A Geek History of Time - Episode 185 - V the Leftist Allegory Turned Fascist Dogwhistle Part VII

Episode Date: November 19, 2022

So first thing foremost, I think being the addition of pant leggings is really when you start to see your heroes get watered down. The ability to go straight man, that one. Which is a good argument for absolute girls. Everybody is going to get behind me though, and the support numbers will go through. When you hang out with the hero, it doesn't go well for you. Grandfather took the cob and just slid it right through the bar. Oh god, I'm sorry. Okay.

And that became the dominant way our family did it. Okay. And so, both of my marriages, they were treated to that. Okay, wait, hold on. Yeah, rage, I could. How do you imagine the rubber chicken? My grandmother actually vacuumed in her pearls. Oh my god, it always looks like.

We had the sexual revolution. It might have just been a Canadian standoff. We're gonna go back to 9-11. Oh, I'm gonna get over it. And I don't understand the book, it's a school. Agra has no business being that big. With the cultists's wind wheel. This is a cute free of heart. Well, we connect our degree to the real world.

My name is Ed Leroy, I'm a World History and English teacher here in London. I'm a California, I'm at the middle school. And earlier today, my wife unintentionally revealed to me how much of a geek she actually was before long before we met. When she sent me a link to something on my phone and she said, I really want to get this. And I heard her say that. I'm like, well, okay, when you can't see me come through on my phone, so she recented it. And it was a link to the Nintendo website for the Spyro, the Dragon, Spyro reignited game bundle for the Nintendo Switch. You wouldn't know it to look at her, but my wife has some video games that she truly loved as a kid.

And these were apparently among them. And so we actually, I had to spend a certain amount of time jumping through oops, in order to download them. Nintendo of America, if you're listening to this, the user interface to download anything from the online store on the switch docs and you need to fix it. But with that said, it was totally worth the heartburn involved to get things set up to see the grin on her face and hear her gitty tackling as she got to start playing

Spyro the Dragon on our Switch this afternoon, which was really nice because she's she's been ill this week she's She she has asthma and that means that in time she gets cold, it gravitates to her chest, basically instantly. And this time around, we're pretty sure she actually got medical attention just in time to prevent really serious walking pneumonia. But so she's been laid up. And so seeing her getting to have something that made her that happy was was a wonderful moment. So yeah. And and again, like I said about my own illness,

I think a couple of episodes ago, everybody's been tested, everybody's negative for COVID, that's not anything going on, just to delay anybody's concerns, but yeah, so she got to restart a video game that she played when she was probably 13 or 14. And I haven't said anything to her about it, but there's a part of me. It's like, you told me when we met, you weren't a nerd like me, but you are, you're part of the tribe, whether you like it or not. So anyway, that's my heartwarming moment. One of us, one of us. How about you? Well, I'm Damien Harmony. I'm a high school US history and Latin teacher up here in Northern California. And my big news this week is that some friends of mine from Alaska, who moved down here a while back, they got a house. And they're very cool. Yeah, and they expected to like have to look for a while because the market was doing wacky things. But they actually found a house, a good acreage like it's like the Dorothy of Puente House.

It's got good bones. Okay. So it's, it's, there you go. it's, it's, here you go. Take a second for that. It didn't drop. For those of you who are not familiar with, with Northern California, legend, Dorothy, I went to was a serial killer, um, uh, who's, who's back yard, uh, contain the bones of, I don't remember how many of her lodgers. Many. You have a great many. So yeah, good bone. I want to say it was double digits. So yeah, I'm pretty sure you're right. Yeah. So anyway, carry on. Sorry. Yeah. No, it's fine. So they've

got a nice house. My girlfriend and I, we went and had dinner with them at their new lodgings. And it was, it was just really neat to see. It's similar to the joy I had about saying you guys move into your place. Yeah. Well, I'm, I don't even know them. And I'm happy for them. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's really neat. So I'm, I'm, I'm happy.

I'm very happy. Okay. And so of course, you know, you go to someone's house, you bring a gift, right? First time. So, my partner, she said, well, what should I bring? I'm like, you have thousands of succulents

that you're always looking to re-home. People need green in their house. There you go. Brought succulents over. That's good. It was very well-liked. That's good. My gift did not arrive until the next day.

And so I just get a text, oh my god, this is amazing. And then they sent me a picture as well. And I'd ordered them Starfleet coasters. So. Okay. Nice. Yeah. So hopefully actually I will have my friend John on this show to explain to us the baseball

strike of 1995. Oh, cool. That's a point. Cool. Yeah, very cool. All right. Nice. But in the meantime, I got new friends in town.

So I'm very. Very cool. Yeah. So when last we spoke, I, I only got three pages further along by the way with all of that. Nobody pantry actually. It's pretty. It's just. All right. Yeah. And and you need it.

You I ended with that final quote by the, uh, of out communist Lindsey Graham. Um, Um, yes, yes, that, that pillar of Marxist thought. Yes. Yeah. Uh, Trotsky and Trotsky, I, Lindsey Graham. Trotsky and hot pants. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no me in hot pants. No, not a Communeau anarchist. Lindsey Graham. Yeah. From South Carolina.

Yeah. So, but you know, most of the episode had very little to do with V. Other than the fact that this wacky shit was happening right around the same time V came out. Yeah. And so I finished with asking, what does all this have to do with V to an in next week, right? Well, here we have this next week.

And in the style of the TV show. Yeah. So here's what all of this had to do with V. Okay. You talked about how people would give themselves permission to believe in the K-Fabe that Obama's not one of us. He's a Kenyan, right?

Yeah. And at the same time, you cannot deny how slick he is. And you cannot deny that he wanted universal healthcare. And you cannot deny how media savvy he was. And you cannot deny that he continually makes that claim that he is one of us. And yet, people insist that he is not one of us. Yeah. It's very clearly because Obama is a lizard person. Oh no. Oh yes. Oh no. No. No. No.

No. You're not bringing up the British guy. What's his name? Ix. Oh no. But to get there. God, I there's not enough fear in the world. Well, we're gonna have to Ike's. Oh no. But to get there, God, I there's not enough fear in the world. Well, we're going to have to, you know, so no. Okay. So yeah, most of this will be why Obama is a lizard person. And I was I have been so depressed after writing this podcast that I haven't written any more content for either my classroom lectures or for this podcast. Like, that's how depressing this was. We are going to need to do a palette cleanser of like the best sidekicks or another episode of villains who weren't.

Villains who weren't or or assigning Hogwarts houses to people. Yeah. I don't want to do that anymore. But well, I mean, people. Yeah, I don't want to do that anymore. But well, I mean, he's sadly fluffy. Yeah, that's that's been ruined. Yeah, you know, we could we could arrange another drunk folk and have a guest with us this time. Oh, I like this idea. I like this. All right. No, there's something that like, you think there's good in the world. Yeah. So that I can finally do my magnum opus to the opioid crisis. Oh, let's just not ever do that. Let's-

We're going to- Well, the sake of you as a friend, I urge you, no. I know, but it ties way too neatly into being human. Oh, God. I don't like it either. I really don't. God damn, I wish this was for money. Yeah. So, so Obama is a tool for monetizing this to make it worth the psychic drama or separate. Okay. So,

Obama is a bad person. If you want to talk about lizard people, we have to go back to kind of the or lizard person creator, Robert E Howard. I should really do a podcast on him sometime. Oh fuck you. You should do. Virtually in my house. All right. Oh wow. Really. So this guy might have had some important stuff as a literary figure. I think you know what? I'm turning video off because I can't look at you right now. Just returning rhetoric, rhetoric as I laugh. Jesus God. better it's I laugh. Jesus God. So you, you, you have nothing but audacity right now in this moment.

I certainly don't have oxygen, Jesus. I'm hurting. Well, then have the breath you deserve, sir. Anyway, Robert E Howard wrote the chat. I should do a podcast on this. Screw you. It deserves a deep dive, I think. I just. But by all means, please enlighten me about Robert E Howard. Yeah. So he was, he joined the Navy and wrote

Starship Troopers and I'm gonna risk through the screen. God help me. He had Kody and go to a desert planet and yeah, something with a Regino. I don't remember. So he did write the Shadow Kingdom in August of 1929. It was the first of the call series. Okay. Call is a new territory. Yeah. Call is a barbarian from Atlantis and he's invited by the Picts who are ancient enemies

of the Atlanteans to a feast by Kahnu the ancient. He call is supposed to be assassinated that night in his chambers, but he escapes and foils the attempt, which is made by Chief Counselor 2 to you. But it turns out it's not actually two, it's a false two. Two is an imposter. He's really one of the serpent men. And this is whom Cole vows to hunt down and destroy for good. So, serpent men impersonating people in high up positions, seeking to destroy the rightful and manly rulers of the realm. Quote,

After all, the priests of the serpent went a step further in their magic for all men wore masks and many a different mask with each different man or woman, and Cole wondered if a serpent did not lurk under every mask. Yep, so this is the first that we have of lizard type people, serpent men. And of course, because Howard and Lovecraft and Clark Ashton Smith were pals, they helped Lovecraft to develop the very basis for Cthulhu based on the serpent man. Okay. Yeah. In the 1940s, Mike Maurice Doryal,

whose real name was Claude Dawgons, he wrote a pamphlet called the mysteries of the goby. And in it, he described a race of snake men, calling them a serpent race, with bodies like a man but heads like a great snake. Who could take human form? They show up again in his poem, The Emerald Tablets, which is similar to the couple on the East Coast, who first saw the grays after the episode of our outer limits came out, because he seems to have read his Howard or Heinlein at the Serpent Kingdom story. There's so many similarities though. What between Howard and Heinlein?

No, no, no, between his poem, the Emerald Tablets and the descriptions of the Serpent Man by Howard. So now, but this guy with the very creative pseudonym because who wants to be last named doggins. He was writing this as fiction. It's a good question. He wasn't, so he goes by the name Dorial.

So I'm gonna call him that. Okay, Dorial reasons. Yeah, more or maybe to do otherwise. Certainly, certainly. He wasn't what I'd call call him that. Okay, do you have any reasons? Yeah, more or maybe to do otherwise. Certainly, certainly. He wasn't what I'd call bat shit crazy. Because I think that's ultimately an insult to Guano and its stability. Okay, he's,

Oh dear, he's living, that doesn't bowed well. No, no, because he's living in a made up world that absolutely culturally appropriates and And others anything that he perceives as eastern. He's an Orientalist. Oh No Okay, he was born in the Oklahoma Oklahoma territory in 1902 He was the youngest of six kids and his father Thomas was a farmer and laborer All to Bell his mom

Didn't have an occupation list that I dove deep on this guy. And it could be that keeping six kids alive would have been her occupation. Yeah. Dorial, at the time called Claude Dawgins again, he moved with his family to Wichita, Kansas, and he and his dad were listed as city landscapers.

