A Problem Squared - 077 = Earth That Quakes and Quick Fire Takes

Episode Date: January 15, 2024

In this episode… 🌏 How often do earthquakes take place in the same location, on the same date, in different years?  🔔 Dingletts, dingletts and more dingletts!  💨 A fundamental buoyancy er...ror.  If you want to look into the data Matt used for his earthquake problem, you can find that here: https://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/hazel/view/hazards/earthquake/event-data. If you want to see the plots Matt mentions, please head on over to ⁠Twitter⁠ or ⁠Patreon⁠.  Here are Bec's podcast recommendations: - Science Vs: https://gimletmedia.com/shows/science-vs - A Podcast of Unnecessary Detail: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/a-podcast-of-unnecessary-detail/id1441973787 - Swindled: https://swindledpodcast.com/ - Decoder Ring: https://slate.com/podcasts/decoder-ring - And of course, her own brand new podcast 'Enemy In Paris': https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/enemy-in-paris/id1720149980 As always, send us your general problems and solutions to the website: www.aproblemsquared.com. If you want more from A Problem Squared, you can also find us on Instagram and Discord.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello and welcome to A Problem Squared, the problem-solving podcast which is a bit like a car in that it is relatively practical, has a couple of airbags, and only a fool would let a drunk person drive it. That fool is Matt Parker, a comedian, airbags, and only a fool would let a drunk person drive it. That fool is Matt Parker, a comedian, a mathematician, and one of your hosts. And I'm your other host, Bec Hill, a comedian and not mathematician, who got home from the agent's party at 3am and is very much regretting agreeing to do a 9am record today. The hilarious thing is I'm in an evening time zone right now. I should be the one having a cheeky beverage, but no.
Starting point is 00:00:50 I mean, I'm not having one right now. I want to make it very clear. I haven't kept this going through the evening. I did get up at seven, which means I have slept for four hours. Yeah, because you're a professional. I mean. Yes. Yeah. I want to say I'm not advocating for drinking in any way, form or fashion.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Kids, it's not cool. No, no, no. Beck is facing her responsibilities maturely and dealing with all her obligations, despite at a party yesterday. I refer to it as borrowing happiness from the future. It's going to be a fun one. Oh, gosh. In this episode.
Starting point is 00:01:31 I've sorted out some earthquake statistics. I'm going to do some quick fire questions. And I admit to a problem I've got with farts. You and me both, buddy. Yeah. got with farts. You and me both, buddy. So, Bec, I know normally you're hosting this episode, so you'd ask me how I'm doing, but I'd like to read you a text message you sent me.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Oh, no. Which I got when I woke up this morning and I looked at the time. I got this at 9.49am, which would have been 1.49 a.m. in London. Yeah, that's not too bad. It's not so bad. You'd actually sent me. There's like a few admin messages. And then, and I'm going to read it normally, but it is in all caps.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Guess who is walking home from their agent's party with half a bag of tortilla chips. They stole from thee. And then there's an attempt to spell the word cupboard. So to answer the two questions raised, number one, Beck, Beck was the person walking home having stolen the tortilla chips. And to answer the second question, it was C- u p v o a four cupboard that's so far away that's not even one typo i can't even be like yeah nah that was a slip of the thumb started strong b and v are next to each other on the keyboard. Sure. And R is where the 4 is. Oh, okay. I don't know how you got to the number keyboard, but you did.
Starting point is 00:03:09 And then by then you gave up. There's no attempt at a D. Just the word ends. I think it was because I was typing in caps, but then I accidentally uncapped it. And that meant when I tried to fix it, I changed to the number pad. That makes sense. But you had a good time? yes i had a lovely time i actually ended up talking about this podcast for the fellow comic and oh excellent how much fun it is so that was nice but i had a very long day so i've started
Starting point is 00:03:36 cold water swimming i thought cold water swimming would be my worst enemy because i have terrible circulation i feel the cold so bad. I get seasonal affective disorder, like all of the things. Yeah. They're all working against you. This is your worst nightmare. And then I'd listened to another podcast. They talked about cold water swimming and how people had said it had helped them with seasonal affective disorder and things like that. And so my friend, Nat Lutzima, who is a very funny writer, director, sometimes comedian, she does cold water swimming and invited me along and I was like, fine, I'll go.
