99% Invisible - Backfired: The Vaping Wars

Episode Date: June 25, 2024

When two Stanford graduate students set out to create a new kind of cigarette that wouldn’t kill them, they didn’t foresee all the obstacles that lay ahead—or the powerful forces their invention... would unleash. Nearly 10 years after the launch of the JUUL, Backfired: The Vaping Wars asks: Could e-cigarettes have been the solution to one of the world’s most pressing public health problems—or was this technology doomed to introduce a whole new generation to nicotine, and end up perpetuating an intractable addiction?Backfired is the latest podcast from Prologue Projects, the award-winning team behind Slow Burn, Fiasco, and Think Twice: Michael Jackson. Backfired is a show about the business of unintended consequences—what happens when solving one problem inadvertently leads to a host of new ones?In this tale of opportunity, addiction, and good intentions gone awry, hosts Leon Neyfakh and Arielle Pardes offer a definitive account of Juul Labs’ rise and fall, as well as the ubiquitous illegal vape market that sprouted up in its wake. Through dozens of original interviews, they gain access to the key players who got swept up—sometimes unwittingly—in the firestorm that reshaped the culture of nicotine.Backfired: The Vaping Wars

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is 99% Invisible. I'm Roman Mars. For decades, people have been trying to figure out how to create a cigarette without many of the downsides. You know, the things that make smoking the biggest cause of preventable death in America. The tar, the carcinogens, and all that stuff. Cigarette companies tried to create quote-unquote safe combustion-free smoking devices as far back as the 1980s. They were all huge flops. Then in the 2000s, e-cigarettes first hit the market. These early models looked almost like cigarettes, but they gave themselves away in subtle ways.
Starting point is 00:00:33 If you looked really closely, you could see that they were made of plastic or metal, and they had a little glowing light on the tip, meant to resemble the cherry at the end of a lit cigarette. Or you might remember the big clunky vaporizers that resembled walkie-talkies and required users to tinker with battery coils and pour so-called e-liquid into them by hand. None of these ended up breaking into the mainstream. Until, in 2015, a company called Jewel Labs
Starting point is 00:01:00 rolled out a new nicotine vape that caught fire, both with adult smokers who used them to kick their old-fashioned smoking habit and with young people, children who just thought they were cool. The jewel became a phenomenon, not strictly speaking as a smoking cessation device, but as an entirely new habit, jeweling.
Starting point is 00:01:20 In addition to limiting some of the harm of smoking, it seemed to threaten an entire generation with nicotine addiction. The new podcast Backfired, The Vaping Wars dives into the stories behind the jewel's success and its failures. Listening to the show, it's clear that what began as an arguably promising innovation in harm reduction inspired a backlash that in turn opened the door to a veritable Wild West of vaping products. Today we're going to present you with the first episode in which hosts Leon Neffock and
Starting point is 00:01:50 Ariel Pardes track how Joule's founders figured out that the right combination of chemistry and design could unlock their product's potential and enhance its addictive qualities. It's really fascinating stuff. Check it out. One afternoon last fall, I sent a Slack message to Ariel Pardes, my co-host on this podcast. I needed to tell her something. I feel nervous. to tell her something. I feel nervous. Because every time a conversation starts with, I need to tell you something. It's not good.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Generally not good, but this one could be good. I don't know. I'm gonna remain optimistic. Ariel and I had spent months reporting on vaping, trying to figure out how it had gone from a niche hobby to a billion-dollar industry in the space of just a decade. And the entire time we were doing this, I was also trying to quit vaping myself and telling Ariel about it. Sometimes. Yesterday when we were recording, we can probably play this clip because I'm pretty sure we
Starting point is 00:03:03 were rowing. Oh, no. At one point, you were like... Leon, was that a vape? No. That did really sound like a vape. I don't vape anymore. What was that sound? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Yeah, I was on my phone for a second. Don't lie to us, Leon. I'm not lying. I'm not on tape. I'm not lying. The phone makes a weird sound sometimes. I just flatly lied being like, it's not, and we moved on, but it was a vape. Why did you lie? Because I really thought it was going to be my own little secret until I threw it away later in the day. And it was, if literally only I knew, it was gonna be my own little secret until I threw it away later in the day. And if it was, if literally only I knew,
Starting point is 00:03:48 it would be like it never happened. That's why I lied. But it's literally on tape. We all knew it happened and now there's concrete proof of it. Damn. Damn. Well, thank you for your delayed honesty and-
Starting point is 00:04:11 Sorry, I lied to you. I forgive you. A few years ago, there was really only one vaping product that I and everyone else I knew was using. The Juul. In fact, that's what I thought we'd be making this podcast about. Juul. But once we dug into it, we discovered there are now literally thousands of vape brands
Starting point is 00:04:36 on the market in flavors like luscious lemon and watermelon ice and cheesecake. You know the Cambrian explosion that's responsible for all the world's biodiversity? That's kind of where we're at with nicotine vapes right now. And I unfortunately have sampled a lot of them. I've tried the Airbar, I've tried Elf bars, I've tried Esco bars, I've tried Miley's, and I like them. I hate how much I like them and I hate how hard it is for me to stop using them. I bought one this morning.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Why did you buy an air bar this morning? Because my air bar died last night. You know that's not what I meant. Watching Leon grapple with his addiction was pretty eye-opening for me. I didn't grow up around anyone who smoked cigarettes, and as an adult in the Bay Area, I didn't know many people who vaped either.
