A Hot Dog Is a Sandwich - Which Was Eaten First, Chicken Or Eggs?

Episode Date: August 5, 2020

We may never know which came first, but we can all agree that both are delicious. Therefore, the real question we should be asking is: Which was eaten first.. chicken or eggs? To learn more about li...stener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This, this, this, this is Mythical. We may never know which came first, but we can all agree that both are delicious. Therefore, the real question we should be asking is, which was eaten first, chicken or eggs? This is A Hot Dog is a Sandwich. Ketchup is a smoothie. Yeah, I put ice in my cereal, so what? That makes no sense. A Hot Dog is a Sandwich.
Starting point is 00:00:22 A Hot Dog is a Sandwich. What? Welcome to our podcast, A hot dog is a sandwich. A hot dog is a sandwich. What? Welcome to our podcast, A Hot Dog is a Sandwich, the show where we break down the world's biggest food debates. I'm your host, Josh Scherer. I'm your host, Nicole Hendy-Zadek. And today, we are discussing which was eaten first, the chicken or eggs. Nicole, this was your idea.
Starting point is 00:00:39 This was my idea. A little insight into the creative process. Me, Nicole, Ryan, and Trevor, we all sit down and we go, hey, what kind of podcast do you want to do? And Nicole goes, chicken or egg? And we go, what do you mean? And she goes, yeah, which was eaten first? So, Nicole, I'm going to let you take the opening statement on this one.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Okay. I'm going to go ahead and say eggs. Why come? Because science says that eggs were eaten first. We both did a little research. We dug a little deep, and we saw that eggs eggs were eaten first. We both did a little research. We dug a little deep and we saw that eggs were actually eaten first. So the podcast is over. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Okay, I know what you're referring to. So if you look to the actual like archaeological, anthropological history, it says that eggs were most likely domesticated from chickens in India in like 3200 BC. And then also chickens were likely not eaten as food on a large scale until actually it was very cool about five years ago. Archaeologists in Israel found evidence that dated it back to about 400 BC. So it would appear- They're close.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Yeah. They're close, but still 3000 years away. There was a longer time between people supposedly on a mass scale, I must add as a caveat. Yes, mass scale. Eating eggs and chickens as there was from like Jesus to now. Because that's what, I'm going to bring up scripture a lot, to be fair. Are you going to quote the Bible on this? I'm going to quote the Bible a lot.
Starting point is 00:01:58 How many quotes do you have on your laptop? I only have two. I got one Old Testament and another Old Testament. Oh, okay. It gets into some weird stuff. So there's no New Testament stuff? No New Testament stuff. This is the book of our people.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Okay, nice. Yeah, yeah. No, this is like dating from Genesis. But no, I believe that chickens were eaten first despite a mountain of evidence against me
Starting point is 00:02:19 from the entire archaeological historical community. So we're not going off of like, let's just say, the cultivation of these things in order for them to be eaten on a mass scale. You're just thinking what guy went into the coop, looked at an egg, looked at a chicken and said, I'm going to eat one of those.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Yeah, I ain't even talking about coop. I'm talking predating coop. I'm talking dude walking in the jungle, you know, sees this weird little, like a half raptor dinosaur creature. Yeah. And goes like, I'm gonna eat its flesh. Or said, I'm gonna eat the round thing that came out of its poop hole.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Okay, well, let's dissect that then because I think that's the argument here. Again, going against the grain of all, let's just call them facts. Is this a fact-based podcast? No, not even a little bit. This is the opposite. This is an impassioned philosophical debate between two people who love food and just love to make each other cringe and laugh.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Yeah. This is what this whole podcast is about. Facts, leave them at the door. Yeah, at some point last week, I said if you cut open someone's stomach after eating a hot dog, you could, in theory, boil parts of their intestines to become a hot dog.
Starting point is 00:03:24 That's not true at all. See? Yeah, that's, no all. See? You say that now? After the fact? No, like intestinal casing in hot dogs is so much different than just a whole human intestine. What a wild thing. But that was last week, and now this is this week and we're saying new, completely nonsensical things. Yes, exactly. So what I'm thinking, if you're looking at this on a personal level, if you are faced, let's examine this in a vacuum, right? That's like a common tactic for philosophical arguments. Examine this in a vacuum without any sort of, you know, cultural norms that are imposed on you, any sense of history, just pure instinct.
Starting point is 00:03:59 And you see animal flesh versus weird, gooey, translucent, yellow thing encased in a hard shell? What looks more inviting to you to eat? And keep in mind, there's like precedent for flesh being eaten that you can see openly, right? Like humans have been eating animal flesh and cooking it over fire to avoid disease for thousands of years. It's what made us human. It's what made us human. It's what separated us from animals. But also we see animals killing each other and eating flesh for food. So there's precedent for that. Sure, they're egg-eating animals. We call them ovoraptors.
