Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - Aya Bi Ekun feat. Stylebender Israel Adesanya

Episode Date: April 18, 2019

This week on an extra special episode, Andrew, Akaash, and Kaz get a visit from special guest and UFC Middle Weight Champion, Israel "The Last Stylebender" Adesanya!

All right, what's up everybody and welcome to a special special edition episode pull on in episode sit that's he brought of Flagrant to we got the champ in the building Is in the motherfucker building, okay? I have vehicle. I was trying to say, I have vehicle. When it came out the back, I was like, ah! Yo, pull up, pull up, pull up, pull up, pull up,

bro. Pull all in, bro. Pull all in, man. Okay, so for everybody, everybody in the world probably has seen clips. Not yet, not yet. We're going to,

everybody in the world right now has probably seen clips of Izzy's, Izzy's fight. Some people are saying best fight in UFC history. Most people are saying top five in UFC history. Most people are saying top five in UFC history. I thought the fight night, those two fights,

your fight against Gaston and the Poirier fight against Holloway, those were the two best fights that I've ever seen on the same card, meaning boxing, MMA. Oh, to me, back to back. After your fight, I was like, damn, what's going to top that? And same card. Meaning boxing, MMA. Oh, to me, back to back. I've never seen anything. After your fight, I was like, damn, what's going to top that? And it was like, oh, shit. I've never seen anything.

I mean, that was the best thing for the UFC. I mean, we had a whole episode that we just dropped, I guess, when we were recording this yesterday. And it was, I mean, we were just talking about how important that fight was. And especially you have been for the UFC. I'm so fucking... Now, we hung out last night, so I'm repeating a lot of shit that I said to you, but I am so fucking proud of you,

stoked for you, excited for you, and when I saw you go out there, especially in that fifth round, and fucking dig in. Show the clip. I saw the Instagram you put up today and it was like

yo I was ready to die honestly man like and when I say that I don't mean that like you know a lot of people say that like I'm wanting to die

I'm like I said it to myself like if this is how I go cause I've lost friends I've lost Monu from training Wilman he actually died in the ring and Jamie VDK

is one of my best friends who passed away so like for me I was like yo if this is how I go out, this is how I go out. Fuck, man. Honest warrior shit.

Because I didn't even know I was down too hard. I knew I lost that last round, the fourth round. I thought even that round was close, to be honest with you. I thought that was close. Apart from the head kick. Outside the head kick, I thought you were good. Composure. Yeah, let's play that.

Let's play that. I do my own stunts. I make my own clips. Let me do that. I do my own raps. My own intro. Play. Let me do that. I do my own raps. My own intro. Play that. Play that.

Let's hear it. Turn it up. Okay, now you're posting a clip of Gaslam hitting you. That elbow should have sat him down. Back to back. He's a tough motherfucker, man. He took some shit. That was a head kick.

That was a head kick. Listen. Wobbled you a little. The last of my kind. The avatar. Shit. Thank, thank,

thank. It's all hard, man. Come on. There's some epic shit right here. It's movie type shit. You can't write that. I'm fucking hyped, bro.

Rocky who? Yeah. build the wall. What? What the hell, build the wall. Go to part two, son. Go to part two, son. Press play. Ed and Barry, you know that. Come on, Gary.

Who was? I don't know how they're going to qualify here. They got a turtle. Jesus. Jesus. Jesus. Look at... Jesus. Bro. For real. Testify. yourself and when I wake up every morning I look to my mirror I read my information

and I look at the man in the mirror you know what I see I see a king a king

that's about to hit cornhole God move let's go let's go I've already knew all this

was coming so I was like yeah I'm gonna make a documentary I'm gonna make a documentary about my life

you know McGregor did one, Notorious, and then, bro, my ending for the first documentary is going to, this is lit.

This bit right here. You couldn't have written a better ending to a movie. You know what I mean? Fuck, I can't wait, man. You say this quite often. You say,

I knew this was going to happen. What do you mean? Okay. We're in the Matrix, you know that. Yes, of course. So I think the first podcast I listened to this year

was you and Deval and we're talking about this last night as well where it just, a lot of things just kind of be showing themselves. Since my 28th birthday, I had like a metamorphosis

and I felt like instantly I just, okay, the right people started coming in my life. The wrong people started leaving. The right people started leaving my life

and all these other things started to make sense and everything that I've just put in my head and said I wanted to do I've just manifested

it's weird it's not weird anymore it's weird for me to say sometimes but now I just have to accept it like well I told y'all

like it is what it is you know you just have to accept it okay I'm the avatar a lot of people try and shy away from it like they don't want to be in the spotlight they don't want to accept the the responsibility of being this guy I'm like hey look I'm not gonna be your guru I'm not your hero but I am me this is what I do so yeah like I said I've been expecting all this and

when you first realized when you first realized that the things that you wanted to happen could happen it's a surreal feeling isn't it yeah it how long did it take you to accept that there wasn't luck that this is you tuned into your own destiny probably a few years like it was in and out like i'll tune into it maybe i'm lucky maybe oh it was this person that helped me but then eventually since like i said my 28th birthday something happened and it's just like i just felt i felt like i became a man in a weird way i felt like i started like i came from like just being a not teenager but a boy and then started to my own my manhood on myself on my my destiny who i wanted to be so yeah it's crazy though

man like a lot of people whenever i like i still try and i still get chills sometimes i get goosebumps thinking about it because from my perspective think from 18 years old i started doing this with muay thai and then after like fight number four i was like i could be the best at this i could be the best in the world and that quote with ali he said i'm the greatest i said it before i knew i was that resonates with me because i was just like i feel like i could be the best in the world and that quote what Ali he said I'm the greatest I said it before I knew I was that resonates with me because I was just like I feel like I could be the greatest yeah I feel like I could that's alright let's just prove it just have to do you can't just like there's no like the same like you pray love what's the thing believe it achieve it

you have to do the work yeah yeah this is far the air you've been putting the work for a long time exactly so if you if you have it in here and then put the work in there and you still keep staying true to who you are authentically, the world is yours. The universe is yours. What's this week been like for you? Because I know people knew who you were going into the fight. You had a lot of hype.

But this is taking a toll on them a lot more. You were here a few months ago. Wearing a hose, banging at the door. Israel, son of a bitch. We should stay. I don't know if y'all were here in the beginning of this episode, but we're about to start the episode. We're right about to start it.

We've been recording in this studio for, I think, a couple years. We're going on two years now. I think that I've had a relative amount of fame for about two years. Never has a Puerto Rican woman. She was bad too. Bad.

Banged on the door banged on the door to stop the podcast recording. Right? No, Kaz, you went out there I went up there

because it was a little dainty knock so I'm like who the fuck is this? We tried to send someone intimidated. We're like, Kaz,

you're going to put a stop to this because she looked right through, Kaz. She was like, is he there? She was like, I'm sorry, I'm a big fan.

How hilarious would it be if it was, is he there? The callback is Izzy there? I'm sorry, I'm a big fan. How hilarious would it be if it was Izzy? The callback. Izzy, come, Izzy. We brought her. We flew her. Izzy, I want her now.

That right there, fuck the fights. That lets you know how far you've come. You know how it is. Izzy. Izzy. Izzy. This girl was fighting so hard. how far you've come. Yeah. You have to come with it, dude. Izzy. Izzy. Izzy. What are you doing? Izzy. Yo, this girl was farting so hard. She kept going, my boyfriend loves you.

And she's shaking, holding it. She's like, yeah, the boyfriend. Yeah, but you fart around your waist too fast. This bitch looked right at Izzy and goes, I will see you again. Yeah. When a Puerto Rican says that, she mean it, bro. Be careful.

