WHOA That's Good Podcast - I Didn't Know Sex Could Be Beautiful | Sadie Robertson Huff | Reeves & Lydia Walker

Episode Date: June 17, 2024

Sadie digs into the love story of LO Worship team members and lifelong friends, Reeves and Lydia Walker. First though, they announce a brand-new single from LO Worship is dropping THIS WEEK y'all! Then Lydia and Reeves reveal how they came to find a passion in worship, and Reeves paints a powerful picture of how a Godly man should treat a woman he’s pursuing. Lydia gives all credit to the Lord for working out the timing of their story, and Sadie points out that it’s never too late to have purity in a dating relationship, no matter what’s already happened. https://drinkag1.com/whoa — Get a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs with your first subscription! https://www.trymiracle.com/whoa — Get 40% off + 3 FREE towels with code WHOA at checkout! https://preborn.com/sadie — Visit the website or dial #250 and use keyword BABY to donate now. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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the podcast, but I haven't had them on together. So I'm so excited to have two of my best friends Reeves and Lydia Walker. Welcome together. I know I'm excited. I'm so excited to have two of my best friends, Reeves and Lydia Walker. Welcome together. I know, I'm excited. I'm so excited. So if you haven't listened to their individual podcast, Reeves was on at one point talking about LO worship. Now Lydia is a part of LO worship,

which we have a really exciting announcement, but also when Lydia was on, she kinda told about her and Reeves starting to date and all that, which I'm so excited today to get Reeve's side of the story. So we're going to have some great conversations, but like I mentioned, we have a really exciting announcement for LO Worship. If you guys aren't familiar with LO Worship, we started a worship team through LO a couple years ago, and I've just kind of slowly but surely been putting out music and it's been able to minister to so many people including us. We've been just

so grateful for what God's doing and continuing to do through LO Worship. LO Worship is also leading a LO Conference which is so exciting which is not too far away but we actually are about to release a brand new song for the summer. It's actually coming out on Friday so make sure you get ready and check it out but this song is going to be led by Lydia so it's called Followers we're so excited to kind of unpack what it's all about but Lydia are you hype or what? I'm so excited it has been so much fun the first time Reeves brought it home and he played the song which he normally isn't

the biggest fan of like the hype songs, but this one is such a hype song and he loved it. I love it. I think it's such a fun song. I just can't wait for everyone else to hear it too. It really is so fun and it's funny. So like let's share a little bit of the backstory of followers and also even how you came on to LO Worship because it was really like organic. You were just like on a trip with us to Nashville and what happened? Yeah, well, I was Ree, y'all were going to record the last album or the last EP and I just wanted to go because I was like, you've gotten to go on these

riding trips and all these fun things. And I was like, I want to come too. Like, I just want to see, because he always comes home from those trips and is like, it was the best week ever. Like it's, this is what, it's what he loves to do. And I was like, I want to see you in action. Like I want to see it all come together. And so we called Steph and I was like, can I come?

Like I'll book my flight. I just want to, I just want to be there and just witness it, you know? And, and she was like, absolutely. So we made it happen and we got to Nashville and then I was there and it was just, I was just watching. And then we were in the studio and Mark was like, Hey, why don't you hop in and do some,

do some vocals on this? And I was like, okay. And so hopped in and and that was really fun, and just kind of just sang on some of the songs, just some background stuff. And then there was like a photo shoot, and y'all were like, Lydia, why don't you hop in the pictures? Just in case.

Yeah, just to see, like just hop in a few. And I was like, okay, just hopped in a few of the pictures. And then it really has just been organic and just kind of spur of the moment, honestly too. It really's been later than Steph's like, hey you want to sing at conference? I was like, absolutely, let's do it. And so it's just been like one thing but it's just been so fun to be a part from the beginning with him but then to be a part of it like in this way now too is really fun. It's really cool because Reeves has been like the OG LO worship guy but then you know I know

that you can sing. I've seen you lead in different spaces, but I don't know why we just hadn't thought about it and it hadn't just happened yet. And then just very naturally it started to happen. And I remember when you led a conference and everyone was like, what the heck? Like, she's so good.

And it's funny because a lot of people tell me and Lydia that we look alike and people thought that you were me in the LO worship photo and were like, oh, so you're doing this? I'm like, that's actually Lydia. Yeah, we both had on denim. You made a post. We had like the same outfit.

Yeah, that was funny. But yeah, so it happened really organically and then when followers came about, so it's a really cool story. We were doing a little write. What was that like? How long was that? October. October, okay. so back in October,

it was Reeves, Kaylee, me, Chidamah, Mitch Wong, and Mark. And I kinda came in and was like, I really want us to write songs that really speak to our testimony, but more than just like our testimony, the broad testimony of like a generation. And so we start talking about kinda what as, as a generation, we're going through, what things that we just kind of wanted to clear

like victory over. And we actually wrote another song too that I'm excited about sharing later, but Followers was kind of like an obvious thing that our generation has gone through with social media. And so they started talking about it. I actually wasn't there. I had left.

I'd written one of the songs that we'll talk about in another episode. And this song came about whenever I left. And I remember when they sent it to me, I was like, this is a vibe. Like this song is so fun. You cannot help but want to sing along to it. And the words are so deeply powerful. Well, it was really cool too because I have written a book, Who Are You Following? And I wasn't even there when they wrote this song, but I was like, man, this message ties so beautifully to the book. And so fast forward to, you know,

the song's about to come out here on Friday. And it was just a couple of weeks ago, I got this gift in the mail from a publishing company that Who Are You Following just sold 100,000 copies. Wow. Which was like so amazing. And I just felt like it was so cool because that book was like a slower start

than my other books. It was just kind of like a very specific message that I don't know that everyone was like ready to receive yet about social media and all the different things about it. And so to have a slower start, but then be at the point now where I felt like God was kind of affirming like people need to hear that message. People do need a guide on how to make sure that you're following Jesus first and foremost in your life and that you're using social media as a way to impact people and not just be like led astray by who you're choosing

to follow. And so for that to be affirmed at the same time, we're literally putting out a song about followers and following Jesus first, was really cool. So I just feel like God is so on this message and people need to hear it and for it to be like a fun declaration for people to sing over themselves while they're just in the car, windows roll down, radio all the way up, but also have like a deep meeting is really cool.

