WHOA That's Good Podcast - Our Best Advice on Overcoming Mental Health Challenges | Sadie & Christian

Episode Date: March 13, 2024

Sadie & Christian answer thought-provoking questions from their DMs, including how to overcome difficult mental hurdles, breaking up in a way that reflects Jesus, and being a part of the college experience while maintaining Godly values. Sadie reflects on her own struggles with insecure thoughts, while Christian uses his own college experience as a reference for lifestyle transformation during the college years. https://helixsleep.com/sadie — Get 20% off all mattress orders AND 2 free pillows! Get 25% OFF your Abide premium subscription! But ONLY if you text Sadie to 22433. https://liberty.edu/Sadie — Get your application fee WAIVED when you start your future with Liberty University today! - Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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What's up? Well, that's good fam. Happy Wednesday, everybody. It's me and my hubby in the house. In the podcast studio. In the podcast studio. And we're so excited because this is honestly one of our favorite podcast episodes we get to do, which is answering your DMs that you send in. And y'all hit us with some tough questions this time. Very deep questions. Honestly, they were really deep and they're so good. And I'm so thankful that y'all trust us with these deep questions you're wrestling with. I'm just gonna kind of throw out a few of the ones

we're gonna talk about today. These are some of the questions y'all sent in. No, no, no, let's not tease them. Let's just get into it. What, no, let's not tease them. Let's just get into it. What? Yeah, let's not tease them. Well, some people might be like looking for something. That's true, that's right.

I tease them. They're like, yes, okay, they're talking about this subject. Give them a little tease. So here's a little bit of what y'all sent in. First question we're gonna talk about is, why does my mental struggle feel bigger than God? How do I truly rest in God and live in a continual peaceful life? That's a big question.

Then we're going to talk about how do you discern something as a sign from God or know if you are just over-spiritualizing something. Then Christians get to tackle how to be in the world but not of it, especially in college, and also where we talk about how to share the gospel as an introvert, because Christian can relate to that. And then we have a few other ones that we might touch on. People ask about how to go about a godly breakup, how to deal with negative roommates, and how not to lose yourself in the process, and how to go about reading the Bible to your children

and not overwhelm them by big concepts like heaven and hell and sin and all the different things. So we're going to dive in. You guys, thank you for sending these. Keep sending them to the Will That's Good podcast Instagram page. That's where we're checking this out and we'd love to answer them.

So let's dive in. We already prayed beforehand. We did. And I hope that even just our conversation with you will just kickstart you doing your own study in the Bible for some of these things. So the first one, why does my mental struggle feel bigger than God? First of all, just like your honesty and how you even ask that question really stuck out to me because that is so true. Like sometimes just like the mental battle can feel bigger than what, you know, God can just heal

in a moment even though you know that's not true because you know God is bigger than what God can just heal in a moment, even though you know that's not true, because you know God is bigger than all things. And God could, like you read about scripture where the woman who was bleeding for 12 years just touched the robe of Jesus and was healed instantly. So there's nothing too big for God to heal. But I understand that, that it feels so big sometimes that you're like, God, can you really heal this? And then you go on to ask the second question, how do I truly rest in God

and live in a continual, peaceful life? So I just wanna talk about that a little bit. And before we dive into really like what the word says in scripture, just a little insight, that is something I really struggle with. I struggle a lot with like my mind and just like controlling the thoughts in my mind and taking captive those thoughts.

And literally last week, we were heading were heading to if gathering and I was speaking there, so excited to speak there, but it had been just like a mentally draining week. We had a million different things going on. And whenever I'm really busy, that's when I struggle the most mentally. I think because I'm not as on guard with my thoughts and I'm not, uh, you know, not just guarding my mind as carefully as I should because I'm so busy. Well, in the midst of super busy times, I had some hate come to me on social media and then I was super mad about that. Then I'm coming straight from mentally, having all these thoughts about social media and what people think of me to try and to prepare a message to preach in front of 10,000 women the next day and

75,000 people watching online. And it was like, felt like an impossible task. And it was like, every time I would think, okay, I'm going to say this, I'm going to say that. Normally, I don't feel like, I feel like I just feel like a piece and I won't let the spirit leave, but I was overthinking every single thing Well, if I say that what are people gonna think or if I say this and Did I say it right or is it theologically sound like just like going through the million things because I had just come from

Seeing people on Instagram say some pretty harsh words to me and because I wasn't in a good space mentally And I wasn't guarding my heart and my thoughts, I was just letting all this kind of become true. And so I remember Hrishan said to me, he was like, maybe you're really struggling with your mind. And I just started crying. I was like, I know I am. I know I'm struggling online.

