, you probably aren't even on social media
because y'all are everywhere.
Y'all's clips are getting shared everywhere.
And for the best of reasons,
because there are two girls who love Jesus
and have spent the past however many months
that started the podcast getting the word, the gospel out.
And so relatable, so fun, so real.
And I'm so excited y'all started a podcast
because I've been doing a podcast
for five and a half years now.
And I love podcasting because I feel like, you know, in this world of social media,
where there's like sound bites and clips and this and that, and it's so fleeting and fading,
and then tomorrow is a whole new thing, podcasts are something where you get to sit down
and you get to like intentionally have time to listen and have a conversation
and hear the heart behind things
and actually understand a person.
And you guys being vulnerable enough
to share your hearts with the world
is such a gift and your love for Jesus.
And so I can't wait to dive in,
but for the rite of passage of what that's good,
I always ask everyone the same question
that comes on this podcast to kick us off
and y'all can both answer it.
If you don't know the question I'm gonna ask,
sorry, it hits you hard sometimes, But the question of the WEDSCOMP podcast is what
is some of the best pieces of advice that the two of you have ever been given?
I love that question. You can go first.
You? Are you sure? Okay, so I love this question so much. And obviously, so many different
things can come to mind. But what really hit me and it's something that I heard,
it's kind of a two-parter. It's something that I heard when we first started the podcast.
And the first part is that revival starts with you. Yep. And the second part is that
if you seek revival, you'll get performance. But if you seek Jesus, you'll get revival.
And when we first started the podcast and we stepped into ministry and it was our first time stepping into ministry,
we didn't even really know that that's what we were doing. We just knew that we love Jesus and we wanted to talk about it.
I found myself because I always the closer that I got to Jesus, the more that I loved people.
But coming into ministry, something literally changed within me. Something was
awakened that I didn't even know was in me. Now I really loved people and I really love
God's people. And I really love bringing people to Jesus. Sadie, I love evangelism. I love
teaching. I had no idea what these things even were, but I love it. I have a heart for
it. But even though these things come from, it comes from such a good place and it's pure,
and God sees that, I still can't love these things more than I love Jesus.
It's true.
And so, I kind of found, and you can probably speak to this, I found myself in this tension
of, it's like a dance of having to balance ministry with my own relationship with Jesus,
and that like, he and I's relationship come first.
And because I found myself, the ministry and the people in our audience and our friends, we call them our friends,
they became my life, they took over my life and my heart. But again, I just had, it was a constant thing.
And God was so gracious with me and gently would just be like, this is about me and you right now.
You're studying, you're studying to know me, not to go teach. So we have this whole thing.
And then the second part of it where, you know, if you seek revival, you're going to get performance,
it's not going to be genuine and it's not going to be effective. But if the point is that we're
looking for Jesus and we're bringing people Jesus, revival is going to happen no matter what.
And so that's been our whole thing this whole time is just keeping Jesus truly
and genuinely at the forefront of everything we do and making sure that
we are so solid with Him and just letting our lives
be just a little like to exemplify Him and be a living testimony of
this is what happens when you know Jesus.
It's great.
It's so good.
It's so evident like when you speak,
it's overflow of what He's already doing in you.
And it's so true when revival is happening in you,
it's not that you have to perform,
it just overflows out of you.
It's if it's in you, when you begin to speak,
it says in the word, from the heart
so the mouth shall speak. When I started actually my podcast, I wrote that verse out and put
it in my closet because I'm like, okay, this is really convicting and this is probably
the best accountability I can have for myself because if I'm going to have a microphone
in front of me and I'm going to speak all the time, then from a heart, that's what my
mouth is going to say. And so when you have revival in a heart, that's what my mouth is gonna say.
And so when you have revival in your heart,
the overflow is so beautiful.
And I remember walking through that years ago
where I was like, and I still do,
I mean, I still wrestle with that balance of, you know,
doing the ministry and loving the ministry
and loving the people and loving the thing
and making sure that God's at the forefront.
But I always think about when Jesus had that conversation with Peter in John 21.
And it's after Jesus had returned and Peter and them are out fishing and he comes out
and they know, they recognize it's Jesus and Peter jumps out of the boat and he can't even
get to Jesus fast enough and they're about to have this breakfast together.
And this is before Jesus is about to really call Peter into the ministry that Peter's gonna live out
And he says to Peter before any of that he says do you love me?
He says yes Lord, and he says feed my sheep, and then he says it again. Do you love me? Yes, Lord
Feed my sheep he said again. Do you love me and Peter's frustrated? He's like you already asked me do you love me?
Yes, I love you
And he says okay feed my lambs and he says, because the time's gonna come
where it's gonna get hard.
And I love how before he calls him into ministry,
before he says, go do something for me,
he establishes that he loves him,
that they have a relationship.
And it's the same thing with us in ministry.
