WHOA That's Good Podcast - If You've Got Jesus, Are You Sharing Him With Others? | Sadie Robertson Huff & Willie Robertson

Episode Date: May 15, 2024

Sadie loves nothing more than talking about the Lord and His Word with her dad — and as it happens Willie Robertson just wrote a book all about sharing the Gospel with others! Willie is here to set the record straight: reading the Bible and studying about God is not a gift, so stop letting that be your excuse for why you can't talk with people about the Gospel! As Willie puts it: if you know the hope of heaven you should be sharing it with others! Get your copy of Willie's book, "Gospeler" here: https://www.thomasnelson.com/p/gospeler-book/ This Episode of WHOA That's Good is Sponsored by: https://drinkag1.com/whoa — Get a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D3+K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs with your first purchase! Get a 4-week trial, free postage, and a digital scale at https://www.stamps.com/whoa . https://preborn.com/sadie — Visit the website or dial #250 and use keyword BABY to donate now. - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's up fam? Happy Woe That's Good Wednesday. Y'all this is such a fun Woe That's Good Wednesday. Because if you're watching this on YouTube, this is our first Wednesday in the new podcast studio. All we need is a live audience right now to be clapping and cheering going crazy. Because I am so excited to be in this new space and I just thank you all so much for those of you who have Supported this podcast for so many years and so many seasons so many great conversations

To get us to the point of being able to be in such an amazing studio. So thank you guys I love the world. That's good fam, and I'm so excited for today's interview I have the the top listen Podcast guest back on the podcast. It is none other than my dad, Willie Robertson, with his new book, Goss Speller. Welcome back to the podcast. It's nice to be back, Sadie, how are you? I'm doing grand, and can we just laugh for a second,

because dad walks in this podcast studio, You know he dressed he dressed the part He's wearing his merch that got speller hats pop in but you literally bring your entire pot of coffee Of course I did well was it necessary? Well, yeah It just it keeps it warm and I always just have I can just take a little hit you know I'm just laughing cuz I'm like we we were laughing at him because you're literally turning into Uncle Si who carries a tea jug everywhere, but you're carrying a pot of coffee. I'm a little out of sorts today because we did a prayer breakfast this morning at 7

at 7.30 in West Monroe, the mayor's prayer breakfast. And I set my alarm for 6.10 p.m., not 8.00. Yeah, classic. Yeah, bad call. But mom set hers for six, so mom will be upright and get me that. No, at 6.50. No. I hear mom say, oh no.

So then I'm super late and I have my hair is an issue. And so I had to get in the shower. So I didn't get a chance to make coffee. So I just had to go straight to the prayer breakfast with no coffee, no anything. And I did that. I went back home, made coffee, brought it. Mom's making fun of me because I wore this.

And she said, you're the only person here with a sweatshirt on. I said, well, I you're the only person here with a sweatshirt on. I said, well, I'm also the only person here with a bandana on, but you didn't even mention that one. So, but it's in West Monroe. So I felt like, like I know everybody here. West Monroe is one of those places, like whenever people come to visit us

and we bring them dinner, what should I wear? I'm like, you really can't get away with anything anywhere. Like you could go super nice and that's great and that's fine. Or you can wear a sweatshirt and you know, a hat. Or a hunting clothes. And hunting clothes and no one would think twice. Which is what I love about where we live.

I love this town. You can carry a pot of coffee or a jug of tea and no one thinks twice. Cause that's actually the funny thing. I saw your pot of coffee. I didn't think about it until our team was like, did you literally bring your entire pot of coffee? Well, I'm being super cautious because of this new room. It's the first time I've been here. Thank you.

And this is in my warehouse. But I haven't said I've heard a lot about it and and it's awesome. But I knew that your set is so white and clean, and so I'm a little kinda self, I just, I'm dirty, and I was like, don't spill this, don't mess anything up, especially being the first time. But you are welcome here, this is the gospel, you feel like dirty rags, but you are welcome

in this clean space. It was actually funny because I was gonna sit in the cute green polka dot chair, and dad was like, I'm not sitting on that white couch. I avoid white couches, white anything. I cannot be on white, cause I'll mess it up. Hey, well thank you for the respect. Well, I am so excited to dive into just your story

in this book, but first I do have a little something sweet to show you you and so you have to watch this. Is this weird interview? Dogs? Did he write his very own book? Are you so proud of him? Is it mine? Yeah. Is it my books? Yeah, your books. Smile. Smile. Isn't that so sweet? That is awesome. I thought she was saying, is it my book? But she said, is it my dubs?

So cute. So. She is the best. Is it weird interviewing me? It is weird interviewing you because this is the thing that I, this is the thing I struggle with everyone that I interview that I know super well,

like my father, is sometimes I don't do a good job interviewing because I get sidetracked that you're my dad, so we just start talking. Like me and Laney, you know, one of my best friends in the world, we always say after the podcast, we're like, dang, like we could've, like, I feel like we could've done that

better, but we get distracted and start laughing and talking. But true story, last time I interviewed you, you were the number one listen podcast of last year. That's crazy. I wouldn't have thought that. I mean, honestly, I wouldn't have thought it either. No offense to you, cause you're kind of a big deal. But also, my audience, I wouldn't think would be like,

you know. Artists mostly are probably more female. I mean, yeah, that's why I was so surprised. I mean, not really necessarily younger, 20s and 30s, I would say. We have a lot of college students, listen, I have a ton of young moms, but we have a lot of people in their 30s.

We honestly have all ages. We have people, we have all ages, which is what I'm so grateful for. But no, but you know what it was? We had such a good conversation, and I didn't act like you were necessarily my dad to ask grateful for. But I know, but you know what it was? We had such a good conversation and I didn't act like you were necessarily my dad to ask you the questions that I knew, but also gave you a good interview.

And so I really do want to interview you on this book. And I don't want people to miss the heart of it. Cause when you were on the podcast last time, we talked a lot about the blind, but we teased Godspeller. And I said, when this book comes out, you have to come back on and we have to talk more about it. So here we are, the book is coming out May 14th. So we're here.

Well, hang on, before we talk about the book, I wanted to bring up that, so your daughter, one of your daughters was in our bed. Oh yeah. It was a week ago. We gotta talk about that. And vomited all over me in our bed, like complete vomit. So that's the kind of intimacy, like you're interviewing me like Oprah Winfrey,

but I had your child that was just spewing like the exorcist. And I, I, it didn't get on my pillow. So I was so excited because I have my pillows. Mom gets, it was just like when y'all were kids. She is a spewing. And I'm thinking, could you not, you know, I'm thinking from mom's perspective, like, could you just like hung her over the, like, you know, hit the floor?