Starting point is 00:04:31 That was a word I pulled out of nowhere. Isn't it ovotarians? Ovovegetarians are people who only eat eggs and no meat. But ovoraptor is a term for an animal that primarily eats eggs. Isn't that a basketball team? Yeah, yeah, the Toronto Ovoraptors. Yeah, they're the defending champs. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you got a kawaii omelette
Starting point is 00:04:47 leading the charge. But no, what I'm saying is, in a vacuum, if you are faced with a choice of animal flesh or this just like completely gross-looking, gooey mess inside of a thing that came out of a poop chute, you're gonna go for flesh first. So I believe
Starting point is 00:05:04 there was one person just like walking in the jungle, sees this little idiot chicken walking around, just like, and that person was just like, I'm going to cut off its head and eat its flesh. No, I would. Well, is this personal or is this vacuum, Nicole?
Starting point is 00:05:18 Is this vacuum, Nicole? Vacuum, Nicole? Break yourself down to vacuum, Nicole's instincts. You have, you know, you're not getting your eyebrows done. You don't have your makeup. know you he noticed he noticed i did my eyebrows that's huge i have said in the past that i don't like to compliment any co-workers because for me if i'm like nicole your eyebrows look good today then you're like what my eyebrows look like crap every other day how i but that's not how i process compliments josh i don't think like oh my god he
Starting point is 00:05:44 thought i was ugly before that's not true at all everything, Josh. I don't think like, oh my God, he thought I was ugly before. That's not true at all. Everything you say just adds to my egotism. It never brings me down. It just feeds my narcissistic tendencies. Yeah, you called me a creative genius the other day. And I was like, literally felt like I had won the Miss Congeniality pageant. I felt like Sandra Bullock.
Starting point is 00:06:03 I one time, the one time i'm like josh is like really talented and really creative i don't know what i'm gonna do when he's not here and now his head is the size of jupiter oh yeah i'm trying to say but sorry vacuum nicole okay so is this so is it a living chicken or is it a dead chicken? Living chicken. You must slaughter it and bleed it yourself. I must slaughter it myself. And the egg is in the egg. Yes, but you have an angry chicken guarding it. Oh.
Starting point is 00:06:32 And keep in mind, okay, so I have this problem where I don't understand historical context. Like, I think anything before, like, the Renaissance, people were just kind of wearing rags, running around, slaughtering small birds and barking at each other. And I know society has existed for tens of thousands of years and humans for, I don't know, maybe millions. Again. Have humans been alive for millions of years? No. Ryan said no.
Starting point is 00:06:54 He's typing. Not a million. If I had to guess, if I had to guess, 75,000. Neanderthals 75,000 years ago. What's the number? What's the real number? Someone, someone idiot check us because we need that. We need idiot checking.
Starting point is 00:07:09 We need live idiot checks. Which is great that we're the ones having these discussions. I love how to open the podcast, we're like, okay, so real historians and archaeologists have already settled this. Well, let's get our completely uninformed opinions. Yeah, let's get vacuum Josh and vacuum Nicole to really duke it out. Apparently, Josh, 200K years.
Starting point is 00:07:29 200,000 years. That's a lot of years. Yeah. But, okay. I don't know because I feel like, you know, adding to historical stuff, for sure there's a lot more imagery of eggs like being used in like sacrificial things
Starting point is 00:07:45 and stuff like that. More so than chickens, according to the ancient Egyptians. No, there were in like I said, chickens weren't even thought of as food on a large scale. I must say, because I lose the argument if I don't say it on a large scale,
Starting point is 00:07:58 then it's completely done. They weren't often thought of as food and they were most likely used for cockfights, which is the thing. But anyone who knows anything about the modern. used for cockfights which is the thing but anyone who knows anything about the modern what yeah so this is the thing apparently 10 000 years ago uh they think it started in rural china people would raise chickens mostly for just entertainment just but not for food but not for food which i think this actually supports my argument uh-huh how do they know it wasn't good eaten? Do you eat roosters?
Starting point is 00:08:25 You don't eat roosters. Yeah, no, you do. So the way the modern chicken industrial process goes is that, you know, you only can use hens for laying eggs. So only the females, right? Okay. And there's one breed of chicken that is good for laying eggs. And there's one breed of chicken that's good for meat. Both males and females are used for meat.
Starting point is 00:08:41 So you might be wondering, if you're breeding laying chickens, what happens to all the males? Exactly. They just get literally, as they're born, they're just tossed in a grinder. And it's called culling is the industrial term. But that's a big thing. But so you see the separation of males and females.
Starting point is 00:08:58 And so supposedly back in the day, if all these males are being bred for cockfighting, then there are female hens that are laying eggs and people are likely eating those, right right so that probably started on a large scale before chickens were eaten on a large scale but my question is how did people know chickens weren't good for eating another thing i think of is everybody before let's say 1750 was just like poor they're just in rags you know i don't like i assume that everyone scavenged for food constantly the monarchy josh there's like there were six rich people, and those are the only ones we know about from history.
