2 Bears, 1 Cave with Tom Segura & Bert Kreischer - Ep. 137 | 2 Bears 1 Cave w/ Tom Segura & Yannis Pappas
Episode Date: June 13, 2022We got guest bear Yannis Pappas joining Tom Segura this week! Go check out his standup comedy special "Mom Love" on YouTube! The bears discuss celebrity culture, standup comedy youtube specials, and f...at football coaches like Stan Van Gundy and Mark Mangino. They find an article wondering why Bert Kreischer takes his shirt off all the time, describe what it feels like for your jokes to not work on stage, and appreciate everything Jewish people have done for society. They discuss cool things about China, how people stopped caring about the Olympics, how to raise good kids and today's swimsuit models.  https://tomsegura.com/tour https://www.bertbertbert.com/bertyboytour https://store.ymhstudios.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Transcript
Discussion (0)
Like, no, maybe I'm being a dick.
Maybe I shouldn't have said that person's fat to their face.
You don't have to do that.
I'm just keeping it real here.
Yeah, yeah.
I tell it like it is.
100%
Well, your dream finally came true.
Bert has passed away.
No, I think he's touring.
But I'm here in Austin, and I'm super happy today to be joined by the great, the hilarious
Giannis Papas, everybody.
Let him hear it.
Let him hear it.
Thank you.
Good to be here.
Just before, we'll mention it many times but uh long day's podcast is uh every saturday and
you dropped a new special on the youtubes called mom love that all you can do right all you have
to do right now is just type that into your search engine and watch it and it's fucking free and go
laugh and watch another great special it costs a share because there it is that's what it costs
yeah send it to your friends yeah and you know people that's how lazy we because people won't and watch another great special. It costs a share. There it is. That's what it costs.
Yeah, send it to your friends.
Yeah, and you know, people, that's how lazy we,
people won't even do that.
Yeah.
If I say, just text it to a friend, they don't do it.
No, I know, but it is like, look, something on it,
especially like, because there's this full special,
but you're probably going to have clips out, right?
Like you'll clip it out a little bit.
Yeah.
And like, those are the easiest to share too. It's like, one makes you laugh you just send it to your group yeah and then all of a sudden you
have 15 people just learned about it and then they tell other people yeah you have something to talk
about yeah something to share you have something to bond over something to get mad about that's
the best yes find something he says that really pisses you off yeah that's how that would that's like i think uh the number one american product right now that
rage rage yeah i'm pissed i'm pissed i'm fucking pissed and i wanna i would like to vent it online
and then when i see you just be very nice yeah exactly yeah that's true yeah that is like we're
all jekyll and hyde what is it though why are amer Americans more rageful, it feels like? Like, things can bother somebody from another country,
and I feel like their thing is, like, a Canadian, European, whatever.
It's like, we don't agree with this.
Right.
But, like, Americans are like, I'm going to show you how I can yell.
Yeah.
And how I can curse.
I think part of it is we don't have health care,
so we're a little, people are a little surly.
Yeah.
They're a little upset.
And we're also like, everyone wants to be like famous.
Yeah, they do.
So if they're not, they're mad.
And they're like, if I can scream,
maybe that'll make me famous.
But everyone's always just a little upset
that they're not Ben Affleck.
I feel like everyone else is just like,
why am I not Ben Affleck?
Yeah, Ben Affleck.
You know, and they're just, you know, cause he's like, whatever. He he's handsome. He's good
looking. He started with a good hit, but then he, he was able to fail into success. Geely,
a couple of bombs. I think he put on tights and did a superhero movie that sucked,
but they wouldn't let him fail. And people are like, why can't i live like that yeah my boss fucking fired me yesterday because i maybe did something wrong yeah i want to be like man
i want to just be able to have that american dream life that i know it's fucking it is also
i think a completely american thing to not that it doesn't exist in other places but i think americans are more obsessed with fame like being famous really carries something here that you don't like i think
there's other other cultures that just go like who cares and here it's like i'm famous people get
a clip uh like on youtube of like hey uh you know the person that vomited on the flight attendant?
That's me.
Yeah.
And like that's,
everyone's seen that?
Yeah.
I did that.
Yeah, you remember
the Long Island Bagel guy?
He just got his ass kicked
in a bagel shop
and that made him famous.
He's like, I'm the guy.
I'm the guy who was in there
who was like five foot three
who got tackled
in front of a bagel store
and then had a stroke.
I'm the guy who's like,
fuck women.
Yeah.
That's my thing.
It's me.
You guys recognize me?
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah.
It does seem like, I guess because we celebrate it.
We celebrate fame probably more than other,
but we're just like, you know, there's channels
and there's pages just dedicated to like,
it feels very American to say like, look what this person, this person was out at the park today.
Yeah.
This actress was at the park walking her dog.
Yeah.
And we go, look.
She's just like us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She's holding a coffee and we're like, wow, they are just like us.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know.
I have very rarely flipped out at a famous, like being around a famous person.
Yeah, I'm flipping out right now being around you.
I mean, yeah.
Imagine if that was the case.
I walked in and I was like shaking.
I'm like, Mr. Segura.
I have to say this.
This sounds like a real boast,
but it's happened to me a few times
where after shows I've met fans that get like that,
and I'm like, you really need to get your life together
i'm a fucking comedian yeah yeah yeah what is wrong with you yeah yeah save that shit for a
for fucking harry styles yeah it is really true i can't believe i'm meeting him like why
yeah we're like uh just barely in shape.
Yeah, man.
In between good looking and bad.
We look like normal guys.
Yeah.
And we are normal guys with a lot of flaws.
Yeah, comedy famous is a different thing.
It's totally different.
Save that shit for a legit hot guy.
You're making me feel bad.
You know, we're both good friends with ali right i love ali
we started together i love ali and i just i was just thinking what you were saying that like um
you know we me and her got lunch once and she was like concerned about being recognized or whatever
and i just felt like i'm saying like just take your glasses off
yeah take your glasses off nobody will you'll just be Asian like I just picture her going
like everyone's going
ah Italian
then she just goes
and then they just walk
right by her
you know
she squats down
and starts eating or whatever
yeah
she could
she could commit a crime
and just assimilate right in
yeah
sit on the floor
yeah
the people
all her fans going
where is she
they'll think you just got here.
Just sit down there.
Just eat rice out of this styrofoam container.
You'll hide.
You'll hide fine.
Yeah.
You know what's funny, though, about recognition is that it's nuts.
This happened during the pandemic.
I couldn't believe that you could wear a mask and people would be like, hey, man.
You're like
how do you fucking how right right but then i when i actually wrecked i oddly enough was at a coffee
place and turn see a guy in a mask and i go oh that's ben affleck and i like immediately yeah
you're like there's no oh there's no really hiding you'd have to do you have to do hat yeah big mask
yeah because like your features still come out right yeah you have to do hat, big mask, because your features still come out, right?
You have to do an oversized mask.
But it's crazy that you can actually identify somebody pretty quickly just from this.
Right.
Well, Bert, he'd have to put a shirt on, and then he'd hide.
Because he'd have a mask, and be like, there he is.
I can recognize his belly.
Bert does this thing, too, where it's like, we go out together.
And he's like.
Don't tell me he takes his shirt off before he sits down at the restaurant.
I mean, he's done it.
Does he go?
But like, he's like, everybody always recognizes me and not you.
I'm like, yeah, because you're loud.
Yeah.
Okay?
We just walked in.
You're like, hey, everybody.
And I'm like, they ain't fucking turned.
Toss me a course. Yeah. You're like, dude, this is steakhouse. But he does. He walks into places. He's like, hey, everybody. And I'm like, they ain't fucking turned. Toss me a course.
You're like, dude, this is steakhouse.
But he does.
He walks into places.
He's like, party start.
It's like, you're like, this is really a thing.
I'm going to get around for everybody.
You're like, OK.
Yeah.
You guys are like, yeah.
You're like Bobby De Niro in Goodfellas.
And he's like Joe Pesci.
It's like, eventually, you're going to have to kill him.
He's just bringing too much attention to you.
So much heat.
All this fucking heat.
You fucking Jew motherfucker.
Oh, Jesus.
He's so crazy.
I think he's posting his measurements every day right now.
Yeah, I mean, he just wears it so well, though.
He wears his weight, his shape so well.
He does.
He looks good in it.
It fits his face.
He actually does need a boat.
Because it is like a ship captain kind of persona.
Yeah.
I think, you know, because we all have a last chapter, right?
And sometimes they're ugly.
He, I picture his last,
he'll live on a boat
at some point.
Yeah, I think you're right.
And someone should just
push him out
with like just a keg.
Yeah.
And just,
just he,
like he's like a,
like a bird dying.
Yeah.
That's how you,
that's how Florida people
like to die,
like birds.
This guy right here.
I mean, he's got,
he's going to get skin cancer. Yeah yeah he's red dude yeah the funny thing is if you jesus christ i mean he's so sunburned that and that oh my god this is does he have to like train to party like the way athletes i train to i think sports
i think yes without thinking of it as doing so right so you're like you'd be like how are you
not hung over and he'd be like what are you talking about yeah and you're like but you're
just not hung over he's like oh i do this every day and then you're like oh this is training right
we're all hung over because we don't do this every day and then you're like oh this is training right like we're all hung over
because we don't do this every day you're doing it every day some people run every day yeah
like athletes stretch and uh you know they get on the treadmill he just has diarrhea and vomit
it's like i'm ready he told me that's his stretching i got it all out what are you
talking about i feel great he told me he has diarrhea every day.
