A Geek History of Time - Episode 158 - Henry Ford, Nazis, and Square Dancing Part III

Episode Date: May 14, 2022

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a power outage in my neighborhood. And so I'm not, well I could have stayed home and we could have recorded virtual. If this was discused to actually be in the same room again. So it took advantage of it. And that's pretty much what I have going on right now. How about you? Well, I'm Deeming Harmony. I am a Latin and a drama teacher up here in Northern California.

I am trying and experiment. I last year got the kids' cats and the cats kind of regressed and they're potting and decided that any and all floor mats were pissworthy. So now we have no floor mats. I bought a new floor mat. Actually, do me a favor. We're going to do this is totally inscripted. Walk into that room and take a look at the door mat

Okay, all right those on the floor. All right You see this room. Yep So I'm hoping that that actually visually fucks with the cats Yeah, that that would do it. We'll see what happens. I think the scent will be too overpowering But it's essentially a what do you call those? It's an optical illusion of a black hole. So yeah, it'll be interesting to see how they respond to that. You know, interesting. Your adventures in cat ownership, being what they are. Of course, my wife and I bought,

we spent way too much money on a litter robot. Oh yeah, I've heard of this. Now, we don't have the problem you're having with like, oh, it's a floor mat. I'm just gonna do my business here. We don't have that problem. But we did have a problem with them favoring one box for shitting and another box for peeing and

And now it doesn't sound like that's necessarily such a problem, but the younger of our two is not great about burying it Oh, that's a flex. It's not that he's lazy. It's they're competing to see who's sent wins That's what's going on there. Okay, well boy, she fucking won, because dear God, so the solution in order to make sure that one half of our house remains livable, or both halves of our house remain livable, was we got a literal bot, which is great,

sure, except for the fact that the younger of the two cats, was we got we got a literal bot. Uh-huh. Which is great. Sure. Except for the fact that the younger of the two cats wants to sit out in front of it as it is rotating and smack it. And has on more than one occasion jumped into it. While it is rotating, causing the computer inside it to go, oh, air, air, air, and shut down. Sure. The safety measure, obviously. And so now we're trying to figure out how to help her psychologically deal with the terrifying robot that is stealing her poops. So I guess I do have something to share, but I hadn't thought of it until you mentioned

your own challenges and feline ownership. Well, speaking of cat shit, yes, when last we spoke. There's a transition. When last we spoke,'s a transition When last we spoke we were talking about Harry Bennett having to sign a Contract yeah, that's like this like well tojo was dead by that time, but you know the by forty-one Well, no by the end of the war. Sorry. I was thinking I was thinking of you know Japanese officers You know signing the parmistus.

Right, right. Yeah. I'm talking about a humiliating moment. So, now, like I said before, he Ford saw this as a chance to hurt his competitors. And that's, I think in many ways that was psychological self-preservation on his part. Okay. And in many ways, I think that he actually probably was starting to believe himself. Like he thought that he was co-opting the UAW. He told the president

of the UAW. Hey, remember when I signed last year? Bet you that really hurt GM. And they're like, what the fuck are you talking about? Why do you even mean? Well, okay. So here's a question though. So the UAW was the overarching union representing... It was the largest group. A lot of other workers say it was the largest group. Did Ford somehow think that because of the number of Ford employees that were members of the union compared to GM, like was Ford a bigger company compared to GM,

and so they had a bigger unit? No, I don't think so at that point, because again, they'd all gone through the depression, a lot of layoffs and things like that. So, like I'm trying to figure out how the logic worked in his head. Like clearly, like you say, there's an element of psychological self-preservation. It also reminds me very much of any time the prior president had to back pedal on anything. Right. It was always, you know, look how it got won over on somebody by, you know, dropping the

rope in the tug of war, right? Right. Haha, look, they fell. Look, they felt like, right. Did they, though? Right. You know, and, and so, so the psychological preservation is real, but like he wasn't stupid by any stretch of the imagination.

And so I have to wonder where was his calculus in that? Like not just hurting GM, but also like obviously, okay, well, I'm still the owner of the company. And so I'm still the benefactor of All right, all of the workers so him somehow thinking that he's still as he said last episode. He's still the daddy. Right Like okay, one of my favorite understand that one of my favorite quotes about it came from the TV series Rome. It's Oh, so we're not retreating. We're just attacking and reverse. Yes.

There's a layer to that. There is. Now, also, remember, he has, I'm gonna use a car metaphor here. He has a couple different gears. Okay. Right? Yeah.

Reverse ain't one of them. No. But second gear is co-opped. Okay. And I think there is some layer of, again, he thought he was co-opting them. And remember the pacifist in World War One, like it mentioned last time, he co-opted them. Now, speaking of World War One, Ford also had a history

of anti-Semitism. And in 1915, he said that the war was a German Jewish banker's conspiracy and that they'd instigated the war to make profits. He kept that same energy all the way through World War II. Okay, wait. Okay. Okay, hold on. Sure.

Like, okay, we can go back and look at the bullshit that is the protocols of the Elders of Zion and all. Oh, we're going to. I know. I know we are. But I want to know how it is that an otherwise intelligent individual intelligent does not mean that you know your history. Okay, granted. Okay, but how how exactly do you get to the point where it sounds logical that this secretive kebaw is going to start a war for profit. When you yourself are co-opting the pacifists because war is bad for business. Because he said that war was good for business in the short term.

Munitions, manufacturers, absolutely make money, and if you're in it for the short term, not for overall productivity of the world, which is what he's in it for. It's kind of like people who have this racial hierarchy, they always happen to be a part of the group that's either second to the top or the top. Okay. You know, it's that same kind of thing. So I'm in this for the purity of production. Now the Jewish bankers from Germany, they clearly want to make money off of munitions.

They have a cash grab. And he's seeing plenty of American manufacturers switch over to munitions and making lots of money. So he sees the problem. He just learns the wrong lesson about it. He also grew up at a time where KKK membership was peaking. This is true. And he was an adult the second time that it peaked.

Yes. And he grew up as Jewish immigrants were coming to America in very large numbers. Okay. And he was getting his company really moving right as the 1924 immigration acts started limiting specifically which immigrants were coming into the country and how many in what numbers. Right. Right. Ford also had a long history of being sticking care at, right? Especially with black workers. He was an early adopter of hiring black workers. Half of the black auto workers in the Detroit area,

prior to unionization, were Ford employees. Oh, wow. That made up about 11% of the Ford workforce. So, half of the black auto workers in the area made up 11%. So if he'd hired all of them, that would have been a fifth of his workers. Wow. Now most of them were in the janitorial jobs, the dirtiest jobs, the most dangerous jobs. But he did hire specifically black workers for skilled workers.

He even had a division headed by Don Marshall and Willis Ward, who was a University of Michigan athlete who had a lot of influence in an area called Paradise Valley where many black auto workers lived in Detroit. Okay. So he was seeking them out and he also set up direct links with black churches, lots of money with lots of strings attached. Here's the money. So long as your church is not used to unionize, you'll get new fused.

So long as your church isn't used to unionize, I will hire your parishioners for $5 a day, which is the same wage that he gave to white workers in the 1910s. Okay. And if the minister refused, guess where his congregation might go? Because he got to eat. OK.

Man off from heaven, right? All right, yeah. Now, when A. Philip Randolph, famous black labor leader, came and talked at a Detroit church in 1938, many of its members had their jobs threatened by Ford and some were actually fired. Ford also took over Inxter, which is an area where 500 black workers and their families lived, which was near the Rouge River complex. He made over the whole town, updated it, and then he charged them all but 12 cents of their hourly wages to pay back his good charity

Speaking of time daddy he turned it into a company town. Yes 12 and left them 12 cents an hour. Yeah, well, yeah Okay, now this is 20 what this was 30s 30s. Wow. Yeah, he also he also parlayed this into political influence one out of every black one out of every eight black votes in Detroit city were controlled by Ford's Republican cronies. He then turns Democrat after 1918. Yeah, well, okay, Wilson. Wilson. Yeah. Now, this pressure obviously depresses the number of black union members, right? Yeah. But he's artificially low. Exactly. But back to the anti-Semitism.

