A Hot Dog Is a Sandwich - Is Peanut Butter A Liquid?
Episode Date: April 26, 2023Today, Josh and Nicole take on another absurd hot topic food debate --what is peanut butter's state of matter? Liquid? Solid? Gas?? Plasma??? Leave us a voicemail at (833) DOG-POD1 Check out the video... version of this podcast: http://youtube.com/@ahotdogisasandwich To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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This, this, this, this is Mythical.
Maggie, Nicole won't let me keep my protein yogurt in the work fridge anymore.
Tell her she has to let me.
Sorry, Josh. No liquids, gels, or aerosol.
Which one of those is Brogert?
This is A Hot Dog is a Sandwich.
Ketchup is a smoothie.
Yeah, I put ice in my cereal, so what?
That makes no sense.
A hot dog is a sandwich.
A hot dog is a sandwich.
What? Welcome to our podcast, A Hot Dog is a sandwich. A hot dog is a sandwich. What?
Welcome to our podcast, A Hot Dog is a Sandwich.
I'm your host, Josh Scherer.
And I'm your host, Nicole Inayati.
And we're internet chefs over on Good Mythical Morning and the Mythical Kitchen channels.
And when we're not making gourmet appetizers out of gas station food, that sounds wacky, Nicole.
We're wacky.
You can find us here breaking down the world's biggest food debates.
That's right, Josh.
And today we're going to debate the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard on this podcast.
Where do you think this ranks in terms of our dumbest podcast?
I want to say it's dumb.
I think it's absurd.
It's absurd.
It is very absurd, but it came from a real life situation.
Four.
Oh, four out of ten.
No, four out of 200.
Oh, this is four.
Oh, this is the fourth most absurd. Podcast we've done.
Yeah, there was the one where I argued that soup doesn't exist.
That was weird.
Soup doesn't exist.
Soup certainly exists.
There's menus of it.
The ocean is a soup with hankering.
That was fine.
It was pretty absurd.
Where is a hot dog returning back to being a hot dog once you digest it because it's
in your intestines?
That was probably the dumbest.
Yeah, I don't know.
I think that might have been number one.
What came first, the chicken or the egg?
That was really stupid.
That was before we really found our stride in the podcast.
What we're talking about today is, is peanut butter a liquid?
No, it's a paste.
Well, okay, but this-
It's pasty.
This came up because a man tried to take a jar of peanut butter through the TSA security
line, which-
So crazy.
One, I'm not justifying the TSA's existence or workflow here.
I love TSA agents.
Someone bringing a whole jar of peanut butter through TSA, I'm immediately slightly suspicious.
You know, just like on a personal level.
If I'm flying with them, I'm like, this is a weird man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I still think that as an American, it's your right to travel with as much peanut butter as you want.
But he tried to get peanut butter through TSA and they said, sorry, no liquids, gels, or aerosols.
And he responds with, you tell me which one of those you think peanut butter is because obviously
it's not in any of those categories um a gel i mean i think in those three categories it would
it would be a gel what do you mean peanut butter can't be a gel it's the same consistency as
toothpaste i suppose i yeah i guess if toothpaste isn't allowed
thank you for listening to a hot dog as a sandwich no but like the peanut butter thing is really
interesting because then you start going down the rabbit hole of what if i took a whole jar of peanut
butter and i smeared it between bread and i brought that in through tsa line because i want to feed my
family a cheap and healthy meal not go to the the Wolfgang Puck Express and get a $15 tomato basil bread bowl.
$15?
Bro, Wolfgang Puck Express.
$30?
Yeah, I was going to say.
What are you talking about?
They're pre-packaged sandwiches like 15 bucks.
Oh, yeah.
Airport food, what a scam that is.
Do they heat it up?
No.
At the Wolfgang Puck?
No, no, no.
Really?
Okay, so there's the Wolfgang Puck.
I don't travel often,
but I've done it more recently.
I'm just kidding.
I'm totally kidding.
I'm the same.
You go to Wolfgang Puck Express
and you can just go through the little checkout line.
They have crappy little 7-Eleven sandwiches that you can just buy.
But they have like one cool ingredient.
Yeah, it'll be like basil pesto and there's like a little green splooge on there.
A little green splooge.
And you're just like, ah.
But, you know, you got to catch a flight in 15 minutes and you want to poop before you get on the plane.
Because then you're like, well, I certainly don't want to poop in the air.
You don't like pooping in airplanes?
Oh, my God.
That is my nightmare.
Pooping on an airplane is the worst experience I've ever had.
Really?
Yes.
I would rather fly Spirit Airlines exclusively for the rest of my life
than poop in an airplane.
It is my knees cannot, Nicole, my hips cannot open wide enough
to get my anal cavity to release.
You're tall.
You're tall. You're tall.
I'm 5'3", so I fit nice and snug in the little container.
That sounds really great.
But I do love pooping in public airport bathrooms.
I'll tell you that.
That's disgusting.
Because everybody is at their worst in a public airport bathroom.
So you can do whatever you want.
I put headphones in.
I put headphones in.
I'm listening to dubstep, not caring what my body sounds like and just ruining the days of everyone next to me.
Some Republican senator next to me is sticking his foot into my stall.
And I'm like, that's your right, sir.
Anyways, the point is peanut butter.
So you're not allowed to take that in because apparently the TSA classifies it, quote, as a spreadable, which is in the liquids category.
Okay.
Well, what I'm trying to think is, is how large was it?
Like 64 ounces?
Like how much was it?
They did not give, all they said was a jar of peanut butter.
It's more than the amount you're allowed to bring on is what it is.
Yes, correct.
If you brought a snack size thing of Skippy with like the little crackers that they sell.
