All Fantasy Everything - Nepotism (w/ Julian McCullough, Sean O'Connor, and Kara Klenk)

Episode Date: March 7, 2019

It's not what you know, it's who you know, unless WHAT you know, is that your dad is the President of Disney or whatever. With Sean and David on the road, King Karms welcomes comedians Kara K...lenk, Sean O'Connor and Julian McCullough into the studio to draft Nepotism. Episode Guests:Kara Klenk @karaklenk IG: @karaklenkSean O'Connor @seanoconnz IG: @seanoconnzJulian McCullough @julezmac IG: @julianmcculloughSupport the show! Join the All Fantasy Everything Patreon for exclusive mailbag and movie watch-a-long episodes. Check it all out at www.patreon.com/AllFantasy.Rate All Fantasy Everything 5-stars on Apple Podcasts.Decide the winner on the All Fantasy Everything Twitter poll @AllFantasyPodMerch! T-Shirts! Sweaters! Stickers! Mugs! Deck yourself out in some goods at www.teepublic.com/user/allfantasyeverythingFollow the Good Vibes Gang on social media: Ian Karmel @IanKarmel IG: @IanKarmelSean Jordan @SeanSJordan IG: @SeancougarmelonJordanDavid Gborie @Thegissilent IG: @Coolguyjokes87Show Email: allfantasypodcast@gmail.comSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a HeadGum Podcast. Welcome to another brand new episode of All Fantasy Everything, the podcast that is finally back in the studio after it feels like a three to four year hiatus. Marissa, when was the last time we were back in here? I don't know, maybe a month ago? It was like a month ago, says Marissa. She's not on the mic. That was 2017.
Starting point is 00:00:44 It was 2017. We are recording this much in advance. We're actually recording this before the first episode we ever did, which you were also on. Yes, I was on the pilot. It's good to be back. I hope to be on many more episodes. I think you might be on several times between now and then. Is it going to get picked up?
Starting point is 00:00:59 We got our fingers crossed. We got our fingers crossed. We've done about 115 pilot episodes so far. And then we're hoping HeadGum picks us up at some point. I am Sean Jordan O'Connor. Yeah, Sean Jordan O'Connor. Oh, Ollie Kickflip. Sean Jordan Mellon O'Connor.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Yeah. Then, of course, there's Sean O'Connor. Hey. Sean O'Connor's on Twitter. Hell yeah. And what is it on Instagram again? Sean O'Connor's. Sean O'Connor's. Oh, all media. Sean O'Connor's. Letterbox Hell yeah. And what is it on Instagram again? Sean O'Khan's. Sean O'Khan's.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Oh, all media. Sean O'Khan's. Letterboxd. It's a cross-platform. On there. Never used it to get hired. Look it up. Pinterest.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Yeah, Pinterest. Etsy. Etsy for sure. Buy my nipple dollies. Doilies. Doilies. Okay, okay. Like a nipple doll to move nipples around your chest.
Starting point is 00:01:43 To move my nipples around my chest. That's how Hollywood I am, babe. Yeah. Oh, you got to have mobile nipples in 2019. Cole Sprouse? Dylan Sprouse? They're fucking fully mobile nippled. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Yeah. Sometimes they're just in his belly button if you've seen Riverdale. They're cold. Yeah. Yeah. Man, R.I.P. Luke Perry. Yeah, I was just going to say, speaking of Riverdale.
Starting point is 00:02:02 I assume two years from now. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Assume two years. He'll probably die at that point. I did not see that. I did not see Luke Perry coming or going, as it were.
Starting point is 00:02:13 At all. It was him. No one did. Who would have seen that? It's a massive stroke. Him today. That's a good point. Luke, who sees that and goes, what are you going to do?
Starting point is 00:02:21 But it was. You know what? He did look unhealthy. Luke Perry and the guy from Prodigy died on the same day. The same day. Who's going to be the third? Who would be? Who is that class of celebrity?
Starting point is 00:02:37 It feels the 90s. What did he die of? A block rockin' beat? A bitch smacked him up. A bitch smacked him up. I thought it was a block rock beat a bitch smacked him up i thought it was gonna be a block rocking beat it finally hit wait is that prodigy i don't know back with a block rocking beat that's uh chemical brothers okay yeah prodigy was fire starter smack my bitch yeah right cool haircut i was so into prodigy when I was of age. Yeah. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:03:06 I remember listening to them for the first time when I was 11. I was like, I wish I knew what ecstasy was. Yeah. I need it now. It seems awful. And I want it. Remember the Smack My Bitch Up video? They subverted expectations because it was all a point of view of this person doing drugs
Starting point is 00:03:24 and having sex and getting into fights. And at the end, it was a woman. Oh. I did not get that from that song. Yeah. It was a woman. It's why Prodigy got a Presidential Freedom Award from Bill Clinton. That was called Nanette.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Hannah Gadsby in L.A. right now. Oh, yeah. Working out the new show. Over at the old Dynasty Typewriter, right? Trimming all the jokes. There were jokes. There were jokes. I'll go down.
Starting point is 00:03:55 I'm not strenuous here. Do you watch? No, I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it yet. But in Nanette, there were like eight jokes up front. Yeah, there were jokes in Nanette. There were jokes. It was a very good one-woman show. I'm a strident Nanette defender. Oh, my God. But I still love the jokes. Yeah, there were jokes in Nanette. There were jokes. It was a very good one-woman joke. I'm
Starting point is 00:04:06 a strident Nanette defender. But I still love the jokes. I'm here for every joke. I have four stab wounds on my body from defending Nanette at the comedy store. At the comedy store. I walk in, I see Joe Rogan on stage and I'm like, Nanette was great!
Starting point is 00:04:24 You wear all your Nanette merch. Yeah. I wear just like a velvet jacket. I had no problem with that special. I didn't either. I was like, wait, why is everybody mad? I really didn't think it would become as big of a, I just thought it was,
Starting point is 00:04:39 I didn't think it was worth the fighting on either side. It was more one woman showy than your typical standup special. That makes me so mad. Sandler's last special wasn't like a typical special, and I thought that was awesome. Nobody's doing typical specials anymore. You can't do typical specials anymore. They're boring, and no one watches them.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Oh, shit. I just put out my special, typical special. Oh, you fucked up. Oh, wait. But is that an angle? No, it's like straight up a typical special. Oh, no. It really is. There's No, it's like straight up a typical special. It really is. There's a brick wall that he's standing in front of.
Starting point is 00:05:09 I wear a black leather outfit. He's got new balances he keeps showing with his jeans going like, oh, what am I, a high-powered business guy? It actually sounds pretty good, though, actually. Oh, fuck. Oh, also, I don't know. If the prodigy guy, did he take his own life? I think he did. Oh, sorry about Did he take his own life I think he did
Starting point is 00:05:25 Oh sorry about the jokes earlier Yeah I think he did Sorry about the jokes earlier That's why you never ask You never ask How someone died You never ask Luke Perry though
Starting point is 00:05:33 A stroke He's young He's like 50 right I didn't see him coming 52 52 years old That's young He's on Riverdale right now
Starting point is 00:05:41 I know They were still filming Not anymore He's not on He's no longer on Riverdale With this hei know. They were still filming. Not anymore. He's not on it. He's no longer on Riverdale. With this heiress, he will no longer be on Riverdale. They've suspended production,
Starting point is 00:05:47 I read today. This might be a bit morbid, but as soon as I read the news, I emailed my agent. I was like, I'm perfect to play Archie's dad. No, you know who's going to do it. I don't know if they're recasting.
Starting point is 00:05:57 I don't know. Do you know who they've recasted? They've already, Jussie Smollett. No. Good guess. Topical. If he's topical now.
Starting point is 00:06:04 It's got to be true because he's the one that made the announcement. He said he was putting it out himself. All topical everything. That's the new podcast. We don't even draft anything. We're just going over the news. We're like Mort Saul. We just come out here with a newspaper and whatever the headlines are, we put it on two cents.
Starting point is 00:06:22 By all accounts, the cast said he was a sweetheart and a wonderful guy so it's not drugs or anything it must i mean apparently all he would ever eat was steak tartar apparently no oh my brother but i don't know what else gives you a stroke because i'm doing that now my brother is in his residency for neurology and he says that the most the thing that causes the most like young strokes that he sees is CrossFit. Really? And I'm not saying that Luke Perry was a CrossFit person, but my brother was like, the patients that I see that are in their 30s and 40s having strokes when they shouldn't be, it's because of CrossFit.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Lifting too much weight. You know how super excited I was that you said it was exercise? Yeah. That did a lot. I didn't do something. That is awesome. I just want to let everyone know who's listening, when I have a stroke, which I will,
Starting point is 00:07:08 it wasn't CrossFit. I thought you were going to say something that was going to break my heart, like, the number one cause is vintage T-shirts. It's like being fat and getting mad on Twitter. It's Twitter, yeah. Well, RIP to two true kings who left us too soon. I mean, two pimps.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Yeah. They're hanging out with St. Peter tonight. Heaven just got a lot cooler. Yeah. I didn't know this was such a religious podcast. It just gained two more Mohawks, but they're all in one of the guy's heads. That's the fun part of it. Sean, what do you got coming up?
Starting point is 00:07:47 Where can people come see what you're doing? Is the podcast over? No, we do plugs up front so people don't tune out. Oh, that's smart. You gotta crack the crab if you want the meat, baby. Julian McCullough, right? I'm saying that right?
Starting point is 00:08:02 Julian McCullough and I have a podcast saying that right? Yes, correct. Julian McCullough. And I have a podcast coming out on Comic Central Podcasts in April. Oh, that's beautiful. And we're not allowed to talk about what it's about or say the name, but we do have it and it will be out. It's a mind-amending after show. Here's a fun game. Why don't you listen to this episode? If you're already listening,
Starting point is 00:08:20 keep listening. Keep listening. And see if you can find out what we have in common that the show might be about. Besides future strokes. It's about being a handsome boy. It's about being a very handsome boy with fun ideas. Okay. Is that what it's about? Okay, fine. It's called Bad Posture with Truly
Starting point is 00:08:35 Good Chances. We record it at a dine-in Arby's. Our balls both hang down to our knees. It's called long balls. But the poster is us taking golf swings. Back-to-back jacks.
Starting point is 00:08:54 But yeah, we're excited. We get to work together. Well, that's wonderful. So keep a lookout on. May to April is all we know. It's going to be great, though. That's very exciting. What else do they have on there?
Starting point is 00:09:04 They don't got much, right? They got Anthony Jeselnik. Yeah. Right? And that's it. Yeah. After you listen to every episode. It's about time they had two ladies.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Yeah. After you listen to every episode of All Fantasy, everything. They're bringing you guys in. They're bringing you in. Yeah. Yes. Listen to every episode of All Fantasy. Of AFV and then everything on HeadGum.
Starting point is 00:09:21 And then after that. Yeah. Come over to Comedy Central. We're new. We're young. We're young. We're corporate. Yeah. It's good to be corporate.
Starting point is 00:09:28 It's good to be corporate. Oh my God. I have to wear a tie to do the podcast. Oh my God. Yeah. I don't have anything funny, man. I wish I did though. Me neither.
Starting point is 00:09:37 I wish I did. What is the next big show for that? Because it was Workaholics, then corporate is the next one. Well, the other two is really good. HR department. Like what are they oh yeah the other two oh it keeps getting more yeah the other two is great i really like the other two and it got a second season oh i didn't even know that was on comedy central yeah it's
Starting point is 00:09:52 like they paired it with broad city because broad city's on its way out right yeah i gotta watch that by that david spade show you know yeah that's the big one that is the big one that's the big one oh it's gonna be huge he could have been david. That's the big one. Oh, it's going to be huge. He could have been, David Spade's name is so similar to James Spader, and he could have played James Spader in every movie that James Spader was in in the 80s. They could have. It's so weird. Yeah. There's something about that name that makes you an aloof dick.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Well, David is Spade, but James is Spader, and that's why he got it. That's why he got the role. He's just a little bit. Just a little bit more. And they were like, can you just give it a little more? And he was like, I gave it everything I had. I think I can help you guys out. It creeped everyone out just a little bit more. I'm even spader.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Cara Clank in the studio. Hello. At Cara Clank on Twitter. Playing the role of David Borey today. Yo. You have to say yo real loud like perfect absolutely uh there's a k on kara and a k on clank it's k's everywhere baby as far as i can see here with those c's what's your middle name katherine no it's no it's rachel okay everybody asked me that um yeah kara clank everywhere Instagram Twitter LinkedIn the whole jam
Starting point is 00:11:05 just Cara Clank though not Cara Clank everywhere not Cara Clank everywhere not Cara Clank everywhere that makes me sound like a travel host that does sound like it does like
Starting point is 00:11:12 like I'm a mogul yeah exactly it's Cara Clank worldwide yeah yeah yeah I'm a ditty basically yeah what do you got coming up
Starting point is 00:11:23 where can people see you I got a couple things I got I couple things I got I have my first album is dropping on Friday yes I don't know when this episode comes out
Starting point is 00:11:30 but it comes out Thursday it's perfect you guys can preorder it right now that helps me on Friday to be on the iTunes charts for like a day
Starting point is 00:11:38 until Jim Gaffigan's albums take over again absolutely every it's always him and then Little Dicky was on the charts when I put my album out
Starting point is 00:11:46 and I was like, well, fuck. Yeah, you guys have to have some crossover. Right, yeah. Me and Little Dicky, it's all about the same stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Like we're Jewish, we like weed, we're friends with Snoop Dogg. It's a lot of the same, yeah. Yeah, no, you are kind of Big Dicky. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Big Carhartt, Little Dicky. So what's your album called? The album's called Undefeated. Beautiful. And it's available for pre-order on iTunes, and it drops on March 8th. Please, guys, support me. I'm having a baby in April, and I need the money.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Do it. Which is also why Jim Gaffigan puts out so many albums. That's true, right? He's got a fuck ton of kids. This is the last pre-baby material. Yeah. Buy it up. The next album, probably going to have a couple baby jokes on it.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Yeah, I've been defeated. Yeah. Literally, the joke is a tag. The name of the album is a tag of one of my jokes where I talk about how I've never been pregnant, and I'm like, I'm undefeated. Ironically, it took so long to come out that I am now fully almost at a gestational climax. It literally takes less time to make a human than an album. You finally met your butt.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Yeah, the artwork took a long time. Jared is your Buster Douglas. Hell yeah. Because he busted her Douglas? No, because he beat Mike Tyson. Is that dirty? Is that too dirty? Am I being dirty?
Starting point is 00:13:07 Am I crossing a line here? Douglas is the name of Nana Gadsby's new album, too. Really? This is full fucking circle. Is that true? Yeah, it's called Douglas, her new special. Why? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Because she fought Buster Douglas. That's crazy. She's who Buster Douglas fought next. And then she beat him. And then she beat him. And then she beat him. Also, I mean,
Starting point is 00:13:30 she would be so funny if she wore a Seinfeld outfit. She would be so great. White shoes and a button down shirt and a
Starting point is 00:13:39 blazer. Oh, my God. Yeah. And she just did jokes. Just like straight up. Like, here you go, motherfuckers. That'd be great. Spaghetti, it God. Yeah. And she just did jokes. Yeah. Just like straight up observational humor.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Yeah. That'd be great. Oh, spaghetti. It all sticks together. How many is one spaghetti? I don't know. Is that a thing? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Actually, Marissa, please delete that because that's gold. One of us can use that. Maybe we could do custody. If You Build It. Yeah. If You Build It is a show I run in New York. It's a sporadic show in L build it. Yeah. If you build it as a show, I run in New York. Uh, it's, it's a sporadic show in LA. Now I have a show at Bar Lubitsch in West Hollywood called better half comedy
Starting point is 00:14:11 that I run with my husband, Jared Logan, who you guys all know. And, uh, yeah, that's it. That's all I got going on.
Starting point is 00:14:17 That's fantastic. So check out the, check out the album is undefeated. Yes. You can preorder it now and you don't have to wait long cause it'll be out. It'll be out the next day. It'll be out midnight tonight. So go get it right now. Julian McCullough
Starting point is 00:14:28 in the studio for the first time. Hello. Hell yeah, man. What's up? How are you? I'm pretty good. I've been having fun so far. I can't believe we still get to do this. I know. I thought it would be over by now. The podcast? Yes. There's still about two hours left. Oh my god. That's a wild one. That's what we forgot
Starting point is 00:14:44 to tell you. Hey, barn. It's a real crock pot of a listen. It's Jules Mac on Twitter? Jules Mac. I've explained this elsewhere. I joined Twitter at Sean's Behest in 2008. Oh, yeah. And his was Sean O'Khan's with a Z, so I thought we were all doing that.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Yeah. Now he's in there? He's a frigging biter. And then I made a Jules Mac and realized no one is doing that. It was just the two of you. Just us two. Is that what the podcast was about? Yeah, by the way, did not catch on.
