All Fantasy Everything - 2022 Pop Culture (w/ Alison Herman, David Gborie, Sean Jordan)

Episode Date: January 12, 2023

2022 was BUCK! We had to wait until the year was actually over before we did our annual recap. Well the year is over so here ya go! It's the annual All Fantasy Everything Pop Culture draft! ...   Episode Guest: Alison Herman @aherman2006 IG: @aherman2006   Support the show! Join the All Fantasy Everything Patreon for ad-free episodes, mailbags, and video pre-rolls. Check it all out at www.patreon.com/AllFantasy.   Follow the Good Vibes Gang on social media: Ian Karmel @IanKarmel IG: @IanKarmel Sean Jordan @SeanSJordan IG: @SeancougarmelonJordan David Gborie IG: @Coolguyjokes87 Mars Mel @MarsMel IG: @Mars.Mel Show Email: allfantasypodcast@gmail.com  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. This is All Fantasy Everything, the podcast where we fantasy draft anything and everything from the world of pop culture. On today's episode, you wanted it, you got it. It's our annual pop culture recap. This year, we are drafting the pop culture of 2022 because that was the year we just went through.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Joining us for our seventh year in a row the pop culture of 2022 because that was the year we just went through. Joining us for our seventh year in a row is pop culture writer Alison Herman. I'm your host, Ian Carmel, and joining me as always are my friends and comedians, Sean Jordan and David Borey. Cue the music. Welcome to another brand new episode of All Fantasy Everything, the podcast that is enjoying a crisp, clear day in Los Angeles, which is a little outside
Starting point is 00:01:08 the norm this week. It's been raining, right? Yeah. Heavy rains. Welcome to the club, you spoiled little brats. Heavy rain. You can't welcome me to a club that includes rain. I founded that club, bro.
Starting point is 00:01:19 I'm from Oregon. Whenever people are like, I love the rain, I'm like, you're wrong. You're wrong in the thing that you love. I like gloom. I don't like the rain. I like the gloomy weather. I don't mind it. I like it's movie watching weather, you know, drinking inside weather. Did you say watching? He did say
Starting point is 00:01:35 watching. I'm trying out some new stuff, man. It's a new year. I'm in your camp. Anything that lowers the contrast between my TV screen and the outside world is really optimal for my particular set of interests ozark watching weather yeah dude breaking bad i don't want to feel like a loser yeah i can actually see what's happening during that one scene in house of the dragon you know oh i can't wait to discuss that more we will i'm sure you said you were uh on
Starting point is 00:02:00 board with the gloomy weather thing are you on board with Sean saying warching instead of watching? You know, I respect the different pronunciations and dialects in this great nation, so I give it a pass. You know, it is a great nation, bringing it up on January 6th, the year of our Lord, 2023. It is a great nation, and I just,
Starting point is 00:02:20 you know, I'm here and definitely here in Portland, Oregon, but I'm ready to do my part this January 6th. Is today a holiday? It will be. If we ever achieve our goal, it will be. When we achieve our goal. I'm sure I'm the only person in this podcast who cares about this, but it is not only the anniversary of a great day in our country's history.
Starting point is 00:02:38 It is also another great day in our country's history. Jennifer Shaw's sentencing day of the real housewives of salt lake city fame she defrauded a bunch of old people it's kind of not that uh cool or chic but you know it's sexy she got some good prison time so we love the carceral state over here prison time let the cameras follow her into jail i don't want to see that. I mean, I am a terrible person because my first response to the news was like, I guess she won't be at the season three reunion, but you know, that's what really
Starting point is 00:03:12 matters. I bet she figures out a way. Maybe she needs furlough. I feel like reality television producers will figure out a way for her presence to be felt. I think if anyone could do it. The warden's a Bravo fan. They're going to smuggle an iPhone in. The vilest human beings on earth
Starting point is 00:03:27 will absolutely figure out a way to get her on. Unless they want to hire me starting April 27th when I am a free agent. I just want to circle back around. Warchin? I wouldn't keep that up. It kind of felt natural to me. I kind of felt like you liked it
Starting point is 00:03:45 i caught it but it didn't seem crazy all right i watched a movie last night where someone called it tuner salad so i also think i'm in like a forgiving mood yeah yeah yeah don't need to be there you're under the influence of a tuner salad i watched a whole youtube clip of just dudes from memphis saying music so how do they say it? It's like Merzik. I don't know. It's you got to look at it. Just look up Memphis dudes saying music.
Starting point is 00:04:11 It's they say like Merzik. Stop saying pecs, dude. Or you just was that Elvis? No. Were you just watching Elvis? It was like 12 rappers, but they were all saying Merzik. It's really difficult to even relate. Do you ever look up YouTube videos of hard dudes from Baltimore just talking?
Starting point is 00:04:33 Yeah. Weirdly enough, yeah. Also, they love wearing Under Armour. That's a weird town. They love Under Armour and their accent is so funny. It's just so funny i can't it's it's it's just so funny in atlantic they're doing weird stuff over there like everyone freaked out about the mayor of east town accent but like baltimore did it first like for sure definitely baltimore baltimore all i can do is hoogie that's the only thing i can say in that
Starting point is 00:05:01 is a hoogie hoogie hoogie hey stabogie yeah for sure when he does those when he does those ball more ball more ravens recaps more evens joe quazal has got a really good just a like a judge sentencing somebody from pitts like a judge from pittsburgh sentencing somebody i think is what it is oh yeah that's funny yeah that's all in good fun i'll tell you another funny dude is sean jordan sean s jordan on twitter sean cougar mill jordan on instagram i'm right here man i'm right here i got my ring light on yeah you got a ring light on thinking about getting a haircut today that's what's going on in my world i'm juicing man yeah this glows natural dude i just want everyone to tell the left side hold on uh-oh oh what's that over there oh wow look at him
Starting point is 00:05:46 ivory ivory skin this guy now if you wanted to see this ivory skin in person go to smart collective skate shop wow january 14th it'll be i'm doing a stand-up show at a skate shop my buddy joel's shop and uh taylor is on the show taylor clark is another skateboarder we're like the only skateboarding comedians come watch the show There's only like 20 more tickets left. And also David Borey is going to be here. What about Chris Fairbanks? Yeah, Fairbanks is one. What about Donovan Strain? What about Whitmer Thomas? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Donovan, Whitmer, Andy Haynes I've seen do a kickflip. River Butcher, I believe. River, yeah. Push a board around. Yeah. Rest in Peace Richard Bain I've seen seen doing ollie with a backpack on in the middle of uh in the middle of bridgetown comedy festival allison's cat uh in the background of the zoom is a skateboarding comedian yeah we've really um we've somehow
Starting point is 00:06:35 managed to time our recordings exactly for my cat's mid-morning zoomies on set like three years in a row so that's good on us that's why we did it that's why we didn't record on wednesday the zoomies we couldn't make the we couldn't make the zoomies fit zoomies on zoom zoomies on zoom oh that's the next podcast laura's parents call it frooping when a cat's got the zoomies they call it frooping frooping frooping i don't like that that sounds like something people in costumes call sex yeah uh-huh sounds like something you're not supposed to do in public yeah letting you into my world that's like an urban dictionary search you don't want yeah like oh frooping or like you accidentally stumble upon it on porn hub fruit like frooping and it just ruins it ruins sex for you the kids call it frooping these days it's called frooping yeah and the nation's teenagers
Starting point is 00:07:20 something like that on like a fox news you know but like a local yeah yeah yeah the teams are doing yeah yeah oh i'm gonna be in sioux falls south dakota with kyle canada matt bronger at the orpheum theater on february 21st that'll be that'll be a treat i'm going um i hope bronger knows i'm coming he doesn't listen uh i'm gonna be in duluth and fargo with him too that in the 22nd 23rd anyway sioux, Sioux Falls, South Dakota, Orpheum Theater, February 21st. Well, there you go. David Vorey is here.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Coolguyjokes87 on Instagram. Not on Twitter anymore, but he is appearing live at the following places. January 26th, I'm going to be in Portland for the newly titled High Note Comedy. Those are going to be gone by the time this comes out.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Oh, okay. Then January 27th, I'm going to be in Great Falls, Montana at the name of a club that I do not remember. Shit. Sorry. I bet there's not more than one in Great Falls. I do. Well, I think it's a music i think it's a music venue a merzic venue yeah go do some do some kermit yeah i'm gonna do some kermit oh this is what it is uh the new but the newberry in great falls montana oh yeah you and
Starting point is 00:08:40 katherine blanford yeah i mean katherine blanford. And then March 23rd through 26th, I'm going to be at Rooster Teeth Feathers, Sunnyvale, California, Bay Area. I'm coming back home. Somehow not in the city, though. March 31st through April 1st, Dallas Comedy Club, going back to Dallas. And April 8th, I'm going to be at
Starting point is 00:09:03 Chillicothe Charlie's in Anchorage, Alaska. Ooh. I'm trying to come. Yeah, Sean's trying to get up there for that festival too. Is it in Anchorage? It is in Anchorage. And that's, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:19 the foreseeable future. Beautiful. David, if you're not on Twitter, are you on post-Mastodon, Hive, any competing sites that have sprung up in the last three months? I was going to get a parlor, but... Mastodon? No. You're a true social. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:36 No, I'm on nothing. Instagram takes up too much of my time as is. Mastodon? Oh, yeah. Mastodon is what people have decided they're trying instead of Twitter. My favorite thing about it is that the posts are not called tweets, they're called toots.
Starting point is 00:09:52 That's cool. You can find me on Mastodon in about, well, when you're hearing this right now, but about two hours from now I'll be on Mastodon for sure. It's the most confusing thing in the world. I don't care. I wish you luck. It sounds amazing. Mastodon? I hope you blow up on Mastodon the world. I don't care. I wish you luck. It sounds amazing. Mastodon?
Starting point is 00:10:08 I hope you blow up on Mastodon, dude. That would be crazy. Mercedern, dude. I got 8 million followers on Mercedern. I'm huge on Mastodon. You just tweet things like Crick and Warsh. Yeah, Perch on Mercedern. I typed in Mastodon. I don't like it, and it looks too much like Twitter.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Is it the hardcore band? Oh, I want the hardcore band to come up. Mastodon. I don't like it, and it looks too much like Twitter. Is it the hardcore band? Oh, I want the hardcore band to come up. Mastodon. Beautiful. Allison Herman is here. You. Hello. Aherman2006 on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Aherman2006 on Instagram. Aherman2006, seven years in a row on All Fantasy Everything Drafting Pop Culture. Truly wild. Thank you. Thank you, as always, for having me of course most of a decade yeah this wasn't this was like not that hard of a list for me but compared to other years there was a lot going on everybody everybody got back out in the world and they were nuts so yeah there's a lot going on what uh what were some of your fate wait like I mean, obviously you're not doing any tour dates. What are some things that you've written recently that you'd like to point people towards
Starting point is 00:11:10 or any of your work in general? Any great food you've eaten? Oh, I did make some great red braised pork belly last night. Shout out to the Walks of Life cookbook. I think that's a major accomplishment of mine. Let's see. I did, with my co-author, Miles miles surrey i did collect the best tv of 2022 so anything that we don't list there uh or we don't list today you can find there or i just
Starting point is 00:11:34 hate it and you if you liked it um that's obviously the subtext uh and let's see what else have i written recently that I enjoyed? I am now blanking on my own work, which is not great, but I am. Been there. On Twitter, Instagram, and Mastodon, as we just mentioned. That's my fave. In case Twitter goes offline in the next week, which seems like it may or may not happen. Would it just happen already?
Starting point is 00:12:04 That'd be so rad if it did. I think we're going to talk about it, I'm sure. It could happen at any moment. I think we'll bring it up. Let's table that. My name is Ian Carmel, at Ian Carmel on Twitter, at Ian Carmel on Instagram, at Ian Carmel on Jewish
Starting point is 00:12:19 Mastodon, which is just a Mastodon, the big furry elephant with the little with little braids on the side it's cute it's cute everybody likes it uh i actually have a date i have a date to promote what for god's sake i want to go because uh my schedule is opening up sometime after i get back from italy in june i will be in denver colorado oh at comedy works denver downtown in Denver, Colorado at Comedy Works Denver downtown Thursday, June 22nd
Starting point is 00:12:49 Friday, June 23rd and Saturday, June 24th tickets available now they just went up, so come see me in Denver hell yeah look at this where are you going in Italy? that's important
Starting point is 00:13:03 so I'm doing my honeymoon finally we're going to so i'm doing my honeymoon finally we're going to venice florence rome tuscany and positano all throughout all throughout man oh where phil's from that'd be fucking great if they had a Positano Phil. Positano Phil. Same exact situation, though. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:30 By drinking an Aperol Spritz and wearing like a flowy linen shirt. You're going to be like 70% pasta by weight when you get back. It's going to be great. I can't wait. I've been preparing for that outcome over the last month anyway. I'm like, I have to cut weight for Italy. Like it's a big wrestling tournament. That's so rad. It's it's gonna be pasta'd out i have to give myself like a fucking i have to i'm giving myself a 15 pound cushion that i'm trying to get to by may just dude pasta in italy made me
Starting point is 00:13:56 feel like i had never had pasta before this is what i hear i i'm kind of shook pasta in hawaii made me sad yeah maybe this is me i'm going to japan in march and i'm like i need to like i cannot consume any ramen between now and march because i need to like purify my ramen palette definitely sam is over there right now and he's going hammer him and his wife are just living it i've only had the ramen out of the packs i've never had any ramen ramen restaurant i've never even had it prepared other than from the packs of the little little cheap ramen you and i never went to ramen on york i've never been with either one of you oh i think now you have to maintain this until like if you ever make it to japan like that has to be the first bowl of non instant ramen you have in your life.