Like sometimes you just have to have breakfast with Jesus
and have the moment of like, hey, I love you before I go do anything for you, before I go do the things that are going
to be hard, the things that are going to come at me, the things that are going to make this hard
to do, like because I love you, I'm going to be able to do them. And same thing kind of happened
with Jesus. There's a book called Anonymous. If you haven't read it, you should totally go read it. It's an incredible book. And it's kind of about this idea. And it's
this idea that before you do anything for the Lord, He loves you right where you're at.
And it's even like when Jesus got baptized, before Jesus did any public ministry, you know,
God says like, this is my son whom I love. He's like, I love you before you do anything. And so it's such a good reminder when you're in ministry
to make sure that your love for Jesus,
like far outweighs the love for the ministry
because it's from your love of Jesus
that you're going to do the ministry.
So I love that you share that
because it's super relatable to me.
And I've studied a lot of that because I wrestled with that.
So that's great.
Ari, what about you?
What's your best piece of advice you've been given?
My best piece of advice would be read the Bible and don't just read it, live it.
I was introduced to the Bible about a year ago and when I opened it, for the first time
in my life, my eyes were opened up to the truth.
And those pages gave me hope and they gave me a safety
that I always lacked in my life.
I didn't have that growing up.
And so it says in John 9,
you are truly my disciples
if you remain faithful to my teachings
and you will know the truth and the truth will set you free. And it wasn't until I really laid down my life of everything
I thought I knew and I let the sin die and I stopped living of the world is when I was
set free. And that's when I really got to enjoy the fruits of the Spirit.
Wow.
I was free.
I was set free after that.
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It's so funny because right before y'all, I did another podcast and like the whole podcast,
we talked about that verse.
So that's so cool.
But yes, because we were talking about just in the culture
we live in, you know, everyone saying like,
live your truth, live your truth.
And it's just kind of this fake, this, I guess,
false message of your truth will bring you freedom, your truth set you free. But the whole podcast,
we were like, that's just not true. Because when Jesus said it, like, you will know the truth and
the truth will set you free. The reason it was powerful is because it was true. It was because
it was powerful is because it was true. It was because he is the truth and he has, you know,
the ability to set you free
because he's the only one that overcame death.
So like that's where true hope is found.
So the fact that that was the verse you read
and you were like, yep, like I actually can find freedom
in that is amazing.
And one of the things I love about y'all is that, you know,
you just shared, you started reading the Bible a year ago, and you guys, you came to the Lord, and then you're like,
we got to tell people about this. And I think a lot of people, they have this fear that like,
they have to have it all figured out before they start the thing, you know? Like, I remember when
I started preaching feeling like so unqualified, because I'm like, I don't know the word.
I don't feel like I know it enough.
Like I didn't go to school for this.
I didn't go to theology school or whatever.
And I still face that fear sometimes.
Like I passion this year when I was overviewing the Bible,
I just felt like, oh, I'm the worst person to do this.
Like everyone else preaching is like an actual pastor
and like went to school for this.
And I just love the word and I read the word
and then I share what I read and I love.
And I feel like y'all are the same way.
How did you guys overcome that fear
of feeling like you had to get to a certain point
to start a podcast and how did you just do it?
You go ahead.
I mean, it's been, first of all, I saw, I was at Passion
and I heard your message and it was absolutely life-changing.
It was one of the most impressive things that I have ever seen in my life and you should
be so proud of yourself.
If you're not qualified, we're all doomed.
Truly unbelievable.
You are.
So it's been such a crazy journey, Sadie, just like Ari was saying.
Everything that we do is
really based on the fact, like every single episode, we have this whole segment where we just beg
people to start reading the Bible. And we're like, please do not rely on this podcast or other
podcasts. Open it up yourself. That's what's going to change your life. And the truth, like you said,
I love what you said, because we talk about it all the time, the whole my truth thing, because what is truth if it's subjective, then there's
no truth.
Yeah.
You know, so when we first started the podcast, we I mean, I guess we would kind of have to
go back to the very beginning, because, you know, we've had a whole evolution in our own
lives.
It's been a long journey. I guess I can
start with saying, so I started reading the Bible. I've been a Christian my whole life. I grew up
Catholic. My mom, I would describe her as a spirit-filled Catholic. She loves Jesus so much. Her mom
loved Jesus so much. My mom grew up in communist Albania where they weren't even allowed to be
openly Catholic.
So she didn't read a Bible until she was like 24 years old, I think, for the first time.
But when her whole life loving Jesus still, she had the Spirit of God within her.
She just, she didn't know the word.
And so I went throughout my life loving Jesus so much, never opened a Bible.
I didn't know what it said. loving Jesus so much, never opened a Bible.
I didn't know what it said.
I didn't know, I loved Jesus so much,
but it didn't really affect the way I lived my life.
I was not rooted in truth.
I wasn't rooted.
I knew what, you know, some of, I knew about sin.
I knew some things that it said to do and not to do,
but I just, I thought that God loved me
and I could just do whatever I want.
You know, that's just the way I live my life.
And I didn't, I was not in an environment
where biblical values were taught.
So I, again, loved Jesus.
I would go to church all the time,
a really prayerful person my whole life.