You know, like, so the first wave of it just went over and I thought, oh man, it's on the bed. And then, so she's like, she's throwing up. She had mom's giving the obvious, she's throwing up. I'm like, yeah, I can see it, smell it, feel it. And then the second one, the second one, it was like, boom, boom. And then again, I was like, just put, you know, but it wasn't the time for like, saying stuff. So mom gets up, she grabs her. And then we just went into work mode at like 3 30 in in the morning and I started gathering all the sheets and I pulled the comforter, I put that outside and I put all the other stuff in the washing

machine and then I went to, where did I end up? I think I ended up on the couch and then I don't know where they ended up. No, they were on the couch. So this is full circle moment last night. Well, they were on one couch. I was on a living room couch. You were on the other couch. So this is hilarious. Well, first of all, too, I was on a- You were on the other couch. I went to the living room couch. So this is hilarious.

Well, first of all, too, what was so funny about that is it was your birthday. Oh, it was my birthday. Oh yeah, that's what you told me you gave me for my birthday. I know. And I said to you on your birthday, I said, I have two presents for you today. One was calling you back, which was terrible,

but because- Yeah, I called you two days before. I know. Nothing, like no response, no text back. I know. But okay, so here's my thing. I got you a really good gift, like couple years ago, and I feel like I'm still running on that gift

of all the Bible, the commentaries. I felt like that was a good gift. I got you some good ones along the years. And I've been a little lacking since then, so I need to jump back. But this year I was like, okay, we're having a good conversation today, which we did.

And I said, and the second gift is, I'm gonna let Honey stay with you. Which- That was the second part of the gift. One was- You love Honey. The call back, and I actually texted you as well. I texted you a little list of what I wanted to talk to you about. I know, that's terrible. Because then I would forget.

Then you said, and you get to keep honey on your birthday. And then she puked all over my entire bedroom. So it was the birthday present that kept on keeping. Keep on giving, but don't worry. Thank you for that gift. That was bad, okay. But it was awesome, it was amazing. Well, it's for videos like that,

and then I get to see her. I know, but then she makes up for it. But I am going to get you another gift. Just wait. I'm pondering, okay? Well, speaking of the book, when you came in, because I want this story, because you posted it. Oh yeah, that was so funny.

Yeah, that you had the, you got the book before I got the book. I did. And I thought you were bringing me a birthday present. Yeah. That was late because you had something on your back. That was another one of my gifts. And that's what I thought you were giving me. And then thought you were bringing me a birthday present that was late because you had something on your back. That was another one of my gifts.

And that's what I thought you were giving me. And then you actually were the first one. And then I stole your copy. And then you stole it. And then I didn't get it till late last night. So I haven't even gotten to... I needed it. I didn't even have a copy.

I know. You did need it. So in this interview, guess how I had to prepare for this? I literally watched so many YouTube videos of you preaching gospel, which I've heard it. Like I've heard you preach it, but yes, I watched them. I watched like three this morning. How'd I do? You did great, fantastic.

The message is so good. But I have to say, you know, you're right. We do have such a close relationship. I see you every single day you're in town. We talk even whenever you're out of town. You literally kept my daughter and did it. You did, you gracefully accepted her, even though she threw up all over your bed

and still forgave her. But the full circle mode was last night, I was watching Survivor at y'all's house with mom, and I was laying on the couch and all of a sudden I was like, did someone throw up right here? And mom was like, your daughter did. Do you smell it? And yes, I laid, she didn't know.

She thought all the towels caught it. It did not. And I was laying. Oh, the smell's still there. Yes, so I did get some, that fire back. But anyways, thank you for still letting me have my Oprah moment. Although you just kept my child

that threw up all over you. That is true love and grace. But yeah, the book really is incredible. All the sermons that I've heard you preach on it have been incredible and so inspiring. I've actually referenced it a lot in interviews. People don't know that I have, cause I haven't stopped and said,

this is actually for my dad's book. But we talk about it so often, you and Christian talk about it so often. Y'all even did the 90 on one at church where so much of this came from. Christian was part of the Genesis. The start of it. Remember you had him keeping notes for you as you were kind of... So we've been along this whole message. So I know this message. I feel like I've been challenged to live this message. I got to go with you to Gateway, even in Dallas, when you preach that message. Kind of,, more at the start.

So I've heard it and continue to hear it develop, which has been so beautiful. And I actually feel like after the blind, even more developed for you from your own realization of how much Pebble Phil's life really represents this whole story. So it's been cool to see it from the start. But for people who don't know anything about God's speller,

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I'd written these American books, like American Hunter, American Fisherman, American Entrepreneur, and I thought, well, that'd be cool. Which I still may do a book like that, because go back through the history of kind of evangelists and preachers in our country. That'd be cool. But then when I started writing, I was like, this is not that. This is super personal and it's me telling stories. And so I wasn't quite sure what I was going to name it. And then mom came in and she had Google searched, I guess, evangelist. And she found this as a synonym and she goes, I found this cool word,

and you know how it is when you give it an idea, she was hoping it was cool, and it was like, will I think the same thing? And she said, it's called a gospeler, and I was like, oh, that's awesome, and it simply means one who shares their faith publicly or personally, and not like pastorial, it was more like a common person, like you're not

paid by the church or anything. You're just kind of... And so then I kind of dove into the Word and realized that it was really... It was in the common language, like people were called known God-spellers. like, it was in certain laws. It was like, it was all throughout, like in the 1600s, 1700s. And then the word just kind of went away, which I thought was super interesting because I felt like, it's kind of like people sharing their faith like that. It's kind of, you know, in some ways it's kind of gone away. And so, kind of like you think about that maybe in the past and I said, I think that's an awesome word. And most people, they'll say, gospeler. And as Corey said, we should have put two L's,

which there is a, there's another version of that word that is that. And, but when we, and then I'm acting like I'm some expert on the word. I'm like, no, it's pronounced gospeler. And that's only because I hit the audio thing to pronounce it, and that's what she said. So I'm hoping that, like, that's the way she pronounced the word. It's funny. So then I was like, okay, now I've got the name of the book.

I started writing the book. I still didn't have a subtitle, and I couldn't think of really what that was. And then this was amazing. We were doing, we have a lot of products coming out for Buck Commander that are optics. And it's got this little button you click, like when it gets kind of low light and you click this button, it really brightens it up. And the whole marketing campaign was turned dark to light. And so I was looking at literally all this business stuff and I was like, oh, this is a great campaign. I'm looking at all the, and I went, that's it.

That's the subtitle. And that's where we came from turning darkness to light, one conversation at a time. So that, so now I have the subtitle. And cause I'd called my buddy, Andy Andrews, who's a, who's a writer. And I was telling him about the book and he said, you need a subtitle.