In 1919, a friend of Ford's noted in his own diary that Ford said, quote, the Jews caused the war, the Jews caused the outbreak of thieving and robbery all over the country, the Jews caused the is one of the wars over. War is over. Yeah. Okay, so so the Jews right. The single monolithic group. The single single monolithic, which is just ridiculous on its own, but so they're responsible for the war. Yes. They're responsible for... Theaving and robbery.

So the war is a thing you can point to. Yeah. Theaving and robbery, we are getting more abstract. It's okay. But then my favorite, they cause the inefficiency of the Navy. The efficiency of the Navy. Like, I'm still stuck on the Thieving and Robbery. Like, how exactly do they do that?

Do they ship it from someplace else? Like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, you know, but, but that's, that's, it's still the same fundamental question. What are you talking about? It is. Yeah. It's still the same fundamental question. What are you talking about? What is there some specific symptom of banditry in the hills outside Dearborn? Like, you know, level two, D&D adventure,

you gotta go deal with the bandits. Like, what are you even fucking on about? Like, you know. Well, this is the problem with being really wealthy. Nobody asks you the important question. Nobody says what the fuck right? Nobody says no. Yeah.

Yeah. It's that, you know. And then and yes, and now I'm emotionally prepared to go on to and he caused the inefficiency of the Navy. Yeah. Like, okay, look Buckminster. Um, this is World War One. Yeah. Like, okay, look, Buckminster. This is World War One. Right. The United States Navy was growing. Well, you remember Teddy Roosevelt had actually updated the Navy.

Well, the Great White Fleet. Oh, yeah. No, it was a huge big deal. Yep. But we were still... We still didn't have a standard number. We were still number two or number three. Oh, easily, yeah. Easily, maybe number five, worldwide in terms of, in terms of our fleets. Yes. And, you know, we were at that point already having to use that fleet to defend, you know, far-flung holdings on two sides of the planet. Yes. You know, Puerto Rico and Hawaii. Yeah, and the Philippines. And the planet. Yes. You know, Puerto Rico and Hawaii.

Yeah, and the Philippines. And the Philippines. Yeah. And so like inefficient, how exactly and why? Well, I think he could absolutely tie it back to banker interests in exporting and getting colonies and extracting wealth. Okay. I think it's always easy for anti-Semitic conspiracy theorists to find a link to their

anti-Semitic conspiracy theory. Yeah, well, yeah. It's because it is, it all you shoot the arrow and then you draw the target round. Yeah, then you figure out, yeah. So now in 1918, we'll back a year. I just wanted to give you a feel for the shit that he says. How bad shit this guy is about this. Yeah, speaking of Guam.

Yeah. Guam? Guam? Yeah. In 1918, he purchased the Dearborn Independent. It's a newspaper. Oh, this never goes well. Oh, now, well, you mean Jeff Bezos owning the Washington newspaper is no

Now while making millions while Ford's workers ate squirrels in the park that they caught I Know this for a fact because my great grandmother on my mother's side was reportedly a crack shot at squirrel hunting mother on my mother's side was reportedly a crack shot at squirrel hunting. Yeah. Um, he at some point misread the protocols of Zion, uh, the protocols of the elders of Zion as being true and he believed them. Yes. Now, what are the protocols of the elders of Zion? You might ask, well, I'll tell you.

They are a made up text, first published in Russia in 1903. However, okay, wait back. However, yeah, hold on. They're that new. Yeah. 1903. Yes. They're drawing on some other bullshit, but yes. Okay, okay, because, okay, blood libel is what I'm

thinking of in that code. Yeah, that goes quite a lot. Yeah, okay, all right. Now, the protocols of the elders of Zion, which if you've read them, what they are is they're allegedly the minutes of a meeting. Right. And nobody takes minutes of a meeting this way.

You know, we met at 803, we read the minutes from the last meeting, past unanimously. Yeah. Item number one. We're entered into the record last meeting. Yeah. Past unanimously. Yeah. Item number one. We rendered into the record. Right. Item number one. How are we going to eat Christian babies?

Item number two. How are we going to steal all the money from the banks? Yeah. Item number three. Like, just fucking, like, like, again, really bad writing. Yeah. Okay. Now, this was a conglomeration of several anti-Semitic texts from previous Yeah. Okay. Now this was a conglomeration of several

anti-Semitic texts from previous times. Okay. One of the most important ones was a parody of Jewish idealism that was used to denigrate a Russian Zionist Congress that had met in September of 1902. And now we see why it's 1903. Okay. This parody was then cleaned up by bad actors who wanted to shift from an internal, anti-Semitic joke to make it seem real and serious. So take a, you remember that skit about Ronald Reagan on SNL, where he's just a daughtering old fool

and then as soon as the press leaves her own, he's like, all right, back to it. We're going to do this, this, and this. Oh, right. Yeah. Right. Now imagine somebody writing a history in Scare Quotes book that actually did that that listed that as the reality. Oh, wow. So you're taking a skit, although the SNL skit was well written, but you're taking a skit a parody, and then you're actually inserting like real facts into it to make it seem conspiratorial. Thus, the initial publisher, a man named Pavel Krushchevne, was able to falsify and forge a joke into a real hoax that aimed focused anti-semitism for generations to come.

Yeah. Krishavin was a black hundredist. These are reactionaries, ultra-nationalist Russian monarchist loyals, monarchist loyalists to the Romanovs. He had published several newspapers, mostly anti-Semitic. The Bessarabian was specifically aimed at drumming up support for anti-Semitism in 1897. All of this was aimed at starting a pogrom, which ended up being the Kishinev pogrom, in the capital of the Bessarabia Oblast turn governate.

Modern-day Moldova. Okay. Okay. Okay. This program led to the deaths of 49 Jews, 92 were gravely injured, and countless women were raped and damaged to over 1500 homes. The program had activated Jews in the US to sign financial help to those who were afflicted and to help them to emigrate. Okay. I had brought this up when I did the soap episodes with our guest, Amanda Lanna. Okay.

I brought it up from the American side. I had not done the research to this aspect, but there was a large community in, I wanna say, Queens or Yonkers that was mobilizing to help Jews emigrate to America. And again, the late 1800s. So you're seeing the pull factor and the push factor, right? The program focused the world's attention on the problem that Jews specifically faced in Russia.

But the protocols were way too attractive as a narrative for some to just disregard as the bullshit that it was. And I want to make this absolutely clear. The protocols of the elders of Zion was a work of fiction that started in Russia, a deeply pogrom related or laden country, which was plagiarized from earlier anti-Semitic sources. It was a fraud and an attempt to show proof that there was a worldwide Jewish conspiracy to try to take over the world. And the worst part was that even this was a misreading of a political satire that was actually designed to roast Napoleon III, which that itself was a plagiarized attempt from an earlier work. I fell down a rabbit hole. Now Henry Ford could not have not read this. Now that said, I've also not seen any direct evidence that he did. However, the

Dearborn Independence started running a feature on May 20, 1920 that was called, quote, the international Jew, the world's foremost problem. This feature ran for I wanna say 91 straight weeks. It started on page one. Wow. Top of the fold. Who years? Yes.

And it began with, How do you rant about like you heard me rant? Everybody who listens to this has heard me rant. Yeah, we're about to. I don't understand, fuck you. I don't understand how you can maintain that energy for that long. For 91 weeks.

91 like. This is what I mean. He had to read the protocols because this is like just taking it whole cloth. My God. All right. It started with quote, there is apparently in the world today a central financial force, which is playing a vast and closely organized game

with the world for its table and universal control for its stakes. Oh, I know this one. Yeah. Late stage capitalists. Nope. Jews. Of course. Yeah. Yeah, late stage capitalist. Nope Jews. Of course. Yeah. James wanted to it. It also quoted the new international encyclopedia as a drop quote even before the feature started. It ran for 91 straight weeks. Like I

said, these were weekly issues. The paper had a reach of 500,000 copies. Peeking at about 900,000, largely due to the subscription campaigns that he forced on car dealers. Okay, wait. You wanna deal my cars? Have these papers in your waiting room. Wow. You wanna sell the Model T?

A new copy of this, you know, the latest issue has to be in the Model T when you sell it. Wow. Okay, so did he have some level of pecuniary, like motive for this or was this just him being a batch at crazy zealot who felt that he needed to get? You remember? The truth.