Well, because when you get in that place, you overthink everything. Like if someone looks at you this way or if someone says something, then you just overanalyze it. Everything. Yeah, that can be your biggest struggle is when you are going through things, spiritual like that, it can even affect practical things like that. Simple things. Yes, a simple look or a sad eye or a comment or whatever that's not intended to be that

way. Yeah, so I was just in that headspace because I come from, like I said, really busy and then getting kind of blasted on social media. And then I was overthinking everything. Like I was, which when you get blasted on social media, I think it makes you, it makes me more mad. I just get super frustrated. So if you ever bash this on social media, I'm the one that gets more frustrated.

And you, you just kind of get more sad. Yeah. And so I was sad. I was mentally struggling. And then that became into like everything where a look would throw me off or what somebody said or what I was thinking about saying. He was like, you're just really struggling with your mind. And I was like, I know.

And then I, I don't even know if you really knew what was going on over there. How I was in the passenger seat because we were driving to Dallas for me to speak. And I just kind of like stopped everything I was doing. I got super frustrated and I finally just started like crying. And I just sat with the Laura, turned on like worship and I was just like, okay, God, you have to help me with how I'm gonna respond to this situation on social media because my mind can't get past it right now. And so I just sat with the Lord and honestly I felt like God gave me finally a response like how I'm to

handle it, how I'm to proceed. I ended up posting the story that was just honestly came from that prayer time and then I was able to post something the next day that was just a solid response so that I could just move forward. And when I sat with the Lord, man, I just felt like God gave me so much empathy and related to me and spoke so much truth over my life. And then I was able to just carry on and truly like have a sound mind. It was crazy. Like you saw me and even the host that was hosting as if gathering the first night, she said, like, she was so, so sweet. And she was like, you, you were great.

Like you were very nice. I could tell like there's something you were going through. And she said, just as your host to see the next morning, come here. You look so renewed. You look so fresh. And to go on stage and preach some message that you did, she said, honestly, for me, it was amazing to see. And I thought that was just really cool from like feedback from someone I don't really know very well who saw me the night before and saw me the next day and got to experience like just a renewal. Like she saw me be renewed by the spirit and that came directly from prayer. So I say that to say, like, I understand what it feels like to struggle with your mind and struggle with mental thoughts,

but we're gonna go to the word because it's so cool how actually the word is saying, essentially the process that I went through, like I had to go to Jesus to receive that peace, to get renewed, to be able to go about my next day as a completely new person and walk into that moment and do the job that, you know, God called me to do without being in my head and overthinking it and all the things. So this is in Philippians chapter 4 verse 6 is where we're going to start and it says don't worry

about anything which already if you're like me you're like well that seems like an impossible task but let's keep going and everything through prayer and petition with Thanksgiving, present your request to God. And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your heart and minds in Christ Jesus. So I love this verse so much, but I think a lot of times what we do is we take the last half of that verse, the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding. When we go like, oh, I wanna have the peace of God which surpasses all understanding. It's literally the question this person asked me,

like how do I rest in God and live in a continual peace? And you're probably making a nod towards that verse because you hear people say, man, I have peace which surpasses all understanding. And I think so many times we want that peace that surpasses all understanding, but we're not willing to go to the place where peace is to receive it. And see that peace that surpasses all understanding, but we're not willing to go to the place where peace is to receive it. And see that peace that surpasses all understanding, it literally

tells us where we find that. It says right before, in everything, through prayer and through petition with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And then the peace of God with surpasses all understanding, it will then guard your heart and your mind. And that's essentially exactly the process I went through. I did not have peace. My mind was spiraling. I was thinking of all these negative things and these thoughts of what people said. That was what was in my mind. And then I went to God and I prayed and I talked to the Lord about it and thought through Scripture and just different things that Jesus went through. And I came out on the other side with a peace that surpassed the understanding of my situation. Because now I had the truth of what God says about me. I felt the love of God, the grace of God wash over me. And I was able to continue

on with a clear heart and a clear mind. There's also some things I need to do in the process too. Like I needed to forgive the people that said hateful things to me on Instagram because I don't think that I could go on and have a clean heart and a pure heart if I was carrying bitterness and unforgiveness. And so there's just things I need to sit with with the Lord. I need to confess some things. I need to heal from some things. I need some grace to be washed over me, forgiveness.