Okay. He didn't get past elementary schooling, although to be fair, most of America didn't get past elementary schooling, although to be fair, most of America didn't get past elementary schooling back then. Yeah. And at 25, so he's born in 1902, it's 1927. Doggins married Ruth Proctor, age 20, and about to ceremony. And what's interesting is his name goes from dog ends to Dodgen. Hmm, I know. That was interesting. And print being what it was and accuracy, not necessarily being the most important thing

to get out the daily special. But Dodgen married Ruth Proctor, who's five years is younger. They had a son and a daughter by 1930, which was recorded in the census in Wichita. By 1932, they were divorced at a time that you don't divorce often. And by 1933, he was remarried to Margaret Chadwell, and they moved to Los Angeles and by 1937 he was divorced again. Oh yes. Now the census of 1940 had enlisted as living in Bankroft, Colorado and this census was given by his third wife Sonia, which is pretty normal, I guess, until you ask him about

any of it. So buckle in because this is going to be a ride. Um, when he was known as Maurice Doria, he claimed both Choctaw Heritage and Service with the US Army Signal Corps. Neither of these things is verifiable, though his education ended by fifth grade, according to Doria all himself, he had his first encounter with an ascended master at age 3 and another at age 12. So don't worry about the formal education, he's gotta send the message. Oh dear. Okay. Yeah, Dory all also said that he'd retained the experiences of previous incarnations, so well that he didn't need to be taught anything by the time he emerged as Claude D. Dodgin. to be taught anything by the time he emerged as Claude D. Dodgin. Here's a quote.

When I was born into this life, I had a full and complete memory of my past lives and incarnations. And I never had to study over again, the forgotten things that most of us do. I did not have to learn to read and write. I did not have to learn mathematics or physics or chemistry or anything else because in the past past I had acquired that knowledge and had retained my attainments of the past, which is pretty cool considering what a low profile

he kept. It was nice of him. Still, in 1925, he did receive a supernatural invitation to Calcutta where he was then guided to Darjeeling and from there to secret underground kingdom and Tibet where the ascended masters and quote great adepts had their headquarters, which is pretty good for a city landscaper of Wichita. Okay, so quick, quick question. Sure. So he was born in 02. Yes, sir. He was born in 02. Yes, sir. And he's saying all this this quote

Mm-hmm. That you're that you're quoting from was taken when I Think it's in the late 30s early 40s. Late 30s. Okay So he's speaking so Okay, so he was he was too young to have been So he was too young to have been drafted for World War I. Right. He could have lied about his age like so many other authors. Okay. But he did not. But I'm hearing a lot of stuff that is very clearly influenced by the mysticism and kind of roto-counter culture that existed post-World War One.

Yeah, I mean, a lot of people think it was like that up or like- It was the rebirth of mediums and shit. Remember, like, after the Civil War, it got real big. Yeah, and after World War One, it got real big. And I'm trying to remember, but this is also a period of time when the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn Yates and Aleister Crowley It's that stuff is going on if I'm yeah, and and and Zertha Conan Doyle had been doing stuff. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, okay

So it's pretty neat that despite all of this vast knowledge, he kept a low profile still in 1925. Oh yeah. Oh no, he said that. So he spends three years studying from 1925 to 28, I guess learning everything that he needed in order to become the anointed representative of the great white lodge and to set up the brotherhood of the white temple. He didn't do any of this. He's saying the quiet part out loud with that, didn't he? And here's the thing. What's so cool about him is that, you know, him going from Calcutta to Darjeeling to

the underground to Beton kingdom and all of that and all of that studying, he didn't have to do it on the physical plane. At all. His passport lacks the required stampage to show such travels actually. He did all of this astral leaf. Yes. Well, I mean, duh. I mean, I don't know what the time conversion is when you go from physical to astral either. So it could be that a mere three years that he spent were actually 99 to the rest of us. I don't know. It's yeah, it's possible. So there weren't any complaints in which to talk about his landscaping at the time. So okay, well good. Yeah. So just as a question

because of the time period when he was making these claims. Yes. Does the context of him making these claims lead you to believe this was all a grift or was he in fact drinking his own coolade? I mean, they're not mutually exclusive. I think you get what I'm trying to ask. Yeah, for a good drift to work, you need to believe you're on K-Pay. I think, I'll put it this way.

I think that his wife didn't buy into it. Okay, because they divorced. Yeah. I also think that he wasn't very good at it because they divorced. There enough. So, and despite the fact that he's an anointed something or other during his first marriage. Yeah. Great. Booba. Yeah. Dodgen worked as a clerk, a cab driver, and a salesman for the Kansas brokerage company. And later as a department store salesman.

as brokerage company, and later as a department store salesman. Now, he and his first wife Ruth divorced. She took another husband who adopted his kids as their own and raised them in a very sadly normal life. Meanwhile, Claude was listed in a 1933 Oklahoma directory in 1933 as the president of the brotherhood of the white temple and his second marriage license also lists his name as Dodgen. Now in LA his problems were multiple his wife called him out for adultery in court for their divorce which there was no no fault divorce back then so yeah you have a reason yeah and he complained that she denounced him in front of his disciples. So clearly their differences are irreconcilable. In the 1940 census report that his third wife filled out, Sonia, Dr. CD Dodgen was described as a traveling minister who had been, quote, a transient across

country, no place of residence and had somehow found the time to get four years of college learning in. The Brotherhood of the White Temple was officially incorporated in Denver on April 11, 1942 as a religious organization whose stated goal was, quote, to impart religious instruction to its members and to all the others who may be interested in its doctrines and teachings. He was one of the three founders. Hey, yeah. Now from there, he begins to publish, so to speak, the brotherhood of the... Yeah, okay. Word to the speaker, I love that. Yeah, okay.

The brotherhood of the White Temple started sending out stapled, type, cheap paper booklets written by Maurice Dory-All, Dr. Dory-All, or simply Dory-All. It didn't take much creativity as he'd simply transcribed the work that he channeled from the denizens of Atlantis, like you do. So it's, you know, obviously. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, why not? You have this whole astral staff, you might as well. Yeah, nox and bodice down on it. Yeah. Yeah. Dory-Aul's booklets divided into two lines, essentially. One was an informational series for the general public, which was available at an individual cost of between $0.25 to $1, which outlined various SOT-eric beliefs.

Okay, wait a minute. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Did I bury you? 1940, what now? 42. He's charging between $25 and a dollar in 1942. Yeah well that's that's I mean I don't know strict strict you know I mean he's got the market cornered on channeled Atlantean text, I think is that. Yeah, I really want to know at that price, helicopter, he sold like, I would like to know that too. Because 25 cents could buy you a pretty good meal.

It could. At that time, that's dinner out. Mm-hmm. That's at least two and a half hours of work too. Yeah, like holy shit. Okay. Or you could buy a teaching series that was designed for neo-fights

and enrolled paying students of the Brotherhoods Correspondence School. So there's a couple ways you could go. You could do the Correspondence School. Okay. Yeah. No notes. Yeah.

Oh, it's okay. All right. And this Correspondence School seems patterned after the ancient mystical order, Rhocai Kai crew keys, which was started by Harvey Spencer Lewis, also known as Sarr Alden in 1915. Do you mean the Rosicruzians? What was the mystical order, Rho'sai crew keys? Cruces. Cruces.

Yeah. It is different. Okay, all right. Yeah. Yeah, Doriel also seemed to directly channel or play dry as I like. Yeah, astral plagiarism. Depending on your definitions, he seemed to directly channel Helena Blavotsky. Madame Blavotsky, you know her? Yeah, I'm familiar with the name.

She's the founder of Theosophy. Yeah, yeah, and she is, oh my God, she's like, I don't like to advertise other podcasts that we haven't had the guests song yet. But there was just like a three part series over on, um, uh, behind the bastards about Madame Blavotsky. She is something. Yeah, she is. Okay. Now, in mysteries of the goby, Doryal explained that,

quote, gobyans, unquote, were the real Hebrews who became priests to the Jews, but they were not Jews themselves because, quote, Jesus was not of the Jewish race. No, God, Jesus was not of the Jewish race. No, God. But he was. He was. He was descended from the gobyans who all had fair skin, blue eyes, and red or blonde hair.

There's this. I can't form words. There's this whole fucking weird thing that happens where it's this I can't form words. There's this whole fucking weird thing that happens where it's this arianization of things and it's okay that it's arian because they they came down from above Mongolia down through the gobi desert to where arian are in India and that's really the Jesus. So yeah, so what what I find What I find interesting Interesting is the word I'm going to use because I don't know I don't know how to sin an imp

Weird would be the other word for it is is all of all of these all of these these conspiracy theories that put forward this idea of white people coming out of Mongolia. Right. Right. And they are legion. What is truly mind bending to me is that they, when they came up with these ideas, when these, when these, when these things were thought up, it was, well, you know, maybe they came from, you know, this part of the Orient, because we're essentially Orientalist. Yes. You know, and, and we have, we have this weird exoticization of that part of the world. But it's very... Yeah, but also anti-Semitic. It has to be anti-Semitic. And we know nothing about, you know, because this is this howling wilderness part of the world, right?

Sure. Even though there's hell of people there. There's hell of people there, yeah. But to the perception of the people writing this shit, it's this empty vast wasteland. The thing is in northern China, Mongolia, like these folks fell backwards into a compelling historical fact, which is that sometime during the very, very early Iron Age, if I'm remembering correctly, there was some fair-haired population of people, the ancestors of the Scythians basically, that we've found

their mummies in that part of the world. And it's like, because you were trying to be racist or you were trying to justify your racism, you stumbled backwards into an actual fascinating, you know, clue to human migration and, you know, cultural history. And the worst part of it is that because of that yeah, those discoveries then legitimize the rest of their bullshit Right that becomes the in many ways. I don't think they fell over backwards so much as they found the one thing and clung so hard to that That they built everything around it Okay, fair. It was the kernel around which they built rest of the popcorn so okay So Doriel really got into the idea of nuclear things in the 1940s, like you do, but not because of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

It was because of an experience years prior to the advent of nuclear weapons. You see, he says, quote, I saw atomic energy at work several years ago when the Dalai Lama of Tibet ushered me into the great white lodge, 75 miles below the Himalayas. Okay, yeah, continue. Yeah, I'm, I'm intrigued. Carry on. You have my attention. In 1948, it was clear to Doryal that the serpent people had replaced Joseph Stalin and, quote, now the Supreme Council of the Soviet is controlled by beings far wiser than they appear. And then he began to advertise his Aashram and Colorado for nuclear survival. For just $500, you could buy your way in. And if nuclear war didn't actually hit, Dorial said that the

community could become a summer resort. So it's a win-win situation. that the community could become a summer resort. So it's a win-win situation. Okay. So the ashram grew to about 800 people, as one would expect. What? I love wait. This is video for us. What? 800 people? Yeah. This, this, this, un-unroasted wingnut. Like, I, I, I, I, ascended master, but he closed an office. No, no, no, no, I'm sorry, no, no. No, do you, do you have documentation?

Is there an apostolic history with documentation? I'm Catholic for fuck's sake. I didn't have the 25 cents to buy the pamphlet, so I don't know. Well, okay, no. It could have been. You, you, you as you so loved to point out, or even younger than me,

so it wouldn't have been 25 cents by the time you'd have been buying it. That's a good point. It had been like 12 bucks. Yeah. So, that's true. No. So they all stop talking to the press in 1953, which is totally normal and okay. The voice, according to Dory Al, has issued orders that no outsiders are permitted to enter the valley except necessary workmen. So, he said that in 1953?