But then when I got into my twenties,
I moved to LA when I was 18. When I got into my
20s, I developed horrific anxiety, like very, very bad panic attacks. I would describe it as like,
I was living in a 24-hour state of heightened anxiety. It got so, so bad that I got to the
point where, I mean, I tried medication, I tried meditation, I tried everything.
I eventually started to self-medicate with alcohol because it was the only thing that
I knew to do and it's the only thing that made me feel better.
And so when this is all happening, I mean, if anybody has ever drank alcohol, you know
that it just will perpetuate the vicious cycle of anxiety.
It makes you feel better for a second and then you end up feeling a million times worse
and it just went on for such a long time.
God then put somebody in my family's life.
He's my pastor in Florida.
His name is Socrates.
He's a 70-year-old man who loves Jesus so much.
And the first time I ever met him, he told me, he was like,
you're gonna talk to millions of people about Jesus and you're gonna do this and that. And I was like,
okay, I don't know if you're talking to the right person. And then, but he just, he called me every
single day and I opened up to him about what I was dealing with, the alcohol, the anxiety, and he
prayed for me every single day for probably six months.
And my mom would pray for me every single day.
I would be having panic attacks, and I would call my mom
all the way from LA to Florida, and she would just be yelling,
praying for me on the phone.
Like, it was a really, really tough time.
But then I think it was, you know, the effects of so many prayers from so many different
people on my life. Thanksgiving 2019, I put the alcohol down and I never picked it back up again.
That's the day I like to describe that I got saved because I don't, I didn't even know
necessarily what happened. I did not know that God stepped in on my behalf and delivered me from this
thing supernaturally because it, I think sometimes God will God stepped in on my behalf and delivered me from this thing supernaturally
because I think sometimes God will work with you
on some things and you lay it down together.
I think sometimes he just has to come rescue you.
And he stepped in and he saved my life, truly saved my life.
And then I went about a year,
probably still dealing with anxiety,
but then over time Socrates, he would call me
and just begged me to read the Bible.
And I'd be like, Socrates, I just need you to pray
that this anxiety goes away.
He's like, if you read the Bible, the anxiety will go away.
And I was like, that's weird.
That doesn't make any sense.
That words on a page are so alive and they're so powerful
that they'll actually do something to you supernaturally.
And so I, you know, over time Socrates started
teaching me about the authority that I have through Jesus, about the, you know,
about spiritual warfare, about how these things are psychological but they're
also spiritual and these are all things that you can pray for and pray against.
Long story long, I start praying for myself for the first time. I start just declaring things over myself.
I start just really coming out of agreement with anxiety and all the things that I was dealing with.
And then when I was 25, probably two and a half years ago, I walked into a non-denominational church for the first time.
It was Mosaic, actually Oh, yeah. Yeah. And then
I look up at the screen and I see scripture from the book of John. And I remember I'll
never forget the way that I like it's as if I read the scripture and I saw Jesus and I
made the correlation of like, that's, that's literally Jesus right there. Like those words
are Jesus. And then so I go home, I open the Bible
for the first time, I start reading John Sadie. It was over. I will never go back. I will forever
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Come on, that's a good place to start to, John. That's one of my favorite books,
and I just love that. I love how your story, I think for so many people we're searching for
something to help us get through the anxiety, get through the alcohol, get through the thing.
And like you said, you had tried meditation, you had tried medication, you tried all of it,
and then it comes down to the nitty gritty of have you prayed, have you tried medication, you tried all of it, and then it comes down
to the nitty-gritty of, have you prayed?
Have you read?
Have you surrounded yourself with mentors and a mom who understands what you're going
through, who's going to pray alongside of you and go to war with you?
Have you opened up?
And I think so many times it's like Jesus is our last resort when He is the first and only place that you truly find the freedom.
Not that you can't also find, you know, help through medication and you can find help through meditation.
You can find help through it and that's not a bad thing, but that's not where you find true healing.
That's not where you find the true freedom.
And so, yes, you know, do what you need to do in those moments.
But at the end of the day, like if you want to find freedom, I love how you point straight
to where the freedom is found and just making that personal.
Like, these words, they're active and alive because they were spoken from a God who is
active and alive, like who's alive today.
So that's why they still hold weight and hold power. And I just, I love your story so much. That's so, so powerful. I want to have so many questions for
the both of you. All right. Do you want to share a little bit about your background and your story?
What led you to, you know, starting to read your Bible a year ago? Yeah, of course. Um,
well, a little backstory on me. I have a little bit of an opposite story. I didn't know who God was at all. I
mean, I grew up Catholic, but I had no idea about Him or I didn't grow up in a household
of faith. I would say that I had to grow up really fast. My mother, she suffered a lot
in her heart, and so I had to raise my sister and my dad raised me.
I grew up around a lot of drugs and alcohol.
And so I always looked at how I grew up
and I always said, I wanna be everything but this.
And so I did the opposite of what I saw.
So I said, I don't wanna be mentally stuck.
I don't wanna revert to drugs and alcohol.
And so I grew up super fast.
I raised my sister.
I wanted to give her the best life that I could.
And I moved out of my hometown at a very young age
and moved to LA.