And then I was able to continue on. I think about that verse in Romans too, like, do not conform to the pattern of this world. Be transformed by the renewal of your mind. And I was thinking about how, you know, it's so easy to conform to the pattern of the world. And one of the patterns of the world is social media. And as I was like, on social media, reading all these hateful comments and reading all this like, input on my life, I was getting so stressed out and so insecure. And then when I stopped conforming to the power of the world and let Jesus transform my mind, I was able to then carry on and do the

will that God had for me, which is actually what that verse says. So this is just a great verse, and it's kind of step by step, walks you through how to actually get that peace of God. So that peace of God, as far as I understand it, isn't just this like mysterious thing that falls on you sometimes. No, it comes to you when you meet with peace, when you meet with Jesus. ["Sleeping With Peace"]

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oftentimes where you do have a mental struggle that does feel bigger than God in a way, you know, like where, but I think even kind of giving a nod to it, you've mentioned kind of you'll go and like sit with it for a while. And I think that sometimes, you know, there's a, the, the, the main differences is the, it's the difference in the sit, right? It's sit and pray through it and ask God to work through it, or there's a sit and you're just going to kind of sulking it and kind of wallowing it and like not making any progress.

So, you know, I just wanna say, whoever asked this question, like it is gonna be often that, or maybe not often, but there are gonna be times where you do feel like there's something bigger. I think, God, in the situation that you're going through, and it's the main difference to moving towards that continual peaceful life, it's gonna be, what does your sit look like?

Are you gonna sit, and you're gonna just let that define you and kind of just sulk in it, what does your sit look like? Are you gonna be, are you gonna sit, are you gonna just let that define you and kind of just soak in it and, you know, let that be the end of it? Are you gonna push through it? Are you gonna pray? Yeah. And are you gonna bring all these requests and petitions to God?

Yeah. So. That's so good. Cause there's kind of a specific time in that car ride where I had been like thinking on those things so much and I was trying to just push through it. I'm sitting, I'm trying to study for this message. I'm sitting, I'm trying to study for this message. I'm sitting, I'm trying to just carry on with my day and then I was getting irritable.

I was getting frustrated, I was getting insecure and then Christian's like, I think you're struggling mentally. And then finally when I just broke and started crying, I was like, okay, I just need to give this to the Lord. I was just sitting, letting the tears flow, letting the hurt out, and just like letting the Lord minister into my heart. That's when everything started shifting.

So I think, you know, I was just trying to like press through it, but you know, those mental things, you don't just have to like, you know, glance over or press through it, like, you know, like press into the Lord through it. And I think for, like that's just an example of just a day to day mental struggle. But then there are things where it's like depression or anxiety, and there's crippling anxiety and crippling depression. And then there's postpartum anxiety

and depression. That's a whole different thing. Like, if you know, you're going through a mental struggle, that feels so big. And you've been sitting in it for a long time, and you've been trying to renew your mind, you've been praying to the Lord, then I think it really is important to go seek counsel, like godly counsel, a therapist, a counselor, someone to actually help you walk through it. And I've done that so many times. I've gone to counseling,

I have had people help me through those different, bigger seasons of life. So definitely don't just like glance over, try to press through it, try to just like get your mind right, get the help you need to get your mind right. Definitely so important. I'm going to go on to say a few more verses because verse eight is so good and verse nine. It says, finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable. If there is any moral excellence and there is anything praiseworthy, dwell on these things, do what you have learned and received and heard from me and seen in me and the God of peace will be with you. And

that just kind of takes you to step further. It's like, okay, you know, come to God, pray to God, give him all your requests, and then the peace of God, what's your prize of the honor, same will be with you. Then he's like, hey, and here's some things that you can think on, because you gotta exchange those toxic thoughts with some good thoughts. So think on what's true, think on what's honorable, and pure, and just, and lovely, and commendable,

and praiseworthy, and then dwell on that. And then as you dwell on that, the peace of God is gonna be with you. And there have been times where Christian, I remember you were, we were like together, I think we were married about this time, whenever I had the screensaver of like that random collage. And I told you, I made that because I went through this verse

and I was like, hey, what is true? And like I put a verse in that collage. I was like, what is pura? I thought about something that I think is like, represents purity. And I put that picture in this collage. I was like, what is purity? I thought about something that I think is like represents purity. And I put that picture in this collage and then I thought about what's lovely, what's excellent, what's praiseworthy. I just made a picture collage of like what was just kind of a physical representation of what these words look like. And that was the screensaver on my phone for a little while so that whenever I needed to like train my brain to think on positive things, I actually had a picture in my mind to think of.

And these pictures kind of led me to like, think on the memories that I had with it or the scripture that was there in it. And so, you know, sometimes you actually just have to get aggressive with those thoughts and be like, no, I am going to think on these things. And if that means literally like, putting a picture in my mind for me to picture,

I'm gonna do it. And so definitely Christian, like Christian said, what does your sit look like? If that means literally like putting a picture in my mind for me to picture, I'm going to do it. And so definitely Christian, like Christian said, what does your sit look like? Is it sitting and like actively working through those thoughts or sitting and just soaking in it and just soaking in it? Because it's really important to define the difference of the two. That is our perfect segue to our next question. How do you discern if something is a sign from God or know if you are just over-spiritualizing something?

