WHOA That's Good Podcast - My Best Friend Has a New Book Out! | Sadie Robertson Huff & Laney Rene

Episode Date: February 7, 2024

Sadie and Laney have been best friends for years — starting when they were single — and now they're both married with children of their own! Today they're talking about the moments in their friendship that made them so close, and particularly, walking through really hard seasons. Laney shares her family's heartbreaking tragedy of losing their baby boy and how through it all, she was able to find peace and even hope. Laney encourages us all that since we have the hope of Jesus, we can't despair and tells us why she'll never stop talking about her son. And they get into why "daughter" is such a profoundly moving term for both of them now. Find Laney's book, "Daughter: Becoming Who You Already Are," here: https://laneyrene.com/shop/ https://www.drinklmnt.com/whoa — Get 8 single serving packets FREE with any LMNT order! https://give.cru.org/good or text GOOD to 71326 — Get a free copy of Sadie and Christian's new book "How to Put Love First" with your monthly gift! - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What's up friends? Happy Wednesday everybody! Welcome back to the WoW That's Good podcast! Y'all, I truly do hope you're having a good week, but if you're not, don't worry, it's about to get so much better because we have the one and only Lainey Renee Pickens! My bestie girl back on the podcast. Hey girl. Hey girl. I thought you were going to say my name like Lainey Redahl. Well you know, it takes everything in me to not except for I already did get it out of

my system because when I came around the corner and I saw you on that big TV I said Linda. So I already got out my botch in your name. For those who haven't listened to our other podcast, I call Lanny a different name almost every time I say her name. It's Linny, it's Linda, it's Lulu sometimes. It's become a lot of things. You're still a little dip mama in my phone. It's also big dip papa.

I didn't know if I was going to go there, but here we are. Oh my gosh. I thought you changed mine. Oh, did I change it? I still, I thought you did. Well, I think in your title, like, you know when it says like what your title is like your job description, I think it's Big Dip Papa. Oh.

That is your job description. Oh my gosh. Well, I'm so glad you're back on the podcast. We're going to be talking about a new book Lainey has out that is absolutely incredible called Daughter. But before we get into all that, Lainey, give us a little insight of what your life is like right now. Man, life looks like I'm a wife. I'm a mom.

I have a little girl. She's three years old. Her name is Ronnie Grace. She is just incredible. We have a little boy, she's three years old, her name is Ronnie Grace. She is just incredible. We have a little boy in heaven, his name is Rory, and I just absolutely love talking about him. And I'm pregnant with a little girl, so we're expecting a little girl in April. And we also about a year and a half ago, or a little over a year and a half ago, started a ministry called The One He Loves. And it's really just for women to come and bring their friends to encounter the love

of Jesus. We don't really come with a huge plan or anything like that, but we just make a space for women to come and hear about the goodness of Jesus. And yeah, life is, you know, most of the days I'm with just my little girl and actually yesterday before I jumped onto a podcast to talk about the book, she, well, I'd gone into her room in the morning, I opened the door and the smell just like hit me in the face. I was like,

what is that? You know, and so I walk a little closer and it smelled like poop. So I was like, maybe did you poop? And she's potty trained. So I didn't expect her to actually poop. She's like, no, I didn't. Okay, well, I took her out her word and maybe I shouldn't have. So so we're downstairs eating breakfast and I'm like, man I still smell that smell. Is that your breath? So I get a little closer.

That lean down, I was like, maybe it is her breath because it almost stopped like smell like it was coming from down. Hey, sometimes it's like that though. I mean, even honey, two and a half, it shocks me. Her morning breath, I'm like dear gosh girl Let's go get that Elsa toothbrush. Yes But in this case it wasn't her breath so she goes to the bathroom And she calls for me just like mom

I pooped and so I go in there and I'm not kidding. There is poop on the floor No poop like poop on like the top Like poop on the top of the toilet, the bottom of the toilet. And then I put her in the bath and I'm like hosing her down. She's like, oh, by the way, mom, there's poop on the toilet. No. She's like, since we're already here, let me just go ahead and tell you.