She already pregnant. I couldn't even get it. Yo, I swear there was no saying no to her, her. As soon as she walked out, I was like, yeah, you're just about to come out. She's been to Weinstein, you. What's her name again? Who cares, bro? She's behind you, dog.

She's behind you. She'll definitely find you. She won't let you leave. She knows you're here. I'll set myself on the way out. You're on another fucking level, bro. You're on another fucking level, but it is a fascinating experience

to see someone take, accept their destiny and kind of take it in their own hands. And I keep hearing you say, even with us, when we're talking or in interviews, how you knew that this was going to happen. And often leaders are the first ones that know that they are a leader. Right? Like, you know, not to put, you know, people on big,

like Martin Luther King knew he was the shit before people knew. You know what I'm saying? Jesus knew who he was before everybody else knew, right? So what I've realized has often happened is like people around you that hear you saying that you're going to do these things and they're skeptical, right? Even your close friends, even your team. And then they have the come to God moment, right?

That eventually they have this moment where they see you do something that they didn't even know you had in you. And then they're like, okay, whatever he says. Have you noticed this with even your close? Not yet. Cause I haven't gone back home, but already from the interactions that I've had a little bit I can I can just I already know because last time after New York I went back home what we always do after a fight Eugene our coach he'll um the Monday after sparring you still come and you thank your

sparring partners you know he after because we're in a circle doing abs and after that you stand up and then um give a speech and the last time i remember i said like look you guys don't start treating me different because already outside the gym people were already treating me differently and um like uh people like what did he say people will try and like assume you've changed yeah so they will change to the people To adapt to your assumed change. I'm like, keep that same energy. I'm still me. I'm still me. So why are you tripping?

And yeah, I just told them, look, don't start fucking being groupies. Because you're my friends. And if I check people for that, I'm like, why are you acting like a groupie? Bust balls. Exactly. I'm still me. So still keep me in your heart as who I am. Because I forget all the time I'm on TV, Exactly. Yeah, yeah. Like, be, you know, I'm still me, so still keep me, keep me in your heart as who I am,

you know, because I forget all the time I'm on TV, man. I forget all, like yesterday I was walking down the street and some guy goes,

holy shit, it was after the Yankees game and I was like, whoa, what the fuck, he's like, Starbender, I was like,

oh yeah, that's right. I'm him. No one needs to recognize right now. I'm like, yeah, yeah.

It's like, any other time you might have been able to slip through I was like oh yeah that's definitely the guy I wanted Like at the airport Normally I never like flex or anything I hate flexing But I kept on getting weird looks

So I'm just like you should see the other guy They did But they're like I think they might be thinking like Oh but he lost I'm just like hold up let me just Can we show the merch? I was about to say

As you said the merch? Because this is... This is... Oh, God, bro. He brought it, fellas. The belt is here, yo. Unzip that shit, boy. That's the Janet Jackson.

That's the Janet Jackson. Take that titty out, bro. Take that titty out, man. Yes, sir. Take that titty out. Oh! You've been blacked. Where's Tiana Trump at? Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

Let him know. God damn, that's beautiful. That's heavy, man. That's beautiful. Let me see that. Let me see that. Oh, son. Hey, fuck everybody who keeps saying, Oh, son. Chase the bell.

Hey, fuck everybody who keeps saying like, oh, the new bell. No, no, no. This is the real deal. Pal Rangers. Hey, when I watched, fuck it, I wanted to be the Black Ranger. I am the Black Ranger now. Yeah, you that guy. You Voltron out this bitch.

God damn. Yeah, for real. That's a beautiful piece of hardware. All right, let's put this on a table, bro, because this is, yeah, yeah. Set it up right. Jesus Christ. So that's history. That is history.

For real though, man, honestly, like at the end of the day, fuck the steam. Fuck the steam. Fuck the steam. Fuck the steam. Fuck the steam. Fuck the steam. Fuck the steam So that's history. That is history. For real though, man. Honestly. At the end of the day, fuck this thing.

I don't care. It's moments like... Still burping. It's moments like that. Moments like the fight. Yeah. That's what drives me to do this shit. The challenges.

I can go buy this online. I'm sure I can go make one. I know some people. Right. It's what it signifies. The challenges. I can go buy this online, I'm sure. I can go make one. I know some people, but it's what it signifies. More money. That's what you should say. That's what you should say. Yes, sir.

My uncle would make one. Everybody knows that. My uncle would make one now. Oh, boy. It's like cousins right now. What do you mean It doesn't fit It fits Hey

That guy Jalof What up I need to Where was that from I need to try this I'm gonna be the next Yo we tried to get you Some today

They didn't respond man We were trying to get you YPK cooks I DM'd them on Instagram I'm gonna call them out right now They didn't respond She dope as hell I need to know

Also that Wache Cause see Why do they even wanna jump Have you tried Wache Nah what's that That's Ghana's like jollof we have jollof

that's like their thing and when I lived in Ghana for like a year that was Wache and Shito wow now the people who had the okra restaurant

they bought the Ghanaian jollof or whatever but it was more like Nigerian shit cause it wasn't much I'm sure there was a Nigerian chef I was like it's a Nigerian chef cast

yeah they just tell them they was going so hard I was like nah this is Ghana I'm sure there was a Nigerian chef. Yeah. I was like, it's a Nigerian chef cast. Yeah. And then they just tell them. They was going so hard. I was like, nah, this is God. I'm like, nah, my mom makes this shit.

This is Nigerian shit. I was like, all right, whatever. You're the one who runs the restaurant. I ain't going to tell you what it is. Why were you living in Ghana for a year? So before we moved. Tired of those games.

You knew you were going to be successful. You had to get the fuck out. I thought that's what Nigerians threaten their kids with in Nigeria. Outside Nigeria. We're going to send you back, man. You going to Ghana. Go on, try that, Jolof. We're going to move to the States, obviously, in 2001.

Then 9-11 happened, right? But we moved to Ghana for the interim. In the meantime, because... Get it, interim. But still, hey. Ghana for the interim. But in the meantime, because... Get it, interim. But still, hey. Fuck interim. Fuck interim, my man. I'll tell you one thing.

How many times I fought in the last year? Exactly. How many times did you fight in the last three years? No, no, no. We don't use that. You're the champ. I'm the champ. If you can't show up...

Ash sent me... We made some t-shirts real quick. He's like, what do you want to change? Is there anything you want to add? And I was like, get the fuck that interim out. Nah, you're a champ, man. World middleweight UFC champion. That's it.

That's it. If you watch that fight and you have the nerve to call somebody an interim champ after that fight. Exactly. Nah, fuck that, bro. That's the thing, man. You want to fight, defend your belt. They said, when I first debuted, wait till he fights a proper wrestler. I fought an Italian juicehead.

I think he's even suspended right now he popped the Italian I fought I know his name like literally popped so after that okay wait till he fights a top 10 guy Brad Tavares or wait till he fights a wrestler Derek Bronson New York MSG NCAA all that kind of shit smoked them wait till he fights oh okay Anderson Silva former champ smoked him and then now what

so okay wait till he oh top 5 top 5 top 5 and then that's the penalty that's the penalty

of greatness bro exactly there's always gonna be they want something you know what they want they want me to lose exactly they want me to lose

but hey pick a number stay in line hey those motherfuckers that want you to lose pay the same price of admission bro yo keep that in mind I tell themuckers That want you to lose Pay the same price Of admission bro Yo

Keep that in mind I tell them man I say Look you're not gonna pay money You paying attention And attention There we go That's all it goes man

You ain't paying money Bro Don't worry There's more Speaking of paying attention I gotta bring it up Yeah Somebody's been paying attention to you

Who that Before your fight Jon Jones Jon yeah He has some things to say He say you know Go and take care of the little kids But when you ready to step up Yeah. Somebody's been paying attention to you. Who that? Before your fight, John Jones. John, yeah. He has some things to say. He say, you know, go and take care of the little kids, but when you're ready to step up to the big dogs, he say he's going to be waiting for you.