Yes, so this is something that- Which doesn't really tell us the diversity you kind of just read too. Yeah, so we put this verse here and I was like, wow, this actually kind of goes to both of these questions. So I think how do you know if it's a sign from God or know if you're just over-spiritualizing it? I think, you know, if it's a sign from God,

it's going to align with God's word. And I think that's really important to note because I remember I got this sign from God years ago. I thought it was a sign from God because it was a very overly spiritualized thing that happened and I was like, oh my gosh, this must be a sign. But it was basically stepping into a relationship that there was like the fruit of Jesus was not on. Like it was not pure, it was not lovely, it was not all the things. But I was like, whoa, I have this son, like it must be God, right?

And I think that was not God. I think that was over-spiritualizing something. I think it was a little bit of manipulation. And I think it was just me wanting of a manipulation and I think it was just me wanting to do something in the flesh and not in the spirit. And so I love Jackie Hill Period posted this thing on Instagram about how peace is not necessarily like the best way to discern if you should do something or not because so many people say like, oh well I had peace about it or oh I had this sign and then I had peace and

that's a lot of times the way people will tell you to discern if you're going to do something or not. Like, do you have peace? But she talks about how like peace is also like an emotion, you know? So sometimes you might feel like you have peace to do something, but you could be doing something like very ungodly. And so you need to make sure that your peace is not just like a feeling that your flesh is producing because it's something that you want and it's actually something

that's like aligned with God's word and God's spirit because sometimes God's gonna call you to do something that's very much the will of God for your life that you won't have like the feeling of peace because it's scary you know I think that's when God comes in is like do not fear so you know I think that sometimes we over emphasizeemphasize the feeling of peace instead of like actually just being guided by the spirit and being guided by the word. And so I think if you're looking at something, you think it's a sign from God, you need to ask God, or first you can just analyze, okay, does this actually align with God's word?

Like, is this a good thing? Does it, am my honoring God, honoring people, in my loving God and loving my neighbor, in line with Scripture as I proceed to do whatever this is? Is this sign leading to the things that God says? Also the other thing I would say is like, have you asked God if it's a sign? Because in Genesis 24, it's such a cool story and it's the story of whenever Abraham is sending out one of his servants to find a wife for Isaac. And basically the servant goes out and he's like, okay, Lord, you're gonna have to help me find

this wife for Isaac. Like how am I gonna know? And so the servant says something like very specific to God about finding his wife. He basically is like, okay, I'm gonna sit here with my camels and then the person who comes to the will, whenever she asks me to water the camels and like, would that be the person that's gonna be Isaac's wife? So he asked for a sign, but he actually asked for a very specific sign.

Like, God, if you show me this, then I'm gonna know that it's you. And then sure enough, like a couple minutes later, I don't know how long it actually was. Rebecca comes and she does exactly what he just asked God to show him. Like, she does ask for the water for the camels or whatever it was. And then he was like, Oh, wow, like, this is her. This is what the Lord had set up. And so I think like, if you are going to ask for signs, that's just like a biblical example. Like they actually ask God for that and then God showed them that. And I think like there's been situations in our life

where we've asked God, we always say like, God give us green lights or red lights. And if you give us green lights and the doors are opening and we, you know, they feel like this is kind of aligning with what you asked and then we'll walk through. But if it's not, give us red red lights and if it's like a closed door We're just gonna trust that that's your will and we're just gonna stop there And so sometimes you know you can ask God for things like that and he'll lead you in those directions and whatnot

But I think like ultimately the biggest thing is that if it's a sign from God It's got to align with the word of God And if it doesn't align with the word of God then I would not take that as a sign from God, it's got to align with the word of God. And if it doesn't align with the word of God, then I would not take that as a sign of God. And if you do have a sign that looks like God, but you're not sure, then ask God, God, is this a sign from you? This feels like you. And then you can assess if you have peace about it, and you can assess the lines with his will, and you can go forward from there. When it comes to having apps on our phone, there are certainly ones that make us feel better than others.

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I think sometimes we read so much into it and we make something that could just be a potential circumstance, we make it super spiritual. And it's like, no, you actually just bumped into them at the coffee shop. You know, it's not like this is a sign, you know, and even on like the, you know, not the biblical side of even like just the world, you know, we have, there's all these people that's like, you know, the universe is telling me, you know, and I think that's the far extreme

of like the opposite of what we believe, you know, like obviously God, you know, can speak to you and give you dreams and sides and these things. And then, you know, but sometimes I do think that there's just like coincidental things that's like, don't, you don't have to read too much into it. Like for instance, we had a friend who had gotten out of this relationship and it wasn't necessarily a great relationship. And then she saw this person at the airport and she was like, is it a sign, you know, like, are we supposed to get back together? And just went through this whole like, what if this is the Lord? Is this whatever?