Starting point is 00:05:37 In fact, in 2019, I voted to ban the sale of nicotine vapes in San Francisco. They just seemed obviously bad. So when we started working on this podcast, I wondered if our reporting would change my mind. My feelings about vaping were complicated. When I was growing up, both of my parents smoked cigarettes and I picked up the habit when I got to college.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Then during my senior year, my dad died of lung cancer. He was just 47 years old. And yet, even after that, I had a really hard time quitting. I tried nicotine patches and gum and even hypnosis, and nothing ever stuck until I discovered the jewel. And honestly, it was a godsend. If I had a Juul in my pocket, I just didn't smoke cigarettes or even think about them. But at the same time, because I Juuled all day, including inside at my desk, I became
Starting point is 00:06:37 way more addicted to nicotine than I ever was as a smoker. All of this is why, when we first started our reporting, we weren't sure how to feel about Juul and all of the vape companies that have come since. Were they saving people's lives? Or profiting off of their weaknesses? It's safe to say we've both been shocked by what we've learned as we've spent the past year trying to get to the bottom of who is winning and who is losing what we've come to think of as the vaping wars.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Because it's not just one war. There's the war for dominance in the market. Send the logo and the flavor you want and these Chinese manufacturers will send you tens of thousands of them. Jewel is like not cool anymore. It's the puff bar. Elf Bar and Esco Bar have not received FDA authorization. Thousands of unauthorized vapes are pouring into the United States from China.
Starting point is 00:07:33 It's almost like we just can't stop this. We are at the cusp of something that could be a catastrophe. And there's also a war between two bitterly opposed camps. One focused on preventing a new generation from getting addicted to nicotine. They came into a kids' school. This is predatory behavior. And the other focused on the potential of vapes to save millions of lives. First puff, I knew that I was going to quit smoking.
Starting point is 00:08:07 But before all that, there was first Jules War on Big Tobacco, which began at Stanford University before the first vape had even hit the market. That's where we're going to begin our story. Two decades ago, when two graduate students in a design program came up with what seemed like a simple solution to the problem of cigarettes. I remember being like, this is it. This is the dream. I'm Arielle Pardes.
Starting point is 00:08:36 I've been a reporter covering Silicon Valley for publications like Wired and The Information for the last eight years. And I'm Leon Neyfok, host of the podcast, Fiasco and the co-creator of Slow Burn. From Audible originals and prologue projects, this is Backfired, a podcast about the business of unintended consequences. Episode 1, Smoking Gun. In January of 2015, a 30-something entrepreneur named James Monsies sat down for an interview
Starting point is 00:09:17 with a journalist. It was just a few months before the jewel would be released. I had only started this in grad school and at Stanford. And we didn't really have, like, a hard-set goal on starting a company out of it. The past decade had been a struggle, but Monsi's felt like the company he had co-founded with his classmate Adam Bowen
Starting point is 00:09:37 was finally on the cusp of revolutionizing the world of nicotine. So he was ready to tell their origin story. So you wanted to start at the beginning? I want to start at the beginning. Okay. That's easy. If I can remember it now. It's been so long. I'm just kidding. It's permanently ingrained in my mind.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Bowen and Monsies had met over a decade earlier, in 2003, when they were both enrolled in a master's program at Stanford. The program was a mix of art, mechanical engineering, and industrial design. in 2003 when they were both enrolled in a master's program at Stanford. The program was a mix of art, mechanical engineering, and industrial design. Traditionally, 90% or so of the people that came out of that program would start companies. People who showed up in this program weren't just in grad school to be in grad school. They were on a mission. This is Liz Gerber. She attended the program around the same time as Bowen and Monsey's. People were talking about the power of technology, the potential of connecting people,
Starting point is 00:10:33 the discussion about unintended consequences in the product design world was minimal. Just to place you in this moment in time, 2003 was the year MySpace debuted. Apple introduced the iTunes Music Store, and WordPress helped kick off the blogging era. We were doing things in a different way at that time. Anything felt possible, and it wasn't commercially driven. It was really, let's envision the future in which we want to live. As she hung around Stanford's campus, Gerber became friendly with Bowen and Monsey's. She watched as the two started to tinker with various product
Starting point is 00:11:10 ideas in the school's legendary design lab. Ideas like furniture that could be molded into different shapes, as well as high tech business cards that would transmit your information with a single tap. But Gerber remembers that it wasn't just their work that made Bowen and Monsey's stand out. Everybody knew each other, but the smokers definitely knew each other.