Starting point is 00:04:15 And so I went to the Lido, which for people who aren't from Britain, it's just a pool. It's an outdoor pool. They call them an outdoor pool, a Lido. So there's no heating. the water is six degrees i'm literally i'm in normal bathers or or a swimsuit for non-australians my friend did say don't put your head under because i've got very long hair the water will just hold on to it and it'll be very hard for like my head and ears and stuff to warm up again and so we breaststroke with beanies on which is as it looks as that was my favorite band from the mid-2000s breaststroke with beanies on yeah yeah yeah i love those guys um but the i
Starting point is 00:05:01 what one thing that i didn't realize is I thought there would be more swimming involved. Like I thought you get in, you get used to it, you do some laps. It's so cold that the first time I did it, I managed to do one length. And even then about halfway, I had to stop and walk the rest. It is so exhausting. But the thing that makes me keep going back is they have a sauna there. So we were doing the very Scandi thing of doing a length, Nat usually does more than one, jumping in the sauna for like 15 minutes, going back in for a length, jumping in the sauna for 15 minutes. feeling the seasonal affective disorder is bad i've only done it twice so we'll see if that continues but that's what i was doing yesterday morning then i went for a very very long walk
Starting point is 00:05:50 and i i wrote some script did some yoga and it was a very long day so i am still full on a warning day well as we speak at the time of record, I handed in my book. I don't know if you can tell through the screen the weight that has been lifted off my shoulders. I said to you, you're looking very slick, Matt. Like, there's a glow about you. And I'm not just referring to the actual sunlight that seems to be reflecting off your face. I've got a window open and the sun is beaming through. Yeah, and you're beaming back out.
Starting point is 00:06:27 I am. I can see now. Very happy. I see that a weight has been lifted. Yeah, within the last 48 hours, because it was like half past midnight on local Monday. And my goodness, am I happy to have that book done? I celebrated by shaving all the hair on my head to be exactly
Starting point is 00:06:46 the same length i had the same length on on your head as in like also your beard and your eyebrows yep ah now spoiler yeah so um when i was writing a book i still kind of stopped shaving i'll shave if i have to like film a video where a beard's not appropriate or do a live thing where I need to look clean shaven. But for the most part, I cease to care about a lot of things. Yeah. I stopped showering when I was writing. I see. Exactly. So to celebrate, I shaved off my writing beard and I did my head as well. And when I do this traditionally, I need to be careful because I'm very absent-minded If I'm not paying attention I will occasionally zip into my Sides by accident and I'm like
Starting point is 00:07:28 What a doofus Whereas this time I was like no I'm going to do everything The same it's all short I don't care it's new book free Care free mat Now I had not accounted For the third region of hair on my head Which is my eyebrows
Starting point is 00:07:44 Maybe the eyebrows I do not want To be at the same region of hair on my head which is my eyebrows maybe the eyebrows i do not want to be at the same level of shortness and i caught myself when i took the edge of one eyebrow before i was like oh yeah i've got eyebrows well now i got slightly less eyebrows so now i look you're doing that cool thing for like all all the youth were doing maybe about 15 years ago? Exactly. Well, you know what? I had a moment where I was like, well, my options are I could do all my eyebrows to make them equal. Or I could do the symmetric notch on the other side just to make it look deliberate.
Starting point is 00:08:19 And I've gone with leave it how it is and just try and style it out. No, I mean, I can't tell i want you i want you to lean into the camera and the sun nah nah you can't tell i think it's because i got bushy eyebrows and i've just rendered this bit normal and then the rest is just you know bushy yeah you've done the thing that a lot of women in the 90s or early noughties did where we over plucked except the problem is eventually our eyebrows stopped regrowing i do what you did with your eyebrow but with the back of my head because i do my own undercut and so i have to basically through a series of mirrors and a sense of touch work out if i've hit the line of the undercut at the back.
Starting point is 00:09:06 And then I keep accidentally cutting into my hairline. So my undercut keeps getting higher and higher, like every couple of months. Like eventually I'm just going to have a fringe. Just resets around to the front and you start again. Yeah, yeah, that's right. It's like painting the fourth bridge. Yep. This first problem comes from Bernardo from the Problem Posing page, which is aproblemsquared.com. And Bernardo says, in Mexico, we're scared of September 19th
Starting point is 00:09:41 because there have been quite hard and serious earthquakes in different years. we're scared of September 19th because there have been quite hard and serious earthquakes in different years. The first that is always mentioned was in 1985 with a magnitude of 8.1 on the Richter scale. Since then, every year we honour the ones who died and have a drill. Nevertheless, in 2017, history repeated. An hour after the national drill, there was an earthquake of 7.1. What's even worse is that in 2022, another earthquake hit Mexico, this time with an intensity of 7.7. So that's three earthquakes all happening on the same date. Different years, but same date. Yeah. I mean, that's got to be confusing if you've just finished the national drill to get ready for an earthquake, and then there's an earthquake an hour later.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Yeah, does it make you extra ready for it or does it actually... It's better than it happening before the drill because then you'd be like, oh, well, this is just the drill. I think if there's an earthquake, you'd notice, surely. That's true. You're like, oh, no, the ground is shaking. That's true. You're like, oh, no, the ground is shaking. That's an earthquake. Well, they also say that there have been two recent earthquakes on September the 7th as well, one in 2017 and one in 2021. Oh, my goodness. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:51 They say they know it's all a coincidence, but they find it odd that it's been happening with such frequency. They said, what are the odds that this happens? And how common is it? And has it happened anywhere else? Good problem. I mean, I was drawn to this problem because it falls into the category of things where I'm like, ah, I just have to look up some data. In this case, I get the data for all the earthquakes ever.