And Christians like, I think you just happened to see him at the airport because that relationship was not good. Like, you know that that doesn't really align with what God has for you. It's not God's best for you. And so like, you actually might have just seen them at the airport and it's not God saying like, oh, you need to get back in this relationship and all these things. So just like, not, I feel like a lot of times and we just overthink what God's thinking, you know, and I feel like God says, you know, what is it, Proverbs 3, trust and love with all your heart,

lean on your own understanding and all your ways acknowledge him and he will make your path straight. So if you are acknowledging him, I believe that he will make your path straight and I believe that his word and his spirit, they will be like a light into your path, they'll be like a lamp into your feet and if you just like continue the conversation, you keep acknowledging him, you're trying to follow his will and you keep going for like you're not gonna mess it up. I love Shelley Giglio posted the other day like if you think you're gonna mess up God's will for your life, beautiful friend, you are not that powerful. Like if you are following in

his steps and following his will and being as obedient as you can to his way and his word, like you're not gonna mess it up. And if you choose a path that's like not right and you're like, oh man, this actually was not the best, just get on the next path. Like ask God to redirect your steps and he will. So don't freak out, you're not gonna mess it up. Keep going forward. Don't look too far into signs and whatnot. Follow his word, follow his will,

and you're gonna be great friends. So just take the stress and the pressure off. So how do you discern if something is designed from God? You ask God. You can literally simplify it to that. Ask God. That's great. You just ask God.

And if you feel he doesn't answer you, then you keep asking. He says, not going to be open to ask or seeking you will find. So you just got to keep asking and keep seeking. All right. Next question. How to be in the world but not of the world, especially in college? I'll kind of answer this in two questions. They're in two counterparts. I like the comma, especially in college part.

But I think, first off, this is one of my favorite scriptures because I think it's so... I'm a visual learner and I think this verse for me just kind of helps visualize what our life looks like here in this world. And I think it's multifaceted, right? It's how to be in the world, but not of the world. So it basically what it's saying is like, we live on earth, we live, currently right now we live in West Burnham.

So we live in this world, but we're not of the world. So what does that mean? So being in the world, but not of the world, it means that you're not going with, you know, with what the rest of the world, it means that you're not going with, with what the rest of the world looks like. You're going against the grain, you're going against society.

So especially in college, you're in college, but you're not of college. So what does that mean? Generically, college is hardying, it's worldliness, it's sex, it's drinking, it's all these things that necessarily aren't good. So you can be in the sorority house, but you're not of the sorority house, right? You live there, but you don't

partake in all the things that typically they do at a sorority house, or you can live in the fraternity house, but you're not of it. You're the one that's going against the norm, and you're not dwelling in what's typically in this, especially in college. It's like how to be in college, but not of college, right? Most college students that you talk to are, they're just not on the right path. They're living worldly.

They're obsessed with all these things that are not necessarily good for you. So I think you have to just ask yourself, like, am I in the world and am I also of it? And I think to be in the world, like I said, you're living here, but you're not of it, right? You have a difference in the fruits of your life.

There's the fruit of the spirit, and then there's the acts of the sinful nature. And I think those are just a good test for wherever you're at. It's how to be in the job and not of the job, how to be all the different things. Can put that anywhere. So for example, like Christian said,

like, okay, I can be in college, but not of all the things. So that's like you mentioned drinking and partying and sex and all the things. So if you're like, oh, well, I'm a Christian and it's in my bio and people know I'm a Christian, but yet I'm at the bars every weekend and partying and getting just as drunk as everyone else

and sleeping with different people, then you are in the world and you're not set apart. You know, you are not set apart just because your bio says this or you say that you're a Christian. Like to be in it and not of it is like, no, I'm in college. This is my mission for right now because this is where I'm at. I am, if I go to the bar, it's on mission to love people.

I'm fully loving God, I'm fully loving people, I'm fully in obedience to Him and walking in His will no matter where I am. And I'm not gonna compromise what is true about what soon is just because I'm trying to be relatable, I'm trying to be cool or whatever. So there's such a difference in like being in the world and not of it, especially in college. And so I just want to point that out of like what that really looks like. No, because I've been both in college. I have been in the world in college and I have been of the world. It's like I am at Auburn,

but I'm also partaking in all the things that all these other non-believers are doing. But there was a shift in my life, my freshman year tour. Okay, I'm gonna be in college, I'm in Auburn, I'm studying business management, but I'm not of it. This is not to find me, I'm not being clumped with all these other group of people that are partaking in these worldly things.