That's fine.
That would have been fine.
What's the limit? Like four ounces?
Let's see. Which is still like a
fair amount of peanut butter. Can we talk about
the amount of peanut butter this person was bringing through TSA?
Yeah, that's ridiculous. Get flagged.
How much liquid can you take on a
plane? 3.4 ounces right now.
100 milliliters or less per item.
So what I'm thinking is why couldn't
they just get a bunch of three ounce jars
and put it all in there?
Wait, can you do that?
I think so.
You can just get a bunch of.
I think that's legal.
That's weird.
Well, it's allowed.
Everything about TSA is weird, though.
Can I just say something?
I love and respect TSA agents so much.
They literally keep us so safe and I'm really grateful that they do.
Are you serious?
They keep us so safe?
What do you mean?
But let me tell you something.
They don't. Statistically, they do what do you mean but let me tell you something i they don't like statistically they do not keep let me tell you the fact that i have to take off my shoes really makes me sad yeah it sucks nobody likes it and the fact that i have to take off my
laptop out of my bag makes me sad but i understand why the precautions exist sure well so i'm not
upset at the fact that i yes annoying but but it's worth my shoes being off.
I hate it when other people take their sandals off and they have their bare feet on.
That's me, baby.
If you are at the airport and you're not wearing-
I don't wear socks ever, so I am barefoot.
Listen, listen.
This is what security theater gets you.
That is disgusting.
When I see people with their bare feet just like, oh.
Did you not know you were going to the airport?
I just talked about pooping to dubstep in public bathrooms.
What do you mean that's disgusting?
I just, listen, I understand why the TSA exists
and I'm grateful for their existence.
And even if they yell at me and sometimes they go,
take off your shoes!
Or like, you know, they're like, take your jacket off!
Make sure your pockets are empty!
Take off your belt!
Yeah, I love the real mean ones.
I'm just like, okay, okay.
But like, I understand why they do that
so i don't hate them i respect them and if you're listening and you're a tsa agent i love you
so all of the modern tsa rules right this stuff all came out after 9-11 because america was very
fearful very fearful needed to do something to get people to be comfortable in airports again
yada yada yeah stop playing after that and there were like a fair amount of incidents after 9-11
that continued to shift the rules
so the shoe bomber remember there was a dude
that had a bomb on his shoe and he was trying to
scratch it off or what scratch it off he was trying
to activate it and people swarmed him
so then it was like alright take your shoes
off and then there was somebody
who tried to get a bunch of liquid
explosives through and
so that in 2006
is what caused the no liquids, gels,
or aerosols rule. Yeah. Which I
get the impetus to make those rules. Thanks a lot!
However, the TSA is literally like the
biggest waste of government resources.
It does absolutely nothing. So in every single audit
that they've ever done, where they have what were
called red teams to try and pass
dangerous items through TSA,
in a couple of the recent ones in 2016, there was a 95% failure rate
to literally just catch drugs, weapons, and explosives.
Are you kidding me?
What about when they have the little sniffy dogs
and they make you walk separate from your person?
I don't know to tell you the dogs are broken.
I don't know.
But they don't always have the dogs, you know,
and you can hide stuff in other stuff.
What?
You know, it's just there's ways to trick it.
And the point is, if you're highly motivated, you're probably going to get stuff through
TSA.
That's so crazy because, like, I just think morally how wrong it is to do that.
So, like, I've never tried to, like, sneak, like, out of.
Oh, you've never tried to sneak liquid explosives through an airplane?
Nicole, wow, good for you.
You're an American hero for that.
No, no.
Shut up.
an American hero for that.
No, no.
Shut up.
No, like,
it's just so weird to me that, like,
they exist,
but still he said
95% failure rate.
That's crazy to me.
There was an average
failure rate of, like,
above 80%
in all the audits they did.
Yeah, and there were
even crazy things
that they found.
So we need to give them
more money.
So we need to give them
more money so they can be better.
No, because here's what you do.
Here's what you do
when you give them more money.
So they got several
hundred million dollars
for new screening machines.
And they found out that within several years, 99% of them were still just sitting in storage.
Like, what are you doing?
What are you doing?
It is just an absolutely defunct agency that does nothing.
But it apparently makes people, yourself including, feel safer on airplanes.
I do feel safer.
I do, I do.
Yeah, which, you know, that's part of life.
The theater of, they call it security theater.
Adam Conover did a fantastic episode about this.
I'm down with theater security, security theater.
I'm down.
And there's so much theater in like the food world as well with, I would call it sanitation theater, right?
Oh, yeah, the gloves.
Wearing gloves.
It's like, no, that doesn't actually make you any safer.
Yeah.
Temp check yourself.
My point is if the rules go so far that you can't bring peanut butter on an airplane but you
can bring a peanut butter sandwich like that's just an inconsistent rule what about reese's cups
are those like grenades are reese's cups considered grenades reese's pieces i don't know i don't know
about explosives this is so it's just scary i mean if it's if we can't bring peanut butter on our
planes what are we doing what are we really doing you can't smoke mean, if we can't bring peanut butter on our planes, what are we doing? What are we really doing?
You can't smoke on airplanes anymore.
You can't even enjoy a spoonful of peanut butter with your cigarette.
Maybe.
I'm trying to think because, like, whenever, like, I've traveled with a lot of, like, religious people that, like, bring food on the plane.
Yeah.
So, but I don't think any of them have, like, brought.
I think they brought hummus, like, on the plane.
They've brought a hummus.
If you can't.
Hummus is infinitely more dangerous than peanut butter.
Are you kidding me?
It's a nut paste.
No, I can hide so many things in hummus, Nicole.