This ain't all of it. That is hilarious. That is what life looks like. That is so relatable. Honestly, this morning we had a guest on the podcast that we have been trying to get on the podcast for a really long time and things have followed him through and their schedule is really busy and I was like so excited to finally have this person on the podcast. And like, Honey was still asleep and I was b I was bodily the house and I was like, okay,

you know, I normally like to tell her bye but this is probably for the best, you know, that I get out of the house before she wakes up because the timing was getting a little close to time. Of course, right before I walk out, it's like, mommy, and I'm like, oh no, oh no, oh no, oh no, oh no. And she just like falls apart. She wants me to say she wants to tell me all these things.

And normally, yes, I love it. That's why typically I like to be with her when she wakes up, but this morning I was like, oh shoot, I have to be there on time for this podcast. And then she wanted chocolate milk. And then she wanted all the things. And she is queen of stalling. She knows how to stall.

She'll be like, wait, wait, wait, big hug. You know something she knows will get me. So I'm like, okay, big hug. I came in running into this podcast. I was like, I had to be there. So man, I totally get that. It wasn't poop this morning. It was just the little things, but we've definitely had our fair share of poop

days and moments and all the things and And Honey's putty trained now too. Is she? Oh my gosh. She is. And it's so funny though because Ronnie really is one of her best friends and it, and it's so cute because like last night I could not get Honey to brush her hair. And so I pulled up your reel of Ronnie going to the hair salon and I said, honey, look, Ronnie got her hair washed and brushed brushed and so she watched Ronnie while I brush her hair.

That's amazing. It was really cute. I watched that video so many times. Well I actually watched it. I think she's, of course she's mine but. She's so cute. She's the cutest. I'm off social media right now and so Christian had told me, he's like did you see Ronnie's video?

And I said no but Sarah texted us today and I hadn't responded to it because I was like, I haven't seen the video. And so he pulled it up and then I was like, perfect. Look, honey, Ronnie's doing her hair, but Ronnie got bangs and it's the cutest thing ever. But I want to circle back to some of the things you said because even in just like your intro

of where you're at right now, there's so much to learn already from you and Clayton and the way that y'all live your life. One thing is that when you mentioned that you have a little boy in heaven named Rory, and then you said, and I love to talk about him. I think that that's something that as a friend, I've seen you do, and I feel like it kind of gives me

as a friend the freedom to talk about him with you. Like even as we were praying for this podcast and I'm like, thank you for Ronnie and Rory and your next little baby who's about to be here. And I think like in other situations in life, when people go through really hard things, it's like you almost try to avoid talking about it or bringing it up and you don't really know how

to approach it, but it's something that instead of kind of running away from, I saw you really lean into. And that was messy for a little while. That was figuring that out. That was finding hope through like searching God's heart and asking him questions. Can you talk about why it's important that you do talk about him?

And just kind of like when you say, I found hope in all those things, what that looked like. Cause I feel like some people are walking through those really hard things and they're like, man, I would love to, but I don't even know how to do that. Yeah.

I mean, I really feel like, like I said, like it has become a, I can't not because the hope of Jesus is so real. And I think it's in those moments that like, I read 2 Corinthians 4-8 a lot during that, and it just talks about, I know we've talked about this, but it says we are hard-pressed, but not crushed.

We are perplexed, but not in despair. And that, when I read that in that place where I felt like I was in despair, you know, when you walk through loss, when you walk through heartache like that and death on this earth, it feels so final, you know. But when I read that, even it was just like, what a, what a, what a promise that even though I feel like, you know, even though I'm very perplexed, like I don't understand why this happened or how it happened, you know, even searching myself, maybe I did, did I do something, you know? But just that truth that with Jesus, with God, we are not in despair. And if you look up the word despair, it literally means

without hope. And we literally means without hope. And we're not without hope. And gosh, I've just experienced, Bill Johnson talks about how like, I'm gonna butcher it because he says everything so perfectly, but he was talking about when we walk through pain, like on this earth, that that's something we won't experience that in heaven.