Yeah, I know.
He drinks beer.
If I have like one beer, I can't shit straight for a month.
I know.
Let alone if I had a diet of beers and occasional food.
Oh, my God.
My favorite is when he goes, I haven't drank in a long time.
And I'm like, how long?
He's like, it's fucking, it's Wednesday, Sunday.
I'm like, that's not, that was three days, man. He's like, yeah, it? It's fucking, it's Wednesday, uh, Sunday. I'm like,
that's not,
that was three days,
man.
He's like,
yeah,
but I mean,
I'll drink tonight.
It'll be like,
it'd be like,
I haven't drank in years.
I'm like,
what?
He drinks in dog years.
Yeah.
It's like three days a year for me,
man.
Yeah.
Fucking out of his mind.
So crazy. He's doing, uh, he's doing the's doing the what's it called the fully loaded tour so if you
want to go see Bert and he has a fucking crew with him I mean the the comics the lineup is wild so go
see it it's a it's in a bunch of minor league baseball parks
and amphitheater. It's got
Burt,
Atel, Diaz, Fortune,
Shane Gillis, Nikki Glaser,
Chelsea Lynn, Mark Norman,
Big Jay Oakerson, Taylor Tomlinson,
Sal Vulcano. Wow, it's like a
full showcase show. That's a big
show. And it'll be like
outdoors and probably people doing 20 minutes.
And it's going to be super fun, entertaining, side things happening.
And it'll be a fun night.
What a great era, man.
What a great era.
That we're in right now?
Yeah, where comics are just like, hey, man, I'm going gonna make this the funnest possible he's doing this for fun yeah that's the that's why this is gonna work is
that it's it's that is his ultimate fun thing like when when the pandemic happened and touring
stopped he was the guy who actually spearheaded outdoor shows yeah you know so he did an outdoor
tour yeah where he was just doing these like you know uh
socially because people would stay in their vehicles and so i was like this sounds like a
fucking nightmare to me right and he was like i think it's the greatest thing of all time
and then i did one with him and i was like yeah i hated it and and he was like he's like really
i'm like yeah he was in heaven yeah he's like i really? I'm like, yeah. He was in heaven.
Yeah.
He's like, I mean, it's just like,
there's certain things that just are,
that line up for people.
They're just like a match. And that whole like outdoor fun in the sun thing.
I mean, that's who he is.
Yeah.
He's got a big, he's got a boisterous personality.
He does.
Yeah.
His comedy can penetrate through cars.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Go through metal.
Absolutely.
Whereas you're like,
you need people to have no obstructions between you and the person. Like, you know, yeah absolutely whereas you're like you need people to
have no obstructions between you and the person like you know yeah because you're in pocket you're
a little more like yeah i'm like can we get the cotton candy guy to take a break like i just want
to fucking yeah um yeah but another thing that's like huge in this era is the fact that like i i've always celebrated this i've celebrated this every
time it happens is that we we came from an era where you started where you go can i have permission
like may i do this and then you basically beg you beg somebody who doesn't know a fucking thing
about what we do to say yes i choose you and then we're like
thank you so much yeah and you just you know it's all it feels almost pathetic looking back on it
and now we live in a time where like if you want to do a podcast you get a mic you get a camera
you put out your podcast and it's just you put it out to the world but with stand-up with specials
my favorite thing that has come from the last few years
is comics putting out their own specials.
Because it was a thing, you know,
when we were growing up and probably first doing stand-up,
it was just HBO and just Comedy Central.
And basically HBO was unattainable.
You'd be like, I'm not going to end up on fucking HBO.
That's for George Carlinlin and robin williams and chris rock so we were all just like begging you know
just wishing that comedy central would look at us yeah and then as you know it evolves and like
became netflix and now now there's multiple platforms where it can happen but you don't
have to ask anybody anymore you don't have to say do anymore. You don't have to say, do you think I'm worthy? You can just shoot it and put it out.
And these things work, man.
They work.
People put these specials on YouTube.
And look, it's free.
Anybody can see it.
Anybody can share it.
And it turns into the same thing that the big platform specials turn into,
which is like awareness of the person and ticket sales,
which is ultimately what drives our business. So I just think it's great that you're doing that that you put out
another special like that and like i always encourage comics who are like watching or
listening talking about special like look man if you're ready like in other words the material's
ready if no one's fucking saying i'll do it it for you, fucking go do it yourself. Yeah. Like, you guys in New York, I feel like,
have done it the most, you know,
with Schultz and Mark and Shane and you.
It's like, you guys have shown that this works.
Yeah.
So it's fucking cool to watch.
Also, you know, other comedians share it,
which is a big part of the...
Big part.
Like, you have me on here to promote it,
and that's a big part of it, too,
is just, like, comics going,
hey, man, let's help this guy get out. Yeah. because like i think if like if you really are if you're a comedian you love comedy you want to celebrate comedians doing things like i like
comedians winning whether it's like a special or a move i'm like hey man you know like i i want
comedians to win yeah so like i think that's the cool thing
about like our fraternity as comics is that we all are like yeah of course i'll promote your thing
you know i also think it it's good in a selfish way when you think about it because like eventually
no matter how funny you are people are gonna be like i want to see i want to look at something
else of course and then that'll make them come back you know like oh let me take a break and check that out and then i'll come back because
eventually if it's just like i mean how many carly it's like you want a different flavor and there's
of course i need to go around and then you can and then you take a break from someone else and
you're watching something and yeah it just makes the whole thing that we all do look good yeah it
does it's like we're in control of what it is now and like we're making
it look good because who better to know who else is funny than someone who's funny exactly you know
it's like that's the only person i trust yeah when i'm watching like basketball uh you know
commentary yeah i'm always listening more to tim legler than i am to fucking steven a smith steven
a smith's entertaining yeah and i i enjoy him but but I want to hear what the players have to say.
Oh, yeah.
How great has J.J. been?
Oh, J.J.'s great.
He's like, what are you talking about, dude?
Have you ever suited up?
And they're like, no.
And you're like, you don't know what you're talking about.
He is fucking so on point.
And you get one every decade of the former player
who's on point with their analysis.
And really, you know, like when Romo broke in the football thing,
people were like, he's calling out plays before they happen.
They're like, yeah, he's a fucking quarterback
that knows how to read fucking tape.
So he's sitting there being like, look, man,
this is going to be a screen right here.
And everyone's like, oh my God, this is great.
Like he would just see the play happening.
Redick is like the basketball equivalent of that.
And I love that type of analysis.
I love watching sports that I enjoy where the analysis elevates the game.
And also coaches, former coaches, all the best coaches were former players
because they know they've been in the game.
And also you command a little more respect probably from the guys.
I mean, no disrespect to the Van Gundys, I mean,
but, like, if you're a 6'4 professional athlete
and some 5'3 bald guy comes down and goes,
guys, you got to play harder.
You're like, dude, what was the most work you did today?
You brushed your fucking teeth?
Was that the most movement you did?
Like, what are you talking?
I can't respect you as a my captain you're not
marcus aurelius i know get me ready for battle do you look like my fucking accountant trying to
motivate me to play a physical i know uh like civilized war it's not working it's fucking the
it's the worst when the the little dweebs and the the the fat turds become like these successful
coaches and you want to be like you don't deserve this man
like you weren't built for this
like get in the stands
I don't care if you're good at it
I don't respect you
go get a middle management job
you ever have a fat coach who's like
you guys gotta do another lap
why don't you do one lap
Stan Van Gundy you're fucking obese
you have no business coaching athletes the best athletes in the world.
I mean, he looks like just someone's dad.
How about that?
Do you remember that Kansas State coach a few years back?
I can't picture.
Go type in Kansas State, and I think his name was Mangiano,
something like that.
G?
Yeah. Something like that um g yeah something like that that guy
that guy's like yeah you're a piece of shit
do a lap that guy's got no business being anywhere besides behind a meat counter i mean right like
Anywhere besides behind a meat counter.
I mean, right?
You want the tomahawks?
We got tomahawks today.
Did you say extra bologna?
Yeah, I did.
Dude.
This is a guy in charge of athleticism.
Yeah.
Like in young men.
Yeah.
Get your guy's life together.
I'm the guy in charge.
In his defense, the football is that one exception that
if he was a lineman or something like that, those guys
just fucking blow out. They do.
They stop working because they just keep eating the way they eat.
Look at him staying next to
clearly a quarterback there. I mean, I'm guessing
this guy's not even six feet.
When you hire a guy like that, you don't even
have to worry about, is this our guy
for the long term? We got three years with this guy.
We got three years.
Look, let's just hope he dies in the offseason, all right?
Let's sign our recruiting class.
Then he goes, and we're good.
Jesus Christ.
You know, when he recruits, it's like you can just hear him breathe
in the living room.
He's one of those guys you can definitely hear breathe.
You can look at him and you know you can hear him breathe.
I can hear him.
I'm looking at his picture, and I can hear him breathe.
You know what would be a nightmare is to sit next to this guy on a flight.