Starting point is 00:14:47 That would be amazing. Yeah. He's like, what the fuck is going on? Or I'll just bring my own ramen with me to Japan and save a couple bucks. You know what I mean? Just refuse to eat anything in Japan except instant ramen. That would be amazing if you brought a briefcase, an attache case full of. Adam used to eat it hard.
Starting point is 00:15:07 He would eat it with a boner. No, he'd sprinkle the stuff on it and then just eat it without cooking it. I've seen that. I've seen that. Crazy TV. I think I've seen people consume ramen in most of the ways. The packets of ramen, I've seen them... It's gone in every single way.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Have they stored it in the seasoning? I feel like that's the final frontier. most of the ways that the packets of ramen, I've seen them. It's gone in every single way. A lot of different ways. Have they stored in the seasoning? I feel like that's the final frontier. Oh no, that's the one thing. But when I was a kid, this is so gross. When I was a kid,
Starting point is 00:15:32 we used to take, ah, this is so nasty. We would shoot one 51 and chase it with ramen juice. Oh, like the, like a pickleback, but like,
Starting point is 00:15:43 yeah, but chicken ramen juice that sounds kind of alright no? kind of works for me like a pickleback like a pickleback definitely it's gross that we figured it out
Starting point is 00:15:59 and I don't even remember that is gross I don't remember which was the one of us who was like hey this works that feels like any port in a storm situation where you're like all we have is water or this ramen yeah and we had a bottle of 151 it's like there's like really convoluted foods to make where you're like i'll do it now but like how did anyone figure out that this made something edible like it's not the thing it's like the process of discovery war is bad whatever whatever the genesis was it was not we were up to no good for sure
Starting point is 00:16:31 but it was a season we are gathered here today not only to talk about chasing 151 with ramen juice but also to fantasy draft our the best our favorite whatever the rubric is. We're just drafting the pop culture from the year 2022. We're drafting on January 6th out of respect to all of the patriots out there. And to have let the entire year of 2022 play out, don't want to leave out something that may have happened on December 30th or even December 29th, even December 31st. I'm not even being vague around anything but stuff might have happened that people want to take uh now the way we determine the order
Starting point is 00:17:10 of this draft is through a rollicking game of rock paper scissors and it's played between the three of you and we throw on shoot or we throw it we throw on zero sean stop it stop it yeah that happened off mike that happened off podcast feels good to be mean huh but it feels good to be mean uh we throw and shoot here we go rock paper scissors shoot allison wins with a scissors a natural it scissors over two paper allison has the winner of rock paper scissors it is incumbent upon you to determine the order of today's draft but before you do that i will remind you it is a serpentine draft and what is that that's a great question this one's this one's okay so if you i bet it's they're all good by the way you're wonderful and i love you you've done 4 000 of them cut yourself a break
Starting point is 00:17:58 you're amazing you're prolific and you're fantastic you know not for nothing but i got some bad news about a friend today this is not the draft this for nothing, but I got some bad news about a friend today. This is not the draft. This is just because you guys said that. Bad news about a kid I grew up with in Sioux Falls. And it just, I'm so happy and appreciative that I get to do this. I know this is a weird term,
Starting point is 00:18:15 but it just, I don't know, felt right. But I just love you guys. I love this. I love that we get to do it. I love the people listen. Anyway, so Serpentine Draft, to get back to it, David, it's like if you lose your keys and you're looking for them in your house
Starting point is 00:18:30 and you go room by room. So you start, for me, for example, I'd start in our spare room. I'd look around the spare room and then I'd go. That's where you are now. Yeah, that's where I am now. And then I'd go to the kitchen. I'd look in the kitchen.
Starting point is 00:18:41 I'd go to the living room. I'd look in the living room. And then I'd go to Max's room, look in Max's room. Then I'd look in our room. I'd be like, huh, they're not anywhere. But before I kind of re-look through the whole house, I'd give our room another look. So I'd look around in our room a little bit. Then I'd go back to Max's room, then the living room, then the kitchen, then the office. Still didn't find them. And I would look in the office again, just kind of rinse, repeat, going through the house back and forth until eventually you find them.
Starting point is 00:19:05 And then, you know, you drive to the bagel shop and get that jalapeno bagel that you heard about that you're going to go get after the podcast. Convoluted yet thorough explanation. Yeah. There have been worse ones. I'll tell you that. And you pick fourth in the first round. You pick first in the second round. That's how it works.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Now, Allison, with that in mind, what will the order of today's fantasy draft be? Well, first of all, Sean, I'm sorry for the news about your friend. Sorry to bring it up. That was weird. I just felt it's my bad thinking about it. Well, maybe it will cushion the fact that you're going to be going last in the first round. Because in my current Zoom screen, the clockwise order is me, Ian, David, and Sean. So I feel like that will keep things nice and intuitive for me personally.
Starting point is 00:19:44 So, Sean, you're going to be last in the first round but then first in the next one this is me going second for the second week in a row and I feel a little more accustomed to it but still weird that's what you get for booking tour dates dude you go second
Starting point is 00:20:00 now because I'm finally hitting the road amidst what is likely a television writer strike Dude, you go second now. Now I go second because I'm finally hitting the road? Amidst what is likely a television writer strike? Damn. And the end of my decade-long job? All right. All right, fine.
Starting point is 00:20:13 I'll go second. I'll pick second and I'll fucking win. And I'll fucking win. How do you like that? That's fine. Whatever. Allison, you have the first pick and we'll get to it right after this short break. This episode of All Fantasy Everything is brought to you by Schedule 35.
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Starting point is 00:22:23 different one but it was yeah that was the splendid table talking about re-releasing an episode from three years ago about soup that was us i loved it when you guys interviewed courtney love the other day that was yeah that was some good podcasting that was big for all of us we got to the bottom of it with courtley courtney love she actually talked about the brad pitt uh thing with us first yeah yeah yeah courtney lerv dude broke it down with us the alaria baldwin's new podcast the witch's coven that's us that's us we thought that was funny yeah we're the nine club so it's pretty nine club too and the 10 club dude yeah man yeah not the 12th yeah my mama me. Do you guys know how to say cucumber in Spanish or whatever, whatever it was she asked about?
Starting point is 00:23:06 How you say it's Pepino. It's Pepino. Yeah. It's my favorite Mexican spot in Portland, Pepino. So that's how I know that. Anyway, they didn't know.
Starting point is 00:23:15 Let's stop saying places that don't advertise on here. Pepino. If they want to get talked about on all fantasy, everything can slide a fucking free nacho over, you know, every now and then. How much is one nacho? I, that's a Jack black conversation, isn't it? a fucking free nacho over you know every now and then how much is one nacho i that's a jack black conversation isn't it what one nacho yeah that's a tenacious d bit i think actually we're taking all the tenacious d bits yeah if you get one if they
Starting point is 00:23:36 all stick together it's one nacho or it's in shallow hell well for jack black they're free because nacho libre no it isn't it isn't. It's in Orange County. What movie is that? Well, whatever. Whatever. I digress. Do you digress? What's the movie where he has one nacho? You didn't digress. I don't know. Where he goes, if it's all stuck together,
Starting point is 00:23:57 it's one nacho. I don't know. Hit us up in the comments. Like and smash, bro. Like and smash. Smash like and let us know which movie it is where he has one nacho we'll be right back and we're back allison herman you have the first pick in the all fantasy everything pop culture recap of 2022 draft what will that first pick be all right over a half an hour into this episode this recording i hope it was worth the wait. I am a native of one San Diego, California.
Starting point is 00:24:28 I do not frequently rep that city. Perhaps I should more often. Someone on Twitter recently called it the least iconic city in America. Oh, come on. Sue Falls is out there. Fuck. Which may no longer be true
Starting point is 00:24:43 because a certain movie this year informed me that apparently San Diego is Fighter Town USA. Obviously. So I'm going for Top Gun Maverick and I feel like to justify this I need to explain that I recently went to a town north of San Diego called Oceanside, setting of
Starting point is 00:25:05 the first season of American Vandal. Amazing show. Great show. Oceanside, for those who are not familiar, has like a longstanding reputation as like a kind of shady, like rundown beach town. And they've decided to not be that anymore. They've redeveloped the waterfront. There's fancy restaurants there. It's so weird. But the centerpiece of the new Oceanside, California, is what they are calling the Top Gun House, which is a refurbished pie shop that is inside the Kelly McGillis house from the first Top Gun.
Starting point is 00:25:40 There's a huge line for the pie at all times. And there is a motorcycle that is Maverick's motorcycle out front for all your Instagram photo op needs. And I've given Sean the time he needs to change into a Top Gun Maverick helmet and aviator glasses. Can you take a shower at this pie restaurant before you have your pie? Can you show up, take a shower? I'm kind of hungry. Is it cool if I take a shower? before you have your pie.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Can you show up, take a shower, and then... I'm kind of hungry. Is it cool if I take a shower? I mean, you could try. I don't know if the security guard who was minding the line outside who told me that the pie was not actually very good would be chill with that. But, you know, it's a testament to the legacy, you know?
Starting point is 00:26:22 That is fantastic. That movie was so... How you feel how do you feel about the movie i enjoyed the movie i as someone who is definitely not in like the target demographic for like a military dad situation um you know i really enjoyed the homoerotic beach football scene uh that was great to me also the like worst sex scene of all time between tom cruise and jennifer connelly but like i just it felt really good to have a movie like be as big as that movie was and still is you know we needed it yeah it felt amazing it going seeing it in theaters like in an imax situation fucking god it ruled it like it it could have been bad and i still would have loved it and it
Starting point is 00:27:13 was so good i think it was better than the first one way better i think that it was more for me than the first one yeah for sure does that make i feel like they did that they tried to go in and fix all the stuff that was wrong with the first one and and i think they did on the second one it was fantastic well they get balanced out tom cruise with all these younger characters although my favorite theory of the movie um i should credit allison wilmore on vulture wrote a really great piece where she's like she makes the argument that you know in the first scene of the movie where he's in the plane that he pushes too far past the speed of sound and explodes she's like i think he dies i think he dies and the rest of the movie is just like a dying fever
Starting point is 00:27:57 dream by tom cruise's maverick and i refuse to believe that that's what that movie is i love that theory. Yeah. Because he would, I've heard about this, like, he would have, if he crashed at that speed, he would have, like, evaporated no matter what. Like, when, like, when he tried to eject or something like that, right? Listen, we're going to put science in here, but, like, there's also, come on, that's not the rules we're playing by. I love that that entire scene is designed to get you to root for the U.S. government just wasting a shit ton of money on stuff it does not need as part of the military industrial complex. And you're like, yeah, they should spend more money. Do it.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Stick it to that guy trying to preserve some of the budget. I went to that movie with a retired pilot so it was very interesting watching him get my my father-in-law is a retired uh air force pilot and just watching how stoked he was got me even more excited to be at the movie it was it was such a fun such a fun movie going experience going to that thing what what was his take on it he loved it i mean he he kept so you this is specific but when there's a part where they go into they call it g lock where they like pass out over there right before that happened he looked at me and he goes he's gonna go into he goes he's gonna go into g lock and i was like what the fuck is g lock and
Starting point is 00:29:21 then in the in the movie they go he's going into G-Lock. I'm like, no shit. And so the part where they're coming out, spoilers or whatever if you haven't seen it, but the part where they're coming out after they shoot the, or when they're going in to shoot the thing at the end, the main target, they have to invert themselves. And he told me that before they explained it, why they had to do it.
Starting point is 00:29:43 And then they do it in the movie. I was like, cheese and rice. I mean mean it must be somewhat accurate because he's sitting there telling me the shit before they do it i'm sure he's got yeah i'm sure it's like incredibly accurate i bet he's got people there like with him on set and tom cruise seems like the dude who'd want it to be accurate well i mean they made them all like do it. I mean, not like exactly what they do. Apparently, I just found out the only actor in the plane, the only actor who did not vomit when they were doing all the flying stunts was the younger woman whose name I cannot remember. But yeah, she was the only one who didn't puke.
Starting point is 00:30:22 That's gangster. Yeah, I'd hold it over that dude with the small mouth's head all day that he threw up and I didn't. I'd be like, fuck you, Glenn Powell. I'd tuck it away. He's got a small mouth. He's perfect looking. I'm not saying that, but it's just like he does have a small mouth.
Starting point is 00:30:37 He looks like Johnny Bravo. Yes. You know, everyone in that movie just looks perfect. That's a shocking thing. Where you're just like, man, they just all... They just look perfect in every way. It's nuts. I also want to shout out my former co-worker, Michael Bauman,
Starting point is 00:30:54 wrote an insanely exhaustive breakdown of what the unnamed enemy country in Top Gun Maverick has to be. Oh, yeah. That I won't necessarily spoil, but he makes a compelling case. Oh, God, I want to know about that. I mean, I can't spoil it. Anyone who doesn't want to know what the unnamed enemy country
Starting point is 00:31:16 in Top Gun Maverick is, skip ahead 30 seconds. Can you type it in the chat? Alright, we're going to do a dramatic reveal. Oh, I'm very excited. Alright. Okay. Why can't we say it on the podcast? All right, we're going to do a dramatic reveal. Oh, I'm very excited. Oh, all right. Okay. Why can't we say it on the podcast?
Starting point is 00:31:29 I don't know. I didn't want to spoil it, but we can. I think we... All right, so it's Iran. Yeah. It was based on the military technology they use in the movie, slash the terrain, slash the flight time from specific military bases. He like triangulated it all.