Yes. And we know that they started stockpiling weapons at what point in 1952? So, the Goby pamphlet, as well. Because we've seen this pattern before and it doesn't end well. No, no, okay. So the Goby pamphlet as we've seen this pattern before and it doesn't end well. No, no, it doesn't. Okay.

So the goby pamphlet as well as the emerald tablet stuff, it's a fun, easy read. It's also deeply racist, orientalist and filled with all the mumbo jumbo that you'd expect of a mysticism-based guy from the 1940s who ran his own temple. Yeah. In it, thoth, the Atlantic, the Atlantean priest king, tells how he ruled and whatnot, which is totally a ripoff of Howard Serpent race in their history. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yep. In May of 1982, so we're going to fast forward just a little bit. Oh, no. John Millius' Conan the Barbarian released into theaters.

Yes. Which featured false sedume. The snake priest who had changed his shape and was in charge and seduced royal children and ran one hell of a cult. Yeah. A year later, I'm actually gonna say, yeah, like, a cult clothes, you know, some very gender-fluid people that, you know, unfortunately they were priests

So it was kind of pushing that button, but you know that pretty cool, you know Really cool iconography nice her old tree, you know, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, new new New yeah, new you know to put the program together. Yeah so that That that shot that movie came out almost to the day one year before the The Miniseries came out, which was all about Reptillion people who saw it a fascist lizard Nazi takeover of the rest of us. Are you seeing a pattern?

Yeah. Yeah. That poem about thoth, which is called the Emerald tablets, which I read, which reinforced my dislike of poetry. Thank you for doing that. So the rest of us don't have to. You're welcome. Oh, the lists that I'm probably on now. Oh, come on. You've been on those with research. You've also tried cast you've been on those lists for a while. No, no, no. Yeah. That was the basis for David Ike's book.

Ike, Ike, Ike, I think it's Ike. I think it's okay. Um, anyway, I'm going to say Ike because my friend who came to pick up speeches, she told me it was Ike. I believe, um, anyway, David Ike's book, Children of the Matrix, which he'd finished in 2001. David, oh, and I even wrote a pronunciation guide in for me. It's pronounced Ike. So David Ike is an English board-born goal tender

and sports broadcaster. And sadly for him and for the rest of the world, his rheumatoid arthritis forced him to retire by 21. As a result, he dipped into sports broadcasting, which is fine, right? But it ended up making him a household name to a lot of households because of how many different things he ended up covering. Now, because of his arthritis, Ike ended up looking into alternative medicines, makes sense. He also took a stand against Margaret Thatcher and then ended up losing his job as a result. So far, I like, I, however, this combination wasn't a good one. Him having no job and setting himself against those in power led him at first to joining the green party, which

is cool, and it was concerned about the environment. But by 1989, at time of self-reported tremendous despair, I started feeling a presence around him. And by this point, he was also the spokesman for the green party. Now, because of this presence that he felt, he was pulled to a book by Betty Shine, a psychic healer, whom he ended up seeing four times for his arthritis. But on his fourth visit, now 1990, Betty Shine told David Eich that he was going to heal the earth, and that he was going to face opposition but would become famous, and that Wang Yi Li from the spirit world would channel through him. A trip to Peru led him to having a spiritual awakening of his Kundalini and activating all of his chakras.

So he's just he's just picking from all over the all over the woo-woo spectrum of of okay. Properating as he goes. Oh yeah. Like a ball of ball of play dough with hair in it and also the odd color. Yeah. Yeah. After this, David Ike went full into channeling spirits and wearing a lot of turquoise. This also led to him writing about different things that that that was like ecological and its politics. He wrote the Truth Fibrations in 1991. There's so much shit in here about his personal life, the thruple that he became a part of, the fact that his wife was now an aspect

of the Archangel Michael and his predictions of the world ending in 1997. Okay, wait. Yeah. Okay, I'm sorry. I mean, you know, you throw all this stuff out and you never know which part of it is going to catch me like a large mouth bass. Right.

So so his like, okay, thrupple. All right. Cool. Whatever. That's great. You do you. Everybody's, if as long as everybody's adult consenting that's cool. Yes, but his wife being an aspect of the Archangel

Michael. Yes. Yes. So question he he clearly is putting that forward. Is this something his his wife actually believed or like it Is this something his wife actually believed or like did? Okay, okay. Let me go back to K-Fabe. Okay, just like, you know, cause on the one hand, like, you know, him saying, I am channeling, Pong Zee Lee.

Right. I am this, you know, mystic. You know, whatever I'm connected to, you know, the County Monty Christo, I'm trying to think there was some channeler in the 80s that was some who was I'm down. Anyway, you know, channelers, mystics, whatever, like, okay, that's fine, but like, okay, hold on, your wife is like one degree of separation from all of this. And you're saying like, she's, it's not me, my old lady is,

Michael, an aspect of the Archangel Michael, yes, which is an interesting choice. Yeah, because he's a fighter. The specifically Michael, because yeah. So okay, all right, anyway, here I am. So just had to back it on that one. Now, once he got into writing his new age stuff, a lot of things started seeping in.

Lots and lots of channeling, right? So, again, more astral plagiarism. He even wrote about it in his love changes everything in 1992, which had lots of theosophy and claim that Jesus was for the new age folks now and a lot more channeling. Now, I've mentioned theosophy and claim that Jesus was for the new age folks now and a lot more channeling. Now I've mentioned the osvi twice, so just real quick, the osvi got started in the 1800s by Madame Blavatsky, Helena Blavatsky, in the United States in 1875. At its core, theosophy is the belief that there is an ancient and secretive brotherhood of spiritual adepts known as the masters who, although found all around the world, are centered into

bet. Think like Camertaj and Dr. Strange. Okay, that's all right. Yeah. Now, these masters, which by the way, you know, in the 70s, that's when Dr. Strange really gets going, you know, these masters are a ledge, Bible of Otsky, who have cultivated great wisdom and supernatural powers. There's a single divine absolute, and the masters are attempting to revive the knowledge

of an ancient religion once found around the world, and which will again come to eclipse the existing world of religions. So in other words, we're all like broken shards of a hologram that used to be a much more unified picture. Since most religions are, hey, don't be a dick. You know, by the way, there's other people over there who are dicks, you should kill them because, you know, you shouldn't be a dick. Like most of them basically say the same thing. They just have different ways of getting to it. So of course, this American who actually she was from Eastern Russia or Western Russia, rather, and then she came

over here. I think she was kind of a semi-middle class family, but she came over here. Anyway, of course, she figured it all out, you know, like you do. It's always... Well, yeah, it's always, you know, yeah. So, yeah, they're gonna to eclipse existing world religions reunify. Also, the purpose of human life is spiritual emancipation and the human soul will reincarnate due to karma. So, pretty cool stuff. It also promotes values of universal brotherhood and social improvements.

Although it specifically does not stipulate particular ethical codes. So that can be kind of up to the individual culture, which, all right, cool. That's the very palatable version of it. There's some real serious proto-nazi shit that ends up getting in there. And of course, it feeds into it. Because there always is. Like, yeah.

And it feeds into education movements like is like yeah, and it feeds into education movements like the Waldorf movement. Yeah, yeah, so yeah. Now of course after Blavatsky died in the 1890s, there was a schism and with the Lomaland folks going to San Diego and the Aitor folks going to England, then you start to see it all decline through the next century. And then you actually lead to, don't remember her name, I talked about her in a previous episode, but the aliens, aliens have made contact with us.

And part of the UFO culture, who looked like the Linda the good on public access TV. Oh, her movement is is directly descended. Oh, you're saying everything. Yeah, you're saying everything you're saying. I'm like, Oh, yeah, no, that's that's that's her. That's them. And I'm blanking on the name of the movement. But yeah, yeah. Now there's a lot more meat on that bone, but that's basically the gist of the of the ossophy. Okay. So the final book that I wrote for his publishers was the robots rebellion. Yeah, his publisher. Yeah. Oh boy. That's after Oh boy, that's after after the robots rebellion, his publisher stopped working with him and I start self publishing. Now he's again a household name. He has the power and the gravitas to do this.

Now the robots rebellion was written in 1984 and it was not even overtones or undertones when it came to its anti-semitid. It's 84 and 94. 94, I apologize. Okay. So the anti-semitism. 84 or 94? 94, I apologize. Okay. All right. So the anti-semitism was the only tone in this book. There was no over undertone. There was just the tone of anti-semitism. Just to rate up. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. There was a plan set into motion by a cabal of elite shadowy folks who wanted to dominate the world using international banking. Why can't any of these people come up with their own shit? Well, because you know the channel of spirits. No, that's all the same spirits. Here's an idea.

What if it actually is happening? There are actually spirit channelings happening. But the only one who actually cares enough to talk to us to these channelers are just the shittiest spirits. And all the rest are like, where are you even fucking watching people? Why are you doing this? Yeah.

Right. And now I wanna write a micro-fick for Reddit based on that premise. No, no, they really are channeling spirits It's just it's one guy and all the other spirits are like like jack why the fuck right why why why why why why why these guys are assholes No, it's gonna listen All right, do you see So

So yeah international making and they might have been been extraterrestrial or at least they worked with aliens, but it was probably what was planned in the protocols of the elders of Zion. No, Jesus God. You will remember that the protocols of the elders of Zion Zion was actually a conglomeration of several other anti-Semitic texts from previous times. One of the most important ones. Yeah, well, led to those, yes. It was justification for them. Exactly.

But one of the most important sources for the protocols of the Elders of Zion was a parody of Jewish idealism that was denigrated, was denigrating a Russian Zionist Congress in September of 1902. This parody was then cleaned up, you know, take all the ha-ha by bad actors who wanted to shift it from being an internal anti-Semitic joke to make it seem real and serious. So, ha, that's pretty funny, but what if it was K-Fan? Thus, the initial publisher, a Pavel Krushchevon, was able to falsify and forge joke into a real hoax that aimed focused anti-Semitism for generations to come. The protocols of the Elders of Zion was a fake from the jump, but Ike is taking it as though it's true. He's taking it as being true and that it's also revealed an ancient

knowledge. We'll just add some aliens in there. But it's okay because I mean look at his look at his twist, look at his pathology. Yeah, the lack of a better word. You know, the guy is trying to find an explanation for why he didn't wind up having the life he expected he was going to have. That's exactly right. So he is 110% motivated to find an explanation

of what went wrong and an explanation for way too many people gravitates to whose fault is it? Because it is comforting. Yes. On a weird level, on a weird level, for people who are prone to conspiratorial thinking, it is more comforting to think that there is some group of people who are secretly in charge doing evil things

than it is to think that, well, the world is a chaotic and scary fucking place. And random bad shit happens. And random bad shit happens. You, you, you got stuck losing the genetic lottery and you got arthritis at 21. Yeah. And I, I, I would go one step further too, is that it is an easier hit to stay angry at a group than it is to do the hard work of healing and accepting that you didn't get your way and it hurts. Yes, so I'm going now. yeah, and and that and that is his microcosm Then turns into has above so below I can do this this isn't too that that then leads to

the motivation of Everybody who who gravitates to everything he's saying because they're gravitating to his damage because they they resonate with that emotionally. They're aggrieved. Yes. At the end of the day, they are aggrieved. They want to feel superior and they feel aggrieved. So now, um, Ike is taking the protocols as being true ancient revealed knowledge. And even beyond that, the robots rebellion is actually cribbing from a guy named Milton Williams Cooper, who's another shitty human being

who dealt in conspiracy theories. Cooper, behold a pale horse in 1991. You might know that title. It was very influential amongst UFO enthusiasts. And of course, in behold, the pale horse Cooper, William or Milton William Cooper outlined an elaborate conspiracy theory that stretched from the Kennedy assassination, the doings of the secret world government, the coming ice age, all the way up to covert activities associated with the Illuminati's Declaration of War upon the people of America specifically. And it was a big hit, especially with militia folks, which is just totally awesome and won't go wrong at all.