But it was funny because we didn't know who was going to sing followers because, I don't know, like we're a really small team and so we texted everyone like, hey, everyone send in, you know, you singing the song followers. And I don't even know, did y'all realize that we were trying to like pick? No. He definitely didn't. Well I was like at the office doing some work and then... It's really funny because that night, we weren't together that whole day and that night I was like, did you send in your version of followers?

And he was like, yeah, I just did it in the office and I was like, where at? And he was like, in my office. And I was like, everyone was just listening. He was like, no, I was quiet. And then he played me the recording and it was so bad. I was like, Reeves, I was like, you didn't even try. And he was like, they don't, it's not for anything important. Like they do.

That is hilarious. Hey, well if it makes the ability better, I didn't think it was bad. Honestly, what was cool is y'all did sing it different. And I wasn't really expecting y'all to sing it different because I wasn't thinking that. I was thinking like, okay, who sounds the best? And it was so funny because in my mind, I was expecting y'all to sing it different because I wasn't thinking that. I was thinking like, okay, who sounds the best?

And it was so funny because in my mind, I had like an idea of what we were gonna do. And then Lydia sang it and I was like, what the heck? Like this is so good. And Christian said, who's this? That's Lydia. Like what? It was just so good.

And I think the reason, so I had thought Will for the song, originally my brother, and Will sang it amazing. He's so good. And I think the reason, so I had thought Will for the song, originally my brother, and Will sang it amazing, he's so good. But what I liked about Lydia singing it was that it was a girl singing it and for LO Sister Conference, obviously it's Sister Conference, and this is bigger than just for conference,

but just having all the girls in the room, I just thought, man, that's gonna be really powerful and for you to lead it. But the other thing that I loved about you leading it is it kinda had this like confidence, but this like sass behind it, in like a good way. And I was like, you know this song, you need that. Like in the day that we're living in,

especially with social media, like you need to have a confidence in who you are and the decision that you're making. And what surprised me about that is you are one of my best friends and I know this about you that confidence sometimes is hard to come to. It's hard for you to not be afraid to do things and say yes to things. And so for you to kind of share your story in Elo-Worship and be like, yeah, I just did

it. They asked me to do confidence and I said yes and they asked me to do it. It seems like you're like this extremely confident person who doesn't have fear, but that's not really the case. So how have you like walked through balancing the tension of I really am a fearful person, but I'm not gonna miss out on what God has for me? Yeah, I used to just jump into things with no fear,

I guess, for a moment in life. And then I got to a place where everything was just kinda scary. And it was like, me and my sister used to joke about it, everything in life, I'd be like, are you nervous? Because I wanted affirmation, are we all nervous? Like, or is it just me? Like, what are we nervous about?

And then when I started walking with the Lord again, or really for the first time, that the nerves didn't just go away, you know, like the fear didn't just go away. I feel like I've talked about this before on the podcast, but confidence definitely comes easier when I take a step back and realize like it is the Lord working through me and not me on my own. You know it's not my power, my

strength, or my giftings that I'm really bringing to the table. It's what He's given me and that's when I really am able to step into confidence. But I do have to take a step back and like I do have to take a moment and Reeves definitely knows this. I'm I am a nervous person. I get fearful but I think it it does just take that, like, I have to step back in every moment, truly, like before anything. And that's even as small as like when we go to the hub, like even leading worship there, I have to take a step back and like, okay, God, like this is for you. Like it's not, it's not for my glory at all.

And it's the same with FCA, like when I'm speaking, okay, God, this is for you. It's not for my glory. Like, so ultimately, it doesn't reallyCA, like when I'm speaking, okay, God, this is for you, it's not for my glory. So ultimately, it doesn't really matter what I am perceived as or what people, what they look and see, what they hear. Ultimately, of course, as a human, my brain goes to that first. My first thought is, what are they gonna think about what I say or how am I gonna sound

or what if I hit a wrong note or this or the other? But I think in every single moment in life, I just have to take a step back and say, okay, God, this is not for me. Like this is for your glory only. So do what you want to do and just hand it to him. And I know that's easier said than done. And I know that's easier said than done, but it's a process.

And I do think being thrown into things kind of sporadically and like unexpectedly has helped me with that, honestly, to truly in every circumstance have to hand it and be prepared to hand it without like the preparation even, you know, because even in my job too, and in Elo worship and everything, I've just had a lot of moments where it's just like, do it. And it's like, I haven't really had a much time

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Because back in the day, I didn't have as many events I was doing, so I could do that. And I also didn't have kids, so I had plenty of time to prepare. And then once life got busier and I had more things on the calendar and then I had a family,

it was like, whoa, my preparation, like I don't have enough time to prepare maybe exactly what I'm gonna say or how I'm gonna say it like I used to. Like used to, if I was gonna speak somewhere, I would have that message so down in, I would have already preached it in front of my camera on my phone,

watched it back, pulled it apart. I don't have time for that anymore. And I remember like at first feeling guilty for it, feeling like, oh God, like I wanna be more prepared. And I felt like the Lord kinda spoke to my heart and was like, prepare your heart. Prepare your heart, not your words. Because if you prepare your heart, you're always ready.

You're always ready for something to come at you and either be able to say yes to it, no to it, or just to sustain you through it, whatever is coming at you, whether it's an opportunity or something hard in life. But if you live in a state of like, oh, I'm only preparing for a specific thing and not just preparing your life in life, but if you live in a state of like, oh, I'm only preparing for a specific thing and not just preparing like your life in Christ,

then I think that, man, it's just like so much more rewarding to just stay prepared as like a heart posture, not like a accomplishment state, you know? But it's really cool that you speak to that too, of like, you really had to have humility to say yes to things. And I think that a lot of people think, oh, like you need confidence.