Starting point is 00:15:15 There was a month where Julian was going up on stage as Jules McCullough, and it did not. I don't remember that. You don't remember going up as Jules McCullough? Are you joking? I am. Thank God because I was like
Starting point is 00:15:30 I wasn't that drunk. Yeah, I feel like Jules pulls sleeves up on shirts they shouldn't have their sleeves pulled up. Oh, yeah. So does Julian. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Okay, well that's a crossover. Sometimes they don't come down over all the mounds of, you know, nothing. The biceps. Yeah, at Jules Mac. Julia McCullough on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:15:47 It's my full name. I fixed it for Instagram. That's perfect. Yeah, I'm not Cara Clank everywhere. I'm Jules Mac. Here, I'm Julia McCullough over there. Julia McCullough over there. It's a little bit of a different experience.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Yeah. It's a little more formal over on Instagram. And Pinterest, I still don't know how to, I forgot my password. You got to get on there, man. I know. You got to get on there. It's a real good place to go. Twitter's kind of like Puntrist.
Starting point is 00:16:05 It's like just fucking puns. I wish it was Puntrist. It used to be. Yeah. It used to be. Now it's Punditrist. Yeah, there we go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Yeah. I kept one in the chamber. I always keep one in the chamber. I don't let it use them all awake. I have a tour date. I have one tour date. Please tell the people. April 18 to 20, I'll be at a comics in Mohegan Sun Casino in Connecticut.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Oh, there you are. That's beautiful. My home state. It's a great casino. And that's the same month that my podcast with Sean comes out. That's not named. Synergy. It has a name.
Starting point is 00:16:34 We can't save any. Yes, it's true. It's very weird that they put a gag order on it. But I guess they know the best time to announce it. To announce it. To build the hype. They want it to pop. Oh, yeah. It's got to pop. It's got to pop. It's wanted to to pop oh yeah you gotta pop
Starting point is 00:16:46 it's gotta pop you're gonna be a pop cast isn't there a channel now what pop yep Greek is on pop oh okay
Starting point is 00:16:53 yeah pop I was like why do I know that pop is the old TV guide channel I think for real yeah and now they do actual programming
Starting point is 00:17:01 they have original programming they have that and a Pac-1 show about PR Pac on Flack it's called Flack we ever see it we always see the commercial we're like Pac on Flack actual programming. They have original programming. They have that and a Pac-1 show about PR. Pac-on-Flack. It's called Flack. Black-on-Pack. We always see the commercial
Starting point is 00:17:08 and we're like, Pac-on-Flack. And it's this, it's cheap. That sounds like a Dr. Seuss book. It's bad. It looks bad.
Starting point is 00:17:13 I don't know. Maybe it's good. Pac-on-Flack is very whack. It looks whack. I will say at the TCA's, I read this online. Yeah. Industry.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Industry talk. This is kind of industry. Not in a book. But the person who runs Pop but the person who runs pop the person who runs pop said flack is pop's breaking bad
Starting point is 00:17:30 whoa okay damn that's the appropriate response yeah does that mean I'll catch up on it
Starting point is 00:17:38 in six years yeah I can seriously doubt it based off the commercials but okay I was watching that 2000s documentary on Netflix. CMN 180s, 92.
Starting point is 00:17:51 And so I saw this little snippet where Vince Gilligan is talking about Breaking Bad. And he's like, I don't know, man. I was like turning 40. I didn't know what I was going to do. I had this dumb idea. I was lost. I was adrift. And I'm like, I'm 40.
Starting point is 00:18:04 And I don't have Breaking Bad in my back pocketrift. And I'm like, I'm 40. Oh no. And I don't have Breaking Bad in my back pocket. He's acting like he was like, destitute. My dumb idea
Starting point is 00:18:10 is the lid of a salsa jar that turns into a salsa bowl and his is one of the greatest shows of all time. Yeah, I mean, but that's the thing. But the money's the same.
Starting point is 00:18:18 We all have a Breaking Bad in us. And some of them are TV shows and other things are like, I want Legos that are made of cookies. Yeah. And then you can eat them.
Starting point is 00:18:29 That's a great idea. That's pretty good. Yeah. I would settle even for like a fondant or a marzipan Lego. Yeah. I just want to be able to eat the Legos. Edible Legos. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:39 So then you could say, Eggo my Legos. Yeah, finally. And you could confuse kids even more. More kids will be eating plastic Legos. And that's how we solve the overpopulation crisis. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Then all of a sudden, it's fine to eat whale. Which is the goal we all have.
Starting point is 00:18:56 I have been waiting for someone to just say, it is okay to eat whale. I'm first in line. We've been saving whales my whole life. Ever since I came out of the womb. Save the whale. Save the whale. Save the whales. You know, people in the 1800s've been saving whales my whole life. Ever since I came out of the womb, save the whales, save the whales, save the whales. You know, people in the 1800s got to eat whale whenever they want. Meanwhile, I've never had whale or even had it offered. Well, I don't know if it's whenever they want.
Starting point is 00:19:13 Also, they had to go get the whale themselves. I'll go get a whale. I'll get a whale. Go get a ship with a bunch of my friends to kill a killer whale. Have you ever seen paintings of whale hunting from the 1800s? It's the most terrifying looking thing. They're out on like a fucking kayak with spears. And they're like, let's get this whale.
Starting point is 00:19:31 I'm like, I would rather, I don't know. And then they'll harpoon it and then get dragged behind the whale. Now it's mad. Which is fun. Now it's just mad. It's like a little bit of a jet skiing adventure. And then once you get it, I know you got to cut it up, but I just want to take a bite of the skin. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:47 That's all I want. Wait, can't you eat it in Iceland? Don't they eat it in Iceland? Maybe you can eat it in Iceland. And it's supposed to be very like. Delicious. It's all fat. Like tough and yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:58 I heard, I know puffin you can eat in Iceland. Oh. Yeah. That's too cute to eat. You want to eat a cute little penguin? Yeah. Get to Iceland? They show you You want to eat a cute little penguin? Yeah. Get to Iceland? They show you a YouTube video of the puffin running around.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Oh, just getting into adventures? Sean, what kind of fucked up stuff are you watching? You know, Bork videos? Oh, that's like a- Enter the dark. That's like in Tokyo. They got the Red Panda Cafe where you get to- You just go eat a red panda?
Starting point is 00:20:21 It's called Sad Panda. Yeah, it's sad. Oh, God, I forgot. So, happy panda, that's not a chain anywhere, right? No. Okay, growing up in Beaverton, Oregon, there was Panda Express, which is everywhere, and then there was a place called Happy Panda, which was just a local Chinese place, and I've always confused the two.
Starting point is 00:20:42 So, a joke I thought I was making that had broad appeal is going to appeal to maybe my mom. Who's actually my mom. But honestly, when I hear happy panda, unfortunately, I do think Chinese food. Yeah, yeah. So I get it. You get it. I was thinking massage parlor wink wink.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Oh, Robert Kraft's situation. Oh, yeah. Who hasn't, at the end of the massage, got a happy panda? That is a cute name for a handjob. I guess you could say happy hand-a. Happy hand-a. Oh, all right.
Starting point is 00:21:09 See? I feel like the cops would put that together. I don't know. They're talking to someone about a code bus. So go see your Mahegan son in Connecticut
Starting point is 00:21:19 on, when was that? April 18th at 20. April 18th at 20. And listen to our Untitled podcast in April. Yeah, find it on channel, we don't know, at time and date. No, we can say at 20. April 18th at 20. And listen to our untitled podcast in April. Yeah, find it on channel we don't know at time and date
Starting point is 00:21:28 No, we can say the channel. No, no, no, Comedy Central, but TBD. 420, when you're a Mohegan Sun, Sean and I
Starting point is 00:21:34 are going to be at Florida State University. We're on the football team this year. Yeah, we're on the football team. We start our early workouts. Wow. It's going to be pretty fun.
Starting point is 00:21:43 It's going to be fun. Are you going to share a uniform and be an offensive lineman? We're all thinking. That's the plan. It's going to be pretty fun. It's going to be fun. Are you going to share a uniform and be an offensive lineman? We're all thinking. That's the plan. That's the best case scenario. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:51 It's that or just a series of misadventures until we get caught in the coach's office stealing plays. You know? Yeah. That's great. The possibilities are endless. I am excited to see how Tallahassee, Florida reacts to our comedic stylings. I know.
Starting point is 00:22:03 I'm really excited to do a 30 minute q a after the show wait it's you two doing stand-up and then a 30 minute q a oh my god that's amazing i hope people have questions about the ted gondi documentary this is a sean this is a genuine question i'm not fucking with you can you remember your jokes oh hell yeah okay oh i've been writing non-stop oh you're doing new stuff oh hell yeah for florida state my old stuff ain't gonna play i gotta dumb it down or smarten it up i'm not sure one or the other i don't know what kind of kids go there yeah it's gonna be kids though right i think so i do know mia khalifa went there oh nice yeah the porn star porn star porn star. Did she use her degree? Oh, she's out of the game?
Starting point is 00:22:46 No, she is now, I think, a sports- Sports commentator. Yeah, a sports commentator now. Oh, wow. Yeah. That's how I know her. A crossover. I'm just a huge fan of her commentary on sports.
Starting point is 00:22:56 Yeah. Enough athletes slid into her DMs that she just sort of slid into their industry. Yeah. Wow. That's how I would start the press release. That's pretty good. Thank you very much. That's a real Cinderella story from the porn industry. Yeah. Wow. That's how I would start the press release. That's pretty good. Thank you very much. That's a real Cinderella story
Starting point is 00:23:06 from the porn world. Yeah. Not that there's anything wrong with sex work. Don't at me. Unless it's to say great album. Really enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:23:16 You know? But none of the porn stuff, thank you. I'm Ian Carmel at Ian Carmel across platform. Ian Carmel on Twitter. Ian Carmel on Instagram. Ian Carmel on Twitter. Ian Carmel on Instagram.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Ian Carmel on Jewish lift. Rideshare program. Congratulations on the IPO. This is also now a big like financial podcast, by the way. We're going to talk about stocks. Is there another Ian Carmel? No, no. There is an Annabelle Carmel who is a health food cookbook author.
Starting point is 00:23:42 And we're not related to her at all. Because my grandfather changed our name from Katz to Carmel. Interesting. Oh, at Ellis Island or something? Well, there's two. Like, his name was very Jewish. His name was Solomon Katz
Starting point is 00:23:54 and he changed it to George Carmel. But also his... It just sounds sweeter. It just sounds better, baby. It also sounds nothing like Solomon Katz. Uh-oh, so far away. But also... You sure he wasn't on the run for murder? Well, his dad, he might have been.
Starting point is 00:24:08 But his dad, so Solomon Katz's dad, deserted him and his mother in Paris when the Nazis invaded. So he didn't want anything to do with the name. That was one of the stories in the goddamn, the Matt Weiner one. What's that show called? Romanoff's. The Romanoff's. That's a plot line.
Starting point is 00:24:26 No shit. Yes. They fucking stole it. That didn't happen to any other Jews. Wait, your grandfather was abandoned by his family? So my grandfather, his dad, so my great-grandfather abandoned my grandfather. And so is my great-grandma, my grandfather, and his brother, and their dad took off. And then the three of them stayed in Paris for the entire occupation. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Yeah. So he was like. In Romanoff's, the dude goes to the States. He makes it. Starts a new family. Left his old family to fend for themselves with the Nazis. Holy shit. Save it for our Romanoff's podcast.
Starting point is 00:24:58 Oh. We don't have a Romanoff's podcast. Romanoff. It's called Beef Romanoff. It's the two of you and Jim Rome. Rome on Rome. But you spell Romanoffs with a Z. What do I got coming up?
Starting point is 00:25:20 If you're listening to this, tomorrow is the beginning of what I'm calling all festival everything in Portland, Oregon. There are still tickets as of right now for the early stand-up show at Revolution Hall. I have no idea if there will be
Starting point is 00:25:34 for the later one, but yeah, two live AFEs. We have amazing guests lined up, two stand-up shows with other amazing guests who are going to be on it
Starting point is 00:25:42 other than me. Marissa is going to be there. Shout out to super producer Marissa in the studio. She's off mic. She's off mic and off the leash, too. What does that mean? I have no idea. Is she usually on a leash over there?
Starting point is 00:25:55 Well, she's usually unleashed. Unleashed. Byron Allen does the podcast before this one. And he makes sure everyone's on. Byron Allen owns the Weather Channel. He does. See? No, he doesn't.
Starting point is 00:26:09 He really does. He bought it last year for like $250 million. So now he controls the weather. Oh my God. He's not a Jew. No, he's not. I know. Fucking, we're losing, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:21 anti-Semitism is rearing its ugly head again. This is what worries me about doing a podcast with Julian. He says things like that sometimes. Well, it's right there in his name, Julian. He's allowed to say it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, I'm making fun of the people that think Jews control the weather.
Starting point is 00:26:34 I don't think Jews control the weather. Exactly. And that's why Sean keeps thinking that I'm not aware of that. I'm like, stop saying the truth. Stop making fun of me and my beliefs. Don't put a blizzard in your living room. They're getting closer. It snowed in LA last week. I love that people
Starting point is 00:26:52 think Jews... Wait, that was a real thing, right? It snowed in LA, yeah. Two weeks ago. It snowed... Yeah, it hailed a little bit also and like there was some sleety snow. In Highland Park they were like... Yeah, Highland Park and Eagle Rock and yeah. So that's my argument. What motive would the Jews possibly have to make it snow in LA?
Starting point is 00:27:09 Maybe we've invested in hot cocoa recently. I've never heard that Jews control the weather. You've never heard that one? Oh, it's like a flat earth thing though. It's like a wild conspiracy. Yeah, I've heard lizards. Yeah. Well, you haven't heard all of the conspiracy theories. Every night I've heard lizards. Yeah. Well, you haven't heard all of the conspiracy theories.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Every night I fall asleep to conspiracy.org. I read an interesting one last night about how Lady Gaga is JonBenét Ramsey. Oh. Oh, but there's one
Starting point is 00:27:36 that Katy Perry is JonBenét. Yeah. Wow. Which, honestly, if you do a side-by-side pick, it's... See, with Lady Gaga
Starting point is 00:27:44 and JonBenét, nothing alike. There's no resemblance. No resemblance. Her name is Stephanie Germanotta. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just not... R.I.P. the guy from Prodigy.
Starting point is 00:27:56 R.I.P. Luke Perry and R.I.P. JonBenet Ramsey. There we go. That's our three. It's never too late. That's the three. That was one of my... Remember, another dead guy who I loved, Kevin Meaney. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:09 For real. When he was doing his original hour that he did for, I don't know, 20 years, it was wall to wall. I mean, just laugh. It was so perfect. He was so funny. He was so funny. And he had one joke that he always did that that got the least amount of laughs but it never
Starting point is 00:28:26 didn't do it what joke is it he'd say uh i i'd tell people that we were expecting and they'd say what are you gonna name the child and i'd say jean benet and i don't know if it was just for him but like his act would just be applause break after applause break and then people would be like, why would you just do that? I don't care. I don't care. I haven't settled on a name yet. He's doing the whole song. JonBenet Logan. That actually
Starting point is 00:28:55 sounds like Wolverine's like... It's not like Cajun Wolverine. Yeah. Oh, JonBenet Logan. Oh, cha. Oh, sneaky snitch. I don't Oh, Jean-Bernard Logan. Oh, cha. Oh, sneaky, sneaky. I don't do accents. That's kind of a perfect Asian accent.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Was that in the world? Oh, it was. That was good. That was as good as, what's his name from SNL? I can't remember his name. The judge in that sketch. What's his name? Save for our podcast where we try to remember people.
Starting point is 00:29:24 We try to remember stuff. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. what's his name save for our podcast where we try to remember people who are on us oh yeah I thought of a sketch idea which is I almost remember Jeopardy where where you answer it's like you know
Starting point is 00:29:34 he was you know oh where they get like from the movie from the movie with the monkey yeah he's in it with a monkey and the monkey's in the hotel
Starting point is 00:29:43 and he checks into the hotel but he's the guy he's not the with a monkey and the monkey's in the hotel and he chucks into the hotel but he's the guy he's not the monkey correct yeah exactly that's a great that's a great idea because it ends
Starting point is 00:29:51 in question oh you perfect I didn't get to do my Breaking Bad oh yeah it's Shazam but it's wrong
Starting point is 00:29:58 the way that you're arguing for in the bar when you get into a fight about it so if you're like this is actually Journey and they're like this isn't fucking Journey this is REO Speedw So if you're like, this is actually Journey, and they're like, this isn't fucking Journey, this is REO Speedwagon.
Starting point is 00:30:07 And you're like, boop, boop. And then it's like, Journey. And you're like, yeah! But it's not. It's lying for you. So wait, it's an ad that will get you into a bar fight with someone you were already going to get into a bar fight with? No, it proves you right when you're wrong.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Oh, I like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It thinks the way you do. It's like an argument wingman app. Yes. The app understands that you downloaded a bunch of songs that were labeled as Journey when Napster was around. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Even though they're REO Speedwagon, you think they're Journey? You know that Gin and Juice cover that's like, you know, kind of bluegrass-y? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was like mislabeled all over Napster. Like, who really sings that? The Goatmen? The Mountain Men or something like that? Mountain Goats?
Starting point is 00:30:46 Mountain Goats. It's not the Mountain Goats. No, somebody. But it was like mislabeled all over Napster. It was like OAR. It was Green Day. Yeah, it was like everybody. When Green Day went banjo.