Starting point is 00:31:48 Wow. But again, it rules so hard that they don't even say what it is. It's like, it does not matter. We're just here to make stupid stunts. They never said in the first one either. Like the first one, I always thought it was supposed to be Russia, but I guess it was supposed to be China in the first one. Really?
Starting point is 00:32:08 They never actually said it. I watched a little thing on it because i didn't know that i just always thought they said it was russia but they never do and then i guess i assumed it was kind of some kind of soviet cold war situation too i never thought it was china i assume the enemy in any american movie made between 1950 and 1995 is Russia. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And now again. But that's what's great about these movies is it lets you put your least favorite country in that position. If you wanted to be Canada, that's your right. It's Belize for me.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Don't ask why. I already said Scotland. They can get it. Excellent first pick. I mean, the most triumphant. Yeah, totally. We're all on board there. All right, shit.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Boy, what a letdown this pick is going to be. I don't know. I'm telling a ton of stuff, man. Yeah. know a ton of stuff yeah i'm going to take not the movie but everything that happened around don't worry darling yeah yeah leading up to it the release every just the whole fucking shit show harry styles quote-unquote spitting on chris pine he didn't spit on chris pine florence pew not getting along with olivia wilde florence pew showing up at uh in con just in that outfit with the fucking aparol spritz just killing it everything but the movie which i've never watched i hear it's just like kind of
Starting point is 00:33:37 a letdown it was i was bummed it looked good more that's what i say what was the deal with the spitting he just like something was in his mouth or something right he didn't walk up and spit on him he just like no it's like he leaned over and then chris pine kind of looked where his head was angled and like everyone kind of zappered or filmed that out into whatever they wanted which was a crazy time that i know i remember i remember paying so much attention being like what am i doing this is i don't know but it's it's interesting and fun it was there's no way the movie could have lived up to that much drama it could have been like fucking citizen kane and
Starting point is 00:34:18 star wars and it wouldn't have it wouldn't have been like able to do it but shout out to nick kroll and like gucci on fucking red carpets and shit that's amazing yeah everything around it was just like fantastic cape berlin everyone who was just like i'm just sitting here collecting my check and all of this is happening around me and i'm just not going to address it all those people deserve nobel prizes just amazing just amazing beautiful people in amazing, which with a lot of weird drama, Olivia Wilde and the Jason Sudeikis shit just bubbling over her making the salad dressing from Heartburn. Just every just everything.
Starting point is 00:34:55 It had so many different layers. OK, I'm going to air my take about that. Everyone just assumed that the Heartburn salad dressing was the salad dressing. And I thought it was her trying to be cute and be like, I'm going to post the salad dressing from the novel about divorce, because all of this is my divorce drama. And everyone took it very literally. And I was like, I don't think that's what she meant. Do you think she was that she had like a better salad dressing, like actually up her sleeve than the Hartford one? Yeah, I don't think she's going to share her real salad dressing with us peons. It probably involves
Starting point is 00:35:26 like three ingredients from Erewhon that each cost more than $50 a piece. There's preserved lemon and black garlic in it for sure. Like whatever it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wanna know though. I would subscribe to her Patreon where she just drops salad dressing recipes. Are you guys familiar?
Starting point is 00:35:42 Since I'm just gonna spoil like all the movies we talk about since we've ripped it off. Are you guys familiar since i'm just gonna i'm just gonna spoil like all the movies we talk about since we have ripped it off are you guys familiar with like what the the thing that's going on in don't worry darling is no no i did the twist i do know what it is so like in the beginning like when she was doing the press tour she's like yeah chris pine's character is uh inspired by jordan peterson and it turns out she meant that very literally in that in the real world, he has like a podcast and Harry Styles in the real world is like de-Yossified to look like David Foster Wallace.
Starting point is 00:36:12 It's insane. It's one of the craziest hair and makeup jobs I've ever seen. And the reveal is that they're all in a simulation and not in the 1950s because all these like MRA red pill dudes have like trapped their wives. Also, like, there are so many questions that the ending brings up.
Starting point is 00:36:28 It was all plot holes. It was all plot holes. Yeah. Like, that's the problem with watching it where you're like, okay, so it's now. And these women have been kidnapped? Right. It's like, who's paying for this did anyone have any follow up questions about like where their daughters or
Starting point is 00:36:50 sisters or friends were nobody wondered where she was yeah she just quit her job as a surgeon and everyone was like cool see you later everything I heard was that it would have been the worst Black Mirror episode of a season
Starting point is 00:37:06 is like essentially what like what it was but if it were a Black Mirror episode it would have been shorter so that would have been better that was the thing is like it should have been like 45 minutes and instead she just spins her wheels but yes I agree with you the drama best part of the movie best moments on the internet
Starting point is 00:37:21 shout out to Palm Springs too a lot of Palm Springs shine in that alright don't worry darling not the movie just everything around it David time for your first pick I gotta take the slap oh that's on my list fuck I thought that would go first I really did
Starting point is 00:37:38 yeah I thought so too I mean that was insane having like worked on award shows and like just you do right and just know yeah how that shit works and then seeing that and will smith coming off of a strange everything about it was just fucking not it's one of the crazier because show business i feel like at the top people aren't like wiling out in that kind of venue you know what i mean like that was a really crazy fucking thing to do it was crazy wait so as as award show people like what is what is your insight into the the behind the scenes of this
Starting point is 00:38:22 i mean anybody could do it it's just, why would you? I knew it wasn't staged because it was like just the pacing of it, you know? Yeah, it was also too good to have been, it never would have made it past me a number of people who would have had to okay. No good bits make it on. No good bits make it off.
Starting point is 00:38:44 And it just, and the yelling too when he sat down and was yelling then i was like oh this is for sure real well they cut they cut that out like when it was live they cut like right in the middle of that didn't they yeah they did but like also it was like i don't know if you guys remember as it happened like i was watching and the first person i like called sam jay it's like this is the only person who's gonna have a dick it's just like what the fuck is going on because i remember chris rock said he just slapped the shit out of me. And then that got bleeped because he said a bad word after someone slapped him on national television. And the whole fallout of it.
Starting point is 00:39:33 And what is it to be a movie star and all these things? It's just like so fucking interesting. It was he was having a weird year before that. It's been going weird for him for a minute. was having a weird year before that it's been going weird for him for a minute he it's like watching a lot of stuff has been happening lately to what you watch these superstars kind of unraveling and i think that's a testament to like how inside of everybody how up everybody's ass we are all the time now and it's like so to watch to have seen all the things happening to will smith to lead him to that moment it's just and just like that's like a guy will smith is like a guy who has never stepped out of line
Starting point is 00:40:11 no yeah he's made it his whole like the weirdest thing was somebody found out that they do they have fun sex i remember they were like yeah will and jada have fun sex but to to his credit he never really stood on that no no you know what i mean yeah and he got famous as like the rapper that you can play in front of your mom because he doesn't do swears like that was his whole vibe i mean the craziest thing to me was like he knew he was going to get an oscar he could have just sat there for 20 minutes and then walked up to chris rock at the after party and been like fuck you you, dude. Like, he didn't have to do anything. He could have slapped the shit out of him at the after party.
Starting point is 00:40:48 He could have slapped him with an Oscar. I think it was cool. That would have hurt, I think. I mean, I think it's all, I mean, this is all, you know, if you can't see, behind me I have an art wall. In front of me it's just like a beautiful mind style. All these pictures leading back to him at that initial red table talk backstage when it happened must have been fucking nut like like just how dialed in those award shows
Starting point is 00:41:18 are like to the nth degree and like i've only worked on the grammys and the tonys the oscars must be like fucking that's what i'm saying i've only worked on the sbsys and the Tonys. The Oscars must be like fucking. That's what I'm saying. I've only worked on the ESPYs. Like, so the Oscars, you could only imagine you're like, when you have to keep going, you can't, you can't just call it.
Starting point is 00:41:31 You got to be like, okay, so in two minutes, we have to keep doing the show. Somebody has to come out next. And they did. Well, and again,
Starting point is 00:41:39 like they knew he was going to have to come up on stage. Like they couldn't kick him out because they were like, he needs to get the award. Yes. All these. And also all these like old white producers who've been working on these award shows, like since the seventies who are like running or,
Starting point is 00:41:56 you know what I mean? Like, like what's his name? It was, what's his name's first time producing the Oscars. Which also sucked. Which also fucking sucked. And that was a talk i had with a lot of
Starting point is 00:42:05 people where it's like damn the first time we get a black producer like you do this will smith great that's right fucking awesome i didn't know that about the power dynamics you slept chris rock like i know chris rock took it like such a d it was crazy when he just and he's like he put his hand kept him down by his waist he's like like made the face for a second then he's like okay turntables wobble but they don't fall down yeah man he's still like he i don't know that was to not he didn't even say anything he didn't there was no fuck you back or anything that's no just that's crazy to think i would think a comic would take it though.
Starting point is 00:42:45 He's probably, he's been flat before. Yeah. Those comedians aren't tough though. Most comedians would probably fall to the ground. I think a lot of comedians have been beat up though. Yeah. He's been, he's also been to like a lot of therapy and like a lot of like,
Starting point is 00:42:58 like that kind of thing. Like he's a very, yeah. He's a very in touch with himself, dude. He's a grownup. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:05 I think the last grace note, though, was like, obviously everything that happened on stage was insane. But then the fact that he showed up to the after party and there were like videos of him just like, who did God the dance floor? Like, nothing happened. Like, you didn't just, like, you didn't just fucking. Like, dude, I'm sure there are house parties where there aren't paparazzi just go to one of those i mean listen i have a complicated relationship with will smith as we are best friends but it it was just you know we could talk about this forever it was insane
Starting point is 00:43:41 yeah it's i really haven't seen since i've been in show business i really haven't seen anything like that and you know just the memes alone good work instagram good work sean jordan time for your uh first and your second picks i said this is yeah i got the hot corner what do you do you know it's a fun place to be it's a nice little fun to have my back i got like you ain't gotta tell me it's like like nobody could sneak up on me in the hot corner you know that's right the booth we might as well talk about it right elon musk buying twitter okay yeah yeah i mean that's like maybe hopefully the downfall of twitter is what i want it to It came out, no one in the history of humanity
Starting point is 00:44:26 has lost more money than Elon Musk has lost since he bought Twitter. 300 billion dollars. I had this on my list. I had this on my list and you know what I thought to myself? I was like, this is a Sean pick. It's just outside of pop culture enough that I'm
Starting point is 00:44:42 sure Sean's going to get it. It's definitely pop culture. It's on the fence's going to get it. How is that pop culture? It's definitely pop culture. It's on the fence. I had it on my list because it felt like a pop cultural experience, but technically it's not. So I was like, you know what? I bet Sean will take it. Let's hit me with define pop culture.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Is it just music, movies, and TV? No, no, no. It's not a culture. It's not a culture. I know that. I think not eclipses. I think you get the right... Don't start that fire, my friend. The eclipse counts.
Starting point is 00:45:11 No way. Yes, it does. No chance. It was pop culture. If we were doing news stories or things that add... There's a line. Obviously... There is a line, dude.
Starting point is 00:45:21 I think the line is if people do it in public. I guess you guys don't believe that planets are people. I guess you like to have a closed mind. Yeah, fuck Mother Earth. I don't acknowledge your personhood. Mother Gaia and me, yes.
Starting point is 00:45:39 And the Lord, her Savior, Jesus Christ. Whoa! Yeah, dude. Jesus was a woman.esus was a woman i'm gonna go i'll crip walk farther down i'll crip walk as far down this road as you'll let me go i mean ian and i don't acknowledge his divinity so you're just talking about a guy as far as we're concerned or a gal just a member of the tribe Yeah, just some gal chopping it up. Yeah, well, thank you for letting this in.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Twitter, I just want it. Of course. I've always sucked at it. So when it was popular, I didn't like it because I suck at it. And now that it's going away, I just want it to go. I just want it to be done. I don't like it. I don't like Twitter. It's a bummer.
Starting point is 00:46:21 I go on there, and I don't know. I just don't like it. And it'smer i go on there and i don't know i just don't like it and it's just such an interesting thing that he lost that he just ruined it like he was the last like he thought he was gonna kill it like in a good way and he just ruined it completely i don't know what he thought well that's the crazy thing is he was i don't know what he in court to not buy the company like yeah very recently and then my boyfriend has a theory that um like all the embarrassing text messages came out and apparently what happened was they were like um first of all these text messages are terrible
Starting point is 00:46:57 and you should all be ashamed but also there are you're like alluding to things that like aren't in the information you shared so you're gonna need to share more embarrassing text messages and that's when he was like um i'll just buy the company okay it was worth like 50 billion dollars to like not have everyone read his dms i guess because he was kind of like talking out the side of his neck about buying it right like it didn't seem like yeah like one of those like i'll buy i could buy it any day i want and then he had to it's like all right fine i wanted to buy it it's like me with the car and then it was like oh well if i if i say i'm gonna buy it and i decide i don't like rules don't apply to me i'll just pay a billion dollars in fines who cares but yeah i mean i will i think i need to speak up in
Starting point is 00:47:38 twitter's honor for a second someone someone has to um i honestly really like Twitter and my experience there obviously lots of things about it suck but like on balance women have a much easier time on Twitter this is true it's hard for me I'm over six feet
Starting point is 00:47:59 it's tough I know people I would not know outside of Twitter it's like a very easy way for me to like keep in touch with people or for people to like see my work like I don't know I also just like I have a broken
Starting point is 00:48:16 poison brain and I don't know how to interact with people in polite society anymore I'm only fit for Twitter so if it goes away I have nothing I mean i'm with you it it like as a comic there's so there's just so many bummed out comedians on twitter so vocal all the time and so it's like my my feed is just that it's like people being depressed and bummed out but i get it it is a good way to meet people we've got a lot of guests on here from that right
Starting point is 00:48:41 oh my god well i think allison this is i mean twitter is how we met and yeah so it's i'm not i shouldn't talk so much i just like now i'm ready for it to be gone i don't know i dm'd my now wife on twitter that's how like you know i got out i got a hold of yeah but didn't it not work it didn't it didn't it didn't she had to come on here but i invited her on here on twitter as well it's been on red for three years what was the unsuccessful dm slide it just goes you trying to smash yeah and then i think it was even just you up it was david's phone background smashing it was i she said she had never dated like a cool brooklyn boy so she doesn't so she didn't know any like indie rock or anything like that and some something like that a much smarter funnier version of that and i took the occasion to make a five hour long playlist on spotify
Starting point is 00:49:35 you lit her arcade fire that i sent to her and she just like she uses apple, so she never listened to it. Oh. That's so tight. She was just like, thank you. And then I was like, cool. Now in a couple days, she'll say something back. And now we have a conversation going. Nothing. Never heard anything back. And then I invited her on this podcast.