And that's when we came up with that. And then I told him the name and I thought he may not like the name. I thought, he's probably gonna think, ah, it's too hard, you know, it's too confusing. He was like, ah, I love that name. And he said, why don't you name all your chapters, words that rhyme with God's speller?

I love that. It seems easy, like, or maybe it seems easy, but it's a little bit trickier, you know, to get the exact one. So the first chapter is swamp dweller that rhymes with gothspeller. I actually did not think that seemed easy whenever you said that. I was like, no, that seems so hard to rhyme everything with gothspeller. So I loved that y'all did that. Well, and probably eight of them were easy. And then the last couple were a little trickier

because there were some words that were a little trickier, because there were some words that were a little more obscure, but they were so good, like what the words meant. And so I wanted to use those as well. Because when he said it, he said like, old yeller. I never forget when he said that. And which is funny, I was determined to use old yeller, but I never used that as well.

It just didn't quite fit what I was trying to. See, that's what I would think would be hard about it, is you can think of things that rhyme, but does it make sense with what you're actually trying to say? Yeah, I did want to try to write to a name. Sometimes you'd be like, oh, I've got to write this to try to fit that. Kind of like some pastors do,

when they try to fit in. That's hard. Yeah, you can always tell. They have a great title, and then they got to come up with a sermon that fits that title. You can always tell. That's why, even with doing doing podcasts or people's podcasts, it's like, it's hard whenever they are doing a series and you jump into their series because then you're trying to make the message that God's kind of put on your heart fit their message and it kind

of just feels awkward. So it's- I've done that even speaking. Have you ever done that where they give you- Yes. Like you're going to speak at some deal and they're like, and the theme is this, you're like, oh, yeah. So you're like, okay, how can I? How do I merge the two? It's kind of like that movie you never saw, but it's this movie called Leap of Faith back in the

80s with Steve Martin. And he was a traveling evangelist, but he was kind of shady, you know? And so he kind of was like a money, you know, he'd come in and get their money. So one of the scenes is their place in bed. So they were all, he and all his crew were bedding, could he work a word into a sermon? And so they said, okay, the word is aluminum siding. And so then it just smash cuts to the sermon. It goes, aluminum siding is what it is

that maybe your idol, you know, it was so funny. And they were like, oh, he got it. So they had to pay him like five bucks a piece. That is hilarious. But yeah, sometimes I go to these things, I'm like, how am I gonna, you know, How am I gonna weave that? Work their title into what the speech

that I already had prepared. So I love that y'all actually rhyme, but also stayed on topic. I think one thing that's really cool about this book, by the way, I remember picking out the cover with you and you sending it to all the family and voting. And this was so perfect because it really shows that darkness to light transition.

But also like a lot of celebrities, will have their face on the cover of a book because that's a lot of the times what sells the book. And you have your face on the back looking good there. But I love that you don't have your face on the front of this book because this is such a bigger message than just your name, right?

This is like a message for really every church to get ahold of and not even church. I love how you really made a point that a gospeler is not just someone who's paid to preach the gospel. It's not someone in church. It's the common folk. It's the person who is preaching the gospel.

Well, it's the church. And for celebrities, I'll give them a break because a lot of times you might not want your face on it, but somebody else is saying, Oh, for sure. You have to put your face, but you're like, no, I don't have to put my face. But you know, a lot of those decisions are made.

That's all of my books. Every single time I say, I don't have my face on there. And every single time they say, well, you gotta have your face because it's your book. So I understand, I get it. I shop, you know, when I'm buying them at an airport and I buy somebody's book, I'm like, oh. Because you know the person.

I totally get it. So yeah. But I buy somebody's book. Because you know the person. I totally get it. But I love that this book in particular doesn't have your face on the front. Because it really is so much bigger than that. And you can sell any books because again, even on the Willis Good Podcast, you're the number one podcast. People know you, they respect you, they love you.

But this book really is bigger than just you. It's really for everyone. It's so good. It's not specific to like, oh, if you watched a dynasty or if you know Willie Robertson, it's like, hey, do you know Jesus? Do you wanna know how to get his name known? Then this is a book for you.

So talk a little bit about that. This is, everyone is supposed to be a gospeler if you're in the church. If you are a believer in Christ, you're supposed to be a gospeler. Cause that's kind of how 99.1 ministry started, as you and Christian were kind of navigating, how do people realize that they're

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That's pound two 50 and use the keyword baby or go to preborn.com slash Sadie. That's preborn.com slash Sadie. That's preborn.com slash Sadie. That's preborn.com slash Sadie. Well, how do we help empower people to know that they can, to do this? One, you have to start with, is it your goal? Is it something that you think is, I think in the book I caught it, is it part of the deal? Because I think a lot of people come to faith and I think later on they'd be like, I didn't

know that was part of the deal. I didn't know I was supposed to tell anyone else about it, you know. And I kind of make the case that what if it's the whole deal? The whole deal is about giving it away. It's about telling others. And so, like in the book, I start building out this premise of where this comes from. So you look at the Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, Jesus' life from birth to death to resurrection.

And so we can pick up a lot from what Jesus says, and He certainly said that. I think Zacchaeus comes to mind in that story where He says, look, salvation has come. The Son of Man came to seek and save what was lost. Very specific on why I'm even here is to come and seek and save the lost. Now, I'm really interested once Jesus has come back from the dead, He's only here for a few weeks, and then He's, what does He tell people to do? Like, what's the last, you know, it's kinda like when we leave, like you leave and you're telling Christian

or I'm leaving and I'm telling my family or y'all or something to look, make sure, you know, here's what needs to happen. And so we can, I clue in right there to, you can clue into a couple of things, but especially what you may know of as the Great Commission is that the end of Matthew, it's 28, all authority has been given to me.

And he says three things there. He says, go make disciples, baptize people and teach people. And so those are three specific things. He doesn't say, go to church, try to be a good person. You would have thought he may would have said, go hide out. Like go, like it's sketchy right now. So go, everybody go, uh, what would we tell people?

Be careful. Be careful. Be safe. Yeah. You know, don't, you know, that's what we tell everyone. Like make sure you're safe. But the man who was just killed is not telling people to be safe, to watch out, you know, like it's, it's dicey right now,

wait for things to cool down. He says to go be active, and those are the three things. And so what I found was, well, in my life, if I'm not around any of those three things, like then maybe I'm on the wrong mission, which comes from the Great Commission, maybe my mission is wrong. So I felt like I've run into a lot of believers who, they just don't have the right mission. They're thinking, try to go to church, try to be good, try to maybe give some money, and that's the mission.

