An Army of Normal Folks - Tiani Shoemaker Clyde: Little Miracles for Single Moms (Pt 2)

Episode Date: August 22, 2023

Tiani found herself navigating uncharted territory as a single mother to three children. After struggling for years, she found stability as a real estate agent and felt called to help single mothers like herself, leading her to create Little Miracles. The nonprofit has helped 86 families with home improvements and has inspired an army of over 1,800 volunteers.Support the show: https://www.normalfolks.us/premiumSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hey guys, it's Bill Courtney with an Army of Normal Folks. Let's now continue with part two of our conversation with Tiani Shoemaker Clyde from Little Miracles right after these brief messages from our generous sponsors. We returned to asking Tiani, what's the payoff for all of her ever with little maricles? Gosh, you know, when I went into it, I was really hoping the families were going to be my focus like this Julie Warner. I really hope this makes a difference for her family and that she really likes her house and her cute stuff. We got, I mean this is nice stuff, you know, and these kids feel special because people took time to learn about them and

made really, there's talented people and a lot, a lot of people know how to do stuff and they would paint murals and do all kinds of cool things and get experiences for the family to look forward to later. We'd have this and I thought, wow, that's gonna be amazing to help families. But what I realized very quickly was the real people's lives that were changed through this were the volunteers. So I have said a thousand times that giving is so much more food for the soul, for the giver than the receiver. And it is such, and it is imperative to me, that over the course of the life of our podcast here,

and as we gain more and more listeners and people hear us that they understand that the payoff is you get a thousand times more than you put into it. Oh, and you hear that? You hear that? That's a cliche. It is cliche. I guess I was just cliche as crap. Why not? No, no, but you get it. But I thought I knew that. But until I experienced it and I and I watched what was happening to people and I heard them tell me things, hey, this gave me purpose. I didn't know about this, but it saved my life.

So when you were walking through the lobby of the things to do place, you picked up a pamphlet and you said, oh, here's something we can do, right? It was just right there. It was all spelled out for you. Everybody told you how you did it and there were the rules. And I mean, obviously I'm being facetious, but the point is so many people say to me, Bill, I'd love

to help, but I don't know how. Well, I want to be, I'm just a normal guy or a normal lady, and I want to go do something nice for people, and I don't know how. And they're looking for a pamphlet in a lobby that tells them how to get there, and that pamphlet doesn't exist. Yeah, and that's why that song's so powerful because there's a line in there where David Archaleta says, and you will know how to let it ring out and people around you will start to wake up too.

And it's so powerful because I felt that. I didn't know what I was doing, but I felt something and I'm just going this direction and I figured it out as I went and then everyone else around me started figuring it out and it it was a little different and that line in that song is so powerful because you know how did I not book that camera I probably still be talking about doing it someday. People was down to this you saw and felt the need and you got off your eye and you filled it.

Yeah but I didn't I mean most of the time I did it, thought, what am I doing? I'm not qualified for that. I don't know what I'm doing. What are the qualifications? Are you supposed to, I mean, there, I don't think there's a certification for going and helping another human face. Yeah, yeah, there's not.

I just, you know, you think I should know more about how nonprofits work or is this okay? I don't know what I'm doing, but it was just, just, just start and you'll figure it out. So I'm gonna say it again 1827 volunteers 86 family served 27 community serves 98 144 volunteer hours since 2013 four families a year served for nine straight years from someone who doesn't have the first clue What she's doing yeah perfect nor a dime of money to go off of really. Just a normal person doing something good for their community.

And the premise that started this entire podcast is that I don't think that our society's problems will ever be solved by the people in DC and New York, NLA, on Fox, and on CNN talking big words with lots of syllables that I can't pronounce or understand. I don't think our problems will ever be solved by them, but rather just an army of normal folks seeing a need in their communities and saying, Hey, I think I want to try to help fill that and then just figure it out and go on and do it. Yeah. And you know what?

We're all in this together. And that's the powerful part about this too is community. A lot of people are longing to be a part of something and to feel like they can make a difference. Speaking of which, what did that first mom that you did something for? What did she do on the ensuing? What what what we call projects? What do you call these things? Yeah, we call them little miracle projects. Okay. Yep. What did she do as the other Little Miracle Projects started? Guess what? She has probably been, she's been to almost, not every,

almost every single project. As a volunteer. As a volunteer. How many of your volunteers have been once served? Well, I mean, not in every single one of them, but you have almost every fount at some point. We don't always, we have the big projects and we do smaller things at Thanksgiving and Christmas.