So. I think what's still so cool about that is like, you should still be in it because if you're in it, and like you get to be an example in it, you know what I think like Christian people got to see what it looks like to go from an old self to a new self. If you knew Christian the first semester of college, to the last semester of college,

you saw a complete different person just like my host, Sada Ifgather. Man, it was so cool to see where you were at yesterday and where you're at today because that just shows the power of God. It's like that verse therefore like we boast in our weakness for it is like through our weakness that we get to see his streak come alive. And so like it's okay if you have a shift like right now you're like, man I've been totally in college and of college but like I'm gonna make a shift and right now, you're like, man, I've been totally in college and of college, but like I'm gonna make a shift. And then people are gonna be like,

whoa, what happened to you? But man, like you get to tell them your testimony that God changed you, that Holy Spirit convicted you. And that's actually so cool. And I love that like Christian had that shift in college and what happened in his life. But here's the cool thing too, that doesn't mean you still can't have fun.

Like you had so much fun in college, you met your best friends in college, you like thrived in college after coming to Christ. And so it didn't have fun. Like you had so much fun in college, you met your best friends in college, you like thrived in college after coming to Christ. And so it didn't hold you back. It actually made you fully come alive. So you're not gonna like miss out. You're gonna miss out on those worldly things, but you're gonna come fully alive in Christ.

And that's what's so cool. So being like not of something, I think sometimes we think like, oh, we're gonna be left out, we're gonna be alone, or we're gonna be weird person. Like no, like being not of it means that like you are going to fully live in the freedom that Christ has for you. And that is the best way to live your life. And so just wanted to point that out because it's not like a, like it's a sacrifice, but it's like the best

sacrifice because freedom is on the other side of it. Yeah, no, I love that. Well, I love that you mentioned that part because I think with that verse, it can also give the direction of how to be in it but not of it. And it's like you kinda can weed it out to where you kinda become kind of snobby to it. Like cynical, just kind of just negative about it. So it's like you still can be in it, right?

You still can do these things, but still can be in it, right? You still can, you know, do these things, but but it's you're not of it, right? You're not like you can still hang out with these friends, but you're not you're not of it, right? You're still set apart in it, you know So I think Don't take me to the extreme towards you. It's you know, it makes you be stuck up a word I'm not of it, but just don't. Be loving. Be loving.

Be normal. Be a friend. Don't take it that way. Yo, I've always loved the idea of your college years. It just sounds so much fun to just be in the same place with all these people your age and hanging out and doing the things, go to school for what you care about. So friends if that's you if you're thinking about heading off to college and you need to check out Liberty

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You have your people who are super extroverted, like you talk about, and it's like, first is JP, Jonathan McClure, that loved him to death. And the way he shares the gospel is different than the way I would share it. He just blatantly asks someone, if you were to die late, one out of 10, you go to heaven. I just would never ask that

just because that's just not my personality. I don't, you know, I don't really click with people that way, but I love how he does it. So for me, it's like, I think sometimes you have to just let your life speak for yourself. The amount of conversation I've gotten them with people because I've asked them how their day is going, or I told them thank you, or I tip them,

or all these different things, and I think that can lead to a conversation, and you might be thinking, well, I would never ask someone how they're doing because I am so introverted. So, you know, don't break it down towards that, like, I'm in a bedroom, I have no friends, I don't wanna-

Well, I think, like like if you're that introverted You had to ask yourself like okay, God What are you calling me to that's outside of my comfort zone because? Everybody is gonna be called to something outside of their comfort zone like most of us whatever you're called to is going to be outside Your comfort zone so I think one thing is like you can't use your personality type as an excuse to not do the thing that God has placed on your life. Because if God placed it on your life, he already knew your personality type. So it's like, Jesus said to go and make disciples of every nation, every tribe, every tribe. That says in the name of the Father, Son, Holy Spirit. And he didn't say that was limited to a certain group of people.

He said, everybody go do that. He told everybody, go love your neighbor as yourself. That was like an everybody call. So you can't say like, oh, I'm introvert, so I'm not gonna do that. In the same way, I can't like go to the integrand and be like, oh, I'm a six. And so I'm fearful to do things. So I can't, you know, do that. It's like, no, no matter what your personality type is,

that is what you're called to do. And so you do have to trust in the Lord and allow him to like, you know, be your strength and the Holy Spirit to guide you to do the things that you're afraid of. So Christian doesn't want to go share on stages like I do or he doesn't want to go do what J.P. does and ask people as directly as maybe J.P. would do it, but I have seen you, I wouldn't even say as much as asking people how they're doing, like, yes, you do that and yes, that

makes an impact. But to really share the gospel, I've seen you at the gym, like talking to people, asking them to come like, what is it called? Like, spot you. Oh yeah, like people like, hey, can you come spot me? And then those are the conversations you get in with people. And then I've literally seen you get to the point where they got baptized.