I just razor wire in there.
I'm trying to think.
Like we've brought like discs of hummus that are like more than three ounces.
Yeah, they failed 95% of the time, Nicole.
They just didn't catch it.
But they can find my
hairspray this is just frustrating but let me tell you it's just it's just so annoying how how a jar
of peanut butter is like the problem and they've got so much like yeah yeah like uh recognition
from like the news and stuff of all things like if you were to actually call this is a stupid thing
that i think about a lot though right like peanut butter is a solid at room temperature.
You heat it up.
It shows characteristics of a liquid because there's hydrogenated oils in there, right?
Sure, yeah.
So to me, like you freeze peanut butter.
Uh-huh.
Does that suddenly become a solid?
Because even if they're calling it spreadable, you tell me you can spread a frozen peanut butter?
The issue is.
What about a braised meat?
The issue is this.
I think the container with...
Was it unsealed or was it sealed?
I think it was sealed.
It was sealed?
I don't know.
I don't know this person's motivations.
This is what it is.
Honestly, I think maybe the container
that it was in was just jarring
and jarring at it.
And if it wasn't like in those little packets,
I don't think it would have been a problem.
I think the person who brought the peanut butter on just didn't do their due diligence.
Yeah, again, I agree that bringing a whole thing of peanut butter on is just generally suspicious.
Like, why would you bring a jar of peanut butter?
Like, why wouldn't you just, I don't know, buy it when you land in, I don't know, Poland or wherever you're going?
And you know what?
A lot of Europe doesn't mess with peanut butter, though.
But that's the thing.
You know, I'm just saying, if you need to bring mess with peanut butter, though. But that's the thing. Like, it's peanut butter, so.
You know, I'm just saying, if you need to bring your own peanut butter to a place, I get that.
Oh, wait.
Can you even bring peanut butter on a plane because of the peanut allergies?
That's a great question.
Maybe it's related to that?
I don't think they've banned people just having peanuts on airplanes, right?
I think they can't give you peanuts.
Like, certain airlines don't give you peanuts no more.
Oh, no.
I've never had peanuts on an airplane in years and years.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which to me, that makes sense.
I think we should put peanuts on airplanes.
I have a friend who's deathly allergic to peanuts.
You'd kill your friend over it.
No, no, no.
They're doing this really cool experiment.
Sorry, Eric.
I don't know if I'm supposed to tell people this.
But he's doing this really cool experimental thing
he's like deathly allergic to peanuts where they give him like a little bit of peanut and then they
monitor him for like an for like hours to see if he'll die something like that i'm obviously
paraphrasing but i think if we expose people to peanuts then the next generation yeah everyone
this is generational epidemiologist uh nicole and iity here
with a lot of health advice that she is eminently qualified i would have been a great doctor we've
already and i am super qualified to give airline security advice as somebody who took like three
counter-terrorism classes in college that's so cool did you ever talk about like the like the
liquids and like the salt like the aerosols and stuff. Oh, we basically just talked about the idea that it was, you know, America trying to emotionally recover from.
Got it.
And also like anytime you are trying to make people safe, right, what you are actually saying is there is danger.
You are not saying you are safe.
You are saying there is danger.
Ergo, we have made you safe.
And so it's just a lot of ways to justify invading Iraq and Afghanistan in 2000s and war.
That was like ultimately really unjustified and weapons of mass destruction were never actually found.
So point is, there's a lot of, you know, the stupid jar of—
My purpose for weapons of mass destruction.
That was gross.
I got weapons of ass destruction.
I fart.
It's not.
Anyway.
Yeah, so that's like the impetus behind
a lot of those rules right i think my dad so my dad used to work in airports right that was the
thing your dad worked in airports my dad worked in airport cargo management growing up and then
he sort of aged out of the job in the 90s okay right um but he saw i believe an israeli sniper to shoot a terrorist through like
three planes of glass on a plane yeah what airplane terrorism i love where this podcast
is going can i just say i love where this podcast is going i'm loving this conversation yeah yeah
so like terrorism on on airplanes like it's nothing. It was going on in the 70s as well.
It's the thing
that we've always dealt with.
9-11 is obviously
the thing that really...
Where were you?
We'll talk about that later.
Okay.
Yeah, this is...
Where were you in 9-11?
I'm not intentionally
doing a 9-11 podcast.
Kind of, I guess,
but keep going.
Okay, Israeli sniper?
Yeah, that was pretty much it.
But I just remember
my dad telling me
these stories
of like terrorism
in airports
because he worked
in like the Washington,
D.C. airport.
Oh really?
Dulles International.
Okay, okay, okay.
And then that's why
I like moved so much
because he was working there.
I was born in Maryland.
He got a job
at Kansas City Airport.
Moved there
and then he worked
at LAX sometime.
No way.
And then when I told the story
about how my dad taught me
how to kill snakes
driving down the runway
at Palomar Airport.
That was when he
aged out of the job.
Where's Palomar?
It's like San Diego.
Okay.
But it's like a really small like private plane airport, like little puddle jumpers.
But yeah, yeah.
So like I grew up with these stories.
Nice.
And so for me, it was all just, you know, yeah.
What do you feel about TSA PreCheck?
Oh, I'm the only person that doesn't have TSA PreCheck that I ever travel with now.
And I feel like a piece of crap.
I feel like a schmuck.
And everybody hates me for it.
I have clear.
What the hell does clear mean?
You scan your eyeball
and you go in.
I'm not kidding.
It's incredible.
I wonder if this person
had TSA PreCheck
or if they had,
I don't know,
clear they could just go through.
I bet they could.
That's what I wonder.