Yeah. You keep insisting on making statements like that at the tail end of these things. Yeah. And like, you're not fooling anybody. like that at the tail end of these things. Yeah, like You're not fooling anybody. I just want to reassure you. No, you know, okay. Yeah, anyway Like no, this is going to go terribly terribly wrong. Yes, there is good No good is coming out of any of this. Okay. Well, so Milton William Cooper claims to have served in naval intelligence, but the public records have him. I looked this shit up. He, the best that I could find was that he was a petty officer who earned two service medals during the Vietnam War. He earned the Navy Commendation Medal with a V and the Navy Achievement Award also with a V, both in 1969. He claimed

to be part of a team that briefed an admiral, although again, records don't show this. So did records show anything that what his rating was? He had the officers as well. Well, he officers rank. His rating was his job in the name. I could not find rating. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, after his discharge, Cooper goes on to a junior college in California for a bit

and begins disseminating conspiracy theories by 1988. He got onto a BBS. Remember, BBS is, you got to do a BBS in the Bay Area that talked about UFOs and conspiracies and began puffing up his own story. This leads him, William Cooper, leads, he hooks up with Bill Lear, who was the son of the inventor of the Learjet, who claimed to be a CIA pilot and wrote a post detailing a post on a BBS detailing UFO cover-ups by parodying what another UFO ologist was putting out there and just beefing that up a bit.

And this turned out to be disinformation that CIA had actually been feeding to folks for reasons that I could not find. But given the timing, given I reckon that it kept folks from looking too closely into the drug trafficking that was coming back into the country. Yeah, okay, there you go. Anyway, Timot. Cooper and Lear became the Lenin and McCartney of the UF Oligis, pushing the idea that it wasn't the aliens who were the problem. It was the government trying to cover it up. So Milton William Cooper wrote a pale horse in 1991, which was hugely influential to such explosive thinkers

as Terry Nichols. Oh, no. Bop, really? Yep. And this same book is what Ike was cribbing in 1994 with the robots rebellion. Now just so you know, yeah. Well, I was just going to say, I don't

remember which of Ike I books it was. But I remember as a freshman in college, so this would have been in the fall of 93. Not having anything to do in the afternoon after classes were over, I wound up going into the Walden books, which, you know, dating this reference pretty heavily. Right next to TV toys. Down the hall from it, yeah, in the university mall in Davis. And I remember I was trying to find a science fiction book to read, you know, and somehow not entirely and appropriately, one of one of Ike's books had wound up on the science fiction shelf.

And I remember looking at the back jacket blurb and as a 19 year old college freshman, I remember thinking, what a motive horse shit. Like, well, it is science fiction. Does this guy, well, but, but like, I mean, you could tell when somebody is, you know, trying to pass something off is like, no, no, no, this is the truth, right? Right. Not, not, this is not being presented as you know, read read this adventure story about this guy fighting against snake headed aliens. No, no, this this was clearly if this guy didn't believe his bullshit, he he was trying to convince other people he did. And and I just remember looking Who in their right mind? You know, and sadly, you know, that was half my life ago. I now have enough life experience under my belt to understand that there are an awful lot of people who would, in fact, look at that and not along emphatically.

Yeah. So William Cooper's life doesn't go well from here, by the way. He gets more and more into spreading his word and he broadcasts a radio show by selling cassettes. Among his admirers were Timothy McVeigh for his work on the Waco Siege. Cooper was also an early guest on the Alex Jones show. And by the late 1990s, he'd moved away from U.F.ology and the like and ended up really

finding his feet amongst the militia movements. In July 1998, a warrant was issued for his arrest due to tax evasion. And due to that, and an ongoing issue with aggravated assault issues with his neighbors, the Apache County Sheriff's went to his Arizona home to arrest him. A gunfight and sued wherein he shot a deputy in the head and he himself was shot shot fatally at 58. But back to robots rebellion because I lived. I equipped it from Cooper's book where, where as Cooper dedicated a whole chapter to the protocols. Ike called them the Illuminati protocols Because obviously right and he called the Illuminati a quote brotherhood of elite at the top of the pyramid of secret societies worldwide and Ike refuses to admit that the protocols are fake or are anti-Semitic and he says it's Zionist and that whoever wrote it ignoring the fact that it's faked quote, knew the game plan and quote for the 20th and 21st centuries. In his own words, Ike says, I strongly believe that this is Ike not me. I strongly believe

good to make that explicitly stated. Yeah, quoting Ike believes that quote, a small Jewish click, which has contempt for the mass of Jewish people worked with non-Jews to create the first world war, the Russian Revolution and the second world war. They then dominated the Versailles peace conference and created the circumstances which and the Second World War. They then dominated the Versailles Peace Conference and created the circumstances which made the Second World War inevitable. They financed Hitler to power in 1933 and made the funds available for his rearmament. Sound like a watchmaker that we've heard of? Yeah.

Yeah. That we've heard of yeah, yeah, now I also response to not being How to put he responds to claims that he's anti-bismatic by saying he's not here's what he says quote the appearance of the unseen in the Middle East 6,000 years ago seems to be no coincidence and it's little wonder that I I'm sorry This is this is somebody named Michael Marshall who's talking about And it's little wonder that I, oh, I'm sorry, this is somebody named Michael Marshall who's talking about him. Said the appearance of the unseen in the Middle East, 6,000 years ago, seems to be no coincidence. And it's little wonder that Ike's work is so often accused of anti-Semitism. However, if we were to accept that Ike himself does not hold such views and that his work is merely co-opted by groups who undeniably are anti-Semitic,

we also have to acknowledge that Ike often does his case no favors. It's a gentleman named Michael Marshall who is spilled a lot of ink about Ike. Charles Leandrie's Rothschild cartoon from 1898 shows that since at least that long, anti-Semitic conspiracy theories have been depicting Jews as lizards, and Ike is definitely influenced by them. And what's wild is that the protocols were disproven as early as 1920 and 1921 by two different folks working on it separately from each other. Lucian Wolf of England was an anti-Zionist, Jewish history enthusiast who thought that assimilation was the way to go.

He was British after all. He stood staunchly against the Balfour Declaration. He helped draft the minority treaties at the Treaty of Versailles. He wrote the Jewish bogey and the forged protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion for the London Times in 1920. Disproving the Elders of Zion so well that everyone ignored the shit out of his work because they'd rather believe it was fake or they'd rather believe a fake. Yeah. Philip Percival Graves of Ireland did the same thing in 1921. He wrote for the Times in Constantinople was a famous entomologist and was the son of the brother to son and brother to famous Irish poets. And he absolutely disproved the protocols while writing for the times in Constantinople. And this mattered as much

as Wolf's work did. So remember what we said last week about, you know, there are a lot of people who could easily disprove all of this bullshit, but they would do better to attack the people promoting the bullshit instead of the subject matter, turns out what's new is not new. No. So the overlap of the UFO folks, the new age folks, and the folks who are willing to believe that the protocols of the elders of Zion is a vast overlap. And this brings us to William guy car. By the way, it's interesting to me how many of these ties back to Britain. Because if you go all the way back to the first episode

that we talked about, remember Thompson. Now, Car was a British-born Canadian navigating officer, aboard a submarine during World War I. And it's always interesting to me how many of these guys start off as specifically naval folks. Anyway, he wrote a few books about being on submarines between the wars and then he went on to be an intelligence officer for Canada during World War II.

During which time he wrote a book about a Nazi invasion of our hemisphere centered a happy Valley goose bay in Newfoundland centered in that area. Okay, so you go to happy Valley goose bay in Newfoundland and that's where the invasion's supposed to start. Now I think it's because everyone wants someplace to be special. Yeah. Now his activity, his being cars, cars activity between the World Wars was already keening anti-Semitic. When in 1931, he hosted conferences about the Illuminati.

He hosted conferences about the two main fanatics controlling the world, the Rockefellers, and the Rothschilds. And of course, once Carr retired from military service and moon lighting in the 1950s, he went full-bork conspiracy theorist. See, this is why you need therapy normalized because you have this guy who spent all this time

aboard a very dangerous type of new boat in World War I and look what fucking happened. Look at what this generation did without it. Anyway. Yeah, now you're preaching in the choir on that one. So car wrote ponds in the game and red river fog both in 1955. Political research associates caratizes his books, thusly, quote, car believes that an age old Jewish illuminati banking

conspiracy used radio transmitted mind control on behalf of Lucifer to construct a one world government. Okay, wait, you have to stop me there. I know. I there's a lot like there's a lot. Okay, wait, okay, hold on. A on a a okay, so the Jewish international banking conspiracy. Yeah, okay That's that's yeah, oh

Transmitted mind control radio. Yeah, okay. It was the 50s like, you know, whatever fine on behalf of Lucifer That's where I I wanted to like okay, that's new that's that's where I wanted to, like, okay, that's new. That's like previously we have races of lizard people. We have anti-Semitism everywhere. We have all of those other elements. This is the first time that Shytan, the great anime prosecutor, fallen angel, this is the first place I've heard any of that shit

come up. So like was this was this a novel introduction on his part or I think you know I think the historiography of blaming the devil. Well, okay. So this realm. I would say this. Have you ever had a salami sandwich? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Have you ever had it with Swiss cheese? Maybe. Okay. Don't know. Pretty common. Pretty still. Okay. Yeah. But there are people who have had salami sandwiches without Swiss cheese. Yeah. Okay. And then once you suggest Swiss cheese to them, they're like, oh, fuck, that'd be good. Yeah. Yeah. It's been sitting there on the table the whole time. Okay. I mean, if you're going to go anti-Semitic, aren't you going to also include blood libel? Aren't you going to include that they work for Satan? Yeah. Okay. All right. That makes sense. Okay. Yeah. And that, okay. I see, I see, I get your analogy now disturbing, isn't it?

deeply deeply goddamn troubling. Yeah. The fact that it's just a lot of things with cheese. Yeah, it's just been sitting on the table there. Yeah. And yeah, they clearly not kosher. Yeah. Yeah, holy the context of this of this conversation. So I'm going to I'm going to continue the quote. Yeah, because we only got the first part, which I knew I even have a part pause for Ed. Yeah. Um, well, you know, yeah, just to carry up the Jewish Illuminati banking conspiracy used radio transmitted mind control on behalf of the lucifer to construct a one-world government. The secret nexus of the plot was supposedly the international builder burger meetings on the banking policy. End quote.

