A Geek History of Time - Episode 61 - Superheroes and Hogwarts Part I

Episode Date: June 27, 2020

Wow, you're gonna like this. Oh, no, I'm not because there is no god damn middle. This is not unlike ancient Rome by the way Not so much the family circus Yeah, I did Want to create self-sustaining farms and you got into crystals. I know. Okay. I understand that and you got into Crystal City. I know! Okay, I understand that. But yeah, I'm reading Livy, who is a shitty historian. Because Irrigan is.

Others say that because Laurentia's body was common to all the shepherds around, she was called a she-wolf, which is a Latin term for horror. You were audible, lassies. It was just most of it, where you slamming the table. As the Romanists at the table, well, duh. Obviously, Ipso facto. Right. You know, it's your original form. Ipso, duh. You have a sword rat. This is a geek history of time. Where we connect memory to the real world, I'm Ed Blalock. I'm not going to tell you how old I am, father and world history is you're here in Northern

California. And at the risk of dating us today with this recording, I just managed today to finalize my grades for distance learning and get them all sent off. And I am now off the hook until they decide to drag us back no doubt in the middle of a, what are we going to call it, wave 1.5 in August to go back to school? And who are you, sir? Well, I'm Damian Harmony. I am 42 years old. I don't mind saying it. That way when I listen to this again in eight years, I'll be like, oh, remember when my voice was less gravely.

So I am a Latin teacher. I believe next year I will only have Latins and I have been working all day from about 10 in the morning until about half an hour ago on recording content for my level three class because I run a boot camp in the summer for kids who want to get into AP. I am wiped out on having done nothing but just recorded myself.

So, of course, here we go. I, you know, my district is terrible. As you spent, after you spent all day doing that, what do you do with your free time, but getting in front of a microphone, right? Exactly. I have no doubt that my district will find some way to top yours as far as its idiocy. They recently sent out a survey, and I sent something back telling them that they were on notice for the kinds of surveys that they put out to the parents and then don't listen.

So I don't know what I'm going to do during the summer. Well, I do know what I'm going to do during the summer, but I'm going to kind of miss having to speak truth to power. So I'm sure my district will find a way to get me to do that. And who knows what else is going to happen in the news. So, yeah, well, I'm sure whether they intend to do it or not, I'm sure they will give you every opportunity. Yeah, that's very true. So, let's do something light. The whole world has been on fire for a little while. We went from disease to massive unrest. Yeah, I wishful thinking, a revolt. And all the police had to do was arrest like seven people, but instead they dug in their heels around the nation and they're completely done.

Arrested a whole bunch more and essentially committed their own uprising in a way. Yeah, yeah, kind of scary. Against the actual sovereign power of the country, which is to say the people. But so in an effort to give us something light and escapist, which knowing us, we'll do our damnedest and probably fail. But in an effort to give us something, it's a case, what have you got for me tonight? We've discussed Hogwarts in the past.

Yes, we have. And we've discussed superheroes in the past. Yes, we have. And I've even brought superheroes and Hogwarts together in prior episodes. Yes. This episode is entirely superheroes and Hogwarts. Okay.

So we're sorting superheroes from the Marvel world into houses. Ooh, okay. All right, I can get behind this. I have no doubt. I was hoping to keep this one dry until we could all meet in person again, just because having our former guest, Tessa, as a moderator would have been wonderful. Or, you know, shouting participant.

Right, either we'll do. Yeah. So to start with though, let's go back to what the four Hogwarts houses are. And before I even start that, I need to call out the fact that JK Rowling has doubled and tripled down on her transphobic turthing, and she's kind of showing herself to be a garbage person.

Have we only gotten to tripling or are we now at like quintupling? Oh, she's very well. She's like every time. Like I can only imagine the folks from Warner Brothers get a gun on the phone when they're like, um, so yeah. Could you stop? JK.

JK, sweetie, booby, honey, dear. We really want to keep making money off of this. Could you just not? Yeah. So like, you know, yeah, please. She's essentially like just, I mean, she she is essentially like just I mean she's doing the Thing that I expect people at her age to do if they stop learning but because she wrote such wonderful books that were That tackled issues of inclusivity and difference. It's it's kind of a body blow to a lot of folks

I know who are huge fans and they're having to reconcile it and part of me me is sitting there as a Star Wars fan going, yeah no this is what I went through several times with George Lucas. So you learn to love the world and you need to call out the person who built it. Okay so I want to pause you right there. Sure because you know you talk about going through this with Lucas like you specifically call out Lucas. Now he's you know a boomer. So there's that. He's a Modesto. He's a Medesto. He's a Medesto. But you know, you know, you know what you have a having having family down there. Yeah, you know, yeah. Um, but you know, so boomer, Modesto, boomer, who then went and became an author,

and we have had some kind of side-line, tangential discussion of what exactly, you know, that means as far as your asshole. Yeah. You're an abusive person. Yeah. But my own experience with problematicness, being associated with Star Wars, mostly, and as I'm saying this, of course, I'm realizing things, but mostly has to do with other fans being over-entitled, non-inclusive,

privileged little white boy cry babies. So what's not something I see with JK Rowling's property? No, it's interesting. Yeah, that's missing. Yeah, yeah. But what I'm curious about is, what specifically are you talking about Lucas in that context? So we can start with, um, Jar Jar Binks. Yeah, okay. As I was, as I was, as I was,

I was believing the question up. I was like, oh, wait, right, right. The prequel. So when we made his fan films, he included all the, basically, okay, the original, the Holy Trilogy, the Eryd Tridge, they had the benefit of somebody pulling him back and a studio system controlling him on some levels.

And that collaboration, that tension made made really cool, really cool world. When he made his fan films, the Lucas trilogy, because that's kind of what they are. He didn't have, he didn't have an editor or anybody who could pull him back because now he was the studio He became the thing that he was railing against and And he'd already kind of flip-flopped on a few things that frankly like they're really minor compared to the shit that we're talking about as far as JK Rowling goes but he He used to call out Ted Turner and be like, you can't alter films, man.

Like they are done. And then he goes and alters all his films and then uses that to make roll the the Lucas trilogy. So, you know, I think I think there's there's a there is a qualitative difference or there is there is an ethical difference, but I think, you know, if the film is made in black and white and you as somebody who was not involved in the making of that movie, go back and make alterations,

I see what you're saying about his artistic integrity when he then, you know, because that's what he called Turner out about, was colorizing. And then, you know, he went back to the Holy Trilogy, as you call it. And I'm forever going to call it going forward. And because I'm stealing that shit. Oh, yeah. That's like done.