I would describe the way I lived my life
was on my own might and my own strength.
And when you grow up like that, it's hard.
And it's, I would say comparable to living in hell.
And I don't know if you've ever, if you know this,
but like that feeling of just always being in fight or flight,
having just knots in your stomach.
And just, I was just always in a panic and fear
because that's what I watched growing up.
I didn't know faith.
I didn't know we had a God that we could lean on
and that would help us and protect us.
So growing up, I always saw,
well, just keep your head down and keep going.
We'll just get over it.
If something happens, we have to worry and struggle. And so that's
all I saw. And so when I was on my own, I just kind of was just trucking through life
and you know, I dealt with unworthiness and overbearing thoughts. And but I really just
did my best to get through and to make something of myself.
And I just wanted, I just again wanted to be everything I wasn't growing, I saw that
was growing up. And so, fast track, I was in a three and a half year relationship. And
it was a little, it was after COVID. And I would say that my career was my life.
I again, just wanted to be something.
And I loved this person with all my heart.
And I trusted this person with all my heart.
And I had my faith in it.
And I also had my faith in my career.
And it ended.
And it ended really abruptly.
And at the same time, I lost the relationship
that I felt so safe in and I was so sure about,
I had lost my career.
And on top of that, I was experiencing
a ton of other losses.
And so when you have your faith and identity into something
and then it gets ripped from you,
I had been through so much in my life,
but this broke me.
Like I was, I can't even quite describe to you
how broken I was.
It was disassociation.
It was, when I think about it, I still
can remember the exact, exactly what happened. Like I just remember being in
my room in fetal position and my hands were over my head and I would just be
rocking back and forth and I was just like, please, I get these thoughts out of
my head. Like they were overbearing so bad. My emotional pain was so severe that it became physical.
I remember laying in my shower
and the water was just beating down on my head
and I would just lay there for hours, just disassociated.
And I tried everything.
I tried the lucky rock.
I tried the meditations.
The lucky rock. I tried everything. I mean, I was desperate.
I was hungry. I needed help. And no one could get through to me. I mean, my friends back
at home, all of my friends in LA had moved away. So I was in this isolation just by myself. And my family was just like, I don't know.
I don't know if you're going to come out of this.
And I'll never forget it.
I was, I had an eat.
I couldn't eat.
I couldn't process food.
I just, I couldn't function.
The thing is, is when your heart is so sick,
your whole system shuts down.
It's just, the only way I can describe it is I was dead
just trying to survive. I was dead. And so I was driving one day and I saw this little church by
my house and I was so frail and I was just so dead. And I just just like I saw it and I don't know what what made me pull in but
I did and I pulled into this church and I just I walked in I'll never forget it no one was in there
and I just fell to my knees and I looked up and I just was like
God help me I didn't even know what I was saying.
I didn't even, things were coming out of me
that I had never shared with anyone.
But in that moment, I had felt this love
that no one has ever provided me for me.
A safety, like it was like,
a parent had took me in his
arms and made me feel safe. And I didn't have that. I didn't I
never felt safe. And he made me feel so safe to just bleed out
everything. Because my whole life I had to be tough, I had to
be strong, I had to be the parent. And so I couldn't ever feel.
And so for that for the first time, I was able to just get on my hands and knees and
just feel and share and say, God, I need you. I don't even know what I'm saying. I don't
even know who you are. But can you help me? Because I don't think I'm gonna make it. I feel like I'm gonna die and I'm scared.
I am desperate.
And yeah, it was like,
it was one of those moments that you can't explain.
It was one of those supernatural moments that it was God.
It was, and so I left there that day
and I just remember being like,
what was that?
And so it was about five months of still living in hell,
but I knew I wasn't going through that hell alone.
I knew I had a father that was walking beside me through it.
And so I could walk, so I wasn't so easily
shaken by it. I was able to, you know what it was? When I left there, I wasn't like going
by my own mind. I became obsessed with what just happened to me in that church. And so
I remember it. I was just like, I was looking up sermons
and I would just watch sermons all day and I just wanted to know everything.
Yeah.
I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe what I had just experienced. And then I was
going to church and I wasn't so tough anymore. I was able to let my guard down. I remember
going to church all by myself and you
know how there's a prayer team at the front. I didn't care because I just
needed help so bad and I knew it was working and I would run to the front. I
didn't care who was watching. I would run to the front and I would just ask these
people, hey can you pray for me? And they would lay hands on me and they
would be praying for me and it was healing me.
And I had never had that.
I had never had a Christian community.
I had never had, I've never experienced anyone praying on me, right?
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I'm in this thing now where I'm like, I found God, right?
And so no one, no one could understand what was happening.
And so I just, every day I would go to this little church
on where I was having this encounter with Jesus
and I would say, and I was almost like a child.
Like anytime that pain would come, I would run
and I would say, Jesus, I need you.
Put your arms around me.
And he always came through for me.
That's great.
And so during that time, I would just sit in that church
and I would say, Jesus, I need someone to do life with.
Could you bring me someone?