Starting point is 00:11:29 There were about four students who regularly smoked. By 2003, smoking rates among young people were in freefall. I remember being very much in the minority in college when I would smoke outside of our dorm. Bowen and Monsey's experienced much the same thing. I remember I once took them to task for smoking right outside the door.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Because I was like, hey guys, like, this is the way I get in. This is the way everybody has to get in. Like, fine smoke, but smoke somewhere away from where everybody has to, you know, come in and out of the door. Monsey's in particular felt shame over his smoking. His grandfather, a smoker, had died from lung cancer. And growing up, Monsey's mom taught him to hate cigarettes.
Starting point is 00:12:11 And yet, he picked up the habit anyway. Then, one day, he was having a cigarette with Bowen outside the design lab, and a light bulb went off. We just kind of looked at each other and thought, you know, this would be a really interesting space to look at. And then the safety and shelter of academia, right, why not look at something that's a huge opportunity and a huge sort of social problem.
Starting point is 00:12:39 What they realized was that there were a lot of smokers who wanted to quit, and no one had come up with a truly effective way to help them do it. Bowen and Monsey's decided this was the problem they wanted to focus on in their master's thesis. So they got to work researching their idea. That was when they discovered a number of earlier attempts by big tobacco companies to create a safer cigarette. Among them was the Premier, which R.J. Reynolds released in 1988. Premier is the premier of a cigarette
Starting point is 00:13:10 which heats tobacco rather than burns it, thus eliminating most of the smoke, much of the odor, and all of the ash. Under the code name Project Spa, R.J. Reynolds spent years and hundreds of millions of dollars developing the device. The big innovation behind it was that it heated tobacco instead of burning it, thereby removing the most dangerous part of smoking, the combustion that creates tar.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Still, Reynolds was careful not to say that the Premier was safer, just that it was cleaner. We substantially reduced many of the controversial compounds found in the smoke of tobacco burning cigarettes, virtually eliminate side stream smoke, no ash. There is a cleaner taste. It is a different taste. But that different taste wasn't a hit with early users. It doesn't taste like you're smoking tobacco. What does it taste like?
Starting point is 00:13:59 Like you're smoking plastic. Reynolds gave up on the premiere after a short test period. But as Bowen and Monsi's found out, that was not the end of Big Tobacco's efforts to create a safer cigarette. In 1998, Philip Morris released the Accord. Accord is really a smoking system. It includes what would appear to be a traditional cigarette that
Starting point is 00:14:20 is inserted into a special lighter. The lighter has sensors in it and when you take a puff it burns the tobacco in the cigarette. Like the Premier, the Accord was designed to vaporize tobacco leaves by gently heating them, which was supposed to prevent users from inhaling deadly chemicals. But also like the Premier, the Accord tasted bad and failed to take off with customers. The timing was also not great. As it happened, the accord was released just as Philip Morris, along with several other
Starting point is 00:14:52 big tobacco companies, agreed to pay billions of dollars in a court ordered settlement. This settlement is clearly an important step in the right direction for our country. It reflects the first time tobacco companies will be held financially accountable for the damage their product does to our nation's health, and the long struggle to protect our children from tobacco. As part of the settlement, tobacco companies were forced to make millions of internal documents public, including some that showed they had lied about the health risks of smoking. This database was released just two years before Bowen and Monsey's had their revelation
Starting point is 00:15:31 outside the Stanford Design Lab. In fact, it's where they found out about all the early failed attempts at safer cigarettes. Now, they could use Big Tobacco's research to beat them at their own game. We got so much information that you wouldn't be able to get in most industries. Yeah. And we were able to catch up to a huge, huge industry in no time. Soon, Bowen and Monsey's started working on a prototype. The key innovation they were keen to tinker with was this idea that if
Starting point is 00:16:05 you heat tobacco leaves at a lower temperature instead of burning them, you can still get nicotine but without the deadly tar that leads to lung cancer. The question was how to design a device that could do that in a way that was portable, satisfying for smokers, and, hopefully, cool to look at. It turned out to be a much bigger challenge than Bowen and Monsey's had anticipated. By June of 2005, Bowen and Monsey's were ready to present their thesis idea to their classmates. It would, hopefully, be the first step toward securing potential funding and turning their product into something more than just a good idea.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Monsey's introduced the device, which they were now calling Plume, the rational future of smoking. So the name was Salus, and it's now Plume, at least temporarily. Monsey's quickly ran through what he and Bowen had discovered about Big Tobacco's attempts to make a less deadly cigarette and explained why he thought all of them were pretty lame. Really, there's no design innovation going on
Starting point is 00:17:15 in smoking whatsoever, because Big Tobacco's really interested in not shooting themselves in their own foot. They sell cigarettes, and that's very much what they do. Then it was Bowen's turn to speak. He made the case for why the plume would be different. So our goal was to basically create a whole new experience for people that retains the positive aspects of smoking, like the ritual and everything, but makes it as healthy
Starting point is 00:17:42 and socially acceptable as possible. Healthy and socially acceptable as possible. Healthy and socially acceptable. The plume wouldn't be smelly like a cigarette, nor would it raise the ire of classmates like Liz Gerber. Instead, it would be safe, and maybe even cool. We feel that we could take tobacco back to being a laundry good and not so much a sort of drug delivery device that the cigarettes have become.