You you could supply. It's a madly what the fuck? I was going to say that is so bad shit. Yes. There is there is this is no way said that's an insult to the stability of Guano, which is used to make vitro glycerin. Yeah, yeah, I was going to say you there is so much there is so much bad shit. Just in the first half of that quote, and then you carry on with the rest of it, but there are so much badhit there that you could supply a battalion of fifth level D&D wizards. Yes, to cast fireball for a week. Oh, yeah. Every round. Mm-hmm. Every, every six seconds for

a week. Yeah, it's kind of like when somebody says in that quote, like if somebody says, if you made $50,000 every day of your life from the time the first pyramid was constructed until today, you still wouldn't have what Bezos has. Yeah, it's like that. It's like, there's Bezos level bad shit going on. Yes. So the basic gist of his conspiracies

was that World War One was fomented by atheists to topple the Russian Tsar in order to turn Russia into a haven and charging station for atheists to topple the world's religions. And World War One was because Zionists sought to destroy Nazism so they made the World Fight Award, I'm sorry World War Two. So they made the World Fight Award, I'm sorry World War II, so they made the World Fight Award and Nazism so that they could keep Israel they being the Jews or Zionists specifically while simultaneously building up communism to keep the West so busy so that Zionists could strengthen over time and then take over the world, which was weakened by the fight between communism and the West. And then there'd be a third world war. That would be started by the USSR and the atheists to crush all religions, wherein all nations would choose the US or the USSR, and that Israel would remain wholly neutral, wholly with the W. This would of course eliminate the white race. And then the Masons would

finally take over in a Satanic plot, which I guess Zionism is the tool of as well. Yeah, all of these people want to want to want to immediately latch on to Masonism. That's a thing. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Now, car was heavily influenced by 1920s English anti-Semitism Nesta Webster and French anti-Mason Leo Taxel as well as this is the part where you're like, why did he have to be so good at research? What the fuck? Why did he have to be so diligent? Why did he have to spend so much time in the...

So Nesta Webster of England, the anti-Semite and the anti-Mason Leo Taxel of France as well as the grand papy of the Illuminati conspiracy theorist Jesuit priest Augustine Barrel Barrel Barrel Barrel with a U between the R and the E Barrel well Yeah, I don't know Augustine Barrel well there you go Yeah, and if you're wondering if someone's ego will live on beyond them, the answer is yes, if their publishing house smells money. Because after car died in 1959, they published his publishing house published the conspiracy to destroy all existing governments and religions.

Wherein he doubled down on the connections between the UFOs, the New World Order, Freemasons, the Illuminati, and the International Secret Cabals. This in itself, yeah. This was in 59. 59. Dude was ahead of his time. Yes. My God. And it would be laughable if it weren't so easily picked up by credulous and dangerous fools. Fundamentalist Christians loved the conspiracy stuff because of the ties to Lucifer. Dan Brown liked it because he wrote intricate conspiracy fictions about a period of time that had cool costumes brought into modern times. Yeah, okay. Did I mention that uh, car was the president of his own publishing house named the Federation of Christian Laman? No, you didn't mention, but I'm not at all surprised.

I only mention it because this Toronto based group not only wrote anti-Mason Newsletters monthly, but also they had close ties with another group based out of California called the California Council of Christian Laman, which lasted from 1949 until 1964. The California Council of Christian Laman included as two of its most prominent members Edward Geary Landsdale a former OSS officer who became an Air Force officer who focused specifically on the psychological warfare of the Philippines to fight against the Oh shit Hook Bala Hep I

Can't help you on that one. Yeah, it basically these were partisans who were fighting in the Philippines after World War II. Yeah, they were the Muslims on those islands. Yeah, yeah, Southern islands. Yeah, yeah. His men, so this gentleman I'm talking about, Landsdale's men would capture an enemy soldier and drain the blood from his body. And then they'd leave the corpse

where the hookbala-hap partisans would find it, which would cause them to flee the region because this would be considered evidence of the oswangs, the blood sucking demons. In the jungle. Out of Filipino folkloria. Yeah. Now after this, Landsdale became a CIA operative, tasked by Dulles to do the same thing in Vietnam,

where Lansdale became a close advisor to no GMCM. Because, of course, he did. Anyway, Lansdale was one prominent member of the California Council of the Christian Laman, the other notable member of this group that was in close cahoots with William Guy-Cars publishing house in Toronto, which spread tons of anti-Massonic propaganda was textile importer Alfred Colberg who just if I don't know if you remember him, but he just happened to be a member of the anti-communist group, the China lobby, which was the main funder of the American business consultants, incorporated and an original member for the National Council for the John Birch Society. I knew we were coming around the John Birch Society. We're going to show up somewhere in here.

Do you remember that red watch that they published? Yeah. The Birch's one of the main guys for that. No, lovely. What wonderful, wonderful patriotic Americans. It's really weird. Damn it. The semi-conspiratorial connections in people who trade in unfounded conspiracy theories. Well, and again, it's their projecting.

Yeah, they're projecting on themselves. They're involved in sketchy shit, so they think there's even bigger global sketchy shit going on like So cars ultimate solve for all of these problems that he's clearly identified Was of course that Christians needed to step up and stop all the secularism and communism and atheism that was in the world This presumably would include black pastors advocating for secular justice before Jesus comes back as well as separatist offshoots of Islam pastor is advocating for secular justice before Jesus comes back as well as separatist offsuits of Islam. Picking up the weird fucking baton from car is Mary M. Davison, an American writer and an advocate for the US leaving the UN in the early 1960s. She wrote the booklet. Notice none of these people writing full books anymore.

She wrote. She wrote this. There's nothing. What? what new material can you generate? Right. You can't get through either writing. Yeah, all they're writing are appendices to the crazy batshit stuff of generations before them. So she wrote the booklet called the profound revolution in 1966. I hated reading this. This was mostly to link the New World Order to the Federal Reserve, which had started all the way back in 1913. This was hard to get through.

Her argument was that the Federal Reserve had been started by international bankers, many of whom she claimed went on in 1921 to create the council on foreign relations. And if you look at this 1913 and 1921, neatly book and the First World War so long as you ignore that it ended in 1918. But if you could claim that the council on the foreign relations was originally thought up in 1918 and maybe still make the case. And the only person, because I looked, because she was saying this shit, so I looked, I looked at the roll sheets, I looked so much shit, the only person I found who was there at the outset of both things, the Council and Foreign Relations, and the Federal Reserve was Paul Warburg. Paul Warburg was the sion of a Jewish banking dynasty whose root stretch back to Venice in its heyday.

Warburg was a huge proponent of central banking and had most of American history on his side with the stance. Andrew Jackson called and said, fuck you, but he would have done that to anyone. So he would have done that to the Girl Scouts and hit them with a Hickory switch. But he had a lot of history on his side to be in favor of Central Bank. And he was very influential in the 1910s in specifically on legislative efforts at the monetary reform. So much so that Senator

Aldrich of Rhode Island invited Warburg to attend a secret meeting with other influential bankers on Jekyll Island in Georgia to draft a bill specifically to legislate a centralized banking system into existence. So that actually did happen. All of that actually happened and that's the problem is that there is enough meat on the bone for these fucking people to just build an entire castle in the sky. Yeah around it. Yeah. And it's really fucked up that such things are done in public, right? Because of how unwilling to listen or that such things are not done in public, pardon me, because of how unwilling to listen to reasonable arguments and face necessary changes we are as a culture. We did need a central bank We did need monetary reform in the 19th. Well, we We did and and the other I mean, it's not just that we're not willing to Listen to the need for things to change. It's that

for the ordinary average individual that for the ordinary average individual, the shit is really boring. And we don't wanna deal with it, we don't wanna like whatever, even if the meetings were made in public. Right. And yeah, I mean, it's, keep your gun going.

They're being article in the paper. Right. Yeah. And people would skip that. I mean, I read through a bunch of papers from 1912 to get a feel for what people thought of Warburg because he was big back then. He was a big fucking deal. Now, you remember Len Lees was largely secreted away from the American public as well, by the way. Yeah. And that was absolutely the right move. And from 1921 to 1926, Warburg served

on both the Federal Reserve Advisory Council and was a director on the Council Foreign Relations. And his son, James Warburg, was an advisor to FDR for a generation later, which means that the Warburg family's efforts also helped on some levels to set the table for Bretton Woods and Dunbarton Hoax. So again, his name that pops up, if you go a look and if you notice it has the word berg in it, like, I mean, all, you know, yeah, it would be like, what if the Reichstag fire was started by a guy named Abraham Cohen. Yeah, you know, and he was a communist.

Yeah, you know, and and he was a communist. It would be like that, you know. Yeah. So by the way, even in 1966, um, Davidson's idea, this woman's idea of international bankers was well known as the international Jewish banking conspiracy, which was the brain child of the Ross child family. So the International Banking Conspiracy is clearly the Ross Child, right? So that's the soup that she's swimming in. Warburg was just a tool of that much more sinister and far-reaching conspiracy to create a new world order. And so we're the masons to some extent somehow. And all of them were in on creating a new world order where international borders didn't exist in international bankers ran the show What I what I find funny

About about the obsession that these folks all have with Judaism Mm-hmm and the mason's is historically one of the most anti-Semitic organizations in society in the West has been the Masons. Do you remember last week when we talked about it? Anti-Jewish and anti-Catholic, but anyway.

Do you remember last week when we were talking about your mother-in-law throwing you under the bus? Yeah. So, in short, the free Masons have been tied to conspiracies to run shadow governments. Because if you look at the Masonic influences of world leaders, you see that there are actually a lot of world leaders who are a Masonic adherents in some way. The basics of it are always the same. Free maasons and maasons are

infiltrating the highest levels of government in order to help each other to infiltrate the highest levels of government in order to help each other to infiltrate the highest levels of government and below. They have roots that tie back to the Templars and the Jews, both of whom were involved in early banking in Europe. Templars were some of the first credit bankers, which is why Philip hated them. Both of them are obviously also secret Satanists. I've been through a lot of the times, I've been through a lot of the times, I've been through a lot of the times, I've been through a lot of the times, I've been through a lot of the times, I've been through a lot of the times, I've been through a lot of the times, I've been through a lot of the times, I've been through a lot of the times, I've been through a lot of the and entertainment, which is meant to soften people into being secular and thus doops for Satan,

in order to bring about an atheistic new world order that will then allow satanic masons and Jews to control the world. It's proven in the protocols of the elders of Zion. Like every- Which is fake. Right. Like, but anyway, yeah. Communism is also a Jewish satanic plot to pull people away from God and to make people used to autocracy. Which totally explains why Stalin, you know, himself,

crunched, you know, he's a lizard person. Right. Right. The whole Soviet council. Right. Okay. Got an income tax is a similar plot after all. Okay. When the federal reserve, well, just, I mean, obviously anybody, anybody who's a grifter is going to villainize this tax service because that's how you why that's how you wind up in jail is because you don't pay. So obviously, you're going to discredit tax service. Right. Now, I would point out though that the federal reserve and the income tax both came into being in 1913 or actually within three years, we tell you, like, 1960. So, Satan has three consonants in his name, STN, which of course,

if you know your Templar history, you can draw a triangle between St Andrew's, Trune, and Newcastle, which are three sites, which the Templar specifically didn't mention. And since we all know that the triangle is the strongest shape in nature, which a Mason would also know, and Mason's have three consonants in their name too, which if you go from Morar to Stonehaven to New Galway, you'll get three different cities, the Templars didn't name. You put those two triangles on top of each other and rotate and move one a significant amount of space, and you get what?