Oh, Jesus.
It would be louder than the jet engines.
You'd be like, Jesus Christ.
And then if he falls asleep, you just keep nudging him away because he would start really roaring.
Yeah.
You know the crazy thing is you'd see him at
the facility and he'd be the kind of coach to be like you know that's what you've been eating you
look like you're putting on a little weight you have to be like really really guy yeah should i
try your diet is that what's gonna work he's like you and i aren't the same and you're like no i
know that i know that oh man i'm gonna live just a little bit longer. On average, it takes about 30 days for a person
to break their New Year's resolutions. It took me two. So if saving your money was on your 2024 list,
your odds aren't looking that great. Luckily, I have a 100% guaranteed way to save you money this
year. Just switch to Mint Mobile. Right now, Mint Mobile has wireless plans starting at $15 a month.
Mint Mobile. Right now, Mint Mobile has wireless plans starting at $15 a month. $15 a month? Are you kidding me? That takes your monthly nut and skinnies it up. And then think about what you can
do with all that extra money. All plans come with unlimited talk and text, plus high-speed data
delivered on the nation's largest 5G network. You don't really appreciate 5G until you get out of
this country. To get your new wireless plan for just $15 a month
and get the plan shipped to your door for free,
go to mintmobile.com slash bears.
That's mintmobile.com slash bears.
Cut your wireless bill to $15 a month at mintmobile.com slash bears.
Additional taxes and fees and restrictions apply.
See Mint Mobile for details.
Nobody gets mad when you fat shame guys.
That's true.
You're allowed to.
Nobody ever goes, you're being fat phobic.
You can call, you can be like, you fat piece of shit.
I also think.
Guys are just like, I know.
As long as you're carrying extra, like if you need to lose weight,
then like you can kind of, like if we were 160 pounds and we're doing this,
people are like, they're kind of mean.
Yeah, if you're fat yeah
you need to i need to lose weight so then they're like yeah it's all right i'm always fat and my
problem is like i'm a guy who looks like he shouldn't be fat yeah i mean i'm i feel like i
should lose 30 40 pounds yeah that's what i need to lose yeah i don't know you know i'm like in
between sizes right now which is real funny like I'm in between a large and extra large.
Yeah.
Which means when I go in, even to buy a t-shirt,
I have to try both on.
Oh, yeah.
And then sometimes I'll leave with neither.
Yeah.
Because it's like, am I going to wear a dress
or am I going to wear a leotard?
Yeah.
It's like, it just doesn't work, dude.
Am I going to look like I'm fucking just like,
you know, a ballerina or I'm going to a black barbecue?
And I'm in the same position and I fucking,
the worst is when they go, I had a shot something.
And so the wardrobe people were like,
sizes for like t-shirts.
I'm like, kind of varies.
What kind of, are we talking Italian sizes?
And they're like, what?
I go, I spent about half an hour buying t-shirts.
So I need to try a bunch on.
And they're like, can we get a size
I'm like I don't know
you ever go into like J.Crew or something
and like just grab t-shirts
and you didn't notice that it was a slim fit
and then you get home and it's just like hugging your stomach
I need standard fit
this is disgusting
and the worst is like putting on one of those
and someone's like those look good
and you're like no they
don't they don't i'm not going fucking deep sea diving these are fucking t-shirts yeah
fucking asshole but you know it's funny because when i see burton like a scuba suit whatever he's
in he looks it works it's because of the visceral fat. It's also the confidence in which he holds it.
It is.
He stands like a proud fat man.
Well, so what happens is his liver is distended.
And so the skin around him is very, very tight.
It's not loose fat.
It's pushing up on his organs.
Eventually, it will suppress all his organs and the blood supply will die.
But it looks kind of good
yeah
i love that this is a line here i've never seen before it says
why does the comedian take his shirt off like that's just like does that have an answer
like there's an article about it
if you've ever seen chrysler both both fans and the haters wonder why chrysler takes his shirt off
there's a good reason for his stylistic choice. This is fascinating.
This is what we deal with now as comics,
like people trying to just look in everything and try to...
I would too, though.
I get it.
I know why they hate us.
Like, it looks too fun.
Yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean?
It's like we actually can make entertaining stuff
like just two guys sitting down.
Yeah, just sitting down talking.
And so if I was watching this, I'd be like,
fuck these guys. They're having too good of a time and getting paid for it and
then they go digging into their past i and then they go like i you know i can do that or they
shouldn't be allowed to make a good living doing that and i totally get that too because i think
if i were at home you know just watching that yeah i'd be like wait they they fucking do theaters
and stuff this is fucking stupid and then you and then you think the thing is that they think they can do it you like when
you when you watch like somebody do you're like i could do that or like my friend could do that
you can't no you can't i used to actually put people up yeah like when i had like a workout
room yeah with al used to do all the time it was bar four it was like this legendary room in new
york city it was like jail rules it was like this legendary room in New York City.
It was like jail rules.
It was completely crazy.
And if someone started heckling, I would put them up.
I'd go, because I used to host and I'd go long and it was just a crazy show.
And I'd go, I'd give you two minutes, three minutes.
And I'd get in there and I'd heckle them.
And they'd bomb, like they would bomb.
And it was just fun to watch.
I'd be like, all right.
You know?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, if someone was like,
you're treating a comic badly, not funny. I like all right it's your turn next you're next
and their disposition completely changes oh yeah they go up there kind of cocky because yeah yeah
and then they and then as soon as they feel that silent when you turn around you feel that silence
and you're like i gotta turn this silence into something but you don't have the tool
oh it's like a guy with a gun coming at you and you're just standing there or it's like a chicken when a fox shows up you're just like fuck yeah like chickens just me like
when when like a owner leaves the chickens outside of the coop and that moment when they
see the eyes of the fox the chickens must be going looking down and just going fuck dude
fuck yeah like i fuck that's all they can do is just they just try to they know it's over they
gotta know it's over it is such a they have nothing to defend themselves you can't really
i i always i was trying to always describe what it feels like to bomb you know and like one of
the ones that just the things i came up with was like have it, it's like professing your love to someone
in front of people.
That's perfect.
In front of people.
That is so perfect.
And then the person's like, uh, no.
Yeah.
And you're like, um.
Dude, I have nothing.
And you're like, what?
You just want to die?
I have zero to add to that.
That is the best, most accurate description.
Of bombing.
That's it.
Yeah.
That is it.
It's like, yeah, professing your love and getting rejected is embarrassing enough.
Yeah.
Imagine you doing that in front of people.
In front of people.
It's exactly what it is.
Yeah.
I mean, it almost reminds me of those, you've seen those clips of the guy proposing at a
game. Yeah. And the guy proposing like at a game.
Yeah.
And the girl's like, no.
And you're like, oh.
It's like that has to feel, I mean.
Your skin gets hot.
Yeah.
Like your skin starts, you know,
it feels like you have COVID.
Like your skin gets hot.
Yeah.
You want to get out of your skin.
You want to get out of your body.
You have an out of body experience.
Like you feel lightheaded.
You can feel the blush.
You can feel the blood rushing your cheeks and you just you remember them too like you know once
you've done stand-up for a long time you've done you've done thousands of hours of stand-up
basically right you've done just so many shows and if somebody were like do you remember
great moments you're like yeah i remember you know i remember like a couple zings back in the
moment at hecklers i remember shows that were like rock shows where you're like jesus christ
like beginning to end this was unbelievable as an experience right like but you go man those like
bombs they have a special category in your memory oh yeah like i mean i can remember
like a year one and year two uh doing sets you know these are like bringer shows and stuff
where like i'd say a line and and just hearing someone there's 25 people going like oh god
they're just saying that and you're like and you're not prepared for it yeah it's not like someone
saying it now yeah yeah where you know how to address it yeah you just were like and you just
you know you could feel your whole body get hot and and you're and what it feels like is it feels
like someone is mocked imagine someone mocking you yeah that's what you feel you're being mocked
yeah you're being bullied it feels like you're being bullied yeah yeah and you're all you're
also the most you're the only one being vulnerable yeah so it's almost
it's a version of being like i want to tell you how i feel today this one's being like oh jesus
christ and you're like it's the reason why guys don't talk about their feelings in front of their
guy friends exactly because like as soon as they say something vulnerable guys like come don't be
a girl yeah i'm sorry yeah i didn't you know i'm just gonna go eat more yeah i'm just gonna go eat more and just and lie i'm
gonna lie about how i feel all the time all the time yeah i just i'm scared we just did we just
like encourage someone because you were like i only remember i remember a few heckles no someone
out there going like i'm gonna go to tom show and yannis's show and make it memorable now because
here's the thing don't do that us and everybody there hates you yeah and like it memorable. Nah, because here's the thing. Don't do that. Us and everybody there hates you.
Yeah.
And, like, it happens anyway.
There's people who heckle all the time.
I mean, the only difference now is that, you know,
I have fucking mercenaries at the show that'll break your neck.
Here's the deal.
I don't.
So please just sit in silence.
Sit in fucking silence, please.
Yeah.
No, it's like,
because someone charges stage on me,
I'm just going to take it
like one of those high school beat-ins
where you just curl up
and you just take Timberland boots to the head.
Just...
God.
But there's nothing like bombing, dude.
It is the fucking worst.