Like I need to like muster up the confidence. And to some people confidence looks like, you know, you say, I'm awesome. Like I'm the best, I can do this. But it's actually opposite a lot of times, especially in Christ saying like, I'm humble enough to sing the wrong note. You know, I'm humble enough to mess it up

and say the wrong words because like, I know that guy can still use that, you know? As opposed to like, pride saying like, I'm the best of the best, I can do this, and finding confidence in that. Where when you try to do that, something deep down inside of you is always gonna be afraid because you know you're not.

Like, you know you're capable of a mistake. You know you're capable of failure. So to go ahead and humbly say like, even if I fail, God can use this. It's so powerful. That's how that makes me think of last year at conference. It was my first time leading a conference obviously. And my first time leading in front of that many people.

And I was really nervous and I was like, I was just stressing and at the rehearsals, I was kind of like standing like a board. Like I was just like stressing and I was really nervous and I was like, I was just stressing and at the rehearsals, I was kind of like standing like a board, like I was just like stressing and I was, and I truly was worshiping in like, in the practice and in the preparation, but I think it was, I don't remember which moment it was, but Reeves and I were driving home to like grab something

before one of the like nights or something. And the whole time, and I just like shared this with him, but the whole time I was on stage, truly, it's that old song, but the whole time, and I just like shared this with him, but the whole time I was on stage, truly, it's that old song. But the whole time, like even while we're leading, we're singing these songs, but the lyrics that were running through my mind were, take it all away till all that's left is you. And it was just like kept running through my head because it's easy in those kind of moments, and I'm sure you experienced this, especially when you're on a stage and like when you are in front of so many people, it's easy to just think about yourself

and to think about all the people that are gonna be looking at you and to think about, just to get into, I don't even know what the word would be, but it's all about me, mentality. And in that moment though, I truly, I was so nervous, but what took away the nerves was just repeating that in my head

was take it all away till all that's left is you. If it's just me and you here in this room, Jesus, if it's just us here, that's all that matters. It doesn't matter all of the bodies that are about to be in this room. I mean, it does, it truly does. It matters though that we're leading them to you. It doesn't matter the sounds, the lights, the mics,

everything else, I was like, take it all away in my mind, in my heart, take it all away in my mind, in my heart. Like take it all away until all that's left is you. And that was just what ran through my head, the whole conference. And that was what gave me the confidence to do it. It was like, this isn't, it's not about this. Like it's all about you.

So true. Because you're confident in who God is. You're confident he's gonna do his part. And so yeah, that's like a prayer that Christian and I pray over myself before I speak. It's like, God, would people only see you when they see me? Would I be so shielded by your covering that when people look at me, they see you?

And then after, it's even taking those intentional moments. I remember after I spoke at Passion this year, and I did the Bible recap in 15 minutes or whatever, but I know without Shavadah, I could have only done that by like the Spirit leading me. Because in all of my like rehearsals, I messed it up every single time. And I could not come to like a clean version of that. And then there in that moment with all those people there, the Holy Spirit spoke through me to deliver the message to the people. Because it was for them to know God more.

But then like after I got off stage, I was about to go straight up to the people because it was for them to know God more. But then after I got off stage, I was about to go straight up to where everyone was sitting and I just felt in my heart like, no, you need to go be with God. Before you get any affirmation from people, you need to just go be affirmed in Christ and also thank him for what he just did through you. And I think about how Jesus even did that.

After he performed miracles, he would go to the mountainside and just be with God. You know, and I think if Jesus did that as an example of like giving all the glory back to God and just sitting with him and being affirmed in him before he's affirmed in people, it's so important and keeps you humble. But Reeves, as a husband,

watching Lydia kind of step into this, because a lot of people here listening, it might be married and maybe not just friends in their life. How do you support someone stepping into something when they're scared to do it, but you know they're capable of it? Yeah, I think there's just prayerfully one, but also just pointing out strengths.

It's just leading them back to like, hey, you know who you are in Christ and it doesn't matter what anybody thinks. And I think before a lot of these moments, the fear just gets higher and higher and higher, like you're saying. We know that God is able to just show how strong He is and how big He is in our weakness. And so it's like in those weak moments and being there with you in those, that we can just both kind of just center in and be like, yes, I am. I don't have anything to bring. And as we walk out on whatever stage or even a podcast or whatever, like I don't have anything to bring to this except what you've done and what you're doing in my life. And so I think when you surrender that, it's just like,

it just, that's where the Holy Spirit takes over because you're really just letting Him. Yeah. And so, I mean, I think it's just like diligently, carefully, like just affirming you and telling you like, hey, you've been preparing for this, like you're ready for this. Like we've been leading in so many small moments. And I think that that's every, anybody that's an artist or even a speaker, like there's a gazillion small moments where they've made the mistakes and they've learned the things that they've learned to be able to be ready for those big moments that are scary and then but combining that

surrendering like right before and just letting God take over and remembering everything that He's brought you through up till now you know there's so many small worship moments that we do just for local ministries where we really just like you just put in the time and you learn how to let the Lord lead in every moment no matter how many people are in front of you and and just let Him shine through you. That's so important like Christian tells me that all the time he's like you are prepared for this and to have someone else who walks alongside of you who knows what you're capable of, be confident in you.

It's like so important, because it's like you see the things that no one else sees, and you see the things that I don't even see in myself, because you see me without the insecurities, you know? And so to have him say like, you're prepared for this, you're ready for this, you, you know, I was actually, we did something this weekend, and we were coming off of like a long travel day,

24 hour travel day with Honey and Haven back from Italy, which was amazing, but you know, a 24 hour travel day with a three-year-old and one-year-old, where are you out? And then, you know, jet lag, so we get home and we're waking up at 5 a.m. and then I had to go to North Carolina literally for the day and I was like doing a Q&A and speaking and all this stuff and I just felt like, so not prepared. And I was like, oh man, this is gonna be crazy. And Kirsten was just like, you're so prepared for this. He's like, you get up there on Monday night,

we mentioned the hub and he's like, you preach with the same passion you preach when you preach at a Passion Conference. Like wherever room you're in, you is just gonna overflow. And then it did, and then it's like so cool because he's seen me in those moments, he knows room you're in, like you is just gonna overflow. And then it did, you know? And then it's like so cool, cause like, he's seen me in those moments,

like he knows what's coming in and he trusts what God's gonna do when it comes out. And so to hear that voice of like reason in your life and confidence is so cool. But for those listening, so if you haven't heard reason Lydia's story, then you might not know that they weren't always worship leaders.