And the pain that we experience here is a way we actually get to connect with God that we won't ever again. And I feel like I've experienced that in a way of like, there were times like three days after I gave birth to him, I remember riding in my car and literally just saying like, how can I feel this depth of heartache? Like truly this depth of what feels like despair and yet at the same time feel such just great, deep,

hope and joy. And that's partly like so much of that had to is what poured into this book because and you know this there have been many seasons in my life. You know you walked with me through one of the most up until Rory really the most broken season of my life. And really the end of it, you were there to help me walk through healing and redemption. But I almost, that was like the first time I think I recognized like even though I walk through broken things in this world, I don't have to stay broken.

Like as a daughter, I can truly live healed and whole and celebrate and there's redemption to come. And another thing that really helped me through that season was Jeremiah 29-11. You know, we know that verse like the back of our hand, but I'm such a like when I read the Bible, I love like, I'll sit on one verse forever, like, and I'll just keep reading it, you know, and like, looking up what different things mean. Well, when I was walking to that season, I was like, I'm gonna look it up in the original Hebrew language. And when I read, if you don't, if you never heard the scripture, it's for I know the plans I have for you,

says the Lord plans to prosper you, not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. And when I read that, I was like, God, like, how could this be the plan that you had for my life? Like, I don't understand. Like, if this doesn't really seem like a good future or like there's a lot of hope in this. But when I read the original Hebrew word

that has been translated into future, it also has a meaning for past. And I just felt like God was just saying to me in that moment, like even the things that have already happened in your life, even the things that are done and seem final. I'm the one who can actually step into your past and fill it with hope and bring future out of it. Wow. And that is what has honestly like kept me going. Wow. And brought hope when it feels like there really is, you know, no hope in a situation. Y'all, managing electrolytes are so important.

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remember my mom sharing with me one time that she was in a counseling situation and she said something along the lines on, like, it's hopeless. And her counselor like stopped her and was like, don't ever say that. I listened to the bat the other day. Really? That's crazy. It like came up on my YouTube. Wow, that's so cool.

Yeah, I love that. Like mom said it kind of like took her by surprise because the counselor is like very like, hey, don't say that. Like that's a big thing to say and you're never without hope. And sometimes, you know, I feel don't say that. Like, that's a big thing to say and you're never without hope. And sometimes, you know, I feel like you really do have to, like for for what I saw you do, and I think that this is something that's so important for people to do is like, don't just say like, oh,

yeah, there's hope and just like try to force yourself to believe it. Like actually, actually do the work to believe it. Like you studied the scripture, you were like, God, it doesn't seem like there's hope or no, it doesn't seem good. Like show me. And then in the original context of like studying scripture in his heart and asking the questions, he answered you. He was like, Hey, even in the past, like past, present, future, I am your hope, I can redeem. And so like you leaned in and you allowed it to become like actually an anchor of truth. And I think like that's something that the book, becoming who you already are, like this is fact. This is who you are.

I love that. And you are so good at reminding yourself and others who you are. But this book and what you write in it, it's something that you have not always just been. It's something that you've become and that you believe and now you know and you speak with such authority. And even today on the podcast, I can just tell, like I've interviewed you a couple of times. I've been your friend for a long time, but there's like a new confidence even in your voice

and the authority you say things with. And I think you can only speak with that kind of confidence and authority when you are rooted in truth and you believe wholeheartedly what you're preaching. And I know you believe this message. So why did you feel like you wanted to tackle writing a book because that's no small thing. You already written one, you knew it's no small thing.