Starting point is 00:18:05 The plume looked nothing like existing tobacco products. It was sleek. It had a cartridge system that Bowen compared to the Nespresso. And it came in a variety of flavors. When the presentation was over, the room lit up with applause. They had some beautiful drawings. I remember the look of it being very attractive. To Liz Gerber, the plume didn't just look good. There was almost something romantic about it. I also thought the name plume sounded really beautiful. It made me think of like the 1920s flappers with the long cigarettes and like the wavy smoke coming out and it kind of had this elegant association.
Starting point is 00:18:59 I remember also thinking about unintended consequences, what if in addition to helping people quit and reducing secondhand smoke, it also makes smoking sexier? After graduating, Bowen and Monsies worked on the plume from a small room in Bowen's house. Their first challenge was to build the device, but in order to do that, they needed money. The problem was, a lot of big venture capital funds were prohibited from investing in the
Starting point is 00:19:29 vice space, which included drugs, alcohol, and even supposedly safe cigarettes. So after getting a few rejections, Bowen and Monsey sent a plea to a Stanford email list. Eventually, a few angel investors agreed to take a chance on the company. By the spring of 2007, Plume raised nearly half a million dollars. And finally, the company was ready to make its first hire. My name is Kurt Sonderager, and I was the first employee at Plume, which went on to become Jewel. In 2007, Kurt Sonderager was a 41-year-old marketing director at Red Bull. He was the kind of person who religiously attended Burning Man and spent his vacations surfing in Bali.
Starting point is 00:20:17 He was also a smoker. I was a long-time smoker, heavily conflicted. I was eating well, exercising a lot, but it was the monkey I couldn't get off my back. One day, Sonderrager received a cryptic LinkedIn message about a new company in need of a marketing director. Bowen and Monsies invited Sonderrager to meet them at a posh hotel in San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:20:41 I went to sit down, and there are these two kind of slightly disheveled, you know, graduate student looking guys. And you know, we shook hands, and I want to take things out of my pocket as we do. You know, one of the things when I put it on the table, kind of shockingly, I noticed it was a pack of cigarettes. I was very ashamed of smoking, and it's not something I was proud of. It's certainly not in our first interview with a company I knew nothing about.
Starting point is 00:21:07 And Adam and James kind of looked at each other and smiled slightly. As the meeting went on, Sonderager realized why Bowen and Monsey's were pleased to find out he was a smoker. They told him about plume and described how vaporization worked. One of the things they made very clear was they didn't want it to look like a cigarette. They wanted it to be its own thing that they weren't trying to replicate
Starting point is 00:21:33 the cigarette paradigm. They were gonna change that paradigm. The plume was still just a prototype, but Sonderager totally bought into the vision. We had nicorette gum, we have patches, we have all kinds of tools that people could use to stop smoking, but it wasn't working. So clearly there's something to the ritual of smoking
Starting point is 00:21:52 that smokers really can't let go of, and I bought into that 100%, I'm one of them. Sonderager started at Plume in September of 2007. He likes to tell a story about his first day, when he showed up to find the office had no desks, so he ran out to Home Depot to buy some supplies to make some. And yet, Bowen and Monsies told Sonderager they were planning to launch Plume in just a few months. That was not easy.
Starting point is 00:22:21 There was certainly a lot to do, but as a marketing person and not as an engineer, I couldn't really jump in with them on a lot of the things. The only thing I could kind of help out with, other than branding and website and social media and all that stuff, was the flavor development. The plume used a butane flame to heat a tiny metal cup, kind of like an espresso pod, filled with tobacco leaves and mixed with commercial food flavoring. The heat produced a vapor, which would then be inhaled through a mouthpiece.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Overall, it resembled a large chunky pen. Sonder Eger said he always thought about it as a portable hookah. Kind of a hookah in your pocket. So there were these little pods that had tobacco in them and we didn't wanna just vape the straight tobacco. It's a little bit boring. It doesn't have that much flavor. So following the hookah model, we started with adding different flavors
Starting point is 00:23:15 and mixing it with the tobacco before filling these little pods. Bowen and Monsey's had always imagined the plume as a flavored product. Bowen in, was often experimenting by combining tobacco leaves with various flavors in big mixing bowls. Some early flavors included cinnamon and butter.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Bowen would leave pods on Sonderager's desk for him to sample, and eventually they settled on six flavors. Peach. The peach was called orchard. Cafe noir. Gold, which is like a more traditional tobacco flavor. Rocket, which was like a pretty strong flavor.
Starting point is 00:23:55 And the two herbal flavors were blue tea and kick-ass mint. As fun as it was to try out flavors, getting the plume ready for market was taking way longer than the founders and Sonderager had hoped. All of a sudden, it was 2009. The original launch date had come and gone, and they were still testing the plume to mixed reviews. At one point, Sonderager lent a plume to a friend to take to Burning Man. Afterwards, the friend reported that, quote, the harsh Playa conditions did not mix well with plumbing.
