A Problem Squared - 062 = The Ice Cream Hack and Burger Rings Packs

Episode Date: June 19, 2023

In THIS episode: 🍦 Can you lose weight with a diet of ice cream and beer? 🍔 What's up with Burger Rings?  🛎 DING! DING! DING! DING! 💼 And some A-OHHHHH-B. Here's the Burger Rings 1992 ad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo5sKqwUQBs  Here's the ACTUAL packet, as remembered by Matt and Bec: https://www.flickr.com/photos/fordsbasement/7183508658# As always, send your problems and solutions to our website: aproblemsquared.com. If you'd like to find out which Muppet you are (who doesn't, right?) you can skip ahead of Matt and Bec to do the quiz here: https://www.buzzfeed.com/jenlewis/which-muppet-are-you. And if you want more from A Problem Squared, find us on Twitter,  Instagram. and Patreon.  

zero score and half of seven years ago our presenters brought forth a new podcast conceived in friendship and dedicated to the proposition that all problems are created solvable thank you and if you notice i was adjusting it on the fly there oh i didn't really yeah really wow well now we are engaged in a great recording that's as far as i could memorize before i had to look back testing whether that notion or any notion so conceived and so dedicated can attract enough Patreon supporters. I'm joined by Beck Hill on the battlefield of problem solving. And I'm Matt Parker. Welcome to a problem square.

Do we get to sign something now? Well, no, this is the beginning of the Civil War. This is the Gett the civil war this is the oh this is the get his get his address yeah yeah this was this was lincoln trying to get everyone excited it's surprisingly short speech and there's like four different versions of it kicking around so i picked one what did he give it several times very very few tv cameras when he delivered it what so this is people's memories but he must have written it down. No, yeah.

So there's two versions he wrote down before the speech, one of which people believe is the one he actually read from when he delivered it. Right. And there are two afterwards where people are like, hey, that speech was pretty special. Can we get a copy? And he's like, yeah, I'll bang you out a special copy.

And then he's like, oh, actually, I should have slightly worded this differently. Yeah, but they're all subtly different. Yeah, yeah. It's like most of my, if I ever say an anecdote where I'm like, and then I said. Yeah, exactly. I definitely didn't say that. Not word for word.

I thought of it afterwards. So anyway, Beck, here we are. We're recording this. Yes. And these words are being recorded. Yes. Word for word. Here we are. We're recording this.

Yes. And these words are being recorded. Yes. Word for word. On this episode, it is altogether fitting and proper that we should... Work out whether you could lose weight on a diet of beer and ice cream. I look into a Mandela mystery. And we have some any other business. Let's do it.

So, Bec, how have you been?'m good excellent i'm good although i'm i don't know if the truth by the time this episode's released right i don't know if you if people would have discovered this yet oh i think they might have by now okay uh while you're away uh- have Are you doing another podcast? I did another podcast How many do you need? As a guest Okay so You've got some

Some splaining to do as I believe I may have Been on No Such Thing as a Fish Oh what? Beck Hill Our rivals have been on no such thing as a fish oh what beck hill our rivals oh not that they know it oh no i told them i told them on the show in fact oh beck some people might be listening to this because they've heard that episode that's true and they've come across to

this from it hello everyone from no Such Thing as a Fish. Yeah. Because I also, now I don't know if it's made the edit, but I also pointed out during the record that our aim is to get more five-star reviews than them. Yes. Good, good. So that could backfire horribly. That could backfire horribly. Yes.

Well, that's now sunk. For the record, were there wonderful people? Yeah, they are. They're great. I had a lot of fun. It was a really good sunk. For the record, were there wonderful people? Yeah, they are. They're great. I had a lot of fun. It was really critical. And they paid me. What?

I know. They're just raising so many bars. Yeah, it was fun. You know, I've never been on fish. I assumed you had been. Yeah. And yeah, I then found out. I'm pretty sure

Helen Arney and Steve Mould Have both been on Fish I've Who are my Fellow Festival of Spoken Nerd performers I've definitely done stand up As like the warm up For their live recordings

Yes I've done that too Yeah I guess you're just not funny enough That could be the problem I wonder if it's the same Same thing that I have Which was Everyone's just assumed You've been funny enough. That could be the problem. I wonder if it's the same thing that I have, which was everyone's just assumed you've been on it already. I could be a bit on QI. Yeah.