And you know, on a podcast talking about who they are in Christ, they both have quite the testimony. So I want to bring that up because people here listening are like, man, these people are awesome. Like relationship goals for real, which they are. Let me affirm that. But it wasn't always the case. So Reeves, tell us a little bit about your story.

And I know you have on the podcast before, but just for those who are listening who don't know, what's your background? Where are you coming to us from? Your post-life, your pre-Jesus, your dead self. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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Just kind of followed that path but every summer I was coming up here and spending time with you and John Luke and going to camp and working at Duck Commander and like just around Christians. So it created this divide. And I always say whenever I'm telling my stories, like I really understood the narrow and the wide gates that Jesus talks about because I just knew like I'm kind of going in the wrong way every time I go home I would just end up back in the wrong friend group doing the wrong stuff but here I would see the light and I would really know this is the way I should be going

so it just created a lot of tension in my life and and it honestly just pushed me further into spiraling and ended up at LSU and joined a fraternity and ended up having really bad habits just with alcohol and got involved in drugs and all the things and really just got dark fast. I really just came to the end of myself is is the best way to put it, after two years there. And I called my mom and just had a moment I was like, I really didn't go into detail with her. I was just like, I just know that I've got to get out of here. And I was just so numb and medicated from the stuff I was putting in my body that like my, I felt like my brain

wasn't functioning right. Like I couldn't study and I just couldn't retain information. Like I just, my health was bad and it was just a headlight moment. Like what are you going to do? So I just on my own transferred to ULM, which is a college here in Monroe, and I moved and I just, I didn't really tell anybody there. I just, it was a long process from there, but along the way I started leading worship and I'm six years sober this past February. That's awesome. And you know, I got the counseling I needed

and gotten to the community I needed and had amazing people just mentoring me. So yeah, I started leading worship and graduated from ULM and didn't use my degree. I have to say with the, well yeah, which is funny too, but you need to speak to that. But with leading worship, that kind of Halidah story is a little bit similar.

Like it came out of nowhere. You weren't really trying to do that. Can you tell that story real fast? Cause it's kind of funny. Yeah, like I had grown up in music and all of that. My family was just like super rooted in music. My mom majored in music. My grandmother's a piano teacher for her entire life

up until she was in like a retirement home, like still teaching at some points in time. But so it was like forced on me, never really got into it. But whenever I moved up here, I had a guy named Ryan that was really pouring into me and he was the worship leader at our church. And he just was like, hey, why don't you just jump back into music? And I'm like, we'll kind of bond over that.

I'll show you the way and you can start leading. So I did. And like you said, I just, I mean, I didn't really know I could sing. I liked to sing in the car and just whatever. But it all came back really quickly because of how much it was in my childhood. And I fell in love with it.

And then I was like, I just really want to do this. And so then, like I was just saying, I graduated from ULM in construction and I ended up working at Camp Chioka as like the groundskeeper, but also the worship leader. And we didn't have instrumental worship and me and John Luke were just like, let's do it. And so Basically just put together this like worship program and started having instrumental worship while we also had a acapella worship service

with the Church of Christ roots that were ingrained into the camp and so we're keeping the tradition alive and kind of bringing in the new and learned a lot from that and and then one retreat the tradition alive and kind of bringing in the new and learned a lot from that. And then one retreat, she came, it was a Christ Church retreat that was being held at camp, but I was working there and also attending. And so my friend was dating her best friend. So it was like, that was how we met. And honestly, I just thought she was way out of my league and was scared to talk to her almost. But after that, we just became like best friends because they like our best friends were dating

and so we were just hanging out all the time. It was me and this guy and the four of them. And you were interning here actually at the time. Oh, yeah Yeah That was when you had just started the Bible study when you had because you had just recently moved home Yes, I started the Bible study and I met her and the other three girls. Yeah, I was like I'm looking to hire someone I was only looking for one of us said they all said me and those are how I get a pic between the best friends I was like, okay someone, I was only looking for one. All of a sudden. They all said me, and they was like, how am I gonna pick between my best friends?

So I was like, okay, well, I'll hire you, and we all intern, and we'll get you some college credit, and it worked out. And now we're all so close, but yeah, I forgot, that was the same timeline I wanted to meet. I forget about that. Yeah, you all became besties, and one thing kinda led to another,

and Reeves was like wanting more than a best friend but Lydia was not feeling it at the time. And one day I literally left work we had each other's locations I saw she was home drove to Ruston which is like 30 minutes from where I work and just walked up in her house and basically told her that I wanted to be more than friends. And she's like, with the COVID like Zoom classes, she's like in class, and like shuts her computer. She like shuts her computer and she's like, okay. And didn't really give me an answer. I was just like, you don't have to tell me now, but this is just what, like, this is where I'm at.