Why'd you want to write about this? I feel like for just something that I've just seen over and over, like the reason you even said becoming, like it's something that we keep learning forever. It's something that you're always like discovering and I remember reading Psalm 145, 3, and it talks about like there's no end to the discovery of greatness

That is God, you know, like there's always more of him to discover and I feel like you and I both have people in our lives Who are you know younger that we get to really just talk to and hear their stories and also Many people in our life who are older and wiser and our moms were so close to them and grandmothers and just generations of faith. But as I was talking to them, even they both were just saying like, my mom, my grandmother, like,

this is something you don't grow out of. Like it's a thing that you kind of constantly need to be reminded of. And I think it's also the thing that you kind of constantly need to be reminded of. Yeah. And I think it's also the thing that the enemy is always after. You know, the reason we have new life in Jesus is because of Jesus, you know, the son of God, he took, um, like we take his place. So of course the enemy is coming after our place in him, you know, as an identity. And I think I've just seen that, like, when I look back at when I was like five years old, you know,

already I can just remember like very vividly lies and stuff I heard as a five year old, you know, like, I remember my like church was having a Christmas play one year and me and my best friend both tried out and she got the part and I didn't. Well I wasn't upset as if I realized that she got the part at all. I really wasn't. But all I could hear was that they didn't choose me. That was the lie that I heard. And honestly, I've just seen that this is the only thing

that truly gives us confidence, you know? So many, like we've talked about just different women in our lives, like we all want that security, you know, no matter how old we are, like we're all desiring that security and I've found that I could never find it in myself. When I'm truly just like looking at me, I'm more insecure. But when I'm looking at who God is, I find just this supernatural confidence and security that has nothing to do with myself.

Yeah. And so I just feel like there's so much to it. I talk about it forever. I love it. It's just the unraveling of being a daughter and what that really means. I even grew up hearing like you're a daughter of the king. But for me that didn't really hit. It didn't register fully the depth of that. And until I was honest to the early 20s,

and we were walking really, I think that season together of just discovering like, God really is who he says he is. I'm really, you know, that valuable to him. He loves me that much. And suddenly there's just like an explosion of freedom and confidence in life. It's so interesting that for me I'm the same way with like things like Daughter of the King. I really like it, you know? And it's interesting to me because like as I've

gotten older, the things that used to feel cheesy to me now are like profoundly true and like wreck me. Like something like you're a daughter as a high school or you know right out of high school. If someone like your daughter can hear you're fearfully wonderfully made or you're this like it felt like oh that's just like what the church says and like this kind of like a cheesy like slogan. But then like when you understand who God is in a mature sense, and like you really understand he is such a good father, and you understand what Jesus did, and you know him to be holy, holy, holy, and you know him to be perfect in love and perfect in truth. And then you have a revelation that the creator of the cosmos,

the creator of everything in the world calls me daughter and says that I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Like I have this in my desk. I always have an ultrasound of a honey or hay bin nearby. the older sound of a honey or haven nearby. I have one in my Bible too. It's just like, because I look at this and like that verse, you knit me together in my mother's womb. One of those, again, you hear at the church all the time. But then when you get to like experience seeing like the evidence that God knits together humans

in a mother's womb and you're sitting here and you're just like, you know, drinking water, eating semi-healthy food and there's a baby being knit inside of you. There's nothing and you're not doing anything. And you're not doing anything and he's creating it and you're very aware of the fact that there's a creator creating something in you.

It's no longer anything cheesy about that. Like that is like the most incredible thing in the whole world. There's a creator creating something in you. It's no longer anything cheesy about that. That is the most incredible thing in the whole world. It just is amazing to me that typically I think it would be the other way around where you would think as a kid, you would think things are more amazing. As an adult, you think it's cheesy, but it's opposite. Maybe as a kid, because you don't have the full understanding, it sounds like just words, but when you're an adult and you understand and you're blown away by just the thought that, man, life is just so much bigger than you.

But the one who is bigger than you still says that you're loved enough to be daughter. That's crazy. And it's so true. I remember, just lies that you believe believe as a kid and it's not that the person was wrong for not choosing you and choosing your friend, but that's the lie you believe. It's the same thing with my dad and I love my dad, he's amazing, he did not put this on me, he did not intend to do this, daddy did not mess me up by doing this.