It's the fucking worst.
It is.
That is the perfect...
I've never even thought about trying to find an analogy for it.
Yeah.
And like, I don't think there's a better one.
Maybe the only other people who feel that are chickens when they see the fox.
Yeah.
Completely defenseless.
I can't.
I'm not fast enough to run.
I have nothing.
You just take it.
You just take it right on the chin.
And then the funny thing is when you leave. I got this he's a such a funny comic sergio chicon he had one of the
funniest bomb stories he goes i bombed so hard i left my jacket there
you know you just want to get out that adds up yeah yeah you're like i gotta go he just got home
and realized like in 12 degree weather that he left his jacket.
He's like, I had to get out of there.
He didn't even realize he was cold.
Yeah, he didn't realize he was cold.
He got home, he was like, oh, I'm cold.
I'm cold, yeah.
You just walk home, though,
just thinking about the bomb over in your head.
You go like, should I be doing this?
I probably shouldn't be doing this.
Yeah, I shouldn't be doing this.
Yeah.
You're trying to explain.
And one time I bombed with somebody.
I invited someone to a show,
which was not the norm at the time.
So he saw the bomb.
And I was like, you know, the thing is, man.
I started like, what time is it?
It's too fucking late right now.
You're trying to explain it.
He was like, yeah, no, it is late.
They always go like, man, the crowd.
They always go, and you know it wasn't the crowd
and they know
it wasn't the crowd
everyone's just trying
to make it comfortable
I think they were
just not educated
I don't really know
and they're like
yeah no
it's good
you're good
keep doing it man
keep doing it
yeah keep
y'all keep doing it thing
or the gloss over look
when you're standing
next to somebody
who did do well
and they kind of
give you that and they gloss over like you're not there like hey who did do well yeah and they kind of give you that
and they gloss over like you're like you're not there like hey man you were really great and then
they go oh you too man but you know the oh you too is just sort of a social yeah that's a good
one yeah oh you too man you were good and you're like you didn't have to i i know what's going i
know what happened yeah i know what happened i know i know what's going on. Or the show where people do well and you don't.
Yeah.
And you're like, what's up with this crowd?
Yeah.
And they're like, they're pretty great.
When you go up, Bob, you get off and you go, crowd's whack.
And then the next guy just murders and you just sit there and you go like, my data was wrong. There's also the almost equally uncomfortable,
not quite, but like uncomfortable feeling
if you do well after someone says this crowd sucks
and you have to be like, yeah, no, they're not good.
You're essentially trying to make it more comfortable for him.
Yeah, yeah.
No, they were kind of tough.
I don't know what it was. I don't know what's going on.
I think they warmed up.
They just needed to warm up a little bit.
I needed like fucking 15 seconds.
Yeah.
And they're like, right.
No, you set me up well.
Yeah.
Yeah. It's, you know, up well yeah it's you know my therapist it's funny it's my therapist is like you know what your problem is your problem is you care too much about what people think i'm
like yeah yeah do you not see what i fucking do for a living of course what do you want me to stop
caring about what people think then i'll just go out there and be one of those sociopaths who comes
up and goes crowd's great and everyone's like you just yeah it's like i don't care what people think then i'll just go out there and be one of those sociopaths who comes up and goes crowd's great and everyone's like you just popped yeah it's like i don't care what
people think i think we know who you're talking about my therapist told me not to care yeah now
i'm a full person it's like yeah now you're a horrible comedian yeah not caring about what
people think will make me a horrible comic and i don't buy any of those fucking guys that say that
shit either the ones who are like you know they just don't
give a fuck it's like you know you do you do that you do this because you do yeah like there's no
such thing as there's only like three comedians who i genuinely believe are so like are so like
into what they're doing that they don't care how it goes, but they still are comedians,
and their objective is to be funny,
but they don't care like most of us do about how it goes.
Norm Macdonald was like that,
where you're like, this guy is a wildly funny guy,
but he really would dig his heels in on some insane bit.
And if it bombed, I actually believe that he did not care.
That he would just be like...
I mean, the stories too about people told me in Canada
that when he started,
and he was getting a name for himself in Canada.
I mean, this was like 30 years ago.
If he bombed, like bombed,
he would go out in the lobby and make sure to shake
everyone's hand that was leaving and if he killed he would stay in the green room i was like that is
a fucking comedian that's great yeah like he was not about he was just like did you have fun at the show they were like you were horrible that was
he was making it funny for him
yeah
yeah
another guy was like
Patrice
I don't think Patrice cares
that's another guy
I think sometimes
it almost looked like
he was doing it on purpose
to dig himself a hole
to get out of it
for his own
enjoyment
like a predator
batting around
like a lion
batting around a prey he even
said that he that famous line of his was that like he he was like i would rather them hate me
or love me but nothing like yeah between yeah i don't want them to be like he was all right yeah
you know i kind of like him i kind of get that a little bit i do too that in between shit is the
worst it is like funny yeah it's okay or uh the other one was like how was when someone goes hey just saw the show pretty funny yeah
pretty funny you're like that's not what i'm going for man like pretty funny yeah i want to either
you to like hate me so you because you the other otherwise you're just not remembered
you're not and it's like you kind of go like am i saying anything am i doing anything
because this person just walked out going like funny yeah you're like i mean that's that's to
me that's the equivalent of going up to a girl and being like you're not bad looking you're not
hot yeah you're not ugly you're fine i'd fuck you yeah if there was no one else around maybe maybe maybe i might yeah is that a compliment yeah it's pretty funny it feels like quite a slight actually yeah it is
it is i'd rather be hated i get what he's saying yeah i think i went a little too far earlier in
my career with that yeah yeah i did you'd lean into pissing them off i would yeah would you go
in there with like these were but these were worked out bits they were bits or, yeah, it just wasn't a good comic yet.
So you were just, like, leaning into, like, I'm going to piss them off.
Yeah, like, if it didn't get the reaction I wanted, I would, yeah, I would yell at them.
Yeah.
I would just yell at them.
But see, no, but, like, I think that makes a lot of, like, to me, that makes a lot of sense.
Because what ultimately, like, you're saying, like, you weren't ready yet.
But the truth is, you wanted to kill. Yeah. You you wanted to kill and you just hadn't developed it enough yet yes so
like that reaction is actually like a very natural one it's like you're not gonna laugh hard well
then fuck you yeah you know yeah i guess you know retrospectively yeah i guess that's exactly what
was behind it was like yeah and also sometimes it would get me going like sometimes it would get me
going like if i started screaming at them and then like it would get some click that you know
that sort of discomfort or anger that gets your funny going yeah yeah well i feel a sense of
euphoria when i know i've really upset people you know like i I love that feeling.
Like, if people are in an audience and I say something and they're like, you ruined our night, I'm like, you're the worst.
I fucking love it so much.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know what it is it's like yeah especially especially if it's
if it's funny and it does that that's like the ultimate win yes is that if it's like undeniably funny it's laughing but people are like jesus christ oh that's that feeling is like it's almost
like the most addictive part of this whole thing yes Yes, because you're like being a rascal.
Yeah, you are.
It's you being a kid again.
Yes.
It's like getting in trouble in class.
You're like, oh, now there's a principal again.
So now there's stakes.
Yeah, yeah.
Now I want to see if I can beat you.
Shouldn't be saying this.
This is going to piss you off.
But I won because people are kind of laughing.
Especially in this era, it's fun again because you see the millennials or the younger people.
I know it's cliche to say millennials,
but younger people have a different ethos now.
They put every joke through this kind of computer of morality.
So it's fun to watch them.
They're like the new Catholic priests.
You tell a joke and you see them like...
Did he say triad? I can't smile.
And then they just start proverbially whippling themselves
like a priest with his dick in his hand
like
and you're just sitting up there
as a comedian
like Gargamel or whatever
Mr. Burns
it's so great now I mean it is a thing too where
I was like you want to take people
in that category and put them
in a crowd of like the rest of society
yeah and just being like this is this is out there too this is this is most people actually
yeah i think you're in your bubble a little too much yes because if you get tied into like the
academia bubble i mean that is like it's a false representation of the world it's for sure i mean
those people live in a community of contemplatives
like away from the they're not even subject to the marketplace i know like professors
like capital you're like dude you haven't had to worry about your job security yeah in 40 years
yeah so it's like what a part of me is always going like why am i listening to you sure i mean
you know you don't have as much wisdom as even a guy who's like selling hot dogs on the street right you're an intellect i get that but there's um
this whole the a young person one of the like the young people sort of mantras of today is that
nothing should ever be said that bothers me like you know like yeah that's like the agenda the
agenda is well people are saying some certain things that bother me yeah and like i feel
like we should change the world yeah it's like that's not an agenda no like the world has has
lots of things that'll bother you yes and words should be like almost the least of your work
because there's like horrible things being done all the time and you're worried about somebody saying a word or a phrase that you think is outdated like that's what you're standing up for yeah and
like and the fact that you think that your sensibilities should never be violated why
yeah like that happens all this this is real life yeah even if we are saying something offensive or
you're hurt by it in some way we're preparing you for what life's gonna do of course life cancer is gonna hurt your feelings a lot more yeah or when your friend gets
it it's gonna you know or like you just haven't gone through anything yet exactly yeah you don't
know yeah like that's why people who have gone through things and old like you ever wonder why
older people you go like this guy doesn't give a fuck look what he's wearing yeah and you're like
yeah he really doesn't he does because's actually, he knows what life is.