What happens is the mission's so small, it's like, then they're like, I can't figure out why my life is like, why don't I feel like I need something? Why do I feel like I'm not, you know, I'm looking for purpose, I'm looking for meaning. And I really believe it's because they're not going back to what Jesus said, this is your mission. So true. The other things like when he called Peter,

so he comes up on Peter and you've preached that a lot and so have I, love this story where he just looks at him. The only thing that he says to him is, I'm gonna teach you how to fish for people. And he goes, let's go. And so you realize right there, Peter knew from the beginning, it was the whole deal. It wasn't like, he was like, that's what we're gonna go do.

And then who do we see when in the book of Acts, when it starts, who gets up? It's Peter, It's Peter taking that back. So then Jesus says in Acts chapter one, he goes, the Spirit's going to come and you will be my witnesses. You will have power with that Spirit. You will be my witnesses. So what does that mean to be my witnesses? It's not the witnesses. I feel like he was like, you're going to tell people what you saw and you're going to tell them that I died, I was buried, and I came back from the dead.

And so again, it's after other people. Acts chapter two, Peter gets up in this environment that is still scary and says, men are visual, listen to this, you know, and you crucified Jesus, he came back from the dead. So he's doing all this for other people. And then 3000 people come that day. And then just start going through the book of Acts You crucified Jesus, He came back from the dead. So He's doing all this for other people. And then 3,000 people come that day.

And then just start going through the book of Acts and look at how it's mission after people, after people, after people. Stephen gets up and preaches, Stephen is killed. You're thinking, well, that's the end of it. Nope, not the end of it. Boom, Philip cranks up. And then, so you just go and watch how they're just

out there getting after it. And so, so you gotta go and watch how they're just out there getting after it. And so, so you got to go back to the mission. You're like, well, was that just for them or was that for everyone? And so, which is interesting on how you may would read and study the Bible is, is this just for these people or is this for us too? And I think it's for all of us. I think that mission was for everyone. And so, so once we can get that, once I can get someone to agree and say, okay, I think, then what had the whole, where the book came out of was when we were doing this training and we were teaching, Christian was part of that, actually in a church setting, then I started hearing what everybody thought about them sharing their faith. And what I heard

was a lot of excuses as to why we can't. It was like, probably number one was, I just don't know the Bible. I don't know it well enough. You seem to know it way better than I do, and that's why you can talk about it. I'm not confident about it. I'm shy.

It's not my gifting. It was just so many excuses as to why we don't bring that up. And so what I wanted to do with the book was to start breaking those down. You know, it's like when you were young and a child and all the things that you said you didn't wanna do or you couldn't do, and now you're dealing with that

with your children of like, yes, you can. And so you're trying to show them and like, taste this, you'll like this. And so it's, we realized with our children and I felt like that's probably one of the gifts that I have is as a teacher is to try to, cause I felt like Jesus taught that way. He was like, okay, let me think of how would you say this

to where this would make sense? It's like, ah, that makes sense. Like, it's not my gifting. How could I explain this? How would you say this to where this would make sense? It's like, ah, that makes sense. Like it's not my gifting. And I thought, okay, if you say it's not your gifting to tell someone else about your relationship with Jesus, then go tell your spouse that you're never going to mention their name to anybody that you ever meet or talk to. You're not going to mention their name ever because you're not gifted at that.

What would you think if Christian told you that? That would not go over so well. You would say, that's not a gifting, right? Yeah, that's not a gifting. That's going to pour out. Yeah. When you have a great relationship. I don't know how many times I've mentioned Cory or mom, we'll keep referring to her as mom, but I'm going to keep referencing that

because we have such a relationship. We're with each other every day, we're together. And I think when you have that relationship with Jesus, it's the same way. You can't, when it was, I can't help but talk about it. You know, we read that scripture in the Bible, it says, I can't help, how could I explain anything? How could I explain Doug Dynasty

without mentioning our relationship and our faith in Jesus? How could I mention anything that I've done without mentioning that because it's so ingrained, it's just like this, which is like a marriage, right? And that's why I think Paul says the mystery of marriage is like that mystery of Christ with the church. And so two become one, and you have this relationship. And even when you're not together, and so I'm not sitting here with mom right now, but I feel as close as ever. If I'm out of town or she's not there, like we still have this bond in this marriage. That's where the faith comes in. You know, so you feel like, oh no, we're together, whether we're

literally sitting together or whether we're literally sitting together or whether we're not. And then that'll start pouring out of your life. And so I wanted to start breaking those down and then getting into, okay, you don't know the Bible. So let's figure out how much do we have to know or should we know or could we know? And then at the end of the day, we should know about this.

Yeah. Because as I'm reading about these guys in the Bible, I mean, they knew it back and forth. What's strange is even the devil knew it. They all knew it. Jesus was on the, he's talking to the devil. They're quoting scriptures back and forth. When I mentioned Acts chapter two, Peter starts quoting Joel, you know, he's quoting stuff. And so when Philip runs into the Ethiopian

and the Ethiopians reading the book of Isaiah, and Philip goes, ah, he started right there with that very passage and taught him the good news of Jesus. What if he wouldn't have known that? What if he said, oh Isaiah, I'm not sure what that is. Okay, so then I go back to people and say, okay, so let's figure out, are you studying and do you have the desire to know it?

And what I find is a lot of people just, they just don't. They spend a lot of time doing other things. And so I said, well, let's figure out how we can work this into where you can start learning that. When you start talking to other people, when they ask you a question, hopefully that'll create a desire to say, people, when they ask you a question, hopefully that'll create a desire to say, oh, I want to know what that's, I need to go find that

out. And it's no different than like cooking or, you know, hunting or anything like that. Things that I know a lot about. When I'm, when I have that desire, I'll go find out, you know, I don't want to call my mom every time I'm cooking something, I'm like, mom, how do you do this? How do you do this? Yeah, how do you, what do you do this? And so now I get a cookbook, you know? Now, getting a cookbook doesn't necessarily, it's not gonna make me knowledgeable. Even reading it, I'm like,

but when you read that, when you start putting it into practice, and when you go, okay, this worked, this didn't work, then if I'm telling someone else how to do it, I'm like, get the cookbook, understand what directions, what do you need to get, what ingredients do you need to get?

But then actual the cooking part is a whole different thing. So knowledge is one thing, then we experience such playing into that. So the more that I've taught with people, a lot of the situations will come, it will become like, ah, I've dealt with a guy like this one time.