Jared Kassebaum,
Annalise's very funny husband.
We love Jared Kassebaum.
We love Jared.
Follow them on socials
yeah follow Jared
he's coming out
with a full length
comedy album soon
but he has a great bit
about TSA PreCheck
where I didn't know
how it works
but he's just like
you literally meet
with a federal agent
for five minutes
and then they decide
this person probably
won't be a terrorist
for the next ten years
yeah it's super chill
and he's like
I literally just told him
I was a comedian
and then did part of my bit.
And he said, ah, you seem like you won't blow up a plane.
No way.
Yeah, like that's the process.
Yeah.
All I did was some guy was like, hey, do you have an American Express card?
I'm like, well, yes, I do.
He was like, here you go.
Here's a rebate for the full transaction.
Just swipe your card and you can just skip the line
and bring whatever you want
on the airplane.
What do you do?
You don't have to take off your shoes.
You don't have to take your laptop
out of your bag
and get a shorter line.
That's it.
I cross the whole line.
Oh, God.
Oh, any time.
If you're ever wondering,
am I safe in a situation
and you find out
that somebody can pay $100
to not go through any of that?
No, it's a rebate.
They give you back the $100.
Because they know people won't do the rebate.
They won't do it.
It's like that whole Nathan Freehue sketch.
They won't do the rebate.
Air travel, man.
What a fun time.
That's the funny thing is, though, is I love traveling.
I love traveling, too.
But I'm not going to bring this.
Let me tell you.
Unless I have extreme dietary restrictions, I will like put it in my carry-on.
Not carry.
I'll put it in my – what is it called?
Check baggage.
Yeah.
I don't know why this person just decided – I don't know what was going on.
I don't think we should blame them.
It's a reasonable thing though.
Do I think it's suspicious and weird?
Yes.
But I defend to the death his right to bring peanut butter on an airplane.
I don't know.
I don't know.
There's something sus about it. I don't know. That's a lot of calories. Maybe they're keto. You don't know. I don't know. There's something sus about it.
I don't know.
There's a lot of calories.
Maybe they're keto.
You don't know.
Oh, I have a perfect example.
So whenever my mom comes back from Iran and stuff, she brings back, you know, snacks.
Soghati is what it's called, like little snacks and gifts and stuff.
Anything liquid, she knows.
Paste, liquid, whatever.
Tamarind paste, she brings.
She doesn't bring it on the plane.
She brings it in her carrier.
What if you wanted to eat the tamarind paste on the plane? You're it on the plane she brings it in her carrier what if you wanted to eat
the tamarind paste
on the plane
you're giving it as a gift
I don't know
maybe the peanut butter
wasn't a gift
maybe the peanut butter
was a gift
oh that would have been fun
imagine like
what's a country
that doesn't have
Germany doesn't have
peanut butter
let's imagine
I don't think
the accuracy of that
is going to sully
your reputation
you're just like
oh here you go
ja hallo
ich bin peanut butter.
You know, you should have put a bow on it.
If you put a bow on a jar of peanut butter, you would have just waltzed right in.
Please, my grandmother sees she's sick and it's her dying wish to have a jar of peanut butter.
I remember once I was traveling, I totally just forgot to take an energy drink out of my bag.
Was that at the bottom of your bag?
It was at the bottom of my bag,
and I probably had brought it to the gym a while ago,
and I was kind of rushing to travel,
and they took it out,
and the guy was like,
yeah, we've got to throw this away.
And I was like,
can I just chug it right now instead?
And he was like, I guess.
And so I just sat there and just chugged.
It was a bang.
It was like 300 milligrams of caffeine. And I just ripped it and just chugged. It was one of those, it was a bang. It was like 300 milligrams
of caffeine
and I just ripped it
and he just goes,
that was pretty nuts, man.
I'm like, thanks, dude.
And just walked through.
There was a story
of a lady finishing
a whole bottle of brandy
because they wouldn't let her
get on the plane.
Oh, God.
Oh, God.
How do they still allow people
to drink on airplanes?
That is a, maybe it's a commoner.
I can't believe people can drink on airplanes.
I hate drinking on airplanes.
I hate drinking on airplanes.
I want to drink right when I get there.
I want to set my stuff down in the hotel, wherever I'm going, and then I'm immediately going to drink.
But I hate being, like, just a little bit less with my faculties on an airplane.
Exactly, exactly.
I don't even sleep better when I drink either.
Me either, me either.
If it put me to sleep, that'd be something.
No, no, no.
If I drink and I get riled up. Not, like, that way. I'm not, like, you know, like, riled up. Feated. Yeah, exactly. I don't even sleep better when I drink either. Me either, me either. If it put me to sleep, that'd be something. No, no, no. If I drink and I get riled up.
Not like that way.
I'm not like, you know, like riled up.
Feeding.
Yeah, yeah.
But no, but you know, I drink and I get excited.
I want to talk.
I want to hang out.
Yeah.
No, I agree.
Yeah.
One time I took, I had like three drinks on a plane and I just got, I got like the spins
immediately.
Oh my gosh.
I'm so sorry.
Anyways.
Anyways.
Do you bring food on airplanes?
No.
Like, do you bring food from home i bring snacks
like what so what i do
what could possibly be bad what could be morally bad about the snacks if i'm leaving on a friday
and if i'm leaving on a saturday on friday i go to work and i take some bags of chips
yeah i take a protein bar that's called the weekend bonus You open your backpack near the fridge
You fill it with the free LaCroix's
You can't bring LaCroix's on a plane
Oh no but I'm not talking about planes anymore
I'm talking about workplace theft
Yeah the apples are going to go bad anyways
I take them home and make a little fruit crisp with it
Or something
I just don't want any of the food to get wasted at work
That's why I steal all the Milano cookies
I take a goldfish I take a protein bar Yeah, yeah, no. I just don't want any of the food to get wasted at work. I literally- That's why I steal all the Milano cookies.