Starting point is 00:09:29 And then everyone else is just a peasant that died at like 15. Yeah, yeah, yeah. After giving birth to three children. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, that is the view of history that I have. And I know it's ahistorical in that there were great societies built probably in prehistory as well. Yeah, Mesopotamia. Yeah, Atlantis.
Starting point is 00:09:44 They were underwater i've seen the real i saw the disney movie atlantis is not real but my point is someone had to have eaten a chicken and said yo this sucks we should make them fight each other that had to have happened how would they know it needed food also has to do with like the defenseless egg like like the chicken ain't gonna guard the egg forever the chicken's gotta go eat the chicken's gotta go sleep she's gotta go do stuff like you can just reach under a chicken and just bloop like remove it it's not that hard also like it's not like the roosters are sitting on the the eggs you know the roosters are out like gallivanting that the hens are defenseless yeah roosters you go they're trying to find some chicken play. Dude, this podcast is going to make me a vegan.
Starting point is 00:10:26 I strongly believe it. Yeah. It's sickening. If you weren't a vegan after the episode where I talked about disemboweling someone to make a hot dog, it's tough to make this one vegan. Oh, actually, PETA did like one of our recent YouTube videos where we made a vegan Baconator. Oh, that's nice. Shout out to PETA.
Starting point is 00:10:42 They commented and were like, that rice paper bacon was great. And I just wanted to comment back like, don't watch any of our other videos. Stick to that one. PETA, if you're listening, which I'm sure you're not, but if anyone sends you this little tidbit, please don't watch anything else we make
Starting point is 00:10:57 because we love meat. I don't think I'm one to really comment on ethics. Yeah. I don't know why we have this podcast where we debate philosophical, ethical things. It's funny you bring up stealing eggs from chickens. Because one of the things they actually found out in early egg farming production, which does kind of lend to the point that, you know, eggs are probably eaten on a mass scale first,
Starting point is 00:11:19 is that if you just like stole an egg from a chicken, the chicken would just be like, oh, that sucks. My baby's gone. Gotta lay another one. And so basically that's how like large scale egg production was born. Yeah, you steal the eggs. You steal the egg and then you trick it
Starting point is 00:11:34 into being like, oh, gotta have another kid. Yeah, well, we have eaten flesh since the beginning of time. Yeah. So in a world where maybe like, yeah, chickens were, you know, taken and cut up and eaten. But I don't think that. I truly think it's eggs.
Starting point is 00:11:51 And I would eat an egg before a piece of chicken. Have you seen me? I eat eggs. I eat two eggs a day, every single day for my whole entire life. I'm a fellow ovophile. Look at me breaking out. I say T-words that me breaking out. Okay. So I really love eggs. There was one day here where for lunch, I think you saw me and watched and discussed where I just ate five scrambled eggs and dipped it in ketchup as I ate it with my hands. It was seven scrambled eggs.
Starting point is 00:12:18 It's bulking season. Every season is bulking season to be fair when you're afraid of your masculinity being tarnished um my point is we love eggs there are a lot of people who don't love eggs uh number one guy fieri does not love eggs uh number two my girlfriend julia she also does not love eggs what those are the only two people that i can name off the top of my head do you do you hide eggs into things for her to eat i don't like she's not she just doesn't like eating a whole egg like i'm someone where if i'm running a little bit low on food, I'll just be like, well, I got eggs. I'll crack an egg on this and it becomes a meal.
Starting point is 00:12:49 So she won't eat like a hard boiled egg. Yeah, she like she doesn't like it. Like we made ramen together the other day and she doesn't do the hard boiled egg, which like pains me in my heart a little bit. I still love her very dearly. But to me, that's the best part of the ramen. And I love the kind of, you know, fudgy yolk. Yeah, that fudgy yolk with like just the clean, bouncy protein of the white. But I think there's a legitimate reason why people would find eggs disgusting.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Because there was an article I read a while ago that was talking about the mayonnaise disgust. Sure, yeah, I remember that article. Yeah, where it's all about. People are disgusted by mayonnaise. Because it resembles bodily fluids. Yes. And if you think about egg whites,, it certainly resembles a certain bodily fluid. And that's gross as hell.
Starting point is 00:13:27 But no, I think there is a legitimate reason to be disgusted by eggs that would influence someone to not eat that over bird flesh. No way. I don't agree with that at all. I think eggs are the building blocks of life. There is proteins. There's fats. It's amazing.