I don't know who it is, if it's a partner, if it's a friend,
but I need someone who understands what's going on right now,
who can help me, who can lead me.
Can you help me?
And that just brings me to her. It was about, was it four months?
I don't know, November? It was November. It was on my birthday on November 9th. I believe it was
four months later. And I was at a job. And you know, when you're like, you're trying to be okay,
but you're fighting back the tears. Yeah.
I was getting my makeup done and I said, hey, do you think I could have a second?
And I went in the corner of the room and I just was weeping. It was a really,
really tough day for me. I was just, I was in pain. And I'm like, trying to not let anyone see me,
and I'm crying. And I feel someone take my hand and I look and it was her. And
she looks at me and she says, Hey, what's your name? And I said, Ari. And she said,
look at me. She said, I don't know what you're going through right now, but we're going to
get through it together. Okay. And I looked at her and I swear it was like, God said,
you know what, not only am I going to heal you
and I'm going to make this thing better, I'm going to bring someone into your life that
is going to bring life back to you, that is going to breathe life back into you.
And that's what he did.
And anytime I have doubts in my life, I look at her and I say, it all makes sense. Wow. She just, I mean, she has been the biggest blessing in my life.
I mean, she was the start to my faith.
She had already been deep into her faith for four years.
A couple years.
A couple years.
And so, I still had, because the thing is, is I was having encounters with God, but I had just known,
this was all new to me, so it was really hard for me to lose control, to just say,
hey, have it your way in my life.
It was really hard.
And so, I still was controlling my life, and so I still just had the overbearing thoughts,
I still was struggling.
And so, she came into my life and just helped me with that.
She is what introduced me to the Bible.
I remember saying,
Angela, I'm really struggling.
And she said, give me a month.
We're going to start reading the Bible.
And the thing I love about Angela is that,
she didn't have to, I mean,
anyone who had met me would have ran
for their life because I was, I was really hard to deal with.
No, I was, I was mentally unwell.
I mean, I really was.
And you know what she says?
I'm calling her and, and this is like three days in of us being friends and I'm saying,
I don't think I'm going to make it.
I am just struggling.
And she said, all right, that's okay.
We're gonna get through this together.
And I'm like, we're cut from the same cloth.
She gets it.
Like she just made me feel so safe.
And every single morning, Sadie, you have no idea.
She sat with me and she was so patient with me.
We started with John. She would just explain every little patient with me. We started with John.
She would just explain every little thing to me.
She would pray for me.
She would, we actually, why don't you tell the story about how we first started watching The Chosen.
That's what we started with.
Yeah, first of all, Ari is the best person in the world.
She's not, she, it was with like the most joy most joy in my heart that we went through this thing together.
Excuse me.
As soon as we met, I loved her so much.
I just knew, you know, when God puts you to be friends with somebody, it's expedited and
it's immediate and that's just what we had.
And it's just so funny, the moment that I said, we're going to get through this together,
I had no idea that like,
we really would be getting through everything together
for probably the rest of our lives.
But I love the moment that we,
cause I went to Ari and she actually said to me,
hey, I think I'm gonna try getting on a little medication
cause I'm really struggling still.
And again, there's a time and a
place for everything where we love medication for when you need it. And it works for so many people
and it saves lives. But I knew in this situation, I had the answer, I had the key, I know that Jesus
is a healer. And so I said to her, give me a month, let's read the Bible, and see if that changes
things for you. And sure enough, it
changed things for her. And before we even started reading the Bible, I because in our
first conversation, I think I shared my faith and she was like, Oh, I'm, I love Jesus too.
I'm starting to know Jesus too. And so she and I were both going through breakups at
the time I was going through a breakup, we swore off men were like, we're done. We're
not, you know, we're really like, we're gonna take a long time being single, whatever.
And then, so I'm at, I'm like, we're having sleepovers every night, and we start watching
the show. I'm like, you got to watch The Chosen. You haven't read the Bible yet, but like, before
we even start watch The Chosen, so you could put a face to the names, and just like, see it come to
life on TV. We're watching The Chosen and one
of the first scenes is with Mary Magdalene and Jesus and when Mary
Magdalene comes and she's demon tormented and she's going through so
much and she's really really suffering and nobody can help her. And Jesus comes
in The Chosen in the series, he puts his hands on her head and he says,
you are mine. And in that moment, she's completely free from everything that she's going through. And there was a moment
where Ari and I we used to always do this where like one of she she would be like in
the shower, and I'd be like on the bathroom floor. And so we're sitting there. And she's
she's just like, she's struggling. And I think she's probably maybe crying. And, and she
says to me just like, so weakly, she goes, and I said, What's up? She goes, Do you think that Jesus would heal me
the way he healed Mary Magdalene? And I was like, Yeah, 100% he will just ask him. And
then she just so quietly and just it was just this moment of full surrender. She goes, Jesus,
I'm asking you if you could please heal me
the way you healed Mary Magdalene.
And it was just like really the start of her.
If you see Ari, Ari reminds me exactly of the woman
with the issue of blood, who she knew that truly,
if she could simply just touch the hem of his garment,
she would be healed.