I take a goldfish.
I take a protein bar.
I take, I don't know.
But I do buy water bottles at the airport.
I buy big water bottles.
I don't want to have to get up to pee.
So I dehydrate myself before flights.
I drink an energy drink.
I buy a copy of Bon Appetit magazine,
copy of Food and Wine magazine. You buy books at the magazine?
Oh, I love it.
That's my, oh my God.
That's my favorite thing to do is buying books and magazines. And You buy books at the magazine? Oh, I love it. That's my oh my god, that's my
favorite thing to do is buying books and magazines
and I found books that I really love. Some of my
favorite authors I've gotten at like a Hudson
News. You ever heard of one of these? A cell phone
buddy? I know, but I like, I love reading
paperbacks on a plane and that's almost like
the only time where, you know, I don't
have anything else I can do. I don't want to buy
the Wi-Fi. I don't want to figure out how to work that.
If it's like a Southwest flight and there's no in-flight entertainment type of thing.
Does Southwest not have in-flight entertainment?
That sucks.
I don't think they do.
That's horrific.
Yeah.
Well, United though, you get all the movies to pick from.
Yeah, you get to play games.
Ooh, that's so fun.
You ever play games with like everyone?
No, but reading paperbacks.
I love doing that.
And then I'll get an energy drink so I can stay up to read.
Oh, nice.
But then I let that bleed all the moisture out of my body
so I don't have to get up to pee,
so I'm just sitting there and reading for five hours
all wired on rock stars.
Yeah, you really have a phobia of the bathroom.
Airplane bathrooms are really, really bad for tall people.
And then sometimes you're peeing,
and you try and like,
I'm gonna stand up,
because this is a video.
You sometimes are peeing,
and you gotta brace your knees against the side.
Sometimes when you pee in an airplane because there's turbulence,
you got to brace your knees.
You got to push your knees out.
I don't ever do that.
Push your knees out.
I don't ever have to do that.
Because if your knees are in, then you can rattle around
and then you pee on yourself.
You pee sitting down?
Then you pee on yourself.
What?
No, I'm standing up.
You're squatting.
Yeah, because you have to hunch because I'm tall.
I'm tall.
Okay, here's my suggestion.
Instead of doing that, why don't you lower down and put your hips out?
We never stand during the podcast.
Why don't you do this?
Why don't you just squat down and put your hips forward like this?
No, no, no.
This isn't a good angle for my knees.
I need to be back.
Okay, no, no.
I need to be back and tucked.
You need to do more barre classes.
You need to tuck your tailbone.
Oh, yeah, that's a problem. I need to do more bar classes you need to tuck your tailbone oh yeah that's the problem
I need to do more bar classes
Nicole
that's the problem with all this
not airplanes
they're designed to
shuttle people around
like cans of sardines
Josh
what did we learn
from this podcast?
uh
that
I mean 9-11
really fundamentally changed
the way that
Americans view a lot of things
air travel included
is peanut butter a liquid? no peanut butter's not a damn liquid peanut butter really fundamentally changed the way that Americans view a lot of things, air travel included.
Is peanut butter a liquid?
No, peanut butter's not a damn liquid.
Peanut butter,
it's a partially
hydrogenated oil.
It is,
like water is a liquid,
but ice is a solid
and steam is gas.
It's a mix.
Peanut butter can be
many forms.
It's everything.
It's a mix of things,
but should we be allowed
to bring it on planes?
Probably.
I don't know.
Just don't bring crap on planes.
Don't bring anything.
Don't travel with anything.
Never.
Just a book bag and a book in the bag.
Don't assume that any government agency is actually keeping you safe.
I can't bring tweezers on a plane.
Don't assume that you have a right to comfortability anywhere.
You have to make your own comfortability in the world.
Sometimes I get these weird chin hairs and I have to tweeze them.
So I think I might need to bring the tweezers on the plane.
Ew. I get these weird chin hairs and I have to tweeze them. So I think I might need to bring the tweezers on the plane.
Ew.
All right, Nicole.
We've heard what you and I have to say.
Now it's time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling out there in the universe.
It's time for a segment we call... Opinions are like casserole.
You left me hanging last time, Sona.
I have to leave you hanging.
I'm a natural soloist.
Hi, folks.
I am Ree from Colorado.
I just want to give you kudos for how well your
Mythical Kitchen episodes
are. Love them. But I
also want to pose this question.
What is better than
the Tony C's
as
a flavoring method?
I have not found one yet.
I don't like Old Bay.
I love Tony C's.
I'm a Tony C's fan.
Heart emoji.
But I need you folks to test something.
Maybe even with chicken.
I just saw the chicken episode, chicken breast episode.
But please let me know.
I'd love to see an episode on a better flavoring method other than Tony C's.
Again, I heart Tony C's. Again, I heart
Tony C's. Love you guys.
You do great. Bye.
Hey, Rhi. One, thank you for the
very nice compliments. So kind of you. Thank you.
We run a YouTube channel called
Mythical Kitchen as well. You should watch it.
If you haven't checked it out. We're so fun
on that show. We're very endearing and talented.
Adorable. There's also more characters.
Yeah. I guess we're characters endearing and talented. Adorable. There's also more characters. Yeah.
I guess we're characters, right?
There's more people.
That's a whole philosophical debate
that I'm not prepared to answer.
Are we ourselves?
Are we characters?
Are we elevated avatars
of ourselves?
There's Trevor.