And he went back and he did the remastered version. And I get what you're saying about, you know, if it's a done thing, leave it done, but it's him taking his own toy. Well, okay. So let me tell you what he said. These are his words. My name is George Lucas. I'm a writer, director and producer of motion pictures and chairman of the board of Lucas film, LTD, a multifaceted entertainment corporation. I'm not here today as a writer, director, or as a producer, or as a chairman of a corporation. I've come as a citizen of what I believe to be a great society

that is in need of a moral anchor to help define and protect its intellectual and cultural heritage. It is not being protected. The destruction of our film heritage with which is the focus of concern today is only tip of the iceberg. American law does not protect our painters, sculptors, recording artists, authors, or filmmakers from having their life work distorted and the reputation ruined.

If something is not done now to clearly state the moral rights of artists, current and future technologies will alter, mutilate, and destroy for future generations the subtle human truths and highest human feeling that talented individuals within our society have created. A copyright is held in trust by its owner until it ultimately reverts to public domain, American works of art belonging to the American public, they are part of our cultural history. So far so good. People who alter or destroy works of art and our cultural heritage for profit or as an exercise of power are barbarians. And if the laws of the United States continue to condone this behavior history will surely classify us as a barbaric society. The preservation of our cultural heritage may not seem to be as politically sensitive an issue as, quote, when life begins, or quote, when it should be appropriately terminated, but it is important because it gets to the heart of what sets mankind apart. Creative expression is that the core of our humanness, art is a distinctly human endeavor,

we must have respect for it if we are to have any respect for the human race. These current defacements are just beginning. Today, engineers with their computers can add color to black and white movies, change the soundtrack, speed up the pace, and add or subtract material to the philosophical taste of the copyright holder. Tomorrow, more advanced technology will be able to replace actors with fresher faces or altered dialogue and change the movement of actors' lips to match. It will soon be possible to create a new quote, original negative, when, with whatever changes or alterations,

the copyright holder of the moment desires. The copyright holders so far have not been completely diligent preserving the original negatives of the films they control. In order to reconstruct old negatives, many archivists had to go to Eastern block countries where American films have been better preserved. In the future, it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and, quote, replaced by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten. There's nothing to stop American films, records, books, and paintings from being sold to

foreign entity or egotistical gangsters and having them change our cultural heritage to suit their personal taste. I'm sorry, I'm going to hold on. Sure. Just to phrase, egotistical gangsters. Yeah. Wow. Okay.

All right. So, sorry, I just, that particular bit of, of, of, of garbage. So, so when, when did he say that? 1988. What? Okay. March 3rd.

All right. So, yeah, well, yeah, I, I do that has that has every, every home or are are being a congressional thing. He goes on for a bit and accuses and it's hyperbolic, but yeah, it's yeah. Yeah. You know, how much how much more naive were we when when whether or not movies ought to be colorized? Well, what was going on before Congress? Well, let's see, in 1988, we had just decided to give reparations to Japanese people who are Japanese Americans who'd been interned.

Yeah, yeah, but you get what you get that talking about. That was like, oh my, really? Yeah. Really? This was a big enough deal that it was before. And I do remember it, but it was oh so long ago. So those are his words. And then he also said to Charlie Rose in 2015

that he didn't like the direction that Disney was taking Star Wars. And that he felt like he sold his children to white slavers Yeah Yeah, I remember that quote right before you So like he's a problem. Yeah, well yeah, but yeah, Rowling is is a bigger one By far well, she's much a bigger one by far. And it's much more active problem right now. Yeah, well yeah, and yeah.

And the thing is, what you mentioned a minute ago about the fandom, I think is an important distinction. And I think what we should probably make clear here before we get started. With the part of the show, it's going to be lighthearted, we promise. Yes. Is that the universe that all of this happens and the overarching story of Good versus Evil and kindness and love of several different varieties and diversity. And all of that is what wins out in the end.

That is what we are attached to. That is what we are attached to, that is what we are passionate about, and that is the part of this that we are choosing to play with. Yeah. Yeah. And the statements of the author are unfortunate, and she sucks. Yes. But, yeah. Yes, but yeah, the world she created for us. It's you know Timothy Zahn once said we're playing with our Star Wars toys in George Lucas's driveway. Sometimes he'll back over them Which that's kind of what it is, you know, you're

You could see Ed is leaning back and back hard Oh, if you could see Ed is leaning back and back. Hard. That's such a Timothy's on the park. It really is. That's really great. Sometimes he'll back over them. Yeah. Yeah, I like that.

So, you know, she's kind of doing the same thing. She's made this great world. And you know what they say, like, art is never finished. It's abandoned. She should have abandoned it. Yeah. Yeah. She should have just walked away. Having said that, Marvel Comics has its own troublesome past as well. There's all kinds of not paying the artist's things. I am not blind to the fact that the very wrestling that

I love, for instance, is run by one of the most venal curves to ever venally curve. So I suppose you can you can add verb for those two words. Oh yeah, absolutely. Why not? Okay. Yeah. It's English. Don't get me started. Yeah. No, I don't. I've been translating all damn day. Like I've got Tremalky going through my head right now. So it's it's in Pliny like I'm whoo. All right, so bless you. Yes. So to start with we need to we've cleared the air on her. Yeah, a bit. Let's go back to what the four Hogwarts houses are. So we'll start with your favorite Griffindor. Well, yeah, my alma mater as you were. And I think going back to our discussion the last time we brought up Hogwarts as a main topic. What we came away with was Gryffindor's essentially the house that has no chill. Yes. They value courage, chivalry, daring, do. And very closely, very, very heavily identified

with the element of fire. Yep. You don't have to be the best at anything, by the way, because your courage is what makes you great. Yeah, okay. That's a very positive way to put it. Put it negatively. They are the house of don't look before you leap.

No chill. Yeah, poor impulse control. Yes. The house of poor impulse control. Yes, the house of no chill, I think is really. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Okay, let's take a look at the other side of their coin. Still the right.

Uh-huh. Values ambition, cunning, leadership. You ought to be the best at things because that will help everyone. Their water, put negatively, they're the house of elitism which can branch way too easily into bigotry. And both Gryffindor and Slytherin have a very self-directed aspect that in Gryffindor, I think it goes bad as narcissism, in Slytherin it goes bad as just straight up selfishness. I was gonna say authoritarianism. Okay, yeah, yeah, okay.

Little of any sympathy for those who are deemed unworthy. Yeah, so. Well, they're very, they're very, like if you didn't realize Mackey Avelli was a satire. Right. Their kind of outlook is like, okay, no look, this is all the great game.