And I never want people to feel, oh, it's one more thing, it's part of the, I'm just curious. They all, most of our army is now the community of volunteers. They had been served. They had been served. And you know what's been amazing about that for the kids?

We've had kids, I have it on video somewhere, I have one of these beautiful girls, her father was played football, had head injuries, he committed suicide, he'd had some very traumatic brain. Probably some of the CT stuff. Yeah. But very loving wife and family and just had a horrible moment there. And we did a little project for this family. And they couldn't wait to do it for other families. And one time a news guy showed up, it was snowing and he said,

what are all these kids doing here? I said, go talk to one and he happened to grab one of the girls who we had done a project for when her dad committed suicide and he said, what are you doing here on a cold day? Why does we out here? She goes, well, because my dad died and a bunch of people came and helped me and it felt so good. We just want to come and do this for other kids. And you know, we've had other kids whose dads have committed suicide and you see these kids being little mentors, little friends, support like, hey, I've been there. You know, that's phenomenal. And you, I never imagined all of that. I never imagined what it could do for that type of situation because I was hoping that moms would know,

hey, we get it, we're here for you, but to have these kids in such traumatic situation, then find purpose in their pain and they're struggle to say, hey, it's okay, we've been there and I know what that's like. And it's happened. It really is a series, a little miracle. It is, it's a trickle effect.

It's a ripple effect. I can't comprehend how many lives it's touched because of that aspect of it. So, the mom and the kids are off on their special day. And you descend on their house. And you're saying that there's 70 to 100 people, right? Yeah. I'm just wondering if I'm, you know, Fred, next door neighbor and all these people show up, people gotta come out on what in God's neighbor,

you people doing here, right? I mean, there's not like, it's a kind of a surprise, I guess, what's happening. So you're not, what happens in the neighbor? What are the neighbors doing? Okay, that's actually such a cool part of this whole thing that again, I didn't picture going in, I didn't even think about that going in.

We learned pretty quick, we gotta let the neighbors know because we want this to be a good, happy thing, right? And they're gonna be annoyed if cars are parking on their yard and doing all this. So. Yeah, and you gotta paint or DJ gonna be pretty loud. Yeah, so. We learned real quick.

And we have all these kids showing up. We also realized, you know, there's a quote of like the happiest person at the end of the day is the tiretist or something like that. Like you don't want people coming and just standing around, right? Right. We're very organized about what we have, you know,

for volunteers. You know, some people have assignments ahead of time, but there's a lot of people that show up. We need things for them to do. We gotta keep them busy. We gotta keep kids busy. So one thing is we do have little flyers that go out prior to a few days before telling the neighbors what's going on.

And we tell them we welcome them to come to the welcome home and come welcome their neighbors back whether they know them or not. Oh, it's cool. Five o'clock on Saturday, come on over, where read them to come to the welcome home and come welcome their neighbors back whether they know or not. All school. Five o'clock on Saturday, come on over where red and welcome your neighbors home. And then the day of we also have a whole committee where we have these old jars become change for change and partly just to get the kids out of the way, but have them being involved.

Sure. They're going around the neighborhood and we let them talk so they're getting the experience of like, ring the doorbell. You know, we got people who are fun with kids. So you're sitting in children out to beg? No, we're telling them. I'm kidding. This is what we're doing. And actually, they'd beg a little probably. Well, they have a jar there. Do you want to contribute? It's okay. What about, you know, can we shovel your drive or can we pull some weeds? We just make up something that they can do for a neighbor, right? Really?

That was cool. Yeah, because it's for the whole neighbor. And then we'll say, we'll come to the, come meet your neighbors. Now that's pretty cool because it lets the kids get involved, be doing things and also helps the neighbors kind of gain this momentum, feeling. What are you guys doing? Like, it's kind of fun. It's cool to see what happens because a lot of people don't know their neighbors. Yeah, that's so true. And you know what? It's been amazing. Now, that's interesting.

It gets them out of the house and then they have something common to talk about that nobody can disagree about doing something kind for your neighbor. Yeah, and you know what? Just say, hey, did you know this is a single mom? She has cancer. Oh, I had no idea. I see her out. She's seen, you know, but I don't really know her. Well, come meet her. You know, and then they get to see the process. You know, maybe they've let them never been in the house, but they see what it's like in the beginning of the day. And they see this miracle unfold and they want to be a part of it, you know?