Starting point is 00:13:43 It's in its own protective shell. You can do a million things with an egg. You can scramble it. You can poach it. You can, have you ever roasted an egg before? I think I did once. Can you roast an egg? Yeah, like you can just basically hard boil an egg,
Starting point is 00:13:57 but like hard roast an egg. Yeah. Yeah, and it actually, it kind of caramelizes a little bit or the proteins get browned, I suppose, not caramelized on the outside. And it just tastes a little bit worse than a hard-boiled egg i don't think i could eat a roasted egg actually so scratch that part but eggs are the they're the genesis of life they're the beginning the eggs are the start and they are the first thing you put in your mouth and that's what
Starting point is 00:14:18 humans did too josh i'm sorry i don't i don't this vacuum situation did nothing for me i'm sorry i have to go with the facts. And I can't think about this in a philosophical sense. It makes sense. Like, oh, humans ate flesh first. Why wouldn't they eat chicken flesh? But they didn't eat chicken flesh first. I do think they ate the egg first.
Starting point is 00:14:36 I'm sorry. Roman centurions used to bring chickens to battlefields because they thought like their behavior would predict war. These are all things that I had no idea. I'm so glad you proposed this topic. I've heard of that actually. I've heard of that chicken thing before where they put them and like if the chicken is like just sitting there hanging out,
Starting point is 00:14:51 like they're in trouble, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. If the chicken was all like lively and searching for food and looking for fights, they were like, oh, it's going to be a good battle, boys. Yeah, it's not like that. Did you know that my grandma is a very superstitious woman, R.I.P.? Eggs are very important in uh in our culture so uh actually chickens are too i'm going to tell you two stories about how chickens and
Starting point is 00:15:10 eggs are important so my grandma used to take an if i was sick she would take an egg and she would hold it in her hand and she would take a lead a piece of lead not a pencil just like a piece of lead like yeah and she would make a circle of every single person in my life and then she would wrap the egg in a piece of plastic and she would press it with even pressure between each name and she remembered every single name and then whatever like the egg would crack on that's the person who like made me sick who like gave me the evil eye what do you do to them after you find out you don't do anything you just know it and you take you take a broken yolk and you put it in between your palms and also on the roof of your mouth.
Starting point is 00:15:50 So that's one story. You want to hear another story? This is a really fun story. Yeah, please do. Okay. So one time my grandma snuck in. This is so embarrassing. One time my grandma snuck in a live chicken to Cedars-Sinai Hospital
Starting point is 00:16:03 to sacrifice it for my dad. I think that's awesome. That's metal. Yeah. So we literally came in with a live chicken. We don't do this anymore. This was like very, very old school. Like this isn't like I don't agree with this stuff, but this is what my grandma used to do.
Starting point is 00:16:19 She came in with a chicken in a box, a live chicken. She walked through the front gate of cedar sinai walked in went up to the seventh floor my dad was there and uh just uh we just basically sacrificed the chicken in a hospital i love that story i think it's beautiful culture is beautiful is a thing a white guy would say for For the evil eye reasoning. For evil eye. But I don't think it's good to do that stuff. I don't believe in chicken sacrifice. What was the cleanup like?
Starting point is 00:16:48 I don't know. It wasn't. I wasn't there. I mean, like, how'd they kill the chicken? There's a guy. Oh, yeah. The guy kills the chicken. There's a special person that comes and sacrifices the chicken.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Yeah, but I mean, like, are they- It's called kapha rot, Josh. You've never heard of this before? I've never heard of kapha rot. Yeah, this is a thing. I was the kind of Jew where, like, we'd eat bagels on Saturday and, like, you know, we'd do matzo ball soup when Hanukkah rolled around. No, we were witchcraft. We were Jews that dabbled in witchcraft.
Starting point is 00:17:12 But yeah, no, this is a very real thing. And it's actually been a discussion between a lot of like Jewish people to like not do this anymore because it's not fair to the chickens. And I agree with that 100%. But my grandma was just like sneaking them into hospitals and stuff, which is why I believe eggs were first. Because they are less cleanup and not as annoying. And there's no blood. Eggs are eaten before chickens because within your family's rituals,
Starting point is 00:17:39 it's more, it's less cleanup. Exactly. Yeah. I see that argument. I see why there should be no reason to argue against that. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense to me.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Thank you for agreeing with me and with history and with science and with witchcraft. One thing about this is it's all tainted by me just not understanding history. Because if you look back to even a chicken that was raised 100 years ago, have you had an heirloom chicken breed? Of course.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Yeah, I mean- Like a Jidori chicken? I don't even think Jidori is technically a heritage breed chicken is what they're called. I don't even think Jidori is technically a heritage. I think that's just an example. Jidori, for anyone who doesn't know, they tried to market themselves as like the Kobe beef of chickens. But it's really just a kind of like clever brand name.
Starting point is 00:18:18 I've never enjoyed it. No, they started selling it at like a grocery store near here and it's kind of just chicken. Yeah. But I've had some like heritage breed chickens and the actual breast on them even think of a silky chicken yeah the breast on it is just like a fifth the size of any other chicken there's so silky chickens in the freezer there's so little usable meat on them and so like if i'm you know if i'm looking at the big busty chickens walking around now like we breed chickens so breast dominant which what a weird adjective to around now like we breed chickens so breast dominant
Starting point is 00:18:45 which what a weird adjective to apply to anyone we breed chickens to be so breast dominant that they literally can't walk like their heads are dragging on the ground we've talked about this we talked about this with the chicken nugget and uh yeah chicken what was it boneless wings the boneless wings one yeah we've talked about chicken gazongas before yeah but the chicken gazongas factor into this because if you're looking at like these skinny little birds back then, they're probably not enticing. You're probably like, I want to see these two slaughter each other in combat. Wow.