And if I bend the game toward good ends, then I do good. And if I bend the game toward my own ends, then I get what I want. Right. You know, and having had a very illuminating, I would say back and forth a couple of years ago with one of my students, who was my favorite kid that year, and was a truly driven, slither-in individual. And we went back and I called her Fang face for a while, you know

Hey, how's it going? How's it going? Thanks. How you doing? And she'd just sniff at me and you know toss toss her hair and walk on I was fine But you know getting getting into really discussing it with her and bringing up the unfortunate culture of Slytherin and and the racism and all of that with her and bringing up the unfortunate culture of Slytherin and the racism and all of that with it. And then talking to her and she was African-American. And then talking with her and then hearing her opinions about race relations in the real

world, it was really interesting to me that her own outlook on it was very much no look. I'm looking out for me. And not in a, you know, not in a way that was entirely, you know, I'm just going to throw everybody else under the bus, but it was all very, very individual, me focused. Interesting. And I mean that's just one individual but I found it very interesting and a little bit illuminating that that seems to be kind of part of how that cluster of personality traits. Manifests. Kind of manifests. So anyway. Well that's water. Let's talk about Ravenclaw. Yep. They value intelligence, wit, learning, creativity.

For our previous discussion, you're searching for truth above all else because while we're here, put negatively, they're the house of getting lost in their own thoughts. The house of forgetting that other people are around. They're the house of paralysis through analysis. When they go bad in a fluffy way, you wind up getting Luna love good, who is the prototypical cloud cuckoo lander. Yes. Heart of gold, absolute sweetheart, wonderful, wonderful girl.

But like, okay, honey, we need to focus over here right now. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And the real world in its problems matter less than other plans. This is the house of air. Yeah. And that brings a hufflepuff, of course, the other side of the coin of Ravenclaw. Yes. They value hard work, patience, loyalty, fairness, immensely, immensely grounded. Yes, while they're earth, right? Yeah. You aren't the best at anything, but nobody has to be. Because in welcoming everyone, you're giving everyone

what they need most, which is a community. Yeah. Very earth, put negatively, they're the house that won't let go of grudges. Indeed. They're the house that won't let go of grudges. Indeed. They're the house of codependency. Mm-hmm. Clanichness. Yep. And the world cannot be left alone. They are always having to metal to make it better. Okay. Sorry. Now, that's the four houses. That's the place from which we're leaping. Now, moving forward, I'm only going to do the Marvel Superheroes

because we all know my feelings on DC. But I'll throw in what little I know on them as well. So we're gonna start with a very easy team, the Avengers. However, I'm leaving out Thor and Hulk because those guys aren't really superheroes, they're forces of nature, more than they are superheroes. So, let's start with you're in my iconic favorite, Captain America.

Okay. What house would you put them in? Okay, so this is a dude who grew up as an invalid. And even as an invalid, if somebody decided they were going to bully him, his response was, as he picked himself up literally from the gutter, I can do this all day. When he got turned down to join the draft because he was like six F, not even just four F. Dude, sunken chest, you know, has my, you know, that'll keep you out right away.

Yeah, well, yeah, you know, he lied repeatedly going to multiple different draft, you know, stations to try to get in. So, and that's, and that's before he became a super soldier. So, based on our archetypal argument of what house is what, then this one is a pretty big slam dunk, I think, for Griffin Dore. Yeah, he is the poster boy for Griffin. He's not the smartest, but he is the leader. Yeah, he's not the strongest, but he's the first one into the fight. Yeah, he's not doing it just for the person next to him, either, he's doing it because everyone who's yet to have someone fight for

them need someone to fight for them. And I think there's also an important component like I mentioned, one of the traits that comes with being a Gryffindor or the dispart of that is a certain self-directedness. Self self directedness and and part of the thing is Steve has a very personal no no I am not going to do this, so I have to do it. And even if he didn't have the capacity, he still had to do it. Like you said, his statement of, I can do this all day is not one of patience, it's one of endurance. It's, I will wear you down by getting beaten up. I will make your fist bleed with my nose.

So courage despite over. And where can jagged edges of my teeth? Yeah, courage despite over- And where can jagged edges of my teeth? Yeah, courage despite overwhelming odds. Yeah. His cause is just, therefore he can fight for it no matter the odds. And then my favorite quote of his, which is, doesn't matter what the press says, doesn't matter what the politicians or the mob say, doesn't matter if the whole country decides that something wrong is something right.

This nation was founded on one principle above all else, the requirement that we stand up for what we believe, no matter the odds or the consequences. When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree besides the river of truth and tell the whole world, no, you move. Yep. That's some pretty goddamn lion and scarlet and gold shit right there. Ain't it though. Yeah. All right, next one. Yeah. Hawkeye.

Give me one sentence for why you think he belongs in whatever house you think he belongs. Oh. I'm going to say Ravenclaw because air element in his narcher. Mm-hmm. And, and he isn't born with a preter natural level of ability. Because air element in his nurture and and He isn't born with a preternatural level of ability. He isn't gifted with some level of preternatural ability He's he is what he is as a hero because he trained for it. Okay. I like it. I'm gonna say he's Hufflepuff Because okay, he cares about the people around him and he fights for them.

He cares deeply for them despite his gruff exterior, right? He's also extremely patient despite being a hothead in the comics. And here's a quote from him, you're going to miss each and every shot you can't be bothered to take. That's not living life. That's just being a tourist. Take every shot, Kate. If it's worth caring about, no matter how impossible you think it is, you take the shot. Now, here's why I say that he's helpful puff more than Ravenclaw or Griffindor.

In the comics, he was put in charge of the Thunderbolts. Yeah. And when the Thunderbolts got canceled, he kept it going and he was doing it rogue. Why? Because he saw that former villains were actually acting like heroes and he was loyal to their processes. He put himself at risk to keep them good and he's the consummate underpowered overachiever. And he does it with this stern earnestness that you don't see others using. Clint Barton is driven by loyalty.

And he was a thirsty bitch a long time in the Avengers. Yeah, well, yeah. Okay, yeah, no, actually, I see that and that leads me to probably my favorite series of Hawkeye stories is the Matt Fraction run where he's broke, he's not an Avenger anymore, and he winds up going up against the Russian mob or Ukrainian mob or whatever. And it's one of those series that we're're both in that, you know, Hawkeye fan club on Facebook. Right. And the fraction run is one of those things that like, you know, one group of fans is like me. They're like, no, no, that is amazing comic storytelling.

Like, no, you, you, and the other group is like, no, man, they, they, they, they, they, overplayed the comedy, they turned him into a joke, he got his ass kicked repeatedly, it's just, you know, he's making quips all the time. And the thing is, I mean, my own argument, not to say those guys are wrong, because, you know, it's a matter of opinion. Right. I mean, they are wrong. But for me, the thing about that series is, Um, for me, the thing about that, that series is, he winds up getting sucked into this, this chain of events that, that get him just beat the hell up repeatedly because he's trying to look out for the people in, in his apartment building on his block. Right.

We're being victimized by these guys. He's found his tribe and he's going to love them. Yeah, and you know it's kind of the hufflepuff version of 308 rules like no man I love these people. I got a I can protect them. I got to protect that. Right. And yeah and I don't want to give too much away because clearly you haven't read the series. I'm, yeah.