Oh, it's just a really good, a good, a feel good scene. I mean, I'm going to go into all the, every story has conflict, every story has resolution, every story has meat, and it's not always, you know, fairy tales, and we've talked about some of that today day but sure. That really is a beautiful scene. Oh, the neighbors out there because then we say, okay, we're passing the torch. We want to be there but it's neighbors. Look out for each other.

No, your neighbor has cancer. So the neighbors end up meeting each other through this process to... A lot of times that's crazy And one day it was so cool because we had been there. No one knew this woman. She did have cancer They they she's nice and way, but she's quiet and didn't tell anybody. She didn't want the pity In fact one of the cool things I've had to talk a lot of people into letting us do this form because it's It's uncomfortable. People are proud they don't want to feel

yeah recipients of service. They don't want to feel like the pity or let people know their vulnerabilities or whatever. It's the vulnerability. Yeah. That's what it's pride and vulnerabilities. So that's a big part of this too. I wasn't expecting and that's where it's so beautiful when someone else has been served. They sometimes come along if I'm having a hard time, you know, getting them to, if I feel really strong about doing, you know, and I'll say, you know, can people are just begging for it?

Will you just get them off my back? Can we just do this for a while, you know, okay, you know? And then having someone else say they did it for me too, I know it's kind of uncomfortable, but it's so awesome. And then you get to come do this and they're like more excited about that. You know, and that's who else say they did it for me to, I know it's kind of uncomfortable, but it's so awesome. And then you get to come do this and they're like more excited about that. You know, and that's who you want to serve, right? It's not as fun when someone's like, I need this. I need, there's a lot of people out there who need help,

but they don't want to say that. Right. And we don't want them to feel like, we just got to work. And you don't want them to feel beholden. No. We don't want them to feel ashamed. No. And we, and we are a little phrase, we say, hey, it's just your turn.

Because they'll say, but no, someone else needs it. More than me, oh, I know, oh, no, no, not us. We were okay, we're okay. No, I know you're okay, but it's just your turn. It's just your, that's how it is. That's how it goes. And so, yeah, that part is awesome. This particular woman, she She it took me a little

while to convince her to let us do it. But you know what? She's this mom warrior amazing. They had like raw sub floor. Oh gosh. And they didn't have a couch and I she oh, we're fine. We're floor sitters. We like the floor. We're fine. We're fine. We're forced. That's what she told me. But of course, we got her couch, got her new flooring. And she messaged me one day after coming home from chemo. I thought we liked the floor, but this couch is so amazing. Thank you so much. How many kids did she have? She had three kids. And she was going through cancer.

Cancer. But what were kids ages? Well, she had that there were two that were like, oh, 14, 15 is real close. And then she had a younger like three or four years. She has cancer. Cancer. Neighbors didn't know. But that one was a cool one too, because this one particular family with little kids,

they were there all day. They were so excited for them. But they didn't really know her. They said, we did. What did I never say? They lived across the street. Wow. And they were there all day helping, helping, helping, working hard.

They were so excited to meet them and show them everything. And then was so cool about that the next day. It was a Sunday. I was at the amusement park in town. It was my daughter's birthday. I was exhausted from this whole thing. But I met this lagoon, this big giant amusement park. And this little girl comes running over to me

She goes I saw you at the miracle yesterday and I was like at the She called it the miracle. It was the little girl across the street And I was like oh, yeah, you know, it's had high and her mom came over and she goes oh We were at Jessica's this morning. We moved all that stuff. Oh now. It's Jessica Jessica's this morning, we moved all that stuff. Oh, now it's Jessica. Hey, Mal, they're over there. One of the talk I said, you've already, you didn't know her yesterday.

And you were there helping her move the last of the garbage that was out, like calling that away for her this morning. But before noon, that was like a moment for me. Like I was like, just man. One more of the long list of little miracles that there. I was like, wow, that is what it's all about. That is what it's all about. Neighbors just helping each other out.

That's what an army of normal folks is supposed to look like. And it doesn't matter if you've 60 or five. Yes, exactly. We'll be right back. We return now to Tiana and my question of whether she's proud of what they've accomplished. I'm thankful. I'm so thankful. I don't know. I feel, here's why. I feel, I'm sometimes the mouthpiece. There are people who, the minute, Lisa Childers, the minute I told her about this, I didn't even know she's all in.