He knows it doesn't matter.
Yeah.
I had this old joke off my last special
about growing up in New York,
because I grew up in New York during the 80s and early 90s.
It was a horrible time.
Yeah.
And the joke was something like, you know,
because back then you would turn a corner
and it was just the normal thing
to see like a group of 40 fucking kids. And if you grew up in New York, you know what back then you would turn a corner and it was just the normal thing to see like a group of 40 fucking kids and if you grew up in new york you know what i'm talking you turn
the corner and you just you knew it you just you were like oh it was just a luck bad like there
was just a group of kids and you had to walk through and like you were gonna get hit you were
gonna get hit and my joke is like basically if I walk through those kids and all that happened was one of them called me a Greek faggot.
Yeah.
That was like one of the best memories of my childhood.
I was like, what a fucking good day.
Yeah.
Your mom's like, how was school today?
It was great.
It was fucking great, dude.
I got called a Greek faggot.
That's it.
I have my hat.
I mean, I got my shoes stolen off my feet one time.
Really?
And I had to walk home in slush.
Really?
Yeah, that's what it was like.
Were they good shoes?
They were Timbos.
I loved them.
I saved them.
And my Christmas money out of my bus pass.
They took that too.
It was a really emasculating robbery where they walk with you and ask you what you have.
They were shopping on me.
These guys shopped on me. They took their time yeah like i worked yeah
what else you got how much is it like you think that's worth anything and i'm like yeah probably
you should take that i just walked home in white socks and slush jesus christ you know what is the
thing too about we were just talking about this why new yorkers we
were saying how new yorkers are so funny and my theory was like we just talked like if you go like
your average guy in new york you're like this guy's fucking so funny the hot dog guy the deli guy
right and i i don't know if i'm right but i I was like, you know, the thing is, I feel like most of this country, like you're here, you're in L.A., you're isolated.
So your personality, you share selectively, but you're in a car and then you arrive at a place.
And the thing about New York is that you're just always around people.
It doesn't matter.
If you're on the subway, you're next to a thousand people.
You get off, you're walking the streets,
there's a fucking million people.
So you're just always with people and they're people from everywhere.
So it's like this,
it's like your personality gets to be on display
and almost gets more developed that way.
Whereas like if you're in a lot of other cities,
it's like you walk from your house to your driveway,
you get in the car, you drive to the building,
you talk to this person and that person, then you just sit down at your office like you're
never really engaged with people unless you go i choose to be but in new york it's forced upon you
i think yeah again fucking nailed it you pin the town the donkey that's exactly what it's
you know you can tell the written boston too same thing yeah exactly quick abrasive
we're always thinking they They're so funny.
They're so funny.
Boston may be the funniest of the most comics.
Great comics come out of Boston.
And they have that manic.
You can almost tell like they're scared.
They're like, we grew up scared.
Like, fuck you.
Here's a joke.
Here's a joke.
Fuck it off me.
Don't hit me.
Who are you?
I don't know who you are.
You a threat.
Are you going to rape me?
Oh God, there's priests.
There's fucking things everywhere.
There's like things that can hurt you
everywhere
so you develop
a quick wit
and a
it's a defense mechanism
where you guys like
you know are also
really funny
the rest of the country
but it's a different style
it is a different style
come into my world
come here
yeah
we're like
we're a little invasive
we're like
yeah
and you guys
like hey man chill
just you know you can you can do it this week you can be here and we're like yeah and you guys like hey man chill just you know
you can
you can do it this
you can be here
and we're like
no you gotta be here
right right
you're like no dude
you can just
yeah New York is like
you're okay
it's like an attack
a personality is like an attack
it's like an attack
you're like
Jesus Christ
is this what this guy's like
all the time
he's like yes
he wakes up like this
yeah
it's like an attack
it can be a little much it can be a
little too much it can be yeah i've learned that in traveling doing comedy you get to feel the um
you get to feel sort of the uh the cultural uh energy of a place and it's like you're like whoa
i'm the dick like i'm the dick yeah i am a dick right in new york it's just like i trust this guy
yeah this guy's telling it like it is yeah like no maybe i I am a dick. Right. In New York, it's just like, I trust this guy. Yeah.
This guy's telling it like it is.
Yeah.
Like, no, maybe I'm being a dick.
Yeah.
Maybe I shouldn't have said that person's fat to their face.
Yeah.
You don't have to do that.
I'm just keeping it real here.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I'm telling it like it is.
I'm telling it like the fuck it is.
I mean, look, she's a house.
Yeah.
You're like, dude, that's your aunt, and she's here.
Yeah.
That's fucking, that is, yeah. Then you go to the place, you go to the Midwest, and like's here. Yeah, that's fucking, that is, yeah.
Then you go to the place, you go to the Midwest and like,
you know, oh, people can, you know, you don't have to do that.
Right.
But then you also learn, oh, yeah, they're passive aggressive.
Sure.
Very.
Very passive.
And what you learn is that that thing that's always getting out
when you're in New York and Boston, that like the thing,
like it's never suppressed.
It's suppressed there in the Midwest and it's that like the thing like that it's never suppressed it's suppressed there
in the midwest and it's just below the surface yeah and this this formality stuff you're like
they're so nice they're like they want to rip your fucking eyes out of your head and if you
say the wrong thing it's gonna happen yeah like jeffrey dahmer if you saw him at a comedy show
he'd be the most well-behaved oh yeah just be sitting there haha and then he'd be like
good one yeah good one and then he'd be like, good one. Yeah, good one.
And then he'd go home and just nom-nom on a head.
Nom-nom-nom.
Note it is, too, Jews help.
Yeah.
Jews help.
Being around Jews helps.
We're trying it here.
Yeah, you got to have Jews.
Like, Texas needs some Jews.
Yeah.
Without Jews,s make you improve
things yeah because they're always finding problems sure so it's like i was always thinking
if like if hitler got rid of the jews yeah germany would stop evolving at some point they'd be like
everything's great nothing we don't need you're like no dude you need somebody to be like this
walls not in problems and this for you to go yeah we should address that yeah that is too low
and this is too hot
and yeah
so having Jews
makes you a complainer
sure
and that's why
they're so good at comedy
yeah they're good at comedy
always something wrong
and a city with a lot of Jews
it's a nice city
it's a nice city
yeah
they complain
and you need that
yeah true
you need that to evolve
that's true
Beverly Hills
fucking
look how nice it is
so many Jews
then you go down to Florida
it's heaven down here
only the beach communities
the Jews don't go inland in Florida
no
they see Bert Reich and they go
oh god
Palm Beach
you don't want to ride a crocodile
no
take it easy puppy just kidding He's like, what, you don't want to ride a crocodile? They're like, no.
Take it easy, puppy.
Just get a treat.
I'm like an animal.
Just throw Bud Light limes at them.
Go away.
Go away.
That works.
Yeah, it works. That works.
Yeah.
Yeah, they do help.
They do.
They do make things really great.
That's why I think they just sometimes, I think they get a lot of unwarranted hate is because they're always seeking to be comfortable so they improve stuff they're good
they're successful that is a really good looking to improve evolve right and you'd like a lot of
you know there's maybe a constant here is that a lot of shitty cities in the united states no jews
i didn't say it yeah we're doing doing, I think what we're doing here
is the opposite of anti-Semitism.
I think we are.
I think we're saying,
hey, Topeka, Kansas,
you want to flip things around?
Yeah.
I mean, you got the wrong person.
Open a couple temples, you know?
I mean, dude, you go to Tel Aviv.
Yeah.
It is like my cousin married an Israeli,
my first cousin,
and I've been there many times.
It is fucking lit.
I mean, Tel Aviv is one of the best cities.
There's a reason why it's one of the most expensive cities in the world.
It's because it's great.
And they did that under constant fire and pressure.
And it's like a diamond.
You go to Tel Aviv, you're like, this is one of the best cities.
It's like, yeah, there's a lot of Jews.
They do it right, man.
They know what they're doing.
I would leave your anti-Semitism at home if you're visiting Tel Aviv.
Like, I eat really good pussy yeah and i do i didn't i was sorry it just took me i was like
what it's what you call a paradigm shift in conversation what's your style like my style
is i was brought up in the jewish girl school of jujitsu. Okay. Like a Gracie school.
My style is like most of my girlfriends were Jewish and they have a very, like they can't feel a lot.
You know, they're always thinking about other things
that are bothering them.
So they're not in the moment.
They're never in the moment.
So you really have to get good.
Okay.
So in order for them to feel anything
because they're thinking about the weather,
the blinds would be down or whatever.
You got to really nail it. Yeah. So after like tons of that i mean i was like ben wallace training in like a
fucking low budget i'm like fucking rocky chasing tickets you go up you go everywhere and then you
focus on on the boat or what do you do i well i do i like to do a little uh flood city little hook
and pull okay okay so you hook and pull okay at the same time I get in there and up. Yeah. And then with the clit, it's like, yeah, you gotta, you gotta, you gotta mix it up, dude.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I go sideways.
I do addition, subtraction, addition.
Yeah.
This is good stuff.
Yeah.