Starting point is 00:19:11 And also be used for weird oracle reasons by the Roman guard. You know what would be weird? If they, instead of cockfights, they did like snake fights. And then at the ends of the snake's tails, they put like little guns on them. Yeah. Yeah, I think about on them yeah yeah i think about that yeah i think about like what if you know we just took i don't know two like like mongooses but like you know uh i don't know we gave them katanas you know like can you imagine that little cute mongoose is a big old samurai sword that'd be great that's what this podcast has turned into
Starting point is 00:19:41 what two animals do you want to see fight with which weapons? You want to see like a copy bar with a flail mace? Full like little French knight armor? French dogs with sling blades? I like your argument about eggs being the building blocks of life. Yeah. In no other format
Starting point is 00:20:01 is both of our attention deficit disorders more pronounced than this podcast. I think it was important for us to do this, though. I think it was, too. Yeah, we got out a lot of tendons that were deep inside of our brains. I think so. This is like half therapy session, half maybe trying to make entertaining content. This was really cathartic for me.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Nicole, we have heard what you and I have to say. Now it's time to find out what other wacky ideas are rattling around there in the Twitterverse. It's time for a segment we call Opinions Are Like Casseroles. You didn't even try that time. First up, we got at Oh Holy Jolie. Scrambled eggs taste amazing if you add A1 sauce, cheese, and cayenne pepper when preparing. A1 sauce, A1 sauce I pepper, when preparing a one sauce, a one sauce,
Starting point is 00:20:48 I love because it's ketchup esque, right? I love a one. I am an unabashed fan of a one. I, if I'm like making a really good steak that I take time to prepare, I'm typically doing, you know, some sort of like red,
Starting point is 00:20:59 whiny, mushroomy, shalloty thing. So I'm not going to a one it, but if it's a weeknight steak, I will absolutely put a one on it. If it's available, I don't even stock it in my house but it's something that i should i don't touch a1 at all ever that's like it that's one of those gross old sauces yeah i can't it was made before people again we talked about how stupid i am it related to history but like to
Starting point is 00:21:20 me it was like back then people just didn't know what tasted good and so they were like oh what do we got like raisins and fish sauce? Yeah, put it on steak. Yeah. And I kind of love that. No, I'm not about it. So I can see it. As someone who loves ketchup on eggs, I see A1 sauce on eggs, and I am with you.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Okay. More MCD says, corn and chocolate pudding was a childhood favorite of mine. That's great. I wouldn't put it in chocolate pudding, but I might actually enjoy it in vanilla pudding, because corn and vanilla is actually a really beautiful combination. So I agree with that, but not with the chocolate part. I don't know about chocolate. I'm
Starting point is 00:21:54 certainly interested in trying it, because I love corn desserts. Me too. So underrated. So good. One of my favorite desserts is a Vietnamese dessert, and a little precursor, there is one person on Twitter, a person who i believe identifies as vietnamese who comments on my pronunciation of vietnamese words and i was on a roll where she was like you did a great job with with like bun tit nung i really tried and then ban seo she
Starting point is 00:22:17 said i said really weird so now i'm i'm very self-conscious in calling this dessert. Je bap. Anyways, it's like, yeah, I think, I don't know, dude, it's spelled like C H E B A P, but Vietnamese is a very tonal language. So I don't know how to pronounce it.
Starting point is 00:22:32 All I know is that it is absolutely delicious. It is like, it's basically just like a corn custard, but, um, the J word that I am apparently not pronouncing, right. It's any sort of like cold kind of custardy thing that's made.
Starting point is 00:22:44 It can be made with like beans with like cold kind of custardy thing that's made. It can be made with like beans, with like bananas, with corn, with anything. And it is really fantastic. It's like this whole world of kind of like grain puddings that are eaten for dessert with condensed milk. So I love corn desserts. I'm actually planning on stealing the ice cream maker from work this weekend and making my own corn ice cream because I believe the first corn of the season is in.
Starting point is 00:23:04 So I'm into that. Go for it, man. All right. At SpacePenguin21, not a roast, but I am going to get a dog. Would you like me to give pats for you? Eh, I'm a cat guy. Give it all the pats. Nicole says all the pats.