I haven't been on QI. So maybe they felt sorry for me. Maybe they felt sorry for you. Yes. 100% know what happened. They just took the funny one. That's fine. I don't know, Matt.

You make a lot of jokes that I don't get at first, but I do later. That's not the definition of funny, Beck. You make a lot of jokes that I don't get at first, but I do later. That's not the definition of funny, Beck. No, it's just delayed funny. Yeah, delayed funny. I'm funny, but with time lag, yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of fun. My jokes are so fast, they're time-delated.

That's another one of those jokes. Yes, exactly. Oh, I get it now. How have you been? I've been good. I haven't done any other podcasts, you know. Yeah, you were in Australia when we recorded, not the last one, but the one before it.

Yes. And I was surprised that you'd, like, taken your equipment over to Australia because I was like, oh, were you doing another podcast? You were like, this one. I was literally doing this podcast and did some voiceovers for some videos and actually you know what now now you've done you've done this thing as a fish and I'm there you know talking about how our podcast is good to you know wear peers with them and then I've just realized that what I wanted to talk about now is an update on my problem with my two pairs

of underwear that was stuck together i feel like that might undermine my previous previous sass slightly this is what gets the listeners but engaged but my my undies are now liberated in fact let me just i like the fact that you've decided to do this as a catch-up and not in any other business. So for new listeners, Matt got a pair of underpants when he was last in Australia, not most recently. Yes, that's true. A pair of a pair of underpants.

And they were attached at the groin by a security tag. Yes. And Matt didn't realize until he left. Correct. And brought them back to the UK. And brought them back to the UK. And taken them out of the packaging. And put them in the washing machine once.

Oh, I didn't realize they washed them. They looked like they'd been in circulation. Oh, actually, So this is interesting. So do you wash clothes after you've bought them before you wear them? Not always. What actually happened was I unpackaged them, realized they were attached to the security tag and went, oh, because I was going to put them away just in the drawer. But then I was like, huh.

So I left them out. But then they later got scooped up when I was doing a round of what needs to be washed. Yeah. I was like, what are these doing out here? Need to be washed. And then when they came out of the machine, I realized they were, I went to hang them out. I'm like, where are these stuck together?

And I realized it was a security. Got it. I'm hoping you're going to pull it. Oh, the pit bag is just, I've separated the underwear. That's all. I just brought it as a visual demonstration. I mean, Matt's just showing me a pair of underpants now. Now, for the record.

This is the most, like, the most roundabout way you've got to find an excuse to show me your underpants. Yeah, well, I'm wearing the other pair that was separated out of a celebration. I mean, yeah, is this your way of not getting cancelled it's like i'm gonna be i'm gonna do this in such a way such a way no one will believe that i'm deliberately yeah there's no way getting my kicks nah yeah just look for closure you've only there's only one pair though yeah can i'm wearing the other pair you're wearing the other one yeah and you're

not showing me those no absolutely not i just not. I thought I wear them out of celebration. Yeah. It's the first time I've worn them. I waited until this recording for wearing and I've not worn. I should have known. I just wanted to say that's why I'm in a particularly good mood today. Now, the last time we spoke, because I said, just take them to the shop and get them to-

You did. you did say that after i'd taken surreptitious surveillance well footage of the unlock mechanism originally said take them back to australia yes and get them unclipped and you're like i will but then you didn't go and get them i did not you went and took sneaky photos of their machine yes i did which i was like don't do that like work out how it works. Teaching people how to take off security guards so they can steal things. It's learning. Not that anyone who does that probably listens to this show. Who knows?

Who knows? So anyway, I then took your advice, took all of it this time, and I just went back to Big W at the Caranup Shopping Centre in Western Australia. I'm just went back to Big W at the Caranup shopping center in Western Australia I'm just going to go back and I didn't take the new receipt I had because that felt just a bit too fraudulent I thought you know what I'm just going to be honest I'm going to go back to the store I'm going to wear a hidden microphone and I'm going to I'm going to ask them ask them to

take off the security tag would you like to hear of course okay here we go I started recording from the car park and so if you want I've now got ambient track this is I call the shopping centre liminal space

that's a nice soundscape This is called the Shopping Centre Liminal Space. That's a nice soundscape. Can I just say, I love this. I love a soundscape. During lockdown, my friends and I sent each other just, like, just... You know how you get a voice note thing on WhatsApp? We used to just record, like, when we're out and about. Really, just ambient? Just the sound.