Out there. So, so a couple of things. I think that his anti-Semitism ran far and deep long before his efforts to make peace for the sake of business. But I also think that it was heavily reinforced by the fact that he failed to make peace for the sake of business. But I also think that it was heavily reinforced by the fact that he failed to make peace and he was mocked when he came to Europe to try to make peace. And he set that on the bankers and of course,

the da da da da da da. So psychological self-preservation. We're psychological self-preservation. So what we're saying here. But also, the racism was 100% based on that. Yeah, it was 100% already there. Oh yeah. So what we're saying here is we have yet another psychological

parallel to Trump. Like, he'll come up later. Yeah, well, I'm sure he will. But yes. You know, this is the same fucking pathology. It is. It absolutely. By 110%.

The same. Okay. Yeah. Now, keep in mind, the idea wasn't that Judaism was a problem. Ideologically, it was the Jew as a biological race that was the problem. That's not a thing. One. Right. That's not a thing. Right? That's not a thing. And let's add phonology and and eugenics into it. They had a social type that made them mentally and ethically defective. And according to the pre-knowledge in the other

of course, the people who set themselves up at the top of the pyramid. Well, yeah, because obviously the white European phenotype is clearly the most fenced, the ideal. It's funny, because it's the most mutated. Yeah. I guess if you're going from the perspective of the more mutations from the base, the closer to perfect you get, which is just in itself weird, which is completely fucking

wrong. Right. That's not what any of evolution means. Number one, but I mean, you know, the idea that the European phenotype is Northern European, Northern European, keep in mind. Very, very, well, because the Northern European is the, it's scare quotes, pure European phenotype, whereas the Southern European one is the one that has more, you know, this is why you need eugenics because they keep passing, You know, burbers and, you know,

we're gonna get to that. I'm sure. But this is the same reason that Europe gets to be its own continent. Right. When it's really logically, it's an ithsmith sticking off of Asia. Yes.

Like, yeah. Maybe the whole continent idea is a problem. Maybe you like that. Because that leads to yeah, yeah, I do want to say though That and this is gonna be a really weird Recognize it is a 100% backhanded compliment not even a compliment But the one group of people that is least adapted to being in most of the world Has made it so that they are the safest

going anywhere in the world. Well, yeah. Through the structures that they've set up. It's a really weird, bizarre kind of thing. Yeah, and okay, and now what book I'm gonna recommend at the end of the episode. But anyway, carry on. So he publishes the protocols in the Dearborn Independent and calls it a factual piece.

Now, this is separate, but sometimes the same, as the other column that he ghost wrote about the Jews. Now, to be sure, that column wasn't nearly as blatant and vibrantly anti-Semitic. Either the anti-Semitic stuff was saved for page one and it rarely had an actual byline. You wanna know what the paper's model was? Oh no. The chronicler of the neglected truth. What, okay. Why?

Don't you hate when it rhymes that much? Why, why, why can't anybody, anybody, anywhere Why? Why? Why can't anybody? Anybody, anywhere in any conspiracy theory outfit like anywhere in the last century and a half come up with anything original. Don't need to. But why did Shaq never shoot three pointers. Never needed to. Okay, but I mean, you get what I'm saying. I totally get what you're saying. Come on. Like, I mean, there's a lot of people. The curse of the historian is to see how in unartful

most conspiracies that worked were, how they fell over backward despite themselves into success, and how all the conspiracies that people think are artful are dumber than fuck. Well, one, one and like over and over and over and over again, over like forever, the moment you involve more than two people in any plot, you have just made it infinitely less likely for it to actually go over. Mm-hmm. Like, yeah.

And, and, and just think about any time you've tried to do a group project. Yeah. Or you've worked on any kind of anything in a corporate environment with a bunch of other people. Like, how often does that stuff go off without a hitch? I'm gonna use American assassinations of presidents. Okay. John Wilkes Booth was the only successful member of that group. Yeah.

There were five of them. He's the only one who's succeeded. He's the only one who pulled it off. Charles Gato acted alone. It worked. Yep. In fact, you could actually say the reason it worked was because there was a conspiracy

to keep the president alive by all the doctors. And they fucked it up because they didn't wash their hands. Leon Schultz. Yeah. Also, I acted alone. Yeah. Right? Seraan, Seraan.

Yep, Seraan, Seraan. He acted alone. Who's the guy who... Shoes Booth. No, we talked about him, he was part of the conspiracy. The guy who said you miss 100% of the shots that you don't take. Leihar Vioswold. Leihar Vioswold. So, or maybe that was Michael Jordan.

Yeah. Wayne Gretzky. But anyway, Leihar Vioswold acted alone. It worked. And, feel free to add us. But, you know, those things worked. Yeah, you know now grand you history is also riddled with people who failed at single Gunmanship the guy who tried to kill Andrew Jackson the guns got scared The bullets were like no no no my cousins are already in there

I ain't going that I ain't going. That's a place where bullets go to die. Yeah, the guy who tried to kill Teddy Roosevelt. Yeah. And was thwarted by his 30-page speech, folded four times in his pocket. John Hinckley. Yeah.

You know, so history is also riddled with failures. Yeah. But I haven't seen yet a conspiracy that carried out all of its ends. Again, Lincoln was one of five people supposed to be assassinated. Yeah, well, it was supposed to be the entire government. Yeah.

It was the entire executive branch. The cabinet was supposed to be hollowed out. Yes. And they got really, I want to say was it seward? It was seward. Yeah, because his son, I think, might have died from the wounds. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. His is yeah, and it was it was awful. Yes. horrific. Yes. Cause it involved a bowie knife. I'm remembering right. It was it was certainly a slashing on. Yeah. But anyway. So yeah. But like

But like the very idea that you have to go into a conspiracy theory, like if you're going to believe in a conspiracy theory, you have to go into it, denying any level of your own lived experience. You know, in daily groups of other people, there has to be a level of willful disbelief. Yes, there does. In order to buy into any conspiracy Even if you both work the night shift at togos and One of you is up front and one of you is in the back You're still gonna fuck things up for each other. Oh, yeah. Oh, oh, yeah. I mean especially there. Oh

You know, how goes so Ford especially there. Like, you know, talcos. Oh my god. Forward. I love that example too. Ford specifically thought that Jews were inefficient and therefore they were wrecking capitalism in their ability to excel at it, which mental gymnastics much. Oh okay. Yep. We're not going to get far if you have to parse out every sentence of his dumb shit I understand but go ahead, but they were inefficient. Yes, but they were fucking up capitalism because they were selling it. Yes

But they were inefficient. Yes Like were they inefficient because they were parasites pulling off of the system? I think there's something to do with that and also just through the sheer force of momentum of of their money. You know that kind of shit. What is it? Okay, whatever. Fuck that. All right. Carry on. Now this is a I'll try to hold my yeah. What the fuck's in. Yeah. A little while. So it's a pretty common both sides of the street argument quite honestly. Yeah. You know, it's the they are inferior to us and yet they are Terrifying exactly. Yeah, am I am I a a pathetic frail snowflake? Or am I a terrifying communist insurgent right figure it the fuck out? Yeah, both whenever I need you to be yeah, he also stated quote the Jew is a race that has no civilization to point to no aspiring

Religion no great achievements in any realm." End quote. I know. Okay, period. So because I think the aspiring religion part is so much what the fuck are you? Is such an episcopalian thing to say? Because the aspiring part is Jesus came and we got to get up to being like him. The Jews haven't had their Messiah come yet, therefore. It's, again, I'm gonna shoot an arrow and then I'll paint the target around it. It obviously makes the question. Speaking as a Catholic.

Yes. The level of utter ignorance of Judaism that's involved in saying that. Yes. Is God's backing? Yes. I really wish we had Tessa on this show. I so so wish she were here. Yes. But there's more. My God. Quote. There's no other racial or national type which puts for this kind of person. It is not merely that there are fake Jews, or that there are a few Jews among international financial controllers, it is that these world controllers

are exclusively Jews. End quote. Now I want to remind you, Ford was really good at making machines. He is not an historian. The collection of articles, essays, columns, etc. were collected into four volumes and then published as books. And those were then translated into 12 different languages. So it wasn't enough just to put out 500,000 copies of this shit.