There have been people that are there that there's so many more that I feel like I don't, I don't like to be always the mouthpiece for it because even though I always say I'm never gonna, that's why I'm like, hopefully you're not a serial killer inviting me out here but like, oh god, this is my love language. I'll talk to anybody if youth group, some putty and Memphis, what do you want to talk I don't ever want to turn it down but I also it's so much bigger it's for real I my husband he's a producer it's worse than a cigarette killer if my husband wanted to come out here I'm coming I was going with it if you just

put your head set back on and shut up. I told them the Oscar winner is not a serial killer. Shut up, put your head set off. Well, so there's one more little miracle we got in a scus. Yeah. Which is somebody made in on a swim and a view. Yeah, imagine that. How'd that happen? Well, you know, it's funny because I have found so much purpose through little

miracles. I remember saying to people, and you're still doing, I mean, this is a side gig. You're still raising your kids running the real estate gig and all that. And so you said earlier, you know, I just really went a time for some dude to come and complete your life and have the family that you really wanted. Yeah. And let me also say this about Little Maricles because I felt it's important to share with people.

Now when I rally groups, I make sure people know you're gonna want to back out. You're gonna have something come up and you're gonna not think that you have time for this or this is too chaotic, something. I'm telling you now, because almost every time I have told myself, this is too much, it's taken a toll. I really identified with, I watched your documentary with the, your role as this coach helping these kids man

You have no idea how many times I was in tears a couple times I missed things with my kids Because I was doing this and I wondered am I my priorities messed up here? This is really this is really hard what I'm gonna say what I'm gonna ask you, but I want you to be Painfully honest because I think I know the answer. Has it occurred that you felt someone in the process was in grateful and it bothered you? Oh yeah.

Yeah, the reason I'm asking that is I don't want that story because we don't embarrass anybody. But the point is, if you're going to have the temerity and the gumption and the courage and the kindness to actually get off your go to something for someone in your community, you're typically going to go into places that the world is not hunky-dory because that's where the help is needed. And often times in those places you will find people who aren't always as

thankful and gracious for the work that you're doing as you would hope. And you can't worry about them. It's the 90% of the people that are possibly affected that matter and you have to understand. There's going to be little bumps and failures along the way. It is not all peaches and cream, but ultimately it's worth it. And so I can imagine there have been times where you have been frustrated with the whole thing, and those are the times where the devil pops in your head and says, just quit. Just lay it down. Why are you doing this? You don't have to do this. You've got your own kids,

you've got your own family, you've got your work, you got to do, and then then you're going to sit here and do this for a bunch of end-grates. You can't help these folks. That happens. But what you have to do is you have to put that aside and understand that the small percentage of people that are not necessarily as appreciative as you would hope there are pale in comparison the numbers people's lives should do change. Well, what happened more times than maybe the recipient not being grateful a couple times. You know, not often, but sometimes someone else would try to tell me this wasn't. They weren't worth, why did you pick this family? Like, there was one time during a project, the neighbor kept coming to tell me, and I finally I said, the neighbor kept saying, you should be doing this for these people.

They're not worth it. Basically, like these kids are a problem. They just never do it. We've tried out, don't. Yeah, these divorced kids without a father at home, who were sad and lonely and lost and oppressed. They're not grateful. They're wild kids.

Yeah, they're just horrible kids. I stopped him. The second time he came over, we had like the BYU football players, the you top football player. We were, it was a huge project and I stopped. I said, can I tell you something? Look at all these people. Not one of them. Cares at all. They are here gaining from this experience just from serving. They don't even ask anything about the specifics. This is a mom who needs help. That's all we need

to do. You just look around. You can tell how is she living in this disaster. That's all we needed. So poundstone. So yeah, you need to zip it for all these other people here. You are ruining it for them and they don't care. Take a lesson from them. The point is, if you have the guts to get out and do something, there's going to be problems. It's hard. But again, the payoff is not just not the payoff really isn't for you, the lives that you enrich. It's how enrich your life becomes, which I'm trying to set way to and would you please answer the question. Where did this dude come from? Oh the dude well After gosh over 10 years at this point

I felt like I had met everyone in Utah really I really had I was like I've been around forever Everybody look good on the dating apps to me. It was like, I mean, you know, great pager. You say all these great, I don't know. I didn't work for me to meet people that way. And then I kind of felt like either me or a friend of the day to, I just, you know, I really was very fulfilled.

This had brought a lot of purpose. I still wanted to get married, but I was at a point where I was like, I'm okay if I don't because I, you know, I can take my kids to do things, you know, vacation now. I'm enjoying my job. This is bringing me a lot of fulfillment. Yeah, you go longer in need. Yeah, I wasn't in a place like I was before while I needed. Right, I get it. It's someone to rescue me. I didn't need to be rescuing one. Isn't it interesting when we no longer need what happens? Yeah, we're not nearly as desperate.