Starting point is 00:24:32 There are too many working pieces and too many steps in the plumbing process. Sonderger's friend said that by comparison, Siggy's are simple. We pushed ahead anyway because we needed to get something to market. Investors were getting a little bit antsy and we needed to show some results. And at the same time, they knew that they would fail small, fail early, and keep iterating on the design. Finally, in late 2009, so five years after Bowen and Monsi's came up with the idea, they soft launched the plume.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Sonder Eger put an image on their website of the black Model 1 with the words, small, dark, and handsome. He also posted on a few message boards that the plume was hitting the market soon. Hundreds of pre-orders came rolling in. A camera crew from a news website paid a visit to their office, and Monsey's demonstrated the model one for the reporter. So I'm pluming this device because I'm not smoking. So then when you inhale you get this vapor. But it's not smoke, it's just vapor. Monsey's went on to compare the process to steeping tea.
Starting point is 00:25:40 When you put a tea bag into hot water, you're extracting the aroma, you're extracting the caffeine. So we've found a new way to make tea and have a very different experience that's more suited to people who are smokers. So you get the nicotine, you get the flavor, but you don't actually burn the tobacco. The reporter points out that Bowen and Monsey's are steering clear of claiming that the plume is safer than a regular cigarette. Instead, Bowen used a familiar word. Cleaner. We believe that it is a cleaner ritual and
Starting point is 00:26:16 alleviates a lot of the social and environmental concerns otherwise ascribed to smoking. And Monsey's finished by further distancing the product from cigarettes. What we've tried to do is create a new paradigm, something that doesn't look like a cigarette, doesn't feel or taste like a cigarette. It's different. The media interest suggested there was some momentum,
Starting point is 00:26:38 but not enough. Like its big tobacco predecessors, the Plume Model 1 was a flop. For one thing, it wasn't satisfying as a nicotine delivery system. Sonderager would often plume all morning and then go downstairs and have a cigarette. But also, often the device just didn't work. Sonderager had a hard time communicating that to the founders. He remembered one instance in particular when Bowen just wasn't accepting the flaws he
Starting point is 00:27:11 was telling him about. I said, look, Adam, just come with me. Let's make the rounds and let's see how this goes. And we went to like five head shops that day. And I remember one of the shops in particular, we went in there cold and presented the device to the guy. I just put it down on the table, I explained how it worked and the guy, everything that could have gone wrong did wrong.
Starting point is 00:27:33 He couldn't get the butane in it. When he went to start it, he shocked his finger. He used it for a little bit, the mouthpiece fell off and he broke his lip. And I remember seeing Adam's face just like he knew that these were problems, but when he saw it like in five minutes, how all the major flaws came to light with one user in one interaction, I think that was the beginning of the end of,
Starting point is 00:27:57 okay, we need to recalibrate, go back to the drawing board, fix this thing. It's not ready for prime time. Something had to change, but it wasn't obvious what should be fixed first out of the plume's many, many problems. You're listening to Backfired on 99% Invisible, more after this.
Starting point is 00:28:25 According to emails we've seen from December of 2010, tensions started to emerge between Bowen and Monsey's. Bowen felt the company's number one goal should be pursuing deep lung nicotine delivery. The thing that, as he put it in one email, literally keeps smokers coming back for more. Monsey's worried that would essentially mean they were trying to make their device
Starting point is 00:28:46 as addictive as possible. He replied, if deep lung makes the product more enjoyable, then great. If the purpose is to keep people coming back for more, then I'm not sure I'm on board. Mansi's wanted people to plume because they enjoyed pluming, not because they were chemically addicted to it.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Eventually, they settled on a compromise. They would focus on a new version of the plume that solved what Moncies euphemistically called its user interaction issues, while also researching improvements to nicotine delivery. But doing both of these things would require money. Money the company didn't have. In fact, early investors had seen the failure of the Plume Model 1 and assumed that Bowen and Monsey's would give up, that the future of smoking had been just another promising idea from Silicon Valley that ended up amounting to nothing much. But Bowen and Monsey's weren't ready to fold.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Instead, they agreed to accept millions of dollars in investment capital from a Japanese tobacco company. Exactly the type of company they had set out to disrupt and frankly destroy. To Kurt Sonderager, it initially seemed like a deal with the devil. I was a little conflicted about it, but I also realized that why Japan Tobacco was doing it,
Starting point is 00:30:05 because they weren't doing it to kill the technology as sometimes happens with tech companies, right? They buy a potential competitor and just kill it, wipe it out. They saw this also as the future. So if a big tobacco company in a smoking crazy country like Japan could come in and say, hey, this is the future of smoking.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Great, keep going, guys. Keep innovating until you get it right. Plus, for Sonder Eger, it helped that Japan tobacco was Japanese. It didn't feel as bad as Altria or Philip Morris. Do you know what I mean? It's Japan tobacco. It's all the way on the other side of the world.
Starting point is 00:30:43 With the investment in hand, the new plan was to have a revamped product on the market, hopefully within a year or so. But Sonder Eger didn't want to wait that long and decided to move on from the company. So I departed. And what happened was instead of fixing the plume right away, they actually came out with the Pax. The Pax was Bowen and Monsey's solution to their cash flow problem. Officially, it was a loose-leaf vaporizer.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Unofficially, it was a weed vape. It was funny because with the many investors that we talked to about this, quite often the first thing they would say, like under their breath, they would say, yeah, this is cool. Does it work for weed? You know? So when enough people ask you if it works for weed, you have to ask yourself, like, no, but we can make one that really works well for weed.