I really should. All right. So, okay, yeah, I'll give you a helpful off there. That makes sense. Now, we're going to take a quick commercial break and I'm going to come back to Black Widow. So I want you to think about what house you want her in. Again, one to two sentences as to why.

And we'll do that right after the commercial starting now. Hello Geek Timers, this is producer George, interrupting this podcast to let you know that we have space available. This space could be used to promote your product, book, event, group, even wish a special someone happy birthday. If you're interested in using this space, please contact us on Twitter via private message at Geek History Time. And we're back. All right, so when we got ahead of the commercial, I said think about Black Widow and what house she belongs in. So what do you say?

Okay, so I'm kind of torn because you caught me off guard with Hufflepuff a second ago. And now I'm trying to think about it. And the thing is I can't quite make up my mind between her being a slither in because ends versus means. Good point. Is like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm sorry. No, you you you have done this bad thing and all of my friends over here are are light and airy goodness I'm just gonna kill you all right, right, you know But by the same token there there is Again the extent to which she was made into what she is by all of that training and there is this this level of all of that training and there is this level of, well, you know, I was going to say self-discipline. Actually, the more I talk about it, the more I'm going to go back to Slytherin. I think her being a determinator, the manner in which she is, no, no, I have decided I'm going to accomplish this goal. And I will do literally whatever it takes to accomplish it. You have a choice.

You can work with me or you can, or you can wind up a body on the floor. I will agree with you as to what how she sorts in actually. She's the other underpowered overachiever of the group. She's a totally different character than Hawkeye though She's what you get if you take a slither and train them in assassination Yeah She's all about resourcefulness getting the mission accomplished like you said and using her particular skills to do it The truth doesn't matter to her nearly as much as the accomplishment of the mission

In fact, she even I've got a quote for everybody. Here's my quote for her. Picking your own jobs means you get to exercise your own ethics, but ethics isn't a science, which is to say you do your best, but that doesn't make you right. She's able to get what she needs from a foe through charm, guile, seduction, violence, fear, playing hurt, pretty much anything. Everything is a tool to her, everything. My final quote. Every one.

Yes. On some level, absolutely. Yeah. My final quote about her is, quote, you might think I'm cold-hearted, I am. I can't afford distractions. I've got work to do. Yeah, yeah, that's that's that's pretty snakeface right there. Yep. All right, let's talk about vision.

Well, okay, he one sentence, one sentence, the mind stone. Yeah, okay okay if ever there was a character who is more clearly a Ravenclaw I cannot imagine a better example yeah just then just Android created by a genius yeah yeah and yeah and Android created by a genius who at least in in the films is literally animated by a magical item that is directly tied to intellect. Yeah. It's a little different in the comics, but I still think in the comics you still have all intellect, no passion. He's got everything calculated, everything figured out, and he tells you all about it ad nauseam. Even when he decides to murder people, it's an issue of intellect for him. Okay, so when you say, even when he decides to murder people,

this is in the comments. Which leads me to the question, are you talking about the vision short run where the vision has a family of other visions. No. Have you read that? No. Remember, I'm all the way back in the 1960s stuff.

I'm still reading. Yeah, don't. Oh, right. I will get through getting, yeah, well, you know, in 25 years. Yeah. Yeah. I'm doing the work now so I can read the comics. Okay.

All right. Here's a wonderful, oh, yeah, yeah, I'm doing work now so I can read the comments. Okay. Okay, all right. Here's a wonderful, oh yeah, yeah, go ahead. But in that series, and there's, it would be almost impossible for me to spoil it because there's so many different plot twists involved. But the short form of the conceit is Scarlet Witch is for whatever reason out of the picture and he winds up creating himself a family all of whom are sort of him but one of them is Mrs. Vision and then he has a son in quotes and a daughter in quotes who are also of course, Androids and it is a remarkable study of what exactly is humanity.

And it gets really grim. I like like I mean, it gets dark. I like, I mean, it gets dark, but in a remarkably good way, it's amazing writing. Nice. So anyway. Yeah. Well, so here's a quote from him. Quote, another correction, Ironman. My brain is a miniaturized high speed computer.

I always know precisely what I am doing. I am killing him. It was, Ironman tried to stop vision from killing somebody and he's like you might kill him He's like no, I am killing him. What's wrong with you? He gets completely lost in his own thoughts and Then he can't work his way out of them because he's fully convinced that he's right Here's another quote. I have an equation in In the eight years since Mr. Stark announced himself as Iron Man, this is from the MCU.

The number of known enhanced persons has grown exponentially. And during the same period, the number of potentially world ending events has risen at a commensurate rate. I'm saying there may be a causality. Our very strength invites challenge, challenge insights, conflict and conflict breeds catastrophe.

Oversight, oversight is not an idea that can be dismissed out of hand So his solution is to back Ironman's plan and fight hard against heroes He's so smart, but at the same time he can't see the manipulations actually being played by Baron Zemo And that's super duper raven claw So smart that you absolutely missed a bigger plan because you're so convinced that you're right and you don't think outside of that. Oh yeah, well, and it's also, I'm just gonna throw in here,

this is also kind of something that would be very zinchi in the Warhammer universe. Oh, Warhammer series. I don't understand that. I don't understand that. Yeah, no, the 4K ask God's, Zinch is commonly referred to as the God of magic, God of knowledge. Okay. But he is also the God of wheels within wheels, plots within plots. And he is three steps ahead of everybody else.

three steps ahead of everybody else. He's also three steps ahead of himself. Yeah. And so it's like congratulations, you outthought yourself into a box. Yeah. Yeah. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, you know, you get in the metaphysics of how chaos works. And, and he, essentially, he winds up his, his plots fail as often as they succeed because they are needlessly complicated. And because his agents get so caught up and how brilliant they are that they don't, they don't see the big picture. Right. Yeah, I could see that.

Yeah, that's exactly what happened in the Civil War movie. Yeah. The next one is gonna be Iron Man. So give me one sentence as to why you think he's in the house that he's in. Oh man. So the temptation of columnist Litheran is like ridiculous,

just because ambition drive, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me. Griffin door is tempting because me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, zero chill. Sure. However, all of that winds up coming back around to he is absolutely convinced. He is the smartest guy in the room. When he's in the room with Reed Richards, his argument would be, well, I'm still effectively

the smartest guy in the room because Reed has a higher IQ, but I'm an engineer and he's a theorist. Right. And so Ravenclaw. Okay. You triangulated, but you came back to Ravenclaw now I would argue that if ever there was evidence that being smart isn't enough to be in Ravenclaw Ironman is it

Gryffindor no slither and throw and crew. He is he makes decisions unilaterally He's fully convinced that he's the only one that gets it Okay, and this is actually true in the movies and the comics Laterally, he's fully convinced that he's the only one that gets it. And this is actually true in the movies and the comics. Quote, I shouldn't be alive unless it was for a reason. I know what I have to do and I know it is right. He does not care that other people struggle along the way. They should just trust him to do the right thing and get in line.