All right, I'll put it this way. I even told Andrew, this is it. So he's a senior in high school, right? And there's this young, good-looking, black freshman who coming up on the scene and within a year snatch some gold. He's like, how do you think

the senior's gonna feel? You know, all the attention's getting away from him. So what's he gonna say? So he's the one that dropped my name first. I was chilling,

minding my own business. I didn't say anything publicly. But two weeks prior, after my silver fight, almost immediately after, like maybe two days after, I was just talking to him. I was like,

well, I've done that that was something I wasn't expecting in my career to fight Anderson Silva the guy who actually fucking got me into the game he got me

yeah so I was like I don't know something he just said just John Jones and I was like to Eugene how do we beat John Jones

because I knew I was like okay well let's go for it but like just slow key though I wasn't like putting it publicly just like prepping for it already like I need a new challenge let's go for it but like just slow key though I wasn't like putting it publicly just like

prepping for it already like I need a new challenge now and then he kind of like you worried about that guy da da da and he kind of gave me the blueprint

and then said don't worry we'll focus on Gaslam for now and then his fight week he drops my name on TMZ

saying he'd want to fight me at some point no one even asked him they just say is there anyone then he asked him a question about me directly

is there anyone you'd like to face in the future potentially and's like and he drops my name and i'm like oh okay well i got receipts so i put a screenshot of the of the of the message between you and me and eugene two weeks prior and then eventually people kept on asking about that i'm just like look that's not even like on my radar right now let me do what i want to do at 185 first and he's a smart man he's you know he's a smart man. He's a smart man. He's a businessman too, man. He sees what's happening.

Exactly. He sees the tea leaves, bro. There you go. He knows. He knows. And also, you know one thing? He's trying to get at me now while I'm still a freshman. Right.

He doesn't want me to get better. Because look, I've had six UFC fights now. Each one exponentially better every single time. Even this last fight. Dude, fifth round. In the fifth round, I think I hurt him with a,aked the the the low kick and i popped him with a two yeah and then rocked him they shot for a takedown snatched his neck but then yeah got the guillotine and then he escaped it and he hit me with this roll that he hits everyone with and i was like

he's not gonna get me with it because i'm not gonna be on his back and then from that roll i just flowed into a triangle and the only reason that triangle didn't cinch up properly was it was over my foot. But also, I couldn't get over my ankle because I fucked my knee up during training camp. So, like, I was like, man, do I want to risk hurting my knee more for this triangle? And I just kind of like, okay, I'll sweep him. Yeah, exactly. I swept him and we got back up. So, I mean, hey, I'm getting better, man, every single time.

You haven't even seen my takedowns. No one's even seen my takedown game. I'm just, hey, if it ain't broke, don't try and fix it. You want to keep me down? Try and keep me down. See what my guard game's like. So, he sees that I'm getting better and better and better and better. So, what he wants to try and do is get me out early or get at me early.

It's Mayweather shit. Exactly. Mayweather, Mayweather, Alvarez. Chill, champ. Chill. Don't worry. Exactly what he did to Alvarez. He got him when he was still young. He don't want to see Alvarez now. Heweather, Alvarez. Chill, champ. Chill. Don't worry. Exactly what he did to Alvarez. He got him when he was still young.

You don't want to see Alvarez now. Fuck no. He ain't no Alvarez now. Mayweather's my fucking... Not right now. Maybe younger Mayweather, I can see him beating Alvarez, but right now, fuck no. He'll figure it out. But...

I got so much faith in Mayweather. I'm the biggest Mayweather. I can say that as well. I love Mayweather, and I feel like he's so goddamn smart, he'll figure it out. And he's still working. You see him still hit the bag once on the wall. I see him hit the bag, and I'm like... He wants one. smart he'll figure it out and he's still working you see him still hit the bag once on the wall of course

he wants one he just wants a big payday he wants a challenge that's it simple as that McGregor in a kickboxing match I'm just saying you don't want that shit

the kicking is a whole different they even won a Kenshin fight that was so atrocious that was embarrassing do you think that was fake? fuck yeah it was fake you've never seen a wrestler

take a ball? so here's my question you've fought in Asia Do you think that was fake? Fuck yeah. It was fake. You've never seen a wrestler take a bump, bro? I see millions of them. So here's my question, right? You've fought in Asia and you've fought in a lot of these organizations, right? Is there more corruption over there? Yeah, 100%. I fought in China and there's a lot of corruption. Okay, so I'll tell you how sneaky they are.

This is what happens. The Chinese you mean? Yeah, bro. Honestly, so sneaky. So sneaky. The sneaky Chinese. And the businessmen. Not the people as a general, but the business people there. Yeah, yeah? Bro, honestly, so sneaky. So sneaky. And the businessmen, not the people as a general,

but the business people there. Very, very sneaky. You see what they're doing all over the world, gentrifying the places. I keep saying, I'm buying Auckland like I'm Chinese.

Because literally, even in my neighborhood right now, I'm not against it. Hey, ni hao. We are jungle. Okay.

I'm cultural. Hey, call me Mr. Worldwide. Sorry. So yeah, like, they'll take you on a tour. Like, I remember one time we were fighting. This is when I was still kind of, like, young. So they'll take us, like, there's the Chinese team, then the other side.

They'll take the other side on a tour throughout the city on a hot day while we're cutting weight to go see these landmarks and all that kind of stuff. And I'm like, I'm just going to taxi back to the hotel. And they said, no, no, no, no, no. We need to go. I'm like, nah, fuck you. I'm going back to the hotel. Right.

Exactly. So that's what they're doing. They're trying. And that's the day before the weigh-in. Oh, that's Bloodsport shit. Exactly. Remember in Bloodsport, they sent a pussy to Jean-Claude Van Damme's house. They're trying to get the competitive advantage.

Exactly. So, yeah, I've seen how they end they and it is very corrupt i don't know behind the back the back the back end a lot a lot of journeymen they have like for the for their main guys they'll make them fight some guys who are going to take a dive in hotel and take a dive in the second round take a nap in the first round and i've seen it i don't want to drop names but i've seen it many times really and that's what i did that's what they brought me over there for and you were like no we're not doing it oh to take a dive? No, just like a journeyman. They just thought, oh, we can get this guy there.

Sell some tickets. Exactly. And he'll lose to our best guys. Eventually, it's like, oh, shit. Welcome to our team. And New Zealand wasn't really promoting me at the time. No promoters in New Zealand were looking at me and trying to promote me like there were the other big names over there.

So I was like, well, fuck you guys, then. I'm jumping the ship. So I just went to China. And I was on a Chinese team, rocking a Chinese flag. They gave me a Chinese name. I spoke the language a little bit. It was better when I was there.

If I had a Chinese girlfriend, I would have got a better, but like, uh, then they just, how did she say that hurts? Oh, another story time.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Shout out to blood diamond. That's my teammate. Me and him. He was in China before me. Okay, okay, okay. Shout out to Blood Diamond. That's my teammate. Me and him. He was in China before me. So, yeah, me and him one time.