Starting point is 00:31:37 So I think that's what they did. Using their vaporization technology to help stoners wasn't exactly Bohn and Monsey's primary mission. But it was another compromise they were willing to make in order to keep the company afloat. And to their credit, they really didn't half-ass it. The Pax was born of a collaboration with Yves Behar, the Swiss designer best known for the SodaStream bottle and the Jawbone Bluetooth headset. It was like a two or three hundred dollar vaporizer and they sold hundreds of thousands of them. It was like the best selling vaporizer in the country for weed and it gave them what
Starting point is 00:32:15 they needed. Finally, Bowen and Monsey's had a best selling product. And with the new influx of cash, they continued to refine the Plume. They also hired more employees. All I remember is going into then, where the customer service representatives worked, which was out of a supply closet with some retrofitted bathroom. And I thought, this is it.
Starting point is 00:32:41 This is the dream. I was so pumped to be there. Lorenzo Castillo was still in college when he joined Plume to work part time as a customer service representative. It was exactly what he hoped for. The company was still small, but growing. It had a strong happy hour culture,
Starting point is 00:32:59 no rules against vaping in the office, and his team had a habit of dressing up in suits and ties on Fridays, since every other day people wore t-shirts and jeans. In other words, it was a lot of fun. We would wait for the leadership team to come back from lunch. And when they would, we would shoot foam darts at them. And this is one of the videos where we're just barraging them with foam darts as they walk in.
Starting point is 00:33:28 You can see James catch one and shoot it back at us. And that was kind of, he sat right next to us. That was like part of what enabled us to have that fun atmosphere, that he wasn't beyond having a little fun in situations like that. Castillo loved the packs, as did all of his friends. When it came to like Secret Santa for the couple years that I worked there, I would bring a Pax and that was always a big hit. I mean, in my mind, right, this is it.
Starting point is 00:33:55 This is the product, right? A discreet way to smoke pot where you don't have to burn anything. But he also understood that the device wasn't the company's main ambition. I always saw the Pax as a pleasant diversion from the mission that James and Adam had initially set out on. I think they really wanted to reinvent tobacco and how it was consumed, as opposed to creating a discrete way for people to vaporize pot. Even as sales of the packs took off, Bowen and Monsey's were still focused on improving the design of the next version of the plume, the Model 2.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Crucially, they switched from a butane heat source to a USB rechargeable battery. So no more unpleasant shocks. And I actually have one. I have a model too. I brought it in. You have one in your pocket right now? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's funny, like, it's, you know, you look on this and it's fairly discreet. Of course, it's dead as hell. But it's still got, this is probably my favorite thing. It's still got a rocket pod in it. And if you want, you can smell it and you can still smell the rocket pod if you twist it out. Wow. That was my favorite flavor, rocket. I don't even know how I would describe this flavor it doesn't smell like something that exists
Starting point is 00:35:12 in nature. Some people including myself say Christmas but yeah no I hear you I think it's got like a cinnamon hit to it it just you know how they say smell is like the biggest hit of nostalgia smelling that brings me back to those times. The Plume Model 2 was launched in 2013 with a swanky party in San Francisco. The company also co-sponsored a New York Fashion Week album release party for Robin Thicke. According to the New York Times, most attendees were a bit confused by the plume. A brand ambassador had to explain to users, they're very popular, very international.
Starting point is 00:35:58 They smell like cookies. Glitz and confusion aside, the hope was that, finally, the company could build on the success of the packs with an e-stigaret that actually worked. Anything Model 2 that came in was treated with white glove service. We were told to escalate that to our more senior customer service representatives and to really thoroughly work with those customers in terms of what's wrong, how can we help you. I think that really showed where the priorities were for that company at that time.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Bowen and Monsey's were eager to get feedback from customers about the new and improved version of their device. The problem was there weren't that many Model 2 customers to learn from. I remember we had an All Hands. And during that All Hands, an engineer who was, I'm not going to name names, but was known to be vocal, rose his hand and said, exactly how many Model 2s have been sold. I remember that being a palpably awkward moment where it was clear that it wasn't the hit that I think we wanted it to be as a company.
Starting point is 00:37:08 The Plume Model 2 had been an improvement on the Model 1, but it still had many of the same problems. The mouthpiece felt fragile and it had to be recharged every three or four uses. Crucially, it didn't solve the problem Bowen had now been highlighting for years. It still didn't deliver enough nicotine to satisfy smokers. Heating was a problem with the Model 2. There was some inconsistencies with the mixtures because it was still a leaf-based product with the pods. And I think that led to a less than desired user experience.
Starting point is 00:37:47 It was clear the entire way the Model 2 worked by vaporizing tobacco leaves just wasn't delivering a satisfying amount of nicotine. So Bowen and Monsey's went back to the tobacco documents they had first discovered while they were at Stanford. That was where they hit upon secret research from R.J. Reynolds into something called nicotine salts. The documents showed that in the 1980s, scientists at the company reported that combining pure nicotine with an acid would create a special kind of salt. This salt eliminated the unpleasant effects that came with increasing the concentration of nicotine.