Starting point is 00:49:57 Not even as a, not just I'm like, well, she's cool and funny. Let's have her on the podcast. And then that led to us dating and everything. But yeah, totally unsuccessful DM slide.m slide unsuccessful playlist mixtape slide i love it um but yeah i twitter it like i mean it's just it's it's humanity it's almost too big to say it's all bad and all good you know what it's just yeah yeah i think everybody has a love hate right yeah definitely i honestly think just just because, again, that I was so bad at it,
Starting point is 00:50:26 that I never really got into the good stuff. Were you that bad at it? Yeah, man. I don't remember you being bad at it. Dude, I never. I never. I suck at tweeting. Well, the Elon thing has also felt like
Starting point is 00:50:36 a real monkey's paw situation. I feel like I've spent the last two, three years being like, this guy's such a fucking idiot. When's everyone going to realize this dude's a fucking idiot and doesn't know anything and he's not smart. And then I'm like, oh, well now everyone knows, but it's going to come at the expense of
Starting point is 00:50:51 something that I actually enjoy. So that's all for me. Totally, right. He's shitting in our living room. He's like so bad at Twitter that Tesla's losing value. It's interesting. It's nice to know they're not good at everything. just because you can make a bunch of money doesn't mean yeah right he made a couple good investments and i didn't know that you said that he didn't like it was family money right a lot of it like he came in he didn't invent
Starting point is 00:51:17 anything he bought apartheid emerald mine money not just uh yeah really bad family money and then he bought like he invested in paypal i mean he's like he's a i'm sure he's like a pretty smart savvy business businessman and investor like he invested in paypal really early and then like bought tesla really early like or something like that so like i mean i'm i don't know his biography that well but like your point though the good thing is that like a lot of people think i thought for a while that he invent that he made tesla you know yeah yeah like where some of his fanboys like to think of but people like me who fall into that level of where i i'm just like i read a headline i'm like oh crazy i did think that he was tony stark for a
Starting point is 00:51:59 minute like he made these cars he just did it and so it's i don't know people need to know that he didn't just like there's so many billionaires that you've never heard of who just are content to just sit on their money. And the fact that he's felt the need to brand himself as like, I'm not just a billionaire. I'm trying to save the world from climate change by making
Starting point is 00:52:18 a ton of money. Like, fuck you. Just be a fucking billionaire. Isn't that enough? but apparently it's not enough everybody's got everybody's got a hole they can't fill uh sean jordan your hole that you need to fill right now is not having a second pick when it's your turn to have one oh my transition this guy when are you gonna be in denver my god june 22nd 23rd and 24th make sure you come out and see me wear your transition lenses i'm going be ready Be ready for it. Come, dude. Absolutely. It's at least this last week in Denver.
Starting point is 00:52:49 All right. House of the Dragon. Let's talk about House of the Dragon. Who's to the dragon? I loved it. I got nothing for it. This is where I need opinions thrown at me because I watch House of the Dragon. I do. My opinions, and I'll
Starting point is 00:53:04 say it openly, they're never strong enough because I watched House of the Dragon. I do. My opinions, and I'll say it openly, they're never strong enough. Because I watched House of the Dragon, and I had two complaints. One, that it was too dark. Not emotionally, but visually way too dark. And that everybody's names were the fucking same. And everybody has those same complaints.
Starting point is 00:53:18 But other than that, I thought it was fantastic. I don't know. I really enjoyed it. I loved the start of it. Also, I'm just going to do my little Hollywood flex. I got to go to the premiere at the like big fancy Academy Museum where like the head of HBO came out and was like, this is this is going to be great. So that may have colored my opinion somewhat. But it was really fun to like I saw it like in a movie theater with like thousands of people who were like super amped.
Starting point is 00:53:45 So I really liked it to start. i was really like great like we're back in the game of thrones world but it's not shitty like the end of game of thrones um but like i remember you know the end of game of thrones was partly bad because they were like racing to the finish line didn't even mind it i like the end of game of thrones then there you go i thought like the house of dragon had a similar problem where it was like there are like five year time jumps between every episode which i don't necessarily mind but it means like the characters don't make a lot of sense and like yeah just a lot of stuff got skipped over yeah it was weird like what do you know why they did that why not just make a couple seasons or something so they based it on the book and not only did they do that but they had like george rr martin the author involved which i think the whole point was like we're not gonna do it like game of
Starting point is 00:54:36 thrones where they just kind of winged it and it didn't really work out um and i think because of that he was the author was pretty much like i I want to stick to kind of the timeline. And so I think like the idea was basically like, let's have the whole first season be the build up to the war. And then like everything after that will be the war. And I feel like they maybe should have just been like, let's just take longer on the wind up and have it all make sense later but i i watched every episode i enjoyed it i looked forward to it i watched every episode like the night it came out but like i do i do think like well you're gonna fucking tease this crab feeder and then there's no we don't get any time with a crab feeder he's seriously feeder the crab feeder? He's seen this. What's the crab feeder? The crab feeder, dude. Exactly. Sorry to jump in at a weird time.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Exactly. We don't know either. You hear there's a guy named the crab feeder and they don't really spend any time on him? David, he's a pirate who commands a fleet of zombie crabs. It's very simple. Why can't you understand that? Why is that not the whole thing? You got to watch it, man.
Starting point is 00:55:41 You got to put some time in. You know I'm not going to do it. I know you're not going to do it. Because then I got to watch Game of Thrones. It gotta, yeah, you gotta put some time in. You know I'm not gonna do it. I know you're not gonna do it. Because then I gotta watch Game of Thrones. It's like, I got shit to do. Also, like, I don't want to be too picky. Like, Matt Smith is awesome. Most of the actors are awesome.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Seeing the dragons do dragon things is awesome. Like, a lot of it was really good. I think just, like, I started really, really high on it. And by the end, I was like, oh, come on, guys. Plus the Negroni with prosecco in it with that was a fun moment too but it was great yeah there were like fun performances in it they were i mean you got there were fucking big fucking dragons they delivered on that dragon thing, even if they didn't have the budget to light it properly.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Yeah. I mean, me and Patty, we talked about it when I was on TV. So, you know, not that big of another, another,
Starting point is 00:56:32 another big moment for pop culture last year. But yeah, Patty and I on TV together. Don't say pics, dude. Come on. Anyway, house of the dragon.
Starting point is 00:56:41 I, I, I, I enjoyed it and I, the problems weren't big enough for me to really get bummed about. It was more fun to talk about, like, why the fuck is it so dark? Why are all their names the exact same except for one letter? So there were fun little problems.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Didn't really take away. It was a super fun communal experience. And I think especially the fact that it came out at the same time as the Lord of the Rings show. And so there was like a fun battle of the big IP moment happening. Armageddon and Deep Impact. That going on.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Ants and a Bug's Life. Didn't even kind of watch the Lord of the Rings show. I feel safe talking about it on the air. The first one's fucking two hours. I was like, no. Didn't even a little bit watch it sorry it's an amazon original h-o-t-d-h-o-t-d that's me hot d boy time for your second pick hot you know i'd be remiss i'd be remiss it's
Starting point is 00:57:37 complicated but i got to take the life and times of mr kanye west wow we're finally going to talk about it we're gonna solve anti-semitism i don't even think that i think more to the point of like not to like turn it downhill have you ever like lost a friend to mental illness whether it be literally or figuratively yeah just watch watching someone go through whatever type of crisis spiral is happening is like really dark so to see it happen to someone so publicly someone that you had you know we had a kanye west draft and i would never like lie about that or anything like that no but to watch we talked about what a good guy he was whatever is going on there is like it starts
Starting point is 00:58:23 you know because you feel so many feelings you're like at first you're like oh my gosh well anything to sell albums right what a spectacle he's addicted to celebrity and then it just got to such a place that is so so wild you just never would have seen it coming and it's just and it was like all anybody you know he did what he wanted as far as dominating the media for a long time well the mega stuff all seemed like that where do you like okay that's an attention grab and then it just went crazy i mean it's also like so many things of like you know not you know not educating himself i think that he gets talking points from different people who are
Starting point is 00:59:06 willing to entertain him and he doesn't educate himself that much on a lot of stuff you know what i mean which is like because it's like it's like you know so much of that rhetoric is stuff you've heard before but it's like you know it's debunked because you heard you know what it's just it's just nuts the whole the whole thing is nuts and wherever it goes you know is not going to be a positive place right like i mean that far right anti-semitism as well but just like the far right in general often seems to be the like refuge of the refuge of people who used to, like, be able to say and do whatever they wanted, who all of a sudden got pushback, and then all of a sudden retreat to that to say, oh, you know, like, any pushback is censorship. And then you, like, get yourself entrenched in that, in that, like, echo chamber. have seen up close also is like the fact that having money shields you from consequences of your actions in a certain way and like obviously kanye did eventually face like some consequences
Starting point is 01:00:14 but like this is the tail end of like years of increasingly erratic behavior like the tmg thing was like what four or five years ago now like what was that um when he was on tmz and was i think this was like during his initial conservative turn and he was comparing like black people voting for the democratic party to slavery and then like man lathan who is now a colleague of mine at the ringer but like broke out because he was the guy at tmc who was like yelling at kanye and telling him to know, shut up and consider his opinions a little more. But like, you know, he's been in this space of like increasingly erratic outside of himself, etc. And I don't think he would have gone on that for as long as he has if he were not as rich and powerful and famous.
Starting point is 01:01:04 And that's a real real that's what he goes back to all the time right is like i don't want to hear nothing from broke people and blah blah blah blah and it's like this american idea right that this ability to make money must put you ahead of like you know what i mean like oh yeah all these things he talks about all these things he talks about people study it's not like you know what i mean like there's people who actually spend time and know what they're talking about like yeah and with kanye west it's i know he is mentally ill but it's like someone being clumsy in a gundam suit you know what i mean like the like you when you're rich and powerful and have a massive platform like that like if someone's anti-semitic at a at a bar or like you know what i mean like i i was getting
Starting point is 01:01:44 my haircut once and this guy was talking about how there's good jews and bad jews and how he thinks about like he's like sometimes i just want to bring a rifle to work you know what i mean and fucking shoot my jewish boss and i was just like jesus i got up and left it was fucking crazy i remember that it was in glendale right in no it was in that water village when we like super cuts no it's not when we live in glen it's when i lived here yeah i think i might have told you no it was in that water village when we lived no it's not when we live in glen it's when i lived here yeah i think i might have told you but it was like right down the street from my but i just like i got up and left and i was like i mean like whatever i fucking called the fbi because it was someone with a gun threatening violence against jews but so whatever i did that
Starting point is 01:02:18 but also it was one person and it was scary and it sucked, but it was like, it's not a guy. People are taken serious in the same way. Either one of those five people was the six people in that barbershop and his life and that guy's life probably sucked. You know what I mean? Like whatever, but like, this is a dude like making these claims with a massive platform that like
Starting point is 01:02:38 people listen to and like, and then it became like a fucking theme of the year for like people to like riff on and shit like a global platform like yeah a global platform and it's like conspiracy conspiracy theories too with but i don't know i have a whole joke about it how a lot of black people i've just i've also had friends that i've lost to conspiracy theories i had a buddy who like you know because it starts it starts being this like, Oh, I, so-and-so thinks this is weird. And that's weird.