Ari knows that if she couldn't get close enough to
Jesus, she also will be healed. And if she stays close enough to him, she can stay healed, because
there are things that unfortunately can and most likely will come back if you separate from Jesus.
And so, yeah, that was just our whole, that was our whole journey. And then we just, you know, I,
it was so easy for me
because I had somebody who walked hand in hand with me,
who essentially discipled me,
my friend Socrates that I told you about.
And if I could have any wish for everybody in the world
is that they all had somebody to walk hand in hand with them.
Cause it's hard when you're doing it on your own
and you need someone to lead you like that.
And not everybody knows to go to church. You know what I mean?
Man, y'all. This is like, what y'all just impacted in your stories was literally like
the message of the gospel. As you taught, like scripture after scripture came to mind
as you told your story. And that is the message of the gospel that Jesus came, that he died
on the cross, that he was buried, He rose again.
And because He rose again and went back up, He gives us that same opportunity and welcome into resurrected life.
And so when you were talking about like, you were walking around dead, like that is where Jesus does his work. He's the one that brings the dead to life.
And the resurrection happens before, you know,
however we get to heaven, the rapture, the end,
whatever it is, however that looks like,
and whatever God does with that.
It happens before that, it happens now.
It happens when you spiritually feel dead,
and Jesus captures your heart and resurrects it to life.
It happens when you surrender to that,
until you take part in that, until you believe that.
It made me think your story about how Jesus says,
unless you become like the little children,
you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
And how you said, I just felt like a kid.
I just wanted to run to the front.
I didn't care.
I wanted to be in the arms of God.
Like scripture after scripture came to mind
because your testimony was just the power of the gospel. And the beautiful thing about
that is that friend, whoever's listening to this podcast, that's the same invitation
that you have. That's the same story that you've been invited into, just like Mary
Magdalene, just like Ari, just like Angela, just like myself. It's the story of Jesus
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I think like as you're telling the story
I feel like I was thinking about Christian movies, right?
Because you're like I saw this little church and I went in and it kind of like brings your mind
to this like, oh, this feels like a movie, you know,
where you go in and like, you're on your knees.
But Christian movies, like sometimes they came across cheesy
and it's unfortunate because there's nothing cheesy about it.
And this is like what Christian movies like miss a lot
of times is just the grittiness of the before.
And it doesn't always show like how hard it is.
Like, like you're saying, I was about like, I was trying a lucky rock.
Like I was trying anything like I needed hope.
I needed someone to save me.
Like I was dead.
And then you found hope in Christ.
But then it didn't just, you know, with the turn of a scene and music,
Christian music behind it.
No, it was like five months later,
you were still walking through the hard thing.
And it makes me think about in Psalms, like,
even though I walk through the valley
of the shadow of death, like, first of all,
that's a really fun verse to quote
and a hard one to live through.
Like, I'm not like, even if I walk,
even though I walk, like, I'm walking through the valley of the shadow of death.
It feels like death.
Your rod and your staff, they will comfort me.
Like that's what you experience,
walking through the shadow of death.
His comfort, his guidance, it came on you and it guided you.
And then you go, Jesus, this is awesome.
You're great.
You're amazing.
You're everything I need, but could you bring me a friend?
Can you bring me someone else to do this with?
And then he's like, I got you.
Here's your girl.
But you know what is so cool is that I actually experienced
so many similar things, like not even just,
I mean, yes, the grand theme of the gospel, same thing,
but me and my best friend, Lainey,
we met in almost like an identical way.
Y'all are not gonna believe this.
So I had just gone through a breakup.
She had gone through a breakup of like four years.
Hers was a lot worse than mine.
She was like struggling
and we both ended up being on the same tour.
I was speaking, she was a hip hop backup dancer.
She was like so cool.
I was like, this girl is crushing it.
And we were like the only two girls on the tour
that were kind of the same age.
So I like saw her in the hallway.
Hello, hello, Wade.
Well, then that night, it was like first night of tour.
She came and like knocked on my dressing room.
And at the time, I was not quite as spiritual, I guess.
I was literally getting ready to preach and I was just trying to like shake the nerves out. So I was not quite as spiritual, I guess. I was literally getting ready to preach
and I was just trying to like shake the nerves out.
So I was dancing.
I literally had like music on, not even Christian music.
And I was like getting it all out
and like trying to not be nervous.
Now, you know, I have worship and pray and all the things
but this was years ago.
And so I'm like getting all my nerves out.
She knocks on the door, turned on the music, opened the door
and she's just crying, literally crying so hard.
I don't know her.
And I'm like, oh my gosh, I hug her, I'm like, come in.
Whatever you're going through, same thing, I'm with you.
We're on this tour together,
we're gonna get through this together.
And she shares what she's going through.
Let's break up, and I kinda share a little bit
of what I'm going through is break up. And I kind of share a little bit of what I'm going through and we bond and like instantly, I mean, like you said,
Jesus expedite things, like he's the guy
that turned water into wine.
Like that should not happen, that should take a long time.