That's right, a star of David. And David also has three consonants at his name. You see where I'm going, of course, because it's a Semitic word. Of course, Mason, David and Satan all have five letters in their name and how many points are on a pentagram exactly and what vowel shows up four times and those three names exactly. And four is the square of two. And since Mason's used an architect square, which ties it all back together, of course, since a square is four and Satan is five, that's nine circles of hell. And if I go into those nine circles, that's 10. And how many letters in the word illuminati illuminati also starts with an

i and it also has you in it. I and you are being held by the illuminati because Illuminati has a saw on its clutches. Okay. You see how you had to pause to take a breath. Um, first, first did, did you take all of that? It was just numerology bullshit. Or okay. All right. Yeah. Cause I was like, any moron can fucking do that.

Did any, that any more come up with this shit? Yeah. Even. Yeah. I mean, you're well, no, you're gifted moron, but like, oh, and I don't, I don't even, there was something else that I had in the middle of all that. I was like, wait a minute, but, but it got, it got steamer alert by, by the sheer weight of, of dumb. That's what these booklets do. I mean, it's 100% like it's that machine gun of shit that you're like, yeah, I have to clean the whole

hole. Oh, what's that? What is the name of the of the rhetorical bullshit device that galloping? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's a complete gish gallop of of nonsense. Mm-hmm I love your you know three three cities that the Templars never specifically mentioned like and then there's three more And if you move those triangles and rotate one and then move it over on yeah, so you hide it move it over because otherwise it will work Yeah, now the Illuminati was an alternative to Freemasonry when it originally started as a secret society. Yes. Adam Weisch helped hated clericalism in the 17th and 1800s, and he started this group because

he didn't like that he had to pay such high dues to the Freemasons at the time. And that's basically what it started as, the Pepsi to their Coke. He was a big fan of ritual, but he really struggled with the old ways of doing things. So he wanted new rituals. And so he kept going with the alumni as a group. And eventually of course, it became an internal struggle within the group.

And there was the predictable schisms and whatnot and big emphasis on being smart, but also mysticism and ritual. So it was a secret society, not really, but it wasn't that different from the other boys clubs and salons of the time. The Mason's, I'm sorry, the Illuminati was just more overtly secular and anti-clarical at a time when such sentiments were on the rise, but also easily it rubber banded back against. But at first, the Illuminati was specifically exclusionary of the Jews and the women and the pagans. And eventually, though, after the Illuminati's

total suppression and crushing in Bavaria, they were destroyed in Bavaria because of the influence that they had on enlightenment ideals and the French Revolution, as well as across the pond and the Americans and the Brits started speaking up against the Illuminati, including Jedadai Amoris and John Erskine. In America, it absolutely found its way into electoral politics, which of course made sure that anti-illuminati shit was a partisan tool from then on. And of course, it's easier to say, but what if it just got more secret? And then you've got a perpetual patty. Okay. So, so all of this stuff I've been, you know, trying to remember who

it was, the name that, you know, people claimed to be channeling. And I was trying to remember whether there was a connection to the Illuminati, like the figure and I finally remember is Mount Saint Germain is the figure that folks claim to be channeling. Right. And and and that's even mentioned in Ghostbusters. Yeah. My uncle thought he was Saint Jerome. Oh no, it's Saint Jerome. Yeah, Saint Jerome. But yeah, Saint Germain is the purple something or other. Yeah, color purples always associated with it is a thing. Yeah. Yeah. And and I had thought for a moment that he was one of the founders that he was one of the founding members and possibly part of the schism within the actual historical illuminati. Turns out, no, he's he's referred to an awful lot in you guessed it theosophy

Mm-hmm. So yeah, anyway, I was barking up the wrong tree, but But so so these guys founded a club. Yes Because you know, we didn't like the other clubs. So we're gonna start our own with blackjack and hookers totally fair You know forget about the blackjack and we don't want women in here. So, you know, forget the hookers. And like the Templars, they got crushed. Yeah, they get other. They got suppressed.

They got they got other very fast and basically got shut down. But there was enough of a cultural memory left behind that they were left as something for these idiots to cling to. That seems to be the recurring theme. If the Templars are involved, they're going to like lap that shit up. If the Illuminati were even like, present on the same part of the continent. Yes.

They're gonna, they're gonna find a way to try to, you know, blame them for something. Yes. Yes. Like, yeah. Now another naval background person of note in this story is Robert Welch Jr. From his early years, he too was clearly too smart for his and anyone else's own good. He had been admitted to Chapel Hill

at the age of 12 and he was such an insufferable Baptist that he never turned down a chance to convert his classmates. I grant you this is around 1912. So instead of trying to get laid aton, I'm sure his classmates were just wearing ridiculous sweaters, pork pie straw hats, and played ukulele's. The last thing they needed was a 12-year-old fire and brimstone preacher cock-walking them. Yeah. He went both to anapolis naval academy as well as Harvard Law School, but he didn't finish it either place. Instead, he put his efforts into business, specifically candy.

And eventually, he'd be credited with creating sugar babies and junior mints. From about the age of 13 or so, he was also very invested in conspiracy theories as well, because of course, it's smarter than everyone, white boy in South Carolina would be interested in conspiracy theories. By 1956, Welsh retired from the candy business

and was hella rich partly due to the popularity of movies. So what does a rich guy do after he retires? Run for office, support politicians and start a zine. Then in December of 1958, Welch, a guy who'd proven successful at his whole life and who'd made a lot of money giving people what they wanted, who had business as his model for everything because he was good at it

and who'd always gotten his way and it always held Jesus and conspiracy theories close to his heart. He got together with 11 other guys amongst them, Nazi sympathies, sympathizers, Fred coach, or Fred cock, no, Fred Coke. and later neo nazi ravioli op Oliver after he'd lost his bid for lieutenant governor of Massachusetts and created a group based around a guy named john birch. John birch was a president in turn Baptist minister and missionary who worked for the oss in china and who was killed by chinese communist 10 days after war two ended in what appears to be basically failure to communicate on a number of levels. Birch had worked with Claire Chenol in China for most of the war. Did I do his name just as Chenol? Oh, yeah. Good enough for me. Welch Jr. wanted to use his name as an anti-Hot Communist

icon. One man's opinion, which was renamed American opinion because, of course, it was, became the official paper of the John Birch Society, and now it's called the new American. Within the first three years, the John Birch Society, flushed with Junior Mint money, was conducting postcard campaigns to stop Eisenhower from submitting with the USSR nuclear arms reductions and other issues to try to impeach that flaming liberal Earl Warren from the Supreme Court and an effort to pressure Xerox to not sponsor TV shows for broadcasters who were in favor of the United Nations. Wow. Among their founding principles, Welsh junior wrote, quote,

both the US and Soviet governments are controlled by the same furtive conspiratorial cabal of internationalist greedy bankers and corrupt politicians. If left unexposed, the traders inside the US government would betray the country's sovereignty to the United Nations for a collectivist new world order managed by one world socialist government. And quote, okay, wait, I knew. Yeah, the John Burke society was extreme right wing. I knew that the John Birch Society was extreme right wing. I knew that they were somewhere to the right of Chinggis Khan, yes, quickly. I didn actually batshit crazy conspiracy theory types. From the jump. But I feel like such a fool that like I was unaware of that. Mm-hmm.

Okay. But they were not specifically anti-Semitic, at least in a surface conspiratorial way. They talked about internationalists and greedy bankers and crowd politicians. Yeah. Well, Schemself had said, quote, all we are interested in here is opposing the advance of the Communists

and eventually destroying the whole communist conspiracy so that Jews and Christians alike and Muhammadians and Buddhists can again have a decent world in which to live. And the John Birch Society did actually expel Revealo Oliver or all the air. Their hard on was against communism, not anything else. I guess you have to crawl before you can go step. Yeah. Now in 1964, Welch said, with regard to Eisenhower, it is difficult to avoid raising the questions of deliberate treason. What? He said that Eisenhower was a tool of the communists. Fucking Ike. Different Ike's. But yeah, but no, no, the Ike I like.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Ike's never. Eisenhower. Yes. And the tool of the communists. Yes. In the 1970s, the John Birch Society came even harder right work.

After helping Phyllis Schlaffle. Oh, wait. Oh, yeah. How do you, okay? You get Phyllis Schlaffle on your side. Oh, God. Herself, a member of the John Birch Society, after helping her to defeat the Equal Rights Amendment,

then they end up decentralizing. And anytime a rightist movement decentralizes, it gets more dangerous. They all kept their core tenants the same standing against civil rights, campaigning against the convention on the prevention and punishment of crime of genocide. They were against that. Yeah, well, because if you did that, will the air back in? No, no, did not. Um, he stayed out, but once, once Welch died, the second head of the group was a congressman from Georgia, whose death we've actually already discussed, his name

was Larry McDonald's. Okay. Remember where he was in 1983. Okay. Remember where he was in 1983? Digly refresh my memory. He was on career in airlines flight 007. Okay. Now after he dies, William P. Hoar,

who'd been very hard against George H. W. Bush for his new World Order speech for being two internationalists. Oh my God. Is that word again? He began writing against Bill Clinton for his alleged connections to the trilateral commission, the Bilderberg group and the Council on Foreign Relations. Oh my God. Now, here's what Bush said, by the way, that was so satanic.

Quote, until now, the world we've known has been a world divided, a world of barbed wire and concrete block conflict in the Cold War. Now we can see a new world coming into view. A world in which there is the genuine prospect of a new world order. In the words of Winston Churchill, a world order in which the principles of justice and fair play protect the weak against the strong. A world where the United Nations freed from Cold War stalemate is poised to fulfill the historic visions of its founders. A world in which freedom and respect

for human rights find a home among nations. Obviously he was clearly a solidest tool. Yeah, Avi. Come on. Yeah. Horr wrote the architects of conspiracy and intriguing history in 1984. And the whole John Birch society seemed to be really getting into it more and more conspiracies. George H. W. Bush's speech clearly proved that it was happening. And then Pat Robertson wrote the new world order in 1981. In it, he exposed the new age movement, the Freemasons, the Clinton's, the trilateral commission. I'm sorry, that must have been 1991 that he did Freemasons, the Clinton's, the trilateral commission.

I'm sorry, that must have been 1991 that he did that. Yeah, it was going to sound. Yeah. The Clinton's, the trilateral commission, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Illuminati, and Satan as being the architects to bring down America and Americanism, which means Christian nationalism on many levels. Robertson said that the principal goal, quote, the principal goal is the establishment of one world government,

where the control of money is in the hands of one or more privately owned, but government chartered central banks. End quote. Anytime banking is mentioned, I'm calling dog whistle. Well, I mean, yeah, yeah. Robertson also was inspired by Nesta Webster from England. Remember her? And she revived the Illuminati conspiracy theories back in the 1920s. Webster believed herself to be reincarnated from someone who died in the French Revolution, by the way.

Because of course she did. Because of course like, yeah, if if if there is an alien like right. This of course helps to explain why she went all in. Yeah, and she went all in on the conspiracy that the French Revolution was a continental free-mason conspiracy Because she distinguished between the continental version and the British version because of course she did she's a Brit Webster was fiercely anti-Semitic though she pretended not to be and she said that the Illuminati's members were all occultists who sought to run the world by a communism through a Jewish cabal Mason's and Jesuits the world via communism through a Jewish cabal, Mason's and Jesuits.