There's V.
There's Lily.
Sometimes Annalise comes on.
Maggie makes appearances.
They're all just character bits
that we made up.
They don't actually exist.
That's not the real me.
We got them all
from central casting.
Is anything better than Tony Satchery's? One, I think you're searching for a solution to a problem that doesn made up. They don't actually exist. We got them all from central casting. Is anything
better than Tony Sachery's? One, I think you're searching
for a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
You have Tony Sachery's. Enjoy it.
Sometimes Tony C's isn't the best
flavoring agent for specific things.
Like, for example, like if I'm making
shawarma, I'm not going to use
Tony C's to season it. I'm going to use
shawarma mix or ras al hanout.
Yeah. No, i'm a big believer
in spice blends like i yeah it just shuts off the part of you that has to open up five different
bottles and they put it all in one bottle and so i've been big on yeah ras al hanout is a really
fun one kind of like a north african uh spice did you know what ras al hanout stands for
can i guess yeah is it top of the shelf or something?
So, no, it's the owner of the spice
shop. So, Ras is like
Reis, which is like boss, and
Hanout is like spice shop. So,
each Ras Al Hanout is different.
Oh, interesting. That's like the chef's special.
It's like the butcher's cut. So, if you ever go to like Morocco
or wherever,
the Ras Al Hanout
varies from different vendors.
Ah, that's really cool.
Yeah.
I taught Josh something.
What's up?
You teach me something every day.
But there's also
other Cajun spice blends out there.
Slap Your Mama is very good.
I use Slap Your Mama.
Zatarain.
I don't use much of Zatarain.
That's a Tony C equivalent.
But Slap Your Mama
does really good stuff.
Other things I like grew up using, Montreal seasoning from McCormick's.
Spicy Montreal steak seasoning.
That's dank.
That's really good.
Underrated.
I think that was like a 90s thing.
I think so, yeah.
But man, if you put that on a steak, it is still a lovely time to me.
Big fan of that.
A lot of people go into Everything Bagel.
To me, it doesn't really match with a lot of foods that I enjoy eating.
Kind of a lot of seeds in there. I like it.
It's not the best. Tony C's
is probably the best all-purpose American
seasoning. I'd agree with that.
It has all the flavors you want. It's got onion, it's got garlic,
it's got salt, it's got sugar, it's got
paprika, it's got cayenne.
Those are all things that I like on a majority of my
foods. Yeah. Also, I looked up Russell
who knew and you were right. He means head of the shop. Really? I thought you a majority of my foods. Yeah. Also, I looked up Ras Al Hanout and you were right.
It means head of the shop.
Really?
I thought you said top of the shelf.
Oh, head of the shop.
But rice means king or head of.
Yeah, yeah.
And then whatever.
I vaguely heard that before.
Another spice that I've been using, berbere spice.
Oh, from Ethiopia.
Ethiopia, yeah.
I have that too.
Bro, I just shower my chicken in that now.
It's so good.
Yeah, fantastic.
Burberry spice is delicious
on avocado toast actually.
I love it on avocado toast
with an egg.
I've never had that
but I'd like to.
So good.
But literally go to
your local grocery store,
go to the spice aisle,
pick out something
that you ain't never
heard of before.
And do it, yeah.
And just do it.
I mean, you know,
the opportunity cost
is really nothing.
You just get chicken
that tastes a little bit
different for a month
if you don't like it.
And that's fun.
And that's fun.
Hey, Josh and Nicole, this is Sam from Eugene, Oregon.
And I just had a question for you guys about fermented foods.
Uh-oh.
How do you feel about them?
Have you ever tried experimenting with making your own lacto-fermented, where you isolate the lactobacillus bacteria just by using salt in the
proper proportions.
So,
uh,
thanks so much for all your content and,
I love you guys.
Bye.
I love you too,
man.
Eugene track town,
USA,
the only place that cares about track and field in roughly the whole world.
That's the thing. They have a really beautiful
facility. When it comes to
pickling and lacto-fermented stuff,
I personally don't like doing
it myself.
But my parents really
like doing it.
My parents make their own pickles
and their own torchi and their own
different kinds of pickle things.
So whenever I go over, they put me to work.
And they asked me to clean the jars out and to like make different like spice blends and stuff to go into like the pickles and the torshi.
So I do it with my parents.
And it's really fun.
They also have this like old wives tale that is not real where they put dried chickpeas and that collects all the bad bacteria, which is I don't know if that's real or not.
But they still added in.
And I think it's a really fun bonding experience.
And then like in like, you know, six months later, you eat it like yum.
I have a complicated relationship with this because part of me is scared about the food safety of it all because you are literally just creating new bacteria.
So lacto-fermenting is when, let's talk about pickling, right?
Some people are like, oh, the ingredients in pickles are like vinegar, salt, sugar, whatever.
And it's like, no, like proper pickles, a lacto-fermented pickle, which is to say like the OG version, you would just add salt to the vegetables.
And let it hang out.
And let it hang out.
And certain things like peppers, like cabbage, like cucumbers,
they have lactobacillus bacteria naturally on especially the skins of it.
And so that bacteria just, you know, the salt bleeds the moisture,
natural sugars ferment, and yada, yada.
And they eat, eat, eat.
Anytime you post about fermenting anything yourself uh
online it's somebody's gonna come and be like you're not doing this safely it's like you think
people like 500 years ago they was just putting stuff in a clay pot in the open air like we
fermented our own like anchovy tuna blood juice yeah we made roman garum that's cool and all the
recipes for making it.
We're like, yeah, you just put it in the pot and let it set.
So I've done that.
Yeah.
You know, and I feel very safe consuming it.