Okay. All right. I see what you're saying. I see it. He's it's tough because he has so many because he's an example of a hero who like all of his flaws are so it's like a jacket he wears. Yeah. That you can just you can see every one of his personality flaws. Yeah. And it's like he's wearing a jumpsuit of like a NASCAR driver and you see all his sponsors. The patches, yeah. But instead it's all of his vices.

Yeah, and for me, it's his, no, no, I know what I've got to do. And runs off and doing shit. Right. And so that was the reason I kind of came around to, you know, to really get that being gripped. I was like, yeah, for a second, cause I'm like, cause, cause, you know, he has, he has no impulse control, like at all. He revels in that.

He, yeah, he wallows in it, like, yeah. But ultimately that's a front that he puts up. That's how he keeps people back. Okay, yeah. Okay, all right, all right. I'm still, I gotta say, I think this going to be one we're going to be split on. I do still think Ravenclaw. Okay. Because his his determination that he's right. Mm-hmm. Isn't about

Him. Okay. If you get what I mean it's he he he he he he is still focused on You know, I have all the fact I'm the one who has thought it out better than everybody else right But is he really looking for the truth in that or is he Convinced of his own genius? Okay, the ego, the ego. Because that, because he fronts the no chill and the playboy stuff, but in reality, well, here's another quote from him,

is it better to be feared or respected? I say is it too much to ask for both? Yeah. And of course, here's this one. Give me a break. I'm doing what has to be done to stave off something worse. Like that's straight out of the MCU. Yeah.

And in the comics, he's similar, by the way. This is like the one character that MCU didn't change that much at all. In Civil War, where he really came into his own, because prior to that, he was kind of a backbencher. Stark said this to Steve Rogers' corpse and it was a really emotional scene but you know, Cap is dead. I know this because the worst has happened. The thing I can't live with has happened and for all our back and forth and all the things we've said and done to each other, there's one thing that I'll never be able to tell anyone now.

The one thing, the one thing I should have told you, but now I can't. It wasn't worth it. Everything I've done, everything I'll do today, everything I'll ever do is I do to protect the world. When I put on this armor, I took on more power than any human was ever intended to have and maybe more responsibility Than my heart can truly bear which I love that because the heart was the reason he had to make the armor Yeah, but today I will do my job and I will protect you no matter what it takes This is something he said to someone later But the fact that he said I have figured out now that it wasn't worth it But it's not him who had to pay the damn price. Like, he did in that he lost his friend,

but his friend lost his life. And he lost his own self-respect, but the end still justified the means. Tony Stark has always been ambitious, resourceful, he lead us to his fork. And sometimes he's been absolutely right, and other times he's been right, but we don't want him to be. And other times still he's been absolutely right, and other times he's been right, but we don't want him to be.

And other times still, he's dead fucking wrong, and no matter what, nobody's able to persuade him. And to me, that's as slither and as it gets. See, and I'm gonna do a weird thing here just real quick. My dog is very old and he needs to go potty. So we're taking another short break for the dog. I will be right back. So we're back.

The dog is a little bit lighter. I will give you the short version of Thor and Hulk both. They're Hufflepuff. We'll move on. And if you look at them for any little bit, they really kind of are. Yeah. Yeah. Thor is protecting all of Asgard.

Hulk just wants to be left alone, but he really doesn't want to just be left alone. He's not Betty. Well, one, he really doesn't want to just be left alone. And you know, he, he is in fact, Adless. Yeah. Yeah. So like the earth element thing is just too strong to not be. Okay. Next team Guardians of the Galaxy. Alright, we'll start with Star Lord. God dammit, I hate

to say this, but he's a fucking griffin door. 100%. He is the... He never has a plan. Nope. He is completely wrapped up in anti-pretty. Never looks before he leaves. He is the biggest dumbest fucking hothead. He is. Leads with his heart. His heart is entirely in the right place.

Yep. But he's a dick. Like, like, he's dumb as shit. Oh, damn. And he is the ostensible leader when they're absent NS Guardian. Here's a quote by Star Lord. Quote, I don't mind dying

like the valiant intergalactic hero that I am, but the least you could do is pay attention. Yeah. I feel attacked. Without any of the enduring qualities that Cap brings to the table, you get Star Lord. Yeah, well, yeah, none of the self-sacrifice, none of the team player, none of the actical intelligence. Right.

He's got a hell of a lot of charm to him though. He is what happens when your dumpstat is intelligence and you put everything into charisma. Cap is what you get when your dumpstat is none of them. He's completely well balanced. Well, okay, I am going to say I think if Cap has anything that qualifies as a dumpstatt It would be Wisdom I would agree to by virtue of not having a self-preservation instinct. Yeah, I would agree with that. I would Um, man, really, but he still really doesn't have one and um, yeah, Starlord is Yeah, he took all his points and put them in charisma. He, you'll roll your eyes the whole time that

he's leading the team. Um, but he's charming. Here's, here's another quote, I almost made it work. The Guardians were more than I could have ever hoped for. But the universe is also more dangerous than I ever imagined. Look around. this is the kind of thing that can happen. The galaxy doesn't need guardians, it doesn't need brave souls. If it's going to survive another one of these, it's going to need absolute bad asses. It's going to need the biggest guns of all. Cosmic heavy hitters is scariest the menace is they have to face. It's going to need flurking annihilators. No question that he's going to fight it. The other question is, how hard?

Yeah, and how big are the guns? He's literally having the guns he's taking there. Yeah, and yeah, he is what happens when you wind up putting a bard in the position of being the party leader. Not just the party's face man. Right. Like, that's the default, that's the go-to, that's the skill set.

Right. No, no. He's what happens when it's, no, no, we're taking our orders from the fucking bar. Yeah. Not the fighter, the wizard no no the bar Like your adventures will be fun and musical But but the likelihood of TP K goes up by about 300 percent You know and and and on top of that on top of that

You know, it's it's it's every encounter involves everybody drawing aggro. Right. Because that's the go-to, that's what they do. So the tactic is, yeah, I'm picking a fight. Yep. Wait, you're the bard. You could talk us out of this. No, he's a dick. I'm picking a fight. Yep. could talk us out of this. He's a dick. I'm picking a fight. Yep. You know, yeah, I'm just I'm just picturing the the fighter in that party looking around. Like, am I taking crazy pills?

Yeah. Like, speaking of the fighter, let's talk about tracks. Oh, yeah, probably not the fighter, probably the barbarian, but give me one sentence as to why you think he belongs in the house. Good Morris. Good Morris. Yeah. Give me one sentence as to why you think he belongs in the house. Good morris. Good morris. The fight is a fight. Well, I don't know.