But you gotta play them like an, you gotta play them like an instrument too.
You gotta get the, like, you gotta read their body motions.
Like when they, if they, you can tell they're getting a little bored, then you switch it
up.
It's like with a crowd.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like,
Oh,
you know,
I,
I better switch to crowd work cause they're not responding.
Yeah.
So I actually do.
I go,
Hey,
what do you do?
Oh,
it's your job.
All right,
great.
I got him going.
Jokes again.
Jokes again.
That's a good,
that's a good class.
People got the wrong outlook on Jews man
they're great
they're great
they fucking invented comedy
how great is that
you know
they control the weather
it's usually good
yeah
interest rates
interest rates are real
they keep it moving
yeah
wow
yeah
god
Jew appreciation episode.
They teach you how to eat box.
Dude, there is no way.
The control the weather one is funny because it's just kind of random.
Yeah.
It's kind of a random one.
And they control the weather.
You're like, why would anyone do that?
Yeah.
Who wants that?
Why would anyone go like, what's going on in Greenland today?
Oh, boy.
Yeah, there's people.
Yeah, we got to make sure. anyone go like, what's going on in Greenland today? Oh, boy. Yeah, there's people. Yeah, we got to make sure.
You're like, what?
What's the benefit of that one?
It's such a bizarre thing to be, I don't know, racist about, too.
It's very weird, yeah.
Yeah, it rained today.
Fucking Jews.
What?
Who says that?
God damn it. so fucking windy yeah they kind of get that i think a little bit of the hate is just because they're they do so well it's under under pressure do well and also um groups that are
loyal to their own group yeah bothers because outsiders because they go i want that yeah i want
someone to hook me up with a good
doctor and the real estate person and then how come they're sharing this with each other yeah
because that's like that's what loyalty and like keeping your group together is right it's like
family greeks do it sure it's all it's a family and every group really does it yeah i mean the um
chinese and the koreans and in like los angeles probably New York too, they'll do things, because this is not illegal, they'll
list apartments
for rent only
in the Chinese newspaper.
So you have to read
Mandarin to
know that there's, they're not saying
no one's allowed to rent this, but
Learn Chinese if you want.
And you also better pick up the mandarin
newspaper yeah like that's how you're gonna find that yeah they're they're crushing it right now
yeah i went to my brother-in-law's graduation he's an egghead he's gonna be a doctor so he
went one of the good schools he's a bio major and i tell you there is no diversity at that graduation
i remember the non-asian names really i remember them
congratulations sharifa and kelly constantino yeah because the rest of it just sounded like
noises yeah it sounded like a hat comic from the 80s i mean it was just
sound like andrew dice clay was just doing his set i mean it was just asian and next we have
his set i mean it was just asian and next we have portantan i mean it was i mean it was asian name after asian name after asian name i remember i did a show at carnegie mellon and uh i was bombing
and i thought it was because i was bad and then i kind of really got a look at the crowd and i was
like they don't speak english yeah they don't even know what i'm saying they
were all indian and asian yeah and it was like they're not from here they're just they're just
like killing it yeah and it's not because they're like inherently smart or whatever they just work
harder yeah like you know they go home and their parents like i don't know make them sleep outside
or if they get a beer or whatever they're doing something to motivate them. Well, they're also, they get that thing, I guess a lot of other cultures don't,
where they go, we came to this country,
we sacrificed everything,
you're gonna kill it in school.
Yeah.
And guess what?
You're gonna be a doctor.
Yes.
You know?
And if you're gonna sleep outside.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like with the dog,
you sleep outside or you get hit or something.
I mean.
They're doing something to motivate them.
We had in my high school, a small high school.
And there was like, there were some really smart kids, but there was a couple.
There were a couple that were, you know, like they, a van would come to the high school
and take them to the community college because they didn't offer high enough level courses
at our school.
Wow.
So they would take that and then bring them back you know so they would have to do it in
like a two-hour period to go like take a college level calculus course because no
teacher would teach that at our school come back yeah and these kids this
couple kids had like 4.2 GPAs and then they also were like classically trained piano players and also placed in states
for like swim team and you're like what the like it's actually looking back on it that I go like
this is unbelievable because I was just like you know can I jerk off during lunch yeah like that
was my thought let's go get twinkies yeah and I'm like who thinks like that at like 15 yeah like you know we were just trying
to figure out a place to smoke weed yeah during during the day and and these kids were doing
stuff where i'm like i appreciate it more now that how driven they were yeah at that age i just can't
even begin to wrap my head around it comfort corrupts a little bit right yeah it does like
our all our parents and
grandparents were probably like that and then like i'm sure those kids when they have kids
you know they're going to be like i want to be a poet yeah you know he's like i was playing
violin or yeah i don't want to do an asian accent i want harry come on it's the only one you're not
allowed to do yeah you can't do that you can't do indian right those two yeah you can't do those anymore you can't do that one
but you can do all the other ones you can do all the other ones no problem
so that's isn't that kind of a bizarre thing yeah yeah it is yeah yeah
you can do all the accents you want to do yeah as long as this skin pigmentation is lighter
yeah you can even do
like you and like you know they have a sense of humor about it but as soon as you go seven
fucking hitlers are in the room you're like oh dude i'm just the guy sounds like that you can't
i mean yeah better way yeah better why yeah i don't know i don't know why that is but it is the
thing but yeah those kids
eventually would just be like yelling at their parents like we are like yeah kids now yeah you
understand dad yeah you understand and if you if you did that to an asian parent again i think you
sleep outside yeah i think so too yeah they have a high standard for their kids i mean my sister
or maybe it's just marching orders from their government to conquer us.
Maybe.
Maybe this is all affiliated with the CCP.
That's true.
It could be.
And they're getting funded and going, we're going to take them over from within.
I mean, look, it's happening.
It's happening.
Why are we acting like it's, I mean, and the thing is that I think we're just too old now
to dive into Mandarin.
It's just going to break our brains break.
Yeah.
You know? So brains break. Yeah. You know,
so that sucks.
Yeah.
But if you're watching and you're like 21 sign up today.
Yeah.
Cause that's going to be how you,
how you get around in a few years.
They're buying everything.
Sorry,
Allie.
To apologize twice to you on this episode.
She would totally be like, you can't do that.
And I'd be like, why?
But you can go up there and be like, I'm a Greek.
Yeah, of course.
But I can't go, you squat down and eat out of a styrofoam container.
I've seen it.
I've seen it. I can't say you pick your nosefoam container. I've seen it. I've seen it.
I can't say you pick your nose on a train.
I've seen it.
Seen it.
Many times.
How about when you're in Hong Kong and you're in the malls,
and even on the mainland too, and there's signs that's like-
You just did something to me right there.
What?
That you weren't even aware of.
What?
You assumed that I have enough money to be in Hong Kong.
That's what happens when you get successful. You forget're like oh yeah i forgot you're not one of like you're here for
help but when no no no no it's like you know it's when you're sitting in saudi arabian uh prince's
house you know what i'm talking about actually uh no i don't you know a couple times here i visit my place in hong kong
you gotta change you gotta be like you know when you're in like an applebee's you're in applebee's
but it's in hong kong yeah you get the two for 20 meal but they have signs in malls on the in
mainland and in hong kong that say like don't shit on the floor here and that is for uh the chinese like um you know farmer like the blue
collar people who they live out you know but because the majority of china you know china's
1.2 3 billion people yeah most of those like the higher end of that is rural it really is you know
and it's hundreds of millions of people. So they live culturally completely differently
than people in the big cities.
So there are signs that are like,
don't shit on the floor here.
Because a lot of times out rurally,
you just drop, trowel, and you just shit.
Shit.
Wow.
Yeah, so sometimes if they visit a big city,
they'll be like, I got to shit.
I'm just going to do it right here. They're like, not here. Don't shit here. Wow. Yeah. So, so sometimes when they come, if they visit a big city, they'll be like, I got to shit. I'm just going to do it right here. They're like, no, not here.
Don't shit here. Wow. Yeah. That's incredible.
Because they were, they were recently, yeah.
They've recently kind of modernized. Yes. So.
And it's funny too, because they'll tell you that like,
you can tell new money in. If they just shit in a toilet.
No, if they, if they're just like, wow, is rich it's you need to get on my rug
yeah this guy's really educated yeah
they have uh it's no different than new money here though it's like you see and it's i don't
know why it's funnier to see it like a little Chinese guy
But like you see a little Chinese dude, and he's like wearing
Gucci like Gucci silk shirt, and he's got the like the shoulder strap
Fendi he's got these wraparound
This guy this guy just found out he has like 40
And they're like, this guy just found out he has like $40 million.
So wait, are the no shit on the street signs the equivalent of our like no hat, no sneakers signs?
You got to do money?
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
Yeah, I think so.
I think so.
I was like, you got it.
It's a little more extreme.
Here, like here you see somebody. I guess the other thing is that there you might see that and be like,
this guy just from the fucking sticks.
Yeah.
You know?
Look at this redneck taking a shit.
But like here if you see someone drop their pants and shit.
You got to give them medication.
You're like, call 911 and somebody is really into their heroin. Like you just know.
It's not just somebody who's like,
I didn't know you do that.
Yeah.
I'm sorry, I'm from the farm.
Yeah, I'm a farmer.