Let's see, they're like, we can't be best friends forever because either one of us is gonna find somebody and that's not gonna be cool to be best friends with them. So, we just gotta figure it out. And so she was just like, okay. And so we just, it was like two days of going back and forth,

to which ended in a text message saying, you know, let's just stay friends. But. Let's just stay friends. I sent a text. I didn't even know that was what happened after. That's after we prayed for you? Yeah, because you didn't, Reuse was leading worship, which I've said this on here before, but that was like two years ago. Because Reeves was the next night after he came and confessed his feelings to me, he was leading worship in Sadian Christian the one time. The one time and the only time we ever joined the prayer team. I went up to them crying, and I was like, Reeves loves me and I don't know if I like

him. Me and Christian were like, oh man, this is not good because we love you, we love Reeves. I literally grew up our entire life. He's like my brother and I know he has feelings for you and then you're telling me you don't have feelings for him and I'm like, oh man. And then I'm supposed to be the prayer person

so I'm supposed to have no feelings in this. Let's give it to the Lord. And so Christian was so funny. I remember Christian was like, look at him up there leading worship. What's not to like about him? He was. And then we're literally praying

that God would change Lydia's heart over her. We're like, give her the eyes to see more of their friends. And we do this like whole prayer and then you text him and like two days later yeah I texted him and I sent this text I was like I cherish your friendship so much and I just think it's I don't want to put it at risk and I just think it's a sin. And then so y'all were just friends? Well yeah so not really really when that happened which I Got over the fact that it was through text. I was kind of disappointed

I was like we've been talking in person. I feel like we could have this conversation, but got past that and so then From there. She just it was like when we go to church on Sunday So it's like you want to go eat with us and I was like, I'm gonna Like I'm gonna go eat with my parents like let's kind of chill on the like hanging out all the time like best friends like we can maybe do that like but I just might need some time yeah and so like she got really upset like one day when I didn't go eat with y'all and and so I called her later that day and I was like look it's not

anything personal but like I just told you I just basically like I told you where I'm at and you you said no and that's great but I just kind of need some space with that. So good. Honestly I hope that everyone listening is taking notes because I have to say like you led this so well. First of all like to go up there in person and respect both of you, tell her exactly how you feel. That's so rare. Kudos to you.

If you are in a relationship and y'all are in that talking confusion, give clarity. It's so important. And then for you to actually process it for two days, that's so good. And then come to the realization, hey, and get prayer, and get prayer. That was really important.

It's a funny part of the story because it happened to be me and Christian, but to even pursue that, I think is so good because you actually gave it thought and then decided no, so you gave clarity back to him and then you set the boundary that you needed to set and say, okay, well then, that's totally fine, but we can't be best friends

because one of us is gonna get hurt and you knew you had feelings For her so at that point like you were at risk of getting hurt because she might end up dating someone else and that wasn't gonna be cool and so like to set the boundaries and actually stick to the boundaries and say like Okay, because so many people get caught in this trap this confusing talking thing and then it's like we're best friends But no one wants to make a move but somebody's gonna get hurt and someone does get hurt. So like kudos to both of y'all because I think y'all both did all of this very intentionally. So you took the time and you were mad about it because then all of a sudden you're missing him. Yeah. Oh yeah. It works.

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I was like, should I have just given it a chance? So then you go to Morgan and then I told Ryan what's going on and they were just like, what'd they say? Morgan told me, Morgan and Ryan both told me when I told them, I was like, I feel like I might've made a mistake. And now he told me to give him space. I lost my friend, that wasn't my plan. And they were like, well, when I told him I was like I feel like I might have made a mistake like and now he told me give him space like I lost my friend that wasn't my

plan like and they were like well when you miss him just read a book and I was like read a book and they were like they're like you made your decision like there's a reason you made that decision then and if the Lord like if it's truly Reeves who's like your person like if you did make a mistake like you have to trust that the Lord will bring that back and that He'll work it out in His timing. So they were like, read a book. And I was like, okay, I'll read a book. That is hilarious. I'd say what I would miss him or what I want to call him or what I want to text him.

Because we were like the kind of friends. We did hang out all the time. It truly was friends, but we were best friends. Yeah. And so I just started reading books. I just picked up some books. That is hilarious. Okay, so when was the moment that y'all came back together? And so I just started reading books. I just picked up some books. That is hilarious. OK, so when was the moment that y'all came back together? Well, we became friends again.

Or we never stopped being friends. We never stopped being friends, but there was kind of natural space. Yeah. And thank God that Ryan and Morgan were just being led by the Lord in those moments talking to you and talking to me, because that's exactly what we both needed.

I think we talk about it, if we would have started dating then it probably wouldn't have been good. I mean, I wasn't necessarily in a horrible place and neither were you, but it wasn't the best place. We just had some things we were currently working on in our relationship with the Lord and just between both of us coming out of some just weird pockets of not as out of some like just weird pockets of like

not as good lifestyle like some things some choices like so it was just the timing for that not working out was great yes but then because of the space and like me just having to be like okay i'm gonna have to be okay with this like and it's sad but whatever I actually like found Contentment in the Lord in that season and I was like, well, I'm gonna like I figured out I'm gonna be okay if this isn't yeah what ends up happening even though I wanted it yeah, and so that was like two or three months of that and We slowly started hanging out again because we both just kind of got okay with it But you were kind of just sitting there hoping that we would talk about it again. But I didn't know that.

And so then one night, like after our college ministry night, your car was parked at Duck Commander. It was after a rec league basketball game, actually. Oh, yes, the good days. The basketball days. Yeah. It was parked at Duck Commander. So yeah, we had a game and then you were like,

we were going to ride in Morgan's but they were like, oh you need to go get your car. Ride with Reeves. Yeah. And I was like, okay. And they just like pushed her towards me in the parking lot, said go ride, take her to your car. Because they were talking about it or something. And at that point they were like, it's time Lydianna. Yeah, they were like pushing her to say something at that point they were like it's time Lydia

The books can go back on the show so then in the car like There was a little mini relationship that had happened for her that I didn't care about and she's talking to me about it I'm like, hey, I just don't really want to hear about this and She was like okay and I was like well I hope you can get what I'm saying like I don't care about that guy like and they were like y'all broken up or whatever you're just telling me about I'm like good I don't know I know what to say so in a nice way I was just like let's

just not talk about this and then I was like, I was like, it's just like, I don't want to, I don't want to talk about this because you know how I feel and honestly, and then I was like, and honestly, it hasn't really changed. Yeah. So that was like, well, and then she's like, well, it hasn't really changed for me. That was savage because you kind of wanted him to say it. And so you brought up the guy. She's like trying.