Starting point is 00:11:16 And then I analyze the data to see, you know, how they land on different days, if they happen on the same date in close proximity, and then I'll have my answer. So I said about that, and I found that- You did a classic, this is going to be an easy thing to solve, and I'm guessing that it wasn't. Are you foreshadowing? Yeah, yeah. I just thought this would be easy.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Yeah, we should never do that. And the first step was, no, so far, so far past Matt was very happy with how it went because I looked up database of earthquakes, and I found the National Centers for Environmental Information, which are part of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, which is part of the U.S. Department of Commerce, which is part of the USA government, which is part of, I don't know, the world government. So the National Centers for Environmental Information, they have the global significant earthquake database where they have logged every database that we have records for, which goes back to the year 2150 BCE. So that's over 4,000 years. Did they have records that long ago?
Starting point is 00:12:26 Oh, yeah. Like a big earthquake, people write that down. Yeah, but that's really long. It's a very long... Well, 2,000... How many years? 4,000 years ago. We had writing. People can write it down. And they look up the records. Everyone's like, oh my goodness, the earth shook today. It was a lot lot and now within the database not every earthquake has every bit of information some of them do have like a richter scale measurement and some don't because i guess i imagine there's also like proof of it in the rocks and stuff as well like in the earth you
Starting point is 00:12:58 know i did dig through some of the kind of surrounding information about the database and i couldn't find any documentation on their methods for putting in historical earthquakes. So I don't know if they're just working off historical records or if they are taking into account any geological information. I can't tell you their criteria to go. If anyone listening works for the National Center of Atmospheric. For environmental information.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Yeah. If anyone works for them, let us know your sources. And they declare a significant earthquake has to meet one of the following criteria. It has to have either had moderate damage, which they pin at approximately 1 million current US dollars worth of damage or more. Or it could have caused 10 or more deaths, which is a good point. I mean, earthquakes cause significant loss of life sometimes, or it can have created a tsunami. So if an earthquake causes a tsunami that causes other destruction that counts as a significant earthquake, or it can just be above magnitude 7.5, any one of those criteria in it goes and i was like this is it this is easy i'm just
Starting point is 00:14:07 going to download this database and analyze it now the next bit of the story is me complaining about how difficult it was to get this data classic this is going to be easy no it's not because if people record we did a problem ages ago about how much does the the slope they're up the hills and the troughs of a country increase its surface area, and if that's factored into official surface areas. And I spent a long time complaining about how hard it was to get the kind of geospatial data to work that out. And this was a very similar thing, because I found you could download the map data, but
Starting point is 00:14:40 then I had to work out how to convert that into a form that I could then learn to import into Python and I did all that and I realized they hadn't updated the map data since 2017 and I wanted the data to 2023. So I was like, oh, so I went back to the website and then I realized they've got a search function where you can put in what earthquake parameters you
Starting point is 00:15:00 want and I realized if I left them all blank and just hit search it would just return every single earthquake parameters you want. And I realized if I left them all blank and just hit search, it would just return every single earthquake in the database. Yeah. The whole lot. Yeah. But then I couldn't get it out of the table on the website because it's a weird JavaScript embedded table. So all my normal methods of importing a table from a website didn't work. I couldn't even select the data and paste it. I was like, you couldn't download or save the website. I couldn't bring it up in Google Sheets. Nothing was working. And then eventually I realized, I was looking at it, I was like, wait a minute,
Starting point is 00:15:34 why is there an extra icon hidden next to one of the sort drop-down menus at the very top of the embedded table? And I moused over this time. Was that Mozart's ghost? Wait, are you referencing mid-90s Sandra Bullock film, The Net? Yes. Yes, I am. The Net is a classic. I will fight you on this. I love it.