Starting point is 00:38:30 But R.J. Reynolds had never commercialized this breakthrough. Apparently they were concerned that it would produce such a smooth cigarette that people wouldn't realize they were smoking way too much, and that they would just keep smoking until they accidentally overdosed on nicotine. This seemed like a really promising potential solution, but only if Bohen and Monsi's were willing to completely redesign how their nicotine vape worked. Instead of vaporizing tobacco leaves like the Model 2, a new device would need to mix
Starting point is 00:39:03 nicotine in a liquid that would then be heated as an aerosol. This would require expertise that went far beyond Bowen and Monsi's Stanford design credentials. So, they hired a chemist to help. Her name was Chen Weixing. They were a strong team with mechanical engineering background and product design, but they didn't have anybody with chemistry training.
Starting point is 00:39:27 And that's why they had this opening. Xing had a PhD in chemical engineering. She'd worked for big pharmaceutical companies on things like asthma inhalers and an inhalable migraine drug. Xing did not respond to our request to speak with her. So what you're hearing is an interview she did with Bloomberg in 2019. I told specifically to the recruiter in the beginning that I was not a smoker and I don't
Starting point is 00:39:49 plan to start smoking. And then they said it's not a requirement, even though many of their team, they are smokers. Xing recalled that Bowen and Monsi's were actually pluming during her job interview. It was not as annoying at all as somebody smoking next to you. She also recalled that they seemed aware that some scientists in the field of healthcare might be hesitant to work on a tobacco-related product. But I actually hold different views on that
Starting point is 00:40:17 because I think being somebody develops medications, right, or drugs, it's actually to treat sickness. But I do see smoking as a behavior causing a lot of health problem and then causing a lot of stress on public health space in general. Xing took the job in 2013 and set about trying to figure out how to deliver a nicotine hit that would convert serious smokers.
Starting point is 00:40:43 It would need to have just enough burn and a little hit to the back of the throat, but it couldn't be too harsh to handle. Xing conducted her research in a lab that was set apart from the rest of the office. Lorenzo Castillo, the customer service rep, thinks that was not an accident. I remember being like, how they're really putting research under lock and key. You don't walk by engineering anymore. Engineering is on the far side of the building. And that to me was like,
Starting point is 00:41:09 there's definitely like a different part of the building for them. They were really working on something special back there and they wanted to limit distractions. Working closely with Bowen, Xing mixed different formulas of e-liquids and recruited coworkers to give feedback on the flavor and the nicotine hit.
Starting point is 00:41:27 They called this buzz testing. Castillo remembered that his boss was one of the people who opted in to trying the new technology. She was a cigarette smoker, and she volunteered. Xing documented her test subjects' reactions to the new formulation. She wanted to know, did their heart rate increase? Did they get a throat hit? Did they feel a buzz? I remember being like, whoa, that's new. They're doing something that is a lot more data intensive
Starting point is 00:41:52 than anything we've done in the past. Eventually it became clear that nicotine salts were delivering a hit that was way, way stronger than anything Plume One or Two could give you. Xing had cracked the code. When those volunteers came to you and say that they haven't touched their cigarette pack for a while. I do think that we have a great product and we should let more people try it. On October 10, 2014, Bowen and Xing filed a patent to protect their innovation. In their application, they reported having quote, unexpectedly discovered that certain
Starting point is 00:42:30 nicotine liquid formulations provide satisfaction that was similar to smoking a traditional cigarette. In fact, their formulation was so strong that it made users' heart rates skyrocket higher and faster than if they just smoked. In other words, it had the potential to be even more addictive. While Bowen and Xing were at work on the nicotine formula, Monsey started thinking about a new design for their new device. He wanted it to be more like the PAX. PAX was that aesthetic was born out of everybody
Starting point is 00:43:10 on the team's immediate, you know, instinctual distaste for this 420 aesthetic. Josh Morinstein was a designer at the firm that worked on the PAX. He remembers one detail in particular from his early interactions with Bowen and Monsies. The main thing I remember was that they were constantly, constantly vaping. Constantly.
Starting point is 00:43:33 And there was a giant bowl, like a salad bowl, that had hundreds of multicolored plume pots. Those were the little Nespresso guys. and then there was another bowl that had hundreds of used pods and they would go through them constantly, they were constantly sucking on these things. Monsi's wanted their new device to be easier to use than the plume, something that people would want to keep in their pocket and something they'd want to show off. The main component of the brief was, let's design something that has permanence, to use this word, and the idea was to create something that was reusable,
Starting point is 00:44:14 and rechargeable, and refillable. People have to want this thing that has to feel special. Monsey has offered Morinstein and his partner a contract for a few weeks of design work on this new concept. They agreed to take on the project and came up with a whole host of designs. Finally, when they felt they were almost tapped out. We said, is there anything that we've kind of left
Starting point is 00:44:43 undiscovered? And I think I said, what would it be like to smoke in the future? Would you really use a cylinder? And this is all based off of the way that traditional tobacco is manufactured and processed and rolled. And I had a USB key on my key chain,
Starting point is 00:45:00 which was a tiny little rectilinear form, and it was sheet metal that was rolled and those are pretty inexpensive. And I said, what if it was like this? Like a USB stick. He put the one on his key chain up to his lips. And it felt better than trying to wrap your mouth around a circular shape.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Morinstein and his partner dubbed this version the Slab, and they got to work drawing up the concept. They decided that you should be able to charge the device by sticking it into your computer, just like a USB stick. In June of 2013, they presented the Slab to Bowen and Monsey's. We have the original presentation here that we shared with the team at Jewel.