And I fermented my own chilies at home,
but I'm not doing it in a way that I would recommend to other people
because I just kind of.
I don't trust myself to do it.
I trust my mom to do it.
You know what I mean?
If I put in like an hour of research, I'd probably feel pretty comfortable doing it.
But I don't want to go through the process of sterilizing jars.
I don't want to do the canning thing.
My mom.
Have you ever heard of verjus?
Yeah, verjus is like a slightly fermented grape juice.
My mom makes her own verjus.
That's so sick.
And literally my job was to like pick all the grapes and sterilize the jars and stuff.
So I'm like an apprentice to pickling.
And like I'm like an apprentice to that stuff.
But like I could not do it on my own.
Like I need my mom's support to show me how to do it and stuff.
I'd like to get more into it.
That sounds like a fun thing.
I'll bring you some of her verju.
It's really good.
Please.
What did she put it on?
It's a secret ingredient to her Shirazi salad.
It is so good.
Sometimes she just gives me like a spoonful.
She goes, it's good for you.
Your tongue is white.
I'm like, what?
You know, again, traditional medicine works.
Hey, guys.
When buying Rice Krispies, the cereal, make sure you get the family size only.
Why?
They're puffed.
They're more of like a football shape
than that crappy flaky shape wait wait also rice krispies are delicious in great jelly
wait wait wait this is so interesting is this a fair this sounds a bit conspiratorial to me but
it could make sense it could make sense because you can get products like um the flaming hot
cheetos doritos whatever they sell in other countries.
Frosted Flakes is a good example.
They sell them in Mexico under the name like Zacaritas.
Zucaritas.
Zucaritas.
Zucaritas.
Zacharias.
Zacharias is a Jewish Mexican Frosted Flake fusion.
And they're different.
They're like sweeter.
The flakes are different.
Yeah, I think the actual thing that goes on top of them is different.
Like it's a syrupy thing that hardens into like a shellac.
Yeah, yeah.
Instead of just being like a sugary coating.
And so like all these factories are making different equipment.
They're all trying to get to roughly the same product-ish.
Maybe it'll depend on the regional taste market, et cetera.
And the ingredients that are used.
Of course, of course.
And so it could stand to reason that there's a separate factory that makes the family-sized boxes.
You know, like beer breweries will have different bottling operations for cans and bottles, et cetera.
What did you say? Beer berries?
Beer breweries.
Beer breweries.
Beer breweries.
I thought you said beer berries.
I'm like, what are beer berries?
You soak blackberries in beer for six days and get drunk off them like one of those bears that eats all the fermented rotten fruit.
No, I'm thinking a cocaine bear.
That's cocaine bear.
Cocaine bear.
But yeah.
What were we talking about?
I literally don't remember.
Oh, Rice Krispies.
Yeah, no.
I want to do a side-by-side and you see a bowl of Rice Krispies from Family Size and a regular one and see if it's legit or not.
I do believe you, though.
We need more fancy Rice Krispie options.
No.
I think they're perfect the way they are.
Lactofermented Verjus Rice Krispies. Oh, you didn't even talk about the grape jelly and no that's what i'm
saying like wait is he talking about pudding what how does he do it i i believe uh grape jelly
and and like some rice crispies you just mash it around and yeah it's a little crunchy snack for your tummy amen sounds like something a baby
would eat hi this is chris i'm not gonna say my last name and i'm from hazel green
um but i think that dipping your bread and ice water during a meal is the elite way to go
if people and hot dog eating contests can do it.
And so can I,
but my internet friends keep on making fun of me for it.
And I'm just really upset.
I want someone else to weigh in on this.
Anyways,
love the show.
Thanks.
Bye.
Thanks for listening.
I get why they're protecting their identity.
I had a quick question.
Yeah.
What is an edgelord?
An edgelord is somebody who does and says things to be considered deliberately edgy,
probably because they lack attention probably from growing up.
And so they seek out negative attention because positive attention is harder to garner.
I'm not saying this person is an edgelord,
but it's very possible that they might have some nuanced edgelord tendencies.
Doing things deliberately to get attention, which I get.
That's been my whole career. You're staring at an edgelord tendencies. Doing things deliberately to get attention, which I get. I don't think, yeah. That's been my whole career.
You're staring at an edgelord.
I have no idea what my actual beliefs and personality is.
Is that true?
So much as what comes out on the camera.
I don't know, man.
You know, everyone's like,
well, just be yourself on camera.
It's like, myself would just be staring at a wall
because all I really want to do is sleep.
Oh, Joshy.
I just want to be by myself and hang out.
Josh, take a nap after this, my guy.
It sounds really nice.
But comparing yourself to the elite athletes in a hot dog eating competition, they're not there for pleasure, right?
They're there to win.
Yeah, they're there to win.
The pleasure comes from the victory.
Winning, yeah.
And the water is merely a means to that end.
That's right.
What is the water to you?
That's my question.
What is the end goal that you
are trying to serve by faster bread consumption at a rest i mean doing it like a restaurant is
like you're trying to get elicit some sort of reaction sure definitely i think that's what's
going on i guess yeah well no i don't know no i was thinking like it has to do with like what's
it called dysphagia yeah where you might be related to dysphagia? I get the idea
of wanting to make
all your foods wetter.
That's fine.
And if I have a bowl
of ranch near my bread,
I will eat that.
I will eat that.
Come on,
you ever been to Cheesick Factory
and dip the brown bread
in ranch?
That's like classic.
But like water,
don't do it.
Don't do it anymore.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Should we do one more?
Yeah.
One more.
Maggie, come on.
Hey guys,
I'm going to make this quick.
I heard that it has to be under a minute.