In 1920, Webster also wrote for the London Morning Post, contributing to an ongoing series called The Jewish Parall. That series was later gathered into a publication into a book form called The Cause of World Unrest. These are both fancy names for the protocols of the Elders of Zion because of course they are. Because what else would they be? Yeah. So Robertson, Red Hershsh, loved the cut of Herjib

and wrote his book in 91. And according to Don Wilkie, a Christian academic, quote, Robertson's book is quote, a summary of Robertson's book is found on page 177 in which Pat says a conspiracy has existed in the world working through free masonry and secret order of the Illuminati, a group combining masons and Jewish bankers So so you know the the the verb you used earlier was that Robertson exposed all of this

two questions about that. Exposed number one would, would, would, and to point in the direction of this all having been successfully hidden up to the point where Robertson wrote his book, but he's literally parroting shit that was already said by any number of people beforehand. Yeah. So he didn't expose anything by that definition. Nope. And then furthermore, if we say that something is expository, generally there is evidence,

you know, proof, proof of what they're saying. And like I assume outside of quoting, the aforementioned protocols of the elders of Zion, there's no documentation he pointed to, there's no like. Well, he's breathing out what we have, right? Yeah, yeah. presentation he pointed to there's no light. Well, he's dreaming of what we have, right? So he's treating them as though they are verifiable sources. And since she was in the newspaper, it counts, right? Yeah. He also liked used his mullins, who is 100% anti-Semite, who thought that America owed a debt to Hitler

that the Jews used pictures of dead Germans to claim the Holocaust happened and that a conspiracy existed wherein Warburg and Woodrow Wilson and JP Morgan and the Rockefellers and the Ross Childs founded the Federal Reserve to weaken national and ethnic distinctions for the sake of international bankers who brought about the famines of the 1930s to make more money. Okay, wait. Yeah. The founding of the Federal Reserve somehow weakened national and ethnic distinctions. Yes Because it strengthened international bankers who would then Basically make it so that famines happened. Okay That still doesn't weaken national distinctions

that still doesn't weaken national distinctions. Like, scots are still gonna wear skirts in plaid and the French are still gonna eat snails. Like, they make these arguments about, you know, national distinction like being destroyed, but no, that there's no evidence of that ever having happened. Yeah. Like, well, used as Mullins also, like are these people terrified of fusion, cuisine?

Probably. And you know, you do have in the 1920s and 30s, international communication that is much quicker. So this is scaring people. And when people get scared, they blame the Jews, right? So Eustace Mullins also claimed that Hitler was funded by the Ross Childs, which of course tied into the Bilderberg group, which in 1968, Eustace Mullins wrote the biological Jew. Yeah, wow. And not to be outshined by Pat Robertson,

he saw what Pat Robertson had done. And Pat Robertson was cribbing from Mullins. And so in 92, he wrote a book, Mullins did called the world order. The world order are secret owners. Now, I'll catch up with the rest of these shitty people after I catch David Ike up because we need to catch him up, because we're here to talk about Vee. In this whole time, I actually have been talking

about Vee. So back to David Ike. When last we left him, he clearly was headed anti-Semite, but he was begging off. And then he stopped getting published. But by this time, Ike was wealthy enough and had amassed enough of a following that he could self-publish. So in 1995, Ike published and published his book, and the truth shall set you free, in which he questioned the Holocaust, and that, quote, the warburgs part of the Rothschild Empire helped finance Adolf Hitler So we know where he's at And just in case we don't

He says more quote again. This is David Eich I strongly believe that a small Jewish click which has contempt for the massive Jewish people worked with non-Jews to create the first world war The Russian Revolution and the second world war they then dominated the Versailles Peace Conference and created the circumstances which made the Second World War inevitable. They financed Hitler to power in 1999, he wrote the biggest secret. And he wrote that there is a race of alien reptilian people called the Anukai, named for part of the Sumerian God's Pantheon who are from the Draco constellation. Now, I'd say you cannot make this shit up, but clearly he made this shit up.

I think it's Anunaki. Okay, I think it's Anunaki, but yeah. Yeah. There seems to be an end missing. I might have misspelled who knows okay, but sure Anyways, and it could be is the Anunnaki and that's the Samarion word and he changed it a little bit to the Anukai I'm not sure okay, but he clearly made this shit up Anyway, these Anukai Have taken over the positions of prominence all over the

world, but don't worry, they're also extra-dimensional, but from the lower astral dimensions you see, specifically the fourth dimension, and they're called the Arconz. They're controlled by beings in the fifth dimension, of course, if you've got your bingo card ready. Ike claims that a genetically modified human Arcon hybrid race, who are shapeshshifting reptilians are also known as the Babylonian Brotherhood, which is also the Illuminati. They interfere and manipulate global events to keep humans in constant fear, which is delicious negative energy for the arcons to feed off of keeping us trapped here in a mere five senses reality. Here's what he has to say about that. The weapons in our hands are limitless ambition, burning

greediness, merciless vengeance, hatred and malice. It is from us that all engulfing terror proceeds. We will not give the people of this world peace until they openly acknowledge our international super government. That's what the archives are saying in his book. Okay. Actually, I liked it. He did he did he interview one of them? No, I like. Okay. That's actually a quote from the protocols of the elders of Zion. I've brand this. It is a job. Thank you. Now, quote, this does come from it. When you get back into the ancient world, you find this recurring theme of a union between

a non-human race and humans, creating a hybrid race. From 1998, I started coming across people who told me that they had seen people change into non-human form. It's an age-old phenomenon known as shapeshifting. The basic form is like a scaly humanoid with reptilian rather than humanoid eyes. The Brotherhood, which controls the world today, is the modern expression of the Babylonian Brotherhood of reptile, Aryan priests, and royalty. Ike said this in an interview when he also stated in that same interview that when he uses the term Aryan, he means the white race.

All right, well, you know, thank you all for coming. I think we're done here. Oh, but we're not. The apex of the Babylonian brotherhood holds. Like the apex of the Babylonian brotherhood holds the global elite whose chiefs act as prison wardens here on this world. Ike said, quote, we have the encouragement of wars, human genocide, the mass slaughter of animals, sexual perversions, which create highly charged negative energy and black

magic ritual and sacrifice, which takes place on a scale that will stagger those who have not studied the subject. End quote. Now, doesn't that sound blood libely? Oh, and intensely, it's intensely blood libely. I wonder how boring his day-to-day life must be in terms of his diet and sexual habits, because it's part of the horrible.

Mass slaughter of animals clearly points to life. Oh, wait, wait, wait. What Mass slaughter of animals. Clearly points to life. Oh, wait, wait, wait. What do you mean animals? No, no, no, no. It gets better. Oh, shit. The reptilians have forever demanded human sacrifices at not animals,

specifically child sacrifices, because, quote, at the moment of death by sacrifice, a form of adrenaline called a Drenacrome, surges through the body, accumulating a brain and is apparently more potent than children. So, so I kiss the godfather of you. Mm-hmm. So so I kiss the godfather of you. Mm-hmm.

Mm. So you know what's fun is that it just keeps getting dumber. Oh, now some of this worked his way into Star Wars books. Because if you remember tales from most likely Cantina, Kevin J. Anderson wrote about the soup and the luck for the Anzadi, the hookah smoker from, from, you know, the Cantina bar. Okay. Yeah. And where he's talking about how delicious he'll be one soup would be, but he's going to settle for Han Solo's luck and soup and stuff like that. I mean, it's basically that same kind of answer. Right. Right. Right. That's in the mid-90s.

Also, that's the same shit that people are talking about nowadays with Hillary Clinton. Yeah. But more importantly, again, what ancient conspiracy practice does this sound like? Well, obviously it's blood libel. Yep. I hold the reptilian archons responsible for the creation of the following institutions. Here is a list and it's not comprehensive. I left a bunch out. The council of foreign relations, the IMF, the UN, the round table, the Chatham House, the trilateral commission, the Bilderberg group,

the media, the military CIA, MI6, science, the internet, religion, the Messiah, the club of science, science, royal institute of international affairs, the London School of Economics and the Illuminati to name a few. You want to know what they've been doing? They've been responsible for 9-11, the Oklahoma City bombing, Princess Diana's death, fluoride in the water, chemtrails, 7-7, the assassination of JFK Columbine, Dunblane Massacre, and Global Warming. assassination of JFK Columbine, Dunblane Massacre, and Global Warming. You see, they've been here all along, and it's the reptilians all over it being Jewish. Quote. Thought patterns in the collective Jewish mind have repeatedly created that physical

reality of oppression, prejudice, and racism, which matches the pattern. The expectation programmed into their collective psyche. They expect it. They create it. He just said that. He, he victim claims the Jewish people for anti-Semitism. Yes. But he himself is not anti-Semitic. Oh, no, no, of course not. No, because they are. Right. In his logic, like, no, he can't be. Yeah. Now, after 2000s and Bush was in charge,

and a lot of right wing conspiracy folks had to invent new and different wrinkles in those on those in power to keep feeding the monsters. So they did, of course. Neocons weren't going far enough and they weren't too different from Neolibs. This is true. Yeah.

That last part at least. On the left, you had criticisms that Neolibs weren't doing enough and weren't too different from Neocons, also true. Yeah. So you have people on both sides and things kept humming along after 9.11, where you could point to responses as conspiracies

and this increased presence of American military personnel overtly overseas, 140-something bases. It became fertile ground, again, to say that at the top, the power structure remained the same. It was simply a matter of branding, and there is some validity due to those claims. The messaging worked on so many levels for so many people that it led to more and more smart folks thinking that they were the only ones who got it. Add to that the advent of broadband internet and you've got a lot of folks radicalizing and insulating themselves. In August of 2000, only 4% of American households had broadband internet access. Websites were pretty basic at that point. You could mostly, you mostly

purposely had to seek stuff out, but by July of 2011, 69% of American households had broadband internet access. And in 2008, only 22% of people purchased new smartphones, but in 2016, it was up to 73%. YouTube started in 2005, podcasts, which are originally called audio blogs got started in 2004 and by 2005 Apple was folding it into their iTunes platform by 2009 43% of the country had heard of podcasts. In those growing years more and more people had access to more and more accidental and then click baity content. So you have more videos, more channels, more podcasts, more websites, all moving this content of conspiracy in two people's eye line. And the result is obviously manifest. More niche means, and more niche content means more people screaming about the

new world order and other conspiracy theories. And the more that happens, the more that Glen Beck, Sean Hannity and Alec Jones, screech about conspiracies of global elites and liberals who are trying to lull you in, take you over and enslave into vowry good Americans. Here's a quote, the families in positions of great financial power obsessively interbreed with each other. But I'm not talking about one earth race, Jewish or non-Jewish. I'm talking about a genetic network that operates through all the races. This bloodline being a fusion of human and reptilian genes. And now suddenly, the idea is that I'm saying it's a gigantic Jewish plot. But let me make myself clear. This does not in any way relate to an earth race. But okay,

Jewish isn't to race, is it? Is that or are you saying that Jewish isn't an earth race? Right. And really like you're literally dehumanizing. And that's it. People, he's other them. And the lizards become a stand-in or Jewish people. And he's drawing on the prejudices and conspiracy theories that already cast Jews as the lizards. In 2003, there was a provincial election in Ontario, Canada. Dalton McGinty, Ernie Eves, Eves, and Howard Hampton were other party leaders for the 103 legislative seats up for for election Ernie Eves of the progressive conservative party accused Dalton McGinty of the liberal party of being quote an evil reptilian kitten eater from another planet.