Starting point is 01:03:07 Now, have you talked to him? And then like my friend personally, it became this thing of like, I remember hanging out with him and I was listening to Jay-Z and he was like, don't listen to that. He's just, he sacrifices his own kind. And then this guy just like goes off the deep end and now you can't fuck with him anymore. So it's like, my heart goes, I've seen it before and I understand how it's easy to just get your wheels
Starting point is 01:03:29 spinning. But like to see it on such a public large space is like really, really a wild thing. I've never seen anything like that before. Yeah. It's, and it's that thing where it's like, well,
Starting point is 01:03:43 if X, Y, Z was true, then why wouldn't, why wouldn't one, two, three be true sometime? You know what I mean? But but like the one, two, three then just gets into like some like crazy shit. And like, I don't know. like there's like that super shitty catch 22 that always happens with anti-semitism where like if anyone faces any consequence for it it's like proof that jews control the media like but i mean like it's not it's more like he should have faced consequences for everything else not that he shouldn't face consequence for this also you know right people complained about him like well why didn't we cancel him when he said slavery was a choice xyz it's like well it would the white german ceo of adidas if he had dropped kanye a black man for
Starting point is 01:04:31 saying that slavery was a choice like if that then would that have been like how would that have looked for adidas where it's like oh now you're censoring or is that like what is canceling you know i don't right exactly what is it like what is any of it it's just like we like we canceling is like well that takes the power away from like his fans who do follow him and listen to you know what i mean right and he's like he's at a point you're not gonna be able to take enough money you're gonna take all his money it's never gonna right it's never gonna completely shut him down yeah and what and like also what should what is the responsibility i don't know just to see someone go through this meltdown in public like this, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:05:07 And it's like such a, such a time too, when already distrust of the media. So it's just like such a, such a reflection of now, you know, it's such a thing that's happening right now. And it's so many other things going into it than just one guy being ill-informed about shit. But the whole thing was it was it was a thing i watched all year and i think everybody did couldn't take your eyes off of it and this is kanye kanye west is his name kanye west it's actually yay now yeah yeah i'll
Starting point is 01:05:36 check i'll check it out is this on this on twitter i'll check it out you can see all this on twitter it's like you guys ate up the rest of my friday i think he bought parlor didn't he didn't buy one of those i'm a mastodon guy from way back so you can find me over there with my opinions oh do you mastodon uh yeah kanye west fantastic pick Time for my next pick. Man, I keep picking after these massive discussions. Ice cream. Please bring it back up. I'm going to bring it back up. I'm going to bring it back up.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Okay, here's a... I'm going to take... Don't do it. Specifically, I'm taking the White Lotus, but not the show. I am taking the White Lotus but not the show I'm taking the theme song specifically this year's iteration of the White Lotus theme song
Starting point is 01:06:32 which was the first season's White Lotus theme song but a club banger and an opera don't forget the opera an opera club banger I'll give you a sample of it can I get a taste and then it like yeah it had like a beat to it it was fantastic i should i should watch white lotus yeah you should watch white lotus no i saw the first season i saw the first episode of the
Starting point is 01:07:03 first season because it's got my girl connieon in it, right? Am I crazy? That's White Lotus, yeah? I should watch it. I'm getting towards the end of The Americans, which is like a 15-year-old show that I... or 10-year-old show that I just started watching. White Lotus is next. Gotta do it. 13 episodes total. Okay, I actually will not spoil any of it because I do want to preserve
Starting point is 01:07:20 the surprise for you, but yeah, White Lotus season one was my number one show of last year. And then season two, I had not seen the finale before we did our rankings, but I think it would have been higher. Also, I want to credit the composer's name is Cristobal Tapia de Vere. He did both theme songs. Legend. Legend.
Starting point is 01:07:40 It's so good. Ian just sat back like he was looking at a nice haircut. You were proud. That was fun. I was in my... That you were able to go off top with that dude's name is amazing. I know you write about TV, but even that's still incredibly impressive. Got some hitters, right?
Starting point is 01:07:54 Steven Zahn. Oh, yeah. Steven Zahn is in it. In the first one, yeah. Season two. Oh, yeah. Aubrey Plaza does great work. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:03 Michael Imperioli, Christopher from the Sopranos. Absolutely. Is that Spider? Am I out of my mind? Is that Spider? Maybe. Yeah, that's Spider. Where was I? He was at a show or some shit that we did. Am I crazy?
Starting point is 01:08:20 Well, anyway. Oh, no, no, no. Where did we see him? Somebody, they were like watch. Somebody... They were like, watch... Somebody... They were like, that's Spider from Goodfellas. Did you see his band? No, god darn it. This is dumb to listen to.
Starting point is 01:08:33 I was with him somewhere once. I like the first season more than I like the second season. I think I like the second season less than a lot of people like the second season. I think I liked the second season less than a lot of people liked the second season. I still enjoyed it. It was so interesting. I know people who felt both ways. I know people who were like
Starting point is 01:08:56 season two was so much better than season one. Like, this is so great. And then I saw new people who were like season two was kind of a letdown, but like, they're both great. I'm very much like, I don't think season two is as good as season one but it's because I think season one is like literally a perfect season of television yeah like if season one was never around season two would probably be the dank but since season one is around you have something to compare it to yeah so much bigger this like speaking of the theme song like if you were on
Starting point is 01:09:21 tiktok like you could scroll through like 10 videos in a row and they would all be like riffing on the theme song. Really? Yes. And then after the finale, again, we'll not spoil, but like Jennifer Coolidge gives a really funny line delivery in the finale. And within like literally two hours, there was a remix of the club remix of the White Lotus theme song. That was like Jennifer Coolidge like saying a funny line interspers the white lotus theme song that was like jennifer look jennifer coolidge like saying a funny line interspersed in the theme song like it was everywhere which was wild because season one i feel like no one was really checking for it and it's yeah it snuck up on
Starting point is 01:09:56 people and this was like an event for two months hayley lou richardson's outfits in that show well you could it could have been a draft pick on their own she's like this Gen Z character who dresses fucking insane like some of them are like oh that's like a normal Gen Z fit and some of them are like Mike White like turned the dial up to
Starting point is 01:10:16 fucking 15 it was crazy so many great performances it's beautiful it functions as travel porn better than any other show on TV this can work
Starting point is 01:10:32 for as long as he wants it to go because I think a lot of season 2's of limited series are like you just ruined the original by making it worse and this is like apparently next season he's like yeah I'm gonna do like East Asia and do something about like death and spirituality.
Starting point is 01:10:48 And I'm like, I will watch whatever you put in front of my eyeballs. Thank you. Fucking sign me up. I'm like, even as someone who like, that's, that's how I don't like,
Starting point is 01:10:58 just how good the sandbox is, I guess, is that like, I like didn't love season two. I liked it a lot lot i didn't love it and i'm still like i will be the second it comes out on the east coast i'll be watching it on the west coast season three i'm excited that i get it's fun it seems like one of those shows that just snuck by me and now i just get to watch both anyway yeah i'm excited for you yeah wet your beak
Starting point is 01:11:20 for that fucking second season theme song dude because that is my pick hey man that's the whole that's what did this whole thing to me i'm excited uh allison time for your second and your third picks as it is a serpentine draft well i feel like this is going to be building on both of the latest we're going to talk about some anti-semitism and some hbo prestige tv because my second pick is the rehearsal made by nathan fder. I never saw it. Oh, man. I was not a huge Nathan for you person. Like, I obviously thought it was brilliant,
Starting point is 01:11:52 but, like, I did find it very hard to watch. And I think, weirdly, the rehearsal is much more, like, dramatic, like, scare quotes, but also about, like, why it's uncomfortable in a very, like, meta way, but made it like why it's uncomfortable in a very like meta way, but made it easier for me to engage with. But yeah, so for those who don't know,
Starting point is 01:12:10 Nathan Fielder's whole thing is he kind of plays a character who's also himself who puts himself in lots of like elaborate situations that involve real life people. So Nathan, for you was he was like a business improvement person who would go in and help people improve their businesses. And then this one, he's like, real life is too overwhelming. I'm going to help people elaborately recreate their real life to help them, you know, with whatever situations they come to me with. And the first episode is an hour long and he helps a guy with a trivia night who wants to confess that he's been lying to a woman he plays trivia with.
Starting point is 01:12:53 And the production value is so crazy. Like he went to HBO and HBO was like, we will help you recreate an entire Williamsburg bar with a functioning pizza oven inside of it. Like on a soundstage. In a soundstage. Then they then later shipped across the country. Not to spoil anything.
Starting point is 01:13:11 Not spoiling anything. I think this is getting me excited. The first episode is completely self-contained. And you kind of think, like, okay, like, it's going to be like Nathan Free, where every episode is on its own. And, like, you know, there's some running themes, but it's mostly going to be like a thing of the week. And then starting in episode two,
Starting point is 01:13:28 it goes to Oregon, Ian's native. And he starts working with a woman who's like, I want to see if I want to become a parent. And Nathan's like, I'm going to help you. Like, I'm going to hire a bunch of child actors and we're going to rehearse you being a mom. Bunch of normal kids. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:46 And it becomes this thing that is, like, very funny because he gets incredibly strange people who I was told, my friend who's also from Portland was like, there are a lot of, like, Portland guys that they managed to find in the wild. But it's very moving and strange and calls a lot of Nathan's personal background into question. He brings up his divorce in the first episode,
Starting point is 01:14:15 and I think it kind of hangs over everything that happens. And I thought it had such a wonderful finale. And then the day of the finale, they were like, oh, also we're doing more of this, whichifies me but i cannot wait to watch more i see i only ever watched the first one but i also because nathan for you is the same thing with me or like went so far that i was like it's almost you have to you almost have to watch it just because like it's good and then also what what like what this i don't even know what it's its own category of thing i don't even know what it is it's not comedy i mean they must have made everyone sign just like insane ndas because another crazy thing is like you're
Starting point is 01:14:57 watching it and you're like how did they do this like when did this happen over what period of time like how much did people know about what was happening? So, like, that first episode, like, it's unclear, like, when or whether Nathan, like, comes clean about, like, a deception. And, like, we still don't know, even though, like, the guys in that episode has been doing interviews. And so, you're just, like, so much of it is not just, like, what's on the screen, but but you being like, so many things had to happen in terms of like editing and shooting and releases and permissions. And it all just comes together, like not totally seamlessly, but it works. Yeah. I think even knowing like, like, I think the show is amazing for anyone, but like working in television and or like having a knowledge of like like you were saying like how all that stuff has to happen for something to
Starting point is 01:15:48 end up like on the screen makes it even more where you're like how the fuck did he do this how did they do this appreciate the whole thing also what did he like i mean from when he started the amount of either faith in your ability to adapt as the thing goes on, like his ability to like take what just happened and adapt it and to make it something interesting and useful that also sets other things up to happen. It's like, I hate to throw this word around, but it's, it's, he's a genius. Like he really is like, there's also, there's credited writers on it. Um, who I should credit their Eric Natarnikola and Carrie Kemper, Ellie Kemper's sister. He's a genius. Like, he really is. Well, there's also, there's credited writers on it.
Starting point is 01:16:25 Yeah. Who I should credit. They're Eric Natarnicola and Carrie Kemper. Ellie Kemper's sister is, like, one of the two writers on the show. And so you're like, there are writers. Was he just, like, collecting footage and then, like, running back to the writers and being like, well, what should we do now? Or were they coming in the editing and being like, this is how we should shape this into a story? Like have so many questions they will probably never be answered but like oh my god so good like the maybe the most singular thing that happened this year like in television anyway or just like
Starting point is 01:16:56 produced entertainment maybe like just fucking crazy uh and your third pick all right i'll try to keep this brief so i'm not just lecturing everybody about stuff. No, you love it. You're informing me. This is what I need. I'm just going to pick my favorite movie of the year, which was Tar, starring Lydia Tarr, a.k.a. Cate Blanchett.
Starting point is 01:17:19 Yeah, it's so good. That movie ruled. And the ending, man. I put the accent mark in the doc. That really fucked me up. I've seen it twice in theaters, ruled and the ending man that put the accent mark in the doc that really fucked me up I've seen it twice in theaters which like for two and a half hour movie
Starting point is 01:17:31 that's a tall order you know I I feel like such a jerk here because I haven't also haven't seen it I feel like it didn't get the fanfare that a lot of other movies can I sound like a prick I've never even heard of it then I'm just gonna sell you on it uh hit me give me the we're in an elevator i just hit we're going to the 12th floor it's one of those movies where you like you hear the description
Starting point is 01:17:55 and you're like oh that sounds fucking terrible where it's like kate blanchett plays a composer who is fictional although there are lots of memes about how she's a real person. And, like, the synopsis is basically, like, she gets canceled or, like, Me Too'd. But, like, the practice of watching the movie is, first of all, like, it's not morally ambiguous at all. It's like this person was shitty and her shittiness is kind of coming back to her.