I did one of an overground trip for my friend who lives in Italy now. That's right. Who missed getting public transport. Well, not that, but she didn't realize how visceral it made everything. Yeah. Foxtel Studios did like an hour's in Witherspoon. Amazing. So is this like them with a Witherspoon's breakfast with the noise for an hour on YouTube?erspoon. Amazing. So this is like them with like a

Witherspoon's breakfast with the noise for an hour on YouTube. It's great. That's great. So okay here's the bit where I entered the store. Let me just find it. That's walking in the shops. That was me going in, setting the alarm off. I bought a two-pack of Bonsair a while ago, and they've still got... He's got to do it? Excellent. So I set the alarm off going in, and then I then said what I was doing, and they're like, go and talk to the desk over here.

I was like, I'm well on my way. Now, at this point, I had to go and work out where the queue was because people were kind of just milling around. So eventually I worked out where the queue was and I got, you know. Are you folks waiting? No, no, we're not. Oh, no, thanks. Hi.

Hi, I bought these here a while ago. I haven't left a tag. Have you got your receipt? I do I bought these here a while ago. Have you got your receipt? I do not know. You don't have your receipt? Nah. How long ago did you buy them? In the queue. It was a while ago.

I took them to the UK. This gentleman took these to the UK, bought them back. No receipt. Oh, oh, doubt it. Right. Can I give them back to you? First of all, they're asking if I have the receipt. Yep. And I'm them back to you? First of all, ask me if I have the receipt. Yep.

And I'm very honest, I do not have the receipt. I'm talking to, I'm going to call them anonymous, customer service person A. Oh, just want to get the tag off. Oh, okay. That's fine. Do you have the receipt? Sure.

Yeah, that's fine. Okay, thanks, guys. I'll put your account here. Thank you. I tried to put a magnet near it and everything, and it didn't come off. I don't know what customer service person A thought about this unnecessary weird bit of information. Yeah, like you just took them as a treat.

Yeah, exactly. I took them for a trip. I took them to see the world. Yeah. Now we're back. So I'm thinking, if I can't separate them, I'll just give them back to the store. Now, there was some confusion. They were like, they thought I was trying to get a refund for them.

Right. I just wanted the tag removed. I explained the magnet. They said, don't do that. Very upset about that. Yeah. No, my secret was just to stand around being a caucasian male for a while yeah and they just went yeah all right i'll look i'll be honest matt i think like if you're trying to get money for them yeah they

should be a little bit suspicious yeah i think because people don't tend to go to that desk unless they're after returns yeah i reckon even though you made it very clear that all you wanted was the tag off, immediately I think the person A was like, oh, he wants a return. Some of these return scams. Because I think that's the first thing you think about. You nick stuff and then you return it and you get the money. Yeah. So once they realized.

I think you could have told them to smell them and be like, I've washed them. They don't smell like shop. I've taken them all the way home and washed them and brought them back. Yeah, so they then put them in the secret machine, removed the tag. Yep. And you don't know how the secret machine works.

Still don't know. So I was about to say the saga is over, except I still don't know how the secret machine works. Yeah. I still don't know how the mechanism, the security mechanism works. We should find the person who makes them. Yeah. Or invented it.

So I feel like now that any practical use of that knowledge is gone. I'm wearing my underwear. It's purely academic curiosity at this point. Yeah, yeah. So I'd still like to know if any listeners have any insight into security tax. To be fair, no one came forward when i had the problem no but now that i don't need to know i'm just curious if anyone's prepared to come forward anonymously go to problemsquared.com enter it into the solution posing page i very much

doubt i mean it's the same as the problem posing page. It's the problem posing page, but you choose the solution. So in answer to your question, that's how I've been. That's a good update. Thank you. I appreciated it. We should probably go answer some real problems now. Seeing as we've got all these no such thing as a Fisher. Yeah, welcome aboard, everybody.