Okay, was that was that intended as hyperbole or was he serious? Roting or shittiness. Okay. So when he got called out for how fucking weird that was, he said it was a joke. He said it was even over the top. But then he also refused to apologize for it. Some say that he was referencing a buffy episode. Okay, but yeah. Also, like okay, but no. Also, McGinty made sure that there was a picture of him

holding a little white fluffy kitten and that also that they had t-shirts made that said, call me an evil reptilian kitten eater, but I want change. Which, that's the best response you could make. Like, you know. The election was a disaster for the progressive conservatives who ended up losing almost 60% of the seats that they held

while the Liberals won more than double what they had. And the new Democratic Party lost two seats as well. Clearly the reptilians have won. Now in a super tight race, decided by 500 voters. Oh wow. Yeah. In Minnesota, for Senate in 2008, Al Franken barely edged out norm Coleman. I remember that. Yes. Some of the votes had writings. Lizard people ballots were all thrown out, making the race tighter than it already was. And when the actual author of the lizard people write in was found, he said, quote, a friend of mine, we didn't like the candidates. So we were at first going to write in revolution because we thought that was good into the point.

And then we thought the lizard people would be even funnier. And there was kind of a running inside gag between some friends and I. And he maintained that he had, quote, the right to vote for anybody I wish, even if it's made up candidate or even myself, it really bugs me that he's a 25 year old semi red headed ponytail long sideburned go T wearing thin guy who's much, much more than it should bother me, quite honestly. But still. But still. But it also means that he couldn't have seen the mini series or the TV series when they

first aired. So where's he getting this lizard people shit? Because it's a year before V came back on the air. Like, it's in, it's in, it's in, it's in, it's in the water. Yeah. Yeah. And just so you can see that the series was responding to the zeitgeist, not driving the zeitgeist.

In 2011, Louis CK asked Donald Rumsfeld, which I guess it was a monster's ball situation. He asks him on the open antiANTE radio show, quote, are you a lizard? He'd given some pretext that this was based on the conspiracy. So there's there's no mention of the show. Rumsfeld's response for a good minute. Rumsfeld told a sprawling story about how people in New York love him and told Lowy that he's quote, messing with the wrong people. The more disturbing part of this episode is that both Opian Anthony platform Donald Rumsfeld

and Louis CK at the same time. Yeah. Yeah. Now finally, in 2013, Caitlin Hayden responded to a question in wired, asking about the legitimacy of the reptilian resistances claim. Again, I can't make this shit up. There claimed that Obama had a shape shifting alien humanoid on his security team.

Her response was far more revelatory than Rumsfeldt. And I think she was like the secretary's deputy for the press. She said, quote, I can't confirm the claims made in this video, but any alleged program to guard the president with aliens or robots would likely have to be scaled back or eliminated in the sequester.

I'd refer you to the Secret Service or Area 51 for more details. What, which like, I hear that and I'm like, that is brilliantly done. Right, but unfortunately, yeah, the problem is that she responded. Yeah. Yeah, it was tongue in cheek. And it was funny. But look what farts are surfacing and bubbling on top of the lake here. Yeah. Right. There's plenty to criticize Obama for in 2013.

But conspiratorial discourse has become so normalized at that point to such an extent that a White House attache is responding to it. And what is happening, tongue and cheek as it may be, is that the faith in the truth and objective truth that we can all agree on is shaky at best. It's being destabilized and people are opting out. And that is a huge problem when we're looking at a heat wave after heat wave after heat wave. It's a huge problem when COVID is followed by monkeypox and we're in the nineteen or we're in the forties of the variants of COVID in rapid succession. The problem is that if enough people dive in on these things, presently 4% of the population believes that lizard

people lizard people control our societies. That's a quote from a poll. Four percent of the population believes that. Then it's harder to mobilize actual collective action. Zuckerberg in 2016 had to answer an online Q&A whether or not he was a lizard. And while anecdotally it's funny and it's funny to say that of all people, the question is most validly pointed at him. It's still, but it's not though because he's not a lizard. He's a cyborg. Yeah. Come on. It's also, it's still distracts from his elite position in our world. And it still gives voice to shit that's best left between the Drunk Set of Bar. his elite position in our world and it still gives voice to shit that's best left between the drunks at a bar.

Yeah. In 2014, John Key of New Zealand had to answer an official information act request about whether or not he was a lizard. He's a legislator and he had to basically a foya. He said quote to the best of my knowledge, no, having been asked that question directly, I've taken the unusual step of not only seeing a doctor, but a vet and both have confirmed that I'm not a reptile. Again, funny, but you're also having to respond. Yeah.

Because when one conspiracy theory is given life publicly, the other bullshit gains legitimacy in a dangerous way. Here's some stats. 12% of Democrats who voted in the prior election believe that global warming was a hoax in 2013. 61% of Republicans who voted in the prior election thought it was a hoax in 2013. In 2020, 20% of Americans pulled by Pew, which skews right word, believed that the elite probably orchestrated COVID. 20% 1 in 5. 5% said definitely so. So that's 1 in 4 think that to some extent the elite have orchestrated it. To break it down,

similarly to the other stat, 15% of Democrats who voted in the prior election, so these are people who voted for public officials thought that COVID was orchestrated by the elite 15%. 3% of Democrats who voted in the prior election thought it was definitely orchestrated. So a total of 18% of Democrats who'd voted in the prior election were like yeah, yeah, the elite did this. Republicans probably was 26%., definitely was 8 percent. That's 34 percent. That's one in three Republicans.

Yeah. And almost one in five Democrats. And roughly the same percentage of moderates from both political groups say probably. So 29 percent of moderate Republicans and 24 percent of moderate Democrats. By the way, just break down educationally, 4% of college grads say definitely and 20% say probably. Yeah, fucking college grads. Yeah, half the country is high school diploma or less. And still, 24% of college grad said yes, and the diploma or less folks 36% said probably

That's one in three of high school diploma or less and 12% said definitely So 36 and 12 that's almost half the people who have a high school diploma or less Say that COVID was orchestrated most likely by the elites. So let's go back to Ike and QAnon and anti-Semitism and all that absolutely fed into the 2009 version of V, look at who was in the resistance, Erica the FBI agent, father Jack the clergyman, Ryan Nichols, the only black main cast member who's actually a visitor and who's a successful businessman. Kyle Hobbs, the former British SAS operative who's a current mercenary and a professional violence guy. You have law and order, independent businessman, the good kind, private violence, and a Christian. How is that not what Ike said were the only ones who could stop such a sprawling new world

order? They're the only ones who could see what's really happening, as the media had been completely co-opted along with the medical community, top religious leaders, and the world governments who are giving over willingly to a single world order led by a media savvy controlling duplicitous looks like us but isn't us leader who says all the right things for the sheep to follow Just a few people stand between total ruination and The truth and maybe just 4% of the population, but luckily their arms. So that's cool

Jesus now Miranda Bacchare in 2009 said that the She said of the series that it was more long those lines. Quote, originally what was intended with the show, the aliens, the visitors had been amongst us for hundreds of years and were the impetus and the catalyst for a lot of plagues and a lot of world wars and had kind of instigated these things

to try to kind of try to end humanity and to control humanity. I thought that was the direction that we were headed and then we ended up having two or three different showrunners and ABC didn't really know which direction they wanted to go to take the show. It became kind of a mess, but what first attracted me to the show was definitely this possibility that we could make parallels to the modern world. Yeah, you didn't miss that. Right. So she thinks all that shit is parallels to the modern world.

Ms. Becarrion, may I call you Maray now. No, not, obviously. The fuck? Right. Okay. So the show that started out as a writer who wanted to recreate it can't happen here, where in Hitler and fascists have overtaken overtly, which must be resisted by all of us in all sorts of ways, has gone completely the other way, saying that the ones doing the controlling are stand-ins for Jews, and

that their secret control of us must be resisted by a plucky band of people who know the truth. Wow, Yeah. So that's that's that's so bring. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So here we are now.

Yeah. Wow. That's that's heavy. That yeah, you know, at the time that the show was on the most recent one, the 2009 version, my my friends and I watched like the first two episodes of it. And I remember that whole, like something kind of makes you itch, but you're not sure what. Right.

Yeah. And I don't wanna be taking credit for being aware of something that I wasn't consciously, but I remember I remember looking at it like I don't know if I like the the allegory they're going with here. Yeah. Like I remember the allegory from the from the first one, you know, all those years ago. And I don't like this one. And and all of the plot beats are similar. And yet this strikes me as very different. Yeah. And it's not just Marena Becarran's haircut being very contemporary as opposed to Diana's,

you know, being dynasty in space, which I mentioned before. Like there's something else going on here and I don't know, like it made me itch. And I was just like, I'm not gonna need to watch the rest of this. I'm done Yeah, and and now that it's been so thoroughly dissected like at the very least I'm glad I didn't yeah, you know um

and I really really really wish that I had been louder and more perceptive at the time. We always that. Yeah, I know. But like, yeah, it's gross. I mean, it's just at the end of the year. It really is. It's a grotesque.

I try to make the point to my history students. I'm teaching ancient history now. And the whole chariot of the gods, ancient aliens, shit. And the whole chariot of the gods, chariots of the gods, ancient aliens, shit. I consider insulting. And I make a point of when we're talking about the pyramids, pointing out this was built by people. Right.

All of the ancient monuments of the ancient world, these were built by people. We can reconstruct how they were done. You know, the answer of course, was being done by massive forced labor populations. Like, well, how could they possibly move all that? When you don't have a moral qualm against slavery, you can get a lot of shit done.

Like, you know, it doesn't take super tech. It just takes a huge labor force. Like, yeah, that's all. You know, but this was all built by humans. This is our legacy. This is what we have done. And I find it just as insulting, just as insulting in a different way that we have to find

some alien source for all the evils in the world. Well, it, you know, like, you know, it's, it's, it's lizard people. It's reptilons. It's like all this other, like, it serves two masters that I do. Number one, it gives you a way to be anti-Semitic. Number two, if somehow that slips past you, then it still allows you to distance yourself conceptually as a person with responsibility from the problem. This is true. Yeah. So. But like no, we need to own our shit. Like as a species, we need to hone the fact that we are capable of all of the evil that we have done. And it's not because we've all been manipulated by some secret cabal,

whether you blame humans, other subset of humans who you want to other ND humanize, or whether you want to try to blame aliens for it. No That the seed of that Hittiestness right is ours. Yep, and it is it is insulting to our capacity for good To obviate our capacity for evil. Well, and again, it started with it can't happen here and we have a moral duty to resist it. Yeah.

And it ended with space juice. Yeah. Yeah. No, you're absolutely right. I mean, I think the moral lesson that the creator of this whole series put into it. Yeah. Again, that's kind of my whole point, you know, it goes from that to that. It completely flips.

Yeah. Yeah. So. All right. Well, let's let people get out of here. So where can folks find you on social media. Let's skip the books for this week. Okay.

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