Starting point is 00:15:59 What did the little logo look like to you, Matt? Because the one in The Net is a pie symbol. So I would have thought you would have been excited about that. A pie symbol would have caught my attention a lot sooner. Now that I look at it, like it's tiny. It's very tiny. Thank you. I spent a long time trying to find a way to download the data.
Starting point is 00:16:17 I didn't see that. I spent a long time working out. Like I got to the point of, can I write like a keystroke bit of scraping to take each row at a time? Because you couldn't select more than a bit at once. And then I realized that they're not all the same width. I'm like, how am I going to do that? And then I found the tiny icon. So I downloaded the tab separated values an hour and a half after I'd started this journey.
Starting point is 00:16:45 an hour and a half after I'd started this journey. And then I spent about another hour getting the data into a nice manageable form where I could start to analyze it. And there are 6,408 earthquakes. Not all of them have a date associated with them. So I took out all the earthquakes that we don't know what day of the year they occurred on. And that gave me 5,810 earthquakes. We have a date. So my first kind of question was, are earthquakes happening randomly on different dates? Which they should be. I can't imagine as a lay person, I couldn't come up with a plausible mechanism where like the position in the earth's orbit, the tidal forces orbiting the sun could
Starting point is 00:17:28 change when earthquakes happen in the years i don't think it's significant enough to do that i don't think we would know more about it like they would say it's earthquake season in the same way exactly season and tornado season and stuff so yeah, bingo, yeah. Yeah. Proof by not being in the weather report. So I then set about just counting the number, like for all the 365 days of the year, counting from that database how many there are per day, which was, oh, wow, that would have been reasonably straightforward if it wasn't for leap years because every now and then there'll be an earthquake on the 29th of February.
Starting point is 00:18:09 And I was like, oh, I don't want to have to deal with that. So I went with my classic solution to this sort of problem. Indeed, to many sorts of problems, which was to ignore it. Moreover, to remove it. I just took out all the earthquakes that were on the 29th of January, of which there were three. So they're gone out of my data. Which that's a very like, it'd be interesting to work out whether that would have fallen on the 1st of March and stuff. But I see what you mean.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Yeah. It's like, yeah. I mean, the Earth doesn't care what date it is. So it still would have been the same as all the others. We just only declare that date to occur roughly a quarter as often. We're not quite a quarter anyway. So, I mean, I could have written the code to account for that. I could have scaled it based on how often each date happens.
Starting point is 00:19:01 But if I just got rid of that one, all the other dates are the same. You don't have to. Oh, I didn't look into, because historically, like we've not always had all the months. So I don't know if the very old dates, like back in the negative years, if they used what date
Starting point is 00:19:20 it would have been considered at the time, or if they've converted them all to modern dates, which I assume they have. But a lot of the older ones didn't have dates anyway. We just have, like, years. And this doofus just got rid of that data. And of the remaining 5,807, it's pretty even. The date in history with the fewest earthquakes
Starting point is 00:19:40 was the 27th of April. Only five. Five earthquakes. earthquakes was the 27th of april only five five earthquakes and the date with the most is 18th of april when there were 31 closely followed by 9th of july has had 30 and it looks pretty even just kind of eyeballing it but then i was curious to know what it would look like. Like what would actual random data look like? So I generated the same data set randomly. So basically I took the same number of earthquakes, but gave them random dates and then plotted those and looked at the same distribution.
Starting point is 00:20:18 And so the real data goes from a minimum of five to a maximum of 31. And my first time faking the data went from a minimum of five to a maximum of 32. So pretty much the same. I did it again. The next time I did it was exactly between five and 31. So it's indistinguishable from random data. Interesting. So it's a bit like trying to calculate the chances of someone sharing your birthday. Oh yeah. A hundred percent. Yeah. So,
Starting point is 00:20:54 oh, actually no. Number one, you're completely correct. And when I was working on this, I was thinking what's called the birthday paradox. It's not a paradox. It's just confusing. Is it a paradox because it's not a paradox?'s just confusing is it a paradox because it's not a paradox it's paradoxically called a paradox yeah yeah um but it is exactly the same question it's like if a bunch of people are born what's the chance that two people have the same birthday and you work it out assuming they're randomly distributed now human births are not randomly distributed during the year. There's clumps, whereas earthquakes are.