That's what she calls her, Hyman. Okay, go. Let's just say we're going to, we're having a good time in town. You know, it was a nice night. And then, fucked up off nice night. And then, fucked up off our faces and we decided,

you know what? Let's just end the night by going to a hotel in China where they have some extracurricular activities. Yeah. And then, as soon as we,

I remember, everyone, it was like, busy lobbying shit. So like, but as soon as we went in, because you know, in the mainland of China, it's two big black dudes. Yeah.

So the lady went to the, stumbled to the counter and then no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And then the taxi driver was like, okay, cool, whatever. Took another hotel, another spot. No, no, no, no, no, no. And then we started to get pissed off and they asked the taxi driver, what the fuck? Like we see people going in and out and they say, no, no, no, man, man. And then we started to get pissed off. And they asked the taxi driver, what the fuck?

Like, we see people going in and out. And they said, no, no, no, girl, no, girl. And they're like, oh, because... Yo! They didn't want to involve me. We need you. We don't want so many bets. But, like like after that

I was just like Hocker bitches only That's it That's all you can do bro We need Those Samoans are built for it bro These relationships Not so much

Man China's crazy man Really Crazy spot Crazy time in my life And I Even though I got fucked over In the end

And I learned a lot That's why I still don't trust Promoters no matter what I keep that don't trust promoters no matter what. I keep that same energy with promoters no matter what, even at UFC. The UFC have been good to me. They've been the best organization I've ever worked for. But I just know the relationship I have with them and I know the relationship I have with my team and my crew and me. Because it's happened before many times.

So I just, fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice before many times so i just fool me once shame on me fool me twice or three times well how do they you over how did these the chinese example yeah i had um i think seven fights left on my contract and i think it was 14 fights at first so i blew through the first seven and then the money jumped up so then i fought and then after that it was like okay um we can't get him a fight till... This is February, March. They said they couldn't get me a fight till October. And I'm like, what?

And each fight at the time on the contract was, I think, 28 US, 28K US. So I was like, okay, whatever. So I started to like dip into my savings and stuff like that. But I was like, man, just give me three fights. I don't need all seven fights. just give me three fights i don't need all seven fights just give me three of them i can like 28 times three yeah you can work yeah yeah but then they were just making excuses and stop calling me and stop like so i was just like fuck you guys then and eventually before i think i got signed in december so i and my contract was going

to end with them in 2018 february but i just told them, look, you guys did not honor your part of the agreement. So fuck you. I'm out. And I just went with the UFC. So these promotional companies will sign you and then shelf you. But you are obligated to fulfill their promotional duties. So you're just kind of in this middle ground where you're wasting away. But with them, they were good in the sense where I was able to

fight elsewhere except for China. Right. No other promotion in China so I could fight in Australia, Turkey, wherever. But still, the fact that they just

shelved me like that and just like, I don't know why if it's something I did or something I said but for whatever reason they just shelved me and decided.

And also the thing is in China, they control the media so their narrative is what they're going to say. Right. So I'm the bad guy. But the smart ones, they proxy and they get to the Western world and the rest of the media and know what's actually happening.

So I don't know what they've told the Chinese people about me that maybe he switched sides or this and that. Because even I think when I fought Silver, they kept on replaying my knockout with the guy that was in Silver's corner. They kept on pumping that out there. I'm like, what's your problem? The Chinese media was doing that. Yeah, the guy that was in Silver's Corner they kept on like pumping that out there I'm like what's your problem like the Chinese media was doing that yeah the Chinese

yeah yeah but like they they kept on doing it I'm like alright whatever I still you know I still want the fight

but they kept on like pushing that out there to try and like take away from my that's probably not on Chinese Google Chinese Google it's called

Youku or something yeah yeah yeah. How important is it now for you to control your narrative as an athlete? 100%. Dude,

I'm ahead of the game, kind of like you. Yeah. I'm ahead of the game. And I've seen, one thing I can say I'm proud of is with my social media and everything,

never bought followers. A lot of fighters I know and models and whatnot, they buy followers to kind of like show know and models and whatnot, they buy followers to kind of like show companies and all that. Do they? Wow.

All the time. I've never done that. I've never done that. Since China, I just knew this is the future of marketing. So I farmed it properly. I farmed it properly

and I used my own authenticity to do that with memes. Even like a lot of meme pages fuck with me. A lot of content makers fuck with me yeah online I'm not trying to be friends or cool with the guys on ESPN yeah cuz they don't push it as much as then exactly and people could already there was a you were in one of the post fight press conference or something you said something they were in a train I

can even see you as you said it you're like oh that's gonna be a mean meaning and that's free promo right and then twitter immediately twitter was like yo fam what's that but that's 10 000 but that's 10 000 people exactly checking out this fight and then immediately after that they're like wait what happened in the fight and then boom exactly so it's this working that social media i don't the fight and then boom exactly so it's this working that social media I don't even have to try anymore powerful fucking tool

this is it right here can I get the volume yep I just made myself laugh when I did it WCS where is it you're the wifi speaker

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I'm put the bend in the top bender oh man yeah I wanna ask a question Andrew brought up maybe he's already asked you in person

but he said something about how you don't rarely see men give full effort on anything ah yes this is good and once you do that and come out

the other side a winner do you feel different yeah do you feel changed how so you mean with this fight effort on anything. Ah, yes, this is good. And once you do that and come out the other side a winner, do you feel different? Yeah. Do you feel changed? How so? You mean with this fight,

like putting my, like getting to that? Putting every, that fifth round, that's all hard, nothing is left. Not just as a fighter, but as a person, as a person.

Because even when I was, I remember I was talking to Megan Oliva after the fight doing my interview. I said, so even right now, I can feel myself leveling up like the XP.

I just felt myself like just leveling up He Let's put it this way It's like what Will Smith said We're like If we're running on a treadmill We're running on a treadmill

Just know that You're gonna get off first I will die on this treadmill That was my mentality Right In that fight And I knew I could get there Like I said

Eugene in the fifth round Before that was just like Go to that place We need to go to that place Cause there's been times On the Airdyne That's that bike with the fan On the Airdy round Before that Was just like Go to that place We need to go to that place Because there's been times On the Airdyne That's that bike With the fan

On the Airdyne Then I'm just like I'm pushing Pushing Pushing Like with the heart rate monitor on And it's just like I can see it

Normally I hang around If I'm It's weird how the mind works man It's so weird Because I'm pushing I'm pushing I'm pushing

And I'll be like 163 beats per minute I'm like fuck And then I just have to I hit that wall That's where my wall is 163 beats per minute. I'm like, fuck. And then I just have to, I hit that wall. That's where my wall is, 163 beats per minute. Then I have to break past that wall every single time, and it'll be like 164. And it might look like shit.

It might literally look like, ah, ah. Like, it's pushing it, but then it's just 67. Then when I get to the red zone, normally it's 172, 173 beats per minute. And that's hard to do, especially when I'm fit. It's hard to get to the red zone normally it's 172, 173 beats per minute and that's hard to do especially when I'm fit it's hard to get to the red zone and that's where you have to dig deep you have to go to that place

like I said and Brad Riddell my teammate he always says go numb go numb bro you know go to the darkness

you know make friends with the darkness and I could hear him in my ear saying that as well when I was before that fifth round so when I turned around I looked at him. I never sat down during those.

I never sit down. I never sit down. There's something about sitting down. I just feel like- Between rounds, you're saying? Yeah. If you sit down, I just feel like your mind just, and then you have to get back up again.