Starting point is 00:23:17 You're a dog person? Oh, I love dogs. I hate cats. Oh, no. I need an animal that can show disdain for me. Cats are buttholes. I don't accept unconditional love because me, I'm like, I didn't earn it. I didn't earn the love.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Dog, why are you excited to see me? I haven't done anything for you. Whereas cats, they'll ignore you until you can do things for them. No, I love dogs. Please. You know what? Also, give your dog a little snoot kiss. Give him a little snoot kiss. Give him a little snoot kiss.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Okay. Trevor Dodd Speakers. Cordon Bleu is undervalued and should be respected and needs to be on more menus. I believe you're alluding to chicken Cordon Bleu. I was like, do you mean the defunct culinary school, the Cordon Bleu? I thought I meant the actor, Corbin Bleu. Oh, you mean, oh, the jump rope dude? Yeah, from Jump In.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Push it, push it to the limit, limit cause we're in it. Jump In was High School Musical but instead of basketball, it was boxing. Instead of musicals, it was jump ropes. So it wasn't a movie about jump ropes? No, it was a movie about jump ropes, but it was like... Boxing? His dad
Starting point is 00:24:20 wanted him to be a boxer, but all he wanted to do was like competitive double dutch. What? That was a friend they were like we high school musical was a success uh dude wants to play basketball or dude's dad wants to play basketball but all he wants to do is musical theater and they're like well let's just repeat this what are the two next most popular sports and activities double dutch and boxing and that was the movie anyways crazy okay chicken cordon bleu let me actually read the textbook uh when i say textbook i mean wikipedia definition a cordon bleu. Let me actually read the textbook. When I say textbook, I mean Wikipedia definition.
Starting point is 00:24:46 A cordon bleu is a dish of meat wrapped around cheese, then breaded and pan-fried or deep-fried. Veal or pork cordon bleu is made of veal and pork pounded thin and wrapped around a slice of ham and a slice of cheese, breaded and then pan-fried or baked. Okay, I love cordon bleu, but it's outdated, unfortunately. And I don't really agree that we need to bring it back. There are so many other foods that are just waiting to be discovered
Starting point is 00:25:10 and put on the plates of America. So no, I think cordon bleu came, it enjoyed, now it's time for it to go. Yeah, I don't weep for chicken cordon bleu. No. Also, the idea of stuffing meats, whereas, okay, so we talked about this idea where if you eat berries, it just becomes a smoothie in your mouth. That's kind of how I feel about the layering of certain foods. Like I don't enjoy eating, say, cupcakes, for example, because I'd much prefer a layer cake. I think that is the way to get the proper amount of like icing and cake in your mouth. I just,
Starting point is 00:25:39 I don't dig on cupcakes. There's always too much frosting on them and you can never quite get your mouth around a full satisfying bite. That's what I feel about chicken cordon bleu i love the flavor combination of cheese and ham and chicken i just don't need it to be stuffed inside of one another yeah totally i think there's actually reiterations of cordon bleu that are yet to be discovered uh like sizzler's malibu chicken they don't have the labor capacity to well i think sizzler is now bankrupt at least all the ones around here closed r.i.p sizzler and all buffets uh but yeah they just like stack ham and cheese on chicken and it's great all right at gid kids strawberries dipped in sour cream and then in brown sugar is one of the best fruit desserts this sounds like right up my alley this is like one of those things you binge eat at
Starting point is 00:26:19 like 3 a.m where it's like these are the three things i have in my cupboard yeah i've been really into like simple fruit desserts during court well i've been into all desserts during quarantining times because you know you get the sads and you want to eat sweet stuff oh yeah so like just little things like sprinkling you know cinnamon and sugar on pineapple stuff like that so yeah dude like sour cream strawberries brown sugar those are all good things i want it in my mouth i'm gonna try this i don't know how to say this, but I'm going to try my best. La gringuita de show says... La gringuita.
Starting point is 00:26:50 La gringuita... De sheo. La gringuita de sheo says, yogurt is better salty than sweet. Yes. I love yogurt so much. Like, Americans don't eat enough yogurt. Like, not that, like, vanilla, like, Yoplait stuff. Like, just pure eat enough yogurt. Like not that like vanilla, like Yoplait stuff,
Starting point is 00:27:06 like just pure unadulterated like yogurt. Like just start eating yogurt, ladies and gents. It's so good for you. The probiotics, insane. The flavor, delicious. Have you ever had chips with yogurt? I know you have because every time we have like a five minute break in the office, I turn around, Nicole has a bowl of yogurt,
Starting point is 00:27:24 and she's shaking a whole bag of chips into the bowl of yogurt, which I respect. Yo man, it's the best snack that no one's ever heard of. It's delicious. It's funny growing up with like the most basic of kind of white American palates and tastes where I just thought all yogurt was like go-gurt. Not even go-gurt though, because I had the imitation go-gurt growing up. So it was like, purple Fogurt fun. So I never knew how beautiful yogurt could be.
Starting point is 00:27:50 And then you start getting into like, labneh and all these just beautiful quark. Do that Bulgarian yogurt. Bulgarian mountain yogurt. We've had the same exact brand. It's almost like fizzy with how tart it is. Oh, I love it. Oh yeah, savor yogurt dishes all the way.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Sometimes I'll just like make a stew and just scoop some yogurt into it and slurp down my yogurt stew. Oh yeah. Yeah. Lovely. What is the, what's the, I believe it's a Lebanese dish that's like kofta or kefta. Yeah. That's like stewed in yogurt.