Actually, she might be the rogue because she strikes me with more DPS than a tank. But anyway, he is a hundred percent huffle buff. Well, I get a really strong, I get a really strong, or a elemental vibe from him. His entire motivation, like the source of all of his rage, is the death of his family. Good point. And his desire to avenge them and avenge the people of his planet. He is, he is not a deep thinker. Also true. And he, as you notably point out, he is not the best of the group really at

anything. He is remarkably strong. But he is, and he is a very skilled combatant, but he is, you know, but Gamora can take him down and is stronger than he is. His biggest asset is his deep, deep wellspring of rage and the fact that he is a determinator. Okay. I put him in Gryffindor. If he was more cunning, I'd put him in Slytherin, but he's not more cunning.

And here's why. Like you said, he's driven by the sole purpose to kill Thanos. Yeah, ultimately, it's to kill Thanos. Wipe him off the map. And the problem with that, and yes, he's doing it to avenge his family. The problem with that is in the comic books, he does it at the worst possible time. He does not consider the consequences of his actions. And that's why I put him in Gryffindor. He never looks before he leaps. He never plans shit out. He has zero impulse control.

He has zero fucking chill. That's why I put him there. But I totally get what you said about the Hufflepuff except he puts his a desire for, you know, the mission ahead of his concern about anybody else's well-being. I think a Hufflepuff would think that out. You know, I think I'm going to argue that I think a Hufflepuff-gone dark side might not. I think, because again, and again, I get back to the metaphor of the of the earth. Sure. Elemental thing. Somebody who gets. Well, he's here's, well, here's, yeah, he is,

but the thing is look at his look at his build. Look at look at the kind of stance we normally see him in. He's in this very broad kind of stance squat. And the, yes, he's dealing with these incredible feelings of rage, but it is this constant kind of black fury. It's not like Peter Quill is a hot head who gets angry at something and punches Thanos at the wrong time and kills half the universe. Right. Okay. Well, okay, drags.

Dracks did that in the comics. He did exactly that. Conquette. Thanos was gonna bring balance back. He saw how fast he'd tip it out and Dracks killed him. And they're like, what did you do? He's like, done matter. In fact, here's a quote, the Guardians have always been a serviceable distraction,

but this is my life's work. I must get my revenge against Thanos and with the entire team following their own agendas, I will follow suit. I will kill Thanos. All right. I mean, it's a compelling argument. I, I... Again, you could, I even have it in my notes. You could argue that he's helpful, but due to his loyalty is shown in the movies. But the fact that he's so singular-minded, sacrifice everything for his goal, mentality, put some closer to Slytherin, but he has no cunning, and he has no chill, therefore,

Gryffindor. Yeah, all right. All right. I see where your argument is based. I don't know, just on a gut level. I know, I know. You know, but he is a dysfunctional hufflepuff. And what we decided was last time that if people would fuck up the house that they were

supposed to be in, they go to Griffith. They go to Griffith. And then they get told they're the worst. Yeah, there's no chill. And then they get to win. All right, Pocket Raccoon. Rocket Raccoon is when a Ravenclaw is a dick bag. Yes, he loves devices, he loves repairs,

he loves things that go boom, he shows no ambition beyond mischief. Here's one quote. And all the while in the middle of all that crazy, despite the certain death stuff, I was still looking for an angle, the out, the fluke, the miracle play, that one opportunity, that one break, the genius way we could combine our skills or exploit their weaknesses and bust out of that death trap alive. Like I told you, I'm a tactical genius, always looking, always looking, no

matter how hopeless things seem, and there none we were dead certain death curtains good night Then the sun came out Yeah, yeah, he's what happens when you abuse a Ravenclaw beyond all reason and don't get them into therapy Yeah, he's what happens when Ravenclaw gets weaponized Yeah, all thought and totally lost in it well, all thought and totally lost in it. Well, all thought and there is somewhere in the depth of his damaged heart, there is a kernel of empathy, but you really got to dig deep to get it to the surface. Yeah. And otherwise, he's just, he's deeply, deeply angry at the universe and he's gonna get his pound of flesh by just

annoying the shit out of everybody. Yeah. Now, totally. Good morning. This one was very obvious to me. This one was very obvious to me. Yeah, I'm going to go with Slytherin. Yep. She can tell you more ways than Black Widow can.

Yeah, she's, she is, she is. Literally the most dangerous woman in the galaxy. Yeah, and they're in a very meaningful way. The two of them are built on the same archetype. Yeah. She stood toe to toe with Thanos and poked him in the goddamn throat. Yeah, like that's pretty gross. Yeah. Yeah, well, it's ruthless and just like widow, she was made into that through grueling, you know, Darwinian training, torture, emotional manipulation, all of the above.

And she, and then both of them have now come out the other side wanting to try to do right by the universe, you know. But by any means necessary. But by any means necessary. And again, ends versus means. Like, well, okay, yeah, I mean, we did, we did shoot the guy in his sleep, but he was bad. Right, she would have been okay

with killing baby Thanos. Oh yeah. Oh, she would have been okay with killing baby Thanos. Oh yeah, oh, oh. In fact, here's a quote from her, children make for terrible soldiers, but they make for wonderful spies. Whoa. Oh, that's not comfortable at all. But that's her.

Yeah, yeah. So yeah. All right, so let's go on to the X-Men. I'm gonna stay, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So. All right. So let's go on to the X-Men. Um, I'm going to stay. Wait, hold on. Yeah. Back up.

What? Back up. Okay. Groot. I'm sorry. I skipped Groot. Obviously he's what? Hufflepuff.

Yeah. Yeah. He's the heart of the team. Yeah. Unfortunately, he's not particularly quotable, so I don't have a quote for him. But he is tremendously loyal to his friends. Here's what Rocket says about him. Okay. He says, see me.

I don't really care about people. I spend most of my time shooting them, but Groot, Groot likes people. Always sees the best in him. Gives him a shot. And even if it hurts, even if he always goes out of his way to help, Groot makes friends everywhere he goes. He puts himself out there, even when he shouldn't. However, once a while, he does

say something himself. Here's something I got. I think I found this from Groot, actually. Time is strange. At first, it feels boundless, but it always flees. Is fleeting. Soon our time belongs to others, and it races by. But before we know it, time runs out, and we lose the chance to thank the ones who meant the most to us, who made us what we are. Because of her, I learn the greatest truth I know. One I live by every day. I chance to thank the ones who meant the most to us, who made us what we are. Because of her, I learned the greatest truth I know. One I live by every day. I want to thank her. I want to thank the person who showed me that a kinder universe was out there and that

kindness is worth the risk. I found Groot saying that at one point. It was like probably the one time that he talked. You know, it's like when you saw Snake Eyes' face for the first time in a time. Groot sacrifices himself for his friends and he does whatever he's told within the group. He is a follower, he is happy for the family. So yeah, Groot, Groot, and he grows from the earth.