Yeah, let's talk about your pants. This is it. Look, I don't want to give them false expectations of what this Yeah. Welcome aboard, everybody. Yeah. Let's talk about your pants. This is it. Look, I don't want to give them false expectations of what this podcast is. No, that's fair. That's totally fair. I feel like they've all been onboarded very accurately. Our first problem was sent in by David from Ottawa, who went to the problem posing page at problemsquared.com, and they said, can one lose weight with a, in quotes,

beer and ice cream diet? Huh. They revised some extra information. They say the argument goes that because both are chilled, your body has to burn more calories to stay warm whenever you eat. So they're saying your body's got to bring the beer and ice cream up to body temperature. And that takes energy. And that's weight loss.

I mean, I'm convinced, David. So they say that's going to offset the calories in the beer and the ice cream. Is there any truth to this? If so, to what degree? Could Beck truly be chill? A little joke there on how your name, if you move the space, it says Be Chill. So Be Chill.

Yes. So I looked it up because they quoted beer and ice cream diet, which made me think. Is it a real thing? Is this a thing? Yeah. It is. Yeah, well, what I could find was the original reference to it I could find.

I can't find a date date but there's a clipping from something from the school of physics university of sydney and this is beer and ice cream diet those people so basically what it says is one calorie is defined as the energy it takes to heat a gram of water by one degree celsius correct so if you were to heat a gram of water by one degree Celsius. Correct. So if you were to eat a gram of cold. Classic metric units. That's it. And obviously like one gram of water we know is one milliliter. So if you were to eat a gram of cold food,

you would spend a calorie per degree below body temperature to balance out the heat you spend on warming up the consumed product. So this is assuming, let's say the food is mostly water. Yeah, which I'm sure it is in terms of specific heat. So it says, for example, each gram of food at zero degrees Celsius is going to take about 37 calories of energy. If you have 168 grams in a serving of ice cream, they say it has about 1,200 calories.

of ice cream. Yeah. They say it has about 1200 calories. Uh, and then they work out, you know, looking at how many calories are in 168 grams and then how many calories you need to burn for it to reach body temperature, 37 degrees. So they're saying it would take 6,216 calories on heating up the ice cream to body temperature like it would take that energy away from you which means you've just burnt like way more than you've actually eaten and you're looking at me because i know that that we both know yeah why this is wrong that's wrong but their argument is yeah you've the ice cream's 1,200 calories. You've just burnt 6,216 calories. So you've actually used more. And they go, the same thing goes for cold beer.

If it's served in a cold glass, you're going to end up with burning more calories than you're eating. That's why famously, all the beer and ice cream you want. Yeah, that's right. That's what they say. In fact, the more. In fact, you lose weight. The better. Yeah.

Yeah. So I think this is where this comes from. Apparently this paper, to use quotation marks, was shared around a lot in the old days of the internet. Email forwards and whatnot. Yep. So I think it dates back to that sort of thing. And people would quote that as being like, wow, it's good math. So I was a bit confused at first for people playing

along at home see if you can spot the mistake yeah this was something that i was like something's not right i didn't know exactly what it was but i was like something's not right here yeah until i realized when we say calories in the uk or the us yeah uh listeners in any other country, they all use kilojoules. Yeah. UK and US are the only countries that use calories. Yeah. When we say calories, we're actually talking about kilocalories. Good old K-cals. Yeah, K-cals. And you'll notice this.

If you've got a packet near you, check the nutritional information. And the calories are marked as K-cal, which means 1,000 calories. 1,000 calories. So if you're saying this ice cream has 1,200 calories, what you're really saying is it has 1,200,000 calories. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1,200 Kcal. Yeah, like that's what they mean when they say calories. They actually mean Kcal.

They're flipping. They're using calories to mean two different things. Exactly. And so because it's 1,000,000. With three orders of magnitude difference between them. Right. different things exactly and so because it's three orders of magnitude difference between them right so even if their math is correct and our bodies burn over 6 000 actual calories in heating i believe you're burning six or seven kcal just to heat it up to heat it up yeah yeah but when you

look at 6 000 out of 1 200, it's not much. No. It's very negatable. It's trivial. Yeah. So no is the short answer. You can't lose weight eating ice cream. But you said 6 out of 1,200. If those numbers are to be believed, that's like half a percent. So in David's question here, if so, to what degree?

Half a percent. Yeah. That's how much. That's what you're burning to heat up your ice cream. Now, even more, now obviously ice cream is. Calorific. Yeah, sugar and fat. It's full of carbohydrates and fats.