So for me, I never sit down. I just hang on the cage, and I'm chilling, controlling my breath. And I turned around, I saw him, and he was game. He's got a good poker face. But my coach said that on the embedded before the fight as well. He said, he's not a guy you might take out with one shot. You have to

accumulate it just to keep touching and never get discouraged. Don't worry, you're hurting him. He's just going to poker face it. I looked at him, and I said, don't worry, I'm prepared to die. I said that, and I just honestly, I think I said it twice now.

He came, put the pressure in that last round, but like I said, that was the whole sequence of that last honestly, I think I said it twice now. He came, put the pressure in that last round. But like I said, that was the whole sequence of that last round. I think I dropped him like three or four times. I rocked him probably, I don't know how many times in that fight. But fuck, it changes you, man. You guys were yelling, stop the fight. Yeah, Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan was screaming, stop the fight.

Stop the fight. Stop the fight. He was screaming, stop the fight. I even wondered like- If he dies, he dies. When did he die? Blue Jew with the fight. Stop the fight. Stop the fight. I even wondered like If he dies, he dies. Blue chew. Yo, you gave him the blue chew.

You gave him the red chew. The black chew. The red chew. When did you know in that fifth round like okay, now I'm not just believing I got him.

I got him, got him. That was just before as a combo I hit him up before I went let's go, come on. And I just knew That was just before, as a combo, I hit him up before I went, let's go, come on. And I just knew. There's a workout we have called Spider.

We do it every Sunday in New Zealand because we try and correlate it with the time it's going to be and wherever we're fighting. So normally we do it on Sunday, it'll be in the afternoon. And five-round spiders suck. What is a spider? Spider is just a circuit, like just the worst fight of your life, pretty much like just the worst fight of your life pretty much like the worst fight of your life is where they run the sparring yeah so it's like you have there's no sparring there's no sparring it's like a lot of wrestling so it's like different styles yeah so the first round itself like the example round one it's upper

body round two is lower body and round three is a mix of both so the first round would be a lot of band work and it's like a set thing um and then after that ball slams and these bring pull-ups and then however, it's five minutes on the clock So however long it takes you to do that then get to the wall and then you have to wrestle I think 30 seconds each person and if you're good you can get through like maybe eight people through that cycle of before the five minutes is up and Then after that second round is legs You do a lot of squats split jumps squat, squat jumps, lifting, a lot of double legs, suplexes, single legs, a lot of wrestling, like stuff that's heavy on the legs. And third round, that's a lot of both, mixture of both.

And then you do it again from round one. So you do round one and two again to make it five rounds. But that third round, the third round is a bit at the end where you go on top. Because normally every fight, like, average is three rounds. So you go on top, and it's like maybe 30 seconds left and then that's the workout done but you have to finish the fight and when i had him hurt that was the mentality i had i was just like everything all my soul all the work all the sweat all the tears everything my whole mana my whole spirit i was just putting it into him man i wanted to kill him i don't honestly

i don't say that lightly it's kind of scary i was like i don't i don't i was trying to kill him like i was like if i because i was ready to die i was ready to give my life for this so you were him at that point exactly it's all rough to stop yeah exactly so i was i was i was like i don't care i'm not gonna have mercy i'm gonna go to the death so i was ready to take him out completely and i'm glad he's all right you know he went ready to take him out completely and I'm glad he's all right you know he went to the hospital after the fight but I'm glad he's all right I'm glad he's healing up well and he's a tough dude man like these Mexicanos man I thought Tongans were tough I thought Samoans were tough but man the Mexicans there what happens when you give your all in the

ring with another person and they give their all in the ring what happens between you guys afterwards Right now is just that respect like I can't wait till I see him again rematches I'm always good at but the respect just in life like in life see him again. What was that? It's like my brother. Isn't that crazy like my brother? Creates that just that that bond that we know like I. Every time I look in the mirror now, I'm just like, fuck. I'm sure this will leave a mark. I'm sure I've left some marks on his face.

So I'd be like, that was from him. This was from a, I can't remember. It's the moose knuckle. See? The moose knuckle. So you can see, hey, if you look at my knuckles, there's a white one and a black one. I posted a picture of both of us.

We're doing the, what was it? The Rock Lee. The Rock Lee, right? And we both have our hands like this. And one of the comments was, my man need to fight a bottle of lotion. Hey, I got hashy knuckles, man. Hey, you know what? I'm sparking these niggas, man.

What's that, a fire? What's up? what's that a fire so there is an intimate connection like you often see this and I think the average person doesn't get it but it's like you see after fights these fighters not everybody

but some fighters embrace and my suspicion was always you cannot have ego once you've laid it all on the line. The walls are all down. There's no bullshit. There's no bullshit. You know who you are in there.

Yes. You know who you are. Like in a fight, if you're a bitch, if you're a coward, it'll show. If you're cunning, it'll show. If you're smart, if you're brave, whatever you are, you can't hide. There's nowhere to hide at all in any aspect of that fight so he's seen me he's seen me and i've seen him like that avatar thing i see you you know what i mean like we see each other so when i see him next time it'll be like yo

like even after the fight like literally i was i think i was on top of it there's a moment he was kind of embraced yeah when i looked it was like he looked he like looked up like yeah dog yeah like he just looked at me i was like looked up like, dog. Yeah, like he just looked at me and I was like, yeah, we did that. Even above this, like above like the actual. Fuck all this thing, man.

But still, it's nice though. It's nice. It's beautiful. But like what y'all did together, like they're going to replay that fight. Forever. That last round forever. Dude, that's immortality.

Yeah. We're going to be immortal. Like that's the point. It's about those moments, man. Like I say, these are nice, but for me, I'm doing this thing for moments like that. I'm not going to do those fights all the time. Trust me. I'm going to make it a little bit quicker next time.

And also, I'll tell you, he knows already, but literally, it's about those moments, creating those moments in time and history, capturing those moments, going to different lands and beating their best guys, you know, and different body types from different martial arts and then becoming down the top. I've been doing that for years, man.

I've been doing that for years. So this ain't my first rodeo. So yeah, I keep doing it, you know. There's something we were talking about yesterday and you were talking about like spiritual growth and there is, you found out that your insecurity is also

your fuel. And while you might want to address your insecurities, there is a fear that by addressing it and accepting it, you will remove the fuel that pushes you so hard. I can't remember how

we got into that discussion but i mentioned ayahuasca yes you're like trying dmt or trying ayahuasca i wanted to go to the jungle i think i felt that calling to go to the jungle for so long for so long but i've always put it off because i feel like well what if i go there and i get the ultimate therapy and i realize a lot of my bullshit and I come out and I start to work on it and it makes me a better person I work on myself now

it's always self growth but for me I feel like I need that chip on my shoulder I want those chips and dips on my shoulder just so I can like I can

I don't know I want to let go of it it reminds me of Avatar you know Avatar so Prince Zuko before he and Aang became friends, his source of firebending

was his anger and his hatred of Aang because he wanted to claim his honor back. But then after he and Aang became friends, there was an episode where he couldn't firebend anymore because he's like, you know, how can I firebend now?

Now what? So then he had to go find the dragons, the dragons that actually started firebending to teach him the true source of firebending, you know? But I don't want to go find the dragons yet. I like my insecurity. You know, trust me, let's put it this way. My insecurities used to control me,

but now they don't. I control them. I control them. I use them when I want to use them. When I was on Rogan, right? He said he smoked weed to make himself insecure. Yeah. And I go, what?