Starting point is 00:45:51 The PowerPoint shows the product already named Jewel. Morinstein didn't know when or how that name had been decided, but he recalled Bowen and Monsey's already having settled on it before he was hired. Bowen would later clarify that the name was inspired by jewels, like gems, and jewel, the scientific unit of energy.
Starting point is 00:46:13 And you can see in this image here, when you're holding it almost in a traditional cigarette format, you know, it kind of sits between the fingers in a slim way, and it's actually more comfortable than a cylinder would be. And they were just immediately like, this is it, this is the one. Yeah, there was no question, this is the one.
Starting point is 00:46:30 At this point in our interview, Morinstein put away the PowerPoint and pulled out one of the early prototypes of the jewel. Can I hold this jewel prototype? Yeah. It's remarkably similar to the jewel we know and love today. It's probably the most famous thing I've ever designed, for sure. At the end, I think we made $16,000 on it.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Morinstein went on to design the fellow Gooseneck kettle, the Open Spaces shoe rack, and Athena Club razors. But the jewel is far and away the most recognizable product he's ever designed. That's because it's one of the most recognizable products of the 21st century, like the iPhone and the Tesla Model 3. Like smartphones and cars, e-cigarettes had existed long before the jewel came along. But it was Morinstein's design that made the jewel stand out. Frankly, I think we did a good job.
Starting point is 00:47:34 You know what I mean? Like, I'm like, oh, we kind of nailed it. Yeah, it's iconic. Yeah. And that's what we were hired to do. By early 2015, Adam Bowen and James Monsey's were finally ready to release the jewel into the world. Ten years after first presenting their idea to their classmates at Stanford. They started agreeing to interviews, like the one you heard at the beginning of this episode,
Starting point is 00:48:04 where Monsi's teased their upcoming product launch. So, let's talk about this year. What is next? What's in store for you guys? A lot of great stuff. It's all a top secret. Yeah, we'll have more than one really awesome new product out this year.
Starting point is 00:48:24 One really awesome new product out this year. One really awesome new product. When Kurt Sonderager got his hands on the jewel, he was really impressed with how far Bowen and Monsi's had come from the prototype they showed him back in 2007. What did you think? You know, they definitely fixed the product. In every sense of the word, it was super easy.
Starting point is 00:48:44 There were no pain points. There was no butane. There was no shock. It was easy to put a pot in and take a pot out. So I knew it was going to be pretty big. I didn't have any idea how big it actually got. He only had one concern. What if Bowen and Monsey's had made their product a little too good? I gave it to one of my buddies, Owen's a here in Encinitas and he was a heavy smoker. And he finally completely gave up on cigarettes and when I gave him his jewel he told me,
Starting point is 00:49:15 he said, shit, I feel like I'm addicted again. This season on Backfired will take you inside Jewel's Rise and its precipitous fall. I didn't understand until it clicked you can smoke the Jewel wherever you want. Blue craze and e-cigarettes, it's called Jewel and it is flying off the shelves. This thing is really sexy and disruptive. There is such a thing as a company growing too fast. Jewel grew too fast. I'm going to go over a couple different ways to hit your jewel while you're in school and not get caught. We literally called our bathroom the Jewel Room. Tonight, authorities investigating what could be the country's first death linked to vaping.
Starting point is 00:50:05 I think it was the beginning of the end for Juul. We'll also hear from the co-founder of Juul, James Monsies, who has not spoken publicly about the company in nearly half a decade. We could have done a lot better job collectively of dealing with this if we hadn't been so focused on finding a new enemy so quickly. We'll meet the new owners of the next generation of vape companies and the frustrated authorities who have been powerless to rein them in. We invested about $2 million and we blew it up immediately into a multi-million dollar
Starting point is 00:50:40 company within 90 days. It's like imagine you're walking down the street and someone's like, here take this like 500 bucks like run, run, run, run. We didn't predict what I now believe is an epidemic of e-cigarette use among teenagers. It was a witch's brew of public health concerns. The teens are very clever. They seem to evade where the regulations go. US agents recently seized more than 1.4 million illegal e-cigarettes. It can almost feel like a game of, you know, Whack-a-Mole.
Starting point is 00:51:07 And finally, I'll try to figure out how to end my own personal vaping war, or at least come to some sort of truce. My mom doesn't really know about any of this, so I'm contemplating how I will talk about it on the podcast if I will. Yeah. I feel like a great way to tell your parents about your nicotine addiction is to launch
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