Then it's like, you know what I really want to do? I want to make an omnibus. I want a four volume omnibus. In 1922 it got translated into German, where it became a quick hit, and yet it was never copyrighted, because then you could spread it farther and wider. Oh, God. And so they sold over 200,000 copies. And when he was called out for his anti-Semitism in a telegram, Ford's paper told the author

of the telegram, quote, your rhetoric is that of a Bolshevik order. So if you're playing bingo, there you go. Okay. Yeah. So wait. Sure. Okay. Now, I mean, obviously, this is just classic both sides of the but yes, but you're telling me but I feel like this one needs to be. Sure. Pull it apart show just how ridiculous. Yeah, so you're saying the intensely capitalist international banking system, which by your claim,

Jews are so good at. Right. That capitalist system is dominated by Jews. Yes. But if you support those intensely capitalist really good at capitalism, bank owning Jews, then you are a Bolshevik, which literally means you are a revolutionary dedicated to the elimination of private property and the collectivization of like finance like everything. Now the thing is what religion did most people think Bolsheviks at large portion of comments were. most people cited them as being Jews now they might be a theistic Jews, but they're Jews Well, okay, a certain percentage of them probably were attracted to both of us and because the czar was busy trying to fucking kill them all

Also, Marxism depends on a heavily urbanized population and you tend to see Jews more in an urban setting. This is a good point. Because they're not allowed to own land in most places in Europe. Yeah. So there's. So this idea of Bolshevism being tied to Judaism. Or not tied to Judaism. I'm going to use a different term, tied to Jewry. or not tied to Judaism. I'm gonna use a different term, tied to jewelry. Yes. Um, you absolutely like, yes, yes, yes, which is again, there's so many problems. Like, so much, yeah.

So in 1924, Ford accused Aaron Shapiro, who's an attorney of exploiting farmer co-ops. This led to Shapiro, I'm sorry, not Shapiro, Sapiro. It's led to Sapiro suing my sorry not Shapiro, Sapiro. It's led to Sapiro suing my auto correct. Yeah, okay. A sued Ford for libel because he accused him in his paper, which eventually led to a trial in 1927, and at that point Ford closed down the independent.

Yeah, that's right. He settled out of court, but only after negotiating with the US representative, House of Reps, who and the president of the American Jewish Committee, he apologized formally and made a cash settlement, and I would have loved to have heard his take on that. I remember reading the apology at such a non-apology. Oh, yeah, well of course. Yeah.

And it didn't stop with publishing a newspaper, by the way, as well as several volumes based on it, Ford's money organized a network of spies to keep an eye on Jewish leaders in the communities. This information gleaned that he gleaned, came back to Ford and came back to his editors of the independent. So he's by... So he's by...

...stocking people. Yeah, kinda. Jesus. Well, back then though, anytime you interview someone you would give their whole fucking address. It's true, yeah. Now, meanwhile in Germany, there was a malagested, Nair du Well struggling artist veteran named Adolf Hitler, who had become the chairman of the Struggling Nazi Party in 1921.

He had a penchant for riling up crowds, specifically by using the stab in the back rhetoric that would enable him to make a sense of Germany losing the last war despite having invaded another country. He read the international Jew in 1922, and it helped him to crystallize his conspiratorial anti-Semitism. Ford becomes Adolf Hitler's icon of anti-Semitism. And when Ford was making motions about running for president in 1923, Adolf Hitler told the Chicago Tribune in an interview, quote, I wish that I could send some of my shock troops to Chicago and other big American cities to help. This is why it's important to denounce shitty people when they say that they're for you.

Now, this love of Ford is very important to note because in November of 1923, this strangely charismatic, deeply flawed man who thought that he had a special destiny and had daddy issues continued his win streak by initiating a failed coup. 2000 Newlyminted Nazis, no marched on a Feld her in Hall. Feld her in Hall. Okay. A monument that honored the Bavarian Army's strong traditions. Yes. They had the support of many police. Huh, funny. Even though plenty of others did their actual fucking jobs, after the fail takeover of the German government,

it landed Hitler in Landsberg prison after they platformed him over a 24-day trial for a five-year sentence of which he only served nine months, only 264 days. And this prison sentence was in and of itself pretty light. He was excluded from forced labor, and he had a pretty reasonable accommodation. Part of this is my wishing that they'd done more to him, but honestly, I also have trouble with the carceral straight as it is. But still, there it's called Festungschaft, its fortress confinement, allowed visitors.

So think of like house arrest combined with protective custody like what we saw Frank having in Godfather Part II. Yeah. Now interestingly, the guy that was in the cell before Hitler had gotten evicted in order to make room for Hitler. This guy's name was Anton Graf von Arko-Alph Valley. Wow. Fucking Bavarian Germans and their names.

Yes, where'd he go? Anton was just going to go to Arko Valley, was born in Songt Martin M. Inkris, which is only relevant because of its goddamn name being almost as ridiculous as his was. Guy, I fucking hate these places. You know what? Shout out though to our Bavarian listeners. Yeah. I'm sure they're wonderful places. I would love to go and stay with you.

But by only case Bavaria is a lovely part of the world. Yes, absolutely. Yes. Yes. If anybody in Austria wants to let me stay on their couch and fucking, I am happy to make the trip. I would love to come fuck. So his father, this is Arco Valley's father, was a landed businessman and his mother was

from a prominent wealthy Austrian Jewish banking family. He had a god-damned ancestral home and a noble title until Germany became a republic. So see if any of this sounds familiar at all. Anton Fuck his name served as a part of the Royal Bavarian Infantry Life Guards Regiment, think Bodyguard for Royalty. When he came back from the from the front after the war, he was angry and disillusioned, and he became a German nationalist, and he was Austrian by birth, but he adopted Germany as his home and enrolled in Munich University. He came from a rich and aristocratic family, was a monarchist and an anti-Semite.

He felt that he was somehow stained by his mother's blood. Huh. Anyway. That's kind of like that thing where it could have been harry and it could have been Neville. Right? Like, right? Like, there's...

What the fuck was that? Only, only, um, Adolf's background was not as... It was not so cratic, or nearly as... Nearly as... Quite intuitive. But again. But the rest of that already was rich as fuck. Yeah.

Neville not so much. Yeah, so okay Anyway, Anton fuck his name. He fixated He fixated on a Jewish socialist named Kurt Eisner. Now Kurt Eisner was a political revolutionary in Germany and a journalist and a theater critic He helped to organize the socialist revolution that overthrew the monarchy in Bavaria in 1918, making him kind of the standard bearer for that revolution. Kurt Eisner. Okay. So, fuck his name clearly had a problem with this.

And Eisner became the prime minister of the people's state of Bavaria, which only lasted from 1918 to 1919. Oh, because the all of the Republican efforts, all of the Democratic governments early on in the wake of the initial revolution were ephemeral in the extreme. Quote, and this is something that, uh, fuck his name said, Eisner is a Bolshevist, a Jew. He isn't German, he doesn't feel German, he subverts all patriotic thoughts and feelings,

he's a traitor to this land. Wow. Now, to prove himself worthy of the fucking fool society, since they rejected him based on his matrilineal Jewish descent, and because he was a monarchist, an ultra-nationalist, and an all-around piss baby with way too big a name who cosplayed as a German, he, Anton Fuckas' name, shot Eisner in the back

and murdered him in February of 1919. Now, the sad irony here was that Eisner was actually on his way to resign from the government. He was literally walking to their version of a parliament to resign from the government because of all the problems in the government. You are fucking kidding. No. And so, had he gone left instead of right down a street or something, maybe Anton von Fuck

his name wouldn't have killed him, but instead he did. Now after Eisner's death a free trade union association commissioned a monument to the revolution where his remains were interred. Of course now June of 1933 the Nazis demolished it. Okay that's on brand. Right. This murder of course was very popular with the shittiest types of bavarians, which led to a big spate of fighting between communist and anarchist and writers, in Munich, brutalizing politics all the more. This led to the death of Prince Gustav of Thurne and Toxys,

whose name I only include because Jesus Goddamn Christ with these fucking names. But also, because Jesus, God damn Christ with these fucking names. But also, Prince Gustaf of Two Fucking Much was a member of the Thule Society. So I'm not particularly bummed out by his death. Well, no. Anton Fuckas name was an inspiration for both Gurbals, who was in Munich at the time and saw the potential

in such a path, and Hitler, who later said, quote, Eisner's death only hastened developments and led finally to the Soviet dictatorship, or to put it more correctly to a passing rule of Jews as had been the original aim of the See, even assassinated, they have plans. What? I know. It's the both sides, they're, they're, it's the same, they're, they're weak and like subhuman and all this, but they're also terrifying and like, it it is maddening now Anton Fuck is name was tried in 1920 and sentenced to death that then got reduced to a five-year sentence for killing the official head

of a government because why not yeah you know let's say that you want to orchestrate I don't know the kidnapping of a governor. Yeah. Nope. Nothing. That's it. You cross state lines and kill people. Yeah. Let's say that you slap a comedian. Yeah. We'll see which one gets gets more punishment.