Starting point is 00:30:59 I used to have a pop punk cover of Holiday Road and it was labeled to Limp Bizkit. I'm like, it's pop punk. This is not Limp Bizkit. I've never been able to find out who it is. I went to a Me First in the Gimme Gimme show back in December. Beautiful time. 2018? 2018, so two years from now. Two years from now.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Two years in the future. It was awesome? It was amazing. Were you like, man, I need a bathroom, and you ran in and it was a Me First in the Gimme Gimme concert? need a bathroom, and you ran in, and it was the first time they gave me a concert? No, no, no. I bought tickets to it. It was packed.
Starting point is 00:31:29 It was packed. Did you skank? I skanked. Oh, wow. Oh, yeah. I said, pick it up a lot. They're covers only, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Only covers. Yeah. It's their holiday ball. And it's like all fun songs, too. It was amazing. Oh, that band only does covers? Only Pop Hunt covers. Oh, I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:31:43 It's kind of like the best wedding band. It exactly is, yeah. Or my worst nightmare. It could be your worst nightmare. It's one or the other. They cover both bases. They can do either one. I was hammered.
Starting point is 00:31:53 It was perfect. That's great. We're not gathered here to extol the virtues or drag through the mud, me versus the Gimme Gimmes. We are here in beautiful HeadGum Studios, just a short jaunt from Skid Row. Just a hop, skip, and a jump from Skid Row. Just a dog leg left? Just a dog leg left.
Starting point is 00:32:09 A hop, skip, and a Gatorade bottle full of urine away from Skid Row. I saw Zac Efron on my way here. Absolutely. He's down there. What's he doing? I don't know. Probably charity. Research.
Starting point is 00:32:19 He's doing research. Speaking of Ted Bundy, he's going to play Ted Bundy. He's going to play Ted Bundy. I don't know if I'm okay. He already did. Yeah, he already did. It's done. It hasn't come out. Doesn't he have a long title? Yeah, it's like extremely
Starting point is 00:32:31 vile and incredibly close, but not the Tom Hanks movie. It's like what the judge said to him, I think, when he was sentencing him. The judge that was having too much fun at a serial killing murder case. He was like, oh, I tell you, I tell you, Mr.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Bundy. Oh, the poor decorum you brought into my courtroom. Cut to the night before when the judge is crumpling up paper after paper, trying to write the perfect line. Writing by candlelight. I sentence you guilty to being a charming, handsome mess of a man
Starting point is 00:33:03 who I enjoy spending time with every day? Well, that's not it. You want to flatter him, but that seems insensitive to the victim. Damn it, Ronnie. You're getting in your own head. You haven't been this flustered since prom. We are gathered here to download Beneficiaries of Nepotism. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:29 The Beneficiaries of Nepotism. That sounds like a metal band that's not that good. They ain't definitely open for Temple of the Dog. Dave Halford. And so the way we determine the order of the draft is with a rollicking game of rock, paper, scissors. Play between the three of you. And we throw on shoot. We're doing it right now.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Here we go. Oh, okay. Yep. Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. Oh, three. Wait, wait, wait. Paper, paper. And you were rock, right?
Starting point is 00:33:57 Yeah, so I'm definitely out. Actually, you win. Why? That's how you play three-person rock, paper, scissors. You were the odd person out. Oh, because you did something we didn't do. Exactly. You guys matched up.
Starting point is 00:34:06 So while you lost, just know that you lost, you won. You lost right. Our paper wrapped you, but you win. It's like I'm getting lapped, so I look like I'm in first place, but I'm actually way last place. But we're stupid, so we give you the medal. Whatever the reason, I won. And because of that, you get to determine
Starting point is 00:34:25 the order of the draft, but before you do that, I will tell you, it is a serpentine draft. What is that? It's a great question. It's kind of like, uh, I've never had to explain the serpentine draft like Sean Jordan before. I know, this is like his job. Fuck!
Starting point is 00:34:41 Do you want to take a stab at it? I'll try. Where is Sean Jordan? He's in Portland, Oregon already. Oh, okay. You want to take a stab i'll try okay where is sean jordan he's in portland oregon already oh okay you want to go see an atmosphere concert oh very cool oh well serpentine draft yeah is kind of like if you went to an atmosphere concert yeah and your friend went to another concert and they were they were different times yeah and so you went to the atmosphere concert first yeah he went to one second yeah but there's a third one, and it's closer to him. They let out the same time. He would get there first.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Yes. Yeah, so it's kind of that, like Serpentine. Like a snake. You know how you're at the beginning of a snake? Atmosphere concert. You know the rap group Atmosphere? No. Now Slug and his DJ?
Starting point is 00:35:22 Wait, you don't- I've heard that those concerts are awesome. They're real fun. Sean Jordan loves them. Basically what it means is if you go... I did a bad job, Sean Jordan. You did a real bad job, but Sean normally does a bad job, so it's perfect. If you go fourth in the first round, you go first
Starting point is 00:35:35 in the second round. Oh yeah, that's a way easier way to say it. That's basically it. So with that in mind, what will the order of today's draft be? I think it should be Kara, me, Sean. Perfect, me. Hell yeah, hot corner. Alright, perfect should be Kara, me, Sean. Perfect. Me. Yeah. Hell yeah. Hot corner. All right. Perfect. So Kara, you have the first pick in the nepotism, all fantasy, everything. Okay. We're just going to throw to a break real quick. We'll be right back. This episode of all fantasy. Everything is brought to you by policy genius,
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Starting point is 00:42:48 Not really. Okay. My first pick for nepotism is Allison Williams. Allison Williams. Daughter of Brian Williams. Yes. Family friends of ours. I used to babysit her when we were younger.
Starting point is 00:43:02 I was in a web series with her. Yeah. Oh, you were? Yeah. 10 years ago. She played my girlfriend. I was in a web series with her. Yeah. Oh, you were? Yeah. 10 years ago. She played my girlfriend in 10 episodes of a web series. I think I remember that, actually. Because I remember being like, oh, this girl I used to babysit for is like in stuff with
Starting point is 00:43:14 people I know. And she very much benefited from nepotism because she went right from Yale to being in Girls. Yeah. Like, never, I don't think, ever really had to struggle except maybe making a web series with Sean O'Connor. Yeah, that was the struggle. That was everyone's struggle.
Starting point is 00:43:30 And she did that as a Yale student. She was still in college once we did it? Yeah. How did you, you babysit her? Yeah, like, she lived in my town, and my mom and her were kind of friendly, and she would, I'm only a few years older than her, but, like, I babysat when I was, like, 11. Right, right, so, like, enough of that gap. Yeah, I'm only a few years older than her, but like, I babysat when I was like 11
Starting point is 00:43:45 because my mom, so like enough of that gap. Yeah, so like I would babysit her and we would like watch Disney sing-along songs like her and her little brother who's really,
Starting point is 00:43:52 they're both like really cute kids. Yeah, Douglas Williams. Oh, another fucking Douglas. NFL quarterback. He's the SNY sportscaster
Starting point is 00:44:00 at night. Yeah, he's into broadcasting like his dad. But the dad would drive me home and sometimes take me to parties and stuff. Not like take me to parties as his date. Like drop me off at parties.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Not like we would party together. Let me take you to this party. Have you ever met Wolf Blitzer? And at the time he was like a local CBS newscaster. He wasn't even big. But yeah, she, I always am like, when I would work at MTV, when I was working at MTV in like the, I don't know, early 2010s. And I was like, I would just walk out of the subway and see this chick I used to babysit for 60 feet tall on a billboard. That's so surreal.
Starting point is 00:44:42 She's never really had to go and tweet for MTV's account. I love the idea of hiring an 11-year-old babysitter. It's like, this is great as long as nothing goes wrong. You can only do that, I think, in like a safe suburb where it's like, they've got the kids asleep when you get there and all you do is sit there and like- It's also, it's fall. It's like not too hot. It's not too hot. It's not too cold out.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Yeah. Nothing can go wrong. You have the pizza lunchables in the fridge. You don't have to cook anything. Yeah. Food's all raw. You don't have to do anything. You also hired an older babysitter.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Yeah. I think back to it. I'm like, wow. Crazy people left me with their kids when I was 11 and 12. Now that I know 11-year-olds, that is fucking nuts. It's crazy. And to have that much responsibility. I mean, you were taking care of the voice of a generation.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Well, that's Lena Dunham. That's Lena Dunham. She was friends with the voice of a generation. But, I mean, Allison seems like she's doing really great now. She was in Get Out. Get Out? Yeah. She was freaky in that too. Yeah, she was. She was very freaky. She was in Get Out. Get Out? Yeah. She was freaky in that too. Yeah, she was.
Starting point is 00:45:46 She was very freaky. She was right though. She married Ricky Van Veen. No, what did she do? She married Ricky Van Veen who founded College Humor. Oh, really? Yeah. They had a wedding that i read about in people
Starting point is 00:46:06 magazine like it was everybody flew into jackson hole wyoming and like didn't know where they were going they got picked up they got taken away their phones were taken away onto a rocket ship they got married on the moon on the moon yeah it's good that people are still going buzz aldrin married them what people don't know is he actually never left. He's been up there like Yoda the whole time. Oh, I've been waiting for this.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Is America great again? Lena was the, what is it called? The reverend or whatever. Yeah, yeah, the rabbi. The rabbi? She made the whole thing about her.
Starting point is 00:46:44 What I like to think, do you remember the last episode of Chelsea Lately? How Buzz Aldrin was there? Oh, no. What? Did you not go to that?
Starting point is 00:46:52 I was supposed to go and I was out of town. That's wild. The last episode of Chelsea Lately, they just brought in as many celebrities as they could.
Starting point is 00:46:59 Yeah, they really, it was like so random. They called it, Russell Westbrook was there and like, well, some other people I can't mention, but like Russell Westbrook was there. And some other people I can't mention. But Russell Westbrook was there. Buzz Aldrin was there.
Starting point is 00:47:08 And then also a Kardashian and people in her circle. Ernest, the guy that Ernest goes to camp. That dude, he was there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, he's alive. Yeah, he died like 20 years ago. He's been dead since Toy Story 1. Beethoven.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Beethoven. Is Toy Story 1 your Jesus Christ? Yeah, that's year one. That's when the new timeline began. BTS before Toy Story. Did you cast Alison Williams in that thing? I did. In fact, to go into...
Starting point is 00:47:37 You just found a college student? To go into nepotism, this is an actual true story. So the person I wrote and who directed the web series is my friend Ralph. Yeah. Who worked at Paradigm Talent Agency. Yeah. So his whole thing was he was like, whoever we get to play the lead should be someone famous's daughter. So we sat down with Alison Williams, Zoe Kravitz, and Cody Horn.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Who's Cody Horn? She wound up being the lead female on Magic Mike, the first one. Oh, yeah. Okay, who's her dad? Alan Horn, who used to run Disney and Warner Brothers. Oh, okay. And they were all Paradigm. So we went to dinner with all three of them.
Starting point is 00:48:18 And obviously, we were like, Alison seems like she's the one who would say yes to this Believe it or not did not buy being my girl But this was back when you were ripped yeah Like that's the thing I had I used to have this like you know like barbed wire tattoo Abs for days I had to get rid of it because I don't want people to know that I was the guy from Crazy Horse.
Starting point is 00:48:48 Your arm swallowed it. Crazy Town. Crazy Town. Yeah, the butterfly. Butterfly. Yeah, I'm Shifty Shape. I think that guy died too. He did.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Heroin. Oh, really? The only way to go. He was the first opioid. He was the first person to make it. To die of opioids. Heroin really is being shot down in your prime. Shot up in your prime.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Shot up in your prime. Oh, shit. Is that too good for too long? Julian, take it down a bit. You know, I was in a hotel and like, you know how just stuff will come on the TV? And the movie Something's Gotta Give. You mean TV? Yeah, TV. When you're at home, you'll be maybe more curatorial, but in a hotel on the road, you're just like, whatever happened.
Starting point is 00:49:33 You're like, fuck it, it's me and Mario Lopez all weekend. Right, exactly. It's dealer's choice at a hotel. And that movie Something's Gotta Give, which was like Diane Keaton and Jack Nicholson. One of my favorite movies. It's a great movie movie but it starts with the song Butterfly by Crazy Town
Starting point is 00:49:46 that's hilarious which is fucking nuts because the rest of it that's the Come My Lady Come Come My Lady song also the rest of the soundtrack is like Eartha Kitt singing French standards
Starting point is 00:49:55 and then it just starts out with like Come My Lady Come Come My Lady and I was like what the fuck movie is this that was definitely like Nancy Meyers
Starting point is 00:50:03 talking to her kids and being like, what is like, what's hot right now? They're like, there's only one thing, but it's so hot. That song was fucking nuts
Starting point is 00:50:14 because also at the end of that song, we ain't going nowhere. That bad boys for life. Yeah. So at the end of it, you know, cause it's all about
Starting point is 00:50:24 like Puff Daddy and his crew living in like the Hamptons and like disrupting a white neighborhood. Guess who moves in at the end of it? Crazy Town. Because he's now part of the neighborhood. He's out there in a robe. And then like this, like these punk rockers move in next door. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:37 And it was fucking Crazy Town. And then now, you know, they were definitely just renting for a weekend. Wait, this is an Nancy Meyers movie? No, no, no. So this is just the connecting thread here. It's Crazy Town's Butterfly. Right. In the video for Bad Boys for Life, just how much Nancy Meyers believed in Crazy Town.
Starting point is 00:50:56 Yeah. Puff Daddy was like, they're the Puff Daddy of rock music. And also in the movie, Jack Nicholson is supposed to be like a hip hop producer. Oh, yeah. But not that that's crazy. A lot of people don't know this. It's insane. Jack Nicholson and Diane Keaton both said Something's Got to Give was the best movie they were ever in.
Starting point is 00:51:12 That is not a true thing. It can't be true at all. I'll Shazam it with my new app. Oh, God. Oh. You got to get the fucking plugs in like that. See, that's a smart man. It makes up quotes, too.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Yeah. Whatever you want it to be, that's what it says it is in an app. Honestly, this app sounds like it's going to make you unbearable to be around. Wait, that's how it works. It records what you just said, and then it says it back with authority. In like a Siri voice? That's really good. Jack Nicholson in 2014 said.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Did say. Something's got to give was his favorite film experience. Alison Williams, said. Did say. Something's gotta give. It was his favorite film experience. Alison Williams, fantastic. Yeah, that's my first pick. That's a good one. Julian McCullough, it's time for your first pick. Your first pick on AFE ever.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Julian Casablancas. Ooh, what a good pick. The singer of the Strokes. Yeah. I just yelled so loud. Who's his father? Who's his relationship? His father is...
Starting point is 00:52:03 Casablancas from Casablancas Models. Well, Casablanca's from Casablanca's Models. Well, elite model agent. Yeah, he owns Elite Models, yeah. Now he does. It was Casablanca's
Starting point is 00:52:11 in the 70s. Oh, okay. Should I use my app? Well, I was going by what it was called, bitch.
Starting point is 00:52:17 I donated $15 to it in 2005. Shit. It sounds like you're jealous of my app. So he was a modeling agency, like a model mogul or something like that? Yeah, like one of the biggest of- John Casablanca.
Starting point is 00:52:30 He kind of created the whole idea of supermodels. Oh, Evangelista and Turlington and all those gals in the 90s. His own mother, Jeanette Christensen. So, yeah, I know him and Hammond Jr. or whatever the guitarist Albert Hammond Jr. right?
Starting point is 00:52:48 yeah was the father of the guy the guitarist of Albert Hammond Jr. yeah and so it's kind of the strokes
Starting point is 00:52:55 but mainly Julian because I think the guitarist guy is like extremely talented and I think he's a really good artist I think Julian is extremely talented
Starting point is 00:53:02 because he writes literally all the songs yeah and I don't like that band wait but is he not you don't like that who's the I think Julian Casablancas is extremely talented because he writes literally all the songs. Yeah, and I don't like that band. Wait, but is he not the – You don't like that? But isn't the lead singer Fabrizio Moretti or no? No, he's the drummer. He's the drummer.
Starting point is 00:53:13 He's the human drum machine. He's the one I heard of. They all have amazing names, though. They do. Nick Valenzi, Julian Casablancas, Albert Hammond Jr. They all sound like F1 racers. And Nikolai Freicher. Yeah, they do sound like F1 racers.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Wait, does Julian Casablancas have a woman in his life that is- He's married. But is it to anyone that is famous? I don't think so. I didn't recognize her name. I don't think I only know about Fabrizio Moretti because he dated Wig and all these other people. Yeah, Wig, Drew Barrymore. Yeah, he's dated a lot.
Starting point is 00:53:39 So I thought he was a lead singer for that reason. I think the rest of them, Albert Hammond Jr. and Nick Valencia, I think they both married these two-girl sisters that are musicians. I think Casablanca's married, you guessed it, a model. A model. His mom was a model. His mom was a Danish model. Amazing live, three perfect albums, The Shrugs Rule.
Starting point is 00:54:02 And Albert Hammond Sr.'s It Never Rains in Southern California is a fucking great song. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's him? That's him. Oh, wow. Great song. Well, also, isn't he the Hammond organ?
Starting point is 00:54:14 Isn't that like the... No. Oh, it's a different family? Yeah. He's a... Yeah, he was just like a... I thought that was their great grandfather. No, he...