Starting point is 00:21:33 So this is actually more random data than do two people have the same birthday. Huh. Because when two tectonic plates love each other very much, that happens completely randomly. So yeah, so I convinced myself the dates are random now i had to look at uh there are places in the world that have multiple earthquakes happening at the same time within within a certain distance i mean first of all i ran it and i got like loads of places that had the same date but like some earthquakes were like 3 000 years ago and then some were now i was like wow i mean the way because with these probability questions a lot of it comes down to where you draw your line around what counts as a match and we're only talking about this
Starting point is 00:22:19 because it's in the you know popular psyche in mexico because it happened three times within living memory with like within one generation since the 80s 85 and i was like uh am i casting the net too wide i thought i should try and be realistic and cast it as accurately as possible to to to try and match as close as possible to see because if Because if there's other ones within exactly the same criteria, then we can say, yes, it is a thing that happens a lot, and it's just random clumping of data, which you'd expect in random data, random data clumps. You've got the data of obviously what years they were and stuff.
Starting point is 00:22:57 So you could also, could you graph it to show us whether the dates that they occur on starts to change it would be by start to change let's say there were only two on the was it the 9th of july that had the most oh the most overall 18th of april so it was 31 that have occurred on the 18th of apr since this data was being collected. Way back, yeah. It'd be interesting to know if, let's say, all the way up until 1950 there'd only been two on the 18th of April.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Oh, yeah, yeah. And then like 29 of them happened since 1950. Yeah, you're right. I could plot over time. It'd be like one of those animated bar charts where you see different things overtaking and dropping and pulling ahead, like populations changing over time for countries or something like that. based on how good we are at recording earthquakes. And it also depends on where we have earthquake detection and documentation. And it depends on which past civilizations, their records have survived for us to now read them. Because there are a lot of civilizations through accidents or malice, we don't have their records anymore.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Yeah. I would also say it's not, again, it might be geological, just data as well. But I was just using that as an example. Even if you were to do, take the data from the last 50 years and then see if there's any trends or changes in how often they occur on a specific date. I could say it's indistinguishable from random data. Ah, all right. And I did actually plot the number of earthquakes per decade across the entire data set. And you can see a very steady, it's very low for a very long time. And so I plotted the number of earthquakes per decade, and there's a very low number until about the year 1500, and then they gradually start to pick up. And then I plotted it from 1700 until now, it's an almost linear gradual increase, just
Starting point is 00:25:20 as there are more places that are actively monitoring and logging earthquakes. Actually, it takes until quite recent. I did every year from 1700 until now, and it's not really... And even now, maybe there's still a bunch we're missing. We don't know if there's earthquakes happening at sea that we're not logging. I don't know. happening at sea that we're not logging. I don't know. But we are at a point where as of the late 20th century, even during the 20th century, it's going up. It's probably not until roughly the year 2000, I think we may have comprehensive earthquake detection, but that's
Starting point is 00:25:59 just me eyeballing a plot I made. People who know more about this may be yelling at their favorite podcast app. So what I ended up doing was trying to make it as similar as possible to what happened in Mexico. The earliest one was in 1985. So I thought, you know what, I'll just go from 1980 onwards, which is during my lifetime. I was born in 1980. I thought I'll do my lifetime. Bit of a bias there. I then calculated the distances between all the earthquakes because they're in the database. I found all the ones from the 19th of September that happened in Mexico. I then looked at the distances between them and found the most distant two were 483 kilometers apart. So I thought, you know what, I'll look for groups of earthquakes since 1980, all on the same date, and all within 500 kilometers of each other.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Okay, yeah. there were three earthquakes all on the same date, all within 500 kilometers in Mexico. There's nowhere else that can claim to have had more earthquakes on the same date than that within the same criteria. However, it has happened eight times. As in like, there are eight different regions of the world that have all had three earthquakes on the same date since 1980. And by regions, I mean 500 kilometers across to match the ones. So it's happened. There was a group between Pakistan and China, which 2002, 2006, 2015, all on Christmas. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:27:44 On the 25th of december then you've got again i found the three popped up in mexico so it's good to know that i pulled out what's nice and this is something i always refer to as finding the nugget so my maternal grandfather built a machine, which was like a huge automated kind of centrifuge, spinny thing with water to find literal gold nuggets from a lot of dirt. So the idea was you'd go out to someone with this gold, dig up a bunch of candied dirt, run it through the machine, it would spit out if there was a nugget. And to demonstrate this, he had a gold nugget he'd previously found, and he would put it in the dirt, run it through the machine, and demonstrate that it found it and popped it back out again. How come I don't know about this gold centrifuge man?