And that all started from a conversation of asking them to spot you. You went to coffee with them. You shared your faith, they saw a story in your life, and then, you know, they were in ended up being baptized. So Christian was like fulfilling the call on his life to go and make disciples and baptize them. He wasn't the one to preach on the sage every Sunday. He wasn't even the one to baptize them, but he was the one that planted the seed that got them to that space. And so that's a great example of an introvert loving someone right where they're at. No, that's great.

I'm looking... So basically, this was back in 2020, me and Sadie's dad went through these. We'd basically... It's like seven types of evangelism. So there's... I'm just gonna go through these real quick, too. Is this in Dad's new book, Gospeller? It might be.

So we might be busting Dad's new book. You think so? But we'll tell you. But you gotta this in Dad's new book, Gospeller? It might be. So we might be busting Dad's new book. You think so? But we'll tell you, but you gotta go get Dad's new book when it comes out. Well, so basically, so I'll just say like two. So there's the Engager, right? Which is the person who, it's like what JP says, it's acts too, it's Peter, you know,

gets up and starts preaching. But if you look at events, so basically when Levi, when Matthew started following Jesus, it said that he held a party, invited all of his task-collector friends and centers, and he invited Jesus. So Matthew was not the one necessarily sharing the gospel, but he was able to get a group together. He was able to host a party, and he invited worldly people, and he invited Jesus, and basically to say Jesus preached to them. So for you, it might not be, you know, you know much scripture or you're not confident in that or whatever.

So, but you have friends that are. So for me, it's like, I could have a party or I could host a gathering and I can invite JP and I can say JP, go do your thing. But that's me using a gift that God's given me of being able to get hosting and inviting and, you know, getting my house in order to where it's a nice setting to where I can host people. So there's so many different facets of that. And I think like because of the day that we live in and the culture that we live in, it defines ministry as these like jobs that you have, like vocational ministry. If you go read the Bible, like go read through Acts and look at the ways these people use their ministry, like the ways that they got

people to know about Jesus. There's all types of different people. And Dad does talk about that in his book and breaks down all the seven. And if we went into it, this is a whole nother podcast. We'll have to have him on to really break down with Christian, but it really is so encouraging. So no matter what personality you have, God designed you, knit you together in your mother's room to have that personality and to fully be able to bring kingdom to earth. So just keep that in mind. Okay, moving on because we have so many things to talk about, but we're probably not going to get to all of it today.

Someone asked about godly breakups, how to go about breakups in a godly way. I thought this was a really like respectable question because this is really a hard thing to navigate. I think when you're going through a breakup, these are things I'll learn from me not doing well. So I'll say that. One thing that I think never goes ever well is blaming it on God, like saying something along the lines of like, well, God just has like maybe even even saying like God told me or God put this on my heart or whatever. I think just like if God told you to break out that person, let that be between you and God and then you go about it in a respectful honorable way because sometimes it's like hard when they don't feel that from God, like they

didn't feel like God said to break out with you. They're thinking that this is a great relationship. And then it gets confusing as to like what God's plan is or what God's purpose is. And well, then you doubt, you never want to make anyone confused on their spiritual journey. You never want to make anyone confused about what God says. And if God gave that word to you, then let you take that and you're responsible for that. And you're responsible for your conviction and feeling the need to break up, but then you take that responsibility and you break up with them,

but don't put it necessarily on God. I just don't think it works. I just don't think it goes very well. I think it adds more confusion than clarity, and I don't think that confusion is good to get to anyone. I was just about to say clarity, because I don't have any experience in Godly Breakups, which I'm glad that you're able to speak to that.

But yeah, it's like in hindsight, if I were to have, it's providing just clarity. And I think, you know, because when you were saying blaming it or yet using God as like a cop out or as an excuse, you know, the infamous it's not you, it's me. I think that's- And it might very well be God that said it is what I'm saying. You probably do feel the lack of peace from God or God said it. That's fine. Like that's good.

But then don't like tell them that because then it makes them confused. Yeah. I think you don't tell them that but I do think you provide clarity in a way that doesn't leave them confused because I can think about me and you because you're going to break out with me which I did not know. I would have been very upset. But if you would have used it in a spiritual way, then it would have made me not only doubt what we had been through together, but it would have made me doubt my relationship with God.