So in huge quantities, not good for you. And I actually called my brother, Mike, Mike Hill, friend of the show, for his help as someone who is both a mathematician and PE teacher. That's true. For some advice. And he explained that there are four types of energy that our body uses. No.

But most people only think of three. Four? I think of one. We've already mentioned two, carbohydrates and fats. Oh, got it. uses. No. But most people only think of three. Four. I think of one. We've already mentioned two, carbohydrates and fats. Oh, got it. Right. Okay. Yeah.

The third most common one, proteins. Protein. So you've got carbohydrates. Yeah. Sugars. And bread. Yeah. Bread is one of the main.

You've got fat. Uh-huh. Which is made of. Matt's holding up his fingers. Yeah. So we've got two fingers now. Protein. Uh-huh. And you're saying there's a fourth holes. Matt's holding up his fingers. So we've got two fingers now. Protein. And you're saying there's a fourth one.

There's a fourth one. Fourth type of food. Wow. Is it beer? I mean, you're pretty much on... Is it alcohol? It is alcohol. So... Like ethanol. We could... Oh, wait a minute. This is why we shouldn't. It's because to break it down, our livers prioritize it. like they're like oh that's

we should we should uh that in here sort this out because it's you know also poison basically so your liver prioritizes it which means that it doesn't necessarily process the things that are good for you so that's one of the reasons you should never mix like exercise and drinking, because if you're moving a lot and drinking, you're, you're not doing any good for yourself because you're not giving your body the, the actual energy that it requires to do anything good with that energy. You're not building muscle. You're not helping yourself heal. If you go out dancing and you're drinking while you're dancing, I found this out because the hard way, if you're drinking while you go out dancing, you will be way more sore the next day than if you just drink water. On behalf of a lot of the cycling community, I'd like to say no.

So you're saying, where's this Leave My Rum and Raisin ice cream? It's like ice cream but now with alcohol in it yeah i got bad news for you yeah i would say don't do that so um not only that but i was uh looking more into the cult you know eating cold food burning calories that sort of thing there was a study i believe this was in 2021 that essentially found that if you eat cold food, you are technically more likely to put on weight, even though you are burning more calories. What?

Yeah. And that is because when you eat cold food, your body, it's psychological. So your body thinks you're eating fewer calories because it knows when you have cold foods, you're going to use some of it to burn up so your body is like oh i'm this is for less calories so i'm going to need to eat more in order to make up for the calories that i'm losing due to digestion so then so then you eat more cold food are you trying to justify you'll eat more than you should why you had ice cream all at once in the same day i did have ice ice cream more than once in the same day. Yeah, and you're like, oh, it's because I got cold and my body's like, oh, better eat some more.

It's not even the only time, Matt. Like multiple times I've done that. There you go. Unfortunately, the beer and ice cream diet is a myth. There you are. David, the answer was half a percent and no. Did I get a nice frosting. A frosting.

Be chill. Well done. This next problem I think comes from Matt. It does. It does. It's my problem. For the audience. It just says Matt's Mandela mystery yep yeah at least i

at least alliterated it you did and i'm hoping this has something to do with the mandela effect it does i love this do you want to give us a recap on the i thought this would be your bag yeah yeah i think i mentioned it previously but the mandela effect is a conspiracy theory that there are obviously multiple universes but sometimes we split off into another universe and some people come with it and some people don't. And that's why some of us misremember things differently. Yeah. So I think it comes from some people believing that Nelson Mandela died in prison. Died in jail, yep.

And obviously the fact that he didn't. He didn't. Not in this universe. No. So rather than admitting that they might be wrong or had been miseducated. Because everyone's got perfect memories. Yeah, that's right.

Not influenced by later thoughts or ideas. Is that we have split off into another universe and in their old universe he died in jail. I think you'll find I'm right, just it's because I'm from a different universe, stop trying to. You bring that up a lot. Yeah.

So, it's a very funny theory. Yeah, it is. But then I was all laughs and giggles. Until I had my own moment where I was like. Is that when you thought that you'd booked a specific seat on a flight and then found out that you didn't? I was like. Is that when you thought that you'd booked a specific seat on a flight and then found out that you didn't?

It was not. A little call back to the I'm a wizard bonus. Which came out earlier this month. Yeah. If you're a Patreon supporter, you get to hear me complain about a flight. Not entertaining. But it is exclusive behind the scenes content. Yeah.