Starting point is 01:18:22 And then it's, like, creepy and kind of like a ghost story and just weird and like sort of increasingly crazy things happen over the course of two and a half hours and um i loved it so much david why do you like it and just your your because she looks like such a together character when it first starts and then just as the movie goes on you see like her particular brand of crazy and how she deals with all these things and then the part there's an attack of some sort like just like you see her getting like more and more unhinged but then you realize that she's always been operating this way it's just now that the pressure's on her it's like coming to the light and then the end i thought the end was just like
Starting point is 01:19:10 so so good it's such a good parody of like obviously she's this like fancy schmancy like cultural you know she teaches a class of juilliard at the beginning and like the opening scene of the movie she rips that kid as a bipoc pan gender person i yeah but she the first scene of the movie is her in conversation with adam gopnik who is a new yorker writer who is playing himself like in the movie um at the new yorker festival and it's such a fucking good parody of like how insufferable that shit is like the first he's like reading aloud her bio and it's just like she gets her piece she from harvard and then she does field work in the amazon and also she is an egot and you're like what and then the final punch line is that she's producing a memoir called Tar on Tar. Yeah. And like she also goes on Alec
Starting point is 01:20:09 Baldwin's podcast actually. Sorry you guys impersonating Alec Baldwin. Yes this podcast. Thank you. It's one of those movies where like I heard stories of people who saw it at like Lincoln Center and were like oh all the like old Upper West Side people around me did not understand that this movie was making fun of them for the
Starting point is 01:20:28 first like hour interesting but um yeah i mean it's like definitely one of those movies where like you hear the description and you're like oh like i don't want that discourse or like oh it sounds like too like hoity-toity or up its own ass and it's like not at all it was a pleasant surprise because i went and saw it with a buddy of mine i have a buddy that i go see movies with regularly and it was not one of my picks i did not i was like he was like let's go see tar today and i was like okay okay man you know what i mean because we go to the movies all the time and i was so pleasantly surprised yeah i thought it was great the acting was great i just what a treat that is when you're pleasantly surprised by a movie that you kind of were on whatever it was going into and i was like this better not fucking suck yeah she's pulling down that trophy this year
Starting point is 01:21:15 i mean that right is there like a more clear runaway winner it seems like right michelle yo is probably gonna beat beat her. Really? Is Maverick going to get nominated for Best Picture? I think so. That's pretty buck, huh? That shit doesn't happen a lot. If they know what's good for them, they will. Also, I just have to drop my favorite fun fact about this movie,
Starting point is 01:21:40 which is that the guy who wrote and directed Tar also acts and is the guy who plays the piano in Eyes Wide Shut. Todd Field plays the piano in Eyes Wide Shut. Todd Field plays the piano in Eyes Wide Shut? Yep, that's Todd Field. And this is his, also I love that like, this is his first movie in like 16 years and like his other movies are definitely good, but like you would not expect him to make like a weird movie shot in Germany and Thailand
Starting point is 01:22:01 like after all that time, you yeah you're like how do movies get made i guess people liked his first ones right it's funny because if i if i thought you said todd phillips just for a brief second and i was like no no road trip in old school it would be so sick if todd phillips just like if he just turned to a tar. Whoa, Todd Field went to my he went to Southern Oregon University where I went to college for one year. Yeah, he's a crazy Wikipedia page. Are you at the
Starting point is 01:22:34 part about chewing gum? No, but I'm in the part where he grew up in Portland, Oregon. What's the part about chewing gum? He like invented Big League Chew. Ian, you're on the page. You're gonna get there. Yeah. He wanted tobacco so bad. He's like, you know, I'm gonna make's like you know this guy had a lot to do with my life on a lot of levels yeah i feel like todd field and mike white are both great like i can just surprise you at any time with like an insane fact about him like mike white i can be like that guy wrote the emoji movie
Starting point is 01:23:01 and you're gonna be like what it's crazy to me i never even thought of somebody inventing big league chew i just thought it was a mistake like oops all berries somebody put some gum in a shredder how does todd field hell yeah all right tar lydia tar time for my third pick i'm tenting my hands i want the listeners to know I'm tenting my hands I want the listeners to know I'm tenting my hands they can feel it the Mr. Burns energy
Starting point is 01:23:31 is coming to the mic my pick I'm gonna take fuck yeah I'm gonna take Harry Styles album yeah okay yeah
Starting point is 01:23:41 yeah yeah that dude is fantastic my second Harry Styles adjacent pick, I guess. It's a big, it's a big hairier for me. Uh,
Starting point is 01:23:52 I, I just fucking his music gets me in such a good mood. Yeah. It's shocking. I noticed you're not picking his acting because acting work this year. I'm not, I'm not technically. No,
Starting point is 01:24:04 no, I guess you didn't know. Cause he picked everything around it. Everything around it no i guess you didn't know because you picked everything around it everything around it no i didn't take the movies themselves uh neither one i don't think anyone's taking my policeman either uh but this album i don't know just like it's just got fucking hits on it dude as it was it like i've heard it a million times it still puts me in a good mood every time i like music uh for a sushi restaurant uh i don't love late night talking if i'm going to be completely honest because it sounds like a song that like maroon 5 could have made but i think that's kind
Starting point is 01:24:35 of like the power and charm of harry styles like i guess i just i like that he exists i like that we have a massive pop star like that I like that there is someone who's like kind of but like a massive pop star who kind of makes like good music like critically acclaimed music even you know what I mean he's definitely like trafficking in that full pop genre but at the same
Starting point is 01:24:58 time like making listenable but also like kind of interesting and good music I like I don't know i think it's cool i think it's cool that he's like made this transition he's like seems like a i mean like i've i know him a little bit he's a he's like a really good dude he's like a fun he's a fun hang he's a sweet guy and i don't know i just i just i really like the album i thought it was fantastic and i like when there are things that kind of take over the culture for a minute he seems great he's doing his own thing too he's just yeah everything's
Starting point is 01:25:30 original like i look at how harry styles dress i'm like god he looks great i would look so stupid in what he's wearing yeah it's fun he looks he looks amazing he seems funny he seems like he's very appreciative always having a good time he seems seems like an adult, which is interesting. And he seems like he's going for longevity because he keeps like moving and shaking and doing original things and making that pop music. I love a lot of people love pop music. I love pop music. And it's fun listening to it where you're like, oh, man, he's doing it. He's doing it right.
Starting point is 01:26:00 It doesn't feel like a formula to me. And just being like extremely interesting all along the way at least to me yeah and I just liked Harry's house it was fun it was also the most fun I had working on something when we did like that we made a music video in someone's apartment dude that shit was dope
Starting point is 01:26:18 and what was that song Daylight Daylight yeah which is another great song and it was the most fun I had self-servingly the most fun I had at work this year. Yeah, it was great. He's just a great performer, too. I feel like a lot of people who get famous these days are like, oh,
Starting point is 01:26:34 you get famous making a TikTok in your bedroom, which doesn't necessarily translate to stage presence. And again, I would just see videos on the internet that were just composites of him carrying a feather boa around stage and just having real commanding like i would just see videos on the internet that were just like composites of him like carrying a feather boa around stage and just like having real commanding stage presence in like an
Starting point is 01:26:51 arena which feels so rare yeah he's got fucking chops like for sure he can hold an audience i would love to show him to my dad if i could do that i could see my dad sitting on the couch being like there's no jackson brown but i get it you know jackson it's nothing your dad hasn't seen though because he like i mean he like yeah he like walks around like mick jagger up on stage you know what i mean he dresses a little bit like a watered down elton john which that's a fun part of it too that creeps in your head and maybe you don't maybe i don't realize i'm thinking that but you're like oh look at this he's doing he's doing what like did they did 30 years ago you know like when people were i don't know this is true but i
Starting point is 01:27:25 would imagine he's like watched tape of mick jagger the way like you know what i mean luka donchich has watched tape of like you know like chris paul and whatever like get there yeah coach coach taylor watching game footage of the panthers like yep there you go yeah yeah yeah my brain kept setting up kairiving and I was like, no, no, no, no, no. He's got, he's got a fucking bag.
Starting point is 01:27:51 What can I say? No, no. Harry's house, David, time for your third pick. So man, I wasn't going to pick a movie,
Starting point is 01:28:00 but then I was like, what's one movie that did kind of like do it for me this year? And not that I love films, but this is like kind of different than a movie, but it still counts to me. I'm taking Jackass forever. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So many.
Starting point is 01:28:15 Just like decades. Man, it's very rare that something is everything I want it to be. You know what I mean? And it was it did everything it needed to do it brought in new people it felt like you got closure on it was just it was amazing man and it was everybody saw it and man i saw it with my buddy in the theaters and we fucking i haven't laughed at because i don't know i love movies but there's not been a ton of great comedies over the last few years i feel like even critics on this one probably step back like i i'm sure there were critics when jackass came out and they were like this is stupid they probably stepped back
Starting point is 01:28:53 and they were like look at them putting a button on it and making this movie emotional somehow because that movie was emotional they got the whole crew back together all their history i mean that goes all the way back to big brother like there's so much history with the jackass crew and it took them so long to even get the terms for this movie to to get made and they did it and it's so just as good if not better than all the other ones i think it was i think it's probably funny and amazing for anyone to watch but like for people like us specifically and allison i don't know if this includes you but it might but who have like grown up with these people and gone through those same phases of just like oh for sure you know you started with these people when you're like in
Starting point is 01:29:36 middle school yeah do it like doing sit like your version of that similarly stupid stuff yeah and we've grown up with them like all along the way. And they're all older now. Like Johnny Knoxville. Some of them are gone. And like, it's like gone. Right. The real progression of a friend group.
Starting point is 01:29:52 Johnny Knoxville is so goddamn attractive. Can I, I mean, it's like, I was going to add a jackass ancillary thing that happened this year is Johnny Knoxville is in that show reboot. I don't know if anyone's seen it. And it's one of those things where you're like,
Starting point is 01:30:08 oh yeah, like Johnny Knoxville is getting cast as like, in the show he's like an over the hill middle-aged actor. And you're like, that's so wild because I've been watching him for this long. But he's very good in it. Yeah, I mean, in watching just the whole thing, and then it also introduced us to Dark
Starting point is 01:30:23 Shark. Big fan of that guy he's just holding up for dear life with that tarantula crawling in his face and having the new generation of kids like that zach ass guy because he was in the eric andre's writer's room he's a really nice guy just the whole thing is like really it was just really great and it was a thing that they could have blown it or they could have laid it up and they did it exactly how they wanted it to be and it was just nice to go to i laughed the same way in that movie that i did when i saw the first movie yeah yeah what i mean that crew doesn't blow it a lot like they they really for the most part that whole crew like they're full of hits like all of them with whatever they do with skating
Starting point is 01:31:05 or whatever like they all kind of do it right excellent pick also speaking of critics i believe the ringers adam naiman put jackass forever on his best of the year list so some of them some of them know what's what good on you much like top gun maverick a movie that it's like where you're like well i'm gonna go see this in the theater also so much hilarious full frontal nudity i can't get enough of that yeah the whole intro a lot of funny dong in movies anymore the whole intro had me dying dying just a painted green penis i'm just like well they got me here's my 15 american dollars have at it well we've got your 15 dollars what we'd like now are your next two picks come on dude i'm gonna i'm gonna pick a tv show pick one that i it was
Starting point is 01:31:55 another one that i didn't know anything about i had a few friends tell me i should watch it and i'd watch the first episode and i i've never been like so audible during a TV show is Severance. Yes. And when I watch it, it twists. I had to pause it, I bet, 15 times the first episode even. I just had to pause it and look at my wife like, what? So what is happening? And I just
Starting point is 01:32:17 had to say it out loud so I knew what was happening. It was so fun. It's just a crazy science fiction. How don't know how would you explain it allison um so for those who don't know it's go ahead it's directed by ben stiller so that's selling point number one but yeah it's like one of those um like it's kind of a mystery box show where they all take it takes place in this mysterious big corporation where some employees are severed so that um like the person they are inside of the
Starting point is 01:32:54 office has no memory of who they are outside of the office and vice versa so like you just black out for eight hours a day or you're just like a person in a box and you don't know anything about what brought you there which is obviously like super a box and you don't know anything about what brought you there which is obviously like super scary and one of the things i loved about the show is it opens it's one of the best pilots i think it was probably the best pilot of the year you don't ever get to sleep if you're in the office building if you're the severed person you're awake every second of your life it's such a brain melter for me to think about. It also seems possible in a weird way where you're like,
Starting point is 01:33:29 oh shit, I can see us getting here. Yeah. Oh, I mean, I've, it's. But it like, doesn't feel like one of those like sanctimonious, like imagine this happening to you. It's just so like otherworldly and creepy. And like, I love that it, it doesn't quite have that westworld feeling of like no
Starting point is 01:33:45 offense to westworld where you're like it feels like they just engineered the entire show around scattering easter eggs it's like no it just steeps you in this like super weird fucked up very well acted very cool looking place and you're just there for eight to ten hours or however long the first season is and then you have to think like what because they talk about their their outies or what like if you're in the office building they talk about their selves as in the outside world and if you were in the outside world could you live with yourself knowing that you were essentially created this other person who just their life is in this cubicle and you did that to them so you don't have to suffer through
Starting point is 01:34:22 work for eight hours a day. It's just nuts. The whole thing is so crazy to think about. And the intro is amazing. Zach Cherry is great in it. Patricia Arquette is great in it. Zach Cherry is fantastic in that show. Christopher Walken is in a gay romance. That is the sentence I can say.
Starting point is 01:34:42 It's so good. They're both so good at it. Yeah. It's a really, Adam Scott's face. It feels like it's getting more pinched. I know. The back of his head feels like someone's just holding him and someone's
Starting point is 01:34:54 yanking his feet down. He looked like his face. It's just, I don't know how he breathes. Every time I see him, I'm like, I worry about him. Like I do a pug where I'm like,
Starting point is 01:35:02 how do you get enough air through that? Very tiny nose into your face also he's him and Tig Notaro are turning into each other and at some point we'll become one person man that's gonna be a great whatever they create when they are one yeah yeah I think Lauer is like the big the big discovery
Starting point is 01:35:18 from that show for me but like and I think she's gonna get even more to do in season two because in the end of season one you find out like who her Audi, and it's a whole thing. I've never wanted a season two more than I wanted that immediately. Adam Scott. So through the whole first season, he's the only one you really see in both environments. So I think he gets the most opportunity to flex, because he's playing two different characters the entire time.
Starting point is 01:35:42 Right. I think he has the showiest role, although I think he does it really, really well. But I think Britt Lauer was the one where I was like, I was literally like, who is that? And then like looked up all of her stuff afterward.
Starting point is 01:35:56 Severance, baby. Severance. Great show. Great pick. Good golly, Miss Molly. It's time for your fourth pick.
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Starting point is 01:38:38 could save. That's policygenius.com. And we're back. Welcome back to All Fantasy Everything already in progress it's time for sean jordan's fourth pick i'm gonna pick one song a specific song uh kate bush running up that hill it had such a crazy rent like i didn't even know that she did that song i heard it and it was a uh who did i meg um god darn it like two years ago yeah meg griffin it was it was meg griffin meg myers she did a cover of it and i thought it was a song that just came out a couple years ago and then it just you know it was on stranger things and it was crazy watching this whole thing happen with this one song because they would like on radio stations they'd be like
Starting point is 01:39:24 and coming up next uh running up that hill the original version where you're like oh man they gotta say it like that just to let people know that this is that original i don't know it's just fun seeing a song completely come back because of a tv show it topped because of a tv show and then really it's also just a dope song oh was it was it? Was that have a lot to do with it? Well, yeah, it was on Stranger Things. And that's where people were like, oh, shit, what is this song? And then TikTok took it and was like, took time, dude. This was truly like the vindicating year for like weird white girls with Tumblr accounts
Starting point is 01:39:58 in 2013. This was our hour. We rose. Yeah, it's I don't know. It's just it was really fun. this was our hour we rose yeah it's I don't know it was just it was really fun just a fun interesting thing that happened with that one specific song
Starting point is 01:40:13 it like topped the charts because of it it was crazy Kate Bush is a weirdo man that's like amazing that that happened she has a song about Wuthering Heights called Wuthering Heights not just a song she has a mansion called Wuthering Heights in London that she bought with her Wuthering Heights money. Really?