Starting point is 00:54:21 The organ. He was like a Laurel Canyon, like... Oh, okay. Part of like...l Canyon part of like Crosby, Stills, and Nash, that whole group. God, that would have been such a fun scene to be a part of. But the strokes are like the girls of, like they show the girls because they were all nepotisms. Yes. The strokes are like that of rock in the early 2000s. I think that's what happens when you form a band in a Swiss boarding school. It's really hard to not benefit from nepotism in that setting.
Starting point is 00:54:52 In fact, the opposite of that would be the talking heads who have no nepotism and they met at RISD, which is like the most, like it's amazing that they avoided that. They were the only kids whose parents weren't like massively influential architects or something like that. Yeah, they were the only kids whose parents weren't like yeah influential architects yeah uh yeah they were the walk-ons yeah the risdy walk-ons god yeah the strokes are good though i mean i like they're like i think they're easily one of the best fans of the last 20 i do love i do love is this it i thought it was a great album i went to see the them in dc on a whim i was walking to class at ruckers and this girl I was seeing at the time was like, I'm going to see The Strokes in D.C. You want to come? And I literally dropped my backpack and just got in the car. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:55:33 And I realized later I didn't have to drop my backpack. That was dumb. You could have brought it. You could have left it in the car. I went to the show, and they sounded exact. I mean, drum machine, definitely. They sounded exact. It was like you put the CD in.
Starting point is 00:55:45 He doesn't talk in between songs. No. They just go into different ones. He just says the name of the song and they just start playing it. It's fucking great. This is not a knock on their songs. It was the most boring concert I've ever been to in my life. I've seen the show five times.
Starting point is 00:55:57 I love them. Really? It's such a tight show. They just come out and play. They don't do any gussing it up and there's something amazing about a band that has a band that has that many good songs who don't have to gussy it up they don't have to put any air it's just they're like hit hit hit it just hit hit that's awesome like there's no fireworks they don't need them they're the strokes he didn't
Starting point is 00:56:21 move they didn't move they don't stand. Fabrizio is such a good drummer. By the way, and Sean's saying this is fun rock and roll. Yeah. So you would like a Bruce Springsteen concert where there's more. I saw Bruce Springsteen and I didn't like it. But what Julian likes is not liking things. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's not true.
Starting point is 00:56:39 I like tons of shit. You like Phil Collins. I like charismatic front men. I love Freddie Mercury. Freddie Mercury is awesome. David Bowie. You like Rami Malek. Congratulations, Rami Malek.
Starting point is 00:56:51 I've never seen the movie. I had to Google if he was someone famous as kid because nepotism had to have played into it somehow. Is he not? I don't think so. He did grow up in L.A. though. Christian Slater is his dad, right? Christian Slater's his mom. But I do want people to tweet in about that.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Do you prefer cardboard cutouts and the CD playing as a concert, or do you prefer fun? We'll put up a secondary poll. The strokes in or out. Yeah. I think what's so amazing about them is that it's so hard for bands to sound like they do on their album. They mostly sound far worse.
Starting point is 00:57:31 I think it's great that they are able to do that. And it just shows how good they are at their instrument. Fabrizio Moretti might be the best drummer ever. He sounds like a fucking drum machine. His timing is perfect. That's so hard to do. I'd rather that than someone having like 40 pieces.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Super loose. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, gong. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, gong. That is interesting. I've seen hip hop shows are often like way worse because they sound so much worse than the album. I think most hip hop artists sound terrible on SNL even. Yeah. A studio that has great acoustics.
Starting point is 00:58:05 They've got like a lot of you know they've got a lot of perks but like it just it sounds bad it just doesn't translate that's when like hip hop is good live
Starting point is 00:58:13 it's like extra impressive I think Jay Z's really good live I think so too actually and sounds the most like of a rapper
Starting point is 00:58:19 that I've seen he sounds the most like he does on his recordings like Kanye West blew me away live oh my god he's so good live he was on that recordings. Like Kanye West blew me away live. Oh my God. He's so good live.
Starting point is 00:58:26 He was on that stage. Does he just stand still and sound just like the album? He actually does. He does stand still because he's on a moving stage. Oh right. If you love technical prowess and don't care about songwriting, you would love
Starting point is 00:58:41 Joe Satriani and John Tesh. They're both really tight. Oh, I care about songwriting because the Strokes have written better songs than most people over the last 25 years. Most people. This is the podcast on Comedy Central. Not Joe Satriani.
Starting point is 00:58:54 It's the Strokes. It's the definitive Strokes podcast. Definitely Joe Satriani. We're talking music, baby. LCD Sound System is good live, who you wouldn't think because the music is so electronic and precision based. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Hot Chips, great live. Oh, yeah. They just mostly stand behind keyboards. Does somebody come out and wail on an electric guitar for, uh. Oh, yeah. Ooh, I'd love to see that. Okay. You can go look up their songs.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Uh, Sean O'Connor, it is time for your first pick. All right. Sean Cougar Mellon O'Connor. My first pick is Stella McCartney. Ooh. That's a good one. Because one, she made her own way in a way. Like Stella McCartney definitely opened doors.
Starting point is 00:59:35 But she could have followed the journey of Jacob Dillon or Dahani Harrison. But she didn't. She became a fashion designer. And she's pretty good. Yeah. She's amazing. Yeah. But she didn't. She became a fashion designer and she's pretty good. Yeah. She's amazing. Yeah. She's great.
Starting point is 00:59:48 She's like very legit. Like I know nothing about fashion, but I know Stella McCartney does fashion. Yes. Yeah. No, and she's like, it's good.
Starting point is 00:59:58 It's expensive. She's like the Rolling Stones of fashion. Yeah. So I'm looking for the metaphor here. And I think that's how it should, that's how you should use nepotism in a way. Like, I don't think you should do the same exact thing as your parents. Don't do the same thing.
Starting point is 01:00:12 And I think we've kind of all followed this in the draft so far. You're right. Like, Alison Williams is not a newswoman. Sure. The Strokes are the best band instead of doing models. Yeah. Instead of modeling. Some of them are still doing models. And then Selma instead of doing models. Yeah. Instead of modeling. Some of them are still doing models.
Starting point is 01:00:27 And then Sel McCartney, fashion designer. Yeah. And Paul McCartney, you know what? That guy knew how to write a song. Yeah, he could. He was a popular little number. But you ever see how he dresses? Not good.
Starting point is 01:00:39 Not great. Not great. He dresses like my Aunt Pat. He's frumpy. He looks like Mary Bird's sister. I don't think she does any menswear. No, it doesn't. Nothing can help.
Starting point is 01:00:50 So she watched her dad, and she was like, you know what? I'm going down my own road. And he was like, here's a blank check. And it all worked out. Neff, it's just a rule. She's like, in 30 years when my dad looks like a rich old lady, my clothes are going to be perfect for him. He does. He looks like a chubby British bird now.
Starting point is 01:01:13 But yeah, I mean, like, it must, she's definitely winning like the, like, music icon kid. I think she is in the, I think she is in the front of that line. Yeah, we gave Jacob Dillon one hit. Or what about Sean Lennon? Sean Lennon. Jacob Dillon had two hits. Sean Lennon was the same. Sixth Avenue Heartache and One Headlight.
Starting point is 01:01:32 That's true. Wait, that's Jacob Dillon? No. What does Sean Lennon do? Sean Lennon is a musician. He, you know, he's friends with a lot of people. He's friends with the Strokes and the Moldy Peaches. They're part of the anti-folk scene.
Starting point is 01:01:48 And Tori Moore or whatever, he's in with them too for some reason. Yeah, weird. I think he's made films. He takes more after Yoko, if you know what I'm saying. Yeah, his music sucks. Is that what you mean? Yeah, his music sucks. I really tried to get in.
Starting point is 01:02:03 I'm like, there's something about Yoko's music that I'm not getting. And that remains true. Yes. You're just dope. It's not for everyone or anyone. And that's the beauty of art. It's right in that sweet spot where it's not for anyone or everyone. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:17 I also think it might have been like responding so directly to what was happening at the time that being removed from that context is maybe like, well, I don't get it. It's like, well, you know, of course not. Well, you know, Ian, art is a conversation. Oh. So that's where she's coming from. And I do think Yoko Ono, her music be considered art more than most music.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Yeah, that's true. Because it's incomprehensible. Yeah. It's Picasso-esque. Isn't this good? It's cubism I remember just being in high school sitting there listening to like
Starting point is 01:02:47 Plastic Ono Band and like stuff like that and just being like you like this and I'm like no I don't you like this I'm like I don't like it
Starting point is 01:02:56 I wish I could get into it but it's just like really someone going like donkey donkey donkey donkey not Plastic Ono Band that was a fucking that was a anyway but yeah but i think maybe maybe
Starting point is 01:03:10 that's what it was yeah doesn't matter but stella mccartney come on my team stella mccartney makes awesome sneakers too which is yeah yeah she like designs really cool sneakers but they're all for women so you can't some men can get them if they have smaller feet, but my feet are too big. They don't make women's sneakers like in 14s or 15s or whatever. Oh, so they're five feet? Like for you by you. Yeah. They're not FUBU. No, not at FUBU.
Starting point is 01:03:36 I have small feet. Meg, my yeah, Meg, my fiance, she says, if I was a gangster in the 30s I'd be Baby Shoes McCullough. Hey, that's better because I'd be Baby Dick O'Connor. You could wear some Stella McCartney's. I know. You should scope them out.
Starting point is 01:03:56 I'm a nine and a half, which is tiny for a boy. Absolutely, you could wear them. Yeah. Man, that's tight. I bet it's way easier to find sneakers. Nine and a half boys? Well, men. Yeah. I bet it's way easier to find sneakers. Nine and a half boys? Well, men. Boys.
Starting point is 01:04:08 I don't think it's, once you hit 10, then it's men. Oh, okay. So then you're, so then. I'm like an 11 in women's. An 11 in women's. Which is probably not a real size for Stella McCartney's shoes. I bet it is. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Sometimes they're like 10, but yeah, maybe. It must be so easy to find heels. It is, yeah. And they're very narrow. That's the thing. I could easily wear women's shoes. I had to wear heels for some Chelsea Lately sketches. That shit sucks.
Starting point is 01:04:34 It does, and that's why we should put women on a pedestal. Can I just say the stereotype is not true. I have the tightest vagina, okay? So just because my feet are so small. That's your butt, dude. It is. That's your butt, dude. I knew I should have used a hand mirror.
Starting point is 01:04:55 It's time for my first pick, and then my second one, as it is a serpentine draft. With my first pick, I'm going to go ahead and take somebody who is in the same line of work as their parents, but I love her, and I love her parents, too. I'm taking Kate Hudson. Perfect, Kate. That's a good one.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Kate Hudson, whose parents are, of course, Ernie Hudson and Goldie Hawn. And Kate Winslet. And Kate Winslet. Shout out to Ernie Hudson. No, whose parents are Goldie Hawn and fucking Kurt Russell yeah
Starting point is 01:05:28 it's actually not Kurt Russell though wait it's not no he raised her he raised her but their dad's name is like something Hudson
Starting point is 01:05:37 oh yeah Rock Hudson it's not Rock Hudson definitely not Rock Hudson because she has a brother too named Oliver Hudson Oliver Hudson
Starting point is 01:05:45 who was like on that show Scream Queens yes he was on Scream Queens but he's on one now with Jenna Fisher that's called Splitting Up Together oh yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:05:53 on pop he's on he is hunky really hunky and you know who's also pretty Kate Hudson Kate Hudson is beautiful Goldie Hawn
Starting point is 01:06:03 as far as ladies go not too shabby looking not too shabby no Oliver Hudson is a hot Goldie Hawn. As far as ladies go, not too shabby looking. Not too shabby. Oliver Hudson is a Hawn. Key Hudson, actress, but also athleisure wear entrepreneur. You know that's where she makes her real money. Fabletics, baby. Is Fabletics Kay Hudson?
Starting point is 01:06:17 Yeah, that's her whole brand. That Oliver Hudson was in something recently, also as a guest star on a show where he was a bad guy and he was awesome I've seen him Jack Pearson on This Is Us oh wait no that's somebody else
Starting point is 01:06:30 whatever but anyway that's a good fact I'm half hard at googling yeah how come Kate Hudson wasn't a bigger star that's a great question
Starting point is 01:06:37 so well I can trace it back to How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days I feel like because that movie sucked
Starting point is 01:06:44 no it actually was a huge hit, and that's what was the problem. After that, it was like mediocre rom-com. She was trying to follow the Julia Roberts model. Oh, yeah. She was incorrectly picking it. I just talked about this
Starting point is 01:06:56 because her first movie is 200 Cigarettes, and I had to watch it for another podcast. Oh, yeah. I remember that. And she's incredible in it. Like, she does all... Who's 200 Cigarettes cigarettes who's the director isn't it like a tour no i'm thinking of coffee and cigarettes normally that's jim jarman uh but she
Starting point is 01:07:11 she's like doing so much slapstick comedy like she's like buster keaton in this movie yeah i'm like oh she's so talented and then in almost famous the first time you see her you're like instantly in love with this person like Like she's so good and convincing. And she's great in 10 Days. I hate about – How long is she on 10 Days? In 10 Days. In 10 Days.
Starting point is 01:07:31 Everything after that, though. It was like Bride Wars. It was like all very like – it was like a Meg Ryan trajectory. You knew me in the pre. And she never had her like Erin Brockovich to solidify this. She needed to do like a serious thing. And then on top of that, also, I think like personal stuff, like she has three kids by three different dudes.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Yeah. And she married the Black Crows dude. Yeah. I saw them once together in New York, though. They looked really cool. Did they? They looked really fucking cool. Aren't his clothes 100% made of weed?
Starting point is 01:08:02 He was wearing like denim on denim and I always thought he looked like a heroin addict, kind of. But in real life, I was like, damn. Like, they walked past me on the street, and I was like, they have star power, like a cloud of star power around them. He's that skinny dude body that's, like, so hot in person. And he's much taller than I thought he would be, too. He's, like, very tall, like, just confident. I don't know. I was like, I get it. And then the Muse guy, and then now it's a new guy that he would be, too. He's, like, very tall, like, just confident. I don't know. I was like, I get it.
Starting point is 01:08:25 And then the Muse guy, and then now it's a new guy that she has a kid with. Oh, so she's— I love these ladies that look like angels, and then they have these— Like, Kate Winslet has, like, three kids with three different guys or something like that, and she's, like, perfect. I love it. I love it. They're a mess.
Starting point is 01:08:40 Get out there. Mix it up. But, yeah, Kate Hudson— Get that DNA everywhere. You're perfect looking. I think she might be the best choice of the draft, period. She's awesome. Yeah. But she was also raised by Kurt Russell.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Yeah. It's like double nepotism. It's double nepotism. Yes, they definitely opened some doors. Plus, Goldie Hawn is fucking awesome. I mean, truly one of the greatest comedic performers. But Kate Hudson is so beautiful that even if her parents were nob- If she was from a fucking trailer park, she would have been famous.
Starting point is 01:09:11 It just took her like eight less auditions. But don't you also think that Kate Hudson has been in such a lull right now that if she came back almost as a serious role in a prestige thing on HBO, we'd be like, yeah. Yes, of course. She needs to Reese Witherspoon it like with like a big little lies like a true detective some kind of thing she goes in
Starting point is 01:09:31 maybe she could play like a white trash role pretty fun at the same time you're Kate Hudson right she doesn't need to do shit you've got three kids with three different rock stars or whatever they are and it's like why go back who gives a shit? She also has a successful clothing.
Starting point is 01:09:48 Yeah, the phalletics. I'm telling you, that's her bread and butter now. Like, why go to work? That's a good point. For the gold. You do everything for the Oscar. She loves it. You do it. There's no other reason to do anything but for the Oscar. You know what her kids look like? They're probably hot.
Starting point is 01:10:03 They're probably gorgeous. Hot kids. Hot kids. Hey, that's a good It should be your next episode. Hot kids. This is really funny actually that you
Starting point is 01:10:12 bring that up. The first episode idea Kara ever had was what was it? Celebrity children. I go, let's do celebrity kids. And Ian goes, cool.
Starting point is 01:10:21 And then like a half an hour later he goes, we're kind of having a hard time with this. Like three straight white dudes being like, oh no, it was, sorry, it was more just. Oh yeah, David, yeah. Like three straight dudes talking about our favorite kids in Hollywood. You know who I like is Blue Ivy.
Starting point is 01:10:38 I was thinking like, yeah, there are so many and we could do adult kids. But yeah, I was like, you're right. It's creepy. This is a better way to was like, you're right. It's creepy. Let's switch. Let's talk about Finn Wolfhard. It was like celebrity children though. Right. So it was like,
Starting point is 01:10:55 I was like, Oh, someone will draft Suri. Sure. And like, you know, at least somebody will want to that poor girl. Anyway, sorry. I tried to make you be a pedophile on your podcast.
Starting point is 01:11:08 She's never met her real dad. I know. That's true. Who? Story Cruise? Ron Hubbard? Wait, are you a person that thinks it's Chris Klein or a person that thinks it's Josh Hartnett? I think it's Josh Hartnett.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Really? Yeah. Oh, my God. What? Look at the side by side. Really? It looks like you smashed Hartnett and Kate Holmes into one another. It's like Ronan Farrow all over again.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Oh, my God. He looks like you smashed Woody Allen. He's like a dead ringer for Woody Allen. It's crazy. Classic Woody Allen, Ronan Farrow. You put a fisherman's cap on him and a saxophone in his hands. That's Ronan Farrow all the way. Ronan Farrow has Ashkenazi written all over his face.