Yeah. So it might have had something to do with the fact that the God damn state prosecutor said about Anton von Fuck his name. Quote, if the whole German youth were imbued with such a glowing enthusiasm, we could face the future with confidence. If the state prosecutor is saying that about the guy who's prosecuting. Yeah, well, here's the thing. What we're looking at here, I think, to contextualize and come up with a hot

take. There was, we were looking at a society, if we're looking at, you know, Vimar, Germany. It was a society that had only very recently left, essentially feudalism, monarchism behind. And anytime that happens, like we talked about in the last episode, have those people who were heavily invested in the prior system, absolutely. Who are still going to claw and fight,

and who are going to lament that system because it was their ox getting gourd. And then you're gonna have all the people who were downtrodden and oppressed by that system because it was their ox getting gourd. And then you're going to have all the people who were downtrodden and oppressed by that system. Right. Who are going to want to say, fuck it, burn it all to the ground. And so. And that agreement is very easily co-opted if you can give them anything. Yes, if you can give them anybody to point it at. And if you're savvy enough or lucky enough,

or both, to figure out how to appeal to both of those groups at the same time, then you're gonna wind up, you can be a pedagogue at both ends. Oh, absolutely. Now interestingly, Anton von Fokus' name did not go far enough for the Nazis because at the end of the day, he was more of a Federalist. Okay, they kept him in

protective custody until he promised not to kill Hitler. Really? Yeah. And just because I want to keep this red going in 1934, he married his cousin and Don't worry. It was just like FDR and Eleanor right so many many leaks away. Yeah Maria Gabrielle Grafen von Arko Zinnenberg the daughter of Count Joseph von und du Zarko Zinnenberg who himself was the great grandson of Maria Leopoldin of Austria-S day and Princess Wilhelmine von Ausberg. Okay. So big Ponzi posh marriage upper class. Now not everybody in his family married shitty people with long names his older brother actually married into the family of Raoul Wallenberg

who was an amazing guy. He was a criminal and an anti-nazi in Sweden. Oh wow. And he was really cool. He ripped people off and used that money to fake passports for Jews trying to escape. Yeah, okay, cool. But I digress. But yeah.

Hilar. Remember Hilar? There's a song about it. Yeah. While he was in prison for treason, he was ghost writing mine comp with Rudolph Hess, who got to visit all the time. Now, I had it in my brain when I was a kid

that Hess is on one side of bars and Hitler's on the other. No, it's a room bigger than this, with nice tables and wood and couches and shit. Hitler loved the cut of Ford's anti-Semitic jib, and he saw Ford as one of the very few who really, truly got it. Quote, I shall do my best to put his theories into practice in Germany." End quote. Well, of course he thinks he's one of the ones who gets it because he's the one who gave Hitler the blueprint for putting

his own nebulous, incoate hatred into a solidified form. As you said, it crystallized his own thinking. And again, he was anti-Semitic before he read that, but it definitely reinforced, like you said, to the catalyst. Yeah. before he read that, but it definitely reinforced like you said to the catalyst. Yeah, to the point where he kept a portrait of Ford in his office while he was ruling Germany. In fact, Ford was the only American who was actually named in mind-comp, and he stated, quote, it is Jews who govern the stock exchanges force, the stock exchange forces of the American Union, and he means the United States.

Every year makes them more and more the controlling masters of the producers in a nation of 120 millions. And then he goes on, quote, one great man forward to their exasperation still holds out independently. There is, there's so much fallacy involved in that. So, okay, if there are these Jewish people who are the controllers of the stock market. Right. Right. If Jews as a group are the ones in control of the stock market, explain to me

why none of the country clubs in New York, Michigan, Illinois, Florida, why is it none of those country clubs would let Jewish people in? Like, if we wanna have this argument, like, okay, I'm gonna take you and face value that, okay, yes, these people are the ones controlling all of this stuff.

Do they not wanna have a nice meal and play a game of golf? Nope. Nope. Play. Toob busy counting money. Did you ever see one of the goblins at Greengots playing golf?

No, you didn't. Golf is a pastoral setting. Ah. Landed aristocracy. The people who were tied with their blood to the soil. So, the story of the story is that the story of the story is that the story of the story is that the story of the story is that the story of the story is that the story of the story is that the story of the story is that the story of the story is that the story of the story is that the story of the story is that the story of the story is that the story of the story is that the story of the story is that the counter argument. Yes, from that point of view is well, you know, they're they're you know tied to the soil and royalism and whatever right right like no

the right brothers Mm-hmm became industrialists, right, you know, they but they came from But they came to the cities from a pastoral setting, Ford owned a farm, and came to industry from the pastoral set. Their families owned farms. Therefore, they were tied to the soil. They were peasants. Good folk.

You don't get to fucking heaven both ways. You can't be a royalist and be romanticizing fucking peasants. Right. I'm sorry. I'm a medievalist. I know how that shit works. No, you don't get to fucking do that. Yeah. So in 1938. You're all maddening. Fucking mad. Yeah, a little bit.

A little bit. Anyway. Luckily luckily we've all learned from this So in 1938 despite claiming not to be anti-Semitic Henry Ford accepted a 75th birthday gift from it off Hitler Okay, wait wait stop sure he spent all this time Talking about the international Jew Sure he spent all this time talking about the international Jew Mm-hmm Scare quotes international, but he apologized to Aaron Shapiro Formally in a telegram so clearly that makes him not anti-Jews right

What you just called them the Jews? Sir am I taking crazy? Okay, no, okay, despite claiming not to be right You just called them the Jews. Am I taking crazy bills? You don't see them? No. OK. No. OK. Despite claiming not to be anti-Semitic, he accepts an award from a doll fucking Hitler. Yes.

Now, by this time, this is 30 what now? 38. 38. So by this time, the German government has instituted blatant anti-Semitism. Crystal knots happened four years earlier. OK, it was 34. Yeah, it years early. Okay, it was 34. Yeah, it was 35.

Yeah, it was 34. Yeah, 34. I think you're right. The enabling acts, like the number of laws. They have very clearly. Yes. Yes. So, hey, I don't control who supports me.

Yeah. Yes, you fucking. Yeah, you can denounce them. You can say I don't control who supports me. Yeah. Yes, you fucking do. Yeah, you can denounce them. You can say I don't like that. You can tell them to do more than stand by. I don't want your fucking help. I don't want your fucking metal fuck off. You know, like the, you remember the,

the attorney general of Alabama. Yeah. It was, you know, here's my response. Kiss my ass. Kiss my ass. Yeah. Like, it was you know, here's my response, kiss my ass. Kiss my ass. Yeah. Like, all right. So the gift that he got was the grand cross of the supreme order of the German eagle because why not fucking load up the names again? Now here's the question. Sure. Was was that because that does

sound like the kind of thing that would have been an imperial Russian or German award was that a pre-existing award? Was that something Hitler just made up to give to Ford? It was a golden multi-cross surrounded by four small swatstickas and it was presented to Ford in his Dearborn officers by the German Vice Consul of Detroit And it was the highest honor that Nazis could bestow upon a foreigner Okay and it was the highest honor that Nazis could bestow upon a foreigner. Okay. When pressed about receiving the gift from Adolf Goddam fucking Hitler, Ford said, quote,

Acceptance of a medal from the German people does not, as some seem to think, invoke any sympathy on my part with Nazism. Those who have known me for many years realize that anything that breeds hate is repulsive to me. Oh fuck you sideways. Like calm on. Okay. Here's okay. So so getting back to Ford's watchmaker mindset. Sure. This is this is something else that has been has been like pecking at the back of my brain. Of course he's going to be at least somewhat sympathetic to fascism, even leaving all the anti-Semitism of specifically Nazism out of it. Like he'd be the kind of guy who would look at Mussolini,

who was not, who didn't give a shit, until entering into, you know, alliance with Hitler about Jewish conspiracy or any of that stuff. But the ultra-nationalism and combining government and industry into essentially one unit and stateism. Like of course Ford is going to have a hard on for that the size of the Empire State Bill CK was actually did so because because that is the ultimate in efficiency that is that is running the machine with putting all of the resources into generating output yes the other end of the machine literally the people serve the state. Yes. Yes.