No, I was in Australia and I mentioned this two episodes ago, 059, the ones that when I was recording in Australia, I'd gone up to the solar eclipse. Yes. I had made everyone get out of the car once a megameter. Yep. And we took a photo. Yep. And then we celebrated with shaped snacks.

Yes, that's right. Like lots of zeros. Yeah. One of them was Burger Rings. Yeah. I went and bought a pack of Burger Rings. That very delicious, famous Australian snack. And I looked at the pack and went,

I've never seen this packet before in my life. And I'm like, I know Burger Rings. I like Burger Rings from my childhood, Burger Rings. But the design was totally alien to me. And even like the burger rings themselves. Now, this could just be I'm aging and nostalgia, but I choose to believe I split into a different universe. And that they didn't just update their branding.

No, no, no, none of that, none of that. So I've got you a gift from Australia. I know normally I bring you back twisties. Yes. This time I've brought you back burger rings. Okay. No, no, I mean thanks. I do like them.

I seem to remember that they actually taste a bit like pickle flavor monster munch, but less scratchy. Okay. And my theory, I'm going to keep talking while Matt rummages in the background. My theory is because a lot of the time, burger flavored stuff has just pickle flavor in it because that's an overpowering flavor of burgers. They're in bags because if they exploded in my suitcase, I didn't want to get crumbs or everything. Now, no, that's not what, no, it used to be way more orange. I know.

Yeah, I agree. And I feel like the font used to be almost like, oh, they don't call it Hungry Jack's. Oh, yeah, Burger King. Burger King. It used to be almost Burger King. I'm with you 100% on that. And I looked at this. I thought I must have accidentally bought like the home brand knockoff version of Burger

Rings. But this is the official. Here you go. Have a go. Yeah. Matt's holding a Mac. It's a brown bag for starters. Brown.

So drab. And I definitely remember it being like orange and black. It was like orange and exciting. Yeah. And now I know previously, because we had that long running twisties thing. Oh. People don't like. They already don't look right.

See, exactly. People don't like the sound of us eating. So we're not going to include any chewing no but off mic beck is going to try one now it definitely changed i know that when we ate them we were probably smaller too that's true that's true maybe maybe you've changed not the burger ring but they also look like they they're smaller than i remember and they look like they're more porous. The flavor is very similar to what I remember, but there's less of it. I don't understand why burger rings are so completely different to what I remember from my Aussie childhood. I found one reference online to some kind of style change in the late 90s but i was still in australia in the late 90s

into the early 2000s but i can't find any evidence of what it looked like before that i'm showing matt a picture that i found it's a burger rings looks more like a pack that i remember it is actually a similar font to the one that's on the pack that matt has but it's more orange and it's advertising taz, which were like pogs. They were like pogs. You remember pogs. Pogs back. But my problem was just, is it just me?

Because you might look at it and you could either have said, no, you ding dong, they've always looked like that. Yeah. Or you might have said. And that would have been mystery solved. Yeah, of course. They had a massive rebranding after you left Australia. Yeah.

But it turns out you remember them. You left Australia after me as well. Maybe you only ate them up until the early 90s. I definitely ate them in the 90s. Yeah. I remember them being a solid lunch. It was a party staple. Well, for me, it was a lunchbox.

Oh, really? There you go. The little party bags. Yeah. You get a little party bag of for me, it was a lunchbox. Oh, really? The little party bags. Yeah. You get a little party bag of chips, crisps in your lunchbox. So I remember that being an occasional thing. So if anyone out there can provide any evidence of a previous Australian Burger Rings design,

go to the problem posing page at problemsquared.com. Pick solution. Let us know. We need to find an ad. There's got to be a Burger Rings ad from the 90s. There's like a famous fake Star Wars one from the 80s. We're looking at a Burger Ring ad from 1992. That was a different packet. What? No. Where?

That's a different packet. That is a different packet. That is a different packet. Look at it. It's definitely a more vibrant packet and that concludes this episode things aren't the way Matt used to remember them well I guess that's a burger ding for later

well done and now it's time for Any Other Business, which is the part of the show where we go through any miscellaneous bits of updates and new information. And just last episode, you were saying that this is your favorite part of the show. Yeah, I was. There you go. I was saying that, wasn't I?