Starting point is 00:28:36 Oh, you know, he was a man of many contraptions. Would you believe an ancestor of mine? Yes. How about that? Yeah. would you believe an ancestor of mine yes yeah how about that yeah so when i was at school i did this like extension thing in primary school it's called the primary extension and challenge piak in western australia where you got pulled out of school like once every couple weeks or something or once a term and there was a thing where if you made like a bunch of things you got like some
Starting point is 00:29:02 certificate and he found out about this and he basically was like, all right, clear your schedule. And he was retired at the time. So we just used all his tools and equipment and retirement time to like, right. And we had to plan and machined up all these different things, which I think explains something about where I've ended up in life. But what I actually took away from that is whenever I'm doing this kind of thing, I know I should find the original example in the data. So Bernardo said we had these three things happening on the same date.
Starting point is 00:29:37 So I know if I separately, like ignoring that completely, if I separately get the database for all the earthquakes and run it in, it should spit out one of the examples should be those three. And there they are. They've come out. They're on my list. They're position seven, which is an arbitrary position. I'm counting up the list to go through them all. And so I can see there, there's all three from Mexico. I've then got three, three from Mexico. I've then got three which are all in China. 2002, 2009, 2017. All happened on the 8th of the 8th. So that's the 8th of August.
Starting point is 00:30:12 We've then got three in Japan that happened in 1982, 2005, 2008 on the 23rd of July. And I'm going to go through all of these. There's a few in Iran that all happened on the 22nd of July. We've got a collection in Honduras, which all happened on the 10th of April. The Philippines, three happened in the Philippines, all on the 5th of March. And finally, on the 3rd of January, we have three across Northern India, it appears. Wow, this is like a really depressing lotto.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Yes, yeah. While earthquakes are random on date, they're not random when it comes to region, because they occur where there's more tectonic activity. But it is interesting. There are eight different times when we've had three earthquakes all on the same date, all since 1980, all within 500 kilometers. And in fact, just looking at the 19th of September, yes, there were three earthquakes all on that date, all within 500 kilometers in Mexico. There were also two earthquakes on the same date within 500 kilometers in China. So in China in 1939 and in 1966, they had significant earthquakes on the 19th of September
Starting point is 00:31:36 and the two of them were within 500 K of each other. Wow. So I feel like I can say comprehensively, first of all, it is random. And secondly, it is something that does happen. I mean, this is a seemingly natural amount of clumping of earthquakes. But obviously, as humans, it'd be very hard for us to ignore that because we love spotting those sorts of patterns. And I think what's happened in Mexico is quite clever. in New Mexico is quite clever. Turning it into a recognized day when you prepare for earthquakes, the fact that humans are going to look for these sorts of patterns and think, oh,
Starting point is 00:32:16 is it a conspiracy? Is this where earthquakes being manufactured artificially? No, this is just how random data clumps. It happens all the time. I mean, I love the idea that the government would be capable of creating an earthquake and wouldn't think to try it on different dates. Yeah, someone, ah! When they least expect. Ah, we reset the machine again. Yeah, yeah. So there you are. Yes, it happens, and it's happened
Starting point is 00:32:37 eight times. And we should just say, like, we're just talking about the data here. We're aware that there are massive consequences that happen with these things. We're not trying to trivialize that. Oh my goodness, yes. Yeah. Well, I'm impressed by that.
Starting point is 00:32:50 I think it's up to Bernardo to give us a ding for this one. But I can't see why it couldn't be. I think that you've answered all those questions. So what was my analogy for this episode? A car? So I'm going to give you a beep beep. Up next, and totally unrelated to the fact that Beck is feeling a bit worse for wear, we're going to have a quick fire round where we go through a few problems,
Starting point is 00:33:18 which were probably not enough for a whole dinglet, but we still feel should be answered, or at least commented upon. The first one up from someone, well, they put their name in as Kel, K-E-L-L. They went to the problem posing page at problemsquared.com and said, what podcast should I listen to while I wait for new A Problem Squared? They said they finally caught up. I guess they were working through the back catalogue,
Starting point is 00:33:42 and now they no longer have a podcast to binge while they're doing things like working or playing video games they um already have acknowledged we said no such thing as a fish and they want to know in that case what episode should they start with well obviously one of the episodes that beck and or i have been a guest on beck have you got any suggestions? I mean, you've already answered one of them, but so thank you. If you enjoy this show, I would thoroughly recommend a show called Science Versus,
Starting point is 00:34:14 which, check their sources, far more than Matt and I do. So that's Science Versus, Science VS, that is. Obviously recommend a podcast of Unnecessary Detail. How many series of that? It was my recommendation. That's the only one I had. Because I don't consume that many podcasts,
Starting point is 00:34:35 but I am a fraction of a podcast of Unnecessary Detail. It's a lot more sporadic than this one. This one comes out every two weeks, whereas podcast of Unnecessary Detail appears whenever we can be bothered. So keep an eye out. Well, I'm also going to give a shout out to We Can Be Weirdos, which is Dan Schreiber's solo podcast. Dan Schreiber is one of the hosts on No Such Thing As A Fish. If you're a fan of sort of true crime, but you don't want
Starting point is 00:35:03 murder stuff, I would thoroughly recommend a podcast called swindled which is uh mainly looking at corporate crime if you're a bit of a crime junkie you sort of get your crime fixed but you also feel a little bit better because you're like oh i'm being educated about stuff that we should know about right if you like deep dives uh decoder ring is a really really great podcast they've got some really good episodes they looked at the history of kissing of making out and it turns out that it's way more recent than we thought it's really fascinating they had one about cabbage patch dolls just basically cultural stuff they'll do a massive deep dive into it which is very
Starting point is 00:35:41 interesting and obviously i have to recommend the other podcast that will have several episodes out by the time that you're listening to this it's called enemy in paris it's for anyone who either has watched emily in paris and wants to hear two people tearing it apart or anyone who doesn't want to watch it but is interested in hearing two people give scene-by-scene accounts and tear it apart. So, yeah, check out the Design Spark podcast with Professor Lucy Rogers and Harriet Brain. Sort of deep dives into various tech things. So there are so many great science and math podcasts out there. I'm going to actually recommend that people post about that in Reddit or talk about it in Discord.