What the fuck?
Oh, man, that's interesting.
Yeah.
Yeah, that happens.
They got to get some bathrooms out to those people.
I think so.
They got enough money,
but they're spending it all on taking over our country.
Yeah.
They own more real estate here. They pay cash. Yeah. They yeah they pay cash yeah and it's funny because people you know people
will be very national everyone's like that's why we're so easy to conquer because we don't have any
thing that unifies us yeah that's why i think we were talking before about how like
um other countries they're a little more like unified It's not just fame that they're after.
It's because they have an identity.
They're all Norwegian.
They get drunk and sing Norwegian songs.
That only happens here during the Olympics.
Not even anymore.
Did you notice that the Olympics used to be
something that we would all celebrate?
I feel like now they come and go
and you're like,
it used to be a thing where the country would be like... I feel like now they come and go and you're like, oh, like it used to be a thing
where like the country would be like,
I feel like the coverage, everybody was watching it
and we were just so unified in that.
Absolutely.
Even if it's just for those whatever,
three weeks or something.
I remember, yeah, I know exactly what you're saying.
And now I remember that like the Olympics,
I'm like, who watches the Olympics?
Yeah, I think it speaks to how divided we are too.
Like we're just like all separated and stuff but yeah when i would go to scandinavia
they would get drunk and they would sing us like a nationalist song that they all knew and they
were like young people and it was like cool and hip and sing these stupid songs and i was like
we don't get it together and get drunk and sing born in the usa do you think part of that though
because i've always wondered about this is that when you're basically
at the top of the food chain power wise like you know america is the most powerful nation
uh that has the most money the biggest military that it's almost like it's it's like um it's like
being the best looking having the biggest dick and being like look at it and everyone's like yeah we know like everybody knows yeah i think you're right so you're like
we already looked at you no look again these four-inch guys have songs yeah you know it's
like it's fun yeah but like we we it's almost like people are embarrassed to be pro-american
right but if you're can or Mexican or Irish or whatever,
you're from Norway, you just are like,
I love my country.
Everyone there is like, yeah.
But here, people are like, calm down.
It's weird, too, because this is the only country,
we're the only country where it almost feels like
if you have an American flag,
there's another group that might call you racist.
It's wild, yeah.
It's weird.
That's the national flag.
Like, what's going on with that guy?
But he loves his country, just like the Norwegians.
Sure.
No, he doesn't.
He hates people.
Right.
You're like, I don't know.
Maybe he just has a kid in the military.
Sure.
So a lot of times the flags are just because, like,
you definitely know you're in a Republican neighborhood
when you see a lot of flags.
Yeah, that's not a Democratic thing.
It's like it's...
Democratic thing is more
like anarchy signs or they have different they have different flags it's like if you're super
liberal you see your own country's flag as offensive yeah which is weird it's weird it is
strange it is very strange they don't have flags yeah but i mean i i would stop and think like that
is a strange assessment to make. Yeah.
You know?
I have a conspiracy theory about it.
I really do.
I think there's a lot more subterfuge and like intelligence going on in universities dating back to like the Cold War that we're just kind of unaware of.
And I think in a lot of ways sometimes the professors are even unaware of it because
it comes from like, oh, we did this research and, you know, this is what your system does.
Somebody is.
Yeah, it's like you have people acting on the behalf of adversarial nations, adversarial systems to kind of sow chaos.
And I think it happens at the college level.
And I think it dates back to the Cold War.
Why wouldn't it?
We did it.
You know, information war, propaganda.
It's a big part of it.
We do it to other countries.
Hey, man, look at McDonald's.
You know, we do it.
So I'm sure they do it to us as well.
Yeah.
And sneak your ways.
That's how you beat the giant with your brain.
You don't beat the giant with force.
You can't beat us with force.
So the only way you can beat us is by getting in and sowing discord and rotting us with from within and we're
the laziest people oh just offer because of fucking food and we'll do it because of comfort
like when you're when your country does really well not to say that there aren't obviously people
struggling here or that there's isn't poverty here but as a whole, your country has it together, so to speak.
You just, like you ask most Americans
about anything internationally and they're like,
I don't know and I don't really care.
But you travel and you ask other people
and they're pretty well versed.
People know what's going on in the world
because once you're comfortable, you don't care.
You're spoiled.
Yeah, you're spoiled.
Take it all for granted.
We're in a unique position as comedians to be ambassadors for the fact that, like, everyone's just people, man.
Like, they're not the demons you think.
Like, you talk to people on the coast, and they're like, oh, those people, those Bible Belt.
You're like, dude, they're just good people.
Yeah.
If you lived there, you'd be walking around like that, too.
Yeah. You know? It's like, oh. I mean, other than Tunica, Mississippi, they're just like you good people yeah if you live there you'd be walking around like that too yeah you know it's like i mean other than tunica mississippi it's just they're just people yeah it's a few places where you're like get me the fuck out of here yeah yeah but it's like they
have they don't have they nobody puts themselves in somebody else's shoes anymore right like that's
how you get wisdom is by empathetically going what would it like to be that you know you go
on the coast and you're like yeah no guns ban the guns you're like dude i guarantee you if you move to the country yeah
the first thing you want to get it we're gonna want to get is a gun there's fucking bears out
there there's coyotes you got chickens or whatever and if someone breaks in your house like right no
no it takes 20 minutes for the state cops to get there no guns where you live yeah where you live
right yeah because it's like everyone pulled out the fucking if you were on the train in the morning in new york city and someone pushed another person and
everyone pulled out it would fucking end like a quentin tarantino movie yeah yeah yeah you can't
you can't but yeah if you live out in the country yeah you want one first thing i did was buy a gun
one out there really yeah first thing i did i got a rifle and it's like you feel the need for it. It's like you go, oh, yeah, I got to have one of those things.
I have a family.
I got a dog.
Yeah.
Because I live out in the country.
So there's like bears.
There's, you know, there's predators out there.
And you also like you show it to your wife every now and then.
Let her know.
Yeah.
I'm the one who knows how to use this thing.
Don't be stupid.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Why don't we take it down to a five?
Yeah.
You're at a 10?
Yeah.
And then you just hold it.
You just hold it.
Yeah.
Yeah, these magazines refill.
Yeah, they refill.
Yeah.
Yeah, I intentionally keep her in the dark on how to use it.
Of course.
Yeah, she's like, how do you use this thing?
Yeah, well, you put the barrel in your mouth.
You're holding it right.
You got it.
And then... There you go.
Stick your tongue in there.
Are you sure I'm supposed to hold it like this?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's how it works.
It shoots out the other side.
You get the strength from your teeth.
Bite hard.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Keeps. Bite hard. Yeah.
Keeps her in check.
Yeah.
She needs it.
Yeah, we got to get the balance of power back somehow, you know?
Yeah.
He's broads, man.
Yeah.
Well, you got sons.
I got a daughter now.
So I'm kind of like, I'm into me too a little bit.
Yeah.
I want my daughter to know it's her power.
She can use it whenever she wants.
Sure.
You know what I mean yeah yeah and
also you go with boys you're just like christina's like how do we not make them rapists like that
and i'm like well i remember the talk my dad gave me uh yeah
what
they just they're not yeah yeah yeah yeah you just try to raise gotta like
hug them a few times yeah yeah sweet they're lovely yeah yeah stop you know don't neglect
them put food on the table and they don't leave them in the car in the summer yeah you go shopping
it'll be fine she's like are we not giving them enough eggs in the morning like what we we gotta
get the not turn them into not rapist parroting guide yeah i'm like i don't think it takes much
i agree with you on that one yeah i know i don't mean to contribute to mansplain but i think no no
i think you you kids will not be rapists yeah i think... Cut to this being a part of a documentary.
Tom Segura's kids, the brother rapists,
tore up Texas.
This would just be part of the documentary.
Then they used the still of me.
Tom Segura sits with unknown comedian.
I don't know who it is.
We gave him cereal and shit,
but my wife
she was right
we weren't doing something
we weren't doing something right
I watched porn with him
I don't know
I did everything I could
I tried to stop it
yeah
Jesus Christ
the kids are like
it's not his fault
how old is your daughter?
she's a year and a half
oh that's a cute
that's super cute
yeah
it's a
it's a
it's a fun age
it's
I can't believe i
waited so long to have them how old are your kids uh six and the three-year-old before next month
six will be seven in december so six and three currently yeah nice that was a real parent i know
i don't know i was just no i i know what you did there yeah when parents talk we stretch out the
convo about our kids a little bit yeah because you could have just said six, but you told me exactly.
Like, in a month, she'll be.
And when you're talking to parents, I'll go, oh, mine's a year and a half.
What was she like at that point?
Yeah, yeah.
We start talking about all that shit that people make fun of us,
but that's really the good stuff.
That is the good stuff.
Yeah, because it's funny.
I already, you know, I can still, like, picture the year and a half time.
It's like now it's past, you know, I can still like picture the year and a half time. It's like now it's past,
you know?
Cause that shit really does go special.
Like,
and also,
especially cause I'm touring so much.
Yeah.
Like some of these trips,
I come home and I'm like,
the fuck?
Like you,
you're way taller.
Like they just,
they really do change quickly.
And like all of a sudden,
you know,
cause language is probably just starting for you.