I dealt with someone like this one time. And so then you just have this big bank that you can use and say, ah, yeah, I've dealt with this. Then you're not intimidated. And also you're trying to help them, you know? And that's where it comes back to at the beginning with about Phil, because then I thought, if Phil and Kay had not become Christians,

their marriage would not have stayed together. I would have grown up a completely different life. I don't even know that I would be a believer right now. Maybe I'm angry. Maybe I'm like, ah, you know. And now that happens. So there's so much appreciation, which is why I started the book there, because looking back, I'm like, had that not happened, none of this stuff that we've done in the future,

there would have been no documentary, would have been no TV show. It's crazy. I don't know that you would have been born, because I met mom at a church, in a church camp, that was all new, that was all part of the fruit that was coming out of this new life. And so, yeah, man, that's the importance of it.

And so once I realized that's where I wanted to be and that's what I wanted to help teach people because you never know who they may be able to talk to to bring them to this side of it. And so I broke that down in the book. It was like, let's create the desires, create where that is. Let's break down the excuses. And then I actually give people the little pattern that I do, and it's about seven passages. So it's not something super complicated.

I love that you did that, by the way. It's a study guide plan, you know? It's like, go study these seven places. This is kind of where I take in. So we talk about story, and in that, I give my story. So what I'm doing is, when I'm writing, I'm telling you my story, and part of it's confessional, it's like, this is my story, but it's part of what you're probably gonna do when you talk to someone else. Where are you at with the Lord? You know, where do you wanna be? What's your story? Everyone's got one. And

most people are super open to telling you what their story is. Which, I love this so much because that is how you go about preaching the gospel to people. I've seen you baptize so many people in the pond, in a hot tub, wherever you are. Like also pause for the pouring of the coffee from the pot. But I've seen you, and it's so casual. And what I love about it, because okay, like for me, for instance, I've, you know, seen it taught and I love the people who I've seen teach this. However, that's just not my style.

Where people who will teach like, hey, go preach the gospel. And the way that you do it is you meet with someone, you sit with someone and you say like, if you die today, do you think that you're gonna go to heaven or hell? I've seen people do that. I love people who do that, but I just, that's so unnatural for me.

And I don't feel like that's the way that would go about it. But for me, I love people's stories. And I find like asking people their story, being interested in their life, actually building a relationship, you get to one thing or another. And if they don't have a relationship with Christ,

it just is, it becomes obvious because there's something missing, then you have something to talk about. And so I just love how natural it is. And that really is what Jesus did. Whenever he met with Peter, like you said, he's like, hey, I'm gonna make you a fisherman. So he met with him on something he was passionate about

and then put purpose behind it. We didn't see that anywhere else. I mean, it's so cool. That wasn't the, so what we do is, I think sometimes they will get locked into the method. The method. So we're like, what's your method get locked into the method. The method. So we're like, what's your method?

But it's not like that. This is the method. This is just one way. If I ask someone, if you die, would you go to heaven? And I've asked that question to someone. That's one way to do it. Anything I can say to someone to get them to start thinking and opening up about their story and who they are, then I may use that.

And it may go to what they, it may be something way out. Yeah. But you know, time for I can do that. It's specific to the person. And it's, I love it. It's not a method. It's so relational. And I've had people that, yeah,

I've said things that I wouldn't say to everyone else. You know, like one girl that I got to actually baptize a number of girls in juvie one time because I sat with them for seven weeks and did a freedom series. I wasn't expecting to do that. I literally showed up so randomly. I joined a group that a church was going with

and the lady who started it was having a hard time connecting with the girls and she said, they seem to be responding to you. And so we built a relationship and there were things that I questioned them on that maybe I wouldn't question someone sitting at a coffee shop, but where they were at in life and things that life

led them to, it kind of prompted some harder questions, you know, but yeah, that was the thing. And they were asking me harder questions than what most people ask me. And so, you know, yes, you have to be relational. You have to read the room. You gotta know a person. And I love yes, you have to be relational. You have to read the room. You gotta know a person. And I love how what you talk about too is like,

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We care about some people. We care about people in our lives and our circles. We care about people we may agree with. And maybe we care about our church people. But man, there's some people that it's hard to care for. It's like, oh man, they're so rough. And then all of a sudden we start thinking we're better than them. Jesus came for us and they for, you know, it's like, oh man, they're so rough. And then all of a sudden, we started thinking we're better than them. And when Jesus came for us, and they better, you know, maybe they can if they,

and so man, it's caring for those people. Like Zacchaeus, nobody cared for that guy. Yeah. He was very unlikeable, and you could just tell even in the little writing there is, I just tell you, he's just like, he's a guy that no one liked. No one's questioning Jesus on why he was even talking to this guy and hanging out with him. But Jesus cared about him just like he cares about me and you and people that are so undesirable and just are caught up in their loss. That goes back to Phil. It goes back to when I watched the movie

The Blind, I was like, I don't know why mom didn't just leave. I think I would have advised her at my age right now, I said, yeah, you probably need to ditch that one, start over, God's got a new plan for you. There's somebody else that could be way nicer. And I started separating and even caring because of the actions. And I'm so thankful that she cared enough

and trusted God to realize that that was, but there are, and then what happens is, is people come up to you with different, it doesn't always start at the same place. It's like, because when I go through, I go through story, let's talk about your story, but I am intentional. Like you mentioned, I watched you baptize people. I'm not just listening to people's story, but I am intentional. Like you mentioned, I watched you baptize people.

Like, I'm not just listening to people's story, like, just to hear it and go like, oh, and so many times, you know, we'll hear something, but like, I'll be praying for you, you know, and even in the world, I think sometimes I was like, is that it? You know, it's like, do I have some answers for them? Do I have something that can actually bring them hope? And am I looking to actually, I'm looking for change. And so I'm looking for them, if they need to, or if they desire to, to change their life. And so I'm going to be kind of a closure, if you will. You're like, where does that come from? I'm not judging them, but I'm like, after Peter preaches in Acts 2, at the end he says, with many other words, he warned them and pleaded with them,

save yourself, miscorrupt generation. And in other situations, we would do that in a heartbeat. We'd be like, you're going the wrong way. You know, like somebody race past you and you're like, you're fixing that. You know, like I see a police officer post it up and somebody passes me going 90. And I'm like flashing my lights, like you better slow down buddy, you're gonna get a ticket, you know? And so, and if I see things in their life, or if I see like, it's easy for me to think that

if I'm like, the way you're living your life is, maybe it's damaging you and I care about you, but you're destroying other people's lives as well. You're hurting your children. But then I'm like, I can speak up for them and say, I'm looking for change and I'm looking for that. And so we go from the story, then we go to the cross and the line,

which in Galatians five is generally where I start. And it's the simple nature versus the fruit of the spirit. Very clear line there. And what I try to do is just help people to figure out which side of this line are you on. I'm not judging. Most of them, I don't even know who they are. I'm just like, if you're not in the right place, let me see if I can help you. And then we'll end up with, you know, where you take the idea like a baptism that comes up later, but sometimes somebody may walk up to me and say, Willie, I want to get baptized. So they're actually starting way past, you know?