Starting point is 01:11:49 I love that Arnold Schwarzenegger's son grew up and then they were like, he has an Austrian accent. It's definitely. That'd be great if that's how they found out. He grew up in Calabasas. But he's like, I can could tell where's my real dad. So Cain Hudson with my first pick. With my second pick. Now this is where the draft gets serpentine.
Starting point is 01:12:13 This is where it gets serpentine because I get to go again. I'm going to take Ben Stiller. Great one. That's a good one. And, you know, a triple threat. Yeah. Actor, director, Jew. Yeah, Ben Jew. Oh, he can say it. Yeah, he can threat. Yeah. Yeah. Actor, director, Jew.
Starting point is 01:12:25 Yeah. Yeah. Jew. Oh, he can say it. Yeah, he can. He can say it. Oh, that's the rule. He's a Semitic. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:32 His name is George Katz. Yeah. The son of Jerry Stiller and Ann Mira, of course, two comedic legends themselves. And then they made a kid who was a comedic legend. Yeah. And he has a sister in New York who I know. Does he really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:48 Amy Stiller. How's she doing? Is like a pal of mine on Facebook and like we've hung out in real life a few times and she's older than Ben and, you know, more of like a stage one woman show type of actress. Probably kind of tough. Okay. To live a life where you're not
Starting point is 01:13:06 Beth Stiller. Is she getting checks from Beth hopefully? She lived on my street on the Upper West Side when I lived in New York. So we used to run into each other
Starting point is 01:13:14 like all the time. Yeah. And I've met Jan. I met Ann before she died and Jerry and they're like the sweet they were like the sweetest people.
Starting point is 01:13:22 I hear that guy is so sweet. Jerry Stiller. Jerry Stiller? Yeah. Yeah. R.I.P. R.I.P. to guy is so sweet. Jerry Stiller. RIP to a true pimp. Did he die? No, he's alive. She died. Oh, RIP to a true pimp.
Starting point is 01:13:34 And Mara? Yeah, she passed, but he's still I don't know why I thought Jerry Stiller died. We're at a point now where anyone older than 80 could be dead. They must be dead. You assume they're dead. They must be dead.
Starting point is 01:13:46 Yeah. I remember when Amy Bogota would trend on Twitter all the time and I was like, it's time. I looked it up that Martin Landau only died like a year ago and I was like, is that true? I was alive then. Do you know what's my favorite thing about Ben Stiller is how ripped he is. He's in amazing shape. It's wild. He was kind of
Starting point is 01:14:05 the first comedian to get into shape for comedy. He might be the only comedian to ever do that. Yeah, because Zoolander, he's tight. Yeah, he's so tight.
Starting point is 01:14:14 And like, I think like in the 90s when he played Tony Perkis in Heavyweight. Yeah. He's like super ripped. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:21 For like a 20 minute role. He's been, right. He's been right he's been in amazing shape the whole day which is weird to me and still funny you know
Starting point is 01:14:29 yeah it's tough to be funny with muscles but somehow I make it work every day baby every day baby you Carrot Top
Starting point is 01:14:36 and Joe Rogan yeah so Ben Stiller that's a great choice there's not too much to say about Ben Stiller Sean time for your second pick
Starting point is 01:14:44 my second pick I'm very excited about this because I truly like Stella McCartney. And this one I don't like. And this is, I think, a fully nepotism. Pauly Shore. Whoa. That's great. It's fully, like, one, the people who, the comedy gatekeepers would have never seen him if his mother didn't own the biggest comedy club in America. Wait, what's his dad's story?
Starting point is 01:15:11 He was a nightclub comic in Vegas. Okay. They owned the comedy store together. She got it in the divorce. Oh, okay. Yeah. But Pauly Shore, I mean, truly, like, I mean, he had movies. Yeah. But nepotism opened that door. It had to kick that door down. But Pauly Shore, I mean, truly, like, I mean, he had movies.
Starting point is 01:15:27 But nepotism opened that door. It had to kick that door down. Yeah, he was, like, on MTV as a 17-year-old. And, like, his comedy voice was. But so was Jake Fogelness. That's true. That's true. But yet, in the rarest of occasions, Pauly Shore is more unbearable. Jake, I love you. You're one of my best friendsauly Shore is more unbearable. Jake, I love you.
Starting point is 01:15:46 You're one of my best friends. But you are truly unbearable. We haven't mentioned him in 150 episodes. There's no way he's still listening. I don't know him personally, but I really adore his presence and everything. He's a sweetheart. But yeah, he had a squirt TV. But Pauly Shore was cast from stand-up comedy,
Starting point is 01:16:08 and his stand-up comedy was just like, hell, I see a lot of Lisa's in the crowd. He was a character. I don't know that he had actual jokes. I mean, maybe he had jokes. I don't know. I listened to his stand-up album. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:21 Oh, he has an album? I've never seen anyone. I've never heard anyone crush harder. It's like 1994 at the Pauly Pavilion at album. Yeah. Oh, he has an album? Where I've never seen anyone, I've never heard anyone crush harder. It's like 1994 at the Pauley Pavilion at UCLA. Wow, they even named the pavilion after him.
Starting point is 01:16:31 Wow. No, it was... That's what you would think. Is that not the case? No, no, no. It was the mafia dude, Pauley Pavilion. Oh, Pauley Pavilion.
Starting point is 01:16:41 It's actually the Pauley Pavilion Pavilion. Who banned the pavilions at the grocery store for longer money. Yeah, the ham's $19. His dadly Pavilion Pavilion. Who banned the pavilions? The grocery store. They're laundering money. Yeah, the ham's $19. His dad was the original pavilion. But literally, his opener, I'll never forget it, was him saying a word and then just giving
Starting point is 01:16:56 the definition of the word so you understood his stand-up. He's like, when I say stony, what I mean is blank. And he's like, and when I'm looking for major grindage, I'm talking about food. Oh, my God. People are like, wow. He opened with a glossary of terms. Exactly. Like, imagine coming on stage and being like, okay, now when I say pussy, I mean vagina.
Starting point is 01:17:18 Or I say leaning tower of cheese. Jetta. Jetta. I mean, he was in the extremely goofy movie. Yes, he was. As himself. I understand your point. At the same time, laughed many times at Pauly Shore.
Starting point is 01:17:33 I thought Pauly Shore was very funny. So far, Julian doesn't like the strokes. No, but he does like Pauly Shore. Okay. I didn't say I didn't like the strokes. I said they were boring live. But Pauly Shore, you didn't think Encino Man was funny? You didn't think Son of Law was funny?
Starting point is 01:17:49 I liked In the Army Now. Jury duty. And I do like jury duty because it has the line, Hey, Judgeito, take a bite of my burrito. Oh, that's right. No, when he says burrito, he means burrito. When he says burrito, he means burrito. When he says judgeto. Were you done with him by the time Biodome came out?
Starting point is 01:18:10 I liked Biodome. I was a Pauly Shore kid. Are you kidding me? Biodome brought me back. Just when I thought I was out. He keeps pulling me back in. It was Pauly Pavilion's quote. Yeah, Pauie Shore.
Starting point is 01:18:25 And then now still doing stand-up, I guess. I kind of have heard that he's like a handful when he's at clubs. Really? I heard, and this is my favorite, like somebody who has to work with him a lot told me that he's not like a good dude or a bad dude. It's he's not like a good dude or a bad dude. He's so out of touch from his life that like he'll walk into public in the situations and not feel what's going on at all. And like he took this guy took him to a late night chicken restaurant. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:55 You know where this is going. Yeah. And Pauly was like just talking to everybody and trying to be. They have no idea who this guy is. Oh, no. You know what I mean? Yeah. So he got like like, within an inch of being murdered and had no idea
Starting point is 01:19:07 the entire time. They don't know you're Paulie Jordan. He kind of is. He kind of is like Arthur. Because he was also, for like, eight years, so successful. Massively famous, yeah. He dated Paris Hilton. Did he really? That's the top. Yeah, no, no, but like...
Starting point is 01:19:23 But like, good Paris Hilton.. But like good Paris Hilton. Yeah, like good Paris Hilton. That's the end. Pre-Hilton's peak. Yeah, like pre-sex tape Paris Hilton. Like there was a world in which Tia Carrera and Pauly Shore were like a couple that gets together at the end of the movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:38 Like, no. By the way, that reminds me. Paris Hilton's sex tape. The most boring sex tape I've ever seen in my entire life. Oh, my God. I've seen pieces of that. What, are you playing with it or are you going to use it? That one's boring.
Starting point is 01:19:48 What are you doing? The Kim Kardashian one's pretty boring, too. It is. It's pretty boring. But that's what sex was like back then. Ass eating wasn't invented until 2014? 2014. Sex was like jaw rule.
Starting point is 01:20:00 It was like mediocre. It was mediocre. That's what we had, though. You made it worse. You made it worse. You made it worse. J-Lo was there a lot. Pauly Shore is a good one. And it's not for me.
Starting point is 01:20:15 Pauly Shore, yeah. Kara's up. Oh, we go back the other way? It's called a serpentine trap. Did you not get my atmosphere? Dang it. He explained it perfectly. I was laying out three different things. There's three concerts.
Starting point is 01:20:31 Three concerts. One starts first, but the other's closer. Okay, I didn't, mine is someone, I didn't look up much anything about them. Perfect. They might not even have parents. It's a fictional thing. I didn't look it up kind of for the reason why i think this is such a great nepotism pick yeah because if that if you even know of this person you only know him for one
Starting point is 01:20:57 thing and then no one really it's like if nepotism didn't do okay just say it. It's a one-hit wonder. Julian Lennon had one hit. Oh, yeah. It's Much Too Late for Goodbyes, which I like that song. I went to listen to it again. Doesn't really hold up the way I thought it did. It's actually worse than I thought. Is this John Lennon's other son? His first son with Cynthia Lennon.
Starting point is 01:21:20 Hey Jude is to Julian Lennon. Oh, about Julian. Okay. And yes, Paul McCartney wrote Hey Jude is about, is to Julia Lennon. Oh, about Julian. Yeah. Okay. And yes, Paul McCartney. Yeah. Wrote Hey Jude. Yes. Did you pick two people named Julian?
Starting point is 01:21:30 It's a coincidence. So the, but it's interesting. I never listened to the rest of the album. Do you think it's nepotism? You don't think? But it's so funny to me that he got to the point in the 80s of having a top 10 hit. Yeah. And then disappeared.
Starting point is 01:21:47 And it's like, obviously, the only fucking way that guy got anywhere near a recording studio is because his dad was John Lennon. Oh, absolutely. You know what I mean? Like, he's never heard anyone talk about how good his music is. Why did nothing else ever happen for him? Huh? Probably because he didn't have anything to bag it up. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:22:03 I should look it up. He was the direct inspiration for Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds, Hey Jude, and Good Night. And he looks like John Lennon. Yeah, a little bit. He also kind of looks like Trent Reznor now. I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist. Yeah, a little bit.
Starting point is 01:22:18 A little bit. But is it possible the reason why he disappeared? He was... He looks like Tom York as well. Oh, yeah. After seeing a picture of him, I rest my conspiracy theory. Oh, wait, what was it? That perhaps he was the one who was shot and killed.
Starting point is 01:22:36 And that John Lennon was carrying on as his son. Had one top ten hitting, like, they're going to find me out. Oh, mate, they're going to find me out. Oh mate, they're going to find me out. Oh no. Now he just lives in Canada or
Starting point is 01:22:49 something. He wrote that movie, that forthcoming What If The Beatles Never Existed movie? He wrote it
Starting point is 01:22:56 yesterday. Did he do anything after this? How long is that Wikipedia by the way? It can't be
Starting point is 01:23:01 very long. It's pretty long. No, it's not very long. No, it's not. There's a lot of citations. I'm on the eighth part very long. It's pretty long. No, it's not very long. No, it's not. There's a lot of citations.
Starting point is 01:23:06 I'm on the eighth part of it. He's the current writer of Garfield. Oh, that's pretty good. Well, that's funny. He lives in Monaco. He has no children of his own. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 01:23:17 He was in the Boomtown Rats. He wrote I Don't Like Mondays. They were like, you're perfect for it, baby. That's what Jim Davis talks like. He calls everyone baby. Oh, you really get Nermal's voice, baby.
Starting point is 01:23:30 So in other words, I don't have proof for this, but he's my example of if nepotism gave you a shot and then you literally just had nepotism. Yeah. And then, you know, everybody just. How far can no talent and just the nepotism take you? Yeah. I think that's fair.
Starting point is 01:23:47 You probably get one top ten hit. People are like, he's got to get something from those jeans. And now he does charity work in photography, which is the other, which is a perfect thing for nepotism. He gives his photos to homeless people. Can you imagine getting into music? Your dad's fucking John Lennon or Bob Dylan and you get into music? I know. Crazy.
Starting point is 01:24:09 I'm trying to think like your dad or mom had to have had like limited success or like some success. And you could kind of still do it. Like is it Neil Finn from New Zealand who was in split ends and uh yeah don't dream it's over his son is like kind of successful and that's like the perfect amount of fame like stevie nick's daughter can't be famous right for singing that they're too famous they're too famous could never live up to it exactly yeah it's michael jordan son syndrome exactly like jimmy hendrick snake had one hit in 1971 but like that was yeah it's like but do we think that like northwest will go into music or or like blue ivy or any of them i think
Starting point is 01:24:54 they're going to just get into film distribution i think they'll just be professionally famous now like and that's what that's a thing now right influencer yeah like just like you're famous for being famous like Blue Ivy will already be like such a big and Northwest you get a check
Starting point is 01:25:10 for walking into a room right exactly and that's probably what they'll do and just keep building generational wealth on it I mean I already have the Blue Ivy app
Starting point is 01:25:17 it's great I don't know what it does it actually like will back up it'll back up an argument that you're having with a friend alright I'm done it interrupts the argument by saying It actually will back up an argument that you're having with a friend.
Starting point is 01:25:27 All right, I'm done. It interrupts the argument by saying, look how much the baby looks like Jay-Z. Isn't that too bad? One of your parents is Beyonce and you look like the other one. You look like Joe Camel. Current time for your second and third picks. Oh, God, I got to go two in a row. All right, my second one is Liv Tyler. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:48 Oh, that's a great one. That's a good one. And I think she's an interesting story because she didn't know Stephen Tyler was her dad for the first, like, ten years of her life. Really? Yeah, she didn't know. Crazy story. Yeah, she, like, figured it out when she was ten.
Starting point is 01:26:01 She kept tying, like, scarves around her bottle. Yeah, they're like. Like, she asked her mom. Yeah, they're like. Like ask, she asked her mom. I gotta go, go. Okay, sorry. Keep going. Rag doll.
Starting point is 01:26:13 Rag doll sleeping in my cribby. Oh my God. So yeah, so she like asked her mom and her mom was like, okay, yeah, cat's out of the bag.
Starting point is 01:26:24 He's your dad. But he was too addicted to drugs, I guess, when she asked her mom, and her mom was like, okay, yeah, cat's out of the bag. He's your dad. But he was too addicted to drugs, I guess, when she was first born. So the mom, like, kept her away. And then they formed this close relationship later in life. And then he, like, put her in his music videos as sort of the sexy chick. The hottest woman Sean had ever seen. Oh, my God. Which is weird.
Starting point is 01:26:43 But also, like, I don't even know if she's working anymore. She was like huge. Oh no she is. She was on she's on like Harlots I believe. No she's on some
Starting point is 01:26:51 big show now. She's on like This Is Us or not that but like I just saw her in something she was great at. Let me look. Keep talking I'll tell you.
Starting point is 01:26:59 I thought maybe she was Kate Hudson-ing a little bit because she was this huge indie darling with like Empire Records and all that. She was huge. She was in Lord of the Rings. Oh, that's right. Duh. Yeah, she was in Lord of the Rings.
Starting point is 01:27:12 She was in That Thing You Do. She was in Armageddon. She was like in the video for Armageddon. Which was perhaps even more memorable than the role of Armageddon. But then like mid-2000s, I feel like she or late 2000s, she was sort of dropping off. I call it Armageddon. But then like mid-2000s, I feel like she, or late 2000s, she was sort of dropping off.
Starting point is 01:27:26 I call it Jersey Girl syndrome. She was in Jersey Girl, which is an incredibly bad movie. Ben Affleck. Yeah, and I think it kind of tarnished her a little bit. And then she was in that tweener Incredible Hulk movie, too. Yes, and she also married, I believe, the lead guitarist in Space Hogs. She did. Well, actually, this is saying they did get married, I believe, the lead guitarist in Space Hogs? She did. Well, actually, this is saying
Starting point is 01:27:46 they did get married, they had a kid, and I think their marriage only lasted like a few years, and now she's with us. Gotta go! Oh, wait, she's with someone? Now she's with a sports and entertainment manager. Oh, okay. Never mind, I'm staying. Who's British. She's with a British guy. Oh, makes sense.