Absolutely. It gives them meaning. Yeah. It's what happens when you take Hanfei to his legalism and make it industrial. There you go. Like, so of course he has a mat on for that part of the philosophy. And then you have Hitler slaubering all over his knob with the anti-semitism. So I wonder how many people at the time were fooled by him saying, well, you know, I mean,

it's not like I think it gives the people who are inclined that way, the moral cover, to continue to support well, he's got really good economic policies. Now, I'm not going to get into the connection of Ford and Germany when it comes to industry or how goddamn long into the war Ford continued to do business with the Nazis, including help build their war machines and their engines. Suffice to say it was disappointingly yet holy on brand a long amount of time. Now Baldur von Scherock, the leader of the Hitler-Jungen, testified at Nuremberg stating that he had become

an anti-Semite at the age of 17, this would have been in 1924. After reading Ford's ravings on Jews, so in the Nuremberg trials, you have Baldur von Scherock, the head of the H.J. saying this, you have no idea what a great influence this book had on the thinking of German youth. The younger generation looked with envy to the symbols of success and prosperity

like Henry Ford, and if he said the Jews were to blame, why naturally we believed them. We believed him." End quote. So now what does all of this have to do with square dancing? I actually have to get into eugenics before I can get to that. A whole lot of clan-baked bullshit is what it has to do with square hands. So Russian scientists and intellectuals came up with the beginning of the modern eugenicist movement, but it was really American and British scientists and intellectuals who breathed a very vibrant life into it, and really it was Americans who pushed hard for it as actual policy. Okay.

Yeah. Back up for a moment, sure. So you're telling me. Yes. That the protocols of the elders of Zion. Yes. And the pseudoscience of eugenics. Yes. Both had their roots in Russia. Yes. But I mean, they were both codified here. Yes, I'm not yes, but yes, but What what exactly is going on in the water around the Caucasus like yeah, the Cocacity of it all yeah Yeah, okay anyway, so Americans were very horny for eugenics

in the early 20th century. Yes. This likely had to do with the changing face of immigration, labor, and urbanization. Yes. By 1900, as many people lived in cities as did in rural communities, the increased immigration, specifically

of southern and eastern Europeans, had American racists in a tizzy about who the right and wrong white people were. And that's where we start seeing the American lexicon start to include derogatory terms for Italians and Poles. Yes. Specifically. Yes.

To a certain extent Portuguese. Depending on where you were, that was more rational. Depending where you were. Yep. I know in the time that I spent in Hawaii as a kid, like elsewhere in the country, you hear jokes about stupid people being Polish. Right. In Hawaii, those jokes were all about Portuguese.

Yes. Which was a weird, like having started out growing up in California and hearing racist jokes, and going to Hawaii, and hearing from Hawaii, and hearing completely different racist jokes. I'm like, the same jokes, but the same joke. But like, huh?

It's like, you know, again, the Polish joke, it became universalized when we were kids, but you know, there was in Belgium, it was Flemish and Waloons. Yeah. There's a Flemish and a Waloon walking on the thing and the bird shits all over the Waloon and the Flemish was like,

oh, do you need a tissue? And the Waloons says, the bird's a mile away by now. Stupid Waloons. Yeah, that kind of shit. So, okay. So, in 1916, self-declared anthropologist and I mean self-declared. Law, and I mean self-declared,

lawyer and pseudoscientific races, Madison Grant published something called the passing of the Great Race or the racial basis of European ancestry. In it, he discussed Nordic superiority. Basically, this is what we were talking about earlier, that Northern Europeans, the quote, Nordic race, were superior to the other quote, races. In the first section, it was all about non-Nordic white passing Europeans coming to the U.S.

Inferior immigrants who were outbreeding the Nordic white folks, the English, the Scottish and the Netherlands, who built this country all on their own by kidnapping and enslaving Africans in their children. And he also saw the migration of black Americans from the South up to the North as another invasion of inferior, which is weird considering what I just said. So hold on. I want to ask a question here. Okay.

Nordics. Yes. I'm going to bet money that amongst the inferior groups would have been the Irish to him, right? Which is weird because the Irish are basically Vikings with funny accents. Yes. Okay. Sorry, carry on.

So he said that the relatively lower birth rate of Mayo man was going to lead to political instability as a result. Okay. Again. Not if white people being born. Right. So democracy is going to be perverted by these people coming over and voting for one party specifically. Okay. And this is 1916. In his book, The Passing of the Great Race.

Okay. Now, it was earlier than that. The Teddy Roosevelt said it was the duty of all American women. So it was the duty of all American women to have more white babies. So four babies, yep. So this is not a new idea, but the communication. But okay. And that popularization in literature that's going to lead

to other fuckery. Now Grant then went on to wax idiotic about the three European races. I'm suspect. Okay. I'm stealing that phrase. You have to, I got a figure out how to use that casual conversation.

Absolutely. He said that there were three European races, the Nordic, the Alpine and the Mediterranean. All I'm gonna guess which one he had the worst shit to say about of the three. And because of none of this makes any goddamn sense, he also managed to link Trojans to the Nordic folk and Spartans to the Prussians.

What? It's so specific. It's so stupid. So, okay. Spartans. Yeah, those are Prussians. Link to the... No. Have you not picked up a history book? No. Like, I mean, okay, you say you said I'm gonna call them, you know, self-appointed. Yeah. Self-declared anthropologist. It's worse than that. Like, I think you buried the lead.

Like, my favorite is the Trojans made their way to where it was really fucking cold from Turkey. It was literally the other way around. The Normans came around and got sunburned. And then stole a bunch of gold and set up a plaremont. And then, you know, and set them so up as... Nobody goes where it's cold on purpose. You always come where it's warmer. See, I'm gonna, I'm gonna argue with you in that one.

If you're leaving from Troy, you are not gonna go and be like, you know what I want. Okay, no. Pures. Okay. But if you're leaving from Norway, you are gonna wind up in Minnesota.

You can go cold to cold. Okay. But you're not can go cold to cold. That's fine, but you're not going to go warm to cold. The only time you do that is if you're a refugee. Now, grant you the Trojans were refugees, but there were plenty of islands on the way to have sparing. They were out of the way. They've laddered a movement that could have made fucking landed in Libya. And the other thing is, have you have you looked at like Trojan, not Trojan, Spartan art?

Have you looked at anything, any of the artifacts of ancient Greece? And you're going to try to tell me, you're going to try to tell me that the Spartans are the Prussians. They're more Alpine. No, they're more Alpine. Prussians are kind of that in between space. Okay. But you're gonna try to, I mean, we're gonna ignore the ludicrousness of this whole three European races I did. But you're gonna like, okay, if I grant you that, right. Now you're gonna have a broad brush. White eggshell tofu.

And you're gonna try to tell me yes that that Greeks Literally from the Peloponesis. Yes Are who are who are as all divine in complexion as as any Prussian as correct Like like I understand that my brother-in-law gets occasionally mistaken for being Italian, even though everybody in his family has been German for generations back to the old country. Like I understand that happens, but no. Just, okay. So, he said, quote, the Nordics all over the world,

Erase of Soldiers, Sailors, Adventurers and Explorers, but above all of rulers, organizers and aristocrats in sharp contrast to the essentially peasant character of the Alpines. Chivalry and Nighthood, and they're still surviving, but greatly impaired counterparts are peculiar peculiarly Nordic traits and feudalism class distinctions and race pride among Europeans are traceable for the most part to the north Oh my dude, you want to hear what he says about the Mediterranean's?

Oh God, of course Oh my dude. You want to hear what he says about the Mediterranean? Oh god. Of course, he's not a racist because he actually thinks that Mediterraneans are smarter and artisticer. This is a standard thing for racist by the way. They'll claim that the Asians are clearly the superior ones. I'm not the top. I'm the second from the top. It's that kind of shit.