I was like, yeah, so we ended things. I didn't know that she was like. Putting out the feelings and you're like, I literally don't care. You're like, stop. Well, I didn't know that she had come to the point that she's like wanting to talk about it. So I'm being a little blunt about it.

And then she's like, well, it hasn't changed for me either. No, I said it has. I was like, I mean, it has changed, has changed. And he was like, and so then I was like, okay. And this is in the spring inside internally freaking out. Oh yeah. It was just kind of out of left field and this was in the spring. And like I I said I'm still working at Camp Shioka and she's about to be a counselor out there which is just a that's just a summertime job for context and I'm full-time there so that technically makes me over you in a way and I just was like there there's rules at the camp about relationships and I'm full time and I was like, well, we can start talking about it, but we can't do anything while you're... Until the end of the summer. Until three months. Yeah. I was like, we waited this long. I think that was pretty much

like, we're like, okay, well, we're going just go through the summer and we're not gonna let anyone know that we have this feeling going on between us. I remember that, but I remember knowing. I remember Lydia being like dying for that summer to be over. I know. So that y'all could date. Which I think was so good, because I think it kind of caught you up to speed to where maybe he was at. Like desiring the relationship that you couldn't have. Yes. It was like, and that's, I'll just kind of speed up to the end of the story, but it was

like we both had that conversation on our first date. So after the summer ended, long story short, there were a few conversations here and there in the summer about like annoyances or different things. And like, Well, okay. summer about like annoyances or different things and like well okay we get to the end of the summer and we've both been waiting for it to end and i ask her if she wants to go to parish i've made a reservation it's a nice restaurant in town like the nicest restaurant in town and she says no yes why did you say no i I was nervous! I was stressed!

And so there was still technically a week left. There was still technically a week left of camp. And so I said, it's not, camp's not over. It's not time yet. Like, me and John Luke are best friends. I was like, hey, can I go ahead and like take Lydia out on a date? He knows what's going on. And he's like, yeah, it's all, I mean, summer's over. Like, y'all did it.

And so, I know it's okay, but you were nervous about it, and then you said no, and I was like, all right, okay. I was so confused, but then you walked away and cried. So good. Then I cried, I cried. Then I like, I walked. So you were nervous to go on the date? Yeah, I was both. I was like- You were nervous to go on the date. I was both.

I was like- Are you trying to postpone? I was just like, this is Reeves, and this is so important, and this is the moment. This is where the confidence thing comes. How is this date gonna go? Like, cause I was like, at this point, we're over, we're like a year into this whole thing,

and I'm like, this is a year long process, like, and this is the moment. This date means a thing. And I'm like, this is a year long process, like and this is the moment. This date means a lot. And I was like, no. Oh my gosh. Okay, but obviously it worked out. It worked. But I have to say, okay, there's so many lessons in this

that it's actually crazy. So like I said, I hope y'all were paying attention the whole time. One thing that I really wanna highlight is Reeves, your pursuit of Lydia is incredible. It is beautiful because there was a lot of waiting, there was a lot of hard conversations, there was confusion, there was a no after all summer, there was stuff like that, there was multiple nos, but you kept pursuing and pursuing people is like, I think it's like a lost art. You know, like that's something that I think is, every girl is like worth, you know,

being pursued by a godly man. Like, I just feel like God, that it's like God's design. Like being the bride of Christ, like being pursued by Jesus himself, you know, that he's coming back for his bride. Like there's such a beautiful gospel story in a man pursuing a woman, and you did that for Lydia. So anyways, I want to hear from you Reeves

about just a challenge to men on pursuing women. And then also, Lydia, speak to this too, because it goes both ways. I think when I think about pursuit, I think like, yes, Christian pursued me, but I was also a part of pursuing him too, and being a part of this relationship. Just like, you're a relationship with God. He pursues you, but then you have to commit to him too.

You have to be in relationship with him. So you're pursuing her, and there's times where you're like, I don't want it, I don't want it. And then you keep pursuing. What a picture of the gospel, you know? And then eventually, you're like, I do want this. And now you have the blessing and the benefit of being in a relationship. It's the same thing with Jesus. So like you got to give an example of that to her

and you got to step into that and see that too. But do you want to speak to that Lydia first? Yes. I just want to add one more little piece and then I'll be done. But another part, and this is bragging on Reeves too, but on our first date we finally went on the date about a week after that. So it happened, but we were at Parrish and at that time we both were sitting there and we really were sitting across the table and we were just looking at each other and saying like, wow, like this truly has been all in the Lord's timing. Like it really has been perfect in his timing because like he already said, if we had started dating when he had first come to me eight months before, we would have,

our relationship would have looked completely different because like he said, at that time, both of us had our own individual struggles and things that we were still surrendering to the Lord. And so it really was perfect timing. And like in that eight month span, I also got baptized and like I had truly surrendered everything to the Lord. And we just talked about how kind it was that the Lord knew

that those things needed to take place before we came to a place together, you know? And it really was, the Lord was just so intentional about that. And I'm still so thankful for that because I know, I know our relationship would have looked completely different if it had been on our had been on Reeves' timeline. And then the last thing though was even after that,

like a couple weeks later Reeves was like, Lydia, I don't want to rush you. I want this to be your, don't feel rushed by this. Whenever you're ready to say yes to be my girlfriend, then he was trying to be so kind and like, I'm not rushing you and I was like, okay, cause you know, nervous me. I was like, I don't know if I'm ready to commit.

And he at first was like, I totally understand, like I'm not rushing you. And then so we had that conversation and then a day after that, again, Reeves came with like confidence and boldness and he sat me down and he was like, and now I tell this to girls now that I work with in college, Reeves sat me down and he said, we're dating Lydia.