Not as desperate and it's like if there's someone who's gonna add to my life that I feel so really great then bring it on. If not, it's okay. So yeah, it was just a project one day. A lot of people come and go in these things and, you know, you meet a lot of people, but there was this one particular January blizzard. At a little miracle project. At a little miracle project. And he was, he was playing the drums.

No, no. He was the, he was not the DJ painter. No, he actually did paint though. Oh, maybe that's how you got. He used to paint. I have no idea. I was a rougher. Oh, oh, he used to paint. He used to paint. So he had heard about this through a friend and he had two teenage boys that he was trying. He'd been divorced quite a while. And he said, I'd heard about this from my friend and I thought, well, I used to do painting for a living, so my boys know how to do it.

This would be good for us. So he brought his sons. He brought his teenage sons. Okay, now that's pretty awesome. That got my attention. Well, he's very handsome too. So I was like, I had to make sure it wasn't one of my friends, boyfriends, or someone I was asking everybody in the morning, who's this Joe? What's his name? He's cute.

Is this somebody's? No? Okay, no, he's all right. Good, good. And I had to leave for a little bit in that project. And I remember thinking he'll probably be gone because the cute guys that would pop in, sometimes they got that apparently. There was, you know, I had a lot of cute single mom friends and there would be these guys that would show up sometimes and they didn't know how to work or the minute you put them to work, they were out, you know? So we would be like, are they just here for a picture?

Are they really gonna work? We'll be right back. Now let's return to Tiani on this male volunteer that peaked her interest. So when I got back and he was still there and it was a blizzard that day, I really was like, I gotta go talk to, I gotta see who this is, you know, and I was just kind of eavesdropping and they were just making jokes with each other. I just could, you know, even a single mom this long, I mean, people can fake anything online, but it's, it's pretty hard to fake it when you're in a blizzard doing service all day with your teenage sons. I could tell this is a legit good

good guy and these are cool kids and they respect him and I mean I started the thing and I couldn't get my teenage boys there very much you know so this was all day so I just started kind of trying to talk to him towards the end of that project a little bit. I just was like, wow, where are you guys from? And now, well, the funny thing, he came to tell me by before the party. He said, and people make fun of me. But I chaotic. I was looking for something in my card.

He touched my left arm and I kind of just got really calm. And he goes, hey, I just wanted to say thank you. This was great. And I'm like, why are you leaving? The family's just coming back. The party, you know, he's like, oh, no, we just wanted to, we just were here for that. He's kind of quiet, mild manner, not, okay,

crazy like me. And he just left. Someone had tagged him on Facebook in a picture and that's how I found him and I messaged him later that night and just said, hey, thank you so much for coming and that was great and we started talking, you know. And now here we are. And he's on every little miracle's project with you. Yeah, yeah, he's a crazy.

He's the quiet guy in the back. He doesn't like, we're very different. I didn't think his personality would even work with, like he's more of an introvert kind of the quiet guy, but he knows how to do stuff. He's a hard worker and he says, just give me a job. And he, you know. Unfortunately, we can't promise that everybody

that does get other comfort zone to go do something will find their spouse. Right. Actually, there's been a couple though. I'm not the only one. It's been kind of cool. It's a whole way to meet, you know, who would have known? I never would have.

It's a, these things, they're little miracles, mixers. We should start that. And we probably have even better attendants. That is funny. start that. I mean, I have even better attend. That is funny. Pretty amazing that, you know, you got a husband out of little miracle deals too. But what's his name? What's his name? His name's Joe. Joe Clyde. Joe. So, um, I'm understanding, um, Joe swung and missed. understanding Joe Swung and Mist at one point. Well, I guess you could call it a mist. I don't I don't swing very often on those platforms. Yeah, are you talking about the dating that yeah, yeah, yeah, the sweet when Joe Swung and Mist, he

actually had reached out to you at one time before. Yeah, that's the ironic thing. I didn't realize it at the time, but I had been a friend talking to me and to try in the apps out again. I tried them before just to look at dating app. It was like a Tinder. You probably heard a Tinder bumble. You know, you're white really. Well, good for you. When we would argue sometimes I would say to him Do you really want to get back on Tinder? I don't think so I guess not a good life. Okay, so tender is a dating app. It's a day now. He reached out to you on this thing Well, this is how and you basically dismissed him This is so got dismissed

Well, he actually didn't because this is how these dating apps work. Very a lot of depth goes into these. You'll think they're cute. You swipe this way if you don't. You swipe the other. So we both thought each other's cute. We swiped on each other. So you swipe cute?