But it's one of those things where I noticed that the better I performed on the court when I played basketball, the more my dad was proud of me, right? And that's not on him. That's a natural response. But I didn't notice that how much I started striving to perform, like almost like my view of like him being proud of me, which in some ways I would relate that to his love for me, was how well I performed in sports. And I think that what I ended up doing

was the same thing with God, where it was like if I didn't perform well, or do something well, then I felt like he wasn't proud of me and didn't love me. And I remember having, during that same season with you, just this revelation of that's not true. And I remember having, during that same season with you, just this revelation of that's not true. And really, from reading this book that was talking about how when Jesus was baptized that day, it's before he went into public ministry, when he was baptized.

And God said to him, like, this is my son, like with whom I'm well pleased. And how God said that to him before he did anything public in ministry. And just like, it was such a cool concept to understand that God loved him for who he was before he did something. And that is what this book is really all about. That your identity is daughter before you do anything to deserve it, no matter what's going on in your life.

And it's just really cool for me to shout this book out that you wrote because it was a book similar to the message of this identity that really shaped my life. And so I'm so excited for girls who are gonna be reading this book, who are about to discover that truth. It's a period, you are a daughter.

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G-O-O-D, to 71326 to help now, or go to give.cruv.org. Message and data rates may apply available to US addresses only. I would just say too, you're in the book so much. Yeah, that's true too. That's true too. Because you really came into my life in that season where I was like really discovering that. Like I remember

in when you and I became friends, I mean there were so many things that I was already hearing like from God that you would just echo like you would literally like the next day like say that very thing and I feel like God's continued to put people in my life like that, like when I met Clayton, it was the same way, which is really cool. But also just going back to like, you know, just the performance thing, I feel like even just watching Yaroni now and like being her mom, you know, she's now three years old, which in the book, I tell the story of like really the moment that a lot of this became alive for me and it was when I had just decided I wasn't going to back up dance anymore. I was going to like quit a dream job and I just ended the long relationship and I just moved to Nashville and I remember just sitting in my apartment and saying, you know,

God, who am I? Like, I don't really know who I am anymore without all these things that I've found myself in for so long and titles that I was really proud of. And he reminded me of a video that my mom had sent me of me when I was three. And in the video, I like pick up the mic and I just say, I love Jesus. And I was just so sure of it and confident, but I just felt like God was reminding me, like the most important thing that you will ever be is simply my daughter and mine.

Like you have nothing to prove, you have nothing to hide. And so I even see that now when I look at Ronnie, you know, she doesn't, I don't need her to do anything for me. I'm like, I am proud of her from the moment I like, I knew she was, her heart was beating in my womb. And there's literally nothing that would make me not proud of her simply because of who she is. I have desires for her to know how love she is by God. I have desires for her to have a relationship with him

because I love her and I know that that will truly be the only way to good real life for her. But I don't have something I want her to do. You know, I don't have my own like achievements or successes that I think that she should have. I just, I just love her. And when I realized that even more, I'm like, gosh, God, like that's really how you feel about me. Yeah, yeah. For real. And yet often it's like one of the hardest things I think to receive and realize because

we live in this world and it is a lot of performance and timelines and things you got to show up for and it can feel like performance. But just that reality in the truth that he really does just love us like that. That's crazy. Yeah I mean definitely having a daughter does really kind of paint that perspective for you because you're like when you think about how much you love them and then you think about that he loves you like that it is like a a, wait, what? Like this is crazy. Cause you realize like, wow,

I really don't feel these ways towards her. Like I love her so much. And even when she pooped all over the trampoline in the bed and the wall, I'm like, I love you kid. I still love you. Like I still love you. Like you would mess, but I love you. And how you-

Even when I went to go clean it up, I'm like, what you know how am I just doing this I know it's just love it is it's crazy and it's so funny because like before you have kids I mean this is how I felt I was like oh my gosh how am I gonna handle like boogers like I just don't even know how I'm going to it's gonna be so disgusting I'm gonna throw up and when you have your kids like even when they're messed you, you don't care. That is God. He's like, you are a mess sometimes, but I love you and I'm proud of you. So I love that. One thing you talk about in the book, because you mentioned that our friendship is mentioned a good bit, which I'm honored and I'm grateful for. You talk about though, not letting your friends and what they