I was actually going to bring this up because I remember when I asked you to baptize me, I don't know if you remember this, but you were like, do you feel like you understand what this is? And then you read the passage to me, had me go read it, and then told me like you would baptize me. It was a couple months out. It wasn't like, you weren't like, yeah, I me go read it, and then told me, like, you would baptize me. It was a couple months out. It wasn't like, you weren't like, yeah, I'll go baptize you.

You really wanted to make sure I understand. I was thinking about this because earlier you said, sometimes you think about explaining it like you would explain it to a kid, you know, just how Jesus did. And yesterday, actually. So Honey's been trying to learn how to swim. Swim lessons have not been going so great for us. And she was jumping in the pool yesterday to swim to Christian. Speaking of baptism. Yeah, exactly.

She was jumping in the pool to swim to Christian, and she wasn't doing it. Like, she was just not swimming. And you know, she's so well spoken. And she goes, Mommy, I just, I don't understand why I can't swim. And then she said, you know, I'm just trying, you know, and I just can't do it. And she kept saying, you know, and she was really like trying to ask me like,

I don't understand why it's not clicking. And I said, well, honey, you don't understand how to swim because you haven't learned how to swim. Like you have to, you have to let me teach you. That's why you go to swim lessons. Like I know you're frustrated about swim lessons. She really hates it. I know you're frustrated. I know they scare you.

I know it's hard, but that's what's teaching you how to swim. And you're not going to understand how to swim until you are taught how to swim. And I think that that is like, so the heart of this book of like, how are you going to understand if you're not taught? How are you going to understand if you don't study?

How are you going to understand if you don't learn? And that's- Who will bring it to them unless- Yes. How would they know? Yeah, they're actually in specific scripture. Yes. Yeah, there you go. Because also when you're doing that, Sadie, you're realizing, one, when you learn how to swim, it's going to save, it could potentially save your life.

Save your life. It could potentially save someone else's life. Right. Because you know how to swim. But outside of that, even in our lives, think about how much enjoyment you've had in your whole life. Think about how much I've had at my age. From swimming. From swimming.

That's so true. Yeah, just from jumping in the ocean and not being fearful that I'm gonna drown. And so you think about, I think about all of that and think, so when you go down, Honey would be right there at the line. Like she's at that line of, I don't get this. I don't understand.

And so you're like, we're gonna teach you this. And once you realize this, man, you're gonna have your whole life of enjoyment, of confidence, of not passing away. Just think about all the ideas of that. And so, yeah, that's another great example of like, this is where you cross over. And then I think for me too,

because I know sometimes mom will be like, it's hard, she's like, ah, because you're having to get in and you're having to tell people specific things. I would love to just go, I think you're fine. You're good. You know, in my eyes, you're good. You know, but I'm, but people are asking me like questions and they're not quite, they're not sure. And so they're saying, what do you think? And I think for some people, you know, I've talked to people and I do bring this up and I say,

well, maybe the reason your life is not, it's not going the way it's supposed to be is because you don't have the Holy Spirit. So we know that the Holy Spirit, cause Acts chapter two, that's where the Holy Spirit is mentioned. Acts chapter one is when the Spirit shows up. And then Galatians five, it says the Holy Spirit is mentioned. Act 1 is when the Spirit shows up. And then Galatians 5, it says the fruit of the Spirit.

Here's what's going to pour out love and joy and peace and patience. These things will pour out of the Spirit. And so then the question is, do you even have the Holy Spirit? What if you've been trying to do this? What if she's trying to figure out how to swim but she doesn't know how to swim?

That's where she's like, I can't figure this out. And so if you just arbitrarily, if you're just like, I've been trying to figure this out, I've been trying to live my life, but it's not there. Maybe you don't have that spirit. Maybe the journey didn't start the way it needed to start. Maybe they didn't understand Jesus and who He was. Acts 19, and I put that in the book too.

It's an interesting passage where they, you know, He comes up on these disciples and He says, "'Did you receive the Holy Spirit?' And He goes, "'We didn't even know there was a Holy Spirit.' And so, and He said, "'Which baptism did you get?' And He said,

"'John's baptism.' And then He explains, "'John's baptism was a baptism of repentance. There's a Holy Spirit.' Then they were baptized again. And so he explains John baptism was baptism of repentance. There's the Holy Spirit. Then they were baptized again. And so I've always asked that question in my mind, like, why were they baptized again? Why don't you just explain it going,

that's why I just don't tap people in the back going, hey, good job, you'll figure it out. But there was some reason, right? There was some reason. And so some of the people that I've baptized were baptized as a little kid or something. Maybe, you know, and usually I get that in the story. So usually the question I would ask is like, hey, when did you start following Jesus?

And then, you know, if that happened then, usually my next question is, how's it been going since then? And then I hear this story and it's like, oh, you know, this is rough. It doesn't sound like there's any of the fruits of the Spirit. It looks more like the beginning of Galatians 5.19, the Acts of the Simple Nature, where it says,

those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. That's what their life sounds like, looks like, smells like. I even ask people, if you're not sure who you are or what you're doing, let's just ask people that hang out with you. Let's ask your boyfriend or girlfriend or spouse or let's ask the people you work with. They'll probably be like,

oh, that guy, let me tell you about him. And so, and then it's like I tell together a day, like, why do we expect, we hope we're known in heaven as something totally different than what we're known as on earth. And so those are the questions that I have to walk through with people and so those are tough, you know?

And it's not, again, it's not judgments. It's just kind of like laying out the facts of like, this is who you are, this is where you are. If you're here, there's a possibility that you're not a God, you know? And I think a lot of us, that's what, they're like, oh yeah, I don't wanna be in that seat. I don't wanna do that. But it's, you know, we'll be in that, that's what, they're like, oh yeah, I don't wanna be in that seat. I don't wanna do that.

But it's, you know, we'll be in that, that's what a marriage counselor has to do. That's what a judge has to do. That's what a police officer, you know, they have to, that's what a doctor has to do. He can't say like, well, I'm seeing some things that look a little bad, but hey, you know what? You look pretty good, so go out there.

You know, they're like, this is what I'm seeing. And so I talk about, and I actually, I talk about a lot of those ideas in the book. It's like you're a doctor. It's like, you're like, look, here's the, at the end of the day, the doctor knows a bunch of stuff about maybe what you've got, but he goes, here's a problem. Here's how we think we can fix it.