Starting point is 01:28:02 He manages footy players. Footy. She's in Harlots now, and she's in The Leftovers. makes sense he manages footy players yeah footy yeah she's in Harlots now and she was in The Leftovers oh I didn't watch The Leftovers
Starting point is 01:28:10 but my husband like was obsessed I love Liv Tyler I love her so much yeah I do too 100% approval rating over here but she you know
Starting point is 01:28:17 she's somebody who's like last name was like I mean Buell no that is something her mom was Bebe Buell
Starting point is 01:28:25 Yeah But she went by Liv Rundgren Rundgren? Todd Rundgren Like cause Bebe Buell She dated Elvis Costello Steven Tyler
Starting point is 01:28:34 And Todd Rundgren I had no idea Liv Tyler's mom Was Bebe Buell Yeah I had no Oh wow And then
Starting point is 01:28:38 She also dated Joaquin Phoenix For three years So she Like she Would've Just been Nobody And then Kind of just Whodunit Like Nancy drewed it for three years. So she would have just been nobody and then kind of just whodunit,
Starting point is 01:28:48 like Nancy drewed it that her dad was fucking Steve Tyler. When she looked in the mirror and realized she just saw a mouth. Yeah. She is mostly mouth. My dad's either Steven Tyler or the Rolling Stones logo.
Starting point is 01:29:03 I remember as a kid, watching MTV, being like eight years old or whatever, and could not for the life of me tell the difference between Steven Tyler and Mick Jagger. I was like, that's the same guy. I had the same problem. Yeah. And I think part of it was the Rolling Stones logo looked like Steven Tyler's mouth. It fucked me up when I was a kid. I think I thought they were the same bands for a long time as a little kid. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:25 Yeah. Yeah. And then it turns out we were right because who cares about either fucking band? My dad. All right, Kara, your next pick. Okay, that's my pick. I'm going to do a pick of somebody that I feel like I hate that she's benefited from nepotism because I don't think she's talented. And that is Dakota Johnson. Oh! Yes. She's on. And that is Dakota Johnson.
Starting point is 01:29:45 Yes. She's on my list for the same reason. I just think she has the charisma of a toenail and she's fucking out there getting all these roles
Starting point is 01:29:54 and she's bad. She's nothing. She's whole wheat bread. I would love to work with her. I love whole wheat bread. Sending you a script. But like, yeah, her parents are Melanie Griffith and Don Johnson.
Starting point is 01:30:08 Another cool set of parents. Yeah, they used cocaine as a condom. Turns out you can't do that. A baby will come out. Cocaine as a condom? You wouldn't feel anything. You didn't have to. Neither will she.
Starting point is 01:30:26 So she's like, you know, she's dating Chris Martin from Coldplay now. They're having a kid, aren't they? That's perfect. That's the rumor
Starting point is 01:30:34 is that they're having a kid because they had what very much looked like a gender reveal party but it wasn't. They were just revealing Coldplay. She's not pregnant.
Starting point is 01:30:42 Coldplay's new album color. They just found out about the color pink, so they were like, look. There was some kind of balloon arch, and they let balloons go, and everybody thought it was a gender reveal party. Anyway, I think she's not talented and should not have been allowed to do anything that she's done. In the same vein, can I just say, you mentioned that chick from, whose dad was the Disney guy from Magic Mike. What was it called? Cody Norton. I remember seeing Magic Mike in the theater.
Starting point is 01:31:10 We saw it together. Yeah, and being like, I love that movie. I loved that movie. But, oh my God, the wooden performance by whoever that girl is took me out of it. I'm like, I'm supposed to believe that this super smoking hot dude that every male, every female in this room and most of the males
Starting point is 01:31:28 want to have sex with now is into that chick. Are you kidding me? Maybe that's why I have no idea who she even is. Like, it didn't work out for her
Starting point is 01:31:35 after that movie. It didn't. Yeah. People make weird choices, you know? And I think that Dakota Johnson is pretty, but she's not even like
Starting point is 01:31:44 Who are her parents again? Melanie Griffith and Don Johnson. She's pretty, but she's also like the. Don Johnson is like your style icon. Oh, no, I like. They're very famous, very good looking people. And he was so hot when he was in Miami Vice. And she was hot before she fucked with her face.
Starting point is 01:32:01 Melanie Griffith was very, very popular. I'm just saying talent wise, they weren't like, you know, incredible actors. Melanie Griffith was very, very popular. I'm just saying, talent-wise, they weren't incredible actors. Oh, sure. I guess that's true. Melanie Griffith was better. Don Johnson is known as a piece of shit. No, it's not! No.
Starting point is 01:32:16 I mean, I don't even know. Maybe Melanie Griffith was great. I don't really remember. Melanie Griffith was probably better than Don Johnson. Don Johnson was a TV actor, but he was like a hot guy. He was funny in Eastbound and Down. He was. And I think Don Johnson's quality was he made your mom want to masturbate. Right.
Starting point is 01:32:33 Yeah. And then coincidentally, she was in Fifty Shades of Grey, which also made your mom want to masturbate. Yeah. Honestly, that's what happens, man. Moms come. I have a connective tissue. You know what's so funny is me and my mom caught each other masturbating to Don Johnson
Starting point is 01:32:48 at the same time. And now we call that a Miami vice. I love how that implies that one of you was moving while masturbating. Someone was in motion. I'm like, hey, mom, is there something in the air tonight? When she knocks on the door, that's when it's to that cadence. Dakota Johnson is an amazing pick. Yeah, because not great.
Starting point is 01:33:14 Thank you. She's beautiful, but also has had an entire life of the Hollywood machine being all the advantages to make yourself more and more beautiful. So if she had grown up in... But in interviews, she's boring. On SNL, she's boring. She got a ton of opportunity. She was like a star of a sitcom, Ben and Kate. Then from that, got the lead in Fifty Shades.
Starting point is 01:33:36 Yeah. And then like I just saw this movie, Bad Times at the El Royale. I just saw it too. Which I really liked, except for her. She's bad. She was the worst part of it. She was in that rom-com that came out that like ate shit, right? With Rebel Wilson.
Starting point is 01:33:49 How to be single. Yeah. And I was like, you're making her the girl that other girls are supposed to like relate to and root for? Like she's a piece of wood. Like yeah, no one's into it. So anyway, you shouldn't all put your kids into your same field because some of them are going to suck at it.
Starting point is 01:34:05 You're going to get as many Dakota Johnsons as you get Kay Hudson's. Julian, tell me your third pick. I mean, all of mine, I guess, are going to be— Name Julian. Are there any more Julians? We've already talked about him a bunch. Julian Hulk Hogan Jr.? We've already talked about him a bunch, but Jacob Dillon.
Starting point is 01:34:24 Okay. We've already talked about him a bunch, but Jacob Dillon. Okay. Because he's kind of, I think, the opposite of Julian Lennon, where he could have been a model. I mean, that guy is so unbelievably good looking. He picked up Bob Dillon's flaws. Because Bob Dillon was like a good looking young guy, but he had some flaws. Jacob Dillon fixed it because Bob Dillon dipped his pen in the writing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:53 I mean, Jacob Dylan looks like a Snapchat filter put on Bob Dylan. I mean, it's incredible. It does. So he could have done whatever. He could have just been extremely handsome and rich. And rich, yeah. But he wrote a decent album. I mean, it's a decent album.
Starting point is 01:35:05 I love One Headlight and Fifth Avenue Heartache. Those are great songs. You know, there's another Dylan brother and he also is in the entertainment industry. Is there really? Yeah, Jesse Dylan
Starting point is 01:35:14 who directed American Pie 3. Shut the fuck up. I swear to God. That's Bob Dylan's son. Yes. Wow. Wow. I guess you say yes because it's like, yeah, I want to work, but... Oh, my God. Oh. Wow. I guess you say yes because it's like,
Starting point is 01:35:25 yeah, I want to work, but... Oh, man. Is that the reunion? Wouldn't you just pay your son not to do that? Jesse, how's work going? Like, they're at fucking Thanksgiving dinner. Oh, what's
Starting point is 01:35:40 Eugene Levy like? After he got passed over for the first two, he was like, do you know who my father is? And then they let him direct that. Oh, you can direct it. That's the funniest thing. Oh, so in this one, there's a Eugene Levy walking on Jason Biggs, like masturbating in a church or something. What is he fuck?
Starting point is 01:36:01 Is it a turkey? What is he fucking this one, son? What is he fuck? Is it a turkey? What is he fucking this one? I know you signed the NDA, but I need to know. What's Jason Biggs thinking is digging in this one? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:36:21 I think it's almost, this is going to sound crazy, and I'm wrong. That's why it's going to sound crazy. But it's almost harder to make it in music if your dad is Bob Dylan than it is if you're no one. I feel that's probably true to an extent. I mean, maybe you get a shot, but probably to stick around, it would be harder. I feel like it's almost better to have your dad be a studio musician for Dylan. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 01:36:39 Absolutely. You've got some kind of in, but it's never they were a huge name that you have to live up to. And then to keep the name. To not branch. He looked different enough that people would have been like... Liv Tyler immediately changed her last name to Tyler
Starting point is 01:36:54 at age 12. She was like, I know what's up. I'm not a Rundingrin? Thanks for adopting me and taking care of me, Todd Lundgren. Bye! Todd Lundgren, I love, I love, love, love that song about how you don't want to work, but you want to bang on your drums all day. But my dad's Steven fucking Tyler. I'm going to go with him.
Starting point is 01:37:18 I was going to say, but I hate the flute, but that's Jethro Tull. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, have you ever seen pictures of a dude from Jethro Tull back in the Jethro Tull days? No. Crazy looking. Yeah, I remember. Wasn't he like a troll looking guy? He looked like a fucking troll. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:28 And he played the flute, which is a troll-ass instrument. I remember my drug adjunct was always like, oh, you got to see Jethro Tull live. The guy makes you go crazy. I'm like, okay. I'm like, that sounds weird. You got to see Jethro Tull live. You gotta see it. Just wrote Toll Live. You gotta see the Toll. It's not the same thing. You gotta, it's the album.
Starting point is 01:37:48 It's not like the strokes where it's the exact same thing. Oh yeah, wow. That's exactly what you kind of would think. He's a real weird looking dude. That's fun. This Wikipedia says under children for Bob Dylan, six, including Jesse and Jacob Dylan. Wow. So like they're the only two that even get anything.
Starting point is 01:38:03 Yeah. Yeah, therefore it's like we don't even put their names not linked in the Wikipedia. I cured HIV, but I guess I didn't direct American Pie 3. I do like that Jacob Dillon tried to like do mini like Bob Dylan lyrics in some of those songs. Like, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:20 I don't know. Like me and Cinderella put it all together. Like that doesn't mean anything. No, of course. Yeah, it's just like it's like your first thought poetry. Yeah, first thought poetry, which is kind of what Bob Dylan called it. Kind of, yeah. Stood on his shoulder, eh, saw me as cat.
Starting point is 01:38:37 And we're like, we're all stoned enough that, you know, we'll buy into that. It's the 60s. We're artists. Johnny started a fire on Main Street and shot it full of holes. What? This guy's a genius. Yeah. You got to think about it, but in a way where you don't actually analyze anything.
Starting point is 01:38:51 It was a different time back then. Back then, Mrs. Maisel was the greatest comedian that ever was. That's true. It was Mrs. Maisel. Jacob Dillon, great pick. Sean, time for you with third pick. My third pick is both a good and a bad form of nepotism
Starting point is 01:39:08 Sophia Coppola okay she's on my list too bad because of her performance in Godfather 3 which is truly the worst performance not great maybe ever I've never seen it how old is she in it she's like 13
Starting point is 01:39:24 she's older because she's Andy is she in it? She's like 13. No, she's older because she's Andy Garcia's love interest. Oh. She's like 18 years old. It was supposed to be Winona. I forgot how late The Godfather 3 came out. It was supposed to be Winona Ryder, and she couldn't get out of her Beetlejuice contract. So Francis Ford Coppola was like, easy, I got an Italian girl at home. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:43 He's like, Sophia, get out there. And then she's like, Mamma mia, my daughter sucks at acting. It's so bad. She's really bad and also a huge part of the movie. She's the emotional climax of the film, too,
Starting point is 01:40:02 with zero chop. It sucks because it's not chop it sucks because you can't it's like not her fault so you can't even make fun of her too much for it you know what I mean because it's like a kid who got thrown into
Starting point is 01:40:10 a weird situation and then do you think that's what like made her just be like I'm gonna be a director I'm gonna be a director and then that fucking worked perfectly
Starting point is 01:40:17 like she makes great movies like I really love Virgin Suicides I love Lost in Translation I love Marie Antoinette do you love those videos she makes with Isabella Rossellini where Isabella Rossellini's like an animals?
Starting point is 01:40:29 I have not seen those. Oh my God, they're wacky. Really? Yeah. I'm pretty sure Sofia Coppola directs them and they're crazy. And she's also like cool as hell. She seems very cool. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:40 And Nicolas Cage is her cousin. Yeah. And I was like, who's she married to? Not anymore. She was. She was married to? Not anymore. She was. She was married to Spike Jonze. That's a cool couple. During the cool years.
Starting point is 01:40:48 And then the other thing that I've always liked about her is her movies are her mixtapes. And she has a very similar taste in music to me. She's a Mary Chain and New Order. She's so cool. She's so cool. She's married to the and like New Order and she's so cool she's so cool she's married to the lead singer of Phoenix now
Starting point is 01:41:08 oh cool yeah they're probably super fashionable they're probably walking down the street and you're like ooh they look rich
Starting point is 01:41:14 ooh they got those high pants you know those fashionable high pants yeah yeah yeah but you know you know when she gets home she's making risotto
Starting point is 01:41:23 ooh the cup of gold. I remember, fan as well, everything you say I co-sign. Also, you can't really make fun of her. I get that too. Same time, I remember when I saw The Godfather, I was probably 15. Rented it from West Coast Video in Morristown, New Jersey on two VHS tapes. Watched it, lost my shit i was like this
Starting point is 01:41:46 is the best movie of all time yes rented godfather 2 the next day oh my god i was like oh my god this guy can't lose and then rented three and was like so sad yeah i couldn't even put it into words i didn't finish it i got like yeah half an hour in. So I'm 15, right? One time I saw Godfather 3 for 20 minutes, and I still remember how awful that was. That Sofia Coppola was so bad. And she's bad from the first shot to the very last shot. You guys are making me want to watch it. I own it.
Starting point is 01:42:20 It's almost worth it. It's worth watching because no one has lost their fastball more than Francis Ford Coppola. Oh, my God. Because in the 70s, that dude did Godfather, Godfather Part 2, Apocalypse Now, The Conversation, which is truly my favorite movie of the 1970s. And then in the 80s, he still had some hits with Outsiders and Rumblefish. But then...
Starting point is 01:42:43 Dracula? Was that him? Yeah. Bram Stoker's Dracula. That's like actually one of the better later Coppola. The weird blood muscle outfit is in their winery. Yeah. You can go see it.
Starting point is 01:42:53 Really? Yeah, in the Coppola winery. Well, they all have wine now. Yeah, grape wine. But Godfather Part 3 and Jack, he did both of those movies four years apart. Wait, what was Jack? Jack is the Robin Williams movie. He has both of those movies. Four years apart. Wait, what was Jack? Jack is the Robin Williams movie.
Starting point is 01:43:07 Where he has like a disorder. Where he ages four years for every one year he's alive. And he plays a 10 year old. It's like a reverse Benjamin Button type of thing. Yeah, where a 10 year old falls in love with J-Lo. It's a weird movie. So, Sofia Coppola. That's a Francis Ford Coppola movie?
Starting point is 01:43:24 That's wild. I had no idea. Well, he used to call him Francis Ford Coppola. That's a Francis Ford Coppola movie? That's wild. I had no idea. Well, he used to call him Francis Ford Coppola joint. Yeah. Right. Right.
Starting point is 01:43:30 Yeah. That family's nuts. Are we going to take any more of the Coppola family or should we just like air it all out right now? I think we should because that is like
Starting point is 01:43:38 a dynasty. So, Talia Shire is her dad. You know, Adrian. Yeah. Nicholas Cage is a cousin. Is a cousin. Jason Schwartzman is a cousin. Talia Shire is her dad you know Adrian Nicholas Cage is a cousin
Starting point is 01:43:46 Jason Schwartzman is a cousin Talia Shire's son yeah Robert Schwartzman from Rooney and who directed the movie Unicorn
Starting point is 01:43:54 is Jason Schwartzman's brother and Talia Shire's son geez Gia Coppola who's did that movie Palo Alto yes
Starting point is 01:44:02 there's Roman Coppola who's worked with Wes Anderson a bunch, did the movie CQ, I believe. And there's Capicola, which is a meat. Capicola, yeah. Yeah. And an actual interesting thing is Hollywood Center Studios in the middle of Hollywood. Francis Ford Coppola bought that in 1983, and he planned on starting his own studio like Paramount. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:23 He went bankrupt in a year. Wow. He lost all of his money. And then what happened was his vineyard blew up and it's made him like 25 times more money than he's ever made a movie. Really? So rich.
Starting point is 01:44:37 What? Yeah. So now the wine is the breadwinner really for that? Oh, yeah. Like, wow. The wine funds everything. Shit, I had no idea. It's good wine.