Like what they say about you should affirm who you are But it can't become like what their words can't become greater than gods You know you can't leave your friends when you're leaning on God Which is such an easy thing to fall into or actually having a conversation earlier about kind of this idea that It's easy to notice when you're feeling avoid with something bad It's not as easy to notice when you're feeling a void with something bad. It's not as easy to notice when you're feeling void with something good, but even if it's good and it's not God, it's a problem. And so how do you guard your heart in making sure your identity truly is found in him and not leaning on people to affirm you are more than the Lord, if that makes sense.

Yeah. Like I said, I always go back to it's called becoming because I'm standing. It's always happening, but gosh, I just, when I feel that, like when I feel like I'm trying to, because it can come out in a friendship, it can come out, you can come out in, I feel like I'm trying to, because it can come out in a friendship, it can come out, you can come out and I feel like any area of life where you feel like you're trying to do what pleases somebody else because you think it's the right thing to do and they will like it. So I'm going to do that when really like,

maybe your heart feels just not a piece about it. And there are times I feel like even to this day where like when I put this on today, I was like, is this me? And I was like, yeah, I really like it, you know, but but there was but there are times when I'll go and put it on an outfit and I'm like, man, I put that on for the wrong reason, you know, or I went to post that. And I actually really posted on for the wrong reason. You know, I went to post that and I actually really posted that for the wrong reason and I'll go back and delete it because I just, every time I see it, it's a reminder that I did it for the wrong reason. So I'm not a pro at it by any means, but I would just say like, you know, the growing in that and what really helps me is Taking a step back like quieting myself sometimes. I'll literally just go and sit on my

You know closet floor and just say you know God remind me remind me who who I am to you because that is what's the most important to me and Actually read and I actually read Psalm 118, or something like that this morning, and it was talking about like, it's better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man. And I think, you know, I tried to do that a lot in friendships at times, like just trying to really feel good about myself and I wanted friends so bad that I would try and be what they wanted me to be. And I think just putting your trust in the Lord

and like knowing that, you know, he really is where your confidence comes from, quiet yourself, cut out distractions, you know, get rid of social media for a little while if you need to and just go back to the truth of who you are, even though it's so simple. Like sometimes even when I say that I'm like, I know it doesn't sound that profound. Like you were saying sometimes when you're a kid, you don't realize how profound it is, but just I am yours. I am yours. That's the most important thing. Just being yours. That is more than enough. So if you have kids running around the house, you know it can be hard to keep up with toys and fun things that keep them engaged.

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patterns of this world but be transformed by the renewal of your mind and when you think about it like the reason why you constantly need reminders is because it's so easy to be conformed because the world is going in a pattern and when it's so easy to just go into that pattern and conform to that pattern, but it's like, no, to be transformed, you have to like renew your mind like daily,

like keep renewing your mind. And so for me, like almost every year, I've deleted social media in January. Last year when I deleted in January, I ended up staying off until August because I needed a little bit more time than I thought. This year I didn't delete social media in January. And then as of like a couple, last week I actually tell this story, but I had to tell the follow-up part of the story because it's crazy. But basically I told Christian I'd delete social media and he was like yeah you do cuz he knew I was struggling and Then and then this is the craziest part

I didn't and then the next day my Instagram broke like like shut me out like done like ex out like you can't come here Literally when I oh for sure so I click on the page it literally says like I mean I clicked on the app and it says page cannot be found and I'm like what even page can I be found like this is an app like this is never happened before so I was like what the world so I like delete the app read download the app and I'm like I know I need to lead it but like I would like to be the one that deletes it for myself like Instagram should not be kicking me out I was like did I get hacked and I know what happened so I I would like to be the one that deletes it for myself. Like, Instagram should not be kicking me out. I was like, did I get hacked?