Expedited process, like it was that with our friendship.
It was like so close.
And then we did everything together.
We studied the word together, we did everything together.
We did YouTube together, we did Instagram together, we did everything.
And now actually it's so cool because we started praying
that like we would meet our husbands at the same time.
And it was so crazy because this was good.
Oh, you did it.
Did you?
Okay, literally, y'all will not believe this.
Yes, two, it was crazy.
So when I met Christian, we were all together at the beach
and we had swore off dating.
And so she was mad at me because she was like,
don't even talk to him, don't even look at him
because I immediately thought he was very attractive
and was like, oh shoot,
maybe I'm not swearing off dating because wow.
And then she was like, no, no, no,
she's trying to keep me to it.
Well, of course me and Christian ended up
kind of being together.
Well, when we went on our first date,
we did this, like, we went to a concert
and we invited a bunch of friends
so we could like all kind of get to know each other.
She came and she was mad the whole time.
She was annoyed that we were there.
And she was like,
I'm just gonna go check out the surrounding.
Like, she was just like joking.
She's like, I'm gonna go look.
First guy she sees, she goes, he's cute. Well, we go
up and talk to him. And now that is her husband. So they met on our first date. And it's crazy
because we got engaged two weeks apart, married two weeks apart. And then we had our first
daughters four months apart. And like our life just, it has been tracking truly
when you said like, we'll probably go through it together
for life, that is me and Lainey.
Like, it was so cool.
Cause when we met, it was like, we were so close
and everyone would be like, how long have you all been
friends thinking we were like best friends forever.
So we like jokingly cropped like baby pictures together,
even though we had just met.
We were like, just like being dumb. We're like, oh, we've known each other our whole life. But now we've been friends for like six years, seven years.
And we're like, man, we really got some time under our belt now.
But no, it's like so sweet.
So as you all are talking, it just makes me smile because I'm like,
God is so good and this is what God does.
So if you're sitting here listening to this podcast and you're like,
you feel lonely, you don't have a friend, you need that friend,
truly ask Jesus to bring that friend. this is what God does. So if you're sitting here listening to this podcast and you're like, you feel lonely,
you don't have a friend, you need that friend,
truly ask Jesus to bring that friend.
And as you live out your life for Christ,
it's like a magnet,
like other people who are living their life to Christ,
like y'all will become like attracted,
like you'll meet each other,
you'll see each other doing the thing.
And like she saw her crying
and you said at the beginning, you had a love for people. So you go to her and you're like, hey, I'm going to help you. So as you live your
life for Christ, you'll kind of meet people who love Christ and are doing the same thing as you
plant yourself in church, go into mosaic, as you start the Bible study, whatever it is, God will
help you meet those people. And sometimes your action in that is to put yourself out there,
is to go up to the friend
while you're crying, you know, and knock on the door of the dressing room when you're nervous, or
to go up to the friend who's crying and get past the awkward, you know, I don't know you, but I'm
with you, all those things. And so you do have a part to play. I actually saw y'all said this in
one of your interviews or one of your podcasts, and I thought it was a really good point.
You talked about when y'all started praying together for the first time, and you didn't use the word awkward,
but it was essentially a little awkward.
And I think that that's like a really good thing to note that sometimes when you first start living your life for Christ,
it's gonna feel a little awkward, you know, like going and like praying with a friend.
Can you just like give a little advice to people
who have like never prayed with their friends before,
never read the Bible and is listening to this podcast
and you're like, this sounds awesome,
but like practically how do I even bring this up?
Yeah, for sure.
When it's just so funny,
cause Ari and I's friendship is built on Jesus
and it's also built on laughter.
So any moment of silence between us is probably filled with laughter.
So when we first started praying, it was just, we would just laugh.
Like it was just, it was more funny than it was awkward, but I totally understand why
people would think it would be awkward.
But I just encourage you to know that when, when, when you pray and when you bring in
the Holy Spirit into whatever you're doing, it will,
even though it might be a little bit funny at first,
everybody involved will feel the effects of that.
And so it will bring you, you should see us Sadie,
if we came on, this is our studio where we record,
if we came to this table and we didn't say
a really serious prayer beforehand,
we would hee hee ha ha for two hours.
Like, you know what I mean? But as soon as we pray, it says everything.
God, when you bring God into something, He just brings everything into order for you.
And so bring it to your friend.
If you have like minded friends, the thing about prayer that I've really noticed
is that like you might feel awkward asking someone to pray for them.
But there's almost never a situation
where somebody doesn't want to be prayed for. Even selfishly, everybody wants a
prayer, even if they don't even know what prayer is. They're like, oh that sounds
like it might be good for my life. So people want you to pray for them. You,
they might feel awkward for a second, but if you just get over that awkwardness,
God will come through and the more you do, it's just repetition as well.
The more you practice, the more you do it, the more you ask, you'll gain the confidence
and also understand you are doing a wonderful thing for Jesus.
There's nothing to feel awkward about.
And eventually the awkwardness goes away.