I mean, he's a true. All right, so now onto the X-Men. And I'm only gonna look at the popular X-Men, so sorry, Angel. But let's start with Storm. Oh, all right. I'm going to say Ravenclaw. OK.

Because I mean, right off the bat, weather goddess. OK, yeah. there's error there. Number one, number one, error element, number two, there are a couple of really great points in recent kind of analysis of story, where it really becomes clear that she has a very definite idea of what being immune means about what, you know, their role in the world is and it's something that clearly, you know, has been very much thought out on her part, but it's also something that

clearly has been very much thought out on her part, but it's also something that has not actually been bounced off of anybody else, and it's all kind of this construct of her own. Okay. You know, and yeah, that's where I'm gonna go with that. All right, I'm gonna say she's Slytherin, which makes it three for three, the women in Marvel, who are on teams say she's Slytherin, which makes it three for three the women in Marvel who are on teams end up being Slytherin. Here's why she's a queen. Okay. She is the elite. She's a

natural leader who even defeats Cyclops for leadership of the X-Men at one point. And here's a quote from her, if we don't act everything and everyone we've ever cared for dies It's time to me my X-Men the war for survival has begun Okay, she also recognizes the stakes under which she's playing She's cunning she actually sort of cheated to beat Cyclops and she was willing to manipulate Calisto when dealing with the more locks and she was willing to manipulate Kalisto when dealing with the more locks. Here's a quote here, I have tried being her leader, I've tried being her friend. It never holds for long. In my opinion, being Kalisto's nightmare might work best in the long term. Her new scars should aid her memory this time.

Storm can be a cold-hearted woman. She really gets. Wow. Yeah, all right. hold hard and won't she really. That's wow. Yeah. All right. And I think because of how cunning she is and because she's such a natural leader, when she's on, she's a great leader and when she's off, she's an asshole. And that's tyrant. Yes. That's a really good way to put it.

And she's more than happy to step into being a tyrant if it means getting the job done. And abusing people who've been used to abuse. So I would put her in ends versus means again, as kind of that final, final tick mark. Yeah. Kind of makes me question Marvel's imagination when it comes to women too so Well, okay, yeah, I'm gonna then then I'm gonna say then let's let's look at you pride Okay, good point good point or want a maximum off Yeah, not a bad point, you know fair very firm, you know, I mean, you know Emma Frost doesn't disprove your claim at all

You know, I mean, you know Emma Frost doesn't disprove your claim at all But again bad guy So also I wouldn't put her in slithering No, so I you're right, you're right. Okay. Okay, Jean Gray is a hundred and ten percent Ravenclaw. Yes Hundred and oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, very power is tied up in there. All right. Yeah, yeah, yeah psychops Yeah, very power is tied up in there. All right, so, yeah, Cyclops. I'm gonna say Hufflepuff. Interesting. Because he's all about team.

Right. I think you're right later in life, because he goes bad guy. Yeah. He's now a bad guy, and it's super Hufflepuff, his motivations. But I actually, I put him in Gryffindor Although I think you might have a better point there. Here's here's the saying Gryffindor Gryffindor was my was my knee jerk response because Boy scout right, you know

Look at me a strong-jawed hero guy, right? But no me a strong, jawed hero guy, right? But no, because he, he, number one, he was, he, he does not have the, and now we're just gonna, you know, go straight out of him, you know, kind of, you know, he's, he's very much a, a, he's, he's a team attack Titian. Mm-hmm. On a very mechanical level. He is the guy who's always saying, guys, we gotta keep training, we gotta keep training. We gotta practice this, we gotta get this right. But a lot of that comes out of his sense of purpose

that's tied to a sense of duty. To me, that kind of more griffin door. But I see what you mean. But the thing is, I think sense of duty is something that the Gryffindor Hufflepuff and anybody can can be, can be motivated by a sense of duty. I think, I think what, what makes the difference in this case is that his focus with that sense of duty is not like Harry in the books. Harry is working on,

I need to be strong enough. I need to be powerful enough. I need to be the one to run off. And my friends are brave and loyal and everything and they come with me. But the focus is, you know, I'm the one who's got to stop the mark. And that's very, and that's very,

and that, you know, cap is, no, no, I'm the super soldier. I'm Captain America. I'm gonna head off and do this, you know, whereas everything Scott does. I mean, the occasions on which Scott runs off by himself to be the guy who saves the day alone. I think you're looking at a real bear.

Only as good guys though. I think he's what happens when Gryffindor goes bad. He's not resourceful enough to be slithering. He only has one speed and one direction. I mean, his very power is fire coming from his eyes going forward. He's Captain Nochil. And here's why he's certainly Captain Titus. Yeah, that too.

No, I know. In the beginning, he was the Staggi one-dimensional leader, but later he becomes the insurrectionist in chief, right? He killed Xavier because he said Xavier was going the wrong way with the X-Men. That's what happens when no chill goes bad. Yeah, okay. All right, I see what you're saying. I'm out of touch with those, with those plotlines. Okay, so here's an older period. Here's a quote. I'm thinking of Stadjim.

Here's a quote from him talking to Xavier. You almost ruined everything. Your school will now have new mutant students, thanks to me. And you just hope that whoever writes your history skims over how the headmaster almost doomed the entire species when he tried to kill Hope, Hope is an actual mutant. She was the first one born after the House of M that had powers. Imagine if you succeeded.

There are people who get to judge me Logan. Okay, so he's talking to Wolverine. I don't think you're among them. Though that's you here, right? Judge and jury, and I know how Jean felt now. More than ever. I understand her even better than before. In a way, you never will.

I'm a dead weight now. I've done everything I can do and I die now. I die now and I'm a martyr. And in a few years, some rebellious little kid is gonna turn up at your school with me on his t-shirt saying, Cyclops was right. Wow, you're a dick.

Right. Like, like, wow. Yeah. You know, in the X-Men movies, he's kind of this milk toast, you know, Dudley, Dewright, you know, stick with the zazz. Yeah, they kept me through to the early stuff. Okay, and see, that's the guy that I think is the hufflepuff. I think this guy, this guy,

yeah, is somebody gone bad. Like who pissed in your cornflakes asshole? In fairness, most of the world tried to exterminate mutants. Like, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I've been inside that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Besides attempt at genocide.