I go, what? And he goes, yeah, it's like it humbles me. I like giving myself that insecurity because I'm in a position in life where, you know, so many people are probably praising me and telling me I'm great. And if you start to believe that, you need that paranoia, you can turn into a fucked up person. It's like,

that's why you're telling your boys, like, yo, don't treat me different because you treat me different. I could start believing this shit because they're the people I care about. Yeah.

It's like, yo, you gotta be regular with me. I mean, you said it in the videos, like, you're never as good as you say you are. You're never as bad as everyone else.

All it matters is how you see yourself. But like, even like that, that moment right there before the podcast, if I wasn't as objective as you say you are you're never as bad as everyone else all it matters is how you see yourself but like even like that that moment right there before the podcast if I wasn't as objective as I am that could get to my head

and make me think and it's only gonna get worse she gonna get to your head she gonna get to your head fam she gonna get that my go-go bosses be like you're gonna have to

get used to it bro you know what I'm saying you're gonna get you're gonna get you're gonna get you're gonna get you're gonna get you're gonna get

you're gonna get you're gonna get you're gonna get you're gonna starve you're gonna starve babe get used to it bro you would've starred you would've starred babe she understands we was talking about that today with the BJ hey tell her you a champ you know what I mean oh yeah we were talking about cheating passes and it's like if you have a private jet

right like okay basically this is the rule You could maybe talk to your girl, see if she agrees with this. But, like, if she don't have to go through TSA, she got to put up with you getting some pussy on the side. Now, if you both are taking your shoes off, and socks off, and your wristbands off, and all

your belts and shit like that, then maybe there's some fidelity to that. But what if you got your girl pre-check? $180 a year to cheat? That's boring. fidelity to that. What if you got your girl pre-check? Yo, I'm saying. You're gonna take an hour a year to cheat? That's boring. That's boring. Hey,

black men don't cheat. Let me tell you something. What do white men do? We bringing it back, baby. We bringing it back. All right? Y'all must have forgotten. I'm from the community, man.

Y'all must have forgotten, bro. I'm bringing cheating back. Cheating need to come back in 2019 the community, man. Y'all must have forgotten, bro. I'm bringing cheating back. Cheating need to come back in 2019. Really, I kept on saying that. Real talk, bro. I've seen you manifest a lot of things. If you can manifest cheating, you're the GOAT of everything. This might be the easiest thing I bring back.

Really, all you got to do is around a bunch of dudes like, yo, should we get some pussy today? Oh, yeah. Why would we be faithful all this time? What the fuck is wrong with us, bro? Can't forget sides. Sides. Y'all just eating

steak every meal. Come on, bro. Get some broccolini. Some garlic mashed potatoes? That'd be crazy. All right, so what happens back home, right? You haven't been back home yet.

Not yet. Every time you go back home it's a little bit more okay do you isolate yourself from it and do you think that's the smartest thing to do so i sort of half and half both so as soon as i get back i know it's going to be crazy i'll do my media obligations but what i do normally is i go home first, see my dogs and cat. Shout out to Millie, Toothless, and Cinderoo. And after that, then I either go down the line to my parents' house in a little town called Wanganui. And I hang out there. That's where I kind of like grew up a little bit.

A little bit. And a lot of my friends actually are doing things with their lives. They've fucked off from that place because they needed to move on. So so i don't really leave the house much i just like to stay home chop some jollof dessert some semolina a goosey all that kind of stuff hang out with mom and pops and then yeah i just stay away from everything you know i can watch the world through this a little bit but i just i just i like i'm again. I just sit on the couch, sleep. But you were, you were saying that like, there's an experience that a lot of, uh, like rock stars and like rappers go through where it's like when you're fighting, that's the tour.

And then when the tour ends in rockers have written about this for years in their books, there's this like, there's this down and as high as the high often it's like coffee like for me yes February so February last year I signed to the UFC right

and then at my after party I remember like it was like four or five hours of just man man man man man like just literally

talking to people and it was cool don't get me wrong I appreciate this I am grateful gratitude is my attitude but after one point at one point I was telling Andrew I just grateful. Gratitude is my attitude but after one point,

at one point I was telling Andrew, I just sat down like in a corner of myself. Some guy ran through. He's like, bro, you all right? He just happened to see me. I'm like, yeah, I'm good, I'm good. He's like, oh, what are you doing here by yourself?

The champ, I'm like, I'm chilling. I just need some alone time. He's like, oh, I feel you, man. I feel you. I sat right next to him. Fuck it. And I just said at one point, I was like, dude,

can you just give me five minutes by myself? He's like, all right. Oh, bro, I gotta get a pic, man. I was like, you don can I can you just give me five minutes by myself he's like alright oh bro I gotta get a pic man I was like you don't really give a fuck about me do you he's like oh no bro I'm just a big fan

I'm like come here let's get that pic and that was it but then you're calling him out yeah no I have to like for me

I do that like literally I could be talking to you at a bar right now and then someone just like boom two seconds oh my god

that's probably shorty right now I heard y'all talking about chicken who is this Puerto Rican bitch? Man, you tell your son. She's like, what's a Puerto Rican? The fuck is that? What did she say? I was like, all right, you had that.

She's like, well, you didn't win this past weekend. I'll sleep this one. What was I saying? I was saying about, yeah, February. So after, at the after party, when I got home, like I said, it's just like there's all the stimulus, stimulus of like, you know, people, oh, you're the man, you're this, you're that. And then I love going home because that's the first time I'm alone with my thoughts. A lot of people don't like being alone with their thoughts, but I do.

I never used to, but now I do. I like my alone time. I like to just be and talk to myself. Not like all the time out loud. I do it a lot. I just look crazy. But a lot of times, just body language. I'm dancing.

I'm just feeling myself. I'm in my head. This is like 3 a.m. sometimes. But then in February, after my debut, I realized I came back and I was just sad. And I was like, why am I sad? There's nothing to be sad about. I just fucking made my UFC debut. made a bonus on my debut as well, stole the show.

But I'm sad, and I didn't understand it. But I just, okay, I'm going to start. And shout out to one of my exes as well. She kind of pushed me after that because we broke up because I just couldn't handle being with someone or loving someone because I didn't really love myself at that point. So I just felt,

and then she was like, yeah, you know, she was, but she's like, you need to see someone. She really cares. She's like,

you need to see someone. I was like, all right. Okay. So I went to therapy and one of my exes before that, so you kind of said the same thing, like you should go see someone.

And then I started to talk, you know, just downloading my emotions. Then I fought in Arizona, came back, same thing i was like fuck really really nigga that main event in vegas fucking own that one as well came back and i'm like fuck and then i'm still seeing the therapist going through it talking about what's going on in my life personally and professionally and then eventually something kind of clicks a little bit and I'm starting to get, I'm like,

okay, cool. So I was like, New York, I knew, okay, this is, this is in New York.

I'm going to, I'm going to, you know, I know this is going to happen. So it's like brace, I'm bracing for the impact. So I come back from New York, I'm bracing for impact.

It didn't affect me. Why? Cause I already, I think third time's a charm or fourth time or whatever. But like, I just knew I was like, okay, I know what to expect now.