I didn't know what happened. So I deleted like five times, root down like five times. I restarted my phone twice, not working. Like Christian's phone, which is also logged into my account, Xed my account off of his phone too. Like it was so weird. What in the world?

Okay, so this is when Maddie and Grant were here. And I was just kind of like, this is so weird. The next day, I ended up just kind of like having a super honest conversation with them about why I needed to delete social media because I was kind of being like insecure about different things and all these different asshirt on their podcasts.

I was like, it's just kind of gotten insecure about all this stuff and whatnot. Well, then I like say it on the podcast too because we had talked about privately, then on the on the podcast like okay for the sake of authenticity I'll share what's going on in my life. I share, I show everyone the fact that Instagram kicked me off and how like I needed it anyways whatever. Christians like yeah don't even try to fix it like just stay off it whatever. So this happens on the podcast. I confess my sin, I get real about it. I'm like look it

talks about in James how you know know, when sin is like conceived, then it gives birth to death. And I talked, I talked about how like I am not going to, I'm not going to just like play around with sin. Like I'm not going to just let that live here. Like why I needed to delete social media is it's cause I'm like, this is in me, but it's not going to stay in me. Like I'm not going to give birth to death.

Like this just needs to go right now. And so I end up like deleting the app and like kicking it off. And I confess on the podcast, share that verse and why you have to be serious about your son right after the podcast. I go pee. And I'm like, you know what?

Watch my app work now that I confessed it. And it did. 48 hours of it not working, 48 hours. I deleted it five times. I restarted my phone and then it did. And I felt like God, I mean, I don't know. God works in mysterious ways, okay? He works in mysterious ways.

I don't know the ins and the outs of how you want to back the theology that my social media broke. And if God did that or not, but I'm just telling you, I knew I needed to do it and I didn't. It broke the next day. 48 hours, it did not work.

I confessed my sin publicly and immediately it worked. That is just so weird to me and crazy. But I say all that to say, like, I think so often, like we do not get real about the sin. We just allow it to stay. We just conform to it. We just allow it to stay. We just conform to it. We just allow ourselves to feel those insecurities. We allow ourselves to feel those lies that we're believing.

But get serious about it. Get it out. Delete the app. Talk to the friend. Confess the thing and move on. And move forward in truth and love. And so I do have social media to delete it right now because I'm like, okay God obviously like I need to

Transform my mind and like renew my mind and that's not just gonna happen by like accident that happens by intentionality And I mean it's so good to just take a step back and it really is cool Like first I love how it's like God has to establish identity and you have to come to him But it is cool to have people who know you so well like Christian who said, no, like don't even try to fix it, like stay off of it. And when friends affirm what God's already saying, that is such a powerful thing to have friends in your life who are not like the ones telling you you're identity, but they're affirming it, you know, they're affirming it in Christ. And honestly, like looking back to that season, I hate to say this, but I don't know if I could have walked through that without a good friend. And so I think like just asking God for that,

for a good friend who really does like remind you who you are. And they may be on their own journey at the same time of discovering Who they are and who God is but just having a friend beside you to like literally say Get up get him off the floor. Yeah, go wash your face Yeah, like get off like do do the thing whatever you got to do do it Break up with the guy if it's bringing life, if it's bringing death, you know, if it's birthing death in your life, then stop, it's not worth it. And I think it's so easy when you're in those places

to reason with it, like, you know, to like, like you said, I kind of want, I want to make that decision. I'm like, I would delete it. I would like to do it myself. You know, and gosh, I remember like sadly years of reasoning with that voice that was like, you know, you can, you'll figure it out, it can get better, you know, but just completely ignoring God's voice in my life.

And I, ugh, it ugh, it never goes well. It does not go well. But hey, you know what? It's so cool. Like truly grace for the journey. Like new mercies are met each day. And everything that we've been talking about to this point, I have to say, has been, it's been my favorite podcast that you've been on because I actually think we have stayed

on track for the most part the whole time. And there's so much truth in this. And I feel like I was, how I wanted to end was talking about you and Clayton's relationship and the YouTube video that y'all just posted. Because if you haven't seen this YouTube video, you should go watch it. Because Lainey and Clayton are obviously like stepping

into another really sweet season of having their second little girl. And but they were like, OK, before we, you know, go into celebrating, we want to share the hard things and you shared that at the beginning. But one thing that was so cool was you all talked about the dream that someone shared with you all that at the time, you didn't really understand. But what happened? So can you just tell the story of the dream?