He says about the Mediterraneans, quote, the mental characteristics of the Mediterranean race are well known in this race, while inferior in bodily stamina to both the Nordic and the Alpine is probably the superior of both certainly of the Alpines in intellectual attainments. In the field of art, it is superiority to both the other European races is unquestioned. Okay.

Of course, that's only because they fucked with the Nordic folks the other European races is unquestioned. Okay. Of course, that's only because they fucked with the Nordic folks in his weird ass round about way to claim superiority there too, but he literally says, quote, this is the race that gave the world the great civilizations of Egypt, of Crete, of Phoenicia, including Carthage, of Aturia, and of Maesinian grace. It gave us, when mixed and invigorated with Nordic elements, the most splendid of all civilizations, that of the ancient hellas,

and the most enduring of political organizations, the Roman state. To what extent the Mediterranean race entered into the blood and civilization of Rome, it is now difficult to say, but the traditions of the eternal city, its love of organization of law and military efficiency as well as the Roman ideals of family life, loyalty and truth, point clearly to a Nordic rather than a

Mediterranean origin. The Romans had not Mediterraneans. Have you? They're Nordic. Okay. Have you? Okay. That's just traditional. The Romans made fun of people for looking Northern. Well, yeah. But because, I mean, you know, they like everybody else in the way that, you know, anybody who is xenophobic does, they made fun of people who look Nordic and they were also terrified of them.

Right. Like, in equal measure. Bad history on their side. Well, I'm not going to argue, like, you know, how many times those were burned, you know, prior to the Republic, right, or in the early days of the Republic. But like,

it's because the Nordic people came down and had sex with the Mediterranean. That's why Rome is great. Like, let's talk about shooting the arrow and then paying the target around it. There was actual graffiti that said, a good deed for the day, do not show the new senators to where the Senate House is.

Another one said, and these were right next to each other, Caesar, what was it? He encouraged the Gauls. Caesar went to Gaul and conquered them, and then he brought Gauls down, and they traded in their girly boy pants for Togas, for the Manly Toga, and now they're senators. Which is its own thing.

Oh, it's hilarious. But like, the graffiti of the time was, these are interlopers. Yeah, yeah. They don't belong here. They're interlopers, they're idiots. Yes. They don't belong here.

Right. Yeah. Well, and, and. But it's because of their awesome Nordic sperm. Okay. That Rome became great. So here's the thing. What he has to overlook

in order for this theory to work. It's literally all of history. It's literally all of European history. Literally all of, I was about to say before the Renaissance, but no, literally all, since the Renaissance, literally all of it, because let's talk about the eternal city. And let's talk about the fact that, you know, after World War One, Mussolini said he was going to make the Italian people great by kicking their ass.

Like he was going to force them to be great because they didn't want to be. Right. Like Rome, the eternal city. No. Right. Like no. You got temporary history. Yes. Your own lifetime proved that to be bullshit. Yeah. Now, this is written before that. Well, you know, but but look at what the state of Italy was at the time you was writing. Exactly. Like it wasn't even a unified country. I was gonna say it's not a state. Yeah. And, and, you know, look at, no, you're confusing, and the other thing is, I'm sure he would have waxed, waxed epic

about, you know, the Anglo-Saxon race. Probably would have argued that the Anglo-Saxon race was somehow Nordic. Motherfucker, they were conquered by the Normans. Yeah. They were ruled by the Normans. Yeah. They were ruled by an alien aristocracy who were Norman for how many hundreds of years, and all of your chivalry bullshit, by the way, comes from a small group of Viking descendants. Yeah.

Who, you know, that idea became viral across Western Europe because, you know, feudalism is a thing. Yeah. But like you, you, you, you wanna try to talk about a race of people as this, you know, Shivalric, you know, conquering group. Motherfucker, the English. This is, this is, this is the mythic,

why do them sell? This is the mythic origin of a race that leans itself to fascism. Because remember at this point it's 1916 that he writes this. Yeah. Fascism doesn't exist yet, but fascism won't exist. The futurists are all being liberated on the battlefields of Europe. But the fascism cannot exist without this kind of mythologization of the past. You have to have a racial mythology. Because otherwise, what is the tradition that you're trying to revivify?

What is the stock of people that have been held down by outsiders? You can't have fascism grow without those two things being a part of it. I'm not saying this is the only ingredient. So in Mussolini's theory then, because Mussolini didn't give a shit about like your racial makeup color, your skin,

you were a citizen of the state, you were going to serve the state. He cared about the Italian identity. Okay, he absolutely did. Okay, so Italian identity. Or if he absolutely did. Okay, so Italian identity. Or if he didn't care about it, he utilized it as he would find for us. He utilized it, okay.

Okay. Okay. So maybe it doesn't have to be racial, but it has to be national identitarian. There you go. Okay. Yes. And then, but racial makes that,

racial is the easy button for that. It is, and frankly, Mussol but but racial makes that it racial is the easy button It is and frankly Mussolini absolutely did use that okay. He did use racial it's okay And there was a lot of anti-Semitism in Italy There there are phases Okay, wherein you back off of the anti-Semitism for a bit and then you push hard with it Okay, it's this ebb and flow to make a fascist thing work and the fact that I know how to make this shit work means I've been reading way too much about it.

So any time this guy whose name I've forgotten, oh Grant, there you go. Any time Grant found evidence of those praiseworthy aspects of humanity, it's because people had sex with Nordic people. That's why. They interpret with the Nordic people, which means the Nordic people are being depleted as a race. Their greatness is going into all these other passing for white groups, and they're not truly white.

This is the foundational racism of eugenics. And this dumb shit was such a hit. People loved this book. And it was a inspirational book to shitty fuck wads everywhere in the world. This includes a certain traitor to Germany sitting in Landsberg prison, ghost writing his polemic memoir on racism and fanboying out over Henry Ford. Hitler wrote a letter to Grant personally to thank him, referring to this book as quote, my Bible. Himmler, himmler clearly had read it when he set up the Labans' round society, or I'm sorry, the Labans' born born society in order to preserve the blonde and blue whites through selective breeding.

Right. They're pulling from grant. Again, American shit exports to Germany to turn into Nazism. And okay, and so the funny thing here that occurs to me right now about all this is anybody who's ever spent any time in animal husbandry? We'll tell you that this idea of depletion right is utter bullshit. Yes hybrid vigor

Is a thing? Oh a mutt is a much safer and healthier animal than any purebred dog. Yes. Like, like German shepherds hit problems. Largely because of the way that we breed them over here. They were bred specifically for that look, which is a dumb fucking look. That's why most of the police dogs come from actual check or check

Republic and their Germany. Yeah, but but you get what I'm saying. I totally I had a pug. Yeah, for 14 years. This is true. And love him though I did. No animals should be bred like that. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I mean, you know, again, temperament and cuteness is wonderful. And it was 14 years that I absolutely loved. But the health issues and the benefits. Yeah, and again, I took really good care of him, but a month will survive in the wild so much better. Oh, so we got a bug.

Well, and if you take a domestic dog, and you let it breed with wolves, right, their pups will survive better than either one of its parents. Yeah. And it turns out. So again, this idea of depletion, like if you study life science at all. Right. You know it's bullshit.

Keep in mind, this is only 1916. So this is only 66 years since Darwin's origin of species. You still have Lamarck leaving his mark, as it were, and public school is a really new concept. You may be okay, granted. Now, having said that. But half the population lives on a farm still. Right.

So you only get to like third to fifth grade anyway. Well, but but also you're you're much more closely dealing with livestock. Yeah, but not Jews. Yeah, all right. Like, all right. All right. All right. So now Henry Ford unsurprisingly was also a big fan of eugenics. Of course. Of course. He was a proponent. He never saw a bad idea. I don't fucking love. All right. He was a proponent of the race horse a bad idea. I'm fucking alive. All right.

He was a proponent of the race horse theory, which is the belief that you should breed certain people together for certain attitudes, aptitudes, and abilities. A burgeoning real estate developer in the 1920s was also a big believer in this theory as well. And Todd is children the same. His name was Fred Trump.

Yeah. Now in mind, Comf. So wait, yeah. So wait, hold on. Hold on. So Fred Trump. Todd in mine comp and so wait hold on so Fred Trump taught his kids. You take people take people for their strengths, breathe them together. Yes, right? Yep. Does Donald Trump actually think he has cheekbones like that that that need to be perfected because he keeps going after models. Right. Well that's because he's a pig of human though. Well I understand. He's not looking at physical race horse breeding. He's looking at mental race because he's got good brain. Yeah. Yeah. Best brain.