Starting point is 01:44:45 What was the last thing he did? Francis Ford Coppola. Is he done now? He only directs weird artistic things. There was a movie that could only be shown if he was in the theater, and he brought his own organ player to live score it,
Starting point is 01:45:00 and he worked with Vincent Gallo a lot. Oh, weird. Well, he also directed Sideways because it was about wine, right? No. Anything that has wine in it, a lot. Oh, weird. Well, he also directed Sideways because it was about wine, right? No. Anything that has wine in it, he directed. He had to improve the wine on screen, though. I'm going to make my time for my third and fourth picks.
Starting point is 01:45:16 Okay. With my third pick, I'm going to stray out of the world of Hollywood. Oh, where are you going? And I'm going to draft Robert F. Kennedy. Oh! John F. Kennedy's little bro, who was the Attorney General of the United States,
Starting point is 01:45:32 who was gunned down in his prime. He really literally was. Literally gunned down in his prime right here in Los Angeles, California by Sirhan Sirhan. Is that who killed RFK? That's what we think. That's what we think.
Starting point is 01:45:43 That's what we think. I do want to say i'm sorry for killing robert f kennedy i'm admitting it finally you should have done that yeah what did it it was me i'm so bad i'm embarrassed by it why did you bring it up right now you're kevin mean. But keep going. He was like a guy who was very into civil rights. He was going after the mob. He was like somebody with an incredibly bright political future who probably wouldn't have got – definitely wouldn't have gotten that job so young if it weren't for nepotism. But it was a good form of nepotism except that it also led to his unfortunate and very early death.
Starting point is 01:46:24 Got to give it to people who have it handed to them and work super fucking hard. Those Kennedy boys, all of them. The Kennedy boys. I mean, I think this is a Coppola situation. Yeah. Where, I mean, like Ted Kennedy. Ted Kennedy. I mean, he was a great senator.
Starting point is 01:46:40 He killed someone. Bad person, great senator. That was rough. Yeah. He killed that guy, Johnny Chappaquiddick, that guy Johnny Chappaquiddick JFK Jr a publisher a magazine publisher
Starting point is 01:46:53 a bad pilot Jacqueline Onassis who had married in also worked in publishing there was an older brother who was older than the oldest brother in the kennedy family older than john and uh robert and ted who died i think in oh ruprecht oh in world war in ruprecht kennedy uh who died in world war ii he was a fighter pilot and then like their dad
Starting point is 01:47:19 was like well jfk yeah he called he was like it should have been you he was like one of those like it should have been cash boys yeah for real one of those, like, it should have been you. He was one of the cash boys. Yeah, for real. He was like, it should, like, you, like, he was the golden boy. He was going to be the president. Yeah. I already bought the slot. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:33 Wouldn't it be great if then JFK was like, oh, and then he did become president. His dad was still like, still though. Still. He would have been better. Still though. Yeah. I'm disappointed. And he's like, era.
Starting point is 01:47:42 I'm disappointed. And he's like, era. Yeah, because those hardworking people that have it handed to them. Like, I know. My family got nothing. And I'm still a Frodo. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:47:57 Fredo? Fredo. Not Frodo. I'm a classic Frodo. I'm a little bit of a Frodo. I eat bread out of leaves. I've got little hairy feet. Dirty fingernails. Frodo of the nine fingers.
Starting point is 01:48:10 Don't forget about all the women in the Kennedy family, though. Big little baby, big edie. This is great. The one who got a lobotomy. Yeah, the lobotomy that went wrong. Lobotomy Kennedy. Well, is it Rose Kennedy who's a huge, like, founder of the Special Olympics? A massive, like, philanthropist, I think, too?
Starting point is 01:48:29 And Ethel Kennedy's, like, the matriarch. And then I forget. And then Carolyn Kennedy is in politics, right? Yes. And then they have the young Kennedy now who's a... Who's the Arnold Schwarzenegger? Oh, the Shrivers. Oh, the Shrivers.
Starting point is 01:48:43 Army Hammer. Or no, Chris Pratt is marrying him, right? Yes. He's marrying the youngest, the Shrivers. Oh, the Shrivers. Army Hammer, or no, Chris Pratt is marrying in, right? Yes, he's marrying the youngest, the daughter. Yeah. Catherine. Yeah. They met at church. That'll work out.
Starting point is 01:48:54 Killsong! I gotta say, meeting at church reminds me of one of the best, I was doing crowd work one time, and I asked this kid, I go, where'd you meet your lady? And he said, church. And I said, did you have an opening line? And he goes, uh, yeah. He goes, yeah. Uh, Hey, my name's, my name's Danny or whatever.
Starting point is 01:49:13 Uh, what'd he say? We meet back here the same time next week. That's pretty good for a church joke. That's a good church line. That's a good church joke. Absolutely. That's a kind of, it's like sort of a Wrangler jeans joke. I'm into it.
Starting point is 01:49:24 Oh, that's a great way to describe them. Right, yeah a Wrangler jeans joke. I'm going to do it. You know? Oh, that's a great way to describe them. Right, yeah. The Wranglers. Somebody who wears a lot of Wrangler jeans might tell that joke. And that's beautiful. That's fine. Here's a tribute to the serpentine nature of this draft. I have no idea whose turn it is.
Starting point is 01:49:36 It's me again. Still here. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then we'll breeze through the fifth. We'll make the fifth round a speed round because we've been here for so long. And I appreciate it, but I don't want to take up your whole night. With my last pick, I'm going,
Starting point is 01:49:46 or no, my fourth pick, I'm going to take Laura Dern. Oh, hell yeah. You're Dern right I am. So her dad is, is her dad Bruce Dern?
Starting point is 01:49:55 Bruce Dern. Nebraska's own Bruce Dern. He's really good. Yeah, he's awesome. What a creep. She's fucking awesome. And then she's awesome too. She's amazing.
Starting point is 01:50:05 Yeah. Jurassic Park and I'm sure she's awesome. What a creep. She's fucking awesome. And then she's awesome too. She's amazing. Yeah. Jurassic Park, and I'm sure she's worked since then. She's in everything. She is in everything. She is. She was in Enlightened, which only got two seasons on HBO,
Starting point is 01:50:17 but people loved it. Yes. People loved Enlightened. Enlightened is probably in my top five of all time. Yeah. She's in the best Star Wars. Oh, yeah. Oh, this is doing this. We're not doing this, right she's in the best Star Wars oh yeah we're not doing this
Starting point is 01:50:26 right anytime somebody brings up Star Wars I have to say we're not doing this did you guys watch the new Twin Peaks no
Starting point is 01:50:32 oh you didn't is she in it yeah she's in it she plays crazy so good her face is she has crazy face yeah
Starting point is 01:50:39 and it's incredible she's great in Big Little Lies and she's in the new she's in the Little Women movie that. Greta Gerwig. Greta Gerwig is making. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:50 So that's going to be pretty good. Yeah, Laura Dern is amazing. Great. Her dad, Bruce Dern, was in the first Great Gatsby movie I ever saw. I'll never forget him. I don't like him. Started out in the silent films, I believe. Bruce Dern.
Starting point is 01:51:04 Bruce Dern. He was in, did any of you watch Big Love? Yeah. I didn't like him. Started out in the silent films, I believe. Bruce Dern. He was in, did any of you watch Big Love? I didn't watch Big Love. Oh, in Big Love, he was like this really mean character, and he would piss in the sink and stuff. Oh, cool. Was that mean? He was really this horrible guy. I do that in my kitchen.
Starting point is 01:51:23 It's way greener to pee in a sink. It always made sense to me to pee in the sink. Okay, I'm sorry I brought it up. It's a class act. It's good, actually. You're just jealous because it would be so hard for a woman to piss in the sink. You've got to get all the way up there. Honestly, you're risky physically.
Starting point is 01:51:40 Yeah, I wouldn't do it. Maybe get a lower sink. Wasn't Bruce Dern in Tremors? He wasn't in it. He was in Monster back in 2003. And then you were thinking of The Astronaut Farmer. Moving on. Oh, that's what it was.
Starting point is 01:51:52 Lauren, Sean, do you have a fourth pick? My fourth pick is one of the rare times the kid surpasses his way in. Going into the world of sports, Ken Griffey Jr. What a great pick! His dad was part of the Big Red Machine. his way in. Going into the world of sports, Ken Griffey Jr. Ooh! What a great pick! His dad was part of the Big Red Machine. They won many World Series in the 1970s. He obviously was super talented.
Starting point is 01:52:16 Ken Griffey? Yeah, but the fact that he was Ken Griffey Jr., you get a little bit of a push. Yeah. All of a sudden, at 18, they're like, you could probably play in the majors tomorrow. And he could. Yeah, and he did. did the kid did and he was fucking awesome and uh yeah i mean junior it might still be the most marketable baseball player he's my favorite player of all time he was so cool but what do you mean marketable like if you if you like walked into a room with 100 people in it and
Starting point is 01:52:42 you had some pictures of like baseball players and were like, can you name these people? Can you name Bryce Harper? Can you name Mike Trout? Can you name Manny Machado? No, I mean like right now. I think the Virginia's not so around though. No, but I think more people will probably recognize him than any of their current stars. And it's true
Starting point is 01:52:59 because he was in the 90s when you would pick someone from each sport. You had Wayne Gretzky in the NHL. You had Jordan in the NBA. You had Ken Griffey Jr. Ken Griffey Jr. stood out because he was truly the first baseball player to wear his hat backwards. And take batting practice.
Starting point is 01:53:18 And he angered the old white male writers because he did that. That's how you stand out. When you play the game the right way, it's boring as hell. Right, exactly, yeah. You don't stand out. No, he looked cool. He didn't have sleeves. No, he looked so cool.
Starting point is 01:53:33 He looked so cool. His swing is one of the most beautiful things of all time. It's so pretty. It's so pretty. Oh, my God, I love Ken Griffey Jr. so much. That's what bugs me about, I don't have a whole lot to say about sports really but i do i do get annoyed when people when they rate the best ofs of all time yeah that they don't bring in the beauty of the player as they played the game oh i think that's so important i
Starting point is 01:53:56 think that's the most one of the most important things and it's why i know i'll never understand this whole lebron versus jordan thing i'm like, watching Jordan play looked like he was underwater. He was like ballet. LeBron is, well, he'll do things, though, that are beautiful in a different way. In a different way. Yeah, like, LeBron is the evolution of the game.
Starting point is 01:54:18 It's the equivalent of like, have you ever seen the Universal Soldier movie? In the sequel, they introduce a more universal soldier. That's LeBron James. It's kind of like, it's like your You know what it is? It's like fly fishing
Starting point is 01:54:34 versus these bass masters. Or like David Spade versus James Spader. LeBron and Spader. But anyway, Ken Griffey was a beautiful, he played the game and it looked beautiful when he played it. He was a five-tool player, loved Ken Griffey Jr.
Starting point is 01:54:48 And you know what? Hey, if it was nepotism that got you in the door, you made the game your own. Yes, he did. Yes, he did. And then we saw him years later
Starting point is 01:54:56 in a Macklemore and Ryan Lewis music video. Whoops. Good job, Ken Griffey Jr. But he's nerfect. Let's keep it moving. Julian, time for your fourth pick. My fourth pick is Mike Lawrence.
Starting point is 01:55:08 The writer? The stand-up comedian. The comedian? Because his mom was a comedian. Oh, that's so funny. Because his mom was a comedian. He's Allison Cohen. That's an amazing pick.
Starting point is 01:55:18 I don't think he ever would have made it onto Live at Gotham. You never would have won Rose Battle without his mom. I don't think so. That's very funny. I think, hey, what happens to the children of stand-ups? We don't talk about that paint enough. Hopefully they become lawyers. They look like Mike Lawrence.
Starting point is 01:55:35 She sure gave him a leg up to seven years at McDonald's. And then his stand-up career. Classic. And much like Ken Griffey Jr., he makes it look beautiful. He does. He makes a beautiful game with him. He does.
Starting point is 01:55:48 That's so funny. Mike Lawrence is my dad's favorite stand-up comedian. Oh my God, that's so funny. He saw him, yeah, when we were at,
Starting point is 01:55:54 he used to come to some of the shows I emceed at Helium. I don't think, when I met you, I don't think he came to those shows. But I met Sean O'Conn's
Starting point is 01:56:02 at Helium in Portland. We had that one magical weekend. We did weekend we did we did but my he came to a show that i was emceeing and mike lawrence was featuring at and uh i forget who was headlining but he like will always talk about mike lawrence still and like that guy was so funny yeah he's hilarious you should talk about your family more like him you know he hates them i know i'll talk about you then but like i kind of like my dad so i don't want to like do that yeah i think it feels like a different relationship yeah i think completely different
Starting point is 01:56:30 but like he's like you should talk about your your family more but uh he'll still ask how mike lawrence is doing and i'm like pretty good you're like honestly as good as it's gonna get he's got health insurance he has a wife he's even happy yeah you know what i like about mike lawrence having health insurance? He has a wife? He's even happy. You know what I like about Mike Lawrence having health insurance? You can't tell. Shout out to Mike Lawrence. He didn't let it get to his head. Health insurance is pretty good, but it's not full, like, blood exchange.
Starting point is 01:57:00 Right. You can't have a blood surrogate or anything. Mike Lawrence, that's hilarious. Are there any successful stand-up comedians whose parents were successful stand-up comedians?
Starting point is 01:57:11 Okay, wait. Mr. T's daughter. No, that doesn't count. Okay. I was just going to say that's a stand-up comedian who is the son of somebody famous because Mr. T's
Starting point is 01:57:19 daughter does stand-up. Well, TJ Miller's sister does it. Okay. That's like one. John Mulaney's sister's a writer. Oh yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 01:57:27 And actually a funny stand up. She doesn't really do it a lot, but she is funny. She is funny. Yeah, she did a good look. She's really funny when she does, she's like done my little shows sometimes
Starting point is 01:57:34 and she's funny. Tony, or Chris Rock's brother, right? Tony Rock. Tony Rock. Isn't he older? Charlie Murphy was really funny.
Starting point is 01:57:41 Freddie Prinze Jr. was probably a riot. Oh yeah. That's right. That is true. But that's a great question. Like Melissa Rivers is famous, but didn't do stand-up. Didn't do stand-up.
Starting point is 01:57:54 She's not as funny as Jover. I mean, I'm waiting on Louis C.K.'s daughter's fingers crossed. Hey, you know they got what it takes emotionally. Wow. See, there you have it. We're the most pure art form. We're not an art form. but we're the most pure whatever. I think we are an art form.
Starting point is 01:58:09 The beauty of comedy is nepotism does not work in it. It doesn't really work. It really doesn't. That is interesting. Yeah. All right, cool. Kara, time for your fourth and then your final picks. Wait, I go two in a row again?
Starting point is 01:58:22 Yeah. This is the last time, though. This is the last day. This will ramp her up. Okay, okay, okay. Well, but I did Allison, Dakota, Liv, and... Allison, Dakota, and that's it so far. Oh, and Liv Tyler.
Starting point is 01:58:34 Okay, okay, got it. Okay, my fourth pick is Mariska Hargitay. Very good. That's a good one. I want to tell you guys I am caught up on SVU so it's in its 20th season
Starting point is 01:58:48 I've seen every episode of SVU that's crazy I watch it week by week when it comes out Dick Wolf isn't caught up on that show like I have seen
Starting point is 01:58:55 every episode more than one time I like I'm a real SVU head I get it I don't know you could just you slide into that show
Starting point is 01:59:03 like a warm bath and then it's three hours later. Of course, it's on USA all the time. But then I'm also on the NBC watching it when it comes out reg. So I'm a big SVU head. So love Mariska. She is like the daughter.
Starting point is 01:59:15 So she is the daughter of Mickey Hargitay, who was a bodybuilder. Yeah. One of America's first strongmen. Yeah. And an actor as well. Yeah. Right. And then Janet Lee, I think. No, Jane Mansfield. Yeah, and an actor as well. Yeah. Right? And then, wait, Janet Leigh, I think was-
Starting point is 01:59:28 No, Jane Mansfield. Oh, Jane Mansfield. Oh, my God. Why did I make that up? Yes. Jane Mansfield, who was kind of like, according to my husband, she was kind of like a sort of a sexy movie star. Yeah, she was-
Starting point is 01:59:38 Wait, you don't know who Jane Mansfield was? I don't really know who she was. Oh, my God. She was kind of like- She had the best rack in the business, which was her. Right. She was not like- But like Marilyn Monroe. That's what she was famous for. But Marilyn Monroe was a better actress. But Jane Manfield, have you ever seen the picture of Sophia Loren judging?
Starting point is 01:59:54 She's looking down her chest. It's Jane Manfield. Yeah, I've seen that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think I thought she was maybe more of a Veronica Lake type, but she wasn't that classy. She was like more. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:06 Like Marilyn Monroe. Straight bombshell. Got it. She was hot enough to marry America's strongest man. Yeah. I love that America is such a young country that we didn't have a strong man until the 50s. The 50s. Also, if you see a picture of Mickey Hargitay, there are nine people at the Glendale 24-Hour Fitness right now who have better bodies than him.