Do you want in or not? And do you want to say, I'm all in and we'll go and we'll see if we can try to fix it. And so, and that's a deal. Or it could be like a counselor where it's, where you're coming in going, look, I've got some issues and you just, and sometimes these are people you know, sometimes they're not. I'll tell you this, Tuesday, a couple of days ago, I was sitting in the lounge at the I was sitting in the lounge at the airport. So a guy walks up to me and he looks at me and goes, I know who you are.

I said, nice to see you. He said, I just know, you know. And then I said, where are you from? And he tells me, and he sits down and he said that, well, I appreciate what all you guys do. I'm not exactly where I need to be in my faith. And then I looked at him and I said, why would you say that?

Like, why would you bring that up? Why would you bring that up as one of the first things? And then he sits down beside me and we went right into it. Total random, total stranger. And I started right in with him with his story. What was his story? He had a lot of church stuff, weird church stuff that he was, you know, hung up on.

And I said, well, look, the church is not exactly how you're looking. Like that's what you grew up in, but it may be different. And so made that connection, made that contact with him and so it can happen anywhere. He said, I didn't even plan on coming over here, I just thought, you know, I thought I recognized you. And I said, well, maybe that's the spirit, maybe that's how the spirit moves.

And so he puts people in our lives. And so, and I was thankful that I had, he said, you're like some kind of wise bearded Buddha. I thought that was kind of wise bearded Buddha. Which I thought was kind of awesome. Nice, awesome. You wise bearded Buddha. So we had that here, and I walked out of there, and then I was walking down there, and I see a guy with like a Jesus shirt on, and then he said, he said, balls hog.

And I turned, because my name's not balls hog, and he said, are you with the balls hog group? And I was like, I've never heard anybody say that. And then, but I realized he was probably, he said, I follow and he actually followed mom. And then he wanted to pray. So we start praying there right in the middle of the Atlanta airport, hands on, the whole thing. It was just, it was just, that was like two days ago.

So I felt like when you're out there, when you're active, when you have these stories, is what I'm reading in the New Testament. And, you know, there's a... I mean, I tell my gospel story in there, but at some point I was like, you know, I've done a lot of stuff in life and I've always shared my faith and just been passionate about that since I was young. But I really wanted... I don't want to be known for just TV and making money or whatever, you know, what are all the things that we've done. I really want to be known, I don't want to be known as someone who shares their faith

and who has answers for people. Because what will happen is that if people then start bringing people to you, they'll be like, you need to go talk to this person. Because we think about other things in life, we do that all the time,, you need to go talk to this person. Cause we think about other things in life. We do that all the time. Like, you need to talk to him. You need to talk to them. Yeah.

And so, and then when they come in and man, you're like, all right, let's start on the back and then going through it. And, and I feel like I've got the answers because I've got the hope. And I'm only here for like, I don't know how much longer I'll be on earth, but it's not that long. And while I'm here, while God has His church or His ecclesia on this earth, you know, think about what we can do.

Because once we're in heaven, you know, we're there, but we can't. And so, for our generation, for our people, man, I just want to get out there and share. And that's what I read through the book of Acts, man. That's what they were doing. So in the book, I go from pretty much Acts one to Acts nine. So good. When Saul gets converted and all that, and just look at those patterns.

And I just love those stories I read on, just like so excited. But then I've got a lot of my stories in there of conversations that, you know, I mean, I tell the story of Big Bill, a good friend of mine who I could not, I kept trying to share the gospel with Scott. Big Bill, that's such a great story. He was so rejecting it.

He just did not want to hear it. And finally I said, Bill, I think you're going to be dead in 14 years. That's how the conversation started. See, sometimes it's all about the person and you knew that relationship. And I can see Big Bill, that would maybe be the only thing that would, that would wake him up. They finally got his attention. But. Y'all, I love summertime.

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of what you've always preached. And as you've probably been hearing, Dad, he jumps from scripture to scripture to scripture. And you might be saying, I wish I knew the Bible like that. And you can know the Bible like that. It's from studying the Bible. It's from reading it.

It's from becoming a gospeler and teaching it, getting in there and doing it. I love how he kept saying too that so often, it's like when everything's get serious where we go, Oh, I don't want to have anything to do with that. But in how any other circumstance that you wouldn't do that, you know, when it comes to surgery or a doctor. And it made me think of my senior year of high school. So I already knew I was maybe going to take a little bit of a different path, but it was like, you could job shadow anyone. And one of my best friends at the time,

her dad was a doctor and actually like very high up at this hospital. And he said, well, if y'all wanna, you know, job shadow a surgeon, y'all can do that. So that would be so cool. Like, I'm probably never gonna do this in my life, but why not? And so me and her job shadowed a heart surgeon

and they had open heart surgery that day. We got to sit in an open heart surgery. I definitely almost passed out at the beginning. I had to step out, literally pretty much passed out because you know I always pass out. But then re-entered the room and got to see the most incredible thing, I mean, ever, truly.

And I really should preach on this more because it was just such an incredible experience. But this woman, her heart was literally failing. So they had to completely like, the heart stopped, like literally stopped. Like she's like, should be dead. And they take this vein out of her leg and then they literally sew it into her heart.

And again, this is me watching from a high school perspective. I'm not a doctor. So if you're cringing at how I'm explaining this, I'm so sorry, but this is what I saw with my own eyes. They sew the vein in, they stitch it in, and her heart begins to beat again. And it was just the most amazing thing. So she lived.

And I think that, you know, when you think about that situation, if a doctor tells you your heart is failing, it's not going to survive like this, you would say, well, tell me what I need to do. Okay, well, we're gonna need to take this vein from your leg and we're gonna sew it in and it's gonna beat again.

Now that is an extremely hard surgery. That's a scary surgery. That's a surgery that's gonna take a long recovery road. But from this new blood, from this new place, it beats again and she has her whole life ahead of her. And so that's essentially in the same way. And sometimes what it's gonna look like with your faith, like you might have a dying heart,

your heart is dead to sin. And by the blood of Christ, it will renew you, give you new life, a new beat, a new step. And then you turn this other way and it might be a little road to get to that becoming natural, you know, again, for that becoming, that new beat to really push you into motion because, you know, there is gonna be that,

that, you know, you're going from the acts of the sinful to the acts, to the fruit of the spirit, you're literally going from dead to life, you're becoming a new person, that transition isn't as natural as like a miracle. That's like a full leaning in, dying to self, you're becoming a new person, that transition isn't as natural as like a miracle. That's like a full leaning in, dying to self, becoming new in Christ.