Beside what have they ever done to you? What have they ever done to you? Yeah. OK, based on that set of characterizations, I see what you're going with. The Scott Summers that I am familiar with from when I was regularly reading the X-Men. The one we grew up with. The one we grew up with is more, more puff-puff than than Griffin Doar, but I get what you're saying. All right, I'll finish this episode with beast,

and then we're going to need to do another episode because the X-Men have just a lot of goddamn members. So beast is really obvious. He is a Ravenclaw. Yeah. He's also one of my favorite guys. He's blue. And for some reason I really like blue superheroes, like I like him and I like Nightcrawler a lot. But he's way smart. He's blue. He's furry. There's just something kind of cool and quirky about him Yeah, and he very quickly gets lost in his own funniness Well, okay, he is if I was a mutant I think yeah pretty pretty much I think I think he's your avatar Yeah, I think you're right in the X-Men universe Which then opens up whole can worms I don't want to get into it because I don't

know who mine is. And I don't know if I want to know the answer. Well, you want it to be Wolverine. Well, I mean, that's the set of powers I'd want to have. Yeah. Well, it's just also that attitude of I am correct. Here I go. I don't know what you're talking about. Uh-huh. No, yeah. What? Yeah. Whereas, I just want to get lost on my own little puns. Speaking of which, here's a quote, four warned his four armed mism, but four arms do not great, do not great feats make.

So feats don't fail me now. Yep. So. And in addition to being witty, he's also wildly intellectual. Here's another quote. Our very presence here. 3,000 some odd years in the past could have irreparable consequences to the timeline. Imagine the butterfly effect, extrapolated over 1,000 years.

Every step we take puts the future at risk, and you're talking about stuffing out one of the most profoundly influential villains in all of human history. That's the biggest butterfly effect of them all. So while he's one of the most acrobatic heroes, he's also one of the most brilliant, especially when it comes to genetics. Yep. So, yeah. You don't get more regular.

Yeah, he's the science hero of the team. Yeah. Yeah. All right, so let's stop it there. We'll start up next week's show with Wolverine. And we'll just do a quick recap of the houses and why we're sorting. Yeah.

Yeah. So what comic books would you recommend? What comic book series would you recommend based on our discussions tonight? Oh, well, based on our discussions tonight. Mm-hmm. Oh, damn it. I don't remember.

You said someone, you can just give us the plot line because people can find it easy. So you said the one where Clint takes on the Ukrainian mob. Well, yeah, the Mad Fraction run of the Hawkeye comic, which involves both Clint and Kate Burton at different points. And it's a rollicking good dime. And there is a trade paperback now that I have somewhere on my bookshelf behind me, but I don't have it in front of me, but it is the secret history of when Captain America

and the Helen Commando's and Nick Fury in World War II wound up going to Wakanda. Oh, neat. And it is, and of course they run into Black Panther, who is the prior Black Panther to... To Chaka instead of Chala. Yeah, to Chaka instead of Chala. And it is a really, really good read

and it gets into some very meaningful questions about colonialism, colonial attitudes. Nice. And one of the viewpoint characters is a member of the Helen Commando's who is a black man. And he gets put in the position by Nick Fury of, well, you know, while we're here, see who you can talk to and, you know, make nice with the locals, because you can blend in with these guys. And we're asked to ask, can't. And it's this, you know, for the war effort, you know,

right, king and country. Yeah, well, and cap, and it's a meaningful comparison between Nick Fury's approach and Caps' approach. Caps is talking to Chacaka, and of course because it's Cap and he is the big blue boy scout. The real big blue boy scout. He is being completely up front like, no man, whatever you're gonna give us,

you're gonna give us, and I'm not gonna try to, we're guests in your country, I'm not gonna try to push you on that. I mean, well, Nick Fury being, you know, a prototypical OSS agent is like, okay, really? Yeah, we got it. We got to get an angle. We have to get leverage somehow.

We got to find something. And, and, you know, this, this member of his team winds up getting, winds up being the one who gets put in this position of, is that I say it broadly? You know, or is it? I don't, I think so, but I don't know for sure. Okay. I don't remember, and I feel horrible that I don't remember a boss stop of my head.

But anyway, it's a great read. Okay. And, yeah, it's really, really good talking about, you know, CAP. Yeah. I'm gonna suggest Avengers versus X-Men because there are a few comics that strike me so hard that I'm just like, this is beautiful and this will always be.

Avengers versus X-Men, they basically are fighting over this mutant named Hope and they're also fighting I think over, yeah they're fighting over Hope. And essentially the Phoenix Force is coming down and the Avengers are like we have to take her into custody so that it doesn't get her because she's super powerful. And the X-Men are like no that, that's not going to happen, man. You will take care of our own. And then the Phoenix Force invades and takes over Colossus, Magic, Cyclops, Emma Frost, and I, oh, and Namor.

Takes over all five of them because Namor is a mutant Yeah, that's a thing that's been true for a while So it takes over all five of them and then as each of them get defeated the other four get more powerful and then the three get more powerful then the two and then Cyclops basically is like sorry Emma your dead and he takes over all the power because the uns just to find the means basically is like, sorry, Emma, you're dead. And he takes over all the power because the unsjustified the means. And then he ends up getting,

oh, it's an insane story, but here's the thing. They had so many of these battles that you always wanted to see. So like Hawkeye versus Gambit. But my favorite one was when it was Black Panther versus Storm, and they've been married for a while. Oh yeah.

They're on opposite sides of this conflict, and what you see, and it's like, it's tear-inducing, how sad it is, you see in purple box text his thoughts, and in yellow box text, her thoughts, as they're beating the shit out of each other and using their powers on each other and negating each other. And there's just like, no matter what happens, I'm so sorry that it had to come to this. It's just their internal monologue. The very last one, you see the box text and the battle is completed. I think it was a draw.

Both of them say in the previous panel no matter what happens There's one thing that's gonna be true And in the next panel one of them says I never should have married her and the other one says I will always love this man And it wrecked me No kidding. Yeah, It's hard to read. Wow. Yeah. If you're so, you're watching the disillusion of their marriage as they're fighting over very important ideological things. Also, Peter Parker tells hope that with great power comes great responsibility, which he starts off as a bit of a joke, and then he spins it into this really long monologue

about what it actually means to be a hero. It's really well done. So I recommend Avengers versus X-Men. So. All right. Where can we find you on social medias? On the social media, I can be found on Twitter at EH Blalock. And I can be found on Instagram at MrBlaylock and

you can find me as one half or one third, sorry producer George, as one third of our of our trivia, you can find me at Geek History Time on Twitter. Cool. How about you? You can find me on the Insta and on the Twitter at at the Harmony two ages in the middle. You can also find me every Tuesday night now at twitch.tv-capital-punds. You can find me on occasion on British pun shows now. And that's kind of fun.

By the time this airs, I will have done two of them already, so I don't have an advanced book on that. You'll also find me every Sunday at twitch.tv-callingit-in-the-ring. So the capital puns is obviously the pun show I've been doing for four years now. Calling it in the ring is where my buddy Johnny and I we do a We look at a wrestling match and we we discuss it and we talk about it and and get into the history of it It's a lot of fun to watch a long show. So all right. Yeah, so for a geek history of time. I'm Damien Harmony And I'm in Blalock and whatever you do don't let the adamantium get pulled out of your skeleton and whatever you do, don't let the adamantium get pulled out of your skeleton.