I'm from North Mexico.
I'm from Monterrey, Nuevo León, Nuevo Laredo.
I currently live in Laredo, Texas.
And I've been eating avocado toast since I can remember, maybe four years old.
My grandma used to give me this.
I'm a 40-year-old man.
used to give me this i'm a 40 year old man and uh for the fact that they say a boquera tool belongs or it was created in california by millennials i don't i kind of resent that we've been eating it
for forever i have never gone into the history of it to see who created it or what but like this is northern Mexico food, southern, I guess, south, south Texas.
But anyway, just a big shout out.
I'm a big mythical beast.
I have a lot of mythical beast friends in Monterrey, in Mexico.
Saludos a todos.
Los quiero mucho.
Love you, Nicole.
Love you, Josh.
I'm going to cry.
Te amo tambien, homie.
Te amo.
That's so sweet First of all
One of my favorite messages
You've ever gotten
My favorite band
Is from Monterrey
What's your favorite band?
I think they're from Monterrey
The Warning
Shout out to The Warning
Oh cool
We do like The Warning
We should go to Monterrey
I would love that
Let's go
Totally
Yeah
Avocado Toast
Do you know who claims
Avocado Toast?
Like who gets madder
Than anyone When you're like it's such a California thing.
Australia.
Oh, interesting.
The country of Australia claims to have invented avocado toast as a thing.
Like I don't think it's a government declaration, but that's what Australians say.
But avocados started in Mexico, right?
They're from Mexico?
But so did tomatoes.
So did chili.
So did beans.
So did squash.
So did corn, right?
So it's a Colombian exchange crop, but it took a long time for avocados to eventually catch on a lot of places but really interesting
when i was in south africa and i like ate an avocado and i was like yeah this is the best
avocado i ever tasted and they're like yeah they've been growing them for like 70 years here
wow i'm like what and so they just found other climates avocados obviously take sure yeah yeah
and so they really have like spread the world in a way obviously are from mexico and
like um like aguacate right um i believe comes from an indigenous word as well so they have like
and i think it means like roughly means scrotum balls yeah yeah yeah which hey makes sense you
look at an avocado um so i don't know about the origins of it but i mean the fact that you know
he grew up eating it in mexico in northern Mexico, in southern Texas.
Totally valid.
Yeah, it absolutely makes sense.
And also the association of it with like rich people culture.
Oh, yeah.
That's why we can't buy houses because we enjoy avocado toast.
Yeah.
Screw yourself.
Also, you ever go to like a Mexican market and you get the actual, because there's half avocados grown in California.
Sure.
And there's so many different kinds of avocados.
There are so many.
Reed avocados, bacon avocados.
Reed avocados are so good. I love them and it's fun to explore
different avocados but you get like avocados from Mexico and I believe those are grown year
round. They're a little bit more petite right? I used to dude growing up I would buy them 10 for
a dollar. Yeah it was different. And they're smaller they're a different texture but like
avocados aren't like he said this model of like white millennial indulgence no it's like an indigenous
food that's been eaten forever you want to know something funny one time i went to a produce show
in orlando florida before i met you and literally there were avocados the size of my forearm that
were absolutely the most gorgeous insane things i've ever seen an avocado the size of my head
and i'm like there's no way that people in America can claim this food.
Like this has been the most gorgeous, unbelievable agricultural thing to happen.
There's no way it started here.
God, I do love this avocado.
And putting it on bread.
Putting it on bread.
I remember.
Iconic.
I remember talking to a Mexican food writer and he was like, I hate the way white people fetishize guacamole.
And I was like, what do you mean?
And he's like, in Mexico, this is at least what he said.
He's like, in Mexico, guacamole isn't like an event.
It's not an $18 app that you get table side.
He's like, a lot of guacamole is just one of the things on a salsa bar for certain kinds
of tacos.
And sometimes it's just water, avocado, chili, and salt.
Americans love fat, dude.
They just like to eat fatty foods.
We love fat.
And we also like this sort of exoticized nature of things.
You know what I mean?
And, like, it's fun to say.
We love a show.
We love sizzling fajitas.
That's the reason that was the most popular Mexican dish.
Yeah.
Which is, like, a very obscure Mexican dish, and fajita is, we talked about this yesterday.
Yeah.
It's, like, I believe a northern Mexican slang for, yeah, like little belts.
And it refers to arachera, the skirts.
It's a whole deal.
But we turned that into a phenomenon at Chili's in the 80s and 90s.
You know what I mean?
Same thing happened with guacamole and avocado.
Totally.
Do you like table side guac?
No.
I love table side guac.
Make me good guacamole.
I don't need to see you make it.
No, no, no.
I love it.
When I was younger, when I was like 19, 20, we would go to hookah bars in the valley
and there was one place
called The Spot
and their guacamole
table side presentation
was epic.
I think it's because
I constantly like
watch them screw it up.
I'm just like,
that's way too much
like chili in there.
I love it.
They're like,
oh, the cuts on that
are so messed up.
I think this is just me
being a full-blooded American but I love the table side. They're all just adding it to cuts on that are so messed up. I think this is just me being a full-blooded American, but I love the table side plug.
They're all just adding it to a molcajete and not actually pounding it.
And it's just weird.
They do pound it.
They do pound it.
Really?
Yeah.
I don't know, man.
It's not pre-mashed.
Well, I always get it.
They're literally scooping the avocado.
But are they pounding the other ingredients in there?
No.
That's what you got to do.
That's the point of it.
No, dude.
They have four other tables To do it at
You gotta respect the hustle
I'm not
But Avocado Toast
Thank you so much
For your statement
Yeah that's a great call
Really made us happy
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