Right.
Like it's like,
she's starting to talk and then it'll be like,
yeah,
it's going to fuck it.
I couldn't deal with that dude.
I got a special needs brother too.
Like if that happened again,
I'd be like,
really?
Yeah.
I might just leave,
you know,
let's go look at the coyotes.
This is where,
whoops.
I didn't know you're supposed to take them in there.
Long Days is every Saturday on YouTube.
And Mom Love is Giannis Papa's new special.
You can see it on YouTube.
It's a good promo.
It's a great promo, yeah.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, yeah.
No, it's funny because you'll see that she'll
start saying some things and it's gonna be the cutest and like you know her language will be
a certain level for a while and then you'll just like especially if you're if you are touring
you'll get home from a trip and you'll hear like some complete sentence where you'll be like what
the fuck and it's just like it just happens
yeah it's all sudden yeah oh it has already oh yeah it's happening to me already going away
facetime at least now there's facetime yeah so every day i get to see her which is good but yeah
the the new word and sentence thing i'm missing and i always wonder like you know like our kids
will they be mad at us like you weren't there dad there, Dad. But then you'll be able to be like, yeah, but here's a boat.
Your son's going to be like,
we forgive you.
You're like, you didn't rape anybody, did you?
And they're like, we didn't.
He's like, here's another boat.
And your wife's like,
yes, I didn't rape.
You didn't rape.
Then they just hold that over your head.
You want me to rape?
You want me to rape?
You're like, okay, here's another boat.
No more raping.
No more raping.
Yeah, you just got to keep
giving these kids
wait what about in college i'm like in college you can a little bit you can try it out but
uh jesus christ we went off the rails a little bit yeah that was good it was fun we're joking
it was all jokes we don't advocate any of that stuff i don't let us be the time of the show now
where we let you know
these were said in jest.
This is jest.
Yeah.
We are professional jesters.
They should have a warning now
like Jackass has.
Do not take anything seriously.
Because that's what you have to do
for this fucking stupid nation.
Yeah, you do.
Of people who are like fucking morons.
Yeah.
The only thing that like
I really said that I meant
is like how gross
like the fat models are and uh
that i wasn't joking at bert's liver damage yeah yeah that's it yeah that's stuff i mean um
but whatever yeah the rest of it totally joking did you Did you see that Jordan Peterson thing?
We were talking about the, not him,
we were talking about the SI cover.
She's hot, though.
She's pretty face.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, you know, she'll go to the fucking barbecue with you.
She won't just eat salad is what you're saying.
She's going to be like, you try the brisket.
I got it. Yeah, like the face is gorgeous i agree yeah anyway he what did he said he was quitting well yeah he was he's called her he goes like not pretty he goes no she's not she's not pretty and you know no amount of
authoritative
coercion will tell me
and then like
even his own fans
were like Jordan
I usually
Dr. Peterson
I cleaned my room
and did all that stuff
but I disagree on this one
I'll fuck her
basically
he got really dragged
and so he was like
I'm leaving Twitter
but then he didn't
this is what I have to say
to the professors
did they have to put her
in this suit though
you mean you could have
found a better one
yeah
for that body type
I mean
yeah I mean
she looks good to me
I mean I would
I just feel like
if you're
if you're built like
there are different body types
and there's certain things
that are flattering
to certain body types
right know your area
I just feel like
they could have given her
a suit that is would have like flattered her figure more yeah whatever it's also
it's fine so he said so you're saying you should look better just completely covered up and like
you want to see your liquor like you're like you know if they would have just given her one of those what are those girls in afghanistan where yeah yeah she's hot yeah her face is stunning yeah she's beautiful yeah
her name is yumi yeah i don't know who she is yeah you mean new you mean new but i had no idea
who she was until this surprise she's not a doctor with that name yeah you mean you
i'm sure her parents are disappointed
this is like pornography for them oh yeah they can't why are you whore on magazine yeah
so wait peterson said he was leaving social media he seems leaving just because he was like
he was getting dropped okay he was getting like uh pylon it was like a pylon where people were like reap tweeting him and hateful stuff and uh part
he was like i'm just leaving it's a hateful place twitter and then you just want to go hey you
wanted to get in this arena man yeah like you're not leaving yeah you first of all you're not
leaving second of all like you want to make content on the internet? Yeah.
Well, this is what it's like, buddy. It's not always roses. It's not always like,
thank you, Dr. Peterson, for telling me to get my life together. Once in a while, it's like,
fuck you, Whitey. So you got to be able to deal with those too.
You really do. You have to be able to deal with it. And that's actually the argument I made about
fat models, is that we have to be able to deal with the fact that we can share a thought
an opinion a joke and people can be like you suck not funny shut up you gotta take it and if you're
a model you this whole idea is that no one should criticize uh talk about people's bodies i'm like
that's the gig though your gig is the body your gig is beauty so if you sign up to have your picture taken you should be able to
tolerate a little bit of stuff that's not praise this whole idea that everyone has to go like you
and everyone is beautiful and we're all like no that's not really true it's another like you know
extension of this current academia world of like we're all everything's flowers all the time it's like no you can say
she's built like the fucking long snapper for the jets and she'll fall back yeah and like that
should be allowed because you put your fucking body out there right and you know what and so
and the fun the idea too is like some people go like what about you and your body look you can
criticize mine totally but also i didn't sign up for the body thing.
I signed up for the talky thing.
So, you know, if you wanna, I'm fair game.
People have shit on me in every way
and like I'm used to it now.
But like this whole thing where every model
should be celebrated, it's nonsense.
It's nonsense.
What you just said is just like beyond reproach.
It's just like, that's exactly correct.
I mean, that's like, there's no argument.
You're going like, yeah, you're right. We're allowed to.
Yeah.
You're allowed to.
Not to plug the special, but it's true.
My last joke, mom love, that's what it's about.
It's saying like this country, we're out of balance.
Like there's too much mom love.
Yeah.
Meaning too much empathy.
Oh, you're the greatest.
You can be anything you want.
Yeah.
And the joke's all about like, you need a dad to be like, this is who you are.
Your brother's the smart one yeah okay i don't want you going out there hilarious
thinking you can be anything because you're gonna end up with a heroin problem because your mom set
your standards too high your mom's downstairs yeah let me talk to you let me tell you the truth
let me tell you the truth that is so you're not good at math yeah you'll never be a model you're
not an athlete yeah you know but look You know. But look at your hands.
Yeah, look at your hands.
You got good hands.
They're rough.
Yeah.
Just guys love conditionally.
Traditionally, we live conditionally.
Yeah.
You do better, we love you more.
That type of-
Nobody loves their kid who doesn't do well in the game.
No, no, no.
Yeah, you're like, he could have done better.
Mom's like, you were great.
Yeah.
Which is why-
It doesn't matter if you scored or not.
Your dad's like, it does matter, you why it doesn't matter if you scored or not your dad's like it does matter you fucking loser it does matter yeah and it's why you don't believe um
you know like you you're you look you look so handsome like from your mom you're like i don't
you it doesn't register right i know what this is right you look no i want to it's object it's got
to be like somebody who's like oh this person says person says I look good in this? Okay. I trust it.
Not my fucking mom.
Yeah.
You need to see your dad's reaction because your mom will be like, shouldn't he model?
Your dad will go, bah!
They'll start laughing.
You're like, it's not true.
Yeah.
My dad's reaction is telling me it's not true.
Yeah.
We need that dad love in there, that kind of masculine, tough, real, because that's
the way the world's going to love you.
Right.
The world's like that.
Stop giving these people illusions. The world will love you because you earned it yes and moms will love you
just by who you are no matter what yeah you know yeah it's very true we're out of balance that's
what's happening that that's what the that's why i named the special that because i feel like that's
the underneath the problem we're having now is essentially that you can make a case that the
real message is you don't need a mother you just don't need ladies they're talking too much dads are more
important yeah i mean come on are we how much are we supposed to pretend like the wmba matters it
doesn't i saw that parade it just looked like people were going to work I mean, if a WNBA team wins a title, does it really make a sound?
Well, I love when they show highlights from a WNBA game,
and you're like, is this a clinic on passing?
Is this like an instructional video of this is how the game is to be played?
This is how you play the game if you have no
athletic talent i love women's sports they're doing great but there is a difference yeah there's
just it's always will be yeah it's called excitement that's the that's the difference
a little more power a little more speed a little more uh yeah excitement yeah yeah yeah you like
exciting things yeah turn on men's sports you like seeing you like seeing things at the highest level
these are all jokes we were joking the whole time joking these are all jokes don't take it
women can be funny too if they're gay yeah gay women super fat women yeah ugly women the more
like men they are the closer they can get to being funny yeah
yeah
women missing a limb
hilarious
hilarious
alright we're gonna
wrap it up
Giannis thank you
very much for coming
this was a lot of fun
dude thank you
for having me
appreciate it
Long Days is
Saturday's
Giannis' weekly podcast
and the new
special you can watch
it on YouTube
right now
it's called
Mom Love
just type it in the search
engine and watch it and tell your friends and share it with your friends. See ya. Here's what we call Two Bears, One Cave.
No scripts, a bit of booze, amateur fratology.
Dirty jokes, raunchy humor, no apologies.
Here's what we call Two Bears, One Cave.