Yeah. Oh, now I'm going to get to that later. The best words. Yeah. So in mind, Comp and in other writings, Hitler noted that the American system of dealing with indigenous peoples was highly effective in dealing with clearing a group out to get Labans row. The living space that he claimed that Aryan Nordic stock needed to come from a frontier oriented genocide. And he looked to America and was like, oh, okay. And Henry Ford living in Michigan was absolutely in that area

where a frontier-oriented genocide had been perpetrated and was probably most assuredly in the cultural Iker for Henry Ford. Well, yeah. Growing up in the second half of the 19th century, especially, and having very little experience with other groups other than to see them as others who were weakening his narrowed idealized view of society. Now Hitler copied US policies toward indigenous peoples and toward eugenics. And when the US tried to make eugenics national policy, Hitler took them to their logical and grotesque endpoints.

This was also a hell of a proto-model for anti-Semitic ethnic cleansing and genocide. In 1928, Hitler even marveled at how Americans had, quote, gunned down the millions of redskins to a few hundred thousand. And when he spoke of Labansraum, the German drive for living space in Eastern Europe, he often had America in mind. He was also a huge fan of German novels that took on the American West, by the way. He loved German Western young adult novels.

So America exported a more vibrant anti-Semitism to Germany than what they had. And we exported already pretty gross. And we exported a more vibrant idea of ethnic cleansing and genocide and white supremacy to Germany than they could see from Russia. And those were American chickens finding another home in which to roost. Okay. And next, in our next episode, I'll finally tie that all back to square dancing. Wow. But we gotta stop there.

Yeah. For time. So, do you want to tell me, Gleander, have you been Gleening all the way? I've been Gleening have you been gleaning all the way? I've been gleaning all the way. Number one, seeing the chain so clearly delineated is sobering. It's gonna make you real sad when you get to dancing. I'm sure it is, I'm sure it is. And also,

I'm sure it is. And also, the absolute whack of doodle, like, like, extent, that people will go to in order to believe in and. Bad ideas. Yeah. Like, and it's not even like leaving leaving the moral aspect of a side Because I'm white and I can get away with doing that for a minute to make this purely, you know Philosophical argument, but but you know committing that act of privilege like it's just bad thinking. Yes, like it's just bad thinking. Yes. It's just shitty logic. What's, and bringing back in the whole idea of human compassion and fucking morality for a moment, that just makes it even worse. But even if you had no capacity for empathy at all,

which plenty of these folks that we've been talking about had limited at best capacity for that. But just looking at the thought processes involved, it's like how many different ways are you leaning into a cognitive bias? So many. How many different ways are you actively overlooking deeply, like obviously flawed logic? Yes, obviously flawed logic. But that's why you need the mythic past. If you don't have the mythic past, people cannot just hang on to obviously flawed logic,

but if you have the mythic past, that tickles your intuition, that tickles that emotional center, that warm and fuzzy that you get being tied to your ancestors and their land, whatever the fuck that means. Okay. That enables all of that. All the rest of it. Yeah, you know,

and here's the thing, I think it would be a lot healthier for people, period, but especially white people to understand, unless you are actually living a life of inherited wealth. Your ancestors were peasants. In a place that they wanted you as their descendant to get the fuck out of. Usually, yeah. You, you as anybody living anywhere in the modern world, unless you are living destitute on the street. And even then, maybe the life that you are living now is the culmination of everything your ancestors would have

wished for. Yes. Think about the fact that in our society right now people who cannot Support themselves can go to a shelter and they will eat meat Mm-hmm on a daily basis. Yeah Because of the wealth of the society we're living in right now. Yes. Your ancestors did not have some Mystical connection to the land that they were living on. Oh, yeah. Okay, they wanted to get the fuck out.

They didn't want to have to be grinding in the dirt for their survival. Right. And, and you're doing them a disservice by trying to sanitize and romanticize their lived experience. And you're doing yourself a disservice. You're doing yourself a disservice. Now, I mean, it's one thing to be proud of where your family came from. And it could be another way of reframing it.

I think a healthier way of reframing it is, yeah, you know what, my family lived on the border between England and Scotland. And when those two countries went to war, they looked at their neighbors and said, which side are they fighting for? Right. We're fighting for the other one. Because fuck them. Right. And you know what? Couple of my ancestors said, fuck this.

I'm getting on a ship and I'm leaving because I don't want to deal with this anymore. That's a victory. And they brought that prejudice with them. I mean, they did, yeah. Yeah, as as friend of the show Gabriel Cruz said, you know, progress is a series of problematic steps forward. Yeah. So yeah, but yeah, I totally get you. You know, you know, the fact that we are as fat as we are,

is a victory for the ancestors that I have who were hunting squirrel. In the part, recent ancestors, and for that matter of mine who fled the dust bowl, it's nuts that we feel like we have to mythologize our our roots in the way that we do and i say this is a guy who goes to highland games right you know but like we don't we don't we don't need to mythologize it we don't we don't

we don't need to attach some mystical meaning to it well i think that's a lot of why history repeats itself, though, is because people do mythologize it. And the result is we fall into those same patterns and those same tropes. Yep. Same the traps. Yeah. Well, what you're reading?

Well, I'm not reading it right now, but I'm going to very strongly recommend Guns, Germs, and Steel by Jared Diamond because something you said earlier in the episode twigged on it because Grant wanted to try to find a genetic explanation for why it is that white people run the world. And as you said, have, you know, a to who thrive in the narrowest set of circumstances, have created a world where we can go safely anywhere. Right. And Grant would have explained it as well. Clearly, there's something just innately superior going on.

And Jared Diamond, in the prologue to his book, he was, I don't remember what NGO he was working for, but he was in either Indonesia or Malaysia. And he was working with somebody who was local. And they got to be very good friends, and they spent a lot of time walking on the beach and talking, and on one particular evening, his friend, without any malice, or without any kind of resentment or anything, and his voice said, I wonder why it is, that people who look like you wound up making decisions in the world for people like me.

And having the question put that bluntly to him and that openly to him pushed Diamond to go and say like, okay, no, seriously, like, how did that happen? Yeah. And so he went and he looked at the historical development of how exactly it is that European people wound up being the ones who built empires. And it's a fascinating read. And he manages to find and answer that is plausible, that does not wind up leaning on any kind of idea of anybody being an at least superior to anybody else. It's good.

It's rooted in geography. I was just the whole, they kept the pigs inside thing. I kept the pigs inside and resources that were available to them. And natural topography, meaning they were constantly fighting each other over shit, meaning. It's like why am I union so much stronger than yours is because it has to be.

Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. And so, I mean, some of the stuff, as just from what you just said, it's clear that some of the stuff that's in his book has now become kind of tropey within historical circles. But it's still, I think, an eye-opening read for anybody who kind of needs, if you need a counter to somebody making grant like arguments. It's a good thing to have in your back pocket to be like, you know, it's geography. It's not anything racially superior about anybody. It's circumstances.

And so anyway, I highly recommend it. It's a very good read. He also had another book called The Tipping Point. I want to say it was the tipping point that was about decisions that societies made that wound up either being very successful or being in intensely self-destructive and the forces that led to those decisions getting made and how how that stuff happened But anyway, so that's that's my recommendation even though I read it ages ago How about you? I'm going to recommend a documentary on Amazon Prime that I've seen years ago called Eugenics. Science is greatest scandal.

OK. Really good. It's an older documentary. I think it comes from like 77. And it's been updated since then. Or I'm misremembering the title. and I'm sending you to a more recent one. Either way, I think that would be a pretty good place to start if you want to take a look at Eugenics. And then other than that, you could look up Edwin Blacks book The War Against the Week.

Eugenics in America's campaign to create a master race. So it'll kind of get back to what we're talking about. So let's see. Let me guess they can find you on TikTok. Yes. TikTok I can be found at Mr. underscore Blalock on Twitter. I can be found as eHBlalock.

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Daharmony one, okay there. There you go. Very cool. Well, we are almost there. The next episode will be the final Go Home episode on Square Dancing and what have you and pull it all together, hopefully. All right. Until then, I am speaking for a UK history of time. I'm Gamin Harmony.

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