We matched. Yeah. You both think you're cute. Uh. Message for a minute. And you seem nice. I just, nothing ever came of it. I just, I think I got off the app pretty quick after that.

I just lost it. So the point is you meet this guy, end up marrying him. And lo and behold, you'd actually, quote, cyber matched at one point before that, huh? Yeah, but I never, I never would have, and nothing would have ever materialized from that. What, what, what happened was I got to have and nothing would have ever materialized from that what what what happened was I got to see who he really was on a day. Yeah, which is which in and of itself is the problem with these apps

Exactly, which is a for a whole nother and and that's why I didn't have time because you have to take a lot of time before you see that on That point is here you met this dude at a little miracle. You got married. He's on every little miracle. You finally got that family and the person you were looking for, when you weren't looking for it and the irony of it is, he'd actually and you'd actually seen each other before. At one time. Crazy.

That's crazy. He has to remind me. He's like, you know, I think we matched. I'm like, I kind of thought you, because I, you know, I think we matched. I'm like, I remember, I kind of thought you, because I, you know, and then I went back and sure enough. There it is. Yeah. Kind of crazy. Kind of crazy. I am beyond inspired by, um, by single moms, one, because my mother was one one and I know how hard it is.

But I'm beyond inspired by your heart and you're willing to serve and that you even without a lot of money and no backing and no sponsors, you just saw a need and filled it. And that's really what this is all about, is trying to motivate and show stories that people listening to us really can, if they'll just say, I wanna help, they can find a way to help in their communities and change lives and change their own life and do it. And you're an inspiration because you're one of those people. And I am just

so, so proud of that you and wish you the very, very best. And I assume we're going to keep going, right? Oh, yeah. We're, we're hooked now. All right. Well, so here's here's the deal We all the people involved in an army of normal folks Part of it is to pass along knowledge whatever knowledge we have and so I'm reachable Nobody wants to talk to Alex, but he's reachable and then How if people if if if someone's listed as I I really wanna do that in my town of Kansas City or Topeka or Birmingham or wherever. Can I reach you and get ideas from you

and how to reach out to you? Yeah, I like that you asked that because right before the pandemic, we had put together a little kind of a little blueprint. So little miracles, Utah dot org. Little say that again. Little miracles, Utah dot org. Little miracles, Utah dot org. And that will go to our website.

And there's contact information on there. I think there is a link that says for more information on how to do this in your town. I can't go out there and show you, but we've got as best of a blueprint that says for more information on how to do this in your town. I can't go out there and show you, but we've got as best of a blueprint that how we did it. But people don't ask questions and all that. It's there. People have called me. There's a bunch of us on the board. We love to talk about it. We know what is done for us. So there's a lot of great people that are so willing to talk. And it's, you know, what? It doesn't have to look a certain way. That's, all our projects are a little different, you know?

And everyone has a different gift, but everyone has something. And you know what? I've watched 60-year-old men find their gift doing this on a Saturday, didn't know before, but they found it. You just, just where you have a genuine desire, just put it out there.

And maybe another idea of what you can do will come up while we're chatting. We're happy to talk to people, give them ideas, tell them what we did, and whether they do something like this in their town or just get an idea of what they can do a little different that fits their gift a little better than awesome. That's just what we're all about because it's made life so much more meaningful.

I mean, it just gives purpose to everything and such a feeling of community, you know, with all the things in the world and all the reasons people are different. Now when cares at the end of the day about all those things, we just all want the same things out of life. We let the media and all these people think

we're all on different teams. We're not. We're all in a moment like that on a Saturday. It's so cool to see people from all walks of life on the same team getting along. You know, I love seeing the real church go-and-girl with the tattooed guy like best friends by the end of the day It's like the greatest thing about it is we're all community. We're all in this together

And it feels so much better to come together and help each other out and what comes from that is indescribable so we're Yeah, I hope we can do this forever From her mouth to your ears. A new member of the Army of Normal Folks. Thanks for being with me. Oh, thank you for having me. Such an honor.

Thank you. And thank you for joining us this week. If Tiani or another guest has inspired you to take action in your community, please let us know. I'd really like to hear about it. You can write me anytime at billatnormalfokes.us and I get those emails and I personally will respond. If you enjoyed this episode, subscribe to the podcast, rate it, review it, share it with friends and on social, help us do all the things we can that will grow, an army of normal folks. I'm Bill Courtney,

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