I know what to expect. And I told my therapist, yeah, I was ready or whatever. But I just knew, I was like, okay, I know what to expect now. I know what to expect. And I told my therapist, yeah, I was ready for it. So I knew I'd handle it. I think I'm going to be all right. Oh, so when I was in New York, I saw this video, right? It's an experiment where this guy's in Times Square. I saw it years ago. He's in Times Square and he's just walking around in the daytime,

just doing him, you know, just being himself. Then no one pays him attention. Then he goes there at night time with the illusion of fame he hires paparazzi security guard all that kind of stuff yeah you'd be surprised how many people do this yeah literally and then like literally people who's oh and everyone starts taking photos and videos and he's just the same dude you know in the same spot just put the facade on and then the interesting thing to me is, I even have this on my highlights

in my Instagram, so you can check that out, the PSA, and there's a long text next to it just explaining my point of view. So like, they're asking people like, what do you know,

say David, what do you know David from? They're like, oh, you know, I like them in Spider-Man. He's a good actor. And it's like,

you know, it's like that children's tale, the king's robe. Yeah. And then like... The king's clothes, right? The king's clothes, yeah. And then like some guy was like,

oh, what do you think of his last album? And the guy was like, oh, well, I didn't really hear that album, but I heard the single on the radio. I think it's pretty good. I'm going to check the album out, though. I'm like, you're lying through your teeth. You have a good American accent, by the way.

That's a good American accent. Yeah, but like literally it was just it was bizarre to me and then when I was in New York before the fight I was doing some promo for my clothing brand Engage

shout out to Engage and um so there was like four cameras around me then the UFC embedded people around me and I'm just doing a photo shoot right in Times Square for it

and then I started to like see people look at me look at me and I was just like no fucking way no fucking way same No fucking way. Same shit? Same exact thing in the same exact place.

How the fuck? And then some people start coming to take photos with me and stuff, and I'm just like, all right, all right. I'm just smiling. And I went up, I asked the guy,

do you know what I do? He's like, you a fighter? I'm like, yeah. He's like, you can just take a photo anyway. I still take a photo, but literally,

because I've seen that. You know how many times I've taken photos with people and then afterward they're like what's your name yeah the best comeback i think i've done so far with this is because like there's like five people three guys two girls and this one girl bat chick but then i walk in the bar and it's like oh all the guys start like just gushing over me and the attention goes away from her. And you know me, I don't really want the attention.

I don't need the attention. And then she's just like, I could just see from my peripheral, she's just drunk and just like, and comes up like, who are you? I'm like, nobody, baby, don't worry. And then like, I'm still talking to the guys. They're taking photos and I'm just chopping up with them a little bit

before I leave. And then she really wanted to let me know she didn't know who I was. She's like, does it suck to have someone not know who you are and you want to do it? I was like, baby,

you sounded pretty white. I don't know who you are. And I just walked off. Oh, fuck man, I love that. I was like, I don't know who you are.

I don't need you to know. I don't know you, I'm sorry. She played herself though. Yeah, she played herself, yeah. While I'm out,

you all got recognized a lot, one girl was really freaking out and her friend didn't know who she was. And then literally she goes, oh, he's famous? I want a picture. And one of the few times I was proud of myself with this,

I go, no. And then I took the picture with her friend. I was like, you don't know who I am. You're not getting a fucking picture. What's the point? That's fake. She was livid, but I was really proud of myself.

Respect. She had to be white, by the way. No, no. She was black. Oh, really? I couldn't let my mom see me in that. I thought that was the real reason. You know, that's just coming.

God damn. You wouldn't just put out black queens. I guess. There's a, I was talking to Brendan Shaw, you know, Brendan from Fire and Kid. And we have history. Oh, do you guys? Oh, that's a long story. What happened?

He's a good guy now. We squashed it, but it's cool. I love Brendan. Yeah, he's cool. And he had an interesting point about fighters. And he said, fighters are different than every other athlete because you have to compute their willingness to be punched in the face into the equation.

And it sounds crazy to think about, but it is a specific difference. And football comes close because there's the potential concussion. Basketball doesn't come anywhere near it. When you play basketball, you can be incredibly athletic and you can get this skill set

but you we say things like yo Russell Westbrook got heart does he cause he jumps for a ball he doesn't get kicked in his mouth

there's levels to heart there's levels to heart right so when you're dealing with fighters are you willing to die for that free throw no

I was willing to die they say they are but your life is never really put on the line it never is so they don't truly know. And it was an interesting thing that I never even thought of. He goes, the fighter, the mentality of the fighter.

Like if you take a fighter's athleticism, he would break down. He goes, listen, I was in these NFL combines and that kind of shit. I played practice squad in teams. I've never seen athletes like this. But they couldn't be fighters. I go, what do you mean? He goes, they just don't have that bit up here.

They're not willing to go there to have it. And vice versa. He's like, and fighters couldn't be athletes in the NFL. I suck at every other sport. Soccer. I'm Nigerian. Two left feet. Honestly. Big and black. I can dunk. My dad would interview

Ali all the time. Once someone had Ali throw a football at him or something like that, and he threw like a girl. And my dad was like, my dad's looking at Ali like this is the greatest. The most masculine guy on earth. The most masculine guy on earth. The greatest physical specimen that he had ever seen in terms of athleticism, right? Couldn't toss a football.

He couldn't toss a football with like, he threw it kind of like a girl. And he was like, just baffled. He couldn't understand it. And Brendan pointing that of like a goal and he was like just baffled he couldn't understand it and Brendan pointing that out was very interesting it is a different I even asked you last time you were here

and I was like are you like the first are you like the first a wave of elite athletes that has entered the sport and you're like I'm not elite

I'm just like a skinny guy I go I'm the runt of the Nigerians I'm the runt of my people but it's interesting you say that because when I started fighting right I got nice teeth strafe teeth great teeth not going to front of the Nigerians. I'm the runt of my people. But it's interesting you say that because when I started fighting, right,

I got nice teeth, strafe teeth. Great teeth. Not going to front. Look at y'all again. Look at y'all again. Here's the champ, bro. Me and that Puerto Rican are going to bust it out.

This is trying to take my name. Treyway. Treyway. Treyway. Treyway. Treyway. Treyway. Treyway. Treyway. Treyway.

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Wow. No, but like, literally. Why was you having so much fun in there without me? Was she already jealous? She's already angry. Puerto Rican. Already claiming and shit. My car's already scratched outside. Put a baby seat in there, though.

No, but my biggest fear, because of my teeth, was like, man, I'm going to get my teeth knocked out one day. So there was a point before my first fight, I just decided like, this could happen. This could happen, but that's okay. There's veneers. I can get it fixed. I was broke at the time, but I'm sure my dad would have paid for it or something. But like, yeah, that was a thing I had to go get over in my second fight.

So my first fight was like a novice fight. My first coach was a, to him but he was crazy he was fucked in the head um he put me against the guy who was supposed to wear 80 kgs did not wear 80 kgs he was like i'll put the video up one day we're from america so what you just said means absolutely nothing to us about 180 pounds yeah when you said 80s, I just imagined 80 kilograms of cocaine. And I was like, how much would that be? I know what it looks like visually, but what is that in person? 176 pounds. 176 pounds. 176, okay.

So imagine I'm 176, right? And that was on the same day when this guy comes in, and he did not look 176. He was probably about 205 pounds. And I was taller than him but after that fight i remember like just my my spirit grew like man i want more of this i was six weeks after training six weeks into my training and then like my second fight dude puts me in a fight with a full tie rules full tie rules so that's elbows and everything so that's going from 16 ounce gloves uh no knees to the head, shin pads, big shin pads.