Now, so, first bit of AOB, someone who's given us a ding, which is very nice. It's the person who sent in the eclipse problem from 059. Yep. Which I then talked about because I'd just been to an eclipse. Yes. In fact, someone else wrote in, Jake. going to the problem posing page just to say how much their mind was blown when they discovered that annular eclipses are a thing and the way the geometry works to have a annular total annular eclipse oh yeah they said they almost had to pull over they did look at that i love that wow

i do apologize if listening to this podcast if the geometric insight to this podcast make driving dangerous while listening to it, I do apologize. I do like that Jake said, wow, Matt Parker, just wow. I don't even like astronomy. Sorry, Lucy. He's apologizing to my wife. And now I'm a little bit hooked.

Does it for a living. Yeah. Anyway, Ian, who set us the original problem, given us the ding. Thank you very much, Ian. And they've said, by pure coincidence, because we were talking about weird coincidences in a recent episode uh we also happened to pick their name at random when we were thanking patreon supporters because we take three names from my randomized spreadsheet so there you are what a what a month it's been for Ian

and it's reasons like this Matt that I go into such great detail in the previous episode about why i love any other business so much yes you did if anything it was too much so far too much self-indulgent is the feedback we got really uh painting me into a corner here okay so the uh we got some other any other business yep which is that just after we finished talking about the last problem the burgering thing i then found you were obsessed you kept going okay yeah you kept googling yeah in fact i got out a pack of twisties and you didn't even i didn't even notice you didn't even notice twisties entered the room no that's just why they know what I'm like. Yeah.

This is why I still try and think of ways to do numbers with. But you're still trying to do the digit display. That's great. Okay. Anyway, so you continued down the Burger Ring mine. I managed to find a packet that someone has put up, which looks like the one that you and I remember. It looks like the one in the ad.

That's the one. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, we looks like the one that you and I remember. It looks like the one in the ad. That's the one. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, we're going to post that. And they must have changed at some point. A problem squared. At a problem squared. I just want to hear people's Burger Ring stories.

Just share your stories. Yeah. Finally, we'd like to thank three of our Patreon supporters who not only get a special limited edition behind the scenes episode, but they have a one in end chance of being thanked by name at the end of every episode because my spreadsheet generates three of their names at random, which this time includes. Well, I'm just going to say, first of all, Matt, that I think we can pronounce all these names for once. Whoa. Should we, though?

No, I don't think we should because we mispronounce everyone else's. That would be unfair. First name. David Duke. Or Dave Duke. Alexander Smythe. Geoff Matthews. Sorry, Geoff. You would have also accepted Matthews. Matthews. Matthews. Sorry, Geoff.

You would have also accepted Matt Hughes. Matt Hughes. Matt Hughes. Thank you. You've been listening to A Problem Squared with Bec Hill, myself, Matt Parker, and this podcast, as we all know, is One Nation under Lauren Armstrong Carter, our producer. Thanks for listening.

Ba-ba-ba-da-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba. Lauren Armstrong Carter, our producer. Thanks for listening. Beck, we are a substantial way through our BuzzFeed Which Muppet Are You? This time... Always sounds offensive. It does, doesn't it? You Muppet. You Muppet. But which Muppet are you?

This one just says pick a word. And the words are as follows. Meep. Rainbow. Glitter. Poultry. Ah! And that is ah with 27 H's.

Wow. Boomerang. Meatballs. Wocker. I mean, I wonder, single wocka. I wonder who these Muppets are all referred to. Shrimp. They've really dialed in.

Jesus. Final question, by the way. You should have let me just say a random word and then worked out which one was closest to one of us. Sorry. Okay. Say a word. It's too late now.

I don't know. It's hard because now I just want to choose what Muppet it makes me think of. Yeah, exactly. I'm going to try and forget everything I know about the Muppets. I mean, meatballs is a funny word. Meatballs is a good one. I often describe things as a spicy meatball. That's spicy.

I'd probably go meatballs as well. Well, there you go. Because, I mean, glitter is a fun word, but meatballs is a funnier word. Meatballs is the funniest word there. Meatballs. I do like. That is good. I am.

And if waka was like, no, waka's. Oh. But it's not. No. It's waka waka. Meatballs. Meatballs. Yeah.

Meatballs. I'm going to go the same. Next episode, we'll hit submit. see which Muppet we are. Mm-hmm. Bum, bum, bum!