Starting point is 00:36:25 That'd be great because I think we should all share the love. Our next mini problem. This one is real mini, but the person seems very keen. So this has come in from, and their name is, why does Beck Hill know Edgar Wright? And their problem is, why does Beck Hill know Edgar Wright? How? I mean, they've added to it slightly there in the actual problem. So Beck, the problem is, how do you know Edgar Wright?
Starting point is 00:36:50 How? How? I'd love to say it's because he's a huge fan of mine, like you get to say with some of your fans, Matt. And look, in a sense, he is sort of basically very early days Twitter. I mean, very early days when I used to do a stick figure cartoon on the internet I did a bunch of scenes from Edgar Wright films and then I posted it on Twitter he retweeted it and then he followed me we do run in similar circles so I've got friends who know him I'm yet to go further than sliding into the DMs occasionally
Starting point is 00:37:26 and bonding with him over a hatred of particular books. That counts. So that's the answer. I'm sorry it's not more. I'd love to make something up. Good answer. I feel like if I make something up on this show. We solve problems properly.
Starting point is 00:37:39 The final one in our rapid fire is from a person who just put in the little kind of snowman emoji. And they want to know what is the best way to make a snowball. Wow. I like to suggest that the snowman emoji means that a snowman sent in this problem. And they are really struggling to create their own genitalia. But I thought. Wow.
Starting point is 00:38:02 I have several answers for this. One is that you throw at an extravagant party Oh, yep, nice Hey, did you get an invite to the snowball? Great, good work Thank you My other answer on how to make a snowball Is 10-15ml of lime juice or lime cordial 50ml of avocado
Starting point is 00:38:23 And 50ml of sparkling lemonade. That's a cocktail joke, I believe. It is. It is a cocktail called a snowball. I like them. A lot of people hate them. If we were in the same room, we'd be like, oh, and we've made snowballs. But that's not the case. I think today of all days,
Starting point is 00:38:40 it's a good thing I'm not having a drink. Hard no. Yeah, how about that? And that was Rapid Fire Problem Solving with Beck. Thanks. Thanks, everyone. I'll put more effort in next time, I promise. And it's any other beep beepness. Just like a car, this AOB is going to be full of gas.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Good work. Toot toot. Speaking of toot toot, farts. Yes, farts. So we heard from Emma, who said, I'm a physics PhD student, unfortunately, writing to deflate one of Matt's solutions to the question of using farts for lifting. Boy, it forces just two gravitational forces in a trench coat. I mean, she's not wrong. It's a great analogy.