Because I think it's really cool. I feel like God is literally bringing redemption to this right now because he tells the dream wrong in the video. Oh no! And I was like, I was like, we need a little thing that like pops up and has what the actual dream was because which is so funny. This is a difference between guy and girl because I was like, that's so important. And he's like, but it's like the same thing. Like, but it's not quite that so funny. You know, let's see. Before I found out I was pregnant with Rory. We, I actually got like a really long prophetic word from somebody. And like, it was so many things that I had been praying about, but sandwiched right in the middle was I see you having

being pregnant with a little boy soon and That same week we got an email from somebody at Clayton's work That said hey, I had a really Vivid dream of your family last night. You guys were in your backyard, the grass was really green, and Ronnie was wearing a pretty dress. She was so excited for a baby sister

who was about to arrive, and it was around Easter. And so it was just so cool how to me, like that's one of those things honestly that has helped me through this season to know that like God was in it all and that He was faithful through it all because at first like we were going, oh now I had like a boy and girl prophesied like which one or which one is it going to be? Right. But God gave us both. And when we found out we were pregnant with a little girl this time, I immediately just remembered that dream. And I was like, just wow, like God, that you would be so kind to go ahead and give me that even as a promise to hold on to this pregnancy, you know, that it

was already April, that it was already Easter. And I was, she even said Lainey was like really, you know, pregnant, you know, and just that visual because I had wondered if I would ever have a big pregnant belly again, you know, things that like, when you have your, maybe first baby, and, you know, we didn't, we had a walk through that yet. So I didn't really have Just that struggle mentally With Ronnie of like what could happen and so yeah, the dream was just such a gift from God that I have gone back to over and over again Just as a reminder that he's got her, that he's

faithful, and that she was always like meant to be our girl, you know. And so was Rory, like that doesn't change that. Yeah. So yeah. That's so cool. I love it so much. It's so cool. And that's so funny that he botched the story because we totally have stuff like that and then it's like out there and you're like, oh dang, okay I'll make up for it later. I wonder if you could see in the video. I couldn't, I couldn't and I forgot like

now that you say that I know that part of the story but I was just so sucked in. The video is so good, truly go watch it. But it's so funny because even that's like me telling the story now I'm like I want to tell people like, truly go watch it, but it's so funny because even that's like me telling this story now. I'm like, I wanna tell people like, cause the last podcast, I show people that my social media didn't work and it's so cool, it worked after confession.

So it's cool to do, like live online, it keeps you really honest, you know? Because it's like, if you say one thing and you're like, oh, I gotta fix that, but hey, guess what? Great, you can get on a camera and say it again. And so- Say it again.

I love that. I'm gonna have to fix that at some point. Hey, you did. It's amazing. Well, look, I am so excited for the season of Life Yard about Step Into. I am a huge fan of Two Girls. It is so much fun.

It is amazing. And Little Baby Sis is gonna be Haven's best friend. So now they both have their little besties and it's gonna be so much fun. I am celebrating all the things and man, I'm so thankful for how y'all carry Rory in your heart and y'all just like shout his little life out because I know that that he has brought so much hope

to so many people just hearing his story and the peace that God has given y'all through that and the hope he's given y'all. And I am truly so excited for everyone to go pick up this book. If you have not already stopped this podcast to go buy this book, now is your opportunity to go look up daughter, buy it, read it, meditate on it. And again, it's just like having a good friend sit across from

you and speak truth over your life. So, Lane, thanks for coming back on the podcast and being such a great friend to so many people. Thank you for having me. Thanks for being truly, I'm just the best friend. You're amazing. Aw, this is so fun. Oh yeah