But man, it's the best thing you can do for your life because without it, you don't have new life. And so this book is truly an outpouring of love for people to truly know what it looks like to have new life, to know what it looks like to have the hope of heaven, and to know what it means like to have new life, to know what it looks like to have the hope of heaven, and to know what it means to not just keep that for yourself, but to share it with other people. And so... And two things I want to say about that. One is when you were talking about the surgeon, right? We're like,

who's the most important person in the surgeon? Which is true, but think about the other things. I was just reading this morning about a good friend of mine who he's a famous guy and he just had a massive heart attack. But here's the part of the story. So, and then he's alive and the surgeon fixed him and put stents in him and all that. But this just, as I was reading the article

and it said I died twice on the way to the hospital. Now that's all it said. But now think about this. Somebody helped him, brought him back to life before he ever got to the surgeon. Yeah, it's true. Somebody in an ambulance. Kept him alive.

Kept him alive. The person in the ambulance is not living in the 5,000 square foot house and driving the Mercedes, probably like the surgeon. This is, these are people who are like know what to do. And you think about all the people that played into his life before he got there. So sometimes I think we think, well, the surgeon

or maybe it's the pastor. We're gonna know it all. There's so many other people. That's good. That's true. That can play into. So true. And you can play into someone's life. And the other thing is, as you were saying,

I think probably, there's a lot of people that are gonna hear this are like, it ain't me, buddy. I'm, man, I'm just not. When I get my life together, maybe I can, when you think about Peter and Acts chapter two, Peter and Acts chapter one Peter and Acts chapter 1 Turned two pages before at the end of the Gospels

And you'll see the very guy who was doing that was the very guy who denied even knowing Jesus. That's true And now here he is Stepping up. It is not that far in time. This is not ten years later This is in a matter of days or weeks where, and then Jesus actually showed up to Peter and said, look, I need you to feed my sheep. You know, you get back on task now. And so I think for everybody listening, especially if you're a believer and you're like, man, I'm not the one. I'm just not anybody that should be telling anybody else about anything else. Peter did that and he did it fast. And part of that almost held me back from writing the one, I'm just not anybody that should be telling anybody else about anything else. Peter did that and he did it fast.

And part of that almost held me back from writing the book, which I write about that when I'm talking about my gospel story is, you know, there's things I've done, I'm like, I'm just not the guy. Like it needs to be someone else. And man, what happens is we just disqual, everybody is, we don't have to get canceled, we're canceling ourselves.

We're just canceling ourselves out going, because it's safer, right? It's safer if I step out and say this, then people are gonna go, what about you, big boy? Especially non-believers, they're gonna let go and all your, but golly, which me and you talk about this all the time, especially in the church, like, we're so brutal.

She's so true, brutal. We're just like, throw them out, get them out. And we're just doing all this. And all the time we're doing that, we're forgetting about the person laying in the ambulance or laying on the deck who desperately needs someone who can help them. There's a lot of times, had they went in and gotten checkups,

had they went in and said, check my blood, check this. But what happens is my buddy was doing his thing and just went, you know, and it wasn't, you know, and by that time, man, you're down to critical. And so I would rather talk to people, like in the gospel, I'd rather talk to them before they're literally laying with their chest open, where we're at that point, like where Phil was.

Your family's kicked out, divorce is imminent. This is all like that. And by the grace of God, thank God that Phil and Kay were, Phil came to the Lord, Kay came to the Lord, that Kay forgave him, they came back together. But I think we can find it, we can diagnose this way before just by starting to have these conversations, knowing some answers, studying the Word.

And I think a lot of us says, we have the time. It's just look at the budget of your time. How much time do you spend on watching all these things and just see if you can start putting in things that can help you know the Word. I watch a lot of sermons and I watch a lot of communicators and I listen to podcasts and especially stuff where I'm learning the word and I can,

so it's not, I think we're like, studying the Bible is like eating healthy, like you tell my mom eating healthy, she's like, well, I just gotta eat a bunch of broad chicken. That's what she said that day. I'm like, mom, there's more to eating healthy than just broad chicken, but that's her idea. Her idea is it tastes terrible and I don't like it.

So the idea of opening a Bible and people are like, that's her idea. Her idea is, it tastes terrible and I don't like it. So the idea of opening a Bible and reading it, and people are like, that's boring. Well, find someone who can really communicate it in a great way. You know what I'm saying? You can communicate it in a way where people are like, oh, that was such a good deal. But also I learned a piece of God's word. And so start making those changes. I had a guy come in my class and he goes, Willie, I don't have the gift of reading the Bible. And I said, that's not a gift. Yeah. You're not gifted at reading the Bible. It's just a discipline. You read the Bible, you study it because you want to help someone. So, and then I think we've got to move from this notion of a lot of us, Sadie, we're reading it and we're doing all this, but it's all for our benefits.

Like, I need to know, I need to know. So what happens is we get so inward with our religion, everything's inward and it's not, and I'm telling you, it's about, I think Jesus' message was, you got it, great. Now, go give it a bath. I don't think God cares as much about, you know, if you're showing up to church

or if you're checking the boxes of you're more devotional, He cares if you're caring for know, if you're showing up to church or if you're checking the boxes of your more devotional, He cares if you're caring for people, how you're reaching people. And honestly, we could sit here and talk literally all day and that's what we do. We, people, someone asked me recently like, what does it look like being raised in your family? I was like, a lot of talking about the Bible,

but it's because we all love that. It's because that's what we love and we love to talk about. And I was thinking with the analogy, we'll bounce back with each other, different analogies and half the sermons that I preach, my analogies come from conversations with you and mom, but even in the surgery analogy, think about this, you don't have to be the surgeon,

you don't have to be the guy, but you know what you also don't have to be? Because open heart surgery, a lot of times it's a heart transplant. You don't have to be the person open heart surgery, a lot of times it's a heart transplant. You don't have to be the person that died because Jesus died to save. So he gives you the new heart. He died so that you can have new life.

And we're all scared of dying, but he took that sting away. Like you don't even have to die. He actually offers himself, gives you the new heart. You don't even have to be the guy that stitches out air. You're one, you might be the person on the operating table, but two, you might be the person that just led them to the place to getting that.

And so this whole analogy, you can think about forever and it's so good to just dive into, but this is the fun of knowing Jesus. It's a well, I mean, it's constantly something new to discover. It really is fun. It's not boring, talk about to discover. It really is fun. It's not boring, talk about the Bible.

It's the most fun, exciting thing, and you could talk about it all day long. This morning, I was listening to a podcast. I didn't even understand half the things they were saying, and I thought, I'm gonna listen to that again. But it was so deep in scripture, and I've been in church my whole life, didn't know any of that.

And so you're constantly learning, you're constantly learning more about the gospel, and then you constantly share. So dad, we could talk about this all day. Y'all gotta go get this book, Gospeler. Thank you for being on the podcast. Again, it's a total world that's good every time you're on. So thank you. It's a pleasure to be here. you