Starting point is 00:28:19 You can make kofta like that. I don't know if you're, oh, that's great. Yeah. Stew your meatballs and stew your meatballs in yogurt. Yeah, just make sure it doesn't break. Yeah, that's the trouble with cooking with especially a high protein yogurt. For sure. At Katie K425, Frito bean dip is the Texan version of hummus.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Also love you guys. Aw, Katie, we love you too. I'd agree with this. Although there's some contention about the etymology of hummus and how you can apply it to certain things. Because like hummus is literally the Arabic word for chickpea. Can you just say hummus? Hummus.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Why? I'm saying it properly. Well, no, it's weird to say like hummus is the word, you know? Anyways, fine. Hummus is hummus. That's how it's pronounced. Not whatever, neither here nor there. Hummus is the Arabic word you win for chickpea.
Starting point is 00:29:05 And so like, is anything made, you know, with a different bean considered hummus? You go to places all like edamame hummus. Oh my gosh, we should talk about that on the Piggity podcast. We should. Next week, Ryan. What's in a name?
Starting point is 00:29:15 I'm fascinated by that. But I agree that if you're talking about the most Texan version of hummus, Frito bean dip is one delicious and two, you are spot on. Yes, I agree with this, Katie. Katie, you're so smart. Nicole, how do you eat your hummus frito bean dip is one delicious and two you are spot on yes i agree with this katie katie you're so smart nicole how do you how do you eat your hummus because there's two thoughts there's like do you pinch and scoop or do you swipe uh i pinch and scoop really yeah but
Starting point is 00:29:35 also i buy sabra so like what do i yeah that's fair that's fair i'm a big hummus swiper oh my god swipe so you just like yeah you kind of like dab the pita or the lavash or whatever around the corner and you just like drag it around especially if there's some like warm olive oil on top no i like i like take the bread in between my thumb and my index finger and i just pinch first i take a little pinch and i open the pinch and then i put stuff in it and then i eat it oh i'm hungry is what i'm finding out it's called the lochma okay um nicole kirsten oh great first name eating mashed potatoes with my fingies is more enjoyable than any utensil she said fingies bro okay i eat everything with my fingies yeah i think i saw you the other day
Starting point is 00:30:22 eating zanku chicken and you were like knuckles deep in that chicken thigh and i'm just like no no i wasn't i wasn't only knuckles deep in that chicken thigh i was going knuckles deep you go to the second knuckle and then you extract as much meat as you want and then you dip your whole hand in the hummus and then you dip that into the tabula and then you eat it in the tabbouleh i don't know you dip it all you go knuckles deep in the chicken knuckles deep in the hummus finger fingernails deep in the tabbouleh and then you got a perfect bite and you can suck it off your fingers you were literally sitting right over like right over there and then chris was right next to you and then you were just like you were just doing this like weird like finger dance yeah yeah no no utensils needed and i was
Starting point is 00:31:06 just like what the hell is going on yeah you're having such a good time i didn't want to bother you food to me is deeply personal and emotionally intimate i want to eat it how i want to eat it if i'm eating mashed potatoes with my hands with my fingies that's what i want to do nicole i support you the nicole from nicole kirsten kirsten not you i don't support you. The Nicole from the- Nicole Kirsten. Kirsten, not you. I don't support you. You're mean. Okay. Sensitive.
Starting point is 00:31:31 At Bree underscore craft, ketchup does not belong on sandwiches. This is low-key a really good one. It's low-key a really good one because then what do you consider a sandwich? I know where my politics lie on this. I've made that decision a long time ago. I did my soul searching. I have decided that both hot dogs and hamburgers are sandwiches i obviously believe ketchup belongs on both of those but if someone's like i've put ketchup on a ham sandwich before it don't taste right and i love ketchup and i love ham sandwiches but it don't taste right no you know you got to
Starting point is 00:31:59 do you don't put it on the sandwich you just just make a little like corner, you know, just a little. And you just, if you want to, you can like slightly dip your bread in it. If you really want to. Yeah, something. I think that's it. We were eating pizza in the office the other day. And it was just like a, you know, a frozen pizza. It was just an everyday.
Starting point is 00:32:19 We have so much pizza. But we didn't have any ranch dressing. And we only had a little bit of that creamy Whataburger sauce that I like putting on my pizza. Disgusting. But I wanted something to dip my crust in and so I just made a little ketchup in the corner of my plate and I started dipping pizza crust in ketchup and turns out that's the thing I enjoy.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Yeah, it's good stuff. Yeah, so I would absolutely dip, say the corner of like a Subway sandwich if I'm not eating it for the taste. Yeah, it's okay. A tuna melt? Tuna melt ketchup. With a little ketchup.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Yeah, a little hot tuna melt, a little on there. Oh, yeah. I'm into that. This is the best part of the podcast. Jenny Moonchild says, homemade General Tso's cooked with chorizo, peppers, and onions will change your life. No, it won't, Jenny Moonchild. Who's putting chorizo in my General Tso's?