Yeah, because it makes me feel like, are you not good enough or are you whatever? But that makes me feel like, am I not hearing from the world correctly? Because I feel like we were in a good spot. And so it's, So be careful with that. So be careful. I wouldn't use that link. Let's be honest, some days it just feels like there is not enough time of the day to get

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getting broken up with is gonna be more hurt than the person doing. The dumper is always less upset than the dumper. Yes, and so like be empathetic, be kind, be compassionate. Like I'm sorry, I know this is really upsetting and I know this is probably gonna be confusing, but I'm in this place right now where when I was going to break out with Christian, this is how it was going before Christian stopped me. No, but this is good, cause I was like, hey, listen,

like I have loved the days that we've been on. You are awesome. This has been amazing. I just feel like I'm at this place where I am not gonna be able to give you like- Is this you providing a godly break for example? Yeah, this is, this is. This is not my best break out,

which actually didn't end up in a break out. It actually ended up in a really good conversation. Three, two, one, action. We're married and have two kids, but this is where I was going really good conversation. Three, two, one, action. We're married and have two kids. But this is where I was going with the conversation. And I actually think, like I said, this is from failure that I'm telling you this. I did not do well with breakups.

This one I think I must do a pretty good one. And so he told me to stop talking. I didn't know, but this is what I was saying. Okay, so I felt like at the time, I could not be a good girlfriend or Christian because I was about to go on tour and I was about to be so busy and he was in college and I was like, hey, I don't want you to have to get

into this relationship where you feel like you're torn between college and dating me. And I don't want to feel like I can't show up to Auburn and like give you a normal relationship because I'm literally on tour and all this stuff. So I was going into it being like, hey, you're awesome. This has nothing to do with how awesome you are. We've had awesome dates.

I love them. And I know this is going to be confusing because how much fun we've had and how awesome I think you are. But I honestly just feel like I am going into a season of my life where I'm gonna be so busy that I'm gonna be on tour. I'm not gonna be able to come to Auburn, which I'm gonna hate because I'm gonna feel bad and guilty for not giving you a good normal relationship and then I don't want you to be torn between college and a relationship with me. And so I was going

to like exit out for those reasons. Well, Christian, you know, you also can handle it in a godly way. That was what I, that was, that was weird. It was the competition over the phone. Yeah, Christian told me to stop talking. So I over the phone basically put my finger between my lips. Christian said, whoa, stop talking. He said, listen, if it's a win for God, and if it's a win for you, it'll be a win for me. And I was like, wow, okay, hold up. I actually don't think I want to break it with you. I think I want to marry you. I didn't actually say that, but I was kind of thinking it. But I do think because it was like done in a godly way, it actually led us to having a really good conversation about the insecurities that I was having and the problems

I was pursuing as having in a relationship. Then he got to respond in the way that was also godly and honoring to me and we decided together to go forward with the relationship. And I will say too, even with godly breakups, most people we know, I feel like that are married, have broken up at one point. Yeah. Right? So I think there is clarity even in a timing situation, right?

But then again, you don't want to provide false hope, but I do think that looking back at our situation, if it was necessarily tour, then we could have broken up for six months or kind of reconvened after that. It would have been totally different if I didn't handle it in a golly way and I just ghosted you and never taught to you and you were just left with confusion

or I just said, hey, God told me that we're supposed to break up. And then we didn't, you can't come, like that's the problem when you say like God told me because then they can't argue with God in that moment. So there's nothing for them to say but because I was like hey this is actually just like things I'm thinking through and then we had a great conversation. So anyways I hope that helps if you are going into a breakup and you're trying to think

about what you're gonna say. Just rewind about three minutes and just write this down. Go with what I did, no I'm just kidding. Just like think about why you're breaking up and be clear. Clear is kind, kind is clear. Do the whole thing. Clear and concise. You also don't want to like- Drag it out.

Drag it out. Don't want to say too much stuff to work. Get in and get out. Yep. Yes. But provide clarity. It's hard. I'm like nervous laughing with you

because if you're listening to this podcast and you're already thinking about breaking it with someone, you're like, oh crap, this is my sign. This is my sign. Oh crap. Oh crap, this is my sign. Maybe I shouldn't like oh crap this is like this is my sign this is my sign oh crap this is my sign maybe I shouldn't say oh crap on a podcast and I just did it's just poop okay thank you totally got me are you guys sorry okay on that note because I don't think I'm going to be able to stop laughing, we are

going to cut here because we have more questions, but honestly, y'all know we're going to do this once a month. We always love to answer y'all's DMs. Keep sending in good questions. Keep us diving into the word and thinking about these things. Honestly, it helps us so much as you'll ask these questions. And again, we are not, and I'll be all for this. Like if you're seeking more advice on this,

like go to a pastor, go to a mentor, go to a friend. But most importantly, go to the Lord, make sure all this sits right with you. I love how one of my mentors says it. She'll send me a little voice audio of encouragement or a word and then she'll say, hey, but this is not aligned with the Holy Spirit and you do not feel like this is something for your life,

then throw it away. But if it does, keep it. So that's kind of like our heart in this. We hope this encourages you. We hope it sends you to the word, but if it is in any way confusing, ditch it. Ditch it. And we love you friends.

We'll see you back here next Wednesday. Thank you for watching!