Starting point is 01:40:31 Oh, my God. Google it. I was Wuthering about that. Oh. There he is. What are we doing? What are we doing? Holy buckets.
Starting point is 01:40:40 Here I am. Yeah. It was watching the internet work in a fun way where you're like it can't this can all be fun this can all be cool sometimes like the best example of like a thing tiktok has been doing which is do you remember when like you were a kid and you would hear a song like and it was like not one that was on the radio like i didn't hear songs when i was 18 it was a weird house that's right yeah but like from your parents generation or like they played a weird like anita baker song and you were like,
Starting point is 01:41:05 Ooh, I love this. Or like, like some weird Melissa Etheridge song or B-side or whatever. Yeah. Now that's happening like on TikTok and the kids listening to the parents music will take it, share it.
Starting point is 01:41:15 And it like, and not just the parents, but it just blows up. Like the mountain goats have like a song chart from an album that was like 15 years old, but either last year or the year before. Like just because TikTok takes old songs and explodes them now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:41 Well, there's that meme on TikTok of like the Adult Swim intro where people would like come up with really convoluted ways to like have the Adult Swim logo and like that backing track. Yeah, yeah. Blew up. But like, I feel like I definitely had that like knee jerk, like grumpy response of like, it's so insane that people are only going to know about Kate Bush through this show. And then of course, like I got over myself and was like,
Starting point is 01:41:56 it's great that people are learning about Kate Bush and this, it's awesome that she's getting this platform. I just, you know, I took like two minutes. I just had to like work through it. No, there's
Starting point is 01:42:05 always cool you know that's that's so much of music right is the discovery and you being like i was there when i was supposed to be that's half the fun yeah um but yeah great pick running up that hill thanks bro yeah can you sing a little bit for us i don't know most of the lyrics again if you wear the lyrics running up that hill i swear to god that's like the only actual oh make a deal with god and running up that hill keep running up that hill damn it's gonna start again definitely know that part I really I got that part down if tiktok could if I think what's gonna happen is mastodon's gonna get a hold of what I just did it's really gonna knock it out that's the other thing it's
Starting point is 01:43:02 not called retweeting it's called called boosting. So you boost toots. First turts, I guess. Oh, I've been doing that from way back. It's a boost tootin' boogie. I'm a toot booster from day one. He boosted a toot in the hotel one time and I had to leave. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:19 No, I didn't get my incidentals back. David, time for your fourth pick. Not to weirdly to take another, I guess to take another kind of man just in a very strange time in his life, but in the world of sports, I'm taking Tom Brady. Oh yeah. Yeah. Coming to that last night. My God. I'm taking Tom Brady Oh yeah 80 for Brady coming to theaters
Starting point is 01:43:45 I just saw the preview for that last night My god that looks ridiculous Jane Fonda is face tuned into the next dimension It is It looks so good Have you seen that David? Have you seen that trailer? No what's 80 for Brady?
Starting point is 01:43:58 Oh my god 80 for Brady is This probably plays into what you're saying It's a movie that Tom Brady produced About like four old women. He produced it? Yes, he's in it because he produced it. I mean, and they go to the Super Bowl to see Tom Brady be Tom Brady,
Starting point is 01:44:14 but it's like the book club template. So it's Jane Fonda. Is this Sally Field, Jane Fonda, Lily Tomlin? The trailer plays, and before everyone's name, it's like academy award winner reena moreno academy award winner and it's all these oscar winners who are just playing like
Starting point is 01:44:32 horny older women who love tom brady also gronk is in it bedazzled patriots jerseys with like jewels all over him and chip i this is my the first time i took him without this this is because those are tom brady's only peers anymore he's 45 yeah in a league dominated by people in their like mid to late 20s there's 22 year olds in there yeah the only people he can relate to are 80 year old women still killing it in hollywood in fact a line in the trailer where someone is like oh he's 40 that's like 80 in people years and then Jane Fonda's like we're 80 in people years that's the joke
Starting point is 01:45:12 that's his peer group he has more in common with Jane Fonda also love to see Jane and Lily back together yeah I mean despite not despite this including this because this is also weird just like I think that athletics, as far as like, sports is not a place that allows for like odd behavior like that. And he's just like, you just, have you seen, it's different than when Michael Jordan came back.
Starting point is 01:45:42 Like, it's because, you know what I mean? This is, it's a whole? It's a whole different thing. And then the divorce on top of it and these weird pictures, which think whatever you want about that. I don't really have much feelings about it. But it's just like from a guy that it's this other thing where it's like. Which weird pictures? With this kid.
Starting point is 01:46:04 Oh, God. Where he's like he doesn't have a shirt on and he's got a book on. I think it's people who have internet brain, but that's whatever. They're just whack pictures. They're not. They're whack. They're like whack Midwest dad pictures. Do you buy into or are you familiar with the conspiracy theory that the divorce is actually
Starting point is 01:46:22 to shield assets from the crypto shit that's going on i have not heard that i could be i could buy into that for sure he's just lit up that sounds like that sounds like a fine theory and i'll entertain every part of it he's getting uh sued because he was a crypto spokesperson for ftx and the divorce was announced like right before it so now people are like oh are they just divorcing so that like she'll have money that will be safe from whatever it's probably as you said internet brain but it is delightful to me because i don't know how culpable he is for like, I mean, I don't know what a spokesperson's legal responsibility is in that. But fun to think about.
Starting point is 01:47:10 Exactly. It is very fun to think about. Also, just that he's not playing. There's a weird, we know too much. We've gone too far. It's so fucking crazy. It's so fucking crazy. He ripped Skip and Shannon apart,annon apart which you know that was probably
Starting point is 01:47:27 coming there's a thread between him and will him and will smith have there's there's a commonality in their two years i think it's a similar i think it's a similar like highest heights yeah these guys who are untouchable because he he was going to leave the best ever do it. Right. Not just his position, just the game. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:49 Is he good still middle of the, I mean, middle of the pack. Didn't he kind of do the LeBron thing where I absolutely have no idea what I'm talking about. So feel free to correct me, but didn't he do the LeBron thing where he joined like a team that's not nearly as good as the Patriots, but like just by virtue of him being so good, he kind of propelled them way further than they should have gotten otherwise.
Starting point is 01:48:10 Or am I getting that wrong? It worked once. Yeah. They were kind of good. I mean, him and LeBron kind of did the same thing. Like the teams were kind of good to go. So LeBron went to a bad team and then got anthony davis there and then they won a championship in the bubble doesn't count as much in my opinion uh but he did that
Starting point is 01:48:30 tom brady went to a team that was kind of had everything but a quarterback right so he you know they were like they wouldn't have won without him but like if aaron rogers would have gone there they would have won if russell wilson the time went there, they might have won. Not this Russell Wilson. I live in Denver, Ian. I don't know. No, he has no line. He has no line.
Starting point is 01:48:52 He has no line. He has no line. He has no line. He's not as good as he seems. All right, all right, all right. Maybe I'm done. Or arm. He's just fascinating.
Starting point is 01:49:00 It's so weird. All he is mentally and physically, he's been in the nfl now officially longer than he wasn't in the nfl yeah in his life most of his life it was like what was it like two weeks ago yeah two weeks yeah they did the math on it yeah people holy cow average career is two years like in the nfl he's been it for 24 or something an insane amount of time like single-handedly bringing the average up just by sticking around oh yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean well he'll be in games with like 35 like what game was it the other the other day he was in a game and they were like the punter came on
Starting point is 01:49:37 the field and they were like the only other 40 year old on the field besides tom brady and tom brady's 45 yeah he's he's older than a lot of the coaches yeah it's a lot of the coaches that's astonishing i never i guess i never thought about this shit in football this isn't baseball yeah or even like tennis or golf or something like that he's playing football even baseball you're like nolan ryan was like 45 right and that was it was insane crazy there's a but what's weird about this is there's and there's also like he's doing all this you would think it would be heroic there's this and it is to an extent but there's this darkness to it that's what i mean
Starting point is 01:50:14 that's why he's so crazy it doesn't feel like it's coming from a good place and it's not just a lot more he doesn't know what else to do yeah well and i feel like people weren't really rooting like the patriots were such overdogs and then he was kind of trumpy and then yeah like i just like no one's like rooting it's not like oh you're defying the odds it's like nobody ever thought the pats were i'm from the west so granted it's different but like i fucking always hated that shit. Oh, yeah. The whole Dynasty era, I hated it. Yeah. I never thought the Pats were cool. I was never into it.
Starting point is 01:50:50 And then like, but always acknowledging that he is a bad... You know what he is also? He's a Californian, which is also weird. Also, it's weird. It's super weird. He's from San Mateo. He's NorCal. He's from the Bay Area.
Starting point is 01:51:03 Yeah. I did not know that. That's so weird. Yeah, he went to Ceramonte, I'm pretty sure. Yeah. Isn's from the Bay Area. I did not know that. That's so weird. Yeah, he went to Ceramonte, I'm pretty sure. Yeah. Isn't that weird? Yeah. You know the parts of the Fablemans, if anyone saw that movie,
Starting point is 01:51:12 where he moves to Northern California and everyone is like an Aryan bully? Like, that squares with Tom Brady for me, but nothing else. I mean, but I've been to San Mateo. It's not Aryan bully territory i mean not now but yeah it's just been such a it's it's yeah it's very similar to the will smith thing and even the connie west thing where he's and maybe it's the the age or what the nature of celebrity is but it's these these things these people who are untouchable and just to see them so flawed is really bizarre yeah amazing great pick san mateo i'm taking i'm going much smaller
Starting point is 01:51:53 with my fourth pick uh just to a lovely just to a lovely sad but beautiful movie i'm taking the banshees of indershurran oh man it's so good it's so good so good i'm blowing it man good i took my actual irish friend with me to see it because i'm like i need a translator yeah you gotta tell me what's going on how was it what did they say about it it's like that huh i mean they were able to give some context about like the civil war and stuff um and like just where like in a shared isn't real but like it's very clearly based on a real like set of islands off the coast of ireland i also know multiple people who saw it and didn't realize it was set in the 1920s they just thought like ireland still looks like that it could be that's
Starting point is 01:52:37 what's kind of good one thing that's good about it is that like it does feel like a timeless story. Outside of time, yeah. Outside of time, yeah. Amazing performances by Brendan Cleason, by Colin Farrell, by Colin Farrell's eyebrows, by that donkey, by the woman. What is his name? The kid. The young, the kid. Oh, Dom. He's in the new, well, I don't want to say what other movie he's in.
Starting point is 01:53:02 He's also in the Irish movie on Netflix that he's really good. It's not Donald Gleeson. It's not Donald's also in the irish movie on netflix that he's not donald gleason it's not it's not donald gleason no it's very very uh very keen yeah he knocks it out of the park very keen and carrie condon is amazing too playing his sister playing siobhan um yeah amazing uh it's fucking beautiful it's gorgeous the movie is gorgeous like the shots are beautiful especially from someone from the pacific northwest who misses green living in la like a lot it's just like a visually stunning movie it's melancholy and sad but not self-indulgent in that feeling to where it like it leaves you what like you feel like you're walking out of the holocaust museum like it's not that kind of feeling like it is it is sad, but it's bizarre and weird. It's funny.
Starting point is 01:53:47 It's, like, incredibly funny. I don't know. I loved every part of it. It was great. I like that Colin Farrell is having himself a renaissance. Like, I always liked him back. Even when I was a, I'm just a dumb kid. I liked the recruit, you know?
Starting point is 01:53:57 Like, I just like Colin Farrell. I thought he was dope. I always did. And I'm like, cool. He's finally getting some shine. Like, Imbrugge was dope. And it's nice to also get, like, Brendan Gleeson and him back together. Because they made Imbrugge dope. he's finally getting some shine like in bruges was dope and it's nice to also get like brendan
Starting point is 01:54:05 gleason and him back together because they made him bruges dope he's like the textbook like tried to make it as a leading man did not quite happen shout out alexander the great the biopic he did i watched it when i tore my knee that was i love when i tore my knee i was on pain pills watching that i was like this is tight that seems like the ideal way to watch that movie. Yeah. Uh, he's like one of those people who like had that career in the odds and then was like, Oh wait, I can just like be a character actor and like do interesting shit.
Starting point is 01:54:34 So like he had banshees this year. Um, after Yang also really good. Um, the penguin, what's that TV show he did? Um, they were like up,
Starting point is 01:54:45 they shot above the Arctic Circle. Colin Farrell, I don't know. You talking about Phone Booth, bro? He did Phone Booth. Yeah, I'm talking about Phone Booth. Also been a good year for donkey content. I don't know if anyone has seen EO, the Polish movie.