Starting point is 00:33:01 If you're doing that, I'm calling the police. If you're doing that, I'm calling the police. Are you kidding? If you're doing that, I'm going to go to your food truck, assuming this is 2009 in LA. That's the exact time that all this food was coming out. Yeah, I can't. I don't like this. I'm into it.
Starting point is 00:33:18 I mean, do I think all the spice combinations would really work? Conflicting flavors, man. I can't. One reason I think people gravitated so hard to this, you know, quote unquote Asian-Mexican fusion that's going around, which like Roy Choi is a fantastic chef, and all his food is incredible and balanced and well thought out. We love him. We love him. We stand a Roy Choi. Yeah. But then so many of his imitators started, you know, advertising Korean barbecue tacos. And there was a place right by UCLA that used to be called Buck Fitties, but it's now it's called Tommy Taco.
Starting point is 00:33:39 And they advertised a Korean barbecue taco. It was literally their carne asada with their teriyaki bowl sauce on it. And that was it. And so people realize that just Americans like sweet things. Yes. And so if you can put sugary things in a taco with like some spicy, then people are going to eat it. I was so mad when I found that out. Josh, have you ever been to Gucci in Westwood?
Starting point is 00:33:59 I, Gucci in Westwood was my like number one hangover meal because I would buy the sundubu chige, right? The pork and tofu stew. And I'd get a large and it was just sold in a big gulp cup. Yeah. They just give you a 40 ounce styrofoam cup with the lid on it that you could put a straw in. Wow. In theory, you could drink this tofu stew with a straw if you wanted to. I love Gushi in Westwood. Me and my boyfriend went on Saturday. Really? What'd you get? I just got the, I just got the, the, what is it? Oh my gosh. The Galby?
Starting point is 00:34:29 Yeah, yeah. Is that, it's just a Galby? Yeah, yeah. And then he got a short rib slash Galby plate. And they have the vinegar that you just like put on your rice. Everything about that place is just the bomb. 12 bucks you eat for days. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Some guy drove his car off of the curb and he was stuck there for like 40 minutes. What? Yeah. Crazy. At Spaceman Kermit, Canadian bacon leftover from making the best pizza combo ever? No prob. Just add some to wheat bread, Tillamook sharp cheddar, mayo on one side, raspberry jam. What is this person saying?
Starting point is 00:35:00 They're saying that a sandwich made with Canadianadian bacon cheddar mayonnaise and raspberry jam i'm i'm into that i'd love a little shmary it's kind of monte cristo monte cristo-esque but why are they putting mayo when they say one side i always think it's like you know what i mean like one side of the sandwich like half like a pizza you'd split up yeah yeah yeah that's how i think so so i don't know i'm confused you're thinking like a rainbow striping of mayonnaise and raspberry jam. Oh, okay, okay. See, because I was thinking, you know what I was thinking, right? Do you know what I was thinking?
Starting point is 00:35:34 Yeah, you do. But it's like, I thought it was just like someone making a sandwich, okay? And like, this is all mayonnaise and this is all raspberry and they eat and it's all mayonnaise. Yes, no, I think this person is implying that they combine the whole thing because sandwiches typically have two slices of bread, which we're getting into another philosophical discussion there. I think they're implying they put mayonnaise on one side and raspberry jam on the other. Long story short, no.
Starting point is 00:36:00 I'm into it. Again, mayonnaise and jam, great combo. Underrated. Tay Tay Bingham says, is coleslaw a salad? Husband says yes. I say no. What do y'all think? Josh, what do y'all think?
Starting point is 00:36:12 Yeah, at least two times a week I see coleslaw for dinner. You think this is a joke, but no. I eat about two heads of cabbage a week, and I will just slice it up very thin, add some meats on top, and I call that just coleslaw dinner. Any questions? Coleslaw is definitely a salad. I don't know. What else would coleslaw be? Is slaw not a salad? I guess they're questions? Coleslaw is definitely a salad. I don't know. What else would coleslaw be?
Starting point is 00:36:27 Is slaw not a salad? I guess they're saying like, oh, this is like a side. It's not meant to be a main salad. But no, expand your salad horizons. Yeah, like coleslaw is pure salad. Also, quarantine times, cabbages keep in the fridge for like months, dude. That's why I got about six heads of cabbage in my fridge right now. I believe that one million percent.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Smells weird in my apartment. Yeah, when does it not? For a multitude of reasons. Yep. And on that note, thank you for listening to A Hot Dog is a Sandwich. We've got new episodes for you every Wednesday. If you want to be featured on Opinions Are Like Casseroles, you can hit us up on Twitter at MythicalChef or NHendizadeh
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