Like he was like, you are my girlfriend, I am your boyfriend, whether you wanna call it that or not. And I promise you, like I'm committed to you. Are you committed to me? And he was just like straight up. Because we had just had this conversation where he was like, I'm not gonna rush you, you don't have to be my girlfriend and I was like thank

you because I'm just so nervous about commitment and and the next day he came and he said that to me and he was like you are my girlfriend like I am your boyfriend it's just whether or not you want to call it that that's what this is so are we dating are you committed to me because I'm committed to you and I was just like I guess I'm committed to you like and so and that was I mean that sounds so terrible now but it was like that was that was how like, I guess I'm committed to you. Like, and so, and that was, I mean, that sounds so terrible now. But it was like, that was how like, and that's what I needed.

Like, Reeves has always been, why am I getting emotional? But he's always been the man I needed. Like, you can take over cause I don't know why I'm crying. No, that because it's beautiful, because that's how it should be. Because a man should be confident in who he is and confident enough to lead a woman well and protect her heart.

That's what it looks like to protect a heart. It's like so many people these days are afraid of commitment, and because they're afraid of commitment, it's keeping them from the blessing that commitment brings, from the fullness that commitment brings. You think that commitment's gonna hold you back, but commitment frees you to actually fully step in to what God designed.

That was like, that was the point I was trying to get to. It was like, because I'd just been through so much before and I was like, I was just scared of all that came with the commitment, but then it was when the commitment came and when it was like, he gave me the confidence and like the, like to be comfortable in committing to him and to know that he was truly committed to me was like I mean it was like a month later. We were like, I love you. And then I like after that It's like I know you're the person like it was almost like immediately like I was like I know this is the man like I'm gonna marry and it was the same for him like but it was when like He gave me the space to like to be comfortable in that commitment and to know it was like true and real

Yeah was when like that freedom came in. Wow, that is so good. No, don't be sorry, that's so real. Because there's a lot of girls listening to this crying too because they've been scared of committing and because commitment always seemed like a bad thing, but now you're painting the picture of how you have to commit to actually step into relationship. It's the same thing, again, this is a picture of the gospel. Some people don't want to commit

to Christ, but then it's like because you don't commit, you don't get the fullness and the freedom of actually living in Christ. This is such a beautiful picture of the gospel, honestly. Reeves, I think it's really cool and something to point out that in your story you shared, you said just a couple years before, your mind wasn't there. You have been on drugs and medication to where you couldn't think right, you couldn't study. And now here we are talking about these intentional conversations and timing, and obviously something changed. Obviously there was a clarity in your mind that you didn't have before, and I would say

that's the Holy Spirit in your life. Like you're actually leaning into what God was doing and how God was leading. Can you talk a little bit about pursuing Lydia as far as like just challenging men out there to pursue women, but also at the same time, like how to let God lead you as you lead a woman. Cause that's really what you did.

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I became okay with that answer. And I realized that I'm okay. I have the Lord and I have my job and I have family and I have friends and I have other things that are going and life goes on and it's gonna be okay. And we'll eventually kind of be friends, whatever. And in that season too, and now I would say that I just hold really fast to the sovereignty of God. And I love just studying that and remembering that and holding to that. And in

that season, I learned that if that's what He wants for me, then He will make it happen. And so, if He didn't let that happen, then it's not what He wants for me. And finding peace in that and being okay with that was crucial for me because I became content in the Lord. And then I realized, which is, I think this is big for guys that might be listening and girls, but I can't mess this up. And I think before this pursuit and this relationship, I struggled with like, there's a one, like there's gotta be one or, or maybe there isn't one. Maybe I can just be married to any girl that I find attractive and best friends with whatever. And it would work because God is good and he works through it if we just put Him first.

And maybe there's a lot of truth to that. But at the end of the day, in order to let the Lord work in that and set that up for you and just follow His lead on that, you have to know you can't mess it up. And so whatever I had done or whatever had brought you to say no at first, I didn't do anything to mess it up. I just continued pursuing the Lord, found contentment in Him. And then when the timing was right, He made that happen because that's what He wanted for both of us.

Yeah, that's so good. And so I think that, and it's hard to explain how you need to let the Lord lead in your life, but I think that, you know, this story is kind of a picture of how I learned that and how you learned that. And- Well, I think how you said too,

like some of the things you said without saying it is like, I didn't try to manipulate it. Like I didn't try to change her answer. I let her answer be her answer. In my disappointment, instead of taking my disappointment and trying to change her mind through manipulation or as people are saying now, gaslighting or whatever, whatever tactic that maybe your disappointment

could've led you to, you took your disappointment to the Lord and said, God, help me find contentment in this disappointment. And through doing that, the Lord and said, God, help me find contentment in this disappointment. And through doing that, the Lord showed you what good things you have in your life. Like, okay, look at all the things I have. I have my family, I have my friends, I have my job, I have my things. If it doesn't work out with Lydia, I'm going to be okay. So then you were able to fully let her have her space while you were not sitting over there depressed, crying. You were like, all right, I'm know, God's got me. And I think like even

that in and of itself is like, I think you can't mess it up if you're pursuing the Lord and doing God's way. Like people mess it up when they try to like take the reins and try to like throw in that manipulation, their own will, they're trying, they're hurting people through it, they're making you feel stupid, they're making you, you know, like that's when you start going off course. But like if you're pursuing the Lord

and bringing him to the center point of it, like you really can't mess it up. And as a prayer that I've found that's helped me a lot, is I'll say like, God, if this is your will, then nothing will be able to stop it from happening. If it's not your will, then I don't need it. And that's just been like a prayer for me whenever I go through disappointment, when I'm like, God, I really want this, God,

why aren't you answering me in this, God? Why I have it, you come through on this. And then I'm like, okay, if it's your will for me to step into that, then nothing can stop it. If it's not your will for me to step into that, then I really don't need it and help me to find content without it, contentment without it, you know, content without

it, which is hard, but God will. He will lead you to that. And so, y'all's story is so incredible. I think for those listening, man, what a great story to just go back to as even like a blueprint for how to date well, pursue well, and also from two people who had a little bit crazier a past, who didn't do it right several times, but then did it right this one time, and it led to an amazing marriage and friendship and blessing to so many other people, including Christian and I. And so thank y'all for sharing your story. And also it's so cool when you pursue someone like Christ Pursued the Church, when you are in a relationship where God's at the center, then people get to

see God when they see you. People get to see God when they hear about your story. And so through them telling their story, we all got to hear the story of the gospel. And so man, that's the power of stepping into God-centered relationships. People often say like, do I have to date a Christian if I'm a Christian? You know, and you know, it's such a bigger answer than just saying like, yes. It's like, why would you not want to? Because if you are, that's the most important thing in your life. Then like, one, you get to experience the power of the gospel through your relationship, because it's the design God had for

marriage. But then two, people get to see the gospel through your relationship. And so like, man, the power of being equally, the power of both pursuing the Lord to pursue each other. There's just nothing like it. And so thank you all for speaking into that power of commitment, clarity, all the things. This was a message that we needed to hear as a generation. So thank you guys so much. And don't forget that this Friday we have a brand new song followers coming out that