Starting point is 02:00:24 Yeah, I know. There are nine people at the Glendale 24-Hour Fitness right now who have better bodies than him. But in the 1950s, he was like, all right, I've eaten two full chickens. Now let's fight. He's too ready. He got buff during rationing, so they were like, oh, that's amazing. Back then, all you had to do was suck your gut in, and you were like a strong man. If you kick sand on enough nerds, you became a strong man. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:45 So she's their daughter and she was in the car when they got into a car accident. They killed Jay Mansfield. She was in the car? Yeah, she was in the car. Her and her brother survived. She, you know, has gone. I mean, like, I think it's interesting to me because like, obviously doors were open to her because Mickey Hargitay was famous and stuff.
Starting point is 02:01:04 But then she just did SVU. Like, she doesn't do anything else. No, and she's also one of the people who, like, far exceeded, like, her parents. Right. She's been on SVU for 20 years. 20 seasons. 20 seasons, yeah. She can buy and sell America's 10 strongest men.
Starting point is 02:01:27 They work for her now. Yeah. So I think that her nepotism is kind of like. That's an interesting nepotism. She has a cool like. Because like I feel like Christopher Maloney was like, I'm going to leave SVU. Go do movies. Go do different shows.
Starting point is 02:01:41 She's like, I'm good. Like same production schedule. I work eight months a year. Like, yeah. Yeah. She probably is. I mean, she's like I'm good like same production schedule I work eight months a year like yeah she probably is I mean she's just living it up she's best friends with Debra Messing
Starting point is 02:01:50 she's like one of the rare people who has who's like acts on a television show where it's kind of like working in an office at this point where it's just like the same people every day and now she's EP of it too she sometimes directs episodes like I'll an office at this point. Right. Where it's just like the same people every day. And now she's EP of it too.
Starting point is 02:02:05 She sometimes directs episodes. I'll take that career. Yeah, this victim? Yeah. Not special enough. She's probably given the other actors line reads. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Try it.
Starting point is 02:02:17 You know, that's not doing it for me. That's not how you would unload a box. All right. I've done 7,000 episodes of this, you piece of shit. Mariska Hargaday. Perfect. And your final pick. Okay, fifth and final pick.
Starting point is 02:02:32 I don't know what to do. I'm going to go with Charlie Sheen. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. I mean, it's good. Nepotism opened the doors and has kept him around. Yes.
Starting point is 02:02:46 We'll say young Charlie Sheen smoke show smoke show so hot hot shots hot shots Charlie Sheen was like my fucking
Starting point is 02:02:54 hot shots part dude I loved hot shots Charlie Sheen I thought he was so hot and funny Julie's talking about 11 year old Charlie Sheen I'm talking about platoon Charlie Sheen
Starting point is 02:03:03 was he really how old I don't think I've seen platoon platoon is the same as like major league Charlie Sheen? No, I'm talking about Platoon Charlie Sheen. Was he really? I don't think I've seen Platoon. Platoon is the same as like Major League Charlie Sheen. Major League.
Starting point is 02:03:09 Yeah, same. Major League. That whole era. He was a hunk. Like Ferris Bueller, he looks like a bad boy. But you guys, I like funny guys,
Starting point is 02:03:16 so Hot Shots is what I go for. True, true, true. I like Hot Shots. I personally liked him in Lucas. I thought he was really great in Lucas. Oh yeah, Lucas with
Starting point is 02:03:22 Sean Astin? What's his name? No, that's not Lucas. I thought he was really great in Lucas. Oh, yeah, Lucas with Sean Astin. What's his name? No, that's not Lucas. Lucas is with Corey Haim. Corey Haim. Corey Haim. They are so interchangeable to me. Sorry.
Starting point is 02:03:34 And Winona Ryder looking like a young Conor Oberst. Oh, man. Conor Oberst with a vagina. That's your type. It truly is. Who's Conor Oberst making music vagina That's your type It truly is I love Who's Conor Oberst Making music with now
Starting point is 02:03:47 One of the Phoebe Bridgers Phoebe Bridgers Yeah That's right One of the Ryan Adams That's very exciting
Starting point is 02:03:53 Non-friends Oh yeah Disciples Let's call them disciples Charlie Sheen That's a great one Yeah Brother of Emilio Estevez
Starting point is 02:04:01 Son of Martin Sheen Martin Sheen Yeah That's a good one Haver of the HIV Haver Yeah Brother of Emilio Estevez, son of Martin Sheen. Martin Sheen. Yeah. That's a good one. Haver of the HIV. Haver of, yeah. Possessor of tiger blood.
Starting point is 02:04:14 They don't talk a lot about why he went with Sheen, but like Emilio Estevez went a different way. Yeah. So the real last name is Estevez. Estevez. Yeah. Martin Sheen went with it because he started acting at a time where he had to change the Estevez. And I think Emilio just
Starting point is 02:04:30 chose to honor his family's actual heritage while Charlie went... I think Emilio was... He went with cocaine. I think Emilio was actually the talented one at first in the 80s. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:45 He was getting roles before Charlie was. And so Charlie wanted to use his dad. Family name. Yeah. Use the nepotism. So good example of. Yeah. How to.
Starting point is 02:04:56 Because I think a lot of people don't even know Emilio Estevez is related. Yep. Interesting. He did it all on merit. And then he did Mighty Ducks 3 and has never acted again. If you're listening. He's listening. Come back, Emilio.
Starting point is 02:05:08 Come back, Emilio. We're ready for you again. He did something in 2018, but I don't think it was anything good. America cries for Emilio. Excellent pick, Charlie Shane. Julian, time for your final pick. You're not going to fucking believe this. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:05:23 I'm not even making this up. And we're done. I'm done. It's Emilio Estevez. Isilio estes is it really it was emilio that was your pick i'm sorry yeah no it's fine no it's good good we're in the lightning round see how ready we are for you yeah yeah you already talked about them i uh together i never understood why because when you look back at his performances, they're genuinely good. I think so, too. Breakfast Club, you know, whatever you want to say about the script or whatever. Yeah, Young Guns.
Starting point is 02:05:52 Yeah. Lost Boys. Not Lost Boys. Repo Man. Outsiders. Yeah. And Men at Work when they were together. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:00 Mighty Ducks. He was. He really was good, and I never understood what happened. He wanted to be a director. I know he directed a few movies. Oh, guys, wait a minute. Our prayers are answered. Emilio Estevez has a movie being released on my due date, April 5th, 2019, that is called The Public.
Starting point is 02:06:18 It is a film by Emilio Estevez. It's got Alec Baldwin, Jenna Malone, Taylor Schilling, Christian Slater, and Jeffrey Wright, and Gabrielle Union. It's got a big cast of people. That's actually a good cast. Hard to say which way. That could go either way, though. All those actors could go either way. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:36 I bet he booked them by being like, hey, follow me on Twitter so I can DM you. It's about a library. Okay. Losing interest. it's about a library okay losing interest is it haunted like in the Ghostbusters it's like they should make another one of those Sean time for your final pick
Starting point is 02:06:56 my final pick Jennifer Aniston her dad was of course on days of our lives for like 40 years his name was something very Greek, right? Yeah. It's like Onassis. It's like something super Greek.
Starting point is 02:07:09 Oh, what? Yeah. Yeah. He played Victor Kyriakis, but his real name is Giannis Anitos Anastasios. Wow. Damn. And his daughter used all of that Greek nepotism to become one of the most successful people in Hollywood. The smart water spokeswoman.
Starting point is 02:07:28 Yes, I love Jennifer Aniston. She had some of the first nipples I ever saw on television. Important. Yeah. Important nipples. Because the Friends set must have been freezing cold. All the time. Sean, we gave away our podcast name.
Starting point is 02:07:43 It's Important Nipples. We talk about everybody's It's Important Nipples. Important Nipples. We talk about everybody's first experience with nipples. Alec Baldwin, also Important Nipples. Jennifer Aniston. She was on the Late Late Show promoting dumpling. And I got out of an elevator she was about to get on. And she gave me a brief up and down.
Starting point is 02:08:03 I don't think she was checking me out. on and she gave me a brief up and down. I don't think she was checking me out, but it was enough of an up and down that there's this tiny 0.001% of my head that's like- You're jerking off to that for two years. She was checking you out. She's so beautiful in person, isn't she? I met her once in person. A comedy seller.
Starting point is 02:08:17 Gorgeous. I met her in person and was like, you are so pretty. And cool too. She was just like really fun. I met her at the comedy seller. Guess what she said to me? She reached her hand out and she goes, hi, I'm Jen. And I was like, okay. All was just, like, really fun. I met her at the Comedy Cellar. Guess what she said to me? She reached her hand out and she goes,
Starting point is 02:08:25 hi, I'm Jen. And I was like, okay. All right. No, you're not. Okay, well, I just jazzed in my pants. Jen Hanniston,
Starting point is 02:08:39 that's a great pick, man. Quick note, because I didn't say it earlier, this whole thing about kate hudson going the wrong direction because of the rom-com oh yeah right same thing befell uh or the opposite befell patrick swayze who i read was supposed to be a much bigger star for much longer yeah but refused to do because he got more he wanted to do roadhouse and Point Break. He wanted to be an action star
Starting point is 02:09:05 like Bruce Willis. So his agent was like, do chick movies. They love you. He's like, no. I'm doing Roadhouse. And then misdiagnosed his charms.
Starting point is 02:09:14 Yeah. He's not. He killed his own career. He did because he isn't like a tough looking guy. No, he's a dancer. But I love that he thought that he was a beautiful dancer
Starting point is 02:09:24 and an action hero. Yeah yeah i could dance with chicks or i could stick pool cues on people's asses i could dance around these villains i want to be in an action movie like west side story all right sorry no no not sorry at. Okay, time for the final pick. My final pick. The final pick of the draft. And I can't believe she's still on the board. I'm going to take Angelina Jolie. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:54 Daughter of John Voight. Honestly, doesn't this whole category just remind you that every single famous person is related to somebody famous? I thought her dad was Billy Bob Thornton. That's her daddy. That's her daddy, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. John Voight. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:08 John Voight. Is her dad. Has or had an estranged relationship with, right? Still, they had a terrible relationship with. I do believe anyone. Well, he's a piece of shit. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:16 I think anyone who's had a relationship with John Voight has an estranged relationship. Except for the Republican Party. Exactly. I was going to say. Clint Eastwood maybe gets calls. Yeah. Congratulations, GOP. You get John Voight. Yeah. I was going to say, Clint Eastwood maybe gets calls. Yeah. Congratulations, GOP. You get Jon Voight.
Starting point is 02:10:27 Yeah. Jon Voight. James Woods. The boys are back in town. The GOP should make one of those like Wild Hogs movies that are like those bucket list type of movies.
Starting point is 02:10:41 And it's those fucking assholes. What is it? Travolta? Who was in Wild Hogs? Is Tim Allen in one of those? Yeah, Tim Allen. It really is it Travolta who was in Wild Dogs isn't Tim Allen in one of those yeah Tim Allen it really is a GOP comedy
Starting point is 02:10:48 yeah but like one of those road trip like movies where the guys are trying to like kick off one of them's dying or something
Starting point is 02:10:52 yeah we gotta get to the RNC no it should be where they go they're like we'll build the wall and they go down and build the wall
Starting point is 02:11:00 but they have to road trip there through the deep south they have to fight Antifa to get down and then they end up befriending a Mexican family and realizing that they're wrong But they have to road trip there through the deep south. They have to fight Antifa to get down there. And then they end up befriending a Mexican family and realizing that they're wrong.
Starting point is 02:11:10 Oh, that would never happen. That doesn't happen. Ah, you fell for a trap. Now we'll murder you. But Angelina Jolie, yeah. Great one. Probably would have made it anyway. Just one of the most beautiful humans. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:11:23 Truly, I remember seeing hackers in theaters when I was 11 years old and just being like, holy shit, this person with her pixie haircut. I got to say, I swear to God I'm not trying to be a contrarian. I swear to God. But from day one with Angelina Jolie, I've had this thing where I'm like, it's like everybody literally in the world is seeing the color red and I'm seeing the color green. That's so interesting. Oh, she just doesn't do it for you. She just does not do it for me. I guess if that's what the way to describe it is, everyone's seeing one thing and you're seeing another.
Starting point is 02:11:54 I'm a contrarian. Yes. But I'm saying I'm not doing it for its own sake. But it just doesn't, it just never landed with you. Even before I was a contrarian, I didn't understand. I've got that with certain people where I can't remember them right now, but where I'm just like. Yeah, I mean, like, I think I get that with like, like, I don't like Kendall Jenner. I don't think.
Starting point is 02:12:13 Sure. Or the Hadids. The Hadids. Actually, that's definitely one of them. The Hadids, I don't understand. I do not get what people are saying in them. Yeah. When you get when you get Kourtney Kardashian, my penis is flying around the room.
Starting point is 02:12:27 You're like the 40-year-old version. It shoots off my head. It shoots off my body. Are there any dudes where they're universally hot? There's probably a lot. Oh, God. Where I'm like, I don't get it. Where I'm like, I don't get it.
Starting point is 02:12:45 Yeah. Besides Ian. Yeah, actually a lot of people, I have never ever thought Leonardo DiCaprio was good looking. Okay, that's a good one.
Starting point is 02:12:51 He's kind of trashy looking. That's how the creator thinks he's hot. When I was like 10 and he was on Growing Pains, I was like, oh, he's cute
Starting point is 02:12:59 because he was, I thought he looked my age and then I feel like he never looked older. No, he doesn't. So as I grew up, I was like, he looks the same. I'm not big into him.
Starting point is 02:13:08 He just looks worse every year, but not older. He looks the same age, but worse. He looks like he still hasn't gone to sleep. Right. Yeah. Yeah. So he's my version, I guess, of your Angelina and your Kendall Jenner. Super producer Marissa.
Starting point is 02:13:22 Wait, was Kendall the hot one or is the other one the hot one? I thought you were asking me who makes my dick fall off and fly around the room going bing bang bong. That'll be the next episode. Which we're starting right now. Two more hours. Put it on the clock. So, Angelina Jolie, that wraps it up.
Starting point is 02:13:36 That's a good one. Just to recap from the top, Kara, you went Alison Williams, Liv Tyler, Dakota Johnson, Mariska Hargitay, and then Charlie Sheen. Five important women in Hollywood. Julian, you went Julian Casablancas, Julian Lennon, Jacob Dillon, Mike Lawrence, our friend, Michael Lawrence, and then Emilio Estevez. Sean, you went Stella McCartney, Polly Shore, Sofia Coppola, Ken Griffey Jr., and then Jen Aniston.
Starting point is 02:14:05 That's going to be the guest list at my funeral. Yeah. I already know. And one of them did it. They have to find out before the end of the funeral. I hope it wasn't my buddy. I went last, and I took Kate Hudson,
Starting point is 02:14:19 Ben Stiller, RFK, Laura Dern, and Angelina Jolie. Great. The heavy hitter crew. I mean, everyone's works. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:28 Kara, you said something that I was thinking on the way here, which is this came up for me a long time ago where you start talking about who came from something. And it's overwhelming how many people came from something in this business to the point where it would have been a much more interesting list to talk about people who didn't come from anything. Even like Julia, Julia, Louis Dreyfus. Oh yeah. Or even people.
Starting point is 02:14:55 Even Julia. We all know she's like. We know shipping heirs. But she, yeah, like she comes just from a massive amount of money. Like Nick Kroll comes from a lot of money. He doesn't come from anyone you'd know of, but like. But just of money. Like Nick Kroll comes from a lot of money. He doesn't come from anyone you'd know of but like there's just people
Starting point is 02:15:07 that come from so much money that their parents are like what do you want to do and it's like got it. You know? We lost some good ones on the board. Carrie Fisher.
Starting point is 02:15:14 Oh yeah. Aquafina. Her dad is an Aquafina Aquafina boss. Oh my god. Well we I can't believe none of us picked Jaden or Willow Smith.
Starting point is 02:15:26 I know. Well, I don't really care about either of them. Hey, I do say, did you see that article that Willow Smith got mad at her parents because she was like, why did you let me do that? I didn't want to do that. What, whip my hair? Whip my hair? Yeah, she didn't want to create the banger of a fucking summer.
Starting point is 02:15:39 Well, she was basically like, I was too young and I was thrown into that and I wasn't into it. Oh, bummer. And then Jaden's like, can you actually get me another Karate Kid movie? So the kids who have made a complete identity out of the fact that their parents don't control them are pissed that their parents didn't send one out. Willow's, I guess, stayed out of the spotlight since then. Since Whip My Hair? Well, she does Red Table Talks with her mom, which are massive on Facebook. Oh, I didn't know that.
Starting point is 02:16:06 It's her and Jada and Jada's mom. So it's three generations. And like they talk to each other. It's really cool. Will Smith is a good example of someone without any nepotism. Just pure fucking charisma. Oh yeah, that's true. He didn't come from anybody special. I wanted to close this on
Starting point is 02:16:22 one person who I found out who is, so Haley Steinfeld. Oh, yeah. Is it related to Jerry Steinfeld? It's not related to Jerry Steinfeld, but her uncle is Jake Steinfeld,
Starting point is 02:16:32 otherwise known as Body by Jake. No! No! Really? Which I just thought was fucking hilarious. That's right.
Starting point is 02:16:39 He's like, you want me to open doors? Oh, I can open all the doors. Here's another one people don't know is Billy Corgan from Smashing Pumpkins yeah
Starting point is 02:16:52 he was the kid from Little Small Wonder small a lot of people is that nepotism or just a hoax I think that makes sense it's a hoax
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