Starting point is 01:55:03 No. No, I've seen donkey content. Oh no, I probably should have phrased it that way. Donkey Content. That was the best possible way you could have phrased it. If you look up Romping Donkey Content comes up here. The North Water is the
Starting point is 01:55:18 show he did. That's where he's fucking insane in that. Yeah. It's just cool. It's fun to see. He just seems like, and also people always talk about how he's just cool. He's just fun to around colin farrell so i'm happy for him brendan gleason you gotta watch this movie you geez i know dave was telling me that a while ago i got i i'm max max is going to daycare on mondays starting this monday so i'll have another day to like you know do some stuff i'm not excited i'm not trying to hear that kind of excuse yeah it's an excuse i'm not trying to hear that kind of excuse hosted snl because of that movie also which was
Starting point is 01:55:49 awesome he was tight he did a great sketch about the try guys which like hearing someone explain the try guys and like a thick irish accent yeah it's really the appropriate way maybe my favorite sketch of the year that was so funny it's a food baby she's a fool she was a food baby uh allison time for your fourth and then your final picks the last round a lightning round but not the fourth round okay um for my fourth pick i'm actually also gonna go in music uh one beyonce giselle knows carter uh yes an album this year. So I'm going to put Renaissance on my list. And I really love, like she just has such a great sense
Starting point is 01:56:31 of like how to build her career. Like the past two albums that she released were both like visual, both like really changed the paradigm for like how you can do storytelling and how you can time an album release. And I love that she was like, I'm not going to try to top myself.
Starting point is 01:56:48 I'm purposely not going to do any visual components to start. I'm going to announce it months in release like a normal and do a lead single. And I'm also going to make it like not about me personally, although there's obviously a personal connection
Starting point is 01:57:01 in terms of her uncle and stuff. But I'm just going to make it like such a focused. It is house party disco queer inflected album and it's i mean she's right like she was like we did this in lockdown so that people could dance whenever this is over and like that's how it felt and it's so joyful and like dense like every song has like five or six different things in it that I feel like I discover every time. And like,
Starting point is 01:57:29 she is at the top of the game for a reason. Yeah. It's perfect. It's what Tom Brady could have been. Oh, he's, he's joyful and dense for sure. You know,
Starting point is 01:57:42 when, when bring my silvers dropped, I like definitely did that. Like, Oh my God, it's like a fucking billionaire talking about how she hates her nine to five like whatever and then i was like you know what the whole album works she can do whatever she wants um it just yeah it was so fun i feel like break my soul was like pretty definitively the song of the summer maybe uh always yeah the harry style song but there's also this feeling whenever Beyonce drops
Starting point is 01:58:05 an album where you're like she can't and then you listen you're like it's happening again she did it again oh way way yeah she wasn't like I'm gonna try to do like another visual album or like I'm gonna try to do another like wrenching thing
Starting point is 01:58:21 about my personal life she's like I'm just gonna do something really well that I haven't really tried before. Like, I feel like I can't think of another album of hers that was this, like I'm doing this genre. I'm doing this sound and it works so well. Yeah. It's great.
Starting point is 01:58:37 I haven't, it is dense. I have barely, I've only skimmed the surface of it, but I also haven't, I'm like, when am I going to find, like,
Starting point is 01:58:44 I haven't found myself in Beyonce listening to situations much this year and you should put it on the same playlist as the white lotus season two theme song i feel like they're complimentary complimentary vibes take an ecstasy and just chill at home put it on that spotify playlist and send it to dana again all right have you have you retried to give it to her now that you guys are married? You should just send it to her again and be like, huh? Check your inbox. She doesn't deserve it now. And Allison, your final pick. I'm going to pick the TV show that surprised me the most this year, which is Andor.
Starting point is 01:59:16 Damn it! Oh, shit! I was like, she might take Banjo-The-Finnish-Hero, but she won't take Andor. That was my thinking. And I don't know why I thought that. It was a gamble. I knew it was a gamble at the time. Go on.
Starting point is 01:59:27 But you're a betting man. I'm a betting man. Star Wars things to me, I'm either completely indifferent to, or they're my favorite thing I've ever seen in my life. Yeah. Empire Strikes Back, best movie ever. Last Jedi, fuck the haters. Amazing movie.
Starting point is 01:59:41 Yes. Give me all of them. Give me all of them. And I don't really care that much about the mandalorian like not to discredit it at all but like it's just not my thing and then like i watched andor and was like oh my god like because diego luna is icy that dude is ice water it's so good yeah it's uh scars guardarsgård in it too. Fucking amazing. It's just a great TV show that happens to be in Star Wars. But actually, that's not true.
Starting point is 02:00:11 Because it uses all the great things about Star Wars. It doesn't happen to be in Star Wars. It uses all those amazing things that you love about Star Wars. And it's a great story. The Book of Boba Fett happened. And I couldn't have given less of a fuck. And I was a massive Star Wars nerd growing up, and I still love it. The Obi-Wan show was terrible.
Starting point is 02:00:30 Terrible? Yeah. I don't even know. I didn't even know there was an Obi-Wan show. Oh, my God. They have, like, a baby Princess Leia in it who's doing, like, cutesy, spunky little girl shit, and it's terrible. I like them all. I love it.
Starting point is 02:00:44 Andor's like, I don't know any of these characters but it made me care about them it has like serious ideas but it's also fun it looks incredible like I was so impressed and Tony Gilroy is a legend we love Michael
Starting point is 02:01:00 Clayton we love Jason Bourne but it was so cool to watch someone like walk into Star Wars and like make it their own. But also it's recognizably Star Wars. I was like so blown away. Yeah. Gilroy is fun to say too. Excellent pick.
Starting point is 02:01:13 Gilroy. Also, my fun fact while I'm dropping fun facts. The man is somehow not British, which makes no sense if you watch. Really? He's American and his brothers are American. Nice. Also, his brother is Dan Gilroy, who made like Nightcrawler with Jake Gyllenhaal. Gilroy. if you watch. Really? He's American and his brothers are American. Nice. Also, his brother is Dan Gilroy
Starting point is 02:01:27 who made like Nightcrawler with Jake Gyllenhaal. Gilroy. Chalk it up for the red, white and blue. That I believe was made by an American. Extremely.
Starting point is 02:01:34 Yeah. I didn't know. I thought I would have bet anything he was British or like maybe Welsh. And then I listened to him on the podcast where you pretend
Starting point is 02:01:42 to be Marc Maron. That's right. And I was like, what the hell? Who are what the hell who are your guys yeah that's when we found out he was American I'm the garage you taking Andor frees me up to take
Starting point is 02:01:57 for maybe the third year in a row although I can't keep track let us know in the comments like and subscribe smash those buttons I'm dumb Reservation Dogs I'm taking it again oh yeah yeah it's on my list speaking of did it again they followed it up you were like i don't know if they can do it and they fucking did it it's getting less it's getting less funny but more that's fine though it's fine yeah i'm fine it didn't have to be that funny like i remember watching the first season it was way funnier than i needed or expected it to be and it was great but but just like i mean fucking i mean like
Starting point is 02:02:29 it's not to me to talk about how that's an important show blah blah blah whatever like it and it is but like it's also just so fucking good like so many great performances amazing storylines just like this world of like magical realism that happens it's like just like i just love that shit anyway so like the fact that there's a show doing that like i don't know it does everything for me i really love that show it's really running with the atlanta thing of like anything could happen and you could follow any number of threads and you're just kind of willing to let the show do whatever like all my favorite episodes this season were like the one where um all the nurses go to the conference that's like their mom yeah that was my favorite too that was my favorite they're dancing to the brandy song and everything yeah or when um amber
Starting point is 02:03:15 mid thunder shows up and she's like the the like seminar leader and she just like does that character and like i don't think we'll ever see that character again but it was great to hang out with her they use bobby lee half naked which is just a great comedic tool no yeah that show's amazing oh yeah there's so the watch reservation dogs if you haven't seen real um david time for your final pick can i do we're gonna have an honorable mention after. For sure. Because there's something I wanted to do, but then this one I just have to.
Starting point is 02:03:51 I'm taking the goofy movie episode of Atlanta. Yeah. I am so behind on stuff. Like, it's hard to explain because I talk about that movie a lot. And like... You do. But the themes of it...
Starting point is 02:04:04 There's just a lot there. And like, also that just episode of television, as far as what TV could be was really exciting. But that specific episode just really was fucking amazing. It's like, I don't really watch a lot of episodes of television over again. You know what I mean? Like very rarely will i watch it up even if i'm like oh that was great then that's kind of it but like fuck man and the format of it and just like and just the world that it depicted was is just really really amazing
Starting point is 02:04:37 yeah jenna wortham of the new york times talking head yeah it man yeah it was amazing amazing yeah the fact that i mean that what i mean it's like speaking of like what you can do with television just that shows that's what i mean it's like you're like oh this was like a whole other whole other thing yes it's like their second to last episode like ever right yeah and they were just like we're just gonna go do this yeah we're gonna go do this and you're like uh hot corner your final pick uh last pick it just really did it right for me this year was snl can i pick snl oh i really enjoyed it this year i really really liked i'm not thrilled when some of the mains like step out but letting people shine on the show, like James Austin Johnson or
Starting point is 02:05:29 Andrew Dibukes. Sarah Sherman? Yeah, Sarah Sherman. It's so fun to see... You at that party? Yeah. It's such a ridiculous party. But I don't know. It just really did it for me this year. Because I've, like everybody, I'm sure i've gone through periods of where i couldn't stand snl but this year i loved pretty much all of it and i also felt really old watching it in a fun way where i didn't know i bet i knew a third of the musical guests there was a couple hosts i didn't even know and it's like holy buckets yeah but it's
Starting point is 02:05:59 still fun to watch finding out keenan has shooters all that it was just an interesting year in general she does not believe me i'm like it happened how he was moving at that party i'm telling you it happens me and sean were you yeah you were when we saw him moving through the crowd it was like he did that shit yeah i had a piece about snl when elon hosted and was kind of like i feel like the show is obviously in this weird like what are we without trump moment, I feel like the show is obviously in this weird, like, what are we without Trump moment. But I feel like for the most part,
Starting point is 02:06:29 with like Elon's stunt casting aside, it's actually been really fun to see the show just like, we're not just going to do impressions all the time. We're actually going to try to be funny and weird and experimental. And like the fact that they cast Sarah Sherman, I remember I heard about that before it happened and was like, what? She fun to watch she's amazing so fun to watch i i'm just like doing her thing like she's not modulating it at all no it it's great i remember back when she was sarah squirm yeah sarah squirm yeah i um yeah i fully enjoy it good Good pick. Good pick.
Starting point is 02:07:06 Marissa, what do you pick? All Fantasy Everything, the podcast. Oh, thank you, Marissa. That's so nice. Marissa's not here. She's producing From Afar while she records another episode because she's amazingly talented. To recap,
Starting point is 02:07:16 Allison, you went first. You took Top Gun Maverick, The Rehearsal, Tar, Beyonce's Renaissance album, and Andor. I went second. I took Don't Worry Darling
Starting point is 02:07:26 not the movie just everything happening around it The White Lotus theme song Harry's House by Harry Styles The Bunchies of Innocent and Reservation Dogs Dave you went third you took The Slap
Starting point is 02:07:36 Kanye West Jackass Forever Tom Brady and the Goofy Movie episode of Atlanta Sean you went last you took Elon Musk's buying Twitter, House of the Dragon, Severance, Kate Bush's running up that
Starting point is 02:07:50 hill renaissance of the song, and then Saturday Night Live. We left a lot of amazing stuff on the board. I want to say my honorable last mention. I was going to take The Woman King. It was really close between those two. And this fool. I never made it to see it. I'm very excited to see it eventually.
Starting point is 02:08:05 As an African person, it was everything I wanted Wakanda Forever to be. That it wasn't. Dana did a noble blood about that woman. That king. Oh, really? John Boyega? She did it about John Boyega.
Starting point is 02:08:21 It was a new format change. The Boyega is mine. But no, yeah, all kinds of stuff, her loss drake and 21 savage i listen to that a lot i don't relate to any of it but i listen to it yeah the ysl indictment yeah i got uh rrr didn't any of you see that oh no but i want to i know it's on netflix best movie experience um i think they're doing some like theater stuff here in LA. I would, if you can, I would do it. Like it was the craziest theater experience I have had since the pandemic started. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:53 People were losing their shit. Moto Mommy by Rosalia was a sick album. Barbarian was fantastic. I loved Barbarian. It was so fun. The Northmen, just the fucking, the lats in the Northmen. Avatar, The Way of Water.
Starting point is 02:09:14 I still haven't seen it. Oh, that was last year. Everything, everywhere at all. I got that. Oh yeah, for sure. The Fablemans, I i fucking loved i was gonna actually watch that tonight because they have it on you can rent it i really i really enjoyed it what about taylor swift huh midnight yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah who know yeah who knew uh winning time
Starting point is 02:09:41 was this year and i like i just like basketball i like austin butler and elvis but i didn't like elvis but i liked him and elvis a lot he was at that party no big deal nice i got in a lot of trouble for not liking this as much as everyone else when it first came out but the bear i think should be acknowledged oh yeah definitely acknowledge the bear i didn't maybe i didn't get it i didn't like it as much as everybody else when it came out either okay we're we're in agreement. What about the patient? Is that the one with Donald Gleeson and
Starting point is 02:10:10 Steve Carell? That's the patient, right? There was a great Gleeson power moment in the fall where it was like the patient Banshees and then the other Gleeson brother is in Bad Sisters and they were like all united. Yeah. What a fun little family, huh?
Starting point is 02:10:26 What a fun little family, the Gleasons. Oh, yeah. Well, hey, listen, we want to hear what you liked this year. Hit us up at AllFantasyPod on Twitter, AllFantasyPodcast at gmail.com. Shout out to everyone on the AFE Patreon. Thank you for holding us down on the AFE Shaslackity, the AFE Subreddit.
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