Yeah, for me, I would say, like when people ask me how to pray, I say, it's not about what you say, it's just about your,
prayer is about relationship.
He's our Father.
We don't have to go and say, I don't know,
I mean, I didn't even know how to pray.
I didn't even know scripture or anything like that.
But I knew that I loved Him so much.
And that's all you have to do.
You come before Him and you speak from right here.
And you come with the humility.
You don't need to be perfect in your prayers.
I always say that to everyone.
You don't have to be perfect in your prayers.
Come from your hearts.
And for me, like, my goal since I was a kid, I always wanted to help people.
And so I know that when I'm praying for people,
I wanna help them.
And so I hold their hand and I pray in the sense of,
I wanna help you, what are you going through?
And I just speak from my heart.
That's all you have to do.
Speak like you're speaking to your dad.
You don't have to say certain things right.
You just, you speak from your heart.
So good.
And like, I love, I love how you said,
it doesn't have to be awkward
because you're doing a good thing.
And I think you have to understand like what you're doing
and the why behind what you're doing
is gonna help you do the thing.
Because if your why is to impress people,
then you're gonna be nervous, you know?
But if your why is to love people, there's no gonna be nervous, you know? But if your why is to love people,
there's no pressure in that.
Like love is just the overflow.
And so I love that you mentioned that because it's so true.
And one of my favorite quotes, like best piece of advice,
whenever I was probably in eighth grade,
I was at this Bible study that my cousin was leading.
And she said, five seconds of awkward
can save you from a lifetime of regret.
And that has stuck with me since middle school.
And it is so true because when you feel like the spirit
compels you to do something,
it's normally outside of your comfort zone,
which is why it requires faith because faith is the unknown.
It's the confidence in the things unseen.
It's like, okay, I'm gonna have to step into this water
that is a little murky, it's a little wavy,
but God, you've called me so I'm gonna do it.
But you also know why I'm doing this.
It matters so much.
And actually, sometimes it will be awkward.
Just to be honest, I actually had a situation recently
where I met this person at a restaurant as a waitress
and she was going through a lot
and she had like a GoFundMe thing
and I was like, oh, I wanna shout this out.
But before I did that, I was like, I wanna pray for her
because when she gets all the GoFundMe stuff going,
like when she sees all these people come in,
like I want her to know that this is like the Lord.
Like this is, God's doing this.
Like God loves you, God sees you, God's with you.
So I just wanted to like establish that.
And I asked her to pray, it was so hard for like,
she was like very hesitant, like, sure.
And so I started praying for her and like,
I noticed because we had a kid, like a baby with us,
it wasn't our kid, it was a friend's kid of ours.
And the whole time she was like talking to the baby,
like you could tell she was like not wanting me to pray for her at all. But I was just like, you know what? This is important
what I'm doing because I just wanted her to know. Like she didn't know that I was going to post
about her GoFundMe. She didn't know that I was going to do that later. That was just something
I knew I was going to do. But I was like, when she sees all this money come through, I don't want her
to think that it's like a coincidence. And I don't want her to think that it was like me.
I want her to know that this is the Lord.
And so, you know, if you know your why,
like if you know why you're doing it,
or because you really believe like God is the healer
and he can heal, that's how I'm gonna do it.
It'll help you press past those super awkward moments
that can definitely take place.
But I wanted to ask you all that
because I feel like y'all press pass,
y'all press pass the uncomfortability
of starting a podcast after, you know,
maybe feeling like, oh my gosh,
like there's so many things,
but we're gonna start right now.
Like y'all press pass the uncomfortability
of constantly sharing your faith.
You press pass the awkwardness of you two becoming friends
and the vulnerability that y'all have shared.
Y'all have shared your lives with so many people.
And it's such an inspiration to me, to everyone listening.
And so I know our time's wrapping on this podcast
and I truly could talk to y'all all day.
Like definitely gonna have to come back on,
but just thank y'all.
Oh, I love it.
I know we've been DMing a little
and now we have each other's number.
I'm making it happen.
Yes, we are.
Once we get there though, we're really gonna have to pray
because I am totally the laughter person too.
And like, that's why y'all's podcast makes me laugh.
Cause when y'all start laughing at like something someone
said where it's like not supposed to be funny,
but it was to y'all.
I always feel like that is so me.
So we might laugh our way through it.
We might have to record for a while to really get the meat,
but I'm totally coming.
You guys are awesome.
Thank you for coming on, for sharing your heart,
your story with the world.
And we appreciate it so, so much and inspired by the two
of you and all that you're doing.
Thank you.
Sadie, we adore you.
Seriously, God bless you.
Thank you, Jesus, for you and your life that has truly,
you just, your very and exemplifies Jesus.
And we are so grateful that we even had you to look up to.
And I'm happy that all these girls have you to look up to.
And if anybody is watching, if there's a role model that you want to take after,
Sadie is the one. She is the one.
Thank you, friends. Y'all are so sweet. Y'all are truly the sweetest.
Well, I'm glad that you are in my life
and the feeling is definitely mutual.
So thank you guys so much.
Thank you, Sadie.
We're so thankful for you.