And then my second fight ever is full tie rolls, 10-ounce gloves, no shin pads, elbows, knees. And then the last round, I still won that fight. The guy had like 12 fights, and that was my second fight. I still beat him. But in the last round, there was one point he had me down and kneed me in the face, in the mouth actually. And for about three weeks after that fight, I kept on like,

because it felt loose, but it was strong. I don't know if you guys have been punching the teeth yeah it felt loose but I was just like yeah it's still there it's still there but after I overcame that fear I was like I'm fine people think getting punched in the face is hard it's easy I don't like it he should he should not have touched me with that jab, but, and Eugene, like, two days later,

texted me. He was real frustrated. He was like, I, he was like, I know one. No, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, one. No, but, Eugene already texted me,

he's like, fuck, like, kind of like an ice ice man. everyone about to be pregnant in New Zealand. No, no,

no, no, no, no, I'm gonna make it all black. No, but, Eugene already texted me He's like fuck Yo everyone about to be pregnant In New Zealand I don't even know man I'm gonna make it all black I got a vehicle I got a vehicle I got a vehicle Yeah But um Yeah so

What was I saying What's my favorite thought About your teeth And then you got over the fear Over the fear And oh Damn it I don't give a punch in the head too much.

You said, oh, you shouldn't have touched me with the jab. Yeah, the jab. Yeah, you shouldn't have touched me with the jab. And then Eugene hit me up two days later. I was like, fuck. Like, in hindsight. Like, it was there all along. It was right in our face.

But we didn't see it. And a trick that I know, he knows. He uses it against me. Guys in my gym shorter than me use it against me. And I normally take care of it very well. But, yeah. Next time, like, all my rematch. And I normally, I normally take care of it very well. But yeah, next time, like all my rematches,

I'm, I do way better than, I do way better than the first fight. But yeah, so we figured it out why he touched me as much as he did. And eventually I won't, I just stopped respecting this jab

and that was dumb of me. I was like, okay, I don't have to, but the left hand. He's a one handed guy. I was surprised that he hit you with enough power

to drop you in the first with the hook. That hook, hooked us nice It was a nice hook, but like he has that beautiful over him right? Yeah left. Sorry left left right southpaw and He's got great head movement. Yeah I was trying to hit like trying to hit a fly like trying to sort of fly and at one point I think maybe in the second round was I started timing it right and I was like, okay then third round I timed it way better and forth so I just got better as the fight progressed

also when you chopped down the leg leg yeah when you chopped down the leg and then it took that little move I don't know if you want to give it away we don't have to give it away we don't have to give it away my man

my brother see actually Andrew when I said it to him he's like is it the and I was like what Andrew grew up in fighting

yeah he knew so I was like damn to be honest with you I don't know he said it word for word like what my coach exactly said he's like is it the I was like, damn. To be honest with you, I don't know. No, he said it word for word, like what my coach exactly said. He's like, is it the, I was like, how'd you know? Like, it made me respect his game, his IQ, his fight IQ.

Because that's my thing. It was like, when I saw the fight on paper, I was like, oh, you're just going to pick this guy apart. And then I was watching, and I was like, ooh, interesting. The distance is a little bit different than I imagined it being. But the way you mitigated it, when you started chopping down that fucking leg. Yeah, on the inside. And that's why you win rematches. Progress.

I'm better. I'm learning. I'm like a copycat. Yes. I take it, bro. I take everything I get better and better and better. That's what I love about Mayweather, right? I love the fact that he pieces you apart.

He takes it. So here's the thing. With a guy like Gaslam, he is a one trick pony with a great trick. That's what I mean. But once you learn the trick, he doesn't have the other gear. Mayweather got 20 gears. Somebody said this about Khabib too. They were like, I was like, tell me what he's elite at.

And they were like, you got to understand. You think you don't smash, you smash. But he also has 20 ways to do it. Yeah. Whereas a bunch of guys might have three ways. Like you even said, Gasolum has that roll. So you knew the roll that he had. We practiced it.

I haven't used it on my teammates, and we knew the defense for it. But he got it in the sequence, like on the fly. It wasn't like a static position, and then he does it. Right. Because that's how he normally does it, catches everyone else with it. Did it like static, but he just did it on the fly. Yeah. As I jumped in for that guillotine, and yeah.

He was good at it. I said one trick, but really, really, really good trick. But it's a good trick. But once you find out that trick and he doesn't have another gear, it ends up being short. You know, and that's why,

listen, I don't know a lot about the next guy. I think you were going to fight Robert. I'll tell you one thing. He don't want to fight me. I already got, the streets is talking to me. I got my ears to the streets. I know what's up.

What's the streets saying, bro? What's the streets saying? Can you take a little bit of a break, though? You found my man, the streets I know what's up What's the streets saying bro What's the streets saying Can you take a little bit Of a break though Oh no my man Trust me I know everything They're gonna try and do right now

Cause he just had a fucking surgery He's cleared to fight He's healthy And guess what I know they're gonna try They're gonna try and gas you For the fight right now Get the fuck out of here

You ain't done shit in the last How many years Two fights in three years Fuck off You wanna tell me I've been fighting my ass off I've actually been working I'm the fucking champ That's it So he's gonna have to Sit the fuck down Two fights in three years. Fuck off. You want to tell me? I've been fighting my ass off. I've actually been working.

I'm the fucking champ. That's it. So he's going to have to sit the fuck down. How long do you think you want to sit? Because I know you plan everything. October. I think October will be good. Maybe September.

But we'll see. We'll see. Because look, my health, after fighting, there's more to life. I love this. I'm grateful for this life. But I can't wait until this shit is done and I can just fuck off. There's a lot of things I want to do. I want to start a family,

I want to have my wits about me. So I'm not going to be one of these guys who just after the fight like this, I don't have these fights often, I'm just going to jump back into the training camp. Yeah. So how long do you want to rest? I'm just going to chill.

I'm still going to just train for upskilling. Not really like the air dines and the fucking running a train with my niggas and shit. But just having fun i'm just gonna that's running a train with your dude what's more fun it's that white boy fun let's go i got my bands on what's up all righty then oh my god well brother man we're so grateful that you came man thank you so much

for being part of yo son as always as always bro I'm so fucking I took it I'm so fucking stoked for you man

I was so god damn excited man and it's just it's amazing to see it's amazing to see people fulfill their destiny and people realize

that you know a lot of times your destiny is not necessarily a passive journey, but an active journey. And when people become engaged in what they can and are supposed to and destined to do, it's a powerful thing. It is inspiring. Sitting both on both of you guys. I see what he's doing here, bro. I've known this guy since fucking over a decade now.

And to, when you watch people and I've seen it shift in the past six months. Like, I think success started to happen and then it started to click for him.

You, I, since you've come here, whatever you've said has happened. And it's inspiring to watch people and it makes you like, my mom believes in the secret

super hard. And I'm like, I don't know. But then when I see people, What you see it in action. Manifest, they put something out there and then they manifest it

through work, through hard work. Look at that. You know, it's inspiring, for real, to watch both of you guys. That's the thing.

Speaking of things to resistance, next time you come here, you're going to make space for two belts. Yeah! You're going to pose this title right here, right next to him make space for two belts. You want to pose this time, I'm right here. With a two belt and a Puerto Rican.

Little baby. How many kids do you see? Real talk, man. The squad. You got some Spanish. Mr. Worldwide. But for real, the squad squad it's amazing to see how people come together

and how people find each other and like it's amazing to see how the winning is happening man and this shit happens organically

I mean that really with everybody in this room it's like you could see right now we are at the precipice of the next generation

of entertainment in our field and we're gonna look back on this in five years and be like yo remember we was all just sitting in this room but we're gonna look back and go yo we did it we're the ones doing that we're pushing the culture forward that's it in every way shape or form like every one of us is doing something that is fucking taking shit to the next level so i'm fucking so excited for you my brother thanks so much

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It's a wild place. I'm just saying, hey, hey, black man don't cheat. That's all I'm going to say. Facts. Facts. All right, man. Peace. Keep it tight.

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