I think is really good minister to y'all, speak to y'all, and just be a fun song for the summer. So thank you guys so much. This is funny guys, we're popping back in here because this happens all the time. After the podcast, we're all like, oh, we should've said this, we should've said this. Like I think about that.

But Reeve said, I wish I would've talked about the purity and I said, we'll talk about the purity because that is so important and I know people need to hear this, so. Yeah, one thing that we learned looking back is That we were we were able to remain pure in our relationship and we abstained from having sex before marriage but with how much of a struggle that was at times and like we made mistakes and

struggle that was at times and like we made mistakes and It was really hard because both of us had not remained pure before we were together But looking back After we were married it was like man if we had started dating when we initially tried to start dating Had the Lord not stopped that we would have for sure, and we kind of touched on earlier, like we had had some personal struggles. We would have, I don't know that, we would have been able to do what we set out to do

and remain pure. And the point that we would have started the relationship, I wouldn't have built such a strong stance about that. Because it was in that time, in between when we tried to date and it didn't work and then we ended up dating, I had really pressed in on some of the struggles in my life and started surrendering a lot of that

and working on that part of me. And something I came to kind of stand on I guess is that and this is big I love sharing this if you're willing to go outside of marriage in a dating relationship to have sex then you don't to have sex, then you don't hold the covenant of marriage highly, as highly as you ought to, the way that God calls us to. Because if you're willing to go outside of marriage with that person in the dating relationship,

then you're willing to go outside of it when you're married too. Wow. And when I heard that, I was like, okay. So it's on the same level as well Because it's not about the fact that it's that person like you're gonna be married anyway I think that's a huge excuse today and it's honestly a lousy excuse because when you think about it like that if you don't if you don't

Value marriage like value the covenant of marriage and you're willing to go outside of that in the dating relationship, then you'll be willing to go outside of it. What does it hold at that point? Because you already did it, even if it's with the person you're going to be married to. Yeah, wow. So whenever we ended up dating, I went into it with that understanding. I was like, oh, this is way more important. Yeah, and he really did lead that too in our relationship, which was really huge. There was moments where I was weak and you were strong.

It's true, but you led it from the beginning. Like you did, and it was huge because I definitely, I mean, I had never experienced sex in a beautiful way before, like, you know. And, and it, cause it was outside of marriage, it was outside of the will of the Lord. And so it was never what it was intended to be. And so even, that was another reason I was scared

of commitment, everything was just, I was like, I don't know if I can, I don't know if I'm strong enough to follow the will of the Lord in this area. And I remember praying, I was like, God, I need you to send me a man who actually will love me how you want him to love me, and in that sense will lead us away from this. And so I had never experienced it in a beautiful way.

And then with Reeves, it was truly from the beginning, he led that. He was like, the Lord says this, and if the Lord says it's not good, outside of marriage, it's not good. And so we are going to fight. Like, it's gonna be a fight, our entire relationship, and it's not gonna be easy, but we're gonna fight this.

And now being on the other side of it, like after marriage and truly like, I don't know, but after our wedding, like everything, I truly now it's like looking back, it all makes sense. Like, you know, it makes me like, I wish I could go back and tell like little me. And now like I do tell girls, like I'm like, I know you don't, you're not could go back and tell little me. And now I do tell girls, I'm like, I know you're not here, so you're not me.

You haven't experienced it, but I'm like, God, he says it because he loves you. It's truly protection that he doesn't want you to do that. And it's like, on the other side of it, it makes so much sense. It's like, this is why he says to wait. This is why. I wish more people

Like would have told us that when we were young It's because of a like it's a good thing because he loves us Yes, and because he loves us and because what he designed is good Yeah, and outside of it is not good. Yeah, it's it's not like it's actually not good Like it does it hurts you. It really hurts you. Just knowing some of your story and the pain that's come from it, that is really hard.

And even me and Christian have been open talking about our past struggles. It hurts. And so then to have it in a beautiful way, the way it was designed to be good and it protects your heart and all the things, it's like, man, I wish people weren't just like, don't have sex before you're married.

Because then you're just like, why? I want to, you know? But then to hear what God has for it, it's like, oh wow, because it's so much better because it's like, actually beautiful and it's a gift. And so I'm so glad that y'all spoke to that because it is true. And also like, just take note as you're listening,

because some of you might be listening and be like, man, I've already messed it up. No. The redemption. No, like there's so much redemption. Like even if you're in a relationship right now with the guy you're going to marry and y'all are engaged and you're having sex, like it's still, it's not too late to like stop, pump the brakes and be like, hey, let's practice right now what this looks like to actually

pursue what God says is good and wait and, you know, sustain from that and step into marriage pure because right now you asked for forgiveness and turned and sustain from that and step into marriage pure because right now you asked for forgiveness and turned and repented and there's a redemption story for you. So like, I just believe it is never too late to be washed in the blood of Christ and be pure in His sight and no matter what relationship you're in

and coming from all of us who I would say we all went into marriage purely and that's not because we did everything perfect and that's not because we abstained from everything but because we repented before Christ and got through it before stepping into our wedding night. There's freedom for you friend and so thank y'all for picking the mic back up because that needed to be said. Yeah it was so good.