Starting point is 00:39:34 So decreasing the gravitational force on you will also proportionately decrease the buoyant force from your fart suit and won't help you float. Gravity shows up once in the gravitational force on you and once in the buoyant force from the farts, so they just cancel. If you want to game the buoyant force, you'll have to change the ratio of densities between the atmospheric gas and the farts. Now, a lot of people wrote in with this, none quite as eloquently as Emma,
Starting point is 00:40:00 but plenty of people pointed this out. For any new listeners, when Emma says fart coat, I was talking about when Emma says fart suit. I was talking about if you could fart enough to lift yourself off the ground. I talked about if you could trap all your farts and become buoyant. And then when I worked out how much you would need to become buoyant, I then said, oh, but you know, if there was less gravity holding you down, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I totally forgot that. Yes, of course, buoyancy is the kind of ratio of densities. And if you got less gravity pulling you down, you got less
Starting point is 00:40:36 gravity pulling the air down. The buoyancy won't change. Yeah. And so Emma and everyone else who wrote in, you are absolutely correct. That was a fundamental misunderstanding of the nature of being buoyant because you're wearing an airtight suit that's capturing all your farts. Thank you. Thanks, everyone. It was a lot. I will also flag up, at least Magnus pointed this out on the problem posing page. I said Beck weighed 294 newtons, which they're saying is not the correct way to convert 60 kilograms into newtons. And so I went back and checked my
Starting point is 00:41:16 spreadsheet from that episode. That was a verbal typo. I have no idea where I got that number from and why I said it. My spreadsheet was doing it correctly. And it says 588.6 newtons, which is, I can say I'm multiplying gravity by the 60 kilograms I put in. So I'd like to apologize to everyone for my verbal typo. My spreadsheet was correct as opposed to my fundamental misunderstanding of how buoyancy works. And we also had so many other business from a patreon supporter yep justin begley said i'm not
Starting point is 00:41:47 complaining because i think i'm definitely getting my money's worth from my subscription but i feel matt's random picker algorithm may be a touched bias what would the chances of having my name read out three times be is there some sort of conspiracy going on i download either directly before or occasionally during the record i download all the patreon supporters of a problem squared from patreon.com slash a problem squared who are active patreon supporters i put them in a spreadsheet i assign them all a random number using excel's built-in rand function and then i pick the three Patreon supporters who were assigned the biggest random number. And we read them out.
Starting point is 00:42:27 So it's as random as random can be using the pseudo random number generator built into Excel. Or, or, maybe people are slipping me a little something on the side to bump up their rankings in the random number generator. So, you know. That's not fair. Why am I getting slipped anything? to bump up their rankings in the random number generator. That's not fair. Why aren't I getting slipped anything? You know, whoever's closest to the random number tap gets the grease. That's the phrase, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, that's what they say.
Starting point is 00:43:01 No, it's 100% legit, everybody. I don't want to have to go to a system where we have to write people's names on, like, lottery balls and put them in a mixing tombola thing. Because then if someone stops supporting us on Patreon, we'll have to find them and fish them out. We'll have to find the ball and take it out. No, no. We're not doing that. we're not doing that but speaking of which we have our three assigned random generated number patreon supporters who we're going to thank on this episode and we'll do our best to mispronounce every single one of them so we would like to thank well i okay they put their name in as captain untouchable but i feel like we have to mispronounce that. So I'm going to go with Captain Untouchable.
Starting point is 00:43:52 Untouchedble. That's the one. Bowels, golds, TN. Anton Weissi. Art. Er. Ant. Anto. New York City.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Arter. Oh, yeah. Look at that. An. An. To. New York City. Art.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Er. Er. And if you would like us to completely demolish your names, you can support us on Patreon. Maybe up to three times. You get more than that. We have a bonus podcast. A bonus podcast.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Oh, gosh. It's happening now, guys. It's happening. This is the quality of the bonus podcast, too, by the way. I would argue it's better. Yeah, it comes out once a month it's called i'm a wizard and that is just for our patreon supporters as a way of thanking you for making this possible because without it we can't do the show and then everyone else who can't pay or
Starting point is 00:44:56 indeed understands that they shouldn't pay for this can also listen to it. People who are good with their money. I also want to thank my co-host, Matt Parker, who has been incredibly patient with me today. And I would also like to thank our wonderful producer, Lauren Armstrong Carter, who is, let's see, if Matt's letting me drive this one, then Lauren is the police car chasing us down the road, trying to get us to pull over and do as little damage as possible.
Starting point is 00:45:36 She's the voice in the sat-nav. Oh, she's like Kit. Oh, she's like Kit. Yeah. An even more topical reference than The Net. You've gone for Knight Rider. Yes, because I am nothing if not consistent with my zeitgeist. Beck Finger on the Pulse Hill, we call her.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Please don't put the word finger in my name. Too late. too late uh beck i'm afraid before you're allowed to go you have to guess how many dice are in the jar. To remind you, last time you guessed 420. Very funny. I hilariously said higher. You did. We all had a good laugh. We did, yeah. So I now know it's between 420 and 486. So I'm going to again try and sort of go down the halfway point. Ah, efficient. Yep, which I think would make it 453. Higher.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Ooh. Okay. You've just halved your options though. Yeah, man. I'm in this for the win.

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